Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game similar to /hsg/ Hearthstone
The Steam version launched on October 28th.
Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)
Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/
Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/
Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing
Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#
Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh
Friend list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DKn9RybTNTQ3a8cm-68KvDOHCFBRK8VDD2JVO8HTUWg/edit?usp=sharing
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Some anon made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor for the lazy or mentally handicapped. Open wide and enjoy responsibly:
https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI
Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/
Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
Petrified: >>160703627
Anyone has a good earthrune deck to share?
I want Nurse Isabelle to give me a full check-up!
Pure love between human and elf is possible!
Could someone give me a decent midsword build? I'm struggling in B3.
floral gangbang
Praising Luna and Vania's fat cocks! every thread!
>>160729909
Look at this deck and laugh
>>160730768
ELF FUCKERS OUT
>>160730861
but we already did that
>>160730768
How can human boys even compete?
>>160730768
of course it is!
>>160730768
Do you have any lewd pictures of her?
>>160730673
Loving this thread so far.
>>160730923
Erika shouldn't be cheating on her princess with a dirty elf!
>>160730923
I wish I could join them.
>>160730861
Stop bullying me?
>>160730758
I would share mine but I've been constantly changing it and I don't have any Petrification or Ancient Alchemist for it
Friendly reminder that sword is the homo class
Is it right if I bought GarudaFOR FREEDOM?
>>160730827
3 Saber, 3 Fish Princess, then throw in whatever
dshitters on suicide watch
>>160730934
>OW!
>OH COME ON!
OH COME ON!
>OW!
>OH COME ON!
>>160730768
I have indeed seen the doujin to confirm this.
>>160731045
I don't mind cumming on her
>>160730989
I don't have ancient alchemist either,i just need a rough idea on how the deck looks like
Not even nip game can escape from uncanny valley.
>>160730768
Humans don't have the stamina to meet the sexual needs of an elf.
She needs to be gangbanged by a group of orcs. Or at least a Centaur.
>>160731045
OW
YOU'RE MEAN
HEHEHE
>>160730768
Too good for this world!
interested in playing bloodcraft (all kinds), should i reroll?
>>160731172
What golds did you get?
>>160731172
most likely yes
>>160730529
>tfw cucking cudgels out of value
>>160731172
Yes
>>160731172
bloody mary can surprise and burst people hella fast
>>160731045
>dub
>>160731172
Just keep it. Rerolling is a meme.
>>160731172
Well you have Bloody Mary which is needed in blood.
You're good to go for control shadow too..
newshit here, wat to do?
>Control vs Control
>first 3-4 turns of skipping waiting for the first person to summon a mob so we can nuke it with a spell
>>160731124
3x Scrap Iron always
maybe Crafty Warlock
3x Apprentice Alchemist always
Levi if you want the 3 damage spell
Red hot Ritual or Price of Magic depending on curve
Kaleidoscopic Glow to return scrap sigil or to cuck Haven amulets
Petrification
Veteran Alchemist if you want healing
Remi and Rami as a 4drop evolve
Fissure Bomb if you want a quick nuke
Alchemist's Workshop is okay, probably more of a filler card
Ancient alchemist for the golem spam
Pascale if you're insane
Calamitous Curse of course (or Alchemical Lore if it's all you have)
Twin Guardians and Juno to fill the board.
>>160731229
not sure if you mean all golds or just blood, but here
>>160731267
>>160731237
what should i try and get
>>160731436
Play forest
>playing Ranked with Tempo Forest to get the last win for my dailies
>the timer ran out before I could finish my Rhinoceroach plays to get lethal on the Seraph Control deck before Seraph popped
>the Control Blood deck had 2 Bloody Marys ready
>the Aggro Bat went first and I had no Ancient Elves or anything much else beyond 1-drops and Lizas
>>160731436
make an elf deck and bounce tia up and down and get her off a bunch of times.Either reroll or make a cheap deck like bats or banner
>>160731436
Reroll
>>160731515
Run an altered fate with no synergies to make them and spit their hand out!
Reminder that if you tried to bounce tia up and down Eve would kill you.
I'm sure nobody in this thread could beat a 6/6.
>>160731515
it happens, i mean shit look at the warrior mirror in HS
>just staring at each with meanful eyes while doing nothing but hero power and equipping a weapon for 4-6 turns.
So Cygames confirmed that there would be a new expansion "near the end of the year". Around what time can we expect them to start revealing cards if the expansion were to be released by, let's say, December 31st?
>>160731515
You mean DShift mirrors, which are hilarious.
>trying to get the other guy to Golem so you can Kaleidoscopic Glow a useless card into their hand
>casting Glow on your own Levi
>praying you don't draw Wind Blast
>>160731272
Dub isn't even bad in this game you ultra weeb.
Dumb haven user had so much amulets, he couldnt even use the satan servant
>>160731539
your golds are actually pretty good
>>160731609
How do you take so long calculating Roach combo?
Its almost always 1 mana = 1 damage. Bouncing roach? double your damage and add 2 more.
So how the fuck do I play Blood in Take Two? I realize I have some of the more staple cards you find in constructed but I honestly have no idea how to properly play this shit to its strenght / what to mulligan for and whatnot.
>>160731975
Don't try to do Vampy in Arena
It's too hard trying to get her off in there
is 5 legendaries (2 shiny/animated, 3 regular) a good starting roll or should I reroll?
they're x2 sun oracle pascale, enstatued seraph, lord of the flies, and dark angel olivia
was planning to just dust them and make a midrange swordcraft netdeck for like 5k dust
>>160731532
>>160731124
Also, always mulligan for one Scrap Iron and an Apprentice Alchemist, those will let you survive the first 3 turns with a 0/2 ward, 2/2, and 3/3 ward. Second best case scenario is Red Hot Ritual which will clear any 1 cost follower and delay their board a bit. Good luck, dirt wall is the only TRUE American deck (turn on your Garuda icon and USA flag)
>>160732061
She was the first pick and came with Temptress, I don't even remember what the other two were but they sure as shit weren't worth it compared to Temptress and the possibility of getting Vampy off.
>>160731868
i think i might just keep the account then, can always liquefy and build collections
>make a highlander dragon deck
>does better then ramp dragon
>>160731934
To be honest, I was on tilt pretty hard and I was running out of steam so I had Glimmering Wings and hope for the best. I got the Nature's Guidance after the Wings draws so then I had to revise the plan. He also had Snake Priestess out when I had 2 Roaches so I had to take into account the damage lost with having to sac a Roach to get rid of her.
>>160732061
>>160732130
Don't listen to him, Vampy is a top pick in arena. She's a fine on curve play with a good evolve effect, and if you can actually get some bats you get a nice bonus.
>>160731812
I run control sword and just fought dshift then, he had to use his evolves on his flame destroyers on turns 5 to 7 because of my slow powercreep and I ended up slaying them with tsubaki and ruthless assassins feels preddy gud but god it's so awkward when we just skip turns for the first 3-4 because were trying to find a mob to put down that is considered fodder
Friendly reminder.
Best Girl: Luna
High Tier: Isabelle, Arisa
Good Tier: Vania, Eris
Meh Tier: Erika
Shit: Forte
>>160732264
Reverse your entire list and I agree with you.
>>160732092
>dusting animated
>dusting LotF, Seraph
pls no, don't do that.
but i'm wondering, you did all the possible starter quests and so on?
>>160731539
>>160731868
this. your golds are great
vania is very important in blood and you have two. you also have azazel for blood memes
liza, garuda, white paladin, spirit cycle, death's breath, ceridwen, fire chain, and leonidas are all good/great golds for the other crafts
your legendaries are decent and bloody mary is great for blood. maybe save the roll by linking it to a new facebook account and saving the login info. if you don't reroll anything better you could just use this
>>160732264
Here's your (you)
>>160732343
>forte
>best girl
>>160731550
>>160731619
are those 3 my only options? i read about them but i just want to know what else can i do, i kind of wanted to go shadowcraft because muh undeads but i didnt get much of them so im kinda lost here
>>160731934
Actually, is there any mental maths "cheats" you can use to quickly calculate Roach combo?
>>160732264
>Erika and Forte being the worst 2.
Terrible list senpai.
>>160732514
Roach damage = amount of cards played +1, or total cards played including the roach itself.
>>160731845
>dub is good
You're dub cannot even compare to this.
https://a.pomf.cat/cpcbkg.mp3
>>160732425
if you don't have the following for shadowcraft
Cerebus
Lord of the Flies
Soul cycle (This one is more opinion)
then you're probably dead in the water. Those three cards are largely my victory condition in my games
whats the highest value pack you have ever got?
5220 vials here.
>tfw I was one turn away from being D-shifted
>>160728159
>>160728312
Erika is a bian!
Memes
>>160732654
>Get 2 legos in 1 pack one time
>Excited
>One's fucking Pluto
>>160720278
Alright
If I hadn't skipped turn 4 and 5 in the last game maybe I could have gone 4-1 but what can I do if I draw all my 6+ cards in the first 3 turns
>>160731975
>>160732061
>>160732202
I think there's a reason why they rate blood as tier 4 in both probability to get 5-0 and beginner friendly.
>pro: Have lots of aoe options
>con: cannot get 2-for-1 most of the time
>>160730829
they are not symmetrical
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>160732347
like just the 35 packs or whatever for installing? yes, other than that no
is it worth it to replay the stories modes in JP if I already did them in english?
>>160732775
>Much later
>After a very long drought of terrible packs
>Wow, 2 legos!
>One's fucking Pluto
>>160732834
Only to get the actual script instead of the butchered english version. If you can understand nip, that is.
>get to A rank
>havent gone up a single point
What happened to all my win streaks and good draws
>>160732808
You're going to want to at least do some solo quests. Story isn't complete shit and it's a good way to test out archetypes before fully committing.
>>160732348
thanks for the help, i think ill stick with the account because its decent and i cant be bothered rerolling
any cards i should focus on getting for blood, and any other class decks i can focus on with my other cards?
>>160732776
>It's literally the same 3 classes again
Fucking rigged
Pick one I guess
>>160732959
Sword, stupid.
Can floodgates work in a class based card game?
>>160732852
Pluto can be good, she's like Odin (minus banish and amulet) but gains much more from it
She's just not that good in current meta, but I'd keep her
>Missions
>20g
>20g
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>160732959
sword if you want to go 5-0
>>160732514
>>160732617
1 Roach: Count your mana, substract 1 = Your damage
1 Roach, 1 Guidance: Subtract 5 from current mana. With remaining mana, double it and add 4 = Your damage
2 Roaches: Subtract 4 from current mana. With remaining mana, double it and add 3 = Your damage
The rest is way more uncommon and not worth remembering. This is assuming you're using entirely 1 mana cards (which you pretty much always will be).
Which Craft should I run with these leggos
>>160733013
Yeah I'm not complaining about getting legendaries it's just the fact that I have four (4) now when I could be getting various other things that will actually make Shadow playable for me
>>160732983
>>160733027
What's that you say? Blood again?
Alright I can do that
>>160732959
>not happy with getting sword
>when one has told him which has better odds to get 5-0 in previous thread
How to be a bitch 101.pdf
>>160733080
nice legos
you could go for dragon/shadow/sword
>>160731436
>>160732425
legendaries:
tia - fucking amazing in forest, but forest decks are expensive
bloody mary - good in blood
alexander - good for control sword, but that deck is expensive
aurelia - good for control sword as well
lucifer - good for a variety of midrange/control decks
jeanne - awful, unfortunately
golds: homecoming can be liquefied for full value (800 values) due to a recent nerf
overall I'd say reroll unless you're really interested in playing control sword, which is the most expensive meta deck to build right now and will take you 1-2 weeks to make.
cheaper decks that are still very strong are haven, aggro blood, aggro dragon, and aggro shadow decks
go to the gamepress reroll page for an idea of good legends/golds for each craft
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/rerolling-guide
>people in this thread actually asking for ways to quickly calculate roach damage
forest players everyone
>>160733012
>see yu-gi-oh some odd formats ago
I don't even know what the current format is like, but I can tell you this. They're absolute cancer. Just cancer all way. It's because you either have an out to the floodgate(s), or you lose hard.
>>160733068
Oh and never go 2x Roach, Bounce, Roach. Its more damage to go Roach, Bounce, 2x Roach.
>>160733012
floodgates such as vanity's and skill drain? No.
floodgates are literally an instawin and the only 'counterplay' avaliable is often to have an answer or you just lose.
>>160733204
exactly my thoughts
Beginner here, should I be keeping my rupies for some reason or spend it all on Take Two tickets?
>>160733214
>>160733236
So is it safe to say the game will never get that fast?
>>160733204
Is your picture an upset Dshift player?
>>160733214
>some off formats ago
Try right now. The game is literally about creating an unbreakable board for one turn so you can swing for 8000 damage.
>>160732264
>getting your list in reverse
what a newbie blunder anon
How does every forest player have two mays in the first 4 turns? Pretty interesting
https://u.nya.is/lstygs.mp3
>>160733283
Read the cheatsheet, learn to play take 2 and get the most out of your rupees
I'm sorry my daughters but this is for the greater good
>>160733204
>Too smart to play non-forest decks
>>160733204
>>160733269
What's wrong with that? Taking 5 seconds to find lethal means less agony for you
>>160733283
If you have some experience in hurtstone, Take Two will be a better choice since you will be gaining packs while spending minuscule amount of rupies.
>has been doing 10+ take two runs for the weekend
>still sitting on the amount of rupies I have started with
>>160733340
>>160732343
>>160732526
Erika is shit
both dumb and a dyke
>>160732425
>>160731436
You have a Tia and 2 Lizas needed for a Tempo Forest deck. The closest deck you have is a control Sword deck with 2 Alexanders and an Aurelia. You have none of the staple legendaries needed for Shadow and both of the previous decks I listed are very expensive. I would reroll if I were you and try to shoot for 2 Cerberus at least or liquefy all your legendaries so you can construct your deck (not recommended).
>>160733326
I decided to stay the fuck away from that game around the time of EMEme and Monarchs, so like I said I don't even know shit about the current format.
How high up the ladder can get with banner sword?
>>160733426
>too
>>160733443
What's wrong with that is it's not difficult to quickly calculate roach damage.
If you passed elementary school, you should be able to do the math.
>>160733468
You can get up to anywhere with a deck provided it's T2 and you grind enough games. Probably easier with midrange sword tho
>>160733358
Mulligan :^)
>>160733134
post the 1-4 results
>>160733134
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/6?hash=2.6.63fr4.5_pF2.63frE.63frE.67RXW.67RXW.63e74.63e74.67SGY.67SGY.67Uie.61O4K.63dPc.63frO.67RXC.65BUc.5_rhS.5_rhS.63dPS.63kj6.67RXq.67RXq.67RXq.6592C.67RXM.61SDo.5_rhI.65Dwi.65GMo.65GMo
This one is a bit more to my liking but I dunno
>>160733315
You never know. It seems extremely unlikely though seeing that the designers are MTG Pros with real acheivements unlike Hurtstone and Yugioh.
They seem to care about the state of their game, seeing that in DE, they pushed Haven, the weakest class and before expansion, hit the top deck twice without gutting it.
>>160733413
>why can't I hold all those breads
Unica a cute
Am I the only one who avoids playing Sword and Shadow in take-two? I just find them so boring to play and I perform better with other classes. Shadow I especially dislike playing, though they're also just my least favorite class overall.
Am I an arena contrarian?
>>160733134
Last time I had Olivia and Beast Dominator in take-two I went 5-0. Just saying.
If I'm new to the game which packs should I buy?
Why are you guys doing T2
Darkness packs are fucking shit
>>160733358
I wish I was like every forest player then because when I mull I get 2 Ancient Elves or 2 Elven Princess Mages.
>>160733541
Just play the game, pretender of retard. No one cares about you being a rebel.
>>160733602
GVG
>>160733454
Luna is straight up autisticly retarded.
Like actual borderline retardation.
Isabelle is just a cock hungry whore who refuses to live her own life and chases after the one dick she had in her life.
Your list is shit
>>160733623
Because its a fun change of pace and I don't really need legendaries for decks anymore, senpai.
>>160733501
Its not about correctly calculating it fucking anyone can do it, its about doing it very very quickly.
>>160733623
No incentive to grind masters. Grinding dust and gold until the expansion hits
>>160733623
>he doesn't want to stock on arias and garudas for the inevitable nerf
The better question here is why you are not playing it.
>>160732958
you can immediately start building towards an aggro bats blood deck, here's a basic list
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/aggro-bat-bloodcraft-gamepress
note that gamepress decklists are only beginner guides and some aren't that optimal. for example, most players agree that wind god isn't that great in bats. midnight vampire is also arguably not that strong.
some alternatives to those cards are demonic strike and imp lancer, they're much better at closing off a game. since you've got bloody mary, you can put her in for razory claw, ambling wraith, and blood wolf shenanigans as well.
>any other class decks i can focus on
aggro shadow and midrange shadow are fun decks which you have some cards for, you can look those up
since you have a garuda you can also try building towards storm haven. it's a cheap and very powerful deck this meta, and everyone you meet will say its undeniably cancer
explore the gamepress decklists to get more ideas
>>160733623
deadstone refugees
>>160733623
>He doesn't go 5-0 every T2 and generate positive income and literally free packs
>>160733623
>Fucking shit
>Every deck has DE golds at least
I see lots of people arguing that DShift should be nerfed to make actual control decks playable, and I agree to some degree.
However any nerf to DShift's combo speed (for example, increasing DShift cost to 20) MUST be accompanied with better control tools for rune too. This game is already chock full of direct damage tools that make it unfeasible for DShift Rune to last for long against any deck. Rune's defensive tools were designed assuming that Rune would either have played combo or died by turn 9-10. If DShift gets nerfed, they better give Rune something like '3 mana, summon a Guardian Golem and draw a card'.
>>160733786
this is super helpful i really appreciate it
last question i have is which packs should i buy?
>>160733975
I'd very much like dshift to have its cost increased and rune to get better low end removal that improves their aggro match ups.
>9 days left
They better give me Unica sleeve or I'll riot.
>>160734072
If you want a blood deck, open DE because you need those Vanias and Fortress.
>>160733975
>>160734073
What if they added a card like this.
I'm fine with a direct nerf to d shift, but upon release this card made freeze mage (HS equivalent to dshift) much harder to play with.
>>160734072
You should be getting DE packs to get a playset of Vampiric Fortresses. You probably can liquefy a few crap legendaries and golds for your last Vania. You also get the added bonus of chances at Bloody Marys if you want to make a Control Blood deck.
>>160734143
Vania is in Standard.
>>160733975
If they nerfed DS they'd have to nerf PtP too. Honestly nerfing any of the faster control decks means you gotta nerf a lot of stuff with it. It'd probably be easier to just buff the other control decks.
>>160733524
I face too many Haven players on ladder to play mid.
>>160734217
As bad as freeze is at least it has counterplay. You can tech in anti-secret cards and add healing.
You can't tech in anything to stop dshift.
>>160734232
>Vania is in Standard.
>>160734252
which means you'd have to buff aggro
it's a slippery slope.
>>160734232
>a few crap legendaries or golds
I should say either 4 crap golds or one crap legendary.
>>160733167
>>160733458
thanks for the answers, im that kind of retard that never liked the idea of rerolling and wants to learn things the hard way so ill see what can i do from now on
>>160734217
forgot pic
>>160734290
you dont think loatheb would have any counterplay to dshift? especially since you could have 3 of him in SV
>Dragonewt Chorlette
>Swordcraft
que?
>>160734270
What. I grinded to masters with mid farming haven and elves
>>160734232
>vania is in standard
I'm sorry, dummy, but your loli is in another fortress.
>>160734394
How the fuck do I beat Elana with mid?
>>160734401
Hard anal.
>>160734232
vania is in DE, my dude
>>160734072
DE will get you a third vania and vampiric fortresses, as well as more garudas for haven
but standard contains more core cards for every craft, so it depends on your priorities
you can find out which set the cards you need belong to by searching for them on the shadowverse portal
https://shadowverse-portal.com/cards
most people will say buy standard packs and craft DE cards if you're in it for the long run of playing all crafts, so you could do that or consider which cards you want the most and buy packs for those
>>160734418
The faster list with mentor's teachers, DOD and 3 alwida's
If you think I'm shitting you this is my winrate at master's 0 points. 639 wins to 50000 points
>>160734493
Give list. I'll post the one I'm using after the game I'm in ends. Elana ruins my life.
>>160734376
I feel like they fucked up the notes on that card and gave it Sword.
>>160734401
>>160734312
>>160734475
>Vania is in DE
Aw fuck me
>>160734356
3 lothabes would break dshift.
But only because blizzard overstated him too much making him lose no tempo for the effect.
But something like it could be nice.
>>160734356
A card like that would only create the new ridiculous sub-game where decks have to run with it in mind or die. That introduces a new cancer at least as bad as the one it's trying to cure.
>>160734493
https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/article/show/45023
This one's great. I used 2 DOD instead of wind god for a while but having a turn 5 evolve going first is great at rushing runecraft and racing storm. What rank are you at again
>>160734394
>>160734493
>>160734537
Here's my least. Can't fight Elana for shit. 3 Alwida are the offscreen card.
>>160734356
>>160734590
>>160734605
You guys are thinking of making one fit-all counter for every deck
What's wrong with making a card exclusive to every archetype that works in a different way or different stats?
>>160734493
>mentor's teaching
Why do you, a master, use that shitty card? That and Avant Blader are bad cards.
>>160734794
Come back when your calls on card value are masters level
>>160734794
lol
>>160734794
Why do people still post the "Avant Blader is bad" meme?
>>160734232
>>160734143
>>160734475
i think ill just open some DE and try and get vania and the others,
then go standard for queen vamp and core cards
again thanks for the help everyone, this general is pretty cool
>>160734794
>Card drawing cards are bad
How the fuck is forbidden ritual balanced
>tfw you play and evolve Leonidas and hear that VA
>>160734915
Better question:
How bad at card games do you have to be to even consider the possibility that Avant Blader is bad?
>>160734956
Considering no one plays it, I'd say just by being not good enough
I swear to God if I fight another Elana Haven...
>>160734915
Well it's a meme
if people didn't post it, then it wouldn't be a meme, would it?
>>160734770
Are you mulling right? It's also a pile of micro-decisions which matter such as maximizing damage and making the best out of your evolves and shit
You're going first, there's a 4/x radiance angel which evolved and some shit, you drop otomeme you leave it there because the only real way that board's getting cleared is themis. Gotta make the most out of your evolve points in pushing damage and hope they don't themis you 3 times in the top 17 cards(happened once. I died a little inside)
You have a 2/1 on board on turn 4, you can evolve fencer to trade into say a mainyu/rabbit. You evolve fencer and do nothing while your 2/1 trades into rabbit since he can't cudgel you
Something like that yeah. Not very intuitive I guess
>>160734794
Cycles, pushes damage and helps fill up the curve I'm missing sometimes. In slower metagames where I don't need to punish runecraft/elana's I'd fill it with avant bladers to refill my hand but fuck that card it's too slow right now
>>160734956
It only works if your opponent is playing aggro. Death Sentence is more relevant.
Card reveals when?
>>160734793
Nothing's inherently wrong with niche cards, the problem is that Loatheb in question is just poorly designed regardless of how it'd stated for another game. It doesn't introduce a strategy, any options, or counterplay. It's just an answer that goes hard or goes dead in a game that can't support a side-deck and would most likely be completely unplayable or meta-warping.
>>160733975
I still haven't seen any decklists or substantial arguments on why a metagame without PtP/Dshift/seraph would be any better.
>>160734994
When he thinks Conscription is a better card? Of course, can't take a sandbagger's opinion too seriously.
>>160735157
monthly score rewards
rest in peace dragon man
>>160735048
I probably just need to get good. It doesn't help that I get frustrated easily.
>>160735048
Keep fencer going second, aurelia going first if facing aggro/elves. Keep otomeme going first against elana's/elves if you have a curve going or can't see maid leaders
Do nothing turn 4 going first against mirror, clear the board. Don't you ever get 2for1ed by a fencer like a fucking amateur. Keep aurelia going first
>>160735157
Rewards, dude. Sleeves and avatars that are limited to a month.
And Take Two is an efficient way to collect rupies while filling your collection, so I don't get your problem. A session only took me 30 minutes at most.
Oba-chaaaaaan~
>>160735220
Elves haven't been a problem. I've just been milling to stay on curve.
>>160735175
People should have to reach at least AA0 before they get to talk about how good or bad cards are
>>160734349
that's totally cool, I didn't start with a super incredible roll either but I still have multiple meta decks now anyway
just take it slow and start building some low cost yet strong decks, good places to start for players without many vials are banner sword, aggro blood, storm haven, and elana haven
slowly clear your way through the story. once you have a good deck you're confident with, beat the Elite AIs in practice mode for 200 gold per unique AI (once only). do all 3 missions daily and build your collection. you'll have good decks in no time
>>160734918
no problem my man
>>160735048
>themis 3 times
There was one time where I thought the coast is clear when I forced a Urias to use Revelation.
Then he used another.
>>160731007
Why would you PAY to play haven?
>>160735326
You go first with vanguard 1/2 and pretty much the game is 70-80% yours unless they pull off the nutdraw t4t5 princess>tia
Keep otomeme going first against elves. Just don't ever get blown out by an ancient elf. Let me know if you have problems with any other matchups
>A lewd water fairy invites you to her pool
How do you respond?
>He let Mushussu get to 10 attack
I didn't have to end this way
So, have you ever made a D-Shift player deck out in ranked before? It's not even fun. It just goes to show how little you can do against them if you run control
>>160735201
Anon my you share you deck with me? I'm much interested.
>>160733531
>>160733640
Thanks anon your support means a lot to me
next time I won't draw all my early game and no card worth more than 4 in the first 13 cards and make you proud by going 5-0
>>160735479
>winning
>not fun
>in a competitive game
Go back to minecraft dweeb
>>160735473
Watch
You're
Back
When
Beside
Elves
>>160735434
Also yeah, hedge your damage by evolving your 1/1s out of angel snipe range or sylvan justice range.
Evolve a remaining 2/2 knight instead of the 3/2 alvida's against certain matchups. Against AOE like calamitious evolve a huge dude instead etc. You have to make a read on the matchup within the first 2 turns
>>160735585
It doesn't feel like you win. It feels like you just managed to not lose
>>160735319
mitte ne ~
>>160735475
>Goblin, Neptune, and Shen Long
What kind of hot fresh memeing is going on here? Why would you play goblin in anything but a face deck?
Why is Runecraft allowed to be so shit
>>160735473
cum in her pool and leave
>>160735475
>Shenlong
>>160735278
You only need to get to 12000 for both sets of sleeves and avatars.
A new player can get 4 wins per day while doing dailies and reach 12000 over the month while slowly climbing in rank.
That's what i'm doing. It will take me a long time to get to master but there is no incentive to get there and once you do you can't lose it. As long as you play and are not retarded you will eventually reach master.
>>160735808
I think I'm too braindead to ever reach master.
>>160735630
Maybe you should have some real wincons in your deck like dshift that win you the game instead of just "making you not lose"
>>160735528
Can switch some stuff around, win conditions are usually midnight haunt into tyrant or PtP for 2 turns, be careful about execution cause it's pretty much gg then.
>>160735479
I've milled myself with shift a couple times. It's not rocket science but very rare. Shift needs to be super unlucky to draw its winconditions at awkward and seperate times and then be forced into using destroyers and shifts seperately to avoid lethal throughout the game.
>>160735630
The entire control archetype in any half serious cardgame is about winning by not losing. Decisions are supposed to be more than hitting face for lethal.
>>160735473
It's obviously a trap. The three bodybuilders have to go. Then I'll reconsider.
>>160735883
thanks!
>>160735797
>>160735750
I'm pretty sure the dude's playing a draft deck, the opponent's running some weird shit too.
>>160735781
>Desecrating a fairy's home
Wow
>>160736013
But there's nothing wrong with that. They aren't humans, so it's OK. She could have you for stew as shown here. >>160735592
AHHHHHHHHH
>>160736123
Winning as Dragon in unranked is easy though?
>>160736123
Just roll the one you dislike most and move on.
>he doesn't have either classes
And I thought you people love zombies, vampires (non-sparkling type, of course) and dragons.
How am I doing, guys?
>>160736201
>>160736220
I'm more or less raging because it's 3x 20
>>160735851
Like I said there is no incentive to get to master. As long as you are having fun it is fine if you never reach it.
>>160735959
>The entire control archetype in any half serious cardgame is about winning by not losing.
I can agree with that but when played well you don't feel like you didn't lose. You instead feel like all your opponents decisions and actions were meaningless as you had forseen them coming as you had control all along. Reason why control is called control.
>>160736243
better than me, keep up the good work
>>160736354
No, Anon. You don't understand. Not reaching master is unacceptable.
Mill decks when?
When they ragequit
>>160735278
Where do you see the montly awards?
>>160736376
Swordcraft is pretty fun, but I first got into Dragon and mostly play Dragon/Shadow a bit now. Shadow is just suffering when you get matched against Haven. You can win, but it's a brutal uphill march through mud.
>>160736243
It's that time? Post them I guess.
>>160735350
Can you get tie if you both get hit by revelation and die at the same time?
>>160736423
Selfmill is already an archetype and milling is very hard to balance right
>>160736123
>tfw
thankfully this only happens very rarely>tfw the reroll ended up being a 30g mission
>>160736554
you're mixing up your cards, but any self damage during your turn counts as a loss, there is no tie.
>>160736624
Do I see gems. You're not a true merchant
>>160736243
my meme decks keep failing me
Does anyone know of any good guides/tips for ptp forestcraft? I just got my friend into playing and she pulled 2 tias and a ptp from her packs so i had her construct the deck. Im having problems teaching her how to make the deck work because Ive never played it before and she seems to be complaining about getting shitty hands.
The decklist is a netdeck of a tournament-winning build in Japan, if that helps.
>>160736501
Thanks for the words of encouragement bro.
>>160736464
Wow, you played storm minions on board and hit face.
Truly this victory is one for the record books.
>>160736464
I don't know why it's so hard for people to concede.
>>160736678
Do you hate dragons?
>>160736724
Thanks, I appreciate it :)
>>160736691
>I got a female friend to play the hardest deck in the game
>>160736708
I believe in you, anon!
>>160736691
Okay, ALWAYS keep altered fate unless it's aggro. You generally want to keep
1. Ancient Elf(top priority)
2. Fairy Circle/Fairy Whisper
3. May/Sylvan against sword/elves and decks you predict will get ping value from
Going second keep princess(and Tia too). Don't be afraid to use roaches as removal. Fill your hand, dump them with altered fates etc. Bait kids in with will of the forest. Pray you draw fairy beast against aggro
Deck isn't immediately intuitive and requires a hard read on the opponent. It's not a beginner's deck to be fair
What the fuck do I play if I just want to have a good match up against Haven at the cost of everything else? I'm crazy mad right now playing against it. Pinion into Aria into Dogma into Cudgel, fuck.
>>160736757
Not really, I just can't seem to draw any fafnirs and Face dragon seems pretty boring from when I play it for my dailies.
The one time I made a flute deck I went on a terrible 5-0 loss streak though!
>>160736243
I'm going to break 1k wins before I get to Master.
This is what happens when you can't stick with a deck
>>160736678
The most important thing is to have fun, anon!
>>160736243
I think it's 10 wins with Forest next.
>>160736678
My comrade
>>160736243
Great.
I'm still a shitter at this game.
>cute Erika is my favorite voice in the game
>she's always in angry turbodyke mode instead
IT'S NOT FAIR
I run moon bunny in elana just to see how big I can get her.
>>160736243
Luna gives me the strength to carry on.
>>160736964
I really, really like your OCD, anon.
>>160737045
>More runecraft games
Filth
>he kaleido's your evolved 1 mana
Unica.
>>160736734
Force-quitting the app and re-queing is faster than the long ass concede animation and screen.
>>160736243
Pretty good anon. It's a ton of Elana for the next few ranks though, so be prepared.
>>160736964
>taker of two
>those neat and tidy win graphs
>trips rupies
you sexy beast
>>160736243
(´・ω・`)
>>160737006
At least you have the official channel videos.
>>160737109
You have to understand that when I first started playing I only had good cards for runecraft. I really do love Luna!
>>160737165
Speaking of that, when does Elana's wild ride end anywaysthe ride never ends does it
>>160736964
>Haven with the most wins
Go sit in the corner.
>>160737239
Soonâ„¢
>>160737141
That's nine holes that need to be filled all at the same time.
>>160737224
You're used goods. Luna deserves better
>>160736970
God im so sad rine gone got taken off youtube
>sacred prayer
>beastcaller aria
>elana's prayer
>priest of the cudgel
>>160737141
>he has three Unica's in his deck
>in a Shadowcraft deck
For what purpose
>>160737239
AA0. People play a lot of DShift to shut them down so they're not that common.
So instead you get 40% DShift, 40% Sprint Haven, and then some Sword, Forest, and other aggro decks
>>160737308
So he can complain about other decks when he loses.
>>160737284
Make it +1/+0 and I would be fine with it.
>>160737239
At A3, I suddenly see a bunch more Forest than before, but it's still mostly Elana with others spiced in.Playing Control Blood in this meta is stressful as fuck, because the deck beats mono-Elana pretty solidly by getting good Revelation value then mounting an offensive, but if you're fighting Hybrid Elana-Seraph and they play an early Seraph then you never really have the time to play that slow. Fortunately every MU that isn't Seraph or DShift is plenty doable for the deck.
>>160736964
>>160737174
Sometimes when I get a shit draft, I think to myself that at least I have a chance of getting 5 gold for 1 or 2 wins to cancel that out.
I have problems.
>>160737243
Sorry anon, I am tryharding to AA0 so that I can play some ranked Shadow without worrying about points.
>1 match away from ranking up
>"I guess I'll stop when I rank up"
>lose 3 matches in a row
Every fucking time.
>>160736243
Haven't been ranking much since take two is too much fun. I need to get those played classes other than Shadow to 50 one of these days.
>>160737308
It's probably control shadow. Unica is a good 2 drop in control decks since the healing can come into play and it makes her a target for aggressive decks as opposed to just hitting face, incentivizing them to trade their 2 drop.
>>160737308
What, you gay or something?
>>160737308
She's considerable if you don't need dark conjurer or the mummy. Nothing like a slap to that Banner deck when you drop Unica on his quickblader.
>>160737006
>Charmed~
>>160736935
The philosopher stone flair looks dope
>>160736973
Keep on trucking birdbro, you're doing great
>>160736243
Recent convert from Dshift Rune to Tempo Forest here. I am liking the fact that I don't have to wait until I lose for some matchups, but it still gets a bit frustrating when I don't have Lizas for Rune or Roach to finish off Elana Haven.
Dunno if it's been posted yet or not, but the commercial is now on Nico
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30086906
>>160737296
Man, this zambie girl would have been so much better leader, than this infantile abomination we are currently having right now
https://shadowverse.jp/news/wp-content/uploads/1057ef4a7828cc15cc50e0285d84eb7c.mp3?_=1
>>160736243
I feel like I have too many wins for my rank
>>160737296
Why is this allowed
>>160736416
I'll care when cygames gives me a reason to care.
So far the game has provided no incentive to do anything besides the dailies
I need 2 more Forte. Should I liquefy everything to get them?
>>160737308
Trading 1 shadow for ward and a half-Lucifer effect is pretty good. Fuck Sergeant.
Not to mention Unica's almost as cute as Bellringer.
>>160737615
I wish a cute girl would wink at me.
>>160730768
Treat your elf with care and respect
>>160737753
Yes
>>160737571
>Hare of illusions
What rank are you in? Also, what deck is that guy running
>>160736243
>0 haven
>flies
You're an alright guy.
>>160737709
You are low-tier
>coolandcasual
>>160737753
Keep the Olivias, they're useful in just about every class. Other than that, yes
>>160737669
>hating on Luna
No bully
>>160737753
You can safely liquefy the Zirnitras, Beast Dom, and Rose Queen for one Forte. The only issue is if they somehow get buffed when the new expansion gets released in the near future. The rest of the legendaries are useful in Dshift Rune and Control decks so I am a little more hesitant to recommend liquefying. Doesn't hurt to keep your options open.
Can I get some help?
84365
If I play a storm and attack, then I play urd and target the storm, can it attack again?
>>160737736
I kinda like that though, the game is great for clearing dailies and then having small sessions throughout the day
There's no awful urgency to rush to the end, its just chill and enjoyable
>>160738075
Yes. Its why Urd is run in Storm Haven.
>>160738075
FUCK URD I GOT HIT FOR 9 ON TURN 7 BY A FUCKING FALCON THANKS TO HER. I WAS DOING FINE UNTIL THEN TOO.
>>160738040
Thanks whoever you are
>>160737736
I miss the days when people just played games they enjoyed playing and wanted to get good to be the best.
Now it's all about grinding irrelevant rewards and there is no reason to get good unless you get a pat on the head when you do.
>>160737736
I play the game because it's fun.
If you need an incentive, you're not playing the game, the game is playing you.
>>160738075
yes, as long as storm is a baseline ability and not a fanfare effect. because urd doesn't re-trigger fanfares.
>>160738160
I personally think that if I ever grinded myself to Masters, its to earn the right to put down shitty people who boast about how they know much more than they truly do
Why does this card exist? I'm hard pressed to think of a way it could be worse.
>>160738273
Who is this boobie dragon on the picture?
>>160736243
It's me the guy with no decks
Cygames please make dirtrune tier 1 next expansion
>>160737852
I want her to step on me
>>160738356
I might consider cuddling her. It's cold.
>>160738324
It could activate at the start of your turn instead
>>160738326
forte, the dorky dragoon
id appreciate a quick concede
36247
>>160738324
Sword with Front Lines clogging up their Gold rarity.
>>160736501
58532
Can a nigga help me out?
>>160738565
I'll do it for a blowjob.
>>160738383
>>160738356
I want to warm her up by pumping my mayonnaise deep inside her body
>Losaria is fully animated and voiced as a leader during the tutorial
>Can't unlock/buy her
???
>>160738565
Thanks Vampy-chan
>>160738613
That does sound nice.
>>160738627
She'll totally make her purchasable later on
What's the best deck to climb B and A rank with?
Is Vampy-chana slut?
>>160738787
The one you have most fun with.Or haven if you're legally retarded.
>late game, board is empty, have only Counsel and another card in hand
>fuck it what do I have to lose
>use Counsel
>draw Conflagration, Olivia and Lucifer
>>160738787
Just banner sword.
Even the cheapest budget decks can carry you till A0.
>>160738881
Banner can carry you to Master
>>160738838
She's a technical virgin
>>160738627
>wanting to play as that loser Losaria who got ahegao'd by shades until she transformed into Nexus
what a pleb
>DShift Runecraft is now Tier 3
>Every ranked match is against a storm raven, face dragon, or sword/blood aggro
>Haven't won a single match in 2 hours
Maybe I should just go on hiatus until Rune isn't garbage. I just wanted to play as a wizard damn it
How does take two matchmaking work? Is it like Hearthstone? Went 5-0 in my second run ever and then got rekt and went 1-4 with similar quality decks.
>>160738961
The fun police are in full force this meta
>>160738954
>All the shades turned into futa Arisa shades beforehand
Doujins when
>playing PTP forest
>last two opponents were Face Dragon who dropped two Deathmists and a DShift Rune
>still beat them both
Arisa truly is an overpowered cinnamon roll too good for this world.
>>160738954
>Not playing a variant of Nexus's atomeme-deck with garuda storm amulets, quickbladers, dire wolves and fortes.
Git gud.
>play first as Forestcraft in take two
>opponent played Golliath and Evo-killed a fairy (5/5)
>I have a Yuel in hand complete with 3 Fairies
So what's the proper play here? I lost all my tempo because Forestcraft doesn't have good statted followers early on.
>>160736873
Play bats
Need a concede: 61791
>>160739105
He's probably going to play Updog, you should play around it honestly.
I fast forwarded through all the lore
Is there anything important to know?
>Have lethal, know I have lethal
>Decide to play Altered Fate because I might topdeck a purgatory and finish with style
>Lose game
I ONLY REGRET IT A LITTLE BIT.
Is it too late to try to get into SV?
>>160739181
>lore
lol
>>160738954
>>160739025
>tfw you will never mindbreak Losaria together with 50 of your shadebros
why live
>>160739181
Haven slut is a bitch and everybody gets sucked into the plot device.
>>160739220
No, it's been out for less than a year and it takes less than a week to make a decent deck.
>>160739220
No it's not. It's so much easier to get into than Hearthstone since they give you so much for free when you start. I've managed to climb the ladder to rank B and I haven't spent a cent
>>160739181
Erika is an idiot
Balthazar is Urias' Waifu
Rowen is a dragon and teamkiller
Isabelle really likes her dead boyfriend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4kAMFuRFG0
>Cygames putting dank memes in their commercials
>>160739220
no, it's a great time to get into SV
devs are generous and they throw packs at you, you get 3 missions a day that shit out gold and packs, lots of free arena tickets, and decks are cheaper to make than hearthstone
>>160739151
Thanks Donal ''Golly'' Trump!
>>160739301
>>160739332
>>160739428
Is the game going to live longer than a month or two?
Runecraft legendary, 4 mana amulet / Earth Sigil
Effect: whenever an allied Earth Sigil comes into play, destroy it. Also, Last Word: Resummon this amulet.
Basically an infinte source of Earth Sigils for 4 mana. Would you play this? Would this make meme sigil decks consistent enough?
>>160739423
I want her to Ding my Dong
>>160739517
>4 mana do nothing
no ty
>>160739509
It's lived for about half a year and it's still growing. The company running it isn't a small indie company or some off-shoot, but it's actually a major company in Japan which already has several long running online titles.
Take your odds.
>>160739423
does anyone have a translation for this? I can't speak moon rune
They should just rename this game to Stormverse
>>160739663
Does it have cross platform multiplayer or am I better off playing on mobile where all the jap players are at?
How do I get rid of that stupid link device mission? No I'm not gonna give those fuckers my email.
>>160739517
Maybe 3 mana like Elana.
Then it would set up for turn 4 Remi/Rami.
>>160739710
Steam and mobile versions can play each other.
>>160739729
>He doesn't have a disposable email for games
>>160739509
That remains to be seen. I can certainly say that I have no intention of quitting anytime soon and I've been thoroughly enjoying it much more than Hearthstone. Plus, it seems to be gathering popularity on Twitch since a lot of big Hearthstone streamers have been plugging it.
>>160739710
Cross platform, global region.
>>160739664
why though
It's literally an ad
>>160739509
It's already dying
4k players on Steam and dropping
>>160739509
It's probably going to last for a long time. It's going very strong in Japan and Cygames is a huge company over there with a lot of spending power, they've shown they want to make this game succeed long term
They also have an extensive arsenal of established characters and story from their other game Granblue Fantasy, which is also pretty popular in Japan. So it's just like hearthstone with its warcraft lore, but with anime
>>160739832
Why not?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goiVNxeX624
>>160739840
>5 million downloads on playstore
>"it's dying guiz really"
Man you call that bait? There ain't even anything on the hook.
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
>>160739964
She just says that it's a fun game and then highlights the evolve mechanic before humiliating dragonman in national tv
>>160739710
all the JP players are already playing with us
you can play on Steam or on your phone, or both. it's all integrated and there's no separation of the playerbase
>>160739509
Flagship game by a flagship mobile dev with unified servers so there is literally no risk of your region getting axed.
I'd actually say it's a safer investment than Hearthstone.
>>160739990
It could have a billion downloads, that's not what matters. How many of those actually play it, that's the important stat.
>>160740029
>5 HP on turn 4
Teach me how to go fast senpai.
>>160740039
Non-steam player here. I have tried to link it, but the game blurts out something about only able to link to a single pc. Is this true?
>>160740125
Have your opponent play nothing
>>160740120
More than 4000 to be sure.
Steam will never be the main indication of how popular the game is. The game will always have a niche western audience but countless japs to slay.
>>160740125
It's really easy against Storm Haven since they're usually idiots that try to force their Aria combo even though the enemy has been hitting their face from turn 1.
>>160740107
Giving my money to the crackwhores is safer investment than Hearthstone.
>>160739509
The game got a really low playerbase in the west, but japs are crazy about it.
Here is a picture I stole from reddit shwoing differences in player count.
>>160738229
>>160738160
The game is fine. I'm just talking about the grind to master. Eventually everyone can reach it just playing normally. There is no incentive to grind for it.
Also I'm sticking to dailies so I do think get burned out. With only 2 sets out, there isn't very much variation. Same reason I took a break from eternal until the open beta started.
Then there is the idea that being in masters means you are good and know what your talking about. Like in >>160738316
Any idiot can get to masters if they play enough.
I wasn't very lucky with Legendaries
Which deck do I go for
>>160740247
Seraph
>>160739990
>>160740120
>oh no my casual grinding mobage has x number of players
Why is this important in any capacity?
>>160739840
>>160740120
>mobile game that's huge in Japan
>only recently released on Steam, numbers are rising not dropping
>devs are actively marketing it to twitch and through other channels
>lots of new content on the horizon
>rich company that wants their game to succeed
yeah sure buddy, fuck off back to dedstone general with your bait
Hoe does the score system for rewards work? Do you continuously accumulate points as long as you play ranked games or do they decrease if you if you go on long loo se streaks? Does the amount increase with your rank or is is the same regardless where you are?
>>160740038
>there's no one else I'd rather lose to!
Poor dragonman.
>>160740329
>>only recently released on Steam, numbers are rising not dropping
That's not actually true.
>>160740247
Seraph or Elana Seraph is probably your safest bet.
Especially since you have Lucifer too.
>>160740148
You can only link to a steam account once
After you link to a steam profile then you can't reroll on a phone/emulator and then get the code to link to that steam account anymore.
>>160740153
Yeah but I can't figure out how you got that much damage out so fast
Turn 1:I'LL LEAD THE CHARGE - 0 HP total
Turn 2 - LETS SPEED THINGS UP - 2 HP total
Turn 3 - 2/2 Storm Waifu - 6 HP total
Turn 4 - ??? 10 HP? What did you play to add 5 damage?
>>160738981
>>
pls respond
>>160740330
You don't lose points for score rewards, and it only goes up in ranked matches.
>>160740247
>not lucky with legendaries
I wouldn't say that. Tias, Bloody Mary, Seraphs are all centerpieces of certain decks. Forest is the strongest you can make, but you will need a set of 3 Ancient Elves and set of Rhinoceroaches and a set of either Lizas and Cynthias or PtPs and Altered Fates. Seraph deck would be the closest you especially if you have at least 2 of Themis Decree and a set of 3 Beastcall Arias. Control Blood which uses Bloody Mary is not worth it though.
>>160740454
I have a full set of Rhinoceroaches and Lizas. Isn't Forest still on the chopping block for nerfs though?
>>160740362
>>160740410
I just assume they match you with anyone in take 2 regardless of experience or take 2 games won.
>>160740404
>>160740494
Potentially, but so is Haven. In any case, any nerfed cards can be liquefied for price that it took to craft the card. I would at least hold onto them until the next expansion comes out to get full value from any likely nerfed cards.
>>160740546
Why did they talk about wanting to nerf Senpai's Headpats?
>>160740639
It was literally one anon pulling shit out of his arse.
Fuck Storm Haven.
FUCK
STORM
HAVEN
DING DONG DING DONG
>lost 2 games in a row
What the fuck man
>>160740362
Last month you were saying it was dying because it only had 600
>>160740546
DELETE THIS
>>160740494
Forest and Haven are the prime candidates, but they're both so good compared to the competition a nerf won't suddenly make them shit tier
>>160739769
the big streams were paid spots for the steam launch, nobody other than a few low level streamers are doing it now and i think most of them are just hopeful variety streamers seeing if they can get an audience from the game. if not they'll be moving on eventually
>>160740710
>They're both so good compared to the competition a nerf won't suddenly make them shit tier
Nerf Garuda and Aria and Haven will fall back to at least tier 2, if not 3. They are seriously being carried by those two cards so hard.
>Try to do quest
>ELF
>ELF
>ELF
>ELF
>>160740753
Just nerf Aria and leave Garuda alone and the class will be fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6oCACFHYOA&t=32s
My fucking sides.
>>160740824
Garuda needs it's FREE 3 FACE DAMAGE changed. I don't care if it's reduced or made conditional in some way but as is it's too much.
>>160740029
>defeating cancer with cancer
MOOOOOOOOOM!
>>160740824
Garuda is massively overstated.
>>160740865
Then Aria should go untouched in that case, which means Elana/Seraph isn't going to get affected in powerlevel either. We want Haven toned down, not killed.
>opponent plays their 7/7 into my evolved mordecai
He wasn't even losing the game
Why B0 players so garbage?
>ptp elf taunting in unranked
Congrats you beat a deck made out of what random blood cards I did have
>>160740753
I don't give a fuck about Garuda. Turn 2 Aria snowballs the game out of control for so many decks, Aria into Dogma puts out a 4/4 and a 2/1 Storm in fucking turn 3 at no disadvantage. Aria into anything is fucking ridiculous.
>>160740935
Anon, THEY BOTH NEED NERFS. If you think adding 1 countdown to Aria and changing Garuda's face damage to 2 would kill Haven, then that doesn't mean it shouldn't be done that means other Haven cards should be buffed.
>>160740909
>>160740865
Fuck Garuda, you wouldn't be in such bad shape if it wasn't for Beastcall in the first place
>>160740824
No fuck that stupid shitty bird.
Remove him from the goddamn fucking game. I want a Blizzard style nerf. I want Storm Haven to never see the light of day again.
Also Garuda is legitimately completely fucking overpowered.
>>160740751
Kripp is having another weekly Shadowverse stream on Thursday
Last week Kripp hosted a streamer for the first time ever, and it was a Shadowverse streamer because the company is slowly building the streamer base for this game
Yes the stream numbers are low now but the game is pretty fucking new, its growing and the company is showing they give a shit
So that's a lot more promising than Hearthstone which is in milk-their-current-players-dry mode where they don't care enough to fix shit and new players will have to pay a fuckton of money just to catch up
>dirt rune animal can't handle a loss in a favored match-up
why?
>>160740865
>assume that the face damage doesn't go off if there's no amulets to be pop
>I was wrong, and lost
>>160740935
No we definitely want Storm Haven at the very least to be killed. No one likes that deck. It's one of those decks that the game would just overall be a better experience without.
>>160741098
Delicious.
this deck was performing well until recently, but now I'm starting to run into trouble as I'm getting into the higher ranks
Any suggestions on what I should replace? The cut off card is mordecai
>>160741152
I don't. I'm not a Haven player but I want to see both Elana and Storm viable. Just not at their current power level. I'm not happy seeing whole deck archetypes killed because of feelings, or else we'd never see Dshift ever again for instance
>>160741221
Yeah, you should replacethe whole deck. Control Shadow sucks
>>160741231
>never see Dshift ever again for instance
That's a positive thing.
Outskilled
>>160741221
Do you really need double odin? Also get another Cereb.
>>160741231
>I'm not a Haven player but I want to see both Elana and Storm viable
You're not fooling anyone you know.
But seriously, Storm Haven is the worst kind of deck. It's cheap, it's really easy to play, it's very uninteractive thanks to the combination of storm and countdown amulets (which is a really shitty combination), and it's completely fucking overpowered.
>>160741278
I fucking hate playing against Dshift but it needs to exist to counter Control as well as prevent the game from devolving into Curvestone.
You know why Hearthstone is it the shithole its in now? Its because Blizzard nerfed all the interesting decks that made people cry tears of uninteractive. Now we got shamanstone where they're attempting to make every class be playing minions on curve.
>>160741384
I'm in favour of nerfing that fucking deck too, I don't want to see the enemy deck disappear.
Is Robin Hood supposed to be male or female?
>male description
>female voice
>>160741427
Dshift doesn't counter control, it renders control completely unviable
>>160741427
Dshift makes any deck that doesn't win by turn 8-9 not viable. With it gone something new may arise, some dragon deck for example.
>play against aggro
>don't draw aoe
>play against control
>draw aoe
end it please
>>160741427
I just don't want to see the entire deck disappear*
>>160741448
Trans.
>>160741474
>>160741494
Then they should add good tech cards for Control to tinker with like Loatheb or something to that extent.
Wanting to kill entire archetypes is really dangerous for the game
>>160741448
The localization team fucked up. His voice is blatantly male in the original. He's just a pretty boy.
>>160741448
male (female)
Is Apocalypse deck a meme?
How many of them can she take?
>Calamitous Teched Dshift
Holy shit
>>160741586
Quick blade is a quickie, so 4.
>>160741427
What I want is that Dimension Shift, the spell, has its cost increased.
But I want the deck itself to get better removal and better means to search Dimension Shift. Increase the consistency, improve the aggro match ups, but make it less of a roll over control decks. I'd like to see the overall win rate increase, but I want to see slow decks be playable in a meta where it's around.
I made a script to rename images from dumped card art link to actual card names instead of numbers.
http://pastebin.com/raw/MMi1JQh6
Save as rename.bat, put into same directory as images, run.
Token cards not renamed.
>Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
>https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI
>>160741570
I can actually beat dshift with Csword but it requires playing in a way that autoloses if it turns out they're playing any other rune deck and even then you still lose if dshift gets a good draw
we doing it
>>160741586
Otohime is the real gangbang queen
>>160741448
>dub
>>160741638
I don't think there is any matchup where that would be worth it.
Maybe midrange sword and earthrite.
>>160741427
>it needs to exist to counter Control
Haven needs to exist to counter Shadow.
Fuck balance.
I decided to do one more
Pick one
>>160741696
You do realize that the dshift player has to play like you were a banner meme deck too?
>>160741675
Sure, and that's reasonable. DShift will still exist as a viable archetype, keep its flavour and distinct playstyle as well as be less lopsided in its match ups. They should keep tinkering with the meta through new cards.
What's not reasonable is to want entire decks wiped out from the game because you're upset at them. Storm Haven and DShift might not be fun to play against, but neither is losing a long drawn out fight against Elana or getting your shit curved out by Otohime into Sage Commander. Its foolish to get rid of decks and limit player options because as a developer you're not bothered to give the playerbase more tools.
>>160741769
if it ran the standard earthrite walls then it can delay aggro enough to nuke them with it.
How are you going to Spellboost your combo though?
>>160741690
Well, here's v2 of script;
http://pastebin.com/DmhTjhEf
It does not not add "- Base" to cards without evolved version.
>>160741805
rune ;)
>>160741834
No Storm Haven is definitely just a shitty deck that no one likes and thus the game would be better off without it. It's all good and well to try and defend decks but some of them just need to be purged.
The problem is they can't release cheap amulet banish else the Haven class would just die, so the best thing to do would just be to cut Storm Haven out of the game. It's not a deck worth saving anyway
>Cudgel banishes Mini Soul Devil before it's anti-evolve tech happens
How the fuck is Haven balanced?
>>160741732
YAS!
we did it, /svg/!
>>160741805
Sword if you are a pussy
Rune if you are a man
Shadow if you are a degenerate
>>160741945
Shut up, Dragon Warrior is better in any way.:^)
>>160741945
As would Dragon Warrior, Sledgehammer Exorcist, Wardrobe Raider, and Demonflame Mage is she were at 1 health.
It's not a Cudgel thing, the evolve effect activates first. Nice try shitting on Haven though, good effort.
>>160741832
Oh no, dshift has to play like a control deck, as it does in every single matchup
>>160741941
Fine if you want to think that way, so be it. I'm just hoping Cygames has enough long term thinking to avoid nuking classes from orbit
>>160741998
>>160741945
>you will never be this mad
>>160742071
You will when your broken ass class gets nerfed down to tier C, cunt.
>>160741805
>Flat, normal or cowtits
Truly the decision of the century
>>160741690
>>160741934
this is really useful, nice!
thanks anon
>>160741938
>>160741968
I am not a man but we can play pretend tonight
>>160742053
I'm not calling for a Haven nuke. I actually like the class. It's nice to have a control class that can play a control game in a Hearthstone clone.
I just despise Storm Haven with every fiber of my being. Countdown amulets and storm are perhaps the stupidest mechanical combination in the game.
>>160742032
In the mirror and against Forest + Haven you play like a combo deck.
>>160742116
Then it can join the type of decks you build :^)
aggro bats is pretty good i guess
>>160742116
>waaaah nerf everything I don't like
>>160742171
I think what you are is fucked.
mai waifu
>>160740125
>I'ma just gonna drop a million amulets on the board against hyper aggro, I'm sure I'll be able to take board control back before they kill me
>Haven retard can 1 turn win at 9-10 by just having seraph+3 out of million amulet cdr things he has
>regardless of how shitty he did the whole game, regardless if he's dead next turn
Just delete this win condition. Same with Dshift. It should be impossible to completely ignore the game flow and win in 1 turn if YOUR OWN win condition, that the enemy can't do anything about, is met.
>>160742224
>Not showing your rank
>>160742171
He actually did it the absolute madman
>>160742224
>cropped out rank
>>160741834
The problem I have with DShift and the Haven decks isn't a matter of power level as much as I dislike their design and impact on the meta. Decks should be interactive, and while DShift at least interacts a lot with the player they're against, both DShift, Storm and Elana play a game where the opposite player doesn't have much to do against them except hope they draw poorly.
In the case of the Haven decks, they don't even have to interact much with the enemy on their side. It might be important to decide how to use Themis and Storm sometimes has to make a decision of where to go, but compared to straight aggro decks or other traditional control decks, the game they play is largely doing your best to ignore your opponent while getting cards on board.
Their winrate doesn't bother me but I think Rune and Haven need their power spread out in their kit. You'll rarely win a Haven match up where drop a 1pp and Aria, but you'll rarely lose one where they miss their first plays.
Forest and Sword are very powerful and consistent but for the most part, they play a straight game and you can tech with them in mind.
>>160742252
>>160742335
I will not betray your confidence
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/3?hash=2.3.5zWm2.65BUS.5-f_Y.62U8Y.62WbG.66NA2.5-gku.62UOA.66IXo.61KvW.61O4K.62U9A.62XK8.62UOU.62WqQ.62U8s.66IHi.66Kjo.62UOK.5-iS6.62U9e.66IIK.66PcI.62XJg.62U9o.66Kjy.62Zlw.62Z1C.66LS-.5-glM
>>160742326
>seraph+3
Seraph alone costs 8.
>>160742305
DEVOUR
>>160742176
I'm not a fan of classes having a single archetype either. Sword is my favourite class despite people somehow thinking I'm a havenshitter. Its my favourite because it has a powerful aggro, midrange and control deck. Sure it maybe be play on curve shit but there has to be decks like that too.
What if we get a neutral amulet banish cantrip in December? Storm Haven gets weaker but still exists as a viable archetype. I just want people to not be so short sighted as Blizzard has been in getting rid of entire archetypes deemed "unfun" or "uninteractive".
>>160742334
>>160742346
its just c2 right now :(
>>160742171
Whoever thought Arcane Enlightenment would be a good card much less a gold one? If you get it early you'll basically mill yourself on the turns you'll be able to play it. Not that it's any good when you get it later either.
>>160742326
>can't do anything about
You could, you know
Win
>>160742353
>Decks should be interactive
Says who?
what the fuck is "lamp dragon"
Aggro mirrors are the best.i topdecked a second razory claw and barely won
>>160742453
Flute
>>160742396
The problem with neutral amulet banish is that it would completely kill Haven, and that it wouldn't be feasible to run except in a Haven meta. It wouldn't just make Haven weaker, it would ruin them. It would make all amulets unviable.
For example, Dromoka's Command was everywhere in Magic's last standard, and because of it people didn't run many enchantments, as they'd just get hit by it. That's the whole problem here; if you print cheap amulet banish, amulets as a whole die off, but if you don't, Storm Haven remains a bullshit uninteractive deck unless you're Runecraft. That's why Storm Haven needs to just die; there's no way to do anything about it.
>>160742440
Typically the default assumption in a multiplayer game is that you play with other people.
>>160742326
If the guy could win after basically passing a turn it's on you if you lost.
Just won a game because of bellringer
Ding dong > Roach
>>160742305
>>160742537
There should still be some noninteractive decks.
>>160742525
how about cheap amulet banish in shadowcraft?
>>160742546
>ptp blood
wat?
What are good AOEs for Rune?
>>160742525
How about amulets that activate on your opponent's turn for instance stopping charge birds. That's just an idea I'm throwing out without much thought.
I just want people's concerns about decks addressed through more cards or discrete nerfs, not the disappearance of the deck entirely.
>>160742651
BATS SON
JUST CHUCK EM AT YOUR ENEMIES
Why is aggro bloodcraft considered good? I don't get it.
>>160742690
Tech half earthrite if you're going Dshift, firechain is bad since it hurts merlin's Dshift pulls
>>160742537
>>160742539
That's the problem. Haven HAS the ability to pass a turn, and even do more damage that way than the enemy. You literally can't do anything about it, except flood the board again, hoping he:
1)has no seraph on board
2)has no 2nd themis in hand
>>160742651
What else am I going to do for my blood dailies?
Also I think it could be semi-viable, you have a lot of cards that generate 3+ shadows, the issue is card draw
>>160742728
because it wins a lot
>>160742712
They should give the eagle rush instead of storm. People complain about Aria, with good reason, but the fucking Divine Birdsong is how I take most of my damage against the stupid deck.
>>160742782
Doesn't it also lose?
>>160742728
It's so fast that it actually has a higher winrate going first.
>>160742651
Make a fort and not pop it probably
Too meme for me to try it out
>>160742728
You can have like 2 different types of lolis on your dick
3 if you count Killer Devil
>>160742812
just like every deck, it also loses sometimes
>>160742827
>dick
deck*
>>160742712
A deck doesn't have to die just because it takes a nerf. God knows they never stopped Forest.
Introducing answers is essentially card game arms racing, it doesn't help anyone in the long run. You introduce niche answers, people run them at the cost of other match ups, the deck they answered falls out of popularity, something moves it back in, the answers return. It's a complicated balancing process that could end up settling anywhere at random, or go nowhere at all.
If a deck is consistently underperforming, then it should be buffed instead of bringing the larger population down, but if a deck is consistently overperforming, it should be nerfed instead of bringing the rest of the population up. This might not always be true, but in this case, the simplest answer is probably the best one because the best decks in the game are largely defined by a few stand out power cards.
An ideal meta is that everything is as close to 50% against everything else as can reasonably be expected, introducing options is more likely to lopside this than reducing them. Don't assume that any nerf will be a slippery slope to complete destruction of a deck.
>>160742746
I'm a newbie with a budget deck, I don't have Merlin and don't use earthrite-related cards
>>160742918
What do you have then?
New dshift doesn't run Fiery/Firechain/Snowmen anymore since it messes up Merlin's search
>>160742353
My argument hasn't changed, I'm absolutely for nerfing Aria and Garuda and spreading out the power (but not both simultaneously unless it really doesn't change the powerlevel of the deck). And I want tools for players in order to combat control decks too like say Loatheb as I mentioned before. I agree with what you're saying
>>160742807
That might tone down the deck enough who knows.
>>160742902
I'm going to work so this is a bit rushed and I'm just going to leave with this. I'm in favour of nerfing shit through small nerfs and/or more tech cards/tools for players. Nerfing shit is fine, absolutely fine. I'm just not in favour of nuking deck archetypes as some vengeful people might be suggesting.
>>160742353
They just put a soft cap on amount of durdling you can do with your deck, just like the aggro decks do but in a different way.
Aggro forces you to build your deck to have early answers, combo win conditions force you to have a specific way to deal with them or being proactive enough that the game ends before the combo.
Is using Vengeance viable?
Should I wait until the nerfs hit before committing to a deck?
>>160742968
This is my current deck. No bully pls.
>>160743132
Doesn't matter, a new expansion is coming in December and the meta will get a shake up anyway
>>160742807
I think the eagle is fine. It's not a DE card and it's not like it was tearing shit up before DE came out. It's mostly Aria and Garuda, and also the fucking dog.
>>160743168
What the fuck is the point of playing if they're going to release new cards every month and make the current meta obsolete?
>>160743126
It'll become viable if they ever make Control Vampire viable.
>>160743168
>a new expansion is coming in December
Do we get free tickets?
>>160743168
So I shouldn't be making any expensive deck at all right now?
I gave in, lads.
I didn't even give Blizzard any money in Hearthstone.
>>160743221
Are you seriously complaining about getting additional content for a game that lives and breathes on new card sets?
>>160743221
>every three months
Fixed.
>>160743221
Are you serious?
>>160743221
To make you buy packs, silly goy
desu a meta in a card game should always be stable for at least a year or so before getting shaken up
release new cards for the casual players but don't make them affect the meta at all
>Steam Community
Next expansion better have legendary spells. It was the one thing hs was missing.
>>160743247
You can either be impatient and roll 12 packs immediately and 1 pack the next day, or just do a single daily roll and get 24 packs slow and steady.
>>160743221
haven defenders everyone
>>160743305
Fuck off back to ygo, the land of stale metas.
>>160743345
Buying in bulk is stupid, that's like a 50% loss already. I'm mostly playing in Arena anyway so I'm satisfied with my current deck at the moment.
>>160743336
I really like this dude's English.
>>160743305
Fuck no. Look at Shamanstone. Shaman meta hasn't even existed for an entire year and look at how sick people got of it already.
>>160743365
Regular meta shifts are only okay if you don't have to pay for shit. Why do you think Legacy is considered the best MTG format and people hate the recent banning sprees in Modern?
>>160743221
It's every three months and what the fuck is wrong with you not wanting content releases. Most card games have some kind of release monthly for support and balancing purposes.
I got three flutes in three days.
Wait for the next expansion or make a deck now? Only thing I'd be close to having complete is forest but that seems way too risky right now
>>160743404
>Buying in bulk is stupid, that's like a 50% loss already.
>>160743221
Earth rite needs some good cards, if the expansion can deliver, I'm fine with them releasing expansion packs every three month.
Though if they go the hearthstone route of RNG card then I have a problem
What's everyone's personal best Arena class?
7 of my 9 5-0's have been with Haven. (Other 2 were Shadow and Dragon)
This is what I call a good start of the dayMedusa Gaze is animated
>>160743467
We don't know. But from past nerfs, Forest isn't going to suddenly become ass
So close.
>>160743438
>slowly grind your way to a complete deck
>get one month to play said deck before it's made obsolete by the next expansion and you get to start all over again
at least in other TCGs you can just trade away your cards to gullible retards before they become obsolete or sell them
>>160743525
But why are you in B rank?
>>160743521
I'm not going to spend 15k+ vials on a deck that isn't tier 0-1.
>>160743534
Because midrange sword suddenly had to recraft all their legionaries right?
>>160743497
Shadow gave me most of my 5 wins, but Sword consistently gives me 3-4 wins.
>>160743570
Half of that exp is from take 2.
>>160743585
Then wait until January when the meta settles if you're going to craft an entire deck from scratch
>>160743534
And in this one you can dust them to regain some of the cost.
Do Neutral spells give a Spellboost or only Rune spells?
>>160743534this is not a TCG
>>160743651
>scrap an entire deck
>get enough vials for 2 legendaries
wow sick value mang
>>160743652
All spells, sweetheart.
>>160743534
>three months
Fixed.
>>160742902
That's why you don't create niche answers but general tools for everyone to utilize. Magic printed Abrupt Decay and it is the perfect example of balancing without nerfing by introducing answers. SV has more the problem that instant face for 7+ damage in a game where you can only watch during opponents turn is fucking retarded design by default. Increasing life or changing almost all storm to rush would be the appropiate solution here. Personally, I'd make it more interesting and just hit the facedecks with quality of life changes such as removing Banner's commander trait and hitting the draw effects of the class with nerfs because when I play against a facedeck and it drops a body that tutors out 2 more bodies I unironically want to punch my display.
new-ish player here, homecoming won't be viable ever again right? I just opened 2 and want to get that sweet 800 vial value
>>160743690
You need to actually get the cards first buddy, and getting 6-7 legendaries isn't that easy
>>160743534
Before score rewards on the generous freebies the game gives you, you average something close to 40 packs a month just doing dailies. Assuming 300 vials a pack, which is below average but let's say accounts for you keeping some playables for investment, we're talking 12'000 vials a month, which is more than enough to build a top tier competition deck entirely from scratch.
Every three months, you should more or less be able to afford a new luxury deck totally from scratch on bad luck, so you'll always be able to complete a deck within an expansion cycle even if you have pricy tastes.
This is before rewards, assuming you have bad luck, assuming you build every deck every meta completely from scratch.
>>160743725
No reason not to dust it, you can always recraft it later if you really want.
>>160743725
Liquefy them regardless if they're good or not. You're not losing anything, and you can just spend the same amount you gained.
Always liquefy nerfed cards while you can.
>>160730673
So this is a direct "homage" to Hearthstone? How does it compare to SolForge (also on Steam, used to be popular before it was released).
>>160743739
Getting them with packs alone is hard, crafting them is another matter.
For starters, try dusting all the animateds you got, you'll be surprised.
>>160743725
Just through simple logic's dictation, if you burn them and they by some miracle become viable again (they won't) then you can just craft them again with the full vials you just burned them for.
>>160743674
>Buy a game have fun with it for a month
>trade it in for only 1/3 of the cost
>sick value mang
Do you know how retarded you sound
>>160743785
I dust every animated I get, I've been playing for a month and a half, and I don't have a completed deck yet.
>>160743765
>>160743773
will do, thanks
>>160741805
>Fiery embrace comes on opening hand two games in a row
>only 6 spells on the deck but they never show up anyway
I'll take my refund for this run it doesn't count
>>160743810
>work for 2 months to get game
>play game for 1 month
>now have to work for another 2 months for another game
>>160743813
Bullshit. Unless you've been playing ultra-casually or you aren't trying to make a single deck at a time, you'd have SOMETHING done by now.
>>160743721
Wew, you're a salty cunt.
>I don't like x deck so they should completely gut it
Because that's what your proposed changes would do to banner. I hope they make more nonsensical hyper aggro decks to piss you off more.
What the fuck is this shit.
>>160743813
I made my first competitive deck the second day of play, now I have 2 and I'm finishing my third soon after a bit over a week.
Not dusting bad cards is a choice you made.
>>160743901
my fetish
>>160743813
>don't have a completed deck yet
What kind of expensive jew decks are you running? I've just started a week ago and I already have banner sword with 2 tsubakis and 3 alwidas, elana and garuda haven (both with al-mirajs) and a bat bloodcraft deck with a queen vampire, 3 vanias and 3 fortresses, and a (merlin-less, with 3 levis) dshift deck. Currently I'm also on my way to get an otohime and 3 aurelias so I can finish my sword control.
>>160743875
>work for 2 months to get game
>not making 50 usd per hour
pfff, poorfags everyone
>>160743901
The dream.
>>160743813
4 days after I started I finished Runeshift. 3 weeks later I finished Elena. I got 0 relevant legendaries from the initial starter packs.
>>160743739
It's actually very easy if you vial junk, I mean goddamn I got all this in under 2 months of play with zero money spent, most of it I had to craft.
>>160743721
It also made all midrange decks forced to run green and black.
There are tradeoffs for everything.
>>160743876
I am trying to make a single deck, the cards I open are just spread all over the place and not at all what I need, but also not quite bad enough that I can justify scrapping them all, and I can't do dailies because I can't win matches because I don't have a finished deck. I've pretty much been playing Take Two exclusively.
>>160743813
Assuming you have pulled nothing but 7 bronze and 1 silver packs since you started playing the game, it is still literally impossible for you not to have a completed top tier deck at this point short of being a failed umbilical cord abortion.
>>160743973
>3 weeks later I finished Elena.
To be fair, Elana is cheap as shit.
>>160744030
You can do dailies in Take Two tough
>>160743773
>Always liquefy nerfed cards while you can.
Is there a list for a new player like me to look at?
are there any viable decklists with prince of darkness?
>>160744030
>I can't win matches because I don't have a finished deck.
Attain skill. You don't need a fucking metadeck to beat people, it just helps.
>>160743998
Is that really that important? As long as there's at least one viable deck for every playstyle.
>>160744086
Here's the list:
1. Homecoming
2. That's it.
Do you think the artists are sad when a card they drew is shit?
>>160744030
>and I can't do dailies because I can't win matches because I don't have a finished deck. I've pretty much been playing Take Two exclusively.
You can complete 90% of dailies just doing Take Two.
Any you can't complete you can just refresh.
This isn't hard.
And Bannermemes is cheap as fuck. You don't even need Awildas to run it consistently.
>>160743813
Unless you're focusing on making control sword, tempo forest, face dragon and midrange shadow simultaneously, I call that bullshit.
>>160744081
Only if you have dailies for the good Take Two crafts.
>>160744090
But everyone else runs meta decks? And let's be honest this game has a really low skill cap, you can't bridge that gap that easily
>>160744086
Currently only Homecoming is nerfed.
There's a list of Golds and Legendaries you can safely liquefy. But as for cards that have the potential to be nerfed, you just gotta feel it yourself.
I suggest hoarding cards and duplicates for now and only liquefy when you really need the vials.
>>160743683
>sweetheart
fuck off faggot
So, predictions on next month's sleeves and all?
I have a feeling it might be Unica for one
>>160743998
Not really. Stoneblade, pyromancer and non-green delver variants still run strong in Legacy where countertop still rules the format in the form of Miracles. Abrupt Decay also gets utilized by some combo decks that use awkward ways to pay for it such as Elves (with dorks) and Storm (with artifact mana) because it kills more than just the counterbalance. I love that card.
>>160744157
Please leave this general forever you are so fucking stupid that anonymous internet boards for bottomdwelling neckbeard waifufaggot niggercucks like me are offended sharing threads with you.
>tfw you just want to run an honest, fair deck in ranked but all the game hands you are Storm Haven golds and elf cancer
>>160744215
What other meme cards exist?
>>160744157
All I'm seeing is you blaming your mediocrity and ranked anxiety on the game.
No you don't need top tier decks to beat the brain dead animals in D-A ranks, please get good
>>160744094
There is a viable deck for every playstyle in SV too.
There are 3 viable aggro decks, 2 viable control decks, 2 viable midrange decks and 2 viable combo decks.
>>160744215
I'd ditch my Bellringer for an instant if I can get some Lalalala on my sleeves
>>160744134
I have a full Banner deck, I just don't use it anymore because all it really does is poop on Haven and lose to everything else, and even then sometimes the Haven player will still blow you out with christmas land god hands.
>>160744146
I was trying to make Forest, and I'm only missing Ancient Elves at this point, but now I don't even want to bother anymore since the deck's maybe going to be relevant for another 2 weeks at best.
>>160744257
>yfw Elana sleeves next month
>>160744215
Unica and the Skeleton token.
>>160744249
>Honest fair decks in ranked
but how will you win
>>160744229
Nobody can afford to play legacy unless you want to dump a thousand bucks on cardboard and have friends who are willing to do that too.
Come back when eternal is supported format.
>>160744294
Everything you type is wrong and retarded.
Don't bother making a forest deck, don't even bother playing because you're an ape
>>160744271
That's too many decks honestly.
Bloodfags, how far did you get with lolibats?
>>160744257
Floral Fencer, Baldy...who else?
>>160744320
If I ever play Elana, Unica would be my sleeves really. But that assumes I would ever stoop that low
Golly, it's chilly here! Golly, it's chilly here! Golly, it's chilly here! Golly, it's chilly here! Golly, it's chilly here!
>>160744354
It's only just 650+ posts, stop being premature, retard.
>>160744294
>I have a full Banner deck, I just don't use it anymore because all it really does is poop on Haven and lose to everything else, and even then sometimes the Haven player will still blow you out with christmas land god hands.
>>160744354
kill yourself
>>160744294
>not getting to AA0 and above with budget (not even luxury) banner decks that costs nearly nothing
Git gud, you just suck at card games.
>>160744354
>Making a thread early
>Still bumping it 3 hours later
And you guys told me only Discordfags had autism.
This isn't the worst /svg/ I've ever been in but it's definitely the stupidest.
>>160744483
>says the person who made the thread extremely early
Jesus fuck, actual autism.
>>160744294
Banner has a >50% overall winrate until AA.
Forest has also been at the top of tier 1 for almost the entire lifespan of this game, even after two nerfs that specifically targeted Forest cards, so your anxiety is kind of dumb.
>>160744483
stop being a fucking retard you newshit
>>160744157
At your rank you should be running into sandbaggers just giving away free wins
>>160744483
Don't be such a faggot just because you want to be the one to make the OP. Nobody cares.
>>160744354
>>160744406
It's Hearthstone posters trying to take
>Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game similar to /hsg/ Hearthstone
Out of the OP
Notice how it's gone. Flag the thread as they're pushing other /vg/ threads off the board for this shitfest
>>160744483
You're a fucking idiot, kid. You lost, deal with it.
>>160744375
Quickblader.
Git gud.
>>160744543
Honestly, "/hsg/" shouldn't even be in the OP, it's aggravating as shit to anyone from that general and also completely unrelated. It should just say "Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game similar to Hearthstone"
>>160744483
>even had "Cuckolded" as the previous thread joke
Someone is trying to fit in.
>>160744528
Banner has a high win rate because of the prevalence of Haven decks. Against anyone running tempo Forest or midrange Sword with their massive Wards you basically have to hope you open the nuts and kill them before they can do anything.
>>160744364
yo bloodretards I'm talking to you answer me or I will bully her
>>160744627
shut the fuck up kid, you got caught making it early now hush
>>160744635
and now they're posting trash meme pics
>>160744627
I don't even want Hearthstone in our general, I don't care how much fun our shitposters have messing with /hsg/, I don't want any Blizzardfaggots coming to this game and posting about how they don't have a top tier deck a month and a half in when Storm Haven starts around 6k.
>>160744662
I can't tell you because I'm a dirty dirty sandbagger.
>>160744681
>implying I'm the autist who posted that thread
I just know how annoying it is when you search for certain threads via Ctrl+F to have that shit there. If there was a reason for it to be there I wouldn't even comment on it but there's no reason to have the /hsg/ part in there. The rest of it is fine.
>>160744642
It also shits on DShift obviously, and it has a relatively even matchup against aggro bats.
In addition, its worst matchups (forest and midrange/control sword) are also some of the most expensive decks around, so they are rare below A rank.
For the cheapest deck in the game, banner does not do too bad.
>>160744521
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>>160744532
>>160744541
>>160744587
>>160744635
>>160744801
Don't bully him he got aspergers.
>>160744851
I still don't like playing a deck that solely tries to prey on a meta trend like that, because it results in every game being very one sided for or against you. If anything, that's why I like tier 0 metas because there is no such thing as a bad matchup.
Wat do
>>160744925
>>160744967
Left for safety.
Right for meme magic.
A rank is fascinating
There's loads of people playing Tempo Forest so badly that I keep thinking they're ptp players
>>160744967
>best class lego in the game vs the two worst
hmm
>>160744930
It's not really a trend as it is an overall characteristic of cheap aggro decks, which prey on unoptimized decks in low ranks with speed and efficiency, while counters tend to be expensive.
This is why it's the ideal starter deck for climbing low ranks.
>>160744689
Fuck off normiecore.
Why isnt dragonman's dragonform playable as a leader?
>>160745241
(ROAR)
>>160744925
I'm not sure who's more autistic, the guy who kept bumping a thread he made 3 hours ago or the guy who went back on the archive and searched for an image name just to screencap it.
>>160745270
(ROAR)
>>160745273
We're the same guy.
Why is every 2nd disconnecting autist is also a Haven shitterand also nip 80% of the time?
>>160745289
(ROAR)
(ROAR)
(ROAR)
>>160745309
What a TWEEST!
>>160745320
>80%+ of the players are nips
>80% of the ragequitters are nips
Gee, I wonder why.
Just installed the english version, but screen is all time black. Nothing is happening. Help? Im in japan btw.
>>160745386
I've got no idea I'm afraid anon. Being in Japan shouldn't affect it afaik.
>>160745451
Shoosh, you don't need to remind us. Just do it.
>>160745451
Are you autistic?
Why can't we have shit like this?
>>160745543
It's just some /b/tard trying to be an epic trole.
>>160744967
Don't pick fencer, It's 4 PP 2/2 most of the time
>>160745543
Fuck off.
>>160744930
You have the wrong mentality for CCGs. Individual matches don't matter, a ddcent portion of your games you will do everything right and still lose. You play CCGs for win rate and ranking grind, single matches are pretty irrelevant and honestly the game is too luck based for an individual game to be fun. The fun comes from figuring out how to raise a 52% win rate to a 53% one and so forth.
>>160745523
Because muh unfun.
>>160745543
unironically end your life
This game is pretty fun. Shadowcraft is like a blend of warlock and hunter but not as degenerate so I'm enjoying it a lot.
What is the hearthstone equivalent to this rank? People seem be playing mostly tier 1 decks and tier 1 decks that counter other tier 1 decks but I have a bunch of reward cheevos to go so I'd assume something like rank 15.
>Flair: Prepare to Die
>>160745650
Uh, rank 7-10? AA0 is probably rank 5
>>160745680
>PLZ HLP
>>160745680
>Flair: First Farer
>>160745604
This so much. Amount of random doesn't really matter as long as you can make bad decisions based on those odds.
Matchups in the current metagame is something you can make a good or a bad decisions on.
>>160745245
>>160745543
>>160745641
>>160745809
Reminder to report this idiot for being so buttmad that he created a new thread for a general he doesn't like almost 100 posts too early
and he's spamming it on top of that
I have a thread ready to go with the /the elder scrolls: legends/ in the OP post. TRY TO STOP ME!
>>160745910
Don't forget the other shitstain while you're at it.
Is this game good for free to play or is as slow as Hearthshit?
>>160745910
Don't forget the other posts that are just as bad and are probably the same guy just eating up posts in this thread.
>Renascent Shitpost
>Countdown (13)
>Last Words: Summon a Shitpost Lapis, Glory Be
this autism makes me angry
>>160746031
I'm going to make a proper new thread once this thread hits 750. If the janitor wants to delete it in favour of the rectal-ravaged spammers one, that's his prerogative.
>>160745976
Kid, you made a thread 150 posts early. Even discordfags were never this bad.
>>160746109
It's fun.
>>160745967
>Shitpost Shift (20)
>subtract 0 from the cost
>shitpost: subtract 1 more
>summon a new thread to shitpost in
>>160746104
good.
Can I have a concede please?
21234
>erp faggotry
>I WANT TO FUCK ____ shitposting
>discord faggotry
>thread creating wars
Is the general dying or something?
New non-autist thread:
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>>160746286
Seriously, wow, he's going all out.
>>160746263
The Steam release brought along a lot of idiots.
My goodness, and it is getting worse every day.
>>160746263
I want to fuck is staple quality posting
>>160746269
>>160746282
>>160746310
GET IT TOGETHER YOU CHUCKLEFUCKS
>>160746263
Welcome to every general in the world, enjoy your stay.
>>160745916
pls deliver I've been wanting to talk about the game with someone and reddit is insufferable
>>160746403
Luna chan don't cry, have a lolipop
It's my dick
>>160746282
>>160746310
report these two idiots for spam and move on to the proper thread
>>160746448
It was not as bad a week ago to be honest.
>>160746507
Thanks anon
>>160746538
You can say the exact same thing for any other general when there's new subjects to discuss, I'm sure.
>>160746641
No-ones falling for your shitty b8 m8. First to be made means nothing when it was made like 200 posts early for a shitpost.
>>160746448
Generals only become this way when there are new events that cause population booms or if the content attracts idiots to begin with.
Go over to /hgg/, /hgg2D/ or /vn/ and tell me if you EVER see this type of behavior.
All those threads are terrible
Where's the fifth
>>160746907
>hating my adventure thread
fuck you asshole, now get your ass in the ass thread.
>>160741221
Out of curiosity, at what rank did you start having trouble? I'm interested in Control too
>>160746941
sorry about the adventure thread anon, I liked itI prefer the ass one because the /hsg/ in the op fucks with that idiot causing all the trouble
>>160747381
I personally think it looks dumb and invites shitposting. I wish the janitor would wake up and and annihilate that autist though, that would be funny.
>>160743901
Literally living in dream