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>Regulation v1.22 patchnotes - Nov. 11th
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>Character Planner
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>DARK SOULS 3
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>DARK SOULS 2
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>DARK SOULS
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>DEMON'S SOULS
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>BLOODBORNE
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>KING'S FIELD
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>Community & Fanart
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First for not posting threads early you Lucifer wannabe
>>160237474
I read it as 765 instead of 705
I feel bad.
Why do I have this urge to play DaS2? The game sucks.
>>160237691
After all these years you've finally developed good taste
SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT DARK SOULS 2 OR I'M TELLING MOM YOU TOOK THE LAST COOKIE
>>160238170
It was not dark souls3
>>160238170
Best build variety of any game thanks to the infusion system.
>>160238170
Best magic schools
>>160238170
It was better than Dark Souls III
It had bonfire ascetics
It had the best pvp
It had the most viable builds
It had the best magic
It had weapons with unique movesets, instead of generic WAs
>>160238170
Every time I think of something good to say about DaS2 I'm reminded of all the stupid shit it introduced. I'll say this though, the best thing about DaS2 is that it actually tried to bring something new to the series. If the game was called something else than Dark Souls, I would have probably enjoyed it more.
>>160238793
>It had weapons with unique movesets
There are entire weapon classes that have the same moveset in Dark Souls 2.
I ain't saying DaS3's approach of "if this were any other game this sick attack would be an r2 but we're gonna make you two hand the weapon and tie it to a meter to use it" is any better but come on man.
>>160239397
>There are entire weapon classes that have the same moveset in Dark Souls 2.
And in DS3 that's the rule, not the exception.
>>160237007
>no pcfcgf
>>160239615
A real depressing feel.
One I know well
>>160239613
Honestly it's about even with DaS2 in terms of this issue. At the very least all the Black Knight weapons have their proper movesets in full as well as unique weapon arts, they should have been the model for the rest of the weapons, really.
Hell thrusting swords have the exact same problem between the games, where all but 2 have the same R2s, it's fucking dumb.
>Dark Souls 3 didn't make it so your two-handed L1 is an attack and not a shitty little block
imagine how far this would go to correct problems with lack of weapon variety. Thats a whole new button to work with.
Has anyone beaten Friede with a heavy weapon (GS, UGS, GA etc.)?
>>160240175
My blind run was with a Claymore and it was piss easy
>>160240175
I beat her around my 7th tome with a gs and my 3rd time another run using a millwood ace and great axe
>>160240175
BKGS.
>>160240175
Zwei on my 27-40 quality
>>160240175
Claymore was ez
>>160240251
>>160240407
>>160240442
>>160240480
So why do I see people in other places whine about how the fight is impossible without a fast weapon?
>>160240529
They probably lack any game sense that isn't hand held for them like how hyper armor isnt properly explained
>>160240175
Beat her with a pickaxe, went okay
>playing DS2 online for the first time
>messages and bloodstains everywhere. Constant stream of phantoms. Can see soapstone signs even at a really low level
>DS2 is significantly more active than DS1
I was meme'd. Why didnt you guys tell me?
HYYYYYAAAAA !
>>160238170
Zullie and Alva is qt
>>160240251
Greatswords are literally 3-4 frames slower then longswords post-DLC anon.
>>160237007
>t.claire
>the guy who says he'll start up his N64
>the shitty scythe ornstein
>black flame spam
>pcfcbf references
this image is spot fucking on, I love /dsg/
>>160241098
>tfw i started most of those memes
they make the threads seem more lively at least
>>160238170
The Desert Sorceresses satisfy my masked women fetish very well.
>>160237691
>>160238170
DS2 is the best game in the series
>>160241098
What's even the joke with Ornstein and the scythes?
Why does he have them and also a cape?
>>160240175
66 yhorms, shat on her.
How did we go from this?
>>160238793
>Most viable builds
Ring of Dexfag Supremacy and literal infinite combos alone invalidate this, unless you're actual going to argue that:
>CAESTUS USED DEX/STR AND THEREFORE WAS QUALITY WHEN IT INFINITE COMBO'D YOU
>THIS GREATSWORD USED MOSTLY STR THEREFORE WAS A STR BUILD WHEN IT INFINITE COMBO'D YOU
Is build variety then you are retarded. I've seen more actual builds (Miracle/Lightning characters, INT soulmass spammers, Pyromancers, STR and DEXfags, shield/spear pokers and Ultra hyperarmor users) in 3s arena than I EVER FUCKING DID in 2s arena. And that is a fact, not your shitty opinion. I haven't even mentioned SM which alone obliterates your argument.
Best PvP and Dark Souls 2 should never even be in the same fucking sentence.
kys
>>160241463
I assume it refers to the guy in AW body armor with the Ornstein head who CE'd the scythes in for the first FC after the pre-AoA patch went out who just R1 spammed the L2 stance.
And he still does it. In almost every FC. It's deeply annoying to play against. I'm at least assuming it's him, anyway.
>>160240175
Beat her with the Propane GS. Took me a good few hours to do.
>>160241551
To this?
So how well do the dlc sorceries work? I'm trying to create a frost build.
>>160241658
snap freeze is great, frozen weapon blows because it doesn't add AR.
Why do people harp on DaS2's Earthen Peak -> Iron Keep disconnect but praise BB's Astral Clocktower behind Ludwig's church when it's not visible at all from outside the church? Also climbing up a tower and leading to a gulf of an ocean?? Helllo?
>>160241736
bbfags
>>160241685
Interesting, does it tell you how much frost it adds? Is it just 33/34 or is it more?
>>160240175
I have a friend that beat her ng+7 with Yorm's. I called bullshit on NG+6, so he rushed back to her, summoned me, and made me watch.
>>160241736
Feel free to post this again when Earthen Peak and Iron Keep are both set in an actual nightmare realm where nothing makes sense at all on purpose.
One day... One day I'll fucking get the stupid black knight greatsword on the build where I actually want it.
>>160241736
Because rather than being a band aid for cut content they establish two things: 1. The nightmare/dream worlds in BB are unstable and don't make much physical sense and 2. They hint at the Hamlet being above the Hunter's Nightmare early on, on the way to get the Whirligig a snail-woman falls to her death in front of you with no place for her to come from above you.
The Earthen Peak -> Iron Keep disconnect was just cut content. Look at the CGI DaS2 trailer. You can see a grey, volcanic wasteland where the pro tag guy is fighting Manakinfags, with the mountain off in the distance. THIS was supposed to be how you reach Iron Keep, but was cut because DaS2 experienced some kind of dev hell.
>>160241736
I-IT'S A NIGHTMARE ANYTHING GOES!!!
>>160241857
>are both set in an actual nightmare realm where nothing makes sense at all on purpose.
I thought that's what Drangleic was supposed to be
>>160241736
Because shitting on ds2 is the "cool" thing to do even though many aspects of it are better than the other games.
>>160241891
>ShitSoulsTwo niggers being this deluded
>>160241902
Drangelic is just a shitty cursed place, exactly like Lordran.
The only reason anyone could even get this impression is because of retarded shit like Iron Keep.
>>160241951
>Miyazacucks drowning in this much jap cum
>>160241959
>Drangelic is just a shitty cursed place, exactly like Lordran.
Lordran, where time and space are fucked because of the breakdown of the first flame?
>>160241857
Drangelic is like Lothric where it's amalgamation of worlds passed. It's not suppose to be like Lordran which is an intact world.
>>160241959
Time is convoluted only works if it's a miyazaki game, then?
>>160241996
>Lordran, where time and space are fucked because of the breakdown of the first flame?
Yes, Lordran. The place where you can clearly see Dukes Archives from Anor Londo. Where you can see the forest from the Taurus Demon bridge.
Or, like Drangelic. Where you can see the massive statue above the Forest of Giants from most places on the map, or where you can see Heide's Tower of Flame from Majula.
Its almost like the Earthen Peak ---> Iron Keep fuckup was a mistake, and not in line with the rest of the games in the series? Its almost like the only reason people actually take time out of their day to defend it is to be contrarian Imagine that.
>>160242136
It's almost like DS2 was better at having its environment sell the idea that time and space was broken.
it was actually pretty fun
>He doesn't weaponskill greatshield + caestus now that it has fast as shit one handed speed
poising kick attempts and punching niggas with shield turtle bullying included
they can't even spam your greatshield for fear of sudden poise punch, anyone who tries to suddenly mash R1 gets deleted
>poor lil greatsword boi
top kek like I give a fuck shit nigga I have REAL POISE
>>160238170
The sheer amount of variety and freedom makes building characters so much fun despite its massive flaws.
>>160242181
You mean like in DaS3, where you actually saw the world warping and morphing towards the end? When characters in-game even started to mention it?
Or like in DaS2, where it happened once, was never talked about again, and no one acknowledges it happens almost like a mista-
Oh.
:^)
>>160242321
>Or like in DaS2, where it happened once, was never talked about again, and no one acknowledges it happens almost like a mista-
That's hardly the only disconnect in the game man. There's several places where you walk through a door or tunnel and seem to have teleported twenty miles.
>>160242321
>once
Shrine of Winter is a bright sunny day
Walk under the bridge to Drangelic castle and it's a stormy night.
But tell go ahead and raise the goal post and ask for another example.
>das3 world warping and morphing
when and where buddy?
>>160242321
>You mean like in DaS3, where you actually saw the world warping and morphing towards the end?
I'm a retard, but, what? When? Where?
>>160242460
>>160242454
it turned orange and big goatse in sky!!!! also the eyes ludleth plot plot
>>160242460
>>160242454
Not him but the area before you fight, where the dark Firelink and single bonfire is, and where you fight the Soul of Cinder, so pre-arena, have backdrops which are buildings and terrain mashed together. I'll go take a screenie.
>>160242520
>>160242460
>>160242454
Here. I'm surprised you guys didn't know, it was a huge thing back when the game came out since it was the first time the whole "The world is getting fucked up" became actually palpable.
>running into pickaxe guys
>laugh at them
>get deleted in 2 hits
>immediately try it out on my str build
>black flame onyx guys are suddenly ezmode
The pickaxe if you do it right is more OP than all the greatswords, 1 week from now every cunt is going to be using it after orofaggot makes a video as per fucking usual
look at this fucking shit
With the new poise changes in the latest patch, how much poise do you need for a Great Hammer to poise through all 2H Greatsword attacks?
>He invades
>>160242720
Works fine in DS2 on PC desu.
>>160242606
>>160242520
>>160242460
>>160242454
>>160242408
>DaS2fags haven't even beaten DaS3 and didn't see this
I'm in fucking tears holy shit
It explains so much
>The only people who like DaS2 are the ones who never beat DaS3 or probably DaS1
You know what? They probably never even beat DaS2 either, its the only way they could even enjoy that god awful fucking game
>>160242662
>he doesn't know
>>160242781
>I'm in fucking tears holy shit
Yeah we can tell.
>>160242720
I try, but these lazy gooks won't fix Dark Souls' multiplayer on steam and DSCM doesn't really carry the weight
>>160242781
There's no need to be rude anon I prefer 3 to 2
I'd just not noticed it
>>160242781
There is a different between a zone disconnect and an area made up of broken buildings and rubble.
DaS3's only example is the very last area of the game which spans 5 minutes of the total game.
>>160242858
And DaS2's only example is a fucking elevator which feels and looks like a big old "Oh fuck I forgot to connect these two levels" mistake by some lazy jap retards.
If I had to compare these two side by side i'd say DaS3 did it better.
how the fuck am I supposed to kill the 2 sullyvahn beasts at the aldritch faithful bonfire?
I know they are weak to bleed but they keep 1 shotting me before I can get them down to half health. even pulling 1 to do 1v1 its still impossible to kill because all it takes is a single lightning fast bite and im 1HKO
>>160242927
>And DaS2's only example
There's tons of examples and more than one have been pointed out to you.
>>160242935
Why did Lautrec like to kill Firekeepers?
>>160242927
koopa castle elevator is better than DS3's fucking "oops we forgot to have a transition from starting area to lothric castle, better just have the player teleport there" lamo
....I have never been so happy for a stupid drop in a game.
>>160242927
Earthen Peak -> Iron Keep
Shrine -> Drangelic Castle
Betwixt - > Majula
Majula -> Copse
Aldia's Keep -> Archdragon Peak
Drangelic Castle -> Shrine of Amana
>>160241584
>Ring of Dexfag Supremacy and literal infinite combos
Did you only play Dark Souls II in 2014 you stupid IIIcuck? Infinity combos are impossible now. Should I go around and judge the (still)awful pvp of III by how it was at release?
> I've seen more actual builds (Miracle/Lightning characters, INT soulmass spammers, Pyromancers, STR and DEXfags, shield/spear pokers and Ultra hyperarmor users) in 3s arena than I EVER FUCKING DID in 2s arena
Not only are you wrong(because what I see is CCS, Black Onyx, Valorheart and metashit), but the arena in II had way more variety.
It is amazing how much dissonance III fans can muster up.
Flynn's ring is only useful at lower levels, when you start getting into NG+ levels, armor absorption combined with vitality means that a low %load Flynn's build will be gimped in comparison to the competition.
>>160242935
Get good, faggot.
Yes, Pontiff Beasts are ridiculous. Their hitbox is fucking bullshit, being underneath them they'll interrupt everything you do.
Sword and board it and get a good sequence of attacks, then get lucky twice.
If you wear Slumbering Dragoncrest you can pull one at a time. If you kill just one it still won't come back, which makes it a lot easier.
You can bait them to the ladder and drop attack on them for a quarter of their health.
>>160243170
Dark Souls 3 has the most disgusting meta weapons of all the games with Gargoyle Flame Spear and Red Hilted Halberd.
>>160242190
Are you controlling aldrich?
>>160243129
>Earthen Peak -> Iron Keep
Could technically be categorized as distortion if you're reaching. Likely just a stupid design choice.
>Shrine -> Drangelic Castle
Hardly. The weather changes.
>Betwixt - > Majula
Clear physical connection, time of day changes and that's it.
>Majula -> Copse
I don't even remember this one.
>Aldia's Keep -> Archdragon Peak
Archdragon Peak isn't even in DS2. If you mean DRAGON AERIE then still bullshit because there's a fucking bridge connecting them.
>Drangelic Castle -> Shrine of Amana
How?
>>160243129
>Lists day/night time changes as the distortion of the world
>>160243170
>Lists infinite combos as a "release problem" with DaS2
W
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>>160243258
>Red Hilted
Are you literally complaining about a weapon that has the frightening upside of...pokes with good tracking? As a disgusting weapon? When DaS2 had 5hit GS combos? And the retarded Joker/Turtle chestpieces? I thought people ITT said DaS3s backstabs were too weak? What about DaS2 literally nullifying them?
What buffable halberds are good in both pve/pvp? Spears are also acceptable.
>>160243370
Gower's got nerfed, meanwhile DSIII combat is literally
*unzip parrying tool*
*hornet ring riposte*
*fish for a backstab*
*hornet ring backstab*
Critical modifying items are a mistake.
>>160243450
*unzip parrying tool*
*hornet ring riposte*
*fish for a backstab*
*hornet ring backstab*
1. Backstabs in 3 are not nearly good enough to pull off on anyone that isn't parry fishing
2. Parryfishing is invalidated by one of the many weapons that is unparriable. Unlike, say, a 5hit combo that relies only on where the tip of your fucking sword is.
>>160243050
CongratulationsRemember this post as you stomp, pancake and throw people into the air
>playing as a blue, get summoned
>find red, host nowhere to be soon
>red keeps emoting and walking up to me not attacking
>play along, he keeps showing his back to me and emoting
>figure he wants me to backstab him
>do it until he has 60 health
>he whips out a bloodlust and seppukus in front of me
RIP
Well hello there !
>>160242707
ultra weapons were nerfed further, there is no reason to use them now, their hyper armor starts so late that no amount of poise matters because anyone can stagger you right before the HA frames start
if you use an ultra anything you're going to lose to everyone but absolute, fresh out of high wall novices
>>160243028
Because he was a waifufag and obsessed with Fina
Like most Souls stuff it isn't really explained but he likely did it because her existence offended Fina in some way (or at least that's what he assumed)
Combat: Bloodborne is best
PvP: DaS2 is best
World Design: DaS1 is best, even with it's sub-par second half
OST: DaS3 is best (literally only thing good about the game 2bh)
Story: DaS2 is best
Lore: DeS is best.
What buffable halberds are good in both pve/pvp? Spears are also acceptable.
LF coop PC
DLC wolf
pw : dsg
at bonfire :3
>>160243752
All of them desu
>>160243028
Most fools have more humanity than they know what to do with. Now, who do you imagine will make the best use of it, hmm?
>>160243748
>Story: DaS2 is best
hold up nigga, DeS has the best story, and the best overall writing in general.
Those fucking fools on the outside
>>160243816
I'm a sucker for "everything you do is pointless and won't ever matter" story that DaS2 had.
>>160243789
Please summon me.
>mfw coming back to play the dlc after having a breaks for months
goddam I am going to have to start a new character I have forgotten everything about this game. Doesn't help I respecced my main to be a glass cannon either. It was for the sole purpose of invading before yorn, using the obscuring ring and casting soul stream down the narrow hallway to one shot the whole group at once.
>>160243789
Wolf Status: Bleeding
>>160243858
I dont know if it was you I summoned but the wolf is dead :3
Also thank you for the help!
>>160243998
it wasn't me
im worthless
not even random anon on dsg will summon me
why do i bother with such pitiful meaningless existence
What is a good light-weight weapon for pyros that isnt Onyx?
>>160244086
I G N O R A N T
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>>160244106
>using weapons as pyro
I mean you could just get good.
Still though witchs locks are choice.
>>160243998
It wasn't me but this isn't me either >>160244086 (he's not wrong though)
>>160241736
Because 99% of the people in this general are from reddit and they try really hard to agree with memes to fit in so they can post about it on reddit for upboats.
>>160244153
>>160244086
wait
if you werent summone
and i wasnt summone
who was phonetom?
im spooked holy fugk
>>160244131
HOW QUICKLY YOU FORGET
>>160244242
>the reaction image
okay
Did someone really just say that Backstabs were more nerfed in DaS2 than 3? Scrub detected, can you even roll catch someone rolling away from you with a backstab in DaS3? I don't think so. In fact being able to backstab someone rolling away from you might fix the fact that you can spam roll without any serious punishment in DaS3
heheheh
source: some chinese guy
>>160244357
*puts on jester suit
*laughs
>>160244423
It's a shame that his persona couldn't kill Havel
>mfw hidden body in brawls
This arena is made for it, its so fucking gray people actually don't notice me at times
>>160244483
>This arena is made for it, its so fucking gay people actually don't notice me at times
fixed that for you, bb~
>host gets stuck inside a tree at Anor Londo
>lol that's pretty funny
>well, okay, enough already
>attack
>two Aldrichs fucking rape me
>reinvade
>invade the exact same person, they're clearing out enemies
>so they killed me and then killed the host, like how fucking dare I
I'm at 27 of 39 vertebrae. I'm fucking screaming.
>>160244539
thanks bb
>>160244632
>39
Sorry, 29.
I've been holding off on playing DS3 for awhile.
Trying to play on PC now and getting crashes every so often.
Is there any way to identify whats causing the crash?
>invade lothric at SL12
>host has a pickaxe
nah fuck you
>>160244825
Just don't get hit mate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_GHD4cPEsQ
>>160245090
I would praise that sun.
>>160245090
>That head
Could actually be a FromSoft design
LF coop dragonslayer armor im waiting at fog fate
pw : dsg
:3
>>160245090
source?
>>160245591
ds1
Did Knight Lautrec get killed by the Chosen Undead, or did he disembowel himself after killing Ornstein and Smough, meeting Gwyndolin and realizing that Anor Londo was empty?
>>160245163
I cant even identify where the hell that is, or what the skip would accomplish. That is not explained.
>>160245743
It skips the screaming crows after the ice slide.
>>160240894
your silvers and fabrics clash please kys
>>160245632
thanks
>>160243853
but that's literally the story of every single Souls game. Aldia is almost like one of the writers decided to be cheeky and pointed out what a fucking cop out the cycle is but could only go with an equally stupid "durr explore beyond light and dark".
Also DS1 had the best music. I can't remember shit from 3 besides maybe Undead Legion and Betrayal and only Majula from 2.
Some of the most basic ass vaguely orchestra action shit around. Like their final boss is literally just ripping the clean piano from Gwyn and making sure some bitch goes "OOOAOOAHAHAHH" over it.
DS1 had that, but also really distinct shit like fucking Nito. Now that's how you use chanting.
>>160245456
Ill grab my NDS
What should my attunemet and intelligence levels be at for an int build?
>>160245770
Its a good speedrun skip, thats kinda cool. But id prefer to take the normal run through and grab the soul after the Corvian Knight than take the minute of time saver.
>>160246068
I was thinking of it as something to use on invasions. Like all those trickjumps in Darkroot.
>>160245931
>I can't remember shit from 3 besides maybe Undead Legion and Betrayal
I know what you mean, but don't tell me this shit didn't give you chills the first time.
https://youtu.be/TmccPPaRb3w
>dat stage 2 moment
>>160245668
Judging by where you find the body I'd guess the latter, if you killed him outright during the invasion he'd be in the main hall, or succumbed to his wounds next to a bonfire like Kirk did, instead he's up in the rafters slumped in a corner.
The CU stopping him before he could try to offer up the Firekeeper's soul probably didn't help though, crushed his poor little dreams of world domination right before the payoff.
>>160246060
10/40
spells suck
>>160245456
Ill start up my Atari
>>160246013
>>160246276
He probably killed the boss already thanks to his secret co-op bf.
>>160245931
>I can't remember shit from 3
I remember Pontiff's theme, as well as first phase and some of second phase NK's, Vordts, Dancers, and Angry Revolver Dad. 3 had MUCH better music than 2. 2 is the one where I can't remember dick except Pursuer's theme.
1s was shit though. Aside from O&S and Seathe the music was ass. And don't go full reddit/YT comment section and tell me Gwyns theme is anything utter than fucking trash, it was trash when they bought it back in SoC fight too.
BB had the best music. It was 10/10 because it was an actual fucking orchestra. You can easily tell when they're synthesizing this shit and when they aren't, DeS was also synth'd but at least it was much more thematic and calm as opposed to muh grandiose chanting garbage.
Fuck, that is 4 times in a row I had aldrich at about a 16th of his health left and he fucked me...
Anyone wanna help?
Sl 20 w/ +3
Outside fog gate
Ps4
Pass: dsghalp
>>160245931
I loved the Abyss Watchers theme, i enjoyed the play for Soul of Cinder and my honest favorite for 3, and one of my highest rated ones is the fucking Gravetender. Wolf intro makes my dick hard
>>160246608
I shall assist my friend! Be there in a sec
>>160246750
Thanks.
I'm there waiting
>Beat the game for the first time.
>Link the fire.
>My guy pokes the sword.
>Hand catches on fire.
>Just kind of stares at it.
>Sits down.
>Camera pans out.
>Credits roll.
I feel accomplished.
>>160246885
>he's actually trying to link the Fire when game constantly hints that the fucking thing went completely hollow and it's time to stop trying to revive it and either reset it or go with a hollowed flame and world of undeads
"Bonfires were a mistake" - Unkindled One
Anybody on PS4 want to help me transfer like 2 things?
I dont want to waste a re-spec just for 10 int.
>>160246560
>muh grandiose chanting garbage
>remembers 3, grandiose chantings greatest hits
>picks another chanting song out of DS2 and praises two in DS1
>praise DeS for being calm and thematic
>hates Gwyn theme
>le reddit :^) XD kill yourself
You're so fucking contrarian you contradict yourself
>>160238170
Dark Souls 2 had a legit good NG+ system and if Dark Souls 3 had had any of that, it would've been more interesting to play.
The whole thing about being able to get drenched in water and have fire defense go up but lightning defense go down was also interesting and gave areas a little character.
>>160247250
Can do boss, where do ya need me!
>>160247328
High wall!!
Pass is rings.
I'll be there in 2 minutes, got invaded
>>160246885
>>160246750
Awesome, thank you!
Funny, I killed dancer on my 3rd try and dragonslayer armor on my first, but that prock just keeps taking me out for sone reason...
>>160247326
torches were neato
shitty implementation but neato
same with pharris stones
yore was just shitty
>>160247253
Vordts theme had a fast enough pace to justify it, Dancer's was slow as fuck and far from grand, NKs also had chanting but at least had the visuals to justify it, Pursuer's theme was much more than just chanting, it was almost akin to the Jaws theme music, it fit what the Pursuer was absolutely perfect.
And DeS WAS calm and thematic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxiYftRbtj4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBYLtyaGXP8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaZWK0RaPFk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQw1rPMn95E
>hates gwyn theme
Yeah, I do, Gerhman's theme blows it out of the fucking water even if it DOES have chanting near the end.
Now present some arguments before you go off like a cuck or stay mad, kid.
>>160247361
Well 5 arrows killed me. I counted the controller vibrations. The pain is real. If you need more help, shout out, im happy to help my fellow Ps4 people
>>160242460
>intro cutscene
>emma tells you
>Undead Settlement has huge crevices from the land shifting
>Cathedral of the Deep being clearly ripped out of it's location and placed where it is now
>the lore on the High Wall banner says that the High Wall just appeared one day
>>160247210
I don't recall any hinting and I was trying to pay attention to any plot. I remember the prince saying that it was futile but I figured he was just being a bitch and trying to dissuade me from offing him. The Keeper told me to link it, Ludleth told me to link it, Pyromancer guy said to be afraid of it, and Yuria said to seize it but also seemed to be using/manipulating me.
That said I wasn't being sarcastic. I did genuinely feel pretty sated with that ending.
>friend tries out Dark Souls 1
>have to tell him how to manage his inventory and how to beat the Asylum Demon
>still takes him about 2 hours to beat him
>doesn't know where to go from Firelink and quits
>lend him Dark Souls 2
>quits because he can't reach the forest of the fallen giants
>tells me he has too few Estus, can't do it
>quits
>lend him Dark Souls 3
>guide him a little
>was stuck on Abyss Watchers for days
>tell him to explore the swamp water area and find another path to a different boss
>can't find it and quits
>watch friend play Bloodborne
>keeps asking me where to go
>gets pissed when I don't tell him
>quits at Gascoigne
Keep in mind I didn't force him to play the games. He saw me play and asked if he could borrow them because they look like fun
>>160247328
On my way.
>>160247594
So my signs down with the pass, that all good?
>>160247648
pass is rings
Cant see your sign
>>160247486
Yeah, low level runs are killer.
I think the twin princes will likely 1 shot me with most of their attacks.
Not looking forward to it...
>>160247517
also the actual road into Irithyll is buried, we're basically using a back entrance that wasn't initially supposed to even be there
>>160247573
>owns a console
>has friends
>>160241658
They're both supposed to be super low investment options, since they don't scale and have low requirements. In PvE some of the bleed immune mobs are vulnerable to frost, so it's kind of like a Rouge alternative.
Won't accomplish much in PvP.
>>160244106
every kinda light weapon with lowish requirements. Longsword, Claymore, Winged Spear, Falchion, Handaxe, etc. Just infuse them with dark and you are good to go.
>>160247745
>be a non-NEET human
>have friends
Does this seem odd to you?
I have a mage pure build with 60 magic, 13 strenght adn 16 dex. what melee weapons are a good compliment to this?
>>160241959
It's nearly 2017 and people still don't understand that every single zone transition in DS2 is deliberately fucked up.
Because you only noticed the problem with the Iron Keep transition right? The game has a running theme of your memories melting away, maybe they did too good a job of it.
>>160243816
>Demons has the best story
The story in Demon's Souls is literally "Boletaria has been kidnapped by Demons. Are you bad enough dude to kill the Demons?"
Dark Souls 1 / BB had the best story, Demon's Souls' story barely is anything past justification for combat.
>>160247648
Still there my dude?
I will put my sign down. Check if you see it.
>>160247820
>Implying frogposters are human.
>>160247820
>he isn't a NEET
>>160247863
Almost all interesting content of DS1's story was removed prior to the release like antagonism between you and Oscar. It only created the universe, DS3 is much better in terms of actual story as it both shows the evolution of setting and gives you endings that define the future of the setting.
>>160247863
>comparing dark souls to BB
dark souls is still very generic at its core. BB however is probably one of the frshest narratives in videogames of both this gen adn the last. the game flips from a beast hunt in the streets to a cosmic journey for infinite knowledge. it is insane and FROM managed to keep the whole thing under wraps, even though it wasn't a twist secret anyway.
>>160247898
Yeah, i tried switching to a higher level character and ive put down my red sign instead. Thisll carry through better than a summon
I wont be able to see your sign unless it red to, my dude
>>160243282
Yes
>>160242662
It's just a direct counter to thoughtless 2HR2s with a GS, because your HA beats theirs and you out trade them with the same attack speed. Decent players will exploit your completely garbage range.
>>160247859
>It's nearly 2017 and people still don't understand that every single zone transition in DS2 is deliberately fucked up.
Really? Even like...say...dropping down into the Gutter?
Oh
Hold on
No, that one made sense! It doesn't count! W-What about
>Every single zone
No no its not what you meant, only SOME zones!
>Ruins ---> Pharros ----> Cove also made perfect sense
OH NO
COULD IT BE?
THAT YOU'RE justifying a rushed, development-hell'd game? There was supposed to, intentionally, be a way straight into Iron Keep from Earthen Peak that would make sense thematically. It was cut. Not for story reasons. It was 100% cut content that left something behind that didn't make sense. I'm sorry, bud. You're wrong.
:(
>>160247976
FORGOT THE FUCKING RINGS
FUCK
Dropping my sign again with the stuff this time
>>160244357
That's differences in the roll though, not differences in the backstab. DS2's more vulnerable recovery times and weaker roll were better for PvP. The backstab was still slower than DS3's, but it worked for the game.
>>160248158
The picture I posted, before you ignore it like the low-iq retard you are, is what the area was supposed to be. You can even see a castle near the top right of the image. Iron Keep. Near the top of a mountain. Not a single elevator in sight.
>>160247210
>not fulfilling the suicidal duty you were burdened with to prove to the dying world that a nameless accursed undead unfit even to be cinder can indeed become cincer if he choses so
> not wanting to be done with it
>implying it ultimately matters if the fire gets linked one last time if it will die either way
>>160248249
>"proving" some retarded point when you could rule the Undeads while having your personal harem blessed with infinite purging stones
>>160247976
Thanks mate!!
Btw, when I switched to that UGS, I couldn't even wield it properly because I am pure STR, so dont think I was salty lol.
Thanks for the help.
Drop your sign for the next character if you dont mind.
>>160248158
This.
You can also see Heide's Tower of Flame from Majula and its visible location is WAY off compared when you actually walk there.
>>160248364
Nah we were only joshing mate
Also may have been due to the fact my Iron debilitation was still in effect.
Signs down, red by the bonfire
>>160248351
>wanting to be the lord of another age that will eventually end and where you or your successor pull similiar shit to gwyn and panick over the unevitable end
na nigga
>>160248365
>Drangleic Castle changes its position after you go through the tunnel
>>160248351
Hi Yuria.
>>160247573
I would unfriend him irl
>>160248432
Thanks for the help mate.
Anything you need?
>>160248435
>implying there will be another age after you absorb the hollowed flame and become basically the last god in the setting probably able to shift gravity and space like the Flame itself can
If anyone will try to do something to you in the state of Lord of Hollows you will probably be able to just go full Made in Heaven on his ass
>>160248158
>Ruins ---> Pharros ----> Cove also made perfect sense
Are these the ruins that are located literally inside Aldia's Keep because all of the geometry leading out of the forked road overlaps ontop of itself into an impossible mess?
>>160248535
Im all good man, thanks for the offer. Enjoy your stuff and happy to help
>>160248550
true, could be fun while it lasts but wont the flame fade inside you eventually too?
>>160248463
Jokes on you, i'm more interested in Liliane.
Shame From was too lazy to give Yuria a proper face though, all sisters are probably as cute as Friede.
Is Sotfs still a decently active game? I watched videos on DaS3, and it doesn't looks all that great to me (for a value price of $59.99, not to mention DLC.).
Not willing to dump money (that I don't have) on something like that.
>>160248579
Fair enough, but my other point still stands. The trailer is the Achilles heel of the whole argument because it shows you that there WAS a plan to avoid the elevator entirely and they just cut it along with mannequin masks and whatever else got gutted from this game and instead settled for god awful transitions that aren't even justified by a bunch of fat autists sperging out over how its "so smart because its lore! you just didnt see it cuz it was subtle! ;)"
DaS2 was unfinished. Tons of stuff got cut. The areas that would otherwise serve as transitions were probably a part of this cut content, and would have spread out the map, therefore avoiding shit like Hiede's being 1000x close than it looks or the castles swapping positions
>>160248624
Anon, Flame already faded and became hollow yet it still keeps its space/time powers. It seems it cannot die unless Firekeeper specifically destroys it.
>>160248660
The PVE of DS2 is amazing, the PVP is complete shit, but more variety.
DS3 is the most populated due to being new.
DS1 is full meta
>>160248762
>The PVE of DS2 is amazing, the PVP is complete shit
>>160248724
As I understood it the flame is on the verge of going out, I wouldnt say that it can hollow. And if it goes out the age of ancients would return with ancient dragons, archtrees and hollows. We can already see hollows turning into trees so thats something.
>>160243050
Best ugs because of moveset.
>>160248673
It was unfinished, stuff was cut, Tanimura had to make something out of a load of half finished assets which didn't necessarily fit together.
He decided to create an impossible dreamscape and roll with an intro about fading memories.
There were other options, it wouldn't have taken any significant effort to just stick a nest on the balcony of Earthen Peak and re-use the eagle transition. You could have had the lift go down. You could have used any completely random unexplained blackout into teleport sequence, ala Dancer in DS3, but he didn't. He decided to do something which very obviously makes no sense, unless it wasn't trying to make sense.
Say what you like about DS2's dodgy production, but I don't think anybody at Fromsoft is incompetent enough to accidentally stick a lake of lava and a castle in the sky.
hi hi, can someone on PC help me transfer some rings? scholar's, sun's first born, and sage +2
I'm gonna need to replace my save in the middle of it anyways so you'll be able to back up yours to keep them too if you want I guess, I don't know if there's much else I could give you but feel free to ask!
>>160248907
>but I don't think anybody at Fromsoft is incompetent enough to accidentally stick a lake of lava and a castle in the sky.
They were incompetent enough to think SM was a good idea. Let me remind you that while Miyazaki is a hack in my mind, this is how the SM conversation went down when he was throwing out more garbage ideas for PvP
>Early in development
>Hey Miyahacki should we add in Soul Memory?
>"Whats Soul Memory?"
>"A system where how many souls you earned determines who you are matched with or against!"
And then he laughed very fucking hard and never brought it up again.
Anything is possible with Jap devs. They will either shit gold in the outhouse or mine garbage in the shafts.
>>160238170
>Ascetics to respawn bosses
>Able to use a weapons full moveset in the left hand
>Powerstance
>Upgrading shields improved their stats, not just the stability
>Depleting your stamina caused your character to breathe heavily
>You didn't lose your momentum from falling down 2 feet
>Poise wasn't as retarded as in 1 or as useless as in 3
>Fun NPC invaders that didn't act like just another enemy
>Interacting with the environment unlocked secrets, like lighting all the scones in The Gutter
>Other secrets like the pig and pickaxe
>Lockstones and Fragrant Branches manipulated the environment
>Getting wet reduced your characters lightning RES while boosting your fire RES
>NG+ added new enemies and items
>rolling in poison made your poison build up continue even on dry land because you were still covered in it
>rolling in snow/poison/water covered you in it and it slowly disappeared
>You could activate several pools of blood at once, resulting in hilarity
>You could be invaded even while hollow and if the boss was dead, but at a lower chance
>You could burn an effigy to block invaders, but you blocked summons as well
>Poison builds were not only viable, they were useful
>You could roll in more directions when locked on
>Hexes were fleshed out
>White phantoms couldn't Estus with an invader in the world
>Small soapstones if you wanted help with the area before a boss, without having to BC to solo the boss
>Drinking Estus in a fight was a gamble thanks to the slow speed
>Twinblades
>Lances
>Fists were viable
>Corrosive urns, so you didn't need pyro to break equipment
>Chests could be broken, making hitting them to see if it's a mimic risky
>Trapped chests
>Attacking with no stamina made the swing slow, making stamina management more important
Undead Crypt used to be located near Earthen Peak and was much bigger, much much bigger.
This is one area that was possibly in between Earthen Peak and Iron Keep.
PvE is good as in ds1. But most of us playing it for PvP (i think). Everybody knows all annoying PvP issues - phantoms can heal, overall poor fighting system compared to ds2, covenant problems etc etc. I decided to install it and play for a bit (2 days). I have 50 sl and invading people at low irytill. Yeah i'm invading first time players but i know limits. I was acting good to people who are alone and dont attack me immediately like i'm some PvE enemy. But most of the time i have to ambush people because they have 2 phantoms and most likely will run and heal. Then run and summon more people. I could act more cool and make fights more pleasing for all but mechanics of this game wont let me. People can heal and summon countless times and they do it. Duels on sl 80 or 120 might be fun untill it turn into meta garbage.
Summary: I wont play this game ever again. I still interested in it and in other souls games but i dont expect good games from these guys. I'm interested in any medieval fighting game like For Honor and Mount & Blade. I think someday someone will make game like dark souls with all things that people would love to see. If not then i will try to make it but much later.
>>160247357
What the fuck is wrong with Hawkwood's cape
>>160249018
SM was a fine system for what they were trying to accomplish, which was to provide good matchmaking for random plebs progressing their way through the single player and occasionally engaging in PvP. The whole fightclub and meta level PvP thing is a wierd niche group that FS aren't trying to cater to, their priority was always the average player on their first playthrough near launch.
I didn't like SM any more than you did, and DS3's system is a better compromise, but I understand the thought process behind it.
>>160249147
Also the icon for Earthen Peak has a mountain in the skybox that isn't in the final game.
>>160249084
>heavy breathing is a plus to you
>the fucking PICKAXE RETARDATION is a good thing to you
>Powerstancing AKA "We could add dual weapons but its too much effort so have some static weapon-class based movesets" is a good thing to you
>Getting wet is such a positive you put it on par with actual NPC invader AI
>You listed FALL DAMAGE: ONE OF THE WORST ASPECTS OF 2 as a positive
>You listed twinblades, one of the most retarded, edgy, and overall dull weapon classes as a positive
>You listed infinitecombo fist weapons as a positive (demon fists weren't good enough I guess)
>You listed Corrosive Urns, an item used almost exclusively by cheaters, as a positive
>You listed some garbage snow particle effects as a positive on par with something good like blocked phantom healing
>listed activating multiple blood pools, something no one does past the first playthrough or maybe out of boredom, as a positive
And last but not least
>YOU LISTED FRAGRANT BRANCHES AS
>A
>FUCKING
>POSITIVE
WERE YOU NOT EXPECTING SOMEONE TO READ THROUGH THIS HACK-FRAUD OF A LIST?
Kill yourself AlbinoLama I know its you.
>>160249084
BRADLEY IS CUTE
>>160249273
SM just needed to go by souls spent on non-consumables (so, levels and upgrades), not all souls accumulated.
>>160249330
Different anon, you're garbage and you have no clue what you're talking about and I don't think you even "get" the series
>>160249330
>he wants to spam R1 until his stamina bar hits the negatives
>he hates secrets in video games
>he thinks inflexible dedicated paired weapons are a better form of dual wielding than powerstancing
>judging the value of an item by the existence of cheaters
t. Jap
>>160249273
>SM was a fine system for what they were trying to accomplish
No it wasn't. Actually, it worked against it. No one likes the idea of eventually having to retire a PvP character because he amassed too many souls, which is why the Agape Ring was added.
>>160249431
>No one likes the idea of eventually having to retire a PvP character
95% of the people who purchased the game have never thought of creating "a PvP character". Your perspective is warped because you're in a small community echo chamber.
>>160249430
>he thinks inflexible dedicated paired weapons are a better form of dual wielding than powerstancing
They objectively are. Powerstancing can be looked at as a few new moves per certain weapon classes and nothing more whereas dual weapons are an actual moveset tied to the R1s of a weapon class. I wish we could use the weapon arts w/r1s of the weapon on our offhand in 3, but Powerstancing was absolute shit, I only ever used it to powerstance clubs in a speedrun.
>he hates secrets in video games
Except I never said this, read the list again retard.
>judging the value of an item by the existence of cheaters
You mean like how people complain about Siegbräu? Yeah.
>he wants to spam R1 until his stamina bar hits the negatives
Never said that either, unless you think the heavy breathing effect has anything to do with r1 spam, which I know you think it does since you're mentally challenged.
Learn to read.
>>160249571
99% of the audience retained after the first few weeks of release are speedrunners and PvP people. And I guarantee you that there are more PvP people than speedrun people.
>>160249571
You realize that is PRECISELY the case against soul memory? It ONLY affects the people who PvP, casual players are completely unaffected. The only people who got shafted were those who like low level PvP.
>>160249703
The purpose of SM was to keep low level characters from getting ganked by twinks
Are you purposefully being retarded or is it not an act?
>>160249653
https://steamcommunity.com/stats/236430/achievements/
Well since nearly 70% of players have never even discovered the Brotherhood of Blood covenant on any of their characters, you can't be talking about a particularly large number of people.
>>160241625
Damnit thats what i was going to try. 40 VIT 30 STR masochism incoming
>>160249794
My argument wasn't for the amount of players, it was for what those players are doing. You missed the point. Good job.
>>160249782
So why not limit it, instead, to weapon upgrades like DaS3 did? DaS3 still has "twinking" but it requires they beat a fuckton of bosses while never going above +2 to be optimal, otherwise they just have a raw weapon and no health, and 90% of the time are up against 3 phantoms.
>>160249782
>The purpose of SM was to keep low level characters from getting ganked by twinks
Effigies literally allow this. SM was a mistake even with the game mechanics it was designed with.
>great weapons
when will they learn
>>160249330
>Heavy breathing is a neat touch and can be used to gauge your opponents stamina in pvp
>Pickaxe was a neat easter egg
>Powerstancing was neat compared to paired weapons because the variety was huge
>Getting wet and having defenses change added depth. Nowhere did i put it on par with anything else
>I didn't say anything about fall damage
>Twinblades were neat because it added variety
>There's no infinite combo
>Just because cheaters also use things does not make them negative. Guess what, cheaters use weapons too, does that make it negative?
>Getting covered in snow was neat, and nowhere did i put it on par with anything else
>Blood pools are funny to me, like that lemmings.webm, and i do it whenever i see a lot of them
>Branches added to exploration and gave you an excuse to go back to areas. I agree they could've been better
TL;DR: Subjective.
Nah, you kill yourself, if you really want to.
>>160249862
>My argument wasn't for the amount of players, it was for what those players are doing.
For someone who's trying to argue that Fromsoft should design systems around your wishes, you're not doing a very good job of convincing anybody that you're important. Game production is driven by sales.
>>160238170
Can someone tell me what the fuck is happening in the demon's souls part. I know thats a cursed dragon bone smasher but whats the other?
>ds2 casters were good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0xMJE9tAIc
>>160250146
Obviously it's a Crescent Falchion, the worst item placement decision in all of Soulsborne.
>>160250208
>>160250146
I always thought it was 2kat
>>160250208
Why would they use the crescent falchion? It has shit damage and the mp regen isnt that useful. I think its better to use blueblood instead
>>160250248
Ahhhh, well if you count Pure Bladestone as item placement then I guess that wins.
>>160250027
>Considering swings and rolling consume static amounts of stamina? You could very well already know that if you weren't retarded.
>Pickaxe was contrived, retarded shit hiding a joke weapon that few people actually used.
>Powerstancing had no variety, you got about 3-4 new "moves" that were completely static if you used two similar weapons. And the most famous thing Powerstancing shit out was fucking Havelynns and helicopters (useless build)
>Twinblades were a low range, low damage weapon that had the only upside of being flashy. If you disagree you didn't play the same game I did.
>There were MANY stunlock builds, one even involved a fucking shortbow, lad.
>Cheaters were infamous for using rapidfire corrosive urns and nothing you say will undo the fact that it was useful ONLY to them and useless to everyone else unless you found out they were wearing one of the 10 durability rings. Even WITH rapidfire corrosive it still took cheaters ages to break items.
>Branches added to exploration
I can't even finish that last one. Branches were an insufferable gating mechanic that only got worse with the SotfS patch. I find it hilarious that people praise DaS2 for its "FREEDOM OF EXPLORATION" when they gate half of your paths with statueniggers
>>160238170
What is going on in BB?
And what is going on in DaS3?
>sit down with Mugenmonkey and the wiki
>try to plan a DS3 faith build
>mfw
>>160250027
>Twinblades were neat because it added variety
I say this as someone who used twinblades. Constantly. They were shit. You can tell just by using them that whoever designed them put no thought into them. Man, come ON, the best fucking TWINBLADE WASN'T EVEN A TWINBLADE
IT WAS A BROKEN
FUCKING
SPEAR
>>160250296
Look at the gif again mate, it's not about item placements
>>160250324
in the gif? arcane rifle spear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI3aRB5LADk
DaS3 is probably supposed to show retarded curved sword fagging
>>160250324
>BB
Arc Rifle Spear. Old glitch where if you put specific gems into the Rifle Spear, it would do a shitton of damage on its gunshots.
>Ds3
Rolling R1?
>>160250380
>IT WAS A BROKEN
>FUCKING
>SPEAR
my sides are leaving orbit
>>160250267
Comedy gifs are more about what people perceive as most used, not about the actual strongest PvP options. The Crescent Falchion on the ground at the start of 4-1 was so much better than everything else as an early game weapon pickup that everybody was sick to death of using the thing.
Remember the scrapped concept for a hidden entrance to the catacombs behind the statue in Firelink Shrine in DS1?
Well it turns out it might not have led to the catacombs at all. Someone found this removed entrance in the Lordvessel room. If you ever wondered why it looked like you could walk in the area around where Frampt drops you off, well now you know why.
i don't know if people defending ds2 at this point are serious or just fishing for ez replies
nobody in his right mind will ever want to defend that turd of a game unless they have a terminal stage of Stockholm syndrome
Yo how am I supposed to find out in-game where to go to start AotA?
>my main builds for games is str faith
>currently have 4 builds in my save files, all different str faith builds
>Normally only need 2 but the shittiness of both of these types has caused me to keep trying for better
>they only get worse
Im not even kidding, this is making me quit. The balance of this is just stupid and i cant sit down and do it. I dont mind struggling and gimping a build, but you cant save this properly
>>160250507
The easiest way to tell is if they are going into details about why they like it and giving justifications, or if they are just giving generic blanket statements. If it is generic statements then they are just fishing for replies.
>>160250568
If you know it sucks why do you keep trying? Why not try something else? Also why keep remaking characters instead of respecing?
>There are no infinite combos in DaS2
Just wanted to step into this shitshow to say this:
You're technically right but you're being a cunt. If the combo leaves you unable to do anything until you die, regardless of whether or not they _can_ run out of stamina? It is an infinite combo. And yes, they did exist in DaS2. Some of them existed for a long time.
>>160250380
I used the vanilla Twinblade loads and I disagree, they had one of the most interesting movesets in Souls. The interesting part being the way the 2HR1 can be manually wiggled to land 3 hits per R1, giving it very high damage and poise damage output, but requiring you to stand at point blank range.
It's a weapon that can do high damage stunlocks from close up, can stagger in a wide area for low damage from further out and can cancel into sped-up R2s to step forward for slower long range damage. Every attack had a niche, so it was actually super versatile.
Unfortunately the base damage was so awful it didn't become usable until late in the game when you could stack flat AR bonuses, so people wrote it off as unusable without giving it a proper go.
>>160250568
This, believe me I've tried too.
Every build I try end up as melee/pyromancers anyway, from sorcerers to str/fth builds.
Dark Souls 3's gameplay is simply not structured for build variety anymore. Every build essentially have to do the same things, or just be shit.
>>160250630
Who would win if all the Ds3 bosses went fisticuffs on each other?
>>160250632
>There are no infinite combos in DaS2
>they did exist in DaS2. Some of them existed for a long time.
>they did exist
>did
>>160250631
Because i want it to be good. Its what ive loved in all the souls games and for it to be so shit in this one? It hurts.
I have other builds, Pyro, Dex, Int, and Dex/Int
Ive respecced on the builds a few times now individually, some builds required class changes is all, some i didnt want to abandon.
Ive purged one of my str/fai builds atm and im building a low level invasion dickass thief for some fuckery to try and force some fun on me. Dunno how itll go
>>160250814
It has never been particularly good, though.
>>160250723
Don't know about other bosses, but Aldrich AI defeats Pontiff's AI.
>>160250814
Faith requires at least 40 points to come close to being effective in PvP.
Strength will also require some Vit and End points, which will make the build way too spread out in the end.
Fth/Dex is a better option because of the low weight, and even though I don't like it, due to the fact the game is fucking designed to be played with fast weapons.
>>160250814
I think my jew run was str/faith. It only got fun near the end, anon.
>the colossal 'fuck you' that is medium shield parries
Bonus points if you parry some caestus retard that's been mashing L2 on your first parry.
>>160250801
One thing that DS2 deserves a lot of credit for is making a real effort to fix things like broken weapons and PvP stunlocks. The game changed significantly for the better over a period of several patches and the experience of improving things in DS2 is probably the reason that DS3 wasn't a complete mess on launch.
Because Miyazaki gave no fucks about this sort of thing back in DS1, you were just really lucky toggle escapes happened to exist. DS2 can be credited with the 2-hit stunlock balancing that made its way into the 3rd game. Were it not for Tanimura, DS3 would probably be one-touch death with no toggles.
>>160250887
>Because i want it to be good. Its what ive loved in all the souls games and for it to be so shit in this one? It hurts.
Doesnt mean i havent loved doing it in other games
Demons had its faith fuckery
Dark 1 required gimicks and gave me Grant, my all time favorite weapon, but was still usable.
Dark 2 was the most competent its ever been, simple storm warrior was fun as hell
Faith was Arcane (although also int) and was incredibly funny, had the best of times
Dark 3's only gimick is lightning bolts to the face, and theres no str required. Mornes is ass, only good for the occasional meme
Its just the fact that i dont even have the option for it to be close to good. At least before str weapons and faith could blend somewhat well, and be good enough. But that went out the window with 3, only way to faith is tank hits and hope they die
>>160250814
You've tried just sticking Lightning Blade on a raw Dragonslayer's Axe right?
>>160250465
Neato
>>160251085
But you dont need str for that friendo. Just enough to wield the weaponYes its fun as hell
How do you beat pontiff? I've been stuck on him for so long
>>160250995
wheres your serpent rings and rusted coins??
>>160251048
It was good in DeS. That's the only time it has been good in the entire series.
It was shit in 1, the grant was usuable garbage. DaS2 was a joke in and of itself.
>>160251280
You should do damage to him, and try to not get damaged yourself (you can use rolling, for example).
Good luck!
>Go to sleep
>Dream about walking endlessly through a dark place
>Enter a house
>Start talking to someone
>Someone starts rubbing my back
>It's fucking gwyndolin
>Dream turns into fucking really quickly
>Wake up
>Literally the most cum i've ever seen in my life, everywhere
WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU ALL DONE TO ME
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
>>160251519
Ill never forget my Grant days, friend. Some of the best memories
Nothing like baiting people into chase, switching to grant and nuking them from around a corner
Nothing like throwing the R1s into people and then baiting into a nuke.
Youre seeming against having fun. Pain hours a necessary, but you have fun.
Nah man, being the king of storms was funny as all hell in arena, ill never forget cornering people and throwing lightning storm at em and then throwing spears as they run
Thats the problem with 3, the reward of fun is not consistent with the pain you put in.
>>160251642
Fighting it is probably a bad idea
:^)
>>160251642
You rike?
>>160248949
p-please respond
but respond by saying yes
>>160251642>>14962600
Good taste famalam
>>160251687
>Nothing like baiting people into chase, switching to grant and nuking them from around a corner
Don't get me wrong, I had fun doing that too, but that doesn't make the weapon good. Good = fun or vice versa. They are both independent variables. Something can be fun and not good, fun and good, not fun and not good, or not fun but good.
Ashen One... *nervous laugh*
>>160251828
>Gracious. Passing fine ash thou'st given.
And awfully warm, at that.
You better watch your fucking mouth you dry hag
>>160251797
Thats a good point. Far from a meta weapon, but i still bought it to fight clubs, and still won a few matches. Great clubs a great club after all.
I just miss being able to happily do a str/faith build i guess. I used to be able to do it, even if it was trash and still redeem it with being good enough to do so. But in this, its just...not. Lightining blade a weapon and swing and when theyre low, Unfaltering a sunlight spear in their face is the only viable offensive
>>160251841
>>160251785
>>160251746
>>160251720
god please no
i felt so fucking dirty
ive never even cum before without jacking off, a few months in this fucking shithole and suddenly im having wetdreams about a ladyboy in game i beat once
>>160251828
>>160251962
>Give ashes literally covered in shit
>"Gracious. Passing fine ash thou'st given"
>>160252108
Guess you've beat her twice, eh anon?
>>160252108
There's literally nothing wrong with it.
Embrace it.
One of us! One of us!
>>160252020
>still won a few matches
So did I. I remember rushing around a pillar and casting replenishment to condition someone into expecting that during a duel, then when they rushed me, Grant's WoG to the face. It was hilarious because as they ran around the corner you could see the realization of what just happened dawning on them, but it was too late for them to properly respond.
The build was always bad; it's still bad. You could have fun with it despite that if you wanted to, and that hasn't changed.
>>160251828
SOTP FUCKING LAUGHING
WHAT'S SO FUCKING FUNNY?
>>160248660
I just got it and am shocked at how active it still is. More active than DS1 PC.
>>160252207
>her
>>160252278
Kill yourself tranny.
man I was really hoping DaS3 would have a black sludge abyss mode or something. BB's beastmode and milkweed/kosm mode were fun as hell.
You guys think the next DLC will add something cool like that?
There's been something confusing me ever since I started ds3 and maybe you guys can help out a bit.
In ds2 hexes scaled on both int and faith as you know, but in ds3 it seems to imply that it's purely based on spell buff.
If for example in this scenario I wanted to use dark blade, now as it does dark damage I'd imagine it scaled on both int and faith, so am I right in thinking that if, theoretically, I used priests chime with a spell buff of 310 (obviously made up numbers) to cast it'd be better than a caithas at 280 correct?
>>160250723
ancient dragon
>>160252425
Nope. They cant even do dragon mode properly in 3
>>160252456
Dark scaling is whack and varies with catalyst rather than following any consistent logic. Always refer to this to figure out which catalyst makes sense.
>>160252784
Saved for future use but there's no mention of caithas scaling under the weapon enhancement part
>can't be summoned in to play as the champion
>npc armour instead of bringing a cool new set makes no sense for no reason
This fight was kind of shit
>>160253016
Caitha's gimmick is that the INT scaling gets applied to Dark miracles, the INT scaling isn't applied to regular miracles which is why it deals garbage damage with Lightning Spear. So Lightning Blade will deal shitty damage with it, and the fex description for Dark Blade says "Catalysts that improve the effectivenes of dark miracles have no effect.", so I would assume Caitha's is also terrible with Dark Blade.
>>160253083
the armor combo the champion dude wears is so shit. I really wish he had his own armor set.
Also being summoned to be the champion after defeating him would have been pretty cool. Like Old Monk except I'd hope they'd handicap you a bit more than Old Monk, because you could troll a little too well in the Old Monk fight.
>>160250552
Yo please
>>160253227
So in turn if I wanted to use lifehunt scythe for example it'd be better of just using it with the highest spellbuff chime/talisman regardless of the bonus dark from caitha/sunless?
>>160251642
>Cumming gallons in your sleep
Yeah nah anon
>Want to summon people for jolly co-op
>No one can pass the fog gate
thanks miyazaki i rike it
>>160253083
>>160253287
B-but you don't understand! It's supposed to be shit..
It's a reference to DaS1 Chainmom! Ugh!
>>160253314
You're not
>>160253083
Yeah, possibly my least favorite boss in the game. The DLC was really lazy overall, brought almost nothing new to the table.
What's the best way to BM my opponent after I successfully invade?
If Abyss DLC what are the chances of this guy showing up again.
I really want the set...
>>160253384
Lifehunt Scythe is considered a dark miracle, and isn't a weapon buff, so it gets the INT scaling bonus from Caitha, and should do more damage with that.
>>160254183
Slim to none i'd say
>>160254054
Clap and point down is my favourite.
If they were using a scrub weapon you rapidly equip and unequip that weapon over and over. I usually save this for shit like Washing Pole and Havel GS users.
>>160254183
Slave Knight set is an evolution of crimson set already.
>>160254054
Stalk dung pie.
Anyone up for low level champion gundyr?
Ps4
Pass: dsg123
>>160254054
Remember when people said the DLC will save Dark Souls 3? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha....
After wearing Vilhelm's set for so long, I can't go back to any other armor set, because I look too fat in them.
>>160250161
>The sounds
>The animations
>The everything
I can't go back.
>>160254517
First world problems
>this outfit makes my video game character look fat.
>>160254196
Riiight, I think I follow now, thanks man
>>160254592That's the joke.
>>160250161
>>160254585
>someone thought that backstep i-frames were a good idea
>someone thought that chaos blade being able to hit for a third of hp was a good idea
>someone thought that giving all spells insane enormous windups was a good idea
>>160253083
Its because he was the Champs Page, not a warrior. The dynamic of the fight was moreso reading afterwards and understanding their roles of being there. And i agree, fight was sub par, but the story behind it introducing the arena was cool, but i wish he had more champ lore.
>>160254661
>someone thought that backstep i-frames were a good idea
Why weren't they?
>>160250354
I made one with 16 STR 30 DEX and 50 Faith with the swordspear. You don't get minmaxed damage for spell and weapon, but it's fun poking at them and casting steak or spear when they get close. Damage is not that bad tooin the arena
>>160254692
They were, hes just butthurt.
The long spell windups are gay though
>>160254692
Too safe and spammable. You could basically backstep through everything easily. It fucked heavy weapons especially hard. I'm very glad DS3 nerfed them back.
>>160254416
Ill join, i need to do something before i get off tonight, so ill mark you for the 3rd person ive helped tonight
Ill throw my sign in front of the boss gate
>>160252784
Canvas has more "poise" than the regular talisman, right?
>>160250568
You can get good hybrid builds if you don't restrict yourself to community imposed metas.
>>160254752
K
Waiting there now
>>160254752
I might be one you helped already if you're the guy I summoned for Aldrich
Twin princes weren't that tough.
>>160254513
Remember when anon literally was unable to stop putting that pasta about 3 at the top of the thread even though 2 is unequivocally the worst game? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha....
>>160250267
>I think its better to use blueblood instead
Yeah, but Blueblood is found in the end of the game.
Crescent Falchion was Demon's Souls' Dark Sword pretty much, except that it also regenerated MP which made it like a Caster build must-have.
>>160254979
3 and 2 are both equally shit. 3 is prettier, but bad is still bad.
>>160254742
They shouldn't be as useless as they are in 3 though. I don't think they need iframes, but it feels like your hitbox doesn't even really move until the whole animation completes. They only feel useful for backstepping towards people for running attacks, never for dodging.
>>160254807
Oh i can make a good hybrid, metas be damned.
But they dont stand up well against the metas. Thats the problem, i feel like all my faith builds are just gimmick builds that rely too heavily on stats that arent all that great
>>160255206
With a perfect latency their hitbox is fine. Hodrick uses them extremely effectively to gain distance.
>>160255201
No, so far 3's actually the best thus far.
>>160255259
You don't usually have that though, it feels like you leave afterimages when you sprint or backstep. I guess it's more of a netcode problem, but it'd be nice if they at least reduced hitbox size durring those animations.
>>160254324
Mask > hood
>>160255210
They didn't before either. Fth builds always relied on your opponent being stupid, ecept for regen builds, which you can still make in 3 and have about the same type of success, and be as assholish as they were
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17p2z0YSOLw
PC benefits: you can control Aldrich, Devourer of Gods and use him to have even more fun when killing invaders!
>>160255259
They're basically as slow as rolls while having no invulnerability, and rolling attacks come out faster than running attacks for most weapon classes, so there's no good reason to use a backstep instead of a roll unless you're trying to meme.
The delay before the i-frames start when rolling in DS3 is very annoying as it prevents you from using that satisfying just-frame timing that DS2 taught people to use. If I were to redesign things myself I'd give rolls immediate i-frames while keeping the same total invulnerable period, and then balance backsteps by having the invulnerability on the backstep begin later and last for a shorter period.
Then you could have a backstep which recovers faster than a roll but has to be performed earlier and with more precise timing to be able to avoid anything with it. The shorter recovery can be the payoff.
>>160255786
How does that work input wise?
>>160255705
Yeah but its worse now than it was in other games. The ONLY method of faith combat is unfaltering prayer, thats it. At least in the other games there was some way to land them in pvp there was at least a method or something. But now its literally trading. Its just nothing like a faith build,
>>160255786
>Those screams and sighs
Poor Gwyndolin, he deserved better.
Is Gwyndolin the character who suffered the worst fate in the series? I'd say so, literally being devoured alive slowly but surely
>>160255895
Not as smooth as player control, but you'll get used to it pretty fast. The movements and some attacks are slow so you can get killed very fast if there is more than one invader. Aldrich is pretty week and average SL120 players can do up to 1000 damage per hit.
>>160256080
He might have enjoyed it
>>160256080
True thatno worse fate than being a faggot
>>160256091
I meant more "how do you get attacks to come out", actually. Is it like spells?
>>160256080
I think burning alive for a thousand years, going totally crazy, getting killed by some randy who might then undo all the work you did, then being subsumed into another burning mass is worse, especially when even after all this everything you tried to save and preserve goes to shit anyways and everything you cared about dies
>>160255970
They were still bad. 3 features the first usable sunlight spear(save for unpatched 2) and it still sucks.
The other games have no good faith spells except for WoG and healing(which is very anticlimatic), everything else is a retard filter, as it is on 3 and hey, if you can trick bad players with TWoP and heavenly thunder, you should be able to trick them into poise trading.
>>160256237
I have custom binds on xbox 360 controller for all his attacks and I move around using left analog stick, right analog stick for camera.
>>160256329
Pulling off the trade is god damn easy, but its not a faith thing, and requires no casting thought. Its just hit r2 and you win
I was still able to use it in 1 ( not under a hybrid class, mind you) but it was usable. 2 had enough spells and slots that you can actually use the spells and have some fun with it. there were multiple ways to use the spell (and again, at range, like youre supposed to with a ranged spell)
but in 3, its just ds1 with trade opportunities. Its possible, and it can be good, but its not fun. Its not really faith feeling. Lightning steak is great, thats what its meant for
but sunlight spears need a rework or something because theyre useless theyre just 50 faith stakes
Do you guys think that removing refined infusions would have a positive or negative impact in PvP and just the game in general?
>don't give a flying fuck about Londor, The Sable Church, The Angels, or any of this other bullshit Miyazaki introduced in DaS3
>the last piece of real Dark Souls content ever will almost certainly focus exclusively on these
>>160256681
>a fighter who is both fast and strong is better than the one who is just strong or just fast
hue
right now nothing stops you from making one combat stat-builds and they will be extremely viable at lower levels, removing quality accomplishes nothing
>>160256872
the last piece of real dark souls content was aota
>>160256872
Well, Londor and the Sable Church tie in with the Primordial Serpents and the Abyss, which is as old-school DaS1 as lore can get, you stupid slut.
>>160241584
>meta builds invalidate the viability of other builds
Truly the mindset of someone who has played too much DaS3.
>>160257050
It will just be some nicely modeled gothic architecture with some spooky, slimy Abyss shit towards the end.
>>160257170
WHAT IF
LISTEN HERE GUYS
JUST WHAT IF
LISTEN
WHAT IFThe Abyss Dragon the Millwood Knights fled from is actually Kaathe and we're gonna end up fighting him.
>>160257097
they invalidated viability of other builds in ds2 harder than they do in ds3
virtually nothing short for some other extreme meta setups can defeat even the most braindead ds2 estoc turtle
braindead ds3 turtle is just going to be raped by dark weapons or chipped to death with warpicks
>>160249232
Too many NPCs on screen at once. When that happens, sometimes they'll go into what is called "Omission Mode", which has a few different levels. Depending on what level it's at, you'll see things like Cloth physics being ignored, and frames of animations being skipped.
This is actually kind of how the teleporting dog thing works. Because of how NPC Position data and animations are handled during Omission mode, it can cause an NPC that is offscreen to lurch forward, suddenly putting themselves onscreen and requiring them to be fully rendered.
>>160257248
the abyss dragon could be
1) kalameet
2) kaathe
3) pilgrim butterfly fuckery
4) something else entirely...There is no path. Beyond the scope of light, beyond the reach of Dark…what could possibly await us?
>>160257519
It will be just a random dragon that comes out of nowhere and shoots abyss fire
>>160257519
If we don't get SOMETHING on Aldia i will throw a fit.
He's the only one that has done something really interesting, and ignoring him is pissing me off
>>160257742
Didn't you hear?
DaS2 isn't canon.
>>160257493
>>160250465
>Remember the scrapped concept for a hidden entrance to the catacombs behind the statue in Firelink Shrine in DS1?
No? I've never heard anyone say they thought it was supposed to lead to the catacombs, it's always been speculated it went to Firelink Altar.
>>160257742
Aldia has done nothing aside from spouting pretentious bullshit a few times. Him transforming into a big pile of rotting shit that somehow can travel across the dimensions stinks of fanfiction.
>>160250723
Probably Yhorm, thanks to his massive HP.
>>160258142
>pretentious
There's that word again.
>>160257742
Aldia was worthless and didn't even do anything interesting in his own game. Why would they reuse him. Even the fight was lame as hell.
>>160254513
But DS3 is still a good game.
Is there any boss fight in DS2 that you would consider good?
STR builds are so good for SL60-70 invasions right now.
>millwood axe murders typical in like 3, rarely 4 swings
>millwood greatbow allows some hilarious sniping shenanigans
>javelin has one of the highest pure physical AR in spear class and HA on a throw
>mace, warpick hard counter a lot of stupid shit
>offhand yhorms is still godly and it's even easier to tank with it after HA boost
It's a shame shitters are starting to catch up on a pickaxe tho.
>>160258586
Darklurker, Velstadt, Fume, Alonne, Sinh, Ivory King minust the gauntlet, Aava, Pursuer was alright.
Most of the bosses were alright, just a bit easy
Can i drop stuff on to my character with CE offline then go online without risking ban?
>>160256681
Nothing would change.
We'd only get good results if it was removed along with sharp and geavy.
Don't like a weapon's physical scalings? Too bad, you can't change it
>>160257742
>he doesn't ''''''get'''''' the true lore
Aldia and the Bearer of the Curse escaped the cycle, beyond the realm of dark and light. This means that they're the only ones who did it; the only ones with the strength to escape the convoluted shitty excuse of a canon that is Souls series. Hence why DS2 isn't canon, because they, quite literally, escaped the (future) cycle (of development for the games).
Well, what is it? Are you woke now? I bet you are.
Make something Souls related
>>160258739
Only if the character has never been online or saved to the server
If it's been online before you're probably getting banned. Or not, there's no real way of telling
Totally offline on new character seems to besafe though, for now.
>>160258586
Vanilla DS2?
Darklurker was pretty amazing, if you ask me.
As for the DLCs, Fume Knight was top-tier.
Though, if you ignore the re-used assets (which just were the models, really, and had nothing to do with the boss-mechanics) Elana, the Squalid Queen has to be my favourite boss fight.
I'd even go so far to consider it to be in my top three of any Souls game.
>>160258586
95% of ds2 bosses are absolute garbage to fight, they are a combination of boring movesets, boring music, complete predictability, repeating tactics and attack patterns across all humanoid bosses, with boring music being the worst crime because i tend to forgive a lot of shit if OST is good.
Alonne, Ivory and maybe Darklurker probably the only somehow fun boss to fight. Fume is the most overhyped boss fight in the entire franchise, especially considering his garbage OST.
It's also hilarious how Aldia ended up being even more shitty than Shitshandra as far as final bosses go.
>Kill hosts phantoms and blue phantom
>He rolls around until he can summon more and another blue is summoned
Why am I still playing this game
>>160258915
Ok so basically just stay offline when starting a new game then?
>>160258917
It's refreshing to see someone appreciate the bosses you liked that everyone else shit on here. Coolio
>>160258961
Vacstab summoner class players. If he's going to be human garbage, no reason to play fair.
I was going through some descriptions, and is anything else said about the demon prince Lorian killed other than his sword's description?
I miss boss designs like this. Just grotesque shit.
>>160258586
Darklurker.
Sentinels and gank squad are the only good tracks
>>160259189
Adjudicator is one of the most Zelda bosses in the series, right next to the Old Iron King.
>>160259189
Me too, have some more grotesque shit.
>>160259251
Old Iron King was such a shit boss fight. I hate giant bosses that slam their fists down for you to poke away at.
>>160259358
OVER THE LINE!!!
>>160259358
WE LIVE HUMBLE LIVES!!
LEAVE US BE!!
MAY YOU ROT IN THE DEEPEST DEPTHS OF THIS SWAMP!!
>>160258992
There's just something about having to keep moving the entire time, striking once and running away again, trying to keep the Velstadt clone away, while still having to avoid the various spells of Elana - and constantly having to be aware of what Elana is doing, as she could teleport and melee anytime, etc.
There's just so much stuff going on in this fight, it's amazing.
Everyone who says that the fight is unfair or shit was either locking on like a retard and tried to kill the adds, or used summons, who made the fight way too easy/boring.
I remember Homeward-Bone-ing out/intentionally getting myself killed like 20 times in a row when I had her down to 10%, just so I could do it over and over again, because I enjoyed the fight so much.
The only bosses that come somewhat close mechanic-wise are probably the Twin Princes - and Friede.
With the latter probably being my favorite boss of any Souls game so far.
>>160259604
https://youtu.be/cJdqLXHfofg
>Elena
My man. This was the good shit.
What's the artwork supposed to be, is this Aldia fanart?
>>160259189
I think Gaping Dragon, Watchdog of the Old Lords and Adjudicator were good examples of non-humanoid bosses that also had a really nice "fucked up"-aspect to them.
>>160259814
>What's the artwork supposed to be, is this Aldia fanart?
That's actually official concept art of Alsanna.
>>160259814
A Fanart concept of Caitha.
>>160259358
disgusting wtf delet now
How would you rank each game'sgank squadaccording to their power level?
>>160259946
No, it isn't. See:
http://tarakanovich.deviantart.com/art/Dark-Souls-2-Caitha-s-concept-art-475169114
>>160260103
Who is Caitha? I don't remember her
>>160260184
a dark goddess worshipped in Carim
>>160260184
The Goddess of Fightclubs.
>get summoned for twin princes
>host lets me and another guy wait for 15 minutes because he REALLY wants that 4th phantom
>proceeds to die in the first 20 seconds of the fight
Thanks for the great co-oping experience friendo
PRAISE LE SUN HUEHUE xD xD
>>160260301
I always BC the fuck out if the host wastes time waiting for more summon signs to appear
I'll never understand this kind of "players"
>>160260184
>Caitha, the goddess of tears, is known as a compassionate being that is with us in times of tragedy, but some believe that she is a demoness that guides us toward misfortune.
>Caitha, goddess of tears, mourns the undeserving dead, shedding tears as red as blood. It is said that the stone set in this ring is one such tear.
>Caitha, goddess of tears, mourns those who have lost loved ones by shedding pure tears of blue. It is said that the stone set in this ring is one such tear.
>>160260184
A goddess from dark souls 2. In dark souls 3, Carim decided to merge their way of white belief with her in a form of syncretism. They also denounced Lloyd as a fraud.
>>160260240
>>160260415
>Caitha, goddess of tears
>The Goddess of Fightclubs
you glorious motherfucker
>Dried finger invasion
>Kill hosts phantoms
>Second red sees you fighting the host 1v1
>Doesn't jump in
If you do this you should probably kill yourself
>>160260415
>>160260423
Seems like a nice lady
>>160260652
A perfect god to worship as a knight(of carim). A lady of the lake in a sense.
Caitha a shit Fina a best REEEEEEE
>It's a phantom who sits back using throwing knives while I proceed to shit on the host ignoring the damage from the knives completely
Gotta question the intelligence of some of these players.
>>160260547
second red will just be a bother in 1vs1
he will hit you as much as he will hit host
Holy fuck Resonant Souls is good why would I ever even dark orb
>>160261045
That's not true unless they're retarded. It's not hard to be careful with your attacks so that you aren't just hitting the other guy.
Friendly fire is inevitable but sitting and back and doing nothing is literally useless. The extra pressure and damage is really helpful.
What's the objectively best mage pvp build?
Rapier+spells or Moonlight greatsword shenanigans?
>>160260946
Fina LITERALLY is a slut.
>The face is crafted to depict the goddess's embrace, quite ignoring the fact that her love is in fact as fickle as the weather.
Everybody knows that there's only ONE pure maiden worthy of worship.
>>160261153
Your pure maiden has laid thousands of eggs.
SLUT.
This what the community has become
>>160261045
True but both of you will kill the host faster with your combined attacks and the increased pressure will likely make him fuck up so his chances of death are even higher
The faster and easier he dies, the better chances of you both gettign your reward.
ls Frieda the last boss from the dlc? Once you kill her that's it? Not even a fucking dialogue or a cinematic? ls this literally the shortest DLC from has ever made?
>>160261150
A build doesn't have to compromise between the two. MGS is pretty good now, but when fighting against something you can't trade with a Rapier is a better option. An INT build at 120 can carry a MGS and a Rapier with CMW, and some spells.
>>160261657
yes it literally is
>>160238170
They tried
They introduced a lot of gameplay and world ideas that diverged from what had been done in Dark Souls and Demon's Souls, and had originally attempted to make a completely different style of world before being forced to scrap it and cobble together what remained into the finished product
By comparison, pretty much everything about Dark Souls 3 apart from objective improvements in responsiveness and gameplay feels limp and rote, like the people who were making the game were staring at Dark Souls 1 the entire time. The fact that the most ambitious addition to the game is the reintroduction of a system they had in Demon's Souls and the addition of mediocre Weapon Arts tells you everything you need to know, and for all it's faults, I can respect the fact that DS2 had ambition.
>>160261657
Go back to chatty bird man and chibi-painter for your epilogue. Since when have Souls DLCs ended with a cinematic?
>>160261238
lol
>>160261657
Is Sinh the last boss from the dlc? Once you kill him that's it? Not even a fucking dialogue or a cinematic? Is this literally the shortest DLC from has ever made?
>>160255786
>not being released because of crying reddit fags
great
>>160261894
Sunken DLC was larger than this piece of shit
>>160261657
ls Raime the last boss from the dlc? Once you kill him that's it? Not even a fucking dialogue or a cinematic? ls this literally the shortest DLC from has ever made?
>>160261974
no it isnt
>>160261153
>Everybody knows that there's only ONE pure maiden worthy of worship.
the one that you left to die alone or the boring, voiceless psycho?
>>160261894
Is DLC the last DLC from the DLC? Once you download that's it? Not even a fucking download or a content? Is this literally the shortest DLC From has ever DLC?
>>160261657
ls Manus the last boss from the dlc? Once you kill him that's it? Not even a fucking dialogue or a cinematic? ls this literally the shortest DLC from has ever made?
>>160259427
>Old Iron King was such a shit boss fight. I hate giant bosses that slam their fists down for you to poke away at.
I always thought it was a Dragon God/Ceaseless Discharge reference.
ng+7 in ds3 is a fucking joke
>>160260946
>>160261153
>>160261207
>>160262049
HHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH
>>160262073
when I first saw The Old Iron King I thought they were going to make him like I hoped the Dragon God was going to be like in DeS before I found out it was just an easy puzzle boss. I hope that made sense. Was so fucking disappointed with the OIK boss fight goddamn. I think Dragon God might be more thrilling to be honest.
>>160261070
because you get a million casts and it's really spammy
>>160262153
Doran is that you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qutYD5UMhTY
>>160262294
The hole in the middle of the OIK platform is harder than OIK himself.
Why is DaS3 such a bad Souls game?
Is it Tanimura's fault? As far as I know he wasn't involved with the development of Bloodborne, and that turned out a lot better than DaS3 did.
The two Souls games he had a significant role in turned out pretty bad.
>It's a yet another cancelled Demon's Souls series-episode
>>160259481
>Garl's Set in DS3 never
>A good looking Greathammer with a non-trash moveset in DS3 never
It hurts
Where's my fucking Demon's Souls remaster Sony
Is there any casting tool in the game that allows the casting of Pyromancy and Sorcery? I want to include Chaos Bed Vestiges on my pure mage, since I have 2 open slots, and rather not be cycling through too many spells.
>>160262294
To be fair I think Old Iron King was done right. We already know how giant bosses played out in ds2, and the way they did him was better than the usual 'whack at their ankles for 10 minutes' boss.
They could have given him a more varied moveset, but side from that I think it was fine.
>>160254324
The legs on slave knight piss me off to no end. Why can't we ever wear pants under armor? Exposed legs are retarded
>>160262592
>I have 2 open slots
ahn
>>160262509
>Why is DaS3 such a bad Souls game?
Dark Souls 3 is a good souls game, I don't know what you're talking about.
>and that turned out a lot better than DaS3 did
Bloodborne is great because Sony pumped a lot of development bucks in it and it was handled by Japan Studio. Miyafucki also got to create a completely new I.P and wasn't chained to the restrictive Dark Souls setting.
>implying Mememura did anything except supervise multiplayer balance
why was ds2 phantom ai so much better
>>160254324
it doesn't have the best thing about the crimson set, so no, it isn't
>>160262671
>>160262514
he's probably burnt the fuck out on soul's games
I'm honestly surprised he's still playing them,
>>160262509
It's because of Miyazaki wanting to force Bloodborne into 3, that's why it's subpar and worse than 1 and 2.
>>160262658
For gladiator costly. You know that's why they added it, it was also perfect timing with Valor heart.
>>160262658
But that's what makes it the best legs.
>>160262690
>why was ds2 phantom ai so much better
More custom scripting.
For example, DS3 Vilhelm is pretty "intelligent" since he's leashed pretty well, he's scripted to use Vow of Silence when the player tries to cast shit, he heals when he gets on low hp and is good at dodging.
For example, Maldron is scripted very tightly to do what he does, the A.I itself is okay, but the illusion of him being smart is because the encounter is carefully scripted.
>>160262690
because it would literally cheat
>roll out of bs animation
>roll out of pancake
>animation canceling out the ass
ls the painting woman a crossbreed?
>>160251642
>>160252108
>>160262954
why dont we have more of that in ds3
>>160262848
maybe if he did ANYTHING at all except spam r2 with balder side sword in endless das1 playthroughs he wouldn't be so burnt out
>>160262982
she's priscilla's daughter, confirmed by miyazaki
>>160263074
source tho
>>160263074
who banged Prsicilla? Did she reproduce asexually? Did she lay eggs?
>>160263126
here: >>160263074
Just fought Oceiros.
What the actual fuck was going on?
Where's the baby?
I read descriptions of his items, sure the power of moonlight eluded him, but I fucking HEARD a baby during that fight.
Who, what, and where is Ocelotte?
I beat DS3 back when it came out in April and haven't touched it since. With the first DLC out I thought I'd come back and give the game another run. I usually play knights and was wondering how I should shape my guy after all the patches and updates since release.
Painting Woman is _______
>>160263021
The average dark souls 3 player is smart enough not to fall for such tricks, they'd kill Maldron before he could run
>>160262848
>he's probably burnt the fuck out on soul's games
Yeah, that's why he starts a million of DS1 projects and actually finishes them.
>starts playing Bloodborne
>think this is finally gonna be it and he'll play Old Hunters too
>he does "speed runs, barely getting past Gasgoicne
>drops it quietly
>starts playing Demon's Souls
>completely stops playing it about a third of the way into the game
His work ethic went down the shitter when he started streaming on Twitch
>>160263269
a qt loli and not for lewd
>>160263265
Pure mage.
Enjoy your easy mode.
>>160263327
why dont we have ai like this >>160249084
>>160261754
The Old Hunters is the only one that did, after slaying the Nightmare.
>>160263151
that pyro dude fucked Priscilla
Anyone got that webm of ds2 with the "thor" guy that spins around shooting lightning then flys away?
>>160263151
>Did she lay eggs?
E-elaborate.
Just for the l-lore, y'know.
>>160263151
>priscilla laying eggs
OH BABY
>>160263269
able to use many animations.
>>160263391
Time for a Xanthous King cosplay.
>tfw unironically like the Fallen Knight Set
>>160263337
>His work ethic went down the shitter when he started streaming on Twitch
NEWFAG.
His work ethic went down the shitter when he lied about Dark Souls 2 (or if he really considered any area in Dark Souls 2 to be comparable to Tower of Latria is up to debate but I'd say he was lying) and then spouted shit about the Beast mode for Bloodborne.
Never forgetti.
>>160262982
yes she's halfcorvian
>>160263570
I mean the ds3 madman pyro, forgot his nameJeremiah might've fucked her too, though
>mfw Bed of Chaos was originally supposed to fight you directly
http://imgur.com/a/pszD0
>>160263410
I think that's it.
Maybe not.
I'm just blindly posting a .webm from my DS folder.
Hornet ring shouldn't have been nerfed.
>>160263629
>that t-pose
spooky
>>160263391
priscilla is the hideous daughter of donnel and his hideous unnamed wife
>>160263615
what precisely is a corvian anyway
were the ds1 crow bitches corvians?
is sullyvahn a corvian?
>>160263686
errr no but I appreciate the attemp.
>>160263735
Yes and maybe. He kinda has wings in phase 2.
>>160263587
>tfw use mainstream as fuck nameless king chestplate
>>160263021
>>160263379
>why dont we have more of that in ds3
Dark Souls 2 only had custom scripted A.I like that in the DLCs. I think DLCs are generally better because the base game has to go through a lot of revisions and content gets scrapped and rethought, and since the DLCs are at least partially cut content or at least there's a lot less shit to do, they can focus on quality instead of quantity.
>>160263609
>that pic
LIES! There has been no area reaching close to Latria-levels of spookiness except in BB with Upper Cathedral Ward and the dlc's Research Hall area.
Marcus was such a goddamn shill. ugh
>>160263609
I'd say the Gutter is pretty damn atmospheric.
Not Latria tier, but still good, better than what DaS3 has.But Valley of Defilement is LITERALLY the most atmospheric area in the series
What level do people usually stop at? Haven't played in a while and have been out of the loop.
>>160263337
There's a reason he doesn't like to play Bloodborne, anon.
>>160263820
but that webm is not in any of the dlcs, its in the no mans wharf
>>160263735
Crow - Crov - Corv - Corvian
A nice rule of thumb as anything relating to corvians seems to be crow-themed.
>>160263720
We already know that's wrong.
Priscilla is a being who was put in the painted world not too long after the age of the gods, during the age of fire. When she was birthed/created exactly, we do not know, but O'Donnell came long after this time. In Priscilla's time I remember there being no King of the Painted World. Although we do know that since the time of Dks1 the Painted world was burnt and remade many times, Priscilla simply being the first painter.
>>160263735
sullys mom is a birch tree so id assume hes more tree than bird
>>160263957
it isn't in the dlc's, but iirc old knight brad wasn't added until SOTFS, so it isn't base game either
>>160263686
>>160263957
It's from Scholar, which you might as well count as DLC because they were sure fine with charging you money for it.
>>160263957
isn't that a softs added npc summon?
>>160263992
>Crow - Crov - Corv - Corvian
Really, anon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvus
>>160263992
So what about pope sillyman? He's from the painted world and grows wings in the second phase, but lacks other corvian characteristics. Maybe he's some kind of crossbreed?
>>160264021
>Priscilla simply being the first painter
Ariamis was the first painter you nignog
that's why Priscilla's in his/her world, nowhere is it implied that she's a painter
>>160264021
time is convoluted :^)
>>160264121
Welp, shows how much I know about birds.
Also, english is not my first language so cut me some slack on this one.
>>160264064
oh really, i never summoned in base game so i didnt know. since ds3 was in dev before ds2 does that mean that it was just rushed and thats why we dont have cool ai
>>160264021
>Priscilla is a being who was put in the painted world not too long after the age of the gods, during the age of fire.
Priscilla wasn't put into the painted world, she fled into it. It's not a prison, it's a refuge.
>Priscilla simply being the first painter.
Priscilla wasn't a painter.
>>160264190
He's basically a walking archtree branch possessing a body.
I just want to have a fun weapon and enjoy the game again ...
>>160264202
My bad.
I meant from within the painted world, sorry.
Of course there is no evidence, but honestly who else would? So far we have no contenders, so it's my belief so far.
>>160263410
Gotchu senpai
>>160264265
DS2 had horrible AI on release anyway, and brad/mauldron were the only memorable ones. Actually NPC summons like Lucatiel were known for walking off of bridges in the warf in the base game, and weren't even fixed in SOTFS.
>>160264024
How would you know that, have you seen his fucking family photo or something?
>>160264216
> In Lordran
>>160264338
I want this thing back so bad
>>160264190
Corvians don't seem to be something you have to be born into being. The DaS1 designworks interview says the original Corvians were humans who underwent a transformation.
>>160264338
just go back to BB or DaS2. That's what I have been contemplating. In BB every weapon is amazing and in DaS2 there is so much build variety and it has my weaponfu the bonefist. I really hope they add it into DaS3 dammit...
>>160264348
>>160264287
>>160264202
Aaaactually
Now that I thiiiink about it
while Priscilla might look more like Friede considering that she's got a scythe and doesn't want anyone busting the world up, her weapon actually inflicts self-bleed like Ariandel's (the painter's) flail. Can just anyone shed blood for the world, or does it have to be the painter?
>>160264504
>no corvian transformation available for the player
>>160260098
1. Demon's Souls, solely because of Alfred, Knight of the Tower and his bullshit 700 AR scraping spear that can kill you from 50 VIT NG on PWWT in 2 shield pokes
2. Dark Souls 2's graverobbers, they complement each other and are difficult to cheese
3. Bloodborne, the guy with the infinite ammo cannon is a cunt if he chooses to be
4. Dark Souls 3, very easy to cheese behind a wall
>>160264380
my fucking sides, every time. THanks anon.
>>160264384
Jester Thomas was also cool. And there's an NPC in Earthen Peak that guides you to burn the windmill
>>160264530
I played through BB again recently, Chalice Dungeons and all, and it was so much better than DaS3. What a disappointment honestly. I remember being so excited for DaS3 after BB because 'holy shit if this is this good DaS3 will be amazing'...
>>160264385
The Sulytree theory comes from there being an NPC Birch Woman in the DLC and cut dialogue where the speaker is in hysterics looking for her lost son. People are assuming the dialogue belongs to the Birch Woman and that the son in question is Plaintiff Sillyman.
>>160264590
>the painter
a painter*
>>160264336
>anor londo, lothric and countless ashenfags got BTFO by a stick
can't make this shit up
>>160264593
>DLC was supposed to be about PvP and Covenants
>Released a bunch of 6 hit weapons
>0 rewards arena
>No added covenant depth
>No Corvian covenant
>>160264729
People assume this because there's a sorcery behind the tree that directly references Sulyvahn, and once you know he may be a tree his face and branch-like wings make much more sense.
>>160263519
CUTE
>>160264739
Sticks are the most powerful things in existence anon
>>160264229It's latin.
>>160263189
Ocelotte, Child of Dragons
Priscilla the half breed
Think about what Priscilla can do.
>>160264695
>Jester Thomas was also cool.
Thomas in the base game didn't have good AI, he just had Forbidden Sun. If you let him fight Mytha by himself, he gets destroyed almost every time because he just tries to cast right in her face and has no poise.
>And there's an NPC in Earthen Peak that guides you to burn the windmill
That's one of the Scholar NPCs.
The point >>160264384 was making was that the basegame AIs were terrible and they were. They got better with the DLC and Scholar additions, but there's no arguing how bad the basegame ones were.
>>160263948
I don't get it
>>160264590
The lifehunt scythe didn't bleed Priscilla, read its description
>>160264917
Even she, a woman could only do that for a few seconds.
What could a mere baby do?
>>160260098
Dark Souls 2's gank squad is the hardest because you can't really stop for a decent time, and you can't reliably dps one of them to death before another one is on you.
Dark Souls 1's gank squad can't be cheesed by gravity but the individual NPCs don't have a lot of health and you can get them into the narrow walkways, where you have the advantage.
Dark Souls 3's gank squad can be tough because Kamui will meme on you with Oroboro and Uberhaxornova but they have very little health and can be cheesed with the terrain by either going the ladder down to the Archives or the elevator.
Demon's Souls gank squad is very easy to pull 1v1 with a bow.
>>160265069
that was probably just gameplay balance, a 100% invisible boss would be bullshit
The painter loli is actually Ariamis, she says she'll paint a "very gentle place" referencing Priscilla's future "This land is peaceful, its inhabitants kind" comment, it's because Priscilla will be the one who take up home in this painting-to-be
y'all thinking about it wrong order
>>160264927
Yeah but he also said
>and brad/mauldron were the only memorable ones
Maldron being a DLC exclusive, so i pointed out that Thomas and the EP phantom were pretty alright as well.
>>160263189
>Where's the baby?
have you noticed squashing sounds and muffled crying coming from Oceiros every time he uses his left hand to either move or attack you
Has anyone ever tried the Corvan Great Scythe on a luck build?
>>160265027
Bloodborne's lore is heavy on malformed fetuses and red jellies and shit like that. This didn't jive very well with what was going on with his family at the time.
If you don't understand the meme picture :http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cadbortion-loss-edits
>>160265235
no, you will be the first one, anon
>>160265134
I dunno anon, I fight 100% invisible people all the time.
>>160265069
It only has to do it for a few seconds, because a short while into the fight the baby goes splat and Oceiros loses it. Hiding the baby is more about Fromsoft using subtle implications rather than outright showing what's going on.
After all, they cut the sound effect out.
>>160265280
I fucking hate that face.. FUCKING SHAVE! YOU LOOK RIDICULOUS!
AND THE WORST PART IS HE HAS AN OK LOOKING GF!
>>160265235
yeah
luck is a useless stat that does basically nothing for status buildup even at 99
>>160263189
>Where's the baby?
It's the hidden 5th member of the Lothric royal family.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PQ4E3dzC7g
>tfw
>>160265280
Is that jimmy nu-tron?
>>160265456
GOTTA BLAST!
>>160265529
Lanza de luz solar! jajajaja!
>>160265280
Who is this faggot?
At least Vaati looks like a proper Aryan supermodel if it wasn't for his hideous ears.
>>160265451
The baby doesn't go splat, his fucking staff is destroyed. He doesn't toss it or drop it or anything, it's destroyed.
Baby is still a mystery.
>>160265687
>Dumbo ears
>Pretty wide nose
>A fucking manlet
>Annoying, monotone, pretentious voice
>>160265687
>>160265069
>Even she, a woman could only do that for a few seconds.
Priscilla can stay invisible for as long as she wants until she's staggered.
>>160265793
As far as the pillars go, he, Lobos and BarneezyJones are the most normal looking ones.
>>160261023
I wreck shit with throwing knives fampai, you must be a fool youre playing against.
>>160265895
who are these?
>>160265793
Don't forget his huge head to shoulder ratio, what you see here >>160265687 is the entirety of his shoulder span
>>160265895
The only normal looking one out of everything there was the tomato, maybe the far left guy too.
>>160265784
>There's an actual mesh for a skeletal model in Oceiros' hands named Baby
>There's an unused texture for a disgusting looking baby model in the game files
>There's another version of the unused texture with blood on it called Baby_Dead
>There's sound effects of a baby crying during the fight
>The following sound file exists and is unused: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6vCZdcp6hE
Clearly, still a mystery.
>>160260301
>Have sign outside of Friede
>Gets summoned, host waits a long time for another sign
>Summon another guy
>He proceeds to run outside the chapel
>Nigga, am i meant to babysit you down the damn branches?
>We inch our way down because the host is walking at a snails pace, all the while he is getting molested by the archers
>Finally get down and he heads for the doggo gank squad
>Host has used most of his estus on his way there
>Runs and hides while me and the other summon kills shit
>Big doggo shows up
>Goes full sanic mode and we can't kill the bastard
>Host dies like a bitch while cowering in a corner
>Place my sign down again, gets summoned by same guy
>I BC out
>>160266024
Oh.
>>160265975
Left to right
>BarneezyJones
>Oroboro
>Someone i don't know
>DreadedCone
>A(((German)))Spy
>RBFrosty
>JerpDoesGames
>Adam Sessler
>Some bitch
Everyone except Sessler and the bitch is a Twitch streamer, i don't know what the baldie with his hands in the air is
>>160265687
Now that you mention it. He kinda looks like B.J Blazkowicz's limp-wristed younger cousin.
>>160265895
*tips fedora*
>>160266293
Mentlegen
>>160266232
there's no way adam could put on that much weight with his coke addiction
>>160266006
They're all pretty normal looking aside from AGS.
Do you not go outside or something? They all look like regular people.
How in the almighty fuck do I defeat Farron Greatsword?
That R2 is so safely spammable against so many weapons, I feel like my builds that can't switch something super safe on fast just get completely fucked.
>>160266293
A German Fedora is a gigantic spaghetti manhttps://youtu.be/D3Wa4bx6t-A?t=5762
>>160266232
>jerp
I still remember this fat fuck being extremely upset at trying to invade me and getting literally destroyed.
Does anyone have a WebM of Lady Maria's riposte animation?
I need it.
>>160266741
No, they look like basement dwellers you fuck.
Sorry, but they do, tomato included, but he has a very 'you look like that guy' face.
Far left guy looks like you might even catch him in the gym once a week at least.
>>160261993
Actually. Alonne.
The painter girl is cute.CUTE!
>>160266942
I don't believe you go outside much honestly. None of these people strike me as irregular aside from the fedora and the fatty I guess. They look nerdy, sure, but that's far from irregular.
These people would not stand out on a busy street whatsoever.
>>160263189
Since nobody really answered you, there is no baby. There is no Ocelotte. The entire thing was supposed to be a super edgy Bloodborne-tier boss where Ocerios smashes the baby into the ground and crushes it for being useless.
Miyazaki was pulled to the side by his peers and they basically said "we can't add this shit in dude wtf?".
They scrapped it all at the last minute and so what we have is an unfinished boss. You were likely going to be able to see a crushed Ocelotte after the boss fight and interact with it to gain an item(specifically a dragon/lore related item that was scrapped but can be found in the files or check the cut content on the wiki).
>>160263151
>>160263479
I want this more than I should. Fuck.
>>160266749
It's the L1 that is the anime spin.
You can parry the initial dagger plunge but beyond that, it has such immense poise and constant hyper armor that it's the probably the best UGS right now. There isn't much you can do at all.
>>160267094
But I said they look like basement dwellers, not irregular. Both are still not 'normal' looking.
Nice try, I hope you're one of them.
>>160266232
Is spy autistic?
>>160267284
Not him but most of them don't. I see people like them outside ALL THE TIME.
>>160266749
>Take out a bow or crossbow.
>Bait them to breakdance and then shoot them.
>Repeat until they get annoyed and stop.
>>160267423
>Take out bow or crossbow
Well shit, why would I even try to spin now?
Anyone good using spin to win, has a very good mlg life
>>160263151
>>160263424
She lays eggsout of her dragon penis
>>160267407
Is that even a real question?
>>160267407
You tell me bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoyRcGkDnJo
>>160267560
P-pics or it didn't happen..
>>160267423
That's when I pull out Onikiri and Ubadachi for some running attacks followed by onislayer over your rolling attack.
pcfcbf
>>160267407
>start to watch his DaS3 videos because he seemed like a nice guy on the SBFP DeS streams
>slow as fuck, and his channel has playlists about tea, but okay, whatever
>come episode 7, there's a massive rant in the video description linking to his Twitter; the entire video is a big baww-fest about how people on the internet are meen u guise
>comments section is sucking his dick
>never visit his channel again, start to actively resent the thin-skinned pussy's contribution to the DeS streams
Fuck Spy.
>>160267584
I mean for real, yeah I don't know much about him. From his m'lady behavior and his ds3 playthrough I'm inclined to believe he is. He was super rigid about not leveling dex ONCE to use the weapons he actually wanted and complained about his greataxe the whole way through, because demon's souls of all things didn't have a dex req on greatswords. This despite all other games requiring at least ten. He grinded and did repetitive shit to obscenity. He went out of his way to use the largest sentences possible and the biggest words he knew to say really simple and easy to say things.
Then the fucking fedora to top it off. He really seems to be autistic.
>>160267820
Wow, what a faggot you must be IRL
>Memezaki took the idea for second phase music transitions from ACVD DLC of all things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zJBsrFa4i8
https://lichess.org/MiGL6wYH
>>160267820
>5 fucking blue estus
why is from so retarded
>>160268303
Pure ages need them.
Allowing heal spells was the idiocy.
>all the 120 invasion spots are gank squads
I just want some convenant shit.
>>160268001
Yeah that was my experience too. I was pretty much with him up until that video and from then on he just kept on revealing more and more what a piece of shit he was.
>>160268463
You should be thankful.
Meta levels concentrate the two biggest cancers to souls community, duelfags and gankers, in a single SL, allowing you to just pick other levels which are plain better.
I'm showing /dsg/ to a friend, would you all be sweethearts and say hello.
>>160268438
You barely need 2 as a pure mage.
t. pure mage
>>160268773
Is your friend single? Will he come to FCs?
>>160268773
>I'm showing /dsg/ to a friend
You have no friends.
>>160268463
Invading the DLC is pretty fun.
>Dried finger invasion
>Kill the host's phantoms
>Second invader and I are chasing the host
>He starts running across the bridge
>Break the bridge and the red and I watch as he falls to his death
>Clap
>>160268651
> Dueling is cancer
If you like invading, that's fine, but fighting someone at equal level for the sake of simply seeing which of you can make use of what you have at that point in the game best, is just competitive spirit anon.
>>160268773
I'm enjoying bloodborne at the moment so tell your fuccboi friend to come over to the cool general
>>160268782
That's because sorcerer spells are cheap. Try using pure fth
>>160268157
>AC6 never ever
>>160268967
The problem with pure faith is that they don't hit people. That's why they seem expensive in comparison. But a well placed lightning stake will outdamage anything a competitive pure sorc casts (soul mass and affinity lel)
So.
DaS3 is dead (for good) once For Honor comes out in February, yes? I mean it's basically everything souls PvP *should* be.
>>160268942
>Wait until I'm done buffing! No duel charms, this is a DUEL!
>stop using estus I'm too shit to punish it and I don't have hunter charms!
>>160268782
Contrary to popular belief pure mages can't always get 50 atunement. You shouldn't have to dedicate yourself to literally 2 stats to be a pure mage. Even a 66 str build can invest safely in 3 stats.
For the Izalith staff in das3 can I get the most out of it for normal sorceries without leveling faith?
On the wiki it says it only takes your intelligence into account for sorcery damage but you need faith to get the maximum spell buff so I'm not sure.
>>160269120
Who said 50 att? I go 30 and never use more than 2 estus. Are you spamming CRYSTAL magicks like an idiot?
>>160269108
unless I can invade normies on PvE runs I don't care
>>160269120
>50 ATT
That's fucking retarded anyway.
You chug for less than 30 ATT worth of FP, so 24-30 is best.
>>160269206
>implying normies still play this game anymore
Just look at the twitch viewer numbers man, game is dead as fuck. Also you can only crush noobies with your DMB winswords or LB DS axe so many times before it gets boring.
>>160268942
It's clearly a thing forced by Namco and I'm glad duelfags will get the middle finger from From again in their next spiritual sequels given how DeS and BB treat dueling.
You guys do your best to destroy Souls games beauty of assymetrical PvP and for that you're as harmful to the game as twinks or gankers
>>160269120
>66 str build can have 40 vig, 40 endurance and 66 str at 120
you're retarded
>>160269113
But I use items in duels all the time.
Wait do idiots REALLY think nobody should use duel charms?
Sorry but Estes in duels IS for fans, especially if the host is dueling. Even with the Lloyd talismans it doesn't matter since they are so easy to dodge, and slapping on a Carthus blood ring and rolling for 60seconds isn't hard.
>>160269325
First it was Tanimura, now it's Namco? lmao, miyacucks are delusional.
>>160269384
>l can't hit with a talisman
Duelfags everyone.
Slowpoke here, just beat DS1.I liked DeS better
Seems like most people say either DS2 or DS3 is the best of the series, and the other is the worst. What's different between 1, 2, and 3 that is so divisive?
>>160269325
BB duels are amazing though because almost anything can be punished if you play properly with most weapons.
>>160269108
>I mean it's basically everything souls PvP *should* be.
I have no interest in a game that's just Souls pvp, that sounds shitty as fuck mang.
But I hope all the pvp retards will flock to it so From can focus on the single player more.
>>160269325
>It's clearly a thing forced by Namco
It's something that the community forced upon Namco and From by requesting it.
I mean, people were having fight clubs in Demon's Souls long before DaS1 was a thing.
>>160269683
t. guy who played bb pvp for 3 hours
>>160269325
What's wrong with twinks? Invasions in the classic form still exist in DS3: Me with my twink and mobs, vs. the host and his 2-3 phantoms trying to get through the level. Sure my guy might be a bit OP but not by that wide of a margin and it's important for that to exist when the odds are so stacked against the invader. At low to mid levels I almost never see seed either, you run into a lot of people legit just going through the level, it's great.
Meta level is fucking cancer though holy shit.
>>160269668
>people say DS3 is the best
literally nobody has ever thought that
>>160269636
5 talismans is literally your only answer to potentially 20 Estus kek
>>160269775
>he play souls for the single player
jesus christ, man...
>>160269205
I only have 2 Estus flasks, so of course.
>>160270036
I play Souls for the unique blend of PvP and PvE, but I prefer the PvE and I think that From should focus in their next game on more passive online multiplay mechanics like what they had with the Bells of Awakening and maybe have shit like players dying in other worlds with big soul piles activating nearby enemies to become black phantoms (similar to Vagrants)
>>160269971
that's not Yuria
>>160269971
Yuria, Elfriede is used goods.
>>160247573
There's a way past the Abyss Watchers???? (please respond)
do you miss this WOG? would you want it back even if everyone would spam it again
>>160263872
>Marcus was such a goddamn shill. ugh
Well, he looks like a jew, what do you expect?
>>160269431
Keep thinking I care about him, he's mostly a figurehead. Namco's effect on the series in undeniable harmful.
>>160269683
That is a thing about PvP in general, not duels.
Regular duels in BB are almost impossible since you need to
>share a chalice glyph with someone else
>both use your bells and assume there's no one around
>use up in your D-pad or hope the guy doesn't abuse his 100% HP
>kill yourself if you win so that you may be "invaded" again
You have to go through so many loops to duel in BB, it's amazing.
>>160269775
Then why was BB like what I said above? It'd have taken From little effort to implement the league arena or whatever you'd call it, yet they didn't. DeS's FCs are also somewhat hard to make.
>>160269891
I'm not talking about 3 specifically. Twinks in other games, specially cruel ones in DeS or 1 were harmful for the online. You want players to be active and in human forms after all, right? If you lose to someone who dealt and recieved slightly less damage and knew more about the game mechanics, you'll still try to go in human form to invade or coop. If a guy just backstabs you for all your HP, you're discouraged so much from trying it that the number of players online gets smaller and that hurts the game activity.
>>160270026
Why not?
>>160270423
well rolling is literally free and has infinite iframes in 3 so it'd be about as good as some other magic. they'd probably make it do no damage to compensate
>>160270423
Did you know you can midroll through Wog spam?
>>160270519
>Twinks in other games, specially cruel ones in DeS or 1 were harmful for the online.
That's fair. DaS3 is the only souls games I ever played, but I've heard the horror stories of PvP in the old games (especially shit like scraping spear) that if (when) I go back and play those games I'll likely do them in offline mode.
>>160270598
it's shit and the dlc is shit, hopefully the next one is good but i have no faith. as of now it is by far the most shallow and uninteresting game in the series
>>160269668
1 had no warping for the first half of the game, which necessitated a more compact and interconnected gameworld. While this resulted in overall less variety in area design (like half of the gameworld is Undead Burg and its side areas, hope you like brown bricks) most people loved the feeling of meaningful shortcuts and the tension of having to climb back up out of Blighttown.
2 was the most "different" of the mainline Souls games, with a different engine, mo-capped animations (this was a budgeting decision that came with using a new engine; mo-cap is cheaper than hand-crafted animations), and various design choices that were relatively radical and ambitious for the time, some of them received well (powerstancing, more equipment/inventory slots, more flexible infusion/buffing rules) and some of them less so (soul memory, a wide sprawling world with warping from the start). A particularly controversial factor in the lifecycle of DaS2 was the decision to target PS3 hardware due to publisher pressure, as opposed to delaying it for the PS4, which resulted in the original graphics engine being severely downgraded, most noticeable in terms of lighting. In addition, the game went through a change of creative director midway through development, as the initial director was found incompetent, leaving Tanimura to pick up the pieces and cobble together some semblance of a playable game with what there was to work with, resulting in some jarring moments like the infamous volcano elevator.
(cont.)
>>160270519
OH NO YOU PUT ME THROUGH THE MINOR INCONVENIENCE OF HAVING TO WALK ALL THE WAY UP HERE AGAIN OR HAVING TO FIX MY STUFF WITH A BLACKSMITH IN THE FUCKING HUB STOP **DESTROYING** MY EXPERIENCE
>Can be invaded while hollow
DOES DARK SOULS 2 DO ANYTHING RIGHT?
ANYTHING AT ALL?
>>160269668
>Seems like most people say either DS2 or DS3 is the best
No one says that. DeS/DaS1/BB are usually said to be the best.
>>160270858
casual faggots like you are what made the series take a steep nosedive into mediocrity
>>160270858
Yes actually.
It did that. That was a good idea. Invasions are fun and it prevents ganks.
>>160270858
decent bait
>>160270858
Many things, that being one of them actually. Too bad it was fucked over by soul memory, but hey it was a step in the right direction.
>>160270945
>>160270964
Not really, there's a reason 2 is the only game that does it.
It just shits on the player to be le epic hardcore when it should be a choice.
>Hollow and can't summon people, less HP but can't be invaded
>Non-hollow - can summon, more hp but can't be invaded
Now it's just
>lol stay non-hollow as much as possible who cares about making the play make choice
How do i earn a player's steam message on Dark Souls 3?
>>160271057
Don't forget that there was no full Red Eye Orb either which was completely retarded.
>>160271137
be a huge faggot that has three meta weapons in his pocket and a greatshield
>>160270754
DaS3, on the other hand, is controversial for entirely opposite reasons than 2. Many find it insulting just how familiar the ground it retreads truly is, as if From Software and Miyazaki tried to make as "safe" of a Souls game as possible. The DaS2 engine was abandoned in favor of reusing the same old engine they had used in Demon's Souls through Bloodborne, bringing with it many of the same archaic issues and janky coding hiccups that plagued the original game. Despite this, it still managed to commit many of the same sins people criticized DaS2 for, such as warping from the start and linear progression, the latter being even more pronounced in 3 than in any other game in the series. On top of only keeping the bare minimum of improvements to the formula that DaS2 brought in, such as cancelling gestures, two-handing offhand weapons, an expanded quick item use bar from 5 slots to 10, 4 ring slots, a simplified upgrade system and so on, DaS3 also barely kept any of the improvements from the highly successful Bloodborne as well, and what it did keep was often somewhat clumsily implemented due to the somewhat inflexible base engine interacting with old assets as opposed to BB's brand new assets, such as charge attacks. Many fans who did not play Bloodborne due to being PC users or otherwise also find the Bloodborne-influence paradigm shift in Dark Souls 3 upsetting, as the game rewards aggressive play and rapid, "spammy" dodging over the cautious and reactive play favored by the previous games. This has also strongly influenced enemy design, resulting in enemies with nigh-infinite stamina swinging up to a dozen times in a row with few breaks in between, which would turn the player into mincemeat under older dodging iframes and stamina costs. It has also had a major effect on the Souls PvP formula, especially as Dark Souls 3 is the one game in the series that penalizes the invader the most out of any in the series.
Where can i watch/read about cut content and various other interesting stuff that is hidden away in the files?
The anon i was talking to yesterday(I'm assuming it was Zullie)doesn't document any findings.
I'll take anything, be it youtube channels or tumblrs.
I already know about
>Crestfallen
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVYeVjIlZGFXpt3pgdkxbGQ
>Sanadsk (Huge faggot, but i'm starved for content)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2EFhJTQESvy0vT3u-sxofw
>Illusorywall
http://illusorywall.tumblr.com/
>Gibbed's Demon's Souls cut archstone video stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA9c01YsEFM
>Wulf2k9
https://www.youtube.com/user/Wulf2k9
And that's about it that comes to mind.
Do you have anything i haven't listed?
>>160271137
nobody usually cares enough to go through adding you first
steam is shit for fanmail, gaben ruined fun
>>160271072
Just burn an effigy if you don't want to get invaded, retard. SotFS even catered to casuals by giving you a free effigy-burning effect upon killing a boss.
I bet you preferred DaS1 where there was literally no reason to ever go human anyway.
>>160271072
There is a choice. You can go unhollow to summon phantoms to help you fight off invaders.
I don't like DS2 but I openly admit that it did online co-op and PvP the best. DaS sucked ass in that regard because barely anyone was just naturally human, as there was no benefit because while you could kindle a bonfire, afterwards you never had to be Human again.
There is a reason EVERYONE you invaded in 1 was a try hard fag, it's because no one else bothered to be Human.
>>160271310
I prefer literally any other From game.
2 is regarded as the worst for a very good reason.
>>160271072
Wait are you actually serious?
>to be le epic hardcore
It's to be le epic not a dead game dumbass, in addition to invasions after boss clear.
>>160271376
Being invaded while hollow is not one of those reasons. Go back to the reddit hugbox of crying because an invader hurt your feelings.
>>160271376
>for a very good reason
>Lists a bad reason
>>160271336
>There is a choice. You can go unhollow to summon phantoms to help you fight off invaders.
That's not a choice dipshit.
There's no reason NOT to be human
I did some pvp with the washing pole for my first time in ds3.
The running attack is too good. Im fighting players that have parried me before but I can either hit them with the tip of the washing pole or the base doing it late. This weapon is to easy imo.
>>160268950
>walk into /bbg/
>hear crickets
>>160271480
Yes there is you idiot.
WHEN YOU'RE HOLLOW, THERE'S A CHANCE YOU'LL BE INVADED
WHEN YOU'RE HUMAN, THAT CHANCE IS SIGNIFFICANTLY HIGHER
>>160271554
yeah washing pole is retarded
katana running r1's are all stupid, washing pole is just the dumbest
>>160270724
That isn't a reason, it's just your opinionwhich is also shit
>>160270754
>>160271206
Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for.
>>160270929
That's just what I've seen. Though I think I might just skip DS2/3 and go for BB.next.
>>160271480
In DaS once a bonfire is kindled there is NO REASON TO ever be Human. It has no benefits at all, faggot.
>>160271072
>lol stay non-hollow as much as possible
This is good design. The player should be discouraged from ramming their face into enemies/bosses until they die, like most players did in DaS1. If they try that in 2, they'll quickly run out of effigies and have to live with the penalties.
>>160271336
>There is a reason EVERYONE you invaded in 1 was a try hard fag
Literally >90% of hosts were retards and not tryhards at all.
And I say this as someone who spent hundreds of hours invading just AL.
>>160271613
Honestly I don't think any of the souls games are worth skipping. I think they're all good in their own way, but Das2 probably has the weakest pve even though I love it from a mechanics standpoint
>>160270423
>that constant backstab fishing/strafing
Thank god for DS2
>>160269668
>DS3 is the best of the series
Maybe 6 months ago when BB drones were still having their boners over it being BB 2.0
Most people now have had time to see it for what it is though. A solid first playthrough but otherwise underwhelming.
DS3 is a failed BB clone experiment. It kept nothing people wanted from previous games, and tweaked mechanics to suit a game that it simply shouldn't be. Somehow managed to do nothing worth praising besides fluidity of controls.
>>160270754
>yfw Vergil actually did the mocap in DS2
>>160271206
>if you enable poise you're able to toggle escape
high quality engine
>>160271731
That's what it sounds like, and I may come back around to them at some point. Right now I am just working on my backlog, which is why I finally finished DS1.
>>160270673
Get scrapped or baby nailed is legit. With some balance those are good and fun things to implement. Acid surge getting nerfed or corrosive urns being so awkward to use and toxic being so hard to inflict just show they'd not even dare try using those again in the souls series.
The thing was that in DeS you could stack so much healing as an invader as well as other advantages and abuse unaware new players, together with dying locking you out of loot, that more experienced players never went online with new characters until they were past a certain point. Same for DaS 1. You don't want your more avid players to not take part into some of the online.
>>160270781
If you twink someone too much. They won't want to go online anymore. Why would they? Their chance of winning is minimal. Why would you want to make players give up on playing certain part of the game online? Even if a veteran went to make a new DaS 1 character, they'd avoid going human for a while because against a twink, they'd only chainstab the guy for almost no damage until he died.
Reducing twinks makes the online more active and is good for the game
>>160272059
>If you twink someone too much. They won't want to go online anymore. Why would they? Their chance of winning is minimal. Why would you want to make players give up on playing certain part of the game online? Even if a veteran went to make a new DaS 1 character, they'd avoid going human for a while because against a twink, they'd only chainstab the guy for almost no damage until he died.
>Reducing twinks makes the online more active and is good for the game
I always play the game online and with dried fingers active and WITHOUT summoning. You're just a fucking pussy, afraid of minor setbacks. Even in Dark Souls 1 where people could really fuck your shit up, I always played it like that.
>>160268773
Hello, hope you're having a good day so far!
>>160272219
Wow, you're tough!
>>160272404
>Bawww stop twinking!! HOW DARE YOU INVADE MY WORLD!!!
>>160272219
Congrats.
You can do this after counting hundreds of hours in the game. Now go kill yourself.
>>160270754
>>160271206
Really well said, you voice almost exactly my own thoughts on it. I saved it
>>160271206
What improvements from Bloodborne are missing, besides multiple unique running and backstep attacks?
Bloodborne's best improvement was the storage inventory system that automatically refreshes your items, but DaS3 brought a HUGE improvement over it by making everything refresh instead of having to go back to the Hunter's Dream to pull out / buy more BMA and such.
Bloodborne did not really call for aggressive play either. It required you to be cautious and perfect with your dodges or get oneshot by instability modifier.
>>160272536
You're the one who should acquire a gas mask and helium tank for being such a pussy. I bet your father is proud of how much of a pussy ass bitch his son is. Just gargle the bleach gallon already!
>>160272219
>I always play the game online and with dried fingers active and WITHOUT summoning. You're just a fucking pussy, afraid of minor setbacks. Even in Dark Souls 1 where people could really fuck your shit up, I always played it like that.
Congrats on being the minority, I guess.
You can't actually tell me twinks help the online in any way. Gankers discourage people from invading, they harm online. Twinks discourage people from going human, they also harm the online of the game, it's a very simple concept.
If I made a new character and went human in the parish, I could just backstab chain a twink with my rapier until I got bored of trying to use an early weapon with little upgrades to get through his 99 humanity. It'd be just a waste of time for us since I'd either eventually kill him givn enough time or he'd escape and kill me. But I can assure you it'd not be fun for me to waste time with him compared to something like a fun AL invasion.
Imagine if I were a new player though, why would I go online, and thus, increase the activity of the game making everything more lively and better for everyone if they could insta kill me?
That's why the parish got reduced to a twink/anti twink war zone with some duels sprinkled over it
>>160269891
Look at this faggit try to justify being so shit at the game he has to bully newbs to find amusement.
>>160272484
I'm not the guy you were replying to and generally play bodyform/human/unhollowed/..., but your post was nothing but tough guy autofellatio.
how were the ccs and the sabre nerfed?
>>160272593
>It required you to be cautious and perfect with your dodges or get oneshot by instability modifier.
Funnily enough the counterhit modifier was smaller than the instability modifier. This combined with a lack of DaS-style shields and the inclusion of the Rally mechanic rewarded aggressive play over being overly defensive/evasive, especially considering some bosses with poor hitboxes like Ebrietas.
>tfw sitting in the Undead Parish church at SL120+ just to fuck up twinks trying to bully players
>get hatemail from them too
>>160272648
What?
How does me not wanting to play at a huge disadvantage to stroke your puny little ego equals me being a pussy? Do explain.
>>160272843
Exactly the way you made it sound.
>I don't want to go online because I fear I might get bullied.
>>160272593
>What improvements from Bloodborne are missing
Interesting and varied weapon movesets, for one.
>>160272913
Meanwhile, the actual legit invaders who are doing it just for regular fights suffer from your hypocrisy of trying to dodge twinks, meaning YOU are actually responsible for harming online.
GOOD JOB!
>>160272824
how do u fuck up twinks if ur Lv 120? Arent twinks usually low lvl
>>160272913
Not wanting to be your court jester is not me fearing bullying. Grow up.
>>160273001
was meant for >>160272843
>>160273023
You invade infinitely upwards
post more dickwraithing
>>160273096
Shiet didnt know that, cool.
>>160273023
You invade infinitely upwards in DS1.
>>160269342
Retard
>BAWW TWINKS
You will never know the feeling of being invaded by some +10 weapon, WoG spamming faggot and booting his ass off a ledge after rolling through all his cheesy bullshit.
If twinks bothered you that much you played hollowed, end of story. It didn't kill the online element at any level because not everyone is a massive loudmouthed wimp like you, I routinely invaded and was invaded on a level 35 throughout the majority of DaS2 before SoTFS. Stacks of 99 humanity daily. The PVE has always been trivial, you don't and never have needed phantoms and if you did you sucked and I think its plain to see why invasions bother you so much. The invaders add some actual variety into it twink or not.
>>160273096
So I need to be a punching bag to give you a possibility to have fun, ergo, give up my own fun? Sure seems fair my good lad.
>>160268916
ippuki was such an autist hacking shitter
glad I could beat him without hacks
>>160273227
I implied that you can, not that you can't. The guy said YOU CAN'T have 3 softcaps with 66 str. He was wrong.
>>160273264
If you were good enough you would be killing twinks like >>160273246
confirming, most of /dsg/ are actual faggots who need to acquire proficiency, so just the usual.
>>160273149
>Lucerne cleric
MY NIGG-
>that horrible backstab fishing
REPENT.
>>160273227
I'd have rathered the remaining 1 point be put into VIT.
>>160273227
>15 vit
do you plan to fatroll?
>>160271206
>Dark Souls 3 is the one game in the series that penalizes the invader the most out of any in the series.
Dark Souls 2 flat out made it so that you couldn't invade.
>>160273246
Nigga, you don't even listen. Again, not everyone clocks 300 hours at the game. Some play it for... god forbid... FUN.
And, at least for me, fun doesn't include getting roflstomped by some retarded neet.
>>160273339
And what if i'm not good enough, huh? I have job and can't devote all my free time to the game. What now?
>>160273473
>And what if i'm not good enough, huh? I have job and can't devote all my free time to the game. What now?
Pffft, hahahahah. You're actually THIS pathetic.
>>160273246
>tfw baiting a hacker in Darkroot into falling off the cliff
>tfw Bandit Knife bleeding twinks and hackers while they try to hit you but they're shitters
>tfw counter pivot backstabbing twinks in the Burg repeatedly until they die or run to black crystal out against your starter character with +0 weapons
i miss it
>>160272219
>I'm so le hardcore
That guy brought up valid points that probably had nothing to do with the way he played the game. You sound fucking insufferable 2bh. He even said that the only chance you have against a twink is chainstabbing, implying he understands PvP and how you would deal with a twink normally.
For the record I always play human too because I like PvP, all I fucking do is invade, get invaded, and duel in these games, and I've been doing that since DeS. If you seriously think that if someone's first experience with PvP is a twink that one-shots them with one swing of their weapon is a good thing then you're a moron. That's not fun, it doesn't feel remotely fair for the new player.
Looking at your other replies here you should probably just save everyone the hassle and kill yourself.
>>160273246
>>160273339
You guys are completely missing the point. I've killed twinks by backstabbing them off ledges (there isn't always a ledge to kill them with too, you fucking idiots), I've chainstabbed a twink with my fists until he disconnected. That's not the experience for a new player, they get one shot by combustion or a chaos zwei and they think PvP/online in this game is retarded. It's not good design.
>>160273530
14 year old shitter confirmed.
Go play your ng+27, because you have literally nothing else to do.
>>160273585
>m-muh minor setbacks
how will i deal with my life when an invader broke all my items/killed me in one hit, oh god, how should I proceed??
>>160273650
>afraid of invaders
>calls other shitters while posting reaction images
lmao
Question.
Say I'm still in NG, but want to stay here.
I tend to respec a lot to try out other builds and shit. Can I save the game at 4 rebirths, and copy the save file to another location as a backup, for when I use my fifth rebirth and don't want to go into new game?
>>160273473
You're in the wrong general, bucko. You should go back to one of those mobile game generals, it seems more up your alley.
>>160269320
I meme them to death with a great bow, thank you very much.
>>160273712
>ignores all points
Yeah, whatever. It's not like you can participate in a discussion anyway.
Also
>HE DARES TO POST IMAGES ON AN IMAGEBOARD
wew
>>160273767
yea ive done this about 100 times.
>>160271679
Dark Souls 2, DeS and Dark Souls 3 had the best health systems, with Dark Souls 3 actually having the best health system since DeS basically required you to wear the Cling Ring and had healing grasses up the ass, while Dark Souls 3 has a better compromise of 66%, but doesn't have a ring that trivializes the health loss, nor health items that could be spammed endlessly like lifegems and healing grasses, and gates regeneration into the lategame.
>>160273767
yep, that's what consoles usually do or if you don't want to use CE
>>160273907
DaS's system is the best. Everyone is always at full health, unless they got cursed.
Human form is just a online on/off switch.
>>160273807
>ONLY LE EBIN HARD COER GAYMERS LIKE MYSELF CAN ENJOY THE GAME AND POST IN GENERALS
>DARK SOULS IS STRICTLY PVP PERIOD
Are you fucking serious or am I being memed, I don't even know anymore.
>>160273883
>>160273936
alright thanks.
I used to do it in other souls games, but wasn't sure if I could in 3.
Anyone need help with Sens? Trying to get some sunlight medals.
>>160273853
What points? That you're literally afraid of getting one shot and that this made people afraid of playing the game?
You're so wrong it's not even funny. Why do you think dark souls has this many players still playing the game? Because of the shittastic pve experience? No, it's to fuck shit up in other people's worlds. Everyone wants to do that, and everyone wants to beat the invader. That's what keep people playing these games. Get over yourself, you're just a fucking pussy that can't deal with a 30 second time loss in your pathetic life.
>>160273246
Interesting to read this whole conversation since again, I'm the guy early on who has only played DaS3 and just heard the stories about the older shit.
Honestly though I enjoy mid level invading in DaS3 the best, it's exactly what I imagined invading SHOULD be: you're basically like a mini-boss, and you and the mobs are trying to stop forward progress from the host and if he wants, phantoms. The host can have over twice as much estus as you, way of the blue, and potentially get back to a bonfire and resummon his friends. You have your game knowledge (i.e. twinking, knowledge of the level layout, skill at the game, etc) and mobs to fight with you, and if they pop a finger potentially have other invaders to buddy up with as well.
SL50-70 +6/8 is ideal imo, to get that experience. Probably my biggest problem with the game is the giant tree seed, but at these levels and lower I almost never have to deal with a seeded world. And my feeling is that even if it's 1v4 I don't mind as long as I can ambush people who are fighting mobs, and retreat further and further into the level, having escape routes and shit, throwing firebombs and maybe shooting greatarrows. It's all great fun even if I lose under those conditions, it's exciting because you never know what's going to happen in any given invasion, and it's fair (me and mobs vs. host and phantoms trying to progress) yet way more challenging than honor duels. That's the true dark souls invading experience imo, where it's fair yet unfair at the same time which makes it exciting.
>>160274009
Booting up my Samsung
Can anyone tell how many hits do you need to bleed the Black Knight in Farron Keep and Soul of Cinder with Carthus Rouge and a bleed weapon?
>>160274020
>>160273853
>>160273712
>>160273650
Will you two kiss and make up already?
>>160274001
If you were really all about the PVE you'd realize how fucking retarded summoning phantoms for it is. This isn't world of warcraft, you are literally having someone else play the game for you. If you die with a phantom up you're a fucking retard
>>160274106
a few
>>160274115
Dude is literally afraid of online interactions, let alone a real social interaction lmao
>>160274020
I do play pvp and I do enjoy it.
All I'm saying, is that twinking, which you are trying to protect is not even the way the game is supposed to be played. You are trying to have your fun by ruining the fun of the others.
And I don't want to participate in that.
If you really cared about the game (lol) you would invade with the approximate character strength that a regular player should have at this point of the game.
>>160273149
What does dickwraithing mean? Just being a jerk in an invasion using some OP stuff or something else?
There was this black guy who played DaS I and had some pvp videos. He was pretty chill and fun to watch, does anyone remember his name?
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>>160273264
>overwatch reaction images
says a lot about you desu
shouldn't you be masturbating to futa SFMs?
>>160273994
>Human form is just a online on/off switch.
I don't like that. I like it when the game gives the player a reason to not play like a shitter and just throw themselves at the boss or the opposition until get through it.
That's how Demon's Souls was able to introduce a lot of tension into the gameplay : if you die in the game, you'll have to make it into the Bloodstain with only 50% max health, or you could pop an Ephemeral Eye Stone, but risk making the game harder via the World Tendency system.
Dark Souls 2 wasn't as harsh, but it similarly incentivized better play from the players as just headbutting into an obstacle got you reamed. It also played well with the thematic of the characters fearing Hollowing. In Dark Souls 1, if you got hollowed, it was like "big deal, I look ugly but I'm otherwise fine and I can't even get invaded".
Dark Souls 3 had the perfect balance between the immediate health loss of Demon's Souls and the gradual health loss of Dark Souls 2.
Of all the things I'm disappointed with BB about is that they didn't have any consequences for dying health-wise.
>>160273994
>Literally no death penalty, ram your face into the boss like a retard until the stars align and it dies, no need to git gud or play cautious/smart
Dark Souls was a mistake
>>160274136
I don't summon, why did you assume that my man?
>>160274347
complaining about "harming online", if you don't like invasions, the only other online experience there is is co-op.
>>160274149
yea...and..?..who cares?
>>160274251
get off it dude
>>160274347
because you are whining about invaders and being human is the only way to summon phantoms, which is also the only way to be invaded in das1.
>>160274426
We wouldn't be able to kiss because he would disconnect.
>>160274461
Haha thanks, I found him.
>>160274251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T198rMCG18
>>160274251
Martyrsbrigade, I think his channel is jblackmel.
>>160274307
Demon's Souls had a problem with the health system in the form of healing grasses and insanely strong regen. Either you got oneshotted in Demon's Souls or you could keep going forever since the game gave you more grasses going through the mandatory 1-1 than you needed in the entire game if you were even mildly competent.
what's goin on guys
>>160274290
>>160274307
>die in human form
>locked out of sweet PWWT loot
>health loss casualised because cling ring exists and is easy to get
Why do you think everyone kills themselves at the nexus? The penalty for being in soul form is minimal and PWWT worlds vomiting grass on you makes up for it. It is far less risky than someone killing you and you missing out on NPCs.
It's actually funny since the the offline form was an advantage which is an even worse system
>>160274704
World Tendency being a shit mechanic is a whole separate topic.
>>160274704
>It's actually funny since the the offline form was an advantage which is an even worse system
I'm argumenting when only considering playing "normally", i.e not trying to manipulate World Tendency, just getting through the game in general. World Tendency is such a shitty mechanic that I don't tell anyone asking about Demon's Souls how it works because people think it actually matters enough that they have to autistically manipulate it and that's why you have noone playing Demon's Souls online.
But yeah, the Cling Ring was stupid and I'm glad Dark Souls 3 got rid of it.
>>160274095
Im still here!
hnng
is there any reason to use an uchi over the washing pole?
What's the point of Simple infusion?
>>160274978
i hope you also didn't tell him about the dbs
>>160275056
How new are you?
>>160275116
>no
>>160275056
this made me laugh for some reason
>>160274660
get off it dude
>>160275013
Okay I'm getting salty now, did they specifically only nerf the Glaive version of Spin Sweep and leave all other version untouched? Fuck consistency I guess.
>>160275297
Pretty sure it's not a true combo
>>160275056
F R E E
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FP
>no new thread when
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>>160275374
I know how it works, but is it useful at all? I do not use weapon arts.
>>160273712
>oh god, how should I proceed??
>M-minor s-setbacks! I-I said it again!
The point is that it's not fun, it's bad design. Things like weapon memory helped a bit. You still have the ability to twink but it's much more limited, so you beat new players by having better knowledge of the game/PvP, and it's more rewarding/fun for both players. There's still a few retarded things like being able to have upgraded estus in DaS3, though.
>>160274020
>shittastic pve experience
The fact you think this says a lot.
>everyone wants to beat the invader. That's what keep people playing these games
So how does having the invader be almost impossible to kill a good thing? Surely it's more fun if the new player feels like he had a chance, or at least saw the invader demonstrate how much more experience he has at PvP than him.
Your only response is to say people must be bad at PvP to think this, but that's just retarded (I know I'm not bad, I can't prove that to you however). If you actually wanted people to feel like they 'want to be/kill the invader' then you make PvP feel fair and related to skill.
I know it looks like I'm trying to have a discussion with you but please don't reply to my post and kill yourself instead.
>>160275450
F R E E
>>160275450
they were only useful at a time for weapon arts since you only needed 1fp to use it. Now you need half the fp to do the WA so its not as good now. Go divine for hp regen or whatever your damage stats are for occasional perseverance punishes
In case people are retards, NEW BREAD:
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>>160275452
>beat new players by having game knowledge
lmao tell that to my dragonslayer axe+2 dealing more damage than a 40/40 +10 longsword
>he thinks dark souls pve is great after the first playthrough
lmao, says a lot about you and your bitch ass
R1
>there are people this retarded playing the game
Note how much damage he does to me as well. He switched from a fire halberd that actually did damage, to an unupgraded falchion to try and kill me. I don't understand why but it enabled me to bully him for ages. I later made him attack one of the mimics, and watching him struggle to kill it, even with infinite health, was one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen.
>>160275297
Only Champ's was ever a true combo