Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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Dr. Pedopantsu, I'm omawari-san.

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>>160958063
i fucked up the post
i'm sorry

>>160958063
>Ohayou (Karga)
Negro please

First for queue for gvg nerds

>>160958318
its ok you did what no one else was willing to do

Girls with glasses are shit

>>160958604
No matches for you today either crimson dog

>>160958608
A monkey like you wouldn't understand such a refined taste.

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"Defend" this game.

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>no portium drops after soloing crystal mines three times

>>160958863
I can't even if i want ;-;

let it die, let me die

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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#212244477.1323354351.1a233141557a.1f233848516575.11243a4a55

THIS IS THE PHOENIX BUILD

>PYROMANCER 2

the power of the flames, anon. FIRE! POWERED BY THE AGNI NECKLACE, PYRO 2 IS THE STRONGEST DPS WIZAR EVER, ASL ONG AS YOU HAVE MATK TO BYPASS MOBS MDEF, OF COURSE. WORK ON THAT WINDIA ROD, FAGGOT, AND BURN EVERYTHING

>PSYCHOKINO 3

TELEKINETIC POWER, GIRL. LIFT STUFF, LOCK STUFF, STUN STUFF WHILE THEY BURN AT THE SAME TIME! FIRE BALL FIREBALL FLAME GROUND -> GRAVITY POLE/PP! DECENT DPS AS WELL AND FIX EVERY PROBLEM PYROMANCER FACES (RUNNING AROUND AND JUMPING FROM MONSTERS). THERE'S THE PP FIREBALL COMBO BUT IT SUX WITHOUT A WALL BUT IT'S LITERALLY THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO WITH A PP. PP DOES FUCKING 30 HITS WITH A GOOD BASE DAMAGE, POLE DOES 20 AND RAISE LASTS FOR YEARS.

>LINKER 2

MORE PSYCHIC COSMIC STUFF. LINKER + PYRO HAS BEEN A GREAT COMBINATION SINCE DAY 1, BUT NOW WE TAKE IT EVEN FURTHER COMBOING WITH OUR PSYCHIC POWER OF CCS AND DPS, WHIL EVERYTHING SHARE THE PAIN FROM THE FLAMES TWICE!


WHY THE FUCK YOU DON'T HAVE A PHOENIX WIZARD?

>queue for tbl match
>8 out of the 10 players don't make it

imc plz

Pay your fucking bills. You're already milking the gambling addicts.

>>160959738
Don't you rike ezy wins anon kun?

>>160959659
>capeshit

Can you go die of AIDS you dick sucking faggot?

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>>160959954
pshh, nothing personnel...kid

>>160959659
>no linker until 225
>on a pyro
you'll kill urself

>>160959659
>no Wiz2
>on a kino3
u'll kill u'rself

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To the anon in the past thread who wanted Crossguard + Punish combo in webm form from me, here you go. I also put in parts that showcase why I don't use this combo often at all (same reason Fencers don't) but whatever, here you go bro.

>>160960548
Jesus Christ. Too bad STR isn't viable, since it makes crossguard much better.

>>160960548

absolute fun!
thanks.
also, you can make the combo reliable by removing your shoes~

t. highlander fencer.

>>160960548
Procs every one gorrillion times for one gorillion damage

>>160960954
One STR is one block. It's not much at all. Crossguard at level 330 is without any STR like 1.3k block rate (mine in the webm is around 1.2k, scales with your character level times two or three if I recall right). As you can see in the webm though, it lasts only a few seconds (that we don't see the duration) and it feels like a hidden channeling effect which can get you stuck in place and is hard to even utilize.

In PvP using Crossguard on people roots them in place. Good luck pulling that off with desyncing stealth archers though.

>>160960470
>>160960536

nah. I played kino 3 too much and it's a blast. Gravity pole alone carry you to r7. Fireball too. Even psychic pressure is enough to carry you to r7. really. You don't need surespell.

r1 to r5 can be done with 5hammer autos with enchant fire sacrament cafrisun so fast that it's not even a issue lol

>>160961220
Punish without using crossguard deals insane already, he just specifically wanted to see it used with Crossguard.

>>160961832
does punish work on bosses?

>>160961905
Yes and no.

Can you knock down bosses? If so yes. if not, no.

However if there's mobs around the boss, then yes. The shockwave will hit the boss too.

>8 games in a row stuck in the loading screen
>went from top 5 to swaaz mmr

thanks, kim

>>160962385
>shitposting about swaaz
>prob cant even 1vs1 me
hey faget, look my ranks up before >implying
pretty sure youre more shit than me

>>160962385

I miss halloween event exp.

>>160962614
didn't mean to quote someone with that.

Futureproof is recruiting new members. We accept everyone, regardless of level, build, or game experience. The only requirement is that you must be an active poster and/or lurker here in /tosg/. Whisper Lolipan.

I'll be online for the next hour or so.

>>160962614
Christmas event soon hehehe

Remember to stock up on gacha hats to resell them for medals.

>>160963152
STOP IGNORING ME INGAME AND GIVE ME MY TP YOU JEW FUCK

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is maybe someone selling a cheap Token?

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>>160958063
Highlanders are sluts.

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It's funny my Doppel has insane difficulty with this quest but hey, Pardoner m.def, Didel Tower Shield (can't use this on Doppel), full Rhevisan etc. and these faggots only hit 4k. Physical attacks they did hit me 10k though, despite having 1.2k defense with a shield on.

I don't know even if I pass this gear to my Doppel if he can survive these two though. If he could survive just long enough to get cyclones and other skills off I could burst them down. I was close to dying with this pardoner even with all this m.def, phys def, revive's, heals, safety zones and gear. Lot of running around in circles waiting for cooldowns.

I guess this really is Tree of Cleric. :^)

Or Tree of Whales. :^)

inb4
>I DID IT ON MY MAGE NO PROBLEM FUCK OFF CEEELCUNT, RETARD, AND I'M SURE THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT I'M A RANGED CHARACTER WITH AOE THAT I CAN LEAVE BEHIND ME WHILE I RUN AROUND IN WHALE GEAR AND FULL CON MINIGAME BUILD, AND THAT THESE MOBS ARE 100% WEAK TO MAGIC FAGGOT STFU GIT GUD IMPLYING IT'S HARD

or

>MY MOURNMILLO HAD NO ISSUES I SAT INFRONT OF THEM AND HEADBUTTED THESE GHOST ELEMENT MOBS 50 MILLION DAMUGE DESPITE GHOST ELEMENT MAKING ALL PHYSICAL DEAL 50% LESS DAMAGE, SLITHERING MADE THEM INTO PUSSIES! JUST ROLL RODELERO FOR SLITHURING MEME'S FAGGOT UNSUBSCRIBED AND REPORTED IN HOPES YOU GET BANNED UNNNGH

Joking aside, I wish I could make safety wall into a skill scroll and pass it onto my main. That would be enough. Maybe in the future? Maybe. I can dream.

>>160964218

did it on my fencer solo. it was easy but take some time. forget tanking his physical attacks, manual dodge everything and stack up on cloth + mdef to mitigame the unavoidable magic they do sometimes (or when you fuck up). doppel is harder because they don't have a good hit and run as the others

>>160964218
I DID IT ON MY MAGE NO PROBLEM FUCK OFF CEEELCUNT, RETARD, AND I'M SURE THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT I'M A RANGED CHARACTER WITH AOE THAT I CAN LEAVE BEHIND ME WHILE I RUN AROUND... AND THAT THESE MOBS ARE 100% WEAK TO MAGIC FAGGOT STFU GIT GUD IMPLYING IT'S HARD

LOLIPAN?

>>160964218
>tfw Ceelcunt is on Fedimian and not on Klaipeda

feels bad

>>160963152
answer me ingame i wanna join adsdsufyj

>>160964218
Being a character that can't use a shield is a massive disadvantage for mdef.

>>160964613

But Doppel can use shield. One handed sword + shield, cyclone works with any weapon and you have your barb/hl skills to use. switch to two handed when needed you just need to gitgud
but the truth is: you can't transcend two weapons to decent levels at the same time

transcendence ruined the game

>>160964218
I raped them both at the same time with my spider dick

>>160964448

I could've asked a friend to help me but I left the quest undone so I can see if it's possible later on. The biggest issue is of course that Doppels Cyclone leaves you slowed and unable to do anything. Goal is to do the quest self buffed one day. Tried it only 2 times and got OHKO'd because I was level 280 with no gear. I just found it hilarious a cleric with trash tier gear had no issues.

>use a shield on Thaum C3
>+500 mdef/physdef

cool

no one answers when i want to join a guild you guys are MEAN

>>160965324
what guild?

>>160964993
Too bad it doesn't give it to classes who don't use shield. Bow, 2H sword users get nothing and dagger/pistol users only get evasion. It will be a great buff later on when it scales with INT though.

>>160965361
FP

>>160965443
Dagger/Pistol users get phys/magic attack, bow and 2h sword get evasion.

>>160965532
Pistol doesn't get phys/magic attack, only dagger does

how strong is inquis on a scale of 1-10

>Invincible GvG tower and stuck in this match for 15 minutes

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>>160963798

>>160965654
Depends on what other cirlces you have.
By itself (no memes like oracle/kabba/diev) it's average. Just good enough to compete with other r8 classes.

>>160965712
Good. Keep FreeTiPi occupied so Diamond dogs can't cheese their way up.

>>160965654
4

it's not as good as people think

>>160965825
They will just crash the gvg channel with hook64 if they need to

is this game good for ERP & what is sluttiest build?

This game is so fucking trash.
GvG towers are bugged.
Diamond matches with their alt guild, FleeTiPi and FleeTipi lets their only player die over and over so Diamond can win.
Then FleeTipi matches with Alpha and just character selects out instantly, and no kills/no tower damage = both teams lost and they both lose points.
FleeTipi can just keep queuing and make Guilds lose points for free.

Ah, the classic Diamond abuses GvG matchfixing again!

Never gets old.

>>160965825
If FleeTiPi logs off from the GvG match and both teams do 0 kill and cannot kill tower its a loss for both sides. Diamond ranks up either way.

>>160966253
>>160966273
>>160966362
Is this really what's happening right now? That's a new level of scumbaggery.

FleeTiPi is just queueing repeatedly now, because whoever they can match against, they can just have their player character select out, so they both lose. Since FleeTiPi is an alt guild, even if they lose, it doesn't matter, but their opponent gets fucked. Alpha just got fucked, and if anyone else is queuing, and queues against FleeTiPi, they'll also get fucked.

>>160966476
Did you really expect anything less from klaipeda's resident hacker guild?

Come on crimson dogs kills those diamond dogs and become the top dog of klaipedo

>>160966612
Diamond is turning up to be worse than Kirito and Desu at this point.

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Full Rhevisan and without using my Pardoner's 460 m.def buff. With the buff they hit like 300 damage. Pixel of Death is physical, so it still can melt you, but Stone Shield giving me 1100 block kind of negates that. Oh and safety wall helps. Oh and Malleus helps to silence them forever.

God fucking damnit this is making me depressed just how easy it is compared to other characters.

My Gear is Grynas 3 pieces and with Wind Runner Boots with 3x level 6 Blue Gems (180 m.def). Nothing amazing. One of my Rhevisan rings got a +14 m.def awakening, that's about it.

>>160966884
Diamond is mostly people who left desu or were kicked from it by kirito. You can't make this shit up.

Lol guilds can literally get one kill, then have everyone character select out right now. Because they'll have the kill lead, and guild towers can't be damaged

>>160963885
>smooth crotch
Either she's 12 or not a real highlander

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>>160963885
No

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>>160958063
>>160963885
I define this artstyle as "squishy"

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>>160967507
Thighlanders are the original lewd class of this game, never forget.

This is why we needed Clover and Database.

>>160966930
part 2

I got killed on the quest with 9 mage mobs, even if I can reduce their magic damage their poles destroy your anus. Will try again later.

>>160967960
Pop a barrier scroll

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>>160966253
>>160966273
>>160966362
>>160966476
>>160966612
>>160966659
>>160966774
>>160966884
>>160967076
>>160967237
Get rekt you bug abusing scumbags.

>>160966930
>One of my Rhevisan rings got a +14 m.def awakening
Can you show it?

>>160968367
What exactly happens when you try to attack the tower?

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>>160968956
I remembered wrong. It's just 11. The other ring got a +7 fire resist though.

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>>160969178

Guys, does wugu2fwee3 work?

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>>160969253
you're scaring me anon

>>160969267


a2 hunter 2 wugu 2 fwee 3 can be a 2vs2 beast

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>>160969178
Okay. Thanks.

The maximum the bracelet should have been able to get is 13(?) so I was wondering if it was higher than thought before, like how HP recovery is.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ry-wk544z3NJ0RGjAUKzE_3BADKUzb3Us6JdlB73vAg
It's probably out of date but no one has any updated one, and it seems correct except when it comes to the regen stats.

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Biggu Kuroi Kokku daaaai~ suki dess!

>>160969178
>A necklace

Uhmmmmm

>>160969178
was meant for >>160968450

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How can kim keep getting away with this ;-;

>>160969554
but I already have a a2hunter2scout1fwee1musk2 on the works. Retrieve into snipe and all.

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>>160969649
???

Speaking of that though, I got this amazing awakening on it.

>>160970215
stupid kimcow

>>160970383
The bracelets have the same flavor text that say "A necklace" instead of calling them bracelets.

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>>160970471
oh shit you're right

>>160969649
Maybe its a necklace for ants

>>160970215
Our all-cleric team couldn't be beat, anyway. But it took foreveeeeeeeeeeer.

>>160968249
I tried. Did nothing. They just cast Pixel of Death inside the barrier then.

no point in rerolling blessing cubes now since people sell shards for less than 300k, right?

or is there a random chance to get something else from that cubes?

>>160971043
someone got a full blessed accessory gem, but idk the chance

>>160971138

sheet.

well, since I was heavy on cubes (5w each, saving from months) I just opened everything, only single shards

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>>160967960
>>160968249
Fucking did it. Fade, SW, Heals etc. did it. I fucking hate this game so much.

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>>160970538
Better add this to that

That latency on SEA

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>>160972320
This is Fedimian right now. It is however fucking 6 am though.

>>160972086
>struggling
>as the most overpowered class in the game

embarrassing

>>160972624
it's a pardoner support spec anon pls no bully

So from what I understand, the reason for the godawful everything is that they weren't paying the SEA server's bills, had to transfer everything, and made the NA servers bear the load along with the stuff they already handle, rather than dumping that shit on the literally-empty European server.

Is that an accurate summary?

>>160972807
kill me now

>>160972596
You have an item with 0% durability.

>>160973108
All of my items turned 0% durability. You can spot my previous posts too if you look closely.

fletcher or wugu damage/utility/costwise r8

anon... I love the game but if someone offer me R$ 800 around (230 dollars) I would sell all my items.

>>160973675
You slut

>>160973593
Fletcher because it scales with DEX

>>160972624
That place is just annoying, even if they hit you for ones. Fucking push back magic bullshit

>>160973593

why not

a2 ranger 1 wugu 1 fletcher 3 wugu 2!

will probably outdps any mergen c1 on single target desu

>>160973593
Wugu doesn't scale at all going into late game, and DEX (best stat of all time) is worthless for Wugu.

>>160974895
wew lad

arrow sprinkle webm of it 1 shotting some high level boss or something

wew ladx2

wugu doesn't scale

>>160973593
>>160974895
>>160974907
Fletcher is definitely the better one circle dip, due to bleedmeme and bodkin for bosses and shit. But don't underestimate the power of wugu2 it lets you do things other classes can't, having a damage over time poison that is INSIDE whatever means you don't have to try to keep them in one place. It does fall off a fair amount end game but it is still great filler and with transcendence and phys hats you can actually do well enough on wugu.

I have a feeling they'll fix wugu attris soon too. If they were fixed in R7 wugu would be too op but now with r8 mobs, we could really see new life being breathed back into wugu

>>160975078

anon, please. they had falconer 3 aiming on: it makes all hits from sprinkle connects. that shit make even hail connect all hits.

the boss was a flying one too and the lad had a stage 9 bow.

>>160973675
What have you got?
I'd be interested in buying a couple hundreds worth of stuff directly from aother player.
It beats buying from chinks or funding IMC's retarded asses.
I'd be mostly looking for godly enchanted headgears and practoniums or 315 weapons

Do enchant armor buffs stack?

For example, if I get mdef bonus in 5 parts, i will accumulate to 25% more mdef?

>10m for a hasta plate armor

tell me this is a good investment

>20 motherfucking con

>>160975943
invest that 10m in rerolls and get your own

>>160975727

you can currently only enchant 3 pieces )top, bottom and shield) and yes, +15%

>>160976018

>killing blut

>alone

how I can do this senpai

On a serious note, people are selling virtov plate robe for around the same price, and hasta plate armor gives even more hp/def, lol

>>160976180
Do it with a group?

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>>160976454


>group

>>160976526
y-you have friends or a guild right?

>crashed on all 3 mission runs
>crashed on all 3 dungeon runs
>go to do quests
>crippling lag makes it even less fun

I think I'm done with ToS for a while.

>>160976558

n-no.

I had a couple of friends but they left for a better mmo

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>>160976673
Then pay up motherfucker

>>160976673
You can make new friends anon! What server do you play on?

steam reviews and friends all say this game is shit

is this game still worth playing or are you guys all pretending here

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>finished inner wall 8, inner wall 9 and outer wall 9 quests solo
>as a cleric
>while 8 levels lower than the areas
this feels cheating and I don't feel even remotely accomplished

We've been enslaved by the false hope that IMC might actually get their shit together.
There's also that sunken time fallacy thingy.

Basically, no sane person would play this game. If IMC could bring themselves to stop driving their sportscars and do something like address just one of the major long-running problems, such as lol-what's-a-multi-core-processor, I might actually recommend people try it or come back, but untiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil theeeeeeeeeen~

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>>160977817
its a comfy grind game and if its what you want you will be served. Do not expect deep player interactions or game mechanics but ultimately its a good time waster and you get to be a cute girl.

>>160977817
It has one of the best class systems of any MMO. It's also handled by one of the worst developers in the MMO market.

Updates almost always break more than they fix. Some classes have been completely ignored for the entirety of the game's lifespan.
Rerolling means you have to go back through the same exact boring quests in the same exact zones.
The developers constantly remove entire builds from the game through balance updates or new ranks, FORCING you to reroll.
Every stat except CON and DEX are worthless.
There's going to be a stat update "soon" that will undoubtedly force people to spend money to reset or reroll.
Unbearable lag due to shit servers.
Literally 2 FPS in crowded areas on a game that looks like it should have been made in the 90s.
PvP is dominated by 2-3 builds and will never change, already strong PvP classes recently even got damage buffs.
Everything is Gachapon. You gachapon after killing bosses to see if you get loot, you gachapon for cash shop items, you gachapon for upgrade items to your gachapon'd equipment.

Does anyone have the gupot card webms?

>>160975261
fletcher1 is good but actually i'm torn between my ar3wugu3 or just reroll the usual fletcher3 build

>>160975648

30m, max peta, 2x sissels, venier, audra,+7 maga rod, maga bow, karacha, didel tower shield, 2x glass bands, maybe 4m in talts, 100 blessed shards, arde, virtov plate top, virtov cloth top and some other stuff

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>>160978431
I was just about to go to sleep, but I'll post them for you.

>>160978632
Thanks

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>she doesn't have a level 330 pet

What are you even doing in this game

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>>160978431

>>160958063
Fucked OP aside Capy 99,99% has quit the game, not like people care because
>not Klaipeda

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>>160978793
xd

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>>160978431
I need to remake my Canceril and Honeypin.

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>>160978431
Last one, and I'm pretty sure this is all of the Wugushi cards that are in the game.

Hey, kinda new to the game.. any build you recommend for a solo player?

>>160979312
Cleric. Any of them.

>>160979312
highlander 3 is simple and good enough. Good damage and you get to be a swordie who tend to be a little tougher

sword 1/high 3
wear full plate, stat 3 str 1 con 1 dex

is swaaz still all in his feelings about not being a member of the community?

>>160977817
It's worth playing, just not worth investing money or too much emotion in it.

It's like a rough diamond, and IMC is like the worst gemcutter in the world.

>>160979480
Don't be a dick, anon.

>>160979480

>3:1 str

nigga, what

dps = dex, as a highlander 5:1 is okay
support = con
wizad dps = some con, heavy int and pray for int buffs

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>dying on a quest instance and abandoning quest actually gives you death penalty x2
>boss glitches because of pet in outer wall district 9
>he regens from 50% to 100%
>he isn't even close to me
>OHKO's me from afar
>no animation
>no spell
>no nothing
>invisible thing hits me
>die out of nowhere

it's shit like this man
shit like this
shit like this man

>>160979626
>>160979571
>le dex meme
>on a newcomer

that wont be a problem until R8, which is 300 hours from now and that guy probably wont last that long so might aswell make 1 - 270 less painful

>>160979993
retard fuck off with misinfo shit

>>160979312
don't listen to >>160979480

This will ruin your character forever for end game and you will need to cash out for 45 dollar DLC packs or 80 dollar stat resets in the future. If you plan on having fun and not going end game you can just ignore me, but every physical DPS build in this game shines only in end game PvE and PvP with high DEX.

STR is a worthless stat and you can even do Uphill dungeon later on and slap some Red Gems to your weapons to compensate if things seem too hard.

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>>160980119
>memes, the post

>>160980329
fuck off retard

>>160980119
>STR is a worthless stat
Depreciated but not worthless.
Ain't that the case before the DEX+gem rework?

>>160979993

dude, even as a newcomer.

go very high dex, slot 2x lv 4 yellow gems n any two handed sword and he's golden

it gives so much critical attack, specially for him (highlander) that it's not even funny comparing with str

>>160980406
It's a worthless stat now and will be for a long time. There's literally no excuse to take STR. You'd be better off pumping SPR for block penetration than fucking STR since SPR actually gives m.def and SP that all R8 spells need. However CON trumps both if you're a PvP retard.

Fuck off with this misinfo shit. If you fucked up your build for the 3rd time now even with a free stat reset at least bring some fucking evidence to the table or shut the fuck up.

All I see is a cuck trying to justify his shitty build to himself. Nothing you can be said to defend pumping STR at all. You hit crit cap with DEX and rest goes into CON. No fucking argument at all.

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>GM PMed me asking about PvP balance

Uhmmm....

>>160980702
answer that clerics are op and should be barred from entering TBL

I want a way to grind a lot of enemies at the same time so i can get lots of silver and maybe get some equipement for a PvP focused character.

Is the Highlander a good class for that?

>>160980721
But I play Clerics

Should I do what's right?

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Where does this recipe even drop?

Also its stats are identical to that of the normal blue ones so what the fuck is the point? It has 2 more potential sure and more accuracy, but what the fuck were they thinking? I'd like to make one though. The increase in stars and quality means this is the last Oghma type right? Right? Will they add an orange one next that needs 5x of these crafted?

I don't want to buy these for 400k incase it's a common as fuck drop from a new map.

>>160980817
Say rewards are shit

>>160980817
fuck no

>>160980730
peltasta => hoplite is better for that since with pelt's taunt you can bring mobs to you and hoplite gets high damage up to endgame.

Archer3 scout3 is pretty basic but efficient farm build. Just look up a guide for stats.


>>160980817
because you're a member of the Clergiarchy you have to step down and let swordmen prosper else you're a classist pig.

>>160980702
>>160980817
tell her to:
whisper Swaaz

>>160978793
But I have 2, soon to be 3 with my falcon.

>>160980702
>>160980817
lies

>>160980702

say that uphill rewards are much better and pvp deserves more love

nerf ausrine, nerf sevenfold, nerf dethrone (cc), switch rush damage from (slash) to (pierce), nerf magnetic force AOE size (make it match the visual), nerf prophecy charges and give oracle c2 an attribute to increase the number, malleus/magic trap form inq damage halved (like warlock nerf), iron hook capped at 10 second for pvp, trot uptime halved in pvp, broadhead arrow damage to receive pvp penalty (-50%) hunter CC duration halved (so hunter 3 is needed to almost 100%), fix owls, but maintain duration = pve, missile hole number of hits halved, and mounted classes skills are now CANCELED when CC'd (rush, marching shot, retreat shot and etc), max hp capped by class (sword 40, cleric/wizard 25, archer 30), pvp overall damage penalty from 50% to 65%, heal halved

>>160980702
Tell them how shit Archers are.

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>>160981178
I wouldn't lie to you guys.

>>160981327
Nerf Inquisitor and Kino. And Linked Magic Missiles.

>>160981327
tell them to remove cata and missle hole

>>160981327
fucking ass fuck capy
fuck

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>>160981327
ausrine needs a severe neft in TBL, maybe half the duration and twice the CD

everytime you get a debuff you grow increasingly resistant to that debuff. Think Darkest Dungeon anti stun spam mesures.

Make all hard CC (cata impale, hunter skills, kino) last half as long

Limit on how many time you can be res might already be in but I cant tell

Normalise gear and damage attributes. Stats, classes and skill levels should be the only difference in strengh inbetween players. Maybe keep equipment specific effects, like sets, monster gems and venier-likes skill level increases.

3 seconds CD on dispellers

Maybe add slow magic circles in the map in a pattern that prevent catas to beeline your base in the first second

use more server power or some shit to at least try to fix desynch.
do that and its a good start

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>>160981667

>>160982057
>Normalised gear and attributes

This is an MMO, the whole idea of the other 20 hours of the game not spent PvPing is to make your characters stronger for PvP. If you just want to fight people fairly you should play a more skill based game like Overwatch or Dota2.

>>160982391
>what are skill levels

Alright guys I gave my review with most of what you had already mentioned.

I even asked for 2 straight hours of TBL time and reduced shop costs.

You can thank me later~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>160982489
retard

>>160982663
>memes

>>160981220
>nerf magnetic force AOE size (make it match the visual)
NO
The only nerf MF needs its to stop applying every 0.1 seconds and giving 3902903829 stuck bugsjust like every fuckign displacement in this game.

>>160982771
or just give it a longass cast time with a fucking tell

>>160932967

Red ofcourse

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>GMs

I just...

>>160983242

>likes gm

slut

>>160982152
Coffee is kill?

>>160983535
Was Coffee even alive

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>>160983338

>>160981220
But Hunter's CC is already halved in PvP.

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Hi! I'm LeCreme!

>>160985484
I'll give you my creme alright

>>160983592
Maybe but it has never been /tosg/ or done anything relevant so why we should care?

>>160985484
I want to LeCreme her in the boypussy

>>160985484
hi

Hey everyone

>people still camping bee farm
was the nerf to the place a meme after all?

>>160985484
I wish LeCreme played on Klaipeda instead of Orsha

That kind of autism seems fun to explore

>>160986535
Anon, it was nerfed and now not profitable. Just forget about it.

>>160986665
I don't believe you.

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>>160986683
Anon, as an avid Necro AFKer, I wouldn't go near that smelly farm even for a Practonium!

Why aren't people running 290 since the boss is broken?

>>160986864
Explain.

>>160986895
Before the boss wasn't broken and people shouted 290rush all day and night
After last maintenance the 290 boss (lavenzard or whatever the lower one is called) is stuck and doesn't move from its starting position and you can just hit it til it dies, but people barely call for rush anymore. Is it because of the lag?

>>160987009
Now that I consider it, maybe it's because they can solo it easier.

>>160987067
I've only done rushes where they spawn the jumping faggot thing that hits you for 12k, how do you spawn the lazenfaggot?

>>160987161
Go left from start, all the way to the end of the hall where it turns, and into the first room that's on the left when you turn and start going up the next hall. Go past that room and into the second one and kill the orb there. The archers will be killing the shit out of you meanwhile.

After that orb is destroyed, run back to the starting hall and the teleport is in that room to the right end of the hallway.

I grinded from 260 to 280 in Maven. Should I card to 290 and try to make a Temerys grind group when server alive?

What classes do I need for it? I know Linking doesn't work too well in there. Sage helps with the insane mages so 1x Sage. What about AoE? Mememancers dont exist. Maybe Doppel C3's? They can AoE the cloth casters down fast if they aren't retarded.

So
1x Healer
1x Sage
3x DPS
...right?

>>160986864
>>160987009
Because the game is dead. Stop playing it.

>>160987951
>trying to make meta grind party
kys fampai

But unless you have people that can stack mdef then you need 2 healers and preferable non retards

>>160988074
most chronos go sage and in temerys theres no need for a chrono at all so if they dont take sage, they arent needed at all

>>160988057
Why should I stop playing it?

>>160988173
Not once in that post is chrono stated

>>160985634
>ET 15 clear in r7
>guild members has been reliably in the top 10 of 2vs2 and 5vs2

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>>160988601

I feel warm and fuzzy inside when a random person sat beside my bonfire.

>>160988720
Fedimian is the only server without an ET20F clear in rank 7 as far as i know, even Orsha got there
>TBL
Like it's hard to get high in ranking, just roll a cleric and do it

So when are they going to nerf inforocktor farming warlocks?

>>160988924
kys

>>160988986
It actually is the server with the least amount of hackers, RMT and tryhards too. I mean all it fucking takes is 3 faggots with DPS to RMT and cheat their weapons to +20, use hidden slots and have 500% transcendence through RMT and then you get to brag how your server is hardcore.

Can you only have one store open per account?

>>160980835
It's something like a 5-10% increase in damage for strike skills vs leather

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>>160990427
Why you are butthurted so much on the fact your server and guild are dead?

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>>160990646
Calm down anon, why are you getting so defensive?

>>160990646
he's got a point, how often have you seen a post in general forum about a hacker on fedimian not banned etc.?

>>160990646
Who's this bimbo?

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>>160989601
>Robbing a crippled elderly man of his only purpose in life

Don't take it away from them its all they have left.

>IMC nerfed the ever loving fuck out of gacha in Korea
>We'll probably get the same changes

50% CHANCE OF POTIONS (use to be 15%)

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>>160991650

>>160991650

Korea also got a christmas event that requires almost no effort and gives lots of rewards including fucking gacha cubes.
It also doubles cards gained from map exploration and it lasts a full fucking month.

>>160991650
>Potions
FUCK NO, keep those shit out of pvp

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>>160991787
>pvp

>>160989601
The first map?

Why do you care?

>>160992047
Why should they be allowed to afk and leech newbies while gathering up boater hats and instance clear vouchers?

>>160992047

Literally the first map in the game and it's under 24/7 farm by a macroing Warlock.

First impressions are everything anon, and this leaves a terrible first impression.

They are also botting which is actually against the rules.

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>>160989601
>inforocktor farming

>>160992109
there are better maps for clear vouchers, bee farmers get like 12 vouchers every night

>>160992135
>They do the same thing as bee farmers, but only bee farming is bad

Yo don't have a problem with demon prison farming either, do you?

>>160992109
Yeah, How dare they try to earn silvers somewhere else while i afk at bees and prison.

>>160992158
people have reported bee farmers since the dawn of time

no one banned

why do you think they'll ban warlocks? it's not against the rules and IMC wont care

>>160988986
>Fedimian is the only server without an ET20F clear in rank 7
Yes, and how many of those were tosg?

>>160992109
>allowed to afk
They aren't afking though, they need to recast Invocation every 60s

>>160992307

You're right, they are botting.

IMC shit on Sorcerers for afk farming, you think they wont shit on Warlocks too?

Don't shit where you eat Warlocks. You've been warned.

>>160992352
Did the gookland version have the sorc and bee nerf?

>Realized you can use combustion on fireballs
>You can also link and combustion with them
Alch r9 sage is the future meta.

>>160992389

Yes. It was one of the few changes IMC ported over quickly too.

>>160991718
which hentai is this from?

>>160992392
Wait shit, has anyone ever made a Cryo-linker-alch? I have a new project.

>>160992237
>why do you think they'll ban warlocks
I didn't say "ban", I said "nerf"

>>160992237

AFK farming Sorcerers didn't do anything but afk.
Warlocks are using a macro to automatically cast Invocation for them, which is against the rules.

IMC specifically made it so Sorcerers cannot just afk anymore. They too need a macro now (or need to hold down attack), which is against the rules and can get them banned.

Not that IMC ever bans anyone anymore.

>>160992897
>AFK farming Sorcerers didn't do anything but afk.

wat

>>160992352
But they're not afk, you don't want to be afk and miss picking up your boater/dungeon clears. I just walk around picking everything up while refreshing my Invocation every minute.

>>160993183

They went to a location, then sat there, doing nothing. The pet attacks on it's own.

It's a technicality but that is why it wasn't against the rules. But that no longer works since now the pet wont attack if you go afk.

>>160993226

That's not against the rules. But many of them are afk. That one RandyBK guy spends most of his time at Infrorocktors. Sometimes he is there for days at a time doing nothing. I've snagged tons of instance clear vouchers off of him.

Most Warlocks are like this guy.

>>160993301
>that no longer works since now the pet wont attack if you go afk.
All they have to do is put a rock or tape on the attack button or add a few lines to their macro.

>>160993330

And both of these are against the rules, IMC have banned people in the past for it.

But like I said, IMC hardly ever ban people anymore.

>>160993301
>They went to a location, then sat there, doing nothing. The pet attacks on it's own.
>It's a technicality but that is why it wasn't against the rules. But that no longer works since now the pet wont attack if you go afk.

You do know that the summon consumes SP and that every single Sorc in dina bee is MACROING to consume SP pots

>>160992352
>IMC shit on Sorcerers for afk farming
lol no they didn't

Is there a list of skills that count as objects, like for teardown and stuff?

>>160993754

>Pets will deactivate after a minute of afking
>Popular afk farming spots nerfed into the ground
>More nerfs incoming

What?

>>160993806
>Pets will deactivate after a minute of afking
Literally nothing, see >>160993330
and remind yourself that they were already macroing for pots.
>Popular afk farming spots nerfed into the ground
That literally didn't happen
>More nerfs incoming
I'll require source on this one

>>160993870

How many times do I have to repeat myself? People have been banned for holding down their attack key to afk farm. It is against the rules. If IMC catch you doing it then can and probably will ban you for it.

Are all Sorcerers this retarded?

>>160993941
>People have been banned for holding down their attack key to afk farm
No they didn't, go take a look at the forum on how many reports of botting people there are still unanswered.
You're fucking delusional if you think IMC cares or has the manpower to ban people that may or may be not macroing.

>>160994036

IMC use to ban people all the time. Banlists hundreds of people long every week.

They stopped posting them a while ago and people assumed IMC just stopped banning people. We don't know if that is true or not though.

>>160994145
Go check those banlists you're speaking about, there won't be even a single normal name in them.
Those are automated banlists for goldsellers and pure Chaplain bots with 0 quests done.

>>160994145
>They stopped posting them a while ago
No they didn't. They just don't put the list on the front page.

>>160994247

Maybe you should look at them yourself because some of them clearly are not Chaplain bots with random names. Infact, I recognise one or two of the names.

>>160994145
>>160994339
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/c/news/banlist

>>160994401
>Infact, I recognise one or two of the names.
Do post them then.
Some Chaplain bots stopped using random strings as their name months ago anyway.

Another proof that those are automated banlists is the fact that the 2 big Item Exploiters banned a couple of months ago, the ones with +50 equipment, weren't on any list.
It's obvious that the ones banned manually by IMC staff don't go there.

>>160994525

Sure. IMC probably get a list of reported bots and ban them, then the list is generated from this while ones reported on the forums (or directly to a GM when they're online) aren't part of the list.

Doesn't mean they're not getting reported and banned though.

>>160994525
>>160994710
As a dirty bee farmer, I know which ones are bots and a few have them been missing lately possibly banned. But I also know that they get replaced immediately and there are new ones right now that just run around not being banned. That being said, I have seen a lot of those hold Z archers "bots" owned by actual players especially this one Korasai-wannabe from ReRoll that has probably managed to take 10 years to level that character. He seems to have a rock on his Z key and just farms there quite frequently. He obviously never gets banned.

A2R1Wugu2Rogue1Musket2
vs
A2Sap3Rogue1Musket2
both high dex
which is better?

>>160995509
1st one looks like a tryhard

2nd one is welcomed to every party

>>160995616
explain pls

>>160995639
Sapper is cute and is welcomed to ANY party

>>160995774
doesnt answer my questions
like whether the new sapper attributes makes sapper do significant damage at r7 or if ill have time to set up traps as a musket2

>mfw reported a macro / botter
>with video evidence
>
>he's still playing

>>160995509
archers are shit for grind parties
shit for dungeons
shit in pvp unless scout meme

literally no one cares about archerfaggots
you have to be a whale to even deal 10% of what melee physical can deal

>>160996814
what i asked was whether the new sapper attributes allow them to compete with other archer classes not what other class trees can do

>>160996814
But thats completely wrong. Have you never seen a Fletcher-Mergen melt a WB before?

>>160996814
Careful with that edge son, you might cut yourself.

>>160996814
Archers are okay in grind parties.
Okay in dungeons.
Shit in PvP.

I care about Archers.
False.

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>>160991650
Citation needed

>>160998916

http://tos.nexon.com/popup/probability.aspx

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Flanfly guy plays TOS!!

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>>160998962
Just end it all

>>160998962
Would it be better if nexon administrated the international version instead of IMC directly?

>>160998962
That's a different gacha.

>>160999467

No, that is the goddess blessed cube gacha. It literally even says at the top.

>>160998962
>>160999146
Can you even read gookrunes?

>>161000647

Google translate is a thing anon.

>buckle up and use my free 7 days trial token after 2nd dungeon run
>queue again
>they all disapear even though they said 1/3
FUCK YOU

Where is Api?!

Lolipan are you online? I'd like a invitation to Ohayou please.

>>161002541
You'll have to try a bit later. He's not on right now.

>>161002541
I am online now.

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>>161001479
Where is Miko?
Where is Cata buffs?!

>>161003478
I hope we never get either of those things.

>>161003520
Chickens are cute.

Aren't red gems better than yellows overall even assuming that everything crits?

Red gives attack that can be put into modifiers, while yellows are just flat end damage on critting?(Or I am getting this wrong?)

>>161005531
If you're a Doppel, red gems don't work with the attack buff.

>>161005531
Yellow gems are just like patk gems except that they only apply when the hit crits.

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I'll be online if anybody wants a guild invite for the next hour or so.

>>161005906
What happened with the 150 points in SPR that you you had invested?

How many TPs is a new character slot?

>>161006642
33

>>161006642
33 tp each.

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>>161006228
Reset out if. When everyone reset into full DEX, I had to follow or else I'd be left behind. Evasion is a bigger issue for me than being CC'd.

I wear that ridiculous Lolopanther Leather Glove with a Lv7 Green Gem and I still miss like a bitch on Archers.

>>161006838
Stat redesign "soon". I hope it fucking guts DEX and CON into worthlessness.

Question guys, think theyll give out free stat resets? I want to purchase the DLC but it wouldnt be worth my money, I dont need a skill reset nor dungeon reset vouchers nor dumplings at 330

think theyll reduce the price or something?

>>161007259
They've already given out two stat resets.

>>161007259
Don't buy it. They gave out stat resets for the gem change, if they don't give them out for literal stat changes they'd be retarded.

>>161007426
>>161007474
yes this is exactly what I think, they have been proven to give them out for free on every single huge update they have.

my dilemma is im a 75 str rest dex fencer, and at 450 crit rate, I'm not critting most of the time, so I plan on buying the $30 dlc to reset to go full dex for 520 crit rate.

Heres the problem, they will be buffing STR for sure, so theres a pretty good chance that I might need another, and they MIGHT not give it for free anymore since they have the DLC till 22nd of december

>>161006838
>He fell for the single slotted glove meme

>>160987951
>>160988074
>>160988173
i spend many hours lvling there. great map, great exp.

mob ranged dmg is high. a sage is pretty much must have.
most are chrono and its still great to move fast there.

one healer is enough

a decent elem3>WL2 is also very nice there. mobs have low HP, not much mdef and spawns are really huge.
necro are not really good. and pets steal missile hole

any archer, pref aoe

pelt if you can get. sword aoe dmg good too

spawns there are just so huge. fun map

>>160987067
isnt boss drop always the same? i think the 3 or 4 man runs gave same silver as full party

>>161007609
Just roll with those spec. I have 50 str and 50 on mine.

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>sub 5k 24 hour keep
>6 servers
Save this /tosg/
It's all in your hands now

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>>161009817
>Save this /tosg/
>It's all in your hands now
no its not. how?

>>161009817
Sure I'll save it. Let me just assassinate Kim real quick.

>>161009817
It's just the Steam sales effect.
Too bad only a small part of these people buying new games might come back

Now that I think about it, dvine had no idea what he was talking about.

What a fucking noob.

>>161009081
LoloGloves have more accuracy with 1 slot than the second best option with 2 slots.

>>161011179
I hope they remove DEX and don't give the faggots that rolled full DEX resets.

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>>161009817
>saving ToS
Just quit and play more fun games too

>>161011482
second this

>>161011482
Go back to your shit general.

>>>/hsg/

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>>161011824
>/hsg/
Atleast get the game right