/kfg/ - Killing Floor General

SDK isn't working again after installing the beta. How do I fix it, lads?

Opt-in survivalist update is supposedly live, by the way.

>>159954410
Yup. Launched the game and saw that Tripwire took 0 notes from the backlash people had to the preview skills and everything is the same, even the randomized weapon on spawn.
Great job as usual, Tripwire!

>there's already skins for the shield and mace on the market despite the fact that neither the weapon nor the skin are actually in the game yet, just the information that verifies someone has it in their inventory
http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/232090/Mace%20and%20Shield%20%7C%20USA%20%7C%20Battle-Scarred

>last thread 11 days ago
>3 posts

Really makes you think.

>>159955494
Willing to bet this thread will die with less than 10 posts too simply because this update adds nothing to the game.

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>>159954101
>more firecuck nerfs
>slight funslinger nerf
>age old bugfixes
>airborne agent doesnt fuck anyone up now
>survivalist is shit
>0 servers in browser

what went wrong

>>159954209
opt in to the beta sdk too.

>>159955953
There is no SDK beta this time around.

>>159956006
guess you have to stay tuned for a week then.

when the fuck are we getting new guns?

half the fun of playing a new perk is using new guns

>>159957102
>when the fuck are we getting new guns?
Christmas 2018

>>159957102
POST
RELEASE
CONTENT

Haven't been here in ages. Is Survivalist really that bad? From the looks of it, he looks like he could be a battle medic or decent short range class. Not the best class, but better than demo

>>159957469
>Not the best class, but better than demo
Demo is one of the best perks right now. Have you not played since the I&D update or what?
Survivalist is utter trash. You have no idea what skills they have selected and every single task they do is done better by a specialized perk. Being able to use an off-perk weapon SLIGHTLY better than other perks is not enough to justify its existence.

>>159957469
>Demo
>Bad
You really haven't been here in a while huh

why the revive

>>159958158
Because there's an update, for better or worse.
If we die before the bump limit then let's leave it.

>>159958158
New update is out and the game comes out next friday

>more firebug nerfs

what the fuck

>>159958490
Who cares? Fuck Firebug.

>>159958818
t. demofag

>>159958961
>t. any perk that isn't Firebug
FTFY

I sure do miss the bantz

survivalist is pretty ass

SS's 9mm's are fucking amazing though
take Marksman and they feel incredible

Also, new sounds for pulveriser, DBS, Caulk, and subtle sound changes for RPG and Railgun (i think)

They fixed gorefast blades so they dont have a magical magnetic barrier

Frost grenades are powerful as fuck. Massive radius and freezes everything for like 6 seconds

fixed massacre 1shots all trash in a single sideways light attack. Worth considering before scrakes spawn.

Survivalist is as shit as expected. He'll probably be okay in about 5 months.

also, medic farts no longer rock your vision

I kinda don't want to play this update, I mean survivalist is basically the same shit we already have

they also fixed projectile issues (like crossbow and evisc) and numerous bug fixes.

grenades changes are pretty nice.

-Overall nice and appreciated bug fixes and tweaks
-No worthwhile content other than 9mm's for SS

>>159954101
>Full release date: November 18 on PC and PS4.
I wonder what they can accomplish in 1 week

The game doesn't really feel complete to me

>>159960741
Because the rest of the actual game will be "post release" content.

>>159958490
I hate leveling firebug as it is.

>Marksman 9mm
Holy shit it's so fast

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We waited 3 months for an incredible shitty content update.

Not even a new fucking map or weapon.

I ... just ...

>>159961509
Not even a new knife or fucking icon for the new perk.

>Husk remembered how to suicide
Guess they were Hillary supporters.

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>>159962330

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CUTE

>>159960301
>>159961292
>9mm now receives SS perk bonuses
Should have been that way from the start desu senpai.

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>>159962989
That's not the demo I know.
Her skintone is lighter, her eyes aren't brown, and her hair is longer.

Survivalist is fucking shit. Boosted his ass to 20 right away, these skill choices are so fucking stupid it hurts. This kind of perk just doesn't work with current skill system

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>make a jack of all trades perk that requires nothing but a simple skill tree
>fuck it up anyways

>>159964142
>>159963914
All the other perks were pretty garbage when they first came out.

Hopefully it will be serviceable, in a few months

>>159964310
gunslinger was pretty good, actually it was probably too good considering you could shred crowds with deagles

>>159963914
>>159964142
Is there any reason to use survivalist? How would you change it to make it viable?

Not sure what skills exactly, but it would make for a more interesting perk if the skills changed depending on the previous choices.

>>159964601
>Is there any reason to use survivalist?
Nope.
>How would you change it to make it viable?
Where the fuck do I even start?
I could write a long post explaining what I would do but I honestly don't care enough to come up with a good explanation and better ideas than Tripwire because ANYONE in the thread can make a Survivalist that's more competitive and fun than Tripwire.

>>159964310
>Release Medic, Firebug, Nuke Demo and Gunslinger
>Garbage

So this is why they removed Support logo from machete in previous update.

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>>159964440
>actually it was probably too good considering you could shred crowds with deagles
tfw you have to sacrifice reloading speed to do it now

>>159964601
remove it and just have crossperk functionality for perks on guns of their class

>>159964601
It's kinda better SWAT in some way? Maybe? I don't know, at lest survivalist have damage resistance, faster heals, can explode crowds and have more space in inventory.

>>159964601
move nailgun and evis over to survivalist, give zerk more melee weapons.
Survivalist should have DIY-esque weapons that provide wide forms of utility. like the Nailgun being able to pop heads at range or shotgun at close, evis being able to fire a ranged attack and being able to melee with it. move the HX grenade pistol to him and give it the original alt-fire. Dunno what to give to demo though, maybe claymores or some sort of 5 shot micro-explosive pistol

Give him weapons that benefit from all of his varied perk bonuses. Evis gains melee damage on the melee but gains headshot bonus on the disc. His entire point shouldn't be that he can use every other perks weapons, but rather that his perk weapons cover multiple roles that are usually filled by a specific perk and manages to do it well enough that it's not garbage, but not good enough that it overshadows the other perks.
For example the nailgun would never be a better shotgun than what support has, however if he needs to pick off a couple of heads he can just switch fire-modes and dunk a few things quickly and easily then immediately go back to shotgun mode if something is close. something support can't do with his "low" amount of ammunition (nailgun with single shot headshots is waaay more ammo efficient on trash than the pump action is, less efficient against the big guys though)

Survivalist can be good if he's treated as an actual perk whose purpose is that he can immediately react to any situation with the weapons on hand, not that he can be spec'd to somewhat fill a role that another perk already does way better.

So we waited 3 months for some fixes.

>>159966508
Some fixes and a perk that makes the game WORSE.

Thought demovivalist would be cool, but without explosive resistances he's a suicidalist.

>>159966508
it looked like they were making such good progress too

oh well

So how about those husks instant suciding you?

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>>159967248

>>159967152
They are, ps4 version will be ready at 18th. I guess all three months were hard work for ps4.

>>159967248
>So how about those husks instant suciding you?
Are they just aloha snackbaring themselves instead of waiting for damage to be done?

Is it possible to just host a game for you and friends? Any server that isn't horrible is full

>>159965074
>original demo
>anything other than pure debauchery

i hope you enjoyed grinding the first 25 levels buddy. I'm sure it was worth the pain.

>>159964601

>Choice between move speed and health

>choice between reload speed (for all weapons) and damage (for all weapons)

>increase ammo vest to at least 20%, as well as increasing grenade count
>Weapon harness lets you start with a second T1 weapon on top of carry capacity

>replace explosion radius skill with bonus to explosion radius + fire range + recoil reduction + melee swing speed

>some kind of defensive buff for a zed time contender with firing speed

Also, free range choice between grenades/Starter weapons and unique Kitchen Knife

>>159968102
It is, though using the server take over option is much faster.

Heavy armor bonus is my favorite
>spawn with 25 armor at lvl 25
>it's gone in a sec because you don't even notice the hits wearing it
>no way to switch to normal armor so enjoy wasting your money every round
this fucking perk just keeps on giving

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I missed you /kfg/

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>>159969708
Good to have this shithole of a general back for a little while, you miserable fucks are alright.

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>>159969708
>>159969985
>we're most likely going to fall off after 300 posts, 20 of them being anons desperately trying to keep the thread alive

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ded gaem

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Can chat stop being dead pls?

>>159969345
Where do I go to host a game? I don't see it anywhere on the menus

>>159969708
Bought the game during the latest steam sale from g2a. I never had to put up with any of the bullshit as the game was being made, but just reading and hearing about the whole process pissed me off something fierce.

Slowly getting used to the game, but is it just me or did they nerf the shotguns in this game? They don't feel like they have that same kick they did in the original.

how soon do you think they'll add an in game cosmetics store with cs go style crates after the game is officially released

>>159969657
Why would anyone spawn as Survivalist anyway?
>Random tier 1
It's like rolling the dice depending on your Skills, this "Perk" is a whole new level of laziness for Tripwire

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>>159970790
Do we tell him?

>Parry bug is still not fixed
at least there's something good about this patch

>>159970935
No.

>>159970935
I don't know anon, it might be a clever ruse.

>>159970790
Are you serious or just pretending to be retarded?

Holy shit is the only update for the full release going to be Survivalist - the no new content perk?

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nth for FUCKING FINALLY A GENERAL

Quick suggestion for future threads, if that will even be a thing. Kf 2 tweaker.

>>159971157
Yes. Not even a fucking community map.

>>159971472
What?

Has anyone noticed the new blood splatter effects when playing as zerker? Breddy good if you ask me

>>159971536
https://rejzor.wordpress.com/killing-floor-2-tweaker/

Are the survivalist achievements bugged?

>>159972349
Yes

>lvl 10
>you either get a slightly buffed heals or become a shit zerker with no more zerk bonuses down the line
Who in the name of FUCK thought this was a good idea? Fuck. Someone nuke their offices, please, I fucking beg you.

>>159970748
A little bit, yeah, but absolutely nothing compared to the peashooter hell they used to be relegated to before some well-deserved buffs.

There was a good argument for Support being the worst perk in the game for a while, particularly when the zed resistance update first came out and you were hard-pressed to kill a single trash zed with a point blank SG shell.

Shotguns feel like they're in a good place now, for me. They're not as powerful as KF1, but they do the job and the penetration and DBS mobility give you a couple niches to work with.

Getting nothing but bugsplat when trying to launch the game in the opt-in beta.
Sasuga TWI.

FINALLY A FUCKING GENERAL

How to fix Survivalist
Base passive:
AVAILABLE FROM LEVEL 0
+10% global damage
+10% damage resistance
+10% move speed
+10% melee swing speed
+10% reload speed
+10% healing potency
+10% faster syringe cooldown
Being able to move, attack, reload and switch weapon in real time during zed time.
Spawn with dual 9mm

Scaling passive:
+2% switch speed per level (max 50%)
+3% Zed Time Reload (max 75%)
+1 bonus HP per level (max 25)
+1 armor per level (max 25)
+1 HP regen per 5 level (max 5)


Boom all the small global bonus (damage, reload, move speed, and good zed time ability from LEVEL 0 but they do not scale. The only thing scales is switch speed, zed time reload, HP and armor. So leveling Survivalist feel less retarded.

Level 1:
Professional: 15% faster reload + 100% incap bonus (knockdown/stun/stumble) + 200% melee bash damage
OR
Destroyer: 10% bonus damage on all weapon. 110% bonus damage on knife and 9mm.

Level 10
Enrage: gain more move speed, damage, melee swing speed and resistance when taking damage
Explosion Maniac: 20% explosive resistance, 5% more explosive damage, carry 1 more grenade and 30% to cause explosion after killing a zed

Level 15:
Heavy Weight Training: Carry 3 more weight and 2 more grenades. 10% global damage resistance and cannot be knocked by Zed.
Chemical Warfare: 20% chance to release a cloud at a zed corpse that heal teammates and damage zed after killing a zed

Level 20:
Enforcer: Consecutive shots will slow zeds by 20% and have 20% chance to apply EMP to them
Time Manipulator: 5% chance to trigger zed time while shooting. During zed time you have 30% bonus damage.

Level 25:
3x attack speed
or
15% total HP healed.

>>159976271
>Being able to move, attack, reload and switch weapon in real time during zed time.
didn't even read the rest, fuck off

>>159954101
>stop playing this in late 2014
>2 years later the game still isn't fucking out yet

what went wrong?

>>159977070
The game wasn't even out in late 2014 you fucking liar.

>>159977070
You're fooling no one, buddy. Perhaps you should fuck off as well.

>>159977070
Fuck off /v/

any weapon combination for Survivalist. I find pretty trash

>>159978168
med AR + med pistol + railgun is kind of fun if your team is alright.

Pretty much everything else is awful, survivalist does about 75% as much damage as real perks and can't speedkill nearly as quickly. Battle medic survivalist is the only real use I've found for it.


RIP gunslinger

So is survivalist shit? How bad is he?

Was hoping for a perk where you could actually customize your skills instead of pre set ones. For example taking a level 5 from commando, level 10 from medic, level 15 from berserker, etc. That would've been interesting but probably pretty broken.

>>159978862
>So is survivalist shit?
Yes.
>How bad is he?
Boring premise, terrible execution. It's worse than Berserker on release.

>>159976271
basically okay

enrage wouldnt be very good. you dont want to encourage people to take damage

explosion maniac is only really good if you're using demo weapons

3 weight isn't enough. 5 is good.

>>159978919
release zerk is extremely polarizing. He was a really shitty berserker but he was an extremely good martial artist since parries negated and stunned everything in existence.

>>159974000
I like lvl 20 even better
>chance to explode enemies with any weapon which in itself is pretty fucking weak
>or increasing explosion radius when your grenades get replaced by healing or molotov at lv15, making it 100% useless unless you get demo weapons

>>159978862
see
>>159978829

can't solo sc/fp's efficiently (if at all), less ammo & damage than dedicated classes, no real utility since picking either type of grenade hurts you (less carry weight vs less healing).

>doesn't have the hp/regen to tank like zerk
>doesn't do enough damage to kill big guys like sharp/gs
>much less damage & ammo than demo, no nuke either
>no zed time extension so it's worthless as a commando
>no stuns, small magazines, very little armor, so it fails as swat
>much less damage than support and has almost none of the utility
>probably shit with fb stuff too but I don't care enough to test it
>zedsplosion rarely kills anything and is more likely to kd zeds making them harder to decap

mixing guns doesn't help at all. twi should just turn it in to an offensive-oriented healer or alternate tank instead of being lazy but that will never happen.

>>159974000
The nature of the survivalist class makes it impossible for it to be anything but much better or much worse than existing classes. It was basically made for casuals who want to mix and match and be borderline useless

>>159980916
>zedsplosion rarely kills anything
i dont think it can even kill a crawler point blanc

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>>159980916
>offensive-oriented healer
Fucking goddamn do I want a non-Medic healer perk.

If only they went with that for SWAT, like I expected what with the SMGs and all.

>>159960301
>medic farts no longer rock your vision
Finally, the game is getting to peace
Are gas crawlers still a never ending chain?

>>159981554
RLRLL, med ar , med smg (or pistol), railgun survivalist might be okay but I haven't played many games with it.

It's a shame you can't have 20 carry weight and heal nades at the same time, then you could go med AR, pistol, xbow, pulv and help your team with big guys

>>159981519
I think (?) I might have seen it kill a trash zed that was already hurt by penetration. It might be worth going with MTGB just to stop that skill from KDing everything

>>159981952
spawn rate reduced by 33% my dude

>>159982039
Reduced by 33% sounds like a lot but it really isn't when you say what their actual overall spawn numbers are.
Going from 30% to 20% means they will still get chained infinitely.

Quick question, is level 10 high enough to do suicidal or should I stick to hard until I hit 15?

>>159963914
This is going to be the single perk I boost to 25 without having played it legit, the concept itself is just bad.

>>159982254
Stick to hard.

>>159982254
it's fine for suicidal if you know what you're doing, otherwise wait until 15 or 20

>>159972349
Difficulty clears aren't working for me, but the leveling ones are.

>>159980627
I use shotguns and explosives with a medic pistol anyway.

>>159982439
>>159982569
Cool. I struggled on hard until I hit 6 so I'll wait till 15-17ish until making the switch up.

>>159982031
I've actually been meaning to see how my "three letter acronyms" joke Support loadout of MedAR, DBS, RPG would work with a Survivalist healing/heavy weapons skill focus.

>>159980545
Holy shit, mate, I think you just fixed the problem of how to make the Martial Artist different. Just make his parries as godlike as the zerker's was in the beginning, but make him squishy and fast so that missing a parry would spell death.

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>no mace and shield

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>>159982949
His knife could have been one of them smaller looking katanas. Gonna google for a pic of what I mean. Guess it's called a tanto?

Also giving it a ninja aesthetics to emphasize the glass canon style of play. It could take back the katana and then you could have throwing stars or kunai as throwing weapons or hell even as the classes grenade.

sounds like the beta isn't even worth installing, thanks for saving me some time

>New non perk
>no new weapons, grenades of even knife
>no new weapons for existing perks
>not even a fucking map
>no new mechanics
>nerfing firebug even more
>no other notable balance changes than a few grenade tweaks and sharpshooter gets 9mm bonus
>5gb

It's fucking shit lads

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survivalist new meta healer

I would build Survivalist as a Commando/Medic cuz I want to save my teammate while not losing trash clearing ability

Survivalist is shit against big zed. 15% damage is not enough. You also don't have all the other extra bonus that make the weapons work.

>>159985694
railgun is ok and doesnt feel cheap like it does on full left ss

Bu...bu...but Survivalist is supposed to be for veterans!

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>>159985694
>picks two hybrid perks who are shit damage against big guys
>"guys survivalist is shit, not because I chose trash killing only builds"

"Kick Survivalists as soon as they join" script for servers WHEN?

>>159986749
Never

>>159976271
>5hp/s regen
fucking retarded

so what is the best weapon combination for a survivalist?

I know it'll be shit regardless, but how do you actually make the most of it?

>>159970490
Anyone know this pls respond

>>159990634
have you tried googling it?

>>159990748
But spoonfeed

"Sharpshooter: 9mm/dual 9mm now get all skills and passive bonuses of the perk"
Why it still takes 3 headshots to kill a Gorefast?

>>159986518
dumb chinese cartoon poster nigger please. I try combination of big zed killers like RPG/Hunting Shotgun/Pulverizer/... and most of them still suck dicks. You are a mediocre trash clearer and not even good at dealing with big zed. The only good Survivalist weapon is Hunting Shotgun but it's because Hunting Shotgun itself is a good offperk weapon not because Survivalist brings anything new to the table.

>Dual SW500 fire rate decreased 0.19 (was 0.14)
But why?

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>>159994608
That's the SWAT stun nade

When I first read about the Survivalist, I envisioned him as a jack of all trades, master of none, which means the kind of guy that is basically a wild card that can help out a class in any role that the team may be lacking in, while being able to instantly switch and go help another totally different class as the situation demands it.

However there's just one problem with this, that is the carry weight. I can't be a jack of all trades if the carry weight limits me to a single T4 weapon or if I have to force myself into carrying a bunch of T2 weapons which will barely be of any help in higher difficulties excluding certain cases.

So now not only does the Survivalist do low damage, he has to, ironically, specialize himself in a single role if he wants to be effective at it at all instead of being dead weight, and that just feels like its not what the class can be.

So here's the thing, why not, as the perk levels up, give it more carry weight, faster weapon switch, and most importantly one hell of a discount on all weapons(that only he can use and pick up so that the teams don't just pile dosh on him to buy everybody their weapons). Imagine a perk that can carry a Medic Assault Rifle for healing, an RPG for Flesh Pounds, an AA12 for Scrakes/panic, and a SCAR for trash clearing, all while being able to do switch between them extremely fast as the situation calls for it.

Since the survivalist doesn't have the specialized perks that make those weapons truly shine, he has to compensate by being able to help at anything at any time or else he's just going to be dead weight.

>>159954101
RIP Firebug, Napalm was fun while it lasted.

the only case I would see survivalist being viable is if the team wants a medic, but with better firepower

otherwise, it's pointless to multiclass with anything else

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I've played in bits and pieces since alpha, but fuck I still don't understand at all the underlying meta. I don't understand what classes are good at what, or what most of the guns are built for. I don't know any of the little tricks like I did in KF1, such as the hunting shotgun crown, or what the useless perks are

Is there a guide or pastebin somewhere with all of this kind of information at once?

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>>159983024
>firecuck
>non class
>no copy paste-fast
>no mace and shield

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>leveling mod work with the opt in beta
Well, I'm taking five of minutes to get this shitty perk to 25 and never bothering with it ever again.

Done for the night. I gotta say, I missed you faggots. Hope we're more alive come official release.

>>159999667
>Hope we're more alive come official release.
Probably, since all this update added was one shitty perk that doesn't at all change how the game plays and everybody seems to be boosting it for the sole purpose of never using it again.

>>159996230
but even then the medic outperforms him to a ludicrous degree
and med can just pick the damage perk if he needs more damage

>>159995101
currently i think the highest tier weapons you could have would be like SCAR/RPG but even then you're just horribly gimped even at 25

anybody got an idea as to what the best survivalist build is then?

>>160001040
1) Choose what weapons you want to use.
2) Pick the perk that specializes in those weapons instead so you can actually be useful.

>>159997175
survivalist and fb are both pretty useless, gs might be fucked but I haven't tested it very much.

RRLLR support and LRLLL are really useful to your team and easy to learn. Use cheat engine or trainers to boost to max level if grinding isn't your thing.

What questions do you have about guns and meta?

>>160001214
aside from that, just what can you pick skillwise and what weapons can you pick to squeeze out the most from survivalist
>>160001226
firebug still has actual use though unlike survivalist

>>160001321
The only time I'm ever going Survivalist is if the team has no Medic but I don't feel like being one, so I guess the healing grenade and healing dart boost while always carrying a medic pistol at the very least is going to be a mandatory setup for me.

>>160001457
even then it seems completely pointless since the damage bonus surv gets at 25 is 15%, while the medic damage skill is 20%
and the zed explosion thing does 10 damage

>>160001584
Well its more for those "I want to use a shotgun or explosive weapon but the team has no Medic" situations, not for actually using medic weapons ptimarily.

>>159997175
in KF1 perks were pretty different, but you can tell who's who. In here, "meta abilities" shit make the roles abit blurry. I think it's safe to consider the shit same with the first game.

>>160001226
>trainers
ehhh
where

Well shit. I apparently lost my Napalm Sticks to Kids .wem file at some point.

Anyone happen to have a download link? I might have to actually try and learn how to convert sound files since the game isn't the same without it.

how do i berserker

>>160003412
https://u.nya.is/cabxwz.zip
if you trust random executables from 4chan. you might have to toggle the 24 thing a few times and kill a single zed to get it to work. please don't try to use the other shit.

>>159993838
Well you should have specified that beforehand, rather than just saying "commedico sucks"

>>160004210
Bruh i'm not going to risk a vac ban on kf2 of all things

>>160004142
Force yourself through to lvl 10, should pick up from there. What level are you? What problems are you having?

>>160004142
Pick your battles very carefully. Block and Parry. Go in hard when the getting's good and back off quick when things get dicey. Don't be afraid to take damage, but don't get yourself in a heap of shit.

Have a really good feel for how much attention your medic is paying you, it makes a really big difference in what you can survive and what you can't. If you have the medic's full support, leverage that into aggression, if you don't, take it easy on the risks.

To a lesser extent, know who on your team will stick around and help you out, and who starts retreating as soon as a scrake starts swinging. There's relatively little harm in going full defense and seeing if anyone has got your back before you commit to attacking and enraging something.

>>160005296
level 16
using dreadnaught, vampire, and resistance

I can't seem to handle big guys too well.
When it comes to trash, it's a pretty easy slice and dice, but when the FP comes charging, I'm pretty much dead.

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>Get a new GTX 1070
>Put my game on Ultra settings minus shadows with gibs turned on
>random frame drops
At least it was only a few frames, but with fluids it would drop to around 40 and whenever it did drop it clearly stuttered. What the fuck

>>160006038
FLEX is HORRIBLY optimized, don't use it.
It looks like shit anyway so you don't miss much.

>New animations for Nail Gun and Caulk n burn
>New DBS sounds

Why tho

>>160005874
If you're blocking and parrying FP hits and it's still killing you, you're either not retreating enough and letting it combo you so much that your medic doesn't have time to heal you (or you have a REALLY shit medic), or the rest of your team is chain-enraging it when you clearly need some time to back off and heal.

In the former case, build yourself a hit-and-run rhythm that lets you swoop in for a hit or two, block/parry the counterattack, then back up so your medic has time to heal the damage you took.

If it's the latter, feel free to flee behind your team and let them get fucked by the FP in your stead. If you have low hp and they are still shooting at it while you've got it aggro'd, they are retards who are getting you killed and deserve no sympathy.

>>160005296
>What problems are you having?
Tripwire.

>>160005874
FP dies from 4-5 pulv hits. Blocking is your best friend. Watch the big guys and learn when to block/parry and counterattack.

>>160006141
You're right, but shit man, how disappointing.

>>160005874
Download SomeTestMap from workshop. Don't forget to read the description. Spend 30 minutes there and you should be soloing big guys no problem

>>160006141
i like gibs, it's the flex blood that i don't care for

Fucking remove survivalist

Is this game anywhere near the original yet? I played for like a month when it was first 'released' and then quit because 3 maps and too few perks

Survivalist is pretty pointless, but surprisingly fun. Getting to choose between weapons for current situation on the go.

>>160010749
It surpassed KF1 launch content months ago.

>>160010749
Sort of?
The gameplay is about on par now or slightly better, but if you want the charm and style (banter, voice lines, Grindhouse style) then that's never coming back.

>>160011240
>never coming back.
;_;

How did swat turn out? Glancing at the wiki it looks just like another trash clearer

>>160011304
It's alright. It kills Scrakes far more reliably than Commando and has the best zed time skill by far, but overall if you don't like shooting A LOT of bullets then you won't enjoy it nor is it much more effective than Commando at killing trash.

>>160011304
he's not bad, just doesn't really do anything. He needs a talent and passive rework and he should be good.

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>After being in early access for a year and a half we will finally get our hands on the full release in less than a week

>They're adding absolutely nothing new

It's incredible that right up until release TW continue to embarrass themselves in spectacular fashion

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>>159954101
Okay /kfg/ I need your expert opinion. How is kf1 compare to kf2? What is better and what is worse in 2?

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>>159957102
>new perk

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>>160015064
>they killed Martial Artist for this

Is there a way to remove the scope from SS weapons , the zoom is getting on my tits

>>160015374
Shoot from the hip.

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>>160014962
What KF2 does better:
>better graphics (duh)
>way better animations
>more interesting melee gameplay
>zeds are more interesting
>the grind is doled out into much smaller pieces and makes it much more tolerable and doesn't have stupid requirements (like kill 6 million stalkers as commando for example)
>maps are more intense
>gunplay is a bit better
>the difficulty is a bit higher (depends on your perk, playstyle, and preference, though)
>"more" perks

What KF1 does better:
>way better atmosphere
>more 'genuine' dialogue and more dialogue options
>slightly less cosmetic cancer
>fleshpounds are kitable and way more scary
>scrakes are actually a threat
>no poison crawlers
>perks are way more distinct and aren't split up (SWAT is Medic's other half, Gunslinger is Sharpshooter's other half)
>has way more weapons and maps but that's only because it's been out for much longer

If you had to ask me which game is better overall, I'd say KF2 but grudgingly so. One of my favorite things from KF1 was its unique atmosphere and amusing dialogue that I never grew tired of despite the fact there was only really 2 voices to choose from (more characters added later have more voices but you know what I mean).
If KF2 could have only ported over the feel from KF1 it would without a doubt be the better game. But until KF2 gets more maps and weapons as post-release content, KF1 is a better game overall.

Though, good luck finding any players for KF1. The game is basically dead other than a handful of servers run by Russians.

>>160015498
But the bullet is less accurate though right?

>>160016002
Yes, but at the short ranges in this game where a scope would be more hindrance than help, it won't matter.
Turn off your crosshair if that's what's worrying you. It makes guns look way more inaccurate than they actually are.

>>160016002
The first bullet goes right to the center of the screen. More recoil means a very quick second bullet will go off-center more than it would with sights, though.

>>160016234
This was my problem , the crosshairs get massive after a shot, making that laser on the ebr seem useless

>>160016396
Then disable it in the options. Lots of people will argue "but KF1 didn't have crosshairs" or "I'm too pro for crosshairs" but really, you will feel much more accurate without crosshairs and if you can't see the fake bloom then you will be more inclined to hipfire.

>>159992309
Because gorefasts have 50 head health while regular trash only has 20

>>160010749
it's got like 12 official maps and a lot more custom maps (some of which are really rather excellent, like Nuked or Powercore)

>>160011304
Both of the two voices are still around as 'Classic Briar' and 'Classic Masterson'. So they're not completely gone. It's lost the kind of goofiness that comes with 6 people sharing the same 2 ludicrous british accents. Now there's a scottish dude and an australian girl and a LARPer.

>>160016396
Other than for recoil, the EBR (and pretty much every gun) is 100% accurate on the first shot.
The movement of the crosshairs doesn't mean anything

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>>160015317
>People asked for weapons not to be restricted to perks and make it so perks can gain benefits based on weapon type like in KF1 i.e Trench gun can gain penetration benefits if used by support despite being firebug weapon
>They gave us this.

Still, its a good battle medic class. But they could've done so much more than this

>>160017763
>Still, its a good battle medic class.
No it isn't. Medic has a whole skill tree dedicated to being a battle medic and it's shit.
Survivalist is an even shitter version of that shitty tree.

>>160014647
Early access done right.

>oh cool a perk based on a versatile contrasting loadout
>first skill ensures you don't pick a contrasting loadout

>people realize the heavy armor training skill for swat is detrimental to player's survival overall
>TWI adds a "survivalist" perk and forces all its players to have the same effect

>>160021654
>heavy armor training skill for swat is detrimental to player's survival overall

?

>>160022991
The level 5 skill that makes your armour take all the damage. It's bad because it eats your armour within a minute and leaves you defenceless

>>160022991
You lose armor FASTER with the skill on than without it.

>>160022991
Instead of making damage go through both your HP and armor, it all goes to your armor which means it goes down extremely fast

This means you spend a lot more dosh on armor, medics can't use their lock-on to give you buffs, and sometimes it's hard to tell if you're taking damage

It's only good to spawn with during the first wave for free armor as long as you avoid any damage

>>160022991
it'd be way better if it negated the low health movement penalty, caused all damage to go straight into your health until you had a low amount of health remaining then began taking all future damage into your armor.

>>160023215
>>160023231
huh, i see. I saw a solo swat hoe that used all left side perks

>>160023328
That's probably the one instance where it's fine to use it

>>160023328
One of the few benefits of the armor thing is you get to keep your movespeed even if you get ganked for half your health. Your armor just disappears and you can still sprint away with full hp speed.

Pretty decent for HoE where getting caught out normally means getting crippled and run down like a dog.

ded

>>160015556
>Though, good luck finding any players for KF1
With the latest sale there are like 1500 players at a peak time. Not bad for a 7 years old game. The ugly thing is, only Normal and Hard servers are populated. Most of the time at higher difficulties you find only shitters as clueless as you are.

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Long time quitter here. What happened to that "you damage a ZED and they block their face to ENCOURAGE TEAMPLAY" shit? Buried into the ground like "most effort taking" resistance system? It sure made soloing a drag, now I see solo vids everywhere.

>>160026091
I've noticed that too. Damn shame because I never able to experience many suicidal games, let alone hell on earth.

>>160026091
It's also $1 with 4 DLC on HiB

>>160026328
They actually fixed the hit boxes on blocking so it does not reduce damage on the whole body. Its not as bad as most people say. Scrakes almost never block and blocking made gorefasts and bloats even less of a joke.

How in the shit do I fix my problem? Even on low-ping servers I'm getting fucking lag-teleports all over the place. I hope this isn't a problem with my ISP, because that shit is beyond my control.

>>160028457
Are you playing wireless? That's typically why.

>>160028725
Nope, desktop connected via ethernet cable to router.

>>160028783
Don't know, then. I get that too and I usually blamed it on wireless.

>>160028457
Fps lag or actually latency? Had to turn down my settings down to high because of the frequent fps drops. Was going from 60 fps down to 5 fps at random and in some cases it lasted 30 seconds or so and when it finally unfucked itself I'd be dead.

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>>159954101
>get new update
>see news about flux liquids being fixed and no more memory leak
>use it
>it lags even fucking worse not
>still looks like some shitty exaggerated gelatin pools instead of it simply being like blood that drips down bodies and whatnot
>disable it again

also
>survivalist is clearly the "we ran out of ideas and time" perk

why did they even bother adding these things?

>>160030787
Not an FPS drop, thankfully. I already tried turning the settings down.

I cycled my router and that seemed to fix it, so I guess I'll just have to do that before I play KF2.

>>160026328
Still here, but they fixed the hitboxes so that it's not as much of a ballache

>>160028457
try using a different adapter

>>160031151
so that they technically wouldn't have broken the promise of 10 perks on launch

>>160031876
>try using a different adapter
Network adapter?

>>160032413
yep

i switched mine out and it works fine now

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>>160027002
>I never able to experience many suicidal games, let alone hell on earth.
If you are talking about difficulty Suicidal is hardly different from Hard. Any M1 spam from a high level perk with a moderately heavy or priceful weapon overwhelms the ZEDs. AA12, Crossbow, L.A.W, SCAR you can spam them at a choke point and be done with it.

Hell on Earth is the difficulty where everything cranks up. ZEDs are faster, hits harder, more vital, have random speed modifiers on top. Spawn delays get shorter and longer more often, so killing with control and discreet use of nukes are a must when kiting. On top of all these, they cover and protect each other when they attack as a large group to organize.
Some of the weapons that work in Suicidal somewhat rendered useless in meta because of their reload times, due to fast moving and fast spawning specimen.
If you have a capable team of experts in HoE, everything will feel like a light breeze tho'.

tl;dr: It will take like months to see those hardmode scrubs to climb up to KF1 HoE. So you'll have plenty of time as long as you have time to kill.

>new patch
>have to adjust sensitivity settings AGAIN

>>160033216
>Not learning from the past patches and backing up your input file so you can restore your keybinds and sensitivity

>>160033332
how do you do this

>>160033459
>Documents\my games\KillingFloor2\KFGame\Config\KFInput.ini
Make a copy of that file and keep it there just in case

>>160031830
Hopefully that will fix your issue whenever it crops up.

I'm turning the flex options off. Seeing as it apparently isn't worth the hassle at the moment.

>levelling up gunslinger
>aim like a god
>beating HoE at low levels

>reach 25 gunslinger
>can't hit a head if my life depended on it
>forced to downgrade back to suicidal

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>>160035792
>dont normally have a problem with recoil
>leveling slinger even with a single deagle is way more than expected
>dont play it much because I dont want to look scrubby in games
I can fire from a good range and hit the head, but doing it in rapid succession always ends horrible

>Survivalist
>If you pick Weapon Harness, anytime you level up or change perk settings the game resets your weight limit for a second and drops the weapon that exceeds your carry limit
>Keep dropping my weapon at inopportune times
Early access done right.

>>160037445
Cute nep poster

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I don't even have the Tormenter Headgear. What's happening to case this?

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>>160040965
*cause
Also, it seems to stay the same in the field as well. I wonder if other people can see it?

>>160040965
>>160041076
No idea anon, looks like an improvement if you ask me.

>Wait 3 months for some bug fixes
>Survivalist is so underwhelming, /kfg/ can't even complain about it for 700 posts

ded thred ded game

>>160046367
I haven't even played a single real game with it yet. Out of boredom, I've just been power leveling it in perk training just to get the achievements. It's so fucking useless. Off handing is so pointless to me and making a whole perk around it is even more so.

>>160047035
I thought survivalist would be the perfect demoman that can heal

>>160047196
I thought it would be more than a "buy what you want" shitter class

Like SWAT, I'm wondering if I should bother playing it. I only play one match every 2 days now.

>>160047196
Using Demo weapons with it is fucking awful
>Shit damage
>No stuns
>No siren res (have fun!)
>No passive explosive res so have fun blowing yourself up or ruining your armor

>>160047286
I wouldn't bother with survivalist.
SWAT is decent though

>>160047035
I can't even play to shit on it, nothing but bugsplat.

>>160048198
I like the mp7 and mp5 for swat. Mp7 reminds me of the smg from halo odst.

>>160049884
mp5 is a unique kind of sexy

>>160047339
You can get the crossbow for stuns.

nothing can actually decap before the stun ends and you probably need the extra carry weight perk to have enough room.

crossbow x3 > bash > dbs is okay I guess, crossbow > aa12 also kind of works sort of not really just play support desu

It's funny how damage bonus on Survivalist is so shit it doesn't really matter. You won't be killing Fleshpounds with RPG faster, trash still takes 1 headshot with assault rifles, AA12 bonus is so low it won't make a difference if you kill a Scrake with one shot less when you max out the perk. Everything you do, you could basically do with any perk offperking.

game ded on release

no hope for twi

>>160050789
The only bonuses i can think of is 1-shotting clots with the deagle or m14.
But other than that you might as well pick an actual class and offperk your other weapon

>>160050789
only thing of note could be zed explosion since it works off any weapon, but even then it does 10 damage

>>160056071
Most of the time it creates more mess than being useful.

>WWAUT post compares survivalist to bard in D&D
>survivalist is shit
what a liar, bard is best, this perk looks like ass

>>160060461
>bard buffs the whole team while getting bitches in each arm
>survivalist doesnt do any of these

>>160062305
>bard does everything well
>survivalist doesnt do anything
he'll barely even survive, his one fucking job

Just give Survivalist better tankiness. So he can be a tank who can clear trash and heal teammates

Survivalist is shit against big zeds despite using big zed killing weapons because of the low bonus damage and the lack of other bonus like Siren Resistance, Stun Power,..

Only use for him is a Combat Medic. Too bad his heal is shit and does not come with other bonus like damage, resistance or move speed.

So just make him a real tank. Can use every weapon at basic level while can take an extreme amount of damage

>9mm

Why does my game keep crashing as soon as i try to load it up?
What did the beta preview do?

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We all agree that Survivalist is the worst perk on par with Firebug, right?

>>160066278
Your game is trying to save you from this disappointing update.

>>160067367
Well thats nice and everything but i have friends i need to play this game with
This is worse than figuring out why my game crashed when it loaded a multiplayer game
Tripwire didnt want glow textures to be modded, so it just crashed your game until you deleted the mods with glow skins

>>160067743
>Tripwire didnt want glow textures to be modded
Still mad about this, I miss the working night sights I had made for my 9mm back then

Survivalist is really great, nobody on Hard has more kills than me :^)

>>160067743
>>160066278
found out the problem
my startup commands were -nostartupmovies -console -dx10

It probably didnt like the dx10 one

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Am I the only one that feels that switching from M14 to a different weapon takes twice as much time as with other guns?

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>>160068794
>-nostartupmovies
Damn, I didn't know you could use something like this, shit starts fast as fuck now. Thanks man.

>>160068954
All SS weapons have long switch speed.

>The bug where you cant go forward when you use the trader returns

holy shit, how do they break their game with the same bug they fixed

>>160069873
Also the looping audio still happens, now with Husk's sounds.

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>Survivalist
>Strange grenade man that sucks at being a medic

oh
my
goodness

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>convince friend in 2014 to buy KF2
>he seems to enjoy it as much as the original
>gets hype as fuck for the Martial Artist after we discover it's going to be a perk
>stops playing, says he'll pick it up when MA comes out
>1.5 years later

I'M SORRY
I DIDN'T KNOW
I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WOULD DO EARLY ACCESS RIGHT

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>>160071980

>a good gunslinger can solo 6man hoe, let alone clear trash well
>medic's main job is to clear trash when there is no one to heal
>firebug can erase entire hallways of zeds
>demo deletes entire zones of zeds with one click
>zerk hacks and slashes through everything, trash included

what even is the point of commando lmao

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>>160071980
>2014

>>160071980
>>convince friend in 2014 to buy KF2
game came out in 2015 you faggot

>>160072249
>>160072218
Correct, 2015
but we were privy to seeing the game played in 2014 at Comic Con, also at a really cool booth

>>160072175
Idk about that firebug one, at least with it getting nerfed again. It's my least favorite perk to level.

>>160075870
Same, shift movement + M1 gets really fucking boring after awhile

>>160075912
That's the least of it for me. The weapons are as good as limp noodle when it comes time to do the deed. A weaker flamethrower and a microwave gun? Fuck the caulk and burn, give me the damn mac 10 so at least I have some range to my attacks. I haven't used the microwave gun since I got the ground fire skill, even on boss waves I just shoot at their feet so it creates trails for them to walk through. Maybe make the aoe of the molotovs a big bigger as well. If they're going to nerf it to near uselessness then why not just get rid of the perk?

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>normal
>normal
>normal
>hard
>Hard
>normal
>hell on earth
>ping: 214

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>mfw new double barrel shotgun firing sound

>>160077795
I like it desu

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Well, if we h-have to accept Survivalist, maybe I can cosplay as Lo Wang

>>160078240
and just like in shadow warrior the guns are useless

>>160077795
I think its better

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They finally fixed it. Thank fuck.

>>160078808
>chainsaw hitbox
wew laddew

>>160078808
I thought the problem was that they blocked way too often
As soon as they were shot in the face, they blocked their face. Then after a full second, they block again
It made bloats incredibly annoying to shoot at

>>160077795
It feels like a sidegrade, it's not better but it's not worse.

>>160017763
>People asked for weapons not to be restricted to perks and make it so perks can gain benefits based on weapon type like in KF1 i.e Trench gun can gain penetration benefits if used by support despite being firebug weapon

True. Some weapons should be cross-perk
Commando's weapon damage bonus should be applied for one of the pistols, but only gunslinger should be able to dual wield them
Same for Support and trench gun
Same for weapons SWAT uses IRL, including M4 Right now SWAT is just Commando for people who can't aim well.Swat should be more unique and have riot shield and baton. Berserk should get weapon damage bonus for it too

Demo should be able to choose between different types of grenades

Also bolt-action rifle for Sharpie when?

why is this game so underrated

it's pretty good in terms of mechanics and gameplay

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>he actually won

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZNtYmdZ-4c

>>160079365
Because slow updates and dumb decisions gave it a bad rep for a while

>>160079365
early access retardation

like introducing fucking microtransactions half way through

>>160079643
not even good microtransactions
we could have had model swapping like different pump shotguns
instead we have 2/3 chances of getting a shitty scratched and blotchy texture

>>160079643
>"we need extra funds to support our staff!"
>"oh what's that?"
>"oh sorry, martial artist won't be happening"
>"instead, enjoy this low effort perk we made that introduces no new weapons or mechanics"

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>>160079443
>tfw you're in a blue state

>>160080362
What's the riot like outside? Any lines for food rations?

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>>160080459
>Hawaii
So, work output across the islands slowed for a bit and depression through the roof.

>>160080459
Im in central CA and alls quiet so far.

I play with crosshairs on

>>160080362
>>160080459
>>160080691
Dont watch the news so often. 99% of cities just get on with their lives

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>mfw trump supporter
>mfw surrounded by college liberal cucks
>mfw trump wins

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>funslinger
>top kills on the team
>top fp/sc remover
>most damage
>good assists

>didn't get most headshots

how do i parry good

it feels almost impossible against big guys because im too busy hammering their face

>>160082008
try and kill with the zwei because you can just spam light attacks with the pulv

/kfg/ dead yet again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXNLVFNF-Uc

have a video bump

Crossbow and HM-301 are a pretty neat combination, especially now that the HM-301 feels more powerful.

>>160082304
is it more powerful?
i always thought it looked like a fun weapon to use but I never really play medic.
If it got damage and penetration bonuses from Support i'd be all over it

>>160082304
may as well grab the katana too

>>160072218
Get that spider off briar, quick!

>Spontaneous Zed-plosion (explosion damage) 10
This is worse than demo's old skills

>>160077795
I like it. Sounds MEATY af

Holy shit. I wasn't planning on even commenting about the surbibalisd update but the crossbow actually works now guys. The crossbow actually fucking works. The incredibly laggy and unresponsive hitreg at any range beyond 1m is no longer, I thought it was just going to be that way forever.

>>160083551
Since resistances, the medic shotgun is actually decent in tight maps but the ammo is still total garbage. Without a noticeable penetration stat it will remain with poor ammo efficiency.

pls dont die again

>>160085605
i think kfg will stay alive when the game is officially """"out""""

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>>160085687
Let's hope all that "staying tuned" was worth it.

Oh who the fuck am I kidding. 2-3 months past post-release until we get Objective mode.
KF-Nuked won't be an official map either. holy fuck TWI

>>160085687
w..well im back. Though im sad that the main thing i hated from KF1 stuck around, the ability to switch perks between rounds. As an autist i want to have a 'perk identity' and stick to it

>>160086038
>feburary 2017
>no updates since release
>h-hey guys, first post release content pack is here
>i-its that shield and mace haha, and that two bladed gorefast, w-we've also nerfed firebug and adjusted bezerker to be more healing focused.
>its...
>stay tuned for more post release content updates, haha..

is there a mod to increase player count for solo play in this like there was in kf1? I want to grind some perks up to 10 or so before i go online with them

>>159954101
>PUT ANDERSON BACK IN THE FUCKING GAME ALREADY edition
FUCKING YES PLEASE!!!!

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>>160085687
The general will only get new "life" in the form of maybe 20-30 PS4 players coming to the general and asking what to play and how to get better.
After they learn the ropes and go through the usual greentext stories we've all read they'll be staying tuned as hard as we've been since the first day of early access.

>>160072175
>what even is the point of commando lmao
Utility. It's not the best perk, duh, but it's nice to have one.
Being able to see stalkers is great because they're so fucking annoying.
Extending zed time feels good both for the player and for the team (assuming they aren't stuck in a 10 second reload) and perks with infinite ammo in zed time will love you for it.
Ranged 1-hit decap trash killing is also a neat skill to have. Medic can sort of do it but has tons of recoil, SWAT isn't meant to be aimed with, and Firebug doesn't have the range for it.

It's always better than Survivalist but that goes without saying.

>>160084131

rofl

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>Was expecting new update to revive /kfg/.
>Instead it's smallish update with a shitty class added and little to talk about.

Shit.

>>160089653
Even the post-release content doesn't have much to talk about when it's released.
We'll be getting, what, a shield, a "new" zed, maybe some balance changes and bug fixes, MAYBE a new map?
Perks were the bread and butter of discussion for this thread. With the 10th perk just being filler garbage to not break the one promise they felt compelled to keep, it's unlikely they'll ever add a real 10th perk.
Maybe if we get more weapons in one update than just the mace and shield it'll be something worth talking about.

>>160089053

A garbage man perk would be a better perk than Survivalist.

>>160090048
Well Survivalist already fits half the bill, he's already garbage.

HOW TO MAKE FIREBUG GREAT AGAIN

or more like make Firebug great for the first time because TWI has fucked up every version of Firebug since Firebug releases.

Firebug:
Bonus damage: 1% per level (max 25%)
Faster reload: 1% per level (max 25%)
Fire resistance (both self and zed fire): 25% + 3% per level (max 100% seriously, Firebug should always be immune to zed fire like in KF1)
Mag size increase: 4% per level (max 100%)
Burn duration:12% per level (max 300%. This is not OP considering damage over time is a really bad niche in the fast pace game where zeds jump into your face every second)
Bonus damage overtime: 4% per level (max 100%)
Bonus range: 4% per level (max 100%)
Napalm is a passive now (burning zeds spread to others on contact, no more broken instakill)
9mm sets zed on fire
Microwave Gun deals 100% damage to every kind of zed (would not be broken by any mean considering it mediocre damage)

And some actually useful skills. Could bring back some of the old ones like Fully Stocked, Bonus Splash Damage, the zed time skill that makes zed explode like crazy

>>160088843
>swat
s..surely it will be more useful when riot shield is put in.. right?

>>160090748
>just a shittier zerk
No.

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See you next update.

>>160090471
>WANTING Firebug to be great again
Yeah I sure do love not being able to see anything and not being able to shoot big zeds because they're panicking and then getting hit by big zeds because the Firebug pissed them off whether it was intentional or not.

>>160090471
>never
Firebug was great in KF once you mastered the husk launcher. You could easily deal with scrakes that way, and you could slowly burn FP todeath while kiting them (it would never go over their rage threshold) if you had to clutch.

husk launcher+trench gun was the way to go. Very versitile, you could snipe dangers, knock back hoards, or outright kill swarms if you had to.

>>160084301
I'll probably keep using the winchester and m14 desu senpai. Used the xbow and pistol combos in the original for so damn long that I didn't have much playtime with the lar. Maybe when I get to suicidal and hoe the xbow might be mandatory and I'll try it out then.

Also happen to carry the medic shotgun as well, not for the damage, but for the healing. Feels like the dart recharges faster on it now.

>>160089053
>SWAT isn't meant to be aimed with
If that were true he wouldn't have the accuracy to do it. SWAT ranged 1-hit trash decaps should be encouraged, though he can't do them to gorefasts.

haven't played for 3 months
should i install?

>>160093809
If you haven't played SWAT, give it a go. If you have, don't bother installing for Surv.