/kfg/ - Killing Floor General

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1st for never forget
https://youtu.be/C6C2czPIV3A

>>160693310
>the good times where you watched DBS jump exploit webms of the new map Die Volter will never come back

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http://steamcommunity.com/id/0m3g4z3r0

kys faggot

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>The fun times.
>The optimism.
>The new strategies.
>The OC.

Those times are never coming back, are they?

>>160693652
what do you mean the game is great

>>160693652
Only smiles from now on, anon

>>160693652
>methados won't come back
I need that Scrake ass goddamn it

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>no wall crawlers
>no matriarch
>no martial artist
>no trader playable character
>not even a mod to replace the trader's lines with new ones
fuck off she's not dead you faggots

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Did they buff Husk AI?
>Burning Paris tunnel
>Bloats blocking entrace, Husk further back behind them
>Husk fires
>Hits bloats
>Somehow directly shoots me through the bloats
>Die
SINCE WHEN COULD THEY DO THIS!?

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>>160693310
>tell dev a shitty knock knock joke on twitter
>he fucking gives me a key for the pre-release beta
I still remember the palpable hype I could barely contain as I was installing it.
I still remember the trembling excitement washing over me as I clicked play for the very first time.
I still remember those first 20 hours I played nonstop with other people from the beta where I had to stop solely because I was physically exhausted.

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Do you know if my KF2 items will be lost if I refund the game?

I got a sweet bike hat

>no Taunt Players
>no Thanks
>no Harpoon Cannon
>no Flare Revolvers
>no oomph to Firebug
>how is it even possible to make playing firebug as fun as sucking on a button with this modern engine
>atrocious music system

>>160694508
Trade them to a trusted friend or an alt account

>>160694508
First post the sound version. Then we'll talk.

>>160694508
No. You can purchase items for games you don't own, so game inventories are separate from game subscriptions.

>>160693652
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMAYOoi56IU
>tfw he was right
All we had to do was listen.

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Why are we still here...just to suffer

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>>160694478
>tweet Munk a stock image of a bank robber and tell him to give me a code or I shoot
>he actually did it

I finally refunded my game after putting in 240 hours into it. It was fun while it lasted, but the pain of bad updates, mismanagement and the latest perk has made me click the refund button.

This isn't killing floor folks. This is just a different game that doesn't deserve to be called a sequel. I will never trust Tripwire again.

>>160693310
https://youtu.be/5Ga8_AFJxoo
ORANGE SUN MORNING OUTPOST WHEN!!??

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>>160694841

>>160695081
t. Didn't play Killing Floor 1 at launch
>>160695181

>>160693652
Nope. But my $29.99 is on its way

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>>160695307
k

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>>160695541
oh

>>160694675
https://youtu.be/gn-qeXa7yjI

>flamethrower as survivalist
>kill self while burning scrake
I didn't know what to expect

>>160694092

>No Clot porn.

Fuck my life. I just wanted some Clot ass.

>played 200 hours when EA first came out
>took a long break
>game is fun and im having fun

you guys shouldn't have stayed tuned, that was your mistake

>>160695961
>Burning a Scrake
That's incredibly retarded even as a Firebug

>>160695968
>wants flat nonexistent clot butt
>over meaty scrake ass
fag

>not liking crawler butt best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLSGBQUA8l0

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feels good

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So I just refunded.

You guys gonna rebuy it with the -25% or wait for a -33%/-50%?

>>160696373

I prefer FP ass.

>>160697096
I'm using it for Dishonored 2.

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>>160697286
>Buying a Bethesda title

>>160697620
It's an Arkane title, Bethesda only published it.

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>>160697620

>Buying any video games.

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>refunded last night
>still pending
ree

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Shh, only dreams now.

>Tripwire still haven't released patch notes for the official full release
I love that they don't want people to realise they added nothing.

>>160699620
they didn't add patch notes because there wasn't a patch
Everyone already knows nothing was added

>>160699576

Dem cute fangs.

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Will refunds be the end of TWI?

>>160700860
>Over 1 million units sold on PC
>Console cash flowing in now
I really don't think they'll give a shit

>8 regular crawlers
>2 albino crawlers
>1 siren
>all spawn right next to me
rip

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PUT ANDERSON BACK IN THE FUCKING GAME ALREADY

>>160699576
Out of all the HD perk girls so far only this one is actually better than the monochrome versions

overall I'm having fun with the game, but then I only paid about 15 bucks for my PS4 copy(thanks to trading in some old games)

although I do agree that Firebug is garbage

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>>160701494
>talking shit about pub tattoos
Blow off, choffer.

>>160702180
It's not a bad game, just a lot of salt over decisions the Devs have made over the past year and a half. Especially the recent one to scrap the real final perk for the disappointing Survivalist.

>>160701363
easy kills

>>160702526
This is the kind of things toe expect when buying a EA game.

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my wife

>>160702784
>Early access done right

Jesus christ fix your fucking servers goot.

>>160702914
where is the bulge

>>160702784
Changing content as the game grows to it's final state, yes. Telling the player base you need to axe perks because of no funds right after implementing a gambling system? No.

>>160702526
I'm aware of those, although thankfully Firebug seems to be the only class that's still screwed over by those decisions for the most part, and yeah it is kinda disappointing that they got rid of Martial Artist for Survivalist

>>160703373
>Telling the player base you need to axe perks because of no funds
When did they said that?

>>160703470
January livestream where they said SWAT and MA were on the chopping block

>>160703586
Cmon man, I'm against TWs bullshit but don't make stuff up like a moron

>>160702670
Not when they're in your face as a demo.

>>160703745
>shoot HX25 at your feet and run in the direction of least resistance

ez

>>160703737
Watch the livestream you dolt

>>160703586
SWAT is fully in the game and MA was never announced in the first place

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!

>>160703818
>keeping the HX25
dropped it for RPG + m203 senpai

>>160703586
>Making shit up
Their streams are on their YouTube page, c'mon show me the exact time where they said they had no funds for a 10th Perk.

/kfg/ server is currently up, running the huskamania mod.
open 70.178.17.101:7777?password=rage

>>160703926
Well don't. It's a great personal defense weapon for when you get swarmed

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>>160703926
>Using the M16 instead of the M79

>>160704017
Do it yourself.

>>160704292
>making it so you have absolutely no option for trash upclose

>>160703926
>taking m203

only acceptable if everyone else on your team has no arms and you're playing on containment station

>>160704393
have you tried explosions?

>>160704292
But the M16 has an M79 under it.

>>160704445
what about solo

>>160704623
With a way smaller radius that's only good for single targets or 2 Zeds really close to each other. Also less explosives.

>>160704639
if you're playing solo you might be the one with no arms

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>>160704585
>explosions
>for trash in your face

>>160704445
best gun tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcnO0Kwx5VY

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>>160692925

>KF2 just released
>General OP has a refund theme

GG WP TWI
And by WP I mean you fucked up.

>>160704803
if you arent shit you can shoot a nade at its min radius and kill any trash thats on you or knock it down

alternatively throw all 5 of your dynamite and kill yourself in the process

>>160705372
Or jump and shoot behind them

>>160693648

>This game is great when you're having a shit day
>1300 hours

Looks like every day for this cuck is shit LOL.

>>160699576

Now THIS is nice.

>>160704803
Fire the HX25 at your feet. It does next to no self-damage and clears anything in your face.

>>160706230
pretty sure it doesn't do any self damage

agorek agorek agorek

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>>160692925

http://www.strawpoll.me/11698046
http://www.strawpoll.me/11698046
http://www.strawpoll.me/11698046

/kfg/ please answer this poll.

>downloading package "scrakes on a plane" failed: Error opening file

help

>>160707974

See OP's theme

>>160707928
The people who've refunded left one day ago though, since there's no reason for them to actually stay, you're obviously going to get way more people answering who didn't.

>>160707928
Bought it from g2a for $10 so it's not really an option for me.

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>>160693652

It's hard to be enthusiastic about making OC for a dead game where the general is only bitching and it becomes another negative hub. Where you want to have fun but the game itself and the devs have sucked the fun out of it for you. All your friends have moved on and you're the only one who cares. It gets old.

See->/wfg/

I just want to go fast and play Tribes Ascend again.

What is the source of the refund meme?

Do people not like the updates?

>>160712214
What updates?

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>>160712467

So can we finally bind voice commands? Change music easier? Replace Donovan's voice lines completely to Louis?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9mK_QsUzoI

>Page 10

So this is how /kfg/ dies.
Not with thunderous Staying Tuned, but with a thunderous shit launch.

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>/kfg/ fights the fire nation

>>160717514
You mean a thunderous refunding?

>>160717514
there are more populated servers now than ive seen in a long time, /kfg/ wanted to die, it wanted to stay untill launch and then pussy out with the excuse that they stayed tuned, but it just didnt work in the end. And now, even though its working and popular and will be a hit game, its on auto-pilot, it had planned to die, and is forcefully acting out suicide even though everything fabulous.

>>160718080
t. john gibson

>>160718080
Everyone fucking left before your game came out gibson, fuck off.

>>160717551
When are we playing again?

>>160702914
These anime versions of the perks are fucking atrocious.

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>>160722667
Is this more to your taste?

>>160718080

/kfg/ is dead but the game itself is still very much alive.

>>160723417
>player numbers peak slightly only around sales
>alive
Sure

anyone know where the player zed skins / sheens are located in the files i want to remove them

i know they help identify player zeds but that blue on everything is just real fucking ugly

dumb dog

friendly reminder that if $30 is a lot to you you're poorfag garbage and no one from /kfg/ will miss you

>>160723546
>it's another "anon thinks a 6 player PVE horde game needs 20,000 players to be alive" episode
We've been coasting at around 2000 average players daily for months now. This sale is only -25% off and now it's at 4000 players with new PC players joining at the time of maximum content and console friends, this sale boost will encourage new content that non EA players will eat up.

>>160726741
people forget how effective the crossbow is
I'd say it's the best weapon for offperking as support; you can stun a big zed and very easily unload an AA12 mag into it.

>>160726891
i could very easily unload on you kid

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>>160726891
the only thing that stopped it from being meta was the no stun bug which seems to be fixed now. ive seen 1-2 supports use it before the fix.

It's pretty great on medic if you trust your team to decap scrakes for you.

>>160727476
g-gosh

Whats all this fuss about people refunding the game with the official release?

>>160728645
it's possible to get a refund for 3 days after a game comes out of early access.

it's being somewhat abused

>>160722963
Yes ma'am.

>>160728721
Regardless of what people expected is it really worth refunding?
I haven't played it in a while because I burned myself out but the game is fine-ish?

>>160728890
>refund the 30bux you spent on it
>buy it later for 5

>>160726891
>>160726741
>>160727493
This is how I roll for both Commando and Support. Crossbow, just like the first game, is awesome.

>>160728890
Well considering that you can immediately buy it again 25% off, yes.

And yeah, the game is good.
most of the grievances are about what happened in early access or things like the existance of crates and how one of the devs is an "SJW"

>>160692925
Is the magnum at all useful offperk or for Survivalist? I like to use Commando with SCAR and Crossbow, and I'd like to throw in the magnum as the last 3 weight. I was just curious if it could help at all with any combo on the big zeds.

>>160729516
It can one-shot clots to the chest at a certain level, so it's a viable sidearm

Just got KF2 for the PS4. Liking it a lot sans some art stuff (UI, character design, etc).

Why the fuck did they make The Patriarch so fucking hard. In KF1 he was a breeze, but in KF2 he's ridiculously difficulg even on Normal. KF1 Patriarch was easier on HoE. You seriously need level 10+ players to be able to take him down on Normal.

Who's bright idea was it to allow him to run away where the players cannot catch up every time he dips below 30%? If it weren't for that he'd be easy. It's just no one has ammo or armor any more after you keep having to widdle him down to 30%.

>>160733430
t. never played KF1

>>160733430
>Who's bright idea was it to allow him to run away where the players cannot catch up every time he dips below 30%? If it weren't for that he'd be easy. It's just no one has ammo or armor any more after you keep having to widdle him down to 30%.
did you never play the first game

Whats this about refunds?
I bought this game during early access and dropped it like a brick. Is it actually fun now? I'd rather refund this shit after they put it on sale and took their fucking time doing nothing.

Haven't touched it since they added the gunslinger

>>160733430
>>in KF1 he was a breeze
t. Anon that used level 6 perks on easy-hard difficulties
>>KF1 patriarch on HOE easier than KF2 patriarch on normal.
completely wrong.
>>allow him to run away every time he dips below 30%
Let me take that first thing back.
t. Anon that literally never played KF1. Literally git gud

>>160734089
yeah it's pretty good

all the classes are quite well balanced so it's not the same gunslinger/medic/zerker every game

>>160734089
try it and see, firebug is weak now and survivalist is utter trash but other perks are in good states.

>>160734238
>>160734313
Okay... can I still refund this turd though? I bought it a year ago and I hear you can refund 3 days after it releases?

Is that a grey area grounds to getting my steam account banned?

>>160734384
>ask if you should refund it
>two posts telling you it's in a decent state but try it and see
>"nah it's a piece of shit even though I haven't played it in nearly a year and there's been updates since."
Yes you can refund it nigger. Steam doesn't care.

>>160733656
>>160733727
Yes I fucking did play KF1. I can count on one hand the amount of times my team lost on KF1. In KF2 it's like 7:3 in terms of losing, with it being the former.

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>>160734557
Apparently I can't, refund isn't listed.

>be in a corner minding my own business just clearing trash
>two fleshpounds come around and are by my teammates
>they start firing at them and they start to charge
>they rush towards me pinning me in the corner
>die

Why

>>160734963
they suck
you suck

>>160733430
[git gud echos]

>>160734963
>not getting the fuck out of there or killing the fleshpounds yourself

never trust your team

>>160734670
select killing floor 2 DUMASS

>>160733430
People are saying "git gud" and "did you even play KF1", but KF2 patty really is fucking terribly designed compared to KF1. Hans has also only gotten worse since the early days.

>>160735719
I did. Hopefully they approve it. I had 38 hours "play time" most of which Idling at the menu. Last played January.

I am going to spend the refund money on H1Z1: KOTH, hopefully I have learned my lesson.

>>160735724
Hans is baby mode. Patty is literally retarded hard. Random out of the blue 1-shot kill attack, miniguns could be locked onto you twice without warning, literally have to take him from 75% to 30% 5-6 times before you can kill him.

>>160735724
whats the difference between early and current patty?

and old hans was terrible
he was invincible until he grabbed someone so there was literally nothing you could do other than let him eat a teammate

>>160735724
he's hardly any different
if anything he's easier considering how slow he is

>>160735826
>using blessed dosh for h1z1 koth early access
vomit

Have fun!

>>160735826
>hopefully I have learned my lesson.
>I am going to spend the refund money on H1Z1: KOTH
Apparently you haven't learned dick.

>>160735962
>>160735920
It was a joke but the game looks fun and it is the most popular open world loot and survive pvp game right now.

>>160736113
Yeah

>>160735867
>>160735885

I can't honestly remember how patty has changed over the course of KF2, but I have two main problems with him compared to KF1.
1: Almost impossible to finish off early unless his AI glitches out.
2: Heals to a fixed percentage.
This leads to a ridiculous design where you're actually punished for attacking him at his most vulnerable, unless he bugs out and lets you outright kill him. It's ridiculous that bringing him from 30% to 1HP still results in all that progress getting wiped, and it's a big reason why losing to patty in KF2 feels so unfair compared to KF1.

On the subject of Hans: the invincibility shield was dumb, but at least at the very beginning he was very dangerous with controllable damage (parry lock, avoiding guns/gas/grenades).
Now what we have is "old man old guns let's try gas" who is actually just a giant damage sponge sprinting around dodge dashing every 1.5 seconds trying to impale people.
I found Hans much more enjoyable when his guns, gas, and grenades felt far scarier than his melee. Not sure if he's easier or harder now, but he really feels less fun for me.

>>160736993
>2: Heals to a fixed percentage.
no he doesn't
do more damage you absolute shitter

>>160733430
Patriarch can only do that trick(or at least the health refilling part of it) about 3-4 times, also during Boss waves the various ammo and weapon drops on the map are both a lot more common, and respawn a lot faster, which combined with at least one competent Medic(and people topping up their own health as well) makes him not all that hard usually

Hans is a fair bit harder, but still not that bad on Normal if you're team ain't morons

>>160737081
When did this apparently change? I haven't seen this the few times I've played since sharp came out, nor heard anyone mention it.
Even if he now heals relatively, his heal amounts are so massive that most of your damage would be ignored anyway if you play on HoE rather than beginner.

>>160737172
because when i was doing my surv hoe ach i got him really low before he ran, and his syringe only brought him back up to like 3/4ths rather than full
>his heal amounts are so massive that most of your damage would be ignored anyway if you play on HoE rather than beginner.
or you could stop being terrible and chase him down with a commando on your team and other high damage classes

i dont get the patty is harder meme when hans literally can not die early even with the dumb shield mechanic

whats your favorite KF2 song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhtwUk3QagQ

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>>160737302
really makes me think, thanks. I'll make sure to remember that healing 99% HP after 35% doesn't erase all your progress.

>>160737665
you can, if you block the entrances

Ive done it a few times

[b]NERF GASSS[/b]

>>160737720
then go chase him down faster
if you're complaining about normal mode there's something wrong with you

>>160733430
idk man when Pat came out my first time encountering him we killed him in 30 seconds without him being able to heal, and I've also killed him without him healing recently as well so it's definitely possible.

>>160737805
>hoe
>normal mode
t. illiterate

>>160737684
Bitter End. I really started listening to FFaK after KF2. For some reason it is fun to try and sync the firing of your guns with breakdowns.

>>160737851
see
>>160733430

>>160737969
The point here isn't whether he's right that normal mode patty is too hard, it's about patty being a stupidly designed fight. If they've changed his mechanics so that you can actually cause lingering damage on lower difficulties, that's cool, but the design flaw still exists on HoE.

>>160737154
>Hans is a fair bit harder, but still not that bad on Normal if you're team ain't morons

Hans is easy on any difficulty. He doesn't run away, so you can just easily DPS him down.

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tfw wearing a girl avatar and guys treat me so nice when playing KF2

WhywhywhyI JUST LIKE PRETTY WOMEN AS MY AVATAR BECAUSE I FIND THEM BEAUTIFUL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>160737302
>or you could stop being terrible and chase him down with a commando on your team and other high damage classes

Dude, he runs like 5x the normal sprint speed. By the time he stops he's already healed before you get to him.

>>160738997
You just want to be a pretty woman anon, and I'm going to treat you as such

Refunded, waiting for the cash to go back in my steam account, getting deathwing.

i wish the general had an EU server and enough people to populate it

I don't have enough friends with the game to make a full 6 :(

>>160740114
Problem with /kfg/ servers in the later days was: they were always empty.
Since they also had a password to keep off pub shitters, nobody would just join there and wait god knows how long for other people to notice and join.
Nobody ever advertises in the thread either
Why also pay for an empty server when people can just hijack one of the hundred avaible ones?

>>160740816
yeah that's fair.

I just wanna play without Survivalists man

>>160739910
Wait. WAIT. before you buy deathwing wait a while after it's released.

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:^)

>>160743252
lent me a tenner

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>>160737302
>commando
>high damage classes

Really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhtwUk3QagQ

official refund theme

As someone who's put roughly 300 hours into KF1 and only recently bought KF2: Is Berserker still as fun as it was in KF1? Kiting the entire map, slapping the shit out of big dudes because you're a bad man, carrying pubs and never dying because you're TOOFAST?

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I just got into the game again (I played like 10hrs when EA released and didn't touch it since then). What's the difference in roles between Commando and SWAT ? I've tried both of them and they both seem good at handling trash. Back when the game was released on early access I heard there was plans about a shield which may have made the class about crowd control or something like that but now it feels very close to Commando.

>>160737684
This one is the only song I sorta like but I was never a fan of Killing Floor's OST even with 300hrs logged in the first one

>>160741704
Wait for what? It looks like shit,

>>160717551
>That kriss skin

Noice.

>Sold items
>Sold cards
>32+ hours of boredom(tried to play with different people at least 4 times - they all get bored along with me very fast)
>Got my refund
All in all - got more than i payed.
Fuck Tripwire though. My main complain - guns feel like nerf guns.

I finally did it and tried VS mode for the achievements. What the fuck is this Tripwire?!

Not suprisingly everyone wants to go Zeds and the player controlled ones are bullet spongey as fuck. Why must I be using my knife at the end of the first two waves? Almost everyone on my team was lvl. 0 too. That's unfair for the survivors but I imagine a team full of lvl 25 would suck for the zeds too. We killed the patriarch just barely and for most of the time the player just kept running away while sanic clots and gorefasts tried to take us out. Why the fuck do they have no movement penalty in bullet time anyway?

I haven't even tried playing as the zeds yet.

>>160751107
It is close to commando. They have more or less identical purpose on a team of trash clearing and general support.

Trash clearing:
The SWAT is easier to handle close range trash. Both can under normal situations just chain headshots all day and efficiently remove trash. SWAT has an advantage in panic situations since magdumping into a mob will cause a lot of them to stumble letting you/your team escape easier with out getting clot grabbed. Commandos really can not spray like this except with the AK and its nowhere near as effective at this emergency type situation as a SMG is. Both also clear trash at medium ranges just fine, with the kriss recoil being almost nonexistent you can easily tap headshots at medium range with the exact same effectiveness of a commando using a SCAR.

Medium zeds:
At close range both kill medium zeds just as easily. SWAT needs to full auto but since SWAT can move at full speed while crouched (dont get the armor skill) you can basically do this effortlessly. Tapping a few shots into things faces with the SCAR requires a bit more control in hectic situations, but with practice is also equally efficient at killing sirens and husks and bloats. At medium ranges the commando has a clear advantage, with the SCAR not really changing its effectiveness or handling characteristics. While the kriss has low recoil the number of shots needed to decap a medium zed is still enough that you will require significantly more time than a commando at killing medium zeds at medium or long ranges.

Large zeds:
This is not the primary or even secondary target of either perk. The commando should just avoid them alltogeather. In situations where the team is magdumping both the kriss and the scar can do considerable damage to heads if your aim is good, but under most circumstances when the team is dealing with a large zed your job is to continue killing trash to keep them safe. SWATs grenade is notable here for utility purposes for the team

Someone give me a perk tier list.
I want to focus on one or two classes and get them to high ranks first, but I can't decide on which.

Demolitionist seems strong, free grenades for everyone and both anti-swarm and anti-bigdude capabilities

>>160752332
Utility:
Commandos stalker detection is very valuable and having a commando on the team is always a good idea just for this alone. SWATs utility has been mentioned, the grenade and the SMG stumble capability does give you and by extension your team some extra protection in bad situations where you are being overan and need to transition from camping to kiting

Secondary weapons:
The kriss and the SCAR are both extremely nice t4 weapons, but the extra inventory space needs to be considered. Commando really needs a backup, as you can run out of SCAR ammo on later waves. Both the AK and bullpup make good trash clearing backup. The bullpup on single shot handles more or less identically to the scar. The AK on full auto mode but single shot tapping feels like a sloppy SCAR. Both are fine backup weapons. The SWAT on the other hand does not really require a secondary SMG. The kriss should have enough ammo for you. This means the SWAT can carry some extra utility. rpg-7 can be used to aid the team in magdumping FPs, it can also be used to blunt damage headshot scrakes. This means you wont be able to carry a medic pistol, however.

Of note, both classess get a skill to make their 9mm do more damage. The swat should always start with this as it gives them dual 9mms as well. The swat can easily justify switching to tactical reload once obtaining the kriss, however. The commando on the other hand can keep this skill forever as his version increases weapon switching speed. Dual 9mms with this damage bonus are effective trash clearing as well and the commando can consider this as a third weapon.


Ultimately i feel that SWAT is a redundant perk. It is fun to play as SMG handle very well and moving at full speed while crouching is fun for dicking around, but commando is just as capable at trash clearing if played well and the stalker detection is extremely valuable for the team.

>Patty can charge and melee target one person over and over again

Yeah, great design. "Git gud", sure, yeah, I'll just have to find a way to break the mechanics of the game to be able to run faster than Patty charging at me with 4 times the speed of the fastest sprint.

>>160753709
don't forget his football tackle teleports him into range no matter how far you get from him in close proximity.

why are Steam giving refunds when y'all have shit loads of hours played

>>160753967
Because despite the hours we played, KF2 is "Technically" new and released. Thus pretty much ignoring the time we played. Pretty large and glaring loop hole but Im not sure whether valve would fix it or just leave it as is. If Day Z ever comes out of EA I know what I am refunding.

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>>160753967
A glitch in the system.

>>160754107
why are people refunding tho, it's good

>>160752332
>>160752709
Thanks lad.

>>160754259
Many reasons. Some people didnt like how the EA was handled and were dissapointed in the final product.

Then there are some dumb reasons like people saying they added and SJW character or some shit.

But its mostly just dissapointment in the final product.

/kfg/... Steam... Steam refused my refund.

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>Buy KF2 day it goes EA
>Unbox pic related a few months ago
>worth £180
>159 Hours played
>Refund gets accepted

Thanks TWI

>>160752072
health scales with mean player level iirc

>>160751107
There were never any plans for a shield announced by the devs, only speculation on the part of the fans

They're adding a shield to zerker and hinted that there may be a riot shield coming in the future though

Is anyone having issues with the inventory? Just booted up KF2 again and for some reason all my items are gone.
I bet the jews did this

>>160754474
Good.

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>>160755363
>whatever update came out and had the Mask of The Abyss in one of the crates I opened for the hell of it expecting to get garbage
>it's an exceptional item so it's gotta be worth a lot
>first one to list it, make it "reasonable" at around €80
>some sucker buys it almost immediately
>a week later someone lists it one for €6
>the only time someone ever came close to selling one of these apparently undesirable cosmetics was when someone sold a black one for €65

>>160757095
The only time someone came close to selling one as much as I did, I mean.

>>160756147
the inventory for the game is managed by Steam so check steamstat.us for the details on that

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not today

Does mute battle chatter work yet?

Bamp niggers

If I refund, will I have all my stats and achievements when I buy it again?

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What's going on in this thread? Why are so many people refunding my game?

You guys can't possibly agree with vid related right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMAYOoi56IU

tfw you're the only one that heals other players
tfw no one ever plays medic so i'm forced to
tfw whenever someone does play medic i still manage outheal them

i hate pubs

>>160764540
>outhealing a Medic with nothing but syringe and a offperk HM101

simultaneously the best and worst feeling about pub KF2

>>160762625
Yes

>>160694841
PEE VEE EE GAME

>>160764323
Well, he complains forever about reseting the exp, that shit is outdated as fuck.

>refunding after already playing 200+ hours

that is twice as shitty as anything twi has ever done with kf2

>>160767065
>As shitty as half-assing a perk because they needed to push out the game
>As shitty as scrapping Crawlers on walls
>As shitty as doubledipping with MTs in EA
Yeah, okay

>>160768037
They don't plan on addding Crawlers on walls now??? Refunding this shit ASAP

sharpshooter is not as enjoyable in this as it was in kf

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Am I the only one that enjoys medic less because his guns look like complete shit and don't feel very good to shoot ?

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>>160768565
Im too busy sucking cocks to bother trying to shoot anything

How long do I have to wait for support to accept my refund ticket?

>>160768565
I like him less because you no longer have to git gud with the darts, but that's both a positive and negative I suppose.

>>160769668
That and I feel like medicks are less of unkillable sanics that they were in KF1.

>>160755363
>>160757095
>Play on free weekend
>Get some flash card thing
>Sell it immediately for a dollar
>Price since then dropped to practically zero
>Never bought the game
Thanks I guess.

>>160768565
Medic guns are just peashooters and the rifle has an abysmal recoil, I have to buy it because of the heal charge rate but honestly I would rather to stick to the shitty shotgun, at least with that I can actually aim my shots.

Also I don't understand why people are so butthurt about the game, when I bought the EA I was expecting KF1 with prettier graphics, and honestly I got that, I wasn't even aware of the martial artist thing until it got chopped.

How the fuck can people kite bosses? They run at least 3 times the player's speed? Whenever I tried to sprint away they always catch up. What's the fucking secret?

>>160770680
learn the maps
abuse vertical drops

>>160770680
Learn to move around maps, stairs and drop points are your friends.
Also when they are about to hit you, try to jump so that way you can put some distance between you and the boss.

>>160737782
bosses blow up doors in 1 hit

>>160768565
i feel the same

>>160770680
you must play the mind games, friend
make enemy the enemy of your enemy

>All this salt on the forums over people refunding
Lmao

>>160764789
That's exactly what I've been doing!
I rarely ever see a player using their syringe on someone else. Pubs only care about self-heals, even when they're at 95% health and their team mate in trouble is at 30%
It saddens me to see such a general lack of care
The general skill level was a fair bunch higher in KF1

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>Play Suicidal with some random pubbies
>Get over 1000 kills as Commando
>Solo Patty's last two phases as Gunslinger
>Most damage and big zeds kills
>Wonder wtf were this guys doing

>>160770680
Don't stay in the open, kite around something that you can circle around fast enough, like the ambulance on Paris or the train car on Hostile Grounds. AI's melee gets stupid when you take sharp turns, especially with Patty. Solo'd HoE as lvl5 Survivalist like this.

>>160774420
Where? Not seen a single thread, although only looked in the general discussion section.

>>160770680
One thing that has helped me do damage and escape the boss, is the Hunting Shotgun. Right as they get close, about to trigger a melee animation, jump and then double barrel, you will hit the boss and avoid the melee swing by flying backwards. That same boost can also help you gain some distance from the boss and dodge around corners faster.

>Call TWI jews for pushing microtransactions into early access
>Abuse loophole to refund a game
Whited Sepulchres

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>>160735841

Don't forget the worst thing about Patty

>When Patty's health gets low, he'll try to run away to heal
>But if you can stop him from escaping, you can kill him before he gets the chance!

>Patty AI decides that there's no escape
>Doesn't even try to run away, just instaheals on the spot with no animation
>mfw seeing this for the first time on Containment Station HOE

>>160756191

t. Yoshiro

>>160776090
thats because this is a magdumping game with out any nuance compared to kf1
enraging the scrake is proper play now, everyone just shoots it. I blame FP rage timer, people think big zeds are to be spammed instead of saved for opportune moments

>>160780067
>>>160776090
>thats because this is a magdumping game with out any nuance compared to kf1
>enraging the scrake is proper play now, everyone just shoots it. I blame FP rage timer, people think big zeds are to be spammed instead of saved for opportune moments
Been killed a couple times now while clearing trash because some jackass dragged a Scrake my way and managed to "dump aggro" onto me. Also by FP rage timer, are you referring to how they auto rage even when they can't see you?

>>160781553
>are you referring to how they auto rage even when they can't see you?
Yeah

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Hey guys, game released means no more perks? What about the martial artist? Is tripwire going to worry on Rising Storm 2?

>>160782186
I dunno man

Demolitions didn't exist in KF1 for a year or two

>>160782186
I do believe they said that they were planning for more perks after release. Although I can't actually find a quote.

At least I fucking hope so because the Survivalist was the most underwhelming shit in the world.

>>160769630
Took me about 4 hours. Now I have to wait 0-12 hours to get schekels back

>>160750925
once you hit level 5 one of the skills for that level lets you walk and run faster, and gives you a health regen as well, so yeah

>>160752701
Support is definitely one of them, probably has one of the best T1 guns in the game(by level five you can one shot anything up through Gorefasts on Normal except Bloats), and the endgame Boomstick/AA-12 combo can handle everything except Fleshpounds and Bloats with ease

although really the only outright bad perk currently is Firebug(although Survivalist is definitely more of a gimmick than an actually good perk)

>>160768565
Medic Pistol is kinda ass, but I'd say Medic SMG is actually pretty decent, and Medic Shotgun is also decent

>>160783491

Agreed.

It wouldn't surprise me if TW said AYY LMAO WE LISTENED TO THE CONSUM- I MEAN, FANS, AND HAVE DECIDED TO MAKE MARTIAL ARTIST FOR RELEASE IN 2017 :D

As a paid DLC

martial artist is the worst waifu and it was canceled after TWI saw the perk girl.

>>160784152
>Boomstick/AA-12 combo can handle everything except Fleshpounds and Bloats
Fleshpound needs one AA12 mag to the head and Bloats need one alt shot from DBS, so it's pretty easy.

>Medic Pistol is kinda ass, but I'd say Medic SMG is actually pretty decent, and Medic Shotgun is also decent
Medic Pistol is great as pistols go, SMG is shit - skip it and Medic Shotgun is shit - skip it.

Is this worth picking up? bought it a few weeks ago but got bored and returned it after a few hours. The following morning I had a strange urge to go back and play it but thought I'd wait until the full release to re-buy it. Seems a lot of people like the game but there's maybe some vocal minority that really hates it. A little background, I've never played kf1.

>>160791168
It isn't really a mere vocal minority.
A LOT of people are disappointed in the game, and it shows based on sales and number of returns (especially compared to the first one). Reviews aren't exactly stellar either.

It had a REALLY bad early access cycle, and the devs are shit at this point.

>>160786580
>2017
you mean 2020?

>>160791168
It's a great game, but if it didn't suck you in right away, you'll probably drop it after few hours again.

>>160791168
It's worth getting if you like horde mode multiplayer co-op shooters. It's got more content coming next year. New zed variants, new maps, new boss, new weapons for existing perks, etc. Also what >>160792546 said.

Here's some reasons why people are refunding the game currently, some are more legit then others.
>Game was said to launch with 3 bosses, launched with 2
>One of the planned melee perks (martial artist) was dropped and replaced with a "jack of all trades, master of none" perk (survivalist). This upsets me too.
>Spent dev time to add a PvP gameplay mode nobody wanted
>Spent dev time to add an ingame cash shop for cosmetics
>Said they won't have the game on sale during EA before putting it on sale numerous times
>Some quick voice commands removed for the sequel (like insult players)
>One of the lead developers came out on the forums as an SJW, this hasn't affected the game
>You can refund a game after it's out of EA, some people are simply abusing the system (and possibly buying it for less on sale)
>It's just more of the same compared to KF1
>It's too different compared to KF1
>The game's overall tone is different for the worse (player characters are more quirky)
>Less content than KF1 which has 10+ years worth of content and mod support
>Female characters annoy some people
>While KF2 had a better EA cycle than a lot of other EA games, Tripwire boasted they were "doing early access right". They since kept missing all of their update deadlines which were unrealistic to begin with.
And the list goes on.

There's this understandable "they fucked me, I'll fuck them" mentality going on with the refunds. TWI has never had the smoothest of launches. See Red Orchestra 2. I've put 316 hours into the game so far and feel like I've got my money's worth so I don't really feel like refunding the game myself.

>>160791804
It is a vocal minority.
>based on sales
Killing Floor 1 has been out for 8 years and has been priced as low as $5 at times with the highest price being $10 less than KF2. KF2 has only been out for a year, it's lowest price has been the same as KF1's highest, yet it has had 1/3 of KF1's sales.
>number of returns
You could provide a source for this information
>reviews
Reviews from office sites have been vomiting nothing but praise. Steam reviews are listed as mostly positive, with most saying its a good game but "it's not a good killing floor sequel"

>>160791168
Its a good game, just not as good as the first one.

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;^)

>>160795793
>C$

Kill yourself fucking leaf

>>160794826
The first is an accidental masterpiece. They can't make it better because 2 is trying to be great.

>Fell for TWI's jewish tricks
>Now I can get my money back

Nice try merchants

you lied to me /kfg/, survivalist is lots of fun with double barrel shotgun and grenade launcher.

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>>160799246
>I've never used DBS as Support running Salvo and Tight Choke
No, you just don't know the meaning of fun. Support with DBS sends zeds flying with for force of a freight train.

>>160799246
Survivalist is really fun. I run HSG, RPG and Deagle or Med Pistol for Sui/HoE. It's lots of fun. Healing nades for me and others, ability to solo bigs and clear trash. The biggest issue is when there is a competent Demo or Sharp. They basically do everything I could and I end up not really doing a whole lot even though I'm able to. I just do some minor chipping in and some minor healing, at which point I'd rather just be Support.

Now if Support gave bonuses to the Medic Shotgun, I'd be happy for days.

>see thread
>get nostalgic
>want to chat up some /kf2g/ people i used to play with and maybe play a game with them
>all of them deleted me from their friends list

;_;

>>160802256
join the discord
it's just as bad as it was back in the day

>>160802418
back when i played with them discord wasn't a thing

>>160802730
Yeah, it was like ~2.5 months ago
everyone just abandoned Steam chat and started shitposting discord

>>160802418
>it's just as bad as it was back in the day
Except that now there's mods that delete individual posts they don't like. It's much worse.

>>160802827
?
it's mostly just porn posts outside the porn channel
and their own posts after a second or two to meme
It's pretty laissez faire as things go

>>160802256
fuck dude
just looking through the kf2g steam group and seeing all those people that are no longer on my friends list is kinda depressing

>>160793141
did they ever actually say they were going to add 3 bosses or was that just speculation based on voice lines?

>>160803686
They said they were adding another, and there's a lot of voice work done for an electricity based Matriarch boss

>>160802256
>"You have 44 Friends who play Killing Floor 2"
>95% don't play the game anymore
>5% are people who still play it from time to time, but I don't care about them that much

When are we going to get rekt by Husks again?

>>160805951
>>160802256
I hear you. I have 235 people who own KF2 and only 4 actually play it.

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>>160806512

CHARLIE KALASH

HOLY FUCK BLAST FROM THE PAST

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

So, I've bought it for $12,5 in april and haven't played since then. Got only 2 hours in. What class is viable in the beginning? Tried Commando and Berserker. I think the most expensive zerk weapon is really fucking useless. Don't really understand how you can kill scrake fast without taking much damage as zerk.

>>160812015
As long as you start off in Hard, you should manage to play as all the classes (aside from firebug). If you're talking about the eviscerator berserker weapon, its very good against scrakes when you headshot them

>>160812015
it's like 2 headshots to decapitate one, depending on difficulty/level

Zerker is really weak early on. He needs a lot of perk skills to be functional

>>160812902
But how do you get more sawblades? Ammo pick-ups only get you fuel for secondary attack. I think I saw green sawblade icon, but it was just floating above the ground and I couldn't do anything with it.
Also, Patriarch was kinda weak on hard. Killed him pretty fast with running around the bus in paris and bonking him on the head with explosive hammer.

>>160813160
ammo pickups get you 5 sawblades

Just picked this up to play with a friend. Kinda liked the first game, despite it's clunky gameplay. And I don't know how to properly kill fleshpound here. At least with chainsaw guys you see that they react to headshots and good hits. Fleshpound just charges at you on first ocassion.

>>160813487
fp will charge after ~10 seconds of seeing a player, or when you deal enough damage to him

Explosives will destroy him

>>160813160
if you walk over the green icon then you pick it back up

it can be a little wonky

Best map?
Best range weapon for low level?
Best melee weapon for low level?

>>160814468
>evac point
>pulverizer
>Kriss or AA12

>>160814732
You dyslexic fuck

>outpost most comfy
>katana
>aa12

>>160814468
>Paris
>Using range weapons
>Zweihander

What's the discord server?

>>160815482
dont even

you seriously don't want to

>>160815650
is it just people bragging about refunds and complaining about how much they hate tripwire?

>>160815650
If it's bad I'll leave but don't have a link currently

>>160815817
check steam group
it's a bit quiet now because it's not American hours

Where can I download the perk grindan map

>>160815482
>>160815817
>>160817516
If you feel like hurting yourself I'll enable you.
https://discord.gg/7fX2bqv

70.178.17.101:7777 password=rage

/kfg/ husk floor

>>160793141
"SJW" dev made people refund

shit imagine being THAT insecure

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>haven't touched game since SWAT perk update
>come back to /kfg/ to see how the release is going
>everyone is talking about refunds

Wow, really?

I paid $4.09 for the game and got 119 hours of enjoyment while it was still in beta. And that's pretty fucking casual compared to some of you fuckers. Refunds, really?

>>160822394
/v/ is full of jews

>>160822394
Yes, because I've bought it when it went EA for full price. Now I've refund it and bought key from cdkeys for $8.5

>>160822394
How the hell did you pay $4?

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>>160822697
Abusing Amazon no-rush, digital credits like I assume everyone else does...

>>160823124
what the fuck, so you order shit and just spam no rush?

>Game is in one of the better states its ever been
>It has flaws and firebug is still over nerfed but nothing to horrible
>Thread is nothing but whiny children with thousands of hours in the game abusing loopholes to refund

Its official, you have guys have beaten Katawa Shoujo as the most pathetic general.

Are EMP grenades worth it? It seems that they don't do shit.

>>160824459
they stop big zeds from raging iirc which is redundant anyway since you're faster than them

>>160823930
>gunslinger

>>160823930
Noice webbum. What map is that?

>>160823893
You're one pathetic piece of shit for caring about something so petty the way you do.

>>160824548
it's still good to do in case the raging Zed is charging a slower teammate.

you're not a Rambozerker, are you?

>>160825536
>you're not a Rambozerker, are you?
Zerker, Slinger, Medic are all classes that can and should fight seperate from the team. In the hands of good players they really don't need their team at all and can solo every single wave. There is nothing wrong with going Rambo.

>>160825604
>Medic
>classes that can and should fight
U wot
Medic in the core is a team player.

>>160825651
Only shitters need a medic, and only shit medics need to stay with their team

The medic has two very well defined roles since KF1:

>1, a speedy tank that can take on every thing in the game with kiting and aim
>2, holding the zerker's leash and keeping him healed

It's not the medic's job to babysit the team

>>160825728
>2, holding the zerker's leash and keeping him healed
>not a team play
Nigga, you contradict yourself.

>>160825838
As in, the medic and zerker rambo together (But they don't even have to, see 1). Only they are ever needed in a six man or higher team. The rest are there just to job for the dynamic duo.

What is this VS mode? Is it like l4d? I don't think it would be interesting, considering that all zeds attack the same in melee. No tactical shit like with jockey/smoker/spitter.

>>160825604
homie they get bonus XP for kills near teammates, that should tell you something

>>160825895
heh how about if the whole team rambos together?

then it'd make everything even more effective heh

>play zerker
>can solo HoE with 5 mongoloids
>play perk with no mobility or resistances
>die

ok

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>>160830405
>have the most fun while playing zerk and medic
>they both make the game incredibly easy even if the rest of your team is retarded

>>160831008
>>160830405
I could never go back to 'regular' perks in KF1 after discovering the glory that is Berserker.

The way you just speed around and tornado your way through waves is so satisfying. It's so fast-paced and up close, no other perk even comes close to feeling this good.

Servers should just auto-kick survivalists.
That perk does nothing.

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>>160832658
>people already put 1k+ hours into an early access game
>despite it being released it's still pretty much still the earl access version

>>160784152
Thanks for the advice my dude.

Should I buy Rimworld with my refund bucks?

>can't get a refund because I gifted the free copy of kf1 to someone
At least I have another developer to add to the 'never buy from' list

hello yes
is this game bad now

>52 ping
>constantly warping around like it's DBZ
WHY
I JUST WANT TO BERSERK

>>160835654
Nah. It's the best it's ever been.