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>Atlas of Worlds information
general: https://www.pathofexile.com/atlasofworlds
atlas mechanics: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1714099
>2.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1716228
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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1st for depression
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swearing here is forbidden
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anyone else here tired of being alive
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Best chance at holding down scorching ray without dying?

juggernaut?
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Witch's feet
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>>160144260
>>160144327
>>160144517
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> twitch
> mathil
> being in you're 20s and caring about anything.
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>>160144563
Scion
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>>160144651
want to see some of mine anon?
spoiler because its not anime and kind of a downer
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>>160144717
why is that?
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>>160145023
because she can pick Juggernaut plus another ascendancy
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>>160145467
>armor, stun resistance, 10% endurance charge
fuck off
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1767118

ahahahaha
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*raises paw*
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>>160146512
this will please a lot of furfags
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only took them 5 years lol
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scion did not skip leg days
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>>160146920
T H I C C
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>>160146798
Ripkoamspath so they're shortening it
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im a pretty funny guy i think i should be a comedian
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>>160146798
>RIPKaomsPath
finally
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>>160146798
what armor skin is that
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>>160146220
>cybil's paw
little late for anyone to care
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>>160147385
Bronn's Lithe or however you spell that
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>>160147994
I think it will be used in some Scorching Ray builds.
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>>160149739
Why would it?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deooTFBqKmA

fix my build /poeg/
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>>160151192
>uploaded by Elliot Anderson
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>>160151192
>4k ES as CI
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>>160151420
i-im not hiding from anyone
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>>160151192
wow that looks SO bad given the investment
4k es and you're clearing some shitty t6 slower than projectpt, is this a joke or something
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>>160151741
EXACTLY FIX IT
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>>160151858
there's no fixing 4k es at level 85
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>>160151954
>u need more ES

ok thats somewhat helpful anon ty

im new, so any advice is helpful
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>>160151954
i have 4k life at 82
there's another 2k ES on top of that though
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>>160152040
my advice: salvage all the gear you can, delete character, start another

don't respec to CI unless you can break at least 7-8k

occultist gets 100 flat ES and a shitton of %ES, there's no justification ever being at lower ES than what a marauder gets in life by the end of cruel
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>>160151192
First of all 2 rings of the brotherhood's extremely retarded. If you want to use cold damage, get Nuro's Harp instead because right now you have 40% cold damage and 60% Chaos.

You need a chest with around 900 ES if you're gonna be running so many unique.
You can change socket color with Vorici 8 even if corrupted.
Drop Grace, it doesn't do shit for you.
Get Purity of Elements if you can't get decent replacement rings, then run Discipline instead.
Get a good pair of boots (probably just get that Chaos Warband one).
Run one Doedre's Damning for the extra curse.

Get another amulet with +curse and some resist/ES/%ES (expensive as hell).

If anything, you should just drop a curse.
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is CI ZO viable?
10% life regen with ZO+15k ES is 1500 ES regen per sec...
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>>160151192
>drop all of the ES and CI
>go LIFE/ES/EV hybrid
>drop soulstrike, get a rare quiver
>take chaos -res instead of wickedward
>drop assassins mark, drop the boots get as much life and resists as possible
>take the +30 dex nodes, stop converting int
>grab accuracy and crit node combo
>use split arrow+chain or lightning arrow+gmp to apply curses
> consider making a 4L for single target to get more reliable freeze, tornado shot is trash for high life target freezes
>consider just using Nuro's harp and cold steel jewels instead of voltaxic + 2 COTB i think it will be better
>consider: cold doryani's+atziri's promise
>get the 20% freeze duration you skipped, thats huge
>consider running purity of elements
>get a better computer

>>160152843
he has 60% cold and 40% chaos

i like what he is doing with voltaxic ONLY because there is so many good lightning AND cold nodes in the witch area that it makes it very efficient, probably way better than he will get with nuro's desu
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Aa dev whispered me just to tell me that I got muted
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Was it Sarah_GGG? If so, I whispered you.
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>>160154363
Nope, some robthreeggg fucker, but please continue doing so so I can know who tell to suck my dick
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>>160154363
You should stop posting and go back to work
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turdbirds out
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>>160155495
Post cats.
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>>160155704
turkroach cat
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>>160151192
By all means listen to the other people because your defenses need to be revamped.

Just RMT for Exalteds and buy yourself a sick Lightning Rare Bow, it will be much much much much better than a fucking Voltaxic for this build. Maybe even disgustingly good.

Your defenses are gutter tier, though.
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norm taste
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2.4.2 says it'll have 3 new skills
They're the new channel ones, yeah?
They only showed 2 of them though
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>>160157384
They showed 3.
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>>160157384
Burning Pee, Pee Spray, and Peeing AIDS

They showed all 3.
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>>160157629
>Burning Pee, Pee Spray, and Peeing AIDS
Ok, without the autism what are they?
I know incinerate 2.0, and the 'attack' one, what's the third?
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>>160157719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDVODOGu1Wg&t=0s
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>>160157719
Blight
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>>160157806
>>160157805
So, it's chaos incinerate
with a large arc

they've just run out of ideas, haven't they
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>>160157880
They ran out of ideas after flameblast
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>>160157974
the attack one wasn't bad in terms of originality
but the other 2 are just a reskinned incinerate
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>>160157880
i think there was a true genius working at GGG who basically designed the entire game but they left the company a few years ago

that's just my theory though. i don't know how else to explain why all the new content is boring
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>>160158054
Yeah, I was actually looking forward to the channeling attack but again for the 20th time I see another visually disappointing skill. I was expecting to see multiple shadow clones of myself or something but it just looks like vomit
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>>160158076
Rather than running out of ideas, they're running into technical difficulties with their shit programmers. Whatever they wanna actually do they can't because the whole engine's fucked.
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Is it just me or are a lot of builds on the forums really inefficient?

Maybe I just don't understand the passive tree enough but it seems like some builds go extremely out of the way for a couple of nodes. Shouldn't you want as few +dex/str/int nodes as possible?
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>>160158246
They need to transition into PoE 2 rather than adding Act 5
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>>160158510
What for? They're making hard cash.
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>>160158579
Chance to improve the engine
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>>160158498
That depends. I usually use an amulet of the lacking stat, but only enough to use my gem setup. But only if I dont need a specific unique ammy for the build. Having stat mods on gear also helps.

And yeah, some forum's builds are inefficient. And that "low budget" one, is not budget tho
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stop posting here
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Don't tell me what to do
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>>159950328
>free
>>160042697
>free
>>160074041
>FREE
>>160074145
>free
>>160127068
>free
>>160129069
>free
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>>160158640
The main benefit would be a chance to reset the power creep.
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>>160160362
You're getting lazy.
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>>160160541
That too

improve engine
fix skill balance
make skills unique again
remove pathfinder
balance tree
remove ascendancy since literally no one likes it
fix shitty uniques that aren't unique
remove pathfinder
make totems great again

plenty to do
think people would prefer a more balanced game with a higher variety of skill builds than a fifth act

It'd be nice if the only important factor for an endgame build wasn't clearspeed
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>>160160663
>remove pathfinder
>twice

lul
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Who already planning builds for next league?
What are the chances the new skills are fun enough to level with and scale into end game? Or am I kidding myself and we're all gonna go EQ, BV and VSpark again?
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>>160160913
going to play something 'fun' until i get enough currency to build a pf bv ci
you cant stop me
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>>160159350
how dare you speak to me
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go outside and gaze upon the big blue sky

your personal horizons should be as broad
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>>160160913
>What are the chances the new skills are fun enough to level with and scale into end game?
Why don't you find that out yourself?
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>>160160663
>Hi, I'm catshitter and my understanding of game design is basically zero
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>>160161743
Not my fault you play pathfinder
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I'm pretty new to this game. This belt any good?
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>>160161830
'no'
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>>160161813
You're garbage at the game, whether one considers ascendancy choice or not.
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>>160161869

Really? Every similar belt on poe.trade was worth quite a bit
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>>160161830
It's not bad.

Add another resist and vaal it for a relevant implicit if you want a chance at something real good though.
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>>160161957
Then why don't you trust poe.trade? stop littering this general with your shitty price checks, this isn't your personal /global 1
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there is more to life than poe
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>>160162168
So why are you still here?
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>>160161909
I'm no expert on faggotry, but it seems like you're projecting pretty hard, m8
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>>160162273
>"remove ascendancy since literally no one likes it"
>"Not my fault you play pathfinder"
>"S-S-S-S-Stop p-p-p-projecting"
Stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>160162378
You're saying that you like the labyrinth?

I'm finding it hard to keep up with your 'argument' since you're making no sense whatsoever.
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lab is fine
it's supposed to be difficult

ascendancies are great
they just need to be incrementally balanced

kys catshitter
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>>160162668
lab isn't difficult
it's boring
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>>160162509
>you're making no sense whatsoever.
Okay, let me me make it as straightforward as possible since you seem special:

1) catshitter assumes no one likes Ascendancy despite the Ascendancy expansion being one of, if not the most popular one to date => Projection, objectively wrong one.

2) catshitter assumes I think he's a full-blown retard because I play Pathfinder => Projection and incoherence. The reason people, me included, don't like Pathfinder is that it eclipses the two other Ranger ascendancies, if not the rest of all ascendancies, not the fact that ascendancies exist in the first place.

Choices are good, Pathfinder removes the meaningful of choice because it's too good on its own right now.

3) Labyrinth is subjectively shit but has very little to do with the 'argument' and no one mentioned it until you.

4) "S-S-S-S-Stop p-p-p-projecting" is not a valid rebuttal when you're projecting hard in the first place. If you dislike the idea of meaningful choices and view thinking as a difficult activity, go play Diablo 3, or Minecraft like catshitter.
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Have you prayed to our lord and savior today, poeg?
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what are some maps
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>>160163035
>Ascendancy expansion being one of, if not the most popular one to date
Source
>don't like Pathfinder is that it eclipses the two other Ranger ascendancies
It eclipses every single ascendancy
I've never said any different
Fuck are you even on about?
>subjectively shit
It's a mandatory chore with 0 variance.
Objectively shit.
>"you're projecting" isn't a valid argument, but I'm now going to say that you're projecting
?????
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The problem with the pathfinder isn't the pathfinder, it's the busted unique potions.
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>>160163202
what meme non-meta build has he been playing?

does he have a personalized atlas like he predicted before the start of the league would be optimal?
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name ONE build
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>>160163235
So because one ascendancy is too good right now, instead of tuning down said ascendancy to bring it on par with the others, your brilliant idea is to remove the 18 other choices altogether? Wow, everyone should listen to your extensive knowledge of game design, retard.

>>"you're projecting" isn't a valid argument, but I'm now going to say that you're projecting
You're objectively projecting when you say no one likes Ascendancy.
If that was the case, the game would have died 2 leagues ago and you wouldn't be here shitposting every day.
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>>160163336
ah yes, invasion league

it was the best of times and the worst of times
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>>160163307
fuck off Steyox
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>>160163307
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>>160163425
>So because one ascendancy is too good right now, instead of tuning down said ascendancy to bring it on par with the others, your brilliant idea is to remove the 18 other choices altogether?
No, it isn't.
Haven't you been paying attention at all?
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My neighbor is having REALLY loud sex AGAIN. While I'm watching Grave Encounter.
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kripp has more viewers streaming Diablo 1 than all D3 streamers have had all month

really makes you think
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>>160163860
did he break up with his gf
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champion is my favourite ascendancy

make them more powerful but in more unique and niche ways
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why path of exile is so focused on solo play instead of comfy duo-play /poeg/? I agree that more than 2 is cancer tho
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>>160164231
What are you talking about? having an aurabitch or just someone else to carry their own weight makes the game 10 times easier.
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>>160164231
because you get terrible fps in parties these days

you could play in a full party years ago but not anymore
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>>160163948
aren't they married?
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>tfw you were just trying to get a 5L for your starter, entry level vaal regalia
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>>160164231
but the strongest combos are dps+support.

>32k ES
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>>160164475
I mean I'm happy for you, but why didn't you buy a better ES chest with your OVER ONE THOUSAND chaos orbs before trying to get a 5L?
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>>160162668
My problem with lab is that there isn't any equivalent alternative if you want to get rich.
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>>160164672
thats why i clarified it was just a starter vaal regalia, I only spent 10c on it. there were no other sub-50c with decent stats, it was either that 10-15c level chest or 200 chaos 5 links, and I didn't want to blow a fifth of my currency when I needed all the other gear.
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>>160164748
I made about 2k chaos this league from prophecies, they are profitable as hell and low risk.
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>>160164748
if you can't make currency just from playing you suck
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>>160163307
who wants to give me a cospris for 1ex

because thats all i have
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just spent 80c buying warbands maps
dumbest challenge ever
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>>160165396
>going for 40/40
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>>160165417
there is literally nothing else to do waiting for 2.5
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>>160165478
get a life
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>>160165478
if you can't think of a new build to try that interests you with all of the currency you have at this point in the league, then you should probably just take a long break until 2.5
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>playing poe more than one week into a new league
lmaoing rn
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i play poe to cope with my depression

wish i could turn off my depression 48 weeks a year but it doesn't work that way
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>>160165745
iktf anon
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Sup /poeg/. With the upcoming league, I was wondering what the best way to make currency early was. I heard some say running Uber in the first week to get red maps, others say mapping to sell crafting bases, farming Atziri, etc. For once, I have a decent chunk of free time to allocate to the start of the league and I was wondering how to make the best of it.
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>>160165949
Doing a build for farming Uber lab as early as possible is pretty much the most stable way to make currency at the start of the league, since every single person will be wanting an Uber lab carry. Off the top of my head EQ Juggernaut can do Uber lab in the first couple of days.
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>>160165949
The best way to make currency is to do what most others can't do. First day of the league, that might be spamming chaos recipe, then Atziri, then Uber lab, etc. You basically have to be ahead of the curve at all time. The most straightforward way is simply to be ahead in the exp race and progress through maps, selling whatever lower maps you don't need since everyone will need them for their own atlas.
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>>160165949
git gud
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for the depressu fags itt

if i started a weekly discord voice chat where we can talk about our problems and how to cope

would you be interested?
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i have social anxiety and i don't like talking to other people so no
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>>160165612
ur in the wrong gen desu senpai
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i'm not saying go be a normie

just realise there is more to life than poe and slowly try and appreciate it
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i hate people and have no interest in anything
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when are they going to announce news about the new league

i'm expecting bad news desu
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4L shaper kill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ybr3XxSntA
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>>160168160
>cuckcore
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EVE online f2p is starting tomorrow poeg!
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>EVE online
we're not autistic here
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>we're not autistic here
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>>160168749
Any information on the f2p model yet?
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>>160169172
Slow training and you can only choose few skills as f2p character. PLEX still obligatory.
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>>160169172
>f2p = alpha state
>alpha state = shitty restricted game
>train and farm enough ISK(currency) to buy a PLEX(game time)
>alpha state becomes omega state
>omega state = full game

i'm not sure how long it will take to farm enough ISK to buy a PLEX, but it's probably going to take quite a while; like at least a few weeks of poopsocking, probably a month or two
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>>160168749
neat

what are the limitations?
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>>160169290
I'll try it out as long as alpha state isn't too shitty, I've always like going around mining and bounty hunting in Elite Dangerous
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First exalt just dropped in Essence after about 15 days of gametime since I started playing a few months ago. Any faceroll builds I can buy most of this with?
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>>160169456
it's going to be shitty. you'll be stuck mining in high-sec with a shitty ship. you'll have to join a corp(guild) and get a lot of help from people with cargo ships that can carry your mined ore to trading outposts and then pay you. it's going to be extremely boring and take a really long time, and you're likely to get ripped off by people at least a few times along the way
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what is the best single target lightning spell
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>>160170592
arc
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>>160170592
Probably Storm Call.
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>>160170769
isn't the delay shitty for fast mobs?

i need something reliable
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>>160170802
Reduced Duration exists.
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>>160169848
ED
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Who would win in a fight between the Pale Council and the Dark Masters?
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>>160170592
discharge
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>>160170948
Inya's tome solos.
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this looks stupid as FUCK
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>>160170769
holy shit

i just tried storm call w/ echo and faster casts and reduced duration

its literally better than any single target ele bow skill by far lol

wp ggg
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>yellow/gold in perandus
>pink in prophecy
>light blue/cyan in essence

i wonder what the "theme color" of the next league is..
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>>160173591
>pink in prophecy
Purple/Violet
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>>160173591
grey would be the color if i had a heart
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>>160173726
yeah i guess you're right, my latest memory of prophecy was the portal which is more pink than purple
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>>160173591
brown, for shit
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>>160173824
There wasn't a portal iirc,just footprints/weapon/monkey.You sure you're not confusing it with Shaper's portal (or another mtx)?
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>>160173862
lay off the drugs dude
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>>160173591
red like beyond
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>>160173942
Ah,that one must've come with the supporter pack then,that's why i didn't remember it,my bad.
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Just did my first Shaper run.
This got to be a fucking joke...
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>>160174542
What do you mean
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>>160174542
>>160174579
I guess he got jumped by the mobs he spawns,those fucked me up good too.
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>>160174579

The whole fight.
Like Zana casts bubble to protect me, but the ground i'm supposed to stand on covered with three shaper spheres, which are overlapping. 12k es gone in 1.5 second.
I stand outside i die, i stand inside i die, i fail to dodge one single shaper hit i die, just die, die, die, die.
No idea how people are able to run it deathless.
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>>160174789
Did you go in blind? People are already becoming so experienced with the fight they chain it 10 times a day, it was the same with Atziri, once you're past the surprise factor it's just a matter of practice, and hitting the vortexes on the edge so your safety bubble isn't compromised
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>>160174789
i wasted my first set of fragments too going going in almost blind

it got easier once paid attention to the vortex balls and made sure they didn't go off in the center of the arena
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>>160174654

Mobs are not an issue, it's just you need to protect Zana from them (i guess) or she won't be able to cast that bubble spell to protect you from multiple projectiles spam phase.
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>>160174789
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>>160174915
>>160175023

I watched a few YT clips, but these never had the same situation (or i just don't recall it).
You can't survive the multiple orb spam, you have to stand in the bubble during this phase, right?
Well, what if there is no place to stand, because the whole area under the bubble is covered with multiple vortex spheres?
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>>160175041
>Mobs are not an issue
It might've been my build (ED,not the best equip i guess) or the mobs he spawned (are those random too?I got those fucking dischargers) but i couldn't kill them fast enough.
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>>160175156
>You can't survive the multiple orb spam, you have to stand in the bubble during this phase, right?
pretty much, also the reason why keeping zana "alive" is pretty much a requirement unless you wanna log out for every bullet hole phase (either way you waste a tp in shitcore)
>Well, what if there is no place to stand, because the whole area under the bubble is covered with multiple vortex spheres?
that's why you're preemptively meet head on with the vortex balls so they expand on the edge of the arena
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how do we make poe fun
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>>160175229
bullet hell* i need to stop drinking
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>>160175156
>Well, what if there is no place to stand, because the whole area under the bubble is covered with multiple vortex spheres?

you bait the vortex balls to the edges of the arena and make contact there
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>>160175237
Loli/Shota mtx?
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>>160176384
we're not chink cartoon nerds on this
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>>160176042
>>160175229

I guess i'll have to waste a couple of ex for the maps/fragments before i git gud with Shaper. Maybe i'll need to bust my bv dps as well, i have a feeling that it's too low that fight (54k w/ flasks, w/o charges, 29k unbuffed with ConcEffect). So, another 5-6 ex down the drain (somehow i have a feeling that GGG will nerf bv or es/ci builds in general in 2.5, they don't like when too much people play one class/skill).
Not sure if 1 achievement point and 1% of atlas are worth it.
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>>160177038
how is that low dps
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>Find undervalued unique
>Autoreply:This player is AFK
REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>undervalue unique
>go afk and laugh at all the cucks who message me
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>>160176842
And that's why you're not having fun :^)
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>7 posts in the last hour
kys
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>>160177186
It was a fucking Cospri's Malice for 1.7ex
it would have been mad profit if I got it.
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>>160177038
it's a really mechanical fight like atziri

once you realize when you have to dodge shit and when you have your window to hit him, it becomes as easy as atziri

just keep your cool
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>profit
>in a ded league
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you are bad at this game
kys
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>>160176842
Yes we are
>>>/reddit/
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kys you're self rather

everyones bad in shaper fight when they go in blind for the first time

except poe gods like raiz or ziz and baked
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baked is ded tho
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i wish you were ded

faggot
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baked would be alive if he somehow could have knonw about cospris coc

if it stays the same, baked will be back
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I miss baked too
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we all do senpai, we all do
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>>160178820
What hit you the 2nd time if you were inside the bubble?
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>>160180296
apparently those balls can still hit you if you're close to the edge of the force field

if you watch closely, two balls hit the exact same spot, first gets blocked but second goes through and gives damage
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I FUCKING HATE THIS FUCKING PHOENIX SHIT
Why the fuck 3 of the guardians are so easy and this one is hard as fuck.
At the end of the fight the whole ground is in flames and 4 FUCKING birds cover the whole screen with their fire projectiles
50 chaos down the drain, not even a single map. Fuck this shit
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nice build
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>>160181258
uhhhh

do you use decoy totem? that effectively negates the whole fight and you shouldn't have hard time to dodge all the other shit that barely even hurts

or are you an ignite build doing zero dmg?
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Literally like 1hp left on him
All the time
ALL THE MOTHERFUCKING TIME
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>>160181750
>2016
>doesn't have culling support linked to his shield charge/leap slamp/gayrling blades
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>>160181258
Huh.i've only bothered to do Guardians with 2-3 builds and with every one i find Phoenix the easiest.He doesn't hit very hard and his hard hitting attacks are all telegraphed,just make sure you kill those birds and keep moving.

The one i hate the most is Minotaur,he ends up being either completely boring or annoying..
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>>160181750
lmaoing rn @ how retarded u r
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hmmm

what if we took poe

and removed all the bad stuff

and added some more good stuff
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>>160184208
excuse me
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brilliant idea, smart frogposter
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>2 days to new Skills
>2 weeks to League end
>3 weeks to new League
>Assuming the new channeled (spell) attack is as insane as it seems, we may be seeing Nerfs for a skill 2.5 weeks after it releases

All I hope is that CWDT+Eye of Innocence+7th Sun doesn't get the Nerf bat.
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What do you think the average IQ of this thread is, huh?
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>>160187464
178 without catshitter

62 with catshitter
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>>160184208
>bad stuff
>good stuff
provide examples
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>>160190345
good stuff: HC ladder

bad stuff: everything else
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i decided today to quit poe
i know nobody cares
i'm just sick of having to use poehud to avoid ele reflect
was fun while it lasted
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Make sure to RMT all your shit
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>>160190619
WOW GIT GUD KID HAHA ELE REFLECT IS AWESOME AND HERE TO STAY I LOVE GRINDING GEAR GAMES REFLECT IS SUCH A COOL WELL EXECUTED MECHANIC :} BY THEWAY GUYS ISNT THERE A SALE ON STASH TABS COMING UP???

fuck reflect and fuck ggg shills who defend it
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>>160190940
lol we're not unemployed neckbeard nerds here XD
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If your build can't deal with reflect, then it's your fault. Not GGG or Chris'.
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Is it easy to get respec points in this game?

When guides show their "level 88" passive trees is that what I should be building exactly like them from start to finish?
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>>160191182
who are you quoting?
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>>160191182
>CHURNING THROUGH MOBS LIKE A MADMAN
>LISTENING TO SOME AWESOME MUSIC
>BLOOD IS PUMPING
>MOVESPEED IS INSANE
>fULL OF CHARGES
>ONSLAUGHT
>WEW IM LEAVING A PATH OF DESTRUCTION BEHIND ME
>ABSOLUTELY KILLING IT
>OH FUCK ITS A REFLECT MO-

[RESSURECT IN TOWN]

oh haha sorry! my bad! haha woops i was having a BIT TOO MUCH FUN, thanks for bringing me back down to earth Chris!
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>>160191320
if you do all the optional quests, you get a total of 24 respec points as a reward

if you actually play to lv80+, you will most likely have some regret orbs (aka respec points) to spare

if you follow a guide, i'd recommend to just follow the tree for the most part but also make good use of the 24 respec points, for example picking up extra damage to make it smoother early or those stat nodes that give 30 of dex/str/int

just don't expect to be able to respec huge areas in the tree and you'll be good
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>>160192120
deep down you are a softcore player
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>>160178820
How can life even compete? any build <9k life would have died on the spot...
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>>160192120
>he fell for the hardcuck meme
lmao retard here I am laughing at you from my top tier medium core character
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softcore, hardcore
we're all in this together
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>>160192120
PLAY SCORCHING RAY

NO HIT, NO LIFE LEECH, NO LIFE GAIN ON HIT, BUT REFLECT IMMUNITY BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>160192120
im a softcore babby and even i think reflect is the most anti-fun piece of shit mechanic

are builds weak to reflect even hardcuck viable lol?
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>>160191000
>People STILL complaining about reflect
I miss the good ol'days of reflect auras,nothing better than a reflect beyond spawning suddenly in a mob pack.
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>>160193097
my memeblast elementalist relies on ignites, so i can safely tap ele reflect mobs with fb with no danger at all
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>>160193097
you reroll reflect maps, that's the tax every build at some point has to pay, there are a handful of builds that can run everything but even then it's sometimes just the most logical choice to simply chaos the map

as for lone reflect rares, your build has to be REALLY shit to die to it
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>>160190420
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trying to stay awake waiting for 2.4.2
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>New leagues still haven't started
It's Chris' fault that i'm downloading Tree of Savior.
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>>160194593
Report back if it's good
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When does essence league ends? I can't find anything on google.
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>>160194748
28th of November supposedly.
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>>160194916
>supposedly
So it hasn't been confirmed anywhere? What the fuck is Chris planning?
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>>160195069
It's confirmed in the game files.

New league starts on either the 2nd or the 9th.
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>>160195069
They never announce the end of each league until about a week out.

The date that's on the wiki is from the JSON data for the league itself, but that date could be changed if necessary.
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does VP effectively bypass leech cap for VS since its constantly hitting?
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The only VS I know is Viper Strike, but I don't think that's what you're asking. VP does bypass all leech cap though.
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whats the lowest (IIQ*Pack Size) I should run? 1000%?
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depends on tier DUH
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>>160178820
Lure the balls to the edge of the screen and then whirl back to the force field so they don't plop the degen in your way you re re
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>>160197458
Depends on Atlas completion. If it's over 100, you'll be alright with 1000-1200. Anything less, 1500 is good.
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WAHT IS THE /POEG/ APPROVED ITEM FILTER?
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Those post 3d here
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>>160200282
>Not making your own
It's fast and more fun than current poe desu.
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Don't, I meant DON'T. NO 3D.
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>>160200282
we all use neversink
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>>160201008
>we all
>implying
Don't group us all together pleb
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>>160200282
Neversink's, your own, or that girly barf one from a few threads back.
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>>160201280
even this guy uses neversink

neversink is literally poeg the filter
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>>160201424
>that girly barf

it's literally re-colored neversink's
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i was invited here
when will the good times start to roll
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Anyone tried Path of Diablo? Is it any good?
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how do I get rid of the Item Pointer Direction Thingy on PoEHUD?
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>>160201008
>>160201424
kys
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the kids at school today made fun of me for playing on standard
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So as someone who didn't like Grim Dawn's fake class options (after finishing the game as a Spellbreaker, mind you), will I enjoy what Path of Exile has to offer?
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>>160204505
Yes
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>>160204505
No
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>>160204505
Maybe
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>>160204505
I don't know
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>>160204505
Can you repeat the question?
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>>160205217
>>160205923
>>160206067

This level of memeing and shitpost can only indicate that /poeg/ is dead as fuck, perhaps I shouldn't bother with this game after all
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>>160206394
there's nothing wrong with the game, your only mistake was to come here instead of installing poe and giving it a go
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>>160206394
but you are dead too kiddo
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>>160206394
Just download and play it you big cry baby
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ive been reading some builds and stuff trying to decide on what i want to play next and have been seeing something i dont understand.

Some people show that you need to get gems at varying levels, 1 2 or whatever. Does this mean you dont ever level them up? what is the point of that?
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>>160206394
/poeg/ is always dead offseason and your question doesn't deserve a proper response. Play it or don't. Now flip out of my thread.
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why do so few people use eternal flasks? except for instant (seething/bubbling) recovery, they're better than divines in every regard
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>>160206752
Because people only use instant flasks.
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>>160206752
mirrored eternal flask would be nice skin transfer
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>>160204505
PoE handles a bit differently, and it offers more content.

Just don't go and spend money on anything right now, play your first char to at least lvl 75 or 80 before you do that.
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Act 5 is only four months away where are my gosh darn teasers
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>>160207214
*grabs your pussy*
how's that for teasing huh?
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>>160206752
Because most builds have no need for it. Only large Life builds can use Eternals effectively moreso than just having instants.
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>>160207303
rude
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>>160206394
this is like the 3rd time
/poeg/ is great
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So now that the league is ending is it rude to ask people to give me their currency (because many dont play in standard after the league ends) because i wanna continues playing my build in standard and try finish the Atlas.
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>>160207969
rude
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>>160208085
i dont need opinions from people posting anime shit
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>>160207969
I have nothing but contempt for people asking for handouts, let alone people in dumpster league asking for handouts

kys
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Is Caustic arrow that bad? I don't want to hit a wall of 0 dps doing guardians and shaper like i did with arc.
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>>160208142
rude
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>>160208142
Then why are you on an anime site in the first place?
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>>160208190
PoEcommunity.jepg
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>>160208207
pretty sure it's a cheap AoE clearspeed build, not great for endgame bosses.
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>>160208207
with optimal gear, you should reach 30-40k AoE dps which should be enough end game
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>>160208207
Overnerfed and with ED contagion insane aoe there's no point...
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three dragons using lightning arrow to freeze with a bow

what should i use for single target? everything seems to suck, my aoe is t12+ viable, my single target is fucking t3 garbage
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>>160208315
I have 130k dps with Arc + 3 curses (conductivity, ele weakness, assassin) and it takes 10 min to pass phase 1 of shaper if the room is not a huge vortex fiesta already. How can 30-40k be enough? Maybe lightning spells doing 1-100000 dmg suck compared to a constant 40k.
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>>160208556
why can't you freeze with hatred or even ele cold damage if you're not phys
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>>160208556
4L Blast Rain - WED - PPAD - Conc Effect
assuming you scale ele damage
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>>160208556
Why use a shit helmet when you cab get actual stats from call of the brotherhood
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>>160208762
lol
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Do we, here at /poeg/, support trans people?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48B9wSy4kPg
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>>160209857
by support do you mean getting them mental help?

of course
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>>160209857
ironically
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How do you guys organize your inventory?

Also, I need a quick lesson in what is worth selling to players vs vendoring. I just got past level 70 for the first time, now at 78 and I'm starting to find some pretty good shit.

Also, I can just vendor all my uniques I've gotten to this point basically right? They all seem pretty garbage. Besides rings/amulets I guess. Anything better to do with them? Or Jewels with not good rolls?
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>>160210178
life+resists = value

other than that it takes experience to know whats valuable
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>>160210178
if you uniques roll high or max their can sell sometimes. yeah otherwise experience, knowing the meta or even the non meta and what items they would use that are very expensive
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>/poeg/ told me liftingnerdbro is a terribad lose who knows nothing about the game
>follow his BV guide for my first league in this game
>it carried me all the way to shaper

Eat shit.
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>>160210583
post your /deaths
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>>160210583
>BV
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>>160210583
I didn't even know BV was playable this league. How did LNB manage to make it good?
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should i bother keeping any gold quality items that im not actually going to be using? is there any use for them?

I know you can vendor a set of armor+jewelry for some kind of orb but im only level 42ish on Cruel difficulty idk if i need to bother or not
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>>160210759
>I didn't even know BV was playable this league. How did LNB manage to make it good?
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>>160210896
he's right, it's one of the worst skills this patch
basically nobody is using it
same with pathfinder
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>>160210583
>his only viable build is BV
pottery
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>>160210759
>I didn't even know BV was playable this league. How did LNB manage to make it good?
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>>160210838
Rares, unidentified, ilvl 60 - 75 (hold alt to view).
Armour, 2*weapon or 2h weapon, belt, jewelry all together = 2 chaos total.

If you have limited stash space stockpile amulets and rings and belts as they will be your bottlenecks, and get the armour weapon pieces later to sell.
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>>160210759
>>I didn't even know BV was playable this league. How did LNB manage to make it good?
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Would you take responsibility with Nessa in the event of an unplanned pregnancy?
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>>160211502
so at my level theres no reason to keep anything?
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>>160210759
>>>I didn't even know BV was playable this league. How did LNB manage to make it good?
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Oro flicker strike or terminus est flicker strike?

What's a super tanky build i can finance with ~1ex that's not so slow I want to kill myself?
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>>160210759
>>>>I didn't even know BV was playable this league. How did LNB manage to make it good?
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>>160211613
Look up "vendor recipes" on the PoE wiki.

You can get chance or alch orbs with the same recipe, probably not worth the time / effort.

Just level up fast my friend and spend your currency to buy gear, not craft it.
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>>160210759
>>>>>I didn't even know BV was playable this league. How did LNB manage to make it good?
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>>160211896
I've been looking at vendors for armor\weaps with lots of sockets\links and then upgrading them with essences, is that kind of the right idea?
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>>160210759
>>>>>>>I didn't even know BV was playable this league. How did LNB manage to make it good?
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>>160210759
Good job triggering the dogposter retard
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>>160211604
I don't know, taking responsibility didn't seem to work out too well for that guy in the background.
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>>160211604
The bramble effect in the life orb and the swirl in the mana orb look awesome, why would they take those out?
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>>160213083
The engine and server can't handle the effects.
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guys i found my first chaos orb on the ledge on cruel difficulty!!
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>>160213687
now find 999 more
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>>160213887
then what happens?
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>>160213687
oh shit, nice find. I'll go farm there now
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>>160213941
can maybe roll a nice build or make your current build better
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>>160213941
league resets and you do it again
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>>160209857
I support them in that I don't give an actual fuck about them, which is I guess better than actively hating them

You couldn't pay me to care about all this LGBT nonsense.
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Which build is your next league starter? I'm thinking of trying out Hegemony's Leap Sweeper myself.
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I've came up with a new meta that will break the game
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>>160218142
>Which build is your next league starter?
I guess i'll start with something simple,maybe an Elementalist pizzablaster since i've been playing since open beta and NEVER played FB.
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>>160218142
I'm gonna go with scorching ray, and if it's too shit I'll just switch to ED.

I also want to try out a dual scourge blade flurry necro thing.
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>>160219483
I just made that build and I intend on this being my last character for the league.

It's janky but the damage is definitely crazy.
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>sextant update
>sextants are actually good to use and fun
>makes maps interesting
>they never ever fucking drop

I've gotten 1 white sextant in the last 50 t7-t10 maps I've done, and no yellow sextant.
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>>160221562
sextants fucking suck
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>>160221643
Sextants are cool senpai
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>>160218360
The correct word would be ``come", young lady, something you should be familiar with
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>>160221643
I don't know whether or not they are a "cool" addition to the game, but as far as there value goes they are so worth it. The ones that add additional monsters are crazy, they make maps have like double the monsters and you can stack them. It just doesn't mean much because you run 3 maps with it then it's another 20 maps before you see another sextant, and nobody is selling them because they are so rare that everybody just uses them.
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>>160223136
Save them all up and blow like 7 at once on a Shaped Courtyard for maximum crazy.
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>Steel Ring are BiS for any phys build unless it's a Voidheart

>require level 80 and cost 20c

fucking why
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So I lost all my EHC currency AGAIN after grinding away trying to get them items. I have no will or reason to continue playing this league. next one is in a month.
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>being a hardcuck
lmaoing@ur life
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>Capes

Top kek
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What's Eye of Chayula worth on HCE? Just had one drop.

Poe.trade isn't really giving me any clear numbers, nobody online is selling an uncorrupted one.

How big is the difference between corrupted and uncorrupted on it, generally?
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>>160226069
Next one is like 2.5 - 3 weeks away friendo.
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>>160226995
>How big is the difference between corrupted and uncorrupted on it, generally?

maybe a couple c difference, usually the people trying to corrupt them are so rich that they are just (potentially) throwing it away since it can brick, and I don't know of many people actively trying to buy them and corrupt them. Plus the all attributes is actually pretty useful so if you make the implicit something garbage like .2% of cold damage leeched as life then it's pretty undesirable.

It's worth like 20-25c on EHC, I just bought one.
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>>160224491
because they are fucking rare, I've had more exalt drops than I've had steel rings drop, and thats with constant mapping for a month.
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>cape mtx
>not adding an item slot for capes to increase build variety and customization

fuck you, ggg
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>"Trade is still a joke but hey, cloth physics guys!"- GGG
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>try Facebreaker Warchief
>wear Abyssus
>run lab
>traps deal a billiion damage and Izaro one-shots

Oh god why didn't I just go 2H Warchief
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>>160228448
Essence league has convinced me that they don't have the balls to create serious new content that would give the balance team work.

I mean seriously, look at essences, they are a joke crafting currency literally no one asked for that all does very little.
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>>160228850
>that would give the balance team work

looking at the current state of the game, they have their hands full already
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Guys, does this mean we'll get a physx engine implemented soon? I've been pestering the head jew for almost 3 years to add that
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Did the community seriously ask for fucking cloaks? You can barely see your MTX with all th shit going on, and people care about a stupid backpiece? I expected nothing and got disappointed.

This means the next challenge league will have stupid cloak as the reward.
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>>160218360
Translation...?
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>>160229638
>This means the next challenge league will have stupid cloak as the reward.

Not necessarily. They want people to pay for them so giving them away so soon probably wouldn't be a great idea.
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>>160229638
>This means the next challenge league will have stupid cloak as the reward.
challenge league rewards are typically different from supporter pack mtxs

though it'll be interesting to see how it fits with something like the ice golem mtx
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reminder that scion and ppl who play scion are hardcore feminazis that believe all men should die
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im not about to support patriarchy in a game where all male classes are disgusting
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>>160229865
>browsing 4chan not knowing nip
shiggy
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>>160230625
もう一度私に返信しないでください
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>>160230738
私のスレッドのままに
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wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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why don't you all just shutup
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はははははははははははははははははははははははははははははははははははははははははははは
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reminder GGG adds more improvement and polish to their game every 3 months than Blizzard does every 3 years for D3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB6595M5Mes
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>>160232112
Blizzard made HotS, Overwatch and Hearthstone and supports more than a single shitty game with a shitty audience.
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>>160232154
>pc games for the normies who graduating from mobile games

no thanks
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>>160232112
thats because diablo 3 was already polished on release, unlike path which looked and played like a fucking chinese bootleg.
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>>160232154
It doesn't matter what their excuses are, their business attention has shifted away from a 20-year long franchise and if at that point they can't be bothered to give a shit about old school fans anymore, neither should you
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>>160229865
>I don't mind ... but ... Is ... that supposed to be fun?
She answered this when someone wanna to cum on her belly
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>>160232375
did you learn moon runes just so you could read lewd 2d games
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>cumming on her belly
>not her face or tits or feet or pits
fucking pleb cunts
>>
our guy is theorycrafting scorching pee builds...
twitch
.tv/ziggydlive
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>>160232243
>diablo 3 polished on release
>>
if it burns when you pee you should probably go see a doctor
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>Blizzard kills D3 by adding a dungeon called the Labyrinth
poetry
>>
it's "pottery" you retard
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Guys I just made it to endgame for the first time. How far into maps until I get the endgame lab? I found 2 trails so far but I've done like 30 maps since then and haven't seen another.

Also, can I get a rundown of all the endgame goals and how to accomplish them?
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>>160233064
seems like your first step is finding out what end game is.
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>>160233064
>How far into maps until I get the endgame lab?
it's all random, you could find all the trials in t1 maps

generally people wait until level 85-90 for uber lab, because izaro is quite difficult on most builds without tons of mitigation or life

>Also, can I get a rundown of all the endgame goals and how to accomplish them?
open your atlas and try to get to the center :^)
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>>160233064
Hi, welcome to PoE's endgame. Did you follow an extremely efficient, and well-crafted unique skill path? Is all of your gear well-rolled and is your build cohesive as a whole but not abusive of some random GGG synergy or micro-mechanic? If this describes you, please enjoy your stay in the middle map tiers.
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>>160233224
That's what I'm doing now, That gets me to shaper right? What about atziri? What is uber atziri? I have a bunch of those vaal fragments.
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>>160234017
optional boss content
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>>160232243
>thats because diablo 3 was already polished on release
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>>160234017
slap 4 in the map machine for atziri
atziri drops uber atziri fragments rarely
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>>160232243
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>>160234459
Okay cool thank you. About what level should I aim for before I attempt that?
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>>160234487
Diablo 3 release day was great. So much Blizzfag tears.
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>>160235187
>his build uses elreon rings
top kek
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>>160235032
>that panicked look at the camera
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pwn some noobs
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Chaos recipe is so dumb with essences.
If they make it into the core game (and they will because they take tab space) that needs to be fixed. And I don't see how.

Ziz says he makes ~100c raw currency a day running dried lake with a vaal sparker. (where a day means 8 hours).

I made 30c in 2 hours now just picking up normal belts and amulets and running a tier 1-5 every once in a while.
And I wasn't even in a hurry.

So dumb. It's next to no effort, you just do it while trading/waiting and it's the most efficient chaos in the game aside from flipping.

Post your currency guys
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>>160236194
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>>160236194
>tfw you didn't drop 120 dollars on stash tabs for chaos recipe tabs
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Is there a single reason to not take iron reflexes as duelist
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>>160151192
I dunno why you're showing off support tier damage.
>>160152843
Well if he wants to freeze he can just equip Three dragons with voltaxic. That's what I do.
Just for shattering procupines to be completely honest. I swap out to a rare helmet otherwise.
Oh and just so you know. It doesn't affect chaos shocking. If that's assumed.
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>>160236482
kys retard
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>>160234587
for atziri be comfortable in late yellow maps and learn the fight before you attempt it

for uber atziri be comfortable in red maps
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>>160236443
I use 2, they hover around half full. One for <75 ilvl items and one for the normal 75+ items.
I have 5 tabs for just dumping items while mapping though. Fill with normal accessories from behind. Right now I got 1 full.

Also only collect for UIDC. Take two stone rings and do the 3 for 1 uid rare. Sometimes when you get good rings/ammy you ID them, Just drop them with the junk and piece togeather when emptying the dump tabs.
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>>160236194
chaos recipe is a waste of time.
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>>160236560
RETARD
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you're a waste of time

kys
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>>160236695
Well I made 30 extra currency with it in 2 hours.
So it's not a complete waste.
I agree it's not the most enjoyable thing to do though.
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>>160236778
>>160236695
Of course sales can be nice but they're irregular.
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Got a bad feeling about this map, 70% boss AoE :(
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>>160238397
>worry about AoE instead of -max resist
It's just Mervil though and not even the just phase 1 version.
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When the fuck are they gonna let us log in straight to the HO instead of the in town where it lags like crazy?
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>this sextant doesn't reach dunes

REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>160238727
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If I want to chance a voll's devotion from agate amulets, do I have to do them inside a zana map with anarchy mod?
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>>160239009
>CI cuck with only 7.5k ES
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>>160238520
I don't know if that applied to the pillars of cold she spawns in 2nd phase but they sure seem huge
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>>160238397
Does the increased AoE increase damage too? I've always wondered this.
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>>160235187
Rarity: Rare
Loath Circle
Diamond Ring
--------
Requirements:
Level: 40
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Item Level: 59
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27% increased Global Critical Strike Chance
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+30 to Intelligence
6% increased Attack Speed
-8 to Mana Cost of Skills
Can have multiple Crafted Mods
+23 to maximum Energy Shield
15% increased maximum Energy Shield
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>>160239815
Elreon rings are a meme
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capes

they're adding capes
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it's just mtx you fucking retard

not actual slots for a new base item type
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>>160240907
you don't know that you're not the boss??
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kys retard
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my mumma taught me that if i have nothing nice to say i shouldn't say anything at all
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What's the best way to get alts? Rolling the specific flask you need is cancer.
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>>160243786
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Cloak_of_Tawm%27r_Isley
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if i roll twinned on a warbands map, does that clone the boss or do I get a chance at two different ones?
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>>160244408
clones the boss
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>>160244569
thanks
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r8 this fun idea
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>>160245118
makes melee even worse, congratulations
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>>160245118
>becomes the main attack for its supported gems
what does this mean
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How can people bear to do double chaos or regal recipe when it means doing unID'd jewelry and belts?
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>>160245246
it would link to 2 active skills, so instead of choosing one of those on your hotbar, it would just be this support on your hotbar.

>>160245207
>doesnt fix melee.png
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>>160245371
Because 99.9% of unid rares you pick up are going to be garbage anyway.
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>>160245118
seems fun
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>>160247090
fun doesn't real
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>>160245118
how would this behave if linked with multistrike?
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Man I fucking LOVE RNG challenges where I have to spam 500 times the same 30c map in hope of getting the right boss!
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>>160243786
Just buy it for a few chaos. You'll spend more in alts trying to roll it.
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>>160247121
>fun isn't real
ftfy
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>>160247175
this is what you get for waiting until the end of the league to complete the hardest challenges
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>>160247212
No, this is what I get for playing solo 99.9% of the time, it seems that such challenges are a big middle finger to people who are unwilling to enter a rotation of Overgrown Ruins in order to complete that one stupidly RNG challenge
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>>160247269
they use account seeds to make it impossible for you to complete an entire challenge on your own

you're supposed to get help from other players

use global 820
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are the skeleton necromancer equipments hard to grind?

It looks fun enough to make me install this game
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>>160247323
if by "skeleton necromancer" you mean a generic zombies+spectres summoner, gear is extremely cheap, however it's a really shitty build to level with so you're kinda forced to buy regular caster gear and level as that if you don't want a painfully slow start
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http://us.battle.net/forums/en/d3/topic/20751505172
will blizzard listen to its fanbase
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>>160239176
pls respond.
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>>160247387
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOK5uJDrzu0&t=178s

this build, is there a more proper or serious build for tons of skeletons?

well I figure that it isn't suitable for starter
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>>160247175
so after realizing you really need to join a rota, do you still insist going solo?
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>>160247468
yes
you can't chance league specific uniques outside of maps with said league mod
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>>160247506
Summon Skeletons is not a viable skill gem for summoners in PoE. If that's what you're trying to achieve, turn back now.
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>>160247618
ok thanks

I will pick some normal summoner guide then
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None on EHC atm

Anyone want to sell a cospris? Have 15ex
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>>160248148
>playing poe
>playing poe at the end of a league
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I will never forgive Blizzard for what they did to the Diablo franchise
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>>160248182

I am going to play till the last day and I am dayum excited for the new league
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>>160248229
based
>>
I only play temp hc leagues but occasionally I like to fuck about in standard with gear/currency I have sent there.

Should I sell now to get a meme vinktar or keep when they (potentially) become worth in standard?

leaning towards keep atm
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keep it it maybe become legacy in 2.5
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>>160248431
u're mum is legacy
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>>160248403
This image
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>>160248481
what does that even mean
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>>160247154
Proabably perform both skills alternately 3 times very fast and do no damage
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>>160248403
Wouldn't people in standard be after the original vinktar?
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>>160248848
I just meant Phys to lightning conversion vinktar
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It's already Wednesday evening in NZ

If they don't drop 2.4.2 this afternoon I'm going to lose my shit
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Does GGG specifically mention when an update will change the skill tree? Do we have any incoming changes?
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>>160249350
>I'm going to lose my shit
and do what exactly? cry about it on reddit? stomp your foot and call for mommy? you have no power, moron
>>
im not going to do anything????

im just going to lose my shit calm down faggot

also no (You) for you idiot
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>>160249428
spend years shitposting and ruin their reputation
>>
no (You) for you either b*tch!!
>>
What build is most fun to play based on variety of skills and maybe gameplay that isn't run>spam 1 attack a few times>rinse repeat
>>
stop talking to me
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>>160249550
hybrid melee/summoner
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Oh please no. GGG have had enough performance issues already. They're absolute shit at making things run even by the low standard most games set and this shit isn't anything anyone will notice.

I'm gonna poke in the game files if there's no way to disable it.
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>rain doesn't impact performance
>cloth physics won't impact performance

Oh boy, here we go.
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I'm questioning my gear choices.
I'm using a 5L lightning coil and am gonna upgrade to a 6L now.
OR
I can drop it, get a good rare life chest and run snakebites instead of my 126 ele res crafted life gloves.
It'd free up a gem slot on my Blastrain ST which I think would be a massive boost because I can add added chaos and that's a 25% damage increase at added chaos level 19.

Build is voltaxic LA.
Clears all content quite OK but I'm struggling a little on guardians.
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>>160249393
They usually do because permanent league players freak out when it happens.

We are desperately over due for a skill tree shakeup.
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>>160250774
5L your blast rain.
4L your LA.
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>>160250935
Good idea. Ignore 1 link.
My Voltaxic is 6L of course. It's of course the first item I bought 6L.
>>
can you ever really recover from depression? does it physically alter your brain in irreversible ways? i know it can get better when you get wiser and learn what helps you to cope but does it ever really go away?
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>>160251038
My uncle has depression.
He claims it passed. It's hard to believe I know but he claims it. And he's quite reliable.

And it to my knowledge doesn't change the brain that much. Depends on a case by case basis I think.
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>>160251118
>has
Had.
Should also mention he laughs a lot and seems very happy.
His advice is to continue on like normal despite the struggle.
>>
So it turns out that LMP Freezing Pulse has ~100% damage effectiveness.

That's sort of neat.
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>>160251038
>does it physically alter your brain in irreversible ways?
no but alcohol and drugs will
and you're likely to abuse those when you're depressed
>>
Is "commandment of blades" enchant (or any other gloves enchant) worth sacrificing 16% spell power mod on fingerless silk gloves?

On paper the enchant scales with my spell power from the skill tree etc and does 24k damage when char is hit, but do not notice any effect in boss fights or anywhere else.
I feel like i dun goofed by deleting spell power mod.
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>>160253915
>spell power
spell damage
obv
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>>160250774
>but I'm struggling a little on guardians
>LA

you mean you're getting your ass handed to you by Minotaur (and probably Chimera)
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>>160254168
It just takes a while. I don't see why minotaur would be a major problem. He's just a little chaos resistant.
Hydra is the worst because poison immune and because you have to move frequently but it's fine.
I equip point blank.
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wow Dark Forest Rigwald bleed hurts a lot
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qmGPMC8Ylw
How are life builds even supposed to compete?
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>>160255068
By actually doing any damage.

Burning Arrow gives you nice tooltip dps but hitting stuff offscreen with it is, uhh, ambitious.
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>>160255243
It doesn't matter if each of his arrows deals 5 million damage if he gets offscreened for 10k+ damage in less than half a second.
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>>160255068

>alt+f4core
>ranger build
>T15 map with shitton of mods

Yea, what could go wrong...
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>>160255339
There's a single damage mod though?
And what do you mean by "ranger" build? He's wearing Kaom and got 10k life, what more do you want? a shield build would have got destroyed there too
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>>160255243
Yeah he really couldn't have done much about that other than having his rumi's up (assuming he has some spell block).
>>160255339
He's a streamer. This gets views.
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>finally can afford a white es helmet with +40% bv damage enchant
>not a single seller is online

well, maybe it's not so bad after all...
>>
New build
(guess the build)
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>>160256019
EQ CoC Discharge
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>>160255068
>10k life
>still get killed in 0.3s
>a single 30% damage mod

How can life even compete ?
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>>160257006
ES would have died there too if he didn't attack more than once every three seconds.
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>>160257006
It's free to join the hybrid master race
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>>160257306
The fuck are you on about. He was at full life.
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>>160257363
he seems to imply that by speccing into VP and shooting arrows 100 times a second, hege could have simply facetanked it like a gool old blade vortex character
>>
The "increased effect of your curses" nodes plus vulnerability (the skill gem) would make enemies even weaker to physical damage? I'm just wondering if the dps would increase
>>
kys retard
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>>160259276
RETARD
>>
that's not how it works, dickhead
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>>160250140
Don't worry they'll nerf capes after they realize their game can't handle it
>>
nerf this
>>
tfw there's no 1.09 classic d2 private server
>>
Someone help me impress I_NO shes giving out starforges for no reason but she only will give it to you if you're like a shit stain newb :(
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>>160262681
just be yourself then
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>It's absolute bullshit (and anyone who says otherwise probably owns nothing on standard), but I'm past caring. The game has gone to shit in the past few leagues; they've given up on even the slightest appearance of giving a crap about permanent leagues in favor of the endless powercreep-nerfbat churn of the "challenge" leagues. Enjoy your cloaks and your gamble boxes.

CRY MOAR YOU FUCKING PERM LEAGUE SHITTERS
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>>160263514
the shitcrow is right. this game is so boring and shitty these days. there's absolutely zero innovation coming out of GGG. it's like they've forgotten how to make video games
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i usually tolerate you, catshitter

but today i draw the line

i hope you get constipated for a week you dumb shit
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at least my're brane isn't constipated
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Why is summons skeletons useless?

It feels like a waste to not use the +6 skellies from the passive tree + what you get with midnight bargain.
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>>160263869
so stop playing and shut the fuck up
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Can we make a petition to change the name of the game to Path of More Multipliers?
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>>160265331
They don't really do anything.
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>>160261813
>server

just downgrade your game and play singleplayer
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>just finished my first run
>look up what the best builds are
>everything revolves around dashing through enemies and blowing them all up instantly with broken builds
How do you stay motivated to play this when your option are being massively inefficient or completely overpowered. PoE seems massively unbalanced.
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>>160265331
They walk around like crippled retards and don't target properly, so they just aren't effective at killing things unless you literally fill your screen with 50+ of the fuckers
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The only use I've had for skeletons is using a summon skeleton totem to shit them out constantly and crap up the boss ai. I haven't done this in like three leagues though.
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>>160265331
SRS exists.
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>>160228489
>>160250309
>introduce ragdoll physics into your game
>make it a microtransaction
wow...
just
wow
GGG has some astonishing talent in terms of finding ways to milk their audience for every last shekel.
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>>160267946
replaced with summon skeleton archers when
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>>160268595
>D3 was ruined by RMAH
>PoE is ruined by shitty cash shop
I guess all we have is the unsung hero of ARPGs that didnt try to jew everyone to death Torchlight
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>>160268624
skeleton archers would be amazing, and will probably exist in 3.0.
I will say this, if you take MI they can be amusing against heavy hitters.
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>>160268695
>>PoE is ruined by shitty cash shop
forgot your cat picture
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>>160267854
>How do you stay motivated to play this
if you dont enjoy whichever meta is being currently forced by GGG, then you dont
poe is lol of arpgs
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>>160268781
I dont know what that means but PoE does have a pretty dodgy cash shop

I mean tabs? Really?
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>>160268919
this game is really p2w
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>>160268919
how dare the developer try and recoup costs
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>>160268848
That seems a bit sad and frustrating to be honest.
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>>160268848
if you think a "meta" is being forced on you and if you define the "meta" as whatever you see streamers play, then you're a self-fulfilling prophecy of failure because how could you ever compete with them?
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>>160268781
>its the "cosmetics mtx dont impact you" episode
if not simplu due to dev' time spent, then due to them being very "in your face" obnoxious.
I bet you also like ads in your mobile apps
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>>160268990
Its not P2W at all. Its dodgy.

>>160269000
They dont have to charge for tabs, or any of the gameplay features they lock behind the shop.
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>trying to make infernal blow great again
>decide to use shield charge at some point for movement and style
>realize its just better to invest in shield charge and one shot packs

nice game
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>>160268919
yes, the fact that timmy can purchase 150 extra stash tabs truly RUINS the core of the game for me, uninstalling right now

oh wait, it doesn't affect me in the slightest what others choose to spend their money on, retard
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>>160269149
It's pay to win. They'd make enough money off of supporter packs and microtransactions that didn't have anything to do with stash space but they refuse to change it.
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What lvl am I suppose to do my lab run at?

I just tried at 37ish and did pretty well until I got 1 shotted with max on all res's in my 3rd boss encounter.
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>>160269220
>They'd make enough money off of supporter packs and microtransactions
Source: your ass
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>>160269254
I do both cruel and normal when I reach act1 merc usually. Unless the build allows me to do it earlier. I'd do it as you reach cruel
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>>160269043
>"meta" as whatever you see streamers play
you are an idiot and i shouldnt even be replying to your liquid diarhea outburst of opinion
>how could you ever compete with them
compete in what? number of hours per day spent playing poe? number of twitch or youtube views? number of (you)s gotten from /poeg/? upvoted posts?
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>>160269304
So you're saying that GGG has to keep this game pay to win to stay in business?
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>>160269409
>you are an idiot
>proceeds to reply with absolutely nothing of worth
irony

if you think GGG is forcing a "meta", you're the only real idiot here, doubling as a bitter faggot who probably can't reach end game on his own with the crutch of a "meta" build

git. gud.
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>>160269439
generally businesses need revenue streams to be profitable
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>>160269439
I'm saying you have absolutely zero source for your claims so trying to pass your speculations as facts only serves to make you look like a blabbering moron
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>>160247178
unfortunately poe.trade doesn't have the flask i need. Need a saturated eternal mana flask of ignite or shock immunity.
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>>160269496
i gave you one free (you) already, here is another:
(you)
now fuck off, lumpen
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>>160269685
GGG is being extremely greedy, KID
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>>160269496
so you're saying real melee is viable then
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>>160269710
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH THE REASON I CAN'T REACH END GAME IS BECAUSE I'M NOT PLAYING A MUHTA BUILD LIKE GGG IS FORCING ME TO THAT'S UNFAIR WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>160269887
Thats not what hes saying at all

He was originally replying to someone who was trying to understand how having a game so unbalanced is supposed to be fun, to which he said its fun if you enjoy doing the best meta builds. Which is true.

If you dont like doing FotM builds then PoE isnt for you.
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>>160269839
"Real melee" will always intrinsically be the inferior choice in arpgs for obvious reasons, even if we agree that build archetype is non-viable, this only eliminates a minority of builds, hardly enough to delimit a supposedly forced meta
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>>160270054
not the guy you are talking to, but you are implying that you can only have fun playing meta builds, which isn't true.
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>>160270149
It is, unless you think being massively underpowered all the time is somehow fun.
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>>160270054
>If you dont like doing FotM builds then PoE isnt for you.
That's the most retarded statement so far, if you're going to defend someone, try not to look stupider that he is in the first place? Who are you to decide who PoE is for or not? If you're some kind of uncreative retard who can't play anything but copypasted streamer builds and feel the game isn't fun the moment you have to think about your own build, then PoE is not for YOU. Stop projecting your own personal case and inadequacies upon others.
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>>160270093
>"Real melee" will always intrinsically be the inferior choice in arpgs for obvious reasons
It may be slightly weaker in most ARPGs but in PoE its literally worthless. Big difference.
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>>160270287
>trying to save face that hard
I get it, you like doing FotM builds but dont want to admit it. But we all know thats exactly what PoE is about, its a lot of possible choices and only 2 or 3 viable ones. Everyone just plays meta builds because PoE is too imbalanced for non meta ones to work, doesnt help GGG strangles the game so they are not viable as well.
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>>160270354
Not the argument we're having, fine melee is garbage, sure. Remove all the single target "real melee" skills in PoE. Do you have a forced meta now? Or do you have a game where players have plenty of choices to succeed, same as it is now? Non-real-melee is a pretty fucking vague and all-encompassing label, is that how you define the meta?
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>>160269593
ah yes it's perfectly fine for GGG to throw their morals and promises out the window for the sake of profit
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>>160269439
you get like 10 stash tabs for free if you include the 19 mules you can create
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>>160270535
>Remove all the single target "real melee" skills in PoE.
Thats not what I meant at all and you know it. If you're just going to be purposely obtuse and stupid there is no point in you posting at all.
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>>160270468
FotM builds are FotM because players are sheep and gravitate towards streamer builds. It's not uncommon to see builds being popularized and suddenly becoming FotM despite the skill gems and gear used having remained unchanged for several patches, effectively meaning such a build was possible for a long time, people just didn't see what was hidden in plain sight. In other words, while GGG definitely does influence a meta by shifting things around in every league, players decide what the meta is, not the other way around.

Look at the new channeling skills, everyone is already saying they're not going to be viable because "you can't leech with them!" but you can bet the moment some streamer makes a build about it, the same exact skill gem suddenly goes from garbage to "wow broken imba GGG please nerf" tier. A good remind players as a whole are fucking clueless and even BV was inexplicably considered to be a poor skill not so long ago.
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>>160270980
>FotM builds are FotM because players are sheep
Stopped reading.

FotM are FotM because they are objectively better than everything else.

Wont even bother to read anything else you write.
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>>160270645
I don't even care who I'm responding at at this point, but given the chance to defend the statement of a supposedly forced meta, try to be more precise that "real melee is not viable!" because that tells us absolutely nothing of what meta is being forced other than "Stop trying to Heavy Strike your way to t16s"
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>>160265331
because they have about the same attack speed as zombies but less damage, their AI is literally retarded, they're slow as fuck, and they have the least health out of all minions (even less than SRS)
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>>160271134
There is nothing to defend, there is a forced meta. You're just being purposely ignorant again.

No more replies for you shitposter.
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>>160271075
>FotM are FotM because they are objectively better than everything else.
Congratulations on doing absolutey nothing to defy my expectations of you being another reddit braindead idiot, now fuck off back to your BV PF build you copypasted from a streamer
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>>160271314
>my special snowflake build is good i swear it!
Not him but kill yourself.
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>>160271616
lick your lips and tell me how that streamer ass tastes like
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>>160271818
>Its popular so its bad!
>>>/v/

I can promise whatever shitty builds you made up are worse than the most popular ones. I dont even give a shit about streamers but the fact is people know what the best builds are and spoiler alert; your build is shit in comparison.

Grow the fuck up.
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Remember when poe was about making epin wombo combo builds that broke the game?

Remember when poe was fun?
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>>160271818
>your livelihood depends on being better than others
>surprised they run the best builds
You're just pretending to be retarded right?

>>160272009
I remember when D3 and PoE were fighting daily and PoE lost because people didnt like wombo builds dominating the game.
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>>160272001
Nice fallacy you retard.
>It's not uncommon to see builds being popularized and suddenly becoming FotM despite the skill gems and gear used having remained unchanged for several patches, effectively meaning such a build was possible for a long time, people just didn't see what was hidden in plain sight.
Why are you so afraid to contest this? Did you start playing the game 3 months ago? Sorry you're too stupid to see what's good until a streamer points it out to you. Maybe try to use your brain for once in a while instead of assuming you only have one choice, you D3 reject.
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>>160272203
>I cant argue against that so its a fallacy
No you're just stupid anon. But at least you know it now. Your special snowflake build is shit, streamers use the best builds because they have to. Grow up and get over it.
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Guardian for max righteous fire survivability with scorching ray synergy?

I've noticed most righteous fire builds right now are limited to exploiting some shitty mechanic, but I would think scorching ray would be great scaling
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>>160272203
>Maybe try to use your brain for once in a while instead of assuming you only have one choice
Actually its normally 3 top choices. Please just leave and stop ruining /poeg/.
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>>160272160
>>your livelihood depends on being better than others
Wrong, it depends on them being entertainers. Even a shitter like projectpt can build a fanbase upon playing intentionally shitty builds.

>>surprised they run the best builds
Anything can be good when you have near unlimited currency. Is that what you're crying about? Some builds reach higher power than others given enough investment? No wonder you feel inadequate when you can't break out of t5s without buying gear :(
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>>160272412
>playing intentionally shitty builds.
Thats a different thing entirely and you know it. Or you dont. Maybe you are just retarded.

>Anything can be good when you have near unlimited currency
Pfthahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahahahaha

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>160271616
>>160271314
Who the flip are you quoting?
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>>160272293
>It's not a streamer build therefore it's a special snowflake build
Wow, in a game that encourages you to creatively make your own build, NOT copying others is now being a special snowflake? Interesting logic, you braindead retard. If you never played anything but a copypasted build, why did you even bother stopping playing D3? You know you're nothing but a glorified trained monkey if you can only repeat the same tasks you've seen someone else do? Monkey see monkey do! That's what you are, retard. And that's all you'll ever be.
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>>160272412
>Anything can be good when you have near unlimited currency.
WOW

This is what shitpsoters on /poeg/ actually believe.
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>>160272412
>Anything can be good when you have near unlimited currency
Aaand he went full retard

Abandon thread
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>>160269161
haha nice meme text /v/ro
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>>160272620
>making a claim that someone didnt make to save face when you have no argument
And oldie but im sorry I didnt fall for you shitty attempt at bait just then. No more replies for you, I can see you're just desperate to save face at this point.
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>>160272412
>Anything can be good when you have near unlimited currency.
I dont think you actually realize how stupid you were until you wrote that.
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>>160272763
>No more replies for you
You've been replying to me for an hour, fucking idiot. This isn't reddit, you don't get internet cool points for saying you're taking the high road when you're actually not. Neck yourself, retard
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>poe is p2w
>the meta is shit

there, solved all of your arguments
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>>160272620
>Wow, in a game that encourages you to creatively make your own build
That must be why they balanced it so the game isnt just dash + AoE spam, oh, wait...
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>>160272627
>>160272642
>>160272858
Farming (You)s has never been easier, retards, too bad even attempting to prove me wrong would only lead to you being smashed even further

Try to play a meta build like CI BV and see how well that works out for you on a 10ex budget
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>>160272958
PoE isnt P2W
But the meta is very limiting, I dont think anyone would claim its shit. Its just unbalanced.

The real solution here is to play D3 if you want melee and PoE if you want ranged.
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>>160273080
>PoE isnt P2W

>need trade tabs to trade
>have to spend money to get them
>somehow not p2w

idiot
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>>160273062
>I was pretending to be retarded!
No anon, you just are.

Everyone ignore this shitposter now, or else we might break him mentally.
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>>160272990
Wow, what a precise definition of the forced meta! We went from "non-true-heavy-strike-melee is meta" to "dash + AoE spam is meta" now that's REAL indication of the constrained only 5 viable builds meta GGG is forcing upon players. How can anyone stand for this? Why can't my no-mobility single-target Viper Strike build succeed???
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Honest question

Do you guys prefer killing these massive groups of monsters really fast. Or would you prefer the game slowed down? All other things (like drops) equalized

I personally would like it slowed down a bit, and I think it would be better on hardware and their costs anywah
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>>160273080
if you want melee you should play dark souls
if you want ranged you should play skyrim
but then whats the point of poe?
ah right i forgot, flipping, scamming, manipulating markets, being a general douchebag and an admiral jew. What, you arent dong any of that? then you are wasting your time here pally
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>>160273193
On the bright side at least he realized how stupid he is. Maybe tomorrow he wont try to hard to shit up /poeg/
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>>160273316
>Or would you prefer the game slowed down? All other things (like drops) equalized
Doesn't fit arpgs. They're about hacking and slashing, plowing through hordes of monsters effortlessly, this gives players a greater sense of power than strategically defeating packs of 5 monsters at a time.

>I personally would like it slowed down a bit, and I think it would be better on hardware and their costs anywah
You wouldn't be able to balance around it.
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>>160273316
PoEs massive mob numbers and fast speed was refreshing, but I think I still prefer smaller more tactical fights. I would rather a handful of rooms where each fight required me to use multiple skills intelligently, rather than a hundred rooms where clearing them as fast as possible was the goal.
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>>160273193
>Nuh huh I'm not stupid, you are!
>Everyone ignore this shitposter now
This isn't reddit, retard. You can't downvote people you disagree with here. Stop replying to me to say you're going to stop replying to me, you worthless loser.
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>>160273316
Just put a cap on move speed and add a cooldown on movement skills, adjust bosses which require spamming movement skills.

ARPGs are about killing stuff fast not being the flash, GGG allowing faster movement and faster killing created the problem with vaal skills and the sanic meta.
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>>160273356
I doubt it, people like him have no life other than shitting up generals for games they dont like.

>>160273316
Slower, like D2.

Actually a game that really nails it is Tree of Savior. Its a shame its a generic korean grindin MMO, but the classes and abilities is absolutely fucking top notch, and the party fights come down to everyone doing their job perfectly or you're all fucked.
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>poe isn't p2w because you can play SSF
>the meta isn't forced because you don't have to progress further than t8 maps
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>>160273515
>wouldn't be possible to balance around
Yes it would, it's how the game used to be

>5 packs strategically
It doesn't need to be slowed down that much. I'd just like maps to take like twice the amount of time instead of this tedious ~5 minute meta
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>>160273515
>>160273762
>Doesn't fit arpgs.
>arpgs are about going fast and feeling empowered
how about d1, d2, torchlights, titan quest and grim dawn? neither of those have you teleporting from mob pack to mobpack and wiping it with one-two button presses. Its just shit game design, and it wasnt even intended to become so hence why the engine is so shit at handling all these massive mobfights
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>>160272367
Sorry, we don't think about builds here. We prefer to wait for streamers to spoonfeed us with the BEST way to play PoE.
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>>160273893
>how about d1, d2, torchlights, titan quest and grim dawn?
Or Magicka, that game is super slow and all about using the right spells at the right time.

I mean its not a traditional ARPG, but god damn would it be fun if it had a proper class system and itemization.
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>>160273904
>thinking about builds
>exercising in futility
>when streamers just get private emails from [email protected] with "check out this build i "theorycrafted" for the next patch" a day before update
lmaoing at your life
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>last three vorici missions where leave a guard/all guards alive
I can't wait for the update
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>>160274068
yea magicka nailed the perfect "tempo" for me
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>>160273829
>Yes it would, it's how the game used to be
The game also used to be less complex. Mechanics like leech which works great against packs and not so much against single target unless you invest in it would have to be drastically changed. Melee would still be at a disadvantage, while ranged nukes everything with Conc Effect.

Lower density, higher difficulty monsters would ironically pigeonhole players into defenses that deal well with seldom, huge hits (having 15k ES) rather than frequent, smaller hits (armour/evasion/block/dodge).

>>160273893
Out of those, I didn't play any but D2 but it was very much about teleporting from pack to pack wiping them out in an instant. They even gave every class a Teleport skill in the form of a runeword, for Christ's sake.
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>>160274326
>lacks imagination to the point where the current meta would carry into a new system without nerfs
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>>160274326
d2 didnt even have aoe skills except for sorc and newer lod classes, wtf are you talking about
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>>160274326
>seldom, huge hits
its like you think the only way to get rid of clear speed meta is to make every mob pack a single monster with both collective hp and dmg of that pack.

No, you just scatter the packs and hire a decent AI programmer, so mobs dont stand on top of each other in dozens just waiting to be aoed by some whirling faggot

also do something about max move speed and movement skills in general
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>>160274786
necro literally had a reskinned nova for poison
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>worrying about PoEs future
PoE2 when

But seriously, is there any chance of a PoE 2?
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>>160275462
not really
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>>160275293
yea and it was shit
okay lets say 20% of build were aoe based, still miles away from poe, it was mostly based around single target killing
because d2 had actual somewhat creative enemy placement and variety
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im tired of arguing with stupid and children
i should just stop visiting this website
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>>160275673
Don't you mean weebsite?
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>>160275462
They wouldn't be putting out content every 3 months and reworking the client if there were going to be a sequel.
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>>160275673
>im tired of arguing with stupid and children
Well then you should stop talking to yourself.
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>>160275172
>No, you just scatter the packs and hire a decent AI programmer, so mobs dont stand on top of each other in dozens just waiting to be aoed by some whirling faggot
This would do nothing to address the single target vs AoE issue, nor the melee vs ranged issue, quite the contrary. It would artificially slow down the game, for some builds a lot more than others, not make it better.

The fact is that trash in PoE isn't supposed to represent a threat, unless you introduce a perfect stars are aligned scenario with multiple damage mods and a couple rares with auras. They exist as momentum building fodder for the actually hard content.

You're never going to stop builds that excel at clearing trash at doing so, no matter how smart and strategical you imagine monsters could be. A Vaal Sparker is still going to clear Dried lake in a minute, while other builds have to painfully hop from scattered pack to the next.
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damn i need to re-invent my angle on this game
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>>160275550
>because d2 had actual somewhat creative enemy placement and variety
D2 was also so boring people would bot from level 80 to 99. It never was single target-centric or you never played the game. Every class had its own AoE nuke build. The less AoE heavy class was maybe Barb and they used Whirlwind for clearspeed, hardly a skill that leaves room for strategical play, same old spin2win regardless of the situation.
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Is Bow Ranger good? I just started playing

Or should I drop ranger?
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>>160277595
Bow Ranger is pretty good but it's outclassed by Melee Spellcaster Ranger right now
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I wanna try something with elementalist but having a hard time finding a good build, I want something that can do high maps without GG gear, but I do have some currency to put into it. Was thinking maybe whispering ice
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>>160277887
Whispering Ice is anything but a cheap build considering the difficulty of getting high INT on every gear slot. You won't have a shield either, so your ES will be lower, and if your damage can't make up for it, you're in for a shitshow.

A budget build would be Flameblast.
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>>160277887
elementalist you say? also want to trivialize all content except for the atziris and shaper? with a budget?

go CI flameblast
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>>160277986
I've thought about flameblast but it looks kinda slow and clunky with the cast time
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>>160277773
>>160277773
Thanks

Is Shadow any good?
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>>160278119
Bow Shadow is pretty good but it's outclassed by Melee Spellcaster Shadow right now

He's also a fuccboi, so if you're into that, by all means
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>>160278189
Fugg

Bow ranger is fun so far at lvl 15

Shame it sucks
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>>160272293
>streamers use the best builds because they have to

That's false though.
ProjectPT uses shit builds and despite that he's able to achieve more than 99% of this thread are capable of achieving.
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>>160278227
You're just bad at the game, kid
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>>160277986
>>160277985
You guys know of any up to date flameblast build I could have a look at? I might give it a shot.
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>>160278470
Go in the Witch sub
Go in the Witch builds list thread
Ctrl+F "Elementalist" and "Flameblast"

not going to do the job for you
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>>160273062
>try to play a meta build like CI BV and see how well that works out for you on a 10ex budget

I do that. It's even below 10ex, around 5-6 and I only haven't killed Shaper yet.
But that's because i haven't really tried and i'm bad @ dodging things (that's why i've re-speced from TS deadeye).
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>>160278470
Totem inquisitor
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Remember when Talisman's about to hit and everyone and their moms wanted to make a Trap Contagion AIDS build shitting their pants when datamine went up and it does god awful damage? Then we have 5 new generals up at a time getting ready for the patch to hit?

Why's the game so dead now? There's literally no excitement even when new leagues are about to launch.
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>tfw you get your ass kicked by t13 bosses
>high garden
>beacon
the fuck is happening? do map mods apply to bosses that dont have an arena or something?
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>>160279176
>Remember when Talisman
Nope, only time I took a break from the game because the league gimmick was so lackluster I wasn't going to bother with some filler trash before they released Ascendancy
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>>160279284
Map mods apply to bosses all the time, you got up to t13 without understanding that?
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>>160279429
well, I always assumed that mods that say "monsters do X" only apply to normal monsters since there also are mods that say "boss does x more dmg/aspd" etc.
I'm fully aware that shit like Elemental Weakness, Less Regeneration and stuff also applied in the boss arena..
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>>160279802
Bosses are monsters, monsters deal more damage mods apply to them, boss mods can stack on top

And what kind of shit build struggles with High Gardens boss? possibly the easiest t13 boss with Gorge considering in the same tier you have:

Plaza
Scriptorium
Lair
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQsBLiB90Hk
Just like my chinese cartoons
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>>160279970
EQ Jugg, got Atziris Disfavour
already killed corrupted bosses for Scriptorium and Lair
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>>160279176
>Why's the game so dead now? There's literally no excitement even when new leagues are about to launch.

Because GGG ran out of new things to introduce.
What else they could conjure up? Act V? Pls. IV was shit enough.
What else?
More "collect four fragments of shit, kill a boss" so called "content"? More shitty copy-pasta skills or useless vendor-tier uniques?
The game passed the peak of its popularity and now is in a slow decline. ARPG can only last this long, it's not WoW.
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>>160280850
Dating sim expansion where you can date female NPCs like Nessa

Would gladly pay a $250 supporter pack for that
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>>160280931
still sane, exile?
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>>160279970

High Garden boss can be a real bitch if the mods are wrong. Which is most likely true if he's trying to get 1% with a corrupted map.

I remember my first time with this boss, i couldn't kill her, because maps mods were so fucking insane. Also i had graphic effects switched on minimum, so that creeping fire thing was pretty much invisible until it was too close.
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>>160144672
I care about grammar. Stop it.
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>>160280931
>you can date female NPCs like Nessa

With RNG odds, heavily rigged towards
>her leaving you and taking half of your shit from stash and all hideout decorations
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>>160281261
the map had something like 100+IIQ*2x packsize, so mods were probably hardcore as fuck
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>>160162229
Because it's more efficient to spec hard into POE than to fart around speccing into loads of shit are sucking at all of it.
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For most games, /vg/ tends to be better than reddit. This is usually explained because /vg/ is populated by more hardcore gamers than reddit, which tends to lean on the casual side. However in the case of PoE, /poeg/ is undeniably worse than r/pathofexile in pretty much every regard, including game knowledge, creativity, originality in builds, ladder placement, racing, and so on. How do you explain this?
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>>160282408
Catposter
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>>160282408
I blame catposter
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>>160178820
>popping an orb inside the bubble
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>>160282408
catposter
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>>160282408
definitely catposter
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literally who?
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PISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs
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i want to PET___ catposter!
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"This Friday, we'll be celebrating the announcement of our December 2.5.0 update and new challenge league with the release of two new supporter packs which both include Cloaks and other exclusive effects."

F I V E D A Y S
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If anyone still left playing EHC wants some flaks and a 920es regalia pm me
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>>160247506
The more serious one is 6 linking spell totem>skellies>faster casting>minion damage>phys damage>multistrike, taking the explosive minions passive node and dual totem node, getting tanky as fuck, running multiple multiple skelly jewels and running around izaro for hours at a time. If you can't handle that just give up now.
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>>160283903
Congrats on lev-
>BV CI PF
Never mind, faggot.
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>>160280931
Only if there's futa anime art to go with it.
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Do people play with random supports, or is it just in clans? Tempted to make one.
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>>160282408
Allow me to explain.

In the beginning stages of PoE (2012) word of a new arpg spread among the neet types and with the failure of D3, PoE's popularity sky rocketed attracting even more neets. /poeg/ had a decent chunk of these hardcore neet types including weeaboos and so even moot wanted to come and check the game out. PoE felt experimental at first but interest in the game fell after the beyond league and our neet/weeaboo posters declined in numbers and the large percentage of twitch shitters that kripp attracted stayed here. These twitchfags only attracted more memesters and casuals like redditors which is the /poeg/ we see today.
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>>160283903
Free?
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>>160284674
But how do you get *more* casual than reddit?
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>>160283903
>People unironically give FREE multi shit items at the end of league (Both SC and HC leagues)
why?
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>>160284683
yes.
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>>160282408
>>160284674
the fact that poe is a casual game now doesn't help either
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>>160284829
Reddit has 10 times our population. Could just be confirmation bias or everyone here put in too many hours to keep the autism grind rolling
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>>160283903
Trolled. This guy didn't message me back.
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>>160285237
report him and get his ass banned
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>>160158510
This
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ded
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>missing one essence for challenge
>oh ill just buy it
>50 chaos
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>>160279176
>>160280850

It's not dead you fucks. It's the most popular it's been ever, just it's the end of a league. This is shit you can look up yourselves you pessimistic sons of bitches. I bet you pieces of trash wake up depressed and want to spread it with everyone.
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>>160282408
Literally catposter

Reduces the quality of these threads by 3/4 by himself.
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>>160287615
literally my thoughts
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>>160279176
Talisman was a shitty league

We learned our lesson. The game population is more stable and less spiky now.
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I exchanged orbs with someone by the name of TheMostWealthy (added him and it's both his account name and character name) and he used the text from the whisper button on poe.trade, but changed the numbers, so it looked like he simply copied and pasted, to rip me off.
the ratio I was offering was chromes:chaos 10.3:1, but the ratio he altered the numbers to was 11.3:1.
I try to maintain the thinnest margins on poe.trade for whatever currency's I have enough of to merch, and didn't check his numbers before agreeing to the trade (the formatting from poe.trade made them look legit) so he ended up gouging me for a price worse than my buy rate. I'm buying at 10.3 and selling at 11.
tl;dr He made it look like he copied and pasted from poe.trade using the ratio I offered, but he changed the numbers to a worse rate than anyone on poe.trade was offering.
Actual trade amount: (me) 612 chroms for 54 chaos (him)
Closest offered rate: (me) 618 chroms for 60 chaos (him)
A little under 6 chaos lost is a fairly big deal when I only make 6.4%, it's 1000 chromes worth of profit.
To all the merchants out there, be sure to check your numbers!
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>>160288391
Are we doing that thing where we copy posts from reddit again?
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of course that the general is going to be half dead when they haven't even announced the new league
essentially the new league will be equivalent to talisman last year and when they release A5 in """"""""""""""""""early"""""""""""" 2017 it's gonna be a big expansion which will probably bring in a lot of retards.
I'd rather have a dead general than a general full of retard new players asking stupid questions
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>>160287615
>just it's the end of a league

So, the game has a short spike of popularity (if you can even call it like that) for like 2-3 weeks max, when the league starts and then it goes straight to shit for the rest of 2.5 months.
Is it "the most popular"? Oh wow.
Or you think it's more popular now because GGG decided to merge Russian and Taiwan garena realms into global, to hide that their "popular game" is losing players?
Look on twitch, where is your "popular" game, or where it was in October, barely a month after 2.4 hit. Even at the start of essence league it was hardly in the top ten.
"The most popular" my ass. PoE is in decline and you have to be fucking delusional to deny that.
GGG can't produce any more real content, it's almost over.
What can we expect from 2.5?
Minor master improvements, few more useless skills and uniques?
WOW, IT'S SO EXITING!1!!

>>160287882
>totally not a samefag
>>
Anyone played that scourge based bladefall necro build? It looks like a lot of fun.
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>>160289842
how is it """"fun"""""
also self cast bladefall is pretty bad in my opinion, even worse in terms of clearspeed than blade vortex so just go blade vortex, necro has duration too which benefits it
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>>160289598
Nah senpai, Atlas has vastly improved league lifespan, and the leagues are generally considered alive for at least a month and a half anyway. There are figures literally available on Steam that show PoE being relatively stable and definitely not 'in decline'.

Besides all that, PoE IS the most popular ARPG. It's the last bastion of a dying genre, which makes it ideally suited to feed on nostalgia and autistic neckbeard bux for years to come, since it is essentially the only option that has a community they can sperg all over.

Face it brah, Path of Exile is here to stay.
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>>160289946
I dunno I've been playing totems so I guess using a movement skill and neat synergies seems more entertaining than what I currently do
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>>160289598

>"The most popular" my ass. PoE is in decline and you have to be fucking delusional to deny that.
The slope percentage in the decline of players over time since the spike of the latest league is higher than it has been in the past. This isn't up for discussion you fucktard, this is fact. You can talk as much shit as you like, but this is just simply the case - the game is alive and in better health than it ever has been.

>>160289598
I didn't start a discussion about features, you want to bitch about the lack of them then go on their feedback forum. I was just challenging the misinformation about it's popularity and the "game is dead" rhetoric, that keeps being made by idiots like you.

>>160290117
yeeee
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>>160289598
didn't read a single word of your cry novel btw
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>>160290221
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>>160289598
>GGG can't produce any more real content, it's almost over.
They're too busy making shitty new uniques that noone will ever use ;^)
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how do shaped map drops work? I'm trying to get a shaped atoll for the sextant mods on it. Do I have to do ~t13 maps that are within the same chain as atoll, or can it drop from any ~t13 map?
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>>160291647
what boku no pico episode is this
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>>160292431
I THINK it's just more likely to get ones close to the chain. But I definitely get random ass shaped maps all the time nowhere near where I am on the atlas.
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What do these melee faggots bitching about their attacks being ranged even fucking want? Do they intend to go toe-to-toe with every single enemy? They'd need impossibly high movement speed to make that playable.
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>>160291647
Modern anime is so stupid.
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>>160290174
>The slope percentage in the decline of players over time since the spike of the latest league is higher than it has been in the past.

The essence league is over you dickhead. Who is going to do 126/126 all over again in a new league, if he knows that it's going to last 2-3 weeks max, unless it's a major expansion/content update.
And that atlas autism was the only reason that Essence league lasted a little while longer.

>I didn't start a discussion about features
If there's no features there's no game. It's as simple as that.

>didn't read a single word
Of course you didn't and that is why you're wrong in every single word. You don't even know what you're talking about. But you've started to call me names, so i'd like to return the favor, you fuckface.
I didn't even said it was dead, you made that up in your delusional brain, i said it's in decline. And this is undeniable. Because you can't create more of the same, call it "new" and expect people to believe in it.

>>160290117
>Besides all that, PoE IS the most popular ARPG. It's the last bastion of a dying genre, which makes it ideally suited to feed on nostalgia and autistic neckbeard bux for years to come

Torchlight, D2, D3, Grim Dark there are plenty of such bastions. PoE has had it's moment of glory, but now it's over. it's a fading star.
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>>160293058
They want namelocking removed

Actually, they have no fucking clue what they want, because all that does is turn the previously namelocked melee skills into yet more 'Melee' skills.
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>>160293058
They should just put Conc Effect on their EQs, reaves, and lacerates so they'll be melee :^)

"Melee" fixed, boys
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>>160292431
Since maps above t10 drop practically never, the most efficient way to farm is spamming t7, t8 and t9 maps.
These are fast and easy, and you get a red map every now and then ;^)
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>>160293123
Torchlight, D2, and Grim Dawn are all vastly less popular than PoE even during the end-of-league ghosttown. D3 has just fellated a shotgun, as well, which is going to drive all the bitter blizzdrones straight to PoE, further cementing it's hold.

You need to accept that PoE is the biggest game in the genre by a country mile. Nobody is going to dethrone it, no matter how much you or anybody else wants.

If you don't believe me, take a look:
http://steamcharts.com/app/200710 (Torchlight II)
http://steamcharts.com/app/219990 (Grim Dawn)
http://steamcharts.com/app/238960 (Path of Exile)

I'll admit, looking at the stats I'm a little surprised Grim Dawn has that many average concurrent players, but it's still got nothing on PoE.
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>>160293084
>>>/reddit/
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>>160293687
That's not considering people who use the GoG client for Grim Dawn or the standalone client for PoE, mind.

I suspect that the latter represents a much larger figure than the former, but I really have no way of knowing.
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>its DEAD stop playing it
lomao
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>>160293829
Yeah, people like you who like moderns anime belong there, that's right.
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>>160294510
there's at least two legitimately good shows this season
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>>160294446
fucking STOP
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>>160293123
>The essence league is over you dickhead. Who is going to do 126/126 all over again in a new league, if he knows that it's going to last 2-3 weeks max, unless it's a major expansion/content update.

>i said it's in decline. And this is undeniable. Because you can't create more of the same, call it "new" and expect people to believe in it.

PLAYER RETENTION AND POPULATION IS BETTER THAN IT'S EVER BEEN OMG HOW ARE YOU SO FUCKING STUPID
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>>160294617
Which ones?

I stopped keeping track because I was tired of the constant deluge of garbage.
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>>160296171
flip flappers
choose one between keijo, jojo, and drifters
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>>160297140
>drifters
>written and illustrated by Kouta Hirano

Neat, thanks anon
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>>160297140
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>All these standard fags freaking the fuck out over SEA alt arts being implemented
this is hilarious
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>>160294510
Where the fuck do you think you are? Do you hide the banners so you don't get triggered by "modern anime"?
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1767835

>within the next 2 days
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new map you fags
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