/aog/ - Attorney Online General

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First for Kirigiri

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Thread rules

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>>159864935

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who /gummy/ here?

Pre-update will be out in a minute, but the actual update will take another week.

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>>159864935

Actual thread rules.

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Post memes

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>waiting on dgs footage
>waiting on dd footage
>waiting on soj footage

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The Stolen Turnabout has been voted Great.
However, seeing as my computer died on me a few days ago I won't be able to continue with the polls.
If anybody wants to do it instead here is the last tier list revision without The Stolen Turnabout.

>>159873263
>Turnabout Sisters
>great
wewlad

>>159877829

Perfect example of degeneracy.

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>>159877829

>adachi:please stop

http://www.strawpoll.me/11615257

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>>159864935
>>159868612
>no WALLS
>With Trump in office

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>>159887812

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Courtroom 2 needs people for a case!
Get over here!
Most roles still free!

>>159889535

Did you call me a retard?

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>>159890518

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>>159890518

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>>159873263

>>159896242
Are you taking this just from whatever gets the most votes or the average? Cause I feel like the latter would be more accurate.

>>159896526
Not the poll runner >>159873263 so couldn't tell you. I'd imagine most votes.

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>>159873263
Alrighty.

How would you rank Recipe for Turnabout, /aog/?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11621738

No captcha because fuck that noise.

>>159896526
>>159897783

Most votes, unless it's a tie is how I did it.

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>>159899670

thanks doc

Our population is at an all time low. How do we fix this? Ban the shitposters is a pretty good place to start, I feel. They are actively scaring away any new players.
Another suggestion is purge some of the music list, lower the download size.

>>159901349

We have musicless downloads and music packs.
That kind of fixes the issue already.

>>159901349

the rampant shitposting is definitely a major contribution, but this is a kind of game that is very niche and can get very boring after a few months, so i'm not surprised most people have left.

>>159901349

People should realize the game is meant to be fun for everyone, not for a specific person or at the expense of others.

When you play to win, everyone loses.

>>159901349
People take breaks, anon.
You need to with a game like this.

Is shitposting rampant in-game on in this thread, because you can't do anything about the latter. Also most of it is just done for bump purposes. Unfortunate but it gets the job done.

Honestly, what's "scaring away any new players" is the amount of shit heaped on them from the start. There's an expectation that new players should read all the (mostly useless) guides and watch 7 hour long case videos and fucking study this thing to be perfect otherwise they'll get shit on by others.
We need to stop being so serious about it.

>>159901349
>Ban the shitposters is a pretty good place to start,
A very good start, I'd agree. The thread would be cleaner, and there'd be so much less toxicity in cases.

>>159901913
>Also most of it is just done for bump purposes
That's the excuse they give. The reason is because they enjoy shitposting, and watching suffering.

>There's an expectation that new players should read all the
I agree that this is a problem, too. When a new player pops up in an area, more often than not they get directed to a long ass guide, instead of just letting them naturally RP. Remember at the turn of the year, how everyone would cooperate for a better trial? Everyone let everyone else speak and do things normally.

Everything's getting too formulaic, desu

>>159901349
>How do we fix this?

We fix it by killing this general a week before the anniversary and move back to /v/ and stay there until we get kicked off again.
I'm not talking /v/eekends and such.
Drop the fuckhuge general like OP and everything else.
Axe all areas that aren't Courtrooms and Basement, we can add them back later, keep it simple for new people.
We can go back and look at how Lupa did stuff.
Seeing how content has slowed down to a crawl lately, it's not like you even need the general for content progress updates.

>>159903017
I agree with all of this.
Back to basics.

>>159903017
>We can go back and look at how Lupa did stuff.

You mean adding shit and bloat on a whim?

>>159903017

>breaking 4chan rules
>temporary solution to a permanent problem
>extreme methods

'no'

>>159904325
>>We can go back and look at how Lupa did stuff.

Talking about how he shilled AO on /v/ and early AO threads on /v/, of course.

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I'm working on an ini for a character, but whenever I try to play as them, the CSS overlaps the page. This only happens for this person. Any tips?

>>159911838

you messed up the button names or did not include enough buttons or messed up the character name in the ini

Hey Gumshoe, it's me Justice.
Seems internet is throttling, so I'll try to wait it out. Hopefully we'll get back in touch soon.

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>>159912071
All of those things are good...

>>159912361
It seems intimidating, but it'll only take 5 minutes to carefully work your way through them,

>>159912361

"name = x" is what the ini uses to find the character folder, if the folder does not exist, or you misspelled it, it will do that error.

showname is something different, if you're wondering.

make sure you have the right number of "emotions = x" to the emote list

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>>159912639
First things first, the name is still good...

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>>159912753
>>159912639

The emotion count and names are good, but it still won't work. If I type in the chat, the character still talks, but the CSS is still there.

>>159913058

just upload the folder as it is, i'll fix it.

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>>159913141
Actually, I'll try something first...

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>>159913218
Didn't work. It's a work in progress:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx_fqLgNKYCANTI4OXVhS3NoY0k/view

>>159913632

"You need permission"

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>>159913632
Fug: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx_fqLgNKYCANTI4OXVhS3NoY0k/view?usp=sharing

>>159912303
Yo, Justice, it's Gumshoe. If you're still throttling this internet and you read this, I need to readd you on 4chan. Some guy wanted me to do a case that I don't do anymore so I redirected him to you. I'll explain more in PMs since it concerns some of the stuff on your server.

If you don't remember the 4chan name, try asking /vg/ or some shit.

>>159914118

I'm troubleshooting everything that could possibly be wrong, and i'm still not sure. I even reduced the ini down to bare basics, a single emote, renamed every line, etc

I'll keep trying though.

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>>159915104
Thanks for your effort either way.

>>159915151
>>159915554
Wait, oops, I'm looking at another ini I have up. I'm such a meme.

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>>159915635
At least I'm getting the lipflaps done.

>>159915635
>>159915151
Wait, I think I've got it after that blunder. The image sizes are borked. Get them all to 256x192. There may be other problems, too.

I always have the last kusu. Now good night, for real.

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>>159915786
Thanks, good night.

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>>159915992

>>159917865
Do you just reply to everyone with caps?

>>159918383
>Take a picture at 11:23 PM EST after a case just ended and everyone left
>Surprised that the only areas alive are the Crossover Circlejerk and Idler's Paradise

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>>159918625

>thinking any part of the server is a circlejerk

>>159918625
>Crossover Circlejerk
Literally anyone can go in there, tho

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>>159918625
>Idler's Paradise
No, this is hell.

>16/100

What happened?

>>159924641

>1am EST

>>159924641
>>159924812
Banning night when

Overwatch is more fun than AO right now to be honest.

Reminder that anyone who exclusively uses female characters must totally be female in real life.

>>159930741
So Idler, Turto, Gina and Trick?

Reminder that I am ALWAYS touching myself when casing, even if it's just gently caressing my nuts.

>>159931242
Same here.

A stawpoll for a new Pursuit theme is up on the strawpoll doc.

>>159931038
Susato too.

>main a cute girl character
>people think I actually am a cute girl
>they fall in love with me
>they do exactly what I ask of them, even sending me lewd pictures of themselves
Just according to keikaku.
Translator's note: keikaku means plan.

I want to brush Ginasteno's teeth!

>>159934751
>even sending me lewd pictures of themselves
>6~10 people apparently actually sent Rhoda pictures of their dick
You fucking idiots.

>>159941265
>Rhoda uploaded all those dicks to a mega folder and shared it on discord

>>159944684
Link?

For uh... research purposes.

>>159945546

Doesn't exist.
Or at least has never been shared on discord.

When are we banning co and support prosecution?
Useless roles that 9/10 times contribute nil or make a case worse.

>>159948779

Support prosecution was created when we had so many people it was an actual race to participate in a case. Nowadays that isn't the case, so it can be safely discarded.

Co-prosecution is a good beginner role and still has some merit, it's just optional.

t. someone who prefers solo lead pro

>>159901349
Blame Lupa for leaving, he was the one keeping this shit afloat.

>>159948779
Co is fine to keep support can go into the trash on pros.

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>>159950175

When are we making soundposting a bannable offense?
People shouldn't have to delete sound files just because some shitposters can't control themselves.

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Hello! I am Trucy~

As an Uncle Ray player I insist we add this to AOV

https://imgur.com/b01JOM7

>>159961501

You forgot

>Call a mod.

>>159962140
???
N is not a female

>>159962361

>he doesn't know

>>159962361
>implying any of those are female

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Is this too rubber necky? It's hard to tell for me.

>10

http://www.strawpoll.me/11629580
http://www.strawpoll.me/11629580
http://www.strawpoll.me/11629580
http://www.strawpoll.me/11629580
http://www.strawpoll.me/11629580

some samples: http://imgur.com/a/hbTU8

full folder is on CCH

>>159966639
Fuck off back to CC.

>>159966639

Fuck off.

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>>159966639

>He is serious

>>159966639
>full folder is on CCH
So's a literal apple and Sans. They have to be there.

>>159966639
No.

When are we polling the literal apple?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11630031
http://www.strawpoll.me/11630031
http://www.strawpoll.me/11630031
http://www.strawpoll.me/11630031

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>>159970897

someone already tried slipping it in the suggestion folder as a "lewdton update"

shitpost

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>>159974969

[takes the bait]

>>159974969

Fuck off, Namefag.

>>159966639
Fuck off, Athena

>>159971206
Fuck off, worldmaster

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Eat your Hamburg, Germany.

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weekly reminder

Did I misread this case in AA6
It's at the revisualization stage and the revolutionary breakthrough was something like "The victim was killed by the murder weapon"

>>159980036
I bet you're referring to 6-4

U D O N

>>159980036
Yeah that's the worst thing in the entire series. The localisation has been on-point for the entire game. I had to look up what "udon" was because I simply didn't think it was real. If it had been translated as, "He was making regular noodles", I wouldn't be complaining here.

>>159983606
>for the entire game
I meant for the entire series. So sorry for not proofreading my post.

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>>159961661
>Soundposting isn't against the rules.

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>>159987209
>Clogging up the chatlog with blankposts that also play an annoying sound isn't disruptive to case building at all.

Fuck off soundposter.

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>>159987359
>Soundposter signs up for a case
>Soundposts
>"Wow you guys muted me? Lol I'm leaving enjoy building for another two hours."

You really didn't think this through did you? People who sign up for cases get diplomatic fucking immunity from any consequences because

1. Kicking people is against the rules.
2. If they're kicked people are likely going to spend more time waiting.

>>159987359
*call a mod

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>>159987295
>>159987359

You two have got to expand your reaction images folder.
You two and Ika Musume anon, too.

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>No Gina edit of awoo

Night, /aog/. Have a good one.

And thanks for the case!

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>>159966639
Church pls

>>159934186
Susato is just that italian ryu autist.

>>159966639
>another waifu

>>159999427
what about it?

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Gina is for ____

>>160010121
taking out for dinner.

Page

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>>160010121

I just finished GK2. Why was this one never brought to the west? It's a fantastic game with an equally fantastic story.

>>160017439
Capcom hates money.

On that note, area 2 is building.

>>160017439

Because GK2 is a DS game that came out in Japan the same month the 3DS launched.
If Capcom did translate the game for the west, I imagine the game would have launched in NA and Europe a year after the 3DS.
I highly doubt that Ace Attorney could have afforded something like that, like Pokémon Black 2 and White 2.

Memes?

Memes

ded game

Memes

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>>160031601

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>>>/v/357522739

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Shhhh

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>>160037338

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>>160039182

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>>160040995

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>>160045558

http://www.strawpoll.me/11638437

bork?

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>>160052786

Ten

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https://puu sh/s3APe/62d926c826.mp3

>>159962140
Trick is passive aggressive like a girl, but he's not female.

>>160063225
How do you know? :^)

>>160057017

Man, that case was fun, even if I barely remember it.

>>160063031

A brat like you...
needs to be PUNISHED properly!

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>>160070482
>Slit in the front of her skirt.

Slut! Mia Fey is a filthy office slut who wants to gobble cock for a living! She wants to be fucked silly because she's a worthless lawyer!

Slut! SLUT! WHORE!

>>160070654
Calm down, anon

Last bump from me for the night.
You are on your own now.

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>>160070654
Calm down there, man. Here, have a Snickers.
You're not you when you're hungry.

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>It's a Mia case

Come to area 2 lads this is gonna be great.

Bump from sappy microbiologist in Area 2.

>>160078889
I don't even play AO — indeed, I'm only here for the occasional talk about the games — but I really can't imagine it must be any fun playing against someone who just gives up.

>>160084558
It isn't.

Names apologists will tell you that he never gave up, but he did, and he did it a lot. The only good thing Names did was quit AO so nobody would suffer through him abandoning them for the fiftieth time.

But he also ruined Mia forever. Now everybody who plays her is a giant meme who wants to attentionfag by acting like Names.

Names was Verin before Verin was a thing.

>>160085163
>verin
Don't even mention his name. He desperately wants attention.

>There are people who are so autistic about their virtual lawyer sim that they will continue to hate and shitpost someone who left five or so cases nine months after they're gone.

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So, I know that AO has been having difficulty having good cases since some months ago, and while I was studying conservatism I think I figured out why

Here is the problem, there are certain things you can't achieve unless you stop chasing them. Because they come naturally. Yes, I know this sounds crazy but it makes sense, let me elaborate

Football players have one objective: Score goals. And as a side effect they develop friendship with their colleagues, and they also end up having tons of fun. What would happen if, when they played, they did it for the fun and friendship instead of for scoring the goals? They would not achieve anything

Let's use a college as example, a college's purpose used to be to chase knowledge and distribute it, a side effect would be that people there would be ready for the job market. Now colleges are built specifically to prepare you for the job market, and they regularly fail at that very objective. Maybe if we kept chasing our original objective, knowledge, this wouldn't happen.

Now how can we apply this to AO?

Think about what we used to chase back then and what we are chasing now.

We are like football players. We want the fun, the friendship, the good things... But we also need to score goals in order to get that. Unfortunately we gave up on scoring goals many months ago and started going to the field with the sole objective of having fun somehow, like lost sheep

Think about what we used to chase during the first two months of AO and what we are chasing today when we case... People say "Case just to have fun" but that's not how you case at all, if everyone is casing to have fun then no one is taking the case seriously and it will feel superficial and cheap

These are my two cents, think about it

>>160088697
Stop being so salty.

>>160088985
I quit AO some time ago to focus on studies, not salty

>>160089039
The only reason you'd make a post like that is because you're salty.

>>160088985
>>160089105
"Muh salt" isn't a argument. A proper argument would be more like this:

>>160088697
The thing is that sometimes other side effects develop, or never appear in the first place. As football players get friends, they would also get rivals, and while what you learn in college help you get a job, some degrees (Like the memetic Liberal Arts) doesn't provide anything useful.

The same could be said for AO cases. While playing a case to play out the roles can lead to a fun case, toxicity can breed from even the most minor annoyance, and sometimes what the other people offer means that it's possible for someone to not have fun.

After all, we don't pretend to be lawyers for anything great, we pretend to be lawyers for fun.

(Anyway one of the main problem in my mind is people being afraid of allowing fresh newbies to play in cases in the fear that they'll ruin it. The lowering player count might be a reason IMO.)

>>160088697
>>160089039
Lupa just give up on this already. As you can see from the replies no one wants to improve their game. You are wasting time with this. I know I gave up a long time ago, I just stick to this for the banter now.

>>160088697

>if everyone is casing to have fun then no one is taking the case seriously and it will feel superficial and cheap

that isn't what casing to have fun is at all, why would you assume this.

>>160088697
>He's trying to teach "muh fun muh show muh non-serious" fags how to save their dying community.

They're going to plug their ears and call you a tryhard.

>>160092128
Nowadays if you try to get even the slightest bit in-character people will take the piss out of you and just act like a shitposter, like calling Manfred a shithead when he's acting intimidating is somehow a brilliant and funny subversion of his character.

If you get invested and try your best, you're called out for being too serious. If you say you want to win because it makes for an interesting back and forth, you're called a k/dfag by people who can't keep up with you.

>>160092335

i've literally never seen another person get called a shitposter for roleplaying in my many months here

>>160092419
That's not what I said.

>Try to roleplay as your character and act reasonable with the personality you have in your mind and the role you play.
>Everyone else is just playing as a 4chan poster.
>Act like fucking idiots and kill any emotional investment

But in the most fucking bizarre twist, if you try to do anything out of the ordinary or in defiance of the meta, these same people will barrage you and try to stop whatever you do: last minute interruption, detective coming in with new evidence, stuff like that.

>>160092561

my past 9 cases have not had this at all

did you not talk to them during the case? or even post case?

>>160092561
>>160092335
I think he means a scenario like Apollo vs Manfred, where Manfred tries to intimidate the defense by threatening Apollo and Apollo starts acting all smug like "so what?" instead of damage emoting and such

at least personally this kinda thing destroys my immersion

>>160088697
The problem is that you're acting as if AO is or was ever a competitive game.
It isn't. Get over it. This idea that cases need to be taken super seriously and that players should be perfect in their roles is the very cancer killing the server.

>>160093968
Not even him but no one even said this you goddamn crybaby, the game is dying because of shitheads like you

To be honest what is "killing" the server are people being tired of casing and such. Lately it is very hard to have people joining a case because of that.

>>160094539

i imagine anyone would get tired of casing if they've been here from the start, months and months and months have passed.

>>160094616
>>160094539
I think it would breathe some fresh air if people started trying out new formats, like jury cases or class tr--- oh.

>>160094616
Also I'd like to add is that European players can't play this game because most of the cases starts way too late for them.

>>160095256
Anon let's be real, nobody wants to play anything that is not a normal case nowadays.
And if you are building something else you'll get a lot of "let's change it to a normal case" from the people who comes an the people who already signed up too.

>>160096131
well, there are some people who like to try new things out, but they're usually labeled "circlejerk" and such (which is very healthy for the game's community, truly)

>>160088697
AO was never competitive.

The problems we face are BECAUSE people don't cooperate in cases. The most obvious thing that's changed is that people don't take turns to speak any more. Every case is a talkover fest.

>>160092683
>and Apollo starts acting all smug like "so what?" instead of damage emoting and such
Oh yeah, instead of playing along, people just go
>you don't scare me out of character, tho!
in character chat, or they just counter with memes.

It goes back to the problem of people not being as cooperative as they used to be. When I first started playing (on Manfred, coincidentally) I was happy to enable other people's RP, and they mine. Not once did Apollo Justice climb on the prosecution bench and start attacking Manfred, or shoot him from across the court, in those days.

>>160098972

>The most obvious thing that's changed is that people don't take turns to speak any more. Every case is a talkover fest.

This can be mitigated by having less people on the benches or by following the proper objection system. But that requires people to actually listen.

>>160099169
>This can be mitigated by having less people on the benches or by following the proper objection system.
Absolutely.

>But that requires people to actually listen.
And nobody will, yeah. People just keep talking.

>>160100247

A good judge will enforce the system and good players will listen.

I advocate for solo prosecution and 2 people on the defense bench for most cases, as you don't need any more, and that's how most AA cases go.

>>160100796
I agree, and if people did that, then there'd be more cases because of the smaller numbers required, they'd be quicker, and I'm sure less people would instantly close the client after seeing the only active areas are full.

>>160100796
2v2 should be minimum if only for back-up purposes in case the lead prosecutor dies/has to go which does happen often.

memes?

>>160101153
Filling the benches was never the problem, though.

The main wait has always been on witnesses or, even worse, a steno.

>>160106240
How many times have you seen supports and cos fill up before witnesses, though? It happens fairly frequently.

The pure RP roles need to fill up quicker, desu

>>160108853
Even if supp/co roles were removed that doesn't mean witness roles would be taken any faster.

>>160109163
I think if you remove any role except steno, the other roles would fill quicker.

>>160109339
We should absolutely remove Support role, it's completely useless.

>>160109612
Well, now we have to convince everyone else. Removing the support field from future docs is probably the prudent way of going about it.

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/vg/'s currently playing with WE ARE LAWYER on the pitch RIGHT NOW

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>>160109995
>We are lawyer taken off

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>160110726
Almaz was and always will be a shitty meme player that circlejerkers love for that ONE case that he was good in, and his shitty /b/-tier banter.

At least nowadays people have the sense to know he's a shitter after pushing for DR cancer to get in and fucking off to the Circlejerk Court. He even leaves cases now, but nobody shits on him for that because muh The Turnabout.

>>160111186

>baiting buzzwords:the post

>>160111186

I know this is bait, but i almost wish you were right because that would mean that he's still playing...

>>160111186
While I feel that your post could be bait, I do agree with it to some extent. Almaz is a pretty awful player.

lawyers

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>>160117519

>>160095660
Eurotime cases when

d e a d

a l i v e

>>160088697

>if I pretend to know what the hell I'm talking about, people will believe me

No, no one ever chased verdicts during the first two months of AO, you're bullshitting. There were a few insufferable shitheads who did, but they were mostly relegated to pre-builts and the like.

Honestly, the idea that verdictfagging was popular early on is hilariously wrong. Do you not remember the days of

>Please, give us a verdict, any verdict besides mistrial

Because 2 out of 3 cases ended on mistrials and other bullshit. If anything, in the early days people tried to be as crazy as fucking possible, as that was how cases/players stood above the rest. Seriously, people took cases waaaayyy less seriously than we take them now, you're full of shit.

>>160133661
okay now say that in a nicer tone and it can be a discussion instead of an argument

>>160135509
What's to discuss? He's right.

>>160135641
i know but we need bumps

>>160135954
Make a poll and find out.

>>160135509

Sorry, it's just that the dude was passing off something completely false as true. There's not much to discuss, he's just wrong.

Controversial opinion to bump thread?

I've been here since the server started, and besides a rough patch in the summer, I think case quality is on an upward trend and the last three cases I've been in have been very enjoyable. The reason the population is getting lower is because it's always been getting lower, this has become a game that needs eight hours set aside from the get-go to enjoy, so it's obviously very, very niche and people get tired of it faster than new people get hooked. There's no great AO problem that needs solving besides, maybe, getting newer people faster.

>>160143983
I like putting time limits to trials for like a 4-hour cases but people never like doing that.

>>160145165

The reason people don't like that is because it slants the board hugely in the Prosecution's favor. The Defense is usually on the backfoot until the very tail-end, so if they have never get to the point because of a time limit, it's an ez guilty.

Also, time limits tend to push people to go faster and miss things.

>>160146301
For the first point, we have penalties for a reason. Second point, true.

>>160147704

How would penalties solve the first point? I didn't mean Prosecution specifically trying to draw out the trial, moreso that a slow WPM or methodical CE's can fuck a Defense if they're on a time limit.

Time limits CAN work out fine, but there's always the possibility that a good case gets cut short. Hell, I can think of few top-tier cases that were shorter than four hours.

>>160146301
Not him, but no. Time limits work if you have competent people. That shitters can't organise themselves and use their time doesn't mean it's a flawed remedy. We used to have shorter cases, and the defense fucked up just as much, if not less, than they do now. A year ago, when cases approached four hours, we all wound it down and thought
>it needs to end soon

When we had short cases, people didn't talk over eachother. It's almost as if the level of courtesy shown by players in a case is inversely proportional to how long a case will take.

Also, why is it that people want change, but half of you shoot down every suggestion as being
>waahh, it hurts
>muh pressure
>not enough time!!!11
>muh bantz
You fucking pussies. If you don't try it, and keep trying it until these newshitters and handful of old people with bad habits that never got worked out get used to it, nothing will change. And bantz is a cancer. Only a few characters do what people call "bantz", and it's definitely not this common. The other big problem, apart from cases taking so long, is shit RP in this form.

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>>160148891
Fuck off Names, bantz are the best part of AO. I love with when Almaz calls everyone a faggot in the middle of a case.

>>160149221
>implying implications
Or it could be that bantz is, in fact, cancer.

>>160149221
>everyone is Names meme XDDD
Ladies and gentleman, the cancer who likes the status quo.

At least with Names, I knew for sure, that the case would end before dinner.

>>160149623
If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen faggot.

>>160149725
>Calls someone out for the everyone is Names meme
>Immediately makes a "lol Names is bad XD" joke

The pot calling the kettle black desu.

>>160149810
In the end will be just you playing, if he did that, I did that, and everyone else did that.

If that time comes, I hope you enjoy your circlejerk of toxic people, where cases take 12 hours and you sit and meme at eachother.

>>160149926
I was referring to the fact that he didn't engage much in banter during cases, outside of defending himself. I prosecuted him a lot, and it was always a rogue co or support mouthing off and wasting everyone's time.

>>160149810
It's not fucking heat, it's people being retards when I just wanted a case.

As that guy's demonstrated
>muh bantz
>muh memes
>muh you're Names and that other guy needs to get out of the kitchen!
>muh nothing works
All show that some people just aren't willing to put any effort into changing the meta.

>>160147882
>moreso that a slow WPM or methodical CE's can fuck a Defense if they're on a time limit.
While the first is a legitimate problem, the second can be solved if defense doesn't take an age and a half to crawl through the testimony. Hell, it's even detrimental to the defense - if you give a competent player enough time, they'll figure out the contradiction and make a rebuttal. By going for it immediately, you make it harder on the opposition to explain it - meaning that you have a better chance of convincing people.

>>160147882
>>160152203
The defense problem and the mention crawling by the second anon can be partly if not wholly explained away - a habit's developed since forever, but has gotten prevalent recently, of thinking deeply of information, as you get it.

You think deeply once you've pressed everything. Then you go for the contradiction. You're allowed to hear the testimony again, we used to do it a lot more often. It's just that, when you waste half an hour on each statement, like we do now, people won't let you - because you made the poor decision to do your deliberation before you heard everything, and now nothing makes sense to you, because you considered each statement independently of the testimony and case as a whole.

You're going to press everything anyway, to hear everything, so you might as well do it properly, and get all the information first, before deliberating and pondering. If it takes you five minutes instead of an hour just to press, that gives you plenty of time to think. The prosecution will happily let you hear the testimony again. The way some defense players play - the
>If we don't talk about this line for half an hour now, we'll never know if it's the contradiction, Scoob!
method, the steno might as well not exist, and the whole "It's your cross examination, defense, do your little song and dance." feature of AA might as well not exist. Outside of Manfred endgame RP, you're allowed to hear a testimony more than once.

And of
>slow WPM
I'm a very, very slow typist, so I used to just prewrite your questions during the initial testimony giving when I cased played defense. It helped a lot with keeping up. It's getting steno'd, so you should just go ahead and write questions or make notes if you're a slow typist. Maybe if you're a quick typist, it'd help too, although I doubt it'd help as much as it helps slow.

>when you spend more time spriting than casing
Good night, thread. I hope you survive the night.

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>It's a competent Mia episode

>>160157005
I'm convinced that people who relentlessly shit on Mia players hate attractive and confident women due to personal experiences

>>160157246

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

namu is gay

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Haven't played since January
What have I missed?

>>160167269
A lot of new updates and new case formats. Also, a lot of people complaining about almost everything.

>>160167518
>a lot of people complaining about almost everything
Wasn't this always the case though?

>>160163097
quit namesdropping, Cerise

>>160168094
Fuck off Names.

>>160167559
It was and it is. Just saying what he has been missing.

>>160149221
There's a difference between 'bantz' and 'constantly interrupting everyone to make a lame joke because you think you're funnier than you really are but just end up extending the case by several hours because you won't shut the fuck up' which is what a lot of people do.

I'm not surprised Americans don't understand the concept of banter.

>>160173924
Fuck off Names

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>>160175413

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>>160177882

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>>160188258

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>>160190007

Reminder that girls don't actually play this game and you are a desperate loser if you think otherwise.

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>>160192209

>>160192209
t. a girl trying to fool us so that they can overthrow us in our weakened state

>>160194920

Haha don't be silly fellow caser, we don't want to overthrow you.

>>160197034
I see through your ruse

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>>160199102

This is a manly game for males only.
Girls, please, fuck off.

>>160204209
Okay.

Greg here. Shouldn't be too long before I'm back. Sorry for the wait

Nahyuta here, still working on avenging my fallen family from the neighborhood lynching that happened last month.

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IT'S ME, MOE THE CLOWN.

>>160207372
Fuck Lucina

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>This Judge in area 2

>>160210660
I would. Lovingly and tenderly.

This Lucina is played by Gina steno however, so she is for pure and not lewd.

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-rokos-basilisk-2014-8

>>160211490
will you fuck off with this cult of personality bullshit

>>160214080
Fuck off Names.

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>>160215058
That's actually pretty nice.

>>160218397
Why didn't you protect his smile ao?

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>>160214080
Reminder that Gina steno is a dumb SLUT that is for BULLY.

>>160220385
You're not wrong, just an asshole

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>>160220662
>Reminder that Gina steno is a dumb SLUT that is for BULLY.

>>160223761
>You will never shove your baguette down Gina steno's mouth.

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Bump with one last thing for tonight

What a case to come back to the defense bench to. I'd like to thank everyone in that trial, from the Ray who was a steady support for most of the case, to the fantastic Nagito putting us on his ruse cruise, the Sebastian who put the pressure on to make me defend even harder, and the Holmes judge whose M A D M A N judging ideas helped the case feel fresh. It may have been a guilty verdict, but it was a guilty that felt like it was properly earned.

Good job all around

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>adam gets drunk and starts molesting people in OOC because he turned 30

it's a good thing it isn't lewdton's birthday

Area 2 needs witnesses.

>>160235836
What's with history teachers getting smashed on their 30th and drunk posting?

I remember my history teacher did the same thing.

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>>160235836
Speaking of Lewdton, check out this picture of the manager of /aog/'s memeball team

>>160236830
>United States
But Lewdton is a Scot

>>160236924
I'm sorry. I'll go scream at the person who did this until they fix it

>>160237072
They were literally one word off.
>States
>Kingdom

>>160238163
Okay, I'll just yell at them until they fix it

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>>160238689
Did they fix it

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>>160243002
ye I did
we're playing in three weeks give or take, shit's due today though. decided to add this in for fun.

>>159864851
guys?

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>>160254046

Ten.

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>>160259063

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>>160235836
>hey guys look at me I drunk a whole beer XDD sooo drunk maaan wolololo

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>>160263969

>wololo

Memes?

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>prosecution and witnesses having a piratepad

Would you play AA7 if it was called Athena Cykes: Ace Attorney, featured Lana Skye as the main prosecutor and Ema Skye as the main detective?

We need a detective and a steno in area 2.

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>>160268323
That's it... time to finish you!
*teleports behind you*
OBJECTION!
*unsheathes 100 page pre-written rebuttal*
TAKE THAT!
*penalizes you ten times*
Heh... too easy.
Verdict, your honor?

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>>160269081

>not using dante for that post

>>160268375
If by 'play' you mean 'masturbate furiously to' then yes.

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>>160271694
I don't see why Lana would prosecute but sure

>>160272721
meant for >>160268375 duh

>>160272821
Because she hasn't been seen since Rise from the Ashes and I want another female prosecutor who doesn't define herself by a whip.

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>>160268375
Addendum: Trucy is your defense assistant.

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>>160273017

>My dick

Post m-more

>>160272883
Lana was a detective who never wanted to be chief prosecutor. I doubt she'd take up the job.

>>160273017
>Trucy
Change that to Maya or Pearl and we're gucci.

We've updated the rules to try and clean them up a bit and make them more understandable.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K6QrAqzZmnrBSFTh7XP8Ztk0McLABjmZTL3orFKsZNU/edit

If you have any questions or suggestions, please let us know.

Business idea:

We shitpost anyone who wants to do detective requests.

>>160274249
but muh meta

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>>160279249

>This area 2 clusterfuck

Oh lawd

>27 people in area 2
>open roles
Really wiggles your brainbits

>>160285858
It's almost like people don't want to case anymore.

>Live in Eurohours
>Cases don't start until like 10pm
help

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>>160288749

>>160285858
Cause the game is getting stale and boring

>>160291962
You're stale and boring.

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>>160294296

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>>160301587

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>It's a Hat won't stop turning off the jukebox and being a pissy bitch for no reason episode

>>160303979
So why stoop to their level and shitpost about them? This isn't any less productive, you know.

>four dangits and a persona shitposting nonstop during building

>>160306052

there is no need to be this upset phoenix, you were interrupting case building even more.

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>>160306052

>this guy called a mod and they didn't even heed him

>>160306052
>phoenix shitposting about dangits and not helping to case build