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With the new cards, I wonder if now YZ True King is now viable.

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21th Eternal reminder that Red-Eyes is the best Dragon Bro.

Dark Summoning Beast can summon a Sacred Beast from your hand or deck ignoring the summoning conditions by tributing itself
Second effect is covered up

Paradise Lost
Field Spell
Uria, Hamon and Raviel cannot be destroyed or targeted by your opponent's card effects
Hard OPT, if you control Uria, Hamon, Raviel or Armityle, you can draw 2 cards

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Any S/T with destruction effect that you can trigger when said S/T is in hand? Geartown?

Too bad Burrowing needs to be on field for its destruction effect.

>>160503483
Dark Summoning Beast would be pretty nice if it wasn't fucking level 5.

>>160503546
Mystic Tomato to the rescue.

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BUT WHAT DOES IT DOOOOOO

>>160503612
Here's its anime effect
>Once per turn, you can equip this card to a face-up monster your opponent controls, OR unequip it to Special Summon this card. The equipped monster loses ATK equal to this card's original ATK. If the equipped monster is destroyed by battle, Special Summon this card. If this card destroys an opponent's monster by battle, it also gains that monster's effect(s).

>>160503612
Here's its game effect
>>Once per turn, you can equip this card to a face-up monster your opponent controls, OR unequip it to Special Summon this card. The equipped monster gains this effect:
-Once per turn, Shuffle your Deck

>>160503483
>Hard OPT, if you control Uria, Hamon, Raviel or Armityle, you can draw 2 cards
Does it have the "whose original name is X" clause? Because we can just use Prisma.

>>160503612
When it attacks it gains 500 ATK
Hard OPT you can target 1 monster your opponent controls, it loses ATK equal to this card's ATK, then banish this until the next standby phase, then ???

>Zefra Support
AHAHAHAH
YES
they're still shit

>>160504353
Remember Zefranon? I wonder how much he spent on his deck when they were released.

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All this True King support makes me want to eradicate the dracos.

>>160504469
I don't know him but I've been playing or trying to play Zefra since they came out even if they're mediocre.

Do these new cards make Predaplants any better?

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>Brohunder
Those madmen! They really did it!

>>160505039
Oni Thunder/ Brohunder
Level 4 LIGHT Thunder-Type Effect Monster
ATK 900
DEF 400 (1)
When this card is Normal Summoned: You can add 1 Level 4 LIGHT Thunder-Type monster from your Deck to your hand, except “Brohunder”.

What are the best things this can search other than the rest of the Hunders?

>>160505197
Cloudians

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I might get blasted for this, but is Trap Exodia viable for matches nowadays? I need the cheapest possible locals deck and Chain Burn is too boring compared to Exodia.

>>160505197
Denko.
Thunder Sea Horse searching Hunder.
Lightning Rod Lord.
Rai-oh.

>>160505197
Denko "waifu" Sekka.
And Thunder King Thunder King.

>>160505256
Too bad Makyura is banned.

>>160504887
they can mass dump counters now, so sundew kingii can fuse easier, rafflasia and drago can get their effect off easier, as can flytrap and dioneae
the monsters are either basically pointless (the cobra) or nice to have but weren't desperately needed by the deck (cordycep)
and the transcendental fusion, while not a predaplant card, lets them summon starve venom easier in addition to rafflasia

tl;dr better but still meme pet deck tier
t. predaplant player

>>160505039
My life is now complete. I can die in peace now

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PRINT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

How good is the new PK Trap?

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>>160505039
Onii-san! I've missed you so!

>>160505039
FUCK
FINALLY
FUCK
SHIT

>>160505532
I'm surprised that Konami has refused to print a single one of Don Thousand's cards. Like, they're the only Numbers left at this point.

>>160505584
Pretty good.

>>160505039
This and Gozuki have proven that no Manga card is too obscure to get printed.
Do any of you have any wishes?

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>>160505718
Print my friieends~ priiint theeem~ ~ !

>>160505197
>searches Rai-Oh
Please no

Number 70: Deadly Sin
Rank 4 DARK Insect-Type Xyz Effect Monster
ATK 2400
DEF 1200
Xyz Materials: 2 Level 4 monsters
(1) Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card, then target 1 monster the opponent controls; banish it until the opponent’s next Standby Phase.

This sounds pretty good honestly.

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Kousai no Majutsushi / Iris Magician
Level 4 DARK Spellcaster-Type Pendulum Effect Monster
ATK 1500
DEF 1000
Pendulum Scale: 8
Pendulum Effect:
(1) Once per turn: You can target 1 DARK Spellcaster-Type monster you control; for the rest of this turn, double any battle damage it inflicts to your opponent if it battles a monster, then, destroy this card.
Monster Effect:
(This card is always treated as a “Pendulum Dragon” card.)
(1) If this card is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can add 1 “Pendulumgraph” card from your Deck to your hand.

>>160505892
>more r4nk shit
Fuck.

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Kokuga no Majutsushi / Black Fang Magician
Level 4 DARK Spellcaster-Type Pendulum Effect Monster
ATK 1700
DEF 800
Pendulum Scale: 8
Pendulum Effect:
(1) Once per turn: You can target 1 face-up monster your opponent controls; that monster’s ATK becomes half its current ATK until the end of this turn, then, destroy this card.
Monster Effect:
(This card is always treated as an “Xyz Dragon” card.)
(1) If this card is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can target 1 DARK Spellcaster-Type monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon it.

>>160504887
The level 3 lets you get out sunny d from deck which is nice. The spell is good except it could have beEn non target.

Brilliant meme plus them may work sibce everything is still really dependent on your normal

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Hakuyoku no Majutsushi / White Wing Magician
Level 4 WIND Spellcaster-Type Pendulum Tuner Effect Monster
ATK 1600
DEF 1400
Pendulum Scale: 1
Pendulum Effect:
(1) Once per turn, when a card effect that targets a DARK Spellcaster-Type monster(s) you control resolves, you can negate that effect, then, destroy this card.
Monster Effect:
(This card is always treated as a “Synchro Dragon” card.)
If this Pendulum Summoned card is used for a Synchro Summon, banish it.

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>>160505718
There's a shit ton of manga cards I'd like to see printed.

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Shidoku no Majutsushi / Violet Poison Magician
Level 4 DARK Spellcaster-Type Pendulum Effect Monster
ATK 1200
DEF 2100
Pendulum Scale: 1
Pendulum Effect:
(1) Once per turn, before damage calculation, when a DARK Spellcaster-Type monster you control battles: You can activate this effect; that monster gains 1200 ATK until the end of the Damage Step, then, destroy this card.
Monster Effect:
(This card is always treated as a “Fusion Dragon” card.)
(1) If this card is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can target 1 face-up card; destroy it.

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Chronograph Magician / Chronograph Sorcerer
Level 6 DARK Spellcaster-Type Pendulum Effect Monster
ATK 2000
DEF 1700
Pendulum Scale: 8
Pendulum Effect:
You can only use the Pendulum Effect of “Chronograph Sorcerer” once per turn.
(1) During your Main Phase: You can destroy this card, and if you do, place 1 “Timegazer Magician” from your hand or Deck in your Pendulum Zone.
Monster Effect:
(1) If a card you control is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can Special Summon this card from your hand, then, you can Special Summon 1 monster from your hand.
(2) You can banish this card you control, then banish 1 “Pendulum Dragon” monster, 1 “Xyz Dragon” monster, 1 “Synchro Dragon”, and 1 “Fusion Dragon” monster, from your hand, field, and/or Graveyard; Special Summon 1 “Haohryuu Zarc” from your Extra Deck. (This Special Summon is treated as a Fusion Summon.)

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SD31-JP001 Astrograph Magician / Astrograph Sorcerer
Level 7 DARK Spellcaster-Type Pendulum Effect Monster
ATK 2500
DEF 2000
Pendulum Scale: 1
Pendulum Effect:
You can only use the Pendulum Effect of “Astrograph Sorcerer” once per turn.
(1) During your Main Phase: You can destroy this card, and if you do, place 1 “Stargazer Magician” from your hand or Deck in your Pendulum Zone.
Monster Effect:
(1) If a card you control is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can Special Summon this card from your hand, then, you can add 1 monster from your Deck to your hand, whose name is the same as a monster that was destroyed this turn.
(2) You can banish this card you control, then banish 1 “Pendulum Dragon” monster, 1 “Xyz Dragon” monster, 1 “Synchro Dragon”, and 1 “Fusion Dragon” monster, from your hand, field, and/or Graveyard; Special Summon 1 “Haohryuu Zarc” from your Extra Deck. (This Special Summon is treated as a Fusion Summon.)

Predaplants finally achieved splashable engine status.

>summon Ophrys Scorpio, use effect
>summon Darling Cobra
>search Brilliant Fusion
>rank 3

>Cards from the highest voted Duels of the 20th Duel Selection will be made into actual cards. These cards will be based on cards or scenes that played a key and vital role in these Duels!
>GX: Judai VS Chronos, the Thank You Duel from Season 4
I can't remember a single good card left to be printed from this duel.

What, are they gonna retrain Skyscraper and Flame Wingman now?

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Seisou no Pendulumgraph / Pendulumgraph of Ages
Continuous Spell Card
You can only use the (2) effect of “Pendulumgraph of Ages” once per turn.
(1) Spellcaster-Type monsters you control cannot be targeted by your opponent’s Spell Effects.
(2) If a face-up “Magician” Pendulum Monster leaves your Monster Zone or Pendulum Zone: You can add 1 “Magician” Pendulum Monster from your Deck to your hand.

>>160506358
And people seriously doubted them even after EMs, SRs, and PKs all did well.

>>160506483
Would be nice if they could do well as an actual deck instead of getting cucked by existing meta decks.

>(2) While this card is in your Monster Zone, if you would destroy a monster(s) with the effect of a “True King” monster in your hand, you can destroy your opponent’s monster(s) instead.
I'm sorry what

>>160503612
This, I need the effect

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Give me a Dark Lord decklist!

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>>160505903
>>160505984
>>160506058
>>160506142
This is going to make playing Dark Magician really fun.

>>160506609
It means that you can pop two of your opponent's monsters to summon your true kings. Which is pretty damn great.

So wait, are sacred beasts going to be playable now?

>>160506609
Pop opponent's monster to summon your True King.
Don't forget to change their attribute first to match the True King you want to summon.
Also, no hard OPT on change attribute effect.

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Phantom Knights Mist Claws / The Phantom Knights of Mist Claws
Trap Normal
(1) Target 1 of your banished “The Phantom Knights” monsters; add it to your hand.
(2) When your opponent declares a direct attack, if this card is in your Graveyard: You can target 1 Level 4 or lower “The Phantom Knights” monster in your Graveyard; Special Sumon that monster, and if you do, Special Summon this card from your Graveyard as a Normal Monster with the same Level as that monster (Warrior-Type/DARK/ATK 0/DEF 0). (This card is not treated as a Trap Card). If this card was Special Summoned by this effect, banish it if it leaves the field.

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Is it funny when the most threatening looking cards with huge ATK have little to no DEF? I just get the mental image of Kuriboh somehow killing Zielgigas

>>160506403
So you pop Wisdom-Eye to get a new scale AND a search? Neat.

>>160506847
Maybe because they're so powerful they're overconfident and leave themselves open for sneak attacks? Kinda like Goku on Frieza's movie that he got fucked up to a random ass blaster.

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Moonlight Kaleido Chick / Lunalight Kaleido Chick
Level 4 DARK Beast-Warrior-Type Effect Monster
ATK 1400
DEF 800
You can only use the (2) effect of “Lunalight Kaleido Chick” once per turn.
(1) Once per turn: You can send 1 “Lunalight” monster from your Main Deck or Extra Deck to the Graveyard; for the rest of this turn, if you use this card as a Fusion Material, you can treat this card’s name as the same as the name of that sent monster’s.
(2) If this card is sent to the Graveyard by a card effect: You can target 1 “Polymerization” in your Graveyard; add it to your hand.
(3) If this card is banished: You can activate this effect; until the end of this turn, your opponent cannot activate card effects during the Battle Phase.

>Fallen Paradise protects Hamon and lets you plus off it
Hamon turbo Crystal Beasts shall be a thing again.

Predator Plants are still awful as an actual archetype, right?

>>160506923
yeeeeee

>>160506923
As awful as Shiranui.

>>160506816
Call me edgy but man this artwork is cool as fuck.

>>160506816
>Sharp claws
>0 ATK

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>>160506919
This card is ridiculously good for Moonlights.

>>160506816
Finally, some searchable recovery. Shame it isn't a Quickplay.

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>>160506387
DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS I FORGOT ABOUT THIS
It's gonna be nerfed to shit like Power Wall, now I'm sad.

>>160506847
I once killed Zielgigas with Turbo Synchron.

>>160507148
>Negate any effects that would send cards from the deck to the graveyard.

Yes PLEASE.

So, new Dracos: How do they rank compared to the other 3 main archetypes (Metals/Crystrons/Zodiacs)?

>>160506923
I don't think they'll be "awful" anymore. They'll likely shit on most pet decks.

>>160506920
Don't forget that you can also abuse the OPT Pot of Greed with Prisma.

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>>160506847
Dont talk shit about Ziel

>>160507148
A likely story.

>>160507271
Wow holy shit you can.
Strange that Komoney would overlook adding an "original names" clause on that.

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>>160507148
>A spell card getting printed as a V-Jump promo
Good one anon

>>160507250
Metalfoes are patrician support tier. But as stand-alone decks
Zodiacs > True Dracos > Metalfoes > Crystrons

>>160507339
They probably figure that having to put the Sacred Beasts in your deck is cost enough.

>>160507367
There's no monsters from that duel left unprinted.
That leaves only 3 cards from that duel, all S/Ts, Take Over Five is the best one, Unfinished Time Box is ass and Desperate Battle is worse.

So now a retrained Flame Wingman seems likely.
1 HERO monster + 1 WIND or FIRE monster, ATK becomes equal to opponent's monster +100(Skyscraper) when battling and standard Flame Wingman burn? Oh, right, and a nomi clause because HERO fusions gotta have that.

>the -hunder archetype gives extra summons for thunder monsters
>brohunder can search denko, rai-oh, lightning rod lord
>all level 4 for degeneracy
>tourmaline is thunder so you can summon it to overlay if you draw it
>thunder monsters are light so you can use the brilliant engine

KONAMI WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?

>>160507250
Shouldn't you compare the new Wind theme we're going to get with those decks instead?

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Odd question but does anyone have a fun decklist featuring Manjoume cards from the north academy episode? Or could someone make one?
Lets make small fry monsters awesome.

>>160507656
Yeah you could make one.

>>160507649
There is no Wind theme.
This is the main archetype of the pack.
To go with your FIRE Psychic Fusions, WATER Machine Synchros and EARTH Beast Warrior Xyz, you're getting these weird multi-attribute tribute summoning-reliant Wyrms that also have an Xyz boss.

>>160507253
How would you solve the normal summon dependency problem?

>>160507745
What
That's stupid

>>160507767
Graft, Planter, Nutrient, Instant Fusion, DDR?

>>160507721

I was thinking of doing that anyway, was just curious if anyone else tried doing this, but I guess most people make decks based on his armed dragon, ojama or vwxyz ones.

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Gagagigo archetype that becomes meta, when?

>>160508248
After the power vacuum caused by the T0 Zera support being banned.

>>160508248
RIGHT NOW
IN THE RING OF HONOR

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>>160508347
I'm ready

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>>160503306
>new thread is TGU
Nice. Thanks, anon.

>>160506847
Ziel has 0 def because it's made of Hercules and some crab
Hercules has 0 def because it has a weak point in its chest

>>160508248
>>160508369

These look pretty awesome, the other day I saw a thread on yugioh cardmaker that basicly took monsters and made new versions of them that fit into other archetypes, sort of like the monster takes on a new role or occupation. would be a neat idea to see happen someday.

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>>160506919
I LOVE IT. It's so good.
What set's this from, when's it coming out in TCG

>>160506237
Is this a chick?

>>160507557
>There's no monsters from that duel left unprinted.
>That leaves only 3 cards from that duel, all S/Ts, Take Over Five is the best one, Unfinished Time Box is ass and Desperate Battle is worse.
But like I said, Shueisha doesn't do promos that aren't monsters.The only exceptions are Embodiment of Aphosis, Exchange of the Spitit and Stronghold the Moving Fortress, and those were over 10 years ago.

>>160508883
>inb4 chronomancy magician is a reverse trap

>>160508883
No.

>>160506919
>You can send 1 “Lunalight” monster from your Main Deck or Extra Deck
>Main Deck
So, are they just thinking ahead, or are we getting new fusions. Because that part is currently useless. This just gets better and better

>>160509035
>>160509087
Those are some weird legs.

>>160506237
>>160506320
Damn, this new Magician stuff is great.

>>160507745
How cucked is ritual right now?
The original Dracos had Fusion from Dinomists as WATER, Xyz from Majespecters as WIND, Synchro from Igknights as FIRE and Ritual from Amorphages as EARTH.
Now we have Fire Fusion Psychic Pendulums, Water Machine Synchros, Earth Beast Warrior Xyzs and Tribute Wyrms which do Xyz.
This summoning method is almost as cucked as synchro, only good ritual archetype was this was Nekroz and that's unplayable now.

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I guess they didn't want to do WIND Rituals twice?

>>160509560
>Ritual from Amorphages as EARTH
Amorphage is Pendulum tributes.
They don't have any Ritual Spell.

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Diabound Kernel
Level 5 DARK Fiend-Type Effect Monster
ATK {1800}
DEF {1200}
The (2)nd effect of “Diabound Kernel” can only be used once per turn.
(1) When this card declares an attack: It gains 500 ATK.
(2) Target 1 face-up monster your opponent controls; until the end of the turn, that monster loses ATK equal to this card’s ATK. Afterwards, banish this card until the next Standby Phase. This effect […]

Disappointed?
In unrelated news, that new Dracos field spell can search Master Peace.

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>>160509794
Wind rituals are unplayable right?
Why WIND is so shit?

>>160510113
TRASH card that fits Bakura perfectly.
Couldn't they give it a Cydra summoning effect? An 1800 level 5 has no business existing in 2016.

Zarc is a fusion pendulum, Does this mean pendulum magicians will be Yuya's deck by the end of the show?

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>>160510176

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>mfw zarcs cards are actually getting printed
>they're actually good

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>>160510478
>Opponent summons all Dimensional Dragons and the Supreme King Dragon
>Attack directly 12 times with the 12.000 atk Nightingale while the dragons do nothing but be a nonexistent wall

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PRINT MEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I AM OBSCURE ENOUGH AND IT'S BEEN MORE THAN 10 YEARS DO IT ALREADY

>Predaplant brilliant dolches
fuggg :DDDDDDD

>>160510113
What the fuck, that's not even close to what it's supposed to do

>>160510176
Wind is the only good Synchro attribute you pleb.

>>160510113
>In unrelated news, that new Dracos field spell can search Master Peace.
But Master Peace has zero synergy with Wyrm Rulers

>>160510932
It's for Metal Box of Friends.

>>160511065
Wait, you still run that? Mind sharing your current build? I've been playing it a lot at locals and need to see more builds.

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>>160510176
>He doesnt know how to summon a bunch of synchros in one turn without masturbating

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>>160510872
>Synchro only has one good atribute while Xyz has all 6

>>160506358
>rank 3
Arent preda level 2

So Astro and Chrono will work with Metalfoes, right?

>Shapesnatch is an Immortal
Holy shit I never knew

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>>160510554
Just 12000?

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>>160511592
Riiiight

>>160510113
That doesn't resemble its anime effect
>Once per turn, you can equip this card to a face-up monster your opponent controls, OR unequip it to Special Summon this card. The equipped monster loses ATK equal to this card's original ATK. If the equipped monster is destroyed by battle, Special Summon this card. If this card destroys an opponent's monster by battle, it also gains that monster's effect(s).

Pretty damn weird

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>>160511638

>>160511347
Not really, no.
I just see it mentioned quite frequently here, before ABC format.
Here's something though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poMdvTG7pvo

>>160510805
You're right, I believe that's the only "important" monster from Yugioh R left. We got Melody of Awakening Dragon (a spell card literally nobody expected) a while ago, so it should be in PP19, that way they can brag about having cards from every Manga that's been in V-Jump.

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hey guise, am I finally good?

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>>160511969

>>160511969
The new Trap is good. Now to see how good the new Spell and Monster will be. BB may not be a meme anymore if they are really good.

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Okay at 1 by now or not?

>>160511969
>Pulled one and a pair of the new busted blader
maybe!

>>160511798
R had insane spells that are yet to be printed, like the spell card that turned equip spells into monsters and the spell that evolved Obelisk and his Evil God counterpart.

>The Dragon Magicians are a jrpg party
fug

>>160512185
>this ever going back
>even more now that meme toad is available
lol nope

>>160512185
Sure. At least it doesn't banish 10 cards of your deck, therefore putting yourself in advantage and abusing Psy-Fram OVerlord Omegiggle

>more pred plant support

fug yis :DDD

>>160512360
>jrpg party
>everyone is using magic wand
A good balance there.

>>160510805
It would need new Fusion materials. The Fusion of Gearfried the Iron Knight and a Vanilla Fusion just doesn't cut it.

>>160512618
Iris is the Red Mage, Black and White Mages are obvious
then who was venom?
Necromancer?

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>>160512282

I would love to see that equip monster speel from R get printed, but how on earth would they make that work. I believe the equip cards still had there effects after becoming monsters, might be a ruling nightmare if they ever decide to print that. Or release them as monsters similar to Artifacts.

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>You can only use this effect of “Predaplant Darling Cobra” once per Duel.
>once per Duel
>per Duel.
>Duel.
>.
A HA HA HA HAHAHA
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHASDHFDHAKHAFKRGY HTUL RUIHIL$YÑO )$=!( %^=
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>>160511635
>tfw no Immortal archetype that retrains all of it's members and gives them artwork that finally gives an idea of how they actually look like

>>160512946
So close the relevancy, yet so far.

>>160512946
searches Super Poly ;)

Oh wait, I'm so fucking sorry

>use Dragonic Diagram to pop hitler in hand
What's the best hyper combo you can pull off of this?

I wonder if Zarc will be worth it.

>>160513161
summon the Korean Seahorse and go ham with Denglong and Accel Synchron

>>160513249
>>summon the Korean Seahorse
I had no idea Tewart was actually Shun all along

>>160513280
I never said from deck ;)

You could stick a Rat engine to make 1-card Drancia + Yazi and go ham with any of your destruction cards afterwards

Pick up the true kings, yay or nay

>>160513704
Yes.

Why are the level 5-6 Dracos so bad?
Are you just supposed to play the True Kings and field spell in Yang Zings?

>>160513704
Yay, they look fun.

>>160513704
Nay, they suck

>>160512185
Here's the remake
>Can only be played at the start of MP1.
>Cannot Summon or play cards from the hand until your next turn.
:^)

>>160512946
Eeeeehhh...

Maybe it's just me, but I ran both Brilliant Fusion with one Garnet and Terrortop with one Taketonborg and honestly on any practical sense, both these combos are "once per duel" to me.

I think when the Zodiac Beasts inevitably get fucked up, I'll try this engine on my Madolches.

>>160513750
>>160513774
Yeah they do look pretty cool.
When exactly are we getting the last two and then the support? And then there's still more to come isn't there?

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>True kings are based on tribute and setting up Continuous S/T which will die to disruption.
>More garbage anime cards like Superheavy Sams, Lunalights, Fluffals and Predaplants
>Dimension Box supporting Sacred Beasts out of all things
>Diabound got nerfed
>Gandora is wasting a V-JUMP promo slot
>The new SD is just a stupid HITOTSU NI deck and is better off geared towards R4 spam.
V-JUMPs just keep getting worse, here's hoping next month with the banlist and the new series is finally worthwhile

>>160514187
Are you implying that Astrograph and Chronograph are bad?

>>160514296
he mentioned only bad things
and didn't mention those

so I would guess not

>>160507656
yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chazz_Princeton_(Tag_Force)
Scroll down to Tag Force 3 (Obelisk Blue) and use Chazz Princeton 5. However please note you can only use his deck under the Traditional banlist, as Dimension Fusion and Return from the Different Dimension are banned under the Anime banlist.

>>160514187
This shit was nice for petdeck shitters like me so hey.

>>160514187
We're going to be in a t0 format, who cares that petdecks are getting support?

>>160514296
They kinda are unless Zarc is actually a really strong card. Honestly, unless it's better than Crystal Wing, Lighting and Castal it's shit.

>>160512946
Reminder that it searches fucking super fusion.

>>160514187
>The new SD is just a stupid HITOTSU NI deck and is better off geared towards R4 spam.
But that's great because I can add Rat and improve the deck.

>>160510113
If the effect works during either player's turn it's not a bad effect. The level 5 with no summoning clause kills it.

>>160514187
>and setting up Continuous S/T which will die to disruption
The way you can activate them straight from the deck, both on your turn, and the opponent's turn, probably makes them quite playable to be honest.

>>160514296
What are they good for? The Magicians they float into a garbage and summoning themselves is men though searching the card you popped could be useful in the future.
Besides, Zarc could easily be garbage which dies to Kaijus so he won't be worth a damn anyways

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https://ygorganization.com/whyarentyouplayingpokemon/
>whyarentyouplayingpokemon
CryingAnimeGirl.gif.webm.exe

>>160515294
I need to go out and buy today, but I also need to pay my preorder for a figure and I don't have money for both atm.

fuuuuug ------DDDDDDD

what can you do with the new SHS?

>>160512825
That one shitter who runs a pure status effect build

>>160515294
My country isn't even in the EU, yet I still have to wait as much as my neighbours.

>STILL no new update with the new cards
_____

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>>160515180
>though searching the card you popped could be useful
You don't say.
It gives you your other Wisdom-Eye whenever you use your Wisdom-Eye.

So what other indirect generic support cards could help Cubics? Like for example the Foolish Burial of Belongings is pretty good for the deck. What else could benefit them?

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Konami your so close please. You gave the sacred Beast support, now what about my dudes right here?

>>160515115
>>If the effect works during either player's turn it's not a bad effect.
It might?
The last line of text before the BIG YELLOW FONT obscures the card's effect begins exactly like the "this effect can also be activated during the opponent's turn" wording quick effects get in the OCG.

>>160515294
>WW: November 18
>EU: November 23

>Worldwide
>Europe
Why are these two separate dates?

>>160515180
They're honestly pretty good even if you completely disregard Zarc.

>destroy 1 card you control/in your hand AND IF YOU DO
when does this end

>>160515859
>your other Wisdom-Eye
But it's limited

>>160516080
Not in the OCG.

>>160515905
Konami is printing support that was already in the anime. Did these guys have any support in the Manga?

So are you even going to bother synchro or fusion summoning with the new magicians?

>>160516170
They're all level 4, what do you think anon?

>>160516170
I see no reason for why you wouldn't play Odd-Eyes Fusion.

So aside from the spider which is just a worse Castel, nothing of any sort of interest or notability was revealed. Great.

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This thing seems like its gonna be crazy

>Tenrin no Souseidoushi / Celestial >Double Star Shaman
>Level 2 LIGHT Fairy-Type Synchro >Tuner Effect Monster
>ATK 100
>DEF 800
>Synchro Materials: 1 Tuner + 1 non-Tuner monster
>You can only use the effect of “Celestial Double Star Shaman” once per turn.
>(1) When this card is Synchro Summoned: You can activate this effect; you cannot Special Summon mosnters from the Extra Deck for the rest of this turn, except Synchro Monsters, also Special Summon up to 4 Level 2 non-Tuner monsters from your hand or Graveyard in Defense Position, but their effects are negated.

>>160516316
DUDE DIABOUND!
laughing my ass off

>>160516170
Luster triggers all of the destruction effects, and said effects don't even have hard OPT restrictions. So I imagine that Luster will be a staple.
And with Luster in the deck, in addition to White Wing Magician, Ignister would be a staple too.
And you could still a run a copy of Dinoster.

>>160516170
Generic rank 4 alone isn't a win con, every rank 4 deck has something else backing it up.
Besides, there's no reason not to at least use synchros, when your primary Xyz enabler is also your best synchro enabler, and synchros are generally better than Xyz but harder to summon.
Vortex Dragon is fucking good too.

>>160516437
>Tuningware and Darksea Rescue are level 1, not 2
Well, that's probably for the best. It would be prime time FTK bait otherwise.

>>160516437
All that nothing sure is crazy.

>>160516542
>and synchros are generally better than Xyz
Some strong delusion here.

>>160516437
>"for the rest of this turn" instead of just "this turn"
Oh fuck Konami was actually merciful to Synchros with this

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>>160515871
>What else could benefit them?
Being thrown into a garbage bin.

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Are Toons good now with the shitton of support?

>>160516645
The only Synchro you actually need to run in that deck is Void Ogre to be honest

>>160516772
i dont know
are red eyes good after he shitton of support?

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>Chouetsu Yuugou / Transcendental Fusion
>Normal Spell Card
>Cards and effects cannot be activated in reponse to this card’s activation
>(1) Pay 2000 LP; Fusion Sumon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, using 2 monsters you control as Fusion Materials.
>(2) You can banish this card from your Graveyard, then target 1 monster Fusion Summoned using this card’s effect; Special Summon all of the Fusion Materials for that monster’s Fusion Summon from your Graveyard, but their ATK and DEF become 0, also their effects are negated.

this is basically super poly except nerfed

>>160516803
That doesn't take care of the delusion, but all right.

>>160516819
Except not at all.

So wait, with VFD's effect that lets you destroy opponent's cards for summons can you destroy cards in hand too or just their cards on field?

>>160516819
That might be good in Lunalights thinking about it, perhaps not as it can't be searched, but I mean if you summon Panther with it it's grave effect gives you the materials to then summon Leo

>>160516316
True Dracos will be meta.
And Japan will absolutely love Scorpio/Cobra.
And Magicians may very well make a return with the structure.

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>CORE was Red-eyes support
>DOCS was BLS support
>BOSH was Buster Blader support
>SHVI was Blue-eyes support
>TDIL was Dark Magician support
>INOV was more Red-eyes support with 3 cards
>RATE was more BLS support with 3 cards
>MACR is more Buster Blader support
So the patterns are true, Buster Blader has 2 more cards left then Blue-eyes should get support in the opening set of series 6.

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>>160516819
>Summon Nekroz of Unicore
>make a generic R4
>get a Synchro on the Field
>Transcendental Fusion into Norden
>Norden SS' Unicore
>Transcendental Fusion Summons the R4 and Synchro
>Summon Sophia

>>160507007
NAW I agree. It's really cool. Sharp claws having zero attack is weird though

>>160516928
Just on the field, says so on the moonrune card text, org just screwed up.
Otherwise there'd be janky rulings if it's public knowledge that all your opponent has in their hand are monsters, which would allow you to destroy their hand.
And that's also really gay.

On the other hand, I'm really happy VFD is GENERIC AS SHIT for a boardwide effect negation.

>>160516819
I don't really get why this card costs 2000 LP to activate.

>>160517046
So much delusion, save for the obvious fact that shitters will love shitter cards.

>>160517296
I think LP is the new way to balance really good card effects because you can play them no problem but not all in one deck.

Is Enlightenment Paladin worth running now in OEM?

>>160517296
To make you lose because you wasted LP on a garbage card instead of one of the Solemns.

>>160517357
Just like Zodiacs were shit right?

>>160517446
No, it never was.

>Destiny Soldiers Allure is $5

Fucking shitters. Looks like the Structure Deck in January is the way to go.

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>>160517046
>And Magicians may very well make a return with the structure.
>Wisdom-Eye at 1
>Pendulum Call at 1
>Kirin at 1
Unless Rank 4 gets some more stupid cards in MACR Magicians are staying dead.
These new Magicians are all gimmicks meant to turbo out a boss monster nobody knows anything about.

>>160517483
Zood dudes tapped into something notable; these do not.

>>160517401
>way to balance really good card effects
Sure. Which is why I don't understand why it's on Transcendental Fusion.

>>160517552
>>Wisdom-Eye at 1
Only in the TCG. Because the TCG is eternally fucked.

>>160517545
Do you really think our venerable and holy lord Tewart will grant us a reprint of Allure in Pendulum Domination now that he's had the grace of reprinting it in DESO already?
Ungrateful, self-entitled prick.

>>160517678
>Because the TCG is eternally better at balance
ftfy

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Post yfw Supreme King Dragon Zarc dies to Castel

>>160517789
// Tewart

>>160517296
Because fusion+xyz or synchro.

>>160517265
Gonna meme with it in Blue-Eyes with castles, I guess. Gonna try and myke wyrm rulers work too.

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Is this card a walking pachinko machine?

>>160517892
>Because fusion+xyz.
That's better.

>>160518043
Are you the really caustic guy that has been responding to like half the posts in this thread whenever anyone ever said anything positive about the new cards?

>>160518002
It's a slot machine but its slots always read ???. You put in two monsters and get 1 monster with 2000 ATK.

>>160518138
It's probably just the resident synchro hater.

>>160516437
>Doppel Warrior shenanigans

I'm banning every Mermail, Atlantean, ABC, Nekroz, Monarch, Pendulum, D/D, Lightsworn, Blue-Eyes, Zoodiac, Metalfoes, Dimensional Fisure, and Marco Cosmos to ensure BA and Kozmos don't die out.

>>160518217
Are we really still doing this nonsense? Goddamn.

>>160518138
>>160518217
Yes, because only one person could dislike garbage.

>>160518345
>Marco Cosmos

>inb4 dark summoning beast isnt once per turn nor does it do anything to hurt the Sacred Beasts

>Activate field spell
>Pendulum summon 2-3 Dark Summoning Beasts
> Summon out Uria, Hamon, Raviel


Also anime Star Shaman could summon as many level 2 monsters as possible, didnt have to be non tuner or anything

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>>160518417
You tell'em boss.

>>160518417
It's not about you hating shit, it's about your posting style being recognizable as fuck.

>>160518445
HEBEE
MUHSHEENGAN

Why are all the synchros for pendulum magicians so bad? Odd Eyes Meteorburst Dragon, Enlightenment Paladin, Nirvana High Paladin, they're all garbage. I'm hoping Pendulum Evolution actually has a new synchro worth using in the deck, same with the xyz because Raging and Rebellion Dragon are useless trash. Even Ritual Odd Eyes is worthless. lp doesn't mean anything in this game especially paying 500 of it

>>160518626
Your point is?

>>160518649
I would in no way call Meteorburst garbage. It is however highly situational.

Wow this new SD is fucking garbage.

>>160518649
What's wrong with them?

>>160518793
>It is however highly situational.
So trash.
Every boss monster needs to be an Infinity clone.

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>>160518892
What did you just say, punk?

Manga version of Starve Venom
"Starve Venemy Dragon"
Level 7

>>160518892
>boss monster
It's not a boss monster though. It's a basic synchro you summon to completely stomp floaters and battle handtraps.

>>160518826
They don't autowin the game at the cost of a single generic card.

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>supreme dragon king zarc is going to be immune to card effects and untributable, have doubled battle damage even on defense position monsters, cockblock monster effects, and permanently gain atk equal to a special summoned monster your opponent controls when summoned
>it's also going to float into all 4 dimension dragons if removed from the field by any means
screencap this post

>>160519060
You forgot
>summon cannot be negated

What do you guys think of Gozuki? I look forward to running him in my zombie decks.

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In other news, the remaining 2 manga counterparts to the Dimension Dragons are know revealed.

>>160518826
Meteorburst only negates in progress effects during the battle phase, Nirvana High Paladin requires that you use Pendulum monsters and synchro monsters to bring it out yet it's effect is just cutting LP in half upon destroying a monster in a game where LP is meaningless. It's also impossible to summon back to the field in case it dies, which it will since it has no protection at all and it's only 3300 atk.

Enlightenment Paladin is as mediocre as they come, you need a magician monster to gain back a spell, it's a level 8 in a deck where every single tuner monster punishes you for daring to synchro summon and it has a shitty burn effect in a game where LP doesn't matter.

Raging and Rebellion require an xyz monster as xyz material to gain their effects. Their extremely mediocre effects that will never go off in a real game meta or petdeck wise and when you bring them back you only have a useless 3000 beater.

>>160519026
They don't win games period. They aren't even worth summoning. They turned out to be worse than the elemental attribute heroes, at least those have Super Polymerization, these cards don't have any use at all.

Has the power creep'd to the point where the only way a boss card can be "good" is if it free-negates 1 your opponents actions and eats their cards while being untargetable and indestructible and can be summoned by generic means that can be turbo in 1 turn?

At this rate future boss cards won't even be able to be removed from the field by opponents tributing them or "back to hand/deck" effects as well. We'll hit a point where drawing 30 cards to Exodia will make a comeback because both players dropping negatefields and Megabosses won't allow either player to do a damn thing.

>>160519347
The game has already become a simple coin flip because decks can't beat their own fields, so whoever goes first and makes their field wins.

>>160519347
Nah, it's mostly /dng/ being delusional as always.

>>160519347
When any deck can out anything else due to easily accessed removal from the ED, you need that for the boss to be worth bothering with.

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>>160519060
>opponent summons Astrograph or Chronograph
>discard this and reveal Zarc
So much for the Supreme Dragon King

>>160519347
Hey, if you don't like it you could always play another game. The only way to win at YGO is stopping your opponent from playing while you beat their head in with your flood gates in 1 or 2 turns.

>>160519283
>>160519408
>know
Also they look unbelievably hideous

>>160517735
I swear if he fucks that deck over after pushing it back by a year.

>>160519574
They look like people in dragon armor. Why is it that only Odd Eyes Phantom Dragon looks like an actual dragon? Why is it that these are all pendulum cards? Why is it that Yuto's is a rank 7 as opposed to a rank 4?

>>160519682
>Why is it that Yuto's is a rank 7 as opposed to a rank 4?
Because we have more than enough rank 4 cancer already?

>>160519631
He'll push it back even further and remove the Allure and other things.

So we can all agree that this V Jump was shit, right?

>>160519767
no

>>160519682
>Why is it that Yuto's is a rank 7 as opposed to a rank 4?
Konami trying to boost other ranks for once.
We got VFD which is a huge boost to R9.

>>160519682
>manga shit
>commonly making sense

>>160519739
Kill yourself, shitter.

>>160519767
>new Lunalight
>cool ass wyrm ruler shit
hell nah

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>>160519347
Good boss monster design must NOT be based on OTKs, they are obsolete.
They must be
>easy to summon
>impede the opponent's strategy with disruption or floodgates
>be able to float or tag out to ensure to card advantage not was lost
A good boss monster must have atleast 2/3 above qualities otherwise it is shit and must NOT be played
Boss monsters with protection are overrated, everything has an out.

>>160519767
>KANGZ
>Brohunder to buff Batterymen
>Lunalight support
You have shit taste in decks.

>>160519682
>Why is it that these are all pendulum cards?
Because they're all influenced by one another, sharing Yuya's body. Clear Wing evolved into Pendulum because of it, just like how Yuya's Performapals change depending on who's taking/will be taking over. Phantom Dragon/Persona/Mirage is from Yuto's influence, I'm pretty sure.

Anselion Dragon is probably a R7 to match up with the others and because the last thing we need is more R4.

>>160519767
>BroHunder printed
Only thing I actually wanted from Premium Pack so nah.

>>160519767
It was ok. I could care less about all the petdecks that got support and the structure deck doesn't look like it's going to be that good. I'm just looking forward for the Arc-V era to end already and to move on to the next series.

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>>160519867
>>160519882
>playing/caring about those petdecks
Disgusting.

>>160519882
Says the person who admits to liking garbage.

>>160520019
>he says as he posts a card from a deck that is either already petdeck status or will be soon
Nice.

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>mfw pendulum magicians become meta again and all the metashitters switch over to it without a moment of hesitation

>>160519574
The Dark Rebellion counterpart is cool, he looks like regular DR wearing Utopia armor. The Starve Venom counterpart is too zoomed-in to properly judge.

>>160519682
Don't forget he also has 3000 ATK, also Starve Venomy Dragon is level 7 and has 2500 ATK.

>>160519868
Ok then Construct can go back to 3 right?

>>160520141
Hello Dia.

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>go first
>summon Assembly Nightingale with 5 mats
>follow up with 5 mat Recite Starling
>give Assembly +1500 ATK and attack 5 times for 12500 damage

>>160519748
>You guys just got Allure
>No one wants it taking up space in the Structure Deck
>Maxx C is in the Ancient Gear deck?
>No one wants that
>Replace it with Swift Scarecrow

>>160520019
>that card art
disgusting.
In much the same way that it looks like a kids toy, it's also kid-proof in that if you break it it just reforms

>>160520165
He looks like a man in a suit cosplaying a very ugly dragon.

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OEM player here, i dont know how to feel about the new cards, i feel like Pendulumgraph of Ages is the only definitive good card in there, definitely a 2-3 of, it makes it so we get a lot of advantage from abusing sky iris which is good.

But astrograph and that other faggot look pretty bad, the one that summons himself from hand and searches is ok but i would NEVER run timegazer or stargazer and there's 0 reason to do so even now, so i dont know if they fit in the deck or not.

And the dimensional dragon guys are ok at best, i'm also not sure if id run any of them besides the odd-eyes one, the best thing they have to offer is being great searchable scales (maybe i can finally take out the shitty performapals off the deck with these cards).
The starve venom one is shit, the clear wing one is good but tune magician kinda does the job better since it has a great monster effect and the rebellion one is meh.
I have no idea what ZARC will do, but to me it just seems like a gimmicky idea, i would not want to turn my OEM into ZARC.turbo.dek.

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>>160520089
>ABC
>petdeck
It's still topping.

>>160520319
He gutted all the Galaxy reprints from DRL3, you fucking bet he'd do that

>>160520418
You're going to run the Performapals anyway because of Pendulum Sorcerer.

>>160520454
>8.75
Impressive.

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>>160520418
>gimmicky
>literally just have to dump your 4 dragon magicians into the graveyard using r4 which you're going to be doing regardless

>>160520526
I didnt run sorcerer before and i'm not running him now, the only performapals i run are the ones searchable from sky iris simply to use them as scales.
I hope we get more Pendulumgraph cards, i feel like we will

>>160520705
Sure, you'll always start with all 4 magicians, zarc and useable scales to summon them all and do some rank 4s, and surely you'll be able to dump them all with the xyz effects on your first turn, surely you will anon.

>>160520705
>>160520968
You do realize they can banish them from the hand and field
And that you can banish the actual dragons themselves too

>>160515950
Everybody knows
>euro

>>160520968
>needing to first turn it
>not holding it as your trump card once you're running low on resources like a true anime character
I'm not saying you'll get it out ASAP you dip, but between Sky Iris, Pendulum Call, Pendulumgraph of Ages, and Insight, it's hilarious easy to grab whatever you need at any given time, especially over the course of the game. They can also be banished from the hand or field as well, the graveyard was just the most likely scenario.

>>160520848
There's a Pendulumgraph of Constellations we haven't seen yet.

>>160514764

Thanks mate, I was planning on editing the decklist a bit anyway if I found one, remove the banned ccards and add in some newer cards from modern sets for fun.

>>160519767
A bunch of my petdecks got new toys so I'm happy enough.

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It's almost over, after this week OCG only has 4 more weeks of Zoodiac leptospirosis and then the Rat gets exterminated.
Now the question is what deck will be able to compete with ABC, Metalfoes and Noided after the list.

>>160521138
The first turn is the ONLY turn.

>>160521174
The answer is Infernities, just you wait.

>>160521248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4tGkfIMJf4

>>160520418
Violet Poison pops face up cards upon destruction. Without an OPT restriction. While also being able to buff your monsters.

Likewise Black Fang can fuck the ATK points of your opponent's monsters, while summoning all your Spellcasters in your graveyard since it too lacks an OPT restriction.

And Astrograph is no doubt good. It grabs you additional copies of your monsters while summoning itself for easy access to Synchros or Xyzs.

>>160521174
>people still think Rat will be hit

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>>160506237
>(1) If a card you control is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can Special Summon this card from your hand, then, you can Special Summon 1 monster from your hand.
>You can Special Summon this card from your hand, then, you can Special Summon 1 monster from your hand.
Yuugou Shokan!

>Pendulum cards. That floats. Without once per turn restrictions.
I guess they want pendulums to go out with a bang.

>>160521523
What else can they hit?
ABC is struggling to stay relevant, Metalfoes already took punishment and can't be punished anymore and everything else from the old 2016 meta is now a rogue deck anyways.
Unless they're letting off some DUEA stuff, the banlist is pointless

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>For Each Era:

>DM: Yugi VS Atem, the Final Duel of Destiny
>GX: Judai VS Chronos, the Thank You Duel from Season 4
>5D’s: Yusei VS Jack, the Series Finale Duel in Japan
>ZEXAL: Yuma VS Astral, the Series Finale Duel
>ARC-V: Sora VS Shun, in the Heartland City Field at the MCS!
>Yuma VS Astral
>mfw braving memory and halfway to forever get printed

Pojo confirmed, pendulum evolution is garbage

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Whatever happened to D/D? I remember everybody hyping up this deck after how it was doing in the OCG but it just fell off.
Were the semi limits enough to kill it or something?

>>160521138
Anon...games nowadays only last 2-3 turns, a gimmicky strategy like summoning Zarc wont help us win against Zodiacs, metalfoes and ABCs, it just doesnt seems consistant enough yet, how are you going to dump them? is the zarc pay off really going to be that good? we dont know but i think it wont.

Here's hoping the other pendulumgraphs give us some sort of either consistent stun or more advantage for destroying our own cards with iris

>>160521890
The Rulers will be meta only about a month after the banlist, so there's no reason to bother hitting them.

>>160521174
>implying konami will hit the rat THIS early

>>160522141
>Whatever happened to D/D?
They've been meta for almost as long as the TCG hasn't had them.
They've been very successful.

>>160503612
Zorc Necrophades, when?

>>160521413
Here's how i see it: pendulumgraph and iris magician are a 2-3 off and astrograph, black fang, violet poison and clear wing are 1offs

These are the ratios that i would theorically play, they'll probably change.

>>160512946
You only need brilliant meme once.

>summon Ophrys Scorpio (lonefire/normal)
>special darling cobra
>search instant fusion
>overlay for m-x-saber
>special rat
>end with drancia + m-x-saber + emeral + rafflesia

Why are EM, SR, PK and PP all engines?

>>160522141
rat too strong
rip DDD

>>160505903
What is that, Legendary Knight Odd-Eyes?

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>>160515859
>It gives you your other Wisdom-Eye whenever you use your Wisdom-Eye.
Fuck KoA! Fuck Koa! Fuck Tewart! Just fuck Konami of America so much!
Fucking why!? Why did they fucking LIMIT Wisdom-Eye Magician?
It wasn't even fucking meta! FUCK!

>>160505984
Male

>>160506058
Female

>>160505903
Is this male or female?

>>160506142
Likewise. Male or female?