/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

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Why not include the upcoming tournament links in OP?

Rules/Main Docs: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1il8e8uo9bgtNBU0udCetOHesN4mkkDCVB_z6zdMgReY

Email: [email protected]

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>>160094514
I will post bote until toady adds botes to the game and we can have real fishing

more like at-last-a-new-image-for-the-op edition

>>160094609
yeah, that makes sense, its good to add them

>>160094687
>not reel fishing
its like you do it to piss me off

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>>160094687

>>160095102
amazing
a real bote

im really fucking new to this game and confused as all shit about everything

>>160095308
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Quickstart_guide

>>160095398
thanks

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>>160095308
Embrace the plump

>>160095441
wut is that supposed to be helmet shroms or somethign

>>160095483
If you don't harvest your plump helms in time they become sentient and murder your dwarves.

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What the fuck.

This world's three main races are crocodiles, bats and toads. There are also some sloths and olms. Human's only option is an outsider.


...I might have broken the generation.

>>160095757
I'd really hope in future some animal men could become major civs in some worlds. Would be cool to see wars between humans and toad men.

>>160095308
the way I learned is I watched an interesting LP from a guy I like and retroactively learned all the shit myself after having watched some hours of that.
It's a pretty inefficient way, but I got pretty bored of reading wiki pages and tutorial videos quick.

>>160095757
typical result of duped creature raws

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>>160095441

>>160095871
>The Great Pepe War

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Reposting from old bread so people can finish voting


>A.Run with Verliko to the horrible forest from where you came from, hoping that its not an ambush, since you are not sure if you can trust him at all, after him not stopping your friends from dying
>B.Stay, and let go who used to be your friend, and who stopped you from seeing your pals die, and face a Woman Wizard who may want to kill you

For now, we only have a vote, and it chooses A, going back with Verliko to the haunted forest from which you came out before

>>160096757
B.

>>160096757
B.

press b to pay respects

>>160096757
B

Does the game use region's raw or global raw for character creation in Adventurer mode?

>>160098330
The raws are the same
What you are posibly refering to is genetic code, which is more of a regional thing

>>160098795
I mean, in the raws there are set possibilities for variations in species (like eyes, hair or skin color)

>>160099001
yes, there are

>>160096757
B, he let our friends die

>>160095582
SHIOT

So I built a small temporary fortress while my miners dug out the final deeper one, but after I moved, my dwarves wont bring the food stocks. I deleted the old stocks and built new one, but they wont haul them over and keep running half way across the map to go drink some booze. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

>>160099946
make a stockpile

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>>160099581
>>160098795
So how do I increase the pool for this? Do I just mess around with raws (region or global?) or is there more to this.

First for fuck the hobbit movies

>>160100140
pic's name pleases me
Just look genetic guides on the forums, and you'll find everything you want
dont know what you mean by the pool

>>160100392
agree

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Jesus, Senshi really is the perfect definition of a dwarf's stupid but brilliant behaviour
Now Im pretty sure that the mangaka played DF

>>160100961

How popular is df in non english speaking countries?

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>>160101613
judging from Likot Udendeb, it has a rather livid russian following.

it also has wikis in french and japanese, but I don't think those get updated very often.

I'm swedish, but I don't know any other swedes who play.

>>160101910
i dont think anyone personaly knows anyone else who plays

>>160101613
somebody post him the pic of Toady making a selfie with koreans

>>160101910
>>160101613
Haven't heard too much about DF in these Slavic parts Poland I mean. Might be just unlucky, though

>>160102502
Why are so many Poles shitposters? Are you a shitposter?

>>160101984

My cousin introduced me to df years ago. Idk if he still plays. Maybe he's posting on this very general.

Aussie btw.

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>>160102113
Actually, several of them were nips. Supposedly one of them was making a yandere simulator or something, and another some sleazy danmaku with underage girls.

>>160102502

All I know about Poland is from watching a cool 60's movie about the teutonic wars. Also I think my hot teacher from a few years ago was polish, but I cant think of anything else.

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Where should I embark niggas.
Anything but the Sisniter Forest for now.

>>160102558
>so many pole shitposter
Wait, what.
>>160103008
Yeah this country is not exactly too popular.
>>160102673
>yandere simulator
wait do you mean
>>160103904
In the freezing north.

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>>160104068
But there is no freezing north!

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>>160103904
funny fact: your world has no goblins, and the world is likely too young to have visitors and shit. you're bound to have a boring time playing.

generate a new, slightly larger world, and let history run for at least 125 years.

>>160103904
e mbark on t sfhh

>>160104161
I'm fine with how the world is though.

>>160104680
What did he mean by this?

>>160104140
Embark on... the coldest place in the world?

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>>160105206

>>160100961
Where is the best place to read the adventures of this dwarf and company?

>>160102660
i think its something to do with living in the great paki isles

>>160103904
Terrifying ocean bordered by something nice

>be outsider
>get some people so bogeymen won't appear and things will be easier
>arrive at city because thirsty and hungry
>the dwarf starts to attack goblin bowman
>can't stop them from killing each other
does this count as pacifism

I'll be playing my first ever game of dwarf fortress when I've finished reading the tutorial

>>160107702
Immediately dig down and never stop, friend. That way lies salvation.

So uhh, the dorfs just elected a vampire in a walled off cell as mayor

silly dorfs, well, guess no more mercenaries/performers for a while

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>She has a very good feel for social relationships
>She personally finds friendship burdensome
>She dreams of raising a family

>>160107980
Free him

>>160108205
Niet

>>160107928
i have a fleeting suspicion that this will result in my demise

>>160108462
Baller ass adamantine is downward

>>160108462
Maybe. Or maybe it will lead to glorious fiery purification and the ushering of a new host of magnificence on your world.

>>160107980
Kill it or release it before the liaison comes. If not, no trade agreement for the year.

>>160106815
kissmanga

>>160108614
fucking kek - ive still got to finish the tutorial

>>160108901
I believe in you anon. You're not the kind of guy/girl/xender who needs a tutorial. Go out there and bring glory to the world. Strike the earth and dig deep!

>>160109025
>xender
I smiled

>>160109025
FUCKIT IM FUCKING DOING IT

I HAVE SOME BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE FROM RIMWORLD SO I CAN FUMBLE ANONG

>try bragging about killing an emu (because i need food)
>so many rumors about ravens attacking me or my companions
w h a t

>>160108680
Can I just lock off the area and have my marksdwarves execute her from behind the wall if i fortify it?

>>160109993
>I RECENTLY LASHED A KEA IN HALF

>>160108462
Digging only down is a bad idea as your dwarf will have no way to get back and starve or dehydrate. What did you think was going to be here?

>>160110608
glorious fiery purification and the ushering of a new host of magnificence on my world?

What happens to old forts when Today releases an update?

>>160110941
You mean if old saves are compatible with new versions?
Major versions: usually not.
Minor versions: usually they are.
In either case, check the release notes and always back up your saves.

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Can I actually create a greenhouse using glass?
Or will it at least prevent snow from covering my greens?

>>160110941
Erased by angels

>>160110000
No, you can't order them to attack a citizen of your fort.

>>160111282
Actually, you can create a greenhouse out of whatever material you want. A tile that has once been exposed to sunlight will count as being exposed to sunlight forever, no matter what you build over it.

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Looks like I have some questions to answer from last thread.

>160088642
Yeah, we talked about that. This has really been more of a learning experience for me as this is the first time I've ever used a trip and I now onlyh use it for official updates like this one and when I'm answering a question so don't worry.

>160088642
As several said after you, the "winner" of each match as in the last man standing will be magically healed for their next bout. Never used DFhack so I can't say that I'll be using it for the tourney at all.

Update Time

Things are going a bit slower today possibly because I haven't posted in this thread yet. We are still at 10 combatants but, I think 2 more are on their way so we are getting close.

I would like to get the opinion of /dfg/ on something. The arenas shown in the docs and in the rules pic are not really representative of how the arenas currently look. I am a vanilla-fag to the core and have never ever use a tile set or a graphic set. However, I am willing to try and install one if that is the will of the community. If it was up to me everything would stay vanilla including the gifs I will be uploading and the combat logs. I will let you guys decide on this one. I'd set up a strawpoll but, I'm going to work in a couple of minutes.

As always keep submitting combatants and if anyone posts artwork here now or during the tourney there is now an art tab on the main doc. ( I really need to set up an external site because that doc doesn't do 9dots work justice)

Rules/Main doc: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1il8e8uo9bgtNBU0udCetOHesN4mkkDCVB_z6zdMgReY

Email: [email protected]

totally butchered those quoted posts so

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>>160090897

>>160106815
Those who said Senshi is the best waifu last thread were right, if ur waifu no Senshi ur waifu a shit.

http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Dungeon-Meshi

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>>160109993
>headshot a kobold with novice archer
okay I know that my two companions distracted him but jesus that took only 3 arrows. are kobolds really that stupid?

>>160112848
I would prefer vanilla, or another nongraphical tileset. Graphical sets are controversial at best, but even among graphical set users the representations of creatures will be different enough between them that the user of one may not recognize a creature from another, so creature graphics are only going to be a palliative for a minority of users. However in nongraphical tilesets, a brown h is a hedgehog man in every single one of them.

If you want to appeal to as many people as possible, CLA might be a good middle ground, as most of its creature graphics are both ASCII-like and graphically representational at the same time.

>>160110683

I like you, anon. Delve for the spiral, even if you miss, you'll end up amongst the magma :)

>>160112848
a couple of questions tournament-kun

Im the anon who made the image, and I felt like I could add some math in the picture so people can calculate how much points do they have availbale based on the size of creatures told on the wiki
That way they dont actually have to ask you for points, which makes everything quicker
If you already have something like that, pls tell so I can update the image

second. Are the combats gonna be streamed , or will you upload the combats in gifs after the match
I would like some real life betting while I see the matches ( a little slowed down, vanilla arena combat is simply too quick to apreciate finely), that would be so cool

that would be it for now

What do I do with a legendary bone animal trap worth a dozen supply caravans in trade value?

Catch a fuckin rat?
Seems a shame to even sell unless I order in a shitload of steel stuff next time the dwarven caravan rolls by... guess that answers my own question

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>>160113434
This is annoying as fuck. How do I fix inventory?

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>>160113418
shit, he really is based as fuck
Its like he was directly taken from a DF save
Can we adopt it as our general-tan If such a thing does ever exist

>>160114487
Unless we could somehow come up with an entirely new kind of tan for ourselves, I'm 100% down with japanese cooking dwarf.

Is toady actually retarded? Why waste space on the craftsdwarf screen like that? Pearl shit? Really?! The fucking thing that isn't even in the game? Goddamit this guy is stupid

>>160114001
Thanks for the advice I will consider it. Though as I said Vanilla is preferable to me as well.

>>160114203
It would be nice to add the math however, there are things I take into consideration when distributing points for certain creatures especially those with a natural advantage (multiple arms, NOPAIN, flight, poison, etc.)

As for streaming I did think about it but, I've never streamed before and I don't know how well that would look. Plus I don't have any proper streaming software, well, at least one that makes df look good.

>>160114356
Let us know how trading that artifact goes.

>>160114819
>>160114487
He really embodies the spirit of DF and DF dwarves

>Manages to do stuff nobody thinks a normal being could do
>has an innate knowledge of the world and their living beings
>Has no sense of danger
>OP as fuck when most needed, but quite the uncautious type normally
>His axe progresively breaks as the manga goes on
>>adamantine

And he has a lot of OC lying in the internet, because the manga is quite famous
So... consider it

At least put the manga in the OP pasta

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someone posted a wonderful mace last thread and I had to draw it.

>>160115227
>streaming
You can do it if you want anon, We trust in you

And yeah if it goes on, please slow down the video as it goes by, and pause from time to time to read their status/combat logs

if you want to give it a shot try

>https://obsproject.com/

Its free, good, easy, and famous as fuck, so you'll have tutorials in the internet

>>160114203
Did I read betting? Interesting...

>>160115373
Menshi will make /dfg/ great again

>>160112848
My preferred tilesets are square 12x12 ASCII, but really any ASCII tileset is fine.

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>>160115418
Timbukdrew, you're my hero.

Pic related is the mace, for anyone who doesn't want to look for it in the last thread.

>>160099991
Nah I somehow had a standing order to ignore food hauling. Thank god, thought my shit was bugged.

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>>160115418
>tfw macelove actually //is// what makes timbukdrew autistic

>>160114487
Better than super depressing PC-tan and all his dead console friends.

>>160116046
>>160114203
I wouldn't want them streamed personally. I'm not likely to be available to sit and watch a stream whenever it happens, and considering the international population of this general that's likely to be true for a lot of us. Watching the complete gifs/webms and combat reports in the thread when I can is much more appealing to me. And it saves us watching anon fuck with UI and set up fights and all the prep and pauses and other boring stuff between the bouts.

Besides, isn't the point of the tournament to generate content for /dfg/? If all of us fuck off to a streaming site to watch it live, it won't very well accomplish that.

>>160117573
I'm with this guy

>>160117767
So am I, except I read "wouldn't want them steamed personally" and was like "Well, Senshi..."

>>160117573
>>160117767
That's what I was thinking too.

>>160116046
As for betting between bouts it would still be possible with the gifs(though I don't encourage it) because, there will be plenty of time between the bouts to set that up as I will be typing commentary for each one.

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I was scrolling around my fort, looking for things that need doing when I saw a tile of mist on top of the lake. I looked to see what happened and found this in the obsidianized volcano caldera. No combat reports or anything. I can't figure out how it happened; it's ~4 tiles horizontally from the nearest place it could have fallen from, but it would have to have gone through dozens of z-levels of my fort including a tavern full of giant black bears and giant cougars to get to that point. It more likely was on a z level where it would have to have moved ~15 tiles horizontally through open space to land in that spot. It's pretty damn annoying, because I'm all set up to source my water from the caldera, and now I'm going to have to figure out a way to get a pump there to filter the goddamn wombat blood out before I can breach.

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>>160118623

"The secret to preparing minced termite brain roast, is to use a lot of termites, have a very sharp knife, and a lot of patience."

>>160109826
going from df to rimworld was a bitch for me so i dropped that game super quick. I cant imagine what it would be like going from rimworld to df, maybe its an upgrade (it is in my book)

>>160119024
Crossing 15 horizontal tiles while falling from your mountain is easy, hell, it would be hard to NOT move further, it may have just jumped to the side to dodge something, pshew, BLAT!

>>160119067
Fuck, I don't think adventure mode cooking reactions are going to be fixed any time soon. T.T

>try get through river
>use alt moving
>fall into the river instead
>drown
why

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>>160119668
Shouldve moved to slope instead of open space. When you fall into a river there is a chance you can get stunned and thatll kill even a competent swimmer.

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>>160119603
You're right, of course. I haven't seen a lot of things go ballistic over the side, which is surprising considering the amount of cliffside combat that's gone on. This kingsnake is the only other creature to have gotten distance after going over the side after our former mayor (RIP) kicked it. The only dwarf on the lakebed fell straight down after botching a climb check.
Still, I wish I had seen what prompted its flight. Since it didn't generate a combat report it probably wasn't a dodge. I'm going to pretend it's fortean weather. Green tree frogs are the most plentiful vermin on the lake despite the fact that the only trees on the embark are 3 saguaro cacti on the southeastern tip, so I just headcanon that it rains frogs here. And today it rained a wombat.

>>160120507
If it didn't generate a report when it landed why should it generate one if it dodged something?

>>160112848
keep it vanilla. even if most would like a tileset, deciding what tileset it will be would be a hastle.
also, is there no possibility to have the combatants be healed in hospital, so they will have scars and possible loss of limbs in next battle. I would think the easiest way would be to create a fort with hospital full of doctors and spawning them there to be healed after the battles.
I understand if that would be too much work, but it would add more flavor to the battles and combatants I think. Having the victor full of scars, having lost some limbs and perhaps an eye would be cool as heck.

>>160121490
I mean with the combat logs you should be able to tell what got scarred and what got lost. Though by the end of it the champion would probably resemble deadpool or frankenstein after being sewed up/magically put back together so many times.

>>160115227
dont stream it. as a previous anon said, it would likely have a lot of boring parts, be a hastle and take the users away from the general.

>>160121309
AFAIK dodging always generates a combat report, even when dodging inanimate objects. Hitting the ground only seems to generate a report if the creature is already in combat, kind of like Urist stands up/Urist is no longer stunned/Urist vomits, or conversation snippets.

>>160122068
to me the cumulative nature of the wounds and the end result of the final victor are the reasons I suggested the hospital method. Then if this catches on, we will have plenty of war scarred veterans and might even one day hold a veteran tournament, with old men with a crutch in one hand and a battle axe in other fight it out.

>>160118702
are there trustworthy sites for betting we could use? It might be interesting, though there would need to be a way to determine you're not gaming the results to make big bucks (read: the cents us poorfags on a taiwanese sweatshop forum can spare) on the bettings.

>>160122854
When bets were suggested, I imagined they might be posts of something, like Senshi image posts, or rare Toadies. Even OC.

I can't speak for the general but I'm unwilling to bet actual money for something like this, as fun as it may be.

>>160122854
Literally why I just said I dont encourage it. I dont think betting should be done unlss at your own discretion. This tourney probably wouldbt work well with it anyway since there is so much stuff that needs to be smootged our. Maybe in a future one but, again at your own discretion. As for knowing whether im gaming or not rhere is no way I can prove it to you unless you were standing right over my shoulder.

>>160123341
as good as any place to bet actual money, if we can make a system that works. there are plenty of variables and luck involved to make it interesting, a good mix of knowledge and pure luck,
though making it work would be hard, and having enough people put money down might be a problem for sure.

>>160123458
streaming might be the answer here if we were to do that. but we should see if betting is something others would jump on to, no point in even trying if no one will bet.

I always set my history to very short.

I'll still get gobbos, right?

>>160123986
they won't have spread very much

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>>160122415
Hmmm, depends on your announcements.txt but I think it only adds if there is a report started, if the first attack leads to a dodge off a cliff I don't know what would happen.

Suppose it might have tried to jump across a gap and missed, creatures jump a lot more freely nowadays. I've even seen goblins and shit just jumping as they cover terrain towards me.

>>160123885
Toady should just do a livestream of him playing DF

The issue about tilesets I believe has been settled and the tournament will be held with the Vanilla DF tileset.

I strongly discourage any betting as this is only meant to be fun little competition amoungst /dfg/ to see who can provide and groom the best gladiator with the rules given.

Streaming is looking a little weak right now so I most likely will stick with the original plan of posting gifs.

>>160124068
But I'll still get sieges right?
Maybe I'll check my civ menu

>>160119668
>next adventurer dies very early because I somehow fall into the river while trying to drink water
Welp, another thing to add onto the 'do not ever do this at home' list.

>>160124364
you wont get sieges unless they are neighboring you so yeah check your civ menu.

>>160118702
>>160122854
>>160123341
>>160123458
>>160123715
Ok guys, chill out
Lets just do a normal, non streamed tournament first and see how things work out

There are many little stuff that needs to be considered after this 'trial' tournament, like nerfing the points/size distribution.

After we see this thing working we can start worrying about other things, so we should not bet on this tournament

Anyways, your interest in the subject shows that you care about the content here, so every idea id apreciated

betting with OC instead of money sounds so cool

>>160124208
>You will never breathe deeply from the thick folds of Senshi's beard
>His powerful musk will never envelop you and drive you into a frenzy of passion
>He will never cook you breakfast after a night of passionate lovemaking

Why even live?

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>>160124678
>I'm not saying I'd kiss him, but I'd rub my beard against his.

Also, The Thing reference.

>>160124678
because scratchy analingus leaves beard hairs in your asshole?

>>160124678
>>160124838
>>160124941
well, this waifuposting got sexual really quick

Im quite bothered, senshi is not for lewd, its for cooking and be drowned by undines

>>160124537
ah, crap.

I think I started a succession fort without any enemy civs.

>>160124364
>>160124537
Do mean the neighbors tab from the embark screen? The civ menu post-embark only shows civs that have already interacted with your fort. If you haven't had a siege or snatcher yet then no goblin civ will appear there even if they are close enough.

>>160125065
How did you think he was going to "make love" to you?

Anal?

>>160125065
It's about time this general found some proper waifus. And I'm not even going to mention kobold posters.

>>160125282
Are waifus actually good to a general?

>>160125193
oh. okay, then there is still hope.

>>160124838
oh god, the screams of the thing are coming back to me.

>>160125419
Every general has them, so they must be!

>mfw your adventurer fell to game crashing on checking camp's chieftain

I am fucking done with the game for today.

>>160125592
That one is a deep trauma from peeking around the corner and watching it as a little kid.

>>160124941
I... what, no!

>>160125065
Senshi is to be cuddled and loved for his delicious cooking and magnificent beardliness. I've got a woman for the sexytimes, I need a Senshi for the dwarven cookery!

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>>160125601
Are...Are we about to fuck something, arent we?

>>160126702
Somehow this Senshiposting has allowed us to reach page 1.

Surely this means to never stop Senshing it up in here.

>>160124678
>>160125205
>>160125282
>>160125419
>>160125601
>>160126254
>>160126702
We need to stop before it's too late. Give waifufags an inch and they'll take a mile off every thread. See: every other general

>>160126927
i want to fuck cave swallow womyn

>>160126927
>>160126849
>>160126702
>>160126254
BECAUSE WE LOVE SENSHI WE MUST LET HIM GO

MARK MY WORDS BROTHERS. FOR IF SOMEONE EVER TALKS ABOUT SENSHI AGAIN IN THIS GENERAL, HE'LL BE SHUSED UNTIL HE SPEAKS NO MORE OF IT

>>160127078
no u

>>160127078
It is tough, but it is needed

>>160113434
Its possible to headshot a kobold not by properly firing arrow/bolt, but just by throwing it. With average human strength and novice archer/thrower(happened when i found arrows, but could not get bow).
Just throw-throw-throw and see kobolds falling. They are very weak.

>>160127078
...but, my beard aches for him.

>>160127423
shus anon
shus

This general suffers from oneitis. We finally find our waifu but, we haven't stopped to think if this is really what the general needs.

>>160114487
Part where he tried to ride a kelpie and almost drowned was awesome.

>>160127569
>>160127617
sorry brothers, I must
Shus

>>160127560
I shall weep quietly and pretend it's him running his fingers through my beard, one last time.

>>160127063
It is terrifying.

>>160127791
we understand your pain m8, armok knows we do, but
shus-awoo

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>>160112848


>>160115418

>>160128226
>that plump helmet man
Sweet Armok have mercy

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>>160128226
>999x666
nice

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>>160128226
Is that antman holding a giantdong?

>>160127941
>never knowing what the inside of his helmet smells like

>>160128571
Oh fuck I just noticed it's wearing human skin.

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>>160127569
New waifu?

>>160128708
>Is that antman holding a giantdong?
I thought it was a string instrument.

>>160128226
I probably should post the size of the combatants. The size of a queen ant woman would surprise you.

Thank you for doing this. I really do enjoy seeing your artwork whenever you post.

>>160129042
dual copper bucklers

>>160102673
>yandere simulator

Like, THE yandere simulator?

I need to check that out, haven't seen anything about it for a while.

>>160129039
If the dwarf girls had beards they'd be better.

>tfw you realize we all skipped the numerous females to zero in on Senshi

>>160109993
I always get shit about ravens and crows. Apparently the game currently treats anything that it spawns on you leaving T as an "encounter," which makes things extremely annoying.

I hope Toady does some real work on adventure mode next update, I was having more fun in .34xx

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>>160126927
The elf is a superior waifu anyway

>>160129498
Isn't the creator a douchebag?

>Fey Mood
>Menaces with spikes of lama wool

he asked for stone blocks and rough/cut gems, and used the fucking wool for menacing spikes.

>>160130615

What the fuck dude. Do you want to die?

>>160130615
Nigga you went full retard.

>>160130868
I've no idea, but the game itself looked interesting. Basically a murder simulator where you're trying to eliminate the competition for your senpai's affection without getting arrested by police.

>>160130615
And she is necromancer. Sort of.

>>160130615
she actually is

>page 9

ooooh

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Well, who could have guessed, you guys chosed the good option in the end, I congratulate you
5 to 1 you chosed to abandon Verliko and stay to face the were-elk female witch
Let's see how it goes


>You choose to stand still, as you see Verliko shouting for you to come with him
>As he is about to enter the forest again, he realizes that you weren't following him
>You goddamn idiot, they weren't our friends, they were just ghostly remnants from the forest, If I hadnt let them go to those elks, they would've eventually hunted as down! If I were to tell you it, they would have stopped acting, and would have killed us anyway
>You slowly begin to think that Verliko's words make sense. Even more when you remember that he seemed really sad when he had to let go your friends, as if he knew what was going on
>You still can go to the forest with him, he is not that far
>You move your hoofs and begin to-
>You realize the vines coming from the ground tied to your hoofs dont let you move, you wonder for how long they have been there
>'Shortly after your friend started running, my dear'
>You turn your head just to see the elk witch right next to you. She doesn't seem much like an elk now, but she is somehow very atractive to you
>She smiles teasely, as if she knows your very own thoughts
>''Im flattered, but Im not that much into animals, sorry''
>''We may be able to fix that soon, though. Until then, dont look at me, look at your life-long friend''
>Your head turns on its own to see Verliko, who is also tied to the ground, screaming in despair, unable to escape
>Lembuk, good luck in you-
>Lembuk literaly explodes in a paint of gore and organs, smearing pieces of him up to 20 metres around.
>You have become the last elk of your tribe, because of your bad decisions


Well guys looks like you chosed the wrong opt-
>Silence, Human storyteller, my time in your realm is not over

What the fuck

1/2

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>>160112848
>>160129301

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oh no

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>>160130615
this
>>160131093
>>160131142
acquire taste

>>160134994
ayy. Nice. Looks much less like that ant person is about to bash the poor plump man with a giant dildo.

>>160134994
Wew

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>>160135005
Just kidding.

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>>160134123
>Dont curse Human, For I Morbana the witch, have not stopped talking. This story needs a proper end. One that wont dissapoint those other ''anons'' you fancy so much

What...do you suggest?

>Give them what they want. Let lembuk have sex with me, and keep his, now dead species, alive

Ok, how does this work, do I give you cash o-

>Dumb Human. It is not mony or power I seek. I only want to produce descendance with the most poweful living being. I will gladly do it with Lembuk if that were the case, but how can we know?

I think I have an Idea, Morbana
>You wake up in a cold damp stone ground
>Wha'
>You move your newly granted opposable thumbs. The ones that were given to you so you could partake in your destiny
>Its a weird place, but you feel that you were destined to this place from the start
>You suddenly know your destiny clear as glass
>To procreate, you must kill


Lembuk, the (now) elk-man, partakes in the tournament, let's pray that he wins

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>>160135471
She exploded its abdomen with her shield.

>>160129301
My Ant Queen is hella weak tho. Then again, that minotaur guy will wreck anything anyway, so having some stupid shit in there might be fun too.

>>160124227
I can only picture a livestream of toady "playing" to consist of maybe 10 minutes in-game before he is distracted by something he wants to fix, then it would be a stream of him coding.

I'd watch it.

>>160128813
Dwarf leather armour, I'll have you know.

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>>160138174
Well done.

>>160135034
>mentions taste
>not choosing the cook

>>160138348
least I'm not gay for a fucking stunty

>>160137540
there were two minotaurs in the subreddit tourney and both were eliminated before the semi finals. Your ant woman has just as good odds as anyone else

>>160138454
I didn't say I wanted to fuck him, just a little beard-rubbing at most.

>>160135656
*claps*

I did... not expect that.

>>160137540
This is Dwarf Fortress combat. The minotaur has an edge due to its size, but one good hit to the brain will kill it, same as anything else.

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Stupid question, but how do I pick a fortress to reclaim? I can't scroll through them.

>>160140660
Fuck, uh, I can't remember the default keybinds for that shit, there's the arrow key scrolls, then the pgup/pgdn scrolls and then there's another one that changes those entries. I've got it on numpad / and numpad * but have no clue if those are default.

>>160140660
+/- or 2/8 or //*
It's not really consistent between menus, and after years of playing I often use the wrong scroll keys for the menu I'm in. Just try all of them until one works.

>>160141401
It turned out to be + & -, which I had tried but didn't work until I restarted. Weird. Thank you for the response.

Is there a reason why I can't bring an axe with me while embarking? Will one be easy to make if I don't have one?

>>160142482
just bring some metal nuggets, anvil, and some firesafe stone. can't chop down trees with wooden axes anymore.

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>took me 2 hours to figure out basic UI, dig out a proper space for shelter and stockpiles
Is it bad to take your time with this game?

>>160142940
Not at all. Take your time to learn and digest everything. This game can be brutally confusing at times, and taking your time is nearly required.

>>160142940
not at all. some of us have been playing for two years and still dont know everything

>>160142940
Yes, this is a very very fast paced game. Take your time and a werebeast will just noscope your ass from behind cover halfway across the map.

>>160142940
go slow. take your time learning. the best time you have with ANY game is when it's a new experience.

>>160143125
Werebwasts can wield weapons?

>>160146486
They can, but they normally don't.

You guys are alright
I'll bump this thread for you, but only once

>>160148450
Stick around, you might learn something.

So I kind of barely know what I'm doing in DF. I started a new fortress, and made the mistake of wanting to wait until my nice big planned layout was dug out before I actually start doing shit and placing workshops and stuff. Now it's taking much longer than I thought and my animals are dying, and I'm very low on food and booze. I'm pretty fucked.

Is there any major downside to abandoning the fortress and just immediately reclaiming it?

Is it worth it to join a bandit clan rather than a civ?

>>160148739
All your shit will be scattered everywhere and forbidden. Dwarves that were present when you abandoned may be dead and ghostly or alive and berserk (though most will just have left). Any creatures on the map will have scattered as well, possibly including forgotten beasts in the caverns. You'll start back with 7 low-skill dwarves and have to wait for a labor force to arrive again. Last, but not least, you deprive yourself of the experience of prospering despite nonoptimal conditions.
I can't stress that last one enough; this how you learn to play DF. It doesn't sound like you're even in very bad shape. A few dead horses or whatever and and an understocked pantry is hardly dire straits. The mere fact that you consider yourself fucked is plenty of reason to stick it out and sort your shit.

>>160149262
You can do both.
Also you gain nothing from either, all doing so does is allow you to ask the leaders for quests.

>>160149594
Thank you. I will keep on going with it. I just felt like it might be dumb to try and salvage my situation when I don't even know all that much in about DF in the first place, but you're right. I need to learn how to deal with shit.

Does anyone else have a habit of overextending themselves in the early game? I just love making a nice fortress layout and don't want to have to go through the growing pains of building up to that big fortress.

>>160149767
Well I mean are the quests more fun as a bandit dude

>>160150746
They're the same afaik.

>>160150825
Really? I was hoping for quests that would be more bandit-y. Oh well.

>>160151203
I'm not speaking from experience here. Feel free to try them out.

>>160150690
yep. i always embark with 6 miners so i can get a lot of the fort done quickly.

>>160150690
Its best to keep your fort small to start.

>>160152128
Yeah, it's something I'm working on making myself do.

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>>160150825
There is supposed to be ones like "make trouble for [somesite]" and "go mug people at [thatplace]" but they aren't working right I don't think.

>>160150825
>>160151203
Eh. They'll be phrased the same, but you'll get quests to say, kill the dangerous bandit leader Lord Tantrumwetness and it'll turn out he's the owner of a small estate instead of a bandit leader.

But as far as criminal-specific quests, no. Pray for the next version, maybe Toady will get some sort of autism breakthrough and make adventure mode worth playing.

>>160152231
the trick is that everything is centralized around the meeting hall. You'll be hard pressed to run a fort without one, because (unless you use burrows, which cause more problems than they solve) its impossible to get a dwarf to use a specific food stockpile, so even if you place one right next to him, he might travel halfway across the map to get a drink anyway.

So I made a giant pit built specifically for goblin sieges, but I found out after playing my fort for about 7 years that I'm nowhere near goblins, and I'm kind of disappointed. Can new civilizations pop up around me given time?

>>160152231
I usually dig out an 11x11 room, put a 5x5 food stockpile in the center, (i usually ban seeds) then layout 20 tables and chairs around the stockpile. Then you put a table in the center of the room, press r until it expands to include the walls, then press h to turn it into a meeting hall.

Everything else is about the distance your dwarfs have to travel to the meeting hall, and to a lesser extent, their beds.

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So I'm working on melting down stuff I don't need, but my smelter refuses to melt these (and iron leggings) even though I have them marked as M. What's going on?

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>>160157527
are unforbidden? can your dwarves reach them?

>>160157942
They're unforbidden, and yeah, they should be going in the main stockpile. I think that might be the issue, they're in transit so the dwarf stops. I don't know if the stock screen updates when the item is done being crafted or when it's put in a SP, so I'll create a new one and see what happens.

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Why has Toady been silent for so long?

He's not feeling trumped by the election results, is he?

>>160157527
>stuff I don't need
What a lucky coincidence that the things you don't need are the highest efficiency items in their categories for the melt-return exploit.

See how the stock numbers say 4 in white and 35 in red? That means that 35 of them aren't usable. You can see that they aren't forbidden or dumped, and that they're a different color than the 4 wooden trap components, which are the usable ones. That cyan color means they're constructed as building components. So I'll hazard a guess that you've built them in weapon traps.

>>160158354
>melt-return exploit
what a strange coincidence :^)
Yeah, I gathered that for the trap components. But I'm not trying to melt those ones. I'm going to have a read of the stock screen on the wiki to see what the brown for my leggings is.

>>160158534
Just means they're items you produced and aren't otherwise inaccessible (built, forbidden, etc). They might just be equipped by your military, which doesn't have its own color.

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Update time

As the day on my side of the earth draws to a close I am pleased to say that we are almost at the 16 contestant mark with the edition of a certain turtle and an elk turned elk man making the count sit at 13. Three days away with three slots left.

A few things were also discussed today. Including the look and feel of the tournament.

-The tournament will be in Vanilla tileset
-The tournament will go along as planned with me posting gifs or webms of the bouts while writing commentary and providing combat logs. I will not be streaming. Bet at your own risk, I do not approve of it.

Again, thanks you guys. Without you this probably would've just sat up on my idea board along with the idea for a collaborative DF mod and the succession fort idea.

Rules/Main Docs: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1il8e8uo9bgtNBU0udCetOHesN4mkkDCVB_z6zdMgReY

Email: [email protected]

edit: wrong choice of words

>Loli, the god of travelers and healing.

>>160160956
there is some fanart that keeps popping up from time to time about a loli, god of silence

Instead of 300, the Elves just call it 300. Anyone else have cool battles from their world?

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>>160161534
Err 3, and I forgot the battle...

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>>160161180

Is beekeeping actually worth it? What can it contribute to my fort?

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>>160160956
Yah DF names can get silly sometimes.

>>160160229
Just sent a gladiator in. Lemme know when you give him a look over.

>>160158110
>inb4 he died days ago

>>160166251
Honestly, that'd probably turn out fine.

His brother would release the source code, which would prompt bay12's autism army to launch a thousand new forks. At least a few would survive, and at least one of them might be made by a competent programmer. If anything we'd be getting updates faster, but we'd run the risk of questionable balancing/gameplay decisions.

>>160166350
>but we'd run the risk of questionable balancing/gameplay decisions

so nothing would change except updates would happen faster?

somebody assassinate toady

>>160166350
>>160166595
Th-that's not very nice. DF is still around thanks to the very same autism that stops him from hiring someone better. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

>>160166350
I feel that everyone would focus on gameplay mechanics/QOL and worldgen/storytelling stuff would be left to rot.

>>160166350
>>160167152
how much does he make on donations at the moment? Would hiring someone even be viable?

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>>160166595
>assassinating toady
how about no

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>>160167875
>not assassinating Toady and kidnapping scamps

>>160167714
>toady
>letting anyone get their grubby mits on his baby

>>160115418
What comic does this style remind me of? It's not Far Side, but I always feel some strange nostalgia whenever I see these drawings.
I swear I have seen an old comic that looked very similar.

Coming to think Hunters/Rangers are pretty based
might be a bit of a no-shit realisation I don't know, but always disliked them at first (fishers too, same reason)

But once you get a good number of them & keep them decently equipped they're too good to waste on indoor work, great food/refuse source, better than an actual militia for clearing out surface threats so long as you keep some decent bolts & crossbows on hand & depending on your map size they're pretty effective for early detection systems

and you literally havn't even had to micromanage them once at this point, they just go do their thing.

Probably fair to say if the biomes dangerous enough that they're spending more time in the hospital than outdoors then maybe less so

>>160168018
I heard he has a subdermal dead mans switch that purges all backups of the source code instantly

Can bandits marry?

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I'm playing a polar bear man adventurer. I just fist fought the master of a goblin camp, beat her into submission, and then finished the fight by tearing out her throat with my bear teeth.

That was extremely satisfying.

>>160168374
unless you embark on a calm beach with literally nothing to hunt

>shoot masterwork bolts at giant keas
>they stick to him
>he leaves the map
>guy who made them kys himself
The only winning move is no to play

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>>160160229
Anons, this is DWARF fortress, where are all the dwarf gladiators?

Of course I understand it's intimidating to go up against a plump helmet man but have some courage, he needs the exercise!

>>160158110
Maybe he was struck by a strange mood and is on the verge of finishing a masterwork update. It menaces with spikes of binary.

>>160168072
Makes me think of far side also. Or Horrible Histories (which if you haven't read, Drew, I'm sure you'd appreciate).

>>160170057
Is martial trance really all that useful as an ability though?

>>160170193
glad to know that I am not alone with that feel
also now investigating horrible histories, thanks friendo

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Help.

I might have just cloned my companions. All I wanted to do is get back because I forgot to get my first quest.

>>160171060
What? How? When?

>>160170391
I wish I knew why it doesn't want to activate in adventurer mode.

>captcha: BETTER INDIANA

>>160171865
Nevermind, for some reason they showed up twice.

Also, why the fuck rivers are frozen so often? Any tips on that?

>>160171946
It's an incredibly useful ability. I don't know the maths on it but dwarves in a trance seem to easily carve their way through enemies.

IIRC it will trigger when surrounded by hostiles, so you'll need to be significantly outnumbered.

>>160172938
I've had so many fuckers around me trying to kill me that the game crashes if you try to queue up an attack, on far too many occasions to count, and never seen it activate by itself.

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>>160160229
Size to Point ratio doesn't seem very consistent...
Let's say an Elephant-man wants to participate as he is bored of being shown in circus.
His size is 2500+. That leaves what, 10-20 points for skills and gear? heh.
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Elephant_man

And http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Sperm_whale_man would be too big to fit without going into negative points?

>>160173142
Well yeah, but elephant men have a huge force modifier when it comes to blows which connect, and they have tusks, which have the game's most deadly attack associated with them.

>>160173142
Another anon and I are well aware of this. I didn't make these rules, merely borrowed them. I agree with what you are saying and have been trying to think of something better but, we are already so far into it with what we've got it would suck to just turn around and change everything already. If you are asking me personally what I think the elephant man point allocation should be then it is 100, Im setting that as the bare minimum I will set something that outsizes the largest thing on the chart. If the general wants more after this tournament like a monthly or every other month thing then the whole points system that we are using now is gonna have to be overhauled or tossed completely.

>>160173296
>>160173343
I just wanted to know if Elephant Man can fit, dont mind that he would get basically 0 points.
Gonna write up a small background and figure out how to apply the poor sob the the !!FUN!! pit.

Can I just do it all over /dfg/ (Email: [email protected]), or do i have to make a ribbit account and apply there?

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Bedrooms

Stone cabinets and chests or wood?

Easiest way to find a vampire?

>>160173538
I really dont care if you do it over dfg, I just didnt want to swamp the general with posts about characters and ruling questions and such. pretty much anyone has put it in over the email. My leddit account got suspended for some reason like 2 years back so dont worry about there.

As for elephant man. Come to think of it isnt 2500+ like just a hair shy of a dragon? if thats the case then I see more like 50 points being fair.

>>160173784
dragons are more like 25000+ so no. but I agree 50 does sound fair.

>>160173628
legendsviewer

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And the slots are full.

Any submitted after this will be put on reserve but, recent revelations might mean that any put there probably wont get used, not with the rules that we are using now anyway in the future.

There are still some things I have to take care of before the tournament can start. I am still waiting for a update reply from Lembuk's manager which I will be giving till 11/16/16. After which the tournament will start.

For now I will announce that the Bracket is up.

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>>160174937
>nude menace vs purple menace
>mfw that happens
What are their species anyway?

>>160175084
Kobold and Plump Helmet Man respectively.

Their info is up on the main document in the combatants tab.

>>160174937
did you randomize the bracket, or decide using your own judgement? Either way, seems okay to me.

>>160175842
random name picker website, drawing from a hate didnt seem random enough to me.

>>160176076
hat*

I was thinking, what if we catalog and categorize all the available races by weight-class like: Lightweight, Middleweight, Heavyweight. and run seperate tournaments for each. It would work well for a semi monthly type thing.>>160160229
>>160173343
>>160173142

>>160176960
>Let's turn the tournament that didnt even start into 3 other tournaments at the same time and find 10 more people to manage them
Would you also like to rent a stadium and broadcast it to millions of people on live television? heh

Let's not get too crazy before even this tournament idea comes to life. We can experiment further on it after 2-3 tournaments if it sets in with the people and keeps /dfg/ entertained.

it was a highdea

>>160176960
>>160177141
yeah, no. like what >>160177061 said.

>>160174937
Not a single dwarf. I guess they're the ones who own the arena.

>First giant fight in fortress mode
>Have 3 squads in mostly iron gear, one of them marksdwarves, so figure i should pull through
>Pull everyone inside, close main gate, station squads... Giants going off in another direction after a fisherdwarf and a child
>fisherdwarf and babby duck & weave like real dwarves, only one goresploded foot
>Single macedwarf finally arrives on kill order, way ahead of everyone else, figure he'll at least be able to save the other two
>Let combat run for a second and check combat
>Macedwarf has broken the giants right leg, left ankle & right wrist, and knocked it down
>Marksfaggots show up and take the kill after its had every single part of its body mashed by the macedwarf

better get some cool statues at least, mortal wounder would be attributed as much or more than the slayer in this case?

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Why the fuck are you talking about them, then?

>>160177424
because rumours are broken. if you want quests that are reasonably close to your location, you should take hearthsperson quests.

alternatively, you can ask about the surrounding area until they reveal some nearby lair.

>>160177545
It really is quite frustrating. The best result is to just spam or macro the trouble>beasts etc conversation options.
On worlds I care about I'll note down locations and their inhabitants in a .txt file, otherwise I'll just spam it until all locations are marked on my map and leave it up to chance what's in the lair when I show up.

>>160177303
was a Novice Macedwarf somehow, despite macing to death the last werepanda that came by

>>160166595
Toady specifically said that the source code will NOT be released if he's murdered.
Guy knows his audience.

>>160178706
The key is murdering him without looking like murder. Just hire a local joint to make weekly Cheese triple bacon super burgers promotions for game developers and we will get rid of him in no time

>>160178834
Before releasing the code, Threetoe will commission a stuatue of Toady's death.
If it has any fans laughing or striking menacing poses, no source for them.

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>>160178965
Made me kek, nicely done

>>160107980
If I'm not mistaken, you can actually 'appoint' a new mayor. They'll just appoint the vampire again next time

Correct me if I'm wrong tho. This worked for me for a while

>>160112410
Even if it's indoors?

>>160180182
This brings back horrible, horrible memories.

>some dudes get massacrated by a diamond fb
>comission statues for them
>guy makes statues of them embracing goblins and trolls
Fucking colaborators, good think I'm flooding their little tomb with magma so nobody will see that.

>>160180401
it's true.

doing it when the merchants are visiting will piss off the liaision, though.

>>160174937
You gotta add the art ninedots made to the site, it's lacking the ant woman and the plump helmet guy

>>160182601
i don't get it

elves don't give a shit about dead animals, if that's what you mean

>>160182601
Why did you dig a swimming pool in the desert? Apparently before even digging out a basic fort?

>coffins made of magma safe material melt
JESUS FUCK TOADY GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER YOU FAT USELESS PIG

>>160158110

Toadsworth better not have been stumped by the Trump

>>160182890
practising for the olympics

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>>160183583
I honestly hope it's not because of that. He never seemed to care about politics that much, so it's probably not about that. Still, I am a bit worried.

Maybe some of his new hipster friends made him join some anti-Trump rally?

>>160186385
Maybe he was arrested by the gestapo and is being put to work at the NSA!

Should we hire a shady /dfg/ guardian to watch over him?

Why wont my dwarf civ attack me? ive slaughtered the last 3 trade caravans and tried to chase off the liasons without killing them. What am I doing wrong?

>>160187175
how many 3x3 stairs did you build?

>>160186525
>Toady One hired to make data mining algorithms for the NSA
>Two years later, he has added procedurally generated trees
>The algorithm has feelings, and needs to have regular days off to pray to its gods and such, or it works slower
>If you mine the data too deep, you unleash an unending horde of demons

>>160187175
Because it's your own civ, and is hardcoded to never attack you ever.

year 3 and counting of "yeah he's a vampire and killed half my family, but politically he really speaks my language despite being in a cave walled off somewhere I've never been and having never spoken to or met the guy in my life, lets reelect vampire mckillyourfamilysson for mayor!"

>>160187647
If they didn't vote for their vampire, a completely wrong vampire could get elected.

>>160187565
seriously? so they will just keep bringing me wares to take? That's pretty lame. Should at least cut ties with me or something.

>>160178706
I've seen people say this for years, and no one has ever been able to source it. Can you?

>>160187475
>Said demons spread out and infest any computers nearby, causing fatal nemesis errors and duplicating the records of important targets
>NSA agents' implants can be taken over by the demons, causing them to attack anyone nearby and cry uncontrollably
>Toad is cornered in the main server room, surrounded by agents swinging miscellaneous objects at high velocity amid cries of "It is terrifying" and "Greetings, this servant of freedom welcomes you"
>A nearby wall explodes, leaving a gaping hole filled with the silhouette of a vaguely human form
>"greetings, Toady One, I am Coldsteel, I identify as a hedgehog-human hybrid and I hate lame people, come with me if you want to live

>>160188610
He said something about it in the recent dwarfmoot video, not sure where else.

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The only thing he's said since the election.

In Fortress mode, can shields be used with any weapon?

Does anyone have some cool worlds they want to share? I really just want an embark on a glacier with goblins, a tower or two and a neutral neighbor (Elves are always fun to fuck with, so are humies) so I can fuck around.

I get so lost in perfect world, I'll spend a week tweaking everything and then just not play.