/fgog/ - Fate/Grand Order General

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Best boy

>>160419814
>and that's how i grew a futa dick and fucked my wife

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Liz a cute!

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Convince me she is not a slut. You can't

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I want Alter Santa to ride me!

Which Servant do you want to make love to the most?

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>>160420087
I can't, Luvia is definitely a slut.

>>160420130
Mo-san and Saber Lily at the same time.

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>darius-kun

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xth for Lancelot

>>160420197
Could she take his girth?

>>160420130
I want to have gentle lovemaking with lily.

>>160420232
Which lily?

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>>160420130
She would likely kill me instead, but still I adore her.

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>>160419340
>>160419736
FUCK

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>>160420328
This Lily of course.

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Santa's coming.

>>160420130
I don't have such Servant. Yet.

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I hope you guys haven't been overfeeding your kouhai, she's clearly overweight already.

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>>160420130
This cutie. Or Siegfried and George, or the good Doctor

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>>160420467
How can you do that with such slut though?

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>>160420405
Oh wow, sorry to hear that. Guess that makes it rare for me to have.

I fucking hate farming ribbons, fuck.

55 per run and I need 1300 of them at least.

>>160420551

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Nobu a CUTE.

>>160420130
Da Vinci
tfw no lewds of her

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>>160420130

>>160420551
It can't be helped. The only way to stop her from speaking in her awful new voice is to plug her mouth up with my cock and she's probably overfed on my semen.

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What she is cooking fgog?

>>160420551
It's her fault really for slurping on so much Zerker cum. Well at least that keeps them from getting restless

>>160420680
Siegfrieda a cute

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>>160420130
I want to fill Nero with my seed.

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>I didn’t think that it would end, so abruptly, like this.
>My ending can’t have arrived just yet.

>Still, at least……
>Yes, at least…...

>I must put a smile……….
>On my face……

>At the end…….

>Manaka: “―――――I love you. Saber.”

Manaka ;_;

>>160420589
Upload it to imgur or something.

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Is it just me, or David's humming really became more silent?

>>160420813
She wanted to be penetrated by his Holy Sword
Saber just took it too literally

New colab when?

>>160420130
Mo-san, all the flat Sabers and Astolfo

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>>160420874
Pokemon colab when?

>>160420874
Colab?

>>160420829
Here. I'll be nice, for once. puu sh/slir1/cf3293895c.jpg

>>160421023
A lab you share with someone.

>>160420957
Why pokemon keeps coming up with the most retarded designs?

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>>160420915
>all the flat Sabers
How contemptible.

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>>160421041
Thanks mate.

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>>160421228
You're welcome, I guess.

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Reminder \_/ N RI \/A | / ED can also Overload and swordbeam like Saber Lancelot but he didn't in Zero because Saber is a weakling so he didn't need it and he only fought for 10 seconds.

>>160421382
ok

I want to see Darius fuck Saber Alter now.

>>160420813
Scan when

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>Put cake with LB'd Janne CE in supports since I don't have Santa
>Most used servant is Raikou with sumo CE

>>160421610
No one cares about this rerun

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Unf.

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>>160421610
>Put Dante's with Janne's bond CE in supports since I don't like the slut
>25 points
>Put Dante's with LB's lunch CE
>800 points

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>>160420213
Zerkerlot is old and busted.

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900 prisms left to LB Lunch CE but I'm not autistic enough to spend my time farming for them. Is there any chance I make it?

>>160421853
Nigga you have 40 days

>>160421853
>wasting prisms on that shitty CE
No regrets burning it.

>>160421752
who is that artist

>>160421919
We've heard you before braindead anon, nobody gives a shit about what you do.

>>160422017
I think. https://twitter.com/lalalalack

>>160422028
Just giving him advice on it's uselessness.

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Will you be buying Zhao Yun's game /fgog/?

https://youtu.be/hjpUWEULRGY

>>160422157
Fuck off with your chink memes already

>>160422157
>Zhao Yun
Call me if Zhang Liao gets a game

>>160422157
Zhao Who?

>>160421610
I'm scum and need more supports. W-will you be my friend?
905,210,979

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>>160422157
There's one chink I'm hyped for

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>>160422278
I don't have a lot to offer but if you really want it then sure.
Name's Miya

>He bids Arash farewell, saying that his blade can show its true worth if facing a strong opponent like him.
>show its true worth
What did he mean by this?

>>160421752
Inaccurate trash

Reading the Material again

-Yeah Archimedes is helping out Velber of his own will

-The comet's core is surrounded by countless ships, and THREE were dropped in the solar system 14,000 years ago

-Karna and Artoria are Top Servants

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>>160422157
>not even a legit DW game

Guan Yu 5* when lads?

Zhao Yun 4* when lads?

>>160422670
5* LU BU FUCKING WHEN

Post OOC garbage

>>160422667
>Karna and Artoria are Top Servants
Oh and it also says that Lancelot is above them both

>>160422749
lmao

>tfw no good ntr doujins of your waifu

>>160421041
I understand someone would like to see her getting fucked by a horse, but whats up with the milking part?

>>160422667
>Three were dropped in the solar system
Sequel confirmed
>>160422761
Fuck off

>>160422670
Guan Who?
Zhao Whon?

>>160422667
>Top Servants
>like Jeanne and Iskandar
Yeah that term is a meme, nobody cares.

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>>160422749

When we get the red hare from the leaked list.

>>160422761
Is it that time again?

>>160422804
>Sequel confirmed
Didn't Nasu comfirm Extella is only the first part of a new series?

>>160422761
Why do you feel the need to shitpost about this? We know those two are top tier. We've known for years.

There's emphasis on how Altera leading to the creation of Attila the Hun only worked this way in the Extra world (wording-wise it seems to suggests that Attila exists in some other form in other worlds?)

>>160422761
Fuck off shitposter

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>>160422512
I'm worried I have even less to offer.
Happy to be your friend though.

>>160422801
I assume it's to further establish her status as human cattle or something. That or maybe some people just like seeing girls getting milked.

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>>160422667
>Top Servants
This sadness will be the end of us

>>160422761
ok

>>160422753
>>160422861

>>160422870
>tripfag
Kill yourself we don't need that shit here, autist.

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>>160422819

Guan "Has a big ass statue of him" Yu

>>160422870
So the faggots who wanted "real atilla" might have hope

>>160422837
Top Servant doesn't literally mean strongest. It's just a name for "Mooncell's final defence mechanism", servants it summons to defend itself. Gilgamesh isn't one because Mooncell didn't summon him, for example.

>>160422857
>We know those two are top tier.
Top tier =/= Top Servants

Iskandar, Cu and Jeanne sure as hell are nowhere near top tier like Karna.

>>160422949
When will the shu wanks end

I find it funny that both BL's FGO thread and /fgog/ have a shitposter associated with Lancelot.

>>160423006
Similarly, "Anticell" is just the name for Velber's vanguard invasion weapons (Altera and her siblings) which aren't actually anti anything, let alone cells.

Blame Nasu.

>>160423006
So why Iskandar or Jeanne?

>>160421041
I'm really dumb and I can't open it help

>>160423006
>Top Servant doesn't literally mean strongest
I think that was clear enough when even Broskander XD is a "top" Servant and not Achilles or Ozymandias.

>>160423127
>achilles
>literally confirmed to be only second best greek
>after fucking herkek
Sure seems top to me :^)

>>160423053

Whats boys love's shitposter like?

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https://www.myinstants.com/instant/saber-alter-singing-fatego/#.WChobB1flOM

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Shiki anon here,

Cheatapk in 5 minutes

>>160423095
Considering the mid level shit it summons as """""top""""" (Cu, Saber, Jeanne and Iskander who are trash when compared to true top tiers), the Moon Cell probably used up too much power summoning Karna or something.

Void cells are the stuff that make up Velber 02's core.

I was misremembering when I previously said Nero summoned her servants; They're solo servants (independent servants with no masters) summoned by Mooncell that have to listen to her because of the Regalia's authority (though Gawain seems to be the only caze where this is necessary)

>>160423254
Cu isn't said to be a top servant in the Material and I don't recall them saying so in the game either.

How the fuck am I supposed to get all of these drops? Fuck DW.

>>160423184
>Hippolyta is 3rd at best and yet is alnost as strong as Alcides who is stronger than Heracles

Alcides: 9000
Heracles: 8800
Hippolyta: 8700
Achilles: 8750

>>160422935
>re.ddit trying to fit in

He's using the trip correctly fag

>>160423350
It's pretty easy with five of each event CE all LB'd. -DW

>>160423324
Some faggot said that EMIYA mentioned Cu being a """"top"""" Servant.

>>160423368
And let's take into account we know little about Theseus when he makes his way into the game Achilles will drop some more. Even Perseus might make him drop

>Update
Whats happening?

>>160423451
New mission ofc

>>160423324
So who summoned the non top servants?

>>160423257
Kek based Gawain

Nobody actually thinks Cu is a strong servant lore-wise right?

Why do we hate Prototype Fragments?

>>160423324
While you're here, does Karna have an explanation for why he doesn't have his armor?

>>160423576
Sakurai wrote it.

>>160423558
People try to meme about Scat being strong so that wouldn't surprise me

>>160423580
I think that's on his spear.

>>160423558
Stated in FSN that his fame and power in Europe is on the same level as Heracles and King Arthur, and Emiya confirms that Gae Bolg is more powerful than the Norse chief deity Odin's spear Gungnir. Nasu wouldn't lie to us.

>>160423102
http and dot.
Don't make me be so nice again pls.

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>>160423368
>Alcides who is stronger than Heracles

>>160423442
But Achilles is still 2nd. The quote about Achilles is that he is only behind Heracles in power. It doesn't say how much behind, just that he is behind. Hippolyta only proves that the top Greeks aren't that far from each other in terms of power, if anything the difference is only a slight one if even the 3rd at best has power close to the 1st (who is even more powerful than before).

>>160423576
Sakurai, people only read that and hate the thing. I think is ok though.

>>160423441
You wouldn't happen to mean when he said it in Fate/Stay Night, would you

>>160423576
Because loli Misaya wasn't the MC.

>people actually claim Hippolyta is close to Alcides powerlevel
LMAO

>>160422935

>D-do I fit in yet?

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>>160423714
>FSN Cu is stronger than Origin Servants
>Saber is stronger than the strongest Servant

>>160423012
There are probably different levels within the Top thing.

>>160423698
Thanks m8

>>160423576
It's a bit boring desu.

>>160423828
>Cu is the exception since he's literal who garbage
>Saber can never be at full power because the servant container fucks with her
>Heracles is indeed stronger than when he's altered, as proven by losing a rank in END, and having his skill ranks dropped
hmmmmmmmmm

The animals mutated By Sephar to become Velber's minions are called Sentinels.

Further explanation on the personaloties of split Hakuno:

Mind- Personality formed by experience. Passion. Active. Has normal morality and sense of justice.

Soul- Personality unchanged by experience. Nature. Passive. Has transcendental values and ability to make decisions.

Body- Personality as a vessel. Instinct. A new personality formed when the mind and soul left.

>>160423091
I think he wanted a name similar to Anti Spiral or something.

>>160423721
That's because Theseus still doesn't have much of a concept. He might be stronger than Perseus since he is more defined already

>>160423802
Blame Enkidu

>>160422870
>There's emphasis on how Altera leading to the creation of Attila the Hun only worked this way in the Extra world (wording-wise it seems to suggests that Attila exists in some other form in other worlds?)

Oh so not only we not have mooncell in not extra world, but we dont have velber too? maybe with no mooncell the other aliens dont care about earth?

>>160422889
>to further establish her status as human cattle or something
Damn, that seems awesome
>>160422889
> or maybe some people just like seeing girls getting milked
Well, to each their fetisehs, but now that you say it, it feels a bit hot to see that image

>>160423828
I miss Jeb!

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>>160420130

Marie

>>160423257

Shitposters who said Gawain respected Nero BTFO

>>160423558
Only Lancers so far in GO that are stronger are Karna and "lol fucking Rhon" King

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Could she beat Alcides?

>>160423498
The other Servants are Solo Servants that also were summoned by the Moon Cell but without any given mission, just to populate the virtual world. Top Servants were strong Servants that were handpicked by the Moon Cell because it felt there was something wrong with SE.RA.PH.

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>>160423237
please. just ramedit.

>>160423186
Just retarded and ESL, nothing like ours.

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>People still don't believe she wants Shirou's dick

>>160423902
>literal who garbage
>can beat Heracles even while nerfed by a shit Master and no fame boost at all

>servant container
>Alter

>Heracles is indeed stronger than when he's altered
So FSN Cu is stronger than Origin Servants and Saber is stronger than the strongest Servant then? :^)

>as proven by losing a rank in END
>losing a rank
Nice headcanon, and if stats is all that matters then Berserker Heracles is the strongest Heracles.

>>160424094

Kek

Castor BTFO

>>160423983
Bryn, Fionn Scat, Lancer Alter Deermud was confirmed to be so in zero

Everything I hear about Extella makes it seem worse

Remider Berserker Herk has 300+ STR

>>160424250
Can't be that bad, anon. It's not like it's Dragon Ball Super or Yu-Gi-Oh Arc-V, which crush the expectation of and cuck the viewers

>>160424252
He has 50 and 100 for a moment. Faggot couldn't even overwhelm a B STR.

>>160423254
>>160423127
Artoria is even called a top class Servant in GO Material so the point is moot. There doesn't seem to be any actual difference between top class Servants and the top Servants the Moon Cell chooses to defend itself, as it's drawing from the best it has archived. There are probably many more though, and that doesn't seem all of them are in the same level.

Giant Altera's bed is the roof a temple she once conquered and thought looked comfy.
There are of course secrets under her bed.
They wanted to make a dungeon inside the temple but ran out of funds.

Sephar was 16 meters when first appearing on Earth.

The war god is described as "that which would later become the concept of war gods". Her victory over him is the source of the Greek legend of Athena defeating Mars.

She didn't kill the gods but drove them back (撤退させた = made them retreat).

>>160423498
Still mooncell.

>>160423580
Not in the material.

>>160424149
>can beat Heracles
>never actually happens
wow

>Alter
>Wasn't even the reason for her being called the strongest, it was having infinite prana from Sakura
Man it sure would've been good if you read HF wouldn't it

>Berserker Heracles is the strongest Heracles
They all have the same stats but Berserker can't use any NP or anything. Use your brain.

>>160424396
>Giant Altera's bed is the roof a temple she once conquered and thought looked comfy.
Cute.

>>160424396
>There are of course secrets under her bed.
What kind of porn do you think she keeps there?

>>160424242
>Bryn
Hilariously situational spear. Didn't hold up very well against servants proficient in close combat.

>Fionn
If there's more to him we haven't seen maybe, but his showings as a unit and in America are a huge fucking letdown, he's not even close. He SHOULD be stronger though I'll grant you that

>Lancer Alter
Covered under "lol Rhon"

>Diarmuid
False. Nasu stated in that instance Cu is the stronger servant, and Diarmuid appeared stronger because he had a superior master and wasn't under any orders to restrain himself.

>>160424462
To be fair Fionn is even said to be really strong great hero with many NPs and skills in his profile, it's just they are only using him to bully Diarmuid.

>>160424242
>>160424462
I forgot to mention Scat but she said herself Cu's still the better spearman, she just has 2000 years and hax primal runes on her side. Raw firepower though you're right, she's technically stronger.

>>160424378
>top class
Probably 最高クラス or 最高級or something which is just a description. Pretty sure that Top Servant = トップサーヴァント is new to Extella.

>>160423970
He only respects Hakuno and actually openly disrespects Nero from the very beginning of the game.

>>160424250

It's actually doing pretty good in Japan

>>160424462
Bryn's spear is only one third of what she can actually do, and it's not as situational as you might think it is

>>160424562
Of course it is, it has Seibah in it

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>>160424560
How can a knight be so based?

>>160423254
>Karna still only got the A++ VS

>>160424396
>There are of course secrets under her bed.
Considering is a 14000 years old (?) temple, i would be dissapointed if it didnt have some super secrets
Using a building as a bed is cute as fuck though

>>160424560
Nerocucks btfo

>>160424560

Based Gawain!

I knew he wouldn't bow to such a slut! Whore of Babylon memes are still relevant!

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>dat florence
Hhhgnnn

>>160424396
>Her victory over him is the source of the Greek legend of Athena defeating Mars.
Alteraface Athena when?

>>160424378
>There doesn't seem to be any actual difference between top class Servants and the top Servants the Moon Cell chooses to defend itsel
>Jeanne and Iskander
Yeah there is a whole lot of difference. Top Class Servant and Top Servant are 2 different concepts.

>>160424560
>Probably 最高クラス or 最高級or something which is just a description. Pretty sure that Top Servant = トップサーヴァント is new to Extella.
Since Apocrypha we have been getting that トップクラスサーヴァント thing to describe people like Karna. In America they also used it and then GO Mat uses it in Artoria.

>>160424560

>actually openly disrespects Nero from the very beginning of the game.

SHITPOSTERS BTFO

BTFO
T
F
O

>>160424720
>A literal sketch looks better than the game art
Why is this allowed.

>>160424086
where to download that game?

>>160424737
Jeanne is definitely top class as a Ruler though. She can use Command Spells on other Servants and has a EX rank NP even it it's a suicide one.

>>160424737
The point is that Moon Cell is using really strong Servants to defend itself. That's the whole logic behind Top Servants in the first place.

The entry 宙の涙 again states that Velber dropped three ships. Altera's landed on the moon, it's unknown where the other two landed.

Tamamo figured out everything while Hakuno was still asleep and just pretends not to know. She knew Archimedes was the mastermind the moment she saw him too.

Giant Altera's Familiar Creation EX skill is used to make her avatars, not actual familiars.

>>160424856
All Rulers are top class by virtue of being Ruler

>>160424396
Fuck. Is it in the game at all? If he's resummoned, he really should have it.

>>160424409
>never happens neme
Word of God still said it could happen. And FSN Cu is weaker than Deermud.

>changing goalposts
Alters no longer have the container meme holding them back.

>They all have the same stats
Herckek has ME so he has better stats, meaning he is the strongest according to you. Alcides has 13 NPs that regular Heracles doesn't, he is much stronger. Even if he had the Pelt and EX (he doesn't) as you like to meme, he is still much weaker than Alcides who can match EA with Goddess of War and has 9 NPs left to show. And if the EX is from Heracles, it's weaker than Nine Lives.

The stuff that the Nemean Pelt can't block are strong enough to take all of GH lives, he needs Goddess of War to be a threat.

I know I used to believe big breasts are the best, but that pirate slut actually has breasts that I consider too big.

>>160424560
yo can you tell us more bout what tamamo is like to the other servants?

>have to do the 10 AP 14 times in a row before I can go to sleep
End me

>>160425098
>And FSN Cu is weaker than Deermud.
Has less mana to draw on because of his weaker master*

Not that it matters much when his NP is unique for requiring almost no mana

>>160424638
>Not even the Moon Cell gives him enough mana to not be nerfed

>>160425102
Don't bully Blackbeard.

>>160424856
>Jeanne is definitely top class as a Ruler
She is stayed to be weaker than Siegfried, Achilles and Karna. She couldn't even CS before Karna could activate BK

>people speculating power levels based on scraps of information someone is kindly providing
So cute

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>>160425102
What are you? Gay

Giant Altera's mana absorbtion skill converts any mana that has been modified by technology, knowledge or civilization into HP and armour points.

Any form of attack or interference thought up with intelligence only makes Altera stronger.

The strongest magecraft spells and tactical weapons made with technology are just fuel to the flame.

Pure mana like life energy is still absorbed slightly but does have an effect. The best way to defeat an Anticell is by hitting it with physical attacks only.

The only thing really effective is the energy released by a holy sword.

>>160425179
Thats what any idiot gets for summoning a god and thinking you can use him at full power.

Seriously, what was Jinako thinking? A neet summoning Karna is worse than Shirou summoning Saber

>>160425098
>Alcides who can match EA with Goddess of War
Literally never happened, kill yourself shitposter

>>160424937
So how strong is regular Altera? all that hype from Scat and i'm not even sure she's top class Saber.

>>160425076
I recall the tutorial popup for his NP saying his defence drops when he uses it because his armor breaks, but I didn't actually use him.

>>160424462
>Didn't hold up very well against servants proficient in close combat.
She fucking speedblitzed Arthur of all people.

>Nasu stated in that instance Cu is the stronger servant
In Ireland.

>Nasu says Deermuds extra firepower brings him up to Cu's level
>Deermud has nothing, literally nothing, to defend himself against gay bulge
>meanwhile Cu doesn't wear magic armour and has BC for unhealable wounds
How are they in any way on the same level? It doesn't matter what boost Deermud is getting from his master, unless that boost is 4 ranks in luck or magic resistance he can't win.

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>>160425240
Ok, in that image they are fine. But it's because in pic related they seem too big. Must be the corset.

>>160425358
My guess? Deermud doesn't fight like a retarded dog

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>>160420130
Medea.

>>160425364
Shit artist.

>>160425248
>Any form of attack or interference thought up with intelligence only makes Altera stronger.
So Kiara is still stronger than Altera?

>>160425358
Because Nasu is a filthy hack who panders to the group that's relevant at the moment.
The Deermud statement came when Zero came out.
Why are you surprised by this

I once read that Saber Alter was actually a thing that happened to Arturia when she was a live and Morgana put a spell on her, though I can't find it anymore in the wikia.

Was that true or was that just some random fanfic writer that was messing up with the wikia?

>>160425103
She's horrible to almost everyone (and especially Liz) except Hakuno because in Extella she knows about Velber and her only goal is to stay with Hakuno until they die, fuck everything else. That's why she doesn't say anything even though she knows everything. She's relatively okay to the people on her side aside from Liz though.

>>160425326
Fuck it, I'll see what happens when the game is translated. I'll be disappointed if they decide to ignore it completely.

>>160425461
Random fanfic writer.

>>160425461
That's fanfiction

>>160424845
3dsiso

>>160425358
Nasu had to come up with a justifiable reason for why Arturia fought competently against Cu but acted like a complete goddamn retard against Diarmuid and got her shit stomped.

He decided to shift blame from Seibah and say Diarmuid got a huge buff from Kayneth.

>>160425461
Random fanfic.

>>160425197
That just shows how stupid Apo writing is when it comes to fights. It's as if Higashide didn't knew what to do half of the time.

Nasu should just make some kind of statement on Karna's armor differences, shit is so triggering.

>>160425160
Literally stated to be weaker, regardless of the reason. So Heracles can be defeated by someone weaker than Diarmuid.

>>160425267
>HERP NEVER HAPPENED XDDD
Alcides after bringing out Goddess of War told Gilgamesh to bring out EA so they could be equals, and also said that he was going to die for using Merodach instead.

>>160425507
>>160425508
>>160425563
Fuck

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>Amakuso's strengthening quest when?
>Amakuso's NP interlude when?
>Amakuso Alter when?

>>160425583
And Vasavi. And Brahmastra Kundala. They're different too and it triggers the shit out of me.

>>160425601
So Ea wasn't matched by Goddess of War or anything in that battle?
Meaning it never happened?

>>160425468
>She's horrible to almost everyone (and especially Liz)
>She's relatively okay to the people on her side aside from Liz though.
???

>>160425436
>Because Nasu is a filthy hack who panders to the group that's relevant at the moment.

This and Takeuchi does this too.

>Nasu And what about you? Probably Saber, right?
>Takeuchi It's because she's a glimmering star just out of reach that she's beautiful. I couldn't call her my bride. Though for some reason I think Shielder from Grand Order would be the ideal bride.

>>160425570
And let's be honest the fights were the only thing not completely terrible in Apo. On his favor balancing a war with Karna considering how huge the power gap was comparing him to other servants would be hard

>>160425601
>So Heracles can be defeated by someone weaker than Diarmuid
Oh, my apologies. I didn't realize I was talking to a stupid nigger that's trying to dredge up Achilles shitposting nonsense.

Please don't mind me and continue to waste your day doing that.

>>160425543
Why couldn't the excuse be that Saber had learnt from her loss against Diarmuid and became more competent against lance users, since that happened first?

>>160425621
Shit character.

>>160425358
>Deermud was on par with a Saber that is far stronger than FSN Saber
Diarmuid destroys Cu before he can Gae Bolg, that simple.

>>160425713
Don't think too hard about it

>>160425713
Probably because Nasu had forgotten Uro had done something that stupid, and when put on the spot he just made up a reason.

So why do Lancers all have a shit luck rank?

>>160425691
Swap the Riders and it's balanced.

>>160425583
>>160425632
I think as the spear is complete and fucking big now that means the armor is there. The other armor he uses it's probably something he makes with Prana Burst like Saber.

>>160425632
>And Brahmastra Kundala
That's easy, Nasu already said in Extra Material that as he was killed a lot by it in the beta stage of CCC they made that Karna would only be able to use a nerfed version there. In Extella is just a normal move so gameplay reasons.

>>160425713
Cu and Deermud's fighting styles are nothing alike.

The latter's far more tactical and relies on wits more than on brute force and NPs

>>160425621
>Amakusa Alter
>normal Amakusa is an insane maniac who wants to remove humanities free will and who, in life, killed women and children before suicide by combat
He's pretty Alter already

>>160425813
Saber doesn't make her armor out of her Prana Burst and that's the armor he has in CCC as well. Also, I meant the differences in how it works. CCC is fireballs from the sky, Extella is the actual spear hitting the enemies, Apoc makes it create a rain of lasers.

>>160425802
Cu was legitimately unlucky in life and fated for a tragic end.

Uro made a Cu clone for Zero and copied his shit luck, ergo Diarmuid.

Karna was literally conspired against by every Hindu god, which is pretty fucking unlucky

Nameless is a mystery servant who helps Hakuno for reasons that cannot be known to regular people. Unknown who summoned him. Is here to help Hakuno and had no loyalty to Nero personally, but helps her out anyway for good measure. He comes from "a different ending" and thus can tell that Archimedes can't be trusted.

His goal is to avoid the worst ending he saw, and to return to his own place.

The ending he saw took place in the far far future of Extella. Even in this world, he's come from a wrong future.

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>>160425621
just put him in a dress for a holiday and be done with it, it's the only way I'd roll for him.

>>160425802
It became a meme but coincidently enough if you look at lancers most of them had a shitty life overall and have bad stuff happen to them in the wars they are summoned

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>>160424560
Gawain a poop.

>>160425885
Yeah but in CCC he also didn't really had the armor, so the only explanation is that he is creating a magical energy armor like Saber does.

>>160425887
Doesn't Extella retcon it so Karna has A+ rank luck?

>>160425643
EA has never defeated Hassan or killed Shirou so it can't do it. Gilgamesh has never beaten Mata Hari so he can't beat her. Heracles never fought UBW so he can't survive it.

Should I continue to show how stupid your last struggle is?

>>160425708
>DERP I CAN'T ARGUE FACTS GOTTA AD HOMINEM
Yeah thanks for accepting defeat, we all knew you were wrong to begin with.

>>160425956
I still would have preferred if they had went with Amakusa being actually Shirou in the alternate universe. He had the same face, same eyebrows, skin of Archer, was a casanova, wanted to be a hero of justice, etc. It was more of a disappointment than a plot twist his actual identity

>>160425650
She's extra horrible to Liz that much

>>160426008
>inb4 they are actually different karnas and we will soon get CCC version here
Yes I know our Karna mentions something related to Jinako but I don't think that's impossible to happen

>>160425887
>Uro made a Cu clone for Zero and copied his shit luck, ergo Diarmuid.
But they are literally nothing alike.

>>160425364
Is not that they are "too big", is that they are big but gravity doesn't seem to affect them, making them look fake

>>160426084
I didn't mean Liz, I mean to everyone else.

>>160425885
The CCC Brahmastra Kundala is just nerfed and not nuke level.

>>160426047
That's only because he himself felt he's really lucky and Far Side of the Moon just roll with it because the place is wonky as shit.

>>160426067
>So desperate that you try to move goalposts from NP vs NP to NP vs Servant
I can see you're out of arguments, it was nice talking to you

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Is Elizabeth Carmilla Lily or is Carmilla Elizabeth Alter?!

>>160425358
Diarmuid fought toe to toe to Saber without being gimped by prana issues or shit stats. Cu was pushed around by a nerfed Saber.

>>160426047
It's still said it appears like that due to Uncrowned Arms Mastership in the Extella Mat. He just doesn't feel unlucky at all, it even says that as he was born from a god and with more power than normal people he took for granted he had to find more ordeals.

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>>160426097
>Heroic Irish spearman wielding a cursed spear that gives Saber an unhealable wound which causes her trouble in future fights. Is stuck with a shitty villainous master, teams up with Team Saber to take down a common foe, and is forced to kill himself by his own master

>>160425973
So is it actually a part of the class, or is it just a coincidence with most of the summoned Lancers?

>>160426152
Isnt Carmilla a fictional character in Nasuverse too and literally Liz grown up?

>>160424325
>Yu-Gi-Oh Arc-V
I still dont get how they fucked arc-v so hard.

>>160426240
Not literally Liz grown up I meant.

>>160426152
>worst Liz is in three games with four variations and shittons of merch
>best Liz has one CE
t-thanks nasu

>>160426125
EA has never clashed with Arondight so EA can't beat Arondight.
EA can't beat Galatine or Caladbolg either.
Arondight can't beat Bellerophon
Excalibur can't beat Galatine.

All of that because it never happened. Still the same shit son, your """"argument"""" is pathetic.

>>160426196
Cu himself was nerfed, and even after being caught off guard "won" their fight by retreating no worse for wear and leaving Saber with a troublesome wound.

>>160426102
I think its more of an artistical thing like >>160425416 said

>>160426204
Truly best boy.

>>160426103
She is nice with Karna, she thinks that Lu Bu is super loyal and she is wary of Medusa because they are similar and Medusa has super good looks.

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>>160426214
>shitty

>>160426214
>shitty
>villainous

>>160426290
>Ea clashed with Excalibur
>Ea beat Excalibur
>Therefore Ea beats all Excalibur clones
Damn if only you read a little of FSN you could've avoided embarrassing yourself like this

>>160426240
>>160426271
Carmilla is literally just Liz a couple of decades later

Even the "vampire influence" is just her name, the real Liz actually did drink blood and torture people

>>160425867
>wants to remove humanities free will
In his defence, he wanted to save humanity through this, like in SMT
> killed women and children before suicide by combat
I though those were killed by the army they were fighting and then he was executed.
The Alter form would be the Shiro that cursed the world before dying

>>160426067
It never happened ergo there is only speculation. Saying something would happen for a FACT in fiction when it has never happened before is shitposting.

The writer can make shit happen to change the circumstances. For example let's take your beloved Lancelot, Melvin. According to you and what yo have read, Lancelot should've wiped everyone in the 4th war. Yet his only kill is his own master and a human pilot and he lost to Saber. Or in Apo, Karna should've wiped the floor with everyone considering the "power gap" people were talking about. Yet he didn't. Doesn't matter what the background is or speculation, what matters is what happened.

You can take Herc's wor that Gil would die if he didn't pull out Early. But on the same note you can take Archer's word that he could've beat Herc in FSN. Yet he didn't. If something never happened it's pointless to say what would happen.

>>160426291
He didn't win shit,his ultimate killing move failed which was said to be the ultimate humiliation for him.

>>160426240
Other way around. "Carmilla" is an alias in this case.

>>160426214
>shitty villainous master
If by shitty you mean fucking retarded, yes.
Otherwise he was the most powerful mage in the war

>>160426219
Not part of the class just a meme and coincidences. There is nothing stopping a lancer from having good luck. It's just that most lancers who appear in this franchise were unlucky and are choosen to suffer in most wars

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>>160426364
Oh boy here it comes

We get to see him try and explain Arondight somehow being stronger than Excalibur

>>160426368
So Carmilla is 35+?
How old is Uncle Vlad anyway? Like 50?

Shuwen would have joined Tamamo if she asked first. Either way he believes in honour and is loyal to whoever he has agreed to serve.

Robin Hood was forced to join Tamamo's side with the Regalia and she zaps him with lightning whenever he disobeys her, and he's know a yes man. Aims to defeat Tamamo as soon as he gets the chance and to sell the Regalia for cash. Falls in love with Medusa in his side story. -Text found on Nasu's PC

>>160426364
>Therefore Ea beats all Excalibur clones
So Ea hasn't clashed with Arondight/Galatine/Caladbolg or any other swordbeam?
Meaning it never happened?

Damn if only you read a little of SF you could've avoided embarrassing yourself like this and would know Goddess of War can match EA

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>>160426214
>shitty
>villainous

>>160424560
Where are all you nerowank apologist faggots now.
Show yourselves.

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>>160426382
The army killed the women and children who were following Amakusa and killing other unrelated women and children
>SMT morality
Stop

>>160426219
It's just a meme we almost moved on at this point. We already had Lancers who weren't offed unceremouniously by a suicide order and that died fulfilling their missions. The meme is mostly dead.

>>160426491
This post literally makes no sense considering the argument.
You have lost it completely I see

>>160426454
>she zaps him with lightning whenever he disobeys her
She does that to every single of her followers, doesn't she?
>Even Robin got tired of her shit
What a bitch

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>>160420130
I want to hold pinkies with my waifu!

>>160426491
Holy shit Melvin, please end yourself. I honestly cannot even comprehend the meaningless string of words you just slathered on my screen. What the fuck does that nonsense even mean?

>>160426267
It's pretty simple, anon. You make this great start and build up expectations of everyone. Then, when it gets to one of the future arcs, they stop caring for any writing, character developement or logic they had before, kind of how Nasu does to some servants and powers, but 10x worse.

Then, they kind of made a point for evey and anything that follows after to be disappointment. This battle? Let's interrupt it. This guy was smart? Let's make him become a naiive idiot that thinks he is smart. Guy everyone likes? Make him a jobber. Legacy characters were used well? Let's shit all over their personalities and make them lose all their important battles like noobs.

And on and on.

It's kind of the whole think Guilles said in Fate/Zero: it isn't constant; disappointment is dynamic. You have to build up the highest expectations and crush them hard.

>>160424325
>>160426267
What? I was about to start Arc-V because I heard it was pretty great a while back.

>>160426491
What does Goddes of War even do for it to clash with Ea?

>>160426453
She might be north of 40, actually.

>>160426415
Ah, neat. Found a historical figure that could fit Lancer class that had really good luck, and I thought I should ask. Thanks.

>>160426546
>SMT morality
I only used it as an example dude

>>160426454
I never thought I would be glad Robin Hood was cut

>>160426573
>She does that to every single of her followers, doesn't she?
I think she was only shown doing that to Liz. Liz was literally the buttmonkey of her faction. Even after going Void she is still one.

>>160426491
Whether Melvin resorts to parroting, you know that's when he has lost and having a meltdown.

>>160425643
This post literally makes no sense considering the argument.
You have lost it completely I see.

>>160426454
>she zaps him
Kek tamamo a bitch

>>160426607
It doesn't. We never even see it happen. Alcides boasts, Gil doesn't buy it, then Hyppolyta crashes the party before we see it play out.

>>160426672
fucking kek
>>160426681

Huh, just checked the GO Material and it DOES have トップサーヴァントin Artoria's profile, though referring to Scatchach and not her in this case (トップサーヴァントであるスカサハ同様、後人の成長を見守る立場)

>>160426573
It only ever happens to Liz in the game.

>>160426454
>she zaps him with lightning whenever he disobeys her

Tamamo and Nero were two fucking mistakes.

Can you play as Void Liz in Extella? What about Nero Venus?

>>160426453
Carmilla could be anywhere from I guess mid twenties to 50, when she was arrested

She's probably summoned in her thirties though

>>160426672
>>160426681
Exhibit A

>>160423910
Sounds like Ego, Super Ego and Id.

>>160426736
What, that トップサーヴァント it's on her description, check better.

>tfw was tempted to spend quartz and even whale for Jack but the 7 resets limit hold me from it
Thanks for letting me grow gacha resistance, DW.

>>160426736
Why is Tamamo such a bitch to Liz?

>>160426736
>referring to Scathach
Oh boy, just what this shitshow needed.

>>160426454
>Falls in love with Medusa in his side story.
The fuck is this bullshit?

>>160426607
Ask Alcides, how the fuck would I know.

>>160426672
Whether Gilfag resorts to complaining about parroting, you know that's when he has lost and having a meltdown.

It shows he never had an argument to begin with, to the point that when confronted with his own """argument""" he pretends he won by not being able to counter itm

>>160426691
So he just says Gil would need Ea to not be destroyed and people just assumed a piece of cloth would shoot beams and clash with Ea?

>>160426863
Jealousy.

>>160426863
Liz is fucking trash, even bad characters recognise it

>>160426605
It was. It actually could be qualified as still a great series still.

Thing of Arc-V is that it was really great in the first 50 episodes. It doesn't have the best start, but it really gets better and better. Then, 51~100 the quality falls off a bit, gets fillered and milked, since in the end it's a mean to promote the card game, but it was still good even with those flaws and manages to bring up a great climax at the end of the arc.
And then, 101 to now (131), it regresses HARD. It isn't that bad at the start of these last few episodes, nothing noticeable, but as they pass on you start to go through disappointment after disappointment and this >>160426590 happens over and over

>>160426736
Top Servant or Top Class Servant? I think there is both on her GO Mat, one talking about Artoria and the other about Scat.

>>160426903
Not "people". Melvin. But yes that's the gist of the situation

>>160426762
And Rad Vlad?

>>160426605
It started off well and then just kept going downwards. It's taken 9 of 10 of the lowest ranking episodes ever on nico, with two being even lower than a black screen with only sound.

>>160426903
>people
only 1 shitposter

>>160426891
Well you were saying they would clash I thought you had some information on why would there be a clash

>>160426291
>Cu himself was nerfed,
You're retarded. Go and actually look up what Kotomine did.

>even after being caught off guard "won" their fight by retreating

He ran away because he was outperformed by Saber since the beginning and his NP didn't work. Since the beginning Saber pushed his shit while she was on equal footing with Diarmuid in terms of technique. Diarmuid's technique is better than Cu's. Period.

>>160426691
>We never even see it happen.
Reminder we never saw EA beat Arondight so that means EA can't beat Arondight.

>>160426736
why is Scat even mentioned in Saber's profile

>>160426891
What a surprise. Melvin doesn't even know what he is arguing.

>More parroting
You can't make this shit up. Mental age literally 12. As expected as someone who like Dragonball and capeshit.

>>160426863
Because Liz is a genuinely deplorable person.

>>160427040
No it means we don't know how it would happen since that's completely up to what the writer needs to happen and not something decided by autists on the internet