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Not made by a tripfag edition

Didn't check the chest before opening it: >>160756106

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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Post souls boobies
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Why are all hosts such cunts lately?
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Evens sorcerer, odds quality
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Claymore and other greatswords is bae
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Anyone want to watch a DaS3 speedwalk with me?
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Also if we can stop letting the tripfag make new threads and stop replying to/acknowledging his existence, that would be great.

Remember, it will go away if you stop giving it attention.
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>>160808297
Nice shitboxes.
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>>160808174
Remember kids. DON'T be a namefag
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>There are people in this thread that actually like Friede
Trash
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Is there a way to make saint bident at least usable ?
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>>160808548
28str/40faith dmb and heavy
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nth for the moonlight sword
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Posting for new thread

To add to the discussion of DaS3 weapon variety, is it just me or did strength get completely fucked?

In DaS2 you had various options for strength builds. You could use certain straight swords to good effect. There were many axes. There were small axes, greataxes, and even medium axes (such as the lion dude axes) which were all fairly viable. You had various greathammers with various cool strong attacks. You had a big variety of UGS to choose from, out of which almost all were very viable. There was a big amount of heavy unique boss weapons that you could use to great effect and had fun attacks on it. You could even use curved swords, like the red rusted stuff if you wanted to. You had fucking lances for thrust weaponry even. A good amount of greatswords and halberds and other such weapons were specifically made with strength builds in mind.

Meanwhile in DaS3 the only things you can use that are decent in your hands are
>greataxes
of which all have the exact. same. moveset. with only one exact attack: vertical chops.
>greathammers
which aren't very good, but atleast they don't scale better with dex than they scale with str. Also just one moveset except for one or two weapons with a special r2.
>hammers and axes
which are just flatout shit versions of straightswords

UGS are quality weapons now. Good luck trying to break 500 AR on a strength build.

I'm already struggling to think of more. There's the occasional outlier like Gundyrs Halberd. That might just be the only one, though.
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>>160808518
Friede is CUTE
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>>160808596

How to get into Kings Field? I met this giant octopus on land but he just slapped me and I died.
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What are some fun weapons/powerstance combinations in DS2
I tried using two Greatswords but the powerstance swing felt borderline unusable due to how slow it was
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Why is this not the best weapon in the game?

WA Roll R2 one shots people.
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What is true fashion /dsg/?
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>>160808761
you're not supposed to fuck with her yet, go explore until you find the right way

the start of KF is basically the start of dark souls 1 if every path but one from firelink led to the graveyard
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>>160808826
My fashion
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>>160808815
Because it never hits anyone ever
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>see a guy with GSoJ
>he throws a lightning bolt at me
>think he must be at least SL200 to have invested in STR DEX INT and FTH
>GSOJ's buff wears off
>turns out it was just a bastard sword with DMB and untrue dark ring
Why do these swords look nearly identical?
Why do these buffs look identical?
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>>160808826
My fashion in impeccable.
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I didn't play ds2 pvp much. Why was this a problem?
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>>160808624
Unfortunately ds3 is already lost. I doubt at this point they would make great weapons great again.

Minor balance changes to weapon dmg is all we would expect at this point. Someone made the point in the previous thread that des did it right, and I agree, where the dragonslayer great sword would knock people around.

Maybe in the next installment.
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>Could running/roll attack with left hand weapon in 2
>Regress to only basic L1 attack in 3

This is what drove me crazy. There is no reason or change in the controls that would have stopped them doing what they did in 2. WHY CHANGE IT BACK!?
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>>160809149

It simply gave a lot of AR if you were high level. I think you could put it on weapons that didn't scale, like Santier's, to give them AR they were never meant to have.
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sl25 invading with knightslayer and greatclub
these goobers are veritably parrying themselves

>>160809143
you look like a dead rat senpai
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>>160809393
Dark Souls 2 had a completely different engine and structure than DS1/3 and BB. DS3 is a jumble of code pulled over from DaS and BB. Rather than overhaul their weapon system to match the one in DS2 they just pulled the one from DaS whole cloth.
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>>160809149
>>160809491
It was a flat damage boost not reflected in paper AR, which made it busted on rapid multi-hit weapons like Santier's or Avelyn. It did eventually get nerfed for those kinds of weapons specifically, though, which ended the era of Havelyns.
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>>160809393
>Could
>Regress

DaS3 in a nutshell
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Make 99 VIG viable /dsg/
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>>160810187
cgk my dude
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Why cant we infuse bows again?
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>>160809636
That sounds about right, given how much different 2 felt compared to the others. Makes me pessimistic that one of my favorite things will ever return. Well that and being invaded in areas where the boss was already dead.
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>>160809143
a solid 7/10
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>>160810407
I feel the same way. Same reason powerstancing didn't come back, there's no fall control quit glitch in 2 when there is in 1 and 3, and skin textures looked so different in DS2 than they do in 1 and 3. Just hope that if they do a game like this again they'll do less recycling so they have an opportunity to really assess what was good about each game and pull in the stuff that really worked from each.
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>>160809636
Except even DaS1 handles things better than DaS3. You had various combos that didn't necessarily stunlock, but atleast looked good.

You also definitely had tons of unique weapons
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>>160809523
I hope you have hornet on
and maybe this get up for old time's sake
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/119240
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>>160810675
Couldn't agree more. The problem came about when they chose to mix together a bunch of shit from DeS/DaS and some stuff from BB. I don't mind the faster pace much in PvE, but it fucks with PvP too much for my taste. If we had the improved netcode and harder to land backstabs of DaS2/3 with the general combat style of 1 I'd be a happy guy
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>>160808596
here you go senpai
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>>160808815
>refined

fucking disgusting
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>>160810187
I did
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>>160809143
This is the only acceptable way to use that headpiece unless you're doing a direct cosplay of NK or a Star Platinum cospoor
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>>160810980
It seems like every new title brings big improvements in some areas, but are also hugely lacking in others.

In DaS3 I love how the matchmaking works. You constantly get chucked into clusterfucks of pvp, I love that shit. But the weapons are the worst in the series so far.
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Is she, dare I say it, our gal?
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>>160811345
I'm really hoping their next attempt at a dark fantasy game takes a tack closer to the earlier souls games OR goes full bloodborne. The halfway mix has a lot of issues I don't know how to easily resolve
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>>160811564
>Red eyes
>Looks like shit
>Behind bars
Absolutely
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>>160811345
>the weapons are the worst in the series so far.
This so much this. I am really struggling to find something to stick to. I can usually home in on a weapon and commit to it, but am unable to do that in 3. I am still holding out hope for the next dlc.
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>>160811564
>veeheeheehe
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>>160811564
>lives in a dark, dank room
>red eyes
>lives alone
sounds about right
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>>160811605
While they do the grimdark stuff well, I'm kind of hoping they'll do a fully different setting sometime. Like a more classical fantasy game, which DS2 was hinting at, might be really cool. Or maybe another direction entirely, like sci-fi
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>okay let's make the healing BB speed
>and make the enemies BB speed
>and keep the weapons and general speed of the player down
>except for rolling which costs half the stamina and has no recovery
>and let's just regress in every way mechanics wise from DaS2
>also, functionally no movesets since we're putting our real effort into our new IPs

Dark Souls 3
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>>160811721
Nice things can be said about it too. The zones are really nice. They look good, they feel natural, some of them are really cool...
Enemies are also rather fun to fight, and the bossfights are the best in the series so far imo
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People that point down after a solid/non-meta/fair duel: what's your story?

I'd just like to know what is going through your head when you do it. Of course you're entitled to use whatever gesture you want after a fight. Hell, if there were a "middle finger" gesture, I'd expect it to get frequent use; but for scummy wins and cheap tactics, not for genuinely enjoyable and good-natured fights.

Are you upset I'm not running a build identical to yours? Are you offended that I actually took away most of your health? Are you legitimately out to passive aggressively rub salt in a wound? Let me know, cause y'all fascinate me.

I won't even disclose the amount of salty mail I've gotten from people that BEAT me (Yes. They won, and felt the need to message me about it). But the content ranges from homophobic epithets, assaults on my integrity as a gamer, and of course unprovoked/unwanted advice on how to play the game "properly."

Seems no matter what weapon/build I run, I am a magnet for this kind of behavior.

And no, my username isn't ISISnazi420blazeit (that was taken unfortunately).

So tell me: what's the real story?
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>>160811947
It means "know your place." You may have thought it was a solid duel, but they thought you were garbage.
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>>160812038
Only this clown would respond in earnest to reddit copypasta kek
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>>160811564
>first time playing
>slowly walk towards the opening, don't step into the water
> (X) TALK
>flirty voice, can't see her
>boner
>step into the water to see who i'm talking to
>mfw
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>>160812095
>he goes to reddit enough to know their pastas
Neo-/dsg/ truly is garbage.
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>>160812038
trust lucy to reply to stale pasta because he's that desperate to have everyone know what he thinks
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>>160812095

shhhh, don't talk to it. You'll make it post more lol
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>>160811947
>heh... maybe you will think twice before getting up... kid
>you're 100 years too early to beat me
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>>160812165
Do you have brain problems? It's not a copypasta from reddit, it's a genuine reddit post that's been making the rounds as kopipe here
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>>160812217
shhh, no tears
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>>160812394
yeah buddy speaking of "knowing your place"
You may have thought it was a solid response, but they thought you were garbage.
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>>160812394
>>160808434
Remind the fucking faggot who he is. Go back to /bbg/ and die there where you belong.
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REMINDER: DO NOT FEED THE TRIPFAG
IT WILL GO AWAY WHEN YOU STOP GIVING IT ATTENTION
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>making another character of the same starting class just so I don't have to constantly redownload my cloud save, respec, switch armor and weapon, etc.

I sure wish Warrior wasn't just purely superior to any other class for a melee build.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_OASWeKTbo
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If you're going to put a Hollow gem in a weapon, is there any point in putting STR or DEX to 40, as well?
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>>160814703
Yes. Quality Hollow is a very strong build

>40 VIG
>40 END
>27 STR
>40 DEX
>30 LCK
>2h Hollow (weapon)
>Hollow (offhand weapon/shield/parry tool)
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>>160811947
>I'd just like to know what is going through your head when you do it.
ehehehehe
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>>160814816
~20 points of luck and gives up a blessed offhand for 10~20 more AR and 5 more bleed buildup

not worth it
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>>160815185

Just use the ring then. DaS3 has FOUR ring slots.
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FCs when
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>>160815512
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>>160808815
because those stats arent even that good compared to several weapons with ez mode wide-slashing movesets - and literally whom are you fighting that get's hit by a purely vertical ultra weapon with like a full second of animation tells before a swing?
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>>160811003
the best iteration in souls

wish they would have made it trick into the final moonlight sword though
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>>160808548
(
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>>160808596
>>160808761
>>160808871
Once you get used to the pace of the game, Kings Field is actually pretty cool. I've only just acquired the fire magic but I like it so far
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>>160811947
heh.....
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>>160816524
I never liked the true Moonlight Sword in KF3, it was way too overdesigned.
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>>160815738
why would they ban people for FCs?
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>>160813838
didn't play ds1
what the fuck is ravioli and what is he doing
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>>160814816
So, for dex bleed, I should do 40 dex and 30 luck for the attack stats, then?

I wasn't sure if a hollow gem makes a weapon lose its original dex or str scaling.
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The only reason people complain about Dark Souls 2 so much is because it asks more out of your intelligence than the other games. Prove me wrong.
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>>160816984

It's a backstep that can go to any direction. Normally backstep just moves you back.
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>>160817028
yes thats true
it requires a lot of intelligence to realize its absolutely shit
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>>160816820
in KF3 it was overdesigned yeah

but it wouldn't look the same in a souls game and overdesigning it there would make it not fit the art style

i just want a second form with the larger crossguard/sharper blade/improved special attack
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>>160808548
Its long, decent ar and a spear. Whats unusable about it?
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>>160817028
The PvE was ass, which is why most people hate it.

Some of the mechanics and ideas in DS2 were actually really good, but the main focus of the game was so poor that it doesn't really make up for it unless you only played PvP.
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>>160817129
It's absolutely shit in how you can't cheese it like in the other games?
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>>160817232
>most people hate it.
That's a pretty broad statement. Unless you meant "this is the reason behind most of the hatred within the specific group of people who DO hate it".

It takes a much, much shittier game than DaS2 for the average gamer (no, not the average 4channer) to "hate" a game.
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Most people liked DaS2. Why else would they have made DaS3 more like DaS2 than DaS1?
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>>160816997
It drops str/dex scaling by a small amount, the added luck scaling usually bridges the gap in terms of physical damage though.

Honestly you'd get by fine with red jelly on a regular dex build, going hollow basically takes you from 5 hits to bleed down to 4, sure if you want to be super specialised it's an option but it's not a particularly good one.
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>>160817402
But people are dropping DaS3 like flies for the superior Bloodborne.
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>>160817242
>cant cheese it
have you even watched a speedrun?

the entire concept of das2 was to make it long so people would enjoy it longer

zones are thrown next to each other without making any sense
the hollowed character looks like something from dayz
bosses are pretty much the same literally having the same fucking tiger twice oh wait no 3 times

its like literally a game where all the people who had an idea got away with it and was put in the game
everything is needlessly long because they thought the more mobs there are and the bigger the area is the longer it is
well really not

its a god damn mess
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>>160816997
Yeah, if you're staying at lower levels like 60/70/80
otherwise, you will want to pump STR up to 40 as well, especially if you're planning on using rouged hollow Onikiri and Udabachi (which I highly recommend).

40 dex, 30+10 luck, Hollow O&U +10 = 377ar
40str, 40dex, 30+10 luck, Hollow O&U +10 =441 ar

It becomes the hardest hitting twin blades in the game and bleeds in one WA+L1 combo or L1+L1 combo

that means you will basically get a bleed proc every two hits, which melts people.
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Bloodborne > Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 1 > Dark Souls 2 (i love dark souls 2 i just dont enjoy it as much as 1)

rate my shit taste
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>>160817598
10/10 because I agree.

I can't go back to the slow combat of DS1 or DS2 after DS3 or BB.
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>>160817598
>no des

Yeah it's shit.
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>>160817653
Couldn't play Demon Souls sadly
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>>160817598
>3 above 1 when half of 3 is "dude remember 1/DeS"
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>>160817338
Most people who came from dark souls one prob didnt like the PvE, senpai.

>linear map design (which honestly DkS simply excelled)
>stats affected roll/item speed
>encourages overleveling (SM) while not addressing twinking as much

Imo map designs werent great, and enemies in general were a pain in the ass as opposed to challenging (put four hundred fucking enemies in one room as opposed to strategically placed to reward consciousness).

Many boss fights were poorly designed and disappointing (I can name a few in dks and dks3 but this game was just in a different tier)
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>>160817731
>DUDE SEQUELS CAN'T REFERENCE THE ORIGINAL
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>>160817598
dark souls = demon souls > dark souls 3 >>>>>>>> a trans thai's bloody piss and shit >>>>>>> dark souls 2

why the fuck would you rate bloodborne as a souls game, literally entirely different concept but it was as good as das3
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>>160817759
sequels shouldn't BE the original
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>>160817598
Quality:

Dark Souls 1 > Dark Souls 3 > SotFS > Dark Souls 2

Personal enjoyment:

SotFS > Dark Souls 1 >= Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 2

(only played vanilla DaS2 after the release of SotFS)

Didn't play BB and DeS, but I feel like I'd place BB above everything else in both sections and DeS around the same level as vanilla Dark Souls 2.
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>>160817759
There's being a continuation of the original, and then there's Siegward.
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BB = DS1 = DS3 > DS2

As someone who only plays Souls game for the PvE, this is how I felt about the game I played. I'll play DeS one of these days.
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Quickstep is the best shit
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>>160818120
is there a counter to a really good quickstepper? All I can think of is perseverance caestus
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>>160818230
If i was a good quickstepper I'd tell you
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>>160818230

Block.
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>>160818230
HA and matching delayed attacks with frames normally work for me. Most HA weapons I used outtrades even a corvian gk so it never became a problem. But I will always clench my butt cheeks whenever I face against a good quickstep user. They're fucking annoying, especially the cancerous passive-only players.
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>>160818527
there are those who use the bloodring with kirks armor literally only quickstepping the whole fight. Idk how to beat it. I have absolutely no problem drawing the game but consistently trying to punish a roll is insane, no matter how i delay my attacks.
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First try?
Pssshhh
Nothin personnel...

Fuck I forgot how much you can trivialize some of the bosses with the DWGR and good dodge timing
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>>160817338
Hate was a rather strong word. I can admit to that.

However, there's no doubt that it is considered to be the weakest game in the series, and that is true even outside of 4chan. Popular opinion doesn't validate anything, but there are times when an opinion being popular merits a look into why it's that way.

A lot of it was just poor design choices.
>the entire reason why you have to go through the Shrine of Winter and slay four creatures of epic proportions is because there's just some waist-high rubble blocking a nearby road
>Straid is in a room filled with exploding mummies for no real reason
>riding an elevator up from Earthen Keep leads to a giant floating lava land suspended in the sky that can't be seen from below, i.e. they just totally didn't think about it at all
>that windmill
>giant ogre enemies with one-hit magnetic grabs of death that take forever to kill and don't even drop anything worthwhile if you manage to kill them
>giant armored enemies at Dragon's Aerie just attack non-stop over and over while spinning on a dime
>covenants are completely borked beyond all repair
>some bosses are extremely forgettable

I mean, each Souls game has problems of their own similar to these, but the sheer amount of everything wrong in DS2 is pretty surprising. They did some really cool things (Duke's Dear Freja being able to crawl down the cliff and attack you early in the level), but it just doesn't make up for all the flaws.
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>>160817598

pve:
ds3>ds1=ds2

pvp/invasions:
ds2>ds1>ds3


meme not related to souls:
BB
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>>160818626
That's because Dark Souls 1 was at a time when dodging and timing actually meant something. To be fair, making DS3 with the same feel as DS1 would have made for a stupidly easy game at this point in the series' lifespan, but making almost every enemy into hyper-aggressive beast mode brutes with infinite stamina and poise was kind of much.
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>>160817402
>Why else would they have made DaS3 more like DaS2 than DaS1

they didn't, though. They made 3 mostly like bloodborne with little bits of 2 and 1.
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>>160819079
Almost no enemy in DS3 has poise aside from bosses. The only normal enemy I can think of is the huge knights.
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>>160819079
Well I'll be getting a ps4 with Bloodborne
Soon, I'll get a Souls-like game that pushes further into this dodge heavy game style that I'd love to have more of.
In a sense, this Ninja build is a bit of a precursor playthrouigh
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>>160812148
>X
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>>160819212
Darkwraiths are only just a foot taller than you and have nigh unbreakable poise
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>>160819212
A lot of enemies poise through attacks.In fact, most large build enemies can do it and will do it often. They can also swing three or four times with ridiculous amounts of active frames on their swings.

It also doesn't help that a lot of enemies react to button inputs with inhuman reaction or just leap all over the place and are almost impossible to hit. Those stupid Ghru Leapers are absolutely moronic, for example. They're fine with any sort of weapon with decent speed, but going through a lot of areas in this game with a slow weapon STR build is painful because enemies can just do things so quickly.
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>>160818928
>the entire reason why you have to go through the Shrine of Winter and slay four creatures of epic proportions is because there's just some waist-high rubble blocking a nearby road
The entire reason you need to kill three out of four Lords of Cinder is to make Gotthard's corpse arbitrarily teleport in front of a door.
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>>160820518
>Gotthard
eheheh
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>>160820685
Sorry, I mean Kamui's Corpse Even Though Kamui Fights You Later And You Loot Gotthard's Sword Off It Despite It Clearly Having 2kat On The Belt.
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>>160820746
No I was just laughing at the fact that you said got hard.
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>>160820518
That's just a gameplay thing. The idea in Dark Souls 3 is that you need the souls of the Lords of Cinder to be able to link the fire again. Plot-wise, you still need the Lords of Cinder to finish the game because the ultimate goal is to link the fire (or at least make it to the Kiln of the First Flame).

In Dark Souls 2, you need to go through the Shrine of Winter to reach Drangleic Castle, but the only reason why you need to do that is because the road that goes straight there just has some rocks in the way. That's it. There's no other plot reason why. It's right there. The path to the castle is right there in front of you, but you can't proceed for just no real reason.

They could have just made the Shrine of Winter be this massive thing blocking your path or at least made the rubble blocking the road be some sort of massive landslide that is completely impassible.
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>>160820858
In Dark Souls 1 you only need to ring the bells of awakening because Frampt is taking a nap.
In Bloodborne you can't just kill Gehrman for whatever reason until you kill the wet nurse.
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>>160821171
No, you need to ring the bells of awakening to signal the Giant on top of the Sen's Fortress Entrance to open the big ass gate
you don't need to speak to frampt once, my dude
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>>160813838
Too bad you can't do this in console without inputting an action first like what the hell From? You could do it in Bloodborne but not in DaS3?
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>>160821171
Because ringing the bells proves to Frampt that you're worthy of re-lighting the flame. Frampt is extremely important to the plot and obviously isn't going to waste his time coming out of his dormant slumber until a worthy disciple appears. Once again, it's a plot reason. Even if you woke up Frampt somehow, he wouldn't give a shit about you because you're just some random goon who has done nothing worthy.

I can somewhat accept the criticism on Gehrman. The game tries to sweep it under the rug with the Hunter's Dream being a mysterious dream-like world, but it's true that it doesn't make a lot sense how Gehrman only truly dies when he challenges you to a fight and loses. He comes back to life if you attack him inside the Dream, so why can't he just do that at the end of the game if you win?

Anyway, DS1 and DS3 have legitimate plot reasons for the roadblocks that are in place. Meanwhile, DS2's literal roadblock has no reason or rhyme to it. Go figure.
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>>160821898

It's a framerate thing. If you run DaS3 at 30fps on PC you can't do it either.
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>>160821932
see
>>160821856
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>>160821932
>so why can't he just do that at the end of the game if you win?
The Moon Presence won't let him die until he has someone strong enough to replace him
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>>160821856
Oh right. So you need to ring the bells because your character doesn't want to just crawl through the holes in the Sen's Fortress portcullis, which are more than large enough for a human to fit through.
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>>160822136
They're...not actually.
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>>160811656
Next DLC will be shit and you know it.
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>>160822136
>which are more than large enough for a human to fit through.
You're crazy and/or blind
sure, if your character is a girl with a Very Slim bodytype and is naked, you could slip through those but een then, you still arent getting all your gear and shit through those things. Not to mention, there are two Snekmen guarding the door, they could just attack you while you're vulnerable.
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>>160822215
Yes they are. Go walk up to them in-game and measure the diagonal compared to the width of your shoulders.
>>160822245
The Snekmen don't even see you from that far, you'd be fine.
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>>160822290
If we're gonna talk about a theoretical scenario where you could actually squeeze through one of those tiny holes in the game, then we can accept the theoretical fact that the snekmen would patrol the entrance and and be able to see you.
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>>160822136
They're not? You're stretching it a bit here. Maybe a human child could fit through there, but not a full-grown man.

>>160821856
>>160822069
Yeah, that's true. Either way, though, you're ringing the Bells of Awakening to signal that you're a person worthy of continuing on the quest of linking the Fire.

>>160822120
Okay, that makes some sense. Thank you. It isn't really clear on that unless you get the third ending, though, and I don't think any of the endings are implied to be a true one.
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>>160822290
???
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>>160822359
Except that theoretical scenario makes no sense because everything in the game suggests snekmen have terrible eyesight and literally nothing in DaS1 ever patrols.
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>they'll never release an HD remake of Dark Souls 1 for PS4
>Dark Souls 1 is forever trapped behind Sony's shitty Playstation Now pay service
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>>160818230
get a fast weapon and time r1s until he thinks you're out of stamina
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>>160817598
>100% pure Objective
First half of DS1 > good parts of DS2 > DS3 > shit parts of DS2 > Lost Izalith

>I never got to play all of it because my friend moved to Arizona teir
DeS

>Pretty good but its own thing, don't really go for Lovecraft stuff seriously fuck off Memezaki with your dumbass age of deep shit in my Souls game you killed the trap waifu REEEEEE
BB
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>farming twinkling titanite in Ash Lake
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>>160822475
theoretically speaking
ur a faget
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>>160822471
Thanks for illustrating my point. Assuming the character wears heavily armored pauldrons like on the Elite Knight set and makes zero effort to pull his shoulders in, they're ~190 pixels wide. Narrower if using lighter armor.
The gap is vertically ~190 pixels high as well, except it's further from the viewer so it's probably a bit wider; and this is measuring straight down, not at a diagonal.

It wouldn't even be -that- tight of a fit, especially if the character were to take off the heavier bits of armor and slide them in ahead of themselves.
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>>160822475
Because the game probably can't handle patrols. It was also likely a gameplay balance decision.

Plot-wise, they still roam the castle. Do you really think that, in the game's story canon, every creature in the world just stands in place for all eternity? I swear, some people keep mistaking hardware limitations and game code for actual plot and lore.

There's a difference between enemies being stationary because that's how the game was designed, as opposed to the writers and developers being so lazy that the best thing they could come with was some rocks blocking a road.
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>>160822136

Even if you could fit there, a closed gate is a symbol for halted progress. There's even an NPC there saying you can't pass.
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>>160822727
>Do you really think that, in the game's story canon, every creature in the world just stands in place for all eternity?
Very possible.
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>>160822714
You're really desperate, aren't you? Are you really measuring a hole in pixels to try and prove your point? They designed a giant gate there to block human passage, and the intention is obvious.
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>>160822758
The NPC is morbidly obese.
>a symbol for halted progress
So is a rockslide.
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>>160822845
>Seigmeyer
>obese
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>>160822845

I'm just saying you're really stretching it.
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>>160822789
You're the one desperately looking for any justification for why the Sen's gate isn't an arbitrary and ineffectual roadblock, which it is. The gate was clearly built to block the passage of giants and demigods, before the tiny little humans became relevant.
It honestly would've been a clever environmental detail to simply let the player crawl through, but be repelled further in by a more realistic obstacle.
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So when ever I start my Dark Souls game this happens? How do I fix this?
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>>160822952
first, get a nice sturdy rope and tie it into a slipknot and hang it from your ceiling

then, place it around your neck and kick the chair out from underneath you.

should work.
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>>160822952

Try dsfix or rename the intro video files so they don't play.
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>>160822947
No, it was designed to keep all beings out? Because that's what gates are for?

>>160822845
>a rockslide
It's just two or three blocks in the road. That are easily climbable by any humanoid. It's a Zelda-tier progression block because, instead of the devs thinking about a plot or lore reason why you can't proceed, they instead think that a few blocks are okay because your in-game character can't jump or climb.

An actual giant metal gate makes sense. A few rocks doesn't.
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why the fuck do you people tripfag when your only contribution to the fucking thread is shitpost

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>160822531
>No Demon Souls port for PC.
>I'll never get muh Waifu in Black.
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>>160822879
>this guy walks around in huge metal armor
>he must be fat
>not ripped as fuck to walk around in that armor

Also nigger stop defending the knee high pillar, that was shit.
The only thing it has going for it is that they didn't dedicate a cutscene show casing how goofy/retarded it is like the fucking "bleeding decapitation statue to drop a 5ft ladder".
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Playing Ds1 this is my character, I'm trying to beat Seath Scaleless now, Should i try leveling up something? Sorry for the language in the pic
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>>160823787
Characters at grand archives tend to be in the ~70-80 range, your stat spread is fine but underdeveloped

>Nowy poziom
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>>160823787
Uhh...
Dragons are weak to lightning
also this >>160824092
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>Get to the entrance of untended graves.
>Shitton of bloodstains by the illusory wall.
>Confused because I'm pretty sure the chest there isn't a mimic.
>Watch them.
>All of them are people just walking off the cliff and dying to the fall.
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>>160824092
Thanks, I play without any armor because wearing them feels slow as fuck is that bad?
I use Silver knight straight sword +5 (262)
and knight shield +5 (85) should i get some better items?
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>>160824425
get the shadow set at least
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>>160824425

Armour makes the game easier, but you don't have to wear it. Your weapon is fine, there are better shields but the Knight Shield looks great so it's fine too.
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>>160824425
>cursed
get rid of that
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>>160824753
Getting rid of curse? You're getting cursed
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>>160824649
>>160824681
>>160824753
thanks for help bros
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>>160823168
It's WRYYYYYYYYYY
Not REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Get your shit together you casual scum
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>>160824997
who the fuck are you?
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>>160823215
Demon's Souls might become available on pc through psnow. It'd be a literal crime though if they didn't port it to PS4 as a physical copy.
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>>160825290
t. juller
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how to save ultra weapons:
instant hyperarmor (pvp only)
no combos only knockdowns
fast low damage pommel bash
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>>160825793
>ultra weapons

when will they learn
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Is Aldritch actually Smough?
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Co-op:

DS3 > DS2 > BB > DS1

Invasions:

DS2 > DS1 > BB > DS3

Amount of pure cancer with the duel tryhards:

DS2 > DS3 > DS1 > BB

Fashion:

DS3 > DS1 > BB > DS2

Originality:

BB > DS2 > DS1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dark Souls 3: Greatest Hits

Bosses:

DS3 > BB > DS1 > DS2

Community (on PS4):

BB > DS1 before the whole "git gud" meme > DS3 > DS2

Weapon variety (in terms of viability and move-set):

BB post-ToH > DS1 > DS3 > DS2

Overpowered magic spammer amounts:

DS2 >>> DS1 >>>>>>>>> DS3 = BB
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>>160825824
delet this
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>>160825793
also fix greataxes rolling attacks
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>>160826145
BB has the best coop thanks to SRRC fun and the fact Chalice coopers get the full reward including gems and stones. DS2 has the worst because of SM inflation.
DS2 also has the worst invasions thanks to garbage like invasion timer or complete inability to heal.
Fashion in BB may be limited, but it has the highest quality assets and some of the most stylish pieces in the entire franchise, certainly better than DS1 in that aspect.
Weapon variety and viability in DS1 is a complete fucking dogshit compared to DS3.
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>>160826464
Almost every weapon is viable in 1 thanks to backstabs :^)
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>>160826574

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwK_njn6Au0
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Do the first two Dark Souls games have any fights like Champion Gundyr? I love the shit out of that fight but only have DS3
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>>160826679
>only have DS3
Feel free to leave and never come back
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>>160826679

Bloodborne maybe.
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>>160826679
No, Gundyr is pretty original with his shoulder bashes and juggles.
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>deacons cast dark magic
>the archdeacon staff is shit for casting dark magic because no int scaling
>witches of izalith have nothing to do with dark magic
>the izalith staff is the best casting tool for dark magic
hmmm
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>>160808261
>Knight is censored
>Cunt is not

GG FROM
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>>160827917
Wait Knight is censored? Shit I wanted to make a foot knight character.
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>>160826679
Don't think so, humanoid bosses in the first two games move in slow motion compared to the champ. Manus has a street fighter combo but he doesn't do it all the time
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>>160827979
Yes, capitals don' t count so you could do "kNight" just as you can call yourself "Nigger" but not "nigger".
Unfortunately there is no way to make the Knight censor frree without making yourself look like a 12 year old that does weird shit with his name.
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>Great Club Meta
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>>160828126
Could I do Footknight XYZ? Also is there a list of banned name words somewhere?
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>>160828263
https://omgftw.github.io/DarkSouls3CensorCheck/

no
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>>160828263

No, because "nig" is in there and there is no capital letter disguising it.
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>>160828331
>>160828385
>The nig part is what's filtered.
Holy shit that is so dumb.
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>>160828468
you haven't even scratched the surface
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>>160828468

C**sen Und***
S***a of The East
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>>160828748
>ead

What the fuck? What is offensive about that?
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>>160828468
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>>160828904
eat a dick, ahahahahaha
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>>160828748

>hiv is censored
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>>160828918
>Holy Nigger Hodrick
>Nigger Slayer Tsorig
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>>160829061
>it's real

but why

and more importantly, who
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>>160828173
STR weapons are really fucking good for invasions no matter what metafaggots whine about them.
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>>160829150

dog is censored as well... don't question it
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>>160829150
For you
http://mod.gib.me/darksouls2/ngword/english.txt
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>>160829235
>Ah, another ***ged contender.
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>>160829061
I think FROM's censoring system just imports every entry from Urban Dictionary's database.
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>tfw completely missed the fact that dark hand swing speed was buffed and not it's even more ridiculous for twinking purposes
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>>160829235
I fuck dogs
Get over it
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>>160829286

Does anyone have the youtube video where that whole list is narrated?
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>>160829286
>bean count
>69
>666
>aunt flo
>bukake but "bukkake" gets off
>corn
>every grammatical form of "fornicate"
>ip freely
>waffle

There has to be someone or some people to blame for this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80PrTpiK21o

Everytime I watch this jap's videos I want to roll a pyromancer.
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>hollow priests buff you when you invade in lothric castle

AMAZING

PROGRAMMING
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>Get invaded.
>Close the game.

2spoppy4me
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>>160829848
>Chaos Fire Orb + Black Flame + Fire Surge combo

Now that's neat.
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>>160830124
>get invaded
>invader runs into mobs after finding out that running r1 into 2h GH does not work
>pop seed

LOL
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>>160830206
>find a place without mobs and watch as lone host desperately tries to cut his way to the boss room, failing spectacularly
>>
Anyone got a latest weapon tier list?
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>tfw taken a break from Dark souls 3
>new dlc comes out
>think about buying and playing it
>all my characters are gimmick builds that I would't feel comfortable playing with in PvE
Anyone else have this problem
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>>160830385
Aren't tier lists justs arbitrary?

You know what's top tier these days:

>CCS
>GFS
>Estoc + Greatshield
>Washing Pole
>most Greatswords

Did I miss anything?
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>>160830354
I do the exact same thing in the DLC.
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>>160829906
its working as intended, actually

as an invader, you are on the same "team" as enemies
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>>160830560
>SHAREfactory

I bet you share your epic pvp vids on facebook lmao
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>it's another person in the arena that just happens to ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''cosplay''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Black Hand Kamui or Gotthard
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>>160830560

>1,08mb

don't do that
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>>160830354
I honestly can't believe people actually need phantoms in this game for anything. Like I used to believe they were just summoning to gank invaders or something but after doing this for a few days they really are just that shit.

I can understand WANTING them for some bosses just because it scales them up and they're trivial otherwise, but normal enemies don't get scaled. Its fucking mindblowing to come to thre realization that we are plating this game with literal drooling retards playing with mouth sticks.
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>>160830909
The game is so pathetic you might as well summon people to have fun in PvE.
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>>160830883
People that point down after a solid/non-meta/fair duel: what's your story?

I'd just like to know what is going through your head when you do it. Of course you're entitled to use whatever gesture you want after a fight. Hell, if there were a "middle finger" gesture, I'd expect it to get frequent use; but for scummy wins and cheap tactics, not for genuinely enjoyable and good-natured fights.

Are you upset I'm not running a build identical to yours? Are you offended that I actually took away most of your health? Are you legitimately out to passive aggressively rub salt in a wound? Let me know, cause y'all fascinate me.

I won't even disclose the amount of salty mail I've gotten from people that BEAT me (Yes. They won, and felt the need to message me about it). But the content ranges from homophobic epithets, assaults on my integrity as a gamer, and of course unprovoked/unwanted advice on how to play the game "properly."

Seems no matter what weapon/build I run, I am a magnet for this kind of behavior.

And no, my username isn't ISISnazi420blazeit (that was taken unfortunately).

So tell me: what's the real story?
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>>160830952
-t. shitter

You're not fooling anyone baddie.
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>>160831020
>ever doing PvE after clearing it effortlessly once

Psh, you're useless
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>>160831005

fuck, I forgot to save the counter-pasta to this
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>>160830782
>>160830883
First time I actually did a webm.

I forgot to change the name

Don't bully
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>>160831089
Heh... You wanna know the real story, kid?

Look.. I been doin' this for a while now.. Invading.. Killing.. Taunting.. There's no better feeling than outplaying your opponent, not only mentally, but physically. First you strip him of his confidence. Then you crush his pride. And.. What comes next.. heh..

That's when you taunt. The fight isn't over until you point down at his lifeless body. You shatter his morality, and twist his emotions until they snap- all with one gesture.

You ever seen a grown man cry? Not out of pain... No. Far, far worse than that. When you see a man shed tears after what he thought could only be done in fiction becomes reality.. then you'll understand. You'll understand my desire to point down.. You'll understand my desire to attack while they bow.. And my desire to embed these moments of misery into them forever.

It's not about being malicious.. It's about making a point.. People like you- people who blindly follow your 'code'.. heh.. You never understand...
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>>160831083
>"Doing" PVE
Nigger please if you can't run through everything grabbing only what you need what the fuck are you doing any why?
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going to Gundyr fight is annyoing as hell
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>>160812394
You're top tier cringe material, Lucy.
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>>160825793
>fast low damage pommel bash

This alone would be a HUGE improvement for the weapon class as a whole. But that would mean doing new animation and not recycle them from older games, so you can't have that, eat shit.

>mfw
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>there's no zweihander equivalent in Demon's Souls
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>>160831624

Greatsword.
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>>160831624
uhhh
this is actually his favorite sword in DeS
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>>160831772
God DeS looks like a dumpster fire.

Remaster when?
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>>160826145
>Fashion:
>DS3 > DS1 > BB > DS2

Surely you jest
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>>160831823
never ever
most people forget it exists(and that's if they even knew it existed in the first place). a dark souls remaster is much likely.
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>>160831772
God I love DeS. My favorite of the bunch. I remember ordering it from North America since they wouldn't sell it in Europe when it was released.
>>
How do I beat Nameless King?
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>>160831752
>>160831772
No, that's what Spy himself said.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoyRcGkDnJo

Around the 2 minute mark.
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>>160832068
Hit him until he dies.
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>>160832086

That's weird, I thought he played DeS too.
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>>160831823

I must say I don't get posts like this. Do you think DaS3 looks good for example? What's a good looking game?
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>>160832217
He did, but it's possible he forgot about it since the Greatsword is kinda trash in that game compared to Dark Souls.
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>>160832287
No, DaS3 isn't really a looker either. The thing is DeS wasn't a good looking game even when it first came out, it's not really a matter of "it aged poorly"

>aliasing out of the ass
>low res texture everywhere
>muddy looking, sub hd res
>atrocious frame rate

I love that game to death, but goddamn if a remaster on actual decent hardware wouldn't be a boon for the game.
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>>160832007
DeS is great, i like that its art style had so much king's field influence

it's really a KF in all but name
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>>160832896
>caring about graphics in a souls game

None of them look particularly impressive nor does that detract from how enjoyable they are.

If you want eyecandy go play crysis or something.
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>>160808964
>replying hours later
because he stole the secrets of darkmoon magic from yorshka et al
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>>160833063
BB is a good looking game. DaS1 on PC is a good looking game, hell, even DaS2 panoramas are not bad either.

It's not "looking for eyecandy" but rather not having a game that looks like it has vaseline smeared all over it in 2016.
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>tfw about to attempt a no-summon challenge run
Any tips?
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>>160833501

Stale memes are my favorite
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So whatever was that balancing changes in the patch notes? Anybody who knows?
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https://youtu.be/pPbFhkZJN6k

What the fuck, FROM why
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>>160808572
This, it does pretty well.
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>>160832068
Practice.

If you can't reliably roll the lightning strike, block it.
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>>160834025
What is this, mace +0?
The Dark Hand would do more damage
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>>160834128
+4, I didn't really think about the dark hand
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>>160834128

What about bleed?
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>>160816948
They were caught having too much fun
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>>160834025
>a fire buff against a boss almost immune to fire
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>host summons 3 phantoms episode

Who has fun doing this?
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>>160834497
His lowest elemental defense is fire., he's strong to lightning The dragon is strong against fire and weak to lightning.

This does more damage per hit than the raw dragonslayer axe
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>you will never live in the timeline where DaS 2 is this epic
If only Trump were elected earlier, meme magic could have made this game real.
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>>160834919
>All Soulslikes use cinematics because graphics are fucking dog gone shit.

nice
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>>160835004
Majula looks nice and a lot of DaS 1 was quite lovely for the time.
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i will never ever think of Earthen Peak the same after reading this
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What's the optimal level of poise now?

Sort of how 120 agility was a guideline in DaS2

I have a few levels left and I'm considering pushing towards 30 poise but I feel it won't achieve fuck all
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>>160835292
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>>160835352
pretty sure this is outdated
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r8 my SL30 dragon twink
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Everyone agrees Bloodborne takes place deep in the Age of Dark right?
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Haven't played DS3 in months and am thinking about coming back. Have lightning spears been buffed at all recently or are faith builds still a cunt to get started?
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>>160835760
btw the twin prince is +1, mailbreaker and caestus are +2 raw
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>>160835812

I like to think it's related to the deep
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What exactly does the Slumbering Dragoncrest Ring do? It says it ''Masks the sound of its wearer'', but which sounds exactly?

I know your rolling and running becomes quiet, but what about attacking, getting hit, shooting arrows?
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>>160836427
Enemies don't hear your footsteps anymore so they don't turn around when you run around behind them.
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>>160834445
t. Claire
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You would think that after 4 games, From would have hired some one who wasn't a retard to pull them up on some things.
>Hey Anon, good morning how are you?
>Hey, I'm good thanks, how are you?
>Oh, you know, working myself to soullessness in traditional nip fashion. So, what can I help you with?
>Well, I went over some of the details you sent me and I have a few issues. The Greatsword of Judgment, and the Profaned Greatsword. I see you plan them to be separate weapons, but trust me, they need to be paired. Also I see your plans for Onyx Blade. Whose idea was it to have fire damage on the buff. This makes no sense, it's the game's only dark damage weapon.
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Could someone test and screenshot this armor setup for me please?
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>>160835812
No, it takes place in the Age of Deep. Turns out that Marvelous Chester is actually a child of an unseen Great One and was sent back in time across eons in order to bring in the Age of Deep.

Do you get it yet? The Age of Deep ... Deep space. Stay woke
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>all of the "pillars of the souls community" people have been playing pokemon and other games for the past month

What did they mean by this?
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>>160836671
>onyx should hit harder and be longer than any other GS in the game

The buff is half fire half dark AR anyway
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>>160836894
So nerf the base dark damage.
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>>160836983
Why do you want to make the weapon weaker? It's fine as it is
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>>160837059
I want the WA to not be a complete waste of opportunities.

If a small cut to base dark damage fits in a full WA buff of dark damage then so be it.
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Heysel is mai waifu. Sure, she can get a bit moody at times... but we make a great team. We've got a good thing going, even when we have our little fights they're never anything serious. She does it out of love.
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>>160837176
What would change? The weapon would be as strong buffed but weaker buffed.
You're trying to find problems where there is none.
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>>160837181
>hear from leonhard how heysel thinks invaders shoulds work together
>invade
>heysel has already invaded
>she starts attacking me
Bravo, From
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MAGIC POWER RANKINGS:

Viability:
1. Pyromancy
2. Sorcery
3. Miracles

Fun to use:
1. Miracles
2. Pyromancy
3. Sorcery

Please like and subscribe thank you
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>>160835812
>>160836250
>>160836779
But when is Demon's Souls?
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>>160837264
>The weapon would be as strong buffed
Stronger. Can you not into balance?
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>>160837339

She's just playful like that. It's good 'cause she's a tiger in the sac, too. Really aggressive.

Just gotta get out of her way for the most part. I come in to save her like the hero I am when she needs help, but she hates that so she playfully shoots some magic darts at me. All in good fun, anon.
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>>160837421
>It's good 'cause she's a tiger in the sac
These delusions aren't healthy. You've never bed her. She isn't real.
Nothing in the game or any statement from Miyazaki implies anything about her sex life.
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>>160837343
>we went from:
1: fire
2: wind
3: water
4: light
5: earth
6: dark

>to

1. Pyromancy
2. Sorcery
3. Miracles

what went wrong?
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>>160837421
so you're saying heysel is tsundere?

>"d-don't help me, baka! not like that backstab helped me when that guy was spamming his estoc on me or anything! i could have handled it! why do you have to be so nice ahhh it makes me so angry senpai~!"
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>>160837364
demon's is in the same timeline as King's Field
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>>160837552
DaS2 is confirmed to be in the KF universe so by extension DaS1 and DaS3 are as well

unless you dont count das2 as canon which i wouldn't blame you for
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>>160837534
I suppose I forgot to add dark magic, but fuck that shit. It's viable if you spam deep soul, but seriously fuck you if you do. RIP hexes.
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>>160837417
It already is one of the hardest hitting GS when buffed, what you're proposing has nearly no drawbacks since the buff is on pretty much always. It's not a hard to get one like dsss
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>>160837660
But DaS2 is a really fun and good game

Also, I swear that some of the weapon sounds are lifted straight from KF2
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>>160836671
Taste is subjective and I dislike paired weapons in Souls games.

Making the weapons paired hurts the flexibility in weapon combinations when it boils down to "oh, the developers force you to use these swords together like a retard and so you can't two-hand an individual sword like you logically should be able to, because lmao it's a paired weapon!"

>Also I see your plans for Onyx Blade. Whose idea was it to have fire damage on the buff.
It's a dark flame you dumb nigger.
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>>160837534
>We will NEVER get the frost dragon spell
>TWO snow/cold based dlcs in which it could have appeared
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>>160837525
>he thinks he can stop people acting autistic
>on /dsg/
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Fuck these rolling rockfaggots in dragon shitstone peak
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>>160837790
They probably are. People who notice the similarities arent imagining it either, Tanimura and a few other key members of that team worked on KF4 and Shadow Tower Abyss

Also given the lore behind KF, it could just be another iteration of a world that Vallad created, just like Verdite was
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>>160837907

someday.

if it does show up, it will probably get nerfed to hell, can't see it functioning exactly like this in souls multiplayer
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>>160837758
BKS hits harder. As does Hollowslayer and I'm willing to bet so does an infused claymore. comparable AR and it ins't split between phys, fire and dark.

The buff SHOULD make it one of the hardest hitting. Otherwise it's worthless. And you do that by giving it full dark damage.
> what you're proposing has nearly no drawbacks since the buff is on pretty much always
You don't get to reason that there's no drawbacks by saying that the buff will be on always. Besides there's debuffing items and honestly, so what? You dump the FP into keeping the buff applied, then good.

>>160837842
Ideally paired would only mean that when dual wielded you unlock a new moveset, not the weapons can't be used independently.
>It's a dark flame you dumb nigger.
And all the the dark flame pyromancies do full dark damage you stupid cuck.
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>>160838027
Kick them, you can roll them wherever you want
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>>160838027
>>160838112
Any one played some co-op soccer with them yet?
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>>160833063
>nor does that detract from how enjoyable they are.
The framerate is dogshit in DeS and it does impact gameplay when the frames drop in single digits and when you barely can make out what environment object are supposed to be.

But I guess DeS gets a free pass on shitty graphics while DaS2 with technologically superior graphics doesn't.

I know art style is more important than the technicaly quality of graphics but still, Demon's Souls chugs so bad sometimes, especially when physics or special effects happen
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I hate this fucking game.
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>>160837525

I've never bed her, but my character has.

I mean, how could anyone deny this handsome face?
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>>160838295
wut r u, casul?
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>>160837176
WA true combos from r1 for a hilarious amount of damage
think before talking about balance changes retard
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>>160838414
homo enamies hev infite stamine gg
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>>160838295
Bloodborne? Yeah me too
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>>160838105
3 GS out of a huge class? Only other one you could add here is buffed GSoJ, otherwise it beats most.
The buff drawback is minimal because applying it has no risk. You can do so with any whiff or by plainly running away. DSSS buff is hard to get off and is an important choice to the weapon. For Onyx you're only unbuffed if you try to fight like so and you can be hit by 4 duel charms at base ATT and still have FP for another. A single blue estus invalidades the strategy of cancelling the buffs.
It is one of the best GS in the game amd really doesn't need buffs
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>>160838529
no des3 infite stamine mobs and npcs real hella epic
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My waifu>your waifu
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>>160838508
>That
>hilarious damage
Yeah, because there aren't other weapons that do ridiculous combo damage too. fuck off.

>>160838565
>Huge class
That's almost all the not split damage greatswords. I'm pretty sure flamberge and bastard sword wouldn't be to far off either.
>applying it has no risk
If you can't think of a way to punish the WA then maybe it's you who's shit.
>Doesn't need buffs
But it's not a buff. It's removing the fire damage and making it dark. That's not significant unless you're scaling off it really well and using a dark clutch ring. And this is ONTOP of a cut to the base dark damage. Just enough so that unbuffed it's slightly weaker than it is now and buffed it's slightly stronger because the dark damage isn't made bullshit by random fire.
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>>160838895
>everyone and their mother NTRs lautrec and runs around wearing Fina's ring
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Best fast swords in Dark Souls III?
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>>160838895
At least I'm not wearing a body pillow tier armor
faggot
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>>160839076
Long Sword
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>>160839001
Your shit fetish isn't canon faglord.
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>Kick for M+KB is fucking "W+Left Mouse Button"
Jesus Christ what were they thinking?
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>>160838964
typical greasword 2hr1-r1 does only up to 700 damage
this does 750 with unbuffed first r1, with buffed it jumps to UGS territory
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>>160838964
Feel free to showcase you punishing it. You can at best hit a crossbow bolt on trade with the WA.
There are more GS you're missing and most should see buffs before Onyx, this change would bring nothing it deserves or even needs, there's no reason to change it while it's not broken or shit
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What is a good level to invade in dlc? 60 did nothing.
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>>160839162

Yeah I was forced to play with kb+m because my controller gave me driver bluescreens and nothinf fixed it. I ordered another one now that works with the official drivers. Worth every penny to be free from these cancerous kb+m controls. I did kind of well in the arena with it but it's jus awkward as fuck to play with and a burden.
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>>160839162
Japs don't have PCs.
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>>160839136
Yeah, you just became dog food
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>>160839230
i'm invading at 75 with both of my builds which goes upwards to like sl100
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>>160839291
What a cucks.
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>>160839361
You wouldn't either if you slept in a coffin 6 hours a day and spent the rest of the time at work.
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>get burned out on cheaters and literal 5v1 red soapstone summoning faggots in aldrich at meta level
>make a new character, start doing SL25 +3 invasions

Damn this is insanely fun. This is what I was missing out on all this time after dealing with all of the bullshit, eh?

>can use fun weapons even against multiple opponents usually
>never see a seed so I can actually have fun learning about the level layout and using the mobs to my advantage when I'm outnumbered
>no hornet ring for the most part (I'm just using basic rings I haven't had anyone drop +2/+3 or leo/hornet ring for me on this character), no one is really one-shotting anyone for the most part

Just fun as fuck really. Mostly just trying to figure out if I should stay SL25 +3 or if I should change (like SL30 +3, SL30-35 +4, etc). Right now I'm getting so many watchdog invasions it's crazy, it's basically what I loved about aldrich invasions (I like co-op invading) except not filled with abusive and OP shit. Perseverance is actually really powerful down here with all of the medium weapons running around.
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>>160839219
>Limiting it to only greatswords
Before it was BKG now it's saber, w/e. Pretty sure people pulled of some ridiculous shit with fagyprincessword too.

>>160839228
There's also no reason it's buff should have fire damage.
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>>160839256
It's so bad to have kick in those two buttons. Like the TWO WORST BUTTONS for it and they picked them. Cannot reliably kick at all
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Come /dsg/, confess your pvp sins to me. Cometh thou to confess? Or to accuse? For indeed all sin is my domain.

I shall start: I use a straight sword with my pyro and spam Chaos Bed Vestiges in arena brawls
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>>160839481

Post face.
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>>160839483
why should i compare a greatsword with anything than other greatswords?
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>>160839645
Why should you not take any other weapons into account?
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>>160835352
Didn't they buff halberds in regards to poise? I hope I don't need to stack more than 50 poise to tank through straight swords. Does anyone have the updated values?
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>>160839602

see: >>160838312

Name is LUL
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>>160839683
Because weapons have higher/lower AR to compensate for better/worse movesets.
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>>160839540
i first beat Nameless King with a fire dark sword
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>>160839540
I pick builds that are suboptimal deliberately just to be a contrarian.
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>>160839838
So fist weapons have the best moveset in the game.
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>>160839925
No, whips do
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>>160822652
>Farming twinkling titanite
>Not just buying it from the giant smith
Why? It's not even that expensive.
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>>160839925
they will be
wait for a friday buff
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>>160839969
Sure it's not daggers?
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>>160840014
8000 is pretty expensive to buy in bulk desu
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>>160839540
I swap to GFS whenever I see someone with a longer greatsword than me
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>>160839481

POST WEBMS

Especially your low level invasion webms. Not the one with that one guy with the dragonslayer's axe killing a gank in the undead settlement, though. You know the one.
>>
I enjoyed playing DaS2 vanilla and the dlc but watching my brother play Scholar of the First Sin edition just seems like they made it worse, with a fuckton more enemies everywhere.

I pity whoever plays that as their first Souls game.
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>>160839481
Completely true.

This is why I never get to META SL.

I usually stay at around 99SL.

Doggo invasions where the funnest invasions I had on any character.
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What shield with a Weapon Skill looks best with vilhelm's set?
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>>160840208
dragonslayer axe twinking is actually the funniest form of low-level pvp
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>>160840274
try the stone parma or shield of want
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>>160839481
You can go up to 35 prob with wolf invade

35 range is 12 - 38
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>>160836697

>he doesn't have a main character with every weapon/shield/item/piece of armour in the game to test/check things out with
>>
>Think I have only one Titanite Slab.
>Sort of just spam level up on whatever weapon.
>Realize it went up to 10 and I wasted a slab.

Oh fuck me
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>>160839540
Whenever there's an INT or Pyro build in the arena team fights, I spam Gundyr's Halberd WA at them and wave it off as being a "physical caster".

I don't regret it.
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>>160840425
you get 11 a playthrough, chill bruh
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>>160840208
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>>160837939
top tier filename
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>>160840365

Depends whether you abuse it or not. Generally I like the low level stuff because I can literally just use a 2H RHH and have a good chance of beating ganks alongside mobs.

I mean sure when I get through enough of the game I'll pick it up and keep it in my back pocket in case shit gets out of hand, but in all honesty I think I probably prefer raw ASS instead since it has the guardbreak WA. In fact now I've started dual wielding the RHH with the raw ASS, since I don't do much parrying anyways especially with no hornet ring. Honestly I'll probably use an offhand rapier or estoc once I get the leo ring.
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>>160840127
farm new londo for chunks and use the souls to buy twinkling

ez
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>>160840484
>>160840425

Also this is why backup saves are your friend. In my first playthrough I just made a quality build and once I hit 120 I saved something like 3 or 4 slabs and made a backup save with around a million souls, and used that to play around with nearly every weapon in the game and try different builds at rosaria. I still do that now, just with lower level characters for invasions.
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>>160840409
>35 range is 12 - 38
That's a lie
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>>160840735
Nope

it's down 20 +10% and up 10%
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>>160840382
Trying to narrow it down. Down to Simple Eastern, Follower, Stone Parma and Shield of Want. honorable mention to Ancient ragon Greatshield because it's so different it feels like a relic or something.

I can't decide though. Simple eastern is nice but that stability is shocking and I would actually like to use these shields. Follower's is nice but the colour is off, but it still kind of feels like it works. Stone Parma I'm not sure of. I don't feel like such a large circle fits the vilhelm aesthetic. Needs to be more kite like or more rectngular. Plus the colour is off. Shield of want is closest I feel and the shape is great, it's just super chunky and off colour.

Jesus why did Spirit tree crest shield have to be a lame parry, I feel like it matches the set so well.

This is the true autism
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>>160840913
Black Knight shield? Looks good with the set and is a great shield.
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>>160840493

Yeah, those bomb thrower guys are bros.
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Can someone drop me +2 rings on pc? Specifically FAP, Chloranthy and Havel's.
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>>160841035
no it was actually the host throwing firebombs because he was out of estus
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>>160841005
Its... too black, too shiny. Kill me now.
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>>160840816
No. Covenant invasions take into account host level. Highest SL that can invade them are Host SL+10%, meaning area covenants have the smallest downward range.
Lowest that can invade a host is host SL-20-20%
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>>160841005
I'm just gonna go with shield of want and call it a defeat. It was the closest.
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>>160841087
>the host was right there getting hit with firebombs too
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Why isn't there attack cancel or order override function in this shit game
>>
Why can I only have 10 chars?
>>
>>160841293
>>160841087

No I think he meant in the original one with the blueberry in it, and in that one I don't think he was purposefully trying to kill the blue I think he was trying to kill the red with the barrel explosion, you just survived it since you were still in the riposte animation. The blue got hit by friendly fire.
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>>160841367
Probably some console bullshit that never got removed because From literally does not care
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>>160841293
>>160841389
I was referring to >>160840493, though it's pretty laggy so I'm actually not sure if that one was his anymore
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What is the most health regen you can have on at once without gimping yourself at all?

I was thinking something along the lines of a luck build with anri's SS, sun princess ring, and an offhand blesstus or ethereal oak shield, I think that'd be around 6 HP/sec right? Anything I'm missing? I want to use stuff that doesn't have a time limit.
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>>160841789

Yeah I don't think he was trying to kill the blue I think he was trying to kill you, you just survived because you were still in the riposte animation so you had iframes, the blue didn't and barrels hit everything indescriminately.

To be fair if you weren't in iframes and got hit by that explosion you would have died considering your health, it makes sense.
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>>160841868

Sun Princess Ring + Blessed-infused offhand + Blessed Weapon on Anri's + Bountiful (Sun)light.
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>>160839136
>>160838895
V-vlad?
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>>160842201
>Blessed Weapon on Anri's
Anon, I...
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>>160842240

You can buff Anri's.
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>>160842437
"I want to use stuff that doesn't have a time limit."
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>>160841091
>>160841281
It's ok Anon, I understand the struggle. The amount of time I spend fixating over the perfect fashion combo is unhealthy. I've even planned builds out based on certain pieces I'd like to wear.
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How do I itemswap now? I heard that it is only safe now if you do it offline on a new character, that have never been online. Anyone can confirm?
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>>160842573
All I can do now is hope for something in the DLC
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Anyone on PC mind helping me move a couple weapons between characters?
I've got all equipment if you need anything.
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>>160842736
Better ask on pamparum.
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>>160841367
Why not?

>>160831319
I bet you say that to all the ladies.
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>>160840315
could you repeat that but in english this time?
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>>160842945
>Why not?
Because I want 11
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>fight with ultras
>shitty internet on either ends
>lose because ultras are backstab bait
>character dies, grayscale but the arena still doesn't announce winner
>opponent just walks around while the time ticks
This is some high tier network coding.
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>>160843047
That's just silly. I think 10 is a fair number. I was like you, in DaS1, I have like 30 characters or more total, but the thing is, honestly, I probably would not have actually played them all. Even with 10, I neglected some of them.

Just delete the one you use the least, and you will be fine.
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>>160843012
Are huge frame rate drops in the asylum demon fight at the beginning of dark souls 1 unavoidable?
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>>160842567
>>160842437
>>160842240
>>160842201

Are regen builds even good at all? How would you use it in an invasion?

I've heard of people playing "outlast" invasion builds where instead of trying to 1-shot phantoms and hosts they play a war of attrition. Seems like fun but no idea how to play it effectively or what SL you'd need to be.
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>>160843514
>Just delete the one you use the least, and you will be fine.
My whims are timeless. Any character I delete is a character I end up remaking.
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>>160843643
Install dsfix and uncap the framerate. Doing so also yields substantial increases to minimum framerates.

If that doesn't help, upgrade your toaster.
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>>160843643
you probably just have a shit pc. never heard of frame drops during the assylum demon fight before. just to be certain, download dsfix. there should be a link in the pastebin
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>>160843795
>>160843856
For the most part the game runs fine at 60, but at certain times, like when asylum demon does his sweep attack and there are heaps of particles, I get frame drops

i7 930 at 3.6 GHz cpu
MSI r9 390x gpu

obviously my cpu is pretty dated but the clock speed isn't so bad for a game like das
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>>160843967
DS1 is pretty CPU-intensive, so that's almost certainly the culprit. Just melt him before he does that attack or back off when he telegraphs it.
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>>160826130
Smough didn't eat a god though, only the people he executed.
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>>160844345
I've beaten the game several times, I just wanted to know if there was some magic I'd missed
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>>160826130
no, aldritch was a cleric, smough was an executioner and later a knight
>>160844449
>>160843967
>we actually taught him english
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>>160844361
Aldtrich only started eating gods after being revived as LoC
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>>160843676
I used it on a 60 and 125 sl build. In arena, it sucks complete ass against people who can punish your healing by large trades or doing high damage in quick succession (nuke spells, high dps or ultras). It doesn't heal quick enough and you have to pop rebuffs without getting hits.

In invasions, it's somewhat viable but you will still end up losing in attrition if you don't kill a phantom. You need to deal strong damage and focus on trades or be really good at guerilla and deal enough hurt, all while retreating so phantoms can't recover hp. Mobs help a lot since they can cover your retreat, make sure you have enough stamina recovery to out run your enemies otherwise you'll get poked all the way to the boss fog. I have won a few invasions just by being tedious on encounters and somewhat lucky that the hosts are too retarded not to seed. Anri's sword may help with the regen but most of your regen will likely come from spells than equipment so prioritize on dealing damage. Otherwise you're just a damage sponge that's made to be bullied.
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>>160810660
They said that the Dark Souls series is finished, but that dosen't mean a spiritual successor wont exist. I assume that they wont reuse assets in a new game universe.
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fucking cuckslayer cuckmor doesnt fucking stop at all during 2nd phase holy shit
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>>160844987

So it's shit. Good to know.

I still kinda like the idea of using sun princess and blesstus together though.
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>>160845248
git gud lmao
Gundyr is way more aggresive
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anyone on streaming? lobos is playing some shit and dist, santzo are off
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>>160845205
>They said that the Dark Souls series is finished
no, they said they won't be doing any more dark souls in the immediate future. but for bad or good, they don't own the IP, bamco does. they could hire another studio. and they will, there's no way they're turning down that sweet bux. at least a 4th dark souls will exist. and people will buy it most likely, for the same reason people watched past the second episode of the new berserk series
> I assume that they wont reuse assets in a new game universe.
hahahahahahha
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHH
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>>160845291
git gud failed
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>>160844987
>>160845285

nigga what

Bountiful Sunlight is borderline broken in the arena
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>>160845512

I'm talking about invasions. Do you think it's worth using something like bountiful light (only needs 1 att slot and 10 less faith) in invasions? Still requires 25 faith, or 15 faith for replenishment for 5 HP/sec instead of 7.
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>>160845485
There are people that lose to him more than once?
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>>160845512
>Bountiful Sunlight is borderline broken in the arena
>takes up all your stam to cast
>slow as fuck to cast
>terrible to cast when you're already at a point where your opponent can kill you in one hit midcasting (which is below 70% but good luck having to recast that while drinking gatorade)
>duel charms are a thing
>high FP cost
It would be if that shit wasn't so hard to punish. Bottom line is, if you're doing any build that has mid-tier magic then you better have the investment to make it even happen.
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>>160845818
I'm on my 20th attempt or so
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>>160845485
did you try turning it off and on again?
you can do it, anon! i believe in you!!
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>>160845730

No, not worth at all.

Invasions: direct healing >>>>>>>>> regen
Arena/Duels: regen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direct healing

>>160845830

lad, you're supposed to cast it at the start of the duel
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>>160845818
There are people that use trip ?
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>>160845913
i just died again when he had 50hp or something
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>>160845859
LOL, how? He is slow, telegraphs all of his attacks 6 months in advance, and has long recovery times that he can be punished during.

>>160845969
I don't know. The activities of mere mortals are below my notice.
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Do all of the following stack, and if not, which ones dont:
>Warcry
>Sacred Oath
>WA from the Sunlight Sword
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Oh that's it.
I figured out why DaS2 combat feels so sloppy and terrible.
Enemies attack too slow. Most enemies attack slow enough if you dodge when they begin their attack animation they will hit you because the attack animation is so damn long. Took me fighting smelter to realizes this
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>>160846063
I didn't know such autistic beings could exist
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>>160845248
>cuck
There's that word again. You have to take it slow and only hit him after his combo. Give up when he's using his shield, that shit has guard frames on some attacks and others do knockdown. You can punish his two-hand super moves since they have slow recovery.
>>160845923
>lad, you're supposed to cast it at the start of the duel
You're delusional if you think people wouldn't recognize your game plan. It becomes a passive fight until you run out.
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>>160846080
sunlight sword and sacred oath don't stack
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>>160845923

Ah okay, so something like med heal or great heal is really what I'm looking for then. Probably Med Heal since it matches the faith stat requirement for tears.
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>>160846063
The funniest thing about your posts is the fact that you're still posting. I remember many years ago when I briefly checked in here everyone hated you already and refused to talk to you as an equal (and no, not more as an equal either, you "witty" fuck).

You've literally been haunting a place for like 4 years now, presumably constantly, and you're not even doing it for positive attention. You're doing it for attention period. What a sad fucking emotional cripple you must be. I legit feel bad for you, and nothing you can say will ever make me mad at you again.
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>>160846131
I wouldnt really say that is necessarily a flaw but I understand your issue with it. Its not as good looking as the snappy animation of DS1 but it just means you have to be patient cant spam your dodge roll
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>>160846080
>>160846251

Also shit like SO and Sunlight SS WA do fuck-all in PvP, similar to the clutch rings or ring of steel protection. They're nerfed specifically in PvP only.
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>>160846251
Why would you ever use sacred oath then?

Is there any downside (beside the weight) to just equipping a sunlight straightsword and using its WA to buff instead of using attunement slots for sacred oath?
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>>160846032
that means you can do it! don't get greedy and you'll get there
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>>160846357
Well that just puts a damper on my build idea.

Is there any reason to go with a faith build in PvP anymore bearing that in mind?
I guess darkmoon blade is pretty good, but I was hoping to not rely on weapon buffs because my favorite weapons dont allow for them
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>>160846063
like i'm legit sure in third phase he can read player input for his third or fourth attack
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>>160846368
sacred oath lasts an extra 15s (45 - > 60) and can be extended with lingering dragoncrest ring
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>Trying to fight smelter demon
This run is such ass.
Narrow walkways forcing you to kill shit, inflate your SM
Literally a dozen enemies aggro you at once
Enemy right next to the fog gate so you can't walk through it
Several archers all ready to poke you when you're not paying attention
Bravo, B-team.
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>>160846480

Well you can still use faith for healing and lightning miracles. Usually sunlight spear and lightning stake. But it can be a bit hit-or-miss, but large damage if you actually hit people with them. Use sunlight talisman's WA for super poise.

And yeah, buffs can be insane with DMB or LB, or even dark blade at lower levels, but you already nixed that option.
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How close am I to the end of DaS ? I've cleared the archives and mulched seath or whatever his name is, and I've got the copypasta boss zone to go through, have I got much longer to go ?
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>>160846259
People hate me because I am better than them and could careless about their impotent whining, period.

The hate started because I kicked their asses in duels, and could not careless when they cried about "muh OP gear." You still see the same shit today, where they whine about anything they lose to, rather than improving themselves instead.

>>160846482
BB did similar things, except it doesn't read player inputs. It reads proximity. The most obvious example of this is the Defiled Watchdog.

The best strategy is to bait out a bite then punish it. However, if you rush in immediately after the bite, it will follow up with another bite. On the other hand, if you want slightly longer, until you see the recovery animation for the bite (starting to pull his head back), he is locked into the recovery animation, allowing you to safely move in and punish him.

>>160846706
More than half done, not counting the DLC.
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>>160846706
75 - 80% through
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>>160846790

Don't worry Lucifer I don't hate you.
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>>160846706
60 or 80%, depending how much optional shit you did
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>>160846790
people hate you because you're an insufferable cunt who won't go away even though nobody likes you and nobody has ever liked you
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>>160846790
As I just said, you dont have to justify yourself to me or try to appear cocky so that you can get more negative attention. I see through that act.

Do you have any family left?
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>>160846706
>the copypasta boss zone
what? if you haven't done the other lord souls, you are about 60-70% in. there is the dlc, which is a bit weird to get to, 3 major areas and some optional maybe
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>>160846790
in third phase his sweeping attack from the above that is like 4th hit in his combo feels like reading a player input because he can always predict where i'm rolling, he hits in front of there instead of where i was like his other attacks

oh well didn't make it through time to close the game and try tomorrow after 30 failed attempts

DMC4 Dante fight Dante reads player inputs.
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>>160846890
How much "major" optional is there, the only real big thing I came across was that painted world with that weird half breed which I killed for muh souls. Anything else like that ?
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>>160846232

After 300+ duels I can say: no they don't.
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>>160846916
By copypasta, I mean that area near ceaseless discharge, all the tarus and capra demons just sitting about, I just backed off and went towards the archives instead
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>>160847090
The DLC, a secret boss, and 2 secret areas.
Might also have accidentaly skipped bosses
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>>160847173
>that area near ceaseless discharge
You may have fucked your chances of getting in the dlc for this ng. See, you needed to go to the depths and beat the Gaping Dragon but don't summon Solaire. You can summon other players. Go through Blighttown without getting toxic even once, bring one other player or no one as you need to be able to summon Maneater Manuel. Maneater Manuel only invades if you kill his homophobic sister, Mildred. Mildred doesn't approve of Manuel's ways, so when he invades (EXACTLY 23 minutes after you beat Mildred) he drops for you "The Golden Phallus of Travesties", which you'll need later.

Get to the fog door for Queenoflag and summon Manuel after he black stones out of your world. If you killed him you're fucked until NG+. Defeat Queenoflag and go down to the illusion door. Break it and join the Chaos Covenant.

TRICKY PART: Talk to the white spider and right as she says "..." you need to pull the plug on your console/alt f45. You then take out the disc and blow on it if you're playing 350 or PS3. If you're on PC, go to the install directory and blow on your monitor. Don't ask me why this works, it just does. After that you need to beat the Ceaseless Discharge and get him to stop the lava flow so you can get to the Demon Ruins aka Prison Hell. Once there, simply have the big worms spray their Oolacile juice on your weapons so that they're at risk. "At risk" is short for "At risk of teleporting the user to Oolacile Townshirt", which you want. Once that's done, gather up all those living statues and do the Channeler's Dance. I actually forgot to mention you need to get it from Duke's, but don't get Avelyn or it will corrupt your DLC. Once you're dancing like a big nasty Channeler and the guys are surrounding you blowing fire on you, you will probably die. Upon reviving at the nearest bonflame, roll off the edge and kill yourself IRL for reading this entire tutorial. Once all of that is done you should find yourself in the Abyss.
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>use straightsword
>people play fairly aggressively

>use greathammer
>people literally just strafe far away from me, waiting for me to attack so that they can roll through the attacks

How can I punish this? It's the biggest issue I have when using slow greatweapons. People start playing so goddamn passively and never do anything unless your stamina bar is empty, so I get impatient and start chasing them down, which greatweapons are fairly terrible at.
What can I do to force them to actually fight me and not just react to me? I'm thinking something like a spell or second weapon that forces them to engage me or get chased down relentlessly
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>>160847238
>Secret boss

You mean the stray demon by any chance ? I had to go through him to get the doll for the world. Admittedly a friend did tell me about, I probably wouldn't of found my back to the aslyum without that.
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>>160847360
there's a super secret boss.
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>>160847360
No. The boss is in anor londo. (Not the painting)
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>>160847410
If it's another aslyum demon, am gonna be sad. Maybe he has lighting AOE instead of fire this time, whoooa.
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>>160846623
SM stops being issue as you get to higher tiers
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>>160846978
I think it is like the asylum demon in DaS1. People complained about the same thing with his jumping swing. The issue was that it actually tracked until the swing itself started. So if you rolled during the jump itself, you would always get nailed, but if you waited until the swing itself to roll then you would always dodge it.

>>160847345
>How can I punish this?
Put a spear in your off hand.

>>160846896
An people think I am an insufferable cunt because I do what I want instead of allowing myself to be brow beaten into group think.

People hated my Behold Perfection build and hated that I styled all over people in duels with it. They hated that despite their whining, I would not stop using, or winning, with it.
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>>160847474
Well fuck, I better do another sweep of the area, can't be missing bosses now.
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>>160847523
>. People complained about the same thing with his jumping swing. The issue was that it actually tracked until the swing itself started. So if you rolled during the jump itself, you would always get nailed, but if you waited until the swing itself to roll then you would always dodge it.
Dark Souls II did this so fucking much
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>>160847523
>Put a spear in your off hand.
What's the lightest, longest spear in DS3 for that purpose? Or other alternatives?
I don't have a ton of equipload left
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>>160847324
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>people still giving gay lord lucy the negative attention he wants in 2016
>when all he's gonna say is more smug arrogant shit to get more (you)'s
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>>160847763
To be fair I did attempt to ask him about his personal life to maybe help him with his problems but he flat out ignored me
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>>160847495
>If it's another aslyum demon, am gonna be sad
>got to go through demon ruins still
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>>160847324
Am not too prepared for the abyss IRL, I'd rather visit it in-game.
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What are some good weapons for a sorcerer build in II?

All I can think of are the MLGs, Watcher GS, and Blue Flame.
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>>160847345
>>160847673
>>160847345

Or you could, oh idk, use a greathammer with an offhand SS you can switch to when they try to get in close after rolling past your big weapon?

You literally answered your own question.
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>>160847673
Just recreate your build in MM and play around with it there.

>>160847640
Yeah, I got through DaS2 with base ADP originally, just by rolling super late on everything.
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>>160847832
I had hope for new different demons, are you telling me it's the same ones again ? Oh baby.
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>>160847495
It's a boring easy boss though and killing it has in-game consequences
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>>160847910
You're essentially suggesting I just drop the greathammer and use a straightsword instead, you know?

That's not quite the solution I was looking for
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>>160847815

Yeah, because he doesn't want help, he wants to act like an arrogant shithead who thinks he's better than everyone else no matter what even if he abuses OP shit in the game in an effort to gather (you)'s.

He's basically /dsg/'s equivalent of scott jund. Like scott just harvests youtube and twitch views by using only meta fag weapons like the carthus curved sword and harvesting the hate. People getting mad at him and telling their friends "hey look at how much of a faggot this guy is" just gets him more views.

It's like wondering why Reynad let people shit on him 24/7 on the text to voice donation thing and then you realize he makes a lot of money that way so he wants it to happen as often as possible.
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>>160847984
there is one more sameish demon, one other unique demon right after and 2 bossfights in the dlc that are demonish
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>tfw the host and his phantoms call your bluff and realize you are in fact autistic enough to sit in their world waiting for them for 30+ mins
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>>160848185

I'll add: lucy is the worst because HE DOES IT FOR FREE. At least the others have varying degrees of monetary gain involved in their "please get mad at me because I act like I'm better than you" charade.
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How do we make hexes great again?
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>>160847904
Anything with good base damage. Black dragon weapons, BMS, zweihander, lost sinner's, malformed skull and some others.
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Holy fucking shit 2 is such bullshit
>Kill enemies
>LITERALLY WAIT FOR THE INEVITABLE "HURR SO CLEVER DID YOU RIKE IT?" AMBUSH
>Nothing
>Okay, must not be spawning anymore
>Continue on, kill an enemy, aggros 2 enemies further up
>Suddenly 2 enemies come running up behind me, how the fuck did they even get here that fast
2 is such fucking trash why am I even playing this.
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>>160848073

No I'm saying you dual wield. You can even 2H the GH most of the time and just tap the button to switch from 2H to 1H and let off a couple of L2's when you need to, then go back to 2H'ing on the fly. People do it all the time with Yhorm's in the offhand (you can still 2H the yhorms by holding down the button for switching between 2H and 1H instead of tapping it).
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>>160848185
>he's better than everyone else no matter what even if he abuses OP shit in the game

Let me guess, you use a shitty weapon then lose that as an excuse whenever you lose.

>I didn't really lose because my weapon wasn't meta!!!!1111oneone

LOL. If you dislike what I am using and want me to switch it up, then find something better, beat me consistently, then I will start looking for a counter to that. And through that process, we will both improve. Having little bitch, slap fights helps no one.
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FIGHT CLUB
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>>160848453
>Failed to notice an ambush.
>Mad at the game.
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why the fuck do greatswords cost no fucking stamina to swing

>hurrrr durrr lemme just swing this onyx blade sanic fast with ultra greatsword reach 7 times in a row huurrrrrrr balanced
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>>160848496
BF ?
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>>160848453

What are you even talking about.
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>>160837534
>>160837343
>le miracles is bad meme
also when did pyro become a top tier ?
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>>160848490

I mean you're just proving my point, man. I'm just giving you this last (you) to point that out, you've acted and continue to act exactly as described.

You're pathetic, and I pity you because considering how long you've been on this board with the same old gag, I don't think anyone can help you.
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>>160848453
>Baby's First® Hand Holding™ Level Design & Mob Placement Experience©
>fails to notice extremely obvious ambush

Sounds like you're the one at fault here kiddo.
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>>160848809
Face it, you're just still salty that I pushed your shit in since DaS1, and continue to do so till this day without giving a single solitary fuck about your "muh OP meta" whining. Just seeing my name is a constant reminder that you are not good at the the game, and certainly not as great as you try to convince yourself that you are, and you just can't take it, which is why you constantly lash out at me instead.
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>>160848571
I waited a good 30 fucking seconds. I didn't fail to notice shit.
Yeah apparently those 2 enemies aggro from a mile away, they just take time to reach you.
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>>160848853
>Don't even know what ambush encounter I'm talking about
>Assumes it to be obvious
Lol defend 2 harder, 2yearold
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>>160848805
are you fucking retarded? he talks about the types of magicks from KF and DS. also, pyros ARE the best spells by far. in 3 at least
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>>160848453
You think you'd learn after the first couple of ambushes.
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Anyone want to co-op Twink Princes?

SL120 PC dsg Grand Archives
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>>160848578
BFs are banned and dead!
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>>160849070
Where was it? Iron Keep?
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>>160848453
Are you talking about the katana guys in iron keep? You can lure them out easily and backstab them. The game gets better with this shit later on though just keep playing.
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>>160849241
>>160848853
>>160848787
>>160848571
There's a massive difference between
>Ha you failed to notice these enemies around the corner
And
>These enemies have a fuckhuge aggro range and from where you enter the area you can't see them, following along the path to the boss means you have no LoS on them so you continue on and they run up behind you later, probably when you stop moving and starting fight then next bullshit cluster of enemies a whole minute later.
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>>160845390
Dark Souls is a dead Twitch game. Thank god too, all the Soulbrandt faggots have fucked off.
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>>160849475

What the fuck are you even talking about. Which mob
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>>160849374
>>160849471
yeah it's iron keep
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>>160838895
Nah.
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>>160849475
I honestly have no idea what ambush you're referring to that would fit that description.
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>>160849957
Put your trip back on Lucy
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>>160849957
>tfw no leeroy set in III
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>>160849475
first off, i have no idea which point in the game you're referring to
secondly
>knows the game has ambushes
>doesn't look around every now and then when you're traversing unknown territory
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>>160849475
Ah, this made me remember das1 superaggro mod. Fun times.
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Why are there red-eyed enemies in the DLC?
I thought red eyes specifically referred to Abyss corruption?
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>>160850141
Three doesn't have enough new unique equipment vs. recycled sets as it is.
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>>160850003
It's probably the one ambush where knights jump down from a roof of the room where you used to get ember from.
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>>160850003
>>160850198
It's probably specifically because I killed so many enemies in pre-smelter iron keep certain enemies stopped spawning so I could rush through later but since they aggro from far away effectively what they do is run up behind you past the bridge and fighting the captains and other knights.
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I'm sad that we may as well missed a lot of areas that were in process of being made until they just scrapped it and gave us teleports. It doesn't make sense we had to teleport twice just to get to the final area, it appears to have been similar to the first game only we have to transverse a merged city in a straight line just to get to SoC. I bet we either fight different npcs from different eras and black knights like we did in DS1.
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Why do people complain about 3's input que problem when 2's is far worse?
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>>160850853
But i don't remember having quite as much trouble with que in 2 as in 3, though it still was bad.
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how does /dsg/ feel about this video, and about the uploaders' feelings on what makes the Souls series great?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC3OuLU5XCw
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>>160850296
2 had two new unique versions of Leeroy's set though.
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>>160850853
Because it isn't?
Reminder that DaS3 buffers WD attacks infinitely if you sprint while blocking and then stop without releasing block. Now that's some quality A-team coding.
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>>160850925
3's not as bad because you can make more mistake
2 requires more precise timing so input que screws you over far more because you are punished for mistakes more.
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>upgrade weapon to +7
>suddenly, every invasion in aldrichs spot is meta tryhards
Now I know what to avoid
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>>160851248
That's completely different, it's not "buffering" anything and it certainly has nothing to do with input queueing
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>>160849291

What NG?
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>>160850853
>incredibly short input frame to extend most "charge" type WAs
>if you press the trigger late or twice you do a strong attack 2 whole seconds after
Nothing like that in DS2
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HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FIND A BF??!?!
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>>160850296
there is literally 0 reason why 3 wouldn't have all the sets from the previous games. where the fuck is my lord's blade set? where's my iron golem and steel sets? where's my suspicious shadow set? where's all that gladiator fashion? WHERE'S MY FUCKING WANDERER'S SET REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I've finally upgraded my PC to play DS3 and am coming out of my cave. I have not looked at any information about it.
I just want to know one very important thing.
Is melee only still the true way to play?
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>>160851718
Obviously
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>>160851718
No.

Sorcery and Pyromancy are both viable.

Not top tier but definitely viable.
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>>160851716
>literally 0 reason
consoles and memory limitations on them
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>>160851829
It's 2016, xbone isn't THAT shit
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>>160851829
They could just sell new armor sets as DLC.

I don't know why the kikes at Bamco haven't figured this out yet.
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>>160851718
No, but it's about a thousand times easier
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>>160851914
Current year is not relevant and yes both consoles are actually this shit. Similiar reason gestures on messages approximate armor and firelink fog walls exist
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>>160851716
Fagsoft managed to half-ass many of the sets currently present in the game. Imagine how horrible it would be if they actually brought back every set from the franchise.
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>>160851584
++

Already did it.
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>>160851914
It's not the console, it's the storage media. Blu-Ray discs are only so big. A single layer disc is only 25GB and Dark Souls III is currently taking up 21GB on my HDD.
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>>160851254
I really don't think that 2 punishes mistakes more. Even if you que roll as you get hit, most of the time you just roll away safely. In 3 they made almost all enemies fish for panic rolls, meaning that if you qued roll you're dead meat. I still remember my first dancer kill. At second stage she has one particular attack that comes much quicker than every other, and it threw off my timing so much, but it didn't deal that much damage, so it would be okay. However, after that attack always comes a roll catching follow up, and since a roll is always qued roll when you fail to react to a quick attack in time, it meant my death guaranteed from missing a very quick attack. That's some royal bullshit.
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>>160852023
>Similiar reason gestures on messages approximate armor
How does that make sense, all those assets are loaded anyways since you can have every armor in your inventory
>firelink fog walls exist
Because of shitty load times. It's not like the interior unloads when you go outside, it just takes longer
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>>160851718
melee is now babby's first ezimodo run through. mindlessly easy and straightforward. perfect first run
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>>160852282
>since you can have every armor in your inventory
They're not models in the inventory my technologically impaired friend

>Because of shitty load times.
And which systems have shitty load times?
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>>160851701
I stopped hosting because of posts like these, so congrats
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>>160852404
>They're not models in the inventory
The game does not crunch whenever you equip something new. Those assets are loaded.
>And which systems have shitty load times?
Consoles. Firelink fog wall exists because consoles load slowly. I pointed that out because it has nothing to do with anything else and I don't know why you even brought it up.
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Does Elfirede's Scythe WA give you q massive poise multiplier or just a set number of poise when you use it? Would it actually benefit me to get more poise when I use it?
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remember how the instant backstabs and poise were the reason why people played so passively?
thanks god tanimura came and fixed that, creating perfect pvp
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>>160850141
>find Paladin's Ashes on my first playthrough
>get fucking hyped because 100% sure I'm going to unlock Leeroy's armor or at least the iron replica from DaS2
>neither lmao
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>>160852743
>Those assets are loaded.
They might start loading up when you go into the inventory screen or something. That doesnt mean they're in memory 24/7
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>>160852846
>tfw half of the ashes you find feel as if they don't give you enough awesome shit to buy.
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>>160852956
Shrine Handmaiden was a mistake. There are so few chests in DaS3 its fucking criminal, and they all either hold twinking titanite, scales, or theyre mimics. What the fuck From? Theyre creatively bankrupt
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>>160852826
Because of how hyperarmor/poise works you can literally only play aggressively if you have a fast weapon.
But fast weapons have terrible damage and reach.
So people play with stronger and longer weapons, which are slow and easily punished on a wiff.
So most people play passively.
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>>160853256

Fuck everything else though, as long as I can fuck people up in invasions I'm happy.

All this game is good for are the low-mid level invasions. Once those die I'm out for good, but it should at least keep going until For Honor comes out and I can switch over to that.
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OKay guys, i haven't played the dlc yet.
Tell me what were the most interesting parts for you?
I'm also really interested in unanswered lore, so please tell me some stuff that was interesting for you.
Any characters from before?
Who's the little grill?
Is it the painted world of ariamis just spelled differently cus time?
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>>160853420
>But fast weapons have terrible damage and reach.
?

>So people play with stronger and longer weapons, which are slow and easily punished on a wiff.
??

No they just fucking play with curved swords and straight swords which deal just as much damage as everything else and are really fast
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When will Dragonsis host again?
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>>160853626
Curved swords are fast but not fast enough that they can't be hyperarmored and out-traded.
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>>160853420
>But fast weapons have terrible damage and reach
kek
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>>160853708
They are literally fast enough to hit before hyperarmor takes effect on most weapons tho
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>>160853702
Hopefully never
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>>160853708

Especially with the GS HA buff, it was glorious watching jund get his ass handed to him over and over again back when he wasn't playing pokemon all the time.
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>Lorian went to Izalith (hell) and singlehandedly killed most of the demons
>used a big fucking sword
did he rip and tear?
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>>160853957
>Lorian's probably the source of all the dead demons in the Smouldering Lake.
>He isn't even in the top three difficult bosses.
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>>160852540
yeah ok claire
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>>160854215
well, he's crippled when we fight him
he was able-bodied back when he went full doomguy on izalith
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>>160854215
>We dont even get his actual cool sword
>We get a shitty bait and switch version
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>>160854254
I don't know who claire is but if you drove other hosts away doing the same cringy bf shit, that's even more funny
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>>160854398
t. Claire
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>>160854514
t. desperate shitposter begging for PCFCBFs
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>Play first character pure str build
>Win/Lose like 50/50 matches at duel arena
>Make quality jack of all trades almost all stats at 20 and important ones at 30.
>Now on 38 win streak

I like the PVP more than DS1 but god damn balancing is pure bullshit, or actually balance is the pure shit. I'd like to make some fun pure stat characters like in 1 and actually be effective.
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>>160854573
t. Claire the bitch
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>>160853880

Don't say things like that.
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>>160854670
t. still begging for PCFCs
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>>160854801
Claire t.
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>>160853878
Learn to space then
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>>160854959
>learn to space
>when popular curved swords and straightswords are only outranged by spears and the occasional special weapon like yhorms
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>>160854959
>people still think the length of a weapon is what defines the range
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>>160854327
Time-warp DLC when
>Fighting full power Lorian.
>Farron before it went to shit.
>An even crazier Gundyr fight because why the fuck not.
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>>160855150
>>160855354
>wah why can't I mash r1 like the curved sword kiddies
Hint: attacking makes you move forwards, right?
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>>160854592
been saying this for a very long time, but the meta for DS3 should be like 60.
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>>160855410
I like how instead of defending your outright wrong claims, you just jump to new claims. First it was "small weapons have terrible damage and reach". Once pointed out that it's wrong, you move goalposts to "but hyperarmor means you can trade with them". Once pointed out that hyperarmor is unreliable as shit when someone is using an incredibly fast weapon, you move goalposts to "learn to space!" Once pointed out that some straight and curved swords have supreme range, you say this

>Hint: attacking makes you move forwards, right?
So what are you even trying to imply now? That you will be able to punish a whiffed curved sword or straight word hit with a weapon like a greatsword? No you fucking won't because it's too slow to hit a a straight/curved sword user before they roll away, even if you do a completely predictive counterattack

The only way to deal with those fuckers is parrying but then faggots like you whine and bitch about the cestus parry meta
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>>160855780
Works fine on my machine.
I never have trouble against straight or curved swords even with UGS
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>elajjaz
he should just turn his stream on and meme instead of sucking so fucking hard at speedrunning

he is not on a single leaderboard of any of the souls game

what a shitter
yeah yeah i know he is rich
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>>160855587
60 seems like a bit too limiting, 80 is more normal for any build to have enough core stats but not too much.
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>>160855387
>Literal Fucking God Gundyr
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>>160856301
what the fuck are you even talking about and why should anybody care
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>>160855587
>SL60

There would be two, possibly three viable builds. How is that an improvement?
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>>160854592
>>160855587

Honestly the game becomes a whole lot more fun if you play at lower SL's than 120. I'd suggest never going above 70 +8 in all honesty.

You get into meta territory on PC and you see shit like this all the time.
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>>160856332
Nah, you're wrong on both accounts. 125 is fine for a duel meta, and I invade at level 50.
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>125
disregard the post directly above me
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>>160853420
>But fast weapons have terrible damage and reach.
Are we playing the same game?
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>>160855587
>>160856332
If you limited it that low, you'd be killing faith and int builds because they still need weapons to be effective

So you'd essentially be making the problem worse by only allowing for quality builds now
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>>160856301
he used to be good, I guess he just got bored but he still needs the twitchbux
did he go anywhere with SotC? I remember him speedrunning it
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>>160856546

what weapon upgrade level? i'm sl56 +5 atm but im thinking of going up to sl60 +6, especially since I like using the bk shield and other special upgrade weapons that max out at +5 so everything is double.
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>>160830542
2kat
lag flame
sabre
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>>160856536
I suggest never going over +6 if you plan to stay under 70.

You singlehandedly avoid all the meta duel people that way and whichever weapon you use is viable. I had tons of fun doing level 60 +6 pvp with a pickaxe earlier. Sadly I brainfarted and upgraded something to +7, now it's ruined
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>>160855587
60 is mid-level invade range, 80 sounds fine for endgame considering you'll be about mid-70s in your first playthrough when you get to SoC

>>160856695
there are weapon infusions for INT/FAI/PYRO so you only need base STR/DEX to wield them
ideally if you're going a caster you're not even going to be using your weapon that much since your investment is going to be in spell damage
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>>160854592
It's not about the stats, it's more about the weapons.
You were using str weapons, which are all shit simply because they are pretty much joke classes now.
Now you are using quality weapons, which are usually the meta weapons.
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>>160855936
feel free to post your webms
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>>160856347
>Gundyr when he's at the required strength to link the flame
>We only ever fight him when he's SL 1
>We never meet him when he's SL 120 powerstancing halberds
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>>160856810

From what I've heard, 70 +8 is very popular for invasions and +7 and +8 are essentially the same so there's literally no reason to be +7, you either go +6 or +8.
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>>160856770
Usually + 5 or 6
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>>160856624
>tfw 127 because I missed 2 points for another idea and was too lazy to go offline and cheat
Feels good to be special
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>>160853957
He's literally a Black Knight compared to his brother's expected to be Silver Knight until they found out he was frail and gay.
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>>160856854
But nobody is going caster because spells are viciously terrible in PvP.

Weapon buffs are a tool to put high level faith/int builds on tier with high level other builds. At level 60, a build based around lightning blade is outperformed hard by the same weapon refined with nothing on it.
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>>160856536
Really, that shit is becoming more and more common to the point I just stopped playing the game.
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>>160856873
>because they are pretty much joke classes now
>now
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>>160856982
>But nobody is going caster because spells are viciously terrible in PvP.
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>>160856920
I feel like +9 is also a good alternative if you want to catch pussies like me who never go over +6 because they dont want to fight +10 players

But realistically you're just going to be invading +10 people 99% of the time
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>>160856873
but ugs are quality too
im pulling your leg, i know what you mean
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>>160856731
yeah got to bloodborne because he sucked so much dick

he cant even focus on two things at the same time
has nothing he can talk about
absolutely abysmal at the game

i used to watch him a lot when he was good but he is so awful nowadays, he repeats the same shit 5 times because he legit has nothing else to say

i just tuned in because dist isnt streaming but i cant bear to see him suck so hard and being retarded
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>>160856926

alright i'll go 60 +6 then.
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>>160857089
Name a single spell that you can't just dodge by spam rolling. This isn't DS1 or DS2 where you could get caught between rolls by laggy projectiles.
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>>160856982
Then play quality.
Just because you have different numbers, your "faith" build that is just a regular melee one with a yellow/purple weapon doesn't play differently from a str/dex one.
If you get caster stats and use no actual spells, just go quality, dex or str
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>>160857272
>then play quality
Which is what the original complaint was. "Quality is OP".

I'm saying it'd be even worse on lower levels, because alternatives would be gone. And you're reaffirming my point.
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>>160857239
Name a single weapon you can't just dodge by spam rolling. This isn't DS1 or DS2 where you could get caught between rolls by laggy swings.
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>>160857049
Well in Des, Das1 and Das2 you could do something with it.
Demons had knockbacks and insta hyper armor.
Well fuck 1, that shit was backstab city who cares what weapon you use.
2 even had powerstancing, different movesets, more combos and more crazy shit to do with it.
Now they are just there simply being useless as shit and objectively inferior to everything else.
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>>160857395
Exactly. Why pick up spells to suck if they offer no advantage over melee weapons which are free to use already?
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>>160856995

It really never happens at lower levels though, just at meta level really. At SL60 +6 I run into few seeds if any and literally no cheating, I think if you stay at SL70 +8 and lower you're totally fine, in all seriousness. Meta level is where all the assholes go, essentially.

Main point is, it's not like the whole game is like that.
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>>160857365
I'm pointing out levels do not matter for casters viability amd you can't use this argument for either beog pro or against lower SL meta.
A 120 dark or DMB build isn't anything different from quality and doesn't add any variety to that SL.
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>>160857508
boy get your retard ass out of here with that "lel any good player will dodge any attack" ideology
unlocked spells are harder to dodge than weapons due to bigger/longer lasting hitboxes and better range than any weapon in the game that isn't a crossbow
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>>160857590
I just today experienced this.

Been doing aldrich and moundmaker pvp in the aldrich zone. SL 60, +6 weapon. Tons of fun, people with phantoms going through the zone, fucking with them and taking out their phantoms as they try to clear the level, etc, nobody tryharding except for the occasional twink gankers presumably at +9. Not a single cheater.

Upgraded a weapon to +7 on accident and now all I'm getting is meta duels, encountered my first 3 cheaters, nobody moving through the zone EVER... It's downright cancerous. It's my first playthrough, so I was gonna level up at some point, but I will definitely remember this cutoff point.
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What's the standard quality stats at sl 50? I'm worried that I might not be able to do much damage or have enough to tank. Extra stam for valorheart, I want more stam for the blocking frames without being guardbroken.
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>>160857779
>>160857590
What do you guys think it's a good level/+ for farron watchdogs? I really like playing in that area.
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Why is there a bloodborne thread with so few posters? There are like 60 but most of them are shitposters
I guess you need a special little place for those special little people who play on their special little box with their special little game
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Tell me a secret /dsg/
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>>160858038
You guessed that right.
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>>160858038
Why even complain? Be glad they're not here, back when the threads were 1 it was truly cancerous in here. Just constant never-ever posting
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>>160858069
Who the fuck is this bitch?
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>>160857439
DeS had only two that could compete with the strongest weapons and they were the best in the series then.
1 chaos rapiers could reliably replace them for backstabs and the faster weapons could be swung without getting backstabbed for free if they R1ed at any time it'd not be a backstab.
In 2 backstep i-frames invalidated the existance of most of them and even then, unless they had a very useful gimmick to them, like fugs, they could never stand against katanas.
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>>160858069
I think dsg is full of loud terrible players and a few silent good ones
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>>160858202
yer nan
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>>160858202
worked for the church
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>>160858302
owned
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anyone has started working on a weapon tier image similar to the one made for dark souls II?
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How the fuck do i filter that massive irrelevant garbage shitstain fag on a mobile phone?

Ill go through the trouble just for him
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>>160858302
What the fuck I did not allow you to post me in a webm.
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>>160858069
I made the Discord so I could kill FCs
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>>160858514
t. Jojo
>>
does anyone mind dropping me a +0 regular flame
I kinda want to make a SL60 pyro invasion build
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>>160858287
>terrible players frequently post
>good players frequently lurk
>most of /dsg/ posts have been shitposting
>shitposters rather shitpost and whine on /dsg/ more than they play
Pretty accurate. ;^)
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>DS1 meta
>backflipping backstabbing faggots with katanas, masks, no pants on and giant rock chestpieces

>DS2 meta
>faggots in actual clown attire doing weird dances wielding two completely unrelated weapons most of the time

>DS3 meta
>just a normal dude with a normal sword because those normal swords are ridiculously OP

Something was lost in DS3
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What the hell is Solaire wearing on his shoulders? Leaves?
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So wait, now they're going to update it so shitters can have phantoms gank Vilhelm for them? Fucking why? Vilhelm invasions are one of the few fun things you can pull to even the odds as an invader.
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>>160858448
REEEEEEEEEE
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>>160859021
Ridiculous armor pieces? Gimmick weapons? If you're talking about /fa/ exclusively, you could say poop pants is the new armor that can be ridiculed.
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>>160859261
Which one is poop pants? Fallen knight?

And no, I mostly mean the general style of meta players. In previous souls games they were always really ridiculous looking, like something you would not see in an actual soldier or knight, ever. In DS3, it seems like there's nothing terribly ridiculous like that anymore.
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>>160857365
Quality is ineffective at low levels compared to investing in a single stat and using the rest of your points for hp, vit and end desu.
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>>160859373
The turbometa Sunset + Dragonslayer armor looks pretty fucking stupid
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>>160859443
I am exclusively an invader and have never seen this set. Explain and why is it turbometa?
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>>160859401
Quality is the only build worth doing at level 80.
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>>160859443
I've never see nthat

which pieces do they combine?
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>>160859617
It just has the most efficient defense per weight or something
Damage reduction from armor is such a meme in DS3 that almost no one cares enough to do it, but it shows up every once in a while

>>160859650
Sunset hat, Ornstein chest, Morne hands and I don't remember pants
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>>160859628
No.

But I play level 60 anyway.
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>>160859739
>mixing gold, brass, and fucking stone black

Disgusting
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>>160857945

I've been doing it with near-constant invasions at SL25 +3, considering moving up to SL30 +3 though or potentially SL35 +3 or 4, not sure yet. SL25 +3 definitely works extremely well though. I've seen some streamers doing SL35 +4 though so idk. Probably going to make a backup save and try out each and see how frequently I get invasions.

Also see: >>160839481 I use a Raw RHH +3 mostly, started to dual wield it with an offhand raw astora SS though. I don't really bother with parrying anyways. Still I mean where would you see fun like pic related with meta ganker shitters? I never even thought of this before.
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Is the DLC even worth buying? I heard its 2 hours long
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>>160860040
It's 2 hours long if you rush everything, only enter the zone on a single character, don't pick up any of the equipment, never unlock the arena, and never fight anyone using DLC weapons
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>>160858696
anyone
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>>160860169
Can't you just go get cornyx?

Booting my N64
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>>160860440
I want a second one for shenanigans
PC
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>>160858287

>a few silent good ones
Me, t b h
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When 2handing a weapon does it make any difference at all if it's equipped in your left hand or right hand?
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>>160857940
i'd recommend this https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/119495
vh really needs high stamina though
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>>160858302
brutal
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>>160860954
You have to hold down your switch button if its in your left hand
But otherwise no, they perform the same
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>>160859968
Cool. I think I can use my weaponfu Lucerne just fine at that level range.
Gonna make a new character tonight.
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>>160848185

jund's last videos over a few weeks:

-meme Smough video
-golden ritual spear guide
-meme video of him dying
-heysel pick video
-meme video with a guy who ran away in the arena
-pickaxe guide
-nascar meme video
-dragonslayer spear guide
-meme video killing deacons of deep
-crow talons video
-lothrics holy sword guide
-millwood battleaxe guide

what part of any of this shit is "meta faggot"
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>>160860954
none whatsoever. same buttons, same damage
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>no comfy paladin cloak for paladin armor
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>>160861231
fuck off scott
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>>160861382

i just want 4chan to like me guise its all ive ever wanted
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>>160859968
You still get constant invasions all the way up to 40 +4, don't worry. That also brings you high enough to poke around in both the Keep and Cathedral for when you want a change of pace.

>20 +2 high wall
>30 +3 cruci woods
>40 +4 cathedral/keep
>50 +5 catacombs/irithyll
>60 +6 anor londo/irithyll dungeon/profaned capital
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>>160861054
Thanks. I had fun playing a versatile utility character (spear/axe/sword/bow/shield with bombs and knives) at around sl 50 so hopefully that would be a thing again.
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>>160861320
That looks better than half the shit we got in these games.
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>>160861231
Every guide he makes suddently makes that weapon be spammed a lot for the next few days.
No longer are people going after their own niche stuff and finding out what works, everyone sticks to what they know.
I had never seen anything use spear before because he and I suppose other popular people, just dictate whatever will appear in the game. If he stopped making videos today, the game would be all the better off.
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>>160861320
Is that the real leeroy concept art? Fucking hell, why did they scrap this?
I mean, I love leeroy's armor, but this is even better. they both should've been in the game
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>ftw to intellegnet too pvp
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>>160861320
Right helmet looks like Exdeath
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>>160861940

i mean...if i see a lot of heysel picks and golden ritual spears im okay with that? wtf is this retard logic
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>Stone Greatshield is in the game
>no Stone Greatsword with TWoP weapon skill
>no TWoP miracle either

But why. Even DaS2 added TWoP back in DLC.
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>>160862415
Because people like him are also the reason we had carthus be discovered so fast.
Without him, you'd see more of those two weapons, not because some faggot youtuber made a video on them, but because people would eventually try those weapons and some would like them
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>>160862374
If we get a reworked Heavy Knight set (like we got Vilhelm's set as a rework of Burial Knight) in DLC2, I'm totally making some sort of Exdeath build.
Thanks for the inspiration. Now I need to start planning stuff like weapons and spells.
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>>160862781
I hate scott, but let's be honest- current CCS users would just use other top tier weapons if they didn't know about CCS
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>>160862781

> be jund, upload golden ritual spear and heysel pick videos

> people copy jund too much

> without him, you'd see more golden ritual spear and heysel pick

> i actually have autism
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>>160862579
2 year dev cycle
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>>160862868
Is that set still obtainable through CE? or is it a ban?
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>>160861940
>No longer are people going after their own niche stuff
They didn't in the first place
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>>160862054
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>>160852540
Why? Did it trigger your latent repressed homosexual desires?
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>>160862868
Good luck anon

FEEL THE VOID
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Do aux effects like bleed still work while using the weapon with insufficient stats? In Dark Souls 3 that is.
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>>160808297
Greatswords are the perfect swords

>Big, but not too big
>Every single one has a hella good moveset
>Best idle pose with blade resting on shoulder
>Once your one hand breaks poise, your pvp becomes absolutely godlike
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>>160863128
Pretty sure they stripped all of the unused content out of the game files. Burial Knight was repurposed as Vilhelm's set, for example.
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>win 95% of duels
>cannot win a single invasion

IM worthless shit
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>>160863478
What about invasions vs a lone host?

What's your build and weapon?
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>>160863705
I was using a quality builds with a bunch of sneak rings. I cant punish a heal to save my life and then i get backstabbed from a stationary opponent after hitting him 8 times with a caestus. It doesnt fucking matter something is always going to go horribly wrong for me despite landing more than double the hits with similar wepaons cause lol my double estus and 30% more hp kill me god
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>>160858287

Makes sense. Only time I make posts really is to either help out people with questions they have or to post webms I made of my invasions, otherwise I just lurk.

Also the main problem with the game is differentiating between good and terrible players. You can be a terrible player and still kill a ton of people with a carthus curved sword or follower sabre, for example, just because of how powerful it is on its own through sheer brute force (good damage, good reach, good AoE, fast as fuck, incredibly good running R1, amazing for roll catching, also bleed 'cause why the fuck not throw that in there or insane guardbreaking WA for sabre)
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>>160846259
>o when I briefly checked in here
Not him but c'mon anon. Stop lying. You've been here since DaS1 days as well.
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>>160863885
If you're winning 95% of duels I assume how know basic things like rollcatching, setup parries and various punishes.

You're probably just using a shitty weapon or something. You need to use something highly damaging that can one-shot phantoms otherwise you're gonna have a bad time bro.
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>>160863920
>You can be a terrible player and still kill a ton of other terrible players with a carthus curved sword or follower sabre, for example

FTFY
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>>160861231
>what part of any of this shit is "meta faggot"

He's still a meta faggot, it's just that he's running out of ideas for videos so he's doing whatever he can so he doesn't lose his audience now. Not to mention for the past month he hasn't even been playing souls on stream, just pokemon and shit. Before that he was just spamming black serpent, chaos bed vestiges, fire surge and black flame.

Which means all of those "meme" videos were just cherry picked compilations, anyone can do that. Guarantee you if he was in a real competition and trying to win, out would come the CCS.
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>>160864427
Why would you not unzip CCS or similar in a real competition? You need to use the best tools
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>>160864156
roll catch barely fucking works
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>>160864318
>You can be a terrible player and still kill a ton of other terrible players with a carthus curved sword or follower sabre, for example. Note that at least 4 out of 5 players are in the "terrible" category

FTFY
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>>160863128
They're not real items, you have to swap assets of something else
Meaning it doesn't work online
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>>160864427
>Guarantee you if he was in a real competition and trying to win, out would come the CCS.

I mean, I hate Scott as much as the next guy but you can't blame him for that. If you're entering a tournament against skilled players with meta weapons you won't stand a chance if you rock up with your cute cosplay and meme weapon.
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>>160864537
It does if you time it correctly. A smart player can avoid it of course.

>>160864551
Just pointing out the idiocy of people who blame all their losses on their opponents' weapon instead of trying to figure out where they fucked up.
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>>160862868
Vilhelm's >>>>>>>> Burial Knight
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>>160854573
>PCFCBF

Can anyone tell this new fag what this means?
PC fight club ??
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>>160865109

Best Friends.
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>>160865109
Brotherly Friendship
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All right, boys. What's the STRONGEST build to STEAMROLL Dark Souls 3? I want to make it by bitch, fuck it in the ass, and leave it dead in a ditch. Shield not required. No PvP required.
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>>160864774
right sure Ill continue every so slightly delaying my swings just to miss some more cause rolls have a fuck ton of I frames and cost no stamina.
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>>160861958
>why did they scrap this? No Cloth physics
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>>160864941
they are both lanklets but vilhelm's helm is also ridiculously small on top, even by dark souls standards
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>>160865226
Just go watch a speedrun
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>>160865226
Probably a straightsword of some sort. But you sound like a shitter so...
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>>160856926
SL40 +6
Go into catacombs. :^)
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>>160865294
Okay then keep being bad instead of trying to improve. Plenty of people win invasions. I win the majority of mine. If you're constantly losing you're doing something wrong.
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>>160865226
refined darksword
>>160865326
>But you sound like a shitter so...
so a straightsword will be perfect for him. i hope you're not implying ss takes any kind of skill to use
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>>160865226
Warden Twinblades with Carthus Rouge.
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Do we have the poise numbers of ultras after the latest patch changed them?

I need to figure out breakpoints again.
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>>160865447
id improve my luck but I dont know how.
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>>160865451
No I was implying that a shitter won't steamroll anything even with SS R1 spam.

If you want to steamroll the game just summon 2 phantoms at the start of every level.
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>>160865589
>luck
If you're losing 100% of the time it's time to accept the fact that you're probably just bad anon. Luck can only take you so far.
>>
at least i win most fcs
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>>160865917
>Winning
>In MY FCs
Youre getting cursed
>>
Anyone feel like FCing? Demon bridge, PC FC, pass dsg as always, signs at the top of the stairs
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>>160866293
>Demon bridge

The what now
>>
>>160866403
Stray Demon you mememan
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>>160866403
Stray demon bridge
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>>160865162
>>160865212
Gay.

I could host FC since I got a fgt at Sl6 but he has a +6/+4 weapon and my net is shit .
>>
>>160866293

It's too late.
>>
>>160866470
>everyone scaled to fuck
N O
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>>160866403
Farron Keep. Climb the ladder, place with the big fat demon bitch. Above the Watchdog covenant bonfire. You know the place.
>>
What's the best place to get summoned in DaS2 with 900k SM?
I fucking hate covenant reward system. Completely gets fucked once the game dies.
>>
>>160866293
I'm down
>>
>>160866293
We need more people
>>
No furfags in this FC
>>
fists have more range than r2 sword pokes
1 handed running attacks with halberds have poise now or god just hates me
>>
>>160866293
>summoning Vincent
Sure sign of FC quality
>>
What's a good build for beginner players? I feel like after I've got to Farron Keep/Cathedral I'm really lacking damage.
>>
>>160867471
Straight Sword
>>
>>160867532
I'm using the Irithyll Straight Sword, is there a better one I can get?
>>
>>160867770
Literally anything that isn't that
Just buy the Longsword from the handmaiden if that's all you have
>>
>>160867860
Oh fuck, I thought it was good.

I'll try something else.
>>
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/119526

I want to do a CGS build, is this okay? How much would I die.
>>
>>160868020
>CGS
A lot.
>>
are the wolves infinite
>>
>>160867471
>build
A build isn't a single weapon, a build is character stats,gear and attuned spells at a specific sl.

But good weapons available at that point would be a heavy battleaxe/sharp uchikatana depending if you go strength or dex.
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>>160868135
Nope
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>>160868135
Yes. Everytime they howl, more spawn.
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>>160868209
oh it just seems that way after killing 15 of them and the howling not stopping
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>>160868274
You can't hide from the wolf *growl*
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At what point are you supposed to fight sif in DaS ? I fought him at soul level 54 and it was a complete fucking pushover, I think he hit me once and it didn't take very long.

It didn't help that he limped towards the end, made me feel a bit bad considering how easy I beat him
>>
Why do I see so many builds for DS2 with little to no VIT? Is equipment load not worth it?
>>
>>160868537
sl1 or bust
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>>160868537
but you don't have to fight him
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>>160868570
Elemental defense hag for clothes + a body buff is all the defense you ever need.
Poise is useless and armor is a meme.
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>>160868537
I usually go there after killing the butterfly and hydra.
Killing Stray Demon gives me 20k souls which I use to buy the crest. Go kill hydra. Then go kill Sif. Sl25
You can also try it after Queelag at sl50
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>>160868570
flynn ring is op on das2
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>>160868661
>covenant of artorias
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>>160868570
flynn's ring is powerful for no VIT builds

once you get to a nice high level though it's no longer necessary and VIT + heavy gear becomes great
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Keep putting down your sign, I can't seem to get to summon you, Claire
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>had 5 people shut down their game/console on me during invasions

Holy shit, how pathetic do you have to be to do such a thing? Is there anything that more clearly says ''I am the lowest of the low, I have no confidence to fight 1 invader in this game that is completely catered to me, the host. I am so scared please don't hurt me''
>>
>>160868537
You're supposed to clear the upper new londo and then search for artorias, find his grave and fight sif so I imagine right after anor londo, at 50 or so. But you can fight him as a first boss (after ass demon of course) so I think he's balanced for lower levels more. Also this >>160868605
>>160868661
You do if you want to finish the game
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>>160868998
Maybe they didn't want to fight YOU, you know?
Try being less of a tryhard fag?
>>
make a new thread you lazy bastards
>>
>>160868537
At any point between reaching Lordran and fighting the 4 Kings,really. Sif can become your first boss after the tutorial.

Sif is very easy to people who know how the fight's supposed to go but if you don't know to hug his nutsack and roll INTO his swings, he can be a pain in the ass because that sword hits hard.

Plus, if you have too much poise, he can do that double sweeping attack, hit you once, stagger you and have the second swipe kill you instead of getting knocked on your ass on the first swing and then being whiffed by the other.
>>
>>160868947
>>160868802
>>160868735
thanks lads.
think i'm gonna reset and try no vit.
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>>160868967
>Could not summon dark spirit
>Guest is unable to join session
well that's a new one
maybe I should go kill abyss watchers
>>
>>160869205
Just restart your game. Sometimes it bugs out if one summon fails and will keep failing until you do. I've had that happen before/
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>>160869205
I haven't seen this one since last patch. I get it when trying to invade as well.

I'll keep trying if you keep putting the sign but can't promise it'll work
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>>160869098
Well shit, I haven't really done too much exploring of alternate options, I might have to give sif a go at a lower level on my 2nd playthrough if I do one
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>>160869256
that worked, thanks
>>
How do we end /dsg/?
>>
Why is it the case that sometimes when I trade with someone, he recovers earlier and can still hit me while I'm stunned?

Like, I'd hit someone with an extremely fast weapon, such as a dagger R1, and I'd trade with someone doing a curved sword R1. We both get stunned, I mash R1 because I know I have the faster weapon, but still he gets his 2nd R1 off?

What kind of bullshit is that?
>>
Host here, going to restart my game then give it a last try if you three are still up for it
>>
>>160869512
Some weapons stagger for such a small amount of time that if you trade with someone the amount of time you stagger them is roughly the same as the recovery of their R1 would have been.

Curved Swords are notorious for this, because their R1 cancel window is late but their R1 startup is fast, meaning they can often truecombo if they trade with a low-stagger R1 or running attack.

Most non-curved sword weapons won't do this because they rely on cancel-frames to combo in the first place. CS are so fast that they only require negligible cancel-windows, and thus are affected the least by stagger in trades.
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Sleep well... /DSG/!
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Maybe the warning flags are affecting the potential summons in the FC?
>>
It seems my internet is shit today. ANyone else want to try their luck and try to get connected to the FC?
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>>160870368
No.
What if I don't want to sleep?
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Where the new thread at?
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>>160870376
>>160870376
>>160870376

Fresh from the oven
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>>160870407
Warning flags?
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>>160870407
I'm hosting and have no flags. Should I try in another area?
>>
>>160870535
When you cheat and you get the "caution stop doing this or we will fuck you up" message before the main menu.

>>160870545
The other players I meant. Didn't try in this FC, but I'm getting a lot of those error to summon and connect after getting hit with the warning.
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>>160870368
Good night, you fat cunt
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