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Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

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the multi-class hero we deserve edition

>What's new?
Two new heroes, Varian and Ragnaros announced at Blizzcon, along with a new brawl map and a couple of new skins.

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20327398/new-heroes-and-more-announced-at-blizzcon-2016-11-4-2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4900jOY8cCM

>Varian spotlight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef_JyPJskGo

>Latest patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20324866/balance-update-october-10-25-2016

>Upcoming patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20352063

>/hotsg/ sekrit klub
https://discord.gg/fahsA

>Where do I find you gazlowe picking faggots?
/join /vg/

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked. It's not worth it.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

Previously on /hotsg/: >>160064082
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I want to impregnate Auriel while Varian impregnates my boypussy.
No homo
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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KINKY
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The server of BattleNet are down?
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OUR ENEMY. IS DUST.
WE ARE. THE STORM.
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>>160261729
>no varian in the OP
well fuck me sideways you retarded shit
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>>160262000
varian is ugly and generic
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>>160262110
What IS the deal with his uggo face? He looked fine in the cinematic with Ragnaros and in the WoW ones. In HotS he looks like a drunk uncle.
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>>160262208
This game needs more uncle heroes.
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>>160262361
Hanzo is different, he's a hot uncle. He also looks really different without the beard, with it he doesn't looks Japanese at all but without it he's at least 99% HONORABU
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>when you don't own a single of the nexus challenge heroes
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>>160262480
>when you own all but zarya
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>>160262464
Young Hanzo looks super Japanese, he's just not hot.
Japanese people look REALLY good with grey streaked facial hair.
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>>160261729
jesus that's a shit OP
someone make actual new thread
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>>160262361
>tattoo
discusting
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IT'S UP
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>>160262480
I only get 2 new heroes. Blows.
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>>160261729
>no grubby in the OP
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>>160263595
what do you get if you already own some of them?
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>>160263595
I only get one, and it's the one hero I'm terribad at.
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>>160263556
>dat stormwind music
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>>160263614
Good.
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>>160263614
please don't revive this meme
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>>160263924
why not? haven't you checked his tierlist? its pretty good
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>>160263656
The rest? It is a promo for new players, not us morons with too much gold.

>>160263664
Ah well. I thought Khara was the support and excited. Stupid impulsive Auriel purchase as soon as she dropped to 10k.
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>>160264043
it's really not
there's so much "depends" going on it's just not reliable
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I can't believe I installed this thing just for the OW skin. I don't even play Genji.

Which of these three is more busted?
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>>160264918
currently Muradin
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>>160264918
Muradin is a god tier tank.

Jaina is a fantastic assassin but positioning is a big thing for her and you're new.

Tyrande is a healer with dps potential, not good for a noob.
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>>160264918
Muradin is the best in general.
Tyrande takes a bit more skill, know-how and good teammates.
Jaina is situational.
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>>160264918
Tyrande is the most fun but the hardest to play even at an okay level, Jaina is a great assassin and Muradin is a great tank.
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>>160265040
>>160265185
>>160265207
>>160265698
Muradin it is. I played the second tutorial with him and he's really fun. I wish Zarya wasn't so expensive, though

Anything I should know? Any free heroes recommended?
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Gucci I still dream about you man. You came into my life and everything became so beautiful.

Keep that pussy tight my American dream boat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guG9cVs3ms4
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>>160265854
Free heroes rotate every week and are selected from the entire roster. So, play all of them, see if you like any.
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>>160265854
If you are on EU click this:
https://battle.net/recruit/5BHSS6NNM9
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http://www.hotslogs.com/Sitewide/HeroDetails?Hero=Medivh

Why is Guardian of Tirisfal the fucking worst talent in the tree? That shit is nuts and it's got a way lower WR than the others.
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>Sonya will never pop wrath of the berserker and then ram her beautiful gigantic cock in your anus while she spanks you furiously and calls you a little pussy until you are about to faint from the pure pleasure and then flip you over and force her massive cock in your throat and start face fucking you while you have trouble breathing and then cum gallons of semen down your throat while Tracer is crying and masturbating in the corner watching you.
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>>160266009
I'm on BR
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Hi guys sorry to intrude in your general.
I am only interested in the genji skin and will probably leave you alone after i get it.
Do we have an ETA on the EU server updates?
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>>160266135
I-I'm sorry, I couldn't know...
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>>160265854
All the free heroes this week are pretty fun. Maybe not so much Chromie if you're new because she can't really contribute to objectives aside from killing dudes. Alarak is my favorite dude ever, he's also pretty complicated but you can do well enough just pushing people into your silence. Azmodan is really, really fun too but he's more of a pushing guy than a fighting guy.

>>160266054
It's the only spell that doesn't help your team. Level 20 any character can instantly clear out minions on a much shorter cooldown than arcane rift. I guess people take it from behind hoping to hold off the fort but Medivh isn't any good playing from behind in the first place.
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>>160264918
hold the fucking phone
what the fuck is this?
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BLIZZ SERVERS DO IT AGAIN
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>>160266135
HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
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>>160266054
>>160266538
This. Guardian of Tirisfal is taken only when you're already losing.
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>>160266590
They've changed the tutorials, AFAIK. Now you can play them not only with Raynor but with Mura, Jaina and Tyrande too, to get a grip on all the basic roles. Then you get to take one of them for free.
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>>160265854
Just check them out, no one gives a fuck in AI games and your first 150 games in general have noob protection hiding you from big bad bullies.

The shop has a "Try" option you can use to check out a hero, play around with talents and get a feel for them, but personally I'd recommend just going in on free rotation heroes.

Easy to pilot heroes are

>Assassin
Raynor (Point and Click)
Valla (Advanced Point and Click)
Li-Ming (long range huge damage)

>Support
Li-Li (never stop pressing Q)
St. Morales (literally Mercy)

>Specialist
Zagara (use abilities then go away if something looks at you)

>Tank
Muradin (disengage for 10 seconds and you've regenerated all your life)

>Bruiser
Sonya (straightforward healthy frontline damage)

>>160266348
03:00 CET
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>>160266590
New players get one of these as a free hero now
Honestly not even having ONE FREE HERO was always baffling to me. Even if it was Raynor
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>>160266802
2k heroes might as well be free since you're getting smothered in 10k gold in your first few days anyway.
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>Monk Iron Fists + Way of a Hundred Fits.

Holy shit that is fucking stupid. He goes from doing good damage to being a fucking wrecking ball.
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>dont play in like 2 years
>come back
>am still the most elite

when will you noobs learn to play
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>>160266953
i'd like to see that elite account of yours, anon
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>>160267080
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>leoric nerf for no real reason other than "dont worry ur getting more changes later ;)
What's the fucking point?
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>>160267261
>elite as in 1% of the autistic playerbase
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>>160267325
They did the same thing to Gul'dan when they nerfed his corruption talent. We know he's got a low win rate, but we don't like everyone is picking his shitty talents, so we are nerfing his good talent.
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post leoric memes pleease
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>>160266789
>Valla
>Advanced

kekekekekekeekk
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>>160267261
>lying on the internet
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>>160266789
>all of my most played heroes are ez mode
every time
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Can someone from EU throw me a recruit a friend link?
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>>160267926
Paul shall suffer?
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>>160268404
https://battle.net/recruit/B2G7MHTCC6
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>>160268404
https://battle.net/recruit/5BHSS6NNM9
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>>160268764
>>160268789
ty senpai
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>>160268764
I want to FUCK Galko
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>>160267463
Even if they nerf Corruption AGAIN, it will always be the choice talent at Level 1, just because it fucking doubles your damage output.
The only way to make another talent viable is to lower the required stacks by 10 and moving Echoed Corruption to an altogether different talent tier like Level 4, OR to fucking make Fel Flame a non-meme build ala:

Quest: Each time Fel Flame hits an enemy hero, increase its damage by 3, up to 150.

Quest Reward: Upon reaching 150 bonus damage, increase Fel Flames range by 10-20%
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>>160268910
I agree. I'm just saying, when they nerfed Corruption they did it to try and get the other talents being picked without buffing the actual shit talents. They don't understand why people take what they do and they think just slightly nerfing the good talent will give talent diversity.
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>>160268020
It IS advanced point and click, because as Raynor it's literally "right click, press W on cooldown, shoot Q at something engaging", with stutter stepping being about the skill ceiling.

Valla? Keeping Hatred stacks IS difficult and requires precision stutterstepping to function at all, her Q and W are more than just "press on cooldown" because they each have their own specific use of instant damage and are important to be off-cooldown when you need them, her Vault is an incredible movement option that allows chasing for kills AND dodging skillshots, something Raynor cannot do, making him less reactive and thus less skillful to use.
Her ults are incredibly hard to time, "Do I strafe right now and risk getting stunned? Can my teammates follow up on my Shadow Volley? Should I keep one instance to peel for myself or another squishy ally?" Nothing like that for Raynor. It's just "lol hyperion in the general direction", no skill.

Valla also has multiple distinct builds which each require training to use well, she's more flexible and knowing how to utilitize her talents and counter-talent the enemy team composition requires insight and a keen mind. With Raynor? Lol auto-attacks XDXDXD

>implying Valla isn't advanced to baby-tier Raynor
Yeah, right, you just got fucking schooled bitch. Now get the fuck out while I feel generous and let you off with just that.
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>Earthquake Thrall is pretty much a tank now.

It's hilarious how much sustain he has.
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>>160268902
lewd
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>>160266802
Is it only for new players?
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>>160269427
>doesn't damage non-heroic targets
BORING
I WANT TO BE AN UNKILLABLE CUNT AND CONTEST AN INFERNAL SHRINE SOLO
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>>160269597
I just did a game where I took every talent that gave me frost wolf resilience along with the triple hitting e. I pretty much would lose health and then instantly get it back and then pop earthquake.

So fucking stupid.
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>>160265854
You'll get Zarya for free soon enough.

>>160264918
How do you get this?
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>>160267325
Nerfing Marche of the Black King at that! Coolest sounding skill in the entire game but it always ruins your positioning and does less damage than the double skeletal swing talent. You can't take the level 20 version because 3% life/healing on hit and even if you do it's untalented version of life drain which does hardly any damage and people can ignore by moving half an inch out of your range.

>>160268910
They should attach the fel flame range/width to the globe talent because it's really not worth getting close to cast it when it costs 75 mana a shot and bankrupts you in a couple of hits. Hell, make it a King's Quest talent where 20 globes gets you the mana reduction, 40 hits gives you increased width, and damage is increased by minion kills or seige damage.
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so, did leaks say which hero comes after ragnaros?
I've been out for a while
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>>160270056
zul'jin
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>>160270056
Zul'jin and Valeera apparently.
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>>160270091
>valeera

source me fag
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>>160270091
Even more Warcraft ones?
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>>160267080

here it is

>>160267261
wasnt me

>tfw mmr still up there with mate who was TL grand master rank 1 this season

for all you plebs that dont know who the russian king of hots is youi should gedonmylevel kids
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>alarak buffed
>abathur nerfed
>leoric's useless ult nerfed so it's even more useless
what the fuck is blizzard even doing?
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>>160269746

Varian pretty much counters you with his healing debuff. Xul as well.
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>>160269915
The problem with that is, I would still take corruption. His whole kit feels like it revolves around Corruption.

If they really want to make people stop taking it they should bump it up another 5 or 10 stacks and make it baseline. Because that's the only way it's not going to be the best unless you nerf corruption like crazy.
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>>160270079
>>160270091
source?
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>>160270129
You'll have to take my word for it and see what February brings us.

>>160270175
Well there'll be a Dehaka (and Diablo) rework in the next patch so I guess that's something.
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>>160270274
>using march of the bronze king

HAHAHAHAHAH
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>>160270056
man, i would like to nerf this...
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>>160270251
>remember the days
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>>160270282
Lvl 16 and lvl 20. In a one on one scenario I might be fucked but in a team fight I'll be fine. Besides at lvl 20 Earthquake also gives you shit loads of shields.

Also your forgetting Thrall also does some insane damage.
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>>160270314
anon, do you think I would ever lie to you? after all we've been through together...?
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>>160270251
>Reddit

Kill yourself my man.
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>>160270314
There was one leak that actually brought up Gingerbread Nazeebo and he had Valeera on his list of characters.

Zul'jin they pretty much confirmed at Blizzcon when someone asked about trolls in the game.
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>>160270454
>he wasnt on hots when there was only 2 people in /vg/ chat

pleb
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>>160270346
B-but Icyveins recommends that and the guide is written by a grandmaster!
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>>160270610
>There wasn't any people
>So I went to Reddit instead of trying to build up the community

Kill yourself my man.
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>>160269424
youre not even wrong but at the end of the day just being in a safe range and dodging cc is really all that matters on both of those heroes
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>>160270678
The difference between March and Tomb is that Tomb wins games, March is easier. Don't suck.
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>>160270678
>icy veins
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>>160270803
>Tomb wins games
>ETC, Muradin, Valla, Li Ming, Illidan, Samuro, Tyrael
>commonly picked strong comp heroes all have escape skills
No.
>Malfurion has no escape skills!
Yeah, but if he's close enough for you to Tomb, you've probably eaten a silence or will get focused the fuck down for being too deep in.

Tomb gives you the illusion of being good while it's actually shit and your March is pretty much a dynamic re-entry after ghostwalking out.
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>Valeera before Maiev
I'm starting to unironically hate Blizzard.
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>>160271135
>wtf blizz dont care about my meme waifu? i hate blizz now :(
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>>160271120
>Entombing the tank/warrior
yeaaaah man...... i think the point is turning the fight into a 5v4 for your team. not wiping their team out all at once like in your bronze games.
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>>160270446
actually yes
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>>160271227
>original and core wc3 char
>meme
How new
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>>160271327
>core

she was part of one expansion and she was never popular

deal with it memer
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>>160271375
>original and core wc3 char
>meme
We can keep doing this.

Bonus,
>I don't like it therefore it's a meme
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>>160271135
Watch. Your. Back.
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>>160271304
Just take my word for it I guess, it's all we have right now.
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>>160271434
You can keep memeing? Good for you.
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>>160270772

>is new
>is jelly of oldfags

get on my level >>160270408
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>>160271327
I think they want a Rogue in the game and Valeera has that Hearthstone Popularity. I wanted Edwin.
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>>160271247
>implying I'm bronze
Quickmatch forever, haven't done a single ranked. I'm a Schrödinger Grandmaster because you just can't know, and neither can I :)
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>>160271441
I'd watch her back if you know what I mean
I actually mean that I would like to have sex with her from behind
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>>160271563
hotslogs is your friend to give you some direction.

but i wouldn't be too hasty to comment on tactics and strategy if i were you
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>>160271120
entomb someone without escape
don't pick leoric if enemy has lots of escapes and solo tank
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>first time playing
>get matched vs a full team of lv 40 players
>autistically splitpush as muradin
>they have to send 4 people to try to get me (he's surprisingly slippery for a dorf)
>my team gets the dragon totem thing twice
>we win

Is the game this easy all the time
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Did anyone do the math yet? How much health can Varian regenerate if he goes full-on sustain?
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>>160271135
maiev has been in the game since 13 march 2014, which is day one
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>>160271748
it's about the mmr. level 40 is, what, 70 matches played? keep it up, anon.

>>160271793
enough to solo a boss at 16
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>>160271793
enough to solo bosses
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>>160271612
It's Canon on pretty much every fantasy world that elves prefer anal sex
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>>160271979
That would explain why elves have such a low birth rate...
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>>160271538
Well fuck you, we already got a HUMAN MALE right now!
It's time for diversity and we don't have a single Blood Elf female. After that we can get Moira for a female Dwarf Priest to complete the Ironforge Trifecta, Anduin for a human genderfluent bisexual priest for the LGBT audience it's been a while since Johanna, Vol'jin as a troll priest because we have no trolls yet, and maybe Sally Whitemane as priest because there's no strong independent yet beautiful and sexy female evil support yet.
There's no male humanoid undead support yet, so we could use Grand Apothecary Putress for that, with his robes he looks priesty enough.


Tyrande, Johanna and Sylvana skins don't count because they're just skins
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theres the fag again

sound the alarm
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They made an entire fucking panel at last years Blizzcon about how the hero silhouette and distinguishable looks are one of the most important things when deciding about the next hero. That was their excuse when people flooded the forums about Widowmaker skin,

But then they decide that for the WoW rogue they'll put Valeera instead of Garona. One is a major plot character and looks somewhat original. Another is a generic hot chick that people know of only because of Hearthstone.

Fuck, I'm mad
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>>160271530
>He thinks I'm a newfag

Toplel friendo.
Whatever makes you forget about the taste of Reddits cock in your mouth.

Kill yourself.
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>all these changes to my nigga zeratul

fuck my whole playstyle with him got ruined fuck you blizzard
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>>160261729
Anyone else having issues updating today? This fucking thing says it can't access some files even though everything is set to admin.
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>>160272765
yo wassup homes


>took me 2 weeks of playing to get rank 1 hl
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Lorewise who would win between Arthas and Leoric?
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>>160273002
Arthas. Leroic wasn't that strong to begin with.
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>>160272785
But it's important because Valeera is actually popular, belongs to the Varian/Rehgar/Broll (in spirit due to Malf's skin) group.
You can't leave her out and we NEED a non-meme rogue, because fucking nothing about Garona is important post WC1 and that's all that counts. You only think she matters because you're a movie cuck.
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>>160273002
Leoric. Arthas wasn't that strong to begin with.
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>>160273002
And. ArthasLeoric wasnt that strong to begin with.
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>>160273002
Arthas. Leoric wasn't strong that to begin with
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>>160273002
Lorewise. Between wasn't that strong to begin with.
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>>160272868

>because i saved 700 pictures of the same guy im not new

avatarnewfag
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>>160273050
Nah, movie Garona blows and probably helped the decision of not adding her. But I am a lore cuck and would rather have someone that was actually important to the history. Plus, Garona looks distinct, Valeera is just a generic babe that we have enough of already.
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>>160273002
Between. Strong that wasnt begin to lorewise with.
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>>160273002
the answer is ofcourse my peenus weanus :DDD
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>>160273002
Lorewise who would win between Leoric and Arthas?
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>>160273379
>implying knife ears, red attire and dual daggers aren't very unique
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>>160272868

post screenshot of ur highest achieved rank preseason pls
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>>160273050
Don't kid yourself that there are more than 5 people who know about Varian/Rehgar/Broll/Valeera adventures. Blizz is adding her ONLY because of her Hearthstone popularity.
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>>160273447
>>160273435
>>160273397
>>160273325
>>160273274
>>160273146
>>160273057
>>160273035
>>160273002
are we being raided by leddit again
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>>160273534

no are you new 4chan always abuise itself xDDDD
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>>160273534
No, I'm a local shitposter.
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>>160273529
>>160273534
>lumping my post in here

faggots
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>>160273653
Is the Overwatch Nexus Challange ready?
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>>160273478
>blonde hair, cute hood, barbiedoll body, naked hips
She's literally Jaina/Sylvanas crossed with Ming, but with knives instead of sticks.
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>>160273707
American yes, EU no.
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>>160273707
Yes.
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>>160273493
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>>160273718
But they are VERY unique you cuck, nothing has them in that combination :)
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>>160273776
>tfw they ruined uther and rehgar
fucking blizzard
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>khara rework isnt up on EU yet
>get an iron fist khara in my game anyway
>literally never ever uses W
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>>160272941
i don't know who you are or why you replied to me, seems like you made a mistake
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>>160273776

>thats not what i asked for

take a new screenshot right now, open up your game, go to statistics, set it to preseason and take a screenshot

oh wait, you're so new you didnt even play preseason...

hate avatar faggots, especially the ones that have been on 4chan for like a year and think they oldfags. get cancer.
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>>160274078

Kill yourself you fucking faggot.
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>>160274028

i dont know who you are or why u replied for me seems like u made the same mistakes as the other persons who did that mistakes
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>>160274261

post your team league stats
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>>160274594
Preseason, last season or this season?
Would you like me to do that with one eye closed while I sniff my middle finger?
Perhaps I can put on some yellow socks incase the socks I'm currently wearing are unacceptable?
Or maybe you have some other fucking request to make of me?
Fuck off faggot I'm done proving how much of a spacker you are for making dumbfuck assumptions.
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>>160274356
listen fag, you replied to a post that

1. wasnt posted as a reply to anyone
2. was meant for a flaming homosexual that posts in these threads frequently.

now, i know youre a flaming homo as well, but im referring to another poster, so go suckle on a dick somewhere
>>
>Play Greymane
>0 damage
>Slow as dicks
>Enemy was some super premade and couldn't do anything versus it.

>"Fuck ever playing that hero again, they'd have to give him for free if I ever have a chance at owning him."

>Nexus challenge

I'm still mad since I bought Li-Ming a month ago and now everyone's going to have her.
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>>160274878
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>>160274789
Do you have cute kneesocks?
Wear those please.
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>>160274847

its okay to be upset about the outcome but it is not okay to pretend the outcome is not what it was

>>160274789
>im done proving how much of a spacker you are

like this wasnt the most interesting thing to happen to you today.
>>
New player, what is the best site for builds?
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>>160275286
>I'm just going to keep making baseless assumptions

Kill yourself.
No really.
Just fucking go do it.
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>>160275307
go on hotslogs and see whats most picked
other than that go on hotslogs and look at professional players and what they build in HL

builds also depend on t
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yo anyone else need to party for nexus challenge? none my friends play this shit
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>>160275390
>im going to keep responding after i say im done responding

im fairly sure my assumption about this being the most interesting thing to happen to you today is spot fucking on
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>>160275524
Kill yourself.
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>>160275447
http://prntscr.com/d7plkf
also if ur wondering if im shit
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>>160275286
you just cant be stopped from sucking dick it seems.

okay, keep at it
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>>160274878
Everyone already has her.
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I have all supports except BW and Medic

I have enough gold for one of them.

Who should I buy?

I've been in too many moments in HL where Auriel and Malf are picked/banned and I'm on support duty
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>>160275913
Buy the big-money bundle that includes 30 days of stim, it comes with brightwing, then take Morales. Best $6 you ever spent.
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>>160275913
medic if you're a bronzie
otherwise bw because le global + sustain meta
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>>160276235
i'll check it out, ty
>>160276261
bw it is then, ty
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How accurate is this tier list?

http://www.tentonhammer.com/articles/heroes-of-the-storm-tier-list
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>>160276554
When I didn't saw alarak in tier S I closed it.
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>>160276554
lol
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>>160276554
>Butcher S Tier.
>Johanna better than ETC or Muradin.

I stopped reading it after that. So shit.
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>>160276554
OK that's either heavily outdated or just plain troll.

Go see the actual winrates from Hotslogs front page. Limit by masters.
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>>160276554
>malf
>"and a good heal Ultimate."
>jaina, kerrigan, johanna, butcher, sylv
>s
>sylvanas
>"two powerful ultimate abilities"
>tychus
>"A Warrior buster that has begun to rise in popularity due to the improvements to Anub and Arthas"
>alarak, etc, mura
>a+
>>>>>>mura and etc not s
>anub
>"His Cocoon is still amazing but it's his ability to counter mages' that make him so good."
>cho, anub, dehaka
>a
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>160277449
This gets me every time...
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I bet Reddit's crying about how "OP" Varian is right now.

Don't be fooled or jewed. He's going to be nerfed into oblivion due to whiners. Plus you know, piss easy to land stun on low cooldown.


Heroes of the Snore, where you can't have fun unless it's ETC/Muradin/Li-Ming/Brightwing/Falstad.
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>>160277548
I created a fluttershy account to post possible new leakers in reddit ASAP.
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>>160267261
That's my screenshot, Cyprux doesn't lurk. I also haven't seen him in a long time.
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>>160277686
are you saying that only those heroes you mentioned are fun?
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Tierlist.

Remember to upvote and subscribe.

>1
Muradin, E.T.C, Malfurion, Brightwing, Alarak, Li-Ming, Tychus, Valla
>2
Falstad, Gul'dan, Kerrigan, Lunara, Samuro, Thrall, Tyrael, Chen, Dehaka, Johanna, Rexxar, Zarya, Auriel, Tassadar, Sgt. Hammer, Sylvanas
>3
Greymane, Illidan, Jaina, Kael'thas, Butcher, Tracer, Zeratul, Leoric, Arthas, Sonya, Tyrande, Uther, Kharazim, Morales, Lili, Abathur, Azmodan, Medivh, Vikings, Xul, Nazeboo, Zagara
>4
Chromie, Nova, Cho'gall, Raynor, Anub'arak, Diablo, Artanis, Stitches, Rehgar, Gazlowe
>5
Murky

Source: my ass
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>>160277876

Well yes, since you can play them without

>being trolled (unless it's by your team)
>being a stereotype (NOVA BAD, ILLIDAN PLAYERS ARE ALL ASSHOLES, FUCKING GAZLOWE REALLY)
>Being useless overall
>Being nerfed into uselessness without a severe tidal-wave of change on what gets used next being nerfed into oblivion too
>Being Murky

>>160278058

>Tier 1
>Tychus

How do people even play him, PARTICULARLY over Valla or Li-Ming?
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>>160277686
I'm more worried about his shield destroying talent honestly.
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>>160278058
Your ass is pretty solid. Bump Alarak down, Zeratul up. Hammer and Zarya down.
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>>160278346
Tychus is one of the highest damaging characters in the game. Is great vs high health targets and has the most health out of any ranged assassin.

Valla is more consistent damage with extremely low health and Li Ming has better burst while Tychus sits in the middle.
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>>160278417

This.

>Active works at range.
K

>It has a passive.
K
>That works on every auto-attack
NOT OK

Pay to win mode currently activated. IGNORE THIS HERO UNTIL HE GETS STOMPED BENEATH ETC/MURADIN

>>160277686

Falstad is way fun bro, can't argue there.
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>>160278058
this is a really good list
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what chars are kill now?
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>>160278745
Anything that relies on shields. They managed to kill the reworked Artanis before they even released him. Impressive. Johanna's indestructible talent gets fucked by Shattering throw as well.
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>>160278529

Valla and Li-Ming I see do work against everybody.

Tychus is either up against bad players, or is WAY WAY WAY ahead in levels whenever he does well, even in the rare tournament picks he gets infrequently. I don't get the secret on how to absolutely deal damage as Tychus
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>>160278965
I personally like Johannas lv20 getting wrecked.
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>>160269424
>This much autism just because someone disagreed with you
>On the internet

>you just got fucking schooled bitch. Now get the fuck out while I feel generous and let you off with just that.

This goes to a cringy thread
>>
Does anyone know what Varian's interactions with Rehgar are, yet?
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>>160279013
He gets picked in tournaments all the fucking time. He's one of the most frequently picked assassins, because he straight up ass fucks Muradin and Muradin is in every game.
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>>160279206
"I... Miss your knot, brother."
"And I will always miss You, Lo'gosh."
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>>160279032
That's nice, but her trait is dead now to.
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>>160279582
I mean I love counterplay in moba games.

What's varians counter again?
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>>160264918
Can old players get to pick a free hero also? Is it only for new accounts?
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>>160279804
Well you can ban him before the other team can take him. Massive stuns is the only other thing I can think of. The sustain he can get and the damage he can do is kind of insane.
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>>160278346
But Nova is bad, she is a selfish baiter on the team

Illidan players are shitters for most of the time

Gazlowe is shit

Stop acting like a pussy you hipster

What are you? a faggot or some shit like that? The only Nova I trust is myself because I can consistenly put on big numbers, and even so, I rarely pick her
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>>160280008
We got gold
>>
Fair and Balanced.

https://clips.twitch tv/cavalierguest/ProudMuleMVGame
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If Varian taunts someone is that for auto attacks only? Could I still use abilities on other targets?
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>>160280834
you can't do anything, you just stand there hitting him until its over
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>>160280834
>Could I still use abilities on other targets?
no, you cant even use them on him
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>>160280834
It's like a mind control, but you just auto attack him.
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>>160280956
>>160280959
>>160281096
Oh wow, that's way more powerful than I thought it would be
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>>160280545
I haven't completed the tutorial.
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>>160279484
Yeah, I figured this would be the only kind of response I'd get.
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>>160281209
What's worst if you are channeling something it cancels it. LiLi juggs, sorry you have to attack Varian now. Nazeebo Spirit please attack Varian. If you Cleanse Varian before he walks into Mosh it cancels that.
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Anyone want to add me as a friend for some quick match? You can remove me when we're done, I just want nexus challenge credit. I've got varian.
Stormcloud23#1435
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>>160278745
Kharazim as a viable healer
>>
why is haunted mines relegated to a map who should not be named?
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>>160282853
Because Sylvannas exists
Seriously she breaks that map so hard it's not even funny. There is no way to win vs Sylv there unless the person playing her is a complete moron
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>>160278058

>nazeebo tier 3
>raynor tier 4

lmaoing my rofl off to be honest
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>>160282853
Unless both teams had Sylvanas, it was a one-way stomp. Split-pushing or pushing with the golem, she was unstoppable.

I mean, we know two lane maps can still work with Sylvanas, as Battlefield of Eternity suffers nothing like that, but there was just something about Haunted Mines that made it so much easier.
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>>160282942

Why don't they just make her unpickable on that map?
And how is she more broken on mines than the diablo maps?
Sorry I'm bad and new.
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Holy shit I just saw they removed Cleanse and Circle of Life from Kharazim. What the fuck

>>160283276
Because the Golem comes back at where he died initially,so you could just say fuck it and push one lane indefinetely. BoE the Immortal always goes to the least pushed lane and IS the Punisher is "random"

Also a good golem(70+ skulls) would be enough to push down a keep the first time. So catapults at the 6 min mark and then it's just a snowball
>>
I came back to this game for the quest but holy shit if I ever play again I'm just going to play a shitload of Chromie

>BASEBALL
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>>160283497

damn
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>>160283072
What do you mean? Seems good to me. t EU GM 2800 games played
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FOUND MY FUCKING ROLE

>tfw always tried to be melee assassin god
>never did much unless they were nubs
>play a game of muradin
>leaping on shitters left and right and protecting my team while they kill shit
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>>160283072
sounds about right
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>>160283497
He now gets a Cleanse when using his Q on someone, and I forgot what replaced Circle of Life.
>>
>>160285664
everyone does well on muradin
>>
>twin blades + the lifesteal talent
>mfw

I literally can't die
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>>160285664
>>160286430
Yeah, Muradin was the first hero I instantly clicked with and destroyed as. He's so fucking straightforward and effective in what he does.

Which sums up every "top pick". Straightforward, bland as shit, but effective.
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>>160286917
Where's the "Valla is advanced" guy now?
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>>160271538
I am Edwin VanCleef, and I'm here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? "No," says the man in Stormwind, "it belongs to the Crown." "No," says the man in Cathedral Square, "it belongs to the Light." "No," says the man in Old Town, "it belongs to everyone." I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... The Deadmines.
>>
Can someone add me? Need a "friend" to do this challenge.
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>>160287240
>You will never be a part of the Brotherhood
>>
>>160284216

Literally every GM i talk to thinks Raynor is better than Nazeebo but ok. Sure it's just one of them EPIC coincidences in the pleb tier /vg/ generals again.
>>
I have 65k gold. I can't decide whether to buy Varian now or not.
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>>160287296
join the /vg/ channel
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>>160287472
>buying a hero at 15k

Do you even jew
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>>160287709
not him but i did it with samuro

ill do it with varian and ragnaros as well

i WONT do it when they release a shit hero again
>>
Which hero scales with the highest health in the game?
>>
>>160288403
Aside from Cho'gall of course, I would say Diablo, I believe.
>>
>>160287472
>there are people in this thread even at this very moment who have less than 150k gold
Do they even play this game?
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How is Arthas in the current meta? Did I make a mistake in buying him as my first non-welfare Hero?
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>>160288939
Well, being positive, the only way for Arthas in the meta is up.
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>You can walk in the death zone with W

lmao
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>>160285664
>>160286430
>>160286917
>muradin before the rework
>every shitter who picked him used e as engage and died
>>
>>160289183
I just wanted to complete the set, since I got Anub'Arak as my welfare hero.
>>
>>160289063
this isn't pokemon anon
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>>160289545
s-shut up
>>
only if you give me your friend code
>>
>>160289545
>>160289565
I'm a pokemon tho
>>
>>160288886
I stopped playing for months. So, I haven't consistently, no.
>>
>>160289187
Even without the talent at level 4?
>>
>>160289845
Yes it count was basic attacks.
>>
How come the discord link in the OP doesn't work?
>>
>>160289838
Admittedly so did I, almost a year. I regret every missed daily quest.

>>160289998
It's not a link.
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>>160289715
This is for NA

https://battle.net/recruit/5SPPZXRHF6
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>>160287043
>Easy to pilot heroes
>Advanced Point and Click
he didn't say valla was hard to play. he said she's the second easiest after raynor.
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>>160290175
>Jessica F.
LONDON
O
N
D
O
N
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>>160289845
>Varian level 4 talents

What the fuck are those anyway. TWO (2) choices : a parry upgrade OR god mode.

Yeah I wonder what people will pick blizz
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>>160290493
I thought the charge talent and the protection talent were at 4?
>>
tfw I actually have no friends online who want to play HotS

In my time of need..
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>>160291157
Play a game and just add the best player there. Or play with me if you're decent enough. <3
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>>160283126
The golem spawned where it left off, so it would spawn by the fucking keep if it got that far.

They made it completely different now.
>>
>>160288403
Stitches
>>
so, I just installed HoTS today but every time i click play it gives me a blank screen and teh game won't start. I tried to muse the option scan and repair but says it works. Any suggestions?
>>
>it's another "patch fucks up the game" episode
this time it randomly crashes, anyone else getting that?
>>
>>160293328
Nvidia?
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>>160293328
Post specs (graphics card, OS).
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>>160293613
AMD
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>>160293787
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>>160293328
1. Launch the NVIDIA Control Panel (should be an NV icon in the systray, the control panel is in the context menu if you right-click it)
2. Select the "3D Settings/Manage 3D settings" task
3. Change either Global Settings -or- Program Settings for the game client (Play.exe with the Heroes logo, you may have to browse to it) as follows:
Antialiasing - Mode = Application-controlled
4. Hit Apply, then close the NVIDIA Control Panel
5. Start Heroes of the Storm

googled and this is the first that came up dunno if it applies to you but its something
>>
>>160293945
Try launching with the 32 bit client by enabling it through the settings, looking at your OS of choice.
>>
why does blizzard hate EU?
>>
>>160294535
meme region
>>
>>160294535
Shittier players need a headstart.
>>
>>160295064
git gud
>>
>>160295064
what a rude dude you are
>>
>>160295224
fucking brutal
>>
>>160295064
Overwatch babies everybody!
>>
>>160295428
Reassuring us all once again, that Genji players are the fucking worst, ill-tempered babies.
>>
sooo there are a lot of girls playing
are they hot?
>>
>>160295674
Like a wildfire.
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>>160295515
It actually all fucking makes sense if you think about what type of character that is. Fucking hell, mate.
>>
>>160295064
>Literally THE worst game I have ever played online
but you played overwatch
>>
>>160295745
Genji players are literally the Nova players of Overwatch
>>
>>160296005
個人的ではない
>>
>varian is basically a way stronger butcher / sonya
thanks blizzard
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>>160296271
Don't compare my husbando to diablo trash ever again!
>>
>>160296271
I was thinking Arthas, but you're indeed right. Crazy power creep.
>>
>we need the ugliest human character imaginable
>say no more family
>>160296349
>>
>>160296598
no more family
>>
>>160296598
no more senpai
>>
>>160296271
I'm sad because I don't give a shit about twin blade. I just want to play tank.
>>
>>160295064
You don't have to play anything man
>>
>queue up with randos to farm AI
>have to listen to literal bronzies tell me how they think the fastest way to win is
>>
>>160296792
Then play a tank. Not Varian.
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>>160296941
I know, right, cutie?
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>>160296946
He looks cool though. And protection on a basic ability and taunt seem awesome.

But there's no point in buying this guy since that build is clearly bad in comparison to the rest of the options and Twin Blade is just more of the same.

Johanna and ETC get boring.
>>
>>160296792
PROT BROS WW@


(arms are ok too)
>>
>>160296792
Play tank then? He is a high tier tank.
>>
Any cuck heroes?
>>
>>160298701
kaeltas
>>
>>160298701
arthas
raynor
illidan
>>
>>160298701
arthas
rexxar likes to watch misha
probably xul, that creepy old fuck
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>>160298701
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>>160298894
>>160298927
you retards arthas was the bull.
>>
>>160293328
I had the same problem and this >>160294038 worked for me. Turn off overlay softwares (FPS count, etc.) just in case.
>>
>>160298927
Xul is a total bro, he isn't creepy at all.
>>
>>160299050
not when it comes to the relationship between him and nerzhul
>>
>>160298894
HEY MAN
>>
>>160299195
>his will bended nerzhul and created a new identity

you're a retard who know shit about lore
>>
>>160299424
a fucking paladin of light gets his mind and soul eaten by a spirit of a dead warlock, making him betray his loved ones

that happened before whatever later fanfiction was written by whoever writes lore for garbage that is wow, that you gobble up
>>
>>160299653
>eaten

you're so retard you can't even understand the garbage lore lmao
>>
>>160298701
I think only kael'thas and Illidan
>>
>>160299653
His souls was stolen by Frostmourne, which also linked him to The Lich King, which was at the time an empowered and tortuted Ner'zhul
They merged when he went to Icecrown and put on the Helm and Armor Ner'zhul was bound in, within a block of ice from the twisting nether
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>>160299715
fantastic response

i especially like how you cling onto wording when you can't even spell retarded
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>>160299895
fanstastic respone retard

i especially like how you don't know retard is a word
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>>160299982
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>>160300105
Hahahaha oh anon you're not even trying anymore :P
>>
>>160295064
>tfw even tho I play this game I agree 100% with you

Anyone saying otherwise is just a Blizz turd assblasted
>>
So now the go to for monk is iron fists and way of the hundred fists with the healing spirit?
>>
>>160300326
Why do you play ?
>>
>>160300548
Fuck the healing spirit. Healing wards were never good.
>>
>>160300610
Then what to pick at 4?
>>
>>160300561
To be ironic?
>>
>>160300731
I've been having sucess with the block one
>>
>>160300731
I think, in my opinion the healing ally is the worst of the wards, on most comps against some comps anyway. You're underestimating the earth ally if you'd ever consider having 2% of your teammates hp back for 10 seconds. While the ward spirit lasts for 40 seconds and you get two.
>>
>>160300561
Because I have hopes it get better?

Stop being a millenial cuckid who thinks you can only enjoy things if you don't criticize it, this game is flawed as fuck, only being a delusional cunt to not see it
>>
>>160301150
>get assblasted after getting asked a question
>start spouting millenial

Jesus you're sad.
>>
>>160301656
And yet here on 4chan there's thousands of other carbon copies of him.

What a shithole this place is.
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>>160301656
>Contributes in nothing to discussion
>''You look at the word you used, you clearly have nothing to say because of your vocabullary''

Literally, plebbiturd

neck yourself f@m
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>>160301798
it's no more of a shithole than anywhere else

at least here people are honest about being huge fuckwangs
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Should I buy dehaka, tyreal, medivh, or slut bear's master skin?
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>>160301656
>You used a buzzword therefore you're wrong

That guy maybe was a idiot, but you are fucking retarded
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>>160301962
>millenial
>cuck
>plebbit

I see you are a true 4channer, all these buzzword really make me realize I am talking to a veteran poster

I hope one day. I too will spend my time playing a game I hate
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>>160302401
Stop being a alabama nigger and get a better skin for your waifu, she actually has good looking ones

>tfw being Sylv boy the only skins I have are heroic ( pukes ) and pre-curse
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>>160302438
if someone on this site uses the word millennial derogatorily they're either idiots or the biggest losers on the website
the oldest millennials are in their mid-30s so either they don't know what it means or are unironically 40 year olds on 4chan
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>>160301150
This guy is right, the game is fucking awful if you want to play it competitively you may as well play LoL or Dota however the game is alright if you play is casually and just mess around with friends from time to time, with how far the game has come since Alpha it has promise to eventually be alright in a year or so.

On a side note since the game is a complete joke and blizzard knows this they can do fun and whacky characters like Ragnaros and Cho'gall.
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>>160302401
Why not this one?
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>>160302532
>Still missing the point
>Hating =/= Criticizing it

Stop playing, read a book you retard

No, I don't care if you are 12yo, read a fucking book
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>>160302401
leave
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>can't stop picking medivh

SEND HELP
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>>160303304
I think you are missing the point, since the original post is not "criticizing" the game, but downright shitting on every aspect of it, just a full on hate post.

I was just curious how someone could actually play this game if that was is opinion of it
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Free Tyrande from Tutorials! Value. Worked out when I picked Naz over her during the giveaway.
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>>160303891
>Free Tyrande from Tutorials!
Is this new?
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>>160303369
>teammate in a rough spot
>place perfect portal for him to escape through
>walk right past it and ultimately die
>"wtf no shield"
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>>160302145
Not exactly, a lot of people are fake here for the sole purpose of venting or "fitting in", all that shit. But I guess you could say this place is as fake as anywhere else in that regard, so I'll give you that.
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>>160303983
Yeah. Completely revamped tutorials plus a free hero that you get from Muradin, Jaina or Tyrande.

It has some amusing moments, like using your owl to see how they scripted the AIs movement.
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EU UP WHEN?
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>>160304760
I just finish both tutorials and they didn't give me tyrande.

Feels bad man.
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>your varian gets twin blade
>theirs get collosus smash

fuck this game
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>>160305554
You know twin blades is better right?
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EU PATCH HIT JUST NOW SERVERS STILL DEAD
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So, my prediction was Varian was going to be stupidly OP, then nerfed, or just shit from the start

I haven't played it, so answer me, which path of my prediction was right?
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I downloaded hots and did the tutorial and it said it was gonna give me a free hero, but I clicked later and now I just don't get one?
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>>160305938
OP my man
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>>160305503
Hm. I did that too. I don't know what the fuck. Is it broken?

>>160305938
The fucking Hi-yaaa shit is pissing me off.
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>>160305637
not even close. unless you play in games with no cc
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>>160303369
>playing 5s with friends, nonstop picking medivh
>switch to team ranked because free exp
>"you guys cool if I keep playing medivh?"
>3 yeahs
>1 guy: "nah nothing against you man I just feel like Medivh is useless"
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>>160306247
At least he was nice.
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>>160306247
It's weird how they'd release Medivh, he basically has no place in this game right now. They said they converted him from a full blown support in the very last moments of development. Now he's a vision-getting portal chunking pile of garbage.
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>>160306126
yes
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>>160305554
>tfw all you wanted from varian was another solo tank
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>>160306962
Can you stop bitching so much? He can solo tank faggot, learn to play.
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>>160306962
I do not see how Varian couldn't possibly solo tank.
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>Tfw they didn't went for the crazy dark Medivh
>Tfw they didn't went for young, competitive, full of ambitions Medivh
>Tfw they went with old fag Medivh
>On top of that, they made him a half-assed support
>Not even a full-support
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>>160307094
i made one post you cuck, untrigger yourself

>>160307293
haven't even played him, just heard from all the bronzies that he can't solo tank
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Did they updated the engine or optimized the graphics?
It looks better on my toaster with the same settings as usual

Also
>No easter egg again
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>>160307094
Not until lvl 10 tho
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>>160307829
No.

I miss easter eggs.
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>>160307829
>>160308138
I just spent like 5 minutes clicking on shit. Sad.
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>>160308605
Is there a slurping noise at least like with Samuro?
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>>160307829
They seem to have made some graphical improvments. At the very least the fort/tower rubbles look a lot more detailed to me...prob because of Rag
Also the minimap has a much lighter blue and red color on the structures now

Yeah fuck no Easter Egg
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>>160307829
Well, it fucking lagged out two of my games, so there's that.
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So what is the best Varian build?
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>>160309035
Depend of your comp.
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>>160309035
Doesn't matter what you do, you pick the stun at lvl 4 and the resistant banner at lvl 13
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>>160309286

yeah but is the Q at lvl 1 good for even more cc or do the others work out more favorably
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>>160309369
As a tank, I'm thinking the Q quest is going to be better, unless you're all good on the CC. Then either of the other two are fine.
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>>160309369
If you go tanking,yes. The 3 quest talent is good if you go Twin Blades,because you get 60aa damage and since you have insane attack speed you get mad value. Don't know about the other talent,it seems a little weak
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>>160309539

30 hits on an 8 second cd might take a while though
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So how insanely OP is Varian?
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Using only the free characters, what do you guys assume to be the fatest way for me and a friend to clear 15 matches for Genji? So far we've been using Azmodan and using All Shall Burn plus another DPS. anything faster?
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>>160310458
Not too much. Depends
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>>160310510
vs AI?
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>>160310536
Vs AI yeah. So far all our games take 8-12 minutes and we wanna know how to go faster
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>>160310589
I would suggest playing vs AI with another ppl as team, you should win in like 6 min.
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>>160310458
He is just right. Totally ~50% winrate material.
For the first time Blizzard did their job right
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>>160310589
Stop dicking around and it's doable in 4-5 minutes.
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>>160310589
Just set it to beginner, and 5 man mid. 4-5 mins with a bunch of ranged heroes.
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>>160310712
>>160310725
>>160310960
Thanks. Ill see if I can scrounge up 3 other guys for later.
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>>160311290
Ping the bots.
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New player here

The first three heroes I bought were: Big Red, DUAL WIELD and Corruption fetish

Did I do good? Who should I get next?
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>>160310458
his deeps specs are retardedly good
his tanking spec sucks
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>>160311351
>diablo
He is shit.

>dw
Illidan? He is good but since you're new you probably don;t know how to use him.

>corruption fetish
no idea who this is
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>>160311351
there are like 10 heroes who dual wield

play all free heroes, get the ones you like.
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Is it me or is Taste of Blood difficult to farm? I don't get anywhere near 250 stacks.
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>Two friends hit me up for the nexus challenge
>So ready
>They want to do real games
>Going to have 50 minute losses every fucking time until we get 15 done then they'll quit.

Fuck.

>>160310458

He's -really- good right now.

>Dual Blades
>HAS HEALTH ON HIT
>IS LITERALLY SAMURO WITHOUT ILLUSIONS, BUT WITH SURVIVABILITY

>Shieldbusting motherfucker regardless.
>EZ MODE Stun on call + gap closer shit you'd probably hear about from LoL

I don't want to get him until Blizzard leaves him the fuck alone. They got me with Samuro, but NOT THIS TIME.

I'm gonna fucking wait it out. He's so fucking good right now though. Ahhhhh
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>>160311351

>Corruption Fetish.

Gul'dan? My man.

>DUAL WIELD

This could be any number of fucking heroes, but I hope that's Valla and her crossbows of cheap 2k gold top tier DPS.

>Big Red

Kek, Diablo is the worst shit. He's like the god bodyblocker though.
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I don't give one single fuck about meta, what champion is the most fun to play?

This was much better than my LoL and Dota experience.
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>>160311627
>>160311770
>>160311635

Sorry lads, I meant Valla and Kerrigan

Is there a strict hero meta here like in League of cucks or can I just pick whatever the fuck as long as the team works?
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>>160311772
Nova, Zeratul, Varian, Tracer
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>>160311864
Valla and Kerrigan are high tier heroes bro.
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>>160311772

>what champion is the most fun to play?
>I don't give a single fuck about meta.

Murky, although if you aren't with friends, your team is going to judge you so fucking hard for picking that fucker. Still, slime>puff>octograb w.shark>slime for MAXIMUM DELETE on one unlucky fucker

Illidan is fun as fuck too but you'll become a toxic piece of predictably easily killed shit with his SUBMARINE OF A FUCKING KIT. Again, disregarding the meta. He's just IN YOUR FUCKING SHIT DIVE HARD MOTHERFUCKER
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>>160311864

>Valla
>Kerrigan

Good choices. TURN ON FUCKING SMART-CAST FOR KERRIGAN'S SKILLS FOR MAXIMUM COMBO POTENTIAL

Have fun!

>>160311772

>This was much better than my LoL and Dota experience.

Because matches don't last long enough for autism to fester, in most cases.
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>>160311772
You'll find that HotS is an easier pill to swallow when it comes to losses, it's faster, so that satisfaction of hitting your end-game power peak comes faster, and you'll see that people are even stupider than you think. When you cut out the need to sit around and farm a lane for gold and shit, oh my god are there a lot of stupid decisions to be made apparently.
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>>160311772
Depends on what you like to do.

Sonya's fury is fun and you get to kill people. Chen lets you bounce around while chugging booze. Kerrigan has her little minigames.
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I have 15k gold and these are the only heroes I have left to buy.

Which should I get? Varian seems cool but I don't wanna get cucked by nerfs.
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>>160312523
Arthas should be in everyone's catalog.
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>>160312523
>Which should I get? Varian seems cool but I don't wanna get cucked by nerfs.
Then don't buy Varian. They are going to nerf the shit out of his talents like mortal strike and warbringer.
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>>160312523
I find it more satisfying to buy two heroes than just one. Arthas and Nova are fun. Arthas can be tricky, but people underestimate him and bronzies flock to Nova for a reason because surprising motherfuckers with lasers is fun.
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On the subject of Arthas, I fucking love his Master skin, except his model still looks too... not-imposing, and his run animation is wacky as fuck as well.

I hope they decide to remodel him. I'll buy that Master in a heartbeat if they actually give him a more serious tone model and animation-wise.
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I find Dehakakkaka really fun to play, but how good is he? I would just throw the money at him were it not for the 10k investment.
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>Tfw returned to the game and almost bought Artanis right away because I used to want him back when I played often
>The new hero has the perfect counter to him

rip dreams
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>>160313278
he's one of the tier 2 warriors, great pick on maps where his global is strong like dshire, warhead junction and such. he's much better when he has another warrior with him, but he's getting some buffs soon to make him more appealing as a solo tank.
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>>160313227
I'm waiting until near the end of the event to do it in hopes that I'll have that Stimpak coincide with Zul'jin's release.

God I can't wait for him and that fucking Amani Bear. So excited.
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>>160313290

They're going to nerf the shit out of Varian. Blizzboards and Reddit which Blizzard goes to exclusively already bitching.

It won't last. Artanis will be fine..
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>>160313246
That's always been an issue with Arthas. First WC3, then WoW, now this. The bulky anatomy of Warcraft males plus even bulkier armor has always looked really weird if they're not meant to be stationary tanks like Uther.
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>>160312618
Not really, he is weak as fuck.
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>>160313497
You could always buy one of the bundles for a literally free stimpak.
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Quick Cast, or no Quick Cast?
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>>160313890
quick cast on almost everything

i turn it off for azmos Q so i can see the range, and alaraks W since quick cast doesnt work for it anyway and you might as well see the range
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>>160313890
Learn and master quick cast, you'll get an extra spell every 8 or so casts.
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Is diablo objectively the worst tank?
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>>160314258
Yep. And that fucking trait, ugh.
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>>160314258
He and Arthas.
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>>160314258
For me? Tyreal.

He's a great hero, but I'd rather not have him leading a group of four squishies
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>>160314258
Varian
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>>160314258
Absolutely. He needs 2 charges on his tackle and grab, or something. And the ability to either activate his trait's res bonus when you want it to take effect, or enable it as a button as you're ressed, so you can press and hold to make your res timer tick down faster as you spend souls to do it. This way you can salvage some by only spending half your souls, or something to that effect.
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>>160295064
Hey not cool faggot, we are supposed to be company partners.
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So who is this new human hero?
I never care of Wow, so don't know, is he important?
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>>160315158
Wait, Varian is from Warcraft?
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>>160315158
Pretty much tells you in-game. King of Stormwind, head of the Alliance.
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>>160315158
He was the high the king of the alliance, supreme commander and shit. He sacrificed himself to give the other alliance leaders a chance to scape.
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>>160315158
a fucking beast
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Artanis/Varian broship when?
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>>160315647
Never because Varian cucks Artanis's shields
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>>160315912
You know you can't attack your allies right?
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>>160315245
No idea what is Stormwind is, a city i guess, I only played wc3 and hearthstone.
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Varian is the best hero right now? I just wanna get this over with.
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>Mfw no friends
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>>160316217
Yeah, Stormwind is the capital city of the Humans, and essentially the Alliance as a whole considering he was the High King of the Alliance.

So he's a big character, which is why they're treating him a little special, being the first multi-class hero and looking to purposefully make him viable in almost every situation and whatnot.
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>>160316217
Stormwind is the last bastion of humanity in wow since the scourge and the legion raped the northern kingdoms, unlike the ungrateful northern cucks the alliance of stormwind is actually trying reconquer those cities.
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>>160316217
>I only played wc3 and hearthstone.

He is the warrior class legendary that draws minions
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>Everyone picks Illidan
>No counter

Nice game. Quick Match is garbage without him
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>Varian out
>pick Tychus in QM
>destroy all Varians

It's gonna be a fun week
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>>160317038
>YOU ARE NOT PREPARED
>use stasis ability
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>>160317370
The hunt? More like the cuck!
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Where are the new guy memes?
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More games are lost by trying to solo boss than won.

The more you know!
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>>160317738
Depend of the map.
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So.

What's the secret to make Alarak not shit?

>Land combos
>no damage
>NO DAMAGE EVER
>DISCORD DOES NOTHING
>COUNTER-STRIKE DOES NOTHING

I feel like nothing does fucking damage unless it's ranged in this shit
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>>160317882
Get your Q quest done in a timely fashion and git gud
>>
Troll hero
W H E N
H
E
N
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>>160316738
Best quests
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>>160317941
>>160317941

>Literally 3 times in a row Warhead Junction
>No one to attack after the first conflict.
>Enemy team is a 5man and just rolls us after one fight at the watchtower

Well, winning ain't possible. Improvement seems to not be, either.
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>>160318009
after ragnaros
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Is Varian a better Illidan?
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>>160318223
Well, yeah. 4Head Junction is hot garbo anyway, and especially for Alarak unless you can solo a lane and your team isn't a bunch of monkeys.
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>>160317882
They buffed his lightning pretty hard. Get the slowing lightning and enjoy your free wins.
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>>160318704

Well I can't win period. I'm the constant, and the enemy team being tryhard premades with 2 healers while my team has a tyrande that doesn't know what the fuck a heal is, is the other constant.

So...yeah. Might just give up and get my rocks off trolling. Might be perma-Murky time. If I'll never ever win regardless of choice, I might as well savor asshurt from people since it's 0% win rate.

>>160318857

Noted, if I ever bother picking this hero again.
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How come Murky has the highest estimated queue time despite being the least played hero outside of cho'gall?

Does blizzard hate the hero that much. That in addition to not giving him the buffs he's needed for over a year, they stealth nerf his queue times?
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So I gotta ask, why do Blizzard games have no decay for silencing?

I'm not gonna pretend to not be a massive asshole but it's really crazy to get silenced for two weeks because I was also an asshole 6 months ago (last time I was silenced).
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>Friend wants to play for the Challenge the Nexus event
>wants 1k jewgold from brawl
>que up for brawl
>lose first round ok whatever
>start second round
>11 and a half minutes in, temples still haven't activated
>fuck this we literally cannot win or lose because no surrender option
>alt f4
>DO YOU WAN TO REJOIN YOUR GAME IN PROGRESS
>no.
>literally no way to hit no

GEE THANKS BLIZZARD FUCK YOU TOO JESUS FUCKING SHIT BRAWL WAS A MISTAKE.
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>>160267261
>shows one type of portrait to the left and one other in the background to the right
You've done goof'd yourself anon.
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>>160319017
he most likely has special matchmaking rules like abathur
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Alright I bought Abathur.

What do I need to know?
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>>160313497
>Amani hero
WHEN
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>>160319423
Now you buy pajamthur
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>it's another "my teammate thinks he's hot shit and trash talks everyone as he contributes nothing" episode
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Is there another lost soul in here that needs a friend for the event? I'm on EU
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>>160317882
hes great at solo laning but its like

>you pull the guy in
>you use Q
>chunk him for a good bit
>watch him as he walks away

i wish there was more to him, he needs other people there to finish the job
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>optimized Tracer's auto attack

What did they mean by this?
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>>160319265
Yeah, that bug has been going around all day. Sorry, man.


That made me laugh though, thank god I haven't tried to play a Brawl today.
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>>160319428
You want an Amani hero? I got a surprise for ya now...

Sometime soon after Ragnaros is all we know.
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>>160319265
>>160321246
kek
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So what's his kit gonna be? The anticipation is killing me.
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>>160321728
Maybe he'll be like Dehaka and get a new arm at level 10?
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>>160321728
Looks like he has a stupid fucking axe arm in the original concept, so shit.
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>>160321728
No one ever said Metzen was a good artist
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>>160315158
All you need to know is that he's human and has a big dick
>>
Is there a reason I can't set the game to run in real fullscreen? No matter how much I try it refuses to run in true fullscreen. My computer isn't the best so the game runs like complete ass and I have no way of fixing it. What do I do?
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Move over, Illidan.

There's a new bitch for abathur hat in town.
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>>160323186
What do you mean it refuses? Does it crash or what?
Try 32bit.
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>>160324189
As in no matter what I select after I hit accept it is still windowed full screen. I can't make it true full screen. The game literally refuses to go full screen. I can't even play the game cause I have zero frames.
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>>160324285
Maybe something's preventing it.
You can try opening a ticket :^)
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>"don't worry, I'll be tank Varian"
>takes DPS spec
>only warrior on team

fuck this, insta ban from now on.
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>>160265945
I have his cell # if you want it.
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Is my nigga Kharazim any good now?
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>>160324285
Maybe try putting -dx9 in the additional command line on the blizzard game menu idk

Also deleting your documents/heroes of the storm's variables.txt (save it somewhere if you need it for reference)
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>>160325194
yee
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>>160323756
Don't bully Illidan, okay?
He's had a hard life.
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>>160321728
Zul'jin is gonna be mainly based on his WC2 looks, not WoW version; similarly to Gul'dan. He'll have a model based on a generic troll axethrower.

As for mechanics; troll stuff. Berserker (increase attack but get vulnerable on yourself), very high health regen to compesate for dmg yourself in the middle of fight, a net for CC and I think some kind of vision ability. So I guess you can say he'll be like a cross between Lunara, Raynor and Gul'dan
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>>160326586
Why make him Zul'Jin then?
It'd just give people an opportunity to bitch at blizzard for not representing WoW, because nobody knows about wc2 Zul'Jin.
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>>160276554
>Murky C tier
What do you mean? He's the best hero in the game.
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>>160326790
Because all the other important trolls are all shamans.
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>>160326956
Witch Doctor != Shaman
They fork into shamans and priests.
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Why is it that abathur is so fun?
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>>160327158
Sure, but they all are troll voodoo magick.
Zul'jin is the only one that can be straight up AA assassin. So with him they went for this way, and one of the others (Sen'jin, Vol'jin, Rokhan) we'll be a magick support
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>>160326586
I'm not disappointed. I like that they're going with the Troll regeneration thing.

Any word on ults?

Also, hoping for his future WoW self as a skin, but I dunno if they'd be able to. Fucking love his aesthetic from WoW.
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>>160327368
R1: chop your arm off, gain 120% attack damage
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someone have a renewed discord link?
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>>160326586
>>160327365
God I want a Troll Shaman, and I hope it's Rokhan. As a Troll Shaman main, all I need is a Troll Ele Shaman, and a rework for Thrall's bland as fuck talents, and I am so fucking set. Problem with Thrall is that he just doesn;'t feel like an Enhancement Shaman, but I blame that mostly on Windfury not really feeling like Windfury.
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>>160327973
>As a(...)
get out reddit
get out and don't return
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>>160328202
:-)
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That forged by fire trailer was hype as fuck too holy shit

We haven't had a trailer as hype as that one since the Kharazim one
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So, is Varian OP?
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>>160329250
the medivh one was breddy gud
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anyone wanna play 30 bot games with me
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>>160329534
you only need 15, overcuck
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>>160329561
i want the mount for hots
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>>160329603
why tho
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>>160329642
cos i want it
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holy shit tank Varian might actually be the most useless hero in the game. "multi-class" my ASS, this is another melee assassin with a bladed weapon like the 10 trillions we already have.
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>>160329679
Getting a group for something is the easiest thing in this game, how are people having trouble with this. Especially the NA servers, channels are full to the brim with people.
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>>160329686
>Varian is useless
Just like in the lore.
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>>160329686
Are you sure you/whomever wasn't just playing him wrong? I think he seems pretty fucking great as far as tanks go.

Also just realized Leakbro told us they were adding a new role to HotS, and here we are with the new Multi role. Neato.
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>>160331112
Yeah, I've noticed that too when they announced him.
Maybe they wanted to make Medivh multi-class between assassin and support. But probably it was from the start about Varian; he was in developement since... march(?)
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>>160331112
>weak base kit for tanking
>no talents to enhance tankiness
>no range on Taunt
>both assassin specs are infinitely better
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>>160331451
>no talents to enhance tankiness
>there's literally a talent that says "press W to become invulnerable"
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>>160331559
Do you expect Muradin with his ult level of tankiness?
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>>160331559
and that locks you out of the only hard CC you can get, which leaves your E useless for a tank.
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>>160331627
I didn't say that, I just said that there are talents that make him tankier
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>>160331727
Well, anyhow, warrior doesn't imply tank, look at Sonya for example.
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>>160331627
there's no point to playing "tanks" that aren't up there with Mura, ETC and Johanna.
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>>160331765
the warrior label is too broad, especially if you consider that they use it for matchmaking purposes in quick meme
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>>160287709
>wait two weeks, save 5000 gold

What is this sorcery?
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Soo, how is assassin monk?
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>>160288939
Arthas is average, mediocre, balanced.

If you pick him as a good counter or to fit your team people should be ok with that. As they should in QM.

If there is a better pick available or you first pick him in draft, people will likely be annoyed.
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>>160261729
FRIENDLY REMINDER:

Valeera will soon join the Nexus, there are some FACTS about her:

- she is a WOMAN.
- she is an elf.
- she mainly come because of HEARTHSTONE (RNG XD.)
- she is taking the rogue slot, THERE WONT BE ANOTHER ROGUE ON YEARS.
- she is easily the last of the 5 warcraft heroes on a row we'll have.
- She came (yeshh) before Maiev (never EVER.)
- she is fun and cute.

- YOU'll deal with all of this.

So yeah. In case your boipussy cannot deal with all these FACTS, there is an exercise that can help you. 3D print the model of WoW Ragnaros (because the hots one isn't super epik) and slowly, but steadily, insert him in your boipuccy. Everytime you feel like not dealing with it, go 1cm further, sooner or later, daddy Ragnaros will make you cum like the little bitch you are, and finally you'll deal with it. I promise.
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>>160332730
hearthstone was a mistake

edwin deserved better
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>>160305938

He is actually close to 50% winrate so far.

Actually a little under it. This may get better as people learn to play him better.
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>>160318972
I get that way a lot (feeling like I can never win unless the enemy team fucks up royally). Alarak took a while to click for me too.

The Lightning only heals if it hits an enemy hero. Don't waste it on mercs or minions. It is also not a skillshot, it targets something in range and hits everything in between. Alt Telekinesis pushes you in the direction you are facing (good for escapes). And don't use the Charge as an engage until the tank has engaged. You will blow up.
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>>160332730
>An absolute autist took the time to write this.
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>>160332825

>50% win rate

gee almost like if he's on both teams at all times then one varian is always going win

spaz
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>>160319218
I didn't know that! That's admittedly a bit BS. 6 months ago was forever ago.

Sorry. I guess all that can be said is you'll probably be better off not touching chat.
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>>160332730
Excellent post.
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>>160332876
stop embarassing yourself
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>>160332942

maybe you should take your own advice
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>>160327287
All global characters are fun. People actually thank you if you save their ass.
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>>160332995
reread this post >>160332876 and tell me that you are not joking
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>>160332795
>that new HS expansion
I cry every time.
How could they go from Old Gods to Memes of Gadgetzan...
>>160332730
>tfw no Edwin
Lapdog all of you.
>>
Snacks#1801

yes hello I need a partner for the nexus challenge thingy
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>>160332730

FUN & CUTE!!
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So how the fuck do I get the Genji skin?

Is it okay if I invite 1 random guy and play with 3 AI guys vs 5 AI guys?
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>>160335378
Right, "fun"...
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>>160335493
Yeah.
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Warbringer. 6 second CD gap closer that stuns for one second. Who thought this shit up?
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>>160335504
If you don't imagine Valeera to be fun as fuck I don't know what to tell you.
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>>160335828
Her class is a piece of shit to play in wow and hearthstone.
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>>160329686
Yeah hes pretty ass as a damage sponge and taunting kind of sucks, but as a tanky melee assassin hes literally OP broken AIDS
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>>160335912
>Her class is a piece of shit to play in hearthstone.
are you fucking dumb
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>>160335761
They'll probably remove that talent and just make the slow go on longer.
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>>160335493
don't forget to add him as a friend
>did the 30 games
>some dumbass didn't accept my friend request and realized that he didn't get anything after 5 matches
those 5 matches lasted 5 minutes max, but still, what an idiot
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>>160335761
Make the ability have a 6 second cd by default and have Warbringer increase the cd by 3 seconds to get the stun.
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>install this trash game for skin
>game based around team work since there is no mechanical skill anyways
>literally THE FIRST thing the games ask me if I want to mute all my team mates

Why the fuck thinks muting your team in this team cooperation based game is a good idea? Who thought this bullshit up? Who the fuck plays this?
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>>160337467
Was that the hint on the loading screen? I don't remember that message. Most people don't mute chat.

Plus, pings do the job without wasting time.
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>>160337608
It appears as soon as you load a game
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>>160337467
You never played a moba before, right?
I am being baited, right?
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>>160332876
> if Varian is on both teams
>of course winrate is about 50%

I'm talking about his ranked play winrate. In ranked each hero can only show up once. If one team gets Varian then the other team can't.
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>>160338172
I guess they could've stuck it in options, but there isn't much UI for a game by game option.

They just figured that's the easiest place to put it. Anyway, no one disables it, so don't throw a hissy fit over having the option.
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>monk's healing ally doesn't heal minions anymore
Why do all heroes who were recently released or reworked lack the ability to heal minions?
I'm waiting for Tyrael to lose the ability to shield minions at this point.
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>>160338607
It doesn't make sense for AOE, but I'm fine with them helping avoid misclicks on real abilities.

But fuck, so it actually is worse than Healing Ward? I always picked Shield when I played Monk. God, this rework sounds awful.
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>>160338563
Actually it is in the options, probably in the social tab.
The extra reminder is very much not welcome.
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>>160338807
The problem I have with new monk right now is that you have to make a hard choice, he is pretty much multi-class like varian.
If I go fist of the northstar, my healing output is almost non-existent, but if I go full healing I'm doing pretty much no damage
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>>160338807
>It doesn't make sense for AOE, but I'm fine with them helping avoid misclicks on real abilities.
I don't mind it, either, but they've recently tried very hard to move heroes out of this grey zone regarding their ability to affect minions' health.

>But fuck, so it actually is worse than Healing Ward?
I've attempted to use it to heal minions and saw no effect at all, so it does seem that way. The last time I tried, Healing Ward affected minions and healed them for rather negligible amounts of health, but health nonetheless.
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>>160339140
Was old monk not like that? I thought he rarely dealt serious damage except in situations where people underestimated his self healing and tried to 1v1 him despite not having sustain?

>>160338836
Wait, so does the "click here" disable for all matches or just that one game?
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>>160312618
i miss the alpha days where he was really fucking strong
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is samuro still okay after his nerfs? now that he's down to 10k i want to buy him as i love his design but i'm worried that he got nerf batted too hard
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>>160318627
varian makes all other melee assassins obsolete
he's gonna get nerfed to shit once he's 10k and people stop buying him for money
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When?
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>>160340325
Wait, that thing in the background on the right...
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>>160340619
A Pandaren (male)
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>>160339816
pls respond
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I need someone to play with for the Nexus challenge. I'm EU. tommytitan#2410
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>>160340923
He was only good when people didn't know to play around him. Not much has changed other than that.
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>>160341072
so he's still fine? aside from people being better at playing around his kit, that is
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>>160341176
Oh, he's considerably worse, sometimes played against so hard he feels close to useless. You could risk it, it should at least be quite a fun kit.
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>you gain and lose the same amount of rank points
How exactly are you supposed to climb the ranks with forced 50 in effect?
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>>160341585
>heh *casts Horrify*, nothing personnell... kid *Demonic Circles into home nexus*
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>>160341616
>still believe in the forced 50 myth
you belong in bronze
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>>160341834
>he doesn't think forced 50 is real when the signs are literally everywhere
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Is this a ded game?
>Blizzard forcing Overwatch players to play 15 games for a Genji skin
>Sponsored game on Twitch.tv
Reeks of desperation
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>>160341987
Define dead.

Probably yes.
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>>160341834
"forced 50" is just the match-making and it's a fact that's how it works. Instead of putting you against better players, it puts shit players on your team. In-game statistics show this, and so does hotdogs.
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>>160341987
>still can't get any viewers despite all of this

Yeah it's the deadest game there is. I wouldn't be surprised if wc3 is more active than this shit 3 years down the line.

>Khaldor left sc2, a dying game because it wasn't popular enough, to a game that is now even more dead

Top fucking kek.
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>get absolutely crushed
>lose 218 points
>win game simply because the enemy team fucked up
>gain 198 points
Blizzdrones will defend this.
Forced 50 is a myth and doesn't exist. Its all a conspiracy.
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>>160341470
"considerably worse" to the point where he's useless or simply more challenging to make a huge impact with?
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>>160341987

That's simple cross promotion they do with all their games that they should have done a long time ago.
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>>160343926
I guess so those go hand in hand. Comparable to Zeratul.
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>>160340325

Needs to be vikings/rexxar style or 'chogall, but not joined at the hip' hero with Mograine.
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>>160344204
sounds tough but not impossible
i'll probably buy him then
thanks anon
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>>160344324
Depends how deep in bronze you are of course.

Good luck!
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>tfw since monk release way of the hundred fists has been good
>tfw retards never realized this because they're under the mindset ARE YOU DOING HEALING OR DAMAGE? instead of going hybrid with healing ulti 100% of the time
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So what do you guys think of the Kharazim/Zeratul/Purple Jesus reworks?

I've only tried Khara so far, but I'm liking the new level 4 talents, admittedly having only so far tried the Earth Ally. Still not entirely sure what the point of Insight is meant to be though, since I find Khara to be about as mana friendly as most healers, if not more so due to having a small free heal every third strike if specced to support
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>>160344527
>solo healer
>he takes the damage ult
>we lose because he's camping a lane then comes into the teamfight after 3 of us are dead and ults
There are times to take and times to not take it.
I'd rather have a khara that lands good palms than good fists.
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>>160345148
you get too much value out of palm, it has been almost never worth getting fists
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Not getting the hang of Varian. I'm never close to top damage but the enemy team's Varian is. Any tips?
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>>160345576
Fists are amazing against Cho'Gall doe, possibly in a situation where the enemy team has one single tank as front line, but palm usually wins out
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>>160345796
pick fury
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>>160345796
Take q at 1 if you're tanking, otherwise take base damage quest.
Take stun at 4
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>varians that don't take stun
BUT WHY
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>>160345136
zeratul is really really fun
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Just how dead is this game? They are offering some massive rewards just to get people to play
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>>160347848
If you think about it they really aren't offering much at all. The inflated as fuck prices make it look like they are
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>
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>>160348136
a crapload of free heroes and bunch of skins AND a month worth of stims that is a lot compared to their previous offering which was like 1k for finishing tutorials and one week stim for reaching level 10
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>play HOTS to get free overwatch shit
>it's better than overwatch
wtf I hate overwatch now, why didn't you guys tell me this game was fun.
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>>160349172
>Someone else names their animoo faces like me
Here friend have my 54
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>I just wanna farm friend quest
>Invite random faggot who invites some niggerfaggot playing Varian
>niggerfaggot keeps interrupting queue for 5 man stack
>''muh max bonus XP!!!!!''
>mfw
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>get grandmaster
>too scared to keep queueing or else I might lose it
>every time I'm about to drop out I do another game
>win every single time
>decide fuck it today and go for a game despite having a healthy buffer
>win
>now too scared to queue again since I didn't play well and it felt like I was being carried
;I just want to play HL ;-;
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>>160349172
We did.
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I haven't played this shitty game since Xul came out, is he still good? Which ult is the way to go on him?
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>>160349548
Both ults are viable. He's good but very map-dependant.
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>>160349548
What do you mean -still- good?
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>>160349657
When he came out he had like a 55-60% winrate in comp, mostly because as it turned out his pure skellyman pushing build was actually broken. Is he shit now or something?
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>>160349172
>Mechanically handicapped game
>Blizz keeps pushing for a competitive market when its only competitive in a 5v5 scenario, a pug environment is shit, individual skill doesn't shine
>fun


Yea, either you have no drive, or soon you will lose your innocence

But you will keep coming back, because seeing famous Blizz characters going at each other thorats can be kinda fun, but lets not get too excited
>>
What's the deal with the new Zeratul? Is there a definitive talent path? And do I need to git gud with vorpal blade?
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So when is Raynor getting a Soldier: 76 skin?
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>>160350129
He kinda has that reaper sign on 3rd color if you have that skin without armor.
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>>160350059
One talent path.

vorpal>follow through>wormhole>VP>lifesteal>MWB>rewind
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>>160350480
that is Reaper, you could have actually bought that shirt from the blizzard store when they first announced Overwatch
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>>160349458
>Implying GM isn't easiest rank because most people there actually have a brain
>Giving this much of a shit about a virtual rank anyways

Stop being a cucktard, there is nothing more idiot than not playing afraid to lose your rank, in any game, ever, even pro players who make a living playing it don't give a single one about their ranks, why would you care?

>B-But muh approval!!!
If you win, you win, if you lose because you deserve it, you lose, you learn with your mistakes and get better

Such a negro thing, not playing because ''muh ranks'' its like that bronze/silver/gold/diamond/plat 1 not playing with someone of their ranks but 3+ because ''afraid of losing the promotion match''

Get fucking laid, if you gonna blogpost, at least try to post something interesting instead of beta cuckery shit
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>>160349458
just go to QM and bully baddies on medivh or whatever other hero that's really fun but you can't realistically play in HL

it's somewhat fun
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>>160349329
I like you
>>160349821
I really like the simplicity of it, the competitive meme is what turned me off of mobas because I'm a casual
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>>160351186
The filthy animeme poster is a filthy casual, what a surprise...
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Does anyone want to play 15 games with me? I'm already at 15/30 but all of my friends gave up after 15 because they only care about Overwatch stuff

EU QuadMachine#21693
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>>160351503
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>>160350585
Sounds good, though I think there could be some variance on 13, the shield sounds pretty good too. I guess it depends on if the comp you're against.

Sentenced to death on 16 seems pretty good too, I guess I should try them out.

Can't wait for people to rage at me for picking Zeratul
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>>160351186
Wanna date me? I'm incredibly lonely.
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>>160352384
uh
you don't get to bring friends
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>2v1 a Greymane and Artanis as Varian.

Fools thought they were winning by bringing me below 50% health. All they did was make me stronger.
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Can someone add me as a friend and play 15 games with me? I want that Genji skin.
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>>160348149
>immortal is a sneeze away from dying
>Enemies have to go through half the health
>Some die some back up to heal
>Our muradin tries to stop the enemies 1v3 instead of just hit the immortal once
>He dies
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>>160353280

>>160351630
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>>160353528
Cool. Just added you. I have some errands to do but I'll let you know when I wanna play.
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>>160352795
>constant stun
>crazy self sustain
>cucking artanis shields

I soloed tassadr, alarak and sonya yesterday.
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>Varian has better sustain
>Better damage
>Better stuns/roots
>Overall just better

It hurts.
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>>160265945
i believe in that you will be the first lad to get all heroes to 10 something i been working on myself you beautiful bastard
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>>160354494
>we will never have alpha arthas back
it hurts
>>
are the servers dead?
I cant play with my friend at all, whenever we form a party one of us can't hit "ready".
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>>160355341
go to shop and back
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>>160355506
doesnt do anything.
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>>160355608
relog you cuck
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>>160355725
first thing I tried, many times.
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>>160352384
>Cringy
>Needy
>Thinking someone would like to date you just because you share the same autistic way to save animu pics
>2016
>Being this much of a weeb-faggot loser


Read a book my fucking nigger
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>>160352491
those anime girls are not his friends
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>>160355949
Kill yourself.
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I dont think varian is OP tbqh
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>Play QM with a random for friend quest
>Gets paired up with 4 assasins ( he is one of them )
>Worst game of my life
>Not leaving because don't wanna waste time on infinite queue to play with leavers
>On 25min of match I got dc
>Have to play 2 games with leavers
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>>160356118
He's not op at all just compare him with samuro on launch..
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>>160356039
Look at the mirror, the guy you see is the one who needs to do a barrel roll
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>>160356023
don't worry
no charge for them
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>>160356314
they work for the otaku

the weeb-man
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>>160356039
>340
all my pics are yui
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>>160356234
Kill yourself.
Seriously stop trying so hard to get a sense of validation arguing with people on the internet.
Just kill yourself.
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>>160356413
moot?
get em on board I'll call it in
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>>160354494
You could say that about pretty much every melee hero.
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>>160356781
Amazing Nova ass
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>>160356842
Nova's ass is always amazing.
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>>160356576
this is fun
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>>160356940
The farts must be amazing.
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>>160356991
Probably smell like space strawberries.
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>>160356991
ffffuck offf fart fetishist
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>>160261729
None of my friends play this dead game.
I'm a decent player looking to do the friend quest Hypernova#1535
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>>160356781
soon brother
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>Malthael
>Multiclass (Melee/Ranged)
>Passive: Reaper of Souls (Use Souls instead of Mana. Slain minions drop 1 Soul, heroes drop 10. Can only carry 100 Souls at a time.)
>Q: Death Shroud (shroud a target area in darkness, slowing all enemies that pass through it. Also blocks enemy vision of target area from the outside.)
>Q can be enhanced with 3 level 1 talents, allowing it to either 1) Poison heroes, mercs, minions, and buildings caught within it, 2) Heal allies standing in it for 1% of their maximum HP every 2 seconds, or 3) Explode upon re-cast, dealing heavy area damage
>W: Death Approaches (Toggle on to receive +10% movement speed and be able to pass through all terrain. Unable to attack while active.)
>E: Maelstrom (Deal damage in an area around self and draw enemies towards you for 2.5 seconds. Every unique enemy hit heals you for 2% of your maximum health, up to 20%; also grants 2 Souls for every minion hit and 5 Souls for every minion killed while caught in Maelstrom)
>R1: Cultists (Summon a Cultist every 20 seconds. Cultists have 20% of Malthael's maximum health and automatically attack your basic attack targets with small area of effect spells that poision minions, mercs, and buildings. Only 2 Cultists may be active at once. Cultists last for 20 seconds and cost 20 Souls per Cultist summoned. Can be toggled on and off. PASSIVE: reduces attack speed by 25%. Basic attacks become long range projectiles)
>R2: Harvester (Channel for 0.5 seconds to curse one enemy hero. All healing effects and regeneration received by that hero are applied to you and nearby allies instead. Lasts for 3 seconds. PASSIVE: reduces attack damage by 25%. Health regeneration increased by 10 per second)
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>>160357182
>Thbbbbbrnt
>did you like that anon?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bzBSOaf8KWw
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>>160358453
melee and ranged are not classes
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>>160358453
>>Multiclass (Melee/Ranged)
That's not how it works,Anon
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>>160358628
>>160358641
I'm dumb, that's meant to say

>Multiclass Support/Specialist (Melee/Ranged)
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>>160358680
>Malthael
>Not assassin
You're not even trying
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Hots finally released!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPk004vsjuE
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>>160358994
There's already enough assassins in the game. We don't need more.
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>>160359028
doesn't change the fact that being anything but an assassin hardly fits Malthael's character
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>>160359025
yiss
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>>160359121
>>160359028
Yup. And it's not like we'll never get any more assassins. Malthael may not come soon, but he will be here and he will be either assassin or assassin/specialist
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New thread
>>160359546
>>160359546
>>160359546
>>160359546
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>>160356940

Why can nobody ever draw her eyes the right color.

They're green, not blue.
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>>160359573
it's 53 replies from bump limit
what the fuck are you doing
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>play fury Varian against 2 mages
>get destroyed whole game
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>>160359573
>700 posts
>better make a new thread

this is why trump is president you fuck
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>>160360994
How?
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>>160359573
>worthless shitter creating his thread literal fifty posts too early
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>>160361486
CC and burst damage
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>>160261729
Another new hero released completely broken so blizzard makes shekels, I'm done lads. This semen slurping, unbalanced shit fest just isn't for me
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>>160362484
Well, then the same can be said for almost any character that gets stuck between hard CC and burst damage
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>>160276261
Medic is extremely annoying if they're goid and draft well.
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>>160288403
Depends. Other than chogall az has the highest base health pool. Dibbles has the highest possible sans cho with his trait. Jo and stirches can talent into more health than az. Mura can ult into a bigger healthpool than them. If you're counting ults chens spiritts might compete for most health though idk.
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>>160364417
Some have escapes, others have more health. Fury Varian has a sub-second guard against auto-attacks unless you take the talent for it.
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Is that panda healer any good these days? Haven't used her in a long ass time, nor have I seen her.
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>>160371447
she saw better times
now that everything's getting power creeped hard she's kinda struggling
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>>160332730
Literally a hearthstone character.
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>>160332730
uninteresting obscure boring comic book character only known because of cardstone
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ded thred
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>fort is sitting at 5% HP for five minutes after I nearly solo it during a curse until I finally finish it off
>teammates continue to be split up and get picked off by the enemy, who's grouping up
I'm going to fucking cut myself.
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>>160383330
bump
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>>160391291
>>160391291

The other retard made the new thread too early and people moved there.
Just let this one die.
sage to avoid bumping
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>>160392647
what
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>>160394062
>>160359573
>>160359573
>>
>tripfag joins game
>hes edgy illidan
>gets mvp

opposite day?
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LUNARA
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>>160401343
IS
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>>160405524
furry!
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>>160408251
FUN
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Anyone else getting an error when trying to post?
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When I get home I'll post the screenshot but christ I played a game as li ming had top damage zero deaths but vall with 6 deaths less damage said I threw the game because I didn't do more damage and team mates agree that we lost because although I did most and ballad fed, I should have carried I swear to god
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>try out hots because of ow cross promotion
>pretty good actually
>mfw AI adept makes me anxious because they almost beat us
>mfw I don't know the optimum talent builds and just go for ability upgrades and never get those activated heals or passive blocks etc.
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What time do the dailies reset?
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>>160430317
EU or US?

>>160431502
depends on time zones desu
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Should I get medivh with 10k or should I get an anub master skin with it? I am level 8 with anub, but close to level 9, is it realistic that I would have another 10k by the time anub is level 10 (4 out of the 5 heroes I got with the nexus challenge are ones I haven't leveled yet.)
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>>160436103
medivh > anub master
in general i'd only consider master skins if you have an abundance of spare money
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ded af
>>
ded game
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This goddamn general wouldn't be so DED if it weren't for the SYS4CHANERROR orange window I get every-single-time.
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d e d
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d e a d
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>>160435045
Asia
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Can someone add me as a friend and play 15 games with me? I want the Oni Genji skin in Overwatch.
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>>160465325
Which region?
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>>160466169
US
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>>160466169
>>160466403
My username is PuppetMaster #12359
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Should I play this game just for waifu?
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