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S U C C edition

Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game.
The Steam version launched on October 28th.

Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (embed) (embed) (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh

Friend list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DKn9RybTNTQ3a8cm-68KvDOHCFBRK8VDD2JVO8HTUWg/edit?usp=sharing
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Some anon made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor for the lazy or mentally handicapped. Open wide and enjoy responsibly:

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ

Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:

https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:

http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:

http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

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>>160274238
I want to fuck ____
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>>160274238
>>160274348
spitroasted by hung Luna and Vania!
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>>160274416
You're still my favorite anon.
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>>160273976
>There is one deck that's really different than the shit you can do in other games like HS
>not naturally gravitating towards it
Do you hate fun?
Or maybe you are new to card games?
Playing pseudo storm in a game like this is hilarious.
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Why do you guys remove the hearthston /hsg/ randomly write in the OP? the hsshitters won't miss post here anymoere
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Which of these two is better in your opinion /svg/?

https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/rage-group-1st-place-elana-seraph-hybrid-havencraft
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/rage-group-2nd-place-elana-seraph-hybrid

I'm personally tending towards the second one. Or if you think you have a better list than either please post it!
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Erika is a bian!
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>>160274581
the second one looks better desu

But you always can modify you own decks
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>>160274557
Because >>160274238 is a retarded faggot from /hsg/
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Xth for wanting more 1, 4, and 6 drops.

>>160274513
Forestcraft is closer to Storm than Runecraft is.

>>160274348
Thicc Necromancer
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I want to tickle Erica's balls.
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>Finally pull off Atomeme
>Dance of Death'd
Fuck this game sometimes
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>>160274557
it ruins my color-coded threads so good riddance
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>>160274918
sauce
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>>160274826
I ran into that problem sometimes but I solved it pretty efficiently by just taking Atomy out of my deck and liquefying it.
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>>160274117
I still need that concede, fampais.
91307
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>>160274950
https://exhentai.org/g/901214/f129d0ef8f/
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>>160274826
Turn 4 Atomy when going first is the dream, turn 3 when going second, turn 5 means DoD is live.
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>>160274739
The mechanic itself is closer, but what the gameplan itself isn't.
Forest does small combos to gain board control or do face damage to finish the game.
Dshift tries to set up an OTK.
I agree that the deck would be more fun if you could properly interact with your opponent's spells.
But you have to thank the retards who think instants are bad game design for that.
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Left or right?
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>>160275167
easy right
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>>160275167
It's obviously left.
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>>160275167
Middle maybe
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>>160274826
>Playing cards that don't immediately generate value upon ETB or death
Did Thragtusk and the Sinister Six teach you nothing?

>>160275150
I think it's less that people think instants are bad game design and more of a desire to streamline gameplay, especially since it's a mobile game.
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>>160275167
right I suppose cause removals are nice in arena
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>>160274826
>Pull off Atomeme
>other guy doesn't have shit to deal with him
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>>160275424
>>160275252
Thanks, right then
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>>160275350
There are mobile CCGs that use instants and they work fine.
The reason they don't have instants is because some people feel like their turn is their turn and the opponent shouldn't be able to interfere with what they do.
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>>160275029
Thank you!
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>40% win rate

What went wrong?
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Can someone give me a decklist for ensuring havenfags lose? I don't care if it has 0% winrate against everything else, just give me a haven killing deck.
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>>160275597
Not that guy, but when I'm playing a mobile game, I'd rather not have to pay attention during the opponent's turn.
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>>160275706
dshift is the only deck that really fucks over heal seraph but it loses to storm
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>>160275706
This, since 4 out of 5 people are Havenfags anyway
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>>160275675
Consistency, quality, player skill, meta.
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i need a concede

52988
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>>160274826
>pull off Atomeme
>dance of death'd
>lel ceridwen
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>>160274348
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>>160275597
for removing player interaction, thats one of the stupidest reasoning i heard so far...
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>>160275706
A skilled PTP elf can beat anything
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>>160275985
(You)
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Is Atomeme worth keeping?
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>>160274826
Drop him on turn 2 next time.
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>>160275727
>I want my game to be so boring that I don't have to pay attention
You are the cancer killing good games.
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>>160275857
thank you comrade
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>>160276175
Not really no. A zero PP 8/8 that blows up your entire board is pretty shit desu. It's okay if you destroy ghosts or something but that's so situational that you'd rather have anything else 90% of the time because your big cards get removed by effects anyway.
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is there any reason to play T2 since they're giving out DE packs? The whole set seems shittier than standard
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>>160276243
Good thing this is a primarily shitty mobile game and not a good game.
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>>160276331
T2 gives standard m8
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>>160276331
Arena gives you Standard tickets.
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>>160276380
>>160276396
https://twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/798436366400925696
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>>160276380
>>160276396
Not for long
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>>160276175
Yes, he currently sees ladder play in many decklists and even if he didn't, he's a prime card to become a 3 of in a future expansion.
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>>160276437
>>160276447
Oh wow, that's pure shit.

Guess I'm not playing Arena for two weeks then.
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>>160275597
I have never heard anyone say that before. I wouldn't be surprised if the Blizzard idiots did but most folks just don't want to be promped about instants every two seconds.
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>fail critical trial
>can immediately try again

sometimes I forget this is a casual mobile jap game
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xth for rope every haven player
They have fun watching paint dry you are doing them a favor
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Holy fuck it sucks to play Dragon. Although my enemies suck, an f2p can't beat a whale
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>>160275597
Wait, which games? I want to try these.
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30 seconds turn now
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>>160275706
>>160275779
>>160276652
>newfags still this booty blasted
kek git gud
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>>160276676
Nope, Bannermeme is the cheapest meta deck in the game and you can beat anything with it while not even having a single lego in your deck.
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>>160276863
Eternal uses instants.
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>>160276989
How did you look away from the paint enough to type this I don't believe you
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>>160276652
>bawwww some people want to have actual decisions in their game instead of just vomiting your hand on the table and hitting face
kys
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>>160277081
game isnt even out yet...
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>>160277224
bad bait
needs work
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>>160277224
Yeah that's why they don't play haven anon
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10 dmg on face from nowhere is so satisfying.
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Why the fuck do people use perfect meta decks in unranked? I just want my daily
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Noob here, what can and should you spend rupies on?
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>>160277224
>just vomiting your hand on the table and hitting face
Literally Haven.
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>tfw you're still learning to play and you got perfect arena
Maybe it's not the big deal but I got no early game and I got matched against experienced people
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>900 ranked point to reach AA1
>start playing runecraft
>2000 ranked points to reach AA1 now

You guys told me spellrunecraft was a tier 1 deck, I spend 7k vial on Merlins, it's not fair!
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>>160277270
you can sign up for the beta
I did recently and got in within 2 days but they might be slowing down since open should be starting soon
then everyone can know the balance of darude titan and his bottom bitch Siraf
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>>160277458
>try to vomit with haven
>seraph is banish
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>>160277461
What's that thing playful necromancer says when she dies again?
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>>160277565
>play seraph again
>doesn't get banished
>win next turn
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Playing Storm Haven for dailies again.
I hate this deck so much.
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>>160277821
>>160277649
Do you guys are really shitters or just baiting?
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>>160277558
I played this game until the meta stabilized around party hour/darude+siraf/rakano pants.
That's pretty much the best mobile CCG around but it sorely needs more cards.
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>>160277502
People have said multiple times that Rune is a bad ladder deck
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DoraForte
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>tfw
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>>160277502
I'm at AA1 and skyrocketting since i get a lot of easy matchs.

just git gud m8 i don't even have 2 merlins
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>>160278265
My every pack in last week
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What is the very cheapest deck to build?
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>>160278419
You can make Banner Aggro for 3~6k vials.
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>>160278265
Navy liutenant is top kek

>>160278419
Banner meme
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>>160277939
>Do you guys are really
havenshitter English everyone
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>>160278623
>falling for obvious bait
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Woah I just won a take two game going first using zero evolves while the enemy used all three. Get rekt.
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>>160278419
>>160278535
So banner meme it is. Any good (recent) decklist?
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>>160278656
>I- I was just p-pretending! G-got you!
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>>160278674
>not using your evolves
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>>160278623
obviously he hit D instead of S and you should be competent enough to figure that out (you aren't)
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How do you feel when you see someone with this Flair?
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>>160278683
I have this one here
You can trade alwida for Avant blader to get more coal for the banner machine
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>>160278265
>bought the 6 euro deal
>been doing the 50 deal every day on darkness evolved since arena gets me standard only
>literally every pack is repeats
Bloody hell
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>tfw facing a forest deck who just skips turn 3
>doesn't remove my board with evolve when has the opportunity
>dies with spare evolves
>inbefore he posts here and complains about haven
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>pick T2 Shadow for the first time
>immediately get confronted with memes

What now?
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>tfw you hit someone with the turn 5 Tia in take two and then follow it up with Cynthia
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Playing Elana Heaven is so much fun but I have troubles dealing with aggro decks before I can play my Elana.

Any tipps?
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>>160279076
Beelzebub is great enough to compensate for the shitty Gold card it's with. Pick right.
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>tfw facing a havenshit
>despite playing Forest don't draw any plays on turn 3
>don't want to evolve because I need the value and he'll just trade in for whatever I evolve anyway
>inbefore he posts here and cries about forest
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>>160279076
I'd go right.
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>>160279186
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM I CANT BEAT HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM
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>>160278943
thanks anon
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>>160279186
Elana is bad against aggro except Sprint Haven, you want to just try and control the board and heal as much as you can. Don't even worry about Elana until you've stabilized
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>>160279186
Be careful against this type of shitter >>160279247 they think that going second is 100% win and cudge is the best card of the game
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So someone actually uses this leader. In Arena, no less.
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Is Arena's matchmaking based on number of wins?

I've heard people say no but the number of times at 4-0 I get matched against completely easymode 5-0 drafts seems to suggest otherwise.
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>>160279198
>>160279243
Thanks m8s.

Wish me luck.
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>>160279247
Well that was helpful.

>>160279325
Thanks, so i guess I should pick some of the boardclears? Themis 3x? Or just the ban all < 3 def followers?

>>160279363
It does feel like playing second helps a little bit. The extra evolution point is so good.
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bets?
Do you think this is constructed in arena?
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>Intern posts another random, weird comparison on Twitter
>The responses are near-ero Vampy pictures and someone talking about how they want to fuck her
I'm not quite sure that's even the intended response, and probably something as a business you wouldn't want people to see.
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>>160279325
Sprint Haven is a midrange deck, not aggro.
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>>160274238
>tfw just won against a very good AA shadowcraft player in an incredible match with my blood memedeck

>tfw you have one of those matches that make you wish you bothered to record matches

In the incredibly unlikely event you're somewhere around here, great fucking match. That Mordecai should have fucking killed my ass.
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>>160279675
I'd argue this one's actually a pretty decent discussion point since it's basically asking if you prefer Aggro or Control Blood. It's better than the random as fuck Isabelle vs Forte at least.
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>forest/haven/rune in draft
>let's pick forest, how bad could it be
>if you played 2 other cards everywhere
>only 2 fairy generators
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>>160279705
It's still an aggro deck despite being a bit slower and fatter because the game plan is damage racing.
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Can I get a concede please?

58695
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What are some good decks to climb ranks in A/AA that isn't Haven? Something that shits on Haven would be nice.
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>>160275675
no wincon that doesnt require already having a board
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>>160279906
Dshift shits on haven.
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>>160278943
What's that 6 drop?
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>>160279675
>and probably something as a business you wouldn't want people to see.

Not if your business revolves around selling sexy anime waifu shit to those sort of people.

You really think they have soccer moms and priests as potential customers?
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>>160279969
Alwida's commander
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>>160279796
it's not an aggro deck when they pass turns 1-3 doing nothing

the power turns are from 4-6 during midgame. That's a midrange deck.
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>>160279672
Jee Anon, I dunno. If only there was some amazing clue in the background.
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>>160279230
>have a greedy as fuck deck
>play greedy as fuck
>get punished
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>>160280009
No, but I'm still pretty sure that a business owner wouldn't want the first thing you see as a reply to their tweet a picture of Vampy with her chest nearly hanging out.

I mean, I appreciated it, sure, but there are certainly potential card game players that see the game as sexualized anime art and avoid it.
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>all the havenshits in A rank caused bannermemes to come back in full swing
Holy shit it's been nothing but Erikas today.
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>>160276243
I play MTG and a few other TCGs, and I love interaction. I just don't really want it in mobile games due to personal preference.
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>>160280286
>but there are certainly potential card game players that see the game as sexualized anime art and avoid it.

And those people won't waste money on Vampy avatar. Rather than trying to cater to everyone, the trick to a successful business is knowing how to focus on your niche.
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>>160277424
>bannermeme
>running a commander
>not even a good one
kek
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>>160280286
>>160280493
Besides if they didn't want people to see their game as sexualized anime art, they wouldn't have made like half of the cards.

They clearly knew their priorities considering female characters and male/monster characters have completely different art styles.
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>>160280390
Well I just want a good CCG you can play online.
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Oh baby
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>>160279867
thanks and gg
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>>160280515
running dark general in banner is the new jap meme

that guy's running an assassin for some reason tho
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>>160280649
XMage
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>Wake up
>Check missions
>See this

What do?
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>>160280493
I don't agree, I think there's a decent number of people out there who just straight up avoid something with anime art. And I would think the response to that would be to push the cards that have a more MTG feel and to focus on the gameplay. But that's true, I guess, maybe if the fanbase is big enough in Japan they can just focus on all the western anime fans and still be happy with that.
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>>160279675
The guy who said he wants to fuck her is almost certainly in this very thread.
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>>160280713
It doesn't have the first C in CCG.
Neither does devpro/dueling network.
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>>160280515
You need to see the ambush meme in a aggro meta
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>>160280754
Yeah, someone posted this picture in response too, I'm assuming that was an /svg/er >>160272645
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>>160278850
Not sure why you expected me to be competent at deciphering your retardese.
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>>160280721
Win 1 Match as Forestcraft
Win 1 Match as Shadowcraft
Win 1 Match as Havencraft

Thank me later.
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>>160281154
Fuck havencraft. Now what?
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>>160281052
>obviously he hit D (HE)
It wasn't even my post, nice reading comprehension you're an even bigger dumbass than him since he does typos and you just flat out can't read
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>>160280029
Deck typing is a matter of gameplan, not when they go off or you'd have a million confusing cases about whether Shadow Aggro counts as aggro and shit.

Midrange decks grind, Aggro decks damage race.
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>>160281257
No I noticed you were pretending to be a different person, but I decided not to acknowledge it since you already got caught pretending to pretend to be retarded.
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>>160281373
Isnt it control that aims to grind the enemy out? If they arent combo that is
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man all this sandbagging back to 0 rank
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>>160281416
Yeah whatever you say, learn how to read kiddo
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I feel bad for beating a fellow Jannubro. He cleared the board of the 3 leftover Otomeme guards with her so it was a alright play, I guess.
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>Just easily went 5-0 with Forest
I didn't get a screencap but god damn, Forest feels degenerate as fuck in arena when you get the right cards. I had Tia, 2 Elven Princess Mages, Cynthia, Nature's Guidance, and a bunch of the strong early game like Water Fairy, May, and Whisperer. Sadly I never got to bounce Tia and play her again since I never needed to.
Fairy Princess is also great in arena, especially when you have great synergy like Petal Fencer and Tia.
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Built my first ever deck a few days ago. I don't Liquidate shit and I only started recently so my lego options are limited.
That said in the future once I get more options what should I change?
Posting from a piece of shit that won't let me combine the pictures of my deck so
1/2
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>be bannermemes
>get matched with some Haven trying to beat the A trials
>pull some storm followers out of my ass and win
>spams well done before I finish him
I have done the world a great service
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>>160281727
Sometimes I see people in trials and then just comment to myself

"I know you are in trials but I got dailies and score rewards to win"
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>>160280658
STRENGTH AND BEAUTY TOGETHER!
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>>160281586
I can play that game too if you want
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>>160281721
2/2
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>>160281821
Three can play the same game
>>160281876
>>160281721
Want to make a 'control' or aggro deck?
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>>160281571

set up the script before you get brain cancer you retardo
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anybody play on android?
i didn't get my google play games achievement for level 40 shadowcraft, is this a known issue?
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>>160281821
Haha you actually ARE retarded aren't you? there wouldn't be enough room to edit out the yous from his original post because of 4chanX
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>>160281528
Control is defined by answers. You're a control deck if your win con is that you stop the opponent's gameplan then find a way to finish. You shouldn't care about card advantage except to reload, and trading 1 for 1 or 2 for 1 is common.

The difference between a midrange deck and a control deck is that a midrange deck always wants to be at advantage. A control deck wins if they hit their wincon and protect it, a midrange deck wins because everything is a wincon and the opponent runs out of cards.
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>>160281876
RIght now you kind of have a weird mix of aggro blood and control blood, I'd focus on one path or the other.
Also vengeance is pretty bad so I'd take out cards like Abyss Beast and Frenzied Juggernaut. You should add Wardrobe Raiders and Demonic Storms instead of the mediocre vengeance cards Revelation is great though, keep that if you want to play more control.
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>>160281998
plz give
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>>160281998
What version do you use?
How you use that?
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>playing against shadowcraft, pretty normal game
>suddenly this happens
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>>160282050
I can't keep track of which of your personalities I'm talking to anymore so I'll just stop responding.
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DORK
R
A
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>i main shadow
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>>160281373
Midrange does a bit of both senpai. They win through high value dudes that can dominate the board while applying pressure to the enemy.
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>>160282160
N-NANI?
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>Sandbaggers
Pathetic
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>>160282160
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>>160282170
The dorkiest.
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>>160282160
>kill atomeme with ruthless assasin evol
>he brings it back
absolute madman
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>>160282294
Shame
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>>160281951
I was aiming for a balanced deck with options between early aggro with bats and ending with bloody mary shennanigans with a few bait options for vengeance.

Haven't tried ranked yet but it's been very successful in unranked regardless of opponent class.
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Will I ever escape the A hell?
I'm 500 points away from A2, and I just wanna go back to playing fun decks.
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>>160279618
Not too bad for my first draft of the class.

Third one was just a genuinely really good Dragon draft (curved Neptune into some fatties into Emissary'd Genesis Dragon to finish me off), but I got completely fucking memed on by Leonidas + Arthurian Light in the first loss.
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>>160280880
post list
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>>160282342
Sick memes.
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>>160282398
I have almost the same idea my 'control' deck is something like this.

desu you just need to remove the bad cards like blood rage,vampire bard,abyss beast,sweefant vampire and shield angel.
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>>160280029
It's aggro because they use storm minions and main focus is going face as hard as possible.

It's like saying face dragon isn't an aggro deck because it doesn't drop its power minion until turn 5+

Mid-range is about value and trading, often plays minions on-curve. Grind your opponent out like it's an arena match.

Control is just holding your opponent off until you get your win condition met. Which means most combo decks are some type of control deck.
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>>160282050
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so I've been waiting for like 10 minutes, how long does this take
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>>160282514
My deck is something like this.
If you have more rogue creed remove alexander and latham they just are not needed.
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>>160281998
Plz Give
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>>160282742
until one of you gives up
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I wonder what she does with these shotas.
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>>160282642
That's not entirely true.
Control decks don't need a wincon. Control decks can just be full of answers and completely grind out your opponent as their wincon. The difference between that and Midrange is that Midrange looks to grind out aggro decks and rush down control decks, hence the name. Meanwhile grindy control decks just want to grind the fuck out of everyone. A midrange deck will not be able to out-grind a control deck.
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>>160282831
what the fuck really
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Nobody expects the Hump
NOBODY
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>>160282597
I do plan on removing most of them, but shield angel has been fantastic for tricking rushers into taking trades and setting up a butcher wipe. I've rused AAs on several occasions with that, though whether it's smart or so stupid as to not be predictable I'm not sure.
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>>160282342
What the hell amulet is that.
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>>160282832
They look tired of her shit.
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>>160282914
Humpty clears are the best clears.

Especially when it's arena and the sword fag just flooded the board with minions. Always gets an emote out of people.
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Just started, need a cheap forestcraft deck.
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>>160283112
Ghoul's banquet. 1pp whenever you use necromancy, summon a ghost. It's pretty shitty but if you're Atomemeing it's good to get him out early.
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>>160282835
Every control deck needs a wincon anon. Not every wincon is an instant combo finish, but every control deck answers the opponent and deploys a wincon. There isn't an example of a control deck between here, Magic and Yugioh that wins by grinding value.

Midrange decks don't play rushdown against control, midrange decks win by deploying threats enough that the control deck can't answer them.
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@160283185

this bait never fails to get (you)s
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>>160283185
wrong deck
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Am I supposed to keep vampiric fortress?
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>>160282914
I always expect le golden faise man in arena.
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>>160280880
>Get Rogue's Creed and Shadowed Assassin in Take 2
>Doesn't push enough threats to bring two of the minions back out of stealth for 3 turns
I can see it being silly in a consistent deck.
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>Deal 40 damage to an Elana deck
>Lose
Goddamnit.
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>>160283185
Unless you want to drop 5k vials on PtP and Altered Fate you're not gonna make anything good. Forestcraft is super dependent on Tia and Ancient Elf. If you wanna play Forest I'd suggest rerolling until you get at least 3 of those.
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>>160283185
>cheap
>forest

those 2 words shouldn't be put together
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>>160283320
Well fuck. Need cheap something deck.
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>>160283308
>get elana to 1hp
>he heals it all back over the next turns
REEEEEE
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Dead Space anyone?
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Vampy mirrors are the best, I don't even care that the outcome is decided by a diceroll. It always turns into a cute emotefest.
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>>160283385
Banner aggro is an extremely cheap Swordcraft deck you can make for 3~5k vials.

https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck-archetype/royal-banner-swordcraft
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>>160283385
this is good enough to beat people at low levels
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>>160283213
Midrange decks are midrange decks because they're offensive against slower decks and defensive against aggressive decks. They do 100% play rushdown against control because they aren't going to win the late-game battle against a deck designed around winning in the late game. I should note by rushdown I don't mean ignore everything and go face, I mean they take position as the aggressor in the match-up.
Meanwhile, some control decks do win buy grinding opponents out. That's their wincon; insurmountable value in the late game and enough answers to get there consistently. It's the difference between your BW control and your control-combo deck.
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>>160283481
>>160283475

Okay I'll take a look at these. I won my first 9 rankeds in a row with my own cheap forestcraft deck tho c:
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>>160283385
Bannermemes, aggro blood, aggro shadow
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>>160283523
The more i read about midrange it turns less clear for me .
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I'm sorry /svg/, I joined the Elena Seraph-users

but I got Luna to level 100 first
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>>160283668
same

except I played storm before
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>>160283437
>Cursed Commander
>cursed to always get killed next turn
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>>160283668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHbpWb3ZNGY
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>>160283668
Nothin is better than freeing people from their suffering.
Full-on Seraph is the only way to play, fuck that hybrid shit
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>queue into the Forest mirror
>win because I bounced Tia up and down more and got her off better than the other guy
You can't defeat our love
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just bought 1200 crystals thinking the daily deal lasted for more than 1 pack WTF FUCK MEEEE
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>>160283942

haha fucking KEK
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>>160283979
It resets every day
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>>160283979
Are you retarded
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>>160283979
It's a daily deal, you get it every day. Every day you can buy one pack for 50.
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>>160283979
hope you enjoy spending that over 24 days anon!
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>>160283437
More like Guts.
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>>160283979
I was going to make some joke about mobages taking advantage of the mentally disabled but that's insulting to retards. You're just fucking stupid.
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>>160283979
Average Haven player everyone.
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Can someone help me out with a concede?
85114
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Nothing scary with allies by your side
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>>160283979
>Daily deal
>As in Once a Day
>Daily
>Deal
>DAILY
>deal

How do you fuck that up?
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>>160284337
Thanks senpai
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>>160284398
LOVELY DAY FOR A FIGHT
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>>160284482
What happens?
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>>160283942
>tfw only have 1 Tia
The bounce cards count as the other 2 copies r-right?
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I love her dress after evolve.
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>>160275675

Themis is what went wrong
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I swear to fucking god this is just depressing at this point.
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>>160284581
I'm trying to make sense of her hands and I can't.
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>>160284719
git gut
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>>160284719
Happens to the best of us anon.
Unless you're consistently getting 2-0. In that case it's time to get good
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>>160283979
Thanks anon, retards like you keep the game alive
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Should I become unpure and play some ranked stormhaven?
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>>160284528
What do you mean? The private match win was for a quest, I got my 30g.
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>>160274348
Forte up the poop chute.
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Just started and made it to D0. Is there anything I can do with these or do I just need to continue weathering the storm with budget sword?
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>>160284752
They make perfect sense
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>>160284816
>Happens to the best of us anon.

No it doesn't. I've never had anything less than 3-2 even in my first tries at Arena.
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>>160285124
You need to reroll.
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>>160277558
Fuck that card a 5/6 for 4 with a relevant ability is too pushed.
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lol
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>>160285058
>ywn stuff your face in that ass

end me
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>>160285181
It does though.
Arena is heavily luck based; sometimes you just get fucked and there's nothing you can do about it. Sometimes your draft sucks, sometimes your draws are shit, sometimes your opponents have the perfect answers or just insane decks. If you haven't gotten less than 3-2 yet consider yourself lucky, but it's gonna happen one day. It's just a matter of time.
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>replace 20 gold mission
>get a 50 gold
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>>160285124
You can work towards an Elena deck
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>>160285316
Funny, I used to hear the same thing from shitters in MtG about Draft. Coincidentally they were always the ones that was go 0-X and then drop from the event every single time. I guess it must just always be "luck" with some people.
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>>160285358
>replace a 20 gold mission
>get a 20 gold mission
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>>160284404
The same way people buy the wrong card pack, get overwhelmed by having the option of more than one deck slot per class and how "(ward) is confusing for new players".

Never mind Vampy's perfect bat math class or being able to count to 5.

>>160284752
Her left fist is warping the perspective of the right a little, now I look at it. Also finger pointing while gripping.
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It would have been a 13 winstreak if I didn't get randomly Atomemed.
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>>160284752

not that hard anon.

her leg stance bothers me way more
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Does anyone actually do the daily deal? This game seems so generous it feels dumb to do it.
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>>160285449
>mine was a win 4 matches with two classes I've never even considered playing
just end me
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>>160285412
I guess you must just be a card game god then anon.
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>>160285449
>replace a 20 gold mission
>get a free pack mission
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>>160285181
Your parents must be very proud.
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>>160285452
She just has child birthing hips and reptilian bone structure. And yeah, her grip makes sense now.
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>>160285449
>replace a 30 gold mission
>get a 20 gold mission for a class I don't play
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>>160285541
Not really, I just don't blame everything on "luck" to make myself feel better about a loss.

>>160285580
You really want to bring parents into this while you're on a thread on 4chan talking about a weeb card game? You don't have any high ground to be looking down from.
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>>160284038
>>160284253
>>160284324
>>160284404
WHEN I GO TO SUBWAY THE DAILY DEAL THERE IS A FUCKING RUBEN THAT DOENS"T MEAN I CAN ONLY BUY ONE SANDWICH REEEEEEEEEE
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>there are people RIGHT NOW in this thread who replace their missions

...
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>>160285731
Did you talk to the sandwich artists about your problem?
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Is this ok for a starter deck? Gabriel didn't fit into the picture.
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>>160285805
I replace anything that doesn't give me a pack.
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>>160285805
s-shut up erika
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>>160285696
Looks like i touched a nerve. Don't take it too hard, lad.
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>>160285805
sorry I don't want to play shit like bloodcraft
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>>160285805
why would you cheat yourself out of free gold just so you can post in /svg/ about it
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>>160285412
This.
I still don't get how there still are people who don't understand that the thing they are lacking is limited fundamentals, not luck.
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Dance of death was a mistake
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>>160283542
>beginner rank
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>been playing Haven since release
>tired of it, and wanting to try Blood or Shadow
>tfw those decks are crazy expensive
>tfw I'm not even close to crafting one
>tfw I pull only shit from boosters and can't even liquidate cards for vials

Guess I'll just stomp people with Elena and get stomped by D-Shit for eternity.
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>>160285805
I replace all Swordshit missions
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> face THREE (3) ELVES in a row
> don't draw a single angelic barrage

fuck this game
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>>160285696
You can try to ignore luck as best you can, but at the end of the day sometimes you just get screwed over. Luck is an unavoidable factor of card games, twice so the draft.
You can try to talk big about how you've never gone less than 3-2 because you want to stroke your dick in front of all of us. Doesn't change the fact that even the best limited players can have shitty arena runs. But once again, I guess a card game god like you is above such things, right?
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>>160285986
>blood
>expensive
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>Dragonewt Scholar into Dracomancer's Rites
I ain't got a fucking clue what's going on here BUT I DON'T LIKE IT.
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>>160285938
Most people in card game generals don't want to actually get better. It's the one thing that's consistent in all of them.
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>>160285860
If you're going for bannermeme drop everything that costs more than 5 and that luminous knight, she's just bad.

Fill up those 2x to 3x and get 3 maids, trust me they're worth it.

None of this matters if you're starting out, you will rape shitters regardless
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>>160285986

Aggro bat is like 5k vials depending on what you have
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>>160285696
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Wow, Garuda looks a lot different in RoB
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>>160285957

yeah, it's a mistake it doesn't cost less to deal with horseshit like turn 2 atomeme or turn 3 4/5 ancient elf
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>>160285938
And even with strong limited fundamentals you can still lose thanks to poor draws, poor drafting options, and what cards your opponent has, all of which are based on luck.
There's a difference between someone blaming luck because they can never go past 2-3 and someone blaming luck for a 2-3 run when they can consistently get 4-1. You can preach about the fundamentals all you want but sometimes you really do just get unlucky.
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>>160286134
5k vials + 500g for vampire loli, otherwise it's uplayable.
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>>160286134
>>160286037
Control blood is like 30k
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>>160284719
you should stream I need a good laugh
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>>160286069
INFINITE FUEL until he decks himself
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does Eris take the bird, cat, and dog dick?
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>>160286037
>>160286134
I don't want to play aggroshit though.

If I played Blood, I'd like to make a control deck instead. Just something that uses interesting cards like Bloody mary.
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>play Gekigarazu's Face Dragon with Deathmist Dragons

Man it feels hilarious shutting down banner swords like crazy
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>>160286239
>If I played Blood, I'd like to make the worst version of the deck and then lose constantly.

Whatever. Your vials to throw away if you want.
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>>160285412
There is a lot more going on in an mtg draft.

There's more than just picking the best card for your deck.
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>>160285889

not that guy but it's struck a nerve

struck a nerve

remember that, you dirty esl
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>>160286297
You speak as if aggro didn't lose to everything that isn't elana/non-earth rune
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>>160286234
It seemed like the guy actually got fucked by RNG. He played 3 Dragonewt's Fists and all of them whiffed, and despite having 9 cards in his hand most of the game he didn't really get much on board. He was running Altered Fate, so I suspect it was some PtP Discard Dragon where every PtP was milled when his hand was full.
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>>160286317
Arena is far easier than an MtG draft. There's no worrying about what you're passing, what you're being passed, what sort of signals are being sent, practically nothing. The only real concerns are your curve, picking up bombs, and picking up removal.
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>>160286196
Yes, you can get very unlucky,
The OP was complaining that it constantly happens to him, which is why we are discussing your former example.
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>only get meme legos like atomy, Pluto,
and skullfane
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>>160285860
Banner doesn't usually run Sage Commander, I'd honestly replace them with the 3-4 taunt. Also, replace Luminous Knight with another Maid Leader, they really help with consistency.

Gabe is a bit slow for the deck but ok if you don't have any Alwida as it gives you some reach later on.
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ALLAH ACKBAR
ALLAH ACKBAR

That's all it takes for this little girl to enter the field and commit suicide taking out all your bats and knights in the process. Why aren't you playing elana haven yet?
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s i l v e r b o l t
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Is there any reason I am meeting a bunch of healing Vampire decks instead of aggro in A1?

The ones that use sweetfang vampire, wardrobe raider and stuff
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>>160285731
>he didn't go to Jimmy John's or even the superior Publix
Point at him and laugh!
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>>160274348
you like an animal
I want to feel you from the inside
I want to fuck you like an animal
My whole existance is flawed
You bring me closer to God!
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Blood or Rune for t2?
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>>160286523
I was just arguing with that guy who was said going 2-3 doesn't happen to everyone because he hasn't gone less than 3-2 yet because he's such a special little snowflake.
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I'm so tired of facing elf. Fuck Tia, fuck Ancient elf, fuck Roach, fuck elf child. People complain about haven when forest has so many broken cards a single nerf won't do shit.
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>>160286549
>>160285860
Oh and run Fearless Banneret at 3. One of the best aggro 2 drops in the game (you can take out Whole Sworded Swing, it doesn't synergise with what you are trying to do).
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Swordcraft is for sick fuck lolicons.
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>>160286705
the third option
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>>160286803
Bloodcraft*
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>>160286803
That's not Shadowcraft and Bat Bloodcraft.
Bat Bloodcraft specifically because Control Blood is on the opposite side of things
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>>160286708
Well maybe he hasn't, I haven't either.
You just replied to the OP to pat him and yourself on the back for doing poorly when it's obvious that at least one of you need to learn how to draft.
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If someone would be so kind

42891
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Made a cool deck lads, I want to know what you think.

I don't have all the cards I'd like, I haven't been playing long.

It even works against d-shift and haven if your playing at shitter c rank like I am.
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>>160287157
Curse of Rebirth isn't worth it
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>>160287205
yeah its just kind of a filler card
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what the fuck is the friend list even for in this game

you can't do anything except invite to a private match
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>>160287157
>shadow
>no cerb

It's hopeless.
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>three back to back haven decks

fine i'll fucking quit playing for the night then

jesus
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>>160287205
Had to look that up as it sounds like recursion effect. Turns out it is a shitty buff+ zombie effect.

Reanimator deck when?
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Ok I know legendaries are suppose to be good pluses but why the fuck did they make a literal I win card!!? I was one turn away from winning on turn 9 and this card was played

>pic related
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1200 crystal guy here, just learned about rerolling my packs only gave me 2 legendaries fuck this game
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>>160287473
Just play banner or bats to soften the pain, that's what I'm doing.
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How do I make my Elana more lewd?
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>>160287538
This your first time seeing an alternate win condition, HS baby?
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>>160287547
its alright anon, i only got 2 legendaries and i didnt reroll too. i'm still doing fine! it's not THAT important.
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>>160287624
Glory be!
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>>160287569
They should make events that reward alternate art cards.
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So I'm stuck here deciding what to craft next and I don't want to craft the 3rd copies of cards and I'm holding out that I'm gonna pull them eventually.
Should I go for Ancient Elves?
Seems like Tempo Forest is the closest I am to and I want to start enabling more decks and I'm trying not to craft golds since I play a tonne of T2 so I open tons of packs.
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>>160287624
GLORY BE
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>>160287624
>tfw I only have 1 odin
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>>160287538
Its still kind of bad because it generally takes an entire turn to play and does nothing on a turn where most decks have access to a lot of damage potential. You have to be really far ahead to use this safely.
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>>160287714
Even with 3 Tias, you're not all that close to a forest deck. It needs a lot of gold cards
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WEW
>Alexander
>Calamitous curse
>Animated Labyrinth Devil
>Animated Ceridwen
This may not be the "best" pack but its damn pretty
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>>160287624
Nope dont play HS at all, a new shadowverse player and this is the biggezt bs ive lost to. He dropped it on turn 8 and won on 9...
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>>160287769
>Its still kind of bad because it generally takes an entire turn to play and does nothing on a turn where most decks have access to a lot of damage potential. You have to be really far ahead to use this safely.
>He doesn't know
You don't have to be ahead at all. You just need to survive one turn after you play it. It's actually really good, Seraph and Elana/Seraph Haven are both very strong decks right now.
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>>160287842
You got my boy Andras as well. Pretty nice pack.
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>when you get 7 commons and a silver 5 times in a row

should've rerolled my life
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>>160287547
Why the fuck would you reroll after you buy 1200 crystals? How stupid are you? Is this just bait?
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>>160287624
Glory Be!
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>>160287848
If Seraph scares you, you should probably start before you hit DShift ratings. They OTK on 8 on average, 7 on a good game.
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>>160288012
The art on Andras is so great. I wish it was slightly better.
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>>160288126
Can you read?
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>>160287624
Glory be!
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>>160288126
They probably just don't know how to use a comma.
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>>160287914
I know, anon, i run the deck.
Its a control and burstless midrange buster. Sucks if you are kneedeep in aggro though
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>>160287714
Just off the top of my head, after the 2 Ancient Elves (assuming you hold off on the third copy which is something I also personally do), you'd need 3x Roach, 3x Liza, and 2-3x Cynthia if you have no copies of any of them yet which still ends up being over 10k vials.
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what can and should you spend rupies on?
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>>160287624
Glory be!
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>>160287848
Either win before that, put Odin in your deck to banish it, or try to have a really strong board before his turn 8 so he can't play it because he can't do anything that turn.
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>>160287624
Glory be!
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>>160287624
Glory be!
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>>160287697
Something about that art makes me damn horny. I can't stop staring
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>>160288149
I only have one and it's animated.

I think his everything is fine too, he just doesn't fit in the meta.
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>>160287835
>>160288217
True, I'd still need 3 roaches, 2 Cynthias and a few Lizas, but considering how much I enjoy playing the class sue me I feel like I'll be making a full deck eventually
Though maybe I should just bite the bullet and enable some cheap decks like aggro bats and face dragon without the Fortes.
For now I'm just gonna reap the DE packs from Take Two and hope I get what I'm looking for.
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>>160288216
I've found it's not that bad against aggro, you just have to focus on grinding them out instead of going with the Seraph plan.
Hell one time I rushed down a face dragon player so hard he had to use Fortes to trade to survive, that was a fun game. Aria is a well balanced card when it lets a control deck rush down a dedicated aggro deck.
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>>160288320
You are probably a thigh man.
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Do any of the webm makers ITT have an animated Serpent Charmer?
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>>160287547

I only got like 2 legendaries and 6 golds starting out, and I already have a workable memehaven deck.

I may not be able to build anything else, but goddammit I shall rage my frustration in the beginner's bracket like a vengeful nerd god.
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>>160287624
Glory be
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>>160288320
It's probably Satan's ward pasties
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Will free packs be given out when the expansion hits? Does the daily deal apply to the upcoming pack?
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>>160288413
No kidding. Aria flat out carries seraph imo. Seraph by itself is mediocre
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>>160288474
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>>160288320
Consider crafting Beast Dominator and accepting domination as your one true fetish. don't actually craft her though she's terrible.
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>>160288616
Thanks
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>at 7/11 buying steam card
>gay black cashier asks me "so what is this.. steam?"
god damn that was awkward
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>>160288227
First priority is the Vania Skin
then Arena
if you manage to get 3 wins on average, it's cheaper than buying packs in the shop (the trade-off being the time you spend)
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>>160288560
Aria flat out carries the Havencraft class.
That said I think Seraph would honestly be fine without it, at least the pure Seraph version and not the hybrid deck.
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>>160288525
If it's like DE then yes and yes.
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>>160288764
>he forgot mordecai
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>>160288623
I won't spend the vials on it but i already crafted her in my heart.
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>>160288623

I'm fairly certain she's only a legendary due to the descriptions.
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>>160288623
>>160288863
Her evo is even better.
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>>160288539
Thanks anon. I was spooked.
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>>160283437
ive always wanted to do
1 cursed general
3 cyclone soldiers
if you have banner up thats 12 damage
you can also hide him with assassin
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>>160288846
never
Luna is love
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talk me out of buying crystals /svg/
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>>160289046
Just be yourself desu
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>>160288623
>>160288961
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I'm glad
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>>160288961
Omg look this art is so inconsistent wow art from 2005 is way better than this
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>>160288995
Np. Didnt expect aggro blood to have wards. Did you have lethal that last turn? I figured you did.
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>>160289038
>he doesn't like anime settra
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>>160289046
Just do it
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>>160289046
I don't regret buying crystals to do the daily deal every day since I started playing.
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>>160289046

do you have a job and value your time?

If so, just reroll
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>>160289046
Make sure to praise Seraph before you do.
>>160287624
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>>160289138
What is settra that you guys are talking?
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>>160289046
Do the one time deal and buy 1 pack a day for the premium value

anything else is a waste imo
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>>160289046
do it anon, you'll be supporting the game you enjoy
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>>160289108
You realize its common for art for TCGs to be done variety of art and come in a variety of styles, right? Hearthstone has the same thing going on.
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Anyone else notice we have a higher concentration of SEAshitters than usual today?
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>>160289338
Do you have animated Imp Lancer, anon?
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>>160289256
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Settra_the_Imperishable
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>>160289098
Welcome to hell, anon.
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>>160289046
If you do then don't buy many
just buy enough to take the daily deal for a week or 2
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>>160288623
I really want to roll some so I can test her. Can't justify dropping vials to craft her with the current opinion though.
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>>160289452
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Could I get a quick concede?

10749
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>Bought 600 crystals deal on mobile
>Get on PC
>0 crystals
What is this bullshit? My accounts were linked when I bought them
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Which set packs should I buy with my coins?
Or is there an expansion I should save my coins for?
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>>160289674
She was my first and only leggo when i started playing until we got the free lucifer.

She is a decent value card, but not much more. Her ability is pretty irrelevant because she usually dies on the opponents turn, and she forces an unfavorable evo at best, gets executed at worst. Its an above average card, but for constructed that usually doesnt cut it unless that slot has nothing better
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>>160289796
Thanks!
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>>160289829
Just spend them on your phone, crystals being separate is working as intended.
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>>160286464
>discard dragon PTP
I know what I'm working on next. Want to see if this could make phoenix roost work and maybe angel crusher work
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>>160289829
I don't think crystals are shared between devices
you have to jump back to your phone to use those spent crystals
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>>160289829
Crystals are managed by Google/Steam/etc, not Cygames. You need to spend them where you bought them
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>>160289938
Dont, last time I saw a bunch of people trying that shit, they either got their faces crushed in or milled themselves to death
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>>160289843
The ones that have more cards you still need. If you just started, that's the standard set in 99% of the cases.
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>>160289452

here have one in shit resolution since I bothered capturing it and all
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>>160289829
Didn't know Steam had a mobile app

idiot
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>>160289793
>>160290087
Thanks guys~
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>>160289906
She's pretty unplayable with Dance of Death being in every other deck now. Same reason Goblinmount isn't very popular any more.
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>>160289843
If you're plannign on playing Haven in the near future, you might want to get Darkness packs, because the have Beastcall, Elena, Garuda and Seraph.

Forest also has some nice cards in the Darkness set (Liza, Tia, Cynthia).

Everyone else, the Standard set for sure
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>>160290196
I know this is supposed to be sarcastic but steam actually does have a mobile app

idiot
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Forthree
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WHAT THE FUCK ARE SHADOWS? I JUST GOT DESTROYED BY SOME FAGGOT DEALING 12 DAMAGE EACH TURN TO ALL MY SHIT.
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>he's in lethal range but can't get one more shadow

feels bad

Also if I snowmen to summon like 16 of them, do I get 11 shadows from that?
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>>160288623
>don't actually craft her though she's terrible.
dont worry I opened 3 already. I kept them, even tried them for a while. She's alright, just doesn't fit in aggro or control, which is the focus on blood right now. Midrange would suit her well.
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>>160290583
PURGED
U
R
G
E
D
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Since starting the game I took screenshots of every take 2 result and put them in a folder, today I made some sort of graph out of the amount of wins

Logically thinking 2.5 is the average arena results so this should be better than average at least. I know the sample size is pretty small but how do the class specific results compare to actual arena tierlists or averages? I've heard sword is top tier but that doesns't really show in my results etc
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>>160290583
Too spooky for you.
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>>160290624
What does "30 shadows" mean. How does a forestfag have shadows?
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>>160290583
>WHAT THE FUCK ARE SHADOWS?

Does everyone skips the tutorial or what?
Why does this comes up every thread?
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>>160290726
It's his graveyard.

Click on his deck to check them.
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>>160290583
Shadows are the remains of whatever card has been destroyed. 1 destroyed card = 1 shadow. No matter what craft you play.

Mostly dealt with by Shadowcraft, but some cards outside of shadowcraft use shadows too.
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>>160290583
Cards in your graveyard
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>>160290726
Everyone has shadows. that's what dead units are called.
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>>160290726
Click on your deck ingame m8, it's your "graveyard".
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>>160290610
no, excess followers are banished, not destroyed
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>>160290847
>dead units are called.
more like used/destroyed cards, since even casting a spell makes a shadow. Every card becomes a shadow.
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>>160290825
>>160290836
>>160290847

Thank you.

I like when the game has alternative win conditions. HS would never do this because it's not fun to lose to this kind of shit.
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>>160287538
>just came across this for the first time

holy shit haven are cancer. It's bad enough almost every card is basically auto win, but then to actually have AN ACTUAL FUCKING AUTO WIN CARD.

I had them down to their last bit of health as well and they just chained together a load countdown boosts and autowon.

And on top of that I swear every single fucking haven player that's about to lose chooses to fucking disconnect their internet rather than face the horror of being outplayed.
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>>160290930
Search for Seraph
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>>160290797
in the 30 seconds it takes to mash skip on the tutorial people look up netdecks and resent having to do even a single level of story mode before rolling face on ladder and screaming in pain whenever they see a card that isnt curvestone
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>play against perfect bat deck in t2
This has to be cheating, right?
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>This fucking combo
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>>160290930
Yeah you're right it's nothing like losing to freeze mage or barnes into rag or Yogg
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Well, this was fun
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>>160290583
>>160290726
>>
need a private match win

we can play or you can concede up to you

35435
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>>160290797

Does everyone skip English lessons or what?
Why does this come up every thread?

Anyways, I've done Forest, Sword, Dragon and Haven tutorial but I haven't seen any talk about Shadows.
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>>160286203
>>160286239
>control blood
lol
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Can you people stop shitposting Hearthstone threads with "Shadowverse is better?" There's no reason to flaunt your preference in video games and I don't want any of those people making the switch and shitting up this thread more than Steam already has.
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>>160291370
thanks for reminding me to do it, will do right away sir.
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>>160291370
>implying it's not hearthstone shitposters falseflagging their own threads to try and start shit.
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>>160291370
I feel like posts like this are reverse-psychology shitposting trying to get people to be baited into entering other threads.
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>win 4 matches as necro
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>>160291524
aggro shadow is fast and easy

forest dailies are suffering if you don't have the cards.
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>>160290920
Except banished ones

Or am I wrong?
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>>160291370
>There's no reason to flaunt your preference
Showing the light to lesser people is not a preference, it's an obligation.
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>>160290932
its not that, its the sum of havencrafts parts

its got practically everything, some the greatest of those things

like its removal cards, blackened scripture, priest of the cudgel and themis' decree

its got tons of card draw too, sacred plea, monastic holy water, and hallowed dogma

then you've got the fact that there is little to no amulet removal in the game, and how absolutely broken some of the amulets she has, like aria.
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>>160291610
you're right, banish doesn't leave any shadows. It's pretty much an "exiled" effect.
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>>160289097
What's the use of this card?

I have three of those already.
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>>160291229
sankyuu
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>>160291764
4/6 is above curve!
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>>160291764
It's use is giving you 1k more vials to spend on something else.
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>>160291652
>and how absolutely broken some of the amulets she has, like aria.
You mean Aria and only Aria. None of the other amulets are anywhere near broken. That was actually a huge problem Haven had pre DE, none of the countdown amulets were worth it except Sacred Plea and maybe Holy Sentinel.
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>>160291146
I lied. It was under terminology under help.

Could have swore there was a rules section under game guide.
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>>160287624
Glory be!
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Could I interest you guys in a control Shadow deck? I'm trying to make it better. Currently at rank A1. Since I got Luna to level 100 I've been playing other decks but I really want to go back and make this works.

Open to all kinds of ideas, even Atomy, Andras, etc.
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Spooky
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>>160291524
I saw this tweet earlier https://twitter.com/satoji_shadow/status/798331783854968832 then tried the deck out in master rank and got the same win streak.
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>>160291998
>that mirror
>that panda
that's pretty cool actually
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>>160291652
The thing that makes me angry about Themis is that, you go through the trouble of filling your board with shit and then she just wipes it. And since it doesn't affect amulets, her Seraph just keeps on ticking, and their Elanas are still on the board, so really, she loses nothing by playing that spell.
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>>160292020
Seems like a good deck against forest/haven/aggro tards

Which is basically 99% of the game population.
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>>160291998
I'm grinding T2 for those Pascales so I can finally put these two to good use.
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>Got a Merlin
>She doesn't have an emblem
Oh fuck off
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>>160286561
Because I'm the one summoning ISIS lolis.

>>160291370
You're an idiot.
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Can anyone post a good PtP forest list? I want to see what I'm missing.
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I need more skellybros
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>>160292589
Only DE cards have emblems so far.
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1-5 DrunkTake 2
6-0 Sober Ranked
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Trail of light in discard dragon Y/N?
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>you will never go into a forest and get raped by a gaggle of fairies while they say very mean and racist things about humans and their penis sizes

why even live
>>
>play t2 and get matched against everyone that has the autistic flairs that show they play this game too much
>all of their drafts are leagues better than mine, go 1-4
>get the pack and it's 7 bronze 1 silver

I'm ready for the noose.
I also got fucking atomemed.
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>>160292678
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.1.61jJY.61jJY.61jJY.5zvAY.5zvAY.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k32.61k32.61k32.5zvAi.5zvAi.5zvAi.61oCC.61oCC.61oCC.5zvvQ.5zvvQ.5zvvQ.65YC2.65YC2.61qeS.61qeS.61qeS.61lmu.61lmu.61lmu.65enI.65enI.61oww.61oww.61lmk.61lmk.61QWQ.61QWQ.61QWQ.61Q1A.61Q1A.61Q1A
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>>160292678
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck-archetype/purgatory-forestcraft
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>>160291652
And Elana is definitely the most value amulet in the game.
>woodland gives 1/0 to a single follower once per turn at the end of the turn and it has to be a 1/x follower
>frontline gives 1/0 once per turn at the end of the turn and it has to be an officer
>banner gives 1/0 max and only to officers
>rogue needs your followers to maintain ambush (so no attacking) to get its benefits, only procs at the end of your turn
>well gives 1/1 to a single follower once per turn

>Elana procs any number of times on any number of followers during your turn
The value is insane here.
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I'll let you guys pick this one for me
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>>160293147
Tits
Left x15
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>>160292950
RIP nutbladder
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>>160293147
Swordcraft if you want to win.
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If you play a private match and your opponent concedes, does it help to complete dailies?

>>160293095
You have Vania for a reason, Anon.
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>>160293147
Rune all day every day
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>>160293147
Draft Earthmemes like a real man.
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>>160293329
Only if it's a Private Match daily
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>>160293329
Fuck I'm retarded that was for >>160293147

>>160293387
I see, thanks!
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>>160293252
>>160293278
>>160293371
ok I have only gone 4-1 five times and 3-2 once with rune so far wish me luck fampais
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>>160293504
Good luck anon!
Easy right
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>>160293504

I'll be waiting for the results. It would be nice if you could post deck before beginning.
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4th T2
First 5 win /svg/!
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first 5-0 in arena, feels pretty good
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>>160293504
Curse is great in take 2, because 3 removal spells for the price of one.
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>>160293802
>>160293824
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>>160293504
Right


>>160293802
>>160293824
Good jobs anonys
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PLS HELP
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>>160293802

> 4th T2
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>>160293802
also list

almost lost to a Vampy but she couldn't handle 2 Mordecai's and the Charon midgame
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>>160293889
>not immediately going right
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>>160294041
fuck I'm retarded
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>>160293889
>not immediately going left
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>>160294220
Anon don't
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>>160293889
>not immediately pressing back button
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>>160294163
>>160294220
>>160294280
I went right...
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Send help.
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>>160293889
left
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Is going first/second a random thing? Also what are the exact rewards for Take Two?
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>>160294582
Anon no
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>>160294596
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>>160294616
0 Wins: Pack Ticket
1 Win: Pack Ticket + ~30g
2 Wins: Pack Ticket + ~50g
3 Wins: Pack Ticket + ~70g
4 Wins: Pack Ticket + ~130g
5 Wins: Pack Ticket + ~250g

There is a good amount of variance in the rewards
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>>160293915
maybe you should git gud anon
all the others were 4-1 ruined by Olivia
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>>160293754
Sure

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/3?hash=2.3.5zWm2.62U8Y.62U8i.62U8i.66IXo.66IXo.62XKI.62ZmE.66J0Q.62UOU.62WqQ.62U8s.66IHi.66IHi.66Kjo.62UOK.61O4U.659nE.5-iS6.5-iS6.62Wba.66IIK.62Uta.6592C.62Wao.66Kjy.62Zlw.62Utu.62bTc.62bTc
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>Arena
>me shadow vs rune
>has 1 scrap golem and 1 random 2-2, I have mummy
>turn 4 evolve playful necromancer, clear the golem with ghosts and kill the other with necro, go face with mummy
>Lord Atomy
>he doesn't have removal the next turn

Jolliest game of the day

The best part is I got Atomy in the mulligan and kept him just for the laughs
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>>160294838

I pulled an Olivia in my last T2 run as sword and went 2/5. She didn't help at all.
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>>160294919
>Sword
Well yeah if a game takes that long you've already failed as Swordcraft
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>>160294919
Lmaoing at your cuck life my man.
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>>160293802
>>160293824
Fuck you people.

I had to face some fucker with three fucking banners. And the commander that adds storm to every newly deployed officer. Fuck people with T2 luck.
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>>160289097
it's a 8/8 ( evolved ) that only cost 5 play point, pretty strong card for its low cost
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>>160295149
>Downgrades to 6/6
>hits you in the face
It's not very strong.
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It may not be a 5-0, but it feels pretty good anyway. This is the first time I've used Rune in Take Two ever since my newbie period where I just wasted all my free tickets getting smashed.
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Haven't gotten Sword in Take 2 yet I have no idea what I'm doing
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>>160295149
Loses -2 attack though if not during revenge.
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anyone have any thought's on this guy?

I kinda like pulling an 11/11 out on turn 6.
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>>160275675
I just beat DSshift head on with golem memes, actually. Seems Ancient Alchemist and/or Juno's is the tech that really does it - especially Juno's, control can't do anything about it but remove the golems one by one.

Real talk, what golem needs is one more viable earth sigil, you're forced to run Price of Magic or Elementary Alchemy. Or have a blast with Teaching of Nature, and one orb unused turn 3 unless you drew two smelters.
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Requesting a concede
83304
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>>160295123
>Three banners
That sounds awful. How did you lose to someone who played 3 banners?
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>>160295364
post list please
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>>160295027
>banner is the only way to play sword

t. D Rank shitter
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>>160295149
It's not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be, just not worth 3.5k to craft. Even a Gold cost to craft it would be iffy.
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>>160295387
I was playing rune.
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Just got out of a match where I dropped someone to 1 HP then he started cleaning up my board.

>On the turn where he thought he got me cornered and was gonna kill me next turn, he suddenly spams his leader's taunt.

>Draw a Quickblader. Put it down and spam my taunt back at the faggot and swing for the win.

Felt so nice to pay it back to his face
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>>160295360
Vanishes like the jew
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>>160295369
Danke
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>>160295521
So? You were in take two right?
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This was a fair and balanced match.

>>160295360
He doesn't seem that bad in PtP since he's basically a soft ward if powered up and you'll be keeping a lot of cards anyway. The opponent having to spend resources to stop him slows their tempo too. I've only seen him used once though and it might be better to just use Fairy Beast instead since he's a soft ward too because of the bounce threat.
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>>160295427

Says the 2-5 CONFIRMED shitter
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>>160295557
I wonder when sword will finally get a decent removal that isn't solely focused on tsubaki.
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>>160295671
>Everyone is the same person
ebinn
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>>160292589
What the fuck is an emblem
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>>160295774
Basically avatars for your profile
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if you don't win at least 3 in take two just give up there is no hope for you
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>>160295628
Yay cheesing a victory against rune.

Never seen this before.
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>>160295238
pls
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>>160295825
N-no pls just one more chance.
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>>160295705
Are you kidding?
First off, they already have other options like Whole-Souled Swing, Ruthless Assassin, Giant Slayer, and Onslaught. And fucking DoD.
Second, if they gave Sword really good removal the class would be insanely overpowered rather than somewhat overpowered like it is right now.
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So, what happens if you fail trials from a letter to another?
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>>160294872
I got fucking meme'd on boys
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>>160295628

>母ちゃんんんんん!カメラ!
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>>160295992
Being memed on feels great, isn't it?
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Could 2 Erasmus in earth rite be good?

In like some kind of ultra late game variant 2 erasmus with odin olivia satan etc?
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>>160295992

what the fuck

this is take two? how did that guy get so lucky with the ambush rolls?
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>>160295992
>earthen rune
Ins't getting meme'd on the life of that deck?
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>>160295992
looks like you were memeing each other
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>>160296150
It's not even that rare. I've met like 3 rogue's creed decks in the last couple of days.
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>>160295962
You forgot Alexander too. Honestly Sword's removal is pretty good now. Before it was only Tsubaki and Giant Slayer and now they not only made banner and control viable play styles, they also gave them removal you can fit in easily.
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>>160295238
>>160295865
your choice they're both pretty good I think left is better though WP is meh
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Post your most epic memes.
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FLORAL FLURRY
MY LOYALTY IS IRON CLAD
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Shadowverse's new TV commercial.

https://a.pomf.cat/vkatan.mp4
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>>160296361
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>>160296326

should I remove my DoD for Giant Slayers?

I mainly use it to remove those pesky wards and most of the time they don't meet the 5+ attack requirement.
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>>160296415
DING DONG
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>>160296361
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>>160296415
Did I just get memed on?
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>>160296453
No
DoD is more flexible and the burn is stupidly good.
Fuck that card.
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>>160296415
If that's legit it's amazing.
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Where's the faggots that kept saying haven was bad against d shit
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>>160296248
I was wondering why is there an increase in meme decks nowadays

Stuff like Earth Rite, Deathly Tyrant, Ambush Sword

I suppose it shows the game is healthy if people are willing to try out new strange decks but still...
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>>160296415

h-hayai!

>>160296535

> MOMMMMMMMMMMMM
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>>160296415
>trailer entirely focused on our girl
I need to buy more crystals.
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>>160296453
No. Giant Slayer sucked before DE and it still sucks. The only reason to put it in before was so you could have removal before turn 6 in case an Elf player got crazy with Ancient Elf.
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>>160296137
Sure. The issue is moreso that Earth Rite is terrible.
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>>160296535
That ins't a proper DS rune.
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>>160296415
>That board of six ding dongs
Fucking incredible
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Decks i want to finish

Tyrant
Final cerberus- 3500 vials

Banner
2nd alwidas and last 2 r. assassins- 1200 vials

D-shift-
2 merlin and last 2 levi- 8600 vials

Mid range/face dragon
Forte x3- 10500 vials

Satan dragon
Last 2 Wyvern cavalier- 1600 vials

Total cost- 28900 vials

>Mfw

Im taking it one deck at a time, and i am fortunate to have a stormhaven, aggro blood and control blood done, but the grind feels like it never stops.

Sorry to blog.
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>>160296620
I dunno, I see some DShitters tech in scrap iron golems and petrification as additional wards and also a tech card against banner and elana
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>>160296535
>my d rank match beats statistics
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>>160296535
Storm Haven was never bad against DShift anyway, but keep patting yourself on the back for winning an already good match-up you cancerous shit
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>>160296674
I have generic shadow aggro and DShift to finish before I can focus on building memes like Atomy spam, ramp dragon, control blood and dirt rune.
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>>160296674
I need I need 22600 for just one deck and I only have two complete decks. Fuck off.
>>
>play Storm Haven
>Already feel a bit disgusted at myself for using it
>Feel even more disgusted that alot of the Storm Haven spammers on the ladder are actually crap based on the mirror matches

I quit ranked for now, my pride cant take this
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>>160295962
>>160296453
What is DoD?
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"Where the fuck is my second erasmus will I really have to draw 8 cards to find him"

I did.
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>>160295416
Too lazy to screencap on portal. Not really finished, should be more consistent eventually.

3x Iron Scrap Smelter
2x Crafty Warlock (to-be-removed)
3x Apprentice Alchemist
3x Timeworn Mage Levi
3x Red-Hot Ritual
3x Petrification
3x Witchbolt
2x Elementary Alchemy (underperforms)
2x Price of Magic (underperforms)
3x Fissure Bomb
3x Alchemist's Workshop
1x Ancient Alchemist (need a second one)
2x Sun Oracle Pascale
2x Fate's Hand (performs surprisingly well, considering three)
0x Golem Protection (it SHOULD be good here, there just isn't space for it on the curve)
2x Calamitous Curse
2x Twin Guardians
1x Juno's Secret Laboratory (somewhat interchangable with twin guardians, it's matchup dependent)
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>>160295238
>Left: An amazing card and a bad card
>Right: A good card and a great card
You should be able to solve this
>>
Anyone else notice all the Midrange Blood decks that have popped up recently. They are really aggressive, but have much better cycle, drain to stay alive, and then outs with Bloody Mary. I've been trying to find a good list.
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>>160296969
>lazy to screenshot
>not lazy enough to write the whole decklist out
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>>160296965
PS: He conceded
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>>160295238
>Left: A good card and a great card
>Right: An amazing card and a bad card
You should be able to solve this
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>>160296940
You aren't wrong. Most stormhaven guys are terrible in the mirror since it actually takes some thought.
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>>160297143
White paladin isn't bad.
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>>160274238
what's with the hat
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>>160297000
>>160297143
the deck was already completed by your first reply

so thanks for nothing
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>>160297238
It's her charm point.
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>>160297254
You're welcome.
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>>160297238
She's a royalty you dip.
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>>160296950
A terrible card that they never should have made.
>>160297143
What? Stratagem isn't very good. It's a win-more tempo loss in a generally aggressive class.
Meanwhile Gabriel and White Paladin are both strong cards, Gabriel especially in Sword.
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>>160290583
ANY cards that get discarded, destroyed. tokens count too.
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>>160296950

dance of death a 5 cost removal spell that also deals free 2 damage to the leader
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>>160297238
They're adorable anon, it's been proven by a panel of judges.
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>playing a really budget shadowcraft deck for dailies
>win against batcraft because he doesn't understand how vampiric fortress works
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>>160296750
This was AA0 retard post your profile
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>>160296415
>we will never get godly commercials like this in the west
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>>160296880
>i need i need
With that cost its probably forest or one of the non-budget swords so fuck off yourself.

Unless its control blood or shadow, then good luck.
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>>160296415
>a whole commercial on DING DONG

based cygames
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>>160296415
I can't wait for the winking Ding Dong webm when we get the commercial uploaded proper.
>>
Is a snowman deck a thing I can do? The snowman is so cute.
>>
>>160297678
I already have a forest nigger.
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>>160296415
Ding Dong replacing Arisa as the poster girl for Shadowverse when?
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I knew he was going to pull this shit, after every long game against a nip this is what happens.
>>
>>160295416
3x Warlock
2x Levi
3x Teachings
2x Kaleidoscopic
3x Red-Hot
3x Petrification
2x Barrage
3x Alchemist's
1x Veteran
1x Ancient Alchemist
3x Remi
2x Sun Oracle Pascale
2x Fate's Hand
2x Golem Protection
1x Shadow Witch
3x Calamitous Curse
3x Juno's Secret Laboratory
1x Olivia
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>Fight 3 Elana decks in a row
>They all lose by turn 6-7
Too slow!
>>
Reminder if you're playing a strong deck you're cancer.
>>
>no drops on turns 1, 2 and 3 as fucking midrange sword three games in a row
Hmmm yes I completely do not deserve to climb.
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H-hello

I know you may not care, but I got my first 5-0 and pretty happy about it. But I don't have any friends to brag about it so I hope y-you don't mind my blogging
>>
Reminder if you're playing a weak deck you're cancer.
>>
Just pulled a third PtP in 2 days

What's the PtP forest deck list like?
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>>160298004
Good job, anon.
>>
Reminder if you're playing a deck you're cancer
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>>160298030
Feels like you open your wallet
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>>160298004
Congrats anon!
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>>160298004
Grats, anon.
>>
>>160298004
I JUST OPENED UP MY REWARDS

TWO TICKETS AND 200 RUPPIES

WHAT THE HELL

YOU GET HALF THAT VALUE IF YOU GET 4-1
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>Win 20 ranked matches as X
>Reward: Vials 20x

>Win 200 ranked matches
>Reward: Rupies 30x
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>>160298004
We are your friends, anon.
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>>160296415
>Two 1/1 roaches
>Evolved ding dong gets lethal
Nice.

>>160297864
>Repeatedly 2 off forcing lethal against Elana Haven with shoddy Blood Control deck
>Thinks he's safe on 14 and doesn't trade
>Outcome of the match will be determined in 90.
It's too satisfying.
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>>160298030
>>160292961

>>160298004
Congratulations anon!
>>
>>160297916
Does sunlight satan count?
>>
Is haven any fun to play? I can make a seraph/elana deck but I'm wondering if it's as braindead as everyone seems to be saying.
>>
>>160298114
>The two ticket reward
Damn anon, you got the good shit. Congrats.
>>160298030
>>160292961
>>
>only 7k players on Steam
How does it feel to play an inferior, less successful carbon copy of Hearthstone for autistic neckbeards?
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>>160298114
Congratulations you didn't get the
>1 pack
>150 rupees
>50 vials
meme
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>>160296535
Nips have a haven list called patron haven. Almost entirely cant be targeted creatures. Crushes d shift.
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>>160298076
I pulled 2 in my starter packs and just got an animated from 5-0 T2 run stay 'mirin
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Why is it that everytime I play Elana and DS they leave instead of just conceding? It ins't HARD to press the button, Jesus. I can't even be happy that people are rage quitting on me because it happens so fucking often.
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>>160298004
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>>160298056
T-thanks
>>160298096
T-thanks nice picture
>>160298109
T-thanks
>>160298157
T-thanks ; ;
>>160298162
T-thanks

>>160298206
T-thanks

Did I got lucky to get the two tickets reward ? whats the average value reward for 5-0
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>>160298180
Here's the fun value of Haven decks:
Storm Haven: none
Elana Haven: none
Elana/Seraph: a little
Full Seraph: a lot
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>>160298114
Rewards are variable.

>>160298180
I find Storm very fun to play but I love aggro decks.
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>>160298180
It's braindead once you know what to do and it's not just as simple as play minions on curve as others seem to think. It depends on the matchup.
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>>160293147
I'm counting this as a 2-3 because this >>160297115 doesn't count
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>>160298180
Seraph is fun but you're doing more or less the exact same thing every game. Elena is the ultimate anti-aggro meme. Despite no one really talking about it though Seraph is one of the most consistent decks in the game and has a very high and stable winrate.
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Top 10 most powerful anime powers
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>>160296969
>>160297875
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>>160298315
No worse feeling that going 4-1 because you lost to a knife ear
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>>160298351

not bad at all
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>>160298398
>Elf Child is still the strongest card
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>>160298467
>It's an Elf Child May rapes all the orcs episode
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>lost all 5 take two games
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>fucking card heals 5 hp and add +1/1 due to Elana

This is just so fucking stupid.

Call me back when they fix this shit game.
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>>160298326
>Elana/Seraph

How does that work? I play Elana for Havencraft quests and I already run into the problem of not having enough space on board for Elana's Prayer (god forbid, two), Sun, countdown amulet, and actual fucking followers to capitalize on Elana's.

God forbid I draw both the Suns in the deck. Dead draw right there.
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>>160298398
I want to fuck an elf child.
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Is it worth saving up the phials to 3500? Or is it better to just spend them on Gold cards?
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>>160298549
Tia gets all the bouncing.
No one talks about bouncing elf child may up and down and getting her off a bunch.
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>>160298308
This may shock you, but there are master-level players that did not know about the existence of the "retire" button.
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>>160298453
2-3 is still the worst rune run I had in arena so far, but to be fair it was a pretty janky deck even by rune take two standards
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>>160298387
Everyone's too busy masturbating over Elana/Seraph and most decks have the normal Seraph deck at like low tier two despite it having a %54~ winrate on ladder. I've been playing it since A3 and it's carried me to AA1 so far. On a 9 winstreak right now.
Also Elana isn't as anti-aggro as you think, hilariously it's very vulnerable to being rushed down.
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>>160298615
Depends entirely on the deck you want to run.
What deck do you want to run?
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>>160298543
Guardian Sun is pretty terrible imo, if you have to force people to trade into your cards then you're not playing the deck right. People should be trying to trade into your followers before they get out of control, otherwise you just steamroll them. The deck doesn't have the space for sun nor really needs it. Seraph is just a nice 1/2 off that can help close out games but it's not really needed.
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>>160298615
Gold is the best value you can spend them on, but if you really need a key legendary, save for it, and maybe you just happen to open the golds, or open the lego before you craft it.
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If you were in charge of Cygames, how would you balance the Shadow v Haven matchup in the next expansion?
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>>160298676
do you use x2 or x3 seraph?
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>>160298682
I know I want to run Dragoncraft, but idk which one specifically yet
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>>160298543
>Sun, countdown amulet,
You are not playing Elana correctly.

Other than aria countdown talis aren't a priority for it.
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Can I liquify pic related

Is it used in a top tier deck ?

Sorry for ant quality got lazy
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>>160298821
you'll be needing 3 Fortes then
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>>160298780
Gut Haven into the ground. Make Luna t1.
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>>160298615
Get the cards you need. If legendaries are going to get your more mileage, get them, otherwise don't be afraid of picking up your bronze cards first. A lot of decks run legendaries because of match ups or value rather than because it's core to their gameplan, you'd get more mileage out of each Phantom Howl than out of each Cerberus if you were building Aggro Shadow for example.
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>>160298780
by deleting haven
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>>160297914
>being able to evolve storm cards

Biggest mistake the devs ever made in this game. There's no stabilizing against sword.
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>>160298780
I'd implement common sense nerfs to Aria and Garuda and watch to see how it alters the win rate before deciding on further changes.
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>>160298543
>Sun
Don't run Sun in your Elana deck you silly goose. You're just asking for no board space like that. If you want to use Sun you gotta whip out the old Sunshine Satan list.
Anyway the elana/seraph deck is like the elana deck with the lategame cards replaced with 2x Seraphs and some extra countdown reduction thrown in.
>>160298805
3x. I started playing the deck because I actually opened all 3, so I figured I might as well give it a shot. Here's the list if you're curious: https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/seraph-havencraft. Just run 2x Death Sentence and 1x Execution instead.
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>>160298780
I'd hang all the havenniggers on the trees and make mexico pay for it.
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>>160298862
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/56morm/updated_legend_gold_liquefy_guide_post_darkness/

inb4 >le reddit xd. The website is shit but the guide is good.
tl;dr keep unless you hate blood
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>>160298780
All banish cards cost +1
There's no reason for Conflag to exist where Themis just deletes your board 100% of the time for one less mana.
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>>160298862
I wouldn't liquefy in the future she can be useful and this cards is not that bat.

The ward really cock block others aggro
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>>160298872
>>160298874
I'll save them for Forte then, thanks guys
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>>160299000
Conflag would work if meta was more lategame oriented.
Whale can survive it after all.
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>>160297914
>putting Elana on the field by turn 3

Good luck on your D rank duels, anon.
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>>160298780
It's probably the hardest match up to balance. Shadow rolls over so many decks already and its win rate would probably be the highest if not for how much Haven is running around. Give anything to Shadow and we'd probably be seeing it get way too much mileage when it's up against, I dunno, Sword.

I'd probably treat Shadow and the other crafts normally with expansion support but make sure to avoid giving Haven much for their existing playstyles. Make some new viable archetype for them that's less swingy by match up.
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>>160298928
>There's no stabilizing against sword.
Someone hasn't played Control Sword and shit all over their non-Control Sword brethren.
>>160299000
>The Conflagration v Themis shit again
Different classes have different strengths and weaknesses. Dragon is not designed as a control class, thus they do not get the best board clear. Conflagration is also a basic card, while Themis' is a gold.
Conflgration is also designed with ramp in mind, since Dragon's fatties will be able to survive it.
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>>160298949
thanks
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>>160298992
its ok im not a systematic anti reddit fag
>>160299015
thanks both of you, ill keep it in case. I dont hate any classes, I try to build in parallel as many decks as I can
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>>160298850
See, tigers are good with sun. Also they work to protect Unica who is a powerhouse in the deck, and one of the two things that don't get ward.

I meant more sacred plea though. Either way it's extremely common that I get to ten orbs and then just play two seraphs/healing/priestesses/curate&snek for five or ten turns until they run out of answers and one of them gets to finally fucking attack, because there isn't space on the board to play anything else.

Admittedly it also makes follower amulets useless late game, because the space occuppied by it could be spent on not dying, so I guess you have a point.
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>>160299109
It was at A0, I just assumed he didn't have anything to play on T3.
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>>160298004
Congrats Anon, I fuckin' suck at take 2
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>>160298180
They are one of my favorite classes to play. People here mostly use Aggro Sword and Blood so they constantly whine about Haven.

Haven is a very versatile class that has three (each with their own variants) ways to play it right now. My personal favorite is Seraph as I like having a Yugioh tier win condition. Elana can be fun, but I don't enjoy playing that kind of deck in a game where aggro just sends constant burn spells and storms to your face. It isn't rewarding and you never actually feel in control.

Storm is really powerful though it relies a lot on Garuda being such an overpowered card so I personally think it is the least reliable of the three in the long run (by that I mean Garuda might get nerfed and there goes a huge power point of the deck). On the flip side I doubt they'll do anything about Seraph or Elana and even if they did Haven has a bunch of defensive (Guardian Sun) themed cards that don't see play right now, but easily could down the road.

I also just really like their cards. Amulets are a very unique concept for the game and the way you have to think ahead can be very rewarding. You will often have to choose between

>removal
>tempo follower
amulet

with no immediately obvious best choice. That usually requires trying to read your opponent's deck and hand and making informed decisions on what you think the match will look like a few turns from now. It's a lot of fun especially as Seraph since you're often living on the edge.

Be warned that I am at A1 rank right now and Rune might be tied with Sword and Blood as the most seen classes for me at this rank. Rune really gives Haven a hard time right now. Storm can often burst her down first, but being able to bounce amulets back to hand and/or petrify them is really damaging for Haven. If you are Seraph and opt not to play cards, Rune will still usually Dshift before you can make it to Turn 9, or they will petrify Seraph and remove your win condition for just three mana.
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rip
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>>160298308
>sword player who constantly spams the threads with images of people rage quitting
>makes sweeping generalizations every time

please just fuck off. you've done this shit for at least a month and no one cares
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can someone concede onegai

59289
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>>160299241
Only retarded people put elana on the board exactly on T3.

Not only you can't combo yet but also give away your strat so the enemy can push your shit harder knowing you're going to healscum.
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>>160299430
>not the havenguy that keeps spamming him beating shitters causing that other guy to say "mom get the camera" anytime he posts
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concede pls
37629
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>>160298308
>go up against decks that take a long time to win (if they do) and are very defensive
>lose against a class that just clicks cards that can be clicked, go face, and end turn

Why do you think? Losing to Sword is the shittiest feeling in this game.
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>>160299593
thanks senpai

how do you spam emote so fast?
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>>160298780
Shadow have literally no good 4-drop against Haven, especially if you go first. Playful and Unleasher just get insta-banished, Phantom Howl sucks to play on turn 4.

If they could print this card, it would solve that problem and more:

Nether Bringer
6PP
4/4
Fanfare: Summon your followers that were banished during this match until your area is full.

A big fuck you to Cudgel, makes your Phantom Howl on turn 4 viable and not a desperation attempt.
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>>160299681
thanks!
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>>160299720
If you hold down on the leader icon it keeps showing the emotes, just spam click them rather than clicking once.
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>>160298543
It works by just making an Elana deck and having a few Seraphs tucked into it. It is used as a win condition against control decks, but as an Elana based deck you'll probably still lose anyway.

I honestly don't like the hybrids. I think both Seraph and Elana already have a hard time fitting into the 40 card requirement because there are so many useful cards for them. Trying to come somewhere in between is awkward. Also, adding more cards for Prism Priestess to draw is not a good thing.

I have lost many matches even as dedicated Seraph because I couldn't draw Seraph by turn eight. It's even worse with the Hybrid. Also, you usually win with Elana by having them concede or bursting them down turn eight or nine so I'd honestly rather play Seraph anyway.

Only thing about Seraph that sucks is that Petrification hard counters it, much harder than Odin. It's rare for decks to run Odin and even rarer for them to run more than one, but you can always bet as Haven against Rune they have Petrification in hand just waiting.
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gotta love getting destroyed on the first match

should I even bother with the rest of this or just concede every game for my free pack?
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>>160299874
I agree about the hybrids. When I played the Hybrid I just felt myself either wishing I was just playing Elana or wishing I was just playing Seraph, because the split between the cards meant I was never fully on either side when I really wanted to be. I don't get the hype.
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>need to play ranked for score rewards cardback
>put pressure on myself to win in ranked so much so that it isnt fun, even though i have an easily-above 50% win rate

How do i break myself of this? All I end up doing is playing meme decks in casual anymore.
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>>160300076
There's no reason not to try, even winning one game will net you better rewards, and if you can win at least 3 you'll have made a net profit.
>>
Can someone concede?
15772
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>>160300076
Keep trying since at least 1 win is better than nothing
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>>160298928
I think you mean no stabilizing against Storm Haven.
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>>160300076
Don't give up anon! \o/
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>>160300224
Thanks dude.
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>>160299334
>Storm is really powerful though it relies a lot on Garuda being such an overpowered card

Not really. Garuda is fantastic, and obviously ridiculous, but the deck does not rely on it so much that it'd be dead if Garuda was nerfed.
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>>160300076
Luna wanted to go in an adventure you'll be letting her down if you give up early
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>>160300076
Keep trying anon, you can still win the next 4!
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>>160300415
Np.
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>play healhaven
>don't even care about winning just want to make the match take as long as possible
Decked out a runecraft a few nights ago, it was great.
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>>160300076
I was like youand i did my best to make this positive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-WHW-QNswE
>>
why the fuck doesn't it show my shadows on screen for PtP when I've seen it on everyone else's?
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>>160300441
Yeah, Garuda is great for keeping up your massive tempo swing on top of 'random 3 to face ;)', but it's ultimately the synergy of Aria with stuff like Cudgel or turn 3 Dogma giving you that tempo swing to begin with that makes the deck shine.
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>>160300536

kys
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>>160300568
Are you clicking on your deck?
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>>160300076
I've had a lot of 4-1 arenas that started with a loss.

Keep going.
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>>160300202
>>160300239
>>160300334
>>160300447
>>160300456
>>160300545

yeahhh uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>160300536
find the nearest pineapple and shove it up your ass
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>>160300821
Play later when you done bein' a bitch nigga.
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>>160300821
If you make it 0-5 at least you did the best
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>>160300821
What's your decklist?
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>>160300821
Why are you guys so bad at Arena? It's not that damn hard.
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>>160300821
3 more chances anon you can do it I believe in you \o/
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I mean, I heard people were saying this game is weeby Hearthstone but it is literally weeby Hearthstone, dafuq?
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>>160300821
Keep on truckin anon.
Also post deck.
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Just did pick-two and got destroyed 4 times in a row from fucking bullshit perfect decks. How can you guys keep being motivated by the arena RNG?
>>
>>160300967
By not being on the receiving end
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>>160300821
There's still 3-2
You can do it!
>>
>>160300947
Hearthstone is the normie downgrade for brainless people MtG
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If they don't kill forest and haven next expansion I'm quitting

I mad
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>>160300821
Luna is trash. TRASH!
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>>160300821
>losing more than 1 game with Luna
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>>160300821

some faggot with a gabriel, melrin and a rimewind returned my mordecai to my hand
>>
>>160301449
>>160301449
>>160301449
>>160301449
NEw thread
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>>160301395
ur trash dude just quit

You can do it anon 2 more chances I STILL BELIEVE IN YOU \o/
>>
>>160301395
Anon nothing is worst than losing to a rogue's creed sword that actually played stealth minions I couldn't deal with in take two
Where's that decklist
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>>160301395
Anon when you're on a losing streak you take a break.
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>>160301521
it actually works
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>>160301727
That looks neat. What legendaries do I need for that, aside of Tsubaki?
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>>160299618
It's completely matchup and game dependent. If you just cleared their best early game follower with Scripture the turn prior and they have no threats on the board, you can slap down Elana early as it opens up your plays later on. When you have Cudgel in hand you often times couldn't care less about developing a small follower that would at best trade awkwardly where Cudgel would have just banished.

Of course if you're behind and they have total board control, throwing down an amulet that does nothing is a terrible idea.
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>>160299776
I hope this never comes out. Shadow is already obnoxious in all non Haven matchups because of the constant storm ghosts. Having a card that has a lasting body and just summons even more storm ghosts would be extremely stupid. Part of the reason Shadow gets so little sympathy is because it can completely destroy a lot of other classes.

When I think of fighting against Shadow, I think of them never having a single follower stick for a turn, but still winning because they have so much burst damage from Turn 5-8.
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>>160300079
I mean generally speaking hybrids in games like this are always weaker than the extremes. You will never have all good matchups (unless the deck is really overpowered). Hybrids often try to compensate for the weaknesses of the deck, but they end up usually diluting their strengths. You'd rather stomp harder in the games you win than potentially lose what should be a favorable matchup. Since the goal is to sit at a little over 50% win rate, it makes sense to me to just embrace the extremes.
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>>160300441
It relies on it enough that I don't see why people would keep running it over the other two Haven variants if Garuda was nerfed. It's still a strong deck without him, but he often times is what is needed to win unless the matchup is really favorable for you.

Anytime there is an amulet up, dropping Garuda is 5-6 damage without touching evolve or Urd. It's incredibly powerful.
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>>160275675
she's a win more card
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My friend is making a forest tempo deck, tell me what you think of it: https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/1?hash=1.1.5zvAY.5zvAY.5zvAY.61jJY.61jJY.61jJY.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k32.61k32.61k32.5zvAi.5zvAi.5zvAi.61jJs.61jJs.61jJs.61oCC.61oCC.61oCC.65cLM.65cLM.65cLM.5zvvQ.5zvvQ.5zvvQ.61lmu.61lmu.61lmu.61Pni.61Pni.61Pni.659nE.659nE.659nE.65cL2.65cL2.65cL2.61oCW
(He is aware he doesn't have any Anceint Elves or Tias, he can't afford them yet)
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