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>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm

Old: >>159817461
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DaS3 PvP is for simpletons
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>>159847748
Well then it should suit you just fine lmao

>>159847773
people who do nothing but past images like these when a thread hits bump limit are parasites
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>>159847481
>Face is as ugly as DS2 character creator
Nice attention to detail
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post cute please!!
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>>159847695
>still no link to patch notes
>old thread just labelled "old"
>only "/dsg/" in the subject line
what is this, amateur hour? holy dang
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Fix Dark Souls 3 in 5 or less words
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Just how did From make Demon's Souls so good? This game is simply a joy to play. After that Anon asked for help with Flamelurker, I decided to play a bit again. I did the Shrine of Storms. Put down my Soul Sign and somehow got summoned in less than five minutes.. the summoner sadly died very quickly.
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>>159847919
Was Alonne just a huge weeb who wanted to be a samurai?
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>>159848001
It can't be done, senpai
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>>159848001
Release the next patch sooner
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>>159847934
The God-King strikes again
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>>159848008
From can only make good games when they have new ideas to explore (for example DeS, DaS, and BB).
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>>159848027
yes
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>>159848125

Why? What makes you think there's anything good in it?
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How do we fuck up the meta for good?
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>>159848027
Alone was an actual samurai, who trained a bunch of weeb knights
It's like Karate Kid if Mr. Miyagi taught an entire class instead of just one kid
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>>159848274
>CCS/Follower's nerfs
>bursting fireball buff
>Corona buff
>greatweapon buff
I don't even use any of these but it's a good change.
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>>159848305
I use GFS to ruin everyone's day.
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>>159848392

Are these assumptions or is there proof of this?
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>>159848410
>use a meta weapon to bust up the meta
gr8 idea lad

>>159848443
were you not aware of the patch notes
go check the steam page
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>>159848001
Another year of development time
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>>159848008

Also I just realised you can reverse roll in DeS the same way you can in DaS3. Never did any duels, only invasions. Anyone else already knew about this or used them in duels?
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>>159847934
https://twitter.com/i/videos/796573653915860992

video of scott jund discussing the patch notes if you want to read and hear about them.
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Anyone on Ps4 have a Demon Greataxe theyre not using? Im willing to trade, i just want to have both the Axe and the Fists and maybe even the Old Demon Kings Hammer if its lying around?
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>>159848001
Playstation exclusive
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>>159848476

I was not aware, neat man thanks for the info. Now I'm looking forward to it myself.
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>>159848624
Yeah name your area and password
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>>159848634

A downgrade won't fix balance or content issues friend.
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>>159848728
>Having to make the game run on Xbone isn't a downgrade

Not that guy but the games will never be PC exclusive, so the best case scenario is either a PS4 exclusive or PC/PS4 (which is probably just as unlikely as PC exclusive).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ExrkDGljFE
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>>159848008
Why does nobody ever give any credit to Sony Japan Studio
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>>159849003
I wonder if that's a viable speedrun strat
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>>159848990

Shouldn't be exclusive full stop, no game should.
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>>159849003
DELE T
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>>159848685

Time_to_Oil_Up
Painted World, Rope Bridge bonfire
pass is dsg1
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>''invading as a moundmaker puts you into games with lots of phantoms for maximum mayhem :^)''
>37 invasions later and it has been 3v1 gangbang each and every time

my dark spirit is starting to feel a little mad already
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>>159849236
Maybe try invading somewhere else???
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Which one is better
red hilted halberd infused with lightning gem 472 AR or infused with dark gem 441 AR ?,
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>>159849320

you think i sat and invaded the same area 37 times in a row??? of course i switched it up every few invasions.
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>>159847919
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>>159849413

>I will never be able to use the DS1 dragon form ever again

I mean I liked 2's more and I understand it was more of an armour set than a form but god damn three's form is just fucking atrocious.
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>>159849112
It's already being used in the run.
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>>159849395
>you think i sat and invaded the same area 37 times in a row
I mean I wouldn't be surprised, I know people that do that
what SL are you and what areas did you invade, just curious
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>>159849236
>>159849395
>>159849462

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmRRKgDoxzA
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>>159849112
Here's how they use it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NndV39GFgkw
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>>159849045
The entire reason we got DeS in its current incarnation is because Sony wrote it off as a failure of a project and completely stopped paying attention to it.
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>>159849129
Then you have to accept that compromises will be made and development time will be spent on things other than the game itself so that it can run on all platforms.

>>159849462
>>159849584
Neat, thanks for the links.
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>>159849632

I do except it, I didn't say there was anything wrong with it in the first place, wrong anon.
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>>159849376
uhhhhhh
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>>159849724
>A downgrade won't fix balance or content issues friend.

I guess you weren't the one who said say that, then? Because the game being exclusive would actually indirectly help with those issues.
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Guys I need help. I suck, I have no clue how to fight greats words anymore. I feel like I can't trade or fight any 2hand greatsword user without resorting to my own. Everything bar great clubs poise them, and nothing staggers them except fucking Curved GS and Ultra class weapons.

What the fuck was this great sword buff for?
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>>159850108
You kite them with something that has more range, or you risk a parry.

I play passive with GFS until they hate themselves.
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>>159849376
someone
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>>159849909

Are you retarded?
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>>159850432
Dark. Only other clerics will have defenses against it.
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>>159850489
Yes
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>>159850108
outrange with spears
outhyper armor with onikiri and ubadachi
washing pole running r1s
double avelyn
fire surge spam along with other pyros
fish for backstab
learn which great weapons you can parry and when
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clips twitch tv/lobosjr/HorribleHerdPipeHype

Look what just happened on Lobos' stream...

Lobos gets slabbed with a slice of pizza by his brother, gets real awkward.
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>>159850108
>What the fuck was this great sword buff for?
for keeping things like the saber from being completely overpowered, but since the saber and CCS are getting nerfed, I'd imagine GS are next since there'll be less a reason for them to be as powerful as they are provided that the curved sword nerf is significant

Walking backwards with projectiles works on them, their running attacks aren't particularly snappy even though they have fairly nice hitboxes. Though a GS user can have their own crossbow and all, not to mention a lothric beam or pyromancy if they're using onyx.
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>>159850108
don't trade with a 2h GS user unless you know you have more poise health

So use something that allows you to dodge and quickly smack them as they charge you, most shit GS users will 2h/1h lock on, the real threat are the guys who can corner cut you 1handed unlocked, they're not only immune to parries but they can catch bad rolls and hit you 4 times in a row.

I feel like I'm cheating when I play 1h GS unlocked, it's insanely strong right now with current GS speed and the wide arc swings also great for gank busting shitters who mindlessly charge at you with straight swords.
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>>159850527
>outhyper armor with onikiri and ubadachi
I seriously hope you guys don't do this
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>>159850527
>Double avelynn.

Is this real?
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>>159850534
thanks for the post lobos
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>tfw you invade someone as watchdog
>they try to black crystal you out
>you kill them anyway

almost feels bad man
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>GCFO hits the host+their 2 phantoms as they all rush in on me at once
>phantoms try to mash R1 out of stagger and die to the lava and then I fire surge the host as he runs away to heal
I am fully fucking erect right now
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>>159850669
never ever did i lose by weapon art'in into a hit
the trade is always worth because your hyper armor always stays and opponents' always breaks and you can continue to your combo
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>>159850669
damn why do holy greatswords look so fucking glorious?
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>>159848008
from realized faster king's field + multiplayer elements = fucking cash

miyazaki really had nothing to do with it at all
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>>159851073
I wish I gave the king's field games a chance when I was a kid, I always saw them at video stores but avoided them because they were first person.

Now I feel like I can't get into them cause they look so slow, I haven't tried yet though.
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>opponent kills me in arena
>he dies three seconds later to GCFO lava pool
>draw + I get 'greatest combatant'

???
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>>159851153
they're slow, yeah. but what they lack in combat and fastness they make up for in good level design and lore. also the magic system is WAY better than souls

you could also just watch lobos play them, he has a playthrough of all of the main games up now.
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>>159850669
>>159851052

why is the faith req so high though
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>>159848305
By following the Gospel of Jund and subscribing to him
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I wanna use witch's locks for a build. Should I go full caster or 3 spells and heavy weapon melee?
Any example builds would also be appreciated.
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>>159850669
>1.1k after 3 hits, stunlocked for 2
>in the arena, 40vig +fap2 gives barely over 1.2k
what a monster
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>>159852152
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/113685

That's mine, sometimes I gut out Sage Ring for Life if I feel spooked but it depends on which pyromancies you're maining
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this is the good shit. This is how you win
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>>159852152
If you're gonna get that much dex, might as well get a dark lkss or ags. How you're going to fit all this in a build while being a pyro, not a melee with backup spells, is beyond me. The best results come with low dex and sage+2 or witchtree offhand
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>>159852586
That was pretty cool
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>Been waiting for almost an hour for a invasion at pontiff
>Realized i'm not embered
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>>159853007
thanks brah
this is for you
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>>159853238
Didn'tseethatcoming/10
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>>159853238

unf
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>>159853238
FUCKING TRAPFAGS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>159853238
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OH SHIT
FROM DID IT AGAIN
SOMEONE LEAKED A PIC OF YOUNG SULYVAHN FROM DLC2, MOST LIKELY AN FRIENDLY NPC
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>>159853238
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>>159853290
>>159853315
>>159853367
>>159853405
>>159853687

I have to keep fighting against them too, and every time they show up

FUCKING DIAMOND HARD
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does anyone know when the Soul of Cinder statue is coming out? i fucking need it

not the one that came with the release copy of das3
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guys, how do I make ds3 fun? what is fun doing in ds3? tell me what you find fun doing in ds3
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>>159854180
Pure lightning build.
Sunlight Spear, Lightning Stake, and Lightning Storm.
Either a lightning infused weapon or raw and buffed with Lightning Blade.
Lightning urns.
Knight's Crossbow with lightning bolts.
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>>159854180
im one of the few who loves it more than the other titles, so i just keep making characters and have fun

the undead match is also pretty nito
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>>159854324

what build do you use? stats?
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>>159851530
I think i'm gonna setup PSX and give them a go.
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This bow is absolutely delicious.
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Dancer at SL1 how?
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>>159854447
60 FTH
30 ATT
10DEX for lightning longsword
12 STR (base for cleric)
rest in VIG and END
Use Canvas Talisman
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>>159854598

What sl? 120?
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>>159854562
Stay behind her so she uses fewer oneshot attacks that are easier to dodge
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>people with offhand caestus out the entire match when I don't have a weapon
>they still parry for no reason
why not just 2hand your weapon dude
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can you change the sex of your character at rosaria?
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>>159854762
no
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>>159854662
I've been within one or two hits of getting her so many times, face buried in her ass half the fight. That second phase is fucking brutal.
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>>159854324

are you me?
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Anyone know if you can change what slots your characters are in in DaS1? I swear you used to be able to with CE but it looks like you can't now

My autism demands that my characters are in a nice order
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Is the warpick really good now? I just got three shot by one in full faraam at 40 vig
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Last one only because it confirms that you can still 180 parry shit. I thought they fixed that?
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>>159855075
They never fixed that.
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>>159855063
It was always good, but now it has the poise breaking ability.
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How to be a major pain?
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/113700
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>>159855319
>121

Nigger just fuck right off. Either stick to the meta or go higher and fuck off
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>>159855368
>butt mad over 1 sl
Implying anyone gives a shit about being directly on sl 120
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Just beat the final boss here and man, I'v had a hard time using a Katana Hollow +10. Is there a cheesier way to kill bosses?
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>>159855485
Watching autists sperg out over the "metas" is the best part of any souls game.
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>>159855063
Was it a counter?
>>159854759
But how am I going to be an MLG parry champ then?
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>>159854759
2h weapons often have worse movesets
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>Gandalf with dark magic and a caestus and hornet ring dagger combo
>Guts with an onyx sword and caestus
>ONE PUNCH MAN with a flaming CCS and caestus
>2 Friedes with caestus

I'm starting to think that a character directly named after another famous character is a sure sign that a shitter has invaded your world.
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>>159855319
Why not the +2 versions? Would allow you to shave off some vit for vig. Also, I don't think bows get the 2h bonus, you might want to stay 60 str
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How do we fix Dancer's Enchanted Swords?
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Dancer at SL802 how?
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>>159855638
Hammers, axes, spears, halberds, reapers, Curved Swords, Curved greatswords, and all ultra weapons would like to have a word with you.
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>>159855939
Can people roll out of the wa? If no, it doesn't need fixing. If yes, remove that
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How do we fix this?
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>>159855924
Oh, just to show how it would be by now ng+ of course would warrant vitality changes
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>>159856160
buff it again
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>>159850206
what's GFS?
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>>159856186
But you have life and clo. Although I guess those wouldn't change the stat allocation
>>159856160
It doesn't need to. If you got parried it's either your fault and deserved it or your opponent is good and he deserved it.
>>159856260
Gaylord Fuck Stick
gargoyle flame spear
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>>159856260
Gargoyle Flame Spear
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Optimal starting class for a Dex/Int Friede Scythe user?

Can I afford to go Knight? Or is Mercenary best?

What are the most enjoyable early-through-mid game Dex weapons? Or Should I just do some Quality bullshit through PVE then respec late game?
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>>159856260
gargoyle flame spear
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>>159856260
Gargoyle Flame Spear
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>>159854598
Does lightning builds work under SL120?
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>>159855921
>help, everyone brings out caestus when i r1 spam
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>>159856081
They can roll out of the wa. It used to stunlock for the full spin which was the weapon's only real redeeming quality.
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WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME THIS WAS A THING

LITERALLY NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE
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>>159856160
>Hornet Ring +1
>Hornet Ring +2
Both around the first hour of NG+1,+2
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>>159856516
WAT
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>>159856381
>An opponent pressing one of 2 attack buttons is a green light to be a shitter

Pic related.

>>159856516
That's news to me too.
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>>159856324
she (male) looks like a trap in that pic, looks like testicles between her legs
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>>159856516
>He didn't knew
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>>159856532
>they have increasingly brutal unique animations
0% chance of happening, but that would be sick
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>>159856516
WHAT THE LITERAL FUG
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>>159856516
There were a few mentions. Iirc it works with exile mask for a nice Dr Doom cosplay
>>159856568
Learn to use unparriables
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>>159856640
>HURR DURR EVERYONE SHOULD USE A STR DILDO
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>>159856640
>Learn to use unparriables

When did I say I can't?

I make heavy use of jumping attacks.
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>>159855921
>starting
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>>159856660
>being a retarded faggot
Whips are unparriable too. A lot of dex WA's are unparriable
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>>159848001
Stop trying to be Bloodborne
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>>159856891
>HURR DURR USE STR DILDOES OR DEX WAs
Am I summarising your argument properly senpai?
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>>159856982
Yes but it's not an argument, it's a pointer. You're still a retarded faggot
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>>159857084
The point is that it's a shit pointer, because it's telling him to just flat out ignore most of the game's attacks and weapons. You're still a shitter
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>>159854874
the first part of phase 2 AoE has a weird hitbox, it only hurts very close to the sword, you can get a lot of hits during it and then just run away or roll into the second part
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How the fuck don't any of you idiots know about kick > R1 for dealing with parry spam?
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>>159856836
>XzKr4ToXzX
What would that be a cosplay of?
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>>159856836
>Gatsu with what appears to be a pyro flame and spear
>Rhea from the wrong place with a weapon that's wrong in so many different ways
>Gandalf with what looks like dark weapon and a miracle catalyst
>Artorias with a miracle catalyst
>Zorro with a monastery scimitar
>Xanthous King without a whip
>Kratos with a flaming katana
>Guts with a shield
>Guts with a staff
>Havel the Pursuer
>Solaire the Rock
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>>159857224
Kratos, I'm assuming.
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>>159857224
Probably Kratos, my man
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>>159857224
Sif
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>>159857217
Why would you assume people don't?
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>>159857180
You don't have to ignore them, just not exclusively use them. Once the fisher realises you can use more attacks, he will be reluctant to get a free 600 to the face. You're still a retarded faggot, just because of all caps memetexting. Final (You)
>>159857331
Pyro flame on Guts is excusable if he uses only forbidden sun (which is obviously not the case)
Rhea is not a name unique to Dark Souls
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>>159854550

Too bad each shot costs 800 souls
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>>159856516
because it doesn't look good with any of the helms that do it
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>>159857506
Who gives a shit?
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>>159857583
Imagine if wearing it with sage hat would remove the hat
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>>159857506
You act like money is hard to come by in Souls games.
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Just got back to DS3, what is the arena sl meta?
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What's the best item for casting Great Magic Weapon and I guess Snap Freeze as well with 40 Int?

What rings on a Dex/Int character?
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I've just started using dual wield, and it's tons of fun
But I've read I should spam R1-L1-R1 to stunlock. Why is it better than just spamming R1? Is it faster, does the first swing does more damage? Should I powerstance?

Also, what infusion? I have 50 str, 30 dex, 5 int/fth.
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Got a new PC and had my first taste of DS3. Is there anything I should be aware of when it comes to stats? Like how AGL had an impact on i-frames in DS2?
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>>159858010
Quit playing shit.
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>>159858010
Google tanimura rush. I think it got patched though. And no powerstance
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>>159858074
Leveling VIT isn't all that useful PVE since Heavy Armor's utility is poising through enemy attacks in PVP.

There's no dumb shit like ADP but there's an "under 30%" equip load roll.

RAW infusion is actually useful, poison is completely worthless.
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>>159848001
Less linear, Demon's style checkpointing.
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With the DLC out I'm about to try out DS3

Can a kind souls tell me what the PVP meta is right now?
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>>159852586

Up there is where the lol2scythe WA r1 is really neat. If you have the cat ring that is
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>>159857498
Most Dark Souls Guts build images actually encourage the use of a Pyro Flame and Fire Orb to simulate Guts' hand cannon. It's less important in DS3 since you can use Avelyn and explosive bolts for that effect but still.
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why can fist weapons parry
why are they objectively better than any of the items specifically made for the act of parrying
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>>159858478

I'm better with parrying shields desu
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Anyone know why my DS4Windows wont find my controller?

Fucking driver shite, i just want to play the game
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Can someone show me a few Moonlight Greatsword builds? I've got the general idea, I just want to see how others fill in the details.
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Is Anri's SS still the most stat efficient SS in the game? I know they reigned in the damage a bit, but I remember it being not as much.
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>>159858637
What kind of controller is it
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>>159858637
Have you been using DS4Windows for Souls?

I switched to InputMapper because Souls games won't recognize my DS4 with any other program for some reason.
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>>159858637

>Not playing it with kb m
It took from only 3 games to get the controls right so you better respect their work
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>>159858701
dualshock 4
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>>159856160
Put it back to where it was pre nerf. Then make it scale up for every additional phantom in the world.
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>>159858762
It's not that easy to recover from the trauma of DS1 KB+M.

Some of us never recover
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>>159858779
>Invade
>Get parried
>OSOK because the world master has backup

10/10 game design, send your resume in immediately.
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Is it just me or did DS3's PvE got dumped down in favor of PvP?
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>>159858824

No comparsion desu, DkS3 is really smooth with it and free aiming works a lot better. Didn't try headshots with long range melee weapons yet
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>>159858834
Just looking at their approach to game design in things like BB and DaS3 and trying to incorporate that my man.
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>>159858716
i used something similar for DaS1 way back when it came out to PC but not since

might try InputMapper then, thansk :)
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>>159858865
Nope. PvP is as shit as always.
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Why does Otz have the same voice as OnlyAfro
Are they both part of some memelord race?
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>>159848008
I'd say it's the relatively uncompromising levels, strong emphasis on combat with good scenario d3sign and no levels that are ABSOLUTE trash. I'm glad that they scrapped the 6th Archstone though since the furry enemies looked trash.
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>>159858917
>Just looking at their approach to game design
>First thing you'd do is undo FROM's rebalancing
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>>159858637
you install the drivers that it comes with it?
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>>159848008

Ey did you fight Dragon God yet? Now this is fun...hehe...
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Rate the Haysel Pick, is it viable horse piss or useless dogshit
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>>159858637
I got mine running purely random after reinstalling the drivers multiple times and plugging/unplugging the controller.

Still can't believe that there aren't official drivers for Dualshock 4.
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>>159858865
DS3's PvE is probably the best out of the Souls series yet. Yes, there are some trash bosses but for the most part the bosses are fast, have solid visual design and even the mob bosses have decent mechanics to them.

The levels themselves also have thoughtful mob placement and fighting mobs is actually fun again since they are more aggressive this time around.
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>>159859128

It's shit. Maybe if it didn't have steady chant it'd be worthwhile but into the trash it goes
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>>159859010
yes but the xbox 360 driver linked to a 404 page so i just got it from microsofts site
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>>159859218
does windows recognize the controller without ds4?
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>>159859128
>Still can't believe that there aren't official drivers for Dualshock 4.

Especially after they said that they were going to release some. Instead they made a USB dongle that you can purchase for like $25 because apparently Sony thinks their customers are idiots.
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anyone got any good fashion with alva's helmet? it's got a really cool gladiator look to it but i can't really make it work with much besides its own set
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>>159859279
doesnt seem like it finds it
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>>159859175
I hope you're not including BB in that. BB's PvE shits on DaS3.
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>>159859464
what happens when you unplug and plug it in? does it say anything?
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think i got the controller working, thanks dudes :)
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>>159859542
I haven't played BB yet. And I specified the "Souls series".
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>>159859128
nothing happend first, then i just used what this dude did >>159859128 and it just suddenly worked
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Is Carthus Milk Ring just a meme or fashion thing? Do the less visible roll frames/smoke actually do anything viable, like make rolls harder to read at all or anything?

Also are Mugenmonkey's infusion stats right? It's saying that I'll get more out of a pair of Twin Swords using a Dark Infusion over regular or Sharp infusion with a 40 Dex/40 Int build, is that worth it?
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>Vilhelm casts Vow of Silence if you try to cast shit on him
>he's good at dodging, and cannot be seeded/phantom gangbanged to death
Wow, they actually learned from the DS2 DLC NPC invader A.I.

I hope DLC2 will have good NPC fights like that.
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>>159859574
It's not unheard of for people to include BB in the Souls series.
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>>159859754
I usually make the distinction of "Soulsborne" if I'm talking about both Souls series+BB versus the "Souls series" which is Demon's, Dark, Dark 2, Slashy Souls and Dark Souls 3.
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>>159859725
It confuses people with motion sickness, but it's all just aesthetics. And yes, Mugenmonkey already has formulas plugged in

>meme or fashion
Real Dark Souls players find a way to do both.
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>>159859725
Mugenmonkey datamines his data, so it should be alright
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>>159859725
It just gives you 3 more points in dex and makes you go pomf.
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>>159859849
bad anime man
bad
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>>159848001
We don't
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>He still hasn't done a no summon challenge run
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>>159858824
i play ds1 keyboard only and doing fine. i also know there's a fix for mouse, but i don't know how well that works
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>>159858834
pretty sure he meant on the enemy team
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>>159860240
bleed makes every boss trivial anyways
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>>159860240
what challenge
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I have 40 Int and 15 Faith, using Black Serpent and Black Flame, is Regular Pyro or Parting Pyro better for this setup?
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>>159860301
A turd viewed from another angle is still a turd.
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female dlc enemy slut tier list

God Tier
Sunken

Thighs Tier
Old Iron

Flat Tier
Ivory
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>>159860445
what?
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>>159860240
After my first run in DS3 I summon for some bosses like the Crystal Sage, DSA and Pontiff.
But I did finish the game without summoning the first time through.
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>>159858779
That's such an awkward fix. OHKOs are fine. The problem is parries are too fucking easy and any brain dead idiot will get one eventually if they spam when it's safe.

The problem is you can't punish parry spam easy enough. Kick > R1 only works if they're trying to parry your face and WA combos and jump attacks can be rolled away from unless you're parrying way too late.

If they gimped caestus recovery so it was more like every other parry tool in the game it would be fine because you can reliably punish those with backstabs and kicks and shit. The only advantage it should have is earlier frames, at the cost of less frames over all. Having fast recovery on top of that is just stupid.
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They should rebind left handed moveset:
L1 for left handed weapons - weak attack (R1 analog)
L2 - R2 analog or WA?
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>>159860240
If your first run through PvE isn't solo you're awful anyway. In fact even calling a 'no summon' run a challenge tells me you're fucking terrible at the game.
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>>159859730
I like the 'no phantoms' thing the best, it's such a fuck you to summon abusers
He still gains the HP multiplier for each player but none of the 3 phantoms your pussy ass summoned to cheese him for you can touch him in any way.
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>>159860505
It's a shit idea.
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>>159860240
>challenge
No summons is how your first playthrough is supposed to be

I would argue permafingering as a prerequisite of a clean first playthrough as well
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>>159860710
>He still gains the hp multiplier for each player
He's not a boss so I don't think he does.
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>You still can't parry yourself
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>>159860794
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>>159860782
non boss entities also gain a multiplier for each phantom in your world, and vilhelm is included in that
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>>159860710
>Be faithfag
>Heal world master with literally no risk
>Warmth probably doesn't work on Vilhelm
>MFW
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>>159860794
>You still can't parry a kick that leads to a DS2-style ground riposte

Wouldn't have been hard, FROM
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Why is the Llewellyn Shield the most popular small shield and considered the go-to?

Let's look at the Iron Round Shield, shall we?
>roughly the same physical block %, 67 instead of 68
>62 stability instead of 59
>weighs 2 lbs instead of 3

Why not use the Iron Round Shield as the best small shield that can parry? The only thing the Llewellyn has going for it over the Iron is better non-physical blocking stats (in the 60's instead of 30-40's), but are you really going to be trying to block spells and fireballs and shit? I would never do that, I just need the ability to tank a hit or two from weapons, maybe block some arrows, and have high enough stability to not get guard broken. 62 stability is a huge deal, it's only 4 less than a lothric knight shield, 7 less than black knight shield. It's the highest stability shield that still gets small shield parry frames.

Iron Round Shield for President.
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>>159860729
the point is to focus its function as an antigank tool. i will spell out my understanding of what >>159858779 said because i think there is a misunderstanding. the hornet ring gets stronger effects for each additional enemy player. against a lone host it has the normal effect but becomes say 30% stronger for each other enemy
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>>159860909
because it doesn't look as good
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>>159860909
Llewellyn had parry frames of a parry shield.
I don't know if this was proven or fixed
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>>159860909
>Using any shield that doesn't have 100% phys
What's even the point, MLG MID SHIELD PARRY LMAO?
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>>159860948
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The final boss of the DLC, the Dark Soul.
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>>159860821
They do?
Shieeeeeeett, does this affect regular mobs too?
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>>159861146
>rehash
wouldn't be surprised
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>>159861183
Yeah, it does
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>>159861146
>tfw that looks a bit like Darkroot Basin (the lower bit with a lake next to a higher part with waterfalls)
>tfw that's Oolacile where Manus was
>tfw that's like a giant, 4 armed Iron King
>tfw From like recycling bosses
>tfw that's likely and fits with the lore
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>>159861183
It's pretty intuitive that it would do that. The same thing happened in multiplayer in games like Diablo, going back about 20 years at least.
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>>159860858
Is that Yukaslegion in the picture?
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Hear me out

Dudes it's time to accept that 1-3 take place in separate paintings.
I mean come on, lands converging because..why, how? Does the world have some will of its own? lol
Makes no sense. Someone is puzzling the remaining pieces of the paintings together and thus the lands converge because they are part of the same painting now even though they originally weren't.
It's paintings within paintings and even when you manage to leave a painting, you never know if you ended up in the real world or ever will. Same as with Bloodborne's dream layers.
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>>159858865
I think it was simply that DaS3 is basically a mod of Bloodborne, or a total conversion, if you like. It would've been too much work to take the combat that far away from BB and back to being like DaS so they went for "Bloodborne with shields and more (useless) spells".

That kind of thing is really suitable for PvP but, if it's not to your taste, it's fucking awful for PvP and makes a lot of the game feel like PvP with bots.
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>>159861369
>lands converging because..why, how?

Time & space get fucked up when the Flame fades, this is a recurring theme in the series and why you can summon people from other times/worlds.
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>You will never really know what she looks like
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>>159861436

People entering different time zones is different from the planet changing its form just because
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THE MOTHERLOAD
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>>159861369
The series uses painting because it's an easy way to just tack on another area that's totally different from whatever area you were just in. In DaS1 you can just teleport from an elegant city to an icy crag in the middle of nowhere. In DaS3 you can just teleport from a little chapel to an icy shithole. In DaS2 they had those kings' altars to teleport you (including once to an icy craggy shithole).

Thinking about it, for a series known for its really cool connection between areas, DaS1 repeatedly just teleported you between places with a cutscene. Asylum to Firelink, Sen's to Anor Londo, Anor Londo to Ariandel, Darkroot to Oolacile, Firelink to kiln...
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>>159860981

It doesn't, it's a small shield, it has small shield parry frames which are still good. If you've got some source proving otherwise you could link to it but otherwise I highly doubt it, it has the small shield parry animation and everything.

>>159861023

Medium shield parries are awful, I learned that the hard way, I really wanted lothric knight shield to work but kek they're shit.
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>>159861467
Long ago this would've triggered me but I've gotten this exact drop except with double ears

How many left?
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>>159861448
was that mask ever in the game? It looks sexy as fuck

I'm pretty sure I remember and alternative headpiece but I don't remember what it looked like.
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>>159849129
>no game should.
Strategy games are worthless on consoles.
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>>159861373
Well people liked BB's combat, no? And not having played BB, I'd say Dark Souls 3 is basically more Demon's Souls than any other game of the series(especially now that Hyperarmor is worth shit), but with a better health system and balanced on the fastroll being the default.

Yeah, the rolling can be kinda op, but desu I think the fast gameplay of DaS3 is more what the veterans of the series would prefer instead of the game being balanced for fatrolling newbies like Demon's and Dark 1.
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>>159861519
d-double ears? you can get that?

I need 11 more for DMB, been at it for about 5 hours so I think I've been getting fairly lucky from what I've heard.
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>>159861525
It's no different for turn-based, really. The newer XCOMs actually play better and were clearly designed for controllers. There are loads of SJRPGs like FFT which are great.

It's just RTS that are awful on console - although it's questionable how much of that is strategy and how much is just APM (hence why they're bad on consoles - they depend so much on APM and really quick accurate selections rather than pure strategy).
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>>159861460
>just because

Are you being intentionally obtuse or what?
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>>159861557
It's so fast and hyper, though. DeS is actually ridiculously sedate, slow and deliberate, even compared to DaS1. It's got that BB thing of huge scraggly enemies filling the screen and dashing all over the fucking place. It seems to have a similar contempt for defensive play (outside of rolling around like a ninja 1000 times a second) as BB, where DeS doesn't have that and indeed is perhaps the most "wait for an opening, slowly does it" of the whole series.
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>>159861570
h ͏ ͏ ͏ e ͏ ͏ ͏ h ͏ ͏ ͏ e ͏ ͏ ͏ h ͏ ͏ ͏ e

would be better if you re-spec for a dedicated farming build, at least that's what I did

put on some music or a podcast so you don't go hollow

good luck
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>>159861524
There was a mask and veil but they were very rare drops. Her hair is great though, I hate to hide it.
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>>159861672
I thought that was only from killing aldrich faithfuls

I'm watching manvsgame suck at the game which has been entertaining me while I farm
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>>159861673
The veil is what you get when you get the rest of the set from the invader in DaS2. They annoying make you wait till later for the hat from Navlaan.
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>>159861578
>The newer XCOMs actually play better and were clearly designed for controllers. There are loads of SJRPGs like FFT which are great.
Those aren't strategy games. That's all small scale tactical stuff.

>(hence why they're bad on consoles - they depend so much on APM and really quick accurate selections rather than pure strategy).
You suck at RTSes and have never played a grand strategy game, happy to help.
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>>159861673

I want to sniff her shoes
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>>159861760
Her shoes are stylish and sexy as fuck but that's gross. Footfag pls go
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Poise
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>>159861460
Why is it hard for you to accept that space is fucked up as well as time? Why is one okay for you but not the other?
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>>159861506
Yeah, but you could still SEE Anor Londo from Undead Burg/Sen's.

>Darkroot to Oolacile
It's in a different time and in the same place as Darkroot. Plus it's DLC and not something that is a part of every person's game.

>Ariamis
It was the first map they made for the game and it's more like a "test map" for Dark Souls 1, as they crammed everything that made Demon's Souls maps cool into that one area (notice how it has a lot of familiar elements from 1-1 like Phalanx, cutting down a hanging corpse, the gate and well as a design element from 3-2, the spiral staircase up the tower) and they decided put the level into the game as an extra but had no real logical progress to it.
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>>159861776

Shut up or I will sniff yours next
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>>159861721
>You suck at RTSes and have never played a grand strategy game,
It doesn't matter how good I am at them. I'm sure you suck at tennis but you still know it's not about how accurately you can kick a ball. I know that APM is critical to play at a higher level in RTS, I know that it's more of a logistics test than a strategy game. You try to get an efficient build order and follow certain steps as fast as possible. Unit composition is based around clear counters and then it's just down to micro. To restate that, macro is just logistics, micro is APM and mouse accuracy. Strategy is very slight in it.

Grand Strategy is very similar but only turn-based so you lose the APM/mouse accuracy side of it. There is an optimal way to play those games and it's all logistics with a slight bit of deviation like "My opponent depends on horses for early military advantage so I'll deprive them of horses".
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>>159861842
come at me bruh
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>>159861856
It really shouldn't take two paragraphs to say "there's optimal ways to play a game".
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>>159861670
>DeS is actually really slow and deliberate
Yeah, but it was the first game of the series and people had to learn the base mechanics of the game before being thrown the bigger challenges.

With Dark Souls 3 they wanted to include people familiar with BB mechanics as well as the people used to the old mechanics of the series and I think considering all of it, they do quite well with the game.
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>>159861507

Are medium shield parries really that bad? I feel like maybe if you use something like a spear with long reach and bait them into something like a running or rolling R1 that you could parry people consistently because they don't think you'll parry, right? I mean yeah you probably can't sight parry shit but if you can frustrate them enough with your 100% blocks and only go for specific kinds of obvious attacks so they aren't trying to constantly backstab you I think it could work.
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>>159861965
>katana
meaning hold? does it count the frames from l2-parry or after you trigger it?
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>>159854989
You can. Check the general table.
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>>159861369
If the games were indeed consisting of Paintings, it would explain returning characters like Patches and Andre.
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>>159861959
I don't think it did defensive play elegantly at all.
For a game with no less than 61 shields in the game blocking usually the worst choice you could make against most bosses because they all have multiple attacks that guard break you instantly if you use anything smaller than a great shield. Why bother with any of that when spamming roll is the best defensive option in almost every scenario.
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>>159862070
It doesn't work. I'm pretty sure I have the latest table too. Would you mind seeing if it works for you?
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Posting my poll again. Vote for what you think is the most cancerous weapon in Dark Souls III.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11615432/r

I'm surprised so many people voted for the Washing Pole. That thing is slow as fuck. It's like a slow greatsword without hyper armour that does less damage. I guess people still haven't learned how to parry the WD attacks...
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Should i do any mods for my first playthrough of DaS3?
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>>159862136
A cancerous weapon is more often than not one one that people feel forces them to change their playstyle or weapons.
Most of /dsg/ doesn't like using shields so it makes sense. Same reason they dislike pyros.
I voted gfs
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>>159862136
>I guess people still haven't learned how to parry the WD attacks...

Only shitters will let you parry them. I'm sure only mid-tier players actually think parrying is a reliable tool against a certain tactic.
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Is CE safe to use?
I want to make a new build but I don't want to spend hours on the PVE which I do not enjoy, and I want to rush the game with CE but people are talking about being banned and shit
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>>159862136

It's just the running attack that's annoying. When semi good people use it they know when not to use it because they foresee your parry attempt. Those people just use it to fuck with you and go on your nerves and would do fine with other shit. Fuck em though
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>People on Reddit, including the community manager, think 'reduced attack power' is enough to stop CCS

People are so fucking dumb I want to kill myself. The AR would have to be gimped so bad for that weapon to not be so effective, and if the past is anything to go by, that won't happen.
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What build/weapons does your /fit/girl character use?
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>>159862554
As long as it becomes weaker than falchion and pontiff it's good
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>>159862258
I want atleast the one that switches to PS4 Icons but on the nexus page it says you might get online banned?

is that shit real?
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>>159862554
"reduced attack power" is enough to stop most retards flocking to it, regardless of how much it actually reduces by "it's been nerfed so it must be shit now" is a common train of thought.
so they'll just switch to something else, or memejund will make a video pointing out it's still obnoxiously good due to range and speed and nothing will change.
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>>159862554
>community manager
so a mod?
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>>159862679
No, it's the official Namco community manager
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>>159862368
I don't think parrying is reliable against a good player who mixes up his attacks. However, if we're talking about scrubs who just spam WD attack with the WP or rolling pokes or whatever, parry becomes an effective counter to that.

That's precisely why the parry mechanic exists: to counter spammy, predictable play.

>>159862485
The other option vs the WP WD attacks is to simply equip a shield and hold L1.

Anyway, I agree it's a decent weapon. I'm experimenting with it myself at the moment. I can't figure out whether I like the WP or the Chaos Blade more.
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is luck/hollow weapons still a build? i know people used it before because it was more effective for bleed, but now it seems people just use rouge with a quality build
did they do something to lucc?
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>>159862554
My main problem with the Carthus is that it does so much damage that it wins trades against other weapons. As long as the AR drops to the point where they have to do something else than trading, I will be happy. It will still have the obnoxious recovery time and speed, but they will have to play better. I don't mind it still being a top tier weapon. If the AR drops enough that the other curved swords are less bad compared to it, that will be a bonus. I would like seeing more Storm Curved Swords, Falchions, and Pontiff CS.
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>>159861821
Niggas don't know that space and time are effects of the same stuff
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>>159862576
BKGS with Milwood Set/Lorian's Helm
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>>159862136
>no havel's gs option
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Alright, I expected Vordt to be more of a fight but apparently a +2 Longsword accounts for much.
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>>159862737
I'm curious about this as well.

AFAIK Luck doesn't do that much for bleed. It basically just makes it so that you trigger bleed in 4 hits rather than 5 if you have 40 luck. But Rouge does that anyway.

I have noticed that Hollow infusion gives weapons the highest AR in most cases. So maybe that's worth it?
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>>159860471
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>>159862554
Not enough but AR nerf is needed, dumbass.
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>>159862576
Great Club. It's big, it's heavy, it's wood.
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>>159862730
>I can't figure out whether I like the WP or the Chaos Blade more.

I think Chaos Blade is definitely more fun. It's less cheesy because of its shorter range, but the fact that the R1s combo and do so much damage opens new possibilities other than running attack spam, and it can actually be useful, I find myself using the normal R1s a lot. Of course the running R1s are still your bread and butter, but you will have another viable attack for mixup potential. With the Washing Pole I don't feel like the R1s are worth it, and with the stupid range the running R1s are even better so there's no reason not to spam them constantly the entire fight.
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>>159862838
I wanted to add a greatsword option but I don't know what greatswords are meta.

Don't get me wrong though. GS are ridiculously OP after the buff.
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>>159862925
>havel
>greatsword
you see, there's this thing called a brain. you need to use it once in a while
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>>159862074
Patches is a demon from another universe.
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>>159862918
Yeah I love the Chaos Blade as well but it needs 60 DEX to reach its full potential.

The WA parry also feels much more responsive than the WP or other katanas. Not sure if it's actually faster or just in my head.
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>>159862880
Witch Zullie is still hotter despite not really being in the game.
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>>159862737
>did they do something to lucc?

No, but the extra investment in levels required to make a Luck/Quality build makes it hard to build a character without sacrifices, and Carthus Rouge is so good that you don't lose that much from just using a refined weapon with it. Having some extra AR is nice however, and some weapons benefit a lot from it like Onikiri and Ubadachi. But like I said, you will have to make some sacrifices so it's not very popular at the meta level.
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>>159862730
>to counter spammy, predictable play.
That's exactly why I said only shit players let you parry them. I don't know why you felt the need to explain all that to me. There's no point discussing weapon balance with bad players in mind.

>I guess people still haven't learned how to parry the WD attacks...
Implies that it's a reliable counter against anyone using the WP, when it only works against bad players like you said, and in that case it doesn't fucking matter what weapon they're using.
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>>159862969

Great villain desu
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>>159862969
patches is miyazaki himself
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>>159862951
No need to get snarky about it. I though you were referring to those faggots who stack poise and use GS.

Greatshield turtling, while gay, is not cancerous since it's easy to play around.
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>>159862909
No fucking shit, did I say it wasn't? It just won't change anything if it's anything like the AR nerfs in the past, faggot.
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>>159862969
Patches is actually a real life asshole that enters the Soulsborne universe through the paintings in his office.

It's unclear who it is, but rumors have been circulating underground. You're better off not knowing, though

>>159863085
Nah that's just crazy
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>>159863021
With 60 dex you can also get Crow Quills to its full potential, I run Quills + Chaos Blade on my pure dex build and it's very fun. It's also not very stat intensive so you get more points to play with, or you can make the character lower level.

I think Crow Talons are also nice on a 60 dex build, but I didn't try them as they seem underwhelming.
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>>159863068
>tfw a small dlc quest chain is better tahn the main game and a full expansion.

>>159863085
>Patches is Miyazaki is the Man of Glass
Makes sense.

>People wish for another Souls game
>Get DS3
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>>159863085

Makes sense considering he's constantly tricking us with crap games
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>>159863204
>Lures you in with false hope
>Fucking kicks you on your ass

Oh my god it's true
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>>159863059
Well in my experience I get parried roughly half the time I use the running attack. I don't consider myself a pro DS player but I'm not just spamming the same move over and over. Good players have learned to deal with katana WDs.

When you see a katana user dashing, get ready to parry. The WD is slower than in previous games, you can see the katana user drop their shoulder and pull back their sword. That's when you parry.
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Did anyone figure out what caught people out in the banwave? Embers? Souls? DLC content?
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>>159863181
>>159863204
>>159863232
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>>159863032
>no sacrifices
Not really, assuming all you use is the weeb blades you can make a 40vig 40end 40dex 40luk (with 5 points from your weapon, or you could use another hollowed weap in your offhand for another 5) at SL120.

it's even less points needed for warden's since you don't need to put extra points into str like you would with weeb blades.
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Is Solaire canonically the chosen undead? It just suits the Link the Fire ending too much. He finds his own sun...
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>>159863292

Turns out it was cheating. Who'da thunk it, right?
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If I can't even defeat the crystal lizard at the start with a knight, should I just uninstall and kill myself?
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>>159863362
There are canonically infinite Chosen Undead, since every player character qualifies. Timelines and shit.
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>>159863112
Hey fuck you buddy I bet you use CCS and want it to keep dealing as much damage as it does now as a crutch weapon. Your mom is gay.
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MUST
RAPE
MARIA
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to the we wuz ashen one
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>>159863419
I've put two thousand hours in to this series. Is resetting rebirths at Rosaria or saving twenty minutes of farming souls really such a heinous crime?
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>>159863486
I've finished DaS1, am currently near the end of DaS2 and have finished BB.

I've also played DaS3 before but only got to the first Cathedral bonfire before I stopped playing becaause I wasn't really enjoying it. I've made 3 characters since then but got even less far (this is the 3rd).
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>>159863460
>you'll never rape Maria into your own cockhungry slut
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>>159863508

I never got banned for that and I did this all the time
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>>159863508

Not if you ask me, but I guess From feels differently
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>>159863332
You realise the weeb blades get quite a bit of AR from STR right?

t. hollow luck weeb blade user with 35 vig, 35 end, 35 str @ 120
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>>159863508
That's just as bad as people who play online with god mode and insta-curse, yes
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>>159863508
Yes.
You accept the terms when you first boot up the game dumbass, you should know they don't approve
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If being hollow is the natural state of humanity, how did the dark soul change anything? They were hollows before the First Flame erupted.
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>>159863667

Being hollow is the natural state of the bodies that wandered the lands.
Humanity is the Dark Soul itself. When a humanity piece is inside such a hollow, it's a human. When it leaves, it's not a human anymore. The nigga ghosts in AotA are humans in their purest form.
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>>159863508
Not having infinite rebirths is so fucking annoying. Either you start NG and spend hours collecting ashes etc... or if you have no life like me you just makes several characters at SL 120
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>>159863260
>When you see a katana user dashing, get ready to parry
Once again I don't know why you're explaining this shit to me. You can reaction parry shit loads of attacks in this game, that doesn't mean you'll do it reliably, or that someone can't do mix-ups to throw you off, or just feint and punish you for attempting.

If you're getting parried that often you're not punishing parry attempts enough, or feinting.
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>>159863667
The age of dark, the age of humans, was pretty similar to how we live in real life. Except the gods were told to shepherd the humans and so the humans started worshipping gods and stuff. I'm pretty sure the dark sign is not natural too.
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>>159863736
But here's the thing

>"Human" without the First Flame or any Lord Souls=Hollow
>Human with Dark Soul found at the advent of the First Flame=Undead turning into Hollow

The Dark Soul appears to do literally nothing.
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>>159863667
The dark soul seems to grow and absorb other "light" souls, it's pretty great for humans but when you're not one it's kind of lame.
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>>159863539
How can you almost finish DaS2 but not 3. There's no way that's a more enjoyable game.
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>>159863879
So all these undead going hollow would be fine if they just started killing and eating people whose souls came from one of the conventional Lord Souls?

wtf I hate Gwyn now
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>>159862576
>bks/cathedral knight gs/drang hammers
>deserter trousers,brigand gauntlets
>red tearstone and bloodring
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>>159863886
Not that Anon but I was shocked how long DaS2 is compared to DaS1. I'm enjoying it, but I can see how someone might get distracted and not finish.
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I FUCKING HATE FOUR KINGS

I BEAT THEM IN NG+, BUT HOW THE FUCK IS THIS FIGHT FUCKING FAIR

FUCK DPS RACE BOSSES
I EVEN IGNORE THEIR FUCKING ATTACKS AND JUST MASHED THAT FUCKING R1
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>>159863427
The Lizard is actually harder than the tutorial boss so don't feel too bad.

>>159863441
Yep. Soul of Cinder essentially canonized every DaS1 player who linked the fire, and Ashen Ones are the shitters that made a character but never finished the game.
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>>159863821
>appears to do literally nothing.
How so? You become pretty and still retain your power if you lose your humanity. It heals you to full health, increases your defense, and whatnot.
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>Want to make a Castlevania character
>Make Jonathan Morris because he's one of the few people who uses their whip in their left hand
>DS1 gave you a weak attack and a parry with an off-hand whip
>DS2 gave you weak & strong attacks with an off-hand whip
>DS3 gives you a strong attack and a fucking block with an offhand whip

I guess I'll just make a falconer.
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>>159863821

They weren't humans before the first flame came though, just wandering pieces of beef with a shape we consider humanoid. But they need the Dark Soul to actually be human. And when the fire fades, the pieces of the Dark Soul within people fuck off too, for whatever reason. Maybe it was just never meant to be split anyway, the pygmy just decided to do that.
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>>159864042
You aren't supposed t just mash R1. A DPS race doesn't mean you can just button mash.
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>>159863886
Because it actually plays more or less like a Dark Souls game rather than some sped-up DMC shit. I finished BB (well 2 or 3 endings, didn't get around to trying the 3rd) but it's something I'll never willingly go back to play.

There are all sorts of little control things that annoy me about DS3 and only DS3, as well. It seems really easy to double roll or double swing by mistake. I never got that in previous Souls games.

Also DaS2 is actually very open at first and only becomes linear towards the end whereas 3 stars out basically being a linear beat 'em up like DMC that you just bluster through with your amazing ninja dodges. By the time I get past RoS I just feel tired of the game. Tired of endless mindless R1 spam being the best way of dealing with just about everything. Tired of bullshit enemies like the oil snakes. Tired of feeling like whatever your build is, they feel the same since casting is shit, it's just stunlocking in melee forever. Tired of the feeling that I've done something wrong and should restart and maybe it'll be better next time.
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>>159864078
>Yep. Soul of Cinder essentially canonized every DaS1 player who linked the fire
How many cycles in is DaS 3 anyway? Dozens?

>>159864082
Hollow plus light souls=Lords

Hollow plus dark souls with no first flame=Hollow

1+0=1
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>>159864142
>didn't enjoy BB

I stopped reading your post. Thanks for the (you) anyway.
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>>159864195
Maybe I would if I was a 15-year-old Naruto fan wearing my epic headband.
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>>159864091
>And when the fire fades, the pieces of the Dark Soul within people fuck off too, for whatever reason.
Then what the fuck is the Age of Dark?
This lore makes no sense. baka desu senpai
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>>159863581
Even when hollowed? How much we talking here? Assuming a 40dex 40str 40 luck (30 with 2 hollow weaps) spread?
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>>159847856
It's better to just ask for new threads because when you actually make new threads yourself the thread maker overlords get upset if you don't make them like they want them.
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>>159864193
hollow plus dark soul = pretty human

pop a humanity and you become pretty human

Lords also become hollow if their soul is extinguished.

but I believe that with the dark soul you can become the lord of hollow, meaning you aren't going to end like the lords of light(? I don't remember nito being a lord of light.)
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Solaitre dies, TOTG is dark, Artorias and Ciaran is bad people. Quelag are a bos. Sad guy at Filelink goes nutty after ringing the dinner bells. Gwenevere is an illusion. YOU KILL GWEN AND TAKE THIS PLACE. Petris kills the lady maiden. Lautrick kills the Fire link Bonfire. Drack Sword is good for death. Four Kings is a thing. Sif is sad.
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Any advice on how I can git gud at parrying, /dsg/?

I basically want to take my little wayne shield somewhere and fight real players without any real consequence and get my ass handed to me over and over again until I git gud. Should I do invasions because you can use your 7 estus to get multiple chances? Should I do duels, or 2 man brawls, or 2v2's? What is the best way to practice?

Also any advice on parrying in general? Like you can't just spam parry, I assume there are some tricks to landing parries consistently right? Like baiting certain kind of attacks or something? How does that work? Are there any tricks I can keep in mind while getting my ass handed to me trying to learn how to parry?
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>>159864302
t. God King Lucifer
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>>159864195
If you got into the series for the slow knighty combat then it makes sense. I say this as someone that disliked the way both 2 and 3 played and would have liked them to have maintained the DeS amd DaS's ways.
I can find various fast paced games with better combat than this series, but slower ones are a hassle to find
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>>159864195
>He didn't enjoy vial grinding and load screens.
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>>159864307
>but I believe that with the dark soul you can become the lord of hollow, meaning you aren't going to end like the lords of light
So how is the age of dark anything beyond just the age of ight ending and everything becoming hollow again? What do the dark souls guys gain? Why is postponing the Age of Dark supposed to be morally ambiguous?
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>>159864310
>YOU KILL GWEN AND TAKE THIS PLACE

t. jew snek
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>>159864247

Literally just darkness but it doesn't automatically turn everyone into hollows again either, you for example are still human when you choose the End the Fire ending even though the First Flame is 100% gone
Maybe it's just not worth thinking about
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>>159864354
How is DaS2 that different from DaS1? Especially in the context of BB and DaS3? Not necessarily being rhetorical here (though I kinda am) just wondering.

There are some things like the annoying left stick directing attacks "feature" that differentiate it but not in terms of pace or the "knighty combat" as you describe it. The slow and steady feeling of both combat and exploration is in both, and the sense that you can play as a slow motherfucker Guts type or a faster fencer, a cleric, sorceror etc and they all have their own feel. DaS3 just feels like everyone is Dante.
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>>159864310
stop ;_;

>>159864421
I got the impression that Gwen was using the First Flame to suppress something from the Dark Soul and that humans would become superhuman somehow in a proper age of Dark. Like maybe Manus but less batshit and cancerous.
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>>159864316
There's probably thousands of videos on YouTube that will explain how to parry. It's much easier to watch a demonstration that it is to explain it, I think.

Usually you just bait it with whiffed attacks or punish a player who does the same thing repeatedly. The easiest one for me is when you trade with a player and you both get staggered and you just parry as you come out of the stun, a lot of people fall for that.
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>>159863362
>Is Solaire canonically the chosen undead?

Definitely not the CU of the DS1 MC's world, probably not the CU of his own world. CU's a bullshit title anyways, it can be anyone and there were likely many after DS1.
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>>159864316
Setting up parries is a good start. But the most important thing is getting a read on the opponent. Watch how they react to your attacks. See if they instinctively click R1 after their rolls, or if they jog towards you to attack after you whiff your attacks. Avoid parrying without a good read on your opponents. They'll catch on quick and become careful with their attacks.
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>>159864412
Oy vey it's anudda Oolacile!

>>159864451
This guy is correct.
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Post your absolute favorite weaponfu out of the entirety of the soulborne series
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>>159864394
>So how is the age of dark anything beyond just the age of ight ending and everything becoming hollow again?
because of the dark soul. before there wasn't a dark soul. and now there's a lord of hollows, meaning to conquer the hollow aspect of beings.

>Why is postponing the Age of Dark supposed to be morally ambiguous?
because they needed to shepherd the humans to make it happen and it is a desperate shitty disaster while humans can just be what the lords were but better.
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>>159864514
Obviously in this context I mean "first one (from his frame of reference) to link the flame after Gwyn".

Just seems like pottery.
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>>159864556
Baby's Nail/Scraping Spear combo.
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>>159864556
BB really did spoil us
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>>159863232
>>159863204
don't forget that he hates clerics, was missing in from ds2
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>>159864556
Also my fav headpiece is Sack and gesture is Shrug.
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>>159864564
>because they needed to shepherd the humans to make it happen and it is a desperate shitty disaster while humans can just be what the lords were but better.
Then what was good about the other Lord Souls? Or is it really just everyone having their day and their time is up because entropy?
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>>159864372
>vial grinding
Well just don't die then. BB is ez. Ezest game I've ever played, and I've played all of the Imagine Babies games. It's literally impossible to die in BB if you're awake. When Miyazaki-sama made his magnum opus BB he obviously didn't expect anyone to ever die so he didn't anticipate needing to vial grind if you're basically literally braindead.
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>>159864298
At 40/40/40 O&U have an AR of 441

At 25/40/40 they have an AR of 407. This does allow you to have 40 vig and 40 end at 120 though.

But the other anon is correct. A hollow luck build requires sacrifices in some areas. Either HP, stamina or damage.
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>>159864556
I don't think I've ever had more fun in any Soulsborne game
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>>159864556
BB had the most fun moveset for weapons of all Souls games.
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>>159864649
The other Lords were very powerful, so much that they destroyed the dragons. However after that they couldn't live for much longer, while the dark soul can.
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>>159864451
The combat itself kept the feel, but it was uninteresting for me.
2 just lacks the feeling of preparation and developing strategies to approach areas that the first two games have. You have here and there enemies and enviromnents where it's just not go in and kill everyone, just like BB and 3, but at best you're baiting them. The other games have unusual combat and make the best of it. 2 has unusual combat as well but is too unimaginative with it. 3 and BB are fast paced and if you're into that, that's great, but sadly I'm not. Does it make sense now?
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>/dsg/ goes off on how mlgs from BB is the best iteration of the weapon in the entire soulsborne series
>/bb/ claims the weapon litterally gives them a hard on with each swing, even if you are female.

>make character and level up 20 end 50 str 25 skill 40 int
>get 3x 22.7% physical damage gems
>800~ AR
>Weapon so slow that by the time i get two swings in I could have swung 6 times with saw cleaver

Fuck you guys for making me waste 8 hours of my time, 7 of which i spent farming fucking pigs to level up my stats
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>>159864556
That thing? Seriously? It's an incredibly boring R1 spam engine that trivializes the game both PvE and PvP. Probably BB's most boring weapon.
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>>159864556

Old reliable
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>>159864519

Yeah this is what worries me. That's kinda why I originally wanted to learn how to parry with a medium shield so I could block too but it's so awful, I figured at least with a small shield I can at least tank a hit or two depending on the weapon so it's not literally only for parrying. Feels like if people see the parry tool they immediately start playing around it constantly which is what makes it so difficult to figure out how to git gud with it, idk.
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>>159864691
>However after that they couldn't live for much longer, while the dark soul can.
But why?

Also the Witch of Izalith totally figured out how to preserve life indefinitely for her soul lineage.
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>>159864348
That is actually a really great example. Thank you for helping to prove my point.
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>>159864704
Literally the long sword of BB
But fun to use
Like the long sword
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>>159864703
Mlgs is an overrated meme because a fanservice cutscene.
Just like people who went nuts over artorias GS, Alonne's or 2scythe.
Bloodletter, arm and brocoli are where it's at
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>>159864746
Yeah well Gwyn discovered a way to keep the age of fire going by shepherding the humans into burning like idiots.
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>>159864692
I think you're being a bit too hard on 2 although I do see where you're coming from. Not only can I not really think of a specific example where DaS1 really stands out in terms of imaginitive combat compared to 2 (I mean, shitloads of it is just fighting skeletons or hollows, or the same knights again) but 2 actually has quite a few scenarios where there are environmental things to use.

Poison jars you can get them to run through, trap floors in Iron Keep, levers that drop them into lava, that guillotine, spiked walls, more use of exploding things you can shoot with fire arrows, those little funny exploding barrel guys you can use to kill other enemies, water level rising in the Sentry fight... the list goes on. There's also interesting exploration-based stuff like how you can enlarge the Dragonslayer arena with levers, lighting Sinner's room, fighting Pursuer early, setting fire to the windmill to remove the poison, Smelter hammers to remove the idols...

All those things are great and make it feel more RPGish than just at corridor brawler.
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>>159864681
Well fuck me now I feel dumb for using wardens when o&u do way more fucking damage and gets ludicrous bleed on top.

I mean I like my warden's build so far, but that ar and the fact it does everything my weaps do but better makes me want to level up and respec for it.
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>>159864709

I feel the block one hit, then parry the next only works in PvE, as I'm not good with it and find it unreliable.

What helped me git gud with parrying is to not overly rely on it. If you have a Llewelyn Shield out for example, and you held off parrying for about a minute or two in a fight, more often than not, the guy you're fighting will let his guard down. It'll be easier to read him and land a winning parry-riposte. You should start off with a parrying tool you're comfortable with. Llewelyn Shield is good, comfy, and pretty /fa/.

I also suggest to never equip hornet ring. From my experience, having it on made me rely on parry more and just ruined my rhythm in fights.
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>>159864692
DaS2 doesn't make use of the environments when it comes to the combat nearly as well as Demon's Souls, Dark Souls or DS3 do. The combat in Souls games rarely in hard in itself, but situations are often interesting due to the way the enemies are used in context with the environment and each other.

DaS2's problem was that it didn't understand this except for a few levels and as a result the combat was fairly lackluster.
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>>159864873

So, if I remember the DkS1 intro correctly, the hollowing of humans happened before the fire really started to noticibly fade? The kingdom was still intact enough for them to hunt and lock hollowed humans away. What if the Dark Soul recollecting itself is what causes the fire to fade in the first place?
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The day I can emulate DeS is going to be a good day
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>>159854759
>They have an offhand simply ebin parry weapon
>I have the motherfucking great axe
>They don't put it away

>They learn
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>>159864873
>>159865098
I'm way behind because I'm new to this franchise so tell me if this crackpot theory already exists:

Hollowing of humans is caused by a disequilibrium between light and dark. Normally the Age of Dark wuold already have happened and humanity would be fine, but since the Age of Fire has artificially extended, the burgeoning dark souls are weakened and repressed, insufficient to maintain the humanity of its vessels, leading to gradual hollowing.
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>>159865015
Dark Souls 2 is secret best Souls game.
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>>159865154
Yes because it means you'll be the first human to have lived to 300.
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How come there hasn't been any difficult bosses in the series outside 2 of the 3 from Ivory King DLC?

I'm speaking from a SL1/BL4 perspective, but how come there aren't any Ivory King/Lud and Zallen bosses in terms of difficulty? That came out late 2014. Two years ago
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>>159865098
In the intro they say that the age of man and dark came, and THEN gwyn became afraid of it and started to shepherd the humans. Probably with religion and shit. This doesn't mean HOLLOW humans, just humans in general. I don't know about hollowing humans but the age of humans wasn't just about hollowed humans, it was about pretty humans.
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>>159865041

My problem is I love pokey weapons a lot, I mostly use rapiers and spears, so I often pull out a BK shield and backstab punish all the time because people will 9 times out of 10 unzip the parry tool and just make the most obvious parry attempts all the time.

I was reading earlier in the thread an anon talking about iron round shield having better stability so honestly I might switch to that, I basically want the highest stability (and to some degree, physical block %) shield that still has small shield parry frames. I want a shield that isn't just for parrying only but can also block at least 1-2 hits when I need it to and not guardbreak, taking a bit of damage that leaks through is fine as long as I don't get guardbroken.

Like, lothric knight shield would be ideal if it had small shield parry frames, is what I'm saying.
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>>159865015
Brume Tower was a better execution of those concepts than the base game was. Iron Keep had cool ideas but the level didn't feel as much of a real environment where you can use those environmental hazards through natural gameplay but instead it felt really videogamey in a bad way. Contrast to Forest of Fallen Giants where they used the gunpowder keg traps in a way that made sense.

And Brume Tower actually felt kind of like a real factory and those "traps" had an in-universe reason to be there.
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>>159865098
I think the hollowing happened as soon as the fire started to fade, just not symmetrically. Some people hollow faster than others, and the more the First Flame fades the more people turn undead, and the faster the undead hollow.
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>>159865315
Yeah, it did feel very artifical. It reminded me of a cross between the Crystal Maze and Bowser's Castle.

I do still appreciate how they even considered putting in those environmental elements, though, and the slight Metroidvania element of turning off the fire and getting that key, or eventually being able to survive running over lava to pick up those really worthless items.
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>>159865307
Evidence seems to suggest that unrestrained humans in an age of dark will be really strong. We already know from the whole undead thing that they're functionally immortal so long as they have access to humanity. And Oolacile, the Four Kings, and Manus showed how different a human-glutted person is from the baseline.
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Dark Souls II is the Furtive Pygmy.
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>>159865335
Wait, do you think that might be because Nito's power was fading? He's the lord of death and decay, meaning hollows instead of decaying just hanged around. Why did I never think of this?
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>>159865424
My penis is the Furtive Pygmy.
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>>159865427
Nito's soul came from the First Flame. The First Flame is fading. Therefore the sphere he defines and embodies (death) begins to lose definition, just like time and space. This seems to have been accelerated by some ambiguous thing Pinwheel did that fucked up Nito even faster.
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>it's another "trying to make a new character and get invaded at a low level by a twink with a carthus curved sword" episode
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>>159865293
PS3 emulation seems to be coming along nicely, though. I doubt we'll be able to play any decent titles for a long while, but still.
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>>159865176
I've been maining the greataxe with massive amounts of autism since day 1 when I learned the 2hr1s were 100% unparryable

Fuck parrying. Fuck parryfags. Fuck the hornet ring. Get executed, shitters.
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>>159865028
Yeah O&U just seems superior to the twinblades in almost every way for PvP.

The Onislayer WA is amazing and it has the standard katana moveset which is pretty good as well.

Not quite sure why some people choose the twinblades over them. Aesthetic choice or is there something I'm missing?
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>>159865015
Oh yeah, and the torch stuff with spiders and those monsters in No Man's Wharf. I also like little RPG things like how lighting all the lantern things in the Gutter caused a special NPC invader to spawn (in SOFS at least).

I think the NG+ stuff was pretty good, like Freja showing up early, and new enemies being in boss fights, though I can't remember what DaS did for NG+, to be fair.
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>>159865503
Reminder that Memezaki is a huge fan of the Glorantha setting. In the Gloorantha setting the world almost ended when Chaos leaked in. Chaos's main effect was destroying boundaries and disparity. There is no time, no light, no dark, no light, no death. Everything is blurred together

Sound famliar?
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>>159865414
>Evidence seems to suggest that unrestrained humans in an age of dark will be really strong.
Maybe the giants from das2 are just very big, strong hollow men. They have a large hole that suggests hollowing too.
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>>159865427
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>>159865554
>Fuck parryfags. Fuck the hornet ring.
>*teleports behind you with a roll into a shieldpoke backstab*

You cannot escape the power of the hornet ring, ultra weapon shitter! Muwahahahaha!

Psssht, nothin personal, kid...
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>>159865554
I remember when those pics where everywhere on 4chan, though not animatmed. Fuck I feel old. I'm going to die.
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>>159865581
DaS didn't do much for NG+. DaS 2 is the only one where the real game starts in NG+.
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So

someone tell me about..

offhand heavy weapons
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>>159865646

Don't worry anon. Everyone will die, some day. You're not a special snowflake.
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>>159865626
>They have a large hole that suggests hollowing too.
We never see Gough or the smith's face. They probably just naturally have that hole in their heads.
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>>159863496
WE

WUZ

LORDZ
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>>159865554
>Artorias_invades_farron_ganksquad.gif
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>>159865554
>shitters

Parrying actually takes skill unlike mashing R1 with a greataxe anon.
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>>159865597
DaS reminds me more of the scientific concept of universal heat death.

First there was nothing, then an explosion of heat (Big Bang, obviously), then things actually happened, time actually existed. But in time the fire will burn out (like how all suns, all energy, will one day be extinguished) and there'll be nothing again, just a void.

I've seen it used in some pretty mainstream things in Japan too, like it being the basic plot element of Madoka. The nigger on the left is trying to relight the flame over and over.
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>>159865727
We do see the DaS1 giant's face. You know that large giant in the sewers of DaS3? You can clearly see his mouth and nose because his mask doesn't cover everything.
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>>159863496
Is this from the guy that was doing a bunch of characters? Does he upload them anywhere?
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what if wolnir was a nigga
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>>159865818
Only racists would be able to beat him.
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>>159865761
>parrying takes skill

show me with the doll where the great axe cleaved you
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>>159865806
Yeah. I haven't uploaded them anywhere, at the moment. I'm planning to redo everything because I'm not happy with what I've made so far.
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>>159865684

You know how heavy weapons like yhorm's are only good for their R1 attack and that's it? Now put them in your offhand and they still do that, except now you can use a fast weapon in your main hand that can do more than just R1. Also dual wielding in general is about being able to mix up your timings, moveset and reach. For a while I was using a gargoyle FS in my main hand with an offhand AGS because it had great horizontal attacks with good damage at a relatively low weight, and also had a slower attack speed, so it was great to combine with my spear for when people tried to roll around me.
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>>159865727
The DaS1 giants have actual faces, which you can see through the slats of their helmet. Going a step further and removing the helmet entirely shows it quite clearly.
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>>159865562
Probably because warden and sellsword aren't located near the end of the game.

Sellsword is a starter weap ( or found in crucifixion woods) and wardens is right after in Catacombs though you have to farm it up.
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>>159865928
Comparatively in DaS3, this is all you can see of their heads. It could either be a hole like the DaS2 giants or simply just the mouth.
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How effective is the white branch?

I kinda want to go into the crux woods and turn into something after finding a good hiding place where it would fit in pretty well, with way of the blue on and a seed popped. Then just chill out and watch a stream in my 2nd monitor and if someone actually comes near me I jump out and beat the shit out of them with my swordspear.

Thoughts/suggestions? Also do seed drops stack or can you literally only get 1 seed dropped at a time, even if you kill like 20 invaders in one session?
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>>159865427

Hollows existed even before Nito did and yeah it might be possible that people were able to die at all because Nito existed, he made them mortal.
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>>159866226
How could hollows exist before Nito when the only thing that existed before him was dragons and archtrees?
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>Swing at someone with an axe
>Blade is nearly scratching the playermodel
>Nothing

>He swings back with his weapon
>Weapon is visibly missing me by about a player model's width
>Connects

I really just don't understand

How the fuck is it that my swings are spot-on in terms of hitboxes with absolutely no latency coming into play and they get to swing at where I was a few moments before and have it connect
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>>159866245
How did hollows find the souls if hollows didn't exist before Nito, dummy.
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>>159866245

Hollows picked up the Lord Souls, you literally see it in the intro. All Lords and humans were hollows before they received their souls
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>>159865928
To be fair, one could argue that those are golems, not giants.
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>>159866247
You receive updates to your game based on where the game thinks the other guy is. He receives updates to his game based on where the game thinks you are. If your internet isn't 3rd world tier, the game knows where you are frequently. If the game is getting the idea of where he is every 250ms, it leads to a lot of absolute bullshit scenarios like you listed. Think of Overwatch and its absolutely retarded "FAVOR THE SHOOTER" system. Its a bit like that.
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>>159866135
Seed drops do not stack, there will only ever be one at the tree, but they DO stack in your inventory. Always check the tree when you return to the nexus.
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>>159866245
Hollows are not dead. They are just empty, immortal husks.
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>>159866374
lol

we can call them both giants it doesn't mean they are the same thing
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Casters in brawl/co-op arena pvp seem a bit OP don't you think? I'm practically one shoting almost everybody from a distance...
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>>159866525
Sniping kills with spells and one-shotting people in the back is easily the most effective way to play in the brawls. I think it's fine because it's the only time casters have ever been able to shine in PvP.
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>>159865885
Parrying requires timing and knowledge of the game and various movesets.

Mashing R1 with a greataxe does not. A monkey could do it.

Also I honestly don't think I've ever lost to a greataxe in this game. Shit weapon for shit players.

>>159866009
Makes sense. I thought maybe the twinblades had better bleed buildup or something.
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>>159866525
>tfw that's a boy
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>>159866804
Hitting someone with a greataxe requires skill though.
The skill of fighting paraplegics.
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>>159866374
The only thing we have that weighs in on that ingame is the Blacksmith Giant Hammer, which you'll note refers to him as the "giant blacksmith", not the "golem blacksmith".

Of the DaS1 golems, both types are made of clearly inorganic material. There's nothing that really suggests the DaS1 giants were golems except retrospectively trying to explain them after DaS2.

Admittedly, in DaS3 the Giants are referred to as "Golem" in files, but in DaS1 the Giants were simply referred to as "Giant".
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>>159866898
>Hitting someone with a greataxe requires skill though.

Did you know there are other buttons on your controller than R1?
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>>159865765
>First there was nothing, then an explosion of heat (Big Bang, obviously)
But that's not what the actual big bang theory is. First there was a singularity. A singularity is not nothing.
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>>159865707
>he's not pumping himself full of nanomachines so he can live forever in God-Emperor Trump's galactic Reich
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>>159865928
That's placeholder crap.
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>>159866980
Did you know there are other buttons on your controller than L2?
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>>159866732
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DaS 3 MMR when? I'm practically 9k at the moment.
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>>159866732

This has been happening way too often lately, people just fucking give up after getting dumpstered.

Corvian GK + Bloodring too stronk.
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>>159867091
Yeah I press R1 after the L2 and sip my coffee while I watch shitters get 1 shotted.

If you get parried you got outplayed. End of story.
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>>159867007
Well dragons and trees aren't nothing either. I just mean nothing compared to the universe as we know it. No planets, no rivers, no countries, no TV shows, no German people, etc. Like a zero state before it began. Basically the universe goes from a primal unchanging state to the state we know now, but is on a timer and will die eventually. That's all that seems to be happening in DaS. It's a fantasy version of the Big Bang and UHD.
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>>159867061

We don't have that yet, anon. But if Trump can make Anime real I'm sure he can pull that off too, if we don't have that within the first 100 days I'll be disappointed.
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>>159865554
Its rare for me to fight greataxe fags. I was thinking of a strength/pyro for the demon great axe/club
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>>159867106
t. sub 2k shitter
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>>159867106
You say that as if it's some sort of achievement.

The arena is full of the shittiest shitters.
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>>159867106
>no losses badges that uses the same calculations from wins but reversed
>it's just a collection of Patches' faces that mock you more and more as you lose more

One job, FROM
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>>159867264
I havent done much arena. Hows it compare to sl120 pontif?
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>>159867190
Do you knock your cup on the brim of your fedora?
I find that's a problem, I keep forgetting to tip it after kills.
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>>159867079
That's the ingame model. You can even partially see it without removing the helmet.
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>>159866804
Difference of one point, warden with 34 and weeb blades with 33

Basically no difference. Might not get called as much of a tryhard of you pick warden over o&u though
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>>159867194
Yeah that's just a pet peeve of mine. My other big one is anything resembling a concept of an "evolutionary ladder".

It's a good analogy really because there's no meaningful informational content in a singularity except mass. Everything is undifferentiated.

>In the Age of Ancients, the world was unformed
>Then there was Fire and with Fire came Disparity
etc etc
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>>159867363
Way better players at Pontiff.

I don't know what it is about the arena but it seems to attract scrubs.

I probably only lose 1 duel out of 20 in the arena and I consider myself an average skilled player.
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>Undead Settlement

Christ, how can one place be so labyrinthine? I guess its more or less this game's Blighttown.
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>>159867123
It's the equivalent of stage diving in Smash. Pure sodium.
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>>159867435
You'll get called a tryhard for using a bleed build anyway.

These days you'll get called a tryhard if you use anything but a wooden hammer or a souldering iron.
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>>159867363
There's no real difference from what I saw post- dlc patch in pontiff. Shitters and good players, but mostly shitters.

In reality from the 300 or so Arena battles I've done, there has been a huge variety of weapons, more than I saw at pontiff. By far the most dominant is Onyx greatsword pyro flame offhand build. I have no idea how popular it is at pontiff, but that's the new scrub setup I'm seeing.
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What's with these dogshit ENB streams lately ? Just a bunch of failed BB speedruns, one after another.
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>>159866732

I SAID POST WEBMS DAMMIT
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>>159867606
guess he wants to play bb but not entirely
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>>159867590
>the most dominant is Onyx greatsword pyro flame offhand build. I have no idea how popular it is at pontiff, but that's the new scrub setup I'm seeing.

I dunno about dominant but it's definitely the most common.

Good thing I shit all over pyrocancers with my 2kat build.

*jumps over black serpent*
HIYAAAAAAAAAAA
*slices you into a billion pieces in one second*
*sheathes katanas*
pssh... nothin' personnel
*teleports away*
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>Play a match of arena
>First guy is using a halberd + avelyn
>Stop playing arena
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>>159867606
He was super pissed on yesterday's stream too, to the point where people were telling him to chill.
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>>159867435
>>159867584
Can confirm you'll be called a tryhard for using warden blades.

Just use sellswords and buff them. You'll do more damage than warden bleed but retards wont say anything.


dsg official fair and balanced weapons include the following:
great hammers
daggers
greatlances
fists(but not claws cause those are op!!!)

anything else is tryhard meta shit
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>>159867737

I don't have any new webms
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>>159867846
Why was he pissed ?
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>>159867843
>halberd + avelyn

People really do complain about everything these days...
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>>159867737
you also said new.
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>>159867882
Getting cucked again for sure
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pcfcbf
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>>159867815
More like
>jumps over black serpent
>immediately black flamed for massive damage because you dared to counter attack
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Post underrated weapons.
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>>159867882
I assume it has something to with the bright orange shadow looming over the US.
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>>159867950
>>159867878

Then make new ones already! Gosh!
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>>159867843
>>159867892
>halberd + avelyn

This guy probably fucking hates pyromancers

the good news is he will rarely lose to them ever again
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>>159868006
Onislayer stuns them m8.

Big Hat Logan made a video on using O&U to counter pyrocancers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0k4azSN15Q
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So whats the consensus on the AoA weapons?

I want to know whats good, and whats shit, especially the trick cool weapons like Friede's Great Scythe, Crow Quills, and Valorheart.
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>>159868281
Just use the sabre you dumb meta baby
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>>159868281

They're all great it just depends on how you use them.
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>>159867737
I don't really have that many

this is from halloween
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>>159868681

Well I haven't seen it before, so that's fine. I'll take what I can get.
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>>159867765
He probably wants to avoid getting to the Lossm.jpg part.
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>>159868231
>Black flame is so fast it's actually a legit punish after the caster gets hit

Jetuth Cwithe

I myself always keep a distance against pyros cause I don't know how to deal with them but that's extremely fast. Visions of dark souls 1 black flame
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>>159867584
>Use Dancer's Enchanted Swords
>/dsg/ calls me tryhard
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>>159868826

Just carry an offhand arbalest, or knight's xbow with lightning bolts if weight/stat investment is an issue. It's great just in general too but you can just outright hardcounter pyros that way, even greatswords to a degree.
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>>159869172
Is there an edgier attack in the series?
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>>159869287
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>>159867892
with the halberd buffs coming, halberd/Xbow might actually be really fucking good, the rolling attacks on the regular/red hilted halberd outclass the spear and the sweeping 1hr2s fuck people up pretty bad, the only thing lacking on them is the AR and the weapon arts
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>>159865516
>carthus curved sword

Don't worry.
That meme will die tomorrow.
I hope the next meta is less cancer.
>inb4 they buff the laser disc too hard and we start seeing a million Krillin cosplayers
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wait. i haven't played for the last months. is poise a thing now??
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My old wired 360 controller finally died, what controller for PC is recommended?
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>>159869469
poise is basically hyper armor
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>>159869469
Yes, but all it did was make pyros invincible and ultra weapons are even worse
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>>159869508
Xbone

Not much more expensive than 360, but feels way better
At least imo
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https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/113855

Rate my build
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>>159869508
Xbox one or ps4.
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>>159869508
which ever controller you like
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Do someone have a black knight greataxe they don't mind giving?
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>>159869508
Xbone is the best gamepad on the market right now. The Elite version is disgustingly expensive, but by far the best.
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>>159869667
Starting up my Wiiu.
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Help me guys. I find the first area of DaS3 harder than just about any area in 1 or 2, no joke. It's such a tough slog of me doing fuck all damage while they kill me in a few hits. Throw in a few bullshit "harsh but fair xDD" deaths and it's just an awful experience.

I really want to enjoy it but right now it's one of my biggest buyer's remorse experiences ever (had it since it came out, too).
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>>159869287

The slutty witchy enemies in the iron DLC had this extremely edgy throat cutting attack. At least I think it was them.


>>159869172
>>159869316
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>>159869710
>>159869667
PC
highwall
pass: bknig
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>>159869667
Booting up my Switch.
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I want to make a Solaire character for invasions, coop and so on.

What would you say is the best name for it?

Solaire without anything is kind of boring.
Knight Solaire doesn't work because Knight gets censored.
And Solaire of Astora is too long.
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>>159869667
I dunno why you retards constantly need to be spoonfed.

>GAME
>PLATFORM
>LOCATION
>SOUL LEVEL
>SOUL MEMORY
>PASSWORD

If you can't even provide basic information how do you expect anyone to help you?
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>>159869753
Fug I'm on Xbone. Sorry, but maybe someone else will help you.
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>>159869774
>knight gets censored

Still cracks me up every single time.
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>>159869774
Artorias
>>
**ly K***ht **drick
C**sen Und***
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>>159869774
I AM THE SUN
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>>159869783
calm down son
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>>159869448

It worries me that they said they'd give it less attack power because I assume that just means they're lowering it's AR, not it's attack speed which is the main problem. It needs an estoc-tier speed nerf. If it's going to still be fast as fuck with the super broken ez roll catching ability they better put a SIGNIFICANT dent in it's AR or it'll still be cancer, like the dark sword.

I'm just hoping my spear and board setup doesn't become meta because literally the only thing that threatens it is curved sword shenanigans (even though I can technically just swap my shield for an estoc and counter the curved sword... but if curved swords are nerfed to shit then I wouldn't even need that).

I mean seriously how do you counter a GFS or DSSS and BK shield used by a good player? You can't parry it because I'll just turtlepoke bs you until you're dead with no drawback (if you attack when I run at you it just hits my shield once or twice and I back off, unscathed, and do it again until you parry or prove you'll never parry and I can get at least 1 running R1 into you or get up close and normal turtlepoke R1 stab you to goad you into throwing out a parry allowing me to backstab you in recovery frames).

You can't get through the shield, kicks are slow enough to roll around and punish with a free hit pretty easily, spears outrange everything... if people figure it out it'll be super cancer.
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>>159869701
what's that in the case? cosmetic or other?
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>>159869959
>Shield

my whip/man-serpent hatchet says hi
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>>159869959

Forgot pic, whoops.
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>>159869953
Nigger, there are entirely too many games with that weapon.

>dark souls 1 on PC, PS3, 360
>dark souls 2 on PC, PS3, 360
>sotfs on PC, PS3, 360, PS4, BONE
>dark souls 3 on PC, PS4, BONE

Fourteen different games, you dumb faggot. Just tell people which one you're on next time.
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>>159870016
It's a nice marketing idea to make it resemble a case of surgical tools so braindead Amerifats take the implication that it'll help them pwn nbs with surgical precision. Must be such an easy job being a marketing guy in the US.
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>>159869783
Calm down, man, I just forgot it.

No need to get all agressive
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>>159869959
A shield of your own. 1h spears bounce off shields, so using one forces you to 2 hand it for a shieldless moveset
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>>159869926
interesting meme, but you could do better. 4/10 for your troubles. caps don't get censored
>>159869774
which brings the question, isn't solaire's name full caps as a phantom in1? you could do that. or you could go full memester and name him "My Sun's son"
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>>159869774
>it has been approximately 6 months, 28 days, 10 hours, 33 minutes, 12 seconds and counting since the worldwide release of DARK SOULS™ III and people STILL don't know how to use accented characters to bypass the name censor

Kñight Solaire

alt-0241
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>>159870154
SOURCE
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>>159870109

True, but I just whip out the offhand xbow for you pyro faggots. Also man-serpent hatchet and shotels in general are shit, I'll just outrange you all day. They're just worse curved swords, worst case scenario I just counter those the same way with an offhand estoc with my mainhand spear.
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>>159870154
I've been looking for this gif for so long
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>>159870142
You're a moron. It's just a carry case.
The paddles aren't cosmetic either.
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>>159869774
GrosslyBlazeIt420
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>>159870168
>shield meta

Can't wait senpai. I use a swordspear btw, it's worth the 18 faith.
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>>159870178

Nigger K***ht
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>>159869959
>SPEAR/SHIELD LITERALLY UNCOUNTERABLE 100% UNBEATABLE

You quickstep behind them and whisper "nothin personnl kid" before they pull the plug because they realize they will literally never be able to hit you and if they dont start rollspamming away with the shield down they will eat bleed damage
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>>159870430

Catching a quickstepper with a spear + estoc dual wield really isn't that hard, famalam. You're better off using bloodring with a greatknife and rolling a lot, which I agree yes is also a broken and underrated build, especially when used with DMB because the scaling on CGK is shit and so you can just raw infuse it.
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>>159869774
This reminds me that it might be easy to Cosplay Sir Vilhem since his name isn't too long nor does it contain banned words.
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>>159870314
It's still designed to look that way, including the layout and positioning of things. You're a moron if you don't think they spend shitloads of money to try to insinuate all kinds of crap with things like colour scheme and design. The vast majority of people that buy that shit will never use any of the add-ons yet they're still thinking they're getting their money's worth for some surgical gaming device.

It's a gimmick sold to American kids. It's why it barely sells outside the USA and why Sony haven't bothered doing an equivalent.
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>using my trusty greataxe
>pyro does literally nothing but surge
>literally

Really? Fucking really?
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>>159870546
the only way you get caught using quickstep is by mashing the weapon art button, assuming little latency and capable hands quickstep is the most broken faggot weapon art in the entire game that even surpasses the retarded combo WAs
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>>159870371
>>159870178
The censoring in this game is ridiculous.

Yesterday I met players called "Cunt" and "Anal Whore" yet for some reason "Knight" is censored.

Somebody needs to get fired for this shit. It still hasn't been fixed.
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>>159870546
>>159870430

Also I posted a bunch of webms of exactly that earlier in the thread:
>>159868097
>>159867737
>>159867123
>>159866732
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Aren't the DaS Giants just imported niggers??
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>>159870219
What kind of retard do you have to be to use an accented n rather than just any number of variants of the letter i?
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>>159870596
>why won't they walk straight into my R1s?
>why won't they cast spells that allow me to punish them?
>how dare they use an effective strategy against me!
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This game needs more curved greatswords
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>>159870674
>Whore
doubt.jpg
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Abyss Greatsword worth using for my quality build?

Just dumping some INT and FTH to meet requirements
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>>159870314
what is it then?
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>Literally everyone does the running jab attack with katana's

Why do people do this? Its so fucking easy to avoid and punish. Its hilarious to get an invader who just keeps doing it and won't change tactics even after they've gone through 7 estus without touching me. Which LE MLG PRO PVP youtube faggot told everyone to do this?
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>>159870363
Really? How do you use it personally?
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>>159870803
really hoping for some unique one in dlc2
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>>159870906
I made the same comment earlier. Katana running R1 is the easiest shit to parry in the game yet some people still complain about katanas being OP.
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>>159870803
This game needs the curved greatswords it already has to not be garbage
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>>159870674
"Whore"
Gave yourself up.
Anal might not trigger the censor due to the capitalization, but the string "ho" wouldn't bypass the censor if neither letter was capitalized.
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>>159870803

Gravelord Sword with Sword Dance weapon art.
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Do great weapons really need to be that slow

I mean

Would they be so overpowered if they didn't have those retarded long start ups?
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>Knight gets censored to K***ht
>can still name my character ''Sexy Lady Nigger''
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>>159870640

It's fine but the same can be said about a spear and thrusting sword dual wield if you know how to mix up and delay your timings in different ways. The main problem is the difficulty involved with dealing with the 2 different attack timings on top of the ability to R2 or simply wait a half second between R1, how the R1 L2 mixup game is going to go, etc.

I've never had any problems with quickstep ever but maybe I've just never run into a "good" quickstep dagger users, idk. It's hard to find good competition these days, especially since you get complacent after winning like 30 in a row and then you run into 1 good kid and it totally fucks you up since everything up until then has been easy. The main thing imo that makes daggers broken is bloodring imo which is why I'd say it's better to go with the greatknife because of the reach and raw infusion damage. Bloodring doesn't work on quickstep, only rolls, though, which is why rolling is just better most of the time I'd say.
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>>159870815
if you don't plan on using any spells, i wouldn't go for it. it's the most damaging pure phys gs, but a crystal bastard sword or claymore is even stronger and buffable
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>>159871060
Then they'd be as fast as curved sword swings. Don't you know how FROM balances things? Either go big or go home, no in between, brute force through it, strong arm tactics, better than yesterday, one step closer to victory
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>>159870803
Post yfw Curved Nil comes back in DLC2.
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>>159871042
>inb4 it takes as long to cast it as nito does but doesn't have nito's range
however it could be cool if you could charge the wa for more damage and range
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Thinking of getting DaS2 after not beating it back on release week, how's the online?
Does Scholar fix it as much as people say?
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>>159870915

1 handed with a BK shield most of the time, it's the highest damage spear in the game and the only spear longer than it is the gargoyle FS and only by a little bit. The WA is also real nice, and the 1HR2 gives you a horizontal sweep no other spear has (I mean, there's the partizan, but the partizan is kinda bad in terms of damage and reach).

Then I have an offhand arbalest and estoc to deal with the few things that counter it, namely CCS and whips/pyro shitters.
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>>159871140
But what's wrong with everything having close speed

Aren't greatweapons already balanced with their weight and retarded stamina cost?
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>>159870906
Katana running attacks have been the meta way to use them in pvp since Demon's Souls and lmao2kat
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>>159871136
B-But it also scales with 10 humanities...
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>>159871230
There's always people waiting for PvP on the Iron Keep bridge.

Scholar fixes a lot of things, but also makes a bunch of questionable changes that don't really make sense. Overall I'd say that Scholars is pretty much THE definitive edition of II though, more content and all
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>>159871230
Online is decent.
I played the game for the first time a few months ago and it was more active than my recent DS3 run

I even got invasions and got invaded outside of the Iron Bridge.
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>>159870997
>>159871291
so it's decided then. it's fine to use katana.
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What are some fun PvE weapons that aren't greatswords?
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wew
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>>159871794
skeleton arms
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>>159870135
Bitch just bring me my damn weapon before I assault your boipuss. You little nerd
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>>159871230
>DS2
>sexy crow ass

>DS3
>Crows are the most miserable creatures and when you're killing it feels like a mercy
>the crows can barely do any damage to you and mostly just vomit everywhere
>their guts are hanging out and dragging behind them
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>>159871316
since there is no downside to having those 10 humanities, i took them for granted. without those, it's shit
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After playing around with Corvian Great Scythe it's alright.
The problem is it has no HA, so you HAVE to play reactively and know how to space for the benefit of a bit less damage than a greatsword.
Altogether higher skill ceiling with less payout.

Also, even with carthus rogue it's very difficult to get a bleed proc even with a luck build in pvp.
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>>159871902

What went wrong.
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What if

We could wear repeated rings
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>>159872337
i would wear 4 rof

it would be fun because of 4 life ring
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>>159872163
Honestly, the design on the Corvians was exactly what was to be expected of DaS-style Dark Fantasy. There probably should've been more of the threatening crows since has like 5 actually threatening crow enemies. The Toxic vomiting crowscwere alright, though.
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What are some broken weapons in DaS3 PvE? I don't care if it trivialises stuff. In fact, that's what I want.
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>>159872337
>Obscuring ring that makes you invisible until you literally melee hit an opponent.

>4 Hornet rings to 1HKO almost every boss
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>>159872337

4 Blood rings + Armor of Thorns, my dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYnFIRc0k6E
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>>159872434
I just figured the rotting of the painting is having a pretty gnarly effect on the inhabitants of the painting, with the Corvians being surrounded by the rot they're going through a plague of some sort right now or something.
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>>159872337
Finally I can make that regen build I've always wanted to make
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>>159871291
>>159871653
Katanas are the weakest they've been in a Souls game. The delay on the R1 was a huge nerf. They're perfectly fine now.

People who complain about katanas have never used one and just have left over salt from DS2.
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If you still have dancer alive

Go fight her locked on with the Black Knight Greataxe.

See what happens and laugh at from incompetence.
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>>159872337
Remove all caps

BF speed soul streams
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>>159853238
>this hood

How
Is that a mod ?
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Hey /dsg/,

i don't post here often, just tell me: am i a shitter using pic related?
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Is Str or Dex better for PvE? Or is it quality street again?
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>>159871902
The sexy crows are the Corvian Knights. Same size, same shape, same general method of attack.
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>>159872686
>4 Sun Princess rings
>Archdragon greatshield on back
>Butcher knife
Maximum regen
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>>159853238

Took me too long to even understand what you guys mean
How not gay can a person be?
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>>159872992
It depends on what weapon you plan on using, just like PvP.

Most weapons scale better with quality than STR or DEX.
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>>159872976
If this was pre-patch, yes. Right now all halberds are in a bad spot and that particular thing is outclassed by Gundyr's. So you're '''good'''
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>>159872337
4 life rings. Try killing me now, invaders. :3
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>>159872976
You're in the way of becoming one by using the best weapon within a class, but you're still okay

>>159873094
>is outclassed by Gundyr's

how so?
BKG has more damage
is lighter
better moveset
better WA
true combos
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>>159873087
No idea, to be honest. I was thinking either rapier, some spear or some straight sword.
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>>159872686
>regenerator's ring for 4hp/s
>adjudicator's shield +5 for 8hp/s
>blessed weapon +5 for 6hp/s

WHY DID YOU TAKE IT AWAY FROM ME, MEMEZAKI
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Recommend me a DaS2 build for my "first" playthrough.
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>>159873174
Rapier and Straight Swords are quality weapons with the exception of the Crow Quills which is a DEX weapon.

You can check the AR of various weapons here:

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/weapons

You'll see that the vast majority of weapons do more damage at 40/40 refined.
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>>159872435
Bleed trivializes a lot of PvE content, since almost every boss is vulnerable to it.
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>>159873339

Powerstanced greatweapons.
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Does anyone else loves to leave early optional bosses for later just to bust them off with +9 weapons later?

It feels so good do destroy the greatwood in a few hits
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>>159869701

I got an xboner controller for ds3 and the d-pad is already not working.

I love the controller but this is just shoddy.
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>>159872337
>4 rtsr
>4 bellowing
oh god yes
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>>159873339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35gj8XcVArA
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>>159873339
DaS2 doesn't really have "builds" unless you want to be an arena tryhard.
Just level ADP until you have 92 AGL, then whatever. Faith is decent in DaS2 so might want to try miracles.
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>>159873151
The Gundyr Weapon Art is pretty annoying though, especially when spammed and with pings high as a Rasta on Friday.
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>>159873096
and you still wouldn't have as much hp as BotC
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>>159873339
Cleric is pretty damn OP if you want that. Lightning fucks up most bosses.

I'm playing now as a kind of horrible hybrid of a pure caster that becomes a spellsword sometimes.
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>its a host just rolls around with carthus rings and a giant tree seed up episode
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>>159873402

This, blue and red smelter demon swords. Enjoy.
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>>159873174
Dex is good, str might be a little les ar for those weapons but opens the option of using a greatshield.
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>>159872976

Before the poise patch it was god-tier, but now you're probably getting staggered when I running R1 you with my spear unfortunately.

The good news is we're getting a patch tomorrow that's supposedly going to buff the poise for halberds (glaives included) and ultra weapons, as well as nerfing (hopefully, the fuck out of) curved swords.
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>>159873598
Black Separation Crystal sounds like an African American marriage counsellor.
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>>159873585
are you playing on patch 1.1 or something? i wanna do it too, can you tell me how?
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>>159873678
you can say nigger here
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>>159873646
i hope they don't overbuff halberds, they have potential to be more boring and annoying to deal with than curved swords
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>>159871794

Now you can be one of the cool kids too :^)
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>>159873691
What makes you say that? Have you quoted the wrong post?

>>159873709
But I specifically did mean American ones, not just universal niggers. I don't think many Zimbabweans are called Crystal.
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>>159873762
I've been using a claymore but wouldn't mind joining in the cancer. What are you stats?
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>first time fighting someone using the flail
>that range

the fuck

well i wont fall for that again
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>even with dragon form's 0 poise I can super armor through tons of shit
>some pontiffbabby tries to DMB katana WD into my R1s every time and I get a guaranteed combo for 3x as much damage
I can't wait to see what the next patch does
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>>159873956
the flail was glorious when it first came out. Out ranging halberd users and attacking so quickly was hilarious.
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>>159871794
>Yorshka's "imprisoned in a tower" with a bonfire
>she could warp out at any time but she chooses to just chill out in the tower like a dingus while Aldritch is voring his brother's ass
Dumber than Kriemhild. Truly the worst girl.
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>>159873390
So for bleed you actually want Luck for once, don't you? What's a good amount to go for?
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>>159873339
You get fucked over if you use magic only in the dlc.
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>>159848001
Blue eye orb
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Do you guys go full tryhard weapon swapping and ringswapping in arena or do you just go with whatever you have equipped?

I used to min/max like crazy but lately I really don't care for it.
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>>159874171
Tell me about it. I just went into Ivory King at about level 80 in order to get the Ice Rapier and it's awful. Everything feels like a miniboss.
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>>159873646
Is it buffing the poise when using Halberds or buffing the poise damage?
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>>159873837
40 DEX 60 Faith, sharp quills. The usual.
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>>159874196
only against people with min maxed armor and meta weapons
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>>159848001
I cannae do it, Captain
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>>159874156
Most people tie in bleed builds with hollow builds, so you aim for 30 luck with a pair of +10 hollow weapons to meet the 40 soft cap. Curved swords are pretty common, since they have innate bleed, and hollow infusions don't restrict buffs which allows you to stack carthus rouge on top.

Try Hollow Warden Twinblades with Carthus Rouge whilst spamming the art and watch health bars just disappear.
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>>159874196
Only reason I enter my inventory in arena is to put on a resin if they're just turtling so I can do chip damage to them.
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>>159848001
scott jund for balance leader
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>>159874196
I typically have a weapon(s) I want to use and just use that one/those.
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>>159874305

We don't know but hopefully you'll need less poise to be able to HA through stuff, right now the values are insanely high unfortunately. You literally need full havels + wolf ring +2 just to tank a 2HR1 from a carthus curved sword right now, or a spear/katana poke.
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>>159874196
If i'm in an arena and care about doing well i'll min/max the fuck out of it, but if i'm just playing the game and invading/being invaded I don't really bother.
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>>159848001
Bandai Namco retroactively never existed.
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>>159848001

Weaken strong, strengthen weak weapons
>>
If I wanted to start hatemail collecting in the arena, what build would you recommend?

My first thought would be a classic nuke build that completely demolishes health bars with little effort coupled with some nasty taunts, but I'm not even sure if there is a consistently effective nuke bukd in ds3. My other thought would be a vit/end build with Kirk armor, bloodring, and a shit ton of stamina + refer, but I've found that greatshields and just plain running away are effective counters to that, and could use some help thinking of how to mitigate that.
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>>159870219
Doesn't work you fucking retard. It just comes up as a box character in your name.
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>>159848001
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>>159874196
I do it because it's really easy to do and makes the gameplay funner.
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>>159872919
I need an answer
please
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Can any of you link me to that Dark Souls video dealing different type of PvP players.

The only part I remember , there were 2 chicks spamming r1 with weapons, and sometimes r2. From some asian action film.
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>>159848001
Bamco collective kool-aid chugging session
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>>159874747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LG5AAKzmkU
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>>159869731

Don't attack shit you can't beat
>>
>play Dex/Int in DaS2
>end up using a magic whip and magic ricard's rapier
>I beat fucking fume knight with a whip

Man, that felt so awesome.
>>
>faggots using arbalest everywhere now in arena

god fuck if the pyros weren't enough
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>>159874742
The CE script has a way to modify item appearance.
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>>159874895
Thanks
I though it was a mod
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>It's another longsword user than spends the whole match backpeddaling and only attacking after you engage him
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>>159874886
this is what happens when you try and push the "crossbows counter pyros" joke
it only drags out every fucking match because it doesn't hard counter anything it just allows you to play like an ultrapussy
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS7uyNyt0uo

I take it back, maybe that weapon has its fun moments.
In case you are some hippie that refuses to support YouTubers, he rapes the deacons with the Earth Seeker WA only
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>>159870803
>tfw love my weaponfu
>worried that it will get a buff and become cancer or nerf and becomes useless
All the other curved greatswords should get more unf in damage. the carthus cgs is just a slower ccs without the good dps.
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>>159875008
So he thinks and plays better than you?
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>>159869731

That's DaS3 in a nutshell... a lot of bullshit you don't enjoy until you know what to expect.
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>>159875008
run up at him and rollcatch him then you idiot
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>>159874886
>unlock
>do 180
>cock boom bolt
>hold
>hold some more
>do 180 and release when they run close enough

Works every* time
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>>159875082
well he lost so evidently not
>>159875101
That's what I ended up doing. I literally had time to submit my last post mid-duel because he never attacked me until after I attacked.
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>>159873791
>What makes you say that?
lightning was nerfed hard, either you're bullshitting or not playing on current patch. unless you cleric and lightning consist of buffing a lightning mace with lightning and going to town
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>>159875101
>run up at him
That's what he wants you to do you dingus. The only way to beat him is being up on his plate. It's like you can only eat lions for sustenance and you gotta fight them every time. Only way is to outrange/HA them since they can just roll or shield up any projectile you throw.
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>>159869731
DS2 had endless mob stamina and shitboxes.
DS3 has the shit in your webm.
Enemies that can hit you with their weapons through walls and the floor.

This shit pisses me off to no end. It's a giant immersion killer and just bad.
>>
>>159874810
Thanks fellow cursed one
>>
>It's a "Aldrich spams Lifehunt Scythe because it has an insane reach and he gets all of his health back while I have no estus" episode
Can we PLEASE skip this episode?
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>>159875008
>tfw using pyro build against this passive fuckfaces
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>>159875312
>he gets hit by lifehunt
this rerun is getting old
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>>159875363
>this
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>>159874886
>faggots using arbalest everywhere now in arena
>a weapon you love and advocated is now cancer
I don't know what I want anymore.
>>159875312
No, Lifehunt Scythe is underused as fuck and now I'm starting a build centered around hp attrition.
>>
>tfw aggressive pyromancy is a hard counter to passive players
no wonder everyone bitches about it
no wonder I'm killing these retards so easily
>>
I love how easy CCS and sabre users are to parry
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>>159875513
delete
>>
i want friede to meme on my face
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>>159875551
I love how easy your mom is to bang
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>people using BKGA in DaS3
>it has less AR than the Greataxe
>it is heavier
>needs 18 dex
>slower moveset
>about same reach
>awful r2
>retarded stamina consumption
>looks worse
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>>159875683
>t. CCS user
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>laggy great club user that takes hits 2 seconds after I hit him
>literally cannot do anything to him unless he is not swinging or I'll take 600 damage phantom hits
jesus christ how horrifying
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>>159875275
To be honest, the hitbox thing hasn't bothered me while playing Scholar recently. I do remember it being a bit weird in the original. I think one thing that got blamed on hitboxes was the tracking of overheads, which was just caused by people dodging during the startup animation rather than the active downswing of the attack.

The thing that's most annoying me in Scholar now is how a roll then an attack can make you stab directly away from the opponent if they move forward. And how you accidentally keep redirecting your attacks away from the enemy with the left stick.

DS3 is getting to me because it seems to go wrong in a sudden weird clusterfuck of things that probably weren't intentional. I can take the odd janky hitbox but this feeling of fast-forwarded sloppiness is driving me to despair.
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>>159875725
>looks worse
delete yourself
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>>159875725
>looks worse
shit taste: the post
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>>159875725
>doesn't have the same 2 slam attacks+godawful WR range
>looks worse
oh fuck yourself
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>>159875725
>looks worse

I don't have an anime girl smug enough for this response.
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>>159875232
Well you're right that I'm basing my personal experience on an older patch, way back when DS2 was new. You could kill Darklurker in about 4 or 5 attacks.

That said, if you look on Wikidot you'll see that a load of bosses are weak to lightning yet you get magic resistant ones pretty often. In the sense that the easier way to play is ranged, yet magic ranged is shit because of all the resistances, you're left with miracles and pyro. I think pyro also fairs less well in terms of enemy resistance, though I could be wrong.
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99 souls of great champion is still safe right?
>>
What's with all the laggy shitters in duels right now?
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>tfw forcing idiots to PvE with no Estus in the DLC by cutting down the bridge early
I don't even engage them when I spawn in, I just go cut it down first and drag them through the entire DLC before killing them.
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>>159875908
>bosses are weak to lightning
true, but the damage of all lightning spears was nerfed and their casts were cut to 1/3
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>>159875917
We have no idea what caught people out in the ban wave. Anecdotal reports indicate that simply hooking CE in to the DS3 process whilst online is what got people flagged.

It's gonna take months of experimentation to figure out the actual problem, so it's smarter to just not bother for a while. If you absolutely have to have the items, do it offline and only ever item swap. And only ever swap in basic shit. And only ever swap it in un-upgraded, or in stack sizes that are actually possible. And only ever swap in stuff you can actually pick up.
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>dash up to spear users while they're trying to do their epik WD spam and hit them before they can even start up their attack
>every single time
lmao
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>>159876002
being a stealth hunter in dlc feels immensely satisfying, they can fuck up in a myriad of ways and even if they somehow make it to the lower ariandel chapel, Vilhelm will rape them raw because coopers can't fight him
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>>159875925
People have been reporting server issues for a few days.
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>>159876161

>WD

?????
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>>159876002
how exactly do you kill them without engaging them
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>>159876152
>>159876152
>>159876152
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>>159876246

Have they also been reporting really bad fps dropps when you spawn into areas since the dlc? because I've been getting that shit.
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>>159876291
Witch Doctor.
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>>159873073
The joke is that the belt is a dick, right?
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>>159876291
while dashing

also wr = while rolling
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>>159868681
That warms my heart. I fucking hate hosts that pull that shit.
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