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All hail the king edition.

>What's new?

Two new heroes, Varian and Ragnaros announced at Blizzcon, along with a new brawl map and a couple of new skins.

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20327398/new-heroes-and-more-announced-at-blizzcon-2016-11-4-2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4900jOY8cCM

>Latest patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20324866/balance-update-october-10-25-2016

>Upcoming patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20352063

>Where do I find you big human cock loving faggots?
/join /vg/

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked. It's not worth it.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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I care more about having fun than doing well in high-level games. Recommend me the most fun hero in your opinion in each of the four categories. I always see people talking about the "best" but some heroes can be pretty dull.
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>159854581
>there is still an autismo in the thread that actually gives a fuck about reddit
>they won't even use a trip so you can't filter them
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>>159854632
Subjective and multiple fun heroes in each category.

Try playing the game and finding them out yourself--like everybody else.
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>>159854671
It's just become a habit at this point, and the guy who originally came up with it enjoys that I keep up with it. I'm the one who provided the picture though, so I like to think of it as a joint collaboration.

I also made the thread this time because nobody else was going to.
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>>159854671
>there are people who try to defend and justify people ratting out and ruining people like axolotl
Maybe you should actually follow through with your reaction image.
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>>159854678
I've dabbled in many heroes during free weeklies but I've been saving up for some of the 10k ones like Loeric, so I don't have a ton of them at the moment. Some of the more complex heroes require being good with them to be fun so I just thought someone who spends a lot of time with a specific character might want to recommend them or something. Just stimulating discussion.
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>>159854741
don't worry, i probably will once i lose one more game
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>>159854739
>tfw I'm the one who originally made it
>tfw the person who keeps reposting it each thread and actually accurately tells the truth
das
it
mane

Also, Doom 4 is fucking AWESOME.
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>>159854825
Well I really enjoy unorthodox heroes. I have a lot of games played with insanely high winrates with "bad" heroes like Gazlowe. Yet majority of people sit their ball-sack on FoTM/OP/Meta assassin heroes.
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>>159854656
Right here unfortunately.
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>>159855286
>was away for weeks when that skin went on sale
JUST
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Anyone wanna play a game on EU?

It's 7 in the morning and I just wanna play some quick match or unranked draft.
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>>159855179
I have a 71% winrate with Gazlowe in diamond league and I can legitimately say at least 25% of the games I lose are solely because of teammates tilting at the pick.

People just obsess over the pro meta so much when it's blatantly wrong to apply it to hero league
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>>159854825
>>159855179
personally ive played alot of heroes but none really hit so good as Tassadar did

there is always that one Hero you find that you are just good and have fun with
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>>159855372
Yeah, agreed. I play other "meme" heroes (and do extremely well with) such as Azmo, Abathur and Nova. That's one huge thing HotS has over all other ASSFAG, is the balance and reliability of being good with a hero, where even if they're not "m-muh meta" you can still pump.

>>159855414
Tass' is considered mediocre (he needs some serious talent work) but is still a decent hero and I also really enjoy him (got him to level 9 quickly) but he isn't awful and can be fantastic.
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>>159854632
rexxar
tychus (probably just because of the voice lines desu)
brightwing
abathur


>>159855314
black friday sale coming up fampai
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>>159855543
I find it really hard to click with Brightwing. From what I played a lot of your contribution is just being alive and vaguely close to the rest of your team, and the voice lines are annoying as fuck. Seems useful enough but I don't know how people can tolerate the VA.
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Would you Hammer a Bama?
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Are accounts shared from EU to US? with the upcoming "play 30 games and get goodies" promotion i found a friend that'll do it with me but he's on US and i don't know if i'll get the stuff on my eu account
I know overwatch shares skins and progression but never tried it with hots
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>>159855778
tough luck m8
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>>159855778
I don't think so. I claimed that mechanospider mount a few days ago and it made me choose which server I wanted it on.
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>>159855630
i like her voice lines but thats personal taste, just turn it off if its that bad

the main reason i like brightwing is that the healing is pretty passive, and i can focus on stuff that interests me more, like cc, dps, shielding people. theres a lot of room to play more aggressively as long as you're vaguely close to your team.

also global heroes make me wetter than the amazon
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>>159855820
>>159855825
that's too bad then
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>>159855831
I actually really enjoying healing with Kharazim. I know it's not the most optimal but if we're just talking about fun builds, having him heal passively while you pummel the fuck out of everything you see is fun. You can just start beating on walls or whatever if there's nothing around and you need some healing. You can contribute to your team quite a lot by being aggressive. You're not going to win in numbers but it's rewarding to play IMO.
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>>159855970
i like kharazim too because of just that reason, but i don't play him much because i play a lot of tanks, so i tend to overestimate how much brawling you can do on kharazim before you feed

playing ranged characters keeps me in check and with a low death count
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I want to play a character with a sword. Outside of Varian, what are my options?
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>>159856115
He can be tough to use well, I'm terrible with him still but I'm going to stick with it. I've found if you don't get hits in constantly and reliably the rest of the team will finish off targets before you can get enough hits in to heal much, so you always need to be in the thick of it even though he can't take too much damage. Merc camps can be useful punching bags to top everyone up before a push, as well as letting the rest of your team leave fort walls behind if you need a safe target.
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>>159856248
Greymeme
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>>159856248
arthas has a toy sword
tyrael throws his sword at people
sonya has two swords
raynor has a sword on his gun
vikings also throw their swords at people
leoric has a sword that is fat at the end and not sharp
butcher has a meat sword i guess but all swords are for meat so idk
illidan ____________nevermind lol
samuro has 3 swords or wait is it only1 fuck i need glasses
greymane has a gun and a sword
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Is it just me or is Tracer underpowered?
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>>159856404
all you
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>>159856404
Just you
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>>159856404
not a shitter friendly hero
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>>159856404
A good Tracer is annoying as fuck. She works similarly to her Overwatch playstyle in that she chips at you just enough that you want to drop what you're doing and focus her. If you ignore her and tank the damage you'll definitely suffer but she can get away faster than you can take her out most the time. Don't try and be ultra-high DPS with her
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So Varian can be Prot, Arms, or Fury. That's pretty fucking amazing.

HOWEVER, can he a Gladiator (rest in peace) as well? This may determine whether or not I buy him day one.
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>>159856404
like >>159856546 said she works exactly as in overwatch
If you're bad at her you're just dead weight and if you're good you'll make all the players in the enemy team want to kill themselves
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>>159856248
Artanis and Alarak have space swords.
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What can I do for you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8wI3UCRjWM

For the Alliance.
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>>159856760
Just for $9 you can indeed be a gladiator.
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How is Alarak? I'm tempted purely for the Cthulhu skin.
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>>159857256
Good hero. Easy to get into with a decent skill ceiling while being a simple enough hero.

The N'Zoth skin is poor, sadly. Looks way too fat and unpolished.
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>>159857256
Just like Kerrigan, but I would say easier and a bit more versatile, but without the ability to combo multiple people, and lock somebody down.
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>>159856904
>Ragnaros's screen is going to be in the Volcano and your going to see Varian's ship in the background.
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>>159857340
>Alarak
>Easier than Kerri
Questionable. Kerri is insanely strong, retard-proof and easy to land combo when they made the AoE of them far larger.
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>>159857340
You forgot the part where he also doesn't have to put himself in danger to be useful and has way better sustain.

Also his abilities are more than just useful than in a combo and have a lot of different ways they can be used. Telekinesis is way better than Kerrigan pull.
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>>159857256
legit funnest melee assassin in the game, he's a kerrigan that can poke and with a combo that cant be dodged, does more damage, but silences instead of stuns

meta as fuck too, so nows the time to play him
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>>159857447
>They are buffing his lightning again.

Why?
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ragnaros can be a keep?
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>>159858135
Forts and Keeps, yeah. He even has his own separate health pool when he does it, and he substitutes the building for himself, meaning he acn soak damage for the building form objectives, minions, enemy heroes, etc.
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>>159854465

>not BIG HUMAN COCK edition

One job, OP.
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>>159858470
I was going to, then I realized I'm tired of hearing it.

If there's a next time, I'll do it.
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>>159858470

Again, why are you trying to force this meme? It lasted a week and it was never really funny. Mediocre.
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>>159859292
>stop enjoying what I don't enjoy reeee
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>>159859671
fucking kids these days
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>>159854465
The best and cutest healer coming through
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i hate varian
i hated that stupid character in wow and now i dont play it they kill it and dump it here
fuck you blizzard
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>>159861792
What's wrong about him anyway? Never played WoW.
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>>159861792
I give absolutely no fucks about any Alliance character, aside from Greymane, because none of them have ever seemed interesting to me aside from him.

Seeing that Varian will be able to spec to be a Protection, Arms, AND Fury Warrior, instantly makes me extremely happy to have him. I think his kit is absolutely fucking awesome, and I don't see how anyone who loves Warrior couldn't love Varian. SO, I say that to say that I'm pretty turned around on the guy. Never gave a shit about him in WoW, but I'm really liking him in HotS, and that's actually kind of bleeding a bit into WoW, in that I actually kinda wanna read about him a bit now.

And even though I just straight up hate the Alliance, the fact that he has Alliance representation all over him, ESPECIALLY on that Master skin of his, is pretty fucking rad. I wish the Horde had somebody like taht, but then again, there's no single character that could rep the entirety of the Horde in the way Varian reps the Alliance. In my opinion anyway.
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>>159862334

But the Horde already has someone like Varian.
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>Samuro
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>>159862334
You obviously don't know squat about Varian so why bother lay out your uneducated opinion?
He does not in any shape or form represent the Alliance as much as you described, he represents it well, but not fully.
His story is much more elaborate and interesting than most horde ""characters""", objectively, that is.
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>last 10 (confirmed) hero releases
6 from wow
2 from overwatch
1 from starcraft
1 literally who from diablo 3

why is this allowed guys?
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>>159863213
>0 from hearthstone
ded
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>>159863213
>1 literally who from diablo 3

Which one was that?
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>>159863213
>1 literally who from diablo 3
Ain't nothing better than diablo fanboy tears,
you faggots have shat onto this game for long enough.
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Does buying diablo3 get me any hots goodies?
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What are some hots youtubers? btw if u like mfpallytime ur gay
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>>159863213
Honestly, all of the Overwatch and Diablo heroes feel tacked on. They add nothing to the game and you can tell with pretty much all of them that they were made with memes in mind rather than quality.

>>159863706
HawkrayTV
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>>159863771
>HawkrayTV
reddit pls go
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>>159863213
cry moar bitch boy
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>>159863318
>you faggots have shat onto this game for long enough.
and yet blizzard keep doing shit with this game without giving a fuck about its community.
Sometimes I dont' understand blizzard.
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>>159863905
they're like Square Enix, they don't understand that nobody cares about some autist's passion projects like Diablo or the Xth final fantasy 13 sequel prequel gaiden game.
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>Diablo
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>>159864154
>overshit
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>>159863295
Auriel
She was literally only added because muh female angel. She's completely irrelevant and has like 2 minutes of screen time in Diablo 3
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>>159861474
Her China skin is one of the few China skins I haven't regretted purchasing.

I don't know why I thought Lunar Chen was worth while. I like the coin, but other than barrel, there isn't really themed abilities. Even China Illidan has more.
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>>159863337
It might still give you Diablo.
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>>159864714
Love it.
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So, what's the deal with Mystic Kingdoms Arthas? I like the jade effect, but I don't really get it otherwise.
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>>159863337
no. Just buy diablo 2, it's less expensive and have more content with a better replay value
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>>159864384
Tyreal is just a quest giver and the only nondiablo3 class hero is Xul if you don't count the demons.
All of the Starcraft heroes are the recent shit, too.
Blizzard isn't trying to appeal to the crowd that's already in deep enough that they know Guy Montag was actually a hero in those shitty side missions or understanding the cow level meme. They're throwing out flashier shit that'll get people interested in the games they still work on so they can sell some more of those expansions they won't stop putting out.
I'm surprised the Innkeeper isn't a hero yet.

>>159865212
What's the deal with half the shit they crank out?
All of them are what-ifs that mesh terribly with the basic ability animations 70% of the time.
I know this game is basically a side project but if they put half as much time into the balance and new heroes as they did their legendary skins then maybe I wouldn't have 4 minute queue times.
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>>159865212
>"we want the chinese audience"
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]exaltedbythesunSupport 5 points an hour ago
This is easily fixed by not setting foot, ever, on that forum. For your own sanity. This subreddit is the best place to discuss HotS, but even /hotsg/ on fucking 4chan would be better than the official forum.
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>>159865739
The hots subreddit is the shittiest one I've ever seen
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>>159865739
Why do you reposting reddit posts here?
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>>159865739
>on fucking 4chan
I'm still amazed at how redditors try to perpetuate this whole rivalry thing between these two sites.
Are they that lonely that they need to make out anonymoose to be some big bad guy that they outclass constantly?
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>>159865593
Eh. I doubt it. I love the skins. They stole so much money from me like that.
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>>159865739
The subreddit is just for crying about times people are toxic in hots, not for actually discussing the game.
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>>159865983
People think of 4chan as a cesspit, Reddit or not. They don't realize that it is literally just a forum with no usernames.
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>>159865593
b-but diablo 2 got 4 patches this year and ladder reset will be in 2 weeks
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>>159865739

This place is fucking trash to talk anything about the game. There is no structure or real discussion to be done. There aren't people whose opinions are worth anything AT ALL. If you think otherwise you are delusional.

The best place to talk about the game is fucking Reddit since the official forums are complete garbage. The upvote system actually works, filtering shitty discussions into the more relevant ones. It triggers all of your autism to see your opinion downvoted, but you gotta deal with it, your ideas were trash and nobody liked it. DEAL WITH IT.
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>>159866719
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>>159866719
Hi, redditor.
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>>159866719
You could always start a discussion, make your opinion count, without being a pussy ass babyman wimp about it. Then again, I wouldn't care for shit what a low IQ suck-at-games loser like you had to say.
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>>159867395
im gm noob
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>>159867457
look out, you're GRIND MASTER

LIKE RANK MEANS ANYTHING IN THIS DEAD CASUAL GAME LOL
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>>159867395
come on it wasn't even good bait
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>>159867508
Welcome to the board, brother!
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>wiped enemy team
>instead of going core lets just get some mercs and clear some minions :p
What did my team mean by this?
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>>159867621
>Hello, this is forced 50 speaking, the enemy team will use the first chance they get to end the game
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>>159867676
Forced 50 is a meme, I have played 700-800 games and my winrate is actually 51% :^)
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>>159867871
Can confirm forced 50 is a meme, I have played over 2000 games and my winrate is under 35%.
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>Heroes of the Storm dev issues a challenge to fans: Share your Deckard Cain designs

This games needs you /hotsg/, you need to help them creating Deckard Cain. Share your best ideas
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>>159867962
>those stupid memers still want Deckard Cain
>how the fuck are we supposed to make this old faggot
>fuck it, let them do the work
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>>159867923
wtf i hate this board now
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>>159867923
Doesnt that kind of motivate you to stop playing?
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>>159867962
Literally give him ETCs kit and be off with it.

Q: Ass rams people
W: Farts
E: Talks to self
R: Forces you to listen for 4 seconds
R2: He gets catapulted
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>>159868191
>R2: He gets catapulted
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>>159867962
>Cain the most requested hero from Diablo

I fucking hate people.

How is Cain more requested than Baal and Mephisto?

Is it because Blizzard is still focused on ignoring Diablo II in favor of III?
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>>159868398
>how is one piece of shit more requested than another two?
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>>159868398
Everybody knows cain
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>>159868398
Memes. We'll also be getting the D3 Diablo so that's nice.

The game needs more villains.
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>>159854465
op plz

DO NOT BUY ANY OF THE FOLLOWING HEROES!

DO NOT BUY ANY OF THE FOLLOWING HEROES!


>Auriel
>Greymane
>Kerrigan
>Li-Ming
>Zarya

They will be given out for free between November 15 and January 4.

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20327397/team-up-to-conquer-the-nexus-challenge-11-4-2016
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>>159868570
>The game needs more villains.
Which is why it's ridiculous Diablo has so few of them? Just about all the important characters are villains and we don't even have the Prime Evils yet.

Watch them include Adria, Maghda and Zoltun Kulle before any Diablo II boss just because of Blizzard's ridiculous infatuation with Diablo III
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>>159868398
Fuck diablo. Fenix, overmind, duke and kel'thuzad never.
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>>159868918
I hope Fenix never happens. Fuck identical protoss.

Unless he's a vehicle, but at this point they can't do that to him any more. Fucking hell.
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>>159868570
>We'll also be getting the D3 Diablo so that's nice.
Source me
Need them demon tits.

>>159868868
>Maghda
>worst boss fight
>"The demon lord of LIES would never LIE TO ME"
If anyone wants Maghda they must be impaired or have absolute shit taste.
At least Kulle had a semblance of a personality.
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>>159869028
>Unless he's a vehicle, but at this point they can't do that to him any more
Wait, what?

I always pictured Fenix would be a dragoon hero.

Same way Kerrigan is only a zerg.
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>>159868802
>implying people here have friends
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>>159863213
I want Malthael, Protos probe (why the fuck not, stealth support), Onyxia, Deckard Cain, Akama, Kel'thuzad, and i wanted Grom (but we got Samuro so i don't think it's going to happen).
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>>159869089
Admittedly I haven't played Starcraft, but I heard a lot of crying about that suggestion before.
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>>159869270
Also Baal. Forgot.
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>>159869072
It's happening. Not more than a few months away.
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>>159869295
>hasn't played starcraft
you need to hurry up play it, it's already 18 years old
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>>159869295
>>159869089


> I hate it but like I haven't played XD

Fucking millennials thinking their opinions are relevant. Worst kind of dork.
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>>159869676
Hey, all I care about is this game right here. The other games can suck my vag.

Except Warcrafts until 3 and Diablo.
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OFFICIAL LITERALLY WHO LIST.
Daily reminder that these irrelevant nobodies have taken priority and space over your favourite ones.

>Murky
>Brightwing
>Lunara
>Stitches
>Greymane
>Gazlowe
>E.T.C
>Sgt. Hammer
>Lt. Morales
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>>159870346
>Greymane
>Gazlowe
They are more important than the rest.
And Stitches is Pudge
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>>159870346
you forgot auriel
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>>159870346
greymane doesn't belong on that list, everything else is fine
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>>159870346
Wait, you just basically wrote up my "iwtf" list.
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>>159870346
>>159870482
Retards
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OFFICIAL MUST HAVE LIST

>Grom/Garrosh
>Archimonde
>Mannoroth
>Tichondrius/Mal'ganis
>Kel'Thuzad
>Cairne
>Maiev
>Zul'jin
>Mephisto
>Baal
>Deckard Cain
>Fenix
>Mengsk
>The Overmind
>Amon
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>>159870554
>Maiev
>Anon
otherwise that's a pretty good list desu, amon
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>>159870635
Amon the hacker.
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>>159870554
>Zul'jin
DIS WUZ OUR LAND, TROLL LAND
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>>159867962

What did Dickard even do in Diablo outside of be an old worthless cunt?
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>>159870696
Literally coming after Ragnaros too.

This. Year.
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>>159870554
>Amon
>before OG starcraft crew
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>>159870482
>Greymane
Didn't exist before Cataclysm, the least popular leader, armor on worgen looks ridiculous.

Also I forgot to add Li Li to the list
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>>159870783
Li Li's chill tho.
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>>159870783
>Didn't exist before Cataclysm
He was around since WC2.
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>>159870554
>stukov ??
>D2 dudu ??
>D2 assassin ??
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>>159870872
>dudu
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>>159870726
he is the last horadrim, his father captured Diablo and he was supposed to keep an eye on the soul stone.
In Diablo 1 and Diablo 2 he talks to you about the lore, tells you what to do, identify your items and travels with you from town to town
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>>159870747
It won't be until mid January like Greymane. Blizzard goes on vacation for like all of December.
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>>159870635
>Not wanting Maiev
Absolutely betrayer

>>159870872
I admit I forgot Stukov, he's a must-have, too.

I think Baal, Mephisto and Cain (and probably Malthael) should come before the D2 playable classes, but the dudu would be great.
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>>159870964
>never played diablo 2
only comment on things you actually know about m8
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>>159870635
>anon in hots
Q: faps to target, dmg attack and slowed by sticky sperm
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>>159871564
>never played diablo 2
or
>never wanted to use the term that is used by 14 year olds

which one
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>>159856395
I think I might go with Arthas, since I loved WC3. I even picked Anub'Arak as my starting hero in HotS. How does Arthas stack up?
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>>159871694
all the 40 year old grandpas who play diablo 2 still use this term
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>>159870554
>No Overwatch waifus
pretty shit desu senpai
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>>159871820
ill just use the term thats used by normal people, the game itself and not 15 and 40 year olds, thank you
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>>159871953
>morales cucked mercy out of the game
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>>159871953
>D.va
>Sombra
>Pharah
>Symmetra

I am so ready for some waifus
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>>159870554
>no andariel
>no zakarum paladin
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>>159870554
bretty guud

Needs Stukov instead of Amon
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>>159872382
need some widow booty to go with my tyrande booty
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>>159873194
Never. Noba is your widowmaker.
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>>159873194
>tfw nova gets the best skins with widowmaker and amazon
>hate playing nova
fucking blizzard
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>>159873930
>widowmaker skin looks nothing like widowmaker
ebin design :DD
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>>159871186

I didn't ask who WAS deckard cain. I asked what did he do in the Diablo franchise.

The answer isn't debatable. He sat around like an old worthless cunt.
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>>159874404
>purple suit
>blue skin
>spider visor

Comtesse is not her real skin anon.
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>>159875416
Ever actually seen Widowmaker, anon? S t e p i t u p

By your logic,
Tychus and Raynerd are the exact same.
>white
>terran armour
>fire arm
>blue armour
hurrrrrrrrrr
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>>159859671
This doesnt apply if youre just shoving it down everyones throat and only you think its funny because youre fucking 15 you buzzword spouting insufferable infant
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>>159872382
>Gazlowe is garbage, lets put a even shittier version of him in.
>>
>get literally sub-10 FPS in game for some reason (thankfully just an AI game so not the end of the world)
>kill the battle.net process in task manager
>immediately reverts to normal FPS
What the fuck is your shitty client doing, Blizzard?
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>>159876236
V-voice chat
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>didn't play for a few month
>come back and jump in a brawl
>get Alarak
>mfw all this damage

alright, how viable is he in HL ?
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>>159867962
Carbot's kit for him was cool, but they ended up stealing most of it for Medivh.
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>>159876528
Very.
He's one of the strongest heroes current in the game BUT he's balanced by you actually needing to be good with him.

The only problematic thing with him balance-wise though is probably his lane sustain and overall tankiness. A small nerf to both will make him fine.
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>>159876528
Highly situational unless you're absolutely top tier of a player with him in particular.
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>>159875476
They basically are. I can't believe they put them both in the game. They are basically palette swaps in the first game.
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>>159872382
doubt we'll ever get symmetra
>gaz has turrets
>tassadar has shields
>medivh has portals
we didn't get widowmaker solely because she's using a sniper rifle even though she's nothing like nova, otherwise
sombra sounds kinda dumb too
>another stealth hero with blink
>silence as regular skill and as ult

d.va and pharah would probably fit in though
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>>159876236
background downloading maybe ?
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>>159876528
One of the best heroes in the game right now. Can 1v1 almost any one in lane because of his sustain and can punish anyone even slightly out of position.
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>>159876823
>lose Sombra and Symmetra
>get D.va and Pharah

Most fapped waifus, it's okay with me
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>>159876753
They are buffing his sustain, and they aren't going to nerf him because his win rate isn't impressive.
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>>159877031
>retards that probably FP nova/illidan when they aren't sucking at alarak tanked the winrate of arguably the second strongest hero in the game hard enough for him to get buffed
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>tfw game is over at the 5 minute mark
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>>159877669
how the fuck did that happen
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>>159877758
tyrande came up with the grand plan of "building an army" so we basically took all of the merc camps on bot while Xul farmed top
enemy team tried to fight back but they got shat on, plus we already had like 3 minion waves and four giants still up
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>>159877669
>the other team paid the 10 coins while the other team was pushing cure
yeah i can see how that happened
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>>159877931
actually it was us who paid
didn't even end up mattering though
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>>159877931
>0/10
>the other team paid
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>>159877669
let me guess.. AI ?
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>>159876823
Even though she's nothing like widow? She's a femme fetale brainwashed assassin in latex body suit who snipes people. I get they could've done something with venom mines and her grappling hook, but don't pretend they aren't basically appealing to the same people.

We need more unique characters from Overwatch like robots or gorillas.
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>>159878738
Apparently Master HL. I wish I was kidding.
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>>159878870
>appealing
i was talking gameplay and they're not alike at all, what with nova's invisibility, decoys and precision strikes
even their auto attacks could be different since widowmaker has an assault rifle with sniper mode
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>>159877927
what were the other three heroes on your team
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>>159877669
>letting the enemy have xul and sylvanas on bhb
deserved loss
>>
>>159879178
etc, sylvanas and tychus
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>>159879178
the fucking screenshot was posted
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>>159879079
Sure, but so would Reyhardt or Zenyatta or anyone. There is no shortage of kits.
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>>159879352
im a dirty phoneposter and i couldnt tell who was under the giant spark ;)))

>>159879190
hes right though i would have just dodged
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>5 minute QM queues

Fucking christ.
>>
Thingy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_1vmDm7uF4
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>>159879759
just had a 11 minute UD Q
DED
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>>159879826
Old and busted.
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>>159879630
exactly my point, seeing how we get characters like that as skins, i doubt we'd get characters with lots of copy-paste abilities in the game
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>>159879826
God, I want to sniff Lunara's ass.

Too bad I don't feel good about paying for skins.
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>>159879826
Lunara is cute cute CUTE!!!

That marauder muradin is great too.
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>>159880264
I remember when that same muradin skin was the ONLY skin for him. Fucking hell the hotstalgia, I thought they had discarded it.
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>>159879826
the horns on that malfurion skin look like shit
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>>159879826
WHERE IS MY FUCKING WARBEAR FUCK
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>>159879826
>>159880264
That Muradin looks pretty shit, but god those spell animations are the best!
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>>159880576
Yeah, what sold me on it was how he shoots his stormbolt
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>>159876236
I just set my b.net to close when I fire up a game
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>>159880264
I like how there is a hole for her little tale to pop out from with a bell on it.
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>>159876823
What about Reinhardt?

>q is firestrike
>w is charge
>e toggles his shield to block projectiles
>r is hammer down
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>>159881068
I bet it rings when she farts.
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>>159881068
I would definitely use that third recolor
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>>159879826
Hey, they added my OC as a mount!
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>>159881425
They added your moms son to be mounted you piece of shit
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>>159879826
Those custom effects on Malf look pretty sick. About time he gets some more skins.
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You know this games been out for idk how long but yet to add the Diablo 3 skin for Diablo

Did they realize it was that bad that no one wanted it?
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>>159879826
There is no tint in the game that changes animations, right? Is that why all the Rags are Orange, Red and Light Orange? Because otherwise they'd have to edit like, every ability he has?

I like that they all get Light Orange. I'm gonna be Lil' Rag the Lightlord.
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>>159879826
>that Lil' Ragnaros dance
\m/
>>159881984
they said at blizzcon that it's almost ready
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>>159881984
Needs to match up with the model, animations and would need new voice acting.

So, too much work for not enough interest.
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>>159881984
>Blizzard
>Recognizing mistakes
?????
>>
>They changed Monk's Air Ally to reveal stealth heroes.

Good.
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>>159881149
i think they'd have to change his shield somehow, blocking projectiles seems like it'd completely fuck over anything ranged while melees would just laugh at him
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>>159881984
nobody cares about Diablo 3 anymore
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>>159882663
>be melee
>walk in front of reinhardt and start attacking him
>he charges me and pins me against a wall
>his team rapes me while I'm unconscious
nah he'd be fine
>>
What rank do I need for the epic lion? It looks so much better than the shitty lizard from last season.
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>>159881984
Those farts must be amazing
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>>159884141
plat
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>>159884569
He said epic, not the normal one.
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>>159884141
I think master for epic
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>>159879826
>guys what if we nerf the shit out of muradin before selling a new skin for him?!
>GENIOUS
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>>159882827
>better numbers than HotS

kek
>>
People who've played varian on the PTR, how does he seem?

Always been a fan of him as a character, but don't wanna drop 15k on him if hes a piece of shit on release.
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>>159888218
havent played him but ive been watching streams and he looks absolutely broken
taunt is basically a dehaka tongue that you dont have to aim and it only has a 25 second cd
charge has a lvl 4 talent that makes it stun for 1 sec and have a 6 second cool down (its targeted also)
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>>159888529
another 15k gold buy it seems
i miss shit heroes desu
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>>159888898
remember when heroes DIDNT break the game for 3 weeks when they were released?
>>
Malfurion, check

Varian, check

Where the fuck is Valeera??

ALSO

Onyxia and Alexstrasza when
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>>159889757
What the fuck does Malf have to do with Valeera?
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>>159889890
I think because he looks just like broll bearmantle
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>>159889890
Read the comics faggot
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>>159889941
lmao no thanks
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>>159889941
You mean Broll?
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>>159889941
That was Broll, Malf never hung out with Varian.
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>>159889610
Did any heroes before Sylvanas break the game?
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>>159890831
thrall
sylvanas wasn't too bad honestly, considering we got kaelthas right after her
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>>159854632
Valla / Tychus / Raynor
Rexxar / Diablo / Sonya
Kharazim / Tyrande / Li Li
Sylvanas / Sgt Hammer / The Lost Vikings
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>tfw your murky becomes so annoying that people eventually just ult you out of frustration
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I will not stop until my bronze 5 meter is all the way turned to the left I want to have to win about 5 games to even get out of bronze 5
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>>159891059
game wasn't officially released when thrall was op

>>159891406
please stop
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>>159892618
Jaina is CUTE!!
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>>159892618
That's pretty cool.
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>>159854465
Was the Hero Brawl experience intended to be nothing but mouth breathers, new players who do nothing but feed, and people so laggy they may as well have not started the game up?

I've ignored it in the two weeks I've been playing this game again and I'm just marveled at how absolutely terrible people in brawl play.
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>>159893162
brawl is a mode that has no match making, has no impact on your mmr, and playing 3, win or lose, gets you 1k gold.

the other modes are still there for you, unchanged by the fact they added brawl to the game.

now, whats your problem with fucking brawl?
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>>159893162
damn shame, i've played 12 games since the mode was released and only had one bad game
really HELPS if you're playing with you know, as you should know
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>>159893414
>playing with you know, as you should know
what did he spazz by this
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>>159893325
>now, whats your problem with fucking brawl?

I'm pretty sure I explained it in the first sentence. There's no incentive to play good. I topped the charts in all three games, except siege on Alarak. I haven't even played Gazlowe in a year and a half.

When brawl was announced, I'd hope for a bit deeper experience than if I had decided to make a smurf account and play with people who don't know basic mechanics.
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>>159893534
why did you expect that? even when they announced it as `arena mode` way back when, it was pretty obvious it was gonna be a complete separate mode with barely any serious competitive aspect to it.

im pretty sure people who play this game even half-seriously only do it for 1k a week. its a mode made for the same people that play versus ai or qm exclusively.
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>>159893929
Uh, I didn't say I wanted it to be as competitive as ranked apparently is. I avoid ranked in any game like the plague. Just breeds hatred and contempt for other players. I'd say QM quality has become much better in the last year since I played. People are even nice to each other. At least in the few dozen games I've played.
>>
>over 1600 games played
>80%+ win rate
>win 3 games in a row
>next game
>instant queue
>level 8 on my team
>5 man premade on other team

No this game totally doesn't force 50/50!!!
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>>159894447
80% plus win rate? Respect, dude, that's pretty insane. The highest I've seen is 68% on some Koreans.
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I want Sonya to breed me.
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>>159894447
>quickmemes
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>>159894447
>80% win rate
How's vs AI life?
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>>159895045
sonya is mine. however you can have that fat pig in your pic for yourself
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>>159896006
Sonya would never be content with just one fucktoy.
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I want Johanna and Sonya to corner me and once and for all decide who is better. i want them both to pull out their cocks, each as fine as the other, Sonya's slightly longer, and Johanna's a little thicker. they both sag from their weight between their owner's thighs. Both take their cocks in their hands and begin to stroke them as i lean in and smell their musk. its so strong i feel myself start to get hard. then i reach out and take them both in my hands. so hard and hot, pulsing with excitement. i take Sonya in my mouth first, tasting her salty pre as I lick around her head and tease her tip. Sonya gets ahead of herself and grabs my skull, trying to thrust in. I gag and pull her out, trails of saliva connecting us. i turn to Johanna and kiss her uncut cock, slipping my tongue under her foreskin to rub her head. I peel it back and start bobbing my head as I come to full erection, beginning to stroke myself. i deepthroat Johanna and swallow when she is lodged in my throat, massaging her cock. I grab her balls while I do this and make her go on her tip toes in tense pleasure. i pull her cock out with a slutty "ahh" and go back to Sonya, her cock is bright red and pounding hard full of blood. She is so horny it looks like she is about to pop. I grab her sack and push her dick into my mouth. My free hand goes between her legs to her tight asshole and I slip a finger inside. i press down hard and tug her balls as I suck as hard as i can. I feel thick strands of saly jizz spray down my throat. I let her go and she staggers back. wasting no time i switch to Johanna, her member still engorged. i start to rapidly jerk her saliva covered cock off while sucking her nuts into my mouth, swirling them around with my tongue until she also succumbs and shoots thick goo into the air so it can shower down on me.

after both have recovered they ask me who is better, who wins the contest.

I only respond by turning around, offering my ass and saying there needs to be another round
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>>159895762
its not impossible
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>>159896646
>picking zeebo on maps that end early (i.e. sky temple)
Stop.
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>>159896646
>ayy ill upload wins only
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>>159896804
>picking maps in quick match

u wot m8
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>>159896942
nah i just win a lot
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>>159897116
What's your secret?
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>>159897213
always be moving, soak xp at every opportunity unless there is something more valuable to get

dont take mercenaries after wiping the enemy team, push your advantage to deal structural damage

dont die to stall for time or take objectives unless its going to win the game. dont be afraid to give some objectives up. dying will accomplish nothing and only puts you further behind.

play extremely safe and slowly get more aggressive as you get more comfortable. HOTS is not about making good plays, its about not making bad plays
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>tfw used to be #1
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>>159897503
I wish my teammates played like that, I'm aware and doing exactly all of those things every game, on top of never giving up when things look like garbage. I really doubt you solo queue a lot with that many wins.
>>
Which map is the most comfiest and why is it Dragon Shire?
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>>159898564
>most comfiest
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>>159898564
bhb
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>>159897882
ive been playing since alpha so i never had to deal with ELO hell, but its a real thing and it sucks

just keep playing your best, make as few mistakes as possible, and eventually you get out of it
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>>159899448
I've also been here for almost 2 years now. It feels endless and now the resets brought me back to where I was ages ago. I've never reached masters so far.

I wish I were the only constant.
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>>159879826
Wonder if the special snowflake is a gold mount.
>>
haven't played in a few months

of the female cast

which one holds the ass throne
>>
why do people team fight 3v5?

why?

what fucking thought process do these idiots have?
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>>159900113
Tyrande.

Tracer, Li-Meme, Kerrigan and Nova are contenders.

Jaina is dead last.
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>>159870851
in literally name alone, dont be ridiculous
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>>159900116
why do you assume they actually can think? this is HOTS for fucks sake
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>>159900538
I would probably put kerrigan right below tyrande, then probably nova, ming and tracer.
>>
What one change would you make to the game to improve it?
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>>159903348
revert mount speed change

>inb4 it only takes a second less to traverse from top to bot

why change it if it was that insignificant
>>
>>159903432
this would be a good way to nerf the shitty globals meta
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>>159903432
Maybe mounts were a mistake in general. They want to make heroes have different speeds.
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>>159903748
i straight up wouldnt be playing this game if i wasn't able to mount to be honest
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>>159903875
Fair enough. Globals are actually a bigger mistake. Sucks balls to not have them on your team on some maps.
>>
the samuro nerf wasn't enough
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>>159904563
its never going to be enough for you qm enthusiasts

just like nova and zeratul
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>>159904563
Yeah it was still just a tiny nerf, it wasn't suppose to be much. He will probably get another nerf in January when they get back from vacation.
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>>159905283
JUST ADD A FEW SECONDS TO HIS Q AND E DAMN IT
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>>159904563
stop being bad
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>>159905848
64% win rate is just everyone else being bad lmao
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>>159905848
shut up dirty samuro picker
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so new to this shit but what is the major difference between normal Realms and PTR

just heroes in development and early tweaks?
whats stopping everyone from doing PTR?
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>>159907056
PTR is a seperate region, so it means you don't complete quests, your gold doesn't do anything and it isn't always available. There is basically no matchmaking and as people from China get matched with people from the US, the lag can be miserable.

So, it is just for testing and seeing what builds or heroes they'll introduce in the future. You can buy heroes with real cash on PTR and they'll transfer to your actual region, but that's it.
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>>159907056
PTR stands for Public Test Realm, it is up for the public to test new stuff. You can play it whenever it's up, the difference is your progress is not recorded over from your main account other than the heroes you own.

Also the only way to own the new hero on the PTR is to buy them with real money, they aren't available on the PTR for gold. This is done mostly so queue times aren't insane when trying out the new hero (although they are pretty long anyway because only a small portion of the player base uses the PTR). But if you do buy it on the PTR you will get it on your main account when the PTR patch goes live the following week.
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The marauder Muradin skin is amazing.
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>>159907228
>>159907273
ah ok thank you
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>>159907056
>whats stopping everyone from doing PTR?
The servers are shit and things are broken, and if you're outside of the USA you're fucked because your ping is in the hundreds.
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>>159907292
I'll admit, the effects on it look fucking sick. But I think I'll pass on a robo midget with a robotic beard.
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>>159854632
This is my personal opinion. Your mileage will of course vary.

Warrior: Arthas
Assassin: Tychus
Specialist: Gazlowe
Support: Brightwing

Cho'Gall deserves special mention. IF you have a friend to play him with you, there's nothing like him. Insanely fun, very, very strong.
>>
HOW DO I PLAY WITH FUTA SWORD?
>>
>Want to lose 3 Lost Cavern arams so I can get my gold before the new Brawl

>Of course, the enemy team is a bunch of nigger tryhards and we're going on the 45th minute.

When Brawls have more long-lasting matches than FUCKING QUICK PLAY OR EVEN UNRANKED, there's a fucking problem
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>>159911815
Pretty easy, just land your spears and slam the shit out of people. Don't whirlwind for the sake of whirlwinding, use it when you can really benefit from the heal.
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>>159911250

>Tychus

How to deal damage with him? He does FUCK ALL when I try to use him, and I'm wary of trying him again since he ain't free
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>>159912408
q or d then granade.
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>>159914471

Has to be more than that.

Does -0- damage.
>>
I want to give a try to this game, I casually play other moba, paragon to be honest.

I kind of find difficult that game yet I enjoy it, will it be the same with heroes of the blizzard?, I hope so.


By the way, how long are the games?
>>
>>159914698

As a tradeoff for not having surrenders, games last anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes.

Shitstomps are 100% likely. Thus games end fast.
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>Lost Cavern
>3 games
>enemy team has Abathur/Illdan/Samuro/Stitches/(HEALER) each time

>Can't win since LOL I PERSONALLY CANNOT FIGURE OUT HOW THE FUCK TO DEAL WITH ILLDAN. HE JUST DOES WHAT SAMURO DOES BY HIMSELF. UBER PICKS VS MY SHIT TEAM COMP.

I mean fuck I got a Murky on my team TWICE.

Why can't Blizzard get the point to make Brawls fun? They're chores!
>>
Can I go Rancor build again with Valla?
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>>159915247
The complete random hero selection is ass. At least the next brawl will let you pick from 3.
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>>159915657
If they have tanky people go rancor if they don't go for W build.

But yes you can.
Game I just happen to be in.
>>
Just started recently and now I have 10k gold what hero should I buy?
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>>159916551
lost vikings
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>>159916136
>>159915657
I tried Rancor build and I died 14 times. We still won.

Whoops. Spoiler alert, Rancor build doesn't do shit against Tracer or Samuro.

All I was good for was landing stuns. Cowgirl skin is totally worth it though. There's like a billion custom animations. But I don't think I'm gonna go barbie cowgirl any more.
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>>159907056
>whats stopping everyone from doing PTR?

It goes down after the PTR patch goes live. It's up occasionally at best; only when the devs need to test a lot of shit at once.
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>>159887404
>a few tiny tweaks
>HURRRR RUINED
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When are we going to get comprehensive stat page? I shouldn't have to use some shit site like hotdogs to see my stats.
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This Kharazim rework is so fucking cool. Way of a Hundred Fists actually gains supportive usage as well. Fucking love it.
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dont die assholes
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>try to win game
>lose over and over
>give up on winning
>last pick murky instead of the support my team is forcing me to pick because fuck it we're gonna lose anyway
>go pants-on-head retard splitpush trump voter build
>win

uhhhh
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>>159925405
W A L L
A
L
L
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>>159923240
How are the allies? Which ones do you see yourself picking?
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Remind me again why I keep playing this?
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>>159929414
Big fan of the vision one. I REALLY dig that. They're basically wards, and I think the fact that they gave him what's essentially a better Scouting Drone is awesome considering he doesn't have much utility baseline.

As it stands though, the vision Ally and the healing Ally are more than likely going to be the two biggest ones, and Earth is going to be reserved as a very niche pick.

Giving him the Allies was such a good idea though, both in terms of gameplay and character theme, I wish they'd do more shit like that. Added character theme flavor goes a long way with me personally.

>>159929958
Because it's fun as fuck. Spent like 3 years on LoL, quit because of how miserable the whole thing after so long. Been playing this since early Alpha and my opinion of it hasn't diminished at all. The general state of game balance used to really get me down, but they actually got better about this over this last year..

That said, I wish they'd rRE-rework Nova, because I feel like she REALLY got left in the dust and that makes me sad.
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>>159930167
I think the Earth ally is pretty damn kick ass.
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What are you guys using to get that free elo in HL?
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>>159931047
>>>>>>>>>>>elo
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>>159929958
because its fun with real characters instead of "pay us more"
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>>159930869
Yeah, I mean, on second thought the Monk IS melee. I for some raeson forgot that fact, and the fact that he'll want to constantly be AAing things. So thinking about it now, I can see it being used consistently enough. Maybe I'm wrong, actually. Maybe the Air Ally is going to be the more niche one. I love it though.

Holy fuck what is with 4chan tonight, connection errors all fucking over trying to post.
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>>159914690
Literally broncy
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>>159854465
> Want to play a game of DotA
> been shitposting for Trump all week
> Somehow Steam is telling me somethings wrong with my files
> Tfw realize there is a conspiracy against Trump voters.
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What are the best heroes to buy/practice if I'm looking to get back into ranked?
I'll place low-mid plat right now, goal is just to hit D5.

I own the rest but I'm not very practiced on any, mainly played for fun with friends in the last few months.
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>>159931290
Verify files, also wrong thread.

>>159931516
I feel that it's easiest to carry a garbage team iss a ranged DPS. Warrior only if you're able to communicate with these subhumans.
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>>159931557
so between gul'dan, chromie, hammer, which would you pick up right now for HL?

also is grubby's tier list alright?
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>>159931683
>Tierlist
Haha.
>Grubby
Hahahaha. What a fucking joke.
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>>159931683
Grubby is smart, but do note that Valla and Samuro got nerfed, Muradon got changed and Sylvanas is highly situational from uselessness to far too good. I personally can't recommend Hammer or especially Chromie. The best one in the bunch would be Gul'dan, on a team with actual frontline.

Don't trust tierlists too much.
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>>159931829
Malf also got nerfed. BW got nerfed some time ago. So did LiMing.

Tier lists are inherently dog-shit and so bad. That Grubby (he's shit) is a good example.
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>>159931886
I don't think that's how it works, Anon...
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>>159931927
Meant to reply to >>159931683
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>>159931985
I doubt it, dude.
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>>159932086
Well >>159931886 makes sense. And the reply from >>159931927 to >>159931683 makes sense.

Put two together, Anon.
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>>159932140
Fuck i hate this board (and nigger spics) now
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>>159932171
>get blown out
>uhh....i'm ganna turn edgy!
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>>159932140
I'm confused but I've also never seen this many (You)s in one post.
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>It's a "There's No Warriors or Supports, They Got Thrall and You Didn't" episode of QM

God I wish they would add an option to opt for a comp with at least one Warrior and one Support in QM, in exchange for a longer queue time. So tired of all these one-sided matches just because Thrall has retarded self-heals and a good initiation, ans is an Assassin and shit. Medivh is another one of those fuckers that just throws shit out of balance, and has a cancerous QM presence.
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>>159932267
What's wrong about Unranked Draft again?
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>>159932338
Nothing, and my winrate in it is like 3 times higher than in quick match
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>>159932430
I wouldn't be surprised if they removed all the restrictions again. Soon they'll have a healer and you wont.
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>>159932338
Peer pressure to still play the shit everyone expects you to persists.
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>>159932761
So it's okay for THEM to suffer your shitpicks, but you come here to whine about it if it happens to you. Damn. Just suck it up.
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>sky temple
>take boss
>we already have a siege camp pushing bot
>we're all still healthy and have our big teamfight cds up
>enemy team is pushing mid fort, isn't super healthy, is behind a talent tier and doesn't have their big teamfight cds up

What's the best course of action here, /hotsg/?
Is it:
>A) Wrap around and slaughter the enemy team and then push to end
or
>B) Send the tank and healer to push bottom and initiate a 3v5
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>>159933048
C) Push with boss and rape the enemy if they contest.

A if you're pussies/have shitters.
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>>159933048
You 5 man wipe those motherfuckers out and continue what the boss started through the bot lane. Post level 17 anyway, otherwise you take another building. They'd back the moment they saw the boss anyway.
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>>159932923
I'm not following, here. Unranked is generally seen as a good practice ground for HL, in that it's a more organized setting. "Shitpicks" are discouraged because because there are a lot of people there who want to play more seriously and get "tilted" if somebody picks something that isn't considered Meta. Simply adding the option to opt for a Warrior and Support on your team in QM gives relief to people who don't want to deal with the pressure of having to play shit they don't really want to so as not to shit on others' parade, whilst also ensuring everything isn't thrown so out of balance.

I'm fine with playing with "shitpicks", I'm just not fine with games that are lopsided purely because the game is built around the idea that you have a Warrior and a Support, but teams lack both, therefor particular heroes shit on a mass amounts of others due to this. I think it's an option that would do nothing but good.
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>>159933537
Sadly, I don't get it. All I can get from is this that people sure love to complain. I hope Blizzard doesn't pander to these shitters, or else we'll have a mode called QMv2 where you only get full team comps, because some babbiess were too scared to just fucking play draft.
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>>159934107
That's why I suggest an option for it. Click the checkbox, your game will be sure to include at least one Warrior and one Support, don't click it and it's just normal QM. Nothing changes aside from longer queue times for those wolling to wait for a Warrior and Support match, QM players who don't want to opt for that are untouched and everything is just fine and dandy.

This however WOULD affet 4-5 stacks, but I fully believe 4-5 stacks should just be thrown into fucking Unranked Draft by defualt. If you want to control your team's entire comp, do that shit there, because it's unfair to the opposing team.
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>>159934362
I don't think you understand how matchmaking works if you say that regular QM players are untouched and everything is fine when you're literally splitting the community. I don't think they should do that.
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>>159854678
selfmade?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_wBn4PGR54
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>>159934540
wow i hate overwatch players more now
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>>159934362
>m-muh 5 stacks are unfair!!
Nope. Wrong. The most throws I've seen (on average) are by far from 5 stacks. I've smashed many 5 stacks. I've also been in 5 stacks and lose because of either,

1. A literal shitter (let's invite my silver friend!)
2. Someone or we get over-confident.

5 stacks are insanely over-rated.
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>>159934623
I wouldn't say they're insanely overrated but i do agree on the throws
I've had way too many games that were only possible to win due to some impressively hard throws due to overconfidence, and it seems much more common in 5 mans
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>>159931683
>brightwing
>medivh
>kerrigan
>azmodan
>rexxar
>falstad
>alarak
>thrall
>dehaka
LMAO
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What day of the week do we get new f2p heroes?
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FUCK
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>>159936576
Tuesday.
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>>159937172
>There are people in this thread even at this very moment who have less than 150k gold
Do you even play the game?
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>>159937247
> >1300 games played
>no gold
>don't even own 1/3rd of the heroes in the game
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>>159937519
You must not level free heroes to five or do your quests every three days.
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>>159937519
There's the quest system and you get 1250 gold for leveling up heroes free or owned to 9.
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>>159937801
>login everyday

no thanks familly
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>>159937843
Every four days, dumb-ass.
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>>159937843
>everyday
>every three days
Are you stupid, anon?
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>>159937927
Practically, if you want to min max, you'd keep 2 trash-tier quests to avoid getting them.
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>>159937838
>leveling to 9
takes too long for heroes i don't enjoy playing
>quests
i don't like to be forced to play only certain heroes every day
i know it works fine for most people, but personally i don't like the way you get gold at all so i barely have any
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>>159938087
Yeah, but that's stupid. Especially since draft games now count for franchise and role quests.

You can either play a little bit every day or play a lot every three days. Either way, it is fucktons of gold.
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>>159938173
Play draft modes. They turn "play 2 Diablo character games" into "play 2 games".
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>>159938087
Oh, yeah, but playing anything but QM gives you the quests anyway, so you can't really avoid it.
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Hey, fellow fat Illidan/panda players, should I bite the bullet and shelve Lunar Chen and get the master skin instead?

I don't own any masters and Chen's is actually good, but I have a pay skin already (China bundle) even if it is a bit dull.
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>>159938371
lol lunar chen is shit, get the master skin and stop making an ass out of yourself.
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>>159938478
Man, I expected less bully from pandafags. But you right, you right.

I don't know what I was thinking. I just like the big coin, but themed abilities my ass. Worth it for Lili and the tiger, but yeah, Master Skin coming up.
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>>159938371
Sounds good, anon, if you really like spending gold on it. The other china skin makes the bundle worth it anyway.
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>estimated wait 87s
>elapsed time 576s

I fucking hate this game. QM, HL, now even Brawl. This is fucking unplayable horse shit.
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>>159939502
Try Auto-select.
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>>159934540
CUTE!
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>>159939886

>auto-select in brawl
>auto-select in hero league

ok
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>>159940245
I think a retard like you deserves 10 minute queue times.
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Valla is being bred by Sonya.
Jaina is being bred by everyone.
Lili and Tyrande are being bred by their mounts.
Lunara is being bred by Lili's and Tyrande's mounts.
Nova is being bred by the Zerg.
Who is Li-Ming being bred by?
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>>159915247
played my 3 yesterday and the other team mostly gave up before we even hit 10. it's not fun because shitters realized they can just do nothing for 1k gold.
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>>159940818

ur mom
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>>159940818
literally me
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>>159940818
the anon above this post
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why are there so many abathurs in QM
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>>159940818
Sonya
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>>159944150
muh sequences
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>>159944150
Because for some reason shitters like playing him.
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Fucking Magtheridon WHEN?
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>>159944327
>still no Tichondrius or Mal'ganis
>still no Kil'jaeden
>still no Archimonde
>still no Mannoroth
>still no Shivarra
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>>159944468
>shivarra hero
unf
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>>159944327
FUCK ALL OF YOU.
ZUL JIN WHEN?
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>>159944671
he's the january hero, chill
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>>159944781
i'm pretty sure we're not
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>>159944762
>3 warcraft heroes in a row
Next are Stukov and Cyadea.
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>>159944762
Not likely, he is gonna be blizzards equivalent of.
Urgot rework

I hope with all this time taking they will at least make him into his one armed rogue instead.
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>>159944862
it's zul'jin, they heavily hinted it in the blizzcon q&a and it got leaked here too
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Wanna bet on which I finish first?
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Zul'jin is fun and cute.
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>>159945085
FUN and CUTE
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>>159945085
can't wait to have my warbear.... my one and only mount
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>>159944862
>>159944957
Last Blizzcon had four WC heroes in a row
Also come on, they have his mount in the Blizzcon trailer.
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>>159945001
You'll do both at the same time.
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Kind of off-topic question but since there is no d3 general I will ask here, got a free copy of d3 and really want the hots mount. How long does it take to level a seasonal hero to 70?
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>>159946452
as you are new, maybe a day, but you can ask in game for someone to level you up and it would only take minutes
D3 is super ded tho
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>>159944781
Illidan is in the game, yes.
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>>159940818
Zerathul
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>>159940818
The player.
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>>159948875
Protoss don't have the equipment.

>>159946452
Not very long. For your first character it's a fun journey too. I'd say you can get it in a couple of hours.
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>>159896630
Hi Ipwnlocks pony fuck
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Is there another heroes of the storm streamer who will ever be as good as Sham was?
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>>159951554
Who's sham?
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>>159951554

The only streamers worth watching for HotS are Grubby (the one) Kaeyoh (hit and miss) Lauralania (love how easy going she is) and Kiyeberries (shortstack that never shut up about how much she wants to eat Nova's ass.) Everyone else is meh.

Speaking of which, there are many new ones. I wish I could watch Rentaro, but having Fan there in the corner breaks the waifu inmersion and I don't really want to deal with couples shit. Oddish is too slutty for me, and I can't deal with HER horrible laugh. Faye is goddamn boring after a while, can't stand "le sarcastic" people after 5 minutes.

There are many others I'm checking out. There is a flood of new streamers as of late; I'm having a good time with Twitchstreamer GUI thanks to it.

btw, Chu8 is complete garbage. I can't believe people like that shit. Same for the abortion guy. Disgusting.
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>>159952829
lol who is the abortion guy
>>
>watching hots
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>>159952884

Some fatfuck that was crying 'cause of ranked play and because his wife had an abortion of some kind.

>>159952974

>playing hots

--------------

But yeah, holy fuck, I love Kiyeberries. She is AWFUL at the game, but is so fun to hear. Would love to hang out with her.
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>>159953097
>hang out
sure sure
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>>159952829
>Kiyeberries (shortstack that never shut up about how much she wants to eat Nova's ass.)
Tell me more.
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Best streamer are AlextheproG, Snitch and other pros who share pro-play insight and game knowledge.

Chu8 is garbage. Mewn is utter complete trash. Horsepants is ok I guess and Grubby is nice but too boring in my opinion.
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Just as the thread is getting boring, someone conjures up some quality cringe.
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>>159951554
Was sham the dragon's lair guy that had a level 20 sylvanas and still went possession because he didn't know how to detonate silencing arrow?
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>>159896630
That's pretty hot anon
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Archmage Antonidas hero concept (support)

Arcane Rune
Mark a hero with a rune
If cast on an ally, grants 10% ability power and a shield the next time they cast an ability
If cast on an enemy, the next time they cast an ability, they are silenced instead

Arcane force
skillshot like medivh's Q, does moderate dmg and pushes enemies away slightly. Shields allies hit by it

Arcane explosion
Does light dmg and pushes enemies back like ETC's W, shields allies, small aoe

Ult 1 Rune of teleportation
Basically reverse demonic portal. Place a rune, teleport allies to it. Can only be placed on friendly structures

Ult 2 Adept spellcaster
Increase all shields given to allies by 50%. Increase pushback distance of all spells by 20%

Trait Fireball
Aoe skillshot. Functions like tychus grenade, dmgs enemies in its path as well.
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>>159954195
>Trait Fireball
umm anon. what r u donig...
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>>159951554
>>159952829
>forgetting our guy Akaiji
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>>159953954
Yes. He was the best Hots player out there. Defining the sylvanas meta with possession.
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Who are the best players from /hotsg/?
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>>159951554
Taliant is p. alright.
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>>159954782
The ones that keep their mouths shut.
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>>159954780
He was OUR GUY!
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>>159954782
GucciMeme for sure
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>when you get so mad you broadcast it
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>>159954782
I'm probably the highest rank here if that matters at all. Otherwise I don't think we really interact too much to know for sure.
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I'm new to this game and came for a more casual experience compared to DotA. I like the shorter games and the clearer objective-based gameplay, but I feel like most teamfights are a clusterfuck with no skill required. Does this get any better or does it just get worse with higher levels?

Also which heroes are bro tier?
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>>159955286
Game of thrones?
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what if rehgar and morales used bloodlust, stim drone, both heals, resistance, and shields on a greymane

then you just have 2 tanks to keep everyone safe

its foolproof
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>>159955437
The teamfights might appear a clusterfuck in bronze league. You'll see that small plays and small mistakes make all the difference.
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>>159954782
me
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>>159955437
It appears to be a clusterfuck, but you definitely notice a difference in skill, trust me.
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>>159955515
>its foolproof
just because a fool made the plan doesn't make it foolproof
what is "cc"?
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>>159955515
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>>159956964
What did he mean by this?
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>>159955515
Blizzcon tournament stats for anyone that cares on roughly how good each support is at the moment. The minor malfurion nerfs won't change anything, he is by and by the best support. While conversely Rehgar is apparently highly over valued despite how weak he is in reality.


Tyrande loss: 3 win: 1
Auriel loss: 5 win: 6
Rehgar loss: 10 win: 6
Brightwing loss: 6 win: 7
Malfurion loss: 9 win: 13
Lt Morales loss: 1 win:
Tassadar loss: 4 win: 4
Kharazim loss: 1 win: 1
Uther loss: 0 win: 1
LiLi loss: 0 win: 1
Duo Support win rates: loss: 5 win: 6
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>>159958461
Wow tyrande fucking sucks now
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I want a brawl that's murky only, possibly TLV as well

First to 100 takedowns
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>>159958812
Naah you don't.
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>5 minute wait for a game
>a player you were matched with has left the game or disconnected from the service.
>another 5 minute wait
fuck
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>>159957868
lili's E is a blind right
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>>159959997
Yeah, it's a blind.


I can't fucking wait for Zul'jin. I want a Troll so fucking bad, man. And it's fucking rare I ever want to actually spend money on this game, but goddamn I have to have that Amani Bear.
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>>159959997
Oh snap. I feel foolish.

>>159960330
Remember the Butcher bundle where you also got his mount? Put one and one together.
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>>159944150
>Not hatting snipes the full time with full shield build as he plays tracer
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>>159954782
Senjinn
>You will never have senjinn tell you to stim he as he goes in 1v4 from the core as illidan with the meme.
Man that was some funny fucking shit seeing him dive in not giving a fuck
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>>159961085
>not even grandmaster
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>>159961417
Everyone knows senjinn would be grand Master if he wasn't in time out for having bad manners.
>You will never play with senjinn as malf being his personal mana battery as he plays LI meme. Why live?
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>>159961835
>so shit at the game he becomes >toxic and gets muted
>can't even get gm in >na
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>>159870554
Anon, why can't I seem to find Imperius on your list?
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>>159870554
Maiev is the only one that matters
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YOU'RE NEXT
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let's say blizzard wants to add a hero that works like invoker from dota (combines different elements to cast many different spells), what character could they use? I was thinking about Antonidas or Khadgar from warcraft
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>>159854465
how the hell do you play the vikings?
Split push?
Bum rush as one?
I have no clue
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>>159966485
tfw no male dragon to fap too in hots
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>>159966601
Thrall would have actually been the best character. Any shaman as they combine the elements.

At this point it would most likely be restricted to khadgar.
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>>159967259
Split soak.
Ideally Olaf should be the one with your team the most.
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>>159967808
Shamen control only the elements of nature you dum-dum
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>>159968487
so what? the concept is the same, just instead of frost, arcane and fire you combine lightning, earth and water for example
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Should I buy Lunara or Alarak?

Also, Master or Mecha Dehaka?
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>>159968762
It's just a basic shaman/mage then. Ever heard of Med'an?
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>>159854465
stomp, clap. stomp-clap. stomp, clap. stomp-clap.
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>>159969178
no pls
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>>159969125
Both. Mecha.
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>>159963281
He'd be cool, but far from a "must"
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>>159967259
What >>159967816 said. I don't personally play TLV much, but I have a buddy who has them at level 20 he plays them so much. Primarily he just sticks to Eric and runs around all the time, with Olaf and Balog soaking, but he'll usually bring them in for team fights, and always has Eric nearby for a recall, and then sends Eric off.
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can someone please give me a you
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>>159970757
which one are (You)?
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>>159970757
i want to love brightwing
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>>159971376
Are you man enough?
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>>159970757
>I-I actually wanted to lose the whole time!
Rused again
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>>159971671
Off-topic reaction image, but best I have.

I should get a HOTS version of this from a drawfag thread.
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>>159972053
I hope it'll be a good one!
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>>159970226
motherfucking sacrilege
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Anybody know if I playing during the free OW weekend will give me Zarya in hots?
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>tfw ming still balanced
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>>159975479
no

but the play 15 games event in hots next week gives you zarya
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>>159975479
You don't get anything for playing OW, you only get stuff for playing HotS.
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>>159975572
>quickmatch
>3 frontline on your team
wow ;)
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>>159976114
>>159976740
well fuck me
I thought you had to play overmeme as well, it's not like blizzard to not jew you for once.
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>>159976789

Arthas was dead or pushing lanes 90% of the match, so maybe 1 front line.

But yeah, I get it
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>>159854465
im a noob
can you derank from a border? like back to gold from where i just got, or to silver 1 from gold 5 etc. ?

also what's the average ranking, people play like retards but i barely play hots so i have no idea, is it like League of Legends where Gold is the average?
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>>159854465
any tips?
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>>159951554
Don't forget I stream now. My progress from bronze 5 to wood league will happen. I do stupid shit like 0 hero damage, wall teammates to death with tass, and once i get cursed hollow I plan to die 25 times as murky by feeding to the boss over and over
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>>159977894
Yes, you can derank from plat 5 to gold 1 just as easily as plat 4 to plat 5.
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>>159978221
I hope your family forgets your birthday.
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>>159977894
The general consensus right now is that everything under master equals to bronze, and it's not even far away from truth. They're planning to change it... to the worse, so shittier players end up higher, oddly enough.

Yes, you can derank as far as you want.
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>>159978221
Where the FUCK is this stream?
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>>159978639
twitch dot tv/rainman675

I'll stream in a couple hours not home ATM
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>>159978502
>>159978525
thanks

>shittier players end up higher
how?
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>>159980018
As you see in that graph most people seem to be sitting around silver. They're planning to even it out more towards high gold, according to what they said at Blizzcon.
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>>159952829
what about Russian Jaina, Daughter of Putin, Defender of Slavs, Slayer of CYKA BLATS
i like watching her emotions.
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>>159978502
>i'm at least in the top 15% of players
>me and the people i play with are shit
>literally 85% of the population is somehow worse

what the fuck even happens in those leagues? do people go to lane then afk and make a sandwich?
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>>159980538
does gela even stream anymore? haven't seen her in ages
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>>159981365
she started streaming again a couple of days ago. don't know if she will be streaming regularly now.
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>>159977894
literally taken from my account
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Tomator when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeho-hU5TDE
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>the game is 2 years old and there is STILL no firebat tank hero
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>>159980863
There are a lot of ways to be bad. The people you play with are bad, but not the way the people I play with are bad.

5 people actively working together on wrong assumptions will always be worse than 5 people who regularly make bad mistakes.
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>>159983330
They just love to watch the world burn by adding them as minions on the SC maps.
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>>159983610
those are hellbats
not firebats
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>>159972053
I can help - should I put in Tychus and Raynor or someone edgier like Tychus, Alarak(with master skin)?
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>>159984758
I'd prefer the marines.
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>>159984758
add in purifier artanis, its a perfect match
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>>159984758
To be fair, the entire idea is that humans purge aliens like in Warhammer so I think the marines would be a better fit.
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tfw you only play for amani warbear
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braxis holdout murky boss throw live
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>mfw you cant just buy the mount
>you need to win a game in under 15 minutes
>only 1 person gets the mount each game
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>>159988438
What are you talking about?
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>>159988492
Hope
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>playing quick meme with /vg/ guys
>having the most fun you've had in a long time
t-t-t-thanks guys
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dead thread
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>>159990475
Can /vg/ carry my ass out of silver?
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>>159992318
Shit I'd have to level up my alt a bit but once I do I'll start carrying you silver fucks.
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>Illidan is free this week!
>Didn't notice, since everyone's 5 but him.
>Pick him
>Enemy QP teams who wouldn't be cohesive for any fucking other pick in the god damn game suddenly "We're a team! Let's grief Illidan EXCLUSIVELY if he even thinks of showing up!"

How do you even play this hero if he vaporizes if a stiff breeze touches him? Half this game is not viable based on whether or not the enemy has a bonafide team, but he in particular..demands a 1v1 and won't ever get it unless the enemy is bad
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>>159975572

>Everyone's about to have her for free
>Don't ever want to bother considering playing her ever again since she'll be in 100% of games until nerfed to oblivion.

Fuck.

I don't want to spend money on Alarak, but apparently he does damage. I've yet to see it, and I fight him often.
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This brawl goes so quickly that it take longer for the queue than both matches to end
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>>159994617
I like playing on the same team as Alarak. Constantly being belittled by John DeLancie just never gets old.
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>>159994317
you have to go in at the right time, pop evasion when they're hitting you, and dip out at the right time. he has the best mobility in the entire game, so use it. the tools are there, the hard part of illidan is learning when to use them.

in other words: hero is fine, git gud
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I like Raynor and Hammer but not Tychus. Whay are some other heroes you'd recommend to me /hotsg/?
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>>159998180
Chromie.
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>>159998180
Lunara for sure

maybe Falstad and Valla
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Holy fuck can we get a gazlowe nerf already he's ruining the game
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>>159999327
They can't. How would I be a one man wrecking crew if they nerfed him?
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Was this the game or was it Hearthstone that had a really weird method to get a skin for some character? I think it involved Amazon Prime... and maybe Lunara?
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>>160000286
tyrande skin for priest in hearthstone
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>>159999327
t. wood
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LUNARA
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>>159999327
Said nobody ever. Lay off the LSD, anon.
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>>160001258
LSD wouldn't do anything like that to you.

Did you just look up random drug names and think "yep, LSD sounds evil!"?

Pic' related is more LSD like.
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Do we have a HOTS discord?
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Let's take a poll.

Which is more dead?

/hotsg/ or the Diablo franchise?
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>>160001340
Thought of the first drug that popped into my head, as I wasn't being litera. You're just a bag of fun, aren't you?

Or does it upset you that I just called you a bag as well? Fuck, there's no winning with you.
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>>160001519
I'm not even >>159999327 you fucking spastic. Infact, I also posted >>160000570

If anything, you're the "bag of fun" (!)

I'm just here to call people out, which is apparent in >>160000570 and >>160001340 I see no need for you to be upset over such a simple correction that is not personal. Here's a chance for you to slightly improve yourself and knowledge yet you lash out.
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>>159944957
I also prefer the one armed version, helps him stand out from any other trolls me may get down the line. Vol jin is gonna at some point
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https://discord.gg/FR2DANW
OFFICIAL HOTS DISCORD
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Are people interested in guides for characters that cover the rough outlines of them while being slightly comedic?

Perhaps in video form. Have an idea for a few but not sure if its already done or not for hots.
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>>160001901
I didn't think you were Gazlowe anon, nor did anything I do or say imply that I did. I was purely responding to that single post of yours.

Not was I even being overly serious, I was just busting your balls for being anal over a single thing. Yet I'M the one that needs to "improve myself"? Simmer down, buddy.
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>>160002617
And I'm also busting your balls for being anal over a single thing.

Learn to read. Funny how you can be Mr. AllJokes but everybody else is 100% super serious. Sign of a loser.
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>>160002689
>Busting balls over anal

Lewd
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>>160002296
There are two discords. One is invite only. Cool people only. Faggots and trannies get to stay in the pleb discord.
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>>160002369
https://youtu.be/kniZcbAEpbE
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>>160003329
hardcore af bro xD
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>>160001418
Well /hotsg/ still has its general so...
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>>160001418
hots > diablo 2 > diablo 3 in terms of not being ded
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We're all gonna make it, anons.
We're all gonna be happy.
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>>160007017
What are we making?
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>>160007193
Not playing on weekends
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>>160007534
Oh fuck, I thought about playing today. Thanks for saving me.
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I might as well ask here, since HoTS has the same engine as SC2.
Could you recommend some good guides, videos, youtubers, or streamers for gitting gut in SC2?

Also how's Kael in hero league atm?
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>accidentally lock illidan into QM
>eh whatever
>enemy team is all AA centric
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>>160009347
>I might as well ask here, since HoTS has the same engine as SC2.
lel
>wants to get into SC2 now
lel x2
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>>160009347
I don't recommend starting SC2 any more. However, there are sites by the competitive teams that offer good insight and guides.
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>>160001418
Diablo franchise was killed the moment they turned this game into a single game with online connection required.

What I wonder is which game have more players currently.. Diablo 2 or Diablo 3 ? Considering that some people (like me) might be playing solo.
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>>160002296
>>160003329
>actually using discord

What's wrong with people ?

>>159999327
gazlow can be annoying according your hero, but he isn't that strong.
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>>159996141
I want to buy Alarak so bad just for his Q voice, but his telekinesis is really hard to use.
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anyone for qm on eu group for bonus xp

iillliillill#2854
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>shitty looking barcode
tryhard
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>>160012018
feel free to add me if you want to play, friend
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FRIENDLY REMINDER:

Maiev will NEVER EVER be in the game.

k.
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>>160013843
But anon, he already is.
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Soo, I have been following HotS Twitch viewership for a while and it looks like it is actually growing up. Slow, but steady, it already beat Smite every single day, doubling their views.

So yeah, maybe we'll see a resurgence somewhere down the line? Is there any other MOBA that have GUILDS on it? Because I think that's pretty hype to have. I can't wait to have my own to finally have a good group of friends to play TL all the time.
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>>160014180
but hots doesn't have guilds?
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>>160014291

It was announced on Blizzcon that guilds are on development, they are working on the features, prizes and goals guilds will have, complete with guilds vs guilds tournaments. Is this exclusive to this game or other mobas have the same feature?
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>>160014374
I believe lol and smite have a clan system, don't know about dota
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>>160014483

Is it popular? How much does it help to the game? I never hear any talk about guild or guild drama on mobas. Maybe there aren't enough features on them to justify them?
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>>160014591
Don't know my man, I've never used it and I don't think it's that important to have a guild in a game like this, it's not like an mmo where you can type while you are playing and read other people's stories in chat.
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>>160010019
I liked RTS games as a kid, and SC2 seems like the only RTS out there at the moment.
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>>160014180
I don't get why people want guilds so fucking much. Like what exactly is a guild going to do that /join /vg/ or /join <guild/chatname> won't do? Seems like another one of those retarded features that no one will care about and even think its shit and pointless like the awful MVP screen reddit screamed about for months.
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>>160015120

Well, I'm a very social guy, is super easy for me to make friends on HotS at this moment, but everyone is scattered, and we don't always have the same schedule. Having a guild, channel, emblem, and goals should help everyone to socialize more. That's why I'm excited about it. I'm going to really enjoy making my guild if the features are right.

Also, you are a fucking psychopath if you think /vg will be worth to even click. The quality of players is beyond awful.

Also, I like the MVP screen. Hopefully they'll expand it and give us little medals we can keep on our profile.
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>get win 3/play 8 last two weeks almost every day
>get play diablo every day since this week
why blizzard
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>>160015535
So, go play some Diablo
What's your problem exactly?
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>>160015379
>everyone is scattered and has a different schedule
>oh welp blizzard introduced clans time to quit my job and alter my schedule because i have an emblem and guild now!

Not going to happen. Everything you listed is just pointless waste of time crap. And it doesn't matter what you think of /vg/ it was an example. You could easily make your "guild" by just making a unique chat channel and telling only those who you want to join it. Why does Blizzard need to introduce a ton of bullshit waste of time features so you can play with your friends?
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>>159977894
another question, what's favored adjustment?
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>>160015713

Yes? Having goals help a lot with the schedule. It isn't my first guild mate, I have been GM for all my MMO's for years. And yeah, having actually features instead of fan-made modes changes everything. No, you can't make your guild just making a chat channel. No, it isn't the same, as much as you want it to be. Is all about perception (and the green chat.)

I know I'll farm a character to 20 if that gives me guild shiny unique icon. Free stuff is another thing I really like about it. Hopefully we'll get exclusive skins, now that would be really neat to have.
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>>160016003
See you only want a guild because you think it will have big perks to it when it was never said there would be any perks unless you consider green chat to be so much better than regular chat. WoW used to be just a chat channel in green before they added all that stupid shit when the game started dying.

>exclusive skins

Never going to happen beyond maybe one shitty skin or mount they will give out for joining a guild. It will be the same standard garbage they have in game already. Chat channel for your guild and bonus exp for playing with guild mates which will essentially be the same thing as regular chat channel and playing with friends. Maybe they go the smite route and have your guild gain points for a leaderboard but since they can't even have stat tracking for this shit game I sincerely doubt they will do anything of the sort.
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>buffing alarak's sustain
>when he already has thrall levels of lane sustain
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>>160016438
t. bronze
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>>160016367

Yes? Have you even seen the hero panel/special? They said they want to really polish it and add a ton of features on it, since is one of their main priorities this year.

Yeah, exclusive skin may happen since they talked about exclusive rewards. I liked everything I heard about it, so yeah, hype!

>>160016438

They didn't buff the sustain, only the range.
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Apparently Glaurung was kicked from Denial. Good riddance, the guy never lived up to his spot. Also, he have fucking awful taste in music.
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>>160018370
Is denial an NA team?
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>>160018610
>>160018370
NA is finished anyways. All they ever do is roster swap after every loss and every player has a huge ego.
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>>160018610
NA is famous for being in denial of them sucking ass
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Just got a 5-man blink-powerslide mosh, shit was so sexy.
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>>160018760
Yeah NA is to cliquish, their attitudes are what hold them back from getting a stable or decent team.
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>"Let's kill them quickly. I have better things to do."
>"You speak truth."
Sometimes, these interactions...
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>kel'thuzad
>any dreadlord
>obsidian destroyer

never ever
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>>160018760
I don't know. With Astral as stable top dog the runner up teams might become better in turn.
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>>160017768
>They didn't buff the sustain, only the range.
Which in turn helps his lane sustain massively.

>>160017068
You're the bronze here, kiddo.
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>>160020571
a develpoer lately said something that they plan to make "Dreadlord Jaina" skin because of that meme
yet nothing has been said about any actual dreadlords as heroes
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>>160020783
People that complain about Alarak are shitters. More-so, those that complain about 10% range buff.
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>>160021293
Admittedly it's pretty easy, safe and consistent damage.
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What's the basic workflow of Lunara? Jaina's easy, you just go down the line with her skills, but Lunara is different
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>>160023548
>not blizzard first
cardboard league spotted.
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>>160023548
q whenever, w only for chasing or to reaply another stack of poison (so don`t use it if your targets have 3 stacks already)
Vine to poke, leap to finish or to reposition
Wisp to scout bushes, and if you git gud you can use it to block skillshots
One thing you have to manage is your poison stacks, unless you are focusing someone, use your attacks and abilities to poison as many enemies as you can (so if someone already has 3 stacks, attack someone else).
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>>160024251
>Throwing down an aoe anyone with half a brain can walk out of
>Not using a dependable spell to ensure all 3 hits from Blizzard do 50% extra damage, not just the last 2

Nigga you dumb
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>>160024448
>Hi I haven't played Jaina yet I'm posting as if I have--please rape my face
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>>160024303
I'll try it out.

It seemed like minions never attack my wisp. What can attack wisps? I assume just enemy heroes and towers.
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>>160018370
glaurung is garbage

he's literally the "butcher-playing QM all star who thinks hes about to shred everyone but then dies 10 times while trying to make 360 noscope MLG plays" of the HOTS competitive scene

its always like "glaurung melee assassin extraordinaire playing illidan or zeratul and about to carry his team to victory" but then he gets blown up hard and its painfully obvious that hes nowhere near good enough to actually get any of the teams hes on anywhere
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>>160003716
>Crazy Ivan's guide to raping waifus allahu akbar style
this being made by a russian makes it 100% more entertaining
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LUNARA
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>>160027963
CHESTNUTTY FARTS
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>>160027963
DEER PUCCI
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>>160027963
CUTE!
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>>160027963
Annoying, unless I'm Nova, then she's dead after 16
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>>160024954
He used to be good a long time ago when Tempo was really good and his play was solid and then Kerrigan fell off and had talent changes and he's sucked ever since.
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>>160031701
>letting change affect your play style
But seriously why doesn't he have a stable of heroes he can use? Does the professional scene create players that only rely on one type of hero, that once altered fucks them over?
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*ancient spears behind u*
*pops wrath of the berserker*
*fucks u in the ass*

psssh....
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>>160032419
>blinds u

nothing personnel, kiddo
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>>160032419
*drops three illusions*
*cuts you down with crits*
*teleports infront of you as try to escape*
Shhh...my blade seeks vengeance, kid.
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>>160032594
Why to baddies always flip thier shit over blinds

I swear every draft im in its just constantly HOLY SHIT BLINDS HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT FUCKING BLLIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNDDDDDSSSSSSSS OMG FUCKING BLINDS

THEY PICKED ILLIDAN??? COUNTER WITH BLINDS. THEY PICKED ZERATUL??? COUNTER WITH BLINDS. THEY PICKED VALLA??? COUNTER WITH BLINDS. THEY PICKED SAMURO??? BLIND THAT FUCKER. GREYMANE? BLINDS. THE BUTCHER? BLINDS. BLINDS ARE THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING.

Like holy shit, do you know whats a better counter to literally all those heroes? Stuns, roots, sliences, polymorph, basically any other CC in the game. Blinds are a minor inconvenience at best, why do people act like they're fucking game breaking
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>>160034206
TIL blinds counter AA.
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>>160018370
I played against him twice last night and both times did he get his ass beat. So much for his GM 20.
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I like playing meme characters, Abathur and Nova being two of the few, who should I pick up next TLV, Murky, or another option I haven't thought of yet
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>>160035432
Samuro
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>>160035432
Medivh
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>>160035602
I'm absolute ass with melee assassins, but I'll wait until his price drops ;^}
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>>160035886
How in the absolute Fuck do I use him, the only time I tried him QM gave me absolute cancer for a team and we got steam rolled on cursed fucking towers so I didn't get any idea of what the fuck I was supposed to do
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>>160034206
Because most blinds are fucking foolproof? I can't think of a single blind ability that's hard to hit, while silence is mostly restricted to ults and stuns and roots are mostly skillshots, which might be difficult to hit against him.
Also, blinds last longer than stuns and roots in addition of cucking him out of heals.

It's just the easiest choice. No shit Stormbolt -> root -> Valla stun will fuck with him, but that fucks with everyone and requires coordination.
A simple shield glare or blinding wind gets him off your dick without all that.

You can say what you want, but Artanis blind is just insane in that regard and will completely fuck Samuro/Illidan etc. over.
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>>160036196
Shield divers when they go in or people getting focused.
Pray some nigger uses the portals you give them to escape, otherwise prevent escape by porting in their way and finishing them with your rift.

Hit your fucking rifts. Seriously.
Use bird form to scout bushes and so on, fairy dust is great against samuro/zeratul/nova and so on.
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>>160031936
He just never adapted. Someone said it earlier, he's hyper aggressive and that used to work alot back when Kerrigan had rewind and was godlike. It doesn't work as well now when teams are very coordinated and death counts are very low.
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>>160034206
Wtf nigga are you serious right now? Blind is great against AA heroes. What you are saying just equates to

>just cc him
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>>160037202
Any particular talent path I should follow?
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>"I'm here to help!'
>feeds

nice game hotshits
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>>160039279
>"I'm here to help!"
>sucks interspecies cock

nice waifu, faggots
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>Ice to freeze you, kiddo

>You just got served cold hard justice

>I snow you are, but what am I?

>This is going to be a winter's breeze

>Is there a draft in here or am I just that cool

>When I play I go blizzard

>Youre freeze to go

>I can ride my icicle with no handlebars

>I scream you scream theyll all be icecream

>Winter takes all
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Best waifu coming to counter all the meanie auto-attack heroes
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Just started playing Gul'Dan. Holy hell this hero is fun.
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>>160039574
Is Jaina autistic?
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>>160041378
>>160039574
No, she's cute.
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>>160041361
I know right. What builds are you going with?
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>>160041924
Whores aren't cute anon.
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>>160042790
Jaina is cute! That is just some buttmad horde players fantasy.
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>doesn't let me pick a character in hl
>leaver queue for 3 games in qm
like wtf I couldn't click on any character for the full time I was able to pick
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>>160043272
And it's worked before?
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>>160042490

I've been trying out the Drain Life build but find it lacking. Think I'm going to go with the Corruption/Horrify build instead.

How about you?
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>>160043159
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>>160043589
Yeah, that's about what I've been thinking. Drain life would need a talent where it becomes % based for it to ever be a situationally viable basis for a build, and that's only against certain team comps.

I've found that the Corruption talents at 1 and 16 go insanely well together. Combine with more mana at 4 and less cooldown at 7 and you become a problem for their assassins and healers.

Horrify is pretty must always the way to go, and especially the level 20 talent is crazy powerful. Probably the best in the game.
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>>159954782
ESOTERiC

This is not ESOTERiC posting
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>>160044381
Lili fag, I'm gonna take lili to master and then she will never love you again.
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>>160044759
She might carry you, but her love for me will never stop.
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>>160044381

I only went with the Drain Life refresh build to keep poke harassing with Corruption, but it's just lacking in damage and doesn't synergize well with other talents. Also Gul'Dan gets blown out by knockback abilities so Drain Life is pretty useless in those scenarios.

I agree with Horrify. It is arguably one of the best talents in the game.
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>barely play for a year
>eh maybe i can buy some of those heroes i used to want
>sylvanus, zeratul and morales still 10k
>every other fucking hero I've bought is now 4k or 7k

nice fucking memes dude

amazing
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>>160045828
rofl get meme'd shitter
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>>160045828

>>159937247
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>>160043438
Selecting characters always worked I don't know what this was, it just wouldn't let me pick anything
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>>160046419
The text field for the filter or whatever probably bugged out.
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How long do we have to wait for another fun and cute hero?
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>>160046872
late january or early feb for Valeera
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>>160047034
Fuck I hate Hearthstone faggots.
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>>160047220
fuck you, she's not from hearthstone
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>>160047034
>4 warcraft heroes in a row
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>>160047315
What do you mean?
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>>160047436
Valeera first appeared in the same comic that introduced Rehgar and Varian as we know him today, she was then added to WoW, and THEN used as the rogue rep for Hearthstone.
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>>160048870
That's fucking stupid for a stupid bitch hater like me. Anyway, what would her kit be? The 'lets waste a rogue slot' kit.
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>>160049681
a mix between ass/combat rogue
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Another proper tank when?

Varian is a shitty meme and Anub+Diablo are in dire need of either a rework or buffs.
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>>160047406
>"Oh, you like thi-? [Praarrrffttrffff brrrppp]"
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>>160050174
What are you talking about anubarak is just fine. The only issue he has is the fact that Dehaka is just a better version of him. So it just emans dehaka needs to be nerfed.
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>>160050956
Are we playing the same game?
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>>160051125
>>160051116
Both are hard cc filled bruisers who are rarely picked on their own and often are meant for a duo warrior strat.
Anubarak was being played comp until dehaka took his place.

I know you guys are bad but damn, I didn't it to expect you guys to go full retard.
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wish leoric had follow through so he could smack HARD like thrall
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Deleted because I forgot one dick.

>>160050956
>>160051305
You're trolling at this point. Dehaka is a waveclearing splitpusher who has 0 mobility but a global. His lockdown is meant to enable your teammatews to pick up kills. He has long cds on his lockdown but a good healtpool and a very bruisery sustainability.

Anub on the other hand has shit waveclear but outstanding mobility, one that rivals Tyrael. He has good low cd stuns and his kit allows him to go backline hunting.

Dehaka is meant for pve style/ early game killcomps. Anub is meant to counter mages or heavy melee comps but he's too shit for that so he has fallen out of the meta.

I'm expecting some bronze retort so letting you know I'm GM.
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>>160051689
>getting baited this hard
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>>160051665
That would go against his overall feel though. He does sustained damage through his slow and drain (can be a bit low damage sometimes though) and he can get super high hp regen with the right build. It's just a shame that mobas always tend towards burst damage rather than small poking. I guess it is more fun that way though, up to a point.
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>>160051689
>dehaka has no mobility
>the reason he is so good is because stalking, which is mobility by the way, means he can be everywhere.
Do you not know what the word mobility means?

Global mobility is more important more often than not, its why no matter how bad BW could be she still would likely be played. Its okay, not everyone got GM like me legit. I wonder how much you paid to be boosted though.
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>>160008986
>>160007534
It's so true. I should've stopped. I don't know why I continued. I was in promo to go to Diamond 5, and now im plat 3.

Why.
Why.
Why do I do this to myself. Last game I had some faggot named Arachn1d, as if that wasn't already a give away for how fucking terrible this kid would be, and I asked him if he could support. He doesn't say anything, but hovers over Tyrande.

>20minutes later
>He has 3k healing done, only heals himself even tho Tryande gets free heals for herself
>always has 100% mana
>uses stun on minions

Why do people play this game if they don't want to win? I don't get it.

/blog
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>>160052502
>doesn't know the difference between globals and mobility during combat
stay dust my friend
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>>160052502
All soloqueue friend.

Dehaka has literally the worst mobility in the game out of any tank except maybe Arthas. But Arthas has a slow. That is without the lvl 1 talent of course but nobody takes that because his waveclear is lackluster without primal agression. Dehaka and Anub don't fullfil the same roles and the reason Dehaka is so strong right now is because we have global meta. Anub on the other hand is so weak because his e got nerfed.

Might aswell say Arthas and Dehaka fulfill the same role. Arthas used to be played a lot but not at Blizzcon where Dehaka saw play.

Hell Anub even was picked as solo tank occasionally while I don't remember a single game where Dehaka was.
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how is nova balanced?
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>>160053390
By having atrocious waveclear, no escape and bad mobility.
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>>160053471
>no escape
being stealthed usually helps with that
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>>160053390
She isn't, she's largely useless. Zeratul is now even more of a better Nova with his rework

Which by the way, how the fuck is it that the same team who reworked Nova, is the same team responsible for these Kharazim, Zeratul, Rehgar reworks and shit? It's completely fucking ridiculous.
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>>160053503
She has to be out of combat for 5 seconds.
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>>160053728
she's still really strong in quickmatch
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>>160053835
Quickmatch doesn't matter and is a mode for retards.
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>>160053962
>tfw don't have 14 heros
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>>160054045
I'm sorry anon...

Just keep in there. For someone new to the game quickmatch is fine. With the event starting next week you'll get 5 heroes for free.
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>playing exclusively ranked/draft
I am sorry...
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>check streams
>kaeyoh
>remember he's a former pro
>decide to check it out
>so bad he can't even properly stutterstep
>american masters
>american """"""""""pros""""""""""
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>>160055145
Why? Its what I do in all games.
CSGO, Hots, Atlas Reactor.
I like ranked its fun.
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Just started playing this today with my friend, I've been playing lol for about 3 years but I've barely touched it in the last 3 months. I'm really enjoying it at the moment and I find it a lot less stressful.

What are some fun assassins to play? (I've been playing the fire blood elf from wow and I enjoy him)
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>>160055567
Jaina
she's also cute
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>>160003329
Lysdexia is NOT invited
>Tfw he's like plat or diamond ranked yet dies 15x as thrall in brawl. I know I'm wood league but holy shit even pizza chaps died 13x as Nova
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>>160055567
When you like Kael'thas you might like all the other mages. Generally high burst ranged dps.
There's Jaina, Li-Ming, Chromie and depending on the build you choose Valla and Falstad but those two rely a lot more on auto attacks.
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>>160055567
>ranged assassins
jaina, li ming, valla

if you wanna try other roles, good beginner choices are
>warriors
muradin and e.t.c.
>healsluts
li li and malfurion

in general, play all heroes that are free till they're level 5 to get some gold
only buy heroes you played before
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>>160055809
>>160056271
>>160056747
I think I've played around 15 games and unintentionally to begin with I only played ranged Assassins. I'm really tempted to only play assassins from now on and see how that goes.

I was thinking of buying the orc with the weebstick since his clone shit tilts me and it might be fun to play as. But I kind of also want to get jaina since she is cute and I prefer ice to fire desu
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>>160057129
Jaina is the best, nothing feels better than blowing someone up with your combo
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>>160057129
Jaina and Kael'thas play similarly
Jaina has more potential burst with her combos but if you don't combo well kael does more damage
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>>160057201
>>160057310
I'll give the coalburner ago once I get the coin for her. I do really enjoy Kael'thas to be honest and I've been having fun playing around with his traits. I think I have him to level 8 now as well.

I do want to get 14 classes to rank 5 but I only want to play assassins so I'm going to just buy 14 assassins
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>>160057310
Not really, KT can play safer, you have to play a lot more aggressively on Jaina. Plus KT can do pretty good poke with his targeted FB
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>>160057129
There's 4 types of assassins which tend to have some overlap. Some of them are multiple at the same time or can change depending on talents.

Mages which are high burst, Ranged autoattackers which have good sustain, Melee burst and melee autoattackers.

I suggest you try Raynor or Valla as danged AA, Thrall for melee burst and Samuro or Illdan as melee aa.
This should give you a good idea of the different types and you'll find what type you like best.
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>>160057843
you should get at least 2 healers and tanks once you start playing ranked or draft mode
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>>160057843
>coalburner
Timely reminder that Jaina is a pure aryan princess.

"I'm sorry, what? Thrall and me? Ugh, who keeps spreading that filthy rumor? Besides, everyone knows I prefer blue over green."
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>>160058123
Can you duo queue in ranked? If so I might be the cunt that only plays one class and have my boy take the fall.

It is more than likely I'll stop just playing assassin at some point.

I never mained a roll or champ in lol and I want to in this.
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>>160058438
Right now you can, but that's going to be changed. Hero League is going to be solo queue only in the future.
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>>160058186
>pure aryan princess
>fucks orcs, tauren, trolls, dragons, dogs, horses, pigs, children and elves
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>>160058968
Maybe I won't play this game then, I want to play ranked but I want to play with my friend as well
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It takes too fucking LONG for new heroes to come out.
I hope hots gets more popular and we'll eventually get a new hero every 2 weeks.
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>>160058971
All fiction
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>>160059204
>literally dated an elf and a dragon
>anduin has a portal straight to her bedroom
>implying she didn't fuck thrall
>implying she didn't fuck rexxar
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>>160059374
>elves and dragons are noble creatures from the dawn of azeroth
>implying there's anything wrong with /ss/
and no she didn't
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>>160059374
Never dated an elf, you mean KT? He was obsessed with her but she rejected him. The only people she ever dated were Arthas and Kalecgos
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>>159862334
Valrian is broken op as fuck ...he gonna be the first 80% winrate champ in master
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>>160059564
>>160059567
>literally got her holes turned into gaping chasms by 3 feet of dragon cock
>pure aryan princess
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>>160059204
A work of friction
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>>160059743
amnesia is p. good
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>>160059734
>what is humanoid form
Come on, now.
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>>160059889
>implying a kinky milf like Jaina doesn't want to try something naughty for once
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>>160059163
It's only getting changed because people are abusing the system to get themselves free rank points and shit. It's an issue.
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>>160059163
There's two forms of ranked. Hero league will be solo only and team league will match up teams.

You can queue for team league as a party of 2, 3 of 5. If you aren't a full stack you'll be teamed up with other parties.
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Why do people not take cocoon on Anub'Arak any more?
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>>160059203
Played this game for 2 years now and I can't agree more. It would be acceptable if there were 80 heroes to begin with, but we used to have fucking 32. The update rate in general is far too slow and the changes they make aren't big enough. There also aren't enough small changes. Fuck everything.
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>>160060290
Deleted? What was it?
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>>160060575
Locust Swarm gives you not only survivability but also dmg. You're in dire need of survivability as Anub.
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>>160060763
cheese pizza
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>>160060763
http://imgur.com/a/3UYm2
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>>160059824
SOMA too
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>>160060925
i need help too jaina
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is zagara only good if you're already winning?
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>>160063005
Zagara is good regardless.
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>>160064082
>>160064082
>>160064082
might as well move the ded over to another bread
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still need to get this one to 750
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>>160064917
onwards
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>>160065092
to the archive
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