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>why do people act like dogs in this? what is the purpose of murder for no reason?; edition.

Permalink: http://orph.link/eog

>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.

>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then all the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy
Focus Group Logs: https://focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/

Now:
>ASCENSION DEPLOYED http://updates.eveonline.com/date/2016-11-15/
>EVE IS NOW F2P GOY


Future:
>Nov 22: Rewards, Gnosis, new destroyer etc.
>Nov 25: Eve Down Under
>Nov ??: http://updates.eveonline.com/coming/fall/ click through for devblog links on F2P and LINKS, plus teasers for rorqual reworks, industry structures, visual updates AND also free stuff, plus a new ship


Past:
>Sep 27: Coronation of Catiz I
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Sep 12: CSM 11 first summit
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 26: AT prizes announced (blood raider variations)
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 19: Broski joins then kills QFC
>Jul 18: Billboards submissions open
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, overlay vectors, new implants, drugs legal, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion now ECM immune, mass fitting
>Jun 23: RIP SP dailies
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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hi
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>hauling
>people wanting more hauled than is possible by any ship with any tank
can you break it up into two trips? I haven't been able to figure it out

>fit 200m of shit into my iterus to sell at a higher price
>code blows me up for the first time
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>Amarr
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>>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
Trial is gone, btw.
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>>160785431
the statement remains
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I am new, playing less than a week. my friend gave me a fit for Heron for exploring. three times in two days I have been murdered in wh for nothing...fit is less than 1mil of worth, didnt have and loot.

why do people act like dogs in this? what is the purpose of murder for no reason? for money or politics I do not mind. I do not even mind dying, so much as being interrupted in exploring. it is like i have to stop playing being someone else is bored and wants to wave dicks.


maybe different question

how not to be cuckolded when exploring? people say 'cloak', but I cannot fit. not enough power. plus there is other ways?
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>/vg/'s official corp is literal meme name.
This is why you have no friends anons
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>>160785481
Whew.
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If someone leaves their ship in high sec will you still get concorded for blowing it up?
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>>160785648
no, welcome to cuck
use dscan like a paranoid lunatic, but even then, having no cloak is too punishing.

Buy 1 month of the game to give yourself a nice kickstarter, it will make it a ton easier on your exploring and your isk income will also increase with faster skill training into exploring.


chances are you will not be able to plex yourself just from exploring unless you know what you're doing or get really, really lucky.
But it seems you don't have neither.
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>>160785748
go safety yellow and try it I guess
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>>160785648
>act like dogs

Because they want to join Pupper.
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>yellow
FAGGGG
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>>160785356
Can't break apart player hauling contracts. If it's an npc corp hauling mission, you can.

>code blows me up
It's math anon. Figure the cost in ships to destroy yours within Concord's response time at the lowest sec of your trip. Then look at the value of what you're hauling. If the math adds up, the chance of someone pulling the trigger on you shoots way up. Don't be greedy, take more trips with less value.
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>>160785748
yes
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>>160786002
>allowing code to kill you
just scout and have a web alt fag
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>>160785895
i would not give CCP money. i do not like game so far. i understand the bloodthirsty gameplay - yes guard your asteroids and charge people to mine them, that makes sense.

too many people act like nigger or russian. very rude and hostile for no reason except you are not them or with their group. i do not understand this mindset. game about space exploration and building and all they want to do is tear everything down. typical russ bad brain.
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>literally getting kicked from snuff box
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>>160786649
>game about space exploration and building and all they want to do is tear everything down. typical russ bad brain.
>says increasingly nervous libcuck after taking a trip to africa
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What are the restrictions on F2P??
Surely there's something.
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HOW DO WE FIX AMARR T1 SHIPS
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>OP pastebin still has shit about buddy invites and trials
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>>160786897
everything
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>>160786892
>libcuck

no, I am MAGA. maybe god-emperor trump makes eve great again, too

russ is not as bad as nigger, but still pretty bad.
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>>160786917
Flame decals on the sides. Or maybe some god damn mid slots.
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>>160786917
Switch up the frig meta from 10k.
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>>160786917
there's nothing wrong with most of them
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>>160785648

I am a wormholer. We just do it for fun. We get paranoid when people are scanning down our systems and it also greens up the killboard.

It's nothing personal. Hell, we refund noobs' ships and chat them up if we kill them. We've recruited a few people that way.
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>>160787394
>extra mids
>everything now has ECM

o
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Does ccp do holiday PLEX sales ever? When would the next one be?
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>>160786917
Actual locking range on the Punisher.

Make the Tormentor a rocket ship.
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Fuck you.
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Anyone else actively get annoyed with all the nullsec drama? I don't even know who's who at this point.

Probably the reason I stayed out of nullsec in the first place is all the overinflated egos and 'lol so funny' in-humour.
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>>160787535
It's not extra mids if you're talking amarr t1, it''s adequate. It's barely adequate if you give em 1 more. Also stick your falcon alt up your ass, in his falcon.
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why did this go F2P? is it dying? why?
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>>160787936
Virtually no downside since you have to sub to get the full game.
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>>160787936
everything is dying all the time. stop with the memes
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Should I stock up on Gnosis before or after the giftapalooza
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>>160788186
>A large amount of a good is about to be injected into the market
>Hm, should I pay out the ass now or wait for the inevitable price crash tomorrow
Really, anon? You have to ask?
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>>160788186
Investing in gnosises has historically proven itself to be a bad idea.
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>>160788348

What? No it hasn't, you tosser.
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>>160787650
It's in space; it's already a rocket ship
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>>160788461
shut up I want to invest in gnossi and I don't need you encourage competition

sell me all your gnosticistics
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>>160787501
>our systems

i dont understand. you can claim system? how to know if it belongs to someone? maybe I am murdered for intruding
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>>160788762

I literally sold mine the week they first came out, lol.
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>>160788825

> murdered for intruding

Pretty much.

The only claim on a wormhole system is by force. We don't have a sovereignty system like nullsec fags do.
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>>160788825
The only systems that can be officially claimed are null-sec systems, but people will often set up player-owned stations or citadels in wormholes and live in them, claiming them as their own.
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Can anyone recommend a new player friendly, no drama mining corp?
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>I know, let's give this battlecruiser abnormally fast align time

why
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>>160788313
I imagine most are going to get blown up by bad brazilian pilots or locked away in storage so yeah
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>>160787723
>I don't even know who's who at this point.

It's always the same people just being shuffled around.
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>>160788646
>warp drive technology
>rocket fuel
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>>160788990
From my experience mining corps are shit. Go look for those public mining fleets. Most are pretty chill and active.
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>>160788990
Join Pupper, we're New Eden's number one mining, industry and PI corp :D
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>>160789085
Any idea how I can start finding a public fleet?
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>rocket tormentor

I vote for split weapons lasers and rockets, to make a path toward the missiley amarr ships, and give it more drones as well since amarr do drone ships too
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>>160789187

Find a likely mining system and open up your fleet finder window. Or ask around.
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>>160786897
You can't log into a second account at the same time as a free account. Your training speed is halved, and you only have a limited set of skills you can train, partially based on the race you picked at creation.
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>>160789018
It's not that fast.
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>>160787167
One would think you'd have a thicker skin given your views.
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>>160789471
aligns faster than a cruiser
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So I guess ransoming ships isn't a thing any more? Been away since '09. Lost two Ventures today in 0.4. Halted engines, shutdown modules and waited for a ransom message, they just popped me.
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>>160788348
>>160788461

I've been sitting on three, plus a 5run bpc, for years.

They haven't gone much above 60mil at any point to my knowledge.
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>>160789701
people don't bother because nobody ever paid and there was a shitload of liars out there that kill you afterwards anyway, and more people are interested in muh killboards, so it all just disappeared
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>>160789701

No one's going to ransom a ship worth less than half a mil.
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>>160789701
As is always the case, faggots ruined it. Took ransoms, popped people after, people stopped paying.
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>>160789591
what does he mean?
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>>160789591
pls

Trump is the biggest baby on Earth.

http://imgur.com/gallery/YD9G5
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god its been ages since i logged into this game

Does All-Out still exist?
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>>160788825
>i dont understand. you can claim system?

Here's how it works:
Can they, and do they, kill everyone who they don't want inside "their" territory?

Then they fucking own it.
Up until some other faggot comes along and kills them and takes over.

Welcome to how the real world works.
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BANJO ARE YOU ALIVE YET
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>>160789851
looks more like trump fell for the sensationalist news headlines rather than looking into what actually happened

Rule 1: The media always lies to you
Rule 2: Don't believe a word the media says
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>>160789874
>real world
>video game

'no'
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>>160789815
>>160789786
>>160789802
Thats too bad. Just a couple of full loads of kernite more than covered the damages, but I'd have happily paid a couples loads worth ransom or permit to avoid the hassle.
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>>160790143

Personally, I wouldn't mine out in lowsec to begin with.
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>>160789851
>being played by a politician

do you even understand how cucked out you are
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>>160790185
This. The ore isn't that much more valuable. You'd probably come out ahead mining Plag in a 0.7 than Kernite in a 0.4, just due to the lower risk of getting ganked.
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>>160786963
>still has shit about buddy invites
It actually doesn't, but it should You get 250,000 SP if invited.
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>>160790296

Yep. Either do that or have some risky fun and go gas harvesting in J-space.
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>>160790143
not sure if this is you, but very often miners think they'll be safer in isolated pockets of lowsec, rather than in the main big expanses, but in all of these isolated pockets there's always autistic gays out to kill newbro ventures
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how do I find ded complexes?
scanning around in my cynabal, have only found gurista babby sites
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Best semi afk way to make isk?
I play at work on the night shift but I am busy some times (nurse) and obviously can't be at the keyboard all the time. I'm Minmatar.

I'm Omega newbie looking for an EVE career.
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>>160790551
you keep doing that until you find them. if there's other players running them you will not find them easily in that area

assuming you are using a probe launcher and looking for cosmic signatures and not just looking at cosmic anomalies
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Guys is there a limit of the invitation link? I think it was limited to 10 a month before, has it changed?
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>>160789857
Ζει kαι βασιλεύει, kαι τον kόσμο kυριεύει!
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>>160790601
No one said anything about intelligence, just that he was thin-skinned.
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>>160786649
>>160786892
>>160787167
>>160789591
>>160789851
>>160790601
>>160790742
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>>160790739
>He lives and reigns and conquers the world!

So did the alliance take off?
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>>160790143
If you join a newbro corp in null, they have minerbros along with fleet boosts. And it is much safer than autists in highsec that cares about their "loot fairies", "muh gate camps"and zkillboard profile.

Check local channel always, fuck off if there is yellow flash and check everyone's corp and standings.

and never go to rancer.
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Does drug gas still do damage?

If so, what type of damage does it do?
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>>160790069
You're a retard

>>160790584
station trading

Bonus: Looks like you're actually doing work because you have a market window and excel spreadsheets open.
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>>160791008
https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99005761/corpstats/
Not really, but you have to pay it your respects.
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>>160791205
>never go to rancer
I could not for the life of me remember the answer to the question of which gate is camped right now.
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>>160785648
Post killmail
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>>160789848
Someone got shot because they literally stepped on someone's front yard without their permission, then whined about being shot without warning. Then they claimed to be MAGA. Do I have to connect the dots?
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>try to solo pvp instead of just fleet monkeying
>make 2 jumps and engage a dessie and frig
>this 3 person engagement escalated into about a 30 man fight with reinforcements on both sides showing up

I guess i'm not allowed to leave to try and solo shit.
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>>160791512
Has anything meaningful happened with the alliance? Sov? A second wormhole?
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>>160792290
more EVE ancap memes please.
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>>160793615
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>>160772489
>>160773980
>petition with an alt
>tell them your main's char name is super offensive in some obscure language and violates EULA
>get renamed to caldari citizen 23234234
>petition again to choose a new name
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>>160793747
last eve one from the /pol/ thread

this game really is made for it
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Guys my keyboard broke so how do I play this with a controller?
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>>160794146
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>>160794146
you mean joystick
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>>160794247
Don't got one. The only other thing I have is a wheel
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>>160794417
use the wheel
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When you take a skill of the que, does it delete all progress since you never completed it?
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>>160789786
>>160789701
>2005
>decide you want to be a REAL pirate and be better than Ginger Magician
>make a living ransoming people in lowsec and npc null
>get rejected by cool kid pirate corps because killboard stats look bad
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>>160794575
No it keeps everything
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What does the image of dog represent?
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>>160794575
No, when you resume it, it will go back to where you left off.
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>>160794652
>>160794725
ty
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>>160794719
It's a recruitment image for Pupper.
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wew made it out of wh with 4.5m of goods. My first haul.
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>>160794719 c >>160767249
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>>160794945
Good job, anon.
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>>160794945

Congrats, dude. I hope your hauls get better and better.
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>stop playing a bit over a year ago
>just now learn that Amarr have new Empress
>and game went f2p

In all seriousness, is this a good time to come back?

Over the last year I only kept hearing how it's getting worse and player numbers are going down.
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>>160795071
>>160795165
thanks anons, here's what I snatched. (4.1, a little off lol). I went to Jita and sold it at Immediate; was that wise?
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>>160795323
We hit 50k people last night.

Make of that what you will.
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Where do I go when I want to find pvp? I've never soloed before and am terrible at navigating the map.
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>>160795391

Yeah, don't clutter up your sell orders for sums like that. That's pretty cheap stuff, too. With a little luck you can be pulling in 5x that much off a single site.
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>>160795323
It's been getting better (still not good) and player number are (artificially) spiking upwards.
Not sure if it's worth coming back, but it's definitely the best time to do it.
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>>160795391
It's probably wise, yes. By the time you spend setting up sell orders you can find even more.
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>>160795391
Always check view market details to make sure you're not immediately selling something for 1/10th of what its actually worth
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nigga fuck off. I need idiots like him to dump stuff on my cheap buy orders
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>>160795323
it mantains 20k players lowest yesterday (not counting downtime periods).


It is getting better, strat ops weaponized the alpha clones with cheap destroyers for people who want to directly join "nullsec wars". Some of them even contributed kills of multiple ships that is worth more than the entire alpha clone fleet ships combined.

People are going to stay, but I guess if you liked industry or mining, tough luck since most of them are locked away. Hauling, exploration is still profitable competitively with omegas.
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>>160795808
>being too poor to pay a living wage
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>>160795898

How expensive is plex now?
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>>160791350
the kind you can comfortably passive tank in a prospect with a mse and like 1-2 spr
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>>160796275
1.2bil
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>>160796275
1.1 mil atm, 4 days ago it was 1.5 mil due to scalpers to gain profit before alpha clone update. I guess most of the Alpha clones already bought subs without even buying the plexes.
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>>160796004
uwot
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>>160796362
>>160796437

So it didn't get more expensive in over a year? Strange.
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Is DREDD Alliance dreddit?
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>>160795323
>decide to check out EVE
>everyone in NPC corp is some alt bragging about their mains in some bigname nullsec alliance and their trillions of isk
>mine and run some missions
>get ganked mining
>try to haul loot to Jita
>CODE blows up my hauler
>decide to try exploration because missions are boring
>no sites anywhere in high sec
>make a fraction of what i could have made mining exploring in wormholes and lowsec
>apparently every 10 year old player in this game has nothing better to do than to chase my heron for hours
>join nullsec pvp corp spamming local
>spend 5 hours just warping around listening to some autist fleet commander
>explode instantly when you finally run into enemies
>wake up in Kisogo
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>>160795503
Search for faction warfare systems, and just jump in systems around them. If can't find anything, jump to FW complexes or whatever they called and wait.
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>>160796880
I just joined Brave and mine away while literal hordes of players protect me
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>>160796880
>>join nullsec pvp corp spamming local
Here's your problem.
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>>160796989
Are you guys still alright? Brave always undocked and offered fights when we came knocking.
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>Caldari standing is 1.91 (Up from 0.81 due to Connections 3)

Connections says it gives +4% effective standing per level, so how is it more than doubling my effective standing?
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I can only find 10 month+ old reddit threads so I'm going to ask here.

What is the support ticket response time like now? Put mine in 2 days ago and I don't know if I'll be waiting another hour or another month
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>>160797175
Definitely, if there's frenemies around there's a good chance there'll be a fight. Recent influx of newbros means there's a million tackle atrons flying around to help the standing fleet.
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>>160797253
Mostly depends what its about.

Item reimbursement doesn't take nearly along as most account related shit.
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>>160796880
>join nullsec pvp corp spamming local
>spend 5 hours just warping around listening to some autist fleet commander

Shit corp = shit game experience

Go here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=265
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>>160797357

Well shit
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>tfw I bought a Garmur just to fly around in it and look at it

What's the point of this ship
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>>160796723
it dipped to under 1bil about 6 months ago
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>>160797896
really really really really expensive tackle
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>>160797896
Give gallente something with rockets, I guess. I don't understand why.
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>>160797896
Dump 600M on it and go kill rifters, or lowsec tackle if you actually can fly it

>>160798089
>gallente
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>>160797320
Maybe I should just join brave
seems like all the wormhole or null gangs are moderately retarded, or several years old and practically dead.

I joined a wormhole focused corp today and their recruitment message says go to x website for WH coordinates and guides, and all the info is outdated. They even have an outdated link to evemon.

Why is the corpfinder tool so bad
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>>160798148
I jsut got back, had to autolink it. I swear that's what it said, maybe I should go to sleep.
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>>160797235
4% total towards 10.0

so 4%*3 = 12% is 1.2 bonus standing
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>resub having been NEET for quite a while, lot of time on my hands
>join corp
>literally the next day I get new work
>issues with flatmates, decide with gf that we will move out
>between life/work I've logged in maybe 5 times in the last 3 months
>still in the corp
>haven't spoken to them since I joined

Should I say something or just leave?
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>>160798383
Nice spy cover story, comrade
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>>160798465

Surely spying would require me going online more often?
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>>160798463
So I quit last November and just picked the game up again, what the fuck is going on with the Drifters? Last I remember they were flying around Jove towers and DDing people.

That new tutorial is dank as shit, Drifter Hive was an amazing area
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>>160798086
Ridiculously expensive for a tackle according to the fits I can see

>>160798185
It can be hard to fit in with Brave but they're friendly and want to help, and they're pretty damn active. As far as my experience with roaming fleets go it's pretty boring at times but that's me not liking PvP.
Really besides not liking PvP I can only speak fondly of Brave so far, but I'm also pretty new.

Corpfinder is just bad because it's bad I guess.
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>>160798661
Literally nothing happened with the story except the Coronation. CCp is now just fucking and unfucking the game with technical changes.

>>160798792
You don't really need all the memes on the fit. But faction points are dank because the range scales ridiculously with her bonuses
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>>160798343

Oh gotcha. Thanks m8.
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>>160798919
If only I had enough skillpoints to use all of that, feels bad being at only 3 mil or so
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>haven't played for 4 years
>buy plex for bomber alt to make Isk for more plex
>find out bombers can't run FW missions anymore
>only 2b isk left
I've got one guy who can fly Mach and Tengu and another alt that can fly Legion/Proteus. Which one should I plex and what's the best way to grind isk? Should I just run L4 missions?
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About to try and solo my first wormhole gas site... Wish me lucks?
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>>160799401
If that's what you want, focus like a lazer on it. Perfect frig skills don't take forever.
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What's the highest lvl missions alphas can do?
I just got my ass kicked in my thorax on a lvl 3 mission
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>>160799543
D scan every 5 seconds, anon. Good luck.

>>160799708
3s kind of want a BC. There are hauling missions that alphas should be able to do well in.
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>>160798792
Well you mentioned atrons which means I'll actually be able to fly with them when I have to penny pinch in the coming months.
Most of those corps I was talking all specialized in one faction for their gangs, mostly Minmatar Thrashers. If I go alpha and can't use the doctrine ships, then I'm shit out of luck.
I just want to fit a venture for gas mining ninjaing ;_; Or just do exploration in general.
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>>160799708
Probably lvl3 in a Gnosis or VNI. There might be some stuff you can do in a group that pays better, Vanguard Incursions for example.
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>>160799708

Caldari is a more extreme version of the US. Minmatar would be north Africans that were enslaved by Arabs and fought back effectively, which to my knowledge has never happened.
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>>160799834
Oh yeah they've got nothing against you flying whatever you like, or even frigates. Shit they'll throw ships at you just so you have something to fly.
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>be me
>started EVE 3 days ago
>transporting stuff from my old home base to new
>takes 48 jumps there and back
>jump back to old base to get Sigil
>on my way I decide to message some random guy named Charlie Pringlepants in Local chat
>we talk for a good 15 minutes
>I decide to be nice and send him a small gift of 20,000 ISK just to be nice
>he gives it back with an extra 30,000 and tells me I need it
>we say our goodbyes and part ways
>finally make it to old base
>grab Sigil and jump back
>around 40 jumps in I get ambushed by pirates
>lose ship and around 750,000 worth of goods
>pretty pissed off because I wait an hour
>then I get a notification
>"+50,000,000 ISK"
>lolwut.jpeg
>"Charlie Pringlepants deposited cash into anon's account"
>brbimfuckingcrying.psd


Morale of the story: always be nice to randoms

Charlie if you're in here thanks for the gift bro <3
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I have a Corax with seven missile launchers, which is crazy fun. But blowing up Pithis is boring. Where should I go from here? I'm mostly looking for something fun and not horrendously dangerous...letting off steam and relaxing after getting dank loot exploring.
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>>160800751
Fuck put "to be nice" twice
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>>160800751

No one has ever been nice to me in EVE
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wow...pupper is good now?

i'm going to apply!
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>>160799491
Plex the Mach and run incursions.

~150mil an hour for easy shit.
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>>160801321
Closest thing I've had to someone being nice to me is someone reimbursing my frigate when I started playing
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>>160800064
Minmatar ships are all Norse.

It seems like they take a few ethnicities and combine them, like French/USA or Japan/China
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>>160799543
So wow, warped out to get miner, came back, and the wormhole had collapsed. Dodged a big shiny bullet there.
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Newb Minmatar omega here, almost finished with all the different career dudes missions, wondering what ship/which way to make money.

Mining seems like a good low stress way, I just want a way to afk make isk, is mining the best way?

Also looking for a Corp that isn't pvpspergs.
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I have usually like ~5b on the market. Should I bother with raising standings with station faction?
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>>160802635
Mining gets incredibly boring
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>>160802203
You need to check out the wh wiki. You can tell how long a hole has left by its description. Do a little research and you can purposefully dodge those bullets.
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>>160802635
>I just want a way to afk make isk
Yeah, mining is fine for that.
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Hi, I want to get into the game (probably because of the ancap memes).
Are there any big differences between the races? Is there one that eog chooses mainly?
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>>160803123
I used to tell people to make multiple free trails and try each race and see what they liked. You can do the same thing now. I'm so out of date because I just got back but in the past Caldari was always known for being good with mission running or ratting pve. Thing is, every race has good hulls somewhere in the ship tree and none of them have good hulls everywhere. Just try em out and go with what you like.
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How 2 into mining?
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>>160803696
get rock laser
shoot rock
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>>160801321
This. I had to handle and deal with shit all by myself. Learned Rancer and Tama were bad the hard way.

Then I joined TEST and things got worse from there.
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>>160803696
Better question. How to into gas mining?
Tried that shit in high sec and the money was way worse than mining veldspar.
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>>160803874
What ship as Minmatar omega, where, what, etc.
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Oruze Cruise, All-Out, Tengoo, Pupper Corp when?
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Can you queue the same skill? Like Gay III followed by Gay IV
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>>160802635
You won't get far solo mining in an alpha.
I'm talking top mining alpha skills you might make enough money for PLEX in 3 months of nonstop afk mining.
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>>160804712
You gotta learn how to find shit out. Look in the market for minmatar frigs, destroyers and cruisers. Show info on all of the ships. The hull bonuses in the traits will tell you what it's for. Show info for a newb is like a baby stickign everything in their mouth, it's how you learn about the world.
That being said, Venture-mining barge is a good start.
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>>160804982
Yes, but if you are an alpha they're is limits.
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>>160804991
HE's omega though.
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>>160805125
With top tier skills in mining as a solo omega it might take you maybe 2 weeks of non stop mining to plex.

Reminder that "afk" in this game is a meme and even when mining on the lowest yield, biggest cargo barge you need to empty it the ore every 10 min or so.

Don't expect to actually be allowed to go afk for 1 hour and come back to 100mil isk in ore.
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>>160805123
You talking about the 24h limit, or are alphas unable to do the same skill back to back?
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>>160805434
The time limit.
As long as the requirements are met, you can train skills back to back.
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So I mine in a frig, jetcan, then bring my industrial ship to pick it up?

That sounds stupid and a good way to lose a lot of time and effort when someone scoops it up.

What skills do I need?
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>>160804837
Hopefully never for Pupper
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>>160805519
Okay, cool. Thanks my guy
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>be alpha
>be gallente
>want to do exploring as my main job
>imicus looks like a potato dildo with extra tumors
Send help
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>>160805792
Sucks to be you
It's also one of the shittiest T1 explorers.
Ironically, it's T2 version is one of the two best.
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>>160805534
Jetcan mining is for multiple people. If you don't want stuff scooped you can use secure cargo containers IF you remember to anchor them AND set a password, but you won't have 27.5k of volume.

>>160805792
Stay away from drones, okay. Just don't have anything to do with drones.
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>>160799708
Better version.
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>>160799708
use this one. Its more accurate.
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>>160806030
>>160806046
What the fuck is Jove
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>>160806134
Nothing you need to worry about, goy
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What security space can I comfortably afk mine in a decently tanked venture without fear of being killed by rats or gankers?
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>>160806134
I'm not a lorefag but like, they're advanced? Probably not like ancient aliens but I'd bet they were the first group of humans to get back into space after the dark ages following the EVE gate collapse. Jovian space is on the map but you can't get there, devs fuck around in it. I think that some new ships and modules they release are supposedly jovian tech. The gnosis may be one example of this.
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>>160800751
>>160801321
>>160801883
>Several months ago
>Be uber newbie and hear null exploration is a good way for newbies to make money
>Take my Heron and head into sovnull looking for relic/data sites
>One of the owner corp's members comes into local "Stealing sites, eh?"
>Have a long conversation regarding money making methods, my future plans for the game, etc.
>He invites me to his corp
>Have been making buttloads doing null exploration deep in our systems with no fear of being aggressed and having fun in PvP
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>>160806357
No rats above .7, unless I'm wrong and it's .8.
Gankers I simply can't tell ya, having just only come back. Jita will have them for sure. Base out of matari or deep gallente space and they may not be as much of an issue as around Jita and Amarr.
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>>160805898
imicus a best, kys
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It's relatively simple and straightforward concept:
There needs to be more to standard combat than utility management, distance and transversal. - Buffs and debuffs are the wrong approach.

Right now, what eve is doing correct in combat is in the strategic-level approach. It can definitely use improvement, (I would consider the current state to be in its infancy and actually not very good right now) but it's there. Fleets using tactical jump points, gatecamps, system blockades, and so on.

But look what happens once the strategic approach transfers into the tactical level: Massive blobs of ships. The fights turn into slugfests, the meta of the day is calling the right targets for alpha-strikes and making flight/fight decisions. It's not enough to keep combat interesting. In fact it's all downright fucking boring and nobody really wants to do it. You're lucky to get 2-3 kills per hour in Eve.

And what do you do at the tactical level when someone with the perfect fit against your ship jumps you?
You can't do anything. The fight was essentially decided at the ship fitting screen.
This all needs to change.
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Is caldari cruiser worth grabbing as alpha? I don't know if getting destroyer from 0 to 3 is a big investment or not.
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>>160806739
lelele hah hxdd ebin reddit pooost lol mang
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What the fuck is jump fatigue?
Why do shitty t1 industrials have this? Do they have jump drives now?
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>>160806809
Cruisers are a big step up from Frigates/Destroyers, especially the Caracal.
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>>160797253
I messed up a market order and added an extra 0, which cost me something like 200 million isk in taxes. This happened right around the time skill extractors were coming out; I filed a petition and promptly forgot about it.

1 week later a GM contacts me, apologizes for how long it took to get to my ticket, reimburses me the 200 million isk, AND adds 1 week to my account subscription.

Eve's customer service is pretty top notch, imo
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>>160806853
It's for bridging.
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>>160806134
>>160806359
They never had the dark like the other races had. When the initial colonists descended back to stone age after eve gate closed they were still on the way because their plan in new eden was to use generation ships. Then they basically had thousands of years of their own history with a bit of interactions with the other dead races and their own dark ages.
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BARK
BARK
BARK
BARK
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>>160807167
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>>160802203
>first trip into wormhole
>get some dank loot
>warp back to wormhole entrance
>it's gone
>don't know wtf to do
>spend the next 5 hours trying to get out of wormholes and back into real space before some guy in a stealth bomber ganks me
>he sends me a mail about delivering torpedoes or something
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>>160806873
Good to know, thanks.
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>>160807195
Assuming you're an alpha clone and don't have access to a cloak, here's some tips for surviving wormhole trips. The first thing you want to do when entering a wormhole, always, is bookmark the entrance so you can easily warp back and out. Next, pick a planet or moon from the right click menu and warp to/near it (I usually do 100k away just in case someone's there). While you're in warp on the way to it make a bookmark in empty space and, once you arrive to the planet/moon, warp to the bookmark you made. This will put you in a deadspace "safe spot" where the only way to get to you is to scan you down with combat probes. From there you can use D-scan to check for combat probes. If you see them on D-scan that likely means someone is hunting you down, so gtfo. If D-scan is clear you can scan down signatures with impunity. You're most vulnerable while doing sites so keep an eye on your overview for campers uncloaking and others scanning down you or the site.
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>>160805312
This is why you spend 15 attentive minutes in a wspace gas site and walk away with 20+ mil :)
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>>160807896
so keep an eye on your overview for campers uncloaking and on D-scan* for others scanning down you or the site. Once you're in a site others can use core probes to scan down the site and come at you, so watch for those in addition to combat probes.
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>>160807423
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Is mining in an industrial ship the most comfy shit ever?
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>>160809036
I usually take 'comfy' to mean "I'm not doing shit all, and this is boring as fuck"

Pretty sure mining fits that perfectly.

Maybe I'll try "getting comfy" with gas huffing soon.
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>>160809036
Yes.
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>>160809036
This is the best way to solo mine correct?
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>>160808096
Yes but not as safe as anon wants it to be.
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>>160809747
Yes as long as you fit your shit up with loads of armour plates.
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i'm new someone invite me to their guild ;_;
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>>160811053
sent :)
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>>160811053
Aight. Come meet me up in Rancer top belt.
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Dead game
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I'm a new alpha who's always wanted to play space trucker. I joked about eve being a spreadsheet simulator. A pot of coffee at four in the morning and it's no longer a joke.

With Gallente alpha's get access to specialized haulers with comparatively huge cargo bays compared to the general purpose industrials. Ore and minerals are few enough in number it's not terrible to just check a trade website and go from there. The planetary materials have 82 possible trade goods that can fit in your inventory. I made a auto-updating spreadsheet on what you can trade for a profit from one region to another, for any other alphas or subscribed space truckers who want to play space trucker I give this to you.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BoNX5hC0fzU1ycEnsRxdZlfpnVvl39kQQuqhqA14dKs/edit?usp=sharing

The API I found and used is shit, and wish it had more functions with routes and ability to the universe instead of only one region at a time. It tends to say "3000% return" because a region only has 1 unit of water for 1 isk instead of 30. so it needs double checking but can easily narrow from 84 objects to check on the market to ~5-10 on a good route.
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>>160813790
Neet
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>>160813790
Consider doing jobs with push or redfrog

check the haulers channel, people will post contracts there for you to fulfill - fastest way to get them outside of the freighter services

Some people, like rita, tip very generously on their contracts, especially if you're fast. You'll know who these people are because their contracts will get snapped up in the span of 5 seconds when they post them.

Ask questions about collateral and shit. Although the hauler channel doesn't usually have this problem, some contracts are faked by pirates interested in ganking you when you try to fulfill it, and those guys can tell you what to look for.
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>>160815101
>tipping haulers
Is this the new meme
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>scan down a data site
>cargo scan for the decent cans
>about to start hacking
>all the cans explode and the site despawns

What the fuck? It wasn't a ghost site or anything.
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>no nothing about the game but run incursions for isk to fuck about
>down to povvo tier again
>want to sell my incursion ship for a quick ~500m and go from there

I really, really want another way to make isk but I just don't know how and I feel like if I invest to experiment in something else I'm just gonna end up broke with no fallback
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Anyone interested in a pretty fucking autistic/retarded corp living in a C2 wormhole should message Bear Naskingar.

Stupid corp in a stupid alliance. We do anything because anything is profitable and fun.
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What the fuck is tethering and why does it happen when I undock from some station
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>>160816993
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Eve+Online+Tethering
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>>160816993
fjgehrga?????????????????
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>>160815769

> tips hauler
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>>160785118
Buddy gave me some isk and I got hooked on the auction house. This game is easy lol. Hopefully I can turn this bil into some real profit.
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>>160817795
XD
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>market pvp
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Any news or updates on how drug production is changing with the new stations?
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>>160817795
>auction house
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WHY DO PEOPLE BUY T2 CPU RIGS?? WHY?? WHAT POSSIBLE AUTISM SHITFIT NEEDS 300 FUCKING CALIBRATION
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will there ever be another epic arc
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>>160820562
Reading about the corp shit going on in null-sec is good enough senpai
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Do ppl still use damage controls?
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What does one need in order to get into solo FW?

Does one just... wander around contested areas until one finds an allied fleet to cling to?
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>>160821640
You find friendly militia members in shiny ships and gank them.
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>>160820736
Go on
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>>160802670
there are services out there that help you get standings with any faction you want, you can buy them as packages

something about fleeting up together with mission runners
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>>160822979
I don't mind running the missions myself because I can krab some LP by the side, but how much do the taxes decrease?
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>>160800751
>takes 48 jumps there and back
>needing multiple trips
Fuck that, make a contract.
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>>160802635
>Also looking for a Corp that isn't pvpspergs.
Ask Chribba to let you into Otherworld Enterprises.

It's a 1 man corp as a tax evasion thing, but the dude's got a Titan in high sec.
Shit's kitted out for mining, too.
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>>160806714
the probe is a straight upgrade to the imicus
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>>160806357
>rats
Bring combat drones.
>gankers
Stay out of low sec.
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>>160816189
exploration requires about 5mil investment and gets you 100mil+ returns

always a good fallback
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>>160816224
what wormhole system? I'm interested in joining a WH corp
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>>160823035
no idea off the top of my head, but you should be able to find a taxes:standing ratio somewhere online
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Can one turn a profit of any sort doing planetary interaction in 0.5 sec systems?
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>>160824062
Do you own the Planetary Customs Office?
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>>160824274
Nope.
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>>160806357
No one ganks ventures

t. currently afk jetcan mining in an ass-end system
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Pupper HQ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcyOSiaRz9E
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>>160824372
There is your answer.
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Should I go for 5ish Million for full skills for an Alpha account or just use it now.

t. 13 hours of running the tutorial
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>>160824648
Why stop at 5mil? Keep going 'til you have enough to cap an omega clone with some extra to sell so you can get a plex!

You can do it Autisman! I believe in you!
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>>160824934

Rough calculation tells me that would take over 3000 hours.

'no'
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Alphas please play amarr it is the best faction i promise you.
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>>160825154
Thats way better than i was expecting... It would only take a year doing it just 8 hours a day.
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>>160825302
Alpha here
What, is amarr not getting any new players or something
What am I missing on here
>>
So how do regular missions work exactly?

>Available agents always have a mission for you
>If they offer it and you delay until it expires there no penalty
>If you decline it gets replaced with a different mission without penalty
>Except if you do its more than once every 4 hours you take a standing hit
>Standing hit is with agent, corp and faction?

Is this accurate?
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>>160825709
If you fail enough missions, they will no longer allow you to dock in their stations.
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>>160825607
You're restricted to your race's ships, general consensus is caracal is great and caldari, and gallente have the best industrial (Hauling) ships
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>>160785431
F2P already ruining the elite experience
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>>160825742
Doubtful.
>>160825709
Pretty much.
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How do I work with the new tracking speeds?
I need to know if I can switch long range weapons on a ship with web scram (because reasons)
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>>160826513
>Doubtful.
you try going -5
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>>160825302
Amarr ships are brick tanks, which probably wont work in low level PvP, in small class ships where speed is key.
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>>160825607
>1. gayllante
>2. caldari
>3. winmatar
>4. shit
>5. amarr
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>new players literally mining and running missions
hahahahah
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>>160828498
>the game must be played my way or else
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>>160828498
Reactived my old account, currently afk mining while I debate re-subbing
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I have 600 mil as a 4 days old alpha
did I do good senpais?

How do I invest this into l i t t l e m o n e y
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>>160828992
are you burnt out yet?
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>>160829046
No because im epxploting an easy money fountain atm
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>>160829104
pls tell I'm poor
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>>160829104
And that being?
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>babby's first surprise dough
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>>160829104
Null or WH?
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>>160829147
>>160829171
If I told everyone it wouldnt be a money fountain anymore, sorry senpaitachi.

You will enjoy the game better by working for your money anyway ;^)
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>>160829147
>>160829171
Handjobs for space truckers
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>babby's first tryhard elitism
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>>160829247
You are doing relics
everyone does relics

I make 320m a garrison.
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>Butthurt faggot continues to be hutthurt
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>>160829345
No, and I wouldnt call relics a money fountain for alphas. it takes hours work to find and get the relics and get them home safely
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Am I awful or is exploration a meme? I only get like 10mill from each null relic site, how is this meant to fund a plex?
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>>160829452
>>160829509
Its the best money they can make.

Head to the Stain region or any other sansha null. Try there.
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>>160829741
The whole world gets in on our politics because theirs is boring
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>>160829812
No other election cycle is this full of drama and memery that's true
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>>160829812
politics is supposed to be boring
>>
>le everybody is interested in politics meemay
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>>160829959
>The best way to get people voting and active in their countries politics, is to grab their attention.
Maybe

but uninformed voterbase is terrible.
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>>160830031
>That wasn't the case this time around though
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>>160830063
Agreed, a criminal murderer is always better than an outsider. I'd rather our country be destroyed than donald trump allowed to grab my boy pussy EVER
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>>160829509
You get like 50 mil at least a pop in C1-C3 wormholes
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>>160794146
Map an analog stick to a mouse, the stick click to mclick.

Map the select overview hotkey (default alt+space).

Map modules.

Done.
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Will a cruiser fleet that engages at 40Km be effective in any way?
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>it's a pol infestation episode
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>>160830695
>go to gym
>barbells start raining from the ceiling

This is why im fat
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>>160794451
>steering left and right, pedals for up and down
genius
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Which Industrial ship for mining? I'm Minmatar omega. I wanna make a go of it for a while.

What all do I need for solo mining?
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Hacking minigame is pretty bad honestly
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>get sucked back into EVE
>have no Isk but lots of stuff
>none of it anywhere near Jita

Last time I played you could afk haul in freighters and no one would bother you if you carried less than 500m or so. Is that still how it works or are gankers too rich to care about losing a couple of Tornados or whatever they use now?
Courier contract prices seem to be way more expensive now, is that because of risk or are there just fewer space truckers? Is space trucking a comfy way to make Isk or just not worth it without webbing alts and scout?
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>>160831332
I've been ganked for 20 mil cargo
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>>160831286
Learn what the numbers do, and what everythign does. The only thing I hate about it is being rushed thinking someones targetting me as I hack
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>>160828603
PvE in EVE is objectively shit and mining will give you brain damage.
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>>160831332
You'll get ganked for free now, in an shuttle
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>>160806030
Caldari are not anarcho-capitalists because they do not believe in personal liberty. Gallente are libertarian and I didn't find any evidence that they have welfare.
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>>160831401
Didn't even pay attention to the numbers, I guess that explains why it went so poorly
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>>160831429
It generates content for your epic PvP you fag. Unless you're that PL cap sitting nigger or a station furry.
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>>160831530
>ratters generate content
lmfao do you even play this game
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>>160831520
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Hacking_101
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>>160831667
Probably more than you do.

Or I just know more, since I don't do one thing all my eve life as you do it seems.
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So how do you find a comfy home station starting out? The academy stations have borked prices with most of everything being above 30 to 50% than jita, and where you can find good prices there's absolutely nobody there and it's like 5 jumps to lowsec
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>>160831667

If everyone PvP'd without doing anything else, the game would grind to a halt. Ships and shit get blown up, but with no-one creating new wealth to put into PvP, everyone would be down to the free corvette.
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>>160831796
You generally want to live in a trade hub, or close to one.
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>>160825607
Amarr ships are fucking AWFUL unless you've maxed out your capacitor skills and use tech 2 pulse lasers with scorch ammo

So all the T1 amarr ships are utter shit for alphas compared to what you could use in the other three races.
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>>160831742
Thanks my man, I appreciate it
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>>160805792
Omega turned alpha here. The imicus is fine. Made 40 mil on one wormhole system run. I can't see how a better ship would make you profit more.
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>>160829509
average gurista relic site is 20mil from my recordings

some pirate factions are shit, others are better.
sansha is being rushed like fuck by all the new alphas, gurista space is pretty comfy
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Alpha scum here. Should I mine with a venture or an iteron v?

>in b4 mining
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>>160831208
the mining/gas/ice industry have their own faction now separate to all the 4 main factions

the only leftover is that some main player faction ships still have drone bonuses for mining, but so do the industry faction ships
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>>160831785
The purpose of a ratter/miner is to gather resources and then be scammed/ganked so human players can make use of the resources. You're essentially an NPC who spergs in local and on the forums.

>>160831838
lol no. There isn't even anywhere near enough ships lost to match the amount of shit people grind. Why do you think everyone who plays for more than a year has about 20bil isk?
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>made first billions exploring relic sites in catch as newb
>just covops and an ab rifter because most sites you only had to kill frigs and then circle the can all day while hacking
>armor plates for the armor rigs sold for 30 million a pop
Do I need a fancy asteros or Stratos to make bank and did the drop in those armor plates push another npc faction rare drops to the top or only lower the best towards the rest of the competition?
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>>160832938
>people grind.

In PvE
which is essential
to keep the money flowing
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>>160833046
astero allows you to take on sleeper sites much more easily than with a covops

what sort of sites are you killing rats in? or are you talking about years ago?

armor plates are still top-tier but their price has crashed to like 4mil or so
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>>160832938
simply epic
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>>160832676
If you're already going for afk mining, use a miasmos.
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>>160807896
Adding on to this. When you are hacking a site. Align yourself to an escape bookmark / celestial object.
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>chick won the Amarr throne

Damn, I bet that if every faction leader was decided by player tourneys we would have only girls soon.
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>>160833267
>align yourself
more like kill yourself

if you are at 0 speed, it does not matter what direction you are facing for time-to-warp

if you move more than 5k away from the can, you fail it. so what sort of retarded advice is this?
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>still playing this game
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>>160833159
It was years ago, I don't know if you have to kill everything now, I could ignore the big stuff before. Every site had cruisers, BCs and BSs but all you had to do was take out webbing frigs and then orbit the can in a t1 frig with ab on until your module opened it. Basically I'm asking if you have to kill things now in relic and hacking sites in null. I'll keep astero in mind for low class wormholes.
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>>160833309
Wait. Are you saying amarr players were able to ensconce a waifu on the throne?
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>>160831925
Fuck it, I like the aesthetic.
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>>160833494
I did not consider that.
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>>160833759

https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/announcing-amarr-championships/
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>>160833117
>>160833165
These are the retards who picked EVE as a game and then decided to grind in it. lmfao don't forget to broadcast for reps before you jump off that bridge.
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>>160831925

With the flood of alphas they will be forced to fix this.
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>>160833895
lol
>>160833931
lol
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>>160833638
nah there are zero threats or rats or anything in all the pirate relic/data sites

wormholes have sleeper relic/data sites that have rats still, they will fuck you up

sleeper CACHEs on the other hand are only found outside wormholes in normal space, they are basically giant puzzles, but there are ez-mode guides all over the web for them

also ghost sites, which are data sites on a timer with fat loot, and you DIE if you fail any hack or the timer expires. read up on it.
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>>160833862
Holy shit, that's actually pretty cool.

>>160833981
Okay, thanks.
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How do I join pupper?
I just wanna solo mine.
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haha nice garbo, ebin ccp
redeemed and thrashed
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>>160833931
I sure fucking hope so

This has literally been a problem since the very beginning of the game. We're on, what? 12 years now?
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>he hasn't fixed the problem by not flying amarr
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>>160834814

It was less of a problem when some of their later ships were good and everybody could fly everything.

With alphas forums will be full of angry people asking why one race is worse than others.
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>HE ACTUALLY BELIEVES THIS SHIT
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>>160834994
>People complaining about Amar
>People not complaining about Minmatar

I'll take it.
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>Everyone says to mine in a Venture
>Want to mine in an Industrial ship
>Just do it with the ugly as fuck yellow shitstain Venture

There has to be a better way to solo mine.
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>>160835564
There is. Sub and get a barge.
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>>160835651
I am subbed, which barge?
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>>160835723
PS: AM MINMATAR AND LOVE AESTHETIC
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>check sunesis
>it's shit
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>>160835723
Retriever is a good one as it gets a good ore hold and a good rate

The procurer gets the most tank but the least one hold and the covetor gets the most mining rate but even worse ore hold which is usually reserved for jet can mining
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>>160835723
>>160835785
All the barges look pretty much the same. You should pick based on the attributes, not looks. Each specializes in a different thing.

The Covetor has the highest yield (+25%) but the lowest tank and ore hold. Generally not used for solo mining as it has to make frequent trips back to the station to drop off ore and is a gank target.

The Retriever has the largest ore hold but only moderate yield and its tank isn't much better than the Covetor. Better for solo mining as it has to make less trips but still a gank target.

The Procurer has the best tank by far (You can easily get 40-80k EHP depending on your fit) making them very hard to gank, but it has only a middling ore hold.

I'd suggest the Procurer if you're new and don't have much money as losing a Covetor or Retriever to a gank can be costly.
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If capsuleers can clone themselves any body they want why isn't everybody a 10/10 animu slut?
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>>160835979
The Procurer it is!
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>>160836407
>i don't know what cloning means
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>>160836407
>not wanting to look in the mirror and see this face right here

>>160835979
Is the ganking really an issue outside of hulkageddon. Is Helicity still even doing that?
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>>160836857
I've seen multiple Retrievers and even Mackinaws get ganked in High sec recently. Most were by CODE catas.
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>>160836925
Does CODE stick to Jita and thereabouts or are they spread out?
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>>160837067
They seem to be pretty spread out: https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99002775/
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Who the fucks brings logi to a fucking WH space while doing relic/data sites?


Literally a fucking Astero grabbed me with scram and seconds later a fucking logi lands on grid and starts repairing him


What the fuck
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>>160837248
>1 combat ship with 1 logi alt

people who are trash at pvp
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Gotta advertise, CCP.

Does /eog/ feel as if the game is ready for the incoming droves of F2P? Alpha options..
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>he doesn't have 3 guardian alts
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>PERUNGA
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>>160837248
>Who the fucks brings logi to a fucking WH space while doing relic/data sites?
People who want to kill you I guess. Kill a man's Asteri enough and he's going to try to come up with combat solutions if he's not smart enough to L2D-scan.
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>>160837067
All in all, is hard to die to code if you are good.
You have to consider like 80% of EVE lives in highsec and most of them are shitters that never learned to properly play the game.

I have not met anyone in my corp that has every been ganked in highsec, and I've met a lot of people in my 8 years.
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>>160837248
You were probably in his home or nearby and you never noticed.
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>>160837347
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>>160837745
More people log in on weekends. Shocking.
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>>160837347
fuck off
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Bongs out.
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Daily reminder that...
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ur an autist
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>>160838698
The...
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>>160838773
moros
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>>160838698
>>160838773
>>160838845
hhahaha lolol so enin lsmaom omofj xddd fly a nag hohahah msl ebin

E
B
I
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>>160838845
Isn't that great of a dreadnought and you should use the nag because ccp is really bad at balance and there is no reason to use the moros
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Why though
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>>160838980
I think coaster is a newbie system and that one tutorial mission that suicides your ship is there
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Is eve-uni a good starter corp? Something better out there?
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>>160839482
Pancakes is better
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>>160839581
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>>160839671
Join Pancakes
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>>160839792
When I search Pancakes 36 corps come up. None just named Pancakes.
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>>160836857
>>160836925
Is high sec just a meme? If you get ganked all the time what's the point of living there?
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>>160840957
Only stupid people die in hisec. Seriously, look up lossess in hisec of the usual bear ships. Fuckign abominations.
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>>160785118
PVP IN THIS GAME SUCKS

>Get cheap ship
>Go to lowsec
>D-SCAN LIKE A FUCKING RETARD, search and search
>Find one, his ship is better than yours? find another one, is worse?, kill him
>Repeat

Fucking Dscam shit, it makes the game an autistic simulatior, thank god i didnt pay for this. Its like if in pvp the less annoyied by excel level shit wins.
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>Join BRAVE for some null explo
>Alpha kiddies have literally overrun everything

Here's to hoping lowsec is still the /b/ of EVE and still scares off most newfags.
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>>160841262
lowsec is shit also
tons of alpha fuckers all over

been popping them for days now
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>>160840702
Go to the chat channel and type 'join Pancakes' the Alliance is called Pancakes.
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>alpha clones think they can steal my salvage
baka
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>>160841232
There is a lot more to what can engage what than simply being better or worse.
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>>160841861
its not that, its the Dscan, is fuckign time consuming and boring
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>>160785356
If you want to do big boi hauling you need a freighter or a transport ship
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Are citadels POSes?
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>>160836561
Pls respond
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>>160787936
EVE has been dying since 03
>>160789471
You can make it sub 2s with implants and a few modules
It's the safest ship in higsec and lowsec
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Is nullsec ratting in a battleship better than running highsec incursions? Or at least similar isk? I have a incursion alt with nightmare skills and I'm getting sick of listening to autistic TVP coms.
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>>160789857
>ages
>talks about all-out
baka
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>>160841985
They are Player Owned Starbases, yes, but they're not the originators of the term.

A stick with a bubble is a POS, a Citadel is a citadel
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>>160842106
>tired of TvP comms

Do what I do. mute literally everyone but the FC. Or, mute the FC as well and just shoot tags. Works pretty well unless the FC decides he wants to try and contest russians and the fleet warps off without you.
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>>160825414
>It would only take a year
They'd patch it before you finish.

>>160824648
Go for ~6,000,000 on your main character.
Then get at least 5,000,000 on both your extra slots.
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>>160842106
The best I've managed ratting in null has been like 15-20m ticks in a BS running only gud sites. Incursions tick for 31m every like 10 minutes.
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>>160842165
So the citadels have not replaced POSes? I thought they were the result of that pos update. So what's the point then? I see them in highsec systems that already have stations. Can you do research and have your own manufacturing lines like a POS?
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>>160842484
What about mission running, is there anything worthwhile there?
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>>160842732
They're gradually phasing out POS and replacing them with the Citadel.

You can do everything in a Cit that you could in a POS, its just they cost heaps more and are somehow worse at defending themselves.
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>>160842872
somehow worse at defending themselves

What like no timers? Still if individual corpies can have a place to dock ships only they can access I'm okay with it.
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>>160841939
>40 days to use an obelisk
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>>160842792
Blitzing and burners, but the initial investment is kinda high.
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>>160842992
They have timers, its just that a billion isk citadel is absolutely shit at defending itself while a large POS half its price can put up more of a fight.
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>>160843048
40 days is nothing in EVE time
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>>160785417
>not flying the best looking ships in the game
>not being part of the glorious amarr empire
>>
Why would you roll an Amarr just to train for Minmatar ship?
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>>160843315
Nyx and Nemesis are the best looking ships in the game
Source: Nyx is the only ship that has a magnetic floating model
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>nemesis
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>>160843251
obligatory
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>nyx
>good looking

why is this meme so prolific
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>>160843067
What kind of isk is there to make? And the risk?
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>alpha accounts advertisement
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>>160844016
Nyx is probably the best looking SC
>>
>Been playing this game on and off for 5 years now
>Built capitals for alliances
>Pulled off multi-billion ISK heists
>Run sites 50 jumps into enemy sov for weeks

In that time I have never done any PvE or PvP. With the new influx of free players, I feel like there's no way to have an enjoyable solo experience being a pacifist anymore. Good job CCP.
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>>160844016
It's an objective fact
Amarr ships are shit just like your opinions
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>>160844184
it looks retarded. hel looks great
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>>160844031
Risk? None in hisec (not counting DCs and ganks and whatevs). You can do it npc nullsec for the extra LP bonus tho.

ISK is in LP so depends who you run for. 300M/h.

White stag once stream sniped some turbo autsitic dude who had a whole guide on youtube for every burner. Forgot his name tho
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>>160844215
>my extraneous anecdote out in my shit to renter space is indicative of the entire habitat of eve
>>
>white stag calling someone autistic
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>>160844263
Nyx>Hel>>>>>>POWER GAP>>>pile of dog shit>>Wyvern>Aeon
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>>160844403
it's all patchy and the things on the front are very flimsily attached they look dumb
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>>160844403
The waters is worse than the ae on because it tanks less and it has about as big fighter bay as a thanny
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>>160844313
>I don't realize there is an entire industry behind making the ships I blow up like an autist for fun.
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>>160844472
Its got that classic ayylmao mothership look going on, and that does it for me.

The Hel is pretty fucking great looking but the Nyx slightly edges it out.
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>>160844556
Yea dude Alphas don't give a fuck about industry
>>
What exactly is the Jove Empire? How do I get there?
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>>160844510
Good thing we're arguing about looks and not viability.
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>>160844373
>>160844289
>>160844031
this fag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZRSuO6ho-0&list=PLhQ9WQxw3Kb3r93AfShoKkeKQlO346wwY
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>>160844641
You don't get there, its completely disconnected
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>>160844748
Why is it on the map?
>>
>>160844641
By participating in the alliance tournament
>>160844932
because the system exist and are there 23.5/7
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>>160844641
>What exactly is the Jove Empire?
NPCs for CCP events.
Same "faction" that runs CONCORD.
>How do I get there?
Not even sure the systems exist off the map.
>>
>>160823810

It's a C2 with C4 and highsec statics.
>>
>haven't played in years
>check out f2p limitations
>expect severe paywall
>alpha clones are actually very generous
>you can do pretty much anything except cloak, PI, implants
>just not at peak efficiency
>could probably contribute in nullsec war efforts
>no need to grind to plex your account

I remember CCP fucking up absolutely everything. What am I not seeing here?
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>>160845064
lol faggot dumb tard
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>>160844641
Start working for CCP and then you can teleport yourself there.
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>>160844252
Amarr ships look great, all the way from t1 frigates to SC.

Gallente and Caldari have a few good looking ships in their entire collection and Minmatar ships look like heaps of garbage loosely welded together.

then again I also like my space chicken shuttle, so my opinion probably doesn't mean much in these circles
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>>160845343
>What am I not seeing here?
It's actually a nerf to trial accounts.
Alphas are kitted for all PvP all the time.
Among other things, they have no income.

It's a two-pronged "fix":
• Casuals don't quit when they can't earn a PLEX it in 27 days.
• Trial account bot mining hordes are way, way worse at mining.
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>>160845910
>Among other things, they have no income.
Level 3 missions is pretty OK income for a trial

There's even rumors of people starting up alpha incursions well see how that pans out
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>>160846064
Isn't there an alpha corp for money making or something?
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>>160845573
>Aeon
>literally a half done ship
>great looking
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>>160845910
FW has like 50m/hr for a Catalyst.
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>>160846064
>Alpha incursions

How the fuck do you run incursions in meta-fit T1 cruisers?
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>>160846064
Spamming L3 missions with the goal of plexing your account is mind-numbing work. Ideally you'd want to at least be blitzing L4's and that's going to take months of training if you want to be any good at it.
>>
>>160845910
Fw literally generates some 100m isk an hour you can't go wrong
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>>160846313
Gnosis
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>>160846313
Brick tanked to he'll and back mixed with tons of cruiser logi
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>>160846315
You can run faction war really easy get Dank money
>>
I've seen people say to prioritise training the core fitting skills, which ones are they exactly?
>>
>>160847457
Power grid management, cpu management, capacitor systems operation, capacitor systems management, navigation skills and stuff
>>
>>160847457
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Fitting_Skills
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>>160847457
What first reply said and weapon upgrades and advanced weapon upgrades.
>>
buzzard or helios for exploring?
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>>160847457
CPU management and Power Grid Management
Also rigging skills, shield upgrades, weapon upgrade, advanced weapon upgrade, electronics upgrade, and energy grid upgrades
That should be all of them
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>>160848201
Caedes
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>>160848201
Based on looks, the Buzzard hands down. Either ship will allow you to explore. Something like that, you're not going to be sitting there wishing you chose another race.
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tfw too stupid to understand how to station jew
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>how to station jew
If you aren't using a macro, you're just losing money
>>
>find first wormhole
>it's an untouched virgin hole
>try hacking site, most shit just blows up
>there's a guy in an Imicus
>decide to grab Merlin and try to kill him
>warp back to wormhole
>it's gone

How did it despawn so fast? Aren't they supposed to last for a bit? I jumped through, docked, grabbed my Merlin and it was gone
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>>160848546
>you chose another race
>T2 frigate
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*raises paw*

Question: Should I renew my subscription?

I'm not a very social person and I don't like talking on mic. Can I still have fun in this game?
>>
>>160848830

Read the WH description next time.
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>>160848980

yeah, trust me though, there's so many autistic retards that you'd have to be really fucked up to stand out against them
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>>160848980
>Question: Should I renew my subscription?
No

>I'm not a very social person and I don't like talking on mic. Can I still have fun in this game?
Maybe if you're autistic enough but probably not.
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>>160848830
Check the wormhole(right click show info)
It will tell if it's about to go away(End of Life) or reaching max mass(critical)
You can also hear these things from the breathing
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>>160848830
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>>160848980
>tfw you got all excited about flying in big fleets and the first time you speak up on mumble you get bullied by anglos for sounding like Schwarzenegger
>never log in again
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>>160849262
Oh god, don't remind me. I think this was the main reason I quit the game back then.
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>>160849262
>Diligently practice a decent English accent
>They keep calling me English instead now

I guess it's better than them making fun of my accent
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>voice chat asks me where I'm from
>say texas
>proceed to bully me because I don't have an accent
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>>160849262
>goes into fleet chat
>forgot to set my PTT
>The mosque next door plays athan
>"HEY ARE YOU ISIS xddd"

I hate bullies ;_;
bully the guys who said "jump" on channel instead.
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>join retarded meme corps you find in local
>complain about game being bad
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>Talk on comms all the time
>No one makes jokes at your expense or even remarks on your accent or voice at all

Feels bad to be ordinary
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>>160849610

>texas
>no accent

nice try
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F O R
R
E
E
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>>160785118
I'm a poor goy that just redowloaded the game because it's free and I saw some nice Picardias about it on /pol/. Is there a 4kin guild for me to join?
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>>160850652
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1tRWNC67rXB
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>>160849356
All the big meme corps I've tried were very cliquey, basically just 200 silent F1 drones and the same 10 guys talking all the time.
Also the bigger US TZ presence the more hazing
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With a boost of 40% more players, will plex cost go UP or DOWN?

And how far up or down?
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>muh plex prices

why do people care so much about this
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>>160851494
Maybe because I don't want to spend 1.2 bil when its going to go down to 800mil? Pretty simple stuff.
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>>160851494
I think it's the financial equivalent of Gold in this game. Players put their excess cash in to PLEX to hedge against inflation
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>>160851494
Because I want NEETs to pay for my ships
High plex prices mean I can buy more stuff
>doing PvE for 4 hours instead of working for half an hour
top kek
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Guys.. Why did I get a GNOSIS red skin.. and not a gnosis?

I wasnt even subscribed, I was just on my 9 year old account.
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>>160851368

up initially then down quite a bit
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>>160851859
Alright maybe Ill hold off on buying a plex to horde.
Kind of felt like it was a toss up.

Like on the one hand, you have more players, so that means more people bringing plex into the game, and more ISK being generated in general.

On the other hand, You have more players, so that could mean demand goes way up and prices soar.
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Does anyone know why the Russian's names end with a number like "46rus" or "57rus". Is that which district they represent?
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>>160848946
>T2 frigate
>that requires racial frigs V
Some people try to reach their goal of vertical progression before spending skillpoints on horizontal progression. If it meant nothing, OP wouldn't have asked.
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>>160852293

honestly it wouldn't surprise me if ccp actively interferes with the plex prices due to f2p
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>not training spaceship command 5s for T1 ships
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>>160848980
>>160849262
>mic doesn't work
>use text to speech commands any voip has
The whole women get free shit is true, as is the women take a lot of shit when they speak. I've never presented myself as a vagina-american, mind you, I just never disabused anyone of the idea.
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>>160852594
we've had shitters claiming nonstop that ccp messes with the price for years, without any evidence ofc
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Battleship sized glass cannon with capital guns when?
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>>160852594
Interferes in what way? Dumping them into the market?
>>
>find some good 1v1 null pvp
>he immediately warps his alt in to save himself

Every single time. Are people just utter shit or what?
>>
How do I space truck?

How and what materials do I get to start off space trucking?

What skills/ships?
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>>160853070
Killmails are the problem. Killmails have always been the problem. Remove epeen and most of the gay shit would disappear.
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>>160852714
>>160853023

f2p is a bit different though for obvious reasons

it would make more sense for them to remove them from the market if anything but its hard to determine
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>>160853325
>it would make more sense for them to remove them from the market

Oh yeah, true.
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>>160853325
I think it would make the most sense for them to not do anything and leave it how it is
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>>160853168
You're a fuckin idiot, kill mails have always been in the game
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>>160853495
He never said they werent in the game
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>>160853495
> Killmails have always been the problem
>kill mails have always been in the game
you sure I'm the idiot here?
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>>160853486

you aren't the one trying to make money from a business venture

remember they took on an ex-EA employee to handle their transition to f2p
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>>160853694
fucking up the prices and making everyone mad isn't a good idea
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>>160853148
1. get suicide ganked by code
rinse and repeat
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>>160852293
There are people with Plex stocks worth trillions of Isk and they didn't buy them for 2016 prices.

>>160853023
CCP would probably only interfere if there were not enough Plex on the market for people to stay subbed. And they don't spawn Plex, they used Plex from banned accounts.
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CCP didn't do anything when it dropped from ~1,3 to ~0,8.

Remember plex was initially like 300M or some shit. Nothings gonna happen. Stop sperging
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>>160854102

when has this ever stopped someone?
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What ship should I train for if I only play Storm?
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>ccp make it stop my market autism is upset :(
lol
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>>160854583
because it loses them money because it loses them customers. you just seem like a cynical retard
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>no work for almost a month now
>looking at the prospect of actually having to grind for a plex
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Is there anything fun in this game you can do without friends?
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>>160854793

i think you misunderstand the point of them interfering with plex, the purpose of f2p was to bring in whales for the soon to be cash shop

if plex prices are too cheap, people won't subscribe
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>>160854983
Become filithy stinkin rich!
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>>160855056
>if plex prices are too cheap, people won't subscribe
This is the dumbest shit ive ever heard
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>>160855056
>the purpose of f2p was to bring in whales for the soon to be cash shop

source?

>if plex prices are too cheap, people won't subscribe

do you think they make less money when someone plexes their account instead of subscribing?
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>>160854718
>>>/vg/d2g is that way radagast
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>>160852714
They dump confiscated plex all the time in form of events, but they have never just generated plex.
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>>160855254
You're a retard if you don't understand that.

>plex cost 1 isk each
>GEE LET ME PAY 19.99$ USD INSTEAD
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>>160854718
Blood Raider ships because they're underpowered as fuck.
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>>160855440
where do you think that plex came from anon
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>>160855440
When a person purchases a plex where is the money sent? Oh yeah, ccp.

Fuck off retard.
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>>160855440

People pay much more for many times more worthless things in other games.
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>>160851856
>I wasnt even subscribed
Why complain? Free shit.
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>>160855440
You are not a smart man.
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>>160852387
Help manage mules/smurfs?
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>>160854983
>be a tycoon of industry
>be a honorabru solo roamer and liveblog in bsb channel
>be a dishonorabru cloaked camper and make nullbears cry

That's about it really
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>>160855772
>>160855694
>>160855592
>>160855509

Dont ever reply to me or son again.
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>>160856068

What kind of ships would a cloaked camper use? What kind of targets do you hunt?

I'm a noob and this appeals to me
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>>160855321

every game that ever went f2p

>>160855254
>>160855321

if plex prices are cheap, why would they keep an excess on the market?
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What's worth flying that's medium size and has missiles?
I'm activating an account with my old missile frig alt. I go kessie and talwar all day but i'm going to train into cruisers. I'll fly caracals for a cheap cruiser and have always like khanid ships so I'll cross train into amarr for AFs and HACs but beyond that, what is available in the world of cruiser sized missile ships that's worth training into?
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>>160856342
Because lota people buy a plex to get quick cash.
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>>160856342

Literally all they did in eve is remove the time limit from trials
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>>160856470

compare that to people who plex their accounts instead
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>>160856608

Nah, you could train more skills in trial too
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>>160856609
Yeah? Its called supply/demand what about it
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>>160856431
everything rapid cancer related

>cancercal
>osprey navy issue
>orthrus
>cerberus

khanid ships aren't very good by the way, except malediction which is about tackling, not shooting missiles

I like the scythe fleet issue, but most people are bad at eve and put guns on it even though missiles are better

some people use heavy missiles in blobs, but it's uncommon. caracal navy issue is trash btw, avoid at all costs
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>>160856687

In no meaningful way. You could use the month to get 2 skills to V and then you can't play without paying
>>
>rlml scyfi

>CNC is bad

Look at this faggot
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>>160856730
Is it really all rapid lights? That's fuckign disappointing.
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>>160856697

which is what this entire discussion is about, ccp interfering with that to encourage more subscriptions
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>>160856904
drake, prophecy and cyclone use ham/hmls
dont bother with cyclone, its utter trash
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>>160856941
Thats not how this shit works
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>>160856904
you don't have to use rapid lights, but rapid lights are extremely overpowered and these ships are good at making use of them. if you want to be a big hipster and use hams then we can talk about that
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>>160857078

so explain it
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>>160856608
Pretty sure trials could cross-train, the alpha clones are really limited in that regard
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>>160857015
I pick a lot of ships for soloing based on whether people are easily willing to engage. Exactly how 'utter' are we talking here?
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>>160857121
Already did
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>>160856941
Are you fucking arguing that attracting more players is interfuckingference? Is this actually what's happening right now?
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>>160857182
It's like you took a sleip to impregnate a drake and from this travesty came up the abortation fetus with down syndrome that is the cyclone
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>>160857191

link it
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>>160857135

That's fair enough. But even so, the time it takes to train to a different faction and get the skills for a different weapon type is pretty much your entire trial.
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>>160857275

they are tied together, with the influx of f2p players, its easier for them to introduce price controls or remove supply to bring about subscriptions
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>>160857359
>>160855421


If plex gets too low, tycoons scoop it up to resell later.

Plex will never drive subs.
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>>160857335
I like the model. pls no bully. I was pissed they converted it to missiles though, always flew it with turrets.
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>>160857518
>Plex will never drive subs.

...what
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>>160856196
Cloaky T3s, hunt and kill Isktars and ratting BS, paralyze nullbears with fear.
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>>160857713
If you plex you plex
if you sub you sub

bottom line
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Im an alpha, is a gnosis better for exploration?
Can I fit it with all the good stuff I need?

Also is it worth the 50 mil? Heron cant fight back :(
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>>160857824

Man that sounds great but I don't have billions to piss away on shiny T3s
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>logging in after taking a 5 month break

What the fuck have they done to the interface

>they even changed the "skill training completed" voice

is nothing in this world sacred?
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>>160857876
gnosis will die just as easily, they'll just bring bigger ships to kill you.
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>>160857852

what a profound statement

dumbfuck
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Why are there no t2 pos towers/mods?
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>>160857925
Well, if you hadn't specified no friends, I would've said get a SB and fit a covert cyno on it, drop cloaky T3s and blops all over nullbears.
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>>160858003
Not really.

Plex exist to curb goldbuying

any fluxuation is just happenstance
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>3 days and no reply from CCP
>>
> tfw can afk mine in peace with Concord police in my mining belt due to a previous permit assasin
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>>160857990
Well I only explore in wormholes really, feel like I could just leave if someone stumbles upon me and I kill them. They cant see what kind of ship I am with dscan right?
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>>160858031
Because giving T2 mods to POS' means that you can no longer warp in the system Chelien
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>>160857965
>Aura is gone

This is a strange sort of feel, I don't like it
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>>160858036

Perfect! So I just have to find friends now
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>>160858067
>happenstance

no longer believable after the switch to f2p
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>>160858128
Hoo boy. Anon, any gnosis you bring into a hole is a gnosis you'll lose. i guarantee it.
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so you're convinced that ccp fucks with plex prices even though you have no evidence of it
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>>160858265
Increased demand
less supply
higher prices
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>>160858296
;_;
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>he doesn't know
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>>160858328

and when people can't afford those prices, they go back to subscribing instead of plexing

thanks for confirming what i've said the entire time
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>>160845068
I meant like what is the actual wormhole system specifically
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>>160858484
who do you think are the ones putting those plexes up on the market? do you think it's ccp?
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>>160858347
Your d-scan is like an extended overview. It uses your overview settings. Listen. these guys in wormholes have years of experience playing and years of experience killing tresspassers. Stick to t1 scanning frigs or 'safer' stuff like covops frigates rather than bringing your gnosis and only do sites those ships can handle.
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>note to self: plex prices is a guaranteed thread derailer
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>>160858484
>and when people can't afford those prices, they go back to subscribing instead of plexing
hello where are the proofs
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>>160858594
>derailer
but its ontopic and not dogposting
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>>160858602

of people not being able to afford to plex and subscribe?
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I seriously can't get over how ugly the new interface looks, what the fuck were they thinking implementing this mess
>>
When do we get those subscriber rewards?
>>
Is FW a good idea for a fairly new alpha? I want to get into pvp, but I also don't want to get annihilated by the first thing I see.
>>
If plex prices go up those alpha newbs won't stay for long.

It's already too expensive. 800m is the ideal price.
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>>160858908

its a way to sell plex

just look at it
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>>160853148
Fit a probe launcher onto a hauler.
Load up on whatever. Start scanning for wormholes.
Keep scanning for wormholes until you're near a trade hub.

Always open Contract packages.

If you're worried about gankers, bring an escort.
A rookie ships with a webber. It should try to keep a lock on the hauler.
Escort jumps first, checks for bubbles.
If there's no bubble, get webbed, then insta-align and warp.
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>>160859038
You will get annihilated by the first thing you see.
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>>160859038
It's a good option because you get paid doing it. The best advice I've ever seen and followed is to fit 50 frigs cheaply near lowsec and just keep flying until they're all dead. Getting annihilated is how we learn. The best frig pilot I've ever seen was a guy named Yankietjunjara who was in RvB with me. Dude was only good because he'd lost 1500 ships taking every single fight he was offered and learning from them.
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>>160858998
Already did
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>>160859350

I didn't? Should be in redeem items right?
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>>160859183
you're retarded, high or low plex prices isn't good or bad for any particular group
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>>160859396
Check at the bottom of the character select screen, might only show it there.
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>>160859417

Oh yes, having to grind 50% longer is not a big deal for new players.
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>>160859501

Oh well what do you know, they're there today.
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>>160859645
you mean being able to p2w for 50% more isk isn't a big deal for new players
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>>160859645
New players should be subbing. Buying a plex is like moving a mound of dirt. You should wait until you have a bulldozer or at least a good shovel instead of trying to do it with a teaspoon.
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>>160859218
My subscription is paid out till April and I don't even want to play the game anymore

whatever graphic designer came up with this shit should be out of a job
>>
If I want to try l4 missioning, what is the best faction to do it with?
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>>160859895
Caldari - Raven
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>>160859839

blame the new EA hires for the f2p transition

its gonna get a lot worse too
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>>160859895
ssoe
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>He's in horde
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>>160860024
source?
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>>160859038
Yeah but don't join the NPC FW corp and don't join the first shitter corp that throws you an invite. Check ZKillboard to see if they know what they're doing and are actually active in your TZ.
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>>160860024
>its gonna get a lot worse too
hilmarletter.png
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>Is there anything fun in this game you can do without friends?
Making friends and camping gates are both fun.
Good luck doing both though.
>>
Are there any corps that don't require a job interview, full body frisk + cavity search and installing 5 different comms programs?
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>>160859895
>>160860045
Isn't Sisters of EVE just a meme corp for people that can't make their own spreadsheets?
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>>160860265
Yeah mine only requires an app and interview and a 30d trial period and one comms program called teamspeak
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>I haven't undocked from jita in 5 months
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>join /v/ bros
>the guy who blew up my Heron yesterday is in there
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>>160841232
Yeah, pretty much

Combat is awful in this game but a lot of eve vets refuse to accept this fact and autistically believe it can be fixed with more stat tweaks instead of a top-to-bottom redo.
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>>160860618
I'll be waiting outside to kill you when you finally do.
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>join /v/ bros
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>>160856687
You lose access to any skills that could bring in real money
Trial players now have longer term PvP to look forward to
But they have way worse income
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>>160860618
pls
teach me the ways of the jew
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>>160860641
Stalk him.
Become friends with him.
AND THEN RAPE HIM AND KILL HIM AS REVENGE
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>>160860752

I don't even play market games. I just log in once every few days to check my skill queue, browse some ships in preview windows and then log off.
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r8 my alphabro progress
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>>160850673
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>>160861042
bretty good m80
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>>160841232
EVE PVP went to shit when people got gud. 12 years ago even the ~elite~ PVP corps didn't know what they were doing and you had a good chance to kill anything you met in a ceptor.
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>>160861089
pol stays in pol, your own damn fault
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>>160861213
Thanks mate, I feel like im screwing myself in the long run by not learning PvP though. Thoughts?
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>>160861260

>butthurt leftists are still this salty

Keep the tears flowing
>>
>>160861427
But I voted trump?

Pol stays in pol.
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>>160861042
run the tutorial again on your other char slots for some FREE SP
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>>160861509
Do skill points transfer between chars?
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>login
>outfit my character with a different shirt
>spin my ship
>glance over at the Jita scams
>log off

money well spent
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>>160861407
Be fleeted with other people as much as possible.
>>
>>160861407
Games are for fun, do whatever you want if you enjoy it
>>
>>160859895
any

just pick up a machariel and blast through everything
if you go amarr, go with a laser boat like an apoc or nightmare
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>>160861706
Yeah, just redeem the injector on your main or contract it. You can even create more accounts for more injectors. Supposedly you can even go over the 750k limit if you use a stack of them but I haven't tried that.
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>>160861472
Doesn't matter how much you want it to be that way, it's not going to be that way
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>>160862060
Rare is a rule f a m
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>>160861827

But are some factions worth more LP-wise? I don't want to grind out a ton of missions to have worthless LP.
>>
>>160860265
I think Karmafleet and Pandemic Horde take literally anyone, even alpha clones.

They don't give a fuck if your a spy because there is nothing to damage through espionage.
>>
>join back to eve after losing interest for a year
>it's now f2p
>log in, all my skills are yellow'd out because they were trained on an omega account

what do?
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>>160863130
play the game
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>>160863130
You can do everything you could do before if you sub, you can just play for free as a very limited trial as well now.
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>>160861723
Are you a Drifter?
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>>160861723
how many spins you got m8
I usually do sessions of 3-5k until I log off
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>>160862261
>But are some factions worth more LP-wise?
Yeah, you want to run for a corp that offers stuff that people use and that gets blown up often. Ideally something you can't get from FW LP store or from corps that have L5 agents.

Lower system sec = more LP. Constellation layout matters too because some agents will send you into lowsec every 2 missions and then you might as well run for a lowsec or null agent and rake in more LP.

If you don't want to do the math just go with SOE but some other corps might be better.
>>
>>160860265
My alliance isn't currently hiring, but we still do full cavity searches and penis inspections.
>>
So, what is the max possible SP level for an Alpha clone?

Is there any reason that I couldn't create an army of Alphas that just train Something Huge V over and over, and skill extract them to feed my main SP?
>>
>Decide to give the game a shot after the new update.
>Shop around for a corp that seems to be active, I can make my own fun, I just want to have corp mates to bantz with.
>Lively recruitment channel, everyone seems friendly
>One week later the only chat has been recruits asking about fitting options

Can't even spark up a conversation in local with the other alliances in the area. When did everyone get so anti-social?
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>>160864138
You need 5.5 million to extract, alphas can only train 5 million of alpha skills.
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Strangely comfy game tbqh. Though there's not much I can do in a wormhole with a T1 frig is there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV0hwZwNQZc
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>>160861042
Coming for you now Erik :^)))))))))

>Making a butt joke with the Probe
Are you me?

Handy that its cap stable with a MWD, next best thing to having a cloak I guess.
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>>160864249
>a T1 frig is there

you can do pirate relic/data sites, they have no spawn in C1-C3 wormholes
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>>160864141
When everyone started using out-of-game communication. Slack or whatever the fuck.
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>>160864228
>old account with more than 5.5 mil SP that doesn't have all Alpha skills trained
>train Alpha skills
>extract Alpha skills once you hit 500k
>leave Omega restricted skills alone
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>>160865741
That doesn't work.
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are freighters pretty much gank proof in hisec?
i refuse to alt so im training to obelisk on my main
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>>160866612

>freighters
>gank proof

Dohohohohohohohohoho

http://www.minerbumping.com/2016/11/kills-of-week_20.html
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>>160866612
Yes :^)
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>>160866612
Usually people go straight for jump frieghts instead, since frieghters are preyed by suicide gankers, usually those Tornados you see at gates.
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>>160866848
>>160866809
>tfw just want to be a comfy spess trucker
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>>160866957
>tfw you're too scared to ever use your JF because the last time you did you lost an Ark to xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded AllianceXx
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>>160867542

how were you ever in a position to get caught in a jf
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>>160866972
jump freighter, don't bother with regular freighters

The biggest you should go with regular freighters are the dst's and covops transports.

>>160867542
You have to try and fail enough times that the performance anxiety goes away and then you'll start gettin gud.
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>>160867983
Bouncing off stations?
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>ship literally has a teleporter
>you still die somehow
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>>160867542
>train for 1/3 of a year to use ship
>don't use it
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>>160868719
>train target painter 5
>fc never lets you use your bellicose
>>
New industry players: While Rens is the Minmatar trade hub, Hek is the close to lowsec hub where players with shitty sec status who don't want to fuck with alts go to overpay for stuff. Take advantage and Rancer is always camped so just fucking don't.
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>tfw a few days away from wolf
a-assault frigs are still good right
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>>160869234
not for about 3-4 years now. all the requirements for them are real skills though, so you've not lost anything unless you actually trian the assault frigates skill
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>>160868719
>wasted half a year training for black ops
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>>160870070
>train black ops 5 and jump cal 5
>sell my black ops because it's fucking boring
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>Making a corporation only costs 2M ISK and a 20k ISK skill that takes 10 minutes to train

Why isn't everyone running around with their one man corp?
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>>160870192
if you just want to be a nom8s highsec shitter, then the choice is npc corp and pay tax, or 1 man corp and sometimes get wardecced
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>Make a new character in my account
>Constant spam to buy gametime and/or PLEX
>Can't train skills at the same time as my main character

What a mess, why not just make a new account for an alpha clone
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>>160870632
why not just play on your real character
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>>160870632
>why not just make a new account for an alpha clone
Better access to skills. What's the second character for?
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>>160870709
>>160870832
You niggas never spy on people?
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>>160870860

nobody worth spying on takes alphas
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>>160870860
no, why would I want to
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>>160870709
>>160870832
I just want to fuck around with an alternate character really, figured it'd be fun but man is it limited. I just got pretty annoyed that you can't train skills on an alpha on the same account if you have an omega training skills.
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>>160866972
As someone who wanted to be a comfy spess trucker for years, good fucking luck.

99% of the potential jobs are soaked up by people as bad as the "minerals I mine are free" dumbasses. The remainder are considered a shit job for alts that people do semi-afk for pennies, or rendered completely obsolete by jump freighter alts. And even then you have to get into corps and make deals just to get the shit-tier runs.

You can haul shit to a new place to sell it for a profit, but at that point you're no longer a trucker, you're a fucking trader who's doing his own hauling. And the morons who haul do it for so cheap you might as well just hire one of them for the pittance they're going to ask.
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>>160871078
there is no alpha character and omega character. it is account-wide. your account can train one character at a time
>>
>I just want to fuck around with an alternate character really, figured it'd be fun but man is it limited.
c >>160824648
>I just got pretty annoyed that you can't train skills on an alpha on the same account if you have an omega training skills.
I know what you're intending here, and I agree that it would be intuitive. But if one slot is Omega, the other two are too.
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>>160871231
Really? It kept telling me to buy gametime or PLEX to train multiple characters at the same time.

>>160871279
That's peculiar, I suppose I just don't entirely understand how the game works then. I guess preventing people from taking advantage of skill extractors makes sense though.
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>>160871523
multiple character training things have been around for ages
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>>160871605
That's still strange to me but oh well, thanks for informing me.
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>>160866972
>>160871107
You could always just join a big sovnull corp. Most of them have hauler programs you could get into.
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Can you do some fun shit as a pirate or it's just ganking and gate camping for braindead russians?
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>>160872000
There is plenty of fun to be had but it's one of those areas of the game where you need to make your own content.

Watch the art of poor videos from honorable third party.
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>>160872000
Yes.
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>>160870303
>Not solo roaming low and nullsec

However you're playing eve, you're doing it wrong.
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>>160872000

game is basically what you make of it, get some like-minded friends and go do what you enjoy
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>>160865296
Lol forgot about the ship hangar, oh well. Can't use cloak before I become Omega ;( comfy frog meme anon
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>>160872000
Eve is what you (and your corp) make of it. If you're a risk-averse shitter who never takes bait and runs at the slightest sign of trouble, yes, it's literally all ganking and camping.

Join a group that isn't afraid to go all-in and have fun, just because they're going to lose. They're out there, and they're a blast.
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>>160872000
Join Pupper.
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>>160872367
>tfw doing this in my svipul
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>>160870860
On your same account? Nigga, you are a shit spy.
You could never train skills at the same time, btw. Now you can pay something for it, if it's a plex like when it came out you're better off plexing another account.
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>>160872000
I went out solo in a T1 frigate today worth about 10 mil, went into hostile space and destroyed >300 mil of ships and came home with 150 mil of loot, on fire and being pursued by a bunch of faggots in overpowered scary ships

>>160872367
m8 pls
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>>160872367
How do I into this as an alpha?

I'm used to being way overskilled for everything, alpha is kind of intimidating me, I'm afraid I'm going to have to actually git gud.
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>>160872785
>How do I into this as an alpha?
Buy a plex
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>>160872785
You're in the trap that you're not ready for-Null,low,pvp,W-space. You're ready just do it. Fit up 50 frigs with cheap fits and fucking go out there and get them all blown up.
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>>160872935
Shit, you're right. I can't shake the thought of ships as tens or hundreds of millions. Alpha ships are cheap as shit, I could lose a hundred and barely feel it.

Thanks bro, time to go get some embarrassing lossmails.
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>>160872935
I wouldn't buy them in batches too big, if you're anything like me and want to tweak and optimise fits all the time
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>>160873321

some of the most impactful ships in the game are the cheapest

ewar, tackle and logi
>>
>tfw you're hot trash at PvP

how do I git gud
>>
>>160874603
Push the right buttons.
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>>160873631
>solo roam
>ewar/tackle/logi

I get what you're saying though and I'm already planning on finding some fleet goodness to participate in.
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>>160874603

avoid lowsec and fw
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>>160874603
1. PvP
2. Assess your mistakes
3. Fix your mistakes
4. Repeat
>>
Why do incursions ships have warp speed rigs
???
>>
>>160874862
to beat the Russians to the next site
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>>160874603
Look up slingshot maneuver
Know what range your fit operates at and don't get too close/far away
Fly with small groups/solo (fleets are fine but you learn less the bigger it is)
Lose hundreds of ships

Also this >>160874803
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>>160874862
Because sometimes you want to contest a site that another fleet is going to, and if they land on the gate 20 seconds ahead of you they have a significant advantage.
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>>160874712
alright

>>160874772
I'm in nullsec

>>160874803
Well I got destroyed in a few seconds in my tackle frigate in a smaller fleet action, so I'm wondering if that's normal or not.

>>160874952
Will do, thanks my main man. It's just discouraging when I consistently get blown up and don't do anything of value from what it feels like.
>>
>so I'm wondering if that's normal or not.
It is if you're dumb enough to initiate the fight.
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>>160874603
I joined RvB and stayed there for like three years. You get into fights is how. You lose ships. I mean, I'm pretty good at skirmishes with t1 ships up to cruisers but we didn't do things (much) like nano fleets or sniping fits so I'm not good at those. I can tackle and fight in straight up brawls or fight 1 v 1/2/3s or 5 on 5 type stuff because that's what I spent time and isk on. You just gotta do it. Crank up that Rick Ross hustling and put that shit on repeat with Shia telling you to do it on your second monitor and get your fucking ass out there and make some spaceship explosions, yours or theirs. Go over each fight after, win or lose and judge yourself.
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>dip into null exploration
>bring home 30 mil
>>
>look in a belt
>get a bil
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>>160875262
>Well I got destroyed in a few seconds in my tackle frigate in a smaller fleet action, so I'm wondering if that's normal or not
Two questions. Did you spiral in? When did you go in?
>>
Is Caracal generally the best cruiser an Alpha could fly?
>>
>>160875262
Even just being on the field can be helpful, because in the time they spend shooting you, they aren't shooting someone else in your gang.

Also, light tackle frigs die a lot, and die quick. Even just a few seconds of tackle can be enough to let the slower, heavier ships get on top of him and tear him to shreds. Try not to let it get you down, and look at the bigger picture of how the fight went (and be ready to reship if you can).

When in doubt, ask. We can only really throw general advice at you here, but someone in the thick of the battle may be able to tell you if you're doing fine or if you can do something better. Plus, showing that you actually want to learn and improve will gain you a ton of respect in a lot of peoples' eyes.
>>
>>160876205
>Caracal
>Not Vexor master race
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>>160875784
>scout wormholes
>find a pos with ships in the force field (I guess this is hard for alphas since no cloak)
>check corp info
>recruiting
>join
>scan holes every day and mark down when people are online
>find an entrance
>GTA 2 orcas, a hulk, and find out the ship hangar is open, took a tengu and a proteus and a drake from it and ejected all the other 100 ships it had (couldn't even fly anything but mining ships and frigs lel)
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>ehehe yes goy, it's perfectly fine to have your frigate blown up every fight
>now dont you need to reship? i can sell you the fit...
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>>160875706
Yeah I expect to lose ships so that's fine, it just seems I lose them more often than I do anything good. I try to do what the FC says and have fun and all, though something seems off. I'm pretty new and I expect to be bad at PvP and figuring out what the FC says as well, but man it's discouraging on some days.

>>160875810
FC said to jump on gate and we did, though moments prior the FC seemed to lose control for a few seconds and everything came jumping in at staggered numbers. Thinking over it I think I was just unlucky to get targeted in the first wave. Doesn't help that I landed right next to a destroyer or whatever it was. Typically I spiral in though, when I remember to anyway.

>>160876234
Yeah I get that, I'm also wondering if hero tackling a Moros that enabled my corp to kill it set way too high expectations for myself. Either way I'll learn I suppose. Thanks for the help though, guys. I appreciate it.
>>
>>160876448
>implying I would deal in such chump change as T1 frigates
Silly goyim, you have a lot to learn about trading.
>>
Is it true the manticore is useless because of the kinetic damage? Should I invest in gallente frig V for nemesis?
>>
>start playing 2 days ago
>start exploring in 0.8 and 0.7
>go to data sites
>explode and die every time regardless of if I even open the hacking panel or not

Wow, this sure is a fun game.
>>
>>160876627
None of the bombers are bad, but you will have an easier time fitting the hound and purifier. The manticore and nemesis have trouble using all of their mid slots, especially if you want to fit a bomb launcher.
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>>160876645
Is it weird that despite making several things blow up by failing, I have never even taken damage?
>>
>>160876551
>FC said to jump on gate and we did, though moments prior the FC seemed to lose control for a few seconds and everything came jumping in at staggered numbers. Thinking over it I think I was just unlucky to get targeted in the first wave. Doesn't help that I landed right next to a destroyer or whatever it was
Okay, you didn't have decloak first thing. Usually fights between fleets start with both fleets wanting to fight. FCs tend to send in tackle first but they don't need to because the other guys want to shoot it out with them. Better FC's will send in tackle after it kicks off to lock pricey targets down if there's no bubble or scram and web fast things. It's kind of the same here, if you waited until primaries were called by the enemy FC and then decloaked you might have had a longer life span. Don't disobey FCs though.
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>>160876780
No, normal data and relic sites are perfectly safe, the danger comes from other players hunting you.

>>160876645
You've either stumbled into ghost sites, sleeper sites, or done something terribly wrong. I don't even know if those exist in highsec. How can you die to a fucking highsec data site?
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>>160876645

First of all I have no idea how you can even die in hisec sites.

An second, don't do hisec sites. Go to wormholes.
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>>160876627
>Should I invest in gallente frig V for nemesis?
No. The Nemesis used to look like this. Now it looks like a retarded crab.
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>>160877126
I get blown up by the loot canisters. The second time I got blown up I just sat next to it assuming that the hack screen is what blew me up the first time and to see if NPCs would show up, they did then it exploded instantly without even having the hack panel open.
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>>160877112
Alright bud, thanks for the information.
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>>160877579

you were doing a ghost site then, when you decloak at the site, an invisible timer starts and when it reaches 0, rats warp in and kill you

alternatively if you pop a can, it deals aoe damage and will kill you

anything with covert in the name indicates a ghost site
>>
>>160877126
>>160877292

I looked it up and apparently they were ghost sites.
>>
>In a nullsec corp so long despite leaving I still freeze up when I see neuts in my overview while flying through highsec
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>>160876627
there's nothing wrong with kinetic damage
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Make a new thread, Kevin
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Kevin
>>
Kevin isn't real.
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>>160879701
Kevin is real.

He'll make a new thread any minute now.
>>
New thread when?
>>
>>160880289
c >>160880273
>any minute now
>>
is the difficulty of hacking a relic site equal to the loot within? I literally just lost a site on the hardest hack I've ever seen
>>
>>160880729
Yes and no. There are three levels of hacking sites (Rubble > Remains Ruins for relics, Com Towers > Mainframes > Databanks for datas), and generally the more difficult the better loot but the loot fairy is a fickle mistress.
>>
>>160880729
Loosely, yes. There are "tiers". But there's so much variation it's mostly random. Big puzzles can be easy and the small puzzles can kick your ass. Hard cans can drop 50k of loot and the small ones millions.

Don't fret over a lost can, just hack more cans.
>>
>>160880729
Not really. Difficulty is random.
>>
>New to PvP
>Always hear that destroyers are "frig poppers"
>Engage destroyer in my frigate anyway in an FW site
>Absolutely demolish them
Damn that felt good. I think there may be something to this whole PvP thing.
>>
>>160880729
Did you cargo scan it?

Also loot scales to sec status
>>
K E V
>>
Just reactivated with my gallente drone boat character. Whats the best way to get into just running sites and killing rats in an ishtar or better yet a carrier again? Corp recommendations?
>>
Is it better to just sell ore as an alpha, or looking into making ships?
>>
Protip: Use a cargo scanner before deciding whether or not to cancel a Contract and rip a package.
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>>160881496
You'll almost certainly be better off selling the raw ore. To use it for manufacturing you'd have to reprocess the ore into materials and Alpha clones have terrible reprocessing skills.
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