/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

>>160189661
i love you

>>160190059
Conservation civic

>Genoa is listed with the civilizations instead of being listed with the city states

Well, I guess we know what the new Venice is going to be

Reminder that the one city cultural victory in civ3 still is the most based victory condition in the series.

I am fond of my wife's wifi.

How do you plant a new forest in Civ 6?

>>160190779
"Go green" is a mem of the past.
Wymin rights and sexism, racism, homophobia and islamophobia are more pressing matters in the current year.

>>160190920
*toilet rights

Something is not right... right?

I have three cities, and the entertainment complex is built. The two other city centres are within 6 tiles of my entertainment complex, but I don't get extra amenities for that. But as I understand it, I'm supposed to get that. What's wrong? To make sure, I have even built entertainment complexes in all three cities, but that doesn't help. Well, it did help with one of the cities for some reason (the capital). It's not limited to the capital, is it?

>>160190779
You need a worker made in the modern? era or later.

>>160191938
My understanding, which could be very wrong, is that your resource-based amenities will redistribute based on which cities have the fewest amenities. This means that when you make amenity building they increase the amenities for that city, which reshuffles the resource amenities to other cities.

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Game looks so much better holy shit

>>160191938
Amenities flow to the city that needs it most first until they're all distributed.

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>>160193687

>>160193656
>>160193698
Yes, the amenities for luxury resources may get distributed elsewhere, but I'm looking at the city details, and I'm seeing that the entertainment amenity is not listed there. Only 1, for my own entertainment complex, but it should be 2, because of the bonus. As I understand it, these won't be distributed to other cities, as they are local. I don't get it.

I am fond of siege towers

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What the fuck
just happened

I was playing civ 6 as Aztecs, Im a fairly new player so its only King for now for me
Alone on an entire continent
Trying to go for a science victory but it takes so long
I have to wage war on Scythia cause she was nearing a religious victory I think my cities were left for her
fast forward
I declare a colonial war against Russia cause I think he had farmed spies and kept killing my industry district
AND
wtf
when I destroyed his last city, I.. lost?
It showed like a destroyed city, as if I was playing as Russia?
what the fuck was that, why did I lose?

>>160193687
>>160193884
>brown and blur
Looking at this physically hurts my eyes.
Jesus christ.

>>160191938
>>160194113
Nobody have any clues about this? It's really bugging me. I don't know what I'm missing.

>>160195404
Do the entertaiment buildings allow specialists? As i recall only the buildings in a district like factory and whatnot spread their bonuses, so i'm guessing it's only the bonus tied to that specific building's specialist, which would be the second one in the case of the factory i'm guessing.

>be Japan
>enter modern era
>people on the 2nd tier continent need conquered so they can stop suffering

Finally, GATE the game.

>>160195118
You had already been conquered religiously. Russia was the last holdout. You were depending on them to help you win the game, but instead you went to war over some petty shit.

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>have a couple of horseman/knight/tank corps/armies
>and a fucking siege tower from the medieval ages
>right click a city once
>it's yours
>repeat ten trillion times because the AI shits out cities once every 10 seconds
>it's deity
Is there a civ game where you're rewarded for focusing on a small 4-5 city country and are not encouraged to just conquer everything? I've only played 6 and I like it a lot, but some of the balancing issues are just heartbreaking

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Civ 6 AI has me lolling. What is the best mods for 4 right now?

>>160199131
Civ 5 is the game for you (and only you). You aren't necessarily rewarded for being small, so much as you're punished severely for having more than 4-5 cities.

It's like Civ 6 except happiness is global, and the biggest cause of happiness is having people and cities. So if you capture a city, all of your other cities get to such a level of unhappiness that your entire empire comes grinding to a halt.

>>160199346
Fall from Heaven 2 has been the best mod for several years now.

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Just played my first game of civ VI, glad I bought it. It's enjoyable but obviously not very good yet, it will be in the future though desu.

>>160200396
What's his name?

>>160200396
Just remember to expand and exterminate, and not sit back playing Sim City and getting mad that other players declare war on you.

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>>160200615
>>160199965
>all that condescending warmonger agenda

>>160195404
Only zoos and stadiums transmit their bonuses to other cities.

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pls

>>160200608
Outdated Puritan Mindset Man.

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this seems like a pretty atrocious bug

wiped out germany and the city says it has 18 hammer but it takes 6 turns to make a 20 hammer scout?
i dont see any notice anywhere of a penalty such as occupied penalty but it seems bugged.

it is only applying to his capital and not to the other 2 cities i took from him.

>>160201171
Skip a turn, see if it stays. Maybe the interface hasn't updated from some shit if you just took it this turn.

>>160200910
What a weird way to say Saves You From Ahmed Man

>>160200785
What are you doing playing strategy games if you don't want to commit genocide against the Aztecs?

>>160201171
I'm pretty sure the cost of that scout is just not updated. No way in hell they cost 20 when a good city, especially a german one, can easily shit out two or three times as much in one turn by the industrial era

>>160201340
no ive had the city for two dozen turns and just now noticing its building things far too slow.

>>160201597
Where does it get 18 production from? Can you count that much in the tiles it works and the districts?
Seems like a too high number.

>>160201171
same goes for -1 anemety when you should have +2 after a building is completed. Just wait until next turn. Usually the interface doesn't update right away.

>>160200865
Oh really? Thank you for your reply, it has been bugging me a lot. Still in medieval period for now, tho. Currently leading in scientific, but I kinda want to do the domination. I asked earlier about scientific victory tho, do you need uranium in order to do all the technologies, or do the scientific victory somehow?

>Civ 6 comes out
>it's shit
>shills still say it's good
>"it'll be excellent with patches :)"
What happened to "we judge games in their current states and not based on some extrapolation that comes out of our own ass"?

>>160201993
So, let's just shit all over the thread instead of having actual discussions? Yeah, it's unpolished to say the least and yes, it's gonna be much better with patches and expansions, everyone knows that. It's still enjoyable and there's no reason to freak the fuck out at everyone who does enjoy the game in its current state despite knowing that it's unfinished

Anyone aurora 4x here?

>>160201993
Judging a game merely in its current state is like judging Magnus Carlsen as a chess player when he was 7 years old. It's like watching a gifted child clearly with tons of potential, and ignore it thinking he is a shitty chess player because he is yet to become great. It's narrowminded to judge a game without also looking at its potential with patches.

>>160202192
>it's gonna be much better
Nice opinion.
By the way, I was talking about video games journalists. I like how you immediately got triggered when someone dare to dislike a shitty game.

>>160202268
Is it ported from VB6 yet?

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>>160201993
>>>>>>it's shit

I don't know what this webm is

>>160202286
Why should I buy it at release, then? I'm just gonna wait for the GOTY edition. If Firaxis is gonna nickle and dime this as hard as they can, why should I play their game of relasing barebone games and fixing them with expansions?
Also, Carlsen didn't me ask for 60 bucks to watch him play when he was shit.

>>160202412
I don't think soooo... There was some talk of C# being looked at and stuff. But, eh.

Projectile
Lazer
Nuclear Missiles


What do I start with?

Whats the best FTL method?

>>160202306
The only one getting triggered and overly aggressive here is you though, mr. autismo

>>160202580
Why indeed. You aren't forced to. You can pirate it and then buy it when you feel like it's worth the money.

>>160202580
Because people on 4chan who totally aren't shills are telling you to buy it because, eventually, one day, it may have 10% chance of being good.

>>160202706
Kinetics are the best, both for starting with and in the long run. You should research Plasma weapons later down the line, though. Missiles are decent early on, but once Point Defense appears they're shit. Lasers are meh.

Wormhole is the best, but if you don't wanna deal with vulerable infrastructre, you should pick warp. Hyperdrive is trash right now.

when did u stop playing?
>realized that the end game is fucking shit and politics did not matter whatsoever.
>rushing + turtling up for science was too effective
>science was too fast, couldnt even build a unit before it had to be upgraded

>>160202950
When I saw the quotes and realized that even if Firaxis, one day, decides to fix the game, they'll keep the quotes, because their fans are drowning every legitimate complains with endless spam.

Why the fuck do these Stellaris fleets force a fight if they come anywhere near any enemy structure. It's fucking ridiculous that I have to make an emergency jump just to get my fucking warships out of a system because they are shooting at some mining bases that can't even shoot back.

>>160203150
how autistic are you that quotes bother you so much?

>>160203162
can't you solve that changing their stance?

>>160201993
Because we know for a fact that Firaxis will come out with half a dozen DLC, each of which will on balance be an improvement.

>>160202940
I find wormhole annoying because if I want to travel one system over I have to jump somewhere else and back at it

>>160203746
Yeah, Stellaris was exactly the same, it was shit.

And guess what? It's still shit. But it's okay to be treated like a cashcow, right ;)
I am fond of coal miner's wives.

Why did they ruin Stellaris with this FE shit. I understand that they wanted to make FE's more interesting, but how the fuck is making them like that "pirate" event on steroids with the difference that basically makes the FE awakening an event that makes most, if not all diplomacy completely redundant, forces you to dismantle or leave your federation, ditch your allies, ditch your vassals, ditch any fucking choice you have in the course of the game while forcing you to disband most of the fleets you have built, because you can't not become a vassal for the FEs. You can't fucking say no to them, because they always awaken way before you are anywhere fucking near the point where you can challenge them and if you say no, you just lose the fucking game. Period.

Fuck. I really had high expectations for the Heinlein patch, but this shit made the end game even shittier.

What the fuck is the point of the diplomacy screen with the FEs anyway if you can't do fucking anything with them? You can insult them and make deals that they will fucking say no to by default.

I'm fucking amazed that anyone at Paradox thought this shit is a good idea.

>>160202950
Most people play on epic timescale just so they can use their armies before they become obsolete. I don't know how - the game is so tedious that even on standard you can't get through a game in one sitting.

>>160204045
that must be the most boring shit ever
I played one civ v game on marathon and it really took its toll on me.

Even with the Boost mechanics of Civ VI, I feel as if it runs out of shit to do and just gets sort of boring after a while.

>>160195118
Next time read the specifics on how victories work, anon. Religious victories happen when you convert the majority of cities from every civs.

You were already converted and destroyed the only civ which wasn't fully converted yet.

I only play with religious victories disabled, desu. You can't counter a religious victory if you don't build a religion of your own, and the AI manages to take all prophets before you've even built your holy district.

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>no way to replay this

Ree

>>160204045
i think they did a good job in 6 making units take longer to obsolete. its more about quantity over quality and then eventually you can form them into corps.

>>160202950
I was about to stop playing, then I found out about mods. One that improves the AI and another one that tweaks the whole strategic resource thing made the game more challenging and interesting to play.

A little information: Usually, you will see that the AI will have several outdated military units, even when they're on more advanced ages. This happens because they're either unable to find strategic resources, or didn't bothered researching the techs.

One mod allows everyone to build all units without having strategic resources (but gives you a damage boost if you do have the iron to strengthen your swordsmen, for instance). This change already made the game harder and more interesting, as the AI will actually attack you with a strong army.

Couple that with a mod that improves the AI, and another one that reduces warmongering penalties and you have a great game to play.

>>160204028
FE's are doomed to fail in Stellaris until they completely redo diplomacy, because as-is diplomacy is worthless. There's zero meaningful interaction between civilizations besides war. The diplomacy functions are way too limited and stilted to get anything done, and the AI is too bumfuck retarded to engage in any kind of negotiation. I wanted to play a peaceful empire and was forced to go to war with my neighbors because the game gave me absolutely no diplomatic recourse for having my demands met. The solution to literally every dispute is go to war.

>>160205321
The fuk? are mods out already?

>>160205537
https://forums.civfanatics.com/forums/civ6-creation-customization.541/

>>160203805
If you find yourself jumping to or from a location often then build a generator there.

>>160205421
Yeah, it's really annoying when you have build up good relations with a neighbor and then they do something shitty like instantly vassalize a system you liberated in a war or colonize or build a frontier outpost really close, and basically the only way you can fix or make them fuck off is to completely destroy relations with a war to invade/liberate/destroy.

>>160205712
lmaooooo theyre actually gonna sell workshop content as dlc

>>160204765
>ITT scrub civ V babby that doesn't know how to counter religion even without his own religion
>Not annexing every religion capable civand then use your own faith to literally go multiculturalism so there is no dominant religion in your civ ever
>All while going for domination and science victory at the same time so no civ can ever bully you late game

>>160205720
I just really want a more nuanced diplomacy system and more gradual relationships between civilizations. I find it kinda dumb that after first contact you do a quick research and suddenly you know EVERYTHING about their civilization down to the comparative strengths of your military and technology levels. Would like it that shit was gated based on how much contact you had. Also wish the AI wasn't so fucking hostile by default. It's like the galaxy is populated by paranoids and aren't willing to establish any kind of friendly relations with people. There's no options to just passively exchange information and contacts to boost relations, you literally just sit there and wait for a relationship demodifier to tick down so you can do anything with them. And by "do anything" I mean try and fail to negotiate trade deals that they will refuse and make unreasonable demands for.

Make it so first contact just gives you the empire's name, the dominant race's name and appearance, and maybe their government type and the location of a few worlds close by. Don't reveal their entire genetic makeup, the full extent of their borders, and their national policies. Make the player work for that shit, give diplomatic tools for finding this shit out. Make a leader specifically for interacting with other factions and finding information. A spy, a diplomat, an envoy, something like that.

>make xenophile individualist materialist humans
>meet my 3 neighbours
>they all like me because xenophile
>by year 22 getting spammed with non aggression pact proposals
yea nah, back to purging the galaxy

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>>160206414
>play as xenophile fanatic materialist charasmatic space waifus
>all my neighbors love me
>only enter into non-aggression pacts from people I don't wanna attack anyway
>liberate my way through the galaxy
But I still had more fun on my fanatic xenophobe + star empire run, them borders. And purging and resettling still is faster and less painful than liberating, vassalizing and integrating. The only thing I hate is the silly high ethics divergence, but that's a problem for everyone that doesn't go fanatic indiviualist.

In Civ VI, is there a point in working duplicate luxury resources? Or should I just build shit on whichever duplicate I have?

>>160207681
You can sell them, you know. Extra 200-500 gold once in a while can't hurt.

>>160199346
Fall from Heaven 2
Runner up is anyone of the larger modmods for Fall from Heaven 2 like Fall further or Rise from Erubus

>>160177290
>people actually want to play eu4
gross

>>160206791
How do you deal with it?
I tried doing that, conquered like 2 people and then half my planets stopped because they apparently hate purging even though everyone in my empire was xnophobic militant spiritualist

>>160207681
You can't build shit on luxuries or put improvements on them that aren't improving improvements so you might as well improve it or just say h*ck it and ignore it.
If it's like forest/hill/truffle or jungle/hill/diamonds it's a good tile to work anyway.

Patch when?
Jadwiga when?
Mongols when?

>>160209769
>Patch when?
>Jadwiga when?
On november 11th.

>>160209890
>2017

>>160209949
:^(

Help me improve my Stellaris build?

Traits: Enduring(+), Talented(++), Quick Learners(+), Deviants(-), Sedentary(-).

Ethos: Fanatic Individualist, Materialist.

Government: Direct Democracy.

Starting Weapon: Kinetic.

FTL: Warp.

The idea is to have a happy population through Individualism and Direct Democracy, and leaders who start out useful, get even more useful very quickly, and stay at five stars for a long time.

Thoughts?

>>160214060
>fanatic individualist
>deviants
Enjoy the ethics divergence

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Nani

I finally got gud at Civilization. I won a game on Emperor. Feels good.

>>160215447
Poorfags.

Stability

Balancing

>>160215640
>Emperor
>got gud
Anon...

>>160215687
pls let me have this.

I couldn't beat civ 4 on settler

What mod's you guys recommend for stellaris?...i can never find a good mod setup without conflicts

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Is it even possible to get five military policies? I got the wonder for it, and now I'm looking at fascism's four policies and wondering if it was a waste.

>>160216209
Yes, you can get 5 military slots. You can even do 6 if you're Germany.

>>160214976
It doesn't matter in the slightest because everyone is so ridiculously happy.

What is an average length of a game in Stellaris?


I'm like 150 years in and I feel like I'm only just now getting to the part where expansion and neighboring empires matter.

>>160216209
>Play Germoney +1 Military Slot
>Get Facism Government 4 Military slot
>Get Alahambra while still in Facism +1 Military Slot
>Never change governments again as you'll lose the wonder bonus apparently
>Enjoy your 6 military slots

Has anybody encountered this bug in Stellaris yet?

I finished the Infinite Machine quest. But I didn't get any reward, the sphere floats inside the blackhole but nothing happens, it doesn't even dissapear and give +4 in research as it should.

Is there a way to solve this?

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Gotta have the last X in your 4X.

>>160216407
It will once they're far from the homeworld

>>160214976
Individualism no longer applies ethic divergence.

>>160217369
I just had the same thing happen!

Founding a religion, and as long as you keep your original religion, should forbid you from building science districts and wonders

>>160217452
Not really. They can change all they want to whatever they like, they'll still be happy as shit thanks to FI as long as you don't go literally hitler on the policies.

>>160218005
why?

>no railroads

Biggest flaw with civ 6

>>160218838
He's tipping his fedora.

>playing late game as USA
>Kongo's cities are so strong that rough riders only deal 2 dmg and die in one hit
wtf? Are nukes the only solution to this?

>>160217795
Is frustating as fuck, mostly because there is also no chance to get the best reward. So you are stuck with the getting one tech or destroying it.

Do you have any mods installed by any chance?

>>160220149
None whatsoever.

>>160219468
Artillery and balloons ya nig. Or stop fighting your own people.

>>160220258
There goes my best lead. I guess we'll have to wait for a fix.

>>160218987
The tech/civics trees look intentionally designed to be padded out at a later date.

>>160220534
>Or stop fighting your own people
huh?

>>160214060
Bumping this.

Does anyone have any thoughts? Is it worth going with Talented? I'd been using Communal, but with the other happiness bonuses I'm getting it seems like overkill.

Unconscious Consensus gives +10%, and you can elect First Speakers that give another +10%. Add that to the +15% of a Hyper-Entertainment Forum and the +10% of a Five Star Governor, and you're already looking at a +45% Happiness bonus -- that's 95%, which exceeds the 80% Habitability. That would max it out everywhere but a Gaia World!

>>160220608
Yeah, it's a shame.

I still love the game, though.

>>160220880
I would take Thrifty instead, talented is pretty meh

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How

the fuck

do I make friends?

I mean holy shit. I first met Tomyris. I still don't know if it's a boy or girl but I kept my mouth shut. I've been gifting Scythia every luxury resource I get my hands on along with a generous gold stipend. Bitch has so much fur and truffles and coffee and dye. I went out of my way to build cities for these things to gift. A thousand goddamn years I'm giving shit. Then I stumble across Gilgamesh and he won't even take my fucking gifts. Cleopatra comes floating by and I'm like 'Yo, welcome oh queen of the Nile. Want to sample my hospitality? We got some truffles that are the fucking bomb' and she's all 'Naw, you're a sand nigger' which seemed very 'Says the pot to the kettle'. I go a few turns wondering if I can find more dye because what epgyptian doesn't like dye and she denounces me two turns later. To be fair she denounces everyone rapid fire and got crushed into the sand so.. whatever.

Goddammit how the fuck do I get anyone to like me? I wana bro up with someone but no one wants to fucking bother other then city-states.

G-guise, I want to try stellaris while I wait for Civ6 to become good.

The real question here is /pirate/ or /buy/?

>>160221119
>How
>the fuck
>do I make friends?
the age old question many anons have ask

>>160221296
Buy the base game, pirate the dlc

>>160193687
>>160193884
"no"

Is there no option to team up even in single player mode?

>>160193687
>>160193884
How?

>>160220880
I don't have much use for talented since as long as your leaders aren't resting on their laurels they'll reach 5 stars easily. Maxing out the bonuses each one gives at 5 stars is neat I guess, but not worth wasting 2 trait points on. I would go with something that has stronger impact like one of the resource gathering bonuses or research bonuses.

Religion sucks dick and you shouldn't build a Holy Site unless you're Russia

>>160221296
Don't waste your time

The game is just "maek buildings" for the first 2 hours, then "upgrade buildings" for the rest

A

>>160222549
Research, maybe?

Oh, or Adaptable?

>>160222780
Adaptable is a good trait if you want to blob easily. I prefer tall rather than wide game play so I usually go for Intelligent or Thrifty.

>>160222965
>Tall.
>Tiny fleets.

lol enjoy getting mobbed by wave after wave of shitty ships

>>160223160
I'm speaking of early game. I prefer to go slowly at first and only start blobbing after I've built up a formidable economy and research lead. So I will often have fewer than average colonies by mid game, but it evens out going into late game.

I want to play Stellaris as a race that focuses on quantity over quality, with ultrafast breeding and possibly zerg rushing. What would I choose at race creation if I wanted this? Some sort of hivemind would be preferable.

>>160222046
www.nexusmods.com/civilisationvi/mods/24/?

>>160223825
Even though this sounds like the smart way, I prefer the exact opposite: seize territory on good worlds at the start even if research tanks, rely on hundreds of plasma corvettes for attack/defense once minerals reach enough of a critical mass for mass production, then start developing research worlds en masse to catch up quick before the FEs start awakening. There's a certain point where I control loads of territory with all kinds of worlds, then once I have the research rate under control and steadily increasing through sectors I start terraforming everything I envelop to consolidate. Then I prepare for the end war, since with a bit of luck I usually can dominate all my neighbours by 2300 with this.

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>someone declares war on me
>effortlessly brush off their antique units
>aggressor offers me a peace deal where I have to cough up everything I own
>push into their lands and start clearing their units to force a favorable truce
>now I'm the warmonger
>not just to the guy whose shit I just pushed in, but EVERYONE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I'M GOING TO NUKE EVERYONE

EVERYONE

EVERYONE FUCKING DIES

>>160219468
>late enough in the game to have cavalry
>doesn't know about the arty

>>160221119
Giving things to people doesn't make them like you. If you want Cleopatra to take your asp then you need to conform to her ideology (and also wait for the DLC that rebalances diplomacy).

>>160224457
I'd go
>rapid breeders (+)
>adaptive (++)
>fleeting (-)
>repugnant (-)

And for ethics, there's two setups:
>fanatic spiritualist (+15% pop growth speed)
>collectivist (-5% food consumption, plus 100% slavery tolerance and access to purges if you need them)
With this set up the best choice of government is Theocratic Oligarchy, which will give you reduced resettlement costs and also a bonus to leader lifespan that will cancel out the negative from the "fleeting" trait you picked.

The other is
>fanatic spiritualist
>militarist (the ethos itself isn't super valuable but it gives access to a nice government type)
The government you want with this setup is Military Dictatorship (+10% naval capacity, -10% ship build cost). Lets you spam ships.

>>160221119
By chance. You have to hope for a Civ with a primary and secondary agenda that completely agrees with everything you do.

Good luck with that.

>>160226029
Woops messed up on those trait calculations, you don't need the second negative.

>>160225727
This is the civilization version of the bullied nerd kid shooting up his school

>>160226157
Also you have to have the same form of government, never stand up for yourself militarily, and never leave your own borders.

Other civilizations just aren't worth it. They should all just be conquered or destroyed. In Civ 1-4 I'd leave them a rump state in the arctic, but since even they can churn out apostles and continue to pollute the world with their evil Taoist religion and get in the way of my fucking troops they can all just die, down to the last Chinese woman and baby.

Teams in single player when?

>>160225727
You're only a warmonger if you take cities. Just rampage around their land pillaging improvements, districts, and resources. Should fuck them up pretty good.

>>160224910
Is Plasma worth investing in?

It's got piddly damage compared to some other options.

>>160226567

Just played as Germany. Gilgamesh had Enkidu and the one where he liked how much gold I had.

>>160227443
Not him, but I enjoy playing as NOT Germany so I get to fuck his bitchboy pussy when he inevitably declares an ill-advised war against me.

>>160222965
So, I just gave Adaptable a shot, and... I'll be honest, I kind of miss the immediate benefits of Talented. Science went faster, my Admirals were better at their jobs, surveys were speedier...

So which starting weapon in Stellaris is best?

>>160227980
my big cock

>>160227980
I always liked Mass Drivers.
Just don't pick lasers. Lasers are shit tier now.

>>160227980
Mass drivers is the newest meta

>>160227980
Kinetic weapons. Lasers used to be OP but they've been nerfed repeatedly.

>>160227980
torps are still king at start

>>160227980
Mass drivers. Not as good damage application as lasers early game but the dmg bonus to shields makes up for it. I've been using kinetics all game no issues.

>>160227251
Still waiting on a Civ 6 Vassalization mod

Come to think of it I probably should look back up how Vassalization worked in Civ 4

Actually now that I'm thinking of it, does the AI ever make demands in Civ6?
I've never seen it

>>160228808

Meh, I'd rather be able to have an actual ally without them breaking the alliance for literally nothing.

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>>160227980
I'm going to agree with >>160228109, >>160228227, and >>160228408.

Kinetic Weapons start good and continue BEING good all through their tech-line.

Stick with the baseline Mass Drivers until Autocannons catch up in damage, then field a mix.

Corvettes and Cruisers should use Autocannons because they charge in, and Destroyers and Battleships should stick with Mass Drivers to take advantage of the longer range.

Larger ships should include Flak Battery/Artillery and Swarm/Whirlewind Missiles.

Battleships should use as many Large slots as possible for maximum deployment of Kinetic Artillery.

Note that all Point Defense (including Flak Battery) are considered Kinetic, so when you get the repeating technology you just POUND that motherfucker.

Throw Missiles some love every so often to keep your Swarm/Whirlwind Missiles competitive and you're golden.

>>160229245
The alliance expires after something like 30 turns, but I don't think there's a way to get out of it. I like to ally up with someone before going to war with somebody else, so that no matter how pissed he gets he can't fight me.

>>160228408
Haven't played in a while, what's wrong with lasers?

>>160229892
They've just been nerfed.

They aren't noncompetitive, really; they were overpowered before.

>keep everybody happy
>enter medieval age through a great scientist's power
>suddenly all these civs who liked me declare war on me
>kill one chariot, one surrenders
>my city-state razes a city from another
>I get blamed for warmongering over this

>Ballistic weaponry in space.

You'd have to go back to a planet to reload, guys!

>>160229892
Nothing really, they're still viable as weapons but they're no longer the must-have starter weapon because their armor penetration is down and they now deal reduced damage to shields to make up for having armor penetration.

>>160230147
Kinetic weapons you can at least create projectiles from any dense matter you find drifting in space, but to restock missiles you'd have to visit a port.

>>160230147
You could literally fire small chunks of tungsten at relativistic speeds and level a planets surface

>>160230346
Where am I going to get chunks of tungsten from?

>>160230463
Asteroid belts

>>160230346
Tungsten is extremely rare and basically never occurs in metal form naturally, it has to be processed. So you'd need to resupply some time.

>>160230613
Or you figure out a way to manufacture ammo from common materials you pick up from asteroids on board the ship.

>>160230613
Then use iron, at the kind of relativistic speeds it will be fired at it won't matter greatly

>>160230719
Yeah we already know how. You have to have an entire mining and refining operation. It's easier to just have a supply train.

>>160230820
You could fire a marshmallow at relativistic speeds and it would core a planet like an apple.

>>160226029
Militarist also allows you to just stay at war. The happiness penalties that quickly rack up from non-militarists going on offensive wars are not worth dealing with.

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>>160231152
>future wars are decided by someone flinging a coffee cup at a relativistic speed via subspace tunneling and pissing off that one guy at the office nobody liked
>he isn't mad you stole his coffee cup to end the Zukakkans, he's just irritated you took his favorite mug for it

>>160231658
He should be honoured to have aided in purging the xeno

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>>160231753
"Dwight, you purged the Xeno! That's hilarious!"
"MICHAEL THAT WAS MY FAVORITE MUG LIKE THAT IS MY PROPERTY I DON'T CARE IF IT'S FUNNY OH MY GOD"

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Why is the tech tree in Civ 6 so fucking stupid?

>>160232490
It's the worse yet. I'd actually prefer some random modder's tech tree at this point.

Is there a console command in Stellaris to add enemy ships? attackallfleets kind of works, but doesn't let me test stuff against NPC ships.

Social Policy tree when?
Might be an actual reason to get culture

>>160233402
What do you think all those cards are?

>>160233463
>>160233402
I think the problem with the cards is that there's no sense of progression in the current policy system, you can switch from pacifist to full on war machine way to easily. While I don't think we should go back to tradition to rationalism, some sense of progression would make things feel more natural.

>>160233463
Not as fun or as powerful

>>160234316
I think I'd like that you could switch governments and civics fast, but you had an underlying culture that wasn't as easily changed that function more like a civ5 policies, but was instead a representation of the civs cultures.
Those could be changed by tourism from other civs, or conquering other civs.

>>160214060
always pick intelligent + conformist + communal
negative traits always pick sedentary and weak/deviants if you are gonna use slaves

ethos: spiritualist + militarist + xenophobic
government: divine empire (autocratic spiritualist gov't whatever it's called)

With the virtual combat center plus symbol of unity plus symbol of purity mixed with spiritualist ethos, government type, and conformist/communal you'll always have happy and non divergent citizens.

Xenophobic for symbol of purity and ability to purge/enslave alien scum.

>>160220880
No talented is bad.
You have a chance to get new skills upon leveling up so it's better to go from 1 to 5 quicker rather than starting on 5.

>>160225727
Only if you take their cities
Also, yes, that's how it works in history too.
See: Qin getting COALITION'D.

>>160228808
How hard you think it would be to just flat up port C2C into Civilization VI
The main points I'm tough on are 1UPT (can it be modded out?), how districts would fit in, and religion.

>>160231036
You actually don't
With the sizes battleships look to be you can literally just drag a small asteroid (the 20 meter kind floating around), stuff it into a railgun and fire it using the little bit of ferromagnetic material inside it. Or honestly, just take your belt buckle that's kind of deformed or fling a dead ballpoint pen at a planet.

>>160227297
>>160238106
The game says warmonger penalties are refunded if you return the cities after making peace. THIS IS A LIE.

>>160232490
I actually don't mind the idea, I mind how it's implemented
They should have Civics and Technology that require each other (you can't get a Nuclear Program without knowing what atoms are) and scale up if you're going too far ahead (it's pretty doubtful you're going to understand Divine Right when you haven't figured out how to write)
They also need to fix progression and everything else about it.

>>160237762
Understood. I'll go back to Communal, then.

>>160237663
How accurate would you guys say this is?

Why won't the Sector AI build happiness buildings?

How do I git good at Distant Worlds?
I have 5000M population, and yet my resort stations are empty.

>>160238617
Not fully accurate.
There are nomadic strats.

Charismatic is a trait I'd always take if I was min/maxing.
The +relation bonus is not replacable in any way and allows you to push further into xenophobic fallen empries.

Most likely the virtual combat arena isn't worth it due to you sacrificing base yield for gaining a miniscule percentage bonus on that planet.

I was playing individualist once and found that there were a lot of cases where I wouldn't get more from the +15% happiness building over a mine.

>>160238893
I suppose that's true.

So, while we're on the subject of min/maxing, what is the 'best' build?

>>160238692
The AI obviously wants to build a robot empire.

>>160239119
Not sure.

I think in singleplayer Fanatic Pacifist is amazing.
In multiplayer I don't think you can go fanatic pacifist though. Standard pacifist and you can deal with people warring you a lot, if you need the paradise dome for something.


Can you invade pre ftl as xenophile+militarist?
If so probably something like that.

>>160237663
You can't take Conformists, Communal and Intelligent because you don't have enough points to afford all three with only two negative traits.

>>160230147
It's not like lasers just come from nothing, you'd need a lot more energy to produce them than you would to fire a missile or bullet so you'd still have to resupply at some point.

>>160239425
Technically speaking, laser would also consume supplies. Either batteries or lenses.
And the crewmember would require food, oxygen, sex, entertainement... Ships aren't self-sufficient.

>Xenophobes.
>Can't purge aliens.

>>160239290
I was under the impression that Fanatic Individualist/Materialist was the new metagame.

>>160239425
>resupply
Or...OR...
They could, you know
Just sit next to a star and enjoy absolutely ridiculous amounts of energy gathered in record time. It doesn't even matter what class of star you're next to with the energy levels they emit, M class dwarfs and O / B class monstrosities will provide enough energy for years at least in a matter of days.

>food
Can be grown, ships are like dwarf planet sizes if generic sci-fi is anything to go by

>oxygen / entertainment / energy
You could probably have fusion cells that just work off interstellar gas. Gathering it might be a problem but for larger ships they probably have a small atmosphere of their own anyway.

>sex
>implying this is a need
And if it is, sexbots / genetically engineered cocksluts.

>ships aren't self sufficient
They can be pretty close to self sufficient. Unfortunately, the laws of physics, thermodynamics and particle physics / QM in particular, are merciless in their ability to say literally nothing is self-sufficient forever, not even nothingness.

>>160240119
>sex
>implying this is a need
>implying it isn't
>implying sailors back in the days weren't all faggots because they needed to shove their dick in something

>>160240335
Sexbots and genetically engineered catgirls who subsist off your cock juice.

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>>160240486
>lewdposting on a Christian board

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>>160240641
>implying Christians aren't lewd as fuck
>I saw in his hand a long spear of gold, and at the iron's point there seemed to be a little fire. He appeared to me to be thrusting it at times into my heart, and to pierce my very entrails; when he drew it out, he seemed to draw them out also, and to leave me all on fire with a great love of God. The pain was so great, that it made me moan; and yet so surpassing was the sweetness of this excessive pain, that I could not wish to be rid of it.

>>160240871
Oh my.

Aren't Christians into spanking too?

>>160241604
I'm not sure about that but Saint Teresa is apparently a hard, HARD masochist.
>get fucking gutted by a spear
>a-ahn~

>>160239119
Pre-Heinlein, I would go Militarist/Fanatic Spiritualist with:
Charismatic, Industrious, Non-Adaptive, and I wanna say Communal? Used Tropical preference once I found out Tropical worlds have a weight for science tiles, and a further weight there for Society. Rush psionics, attach Psi-Commandos to your Assault armies, shit on everything, abuse tile weights to rush lasers into Tachyons before 2250.

That build still WORKS, but not nearly as stupidly well now that habitability percentages matter, and I -swear- tile resource weight was changed. I can't find the .txt that fiddles with it, though. Currently having the most success with Militarist/Xenophile/Individualist, as the changes to Individualist empire modifier is utterly ridiculous and allow happiness buildings to matter, even at non-Fanatic.

May not be meta, but if I were to attempt a min-max an SP playthrough? It'd be like this:
>pic related
Govt: Theocratic Republic
Ethics: Individualist, Spiritualist, Militarist (Give them malls, virtual arenas, and God. Once at -40% Divergence, they'll be more than happy to fund your slaughter of their home empire)
Traits: Strong, Charismatic, Non-Adaptive, Industrious /or/ Charismatic, Industrious, Sedentary
Strat: Play nice, expand aggressively, and always be ready to Liberate/Vassalize a fucker with your full Fleet. Always put Engineering to bigger guns or ships, salvage everything else. Open migration treaties to expand your colonization efforts. Make a planet checkerboard Silos and Mining Networks if you find a planet with a buff to mineral production, then make your next couple of planets focus on staying in the green for energy. You want Symbol of Unity ASAP, followed by Virtual Combat Arena. Try to take a race in with the Very Strong trait, and either build armies or put them in the mines.

If you have Leviathans, and find a trading enclave, just go full-retard on Energy or Minerals. Trading Enclave will provide for you.

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>>160243330
>this is the pic I meant to attach
Connection to board a shit

>>160241604
>now knowing about century old protestant guides on how to get a pussy as soaked as possible.

This fucking guy.

>>160240871
>that cheeky smile
>ayo I'm getting some prime ass tonight

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russia is the best civ just for meme forward settling alone

>>160239779
but they can, its just not enabled by default
click f8 to enable it

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>Trying to win culture victory as Gorgo
>It's the year 2023
>The only other significant power is Sumeria
>90% of which is Ziggurats spitting out science and culture
>This gives them enough culture to compete with me, slowing my culture victory to a sluggish, but inevitable conquest
>All the Great People were exhausted long ago, all that remains are Great Musicians only I can claim
>Norway was wiped off the face of my continent long ago, and Cleopatra is only kept alive as a puppet state to generate tourism and gold
>Rome, Sumeria, Scythia, China, and the city-state of Fukuoka are the only other civilizations alive, and all are on another continent
>All the other Japanese cities have been claimed except for the mountain fortress of Fukuoka
>Which consists of eight samurai, a builder, and a crossbowman packed onto 5 tiles surrounded entirely by mountains and rivers
>Somehow survived Sumeria's Helicopters and Tanks in the Renaissance Era
>Doesn't own a single resource
>Scythia is the only civilization I can reach Rome, Sumeria, China, and Fukuoka through to trade with
>They forward settle a single tile of land dangling off of my continent and declare war on me for "territory"
>that face when I'm locked out of trading my way to a culture victory
>Literally about to gift Rome, Sumeria, China, and Japan my shittiest cities on my own continent just to be able to trade with them

Oh god, Civ V is such a garbage fucking game

Is there any mod that adds something to let me upgrade all my military stations at once in Stellaris? If not there should be.

>>160239425
>>160240119
FUCKING RETARDS THE PROBLEM WITH LASERS IS THE HEATING DISSIPATION. DO YOU DUMB SHITS EVEN GO TO SCHOOL?

>>160241823
>"What are we gonna do on that torture rack?"
>pomf =3

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Guys I'm not sure which space strategy game I should invest my time into. There's Stellaris, Master of Orion, Endless Space 2 Early Access, Galactic Civilizations III, and shit there's probably more.

Any thoughts or suggestions? Master of Orion looks the most polished out of all of them, and apparently it's getting a huge update and it's first DLC before Christmas.

>>160221119
Go outside for once.

>>160249652
Master of Orion 2 looks pretty, plays pretty, but you can shit on any playthrough if you have population growth bonuses, doubly so if you add food production bonuses on top of it.

Made a custom race with both, I was winning six ways over and had was slated to lose every fleet battle I got into. Was competing for Tech victory with the turtle people who are all about population explosions and violence. I was also competing for diplomatic and economic victory with them, as well.

Unless that huge update totally revamps the system, population growth will shit on you every time.

I keep trying to get into Stellaris and it just doesn't hold my attention. I have no idea why, because I want to love it, but for whatever reason it just doesn't captivate me.

>>160249949
>Master of Orion 2
Do you mean Master of Orion 2 or Master of Orion 2016? MoO 2 came out in like 1996 or something and definitely does not look pretty.

>>160250091
I understand. I have the same issue with turn-based games.
I once literally fell alseep when playing Endless Legend. I'm not exageratting.

>>160250168
Yea MoO 2016, that's what I meant

>>160250168
>not liking retro graphics
Urgh, look at that pretentious cuck. I bet he's not even vegan, doesn't wear slim trouser, and doesn't support Quinn.
Brb, gotta play VVVVV, FEZ and Master of Orion 2 while complaining on my blog about people being uncultured.

Is the Encampment district very important in civ6? I'm pondering whether to build it. What kind of things will it provide for me that's important?

>>160251120
Production and free shots similar to walled cities. They're decent if you know you'll get attacked and you want extra protection.

>>160251120
Do you have 1 horse near your capital? Build it. 2 horses? No reason to.

>>160249020
Explain to me how heat dissipation is a problem for lasers in spessships who can afford to just have superconducting fluid circulating in ridiculous quantities to carry away the heat as necessary, when theoretically a laser doesn't actually need produce that much excess heat when being created (note that it's 2200).
Lasers are a poor weapon anyway compared to relativistic-speed kinetic bombardment, they have limited range and inferior punch.

>>160250363
Are you literally high
>implying retro graphics (always) look bad
AoE 2 AoC unironically looks better than Civ VI, especially Feudal Age which is top comfy.

>>160251194
>>160251240
I do have two horses, in fact I've got three of them. I have two iron as well, and I have two niter in my reach, so that won't be a problem either.

I guess this particular city will only be attacked if I'm already losing the war and three or four of my other cities is already losing to the enemy. But perhaps some of the other cities could have it then. How does it provide extra protection?

I wish the civ6 graphics weren't so cartoonish. They should've designed it to look more natural instead I think.

>>160251423
Are you fucking stupid? It's about conducting heat, it's about dissipating it from the entire space ship.
>muh hypothetical weapon is better than your hypothetical weapon
Consider post natal abortion

>>160252301
It's not about conducting (..)*

>>160252301
This kind of posting is the worst.

>>160252301
>>160252356
>dissipating it from the entire space ship
Entirely unnecessary, considering the size of the ship and the fact that they apparently use antimatter annihilation as a source of energy. The fact that they have a way of creating enough energy to actually fire off giant lazor beams implies they have a way of controlling, harnessing, and getting rid of that energy. You can't say 'there's a problem with the lasers' because there evidently isn't and there's no reason why you would need to generate ridiculous amounts of heat to create a powerful laser anyway, or I'd like to see which physical law implies it?

>muh hypothetical weapon...
But it is, because a laser eventually stops syncing and turns into an ordinary beam of light, is harder to create, and doesn't carry any more destructive power than a relativistic 'bullet'. The only reason it would be better is a lack of warning, but that's only if it doesn't have any wind-up time.

>>160252301
>implying weaponized lasers and railguns are hypothetical
The U.S. Navy disagrees.

>>160252510
The laser is generated by the laser you dummy not to the laser.
>implying implications being implied

>laser
>stops being SYNCING
That word doesn't exist and if it did it wouldn't apply to lasers. Lasers lose focus and inverse square law. It doesn't "sync". Stop posting, you are embarrassing yourself.
>>160252846
>in space

>>160252867
Stop syncing* Jesus fuck phone

>>160252982
>>160252867
This >no fun allowed guy goes through the physics and holds your hand along the way for you retards to understand.
>http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacegunintro.php

And play children of a dead earth. That guy gets it.

Looks like they're tweaking the ethoses in the next Stellaris patch, sounds cool

https://twitter.com/Martin_Anward/status/798482000403382272

>>160252867
>by the laser not to the laser
What the fuck does 'generating to the laser' even mean
Lasers do not "generate heat" on their own until they interact with particles (more like, they don't actually transfer the energy they carry until they hit something that it can be transferred to), and there is literally no physical reason why the process of creating the laser needs to create uncontrollable amounts of heat.
Show me the law that makes a laser 'generate' heat in a vacuum or near-vacuum. For someone playing the physics major game, you're not exactly using airtight terminology.
The actual creation of the laser also doesn't actually need to generate heat, contrary to that guy's claim, "But the even larger problem is the heat generated. A laser outputs only a tiny portion of its power as coherent light. The rest is dumped as heat, which goes into radiators". Nope, that's not required by any physical law. You're guaranteed to get heat generation, but 'tiny fraction' is not actually mathematically implied.

>lasers lose focus and inverse square law
Actually, the proper term is 'lose coherence', if we're playing the PHY201 smartass game. A (spatially) coherent beam is, essentially, in sync with itself, which is why I used that term.

>>160253037
>can't be CTRL-F'd
>horrendously poor design and navigation
Please.

>>160253674
Are you confirming your stupidity further? There is such thing as waste heat and that scales exponentially with laser power. There is a reason why lasers are measured in watts and wave lengths you stupid moron. The terminology is correct, you that are stupid enough to not understand it.
>low power lasers on earth
>no cooling or radiators because air
>high power lasers on space ships
>need to be high power because distances are large
>need cooling to get rid of waste heat
>has to dissipate heat with huge radiators because ship is floating in space
>as lasers grow the radiators become larger than the ship itself

It's something similar to the powerwall CPUs are reaching. It's something related physics, not engineering.

>>160253674
Laser synchronization means something completely unrelated you stupid fuck. I'm not even the guy you are arguing with, just probably another engineer.
https://www.rp-photonics.com/synchronization_of_lasers.html

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>be relaxing in my empire researching and chill
>suddenly fanatical purifiers declare war on me
>defend myself and protect my galaxy by wiping them out
>Somehow I'M the bad guy

>>160249652
Can we talk about this instead of having a heated internet debate about real life space weapons that do not yet exist?

In my opinion spaceships will be so fragile anything can damage them to the point of immobilizing them and/or killing off the crew inside due to heat or other means.

Who knows, maybe if we do at some point have super advanced traditional naval combat in space we'll just throw singularities or wormholes at our targets. Point is, it's all speculative bullshit.

So, anybody have some games recommendations?

>>160253946
>the terminology is correct
It is not. A laser does not lose focus, it loses coherence. Try googling PHY201 textbooks harder.

>there is such a thing as waste heat that scales exponentially with laser power
And that isn't relevant, because laser efficiency has a pretty damn high theoretical limit.

>because air
While this isn't actually relevant because air is hardly going to be anything at the energy levels we're on about, battleships are (probably) at a size where you'd expect them to have an atmosphere of their own.

>there is a reason why lasers are measured in watts
...what the fuck else would they even be measured in? Kelvin? Coulombs? Joules?
>wave lengths
...Wave lengths aren't a unit, they're a variable / parameter, unless you meant in wave lengths of the laser itself.

>radiators
Have only a thermodynamic upper bound on efficiency depending on how they actually work and there isn't as much heat as you think to begin with.

>CPUs
Correct, it's a hard limit due to the way particle physics works, but that limit doesn't exist for lasers

What are we even arguing about?
I only picked this up because you quoted me and called me a "FUCKING RETARD" when, now that I look at it, I didn't even actually mention lasers in my post.

>>160254025
I used imprecise but easier to visualize terminology on purpose because I didn't know how much the other guy understood. A laser is essentially a light beam that is synchronized with itself, even if that isn't the technical term.

>>160254546
>that limit doesn't exist for lasers
Or rather, it exists, but it's not as harsh as you think and depends mainly on how you're generating the laser itself, which even your website acknowledges.

Why don't space 4X games ever have proper space combat? Celestial objects don't just sit motionless anchored to a geosynchronous orbit around the local star, they orbit, move, and interact with each other. Same would be true for ships and projectile weapons. They'd be affected by gravity, orbits, stellar phenomena, etc.

Space games are basically all aircraft or naval vessels using traditional planes of movement, static in their systems, and move about freely with no regard to how gravity works. It's just traditional Earth naval gameplay with a space skin.

>>160254546
>>160254595
kys this is /civ4xg/

>>160254685
I know, newfag. We had these '''''discussions'''' since the almost the day Stellaris came out.

>>160254665
Because it'd be too autistic for the target audience who just wants to play at being Kirk.

>>160254749
>calling others newfag
Go back to /s4s/ or /b/ and then kys, newfag

>>160254796
If you're so new that you don't know off-topic is the trademark of /vg/ then I don't know what to say.
And the tasteful way to refer to the nicest board is [s4s], not /s4s/.
you should've told me to go to /pol/, since that's where the newfags are these days.

>>160254919
>this autist doesn't operate on several levels of irony

>>160254665
Because it would basically be Kerbal Space Program with a dash of pew pew every few weeks/months and MAD times a thousand. Look at Children of a Dead Earth if you want something like that.

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>>160255052
Looks like you're one level lower than me when it comes to irony.

>>160246969
I've checked the purge policy.

It's greyed out.

>>160255764
After you discover or make contact with a xenos empire you should be able to get the "Xenos Only" option in the Purge and Enslave policies.

>be comfy militarist xenophobe
>conquering and purging
>FE Wakes up and starts bullying everyone
STOP IT.

>>160243330
Why bother with Strong?

Just for the resource bonus?

Also, I'd heard that F. Industrialist was the new, big overpowered option; is this not the case?

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i really don't think people realize how dangerous of a mindset "Don't worry just mod it" is.

Devs are realizing they don't have to try anymore because fans will polish the game for them. We can already see it with Bethesda's commitment to mod servers for Fallout 4 and new Skyrim.

Don't handwave shitty broken AI and say "mods will fix it." Demand a better product.

>>160256194
>demand a better product
It's not possible unless you want them to take out modding potential because modders move fucking fast.

>>160243330
Individualist instead of Xenophobic?

Or is the intention here to blob as large as possible with a stable of vassal-species?

Like Rome, I guess?

Once conquered, the defeated become Roman?

Friendly reminder that you can use the console command 'ticks_per_turn' in Stellaris to speed up the game so it's not such a slog in slower starts, like during startup or while waiting for resources.

>>160255264

TOSHINO KYOKO!

>>160256716
holy dooly mate thanks for the SICK info you got a recommended TPT?

>>160257419
It depends on your specs. I'm using 5.

The higher you set it, the more frames you lose so you'll need to pause the game to do things more.

>>160221119

By being the most advanced civ by far. You'd be surprised how attitudes change when their faction hates everyone and is hated by everyone, and the biggest kid on the block sends out the diplomatic overtures.

>>160243330
>Non-Adaptive.

Oh, man, I would -- but I think it's still bugged.

>>160255919
Oh!

Thanks!

>>160257751
Is it?

How?

>>160254275
>Protect my galaxy
>By purguing them out.

You had to purge less.

>>160259354
>purge less
has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>>160259628
>has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Is this a real sentence?

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>>160240871
>have a piety fetish

N-not flustered at all...

>>160259997
trolling is a art
newfriend

>>160259628
You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. It's just common sense.

>>160260437
Allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go.

>>160260549
>doggy dog world
had to google to see that its actually a correct phrase and not a retard way to say dog eat dog world

>>160260549
I UNDERSTAND, BUT LOOK AT THE PICTURE!!! See the skull, the part of bone removed, the "master-race" Frankenstein radio controls, the Brain-thoughts Broadcasting Radio, the Eyesight Television, the Frankenstein Earphone Radio, the Threshold Brainwash Radio, the latest new skull reforming to contain ALL Frankenstein Controls, even in THIN skulls of WHITE PEDIGREE MALES! Visible Frankenstein controls! The synthetic nerve-radio directional antennae loop! Make copies for yourself! There is NO ESCAPE from this worst gangster police state, using ALL of the deadly gangster Frankenstein controls!

In 1965, CIA gangster police BEAT ME BLOODY, dragged me IN CHAINS from Kennedy New York Airport! Since then I HIDE in forced jobless poverty, isolated alone in this low deadly niggertown old house. The brazen, deadly Gangster Police and niggerpuppet underlings spray me with POISON NERVE GAS from automobile exhausts and even lawnmowers! DEADLY ASSAULTS, even in my yard with knives, even bricks and stones, even DEADLY TOUCH TABIN or ELECTRIC SHOCK FLASHLIGHTS; even remote electronically controlled around-corners-projection of DEADLY TOUCH TARANTULA SPIDERS or even bloody-murder "accidents" to shut me up forever with a Sneak Undetectable Extermination!

Until my undetectable extermination, I, Francis E. Dec, esq., 29 Maple Avenue, Hampstead, New York, I STAND ALONE against your mad, deadly, worldwide conspiratorial Gangster Computer God Communism with wall-to-wall deadly Gangster protection, life-long sworn conspirators, Murder Incorporated, organized crime, the police and judges, the Deadly Sneak Parroting Puppet Gangsters using all the Gangster deadly Frankenstein controls! These hangmanrope sneak deadly gangsters, the judges and the police, trick, trap, rob, wreck, butcher, and MURDER the people to keep them TERRORIZED in Gangster Frankenstein earphone radio slavery for the Communist Gangster Government and con-artist Parroting Puppet Gangster-playboy scum-on-top!

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guys anyone of you played Star Ruler 2?
Is it any good?
Screens don't look bad and i am considering it.
It's also way cheaper than Distant Worlds

>>160261636
It's a pretty strange game. Kinda like AI War, it feels like an experimentation rather than a full game, and that fact is both what makes it interesting and what makes it annoying.

To put it simply, you don't have colony ships, and most planets just produces one type of ressources. In most case, it's food or water.
By exporting these to another planet, said planet will level up and be able to house more people, which means more money and more production.

Fleets don't really exists, in place, you have one capital ship, and depending from its blueprints, it can bring support ships (small shits) with it.

And I while diplomacy is innovative with cards to buy and use, it's pretty annoying since they cost you influence to buy AND to use.

>>160261636
I bought it a long time ago because it looked to be promising, but's not that fun for me, but I'm a person who loves MoO II, Stellaris, Endless Legend, Endless Space and Sword of the Stars.

Star Ruler II does have some interestning mechanics. I dont have a problem with the doplomacy, but the tech tree is mostly filled with boring techs that only gives % boost to what you already got instead of new stuff and the planet system becomes really boring after a while. Also, designing ships is a hit or miss. The good thing is that you can save designs that stays in the game until they are deleted.

PS. So far ES1 got better combat than ES2 unless there is something I have missed.

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>>160254665
Nobody fucking wants that. What people want is Star Wars/Babylon 5/Deep Space 9 tier mass battles.
Which they still largely fail to provide.

>>160254665
Star Ruler does that, to an extent : every item has inertia.

And it's a fucking pain in the ass to play.

>>160266676
I wanted Europa Universalis in space, with MASSIVE fleet.

>>160256194
Take a third option. Hire the modders. What could go wrong?

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>>160256194
That's what I've been trying to say, but shills keep saying "patches will fix it ;)" when proved that relying on mods is wrong.

>>160270851
Romero tried that with Daikatana. It was a failure. Modders don't work well as a team.

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Can even god help me at this point?

>>160271802

You'll be fine. Just murder their melee units with those FIVE archers you got

>>160271802
you can hold this with 2 archers anon, your 5 should do just fine

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>>160271879
>>160272028
Archers don't really work that well against knights though

>>160271802
You've got the superior force. Why are you worried?

What the fuck is in the Deluxe Edition of Civ 6? A season pass?

Hows the performance compared to Civ V?

>>160273008
Graphics requirements seem about the same, but loading/saving/turns are much slower.

>>160273131
They made turns fucking slower? How is it even possible to fuck up so much?

Alright, screw that shit. What other games are people playing? I don't care what the setting is as long as it's good. Seems like there are a lot of space games nowdays.

>>160253453
Neat. Though I hope this isn't all they have planned, game still needs loads of features for diplomacy.

>>160274234
More so the loading and saving

>>160273131
>turns are slower
:DDD

>>160273131
>>160274234
I've noticed loading is slower, but saving and turns seem MUCH faster than Civ 5 for me

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Still nothing. Usually in cases such as this I declare war myself, but I'm already beyond fucked by the warmongering penalty from stealing Egypt's settler
>>160274234
>>160273131
Don't believe his lies, it runs much better than Civ 5. I literally tried to play it yesterday and it felt fucking awful. In 6 there's less stuttering, all the loading screens are 10 times smoother and faster, but yeah there's none of that shitty new age-esque vaporwave aesthetics of the fifth

>>160274641
Yea, the initial turns when there's nothing on the board are super quick.

>>160274809
Loading is definitely much slower. Late turns can be slower. Graphics requirements as I said are about the same. And bullshit on loading screens being 10 times faster.

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Is this the best new Stellaris achievement?

>easy difficulty
>have to use invincible to not get steamrolled
At this point, I just don't care anymore.

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>Ooga Booga denounces me one turn after founding my religion for not spreading my religion
OK

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>>160274809
This poster is correct, Civ V is horrible in comparison to VI. VI has much smoother loading times, optimized tech trees, much less unit stuttering and balance is 10 times faster. Not to mentoin the fantastic loading screens VI has. V is just deprecated garbage. Noone plays it anymore. Jump on the VI hype train before it's too late!

please buy the game

I dont trust this cute benchmark they've got that spends 90% of its time away from the main continent. Anyone know where I can download a save file of a huge game?

>start new game in stellaris
>lots of planets that are the right type next to me
>gaia world
>25 tiles
>holy world
oh no

Help please. How do you install the mods from the mega folder in stellaris and enable them? I was googling but can't work it out. I managed to do it back in 1.1 but haven't played since and can't remember

>>160279619
http://stellaris.smods.ru/
use this, it pulls them from the steam workshop and has the full steam description + a link to the mod there to see if the comments say its not working for 1.3.2
when you download a mod in the archive there is a .txt file that tells you how to add the mods to your game
you have to create the folders that you are missing
enabling is just clicking on the mod from the stellaris launcher

Should I get Stellaris or Civ 6?

>>160280142
Stellaris is kinda bad and will need about 50 dlcs to become good.
Civ VI is flawed and will need patches to become good.

>>160279989
Thanks mate, I really want advanced ship behaviour + more ship classes. Anything else you'd suggest? Haven't checked all the mods yet

>>160272274
>no encampment with stables
You brought this upon yourself.

>>160275238
Fuck no, Paradox shouldn't be making fun of that shit. People have fought their entire lives to make the truth known and they just come over and make light of it.

Haven't played a Civ since 2 and looking to get back into it. Can't do that til I get a new PC. Doing two identical builds for my wife and I and I have a couple questions.

Regarding RAM, how important is speed? I notice that one of the cheaper motherboards I saw has a category for "memory standard," which it lists as DDR4 2133. Does this mean that this board won't support DDR4 3000?

Secondly, I'm looking at an i5 6500 and a GTX 1060 (6GB). Will this setup effectively run most current games at 1080/60 with settings turned up?

I appreciate the advice. Feel a bit jetlaggged as I haven't done a build since 2010. Thanks.

>>160281058
more crisis mod, to let more than 1 happen
some lower warscore mod, vanilla values are dumb
ui overhaul 1080/1440p is needed if you want to use new ship classes
land reclamation lets you "buy" new tile on a planet for 200 influence
stellar expansion - geoengineering lets you terraform an already colonized planet
i like the changes from isb balance but in order to work properly with improved ship behaviour and new ship classes you have to edit a couple of files
imperial routine seems interesting but i ditched the 1 game i was playing with it so couldnt see how good or bad it is
it gives sectors more depth, they will act more like a vassal

>>160275238
omg brb sending this to alex
expect a new video within the hour

>>160227359
It's great for busting big ships, and the AI uses a lot of those later on.

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>finish action with unit in civ 6
>select another one
>it automatically jumps to a new unit in no particular order
>drags screen with it
>doesn't de-select the unit I clicked
>accidentally move where I WASN'T PLANNING TO
>workers, battles and cities lost this way
>can't turn off this feature in the options menu
>can't ever turn off the settler terrain view which fucks with the eyes

CID CIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD GOD FUCKING DAMN IT CCCIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

So have they said anything about civ 6 at all? Like on twitter or fucking anything? I keep checking steam news but nothing.

>>160285581
You can still edit that in the config file

It'd be a valid complain on release day but now if you don't do that you're just being lazy

>>160285691
Firaxis has been incredibly tight-lipped as a company for almost their entire existence, going even as far back as Alpha Centauri. You'll get pre-release hype press, then radio silence for at least a month or two, then they'll drop a patch or something and go back to their stone impression.

They don't really believe in post-launch PR.

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>>160206791
>Play as the Culture
>Uplift and liberate primitive races.
>They never join your empire because of tech differences.
>Galaxy is still full of assholes despite my best efforts.

>Play as the Idrans
>Conquer everybody
>Enslave everybody
>Meet fanatical purifiers
>Purge their homeworld
>Keep a small number of them alive and enslaved on a tiny colony devoted almost entirely to mineral production
>Make the galaxy a better place through slavery and genocide.

If the Banks update isn't entirely devoted to fixing this, I fucking swear.

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>>160276586
Well that's one desperate false-flag. V is definitely a horrible fucking game even after all the additional content

>>160255981
Resource Bonus and army damage. You get guaranteed invasion success if you Light bombard fortifications to about half strength, and then you fight off a majority of the AI trying to counter-invade. That and your Gene Warriors will be steps above anyone else's by nature of that stat.

>>160256662
Pretty much, you integrate as many species as possible and use them for whatever good they are. Malls, arenas, and God make anyone like your policies. Divergence can eat a dick when you add in Artisan Troupe 'commissions' to effectively cap off happiness. Troublesome races (Deviants flaw or just diametrically opposed to you) can eat Mind Control Lasers, which you get by researching Artificial Moral Codes->Synthetic Thought Patterns->Will To Power. Those lasers give -30% Divergence, and I'm convinced only one type of ethos is supposed to get it but I have yet to find out which it makes sense on.

>>160257751
You get habitability boosting techs super early. Engos Vapor and the habitat filtering tech combine to put you back to where you need to be. That, and if you're lucky, you can just uplift some race with Tomb World preference. 60% habitability everywhere and don't require happiness penalties spiritualists would normally get with robots.