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12 days 13 hours

>Breach league
https://www.pathofexile.com/breach
>2.4.2 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1767834
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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>>160650614
Any good SweetFX or something to go along with PoE?
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>>160547724
>free
>>160549620
>free
>>160553223
>free
>>160566196
>free
>>160566304
>free
>>160568902
>free
>>160574445
>free
>>160576161
>free
>>160586523
>free
>>160602102
>FREE
>>160604278
>free
>>160606124
>Free
>>160621118
>free
>>160602362
>F R E E
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Daily reminder to vote for new guild tag

http://www.strawpoll.me/11684044
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So what do you think Kripp's secret build is? He really has no reason to lie about it.

>11k "ehp"
>max block
>20k armour
>20k evasion
>1mil. dps
>without flasks
>"100% will be nerfed"
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>>160650726
Have you tried turning your depression on and off?
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newish player here, does /vg/ have a guild or something?
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>>160651212
see >>160650934
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>>160650980
Scourge necromancer blade flurry? That'd give you the block and put you in the right part of the tree but 1 million dps implies stacking aoe something.
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>>160650980
>So what do you think Kripp's secret build is?
What the fuck are you on about?
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Daily reminder Fins are shower spooge
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>>160651519
He's been talking about his secret build for like a year, but hasn't been able to play a fresh league from day 1 with it, because of other releases. He's been completely serious about it, that it is really overpowered and will be nerfed as soon as he reveals it.

>>160651428
Can't be blade flurry since it's much older than that.
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>>160651719
Post yfw Kripp is catposter
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>>160651719
Wait, hes playing 2.5? I thought his schedule was fully occupied with nothing but memestone those days
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>>160651860
He'll try, but memestone is releasing a new expansion around that time, so probably not.
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>>160651837
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>>160651719
I remember when he came back in perandus and made a super secret special snowflake trypanon build that many had theorized before, it was terrible, really fucking bad.
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>>160652391
He's come back almost every league, but just played meme builds for a couple of days, because it's late in the league. I don't think he's too far gone yet to be completely wrong about the secret build he's literally been saving just for a fresh league start.
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did the update kill PoEhuD?
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>>160652074
>Cats when damage taken
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How retarded is a crit ele Deadeye ST? I really don't wanna play Inquisitor.
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I like Blade Flurry, it's such a good attack (spell)
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>>160653724
it works fine
>>160653897
yea
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>>160653724
Swap ST for Lightning Strike and you have a better build. 4 Link Vaal Lightning Strike is all the single target you'll need for most bosses as well.
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>>160650726
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so /poeg/ has taught me to never run maps below 1500 IIQ, or 1000IIQ with 100% atlas bonus, and I've been doing that. Never asked myself for what purpose that is though.
Is it to maximize the chance to get a return map or is it to maximize profit?
If it is for profit, after how many chaos orb uses trying to get the fitting IIQ should I stop rerolling and just run the map?
I sometimes have to roll a map 4 or 5 times to get the right IIQ, and I feel like I don't really come out with a profit after running the map.
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>so /poeg/ has taught me
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>>160654105
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>>160654041
It's a balancing act. Reduce the acceptable map coefficient and you reduce your overhead costs, leading to increased potential profit, increase it and you maintain a higher level of consistency but reduce the profit you would otherwise make.

You need to work out a coefficient that works best for you, really, and it also depends on if there are any map mods you can't run.
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>try voidheart resolute technique blade flurry slayer
>it's shit damage for level 88 (respecd a character)

wew. im either doing something wrong or I need to be a meme assassin.
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Romira's Banquetはnoob trapですか?
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>>160654579
>.gif
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post your 2.5 league starter builds

If Essences stay in the game and the build isn't nerfed too hard, I'll go ED
Otherwise probably Elementalist Flameblast or EQ Slayer
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>>160654980
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>>160654980
ED or max block chaos BF Scion
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>>160654980
I only come back at league start to try the new skills. So with that in mind, I wish dual totem Blight were a good idea, and since it's not, probably dual-wield gladiator Blade Flurry.
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>>160654980
If Blade Flurry remains as-is, I'll play that

Otherwise, FB Totems with that fancy new shield
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Has anyone tried scorching pissray on totems?
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>>160655212
It's good as a 4L support for any other fire build.

On it's own, it's limited by the fact that with sufficient cast speed, you get very little benefit from multiple totems.
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>>160655212
ziggyd has
check out his new video
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>>160654980
I want to be a unique slowflake but GGG wont let me so blade flurry
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>>160655212
It's the wither totem of fire builds.
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>mfw everyone falls for the meme flurry hype and can't clear t3 maps because they realize there's no good dagger/claw/1h sword early in the league
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>>160654980
Ignite Vortex, unless Assassin is nerfed for whatever stupid reason.

Otherwise either ED Heirophant or McFlurry.
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>>160655432
>not farming dried lakes until 90

how do you do it?
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how do i join guild senpaitachi?
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>>160655545
How are you going to craft a good dagger even with a lot of currency in the event of essences being gone? you can't even go chaos/poison stacking either because essences of envy would be gone.
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>>160655432
>step 1 find a white demon dagger
>step 2 apply 4 whetstones
>76 pdps
still enough to go through t10 maps

literally all you need is added chaos damage support and you're basically set until guardians. King of the forest did uber atziri with a white crude bow.
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>>160655874
>King of the forest did uber atziri with a white crude bow.
Because of double, even triple dipping projectile poison damage. It's not going to work as well with a melee attack where your avenues for double dipping are basically limited to AoE damage and Conc Effect. It'll hit fast, but unlike Barrage, it's not going to hurt much with just an Added Chaos.
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>>160655432
Allure, Rive, Touch of Anguish, Izaro's Dilemma, Doubting Knight, Scaeva, Dreamfeather, Scourge, Seventh Sun Razor

All available for under 10c within a week of league start, and will push into red maps fairly easily with a half-decent build.

Then you upgrade into an actual weapon.
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>>160656045
>Allure, Rive, Touch of Anguish, Izaro's Dilemma, Doubting Knight, Scaeva, Dreamfeather,
hot garbage and you know it because no one ever bothered building around those

dreamfeather is borderline acceptable if you stack tons of evasion but remains a meme weapon without

>Scourge, Seventh Sun Razor
those are guardian drops and easily 1-2+ ex even late in the league, at least in hardcore
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>>160654980
>cast on melee kill animate weap/guardian BF
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>scorching ray's debuff can't be ele prolif'd
fuck you chris
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>>160656034
I'm not saying you're gonna be running shaper with a glass shank, but you can easily get up to red maps purely off poison double dipping from support gems and tree with any remotely usable weapon.

Hell, buy a set of rabid rhoa for 4c. That might even get you up to running cores. Maybe.
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>>160656193
>Scourge, Seventh Sun Razor
>1-2+ ex

Top fucking kek

Are you literally retarded

>hot garbage

Sure, but it's hot garbage that will literally clear red maps with ease.
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>>160656275
http://poe.trade/search/natahakakonait
1ex for the cheapest scourge you can find in EHC and we're in dead fucking league period where prices have tanked a lot

I remember it being 5+ ex when people were barely starting to farm guardians and you probably don't want to wait that long to have your build up and running
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>>160656365
So use a RotSS or Scaeva
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Why is there a Iron Grip keystone but no Iron Will keystone?
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>>160656874
why is there a chaos innoculation keystone but no elemental innoculation keystone?
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why is there no physical innoculation keystone?
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>>160656958
ok your combined life and es pool is reduced to 1 and you can no longer take elemental damage
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>>160657080
>>160656958
where is my inoculation inoculation that instantly kills all CI fags near me
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If you aren't playing CI, you are gimping you'reself
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>>160656874
Because there would be no good way to balance it. If you put it near STR classes, it's free damage at no cost. If you put it near DEX or INT classes, it becomes a useless keystone that no one picks, kinda like old MoM near Duelist.

The balance ofo Iron Grip lies in the commitment to either picking RT and a lot of STR stacking or traversing the entire tree for crit clusters and accuracy which is incompatible with STR stacking. It's hardly a useful keystone, more of a bandaid for niche Lioneye bow duelists.
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>>160657508
>Because there would be no good way to balance it.
Then how come melee exists?
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dumb catposter
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>tfw breach is literally just pacific rim
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>>160657786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH_6iFYiryY
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>>160657786
except we don't get mechs and it's filled with plotholes
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>>160657786
except melee was viable in Pacific Rim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlvb-QvEm1g
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>life will always be worse than ES
>melee (namelock) will always be worse than everything else

There is no way out.
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>>160658580
>>life will always be worse than ES
This hasn't been the case up until recently and is very arguable once you take the power of perma-flasks or VP out. Either of which might happen down the road.
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>>160654980
Starforge Lacerate + Ancestral Warchief
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>>160658841
>league starter
Starforge is a league ender
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>>160658870
Ok then Lacerate + Ancestral Warchief
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>>160654980
ED Occultist
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i gotta say that after 1k hours (and dont get me wrong i'll keep playing) this is one of the WORST designed games of all time

1) half the time i die is due to framelag or offscreen reflect or synclag or something. i don't even know what causes approximately half of my deaths in this game i just suddenly fucking die. sometimes the synclag is so bad at like 20 ping that i just randomly end up warped into a group of enemies dead and the ressurect button doesnt show for a few seconds. the other half is due to the retarded skill execution i.e. ill open a strongbox and tried to lightning warp away but a fucking small rock will block the pathing and i die.

2) i'm sorry LOL but I don't have 10k hours to spend on this game, maybe life is different in new Zealand but in america we have jobs and friends and families. if you are even slightly non-autistic the only option to have a top tier character is to RMT or get extremely lucky.

3) this game's balance system is literally the following: learn what kind of damage you do and learn what you are weak to and then make the enemies resistant to your damage and exploit your weakness. this would be cool if it was an actual AI, but it's not it's just a worthless fucking affix that makes the game harder for me. tell me, why did i level up 90 levels just so that the game could counter me with affixes at every turn, FULL RESPEC doesn't even matter within a few maps the game readjusts to you and will continue to flood you with affixes that make your life a living hell

4) most uninspired skills ever

5) passive tree literally consists of health tax nodes that you have to take, full respeccing is literally one of the most expensive things you can do in the game why?
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>>160659086
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>>160659086
You make some pretty interesting points, but allow me to present a modest rebuttal:

Neck yourself my man
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his criticisms aren't wrong
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they're all vague or misdirected
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>>160659329
>vague
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>performance is bad
>the game is for no lifers
>balance is bad
>skills are uninspired
>tree has no depth
in other news, i don't like violence and we should really do something about world hunger because people starving is totally not coll man
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>its a 2000% IIQ corrupted unid'd Abyss map gives no return at all, not even a yellow map, episode
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>it's an "I'm entitled to map drops" post
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>>160659932
Shit happens bruh

It feels bad, but these things average out in the end. I ran a streak of 8 T15s without a red map, then got three T16s from a single one.
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Whats better for aoe gem setup, heavy or double strike?
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>Breach league will come around the same time nostalrius does

What do i play?
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>>160660214

depends
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>>160660214
heavy tends to push your target away with knockback and can become annoying

but if you're using aoe for these you're playing the game wrong
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>>160660301

anything else but those 2 things
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>>160660379
recommend me anything else
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>log in
>ask guild mate if scorching ray is fun
>he ignores me
>log out
>shitpost
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I'm on act 3 with no idea how to build anything. When should i worry about crafting and such, after i beat the game or sooner? I started with the shadow class
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>>160660753
just fuck around for 2 weeks and then do it again in the new league
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alright then
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>>160660753
>after i beat the game
kys retard
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>>160654980
flameblast elementalist or some EQ
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>>160654980
stealin all your builds lmao
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Am i crazy if i use 1 skill for aoe, 1 skill for single target, 1 totem for debuff and 1 skill for curse on hit + frenzy charge when i can just use one op skill that auto aim? Can you even put your totem on a swapped weapon? Does it kill it when you swap?
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my GPU was making a really high-pitched squealing noise poeg

i restarted my pc and it seems to be fixed

i hope it's not anything serious
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>>160662105
everything is fine anon
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>9.2k ES at level 70
>still wearing a 200 ES chest, 50 ES gloves and 100 ES boots
WTF I hate life builds now..
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>>160662105
Mine started doing this, the fan went and it was toast in a couple months.
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>>160662210
>tfw when 300%+ max ES and a 600 ES chest and still only 7.5k es with discipline + aura nodes

how the fuck do u have 9k?
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>>160662563
I haven't picked damage nodes yet
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If this had gotten a decent corrupt. Christ..
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>>160663591
delete this lewd image immediately
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>>160660465

Brigador is really good
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>>160663634
Done.
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What build are you gonna play on POE - Breach ?
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>>160664065
Single target namelock melee with claws
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>>160662105
Maybe your GPU is going on full load? Enable v-sync Anon, you dont need 300 fps for poe.
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>>160664065
Heavy strike with aoe and miltistrike using callinelus malleus
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>Decide to check the state of poe
>Go check the new channeled spells
>One is purple lighting trendils
>Other is pseudo incinerate
>Flurry was supposed to be omnislash/sleight of fist
>Its flameblast with some random autoattack while channeling cause people wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole if they had to stand really close to enemies without moving as melee

I mean how hard could it be to go copy shit from random Warcraft 3 custom maps

I mean look at Tkok for example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsrydrOpU5M
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What's a good leveling skill for physical damage character? I started split arrow/caustic arrow but it's kind of underwhelming on self found no currency gear. I'm trying tofigure out what'll carry my shitter ass to Blade Flurry fastest for the next league.
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>>160659086
>1) half the time i die

stopped reading here
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>>160654980
melee

That means earthquake and likely slayer. I can go icecrash but GGG needs to buff that by 20-30% so it matches earthquake. But GGG doesn't understand balance and randomly nerfs and buffs. Just look at blade fury and blade vortex and bladefall lmao.

If it starts with ''blade'' you know its going to be broken as shit.
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>>160655432
Scaeva gladius, really common unique sword that is fine until high tier maps (then you'll likely want 300+ dps crit sword).

>>160656193
Because when scaeva came out everyone was doing earthquake builds, if you were doing reave it was still worth to get. But you replace Scaeva later on with a better sword, but its just a crit sword that you can easily get before the higher items.
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>>160664065
I was gonna make a viable elemental hit build but then I realized reddit doesn't deserve it.
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>>160655874
Literally plebbit.
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is blade flurry as good as people are saying, or is it just a meme?
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anyone else depressed ALL the time?
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>>160665087
Blight was always doomed, because it was always gonna be chaos lightning tendrils.
Incinerate is effectively a better Desecrate totem for fire builds, because obviously fire builds needed a buff, unlike the ice and lightning builds.
Blady Flurry is gonna get nerfed hard, because melee (and even 'melee' like this) are just not allowed to be good or fun, ever.
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>>160654980
bf duelist
maybe fireball prolif with ray totem
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>>160666886
>Desecrate totem
???
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>>160666961
By Desecrate I meant Wither.
I'm playing a summoner right now, dragged that gem around just typed out what my eyes had focused on a few seconds earlier because I have the dumb today.
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it's a shame scorching pee wasn't a cold skill
no good cold skills currently
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is dominating blow the worst fucking skill in the world

the minions literally roam around in circles

might as well just call if pacifying blow
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>>160667563
you can convert cold skills to fire with a pyre ring
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how do i make my skills robotech
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>framelag
>synclag
I can't believe I made it that far.
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>>160667623
>playing conversion meme builds
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Tell me why the next league won't just be BV pathfinders all over again.
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>>160668195
because it will just be BF pathfinders all over again
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>>160668271
Not enough damage to just face tank shaper beam with vinkar's leech.
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>>160668195
You have no certainty GGG won't nerf PF/Master Surgeon/Vinktar/Harvest. Look what happened to CoC or Bladefall mines in 2.4. It's in their best interest to shake up the meta and the community has been VERY vocal about how they feel about CI BV PF
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>>160668547
the only ones complaining about BV ci are melee scrubs and luckily ggg hates those people already.
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>>160668547
Oh, I thought they had already released the 2.5 patchnotes. People only became vocal about BV this league though, so knowing GGG it will take another 3 leagues for the nerfs.
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pay to trade
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i'm the smartest retard in poeg

nobody retards smarter than me
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Any range of price for this kind of item?
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>>160670008
>10% ms

into the trash it goes
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>>160670008
2 or 3 chaos
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>>160670078
How about this? I'm new to poe, trying to figure out stuff.

Do 10%ms really means this has no value at all, like 1 alch?
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>>160670160
Well, maybe someone dumb will buy it.

But rule of thumb for boots is '30% or vendor'
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>>160670078
>>160670110
>>160670352
alright thanks for the heads up guys
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What ascendancy for the most cookie cutter EQ build for HC? I still haven't played that skill.
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Jugg/Slayer
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>>160659932
Should've used sextants
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>>160671054
Scion (Jugg/Slayer ascendancies)
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>>160666758
so you've hit puberty

don't worry, it'll pass in couple/few years
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>>160672916
right
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>>160672916
>it'll pass in a few years
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>>160672916
>he thinks life gets better

LOL
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>>160672916
>don't worry, it'll pass in couple/few years
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>>160672916
>don't worry, it'll pass in couple/few years
But I'm 28, how much longer do I have to wait?
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plan: poeg works together to control the market this league

shitcrows need not apply
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>>160674341
not enough people to compete with rmt + china
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>>160672916
>>160673706
It passes as in you get more rational about it. You can approach the problem of feeling depressed about stuff better, so you won't have those emotional feelings anymore that you have during puberty.
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>>160674749
there's about 15 poopsocking autists in poeg who could do it desu
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aww shit

the build god is at it again
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>>160671054
Marauder juggernaut or duelist slayer. Both work pretty well. Just take a standard template, they almost all look the same anyway. Only differences I see between earthquake builds are if they get certain offensive nodes (that have AS) or not, or if they get endurance charges or more offensive nodes.

There is very little variation. You can build 2h ice crash the same way as earthquake by the way. And since 2h > 1h atm due to ancestral warchief I'd say your only option is to go 2h as melee.
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>>160674341
i can't even control my dick
i've fapped on average 4 times every 5 days this year
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is nugi our guy...
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>>160675508
>literally racing lessons: the streamer
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>>160675508
He just reads the Reddit and formulates his opinions on balance entirely from it, so yeah probably.
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What's /poeg/'s super secret skill to put on cwdt?
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>>160676231
disconect.dll
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>>160676231
Phase Run
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Voidheart went from 40c to 1ex over night.
what the fuck?
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>>160677148
shitcrow
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>>160677148
People are playing "melee" again with Blade Flurry being overpowered.
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you can make a world a better place by being nice
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AN ADVERSARY

SLAIN
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>>160677148
bino's went from 4c to 20c as well
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In a new league, do you keep all your silver coins until mapping or do you use some during leveling?
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>>160678954
you can't get anything good in normal or cruel so save them
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REMINDER

the best way to get rich is to race to red maps and be the first person to find and sell valuable uniques and rares. you can make a fortune in the first few days of the league this way. there's also uber izaro but i consider that to be cheating desu
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>>160679664
maps
challenges
lab
atziri

there are many ways to get rich, so long as you're ahead of the curve

lab is probably the best since you get everything, currency, enchants, red maps that bypass your atlas progression, and ilvl 84 gear
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>>160679878
How do you do uberlab when there's no decent gear on the market?
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>>160680182
EQ Juggernaut/Slayer can do it on day 2/3 with a 5L Marohi
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>>160679664
What if I have a job and can only play a few hours every evening?
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>>160680307
the fuck off and go play d3
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>>160679664
>not selling mortal fragments/atziri items for several ex
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>>160680307
Nolife on the weekends
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>>160680256
I guess jeweller's touch makes getting it trivial.
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Can melee be good?
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can you stfu
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What's the point of stacking armor when it doesn't protect against elemental damage?
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>>160680307
>tfw have a gf and now i'd much rather just play PoE all day instead

No matter what, you'll never be truly happy.
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>>160664065
I'm going to play a spectral thrower. Always wanted to try it.
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>>>/v/358231281
WHO did this?
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>>160654980
ED
Cyclone Slayer
Spectral Throw+Poison Scion
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>>160654980
planning to farm uber lab: Chieftain RF + scorching totem so that way will be better for boss fights, r-right?
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>>160680256
>>160680182
Don't even need earthquake for it. Just something with high armor, warchief totem and a good enough weapon. Not even marohi specifically.

Any armor based build is very good on Izaro uber since you can just facetank him, and he's not as dangerous.
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desync, lag and freezes are 90% of my deaths in HC

desync and freezes should be gone now, and of course lag is inevitable

combined with ascendency power creep i'm wondering when/if GGG will ever make this game hard again. it's pretty boring these days, and the clearspeed meta isn't enjoyable and gives me a headache
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Why don't people build attack speed on earthquake? Wouldn't more attacks result in more stuns and more damage?
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>>160685374
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>>160685330
>Toast sandwich
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>>160685330
I'm playing on a toaster and simply don't play HC, because a) i die to stupid af shit, because of playing with 10fps and b) i'm a shitter.
I'd be happy if i could play with a stable 30fps at all times.
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https://youtu.be/rMemPVtVOsk?t=5m19s

holy poop poeg

look at that boss
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>>160685330
/ck/ memes belong in /ck/
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>back on my last yellow

That's another 20 chisels down the drain
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>>160685330
>playing HC when you dont have a top tier pc + ssd + fast and stable as fuck connection

you are the only one to blame here m8
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>>160686104
>Chiseling rare maps
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>>160686104
Dude

Chisel before alching, it only takes 4 to reach 20Q that way
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>>160686298
>>160686546
i meant buying higher-tier maps
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hows traditional summoners nowadays?

looks like they can clear red maps in 3-4 minutes solo which seem respectable, plus they can do shaper ez.

Seems bretty good on a new server where you literally just need a +2 helmet and as much energy shield as humanly possible, the 6th link isn't even as dramatic for your spectres so you can just 5link some insanely rolled 800es chest.
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summoners do not work
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>>160686546
at what tier do you start alchying maps?
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>>160687919
They even made it retard-proof for you in Atlas.

Transmute + Aug for white
Alch and go from 6 to 10
Do corrupted 11-15 once (might be cheaper to buy them now), then just chisels and Alch + 1 pack size and just go
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>>160686871
They're fairly slow but they function

Spectres are still a fucking QoL nightmare because you need to re-get your ghosts every time you log out or DC.
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>>160686871
I have completely shit gear on my summoner, and I can do up to t12 with zero effort.

Just grab Bones of Ullr, a +2 Helmet, maybe that zombie head offhand whatever the name was, nobody wants that shit anyway

And you're ready to rock.
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>>160689123

I see videos of summoners killing red map bosses in 2 seconds, guradians, etc as well as doing red corrupted maps in 4-5 minutes solo.

I mean, unless you're a standardshit with hundreds of exalts and just dashing your way 1 shotting everything while being immune to reflect I don't see you going faster than 4 or 5 minutes on a new league.
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>>160689552
It's more an issue that minion AI is still kinda messy and they occasionally just take too long to wander towards packs.
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>>160656193
>Mark of the Doubting Knight is bad
Compared to like, Binos, yeah. But it's still strong enough to carry you well into maps.
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>>160689634

I see, well i dont mind clearing a red corrupted map in 5 minutes vs 4 if it means I can play with the safety of 12k ES even on a new league cause summoners can just blindly stack that shit, plus being able to alt tab and shitpost in safety.
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What's a nice easy build for a newbie to go? Preferably ranger.
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>>160685330
It depends.

You can chose your difficulty in this game.

If you want to play on very easy mode you just equip any skill that starts with ''blade'' , preferably the one that is currently the most overpowered / newest. Then the only extra thing you have to do is get discipline vaal discipline and build energy shield since for some reason GGG thinks its balanced you can have 2x as much energy shield than you can have health.

I think after 2.1 or so GGG just stopped nerfing stuff and were like ''meh its alright''. Last time GGG balanced the game was when they nerfed flame totems, firestorm, ice storm,incinerate, cyclone. And from there they just let it all go, made ascendancy so things got even more insane, let vaal spark go around and then let blade vortex in its current state. Oh and also flameblast totems.... yeah balanced LMAO
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>frost blades is complete fucking shit

Why couldnt they just make it so that attacking the ground would release all 8 extra projectiles to home in on enemies?

thats literally the only thing stopping it from being a good skill.
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>'I may be pushing it... but anything you can further add about the Act V?'

>Is coming next year, and is looking very cool. Is certaintly the most impressive act we've done so far, which is kind of fitting, because is kind of the end of our current storyline. We have to make sure that is the most climaxing act.

wasn't malachai supposed to be the big baddie?Are we gonna beat up god now or what
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watchin the podcast now.

neither the devs nor the hosts seem excited about anything for next league at all. lifting doesn't even seem to be paying attention. the dev basically said "ggg was desperate to bring back the beyond playerbase".

Glad i came back to poe for essence league. I'll come back again when they release act 5.
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>>160691182
Yeah, as near as I can tell from the current lore, all of the problems in wraeclast are directly attributable to the beast, which we've now killed. Meanwhile back home in Oriath, we killed Gravicius and Dominus who were in charge of shit over there so there's nobody there for us to kill, unless the plot has us going there and taking over the power vacuum.
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>>160691182
The Memechai you destroyed is not real
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>>160691182
Act 5 will probably be some sort of time travel league to the peak of atziri's reign over the empire.
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>>160691350
the game is dying sadly
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>>160691350
>>160691654
Its okay, they're making a perandus 2.0 next next league
Relax, it's ok
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>>160691350
>>160691654
>>160691739
>"""""implying""""""
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>>160691654
Not necessarily. Essence league brought back near poe's historical peak player numbers. The problem is how fast the hardcore leagues die off.
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>implying breach is not the GOAT league
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>>160691867
>take away HC leagues
>make game faceroll "watch tv while playing" easy
>wonder why the HC base dies

yeah they're fucking retarded
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>>160691867
You realize that means that a huge number of their players came back for this league only to be massively turned off and left immediately, right?
>>
>leveling is still cancer
face it, that's the real reason why the playerbase for hc is dead. Nobody wants to sit through 10 hours of doing the same exact content over and over again because of one volatile.
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>>160692625
it only takes about 7 hours to reach a4m

git gud
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>play for MUH DRILLS of DANGER
>complains about dying
Cucks
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>>160692772
>not grinding dried lake for 3 more hours to get enough levels to map safely
wew lad
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>>160691182
The beast that wraeclast lies upon
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>>160693052
Was killing the hearts during malachai fight not killing the whole beast?
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>>160692401
each league is just more of the same shit

pretty boring desu
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>rng fucking me relentlessly with map drops
>red maps start at 1c each

How the fuck am I supposed to afford running that shit?
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>>160691182
There's other neighbouring lands like Ezomyr, but still, Act 4 would fit better as a finale, unless they make you go to some kind of shaper realm.
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>>160693483
nigga you average more than 1c of drops from random currency in a red map. wait until you can't sustain t14+ because of never getting drops then come back
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What do you think about my evasion assassin flurry man as league starter? Other option would be block gladi
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>>160693545
Shaper is still going to be map content, which is still going to be after the plot, e.g. after act 5. Zana doesn't know about the shaper before you get to maps so 0% chance there's anything shaper related in A5.
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>want to buy tabs
>don't want to support GGG
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>>160693747
>assassin with no power charges on tree
y tho
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>>160693810

RMT an account with one then.
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GGG still thinks ES is worse than life. What the fuck?
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>>160693874
I mean, he's got Disembowling which kind of makes up for it.
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>>160693874
Fatal toxins and ""free""" power charge generation. Grabbing them on the tree just sucks for melee
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>>160694509
135% crit is slightly higher than the 116 you'd get from 2 charges on tree, but not having the extra 1% base is pretty huge.
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>>160693747
it's really not good. go north/south not west and take frenzy charges and just take more efficient clusters instead of bad ones
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>>160694861
Multi though

The question is if he'll be able to cap crit anyway, or whether he'd sacrifice too much elsewhere to cap crit.
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>>160694397
he said technically tho
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>>160693882
might just give in and buy some tbhdude

really tired of playing with only four tabs
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>>160695750
Are there usually discount at Thanksgiving?
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>>160694397
You're more susceptible to stuns and status ailments as ES.
ES gear is usually way more expensive than life gear.
You don't really need a 10k+ buffer until maps.
It's easier to level up using life.
Most people don't reach maps.

There are probably other reasons as to why they'd be thinking that. I wish someone would get an interview with someone from the balance department.
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>>160696070
There was just a huge stash tab sale a week or two ago, so not likely to go on sale in the near future.
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>>160696137
>Most people don't reach maps.
literally irrelevant

pandering to the lowest common denominator is what's been hurting this game lately

GGG needs to start appealing to the HC poopsockers again otherwise the competitive aspect of the game will completely dry up(it already has)
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will poe ever have a mail system so I can buy shit from people who are offline?
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>new support gem is cast while channeling
great now i don't even have to let go of the mouse button while clearing the entire map with blade flurry
>>
I've got a theory brewing for next league.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Winterheart
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Berek%27s_Pass
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Unstoppable

Is there any way to have a 100% frozen uptime? Cursing yourself with temp chains maybe?
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>>160697813
>actually talking about the game

literally how new are you
>>
!report
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lads whats the highest quality bot for this game
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>tfw you find a cartographer's strongbox but have no currency to use on it
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>>160694210
I wish you never woke up, stupid dumb ass weebsh*t!!!
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>>160697985
I'm sorry, where is the discuss games board?
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>>160697813
>Is there any way to have a 100% frozen uptime?
How stupid can you be?
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>>160697118
Oh for fucks sake.

I was hoping it was gonna be like
>X% Less damage taken while channelling
>X% Increased channelled skill damage
or something. Why do we need another goddamn cast on X skill
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>>160699080
>not wanting to whirling blades around maps while holding right click until there's only the arena left
hey everyone get a load of this guy
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>>160699136
cast when channeling, not cast when whirling
are you retarded or something? neck yourself
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>>160697118
Could you use a movement skill with cast while channeling to let you move while channeling?
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>>160699287
>channeling blade flurry
>cast whirling blades while channeling
what's difficult about that to grasp?
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>>160699384
>cast whirling blades
whirling blades
is an attack
not a spell
you cast spells
not attacks
YOU
STUPID
LITTLE SHIT
WHY THE FUCK IS THIS GENERAL SO CLUELESS
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>2nd phase Lab
>think Izaro is done
>back up - from him
>he fucking leap slams me and 1-shots 5.3k health

thanks GGG
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>>160699384
Whirling Blades is an attack you fuck

Also, nice 4L Blade Flurry plus useless movement shit
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>>160698765
I recommend not talking to me that way.
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>>160699703
>5.3k
so you played a glass cannon and got punished for it
nothing much to see here
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>>160697813
4 Link: CWDT - Frostbite - Temp Chains - Increased Duration
w/
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Shackles_of_the_Wretched
maybe
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How much is a voidheart going to be in the first week?
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why is act 2 so good? i've gotten incredibly tired of all the other acts, but for some reason i never mind doing act 2.
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>>160699840
>>160699703
Dx11 is running smooth as fuck but seriously? Izaro is half HP, he stopped taking damage five seconds ago but thinking he's gonna dash to his podium he fucking leap slams me one more time? The actual fuck?
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>>160700164
i honestly go on autopilot while leveling these days. i never even think about what i'm doing... it's pretty sad desu... 4 years of playing leveling 100s of characters has left me completely numb
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>>160700182
>3 life flasks
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>>160700314
meanwhile my CI character has none :^)
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>>160700314
instant life flask only heal at most 1k a pop, you can use them 3 times each in Izaro fight
assuming you get chunked for 3k that's a whole flask gone

>meanwhile BV PF CI 100% uptime 20% leech and 50% block and immunities

thanks GGG
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>>160700182
>3 life flasks
>no basalt
>purity of elements
?
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>>160700182
GULP
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>>160700182
oh god please just play hardcore for the love of god then you won't suck so bad and the bonus is you won't annoy us with your turdbird posts
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>>160700802
>turdbird

maybe you should annoy us with your hardcore posts instead boy
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Does using the Beyond modifier on a map that already has beyond on it do anything?
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>>160701145
yeah, double the chance to drop souls. double beyonding shit is by far the most fun content this league. Double beyond shaped pit, or 10 sextant shaped crypts
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>>160700890
sure

only demi winners are allowed to post in poeg
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TIL I_NO is a girl that's cute af
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>>160700890
Go where you belong: anywhere else.
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>>160697813
>>160699915
Nope, increased duration would increase the curse duration (skill duration), not the chill/freeze duration which is reduced to zero (non-application) under a threshold:

>Base freeze duration is 60 milliseconds for every 1% of the target's maximum life (before party scaling) dealt by Cold damage, up to a maximum of 50%. If the duration would be below 0.3 seconds, the freeze effect is not applied.
>http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Freeze#Mechanics

If you assume at the very least 6k life (otherwise why bother trying to get 20% life regen), you would need a cold hit of at least 5% your total hp to get frozen, so 120 cold damage at least or 480 pre-resistance mitigation. This is rarely going to be the case, except maybe for those cold skeleton mages or added cold damage maps.

To bypass that threshold, you could use an Auxium to make freeze duration based on your ES instead, and have very little ES. But in order to get somewhat reliably hit by cold damage, you only have Taste of Hate pretty much. Fire damage, Lightning damage, Chaos damage, Physical damage without ToH and degen would not proc any freezes.

All in all, it's pretty much an impossible concept to build around. You need to be a Juggernaut to move around while frozen. You're committing to at least 3 uniques that are otherwise dead weight except for that very unreliable 20% life regen proc and have zero life. You'd be better off doing some weird ZO CI build with a third of the regen, and triple the ES, that would have 100% uptime on the same amount of flat regen and no downside of using shitty uniques. Dy'ness standard ZO CI tank has something like 5k flat ES regen? That's 66% life regen for a 7.5k life build.
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>>160700182
[x] no mitigation from flasks
[x] most likely no mitigation from gear
[X] totem babby with no spatial awareness
[x] most likely didn't ward off the vuln curse
[x] most likely didn't ward off the ele weakness curse
[x] let izaro get buffed from first phase
>WHY DID I GET ONE SHOT WITH 4K LIFE???

Hmmm...
Really makes you think...
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>>160701561
>so 120 cold damage at least or 480 pre-resistance mitigation.
make that 300 and 1200, I was thinking of something else while typing this
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>not even top10
>playing an """""event"""" when the total players were less than 100

lmao
>>
from my point of view, if you're not top 3, you might as well be top 3000 for all i care

do we give medals to the 4th place in olympic competitions? no, barely anyone even remembers bronze medal
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>>160701884
>meanwhile CI just gets 10k ES and tanks everything without mitigation

really
makes
you
think
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>>160702692
you jelly
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>>160702881
It's really not that hard to get the kind of mitigation needed to match 10k ES and no armour on a life build. The vast majority of lab runners are life builds and don't get blown up by a random Izaro off-screen slash. Spatial awareness and manual dodging still remains the best defense.
>>
Is there some easy items you can regularly flip on standard league, or is the market completely settled now? Not in a position to farm for currency right now.
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>>160696415
>Grind achievements are good for the game
Literally go fuck yourself, as in tear off your own baby dick and shove it up your ass.
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>>160703170
>Kill Voll 1200 times
>>
God tier (cancer)
>BV

Top tier
>AW
>FB totems
>ED

Okay tier
>Discharge
>Earthquake
>Tornado Shot

Whatever tier
>Crit spell build
>Ignite builds
>Lacerate
>Spectral Throw

Shit tier
>Flame Surge, Lightning Tendrils, actual melee skills, Glacial Cascade, Shrapnel Shot, Ice shot and a bunch of other shit

what will you be using for Breach poetards?
>>
Is it worth blowing currency to fill in the gaps in white/yellow maps on the atlas? Also, what are some of the cheaper unique maps to run for filling in Atlas completion?
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>>160703268
>no barrage/TS
?
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>>160703268
Blade Flurry is making a grandiose entrance right at god tier cancerous meta tier
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>>160701561
>>160702089

hmmm.... thanks.I wanted to go juggernaut in the next league, since I haven't done one before. I've got twelve days to figure it out, right?
http://pastebin.com/iCPt6BVm
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>>160702916
>jelly
>when I have a top10 demigod

keep trying kiddo
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>>160703268
RF
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>>160703074
Meanwhile all the fucking deaths in lab are people with life builds, even if you do have mitigation yon easily lose 4/5 of your health as a life build.

Mitigation is hard to get for labyrinth and it's very unreliable.

>no flask charge sources - and you need to run them before Izaro if you want any charges
>Enduring Cry is dogshit - especially if you pop IC often then you'll never have enough charges
>Fortify support is hard to apply with something like Leap Slam and can be dangerous with the amount of AoE he spits out, hope you're Champion
>Armor is for retards
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>>160703268
what skill here is best for a newbie tard and wouldnt be too expensive
>>
>>160703484
Im also playing RF, cucklone or shield charge to move/fortify/curse? lets hope single target will be decent with scorching totem
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>>160703341
It's 1 chisel or less for everything up to tier 9s and some t10s. The 1% bonus adds up. Do it.
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>>160703637
Ancestral
ED
Earthquake
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>>160703268
good thinking making tiers during a dead league before balance adjustments. relevant shit youre concerning us with.
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>>160703467
esk is that you
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>>160703672
Cyclone with curse on hit, flammability, fortify, LGoH, and thinking about blind for extra protection.
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>>160703821
based retard
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Anyone else find it amusing that hc challenge league population significantly dropped as soon as GGG decided to make both sc and hc challenge the exact same? It's as if all the pretend hc players ran off with their tail between their legs to sc where they always belonged. Only TRUE hardcore players still play hc challenge leagues now.
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>>160704709
bloodlines and tempest were wet garbage

talisman will forever be known as the last true challenge league because the challenges were actually challenging

this game has been a joke ever since
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>>160703467
how big is your feminine penis, esk?
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>>160703925
this guy do it with cyclone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNpuoGTR3co and liftingnormie with shield charge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB0iy7xwMIk

I also belive the cyclone one is better, but feels worse to play
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>>160705119
Shield charge is nice if you like to go FAST. But RF in general is pretty slow to level and farm, it takes a special kind of autist that doesn't care about such things. You can still stick shield charge somewhere else if you like it.
Also deciding on Doon cuebyari or Doryani's catalyst for weapon.
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>>160703268
Blade Flurry senpai
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>>160701385
You only have that because GGG handed out too many to people that didn't even earn it
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>>160704836
talisman was casual as fuck, you retard
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>>160706758
>the trade challenges were casual
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Can "+1000% increased damage" from tree and equip make any skill good?
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why is Leap Slam such a clunky piece of shit?
Even if you click just slightly out of range your character will walk instead of just jumping max distance.
Since I'm new I'm not sure about that, but when I watch streamers using Shield Charge/Flame Dash/Whirling Blades, they go fucking SANIC MODE across the map. Are those skills just outright better mobilitywise?
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>>160707534
No, because using a better skill with that same +1000% damage would still be better.
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>>160707624
>new ele hit helmet enchant
>+1000% while wielding a fishing rod
make EH great again
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>>160685849
2 things:

what happens to the regular mobs once you enter a breach? is it considered like an alternate dimension or something?

that boss seems cancer. more bullet hole action, as if we needed that. i might not play ED next league if this trend continues
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>>160707612
Using shift with Leap Slam is important, though it will still be slow until you have attack speed on your weapon and a lot of attack speed from either the tree or gear as well.
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>run a double beyond map
>game crashes two times in a row
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>>160707612
shield charge might just be my favorite skill in the entire game because of how fast and good it feels to use

shield charge+faster attacks+culling/fortify+flame dash

top tier shit right there
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>finally feel i'm ready to try a guardian boss, spend a chunk of my savings on a phoenix map
>game crashes each time he uses that fire pulse attack 5 seconds into the fight

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>160708465
At least you didn't crash during shaper twice.
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what passives/auras/uniques/etc are required to make dominating blow actually good?
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>>160708465
Is that a fucking increased duration support on your ED?
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>>160708597
He said he spent a chunk of his savings on a phoenix map, I doubt he can afford a level 3 empower
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>>160708310
since I'm EQ I don't have that much attack speed, but still, it's supported by a lvl20 20q faster attacks, Atziris Disfavour has attack speed on it too, and I have Frenzy charges.

Doesnt matter anymore anyway, next league I'll not be a melee cuck again and use a good mobility skill.
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>>160708773
at least use a less duration for the damage multiplier
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>>160708597
Maybe
I can't afford Empower and it seemed like the best option to boost ED, poison and decay at the same time
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How's the new DX11 render mode?

Does the game actually run like a game of it's stature should now? Or does it still run like complete shit?
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>>160709030
Why don't you try it out and find out yourself?
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>>160709071
i dont feel like downloading the game right now
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>>160703268
>Whatever tier
>>Spectral Throw
Feels bad fampai ...
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>>160650728
good man

how many years have you been doing this for
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>>160709451
nobody cares
fuck off discordshit
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>>160709451
I can't remember
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>>160709532
why you gotta be mad?
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>game plays completely fine outside of beyond maps
>play a beyond map
>connection goes to complete shit every time without fail
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why are we not talking about this

reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/5e0h9m/huge_quality_of_life_changes_for_melee_in_25_from/

ggg making melee great again
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>>160708450
>flame dash
Alternate weapon bow with blink arrow feels nicer to me.
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>>160709874
>reddit.com/r/pathofexile/

i dunno why arent you fucking yourself dead
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>>160709946
all the content here comes directly from reddit, idiot
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>>160709946
How do you know it's shit? Have you been there before faggot?
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Can someone recommend a loot filter?
I'm tired of seeing the screen half covered in item names and sitting there looking over them, but I'm also worried something good will drop and the loot filter will miss it.
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>>160710005
sure thing friend.
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>>160710231
neversink
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>>160710321
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>>160710235
when you quote chris commenting on something, it was posted on reddit

when you post rip videos, it was posted on reddit

when you post screenshots, it was posted on reddit

when you post joe duncan comics, it was posted on reddit

poeg is literally r/pathofexile regurgitated with more stale memes and more vocal retards such as (You)
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>>160709874
amazing
melee will finally be viable

guess ill come back to the game in 2.5, so many good things ive been waiting for
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>>160709874
increased weapon range
auto namelock
+20 weapon range cyclone here i cum
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fact is, reddit is the best source of news and information on the game
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>>160710678
>fact is, reddit is the best source of news and information on the game
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i love going on reddit and downvoting toxic posters who do nothing but criticize GGG gratuitously
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>>160710839
who are you quoting?
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>>160710678
>fact is, reddit is the best source of news and information on the game
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>>160710976
who are you quoting?
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>>160710557
cant wait to see you there.
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>address melee buffs
>don't address life or damage

uuuhhh poetards
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>>160711036
reddit is dogposter's trigger word
watch this: reddit reddit reddit reddit
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>>160710678
>>fact is, reddit is the best source of news and information on the game
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fact is, no matter how hard i scrub my ass it's still dirty.
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>>160711041
it's me, kripp
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kill yourselves
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>>160710678
>>>fact is, reddit is the best source of news and information on the game
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>>160711131
have you heard of this new melee skill called blade flurry
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>>160710474
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>>160711143
who are you quoting?
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>melee has to be not-melee to actually be good

reminds me of terraria
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#160711295
your autism is achieving nothing of worth
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>>160711294
>GGG literally changed a spell to an attack at the last minute to throw people a bone

lmao
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>>160710678
>>>>fact is, reddit is the best source of news and information on the game
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die you freaks
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>>160711294
>melee
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>>160711543
it's going to be a pretty big bone
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>>160710678
>>>>>fact is, reddit is the best source of news and information on the game
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>>160711295
Biggest normalfag here, flip off.
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>>160712097
gay
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>Breech in 2 weeks

why not just bring it out right now no one fucking plays
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>>160712695
development cycles

something an entitled twat like you who needs everything NOW might not be too familiar with
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>>160712695
it's to give people time to level and play a blade flurry character before they nerf the skill into unplayable garbage
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>>160712791
if he's entitled to it GGG should give it then desu
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>>160713192
he's entitled to nothing but some bitch slaps
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>>160713232
we know you're a bitch but you don't gotta slap the boy
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>>160713417
i used to bully nerds like you in high school and take their lunch money, fag
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>>160713482
please refer to
>>160712097
and try to be a better poster from now on
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>>160713482
nice one
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>>160710678
All memeing aside, this anon is right. Chris reveals more information about upcoming shit on reddit then their own offical website. It's fucking stupid.
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>>160715008
watch ur step kiddo
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what are all of the ways to increase minion movespeed besides inquisitor warcrys, haste, vaal haste
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>>160716143
guardian*** not inquisitor
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>>160716143
uniques
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Kripp will make poe great again!

heres his build for Breach league

20k armor
20k evasion
11k effective health
max block
1 mil single target dps
decent aoe, but not great
permanent fortify
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>>160716273
which ones?
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>>160716346
only max block with flasks
and he's a templar
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>>160716420
ones that give minion movespeed
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>>160716346
permanent fortify (support) ;)
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What is the best skill to turn into a trap/mine?

I'm planning on doing a trap focused build for the next league and i was wondering what skill would be the most useful as a trap or mine.
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>>160716346
>only 11k ehp
>"""max""" block but only with Rumi's up
hahahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9cj3odYsmU

6159 life
14% physical dmg reduction
75% elemental dmg reduction
52% chance to evade
78/78% chance to block
40/30% chance to dodge

Total ehp vs attacks: 6159/(1-0.52)/(1-0.78)/(1-0.40)/(1-0.14) = 113k
Total ehp vs elemental spells: 6159/(1-0.78)/(1-0.30)/(1-0.75) = 160k

Take notes, kripp fanboys
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>>160717443
block and evasion aren't EHP you fucking retard and neither is phys reduction
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>>160717425
kb
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>>160717513
It's a retarded meme that gets repeated in the general a bunch of times already.
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>>160717513
hello summer
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>>160717652
but it's winter
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>>160715008
>A PR figurehead engages directly with a large subset of the playerbase on their plateform
outrageous
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>>160700182
Izaro always does a few extra attacks after he stops taking damage, you would know this if you either played more or did more damage.
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>>160717778
exactly, you should be out of this board by now
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>>160708527
>dom blow
The ONLY way to sustain it's mana req is with Soultaker.
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>>160709030
Dx11 client still runs like shit. Mass frame drops, hitching, and same lag in town when random hues join the instance.
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>>160718378
Works fine on my $200 Walmart laptop
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>>160718447
breast girl
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Give me the current poorfag build so I can start accumulating wealth. Thanks.
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>>160720569
>start accumulating wealth
>12 days before new league
?????
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>>160720989
I'm new. I don't care about leagues. I'm just going to start farming in standard or something to get used to the game.
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>>160717778
It's not winter in New Zealand.
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>>160722098
It's 19 in Auckland, m8, that's pretty cold.
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it's not winter anywhere yet
its spring or it's fall
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>>160722336
>seasons perfectly follow the months
kys
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>>160722227
Yeah, it's 8 for me. It's not winter in New Zealand.

>>160722336
I'm not okay with this definition that summer/winter "starts on" the solstice. Those are the longest and shortest days, respectively; they're the midpoints of summer and winter. It's northern hemisphere winter, southern hemisphere summer, fuck anyone who says otherwise.
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>>160722502
>Yeah, it's 8 for me
fuck do you live?
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>>160722552
The Land of Enchantment, at 2200m elevation. Admittedly, since I'm in the western hemisphere, it's nighttime.
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>>160721819
Don't.

Standard is a wasteland where everything is massively expensive and everyone except you has mirrored gear. It's where builds go to die. Leagues are almost always more effective to start with because the gear you need is cheaper, they're more active, it's easier to gain currency, and you might have half a chance of keeping up with the top-end people.
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>>160722502
>I'm not okay with this definition that summer/winter "starts on" the solstice
but that's literally how the seasons have been defined you fucking moron
>hurr my new way of doing it is better because i said so!
enjoy being retarded i guess

>>160722442
retard
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>>160722704
Yeah, so a completely different country
Winter isn't the same in every country you aspie fuck

Winter in Aus is low 20s

>>160722792
Quite the counterargument.
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>>160722905
my counter argument is that you're literally wrong, you've made up some headspace rule for how and when seasons start, completely ignoring the basis upon which seasons exist (the earth's tilt and variable distance from the sun)

you're discarding what people have recognized and agreed on for thousands of years because youre a moron
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>>160722757
What's the point of even keeping Standard at this point?
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>>160723046
ok then, tell me exactly when winter starts in Melbourne, Australia and how you come to know this date.
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>>160723095
some people play it to squeeze out every single point of dps they possibly can. You're not getting perfect mirrored rares in every slot in a temp league.
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>>160723095
RMT
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>>160723176
>seasonality is based on arbitrary lines people drew in the sand
are you actually this dumb? It's literally a physics thing. The night is longest on one particular day, that marks the start of winter.

The winter solstice for melborne was Jun 21 8:34 am AEST in 2016, and it's Jun 21 2:24 pm AEST in 2017
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>>160723391
I literally fucking said seasons weren't black and white you illiterate fucking retard.
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>>160723391
>The night is longest on one particular day, that marks the start of winter
Marks the middle of winter, not the start.
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>>160723176
winter in Melbourne starts exactly one eighth of a year before the winter solstice

so the 8th of may
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>>160723641
>>160723531
?
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>>160723531
>i'm redefining a word to meet my standards instead of going with the scientific definition
i think tumblr might be more welcoming
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>>160723095
There are people with millions of dollars worth of currency who would use their RMTbucks to hire assassins to blow up GGG if Standard was removed.
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>>160723095
>>160721819
>>160722757

>everything is more expensive
obviously currency inflation is an issue in standard, but the fact that items are 100x more plentiful than in challenge leagues heavily negates this.

i honestly haven't played a challenge league since warbands, they just don't really interest me, i've dabbled in hardcore which was fun, but the emphasis on life nodes limits the variety of viable builds.

so yea. i just play softcore standard. is the economy different than a challenge league? absolutely.

one thing i can tell you is that the "standard mode is a ghost town" meme is just that, a meme. /poeg/ thinks everyone plays challengue leagues because they are very popular here, and so the echo chamber effect is in full swing.

all of my steam friends make "challenge league alts" that they play when they are bored, mostly they just play standard and if they are starting a new character around the time of a challenge league, they will participate in it as an added bonus.
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>>160723095
I go there to dick around with builds whenever the passive tree changes or new skills come out, but I wouldn't actually try to progress in it.
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>>160724403
Everything you post is wrong and you are garbage, please neck yourself
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>>160724542
>user posts his experience playing path of exile with his friends
>REE U R WRONG AND U SHOULD FEEL BAD BAD BAD!!!

Threadly reminder that /poeg/ is among the most autistic of generals.
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>>160724753
It's okay anon, they're just jealous of us having friends
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>>160724982
Jelly. Two of my friends tried playing, put all attack skills in every socket and called it quits at lvl 40.
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>>160650726
I know this feel when no new NTR is uploaded
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>>160725181
>What is "making friends" for $500 Alex?

the average PoE player, IME, is honestly desperate for companionship and someone on their friends list, if you weren't socially retarded or bad at the game you would have a full friends list in 24 hrs
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>>160725336
contrast this with DoTA 2 where the only people who want to play with you are bottom feeding retarded foreigners who want to get carried

just to repeat: it is really easy to make friends in poe, stupidly easy
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>>160725336
I don't like playing/befriending people online. Used to before, but now I don't even bother because we'll lose contact/interest. I only play with IRL friends.
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So does the game not shit itself when you try to play with other people?
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>>160726302
I usually just play with another friend, even when I did CoC Discharge my friend was still fine.

The majority of our issues is actually with server stability.
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>>160724403
>, but the fact that items are 100x more plentiful than in challenge leagues heavily negates this.

plentiful for people with established amounts of currency over time, not plentiful for new players so they can't afford jack shit unless they RMT - but they can keep up with an economy in a temp league because everyone starts the same.
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>>160725497
Why was gw2 such a letdown?
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>>160727342
devs didn't play GW1 and made it into a generic themepark MMO with raids and shit and the biggest of course - it's not GW1

>GW1
>max level 20 - no grinding, easy as fuck
>double class system allowed huge customization along
>you can create your own parties with this shit for cool combos as well and gear them
>instanced maps where it's only your party in a bleak world

>GW2
>max level 80 generic MMO shit with grinding
>weapon system was cool at first but locked you into skills and didn't offer an actual choice
>open world shit with 'dynamic' quests which at one point had huge chains of bots just running them for the best loot
>incredibly obvious P2W with gems
>poorly designed dungeons which people cheesed because they weren't that interesting, all the bugs and jumping shit
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>>160726302
youre always playing with other people. i dont know how shit your graphics card is tho.
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>>160727808
Kind of sad that this amazingly detailed world they created just got wasted.
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>>160654980
Gonna do slayer eq then transition into cyclone slayer, waiting for patch notes to iron out specifics. Hopefully they dont remove anarchy from map device so I can chance some daressos salutes.
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>>160729928
what build would she play?
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How do I get good? Im stuck at lvl64, cant beat merciless dominus. Should I post my shit?
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>>160732373
post your shit and prepare to get roasted
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>>160732373
Post your profile.

It's the quickest way to get laugh and memed at, but also easiest way to get advice since "git gud" depends on tree and gear. Mostly to be ridiculed at though.
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>>160732373
just like, do a bunch of damage to him, die, res to checkpoint.. run back in damage, die, run back in, damage, die...etc.... till you kill him.
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>try out mcflurry because why not
>it's a ranged attack with a melee sticker slapped on

o-ok
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>>160732579
was supposed to be a spell like bladefall/blade vortex but they decided to make it an attack (spell) at the last minute

fucking hilarious
>>
>"Beginner/cheap/guide"
>shavs and skyforth

Why are the forums like this
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>>160732579
fresh insight.
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Anyone want to sell me an Atziri's Disfavour for like half price since the league is ending and the economy is crumbling?
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>>160732669
that's not true

>>160732705
why are sewers stinky
>>
>he doesn't have a shavs, skyforth, void battery and a headhunter

poor poetard
>>
I'm going to be playing some game not POE unless the patch changes are interested

WW@ not poetards?

If the patch changes are interesting I might reinstall
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>>160732794
Sure, my IGN is Aleski and I'll be around this week, just add me as a friend and message me in game.
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>>160732875
stop talking to me with the assumption i care what you play.
>>
What build can I play for around 4EX that levels fast and can do the endgame challenges? I'm starting t12 maps today so I still have a bit to go but I want to do the guardians and shaper. I also want to do uber lab but I never ever see trials in maps. I've seen portals maybe 8 times and it's been the same 2 so I just have a bunch of offerings and no progress.
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>>160733032
which league
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>>160733119
Essence Standard, my bad. Don't really care about any other factors like clearspeed. Just wanna get those sweet free microtransactions by the end of this week.
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>>160733032
PF BV
Use one shitty vinktar, phys to lightning gem, overflowing chalice.
Just use mediocre rare gear, a decent 5L regalia should still fit into that budget.
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>>160733238
well, don't let the door hit you on the way out shitcrow. let it fuck you in the ass, violently.
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>>160733307
Lol, I'll say what I've said since open beta. If they fix desync I'll play Hardcore.
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>>160733032

traditional summoners can get 12k ES(5l chest tho) with that little currency and easily rape endgame content.
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>>160727808
>tfw I could have won a lot more demis if I had not jumped to GW2
Half of those points are bullshit, btw.
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Is this worth fusing a few times to try and get 6link?

I've already used like 4
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>>160734623
it's shit
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>>160734212

>tfw challenge leagues dont award demis for first 100 of each ascendancy

why.
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>>160734678
ok
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Is the league ending soon or something? I_NO literally just gave me 500c for no reason other then be the first PM him It's nice having a whisper script
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cant be real. must wake up.
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>>160734898
based retard
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>>160735017

Lol you think I'm with BASED? Autistic fuck
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>>160734898
ending in like 12 days
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>Scorching Ray Cast on Channel Flame Surge inquisitor

aw

yiss
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>>160735705
>Flame Surge does extra damage to ignited enemies
>Scorching Ray doesn't ignite
explain yourself
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>>160735802
Flame Surge deals extra damage to BURNING enemies. It can even be searing fucking totem. If it's taking fire damage over time, it deals bonus damage. Scorching Ray falls under this category.
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>>160735891
I stand corrected
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>>160735891
>>160735705
>Doesn't have sub-30 second clearspeed

: ^ )

( ^ :

: ^ )

( ^ :

heh tough luck there kiddo better try some more blade vortex next time *shield charges behind u*
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>>160735705
I don't get the point of the new support desu

You're sacrificing one support (which can be 30% more damage or something) and another to cast another spell, how does that benefit you?

Like basically your ceiling is 4L SR + Trigger support + FS which doesn't benefit from supports like Rapid Decay and the trigger has like a half second cooldown?

So in something like
SR - CD - Elemental Focus - Rapid Decay
+
Trigger
+
FS ( - CD - Elemental Focus)

You have a 4L + half of a 3L?

At least Molten Shell would benefit from all 3 supports but still would be of questionable use against ranged monsters so again I don't see the point of the support
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ground slam or sunder?
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>>160736448
It's for blade flurry.
Blade Flurry - Faster Attacks - Added Chaos Damage - Void Manipulation - Cast while Channeling - Flame Dash/Lightning Warp.
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>>160735705
wait how would this even be remotely balanced

>>160736602
sunder
then move to EQ

>>160736683
how does this even work?
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>>160736602
Ground Slam = old and busted
Sunder = Ground Slam 2.0 ft AoE overlap
Blade Flurry = Sunder 2.0 ft easy crit and implicit %More atk speed multiplier instead of %Less
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>>160703268
I have no idea what AW or ED stand for.
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how about FU
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>>160736919
You go assassin and get free poison then get carried on a 4L because blade flurry is busted. Then you automatically dash towards the nearest enemy pack every 0.6 seconds so you don't even have to let go of the mouse button to dash.
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>>160710231
One Filter to Rule Them All is objectively the best.
It's also integrated into the base game now because GGG are thieving cunts, so you can just use <Default>!
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>>160737007
im specced heavily into 2h maces

>>160736919
ill give EQ another go, first time i tried it a bit and didnt like it
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>>160736683
Idk, still seems kinda useless to me, you still want your movement skill separately for mobility/backtracking anyway and randomly warping/dashing around would be annoying quickly for very marginal "clear speed" if not dangerous
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>>160737497
EQ isn't that great but the damage is solid for AoE but scaling it pretty much requires that reduced duration enchant.

>>160737009
Ancestrsal Warchief and Essence Drain.

I'll probably use AW if it's not super nerfed but it has a problem for clear speed because.
>spirit pop up time is fixed even with totem placement speed
>spirit disappears if you move a screen away
>it's attack range is affected by concentrated AOE - you can miss attacks if the range isn't large enough and thus lose DPS

all this is important for kiting and keeping bosses at bay with totems
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Is anyone willing to help me out with my Whispering Ice build? I can reliably handle up to T12, but my DPS isn't good enough for much higher and I'm not sure why.
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>>160737932
You need more dps.
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>>160737932
link your character
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>>160691182
Guys, it's Piety. The last boss will be Piety
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>>160738017
Is it possible to link to only the character, or should I just post the link to all of them?
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>>160738241
Nope, you just link your account's characters page and we assume whichever one is highlighted is the one being discussed.
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>>160738332
I now have the problem that the tab is private and I see no account settings anywhere that would allow me to change this.
Why the fuck is PoE's website so bad?
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>>160738551
Go to your account page, on the right sidebar in overview there should be privacy settings towards the bottom of the list. Click that, then uncheck hide characters then save.
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>>160650726
You make life worth living :')
thanks bro
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>>160738828
Thank you for explaining it to this idiot. https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Nuraihyon/characters
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>>160738949
maybe you should drop the cold to fire memes because im not seeing much synergy there

also pls explain why you have controlled destruction + ele overload
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>>160739281
>also pls explain why you have controlled destruction + ele overload
it's actually fine to run both, CD won't drop a skill's crit chance below base
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>>160739281
The cold to fire memes are there because you can easily buff both of them with jewels/passives in order to boost damage a lot more.
CD just makes me crit less often, but it still happens often enough that it is basically just a free 44% more damage modifier.
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What did she mean by this
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>>160738828
>Pathfinder
>Shitcrow
k y s f a m
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>Hey, that lightning golem MTX outfit looks pretty good, and lightning skills are my favorite! Maybe I shou-

>$50

What

the FUCK
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>>160734623
it's almost never worth trying to 6 link something for yourself. sure you might get lucky, but you might also just burn all your fuses. do you like gambling exile?
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>>160738949
Mokou's is worthless, replace it. You'd be much better off with a crystal belt with int from spite essences. Your helmet really should be Black Sun Crest, ideally a 14 or 15% one. Your chest is trash, you want much more int and ideally 700+ ES on it. There's no reason to mainhand item rarity, especially since you have such bad other gear.

Get either a perandus signet or a rare ring with +ES or +int, ideally both. Get a Black Sun Crest, socket discipline and blasphemy-warlords in it. Add an enlighten if you have one at level 2 then stick arctic armor somewhere else. Socket orb of storms somewhere so you can proc ele overload better and mastermind of discord once you do uberlab. Take ice golem over lightning golem, the 40% damage is better than cast speed.

Change that shit then come back.
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>Starting out
>Trying out necrosummoner
>Feel like I've hit all my main points on the skill tree (Except for necromantic aegis because that's a ways off)
>Not even level 30 yet

Am I building this right? I just started Act 3. It's my first character, so I'm a bit overleveled compared to the area recommendations, but I'm not sure where to put my skill points next other than filling out a few aight nodes like boosting energy shield or reducing cast times. Have I hit the main crux of the build already outside of ascending?
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>>160739841
link your build you stupid FUCK
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>>160739621
>14-15% crest
>700+ es chest

I don't think it's a good idea to suggest the guy blows an exalted just to get the absolute most out of his build
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>>160740101
Really hope I'm not fucking this link up

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMAAQFvBAcQlx8CIvQ2xUQETLNNuVSuXGtr22wLbRl9GH3ShEiFYIt6qsS_l8NtyT3MvN-K37Di9-yK8h731w==
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>>160739591
i fucking LOVE gambling

results of 1(ONE) chromatic

but fuses are too rare ill chill

What is best way to get them if not on your own? lucky drop? check shops?
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Got a leaked patch note from Chris by whispering him in game:

-Glacial Hammer damage buffed by 3.78% at level 20
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>>160740227
A near perfect BSC might be a little ambitious, but there's a 12% up for 1 fusing right now. You can get much better than a yellow ES helmet.

Same goes for the chest. Spend maybe 20c on woes and throw them at a 5L vaal regalia and you're bound to get something better than that.
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>>160739621
>Mokou's is worthless, replace it.
I am aware of this, I just don't have anything better. I'll look for one, but anything that's good is also usually several exalted.
>You'd be much better off with a crystal belt with int from spite essences. Your helmet really should be Black Sun Crest, ideally a 14 or 15% one.
Both of these are far above my budget. Just a 14% Black Sun Crest is a around an exalt at the cheapest, and a +int Crystal Belt is only marginally cheaper.
>There's no reason to mainhand item rarity
I always switch to Concentrated for any difficult maps, it's just that I steamroll basically all content that I'm not completely incapable of defeating, so having on Rarity doesn't really matter.

As I'm sure you can guess by now, I don't have any of the gems that sell for dozens of chaos.
I somehow manage to be both dirt poor and almost entirely self-found. You'd think I would accumulate money, but it never happens. No valuable currency ever drops and neither does any item worth anything significant.
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>>160740430
Post Glacial Hammer builds or i'll delete all your premium stash tabs

Regards, Chris
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>>160740383
your build is gay lol
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>>160740524
You don't need a perfect Black sun crest, but even a 10% one is a huge bonus to your damage. If you never looked up the mechanics of ice storm, you get 1-3 base damage per 10 int, as well as 0.15 base duration, plus the scaling from WI itself. Intelligence is everything. If you don't have every point of int you can get, you're not doing damage.
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>>160740383
kill yourself
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Wtf do I do with remnants of corruption
I keep holding on to them
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>>160740761
>>160740595
Before I kill myself, what have I been doing wrong? This seemed like a fairly straightforward build, and my zombies feel beefy as fuck, it's been ages since I've seen one drop outside of the occasional corrupted zones
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>>160740424
either you're retarded or your lack of game knowledge makes you seem retarded.
look up on the wiki how socket colours work and fusings/links while you're at it
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>>160740524
There's approximately one gazillion rings for 5c or less that are way better than mokou's. Start with http://poe.trade/search/aikimerakoriyo and add elemental resists to the search criteria as needed.
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>>160740706
The 11% one I have now boosts my average damage by ~400, but I have no idea how the fuck I'm going to afford the chromatics to get three blue sockets. I really doubt the exchange rate for them is high enough to afford buying them when you have maybe 20c worth of sellable items to your name.
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>>160741014
If you don't have enlighten, you don't need to worry about the third blue socket, you just need 1R2B. Vorici craft 1B and it costs a mindnumbing 17 chromes on average to get that if you 4 socket it.
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>>160740931
well i checked the wiki and have learned nothing

stop being so egotistical and tell me what you are talking about, i feel that my question was legitimate
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>>160740424
save and buy one. most of the time people sell white sub-par bases for an ex or two.
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>>160741364
i havent done like any trading at all. My highest character is level 57
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>>160741184
but I do have enlighten
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>>160741306
the odds of getting a particular color on a given socket are based on the item's stat requirements. an item that requires 155 str and no int or dex has a very, very heavy weighting towards being red. On average, you roll 6R on that one in 2.6 chromes.
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>>160741410
oh cool i didnt know that was a feature.

thanks
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>>160741403
3B1R is 203 chromes on average, vorici 1B. If your enlighten isn't level 2 yet, it's not a huge rush. You need enlighten to be level 3 counting the +1 from BSC to have enough mana to use arctic armor and still be able to actually cast your ice storm. Don't worry about it too much. Get your 2B1R and if you get lucky, great, if not, no rush.
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>>160740968
>>160740706
I got a +56ES, +51 int ring for 3 chaos and picked up the 12% BSC. I don't have an Enlighten gem and am not likely to get one, so this is about it for me.
I would like a better chest piece, but they are crazy expensive even with sub-par modifiers, and woes are crazy expensive as well.
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>>160741306
>>160741535
kys
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>>160741591
i looked up fusing, not sockets
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>>160735705
this actually seems obscene but why wouldnt le 4 totem meme man be better for this? Scorching Ray can have 4 separate debuffs affecting it at once, the only limit being the -24% fire res the beams actually do. The damage potential is fucking crazy.
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>>160741946
>doesn't check the wiki for what he wants to learn
>learns nothing

simply cannot make this shit up
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Essences semi-confirmed to stay in the game

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1770220/page/1

>Are there balance changes coming with 2.5.0? Can you give us some clues as to what will be addressed?
We can't reveal the details of many of these changes just yet but we're making small tweaks to a few systems, like melee weapon range and Essences. We'll be announcing them over the next two weeks leading up to the release of Content Update 2.5.0.
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>>160744182
>melee weapon range
melee confirmed fixed forever literally perfect
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>Pick up Scion's Hierophant notable
>+600 ES
How can life even compete?
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>league in 11 days
>no build
help
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>>160744182
Didn't you listen to the podcast? He talked at length about how Essences are staying in the game, just they'll be very rare and typically only higher-tier essences will appear.
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>>160745090
>not theorycrafting your build 6 hours before launch
idiot, we don't even have patch notes yet
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What build should I follow if I want to use blade flurry?
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will tornado shots/lightning arrow be fine you guys think ?
I'm coming back from an extended break and that's all I know
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>>160743904
hi anime
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>>160745729
sure
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>>160743904
Smugfu worst girl.
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how huge of an upgrade is a Taste of Hate?
From what I've gathered, it's supposed to be massive.
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>>160745106
I didn't. Nice to know though.
Also, only higher-tier essences appearing will mean that Hysteria, Delirium etc. will likely be as common as they are now.
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>>160745090
>>160745231
> new league in 10 days
> devs still didn't announce their balance changes other than some vague ''we're making quality of life changes to melee''.

>>160745558
I don't think blade furry is going to be good the devs mentioned nerfing it or adjusting it.
>>160740575
Glacial hammer -> melee splash -> melee physical damage -> added fire -> Weapon elemental damage -> fortify / inc AoE?
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>>160746184
>> devs still didn't announce their balance changes other than some vague ''we're making quality of life changes to melee''.
uhhhh they always do this so they can tweak things at the last minute

new much?
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>>160746184
>devs still didn't announce their balance changes other than some vague ''we're making quality of life changes to melee''.
Listen to the fucking podcast, it's only an hour.
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>>160744351

+600 ES is your participation trophy for mistakenly thinking you should ever pick Scion.
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>>160745872
sweet
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>>160746103
I hope it also means less whispering/more screaming when running maps.
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>the podcast

it's really nice that they got it going on with proper quests and so on, but i just hate listening to it because they don't have their own "ziggyd" aka someone who articulates swiftly and clearly and has that sort of entertainers charisma

now we have lifting who barely seems interested and is painful to listen to, PT who makes terrible "jokes" and then laughs at them and tries to be that edgy "real talk" guy when he remembers and then there's that on chink.jpg who sometimes says something and you're like "wait who's talking..? ah right, there's a third guy"
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>>160746226
Scion is far from bad for ES/CI builds, her Occultist notable gives 20% ES and 1% ES regen which is very good for ZO CI builds. She also gets 40+20 intelligence which is 8+4% ES, matching Occultist's 32% ES total bonus for a standard pathing and +3 passive points which can be spent on more ES nodes too.

I'm sitting at 5% regen from tree, 1% from Occultist and 1.6% from a marble amulet, 7.6% ES regen is pretty good when I get 15k ES total with some upgrades, that's a permanent 1k+ flat ES regen.

I'd put her slightly behind Occultist because Wicked Ward is really really good, but not that far behind.
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>>160746594
It's the best an autistic community like ours can produce.
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>>160746594
hegemony is the most intelligent of them 3, and the most suited for a podcast, shame he's overshadowed by real talk tough guy projectpt and braindead lifting BRO
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How do i make this game fun? It feels so fucking slow compared to D3 endgame.
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>>160746939
go faster
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i've decided that shitcrows don't play this game correctly
>>
as long as you have fun, you're playing the game correctly because games are meant to provide fun, not punishment
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>>160746594
absolutely can't stand LNB
when I started PoE I followed one of his build guides, it was marked for the current version back then, and was absolutely terrible
fuck that guy
>>
fun is a buzzword for when you want to praise a game but it doesn't have anything actually praiseworthy
>>
want to know what's fun? winning

and shitcrows can't win because they're still playing the tutorial
>>
do map prices stay the same every league?
just sorted through all the yellow maps I gathered, noticed that t10s are generally 2 chisels on poe.trade, everything below 1 chisel right now
>>
>no passive tree changes
>no mention of life and es balancing
>3 new skills where only 1 matters
>"melee" skills buff that make them even more ranged
Why are people excited for 2.5 again?
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>>160748137
>tfw only difference between softcore and hardcore is the size of the playerbase
FeelsGoodMan
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>>160748397
Boss fights look okay.
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>>160748217
What do you mean by the same? Maps drops drastically in price for the duration of the league.

Fastest way to make currency is pushing the ladder for the first week and selling left over maps. People pay 2-3 chaos for yellow maps on the third-fifth day, so if you're chaining maps you can easily make 50 chaos an hour just from map drops, assuming your build isn't shit.
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>>160748420
>better players
>better economy
>sense of comradery
>mutual respect
>no scammers
>no noobs
>only nicebuilds™
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>>160748654
Yeah, isn't softcore great
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>>160748654
True. That's why I could never play soft core.
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>>160748137
>winning in an autistic kiwi trade simulator
try winning at life, LOSER
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>>160748619
obviously its dependent on the point of the league, yea
i meant, do prices generally settle in at the same level, i.e. can i expect prices of yellow maps at the end of the next league to be at 1 chisel again?
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>>160748397
passive tree doesn't need an overhault, ascendancies will get reworked which will shift the meta for sure

new uniques seem to be balanced towards life and essences being semi-gone will make ES gearing much less attractive

blight is shit, scorching ray is passible, meme flurry is good, they're still subject to balance in the 2 weeks we have left

melee skills are getting a rework in targeting which goes beyond range

Why are you a shitter who can't stay informed again?
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>>160748654
>sense of comradery
>mutual respect
>in an anonymous online game
jesus christ, hardcucks really are autistic
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>>160749140
only catshitter is

but good job making it sound like he's a representative of hardcore players when he's really a shitcrow in disguise
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>>160749108
>ascendancies will get reworked
did they say that in the podcast?
if yes, anything more specific on that? in 2.5?
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>>160749204
everyone with half a brain knows Pathfinder is getting the nerf hammer

if you need an official confirmation for that, don't hold your breath, but veteran players are not as ignorant as you
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>>160749204
tone it down a notch mate
there's a world of difference between >ascendancies will get reworked
and
>pathfinder is getting the nerf hammer

the first one implies that something will be done to ascendancies across the board
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>>160749427
did we get a tree overhaul in 2.1?
in 2.2?
in 2.3?
in 2.4?

were the meta builds/classes the same in those leagues?
think a little before you post please
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>>160749198
how can i be a shitcrow when i don't even play shitcore
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>>160749462
i wasnt around pre-2.4, so I wouldn't know
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>>160749525
it's a state of mind
mathil is probably more hardcore than you'll ever be
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>>160749560
i'm pretty sure mathil hasn't won a hc demi
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what use can i make out of my coc wands now that coc is dead?
>>
poeurl.com/QQz

rate my kb mine build poeg
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>>160750570
1) you need 100% pierce, this is not optional
2) prism weave is garbage compared to blast cascade
3) you have no accuracy
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>>160748654
i have to agree here, almost half of the people who whisper you on sc are total retard cunts who can't string together a sentence and be reasoned with

on hc you can have a discussion about the item prices, people usually bother to respond better and aren't as hostile in general - it's almost pleasant to deal with people there
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>>160750971
'' I don't accept anything but chaos ''

Every time at every start of a league in hardcore when you want to buy some shitty 1-2c unique.
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>>160751225
So? Buy chaos with that currency first then
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>>160751225
this is why the chaos recipe is OP and the game is P2W
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>>160751395
retard
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>>160750746
poeurl.com/QQE

what about this then
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>>160751587
I helped you once, I will not do it twice
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>>160751696
fine noobling i'll just copy steel's build
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>>160751532
there's only four currencies that people constantly run out of:

>chisels
>alchs
>scours
>chaos

naturally using the vendor recipes for those currencies would be a great benefit, and you can't do those recipes without having extra tabs to store them
>>
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1361374
Is this a good build to start a league?
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>>160753559
cyclone is clunky and unfun
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>>160753559
> Beginners "End-Game-Viable"
> Tanky Cyclone Build
> [Atziri & HC/SC Viable]
this is what happens when you churn out unoriginal, copypasted guides as a shitcore streamer, you get noob friendly, shaper and atziri viable, super mega tanky, hc but also sc viable builds that can't get past t8s
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>>160753920
>>160754454
And so, the search continues
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>>160753559
no
good builds to start a league are those you can comfortably play self-found
Which means ED (scion or witch) os summoner (necromancer)
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>>160754578
if a guide has any of the following
>"check out my twitch stream if you have further questions XD"
>lists irrelevant, legacy or outdated standard gear
>claims to be "tanky" when it's just genericly barely passable
>is written in the form of a school assignment instead of going to the important part
>mentions being "sc/hc" viable
>has basically zero evidence of how it performs end game
skip it
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>>160752670
ah yeah, the famous alch and scour recipes that savvy players use to get rich in no time

and nobody bothers storing hammers anymore when chisels are 4:1c

kys retard
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>>160754593
>>160754706
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1716534
This seems good aside of
>"check out my twitch stream if you have further questions XD"
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>>160754914
his build explanation is basically a series of youtube videos

how much of a jewish sellout can one be?
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>>160754993
I don't understand why there needs to be some fucklong explanation, anyway.
Just list the gem setup and the passive tree, plus what kind of equipment you need.
>>
if you're interested in the gem setup, check out my youtube video
if you wanna know the different class choices, check out my other video
if you wanna know how poison works, check out my special video

don't forget to rate and subscribe!!
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>>>/v/358307215
>/v/ is making fun of us AGAIN
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>>160754864
>not wanting 100s of FREE chisels
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>>160755949
is he still your guy?
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>>160756085
back
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>>160756085
Are you stuped?
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>>160756394
>transparent hair lets you see outlines of the eyes and eyelashes
I don't know, are you?
>>
>unable to kill Shaper because can't survive his second phase
>new patch
>game now crashes randomly, yay!
>pay for Shaper service because fuck it, only one week left to get the achievement
>game crashes while taking a portal to shaper's realm
>no achievement, shaper set wasted ))))))))))

GG GGG
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>>160755995
I don't see how they're making fun of us. It's the same shitposting we do have here.
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I really like Diablo games.

Is Path of Exile enjoyable in single player?
I just want to play it like any other Diablo game, I don't want to deal with other people.

I also heard that only very specific builds are good, is there a list somewhere where I can look at viable builds?

How autistic do I have to get with my character? Do I need to drop every point into the exact right spot like a guide tells me?
Do I have to spend hours sitting in a lobby and shouting at people to trade me specific items?
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reminder of the best build
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>>160756545
>Hitler's sword

wew lad
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>>160756448
you're a fool for trying since 2.4.3 and not waiting for them to fix it
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>>160756440
Just go back to /reddit/ already you freak.
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>>160756545
>someone bothered to make a pic for a build that doesnt even function the way he thinks
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>>160756608

why would they fix it before the end of the league? there are just 6 days left.
2.4.3 was supposed to be the "fix", the next one will probably come with the end of the league, not sooner.
So it's now or never.
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>>160756448
softcore or hardcore?
i can kill shaper for you in ehc if you have another set to burn
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>>160755995
What animu is this? Looks cool
>>
>>160757092
shirobako
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>>160757092
Sword Art Online
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>3k life
>3.3k mana
>almost all of it reserved
>4l ball lightning
>0l conductivy

shitcrows confuse the hell out of me
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>>160756532

- Party play sux, almost everyone plays solo

- Trading 100% mandatory unless you wanna suffer as a "selffound" cuck. Trade website (trade.poe) exists and the only ones still using ingame trade channels are scammers hunting for clueless people.

- You can respec everything except your starting class. Dont try to make your own build until you know the mechanics. Steal a build from the forums, preferrably one where the guy reached a high level (96-100) and didnt just make a shit thread with [HC / UBER / MAJIN BUU ] VIABLE and only played his shitty character to level 85.
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>>160757216
>You can respec everything except your starting class.
Technically, a Scion can become anything so she's the safest class to pick if you're unsure of what you might respec to down the road
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>>160756915
to test the fix but yeah you could be right if it ends in 6. that like a fucking week of no league
lmao they should have put a week race up or something
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>>160757195
>>>/v/358320758

forgot to link
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>>160757285
picking scion for easier respecs is like hacking off your own arm so that you can choose from a wide range of prosthetics
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>>160756532
>Is Path of Exile enjoyable in single player?

fuck no
P2W, asinine boss fight mechanics, broken skills,

>Do I need to drop every point into the exact right spot like a guide tells me?

If you want to reach end-game content there are only two ways to do it:
a) follow the current meta
b) spend a few gorillions of exalted orbs

The game doesn't allow you to have fun, the ((((((((devs))))))) explicitly said on multiple occasions that they want players to suffer "to make them experience the dangerous life of exile". In other words PoE isn't about enjoyment or fun.
Basically you have to be a rich streamer or a self-hating masochist to """""""enjoy"""""" this so-called """"""""game""""""".
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>>160756798
You keep cricizing anime artstyle like you've never seen it before. Is this your first year here you freak?
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>>160757410
>like you've never seen it before
yeah moeshit is a truly new cancer
my eyes have only been opened recently

just stop replying to me, newshit
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>>160757308
How are those numbers of any relevance without knowing character level? for all you know it might be a level 50 or something character still using random leveling gear

you fucking retard
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>>160757501
>recently
So you are new here. Lurk more then you freak.
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>>160757583
>divine flask
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>>160757620
you're too dumb to even converse with, on an ironical or unironical level

nys
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>>160757656
>orb girls
divine flasks level requirements were adjusted in 2.0 you casualshit

not that those numbers would be anything to raise an eyebrow over for a level 60 character

you're trying too hard to assume things off a screenshot that gives you no real information

kys yourself
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what is a shitcrow
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>>160757065
No, it's on sc.
Thank you anon, but i've burned 4 sets already, 3 while trying to kill him myself with different setups and one when i have tried to purchase the kill.

I think i'll just sell the only set that i have left, because even if someone will kill Shaper for me i wouldn't be able to get the achievement anyway because the client will just crash again during area transition again.

Fuck GGG, fuck their broken bosses, fuck their "performance improvements" and fuck everything.
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>>160757996
u
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>>160757996
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>>160755995
This is literally me when at work.
>>
Do you think if you kill yourself you find yourself in twilight strand?
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>>160757308
Old UI looks so slick. Far better than what we have currently.
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>>160757996
It's what the despairing, self-hating hardcore players call softcore players to briefly feel better about themselves after their cahr died to a DC, lag or framedrop.

The ironic part is that they apparently like this helpless feeling of loss, which is why normal people just call them 'hardcucks'.
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>>160758691
fuck off turdbird
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>>160758691
i just do it because it has a nice ring to it
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>>160758754
How's that logout macro working for you this fine day, hardcuck?
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>>160759119
for every time i need to log out, you've died over 100 times

run along now shitcrow. poeg is for real gamers, not posers like you'reself
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>>160759237
don't need to log out when you only enter tps of higher maps to get a boss kill achievement from another player :^)
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>>160759380
talk to my're demi because my face ain't listening
>>
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Can I play x64 in fullscreen by now, or does it still crash?
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>>160760697
People play PoE in fullscreen?
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>>160761817
If there was a 'borderless window' option I'd use that in a heartbeat.

But there isn't, so I'm stuck with shit-tons of wasted space on one screen now because GGG decided it'd be funny to make the 64bit client crash in fullscreen mode.
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>>160762073
>no borderless windowed mode
>in a fucking Diablo

INTO THE TRASH IT FUCKING GOES

I just arrived here on a quest to figure out if this game was shit or not, what a fast and definitive answer
>>
>>160762073
>>160762379
DX9 client still has borderless window. Just give them until 2.5.0 to make DX11 client not suck cocks so we can cut shadows, play borderless windowed, and enjoy runescape mode.
>>
How viable would it be to have the Spectral Wolves from the Scourge apply Curses?
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>>160763147
somewhere between not very and not at all.
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>>160755995
wait why does shirobako have suffering? this isn't what I signed up for
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>want to do a dominating blow comk SRS build
>dominating blow has been bugged since bloodlines
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>>160764092
>Actual melee skills
>Never not bugged
>Never not shit
Sorry, mate.
Just wait until we get the Melee Summoner revival with Dominating Quake.

Or a real Melee totem.
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>>160762763
>DX9 client
That one unfortunately crashes to a blackscreen upon exiting the game unless I use teh task manager to kill the process since last patch ;° )
>>
how hard is T15 Core compared to the other T15 maps?
Did all the other T15 corrupteds pretty smoothly, but I imagine the boss encounters on Core are pretty hard.
>>
>>160762763
I have Windowed Fullscreen on the DX11 client, but it correctly lists my GPU at the top, which doesn't happen for some other people.
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>>160765162
go to belly of the beast 2 merciless
clear map, kill malachai
now try to imagine the same but with more mob hp and damage
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>>160765162
what's your build?

with todays standards, core malachai isn't anything special anymore
>>
>>160765162
it's really easy to rip. Malachai is more or less equivalent to Rigwald, but you have a few other bosses who are respectable in their own right who can cost you portals.
>>
ded
>>
trying to think of innovate builds depresses me because literally nothing outside the meta is viable
>>
>>160768564
stop using words that you don't know the meaning of
>>
next league im gonna oro flicker! im gonna get it to maps! i wont die to alt tabbing boy oh boy you better beleive it!
>>
also btw you can roll iiq and iir on maps now wtf lmao? dont bully me btw
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>>160768907
retard
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>>160768926
i did oro's with kaoms heart as chieftain
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>>160731027
SRS scion
>>
0-4 masty then sleep
5-9 sleep
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>>160770693
looks like mc flurry didn't work out for you
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>>160770738
4u
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>>160770738
I got a little overconfident. I'll do better next league. Hope they adjust assassin a bit.
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nice game poetards
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what if when you died in hc you left all your items on the ground in that instance just a thought
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>>160654980
>want to make a build that doesnt revolve around abusing of any mechanic interactions, like "double dipping" and/or isnt baseline OP like blade *anything*
>it turns out shit
i just want to play plain pure cold based self cast vortex or freeze pulse or glacial cascade or ice spear or arctic breath or or or
am i asking too much, GGG?
>>
>>160745231
>6 hours before launch
are you making a watercolor painting of a skill tree for every build? 5 min top
>>
>>160654980

coc maxblock bladeflurry
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>>160747412
he is also known for scamming.
and yes, his builds are pure shit
>>
>copying builds
>copying shitcrow builds
>copying shitcrow streamer builds
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>>160772502
Lifting was one of your boys when he put up the majority of those builds.
>>
its all really simple, you should only play HC if you are a streamer looking for more views
99% of hardcucks only play HC because their favorite streamer does, that way they feel like they are playing "together", except when streamer rips he intentionally or not excites his audience, generating more views, donations and stuff, and when you rip you are just getting cucked, losing your time while gaining nothing in return. This is fact, and you cant prove me wrong. Ex-hardcuck 2013-2016
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>people unironically listen to the podcast
>shitcrows unironically post in our thread
>>
Anyone using an oppai mousepad, how does it feel when playing?
>>
>cast while channel
literal what
>>
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>people unironically buy and use p2w stash tabs
>people unironically give up status of 'elite' just so they can trade like p2w whores
>>
>>160773580
I would imagine it doesn't feel much different than this, and it's a retarded and annoying design. I had to use it sideways until I got a proper one.

It feels like having a little rock in your shoe.
>>
is mathil seriously 5'2"??
>>
>>160774471
more like 6'5" with a 5'2" dick
>>
What's a build that can quickly get off the ground with really fast clear speed so I can try to get shitloads of breach loot not very long into the league?
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>>160682274
iktf
>>
help me peeohgee. i want to schedule my vacation days next year to be around the time the big expansion comes out. any good guesses when that is?
>>
>>160774625
Ok but its super secret don't tell anyone
Contagion-less Essence Drain
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>>160774625
pizza totem inquisitor for sure
most fucking retarded build ive ever seen
>>
>>160774752
early july
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>>160774779
I've played pizza totem and its clear speed is not that fast. It's loud and exciting and really easy but having to drop the totems and wait for the channels slows down your potential by a lot.
>>
poeurl.com/QTQ

rate my scorching pee build poeg
>>
>>160774791
is there another small expansion in between breach and act 5? otherwise that seems awfully long away
>>
>>160774986
6 month p2p streamer beta
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>>160765162
It's not that bad. The easy guide to killing Malachai is pretty much
>Don't stay in front of him
>Don't stand in cancer
>Hit it until it dies

The only issue is GMP Core with any increased aoe, which is fucking impossible because it makes dodging his eyeball toss extremely difficult and the explosions overlap.
>>
>>160774907
You don't play pizzablast totems for clearspeed senpai. You play it to trivialise literally all the fucking content.
>>
>>160774907
only if you're shit
>>
>>160775256
totems are crap though
>>
>>160775239
>You don't play pizzablast totems for clearspeed senpai.
I literally asked for a high clearspeed build.
Are you illiterate?
>>160775256
There's no way to play to make flameblast not back-load its damage.
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>>160775256
good post

can we be friends?
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>>160774752
They're on the 3 month schedule now and we know that Act 5 will follow Breach, so March 3rd or 10th would be a good guess.

Jonathan seemed pretty confident that they were on schedule when he was on the podcast recently.
>>
>>160774907
>>160775239
what builds are clearing faster than flameblast totems?
>>
>>160775640
vaal spark
essence drain
most arrow builds
earthquake
BV
most elemental spells
pretty much everything but brotems.
>>
Rate this extremely insane build
http://poeurl.com/QT4
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>>160775374
I'm not even that guy
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>>160775640
Pretty much any crit bow build
EQ
Blade Flurry
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>>160775239
looks pretty trivial to me desu senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F524hAGXt4
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>>160776009
Why are you scaling both ele and phys

Why do you only have 103% increased life

Why are you skipping jewel sockets
>>
someone make the new thread

or don't

i don't care
>>
>>160776195
>I'm not even that guy
that guy's post is not private
you can read it
this is a public board and you are capable of following a thread to understand the context of the conversation

or you can act like an illiterate retard.
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>>160775558
ok thank you fampai
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>>160776646
>this is "trivializing" minotaur according to /poeg/
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>>160776646
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>>160775345
>>160775374
how can you be so clueless
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>>160776646
>>
>>160776646
that is fucking embarrassing
>>
holy fuck i'll make it then

lazy fucks
>>
>>160776646
>play hardcore
>logout when you fuck up
defeats the purpose desu
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>>160777797
>>160777797
>>160777797
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>>160774471
>>160774610
>americans
gross
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>>160780417
die freak
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