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>Previously on /tosg/: >>159771038

>Latest Patch Notes:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=720

>Latest Q&A
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=718

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam(Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)
Ohayou (Karga)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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kToS changes:
>>159838229
>>159838438


Solmiki Cloth
3+ pieces - All stats +25
4+ pieces - MaxSP +1437
6+ pieces - Earth Attack Damage +162
7+ pieces - MATK +571, MAmp +69

Solmiki Leather
3+ pieces - All stats +25
4+ pieces - CritAtk +225, Accuracy +100
6+ pieces - Evasion +48, Critical hit +72
7+ pieces - PATK +818

Solmiki Plate
3+ pieces - All stats +25
4+ pieces - MaxHP +3942
6+ pieces - PDef +48, When you hit a demon-type target, you have 5% chance to regain physical strength for 5 seconds
7+ pieces - MDef +247, PATK +571
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Sell your hats.
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Hi! I'm LeCreme!
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I just know a whale that got a new reiter for maching shot unstoppable stuff

let's report this as a bug, any skill of that type should be stopped when CC'd
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>>159838841
Fucking that lottery thing is such shit
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Post a screenshot of your current self!
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>>159838804

>max sp +

they are fucking retarded right?

no one cares for sp pool past 2k margin
give us more mdef
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>>159838229
>>159838804
new open dungeons at
>Stogas Plateau, Lv210
>Ruklys Street, Lv190
well, nobody needs that

>guild raid/event changed/updated/new with Lv335 boss/mobs
ok?

>another side quest line that gives material to make a Mystical Cube
but its disabled? all lvl 290 but the first is Lv999
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>>159839102
Cartar cast time is listed as C1.
Barb, if I had to guess, gets a buff after rushing that lasts few seconds?
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Defend this game!
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+x s to skill duration is so half assed
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>>159839324
no!
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>IMC buffs cata again
>IMC buffs sword3 again
WHAT THE FUCK WHY

WHY DO THEY KEEP DOING THIS
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>>159839324
I don't even want to anymore.
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>>159838804
>>159839240
Also this.
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>>159839598
>It's always a joy to find out what's hidden. I'm sure it'll help you too. Now! Leave it to me.
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Is Futureproof the strongest tosg guild? They're second in GvG rankings.
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Ayo Dmn, mind adding an option to sort by amount of sockets?
And an option to filter so only items with unique effects show up? Stuff like Aias and +skill levels.
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>>159839324
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/guide-for-those-who-belive-this-game-is-not-p2w-yet/335865

I can't
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>>159839240
and

new open dungeons at
>Gytis Settlement Area, Lv150
>Dina Bee Farm, Lv170
that's sounds ok, to deal with the fuckups at 17x

i had no issues there but ppl often complain about it.
and making that shit faster sounds alright
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Ohayou is recruiting!
If you want some GvG action, a bit of TP, and people to talk to, give us a call.
PM or add Karga, and I'll get back to you.
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>>159838804
>Cata % scalings
IMC decided to let my cataphract deal damage?
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loli why is half of your guild kissing your ass and saying youre strong? is it because you have 330 equips? youre not giving them free TP so im really confused why people are acting like this when ive yet to see you 1vs1 anyone.
that helmet gives you 2X damage to headbutt and you didnt even know?
its almost like all you do is 200 rush then corral in more newfags
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>yfw Crimson disbanded just now
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>>159840210
so much missinfo
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>>159840210
t. swaaz

loli is strong against everyone but you
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>>159840015
>Hat parties have been dead for almost a few months
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>>159840226
We had a good run boys...

Any /tosg/ recruiting?
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>>159840015
karga what the hell is wrong with you seriously
you are supporting a dead cause. grow up quickly before you become associated with the drama
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>>159840226
ITS HAPPENING

THE REIGN OF FP INCOMING
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>>159840226

Where is the evidence
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>posts info about helmet
>doesnt even post what helmet does
>continues to post webms of pressing a button in TBL but never shows he wins
>im totally not being carried guys
>look guys im strong, i have lv330 equips. im strong because i have good equipment. also my build is unique xd
>never duels anyone
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>>159840365
t. swaaz
You're the one creating the drama right now
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>>159840226
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>>159840490
>>159840210
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>alpha is rank 1
should i upload the videos of TBL where alpha literally gives up and knows they cant kill me so they run around for 3 mins every match?
>>159838393
how the fuck did you not know this for a month?
this is legit proof you dont even play the game
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>>159840473
Eroc is quitting the game over the p2w, doesn't make sense though since he gets free tp. Too much of a cuck I guess
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>>159829419
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>>159840620
no, upload some real exciting footage for once
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Time for CuteNotLewd to dominate the GBL scene RETARDS
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>>159840226

is that real, show pic or is fake, SHOW PICS
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>>159840620
>Heh heh people get bored attacking me while I hold C after they kill my partner uncontested
>I'm the best
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>>159840691
im sitting on a gold mine, just too lazy
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>>159840774
Does CuteAndLewd have open slots?
I mean, place in there guild. Ofc these whores have open slots..
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If Crimson really is kill, that means /tosg/ guilds, along with the ded guild from the other chan, will be the oldest guilds in Klaipeda.
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>>159840226
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>>159840328
They are dead because IMC removed the bug, now only 1 hat is dug
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Crimson is finished
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>>159840790
>playing T1
>cant beat squire3
heh heh why is swaaz soo trash xd
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>>159840664
this is my new waifu
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>>159840982
But he did win.
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Reminder to add "squire3" to your filters
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>>159840664
>Archer
>No hidden classes
>market class get shitcanned in favor of a npc
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>FP is higher ranked than Crimson
uhmm, crimsontards?
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>>159840853
>>159840638
>>159840430
>>159840226

Someone can relate more please? why they disband like that? i knew they got a lot of free TP, so they can survive the p2w wave, or they know that doesnt matter anyway, a p2w game is just plain boring?

someone relate!
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If I have good crit rate and dex should I put yellows in favor of red gems?
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>>159841401
>F.O.E. joins best guild
>best guild is now shit
rly mak u think
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>>159841565
The only FOE that GvGs is Yeule.
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>>159841401
FOE had the worst players of /tosg/ and now they're in Crimson

Mimi was the only good player
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>>159841646
and Demon
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>>159841656
>cutenlewd
>best ERP guild
>best PvE guild
>best GvG guild
really makes you think
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>>159841565
>guild is new and lame
>Clover joins them
>guild is now great and stronk
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>>159841829
>ohgayou being anything but a cuckfest and complete trash
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>>159841890
still better than your guild, swaaz
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>>159840846
No we are full but close to a guild level so maybe a slot soon
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>>159841747
?
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>>159841890
Swaaz just because you get cucked everyday by Beethoven doesn't make you have to be a salt master
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>>159842052
>There is absolutely no chance that anyone but 1 person does not like greedy jew beethoven.
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>>159839784
YES
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>>159842174
enough shitposting swaaz, shut up already
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>>159841890
sorry I can't hear you over the sound of all these TP coins
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>>159842232
if youre gonna advertise do it for your own guild u giant cuck
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>>159842174
You gave it away with the greedy Jew part swaaz
Just because someone cucks you daily
Doesn't mean they're a Jew
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Anyone else feel sad for Crimson? They were tosg's only hope.
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Infidels shall not pass.
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>>159842863
There were a lot of circumstances at hand that weren't favorable. Don't worry, tomorrow is a new day!
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>>159842863
Alpha is a /tosg/ guild, don't worry Diamond isnt unbreakable
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Wait, did crimson actually disband?
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>>159842994
>non /tosg/ guild is a /tosg/ guild

When will this meme end
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>>159843353
Yeah. Eroc couldn't handle the shame of being ranked below FP.
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>>159842994
duh, even Ohayou beat them twice
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Why can't I hold all those Dragoons?
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>>159843703
LMAO 4DRG
Remind them to not stand in red circles.
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>tfw CoffeeHouse will last longer than all your pathetic NA "tosg" guilds
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>>159844221
>CoffeeHouse
>last longer
>/tosg/ guild
Pick two.
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>>159844221
>Not CuteNotLewd
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>>159844163
I got that joke. Is it weird that I unironically like ToS PVE more than I like FFXIV PVE? The only exception is Trials, but like, playing a swordsman on ToS is fun as fuck.
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>mfw all this chars
>mfw no rank8
>mfw always creating new alts

Forever a altshitter.
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https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/640281
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/640280

Soon guys. Soon!
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Are there any good one handed spears?
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>>159844363
>the only thing na guilds succeeded with in this game is stuffing their shitty guilds with underlevel losers "from /tosg/"

pretty pathetic if you look at the most "tosg" guild made by pedropan

ironically even crimson disbanded after getting some "tosg" shitters in their guild
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>>159844574
>Boys and girls in the same lodge

No wonder nothing gets done, they spend all day holding hands and kissing.
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>>159844712
>ironically even crimson disbanded after getting some "tosg" shitters in their guild
You must be some special kind of retard. No wonder you keep shitting up the thread with your inane fedimian bullshit.
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>>159844735
But that's incest
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>>159838671
Edit it to say "ur a faget"
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>>159844696

i have one spear in middle of my legs
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>>159844816
you can say the guild is pretty desperate at this point when they have to invite a bunch of "tosg" na losers

but disbanding shortly after that is on a whole new level

i bet their old members didn't expect how shit players from "tosg" are
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>>159844984
he said good
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>>159844945
Yes, and?
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>>159844221
>pathetic NA guilds
>says the fedikeks who do nothing but blog about how dead their server is
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>>159844984
>the spear between his legs is one-hand
I'm so sorry.
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>>159844696
You tryna do damage with a Cataphract or somethin?
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>>159844984
>his is only one handed
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>>159844735
The swordie one is gay and the other one hate girls and boys, only love god.
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>>159844984
>he doesn't have a two handed spear
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>>159845000
F.O.E. had never been tosg
they are a discord guild
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>be the original most powerful guild of whales
>disband because other whales will become stronger than you now
I can't believe /tosg/ circlejerks over Crimson
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>>159845048
You don't know anything about me
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what happened to Comfy anyway? Anyone notice how the thread quality went to shit after they disappeared?
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>>159845030
>better at pvp
>better at pve
>better and wbs
>better at gvg

honestly it's hardly even a competition

its like beating a bunch of crippled retards

you wouldnt brag about it
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>>159845128
>backpedaling

pathetic
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>>159845140

Where is the fun in a game that you just one hit win with paying, isnt fun at all, just by a little, like these minecraft server p2w

>Whale comes
>Spend money like the whale it is
>get bored, not real competition
>quit
>repeat with another whale

P2W are the fastfood in games
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Defend this game's PvP
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Stop replying to that retard ffs
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>>159845385

Protip: You can´t
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>>159845385
you can defend if you go full CON :^)
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>>159845396
retard
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>>159845385
I have a block value of 3000. I can defend it all day bb :)
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guild neutrality was a mistake

remember we will never get this back
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>a mix of 20s CC abilities, instagib abilities, and Ausrine/revenged7x in a tiny arena
No really defend this game's PvP
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>>159845593
>dvine will never carry fp again
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>>159845385
No.
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>>159845593
>remember we will never get this back
Open world pvp is 99% lag + spawncamp and only 1% fun. The whole thing is completely broken by design.
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>>159845593
Guild Neutrality = No GvG, this way should fix this faggot shit.
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>>159845684
>Open world pvp is 99% lag + spawncamp and only 1% fun. The whole thing is completely broken by design.

how is gvg any different
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>>159845684
shit was still glorious though
>get ganked while queueing for 130
>get spawn camped
>call for help
>help arrives
>they call for help
>lag intensifies
>2 hours later one side finally gives up

or

>ragtag group of r6 shitters vs a guild of whales
>still win

good times
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>>159844549
FFXIV solo overworld PvE is kind of boring.
Trials/dungeons.raids/and rare FATES are a different story.

Someone screams Odin then that whole fucking map is overrrun.
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>>159845593
>guilds try to bully CuteNotLewd
>entire general gangs up on them
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>>159845314
The point is IMC made money with the whales while they didn't with f2p krills
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>>159845661
>2vs2
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>>159845593
Good, we don't need to extend the lifetime of this game any more.
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>>159846097
Desync is worse and SR is stronger in 5v5.
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>>159845839
It's not that much different. The whole pvp thing is completely fucked up.
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>>159845661
BURN THE SRS RACE WAR NOW
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Why the fuck did they remove this!??????????
FUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKK. ;_;
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>>159846537
>cancerous clusterfuck
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>>159846537

Was "too easy for gold sellers to exploit".
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>>159846404
>SR
>strong in 5vs5

Nah, only if the matchmaking really fucks your team.
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>>159845593
Good riddance, I enjoy not being forced in some minigame bullshit.
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>>159846537

now enjoy waiting 2 days to get 18k of silver
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>>159846619
>has an arena-wide channeled skill that both allows him to keep a safe distance and hits all 5 of your team at once if they're anywhere near eachother
>literal unmatched gods of desync
The only answer to SR in 5v5 is Revenged Sevenfold and praying that his team won't remove it for him.
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>>159846537
>>159845870
>>159845593
Everything in this game that was fun and challenging was removed in favor of streamlined, single player oriented features.

>Instanced content
>Auto queuing
>Retarded bonuses not applied if you DO NOT queue
>Boring daily chores nobody find fun
>Less and less grind
>A cute hat simulator with almost no hats
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>>159845661
If you just stopped kneecapping yourself and played an inquisitor like everyone else you wouldn't have this problem. I don't understand why you fuck yourself on PD when you have a guild that will support you and bee riches to gear yourself with. Just reroll inquisitor kaba and end this game.
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>>159846960
Where's the fun in that? Plus I like disenchant.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzCxjrJz9DY

This track hurts to listen to now. Back during more hopeful times, that the game would've been great.
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retards who think that outdoor pvp is bad and should be caged into arena are the worst cancer

mmo is not moba
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>>159846537

I was not in the beta, but holy shit, this game had more potential than i believed, but why IMC? why they did that? they could just continue and be a fuck ton of great than the piece of shit is now

Why did they crushed their game to pieces? i dont understand becauze if they did great the game would give a explosion of players

IMC is stupid or they killed their game intentionally?
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>Not liking this gacha shit
>Well, let's see if Pangya's been doing anything as of late
>...

...oh.

Ok.

This is what happens when you base your entire business model on milking gambling addicts but do nothing to promote a flow of new players.
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>>159847246
>I was not in the beta, but holy shit, this game had more potential than i believed, but why IMC? why they did that? they could just continue and be a fuck ton of great than the piece of shit is now

imc quickly realized how fucked up their game is with 7 years in development for dx9 engine that is a pile of shit

so they quickly changed their strategy and pushed all devs to develop mobile version instead of fixing that pc-shit

also filled pc version with typical mobile content such as gacha
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>>159847246
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>>159847246
Why bother making improvements for alot of players when we can just milk retarded whales for their hard earned (or not) dollars hehehehe
[sportscar noises in the background]
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>>159847259
I was thinking of Pangya just yesterday. What happened to it?
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>>159847259
>>159847560


That game still alive!? tell us more
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>>159847246
Yeah the experience was just fantastic. Walking through that huge crowd, even though it was a clusterfuck. It gave such a massive sense of community. You just didn't want to log off because there were tons of people to interact with.

>You will never be absorbed into ToS like the RO days.
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>>159847679
>muh RO
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>>159847679
>You will never be absorbed into ToS like the RO days.

tos could never have woe with that 2 fps shitty engine and it nullifies all the value compared to ro
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Are the servers still laggy and full of bots? I played the first few days and just wanted to kill myself
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>>159847816

yeah, there are more bots and IMC does less and less to clean them
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>>159847679
>You just didn't want to log off because there were tons of people to interact with.
almost all of them used to be afk/offline tho

>RO
choke on a dick
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>dmndb still doesn't have miko skills in english
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Is there no alternative to ToS? Everyone seems to agree that it's not as great as it could've been.
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>>159848238
doesn't mean the game isn't fun
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>>159845593
I hope they bring it back just for you so you can experience it with transcendence and powered up gems.
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>>159848238
>Everyone seems to agree that it's not as great as it could've been.
Literally no game has ever been as great as it could have been, what does this even mean?
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>>159847616
Just announced a week ago that they're closing next month.

For the past year, the game has been dead on the publisher's end with no real updates or events. Eventually, the reason was finally given over the summer: Control of the game was being handed over to the japanese. So that's why absolutely nothing seemed to be happening, even in the korean version.

Thing is, when absolutely nothing HAPPENS in a dressup game vaguely disguised as a golf game, your players are going to dwindle.
This was especially bad for Pangya because
a) they became more and more reliant on gambling shit like "lucky pouches" bringing in the cashflow, which kinda made things shit for non-whales, and
b) sometime in the spring of 2013, the publisher just fucking decided to stop enforcing the rules. Ever.

I GUESS japan looked at the dwindling playerbase they fucking caused, decided the reason was totally something else other than a year of stagnation, and decided this was no longer worth it.


Hell, the reason Global's bad goes even further back than that, really. The last time the game had an international competition, Pangya Global sent a bunch of guys and literally only 1 of them could play competently when under the scrutiny of other people. All those gachabucks they amassed went to giving a bunch of cheating shitheads a free vacation to Thailand, and the server became a fucking joke compared to the other publishers.

I feel more and more awful that they seized control of publishing in North America from OGPlanet. Everything was made more expensive. More and more gambling shit everywhere. And at least OGPlanet realized that Brazil was a problem that was bleeding them financially and fucking did something about it.
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>>159846537
Literally every one was a scam. Especially the B> talk 3k ea shops.
They all took advantage of early mats all selling for like one gold to exploit people who thought every item sold for pennies. Using that shit is like walking naked through a forest of dicks and trying not to get raped.

>>159848312
>Literally no game has ever been as great as it could have been
Mabinogi was for a while after they removed the freemium shit.
>You can do anything
>You can DO ANYTHING.

>>159848238
There are no cutesy MMO. That genre has been dying since RO, and even RO is nearly uniquely cute. (Few mmos have as many humanoid enemies, nude enemies, cute pets, etc.) Most are either some gross chibis with huge boobs thing, some generic anime 3d style that's somehow lower quality than even a shitty JRPG, or some horrible mishmash of "realism" and anime, with all the same anime props you see in fully anime games and fucked up hand/feet/bust porportions. (also no mmo seems to be able to position hands to not clip into outfits, which doesn't happen in other games nearly as much.)

You can go play Emil Chronicle Online but that's Jap only.
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>30k hp
>800 mdef
>4x cloth
>still die to lv 10 incineration from a full con cleric

they should cap %attribute bonus on pvp so full con retards deal less damage

people don't give a fuck about int on a pvp wiz/cleric because they can just pump their r7 lv 10 skills to 85~ and oneshot almost anyone
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>>159849890
>800 mdef

try stacking nuaele retard
also
>getting hit by incineration
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>500k for a lv 5 green gem

is this okay?
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>>159849950

>what is impaler after restrain stun
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>>159850052
yeah thats below market price
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>Dragon Soar says that enemies hit with this skill are launched into the air
>it doesn't launch them into the air
Nani?
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Maybe im stupidly wrong or crazy or something but, this game is losing around 3k of players every 15 weeks

they have around 5k now or 6k at the best

That does mean nearly February this game is gonna be nearly death maybe on 5 o 15 day, im not that sure, all of this is just speculation if things keep going like this, maybe will last a little more or simply not gonna happen
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>>159850241

it has a small gain last week iirc, for the first time after months
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>>159850241

Its stable in 5k~6k for a while now.
Assuming that 1k are bots and gold sellers, still seems a nice number for a dead game.
Now that they made it p2w, if the player base is stable on that number, I guess the game can continue running for few months.
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>>159850474
>spread over multiple servers
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>>159849091
Pangya is going to become a dead game now? The only way to play the game from now on will be on the Wii version?
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>>159850367

Yeah but is like 60 players more very little

>>159850474

is like the Titanic, fill float for some time and then, break in two parts ( Whales and not whales )

No whales will sink frist and then Whales part will float for a while but will end sinking too
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>>159850606
People play it? I see people nostalgia over it, but unlike RO, I don't see people going back to play it.

>>159850683
>2 years later, doom posters will still be saying the same thing

Where's that image with the guys in the rowboat boat yelling "sink sink!"?
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>>159850367
And about to lose it again due to how the forum retards keep doom/scaremongering.
If they got one thing right, it's that mods don't do their job.
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>>159850753
It was actually fun to play, though the blatant cheating really makes you angry. Is there such a thing as Pangya private servers? It'd be sad to see Pangya become a literally dead and unplayble game, like City of Heroes.
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>>159850579
They should just merge everything that is hosted in US.
Literally no point having 100 servers to 2 players.
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>>159850936
Hopefully my account gets deleted in the process!
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>>159850936
What about Fedimian?
:^)
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>>159851010
Fediwhat?
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>>159850991
I bet you'd just make a new one you degenerate ohacuck
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how much should I offer for a lolopanther leather gloves? it's so rare, people only sell plate/cloth
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>>159851010
I dunno, I don't have IMC numbers. But if it's more profitable to do that, and kill Fedi, they should just do it.

It's not like the game wouldn't die for EU players anyway.
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>>159850991

I'll miss you if you're gone anon.
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>>159851174
Nothing
The difference in stats between some like grynas and lolopanther is do marginal now that it's not worth the effort or money to aquire.
Good headgears and gems, and transcended weapon will go a lot further than lolopanties.
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>>159851174
I paid 9m for mine. Don't listen to >>159851330, the Lolo Leather Gloves have a shitload of Accuracy that other equipment cannot compare to. Even if you account 1 less slot, a Lv 6 or 7 gem doesn't make up for the difference in accuracy.
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>>159850838
If they did, the forums would erupt in "IMC CENSORING EVERYTHING TO HIDE THEIR BULLSHIT DON'T BELIEVE THE LIES!"

I don't even know what they want anymore. They got their own servers, they got neutrality, they got everything tradeable, they got repository merge, they got sword buffs, they got new hats, what's even left? Is there literally anything that could make players stop bitching?
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>>159851673

Maybe.......REMOVE FUCKING GACHA P2W ITEMS TOO?
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>>159851537
Will be funny how it will be outclassed by any gloves with double slot for gem once appraisal comes out
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>>159851673
Forumers will always find something to complain about, they'll never be content.
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>>159851713
What items? A million hats and a sailor outfit?
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>>159851713

The real p2w hasn't even come yet. That comes with the gacha cube, and it's cheaper to roll...
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>>159851537
>>159851330

Yeah, the point is the accuracy and later the boots (that combos into a +40 critical rate bonus). 200 accuracy from the gloves alone PLUS a slot and I can upgrade it with shards. 230 accuracy would be nice for me, I can even use the slots for a iron hook gem.

9m... Guy is asking 3 lv 9 nuaele cards for this glove.
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>>159851772

what items....WHAT ITEMS!? oh my god

silver box
rental equip
fucking overpowered potions
make costumes more cheaper like before

I dont even know where to start dude
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>>159851756


hasta is the dream but no one sells it
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>>159851772
>Silvers box that are literally trading real money for ingame currency is okay

waaah why people are never happy with imc good updates.
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>>159852090

If you're lucky, you can trade silver for more silver though.

Buy a cheap hat (some are going for like 700k), exchange for coins, buy silver box. If you get lucky you'll earn your money back + more.
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>>159851843
>silver box
Boofuckinghoo 10k-10m silver, Silver that can be farmed quite easily from bee farm or demon prison
>rental equip
Good for placeholder PvE equips, near worthless in R8
>fucking overpowered potions
Which is useless in PvE where you either get one-shotted or two-shotted, PvP is another story
>make costumes more cheaper like before
You wanna be /fa/, you should spend dem silvers anon
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>>159852212

Oh i see you are ok with people farming the entire day when someone could just do RMT to Kim kike and get silver boxes that can give millions

"lottery box" waah is not p2w gambling at all
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>6 slots windrunnner with lv 7 blue gems
>10 slots five hammers with lv 7 yellow gems on a total dex madman
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>>159852374
Lottery box is there for people that doesn't have time to farm.
For fucks sakes, what is 10k-10m when everything in the game is a huge money sink?
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>>159852090
Why is that even a problem? Is a problem to buy and sell tokens and costumes instead and get the silver anyway?

>>159852374
>Oh i see you are ok with people farming the entire day

Yet
>Bawww people are spamming this dungeon all day every day
>Bawww people are afk grinding at bees
>Bawww people are farming Demon prison
>Bawww people are stealing my uosis

People complain every time some other player is able to make any money at all. Hell, it's the reason merchant classes are kill.
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>she defends this game
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>>159852567
I wonder how much money it would take to max Necro attributes starting from 0. Just Necro 1-3, with it's several 328,488,673 silver costing attributes.
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>>159852567
>>159852592
is a money sink on purpose, so you will tired of farming soon and then gives put that silver chest saying "short easy way" but you know , gonna spend these delicious TP for Jew Kim don't you?
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>>159852704
But necro is shit
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>>159852374
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>>159852809
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>>159852758
You can't even do anything with 10 mil.
10 mil is like 4 blessed gems worth of blessed shards. It's not even 1% of a high level attribute. It's just a booby prize because you didn't get the hat you wanted and 10 mil might not even buy the hat you do want.
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>>159852809

That dude is fucked up, he is aware of him cancer status?
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>>159852905

gonna spend more in these silver boxes you know
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So i'm A1QS3 now and i don't know how to proceed.
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>>159853031
Scout>Falconer3
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>>159853031
archer 3 qs 3 be a meme, be a legend.
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>>159852809
>posting Swaaz's bugged ranking
it's fixed now, he's 980 or something :^)
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>>159850865
>though the blatant cheating really makes you angry

Eh, I just took comfort in the fact that a lot of the cheating software being passed around was loaded with malicious shit. At one point, about 3 pangya-related blogs all went defunct at nearly the same time because the people running them became victims of identy theft. It's hilarious how they acted like it was a total coincidence and they dindunuthin to bring it upon themselves.
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>>159852809
>incoming long autistic post of excuses and blaming his score on other people or r7 or IMC
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>>159853193
Here is his ranking right now. Not much better
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>>159851673
Cryomancers still continue to be their bogeyman, despite being nerfed into oblivion. IMC can continue shitting on them to satisfy forumfags.
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>>159853327
>Loli is 1052
>Swaaz is 900
really makes you think
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>>159852809
APOLOGIZE
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>>159852905
shit like afk bee farming already caused silver inflation, making greedy fucks think they can demand more silver for valuable items since it was readily available. Lottery boxes just mean a bigger no-effort influx of silver which will just drive up prices of everything even further
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who the fuck is swaaz?
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>>159853427
>lower rank than THE doggeydoo
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>>159853427
>doggeydoo's pardoner is a higher rank than swaaz
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>>159853374
They can do nothing but cry.
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>>159853427
>SWAAZ LITERALLY WORSE THAN DOGSHIT
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>tfw you're not Swaaz and neither is your special friend
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>>159852809
Fuck you that is when i trolled in tbl you auststic your mom gives you chicken tendeys lmfao xD
i bet you cant beat me in 1v1 and if you do i will make a list of excuses
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>>159853552
B A S E D NOTSWAAZ
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>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=724
>2hr maintenance for a silver anvil bug.
Jesus christ, can it wait until next week?
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>>159853673
They have to keep whales happy :^)
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>>159853673

They need to do it asap before the whales fly away
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I still have to do my 290 rushes FUCK
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>rank resets to 1000
>if you win 5 matches in a row with lucky partner, you get rank 1-10
gee whiz i wonder why loligag isnt que'ing on his murmillo anymore
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>2 hour maintenance in 15 minutes

Quick guys, impromptu meet up!
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Miyutan hasn't been on for 2 months, is it time to delete?
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>>159853327
wait didn't TBL score reset? so swaaz actually FELL from 1,000 to 900? wasn't he saying his low score was from before r8 and the bug kept his score down and he couldn't rise because of that?

is swaaz actually bad? i thought he beat lolipan
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>>159853792
>Miyu's legacy is having lovey dovey sex with someone who would only sell her out later by leaking the logs
Thanks Kayori
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What should I ad to my post filter besides whales and retard?
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>>159853924
*add
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>>159853427
doesn't doggeydoo literally just AFK?
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>>159853924

poorfag
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>>159853924
poorfag
swaaz
crimsoncuck
ohgayou
futurecuck
lecreme
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>>159853909
Kayori quit too
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>>159853909
>tfw Miyu killed Kayori then kill herself irl
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>>159853816
He's a fucking squire so it doesn't matter if he's "good" or not, TBL is all about having nearly unavoidable bullshit CC/damage skills or overpowered defensive skills to counter the above. He brags about people choosing to kill his partner and time him out instead of whittling him down for 3 minutes, that should tell you how he does.
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>>159853924
>2vs2
>rodel
>clique
>reminder
>doompost
>pay2win
All of these >>159854054
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>>159853924
karga
beethoven
evergarden
crimson
wind god
swaaz
lolipan

and that's all
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Nice meetup faggots
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>>159854054
>>159854195
Do NOT bully Le*Creme!
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>>159854083
who?
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>>159854113

my poor eyes are suffering holy fuck
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Now that I look at my filter, it really makes me wonder. How come this thread has never said "pub" "pubs" "pubbie" or "pubbies"? You all call other players "normies" or something like that. Is that indicative of the audience?

It's really weird. You even talk about inns and I think only "tavern", "inn", or "bar" has been said, not pub.
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>>159854415
>having a filter
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>>159853924
(You)
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>>159854415
pug
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>>159853924

tosg
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I played RO a long time ago, is this gameu p2w as RO was? :^(

I played a little bit before servers went down and i was having fun heh...
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>>159853469
>>159853514
>>159854036
the past 2 days, i have had 8 matches with dogshit as my partner.
today was similar, 3 matches with useless partners, 3 matches with korasai but was against cleric. ended in the usual partner getting 1 hit then me running around for 3 mins due to not having CC because arrest is considered a lv1 debuff
it literally takes no skill to be top 10 if all you do is que arena 5 times then never que again to keep rank
you wonder why loli isnt even que'ing on murmillo
85% of my matches have either been afkers or rank5-6. and if i ever do get a semi-decent partner its against a cleric.
>inb4 excuses
this is facts, we all deal with this. if anyone seems to think this isnt the TBL experience then obviously youre T1
guess ill just que 3 times then never que again so i can keep my cuck rank and brag to people how pro i am when in reality im too scared to fight
all of my fights i have recorded. i am not throwing these numbers out of my ass. ive literally had 8 matches with dogshit in 2 days
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>>159840638
desu Crimson can only get better if he quits and gives Templar to another guy. He was a dead weight in every GvG.
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>2 hour maintenance to fix one bug

Why IMC?

Also ded game.
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>>159854457
I browse /jp/ and used to browse /mabigen/. I wouldn't be able to look at this site without a filter.
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wow what a fucking crowd
and I'm not even tosg
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>>159854498

is even worst than RO, avoid like a pest
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>>159854548
that bunny looks retarded as fuck
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>>159854415
I literally have no idea what a pubbie is
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>>159854579

I'm not a smart person.
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>>159854512
Have you ever considered even once in your life you can actually *gasp* protect your team with your CC instead of rushing in by yourself and leaving them to the dogs? HOLY SHIT MIND BLOWN!
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>>159854580
Same shit as pubs while trying to make it sound cute.
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>>159854512
>shitposting about someone who isnt T1
>who has proven to beat meta builds with sheer willpower
>can 2 hit beet's inquisitor AND HAS DONE SO multiple times
>beet can only win if he hides in ausrine and only approaches during ausrine otherwise he runs away until its back on rotation
>needing to be a tryhard against a squire3
for fucks sake, my rank is low because it hasnt reset from when i used to que as squire3. for the 50th god damn time i cant even get into TBL matches because my rank wont reset. i que for 60 mins and not once do i get into a fight.
stop implying im shit how about you 1vs1 me then? my rank isnt resetting and you have no right to shitpost and damage control against a squire3 low-tier class like really dont you have something better to do like complain about ausrine or getting 1 hit constantly?
fight be bitch if u think ur soo good, judging me based off of my squire3 rank 7 rank which cant be reset? youre trash
headbutt does 15k damage twice, unless you run around like some pussyfooted faggot who only approaches during ausrine and uses dispellers so i cant use arrest in town pvp then you legit have no reason to gloat when you need to be meta T1 just to beat lowest tier ingame.
heres video of a scenario in which 100% of any cookie cutter sheeple glass build would of just gotten 1-hit from any of the clerics moves, and again i literally get into NO matches at all. id have a ton more footage if i didnt que for 60 mins straight and never get in a match
>HAHA XDXD why you soo autistic stop sperging out spastic

wtf u want me to do when these jackasses insist that im shit but refuse to fight me 1vs1?
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>>159854548
Who is that semen demon (boy)
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>tfw have fun playing meta builds and being on top

Thank god I'm not mentally challenged!
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Remember to repair at Barry's non-profits!
Because non-profits is YOUR profit!
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>>159854614
He does his best, and I respect that.

t. someone who queued with him today
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>>159854512
You're retarded and dont know how rankings work
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>>159854248
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>>159854614
>protect your team with CC
>against cleric
seems legit bro, guess you play T1 and arent aware that all melee skills desync and my arrest skill is considered lv1 debuff like a simple poison, therefore all r7+ clerics have immunity
nice try though
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>>159854690
What other shops are good to use?
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last time I tried to time out a cleric (It was 1vs1), I rushed into him, took 1/3 of his life so my health bar was bigger and the game reseted the count to 10 minutes.

So I run for about one minute to see if it was a bug but the timer goes on

I just stood there and accepted my death. next round we still won anyway since my partner managed to not kill himself into a carnivory
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>>159854640
which one?
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>>159854614
He has arrest, not iron hook.
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Is the game worth playing again
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>>159854798

NO
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>>159854520
>post not meet up pic
>push ded meme with that
this is exactly what shillary did to herself with the poll numbers, are you trying to get anal rape like shillary because we don't mind being TRUMP MAGA
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>>159854798
Yep
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>>159854575
in what way?
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when will SWAAZ OVERLOED raise from the ashes with a true pvp build powered by SWAAZ PRIME'S FOOD? A proper slayer build with con/dex, lolopanther shit, sword 2 pelt 1 rodel 3 corsair 1 into MASTER MURMILLO with super high attributes and a a 550% weapon? I would give some shards to see this happening!
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>>159854820
fuck off dvine and take your old and tired ded game meme with you
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>>159854834
may this be memed into reality
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>>159854834
tfw can't tell if this is the real image or not
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>>159854872

in RO there bots that doest RMT, in TOS you do directly RMT to them and guess what is a RNG lottery box, so you cant even buy some amount, is just RNG fest all the way


and that just is a example
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Watcha guys gonna do for the next 2 hours?
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>>159854981
fap
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>>159854948
average RNG box is 300k though

30 TP for 1 RNG box

So 1 TP = 10k
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>>159854905

Im not him but makes you wonder how awful is this MMO is
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>>159854889
He's a shitty player that doesn't know when to go in and gives 0 fucks about his team. In a match with and against players with similar level gear he would still lose.
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>>159854981
ERP not with you retard
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>>159854981
Work on dragon quest builders
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>>159854995

wow even less, how a surprise uh
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>>159854981
drink more liberal tears
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>>159855013
It's pretty bad and the only thing more pathetic than the state of the game is the rabid defense force that loves to close their eyes and ears and scream "no no no its not true, you're wrong, you're dvine, you're doomposter no no no"
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>>159854836
Are you sure
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>>159854512
Never go full retard
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>>159855150
Yep
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>>159855213

>fucking dead corpse
> sprinking water so the body is still wet

Necrophilia in this thread is not allowed!!!!!!
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>>159854706
>rank resets to 1000
>que 5 times, win 5 times, have rank of 1025
>never que again
gee whiz this must be rocket science guys
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwQAJOESoq8
sorry murbish
>>159854889
im sitting at 230 shards so far, most likely going to not bother with weapons and just transcend my armor for +10000% con then pray to kim for a reflect melee card :^)
>>159855021
>giving advice on how a squire3 should pvp in TBL
wew lad, yet another person who isnt aware arrest cant be used and bash is desync hell. proud of you champ
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>>159855291
You won't be in the top 10 with 1025 at the end of week
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>>159855283
retard
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can someone explain to me what's all that banther about p2w introduced to the game? I hav elike $500 worth of TP and like 15 months of VIP

what is going to change?
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>>159855726
There's a hat gatcha. You can trade hats you don't like in for points. Some things you can buy with points are silver RNG boxes and temporary (7 day) decent accessories.
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>>159855726

Nothing for you thats sure, enjoy getting overpowered in all ways, before they close this awful game
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>>159855726
Poorfags crying that Whallets caught up to their months long grind
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>>159855936

And Whales that defend this game blindly, doesnt matter what
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>See swaaz get bullied in shout
>See swaaz get bullied in tos forums
>See swaaz get bullied on here
I understand now the dudes a cuck
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>>159856141

/bullies/ got real
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>>159856141
he's like an exaggerated mix of dvine and Koenig
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>>159856178
>Koenig
but Swaaz's build is actually good?
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>>159856259
Good at being a useless turd?
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i get bullied in shout from people that legit send me death threats for trolling in TBL, its quite nice
i get bullied in tos forums because i do nothing but shitpost because these inbred br fucks think its funny to doompost 24/7 and say huehue constantly
i dont get bullied in tosg, i AM the bully
retard
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hello is there a discord thank you im new to this general
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>>159856565
swaaz u suck lol
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>>159856565
>I AM the bully
So you're the shitposter behind all the namedrops, guild drama, and mean posts about random ass people?
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>got paired up with Swaaz in TBL twice today
>he did fine despite massive desyncing and clutched out a couple of the rounds while I watched from the death screen
thanks again misinfo agents
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>>159856964
surprised to here this after all the bullshit i said inbetween fights
appreciate it
dont mind the bullies, its not like they are stepping up to 1v1 me
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>>159856964
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is Crimson really on the verge of disbanding or am I getting memed on?
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I've been away for 5 months, has anything improved since then?
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It's up!
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>julie got fired for being incredibly unprofessional on the forums
>GM makes a guild called HueHueHue and still has their job
JULIE...!!
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>Want to resume playing to see minion master build to fruition

>Game's playbase dropping by a concurrent 25 percent monthly, IMC still retarded and greedy.

Fuck.
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Any Warlock2 here? Does Ghastly Trail add damage to each hit of Dark Theurge or just to the ones created from Invocation? https://tos.neet.tv/skills/21207
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>>159845140
It's impressive how some here believe this game is impervious to any sort of criticism
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>>159857970
All evil spirits
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dead thread
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>>159857776
retard
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>>159858553
I hope you realize literally most of them are bots.
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>>159858553
>peak players didn't change at all
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>>159858690
>bots
>using the client through steam
You have no idea how this works.
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>>159858731
tell me how to play without steam
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>>159858731
You literally cannot play iToS without Steam. I fucking wish you could.
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Really? An extra 1284 base damage per hit seems like a lot. Is that only for the duration of Ghast Trail when you activate it or is it passive and permanent?
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>>159858827
Not with the official client, no. Did you really think the bots run the official client? They don't.
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>>159858905
What the shit are you on about?
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>>159858950
Are you incapable of reading the 6 posts above yours? What the fuck?
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>>159858985
>uhmm no axully botters use fakesteam to play itos
What the fuck are you on about?
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>>159858985
explain retard or try harder you are boring right now
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>>159859035
Is this bait? There's no serverside requirement for it to go through steam. You've never gotten kicked to the login prompt you can't authenticate through?
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>>159859084
The client doesn't even launch if you don't have Steam open. What the literal fuck are you talking about?
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>>159859173
>there's no serverside requirement
>b-but THE CLIENT DOESN'T LAUNCH!
Okay, clearly this conversation is over your head.
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>>159859173
can you fucking read?
>>159858905
he never said they used the official client, he said the exact opposite fucking retard
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impressive dead game lads
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>>159859203
>>159859223
So let me get this straight. Botters make Steam accounts to sign up for iToS then use a cracked client to bot just so they can avoid being counted in steamcharts.

Nice delusion toscucks. Almost as good as "elememes will still be viable in r8".
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>>159859358
>thinks bots use visual clients like at all
Uh... xkore is about the only one I can think of, actually, and that was a mod to openkore, which wasn't a visual client. How exactly do you think bot programs work? You're really embarrassing yourself right now.
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>>159859358
The official client eats a lot of resources, the obviously use one that eats way less.
Hell, RO bot programs just used the cmd.
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>>159859358
Where is retardposter when we need him? I don't think I've seen a more appropriate post in a while.
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>>159859401
>>159859449
>>159859496
>w-w-w-we're alive guys botters are explicitly avoiding steam just so they can add validity to steamcharts!!
Yeah whatever, enjoy your dead game.
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>>159859530
>w-w-w-we're alive guys
No one implied that, but thinking botters use the official client is fucking retarded.
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>>159859530
Literally nobody except you said it was done to mod the steam charts. You or someone equally retarded assumed the bots run in the terrible official client which is hilarious and completely wrong. Bots not appearing on the steam charts isn't the intended purpose of a non-visual client, it's just a result.
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>>159859449

They've got to get their login info from the steam client. You can't just do that, you need files from Valve to do this (hence steam_app.dll).

Although pirates can crack this and trick games into thinking that there is a copy of the steam client open that owns a game, I'm not aware of any crack that allows you to request specific user info. You need to send a legit request to valve servers for that.
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>>159859603
Hello doublespace doomposter. You misunderstand some fundamental parts of the login handshake. ToS does not verify with steam that the user is allowed in, that's not how that works.
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>>159859640

So go download a cracked steam_app.dll and show us you opening the game without steam open then.
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>>159859603
You don't really understand what you're arguing. You're implying that IMC modded the server software to demand Steam provide some sort of verification to them on login, this does not happen, and IMC is incompetent as fuck and I really doubt they'll ever go to that level of extra work for effectively no advantage.
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>>159859686
Are you retarded? The entire point of the conversation has been that the official client is not used. You could have easily verified this by googling one of the two ToS bots, but you didn't, because that doesn't result in any (You)s. Fuck off.
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inner peace /tosg/
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>>159859706
>effectively no advantage.
But I thought Kim wanted to stop the bots.
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>>159859769
That's why he made gachas.
Why buy silver from bots when you can get much more from the game legally?
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>>159859769
Only through ways he can (not) pay an intern to code in in a week.
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>>159859706

When you open ToS, do you type in an account name and password?

No. Of course you don't, because your steam account is used in place of this and the client is requesting this information from Valves servers.
You can't just request this kind of information. You have to be a legit developer with a game Valve had added to Steam.

If the chinks have figured out a way to bypass this handshake in a multiplayer game, that's a massive security hole. They wouldn't even need to bot, they'd just bypass the handshake for buying TP and give themselves infinite TP.
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>>159859819
>thinks steam is handling the authentication for ToS
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>>159859868

retard
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>>159859819
>>159859886
Samefagging is more effective when your posts don't include an extremely obvious tell. Stop digging.
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>>159859819
Your steam account isn't directly related to your ToS account. This is why ToS support is able to change which steam account a ToS account is tied to. The only part associated is the TP purchase.
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>>159859905
>responding to people responding to you is samefagging
Are you retarded?
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>>159859942

Technically it is, what will happen when the game is open is the client will ask steam what account is logged into the steam client. The client will receive a steam id and use this as your login credentials (because to get this id you need to have logged into steam).
Instead of having an account name + password in their database, IMC will just have your steam id.

What I am saying is, to get this steam id, they need to use valves steam api, which requires a legitimate steam game to use. If these chink botters have figured out a way to bypass or spoof the steam api, that is a massive issue that would allow them to bypass things like buying in game currency because they both use the same checks.
If this was true, botters would not need to bot. They'd just trick the game into thinking they bought a billion TP.
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>>159860092
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>>159857683
Very little.
Performance are still shit, balance between classes is even worse than 5 months ago, lots of bugs from ICBT are still here and they aren't getting fixed anytime soon.
But now we have gatchas and game is going full speed into P2W territory with broken mechanics designed to makes you waste years on them or few minutes as long you are willingful to pay
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>>159860321
What can I do with the 500 TP I have from the founder pack
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>>159860370

Buy stupidly overpriced decorative items.

Correction. Gamble for stupidly overpriced decorative items.
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Invite this guy already.
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>>159860370
You can buy 1 300 TP 10+1 roll gatcha and several 30 TP gatchas
All cosmetics but hair dyes and lens have been removed from direct selling so if you want a specific costume you have to buy gatchas and convert what you get in medals to echange with the costume you want, mind before gatchas costumes price was like 120 TP, now they are 270 TPs worths of medals.
Basically forget this game exist and leave us suffering alone
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>>159860413
>>159860469
Is the PvP still complete shit?
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>>159860626
Oh boy...PvP it's whales territory now, since you are a returning player your only chance to PvP it's using your credit card and buy lots of gatchas
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>>159860626

>>159845661
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>>159860626
I am so sorry you are interested in PvP
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>>159860626
Yes. It's still shit.
>>159860761
But this is wrong. I doubt I'm the only person in the top 20 5v5 that doesn't have a single transcended item or card equipped.
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>>159860862
It's still too soon for the whales to show up in full force, gatchas and P2W were implemented 2 days ago
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I heard Cats quit?
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>>159860918
>>159860761
Ooooo spoopy. The whale boogeyman isn't real and it's about your bedtime now poorfag-kun.
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>>159860994
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>>159861049
>>159860994
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>>159860787
This still happens?

>>159860761
>>159860862
Does skill matter at all?
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>>159861392
Yes, but not as much as builds and the team composition the queue gave you.
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>20 Gatchas later
>still don't roll the hat I want
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>>159862227
>Buying gatchas
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>>159862227
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>>159862227
Gotcha! hehehehe
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>standing completely outside of the red circle
>still take damage
literally every time
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>>159861531
People still play that clicker heroes shite?
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>>159862429
You're on fucking tree of savior general, you're not exactly off any better.
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>>159862297
>being poor

>>159862298
None of my rolls are that bad. I got a shitload of other hats but just not the two I want.
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>>159862468
necro bee farming is more interesting and fulfilling than that " "game" "
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>>159862494
>wasting money in this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qKg37sohc4
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>>159862881
I will buy one more gatcha to spite you, nerd.
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>>159861531
>There's a significant amount of single player games with a population higher than ToS, which has 6 different servers
Howling
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Just bought a Goddess Sphere and got a super nice hat.
Feels good to be part of the gvg mafia.
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>>159863401

ur op in pvp now
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>>159863210
One more 10+1 i hope
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>>159863401
What hat?
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>>159856565
>I am the bully
All your posts here make you look like a cry baby
Making excuses doesn't make you a bully
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When will IMC give us two slots for each hat slot? For one with stats and one displayed or at least let us destroy a hat with good enchants to put them on a better one
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>>159864508
soon on gachapon shop
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uhmmm
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>>159864745
that's the max price you can put costumes up for
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>>159844549
What PVE does ToS even have? Fuck nigga, I wish ToS had even a third of fun PvE content that XIV has.
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>>159864965
This. PvE in this game is not fun or challenging at all its just another repetitive chore to go through to get strong enough to do better in PvP.
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>>159865210
If I wanted to do better in PvP I'd be burning my savings.
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>>159862298
They need to guarantee a hat or something when you roll 10+1to prevent that kind of stuff from happening, other mobage gacha do that
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>>159853924
squire3
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>>159865210
Or you could just use your mother's credit card to get blessed shards and practonium soon TM enough.
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stop rolling gatchas

I need tokens
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Does cleric have a gacha costume yet
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>>159865875
No.

>>159866147
No.
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Time to put you faggots in your place.

ToS gacha is fucking nothing. I play motherfucking idolmaster, and let me tell you what real gacha is.

Look at this cutie. Literally best card to date for my strongest unit. She was an event card for last week, and you could pull her with 5% chance from gacha.
I did 70 rolls. Seventy fucking rolls. And I didn't get her. 5% per roll, and I didn't fucking get her.
What's more, I didn't get any of the Super Super Rare cards with 1.5% chance (so on average I should've gotten at least one), and most of my Super Rares were duplicates.
And the game doesn't have trade function, so I couldn't trade those SRs for the one I want.
THAT is real bullshit.

Gacha sucks, because it's RNG, true. You can get fucked over in the ass.
But at least, in ToS you get your money worth no matter what, so stop crying you fags. Because you haven't seen a REAL gacha, retard.
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>tfw even log in is becomming suffer
It's happening?
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>still playing Tree of Shit
>not playing Pokemon Sun/Moon right now with part of /tosg/ that actually matters
wew lads
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>>159866296
git gud
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>>159866296
The biggest retard here it's you and your gambling addiction in a fucking Idolmaster game.
Go seek help for your sake
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>>159866585
That was the best I could do. I dug up all the shekels I had from rewards, but it didn't happen. Now I'll have to wait like a year until some new card pops up for her. Or spend 25 bucks for a Scout Ticket.

>>159866646
I didn't spend a dime retard, but you sound like a buttmad poorfag.
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>>159866742
>That was the best I could do.
>I didn't spend a dime
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>>159866812
They don't let us gaijins waste their money. I'd have to find a legit jap to buy me a gift card.
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>>159866882
Nevermind I was thinking of another weeb game.

Reason I'm not spending money, because rolls are expensive as fuck (25 bucks for 10 rolls), and I'm not retarded enough to pay that for another chance, considering my luck is really bad recently. And I can get a scout ticket instead when they come back, which lets me pick any card I want.
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>>159866882
Well, that's a shame then. Wish you better luck next event.
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>>159866296
Game has always been garbage, I can't even answer "does IMC deserve my money?" with a positive answer anymore as I'm not having the fun I did before. Game just feels like a second job, it isn't nearly as rewarding as it once was.

I had hopes it'd get better but all is lost for me. This gacha is only the beginning, they'll implement broken shit ktos has, if not more.
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>>159866742
>but you sound like a buttmad poorfag.
>not being a gambling addicted means being a buttmad poorfag
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>>159866296
>I play motherfucking idolmaster
No, you play some shitty mobile game. Go play the real management sim games. The ones where you just spend all your money on dlc.
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>>159866428
installing the cia right now, more 30 minutes I guess
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>>159867416
We're talking about Gacha, not about biggest waste of money in the franchise.
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>>159866428
Ah yes, the discord circlejerk
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>>159867451
Gatcha or not, go play real iM@S, not that shitty mobile game shit.
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Okay how many of you whores are doing the fashion contest
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>>159867510
For 95% of people in this thread, it makes no difference if I say idolmaster, or "The Idolm@ster Cinderella Girls Starlight Stage", they know either way I made some poor choices in life and there is no reason to autism it up by saying full title.

And 765 girls aren't nearly half as cute as CGs.
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>>159867632
>playing a game named "The Idolm@ster Cinderella Girls Starlight Stage"
So you're both a nonce and a poofter?
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>>159868079
No and Maybe.
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/Dead Game/ when?
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Well I started playing again after the shitfest that I passe after beta started and how TP gained works? Can I only get 5 TPs?
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>>159868493
>Well I started playing again
Why?
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>>159868601
I still ask myself
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>Rank 7 and 8 exp cards are being added in Ktos
>Instantly puts you to class 15

DEFEND THIS
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>>159868493
You get 5 free TP per roughly a day. It won't go over that so either spend it on the cheaper premium items like revive crystal or use it as little %off if you buy something big.
Some events give a TP medal as reward which you can click too get a bigger amount.
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>>159868761
I wish those were here now. I can't stand to remake even one more time. They better give out one free at R9.
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>>159868493
>TP gained works? Can I only get 5 TPs?
You can still only accumulate 5TP
And the game is now p2w
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>>159868804
It also costs exactly 5 tp to remove a card from your card slot without losing a star
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>>159868761

Probably going to be how they handle class resets.

The current system is probably a pain in the ass for them to deal with.
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>>159868908
>p2w
niceme.me
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Why the fuck do I have 4 level 13 xp cards? I am in areas that give level 8 xp cards.
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>>159868858
This. If this game was RO or other grind/area/party based game I'd be fine, but right now people are soloing the same quests until 50, then instancing+afking with some warlock/necro/summoner till 200+ which they THEN start partying. I'm amazed people were hyped for 600 levels of this game, lol. Hey you make 8000000000 quests but at least you don't have to research and discuss about grindspots where you specialize to level faster right, everyone hated that and wanted "collect 5 flowers" quests with "flower exploded, there was a monster below the flower, this flower withered and died, this flower isn't proper, you cut your finger on the flowers leaves, the flower pricks hurt you and you couldnt pick up" RNG failure inflating the fucking shitty playtime of this game.
>>
The need to add randomly generated dungeons like diablo/poe
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>>159868908
>>159868804
Thanks, I thought it was too easy that way anyway, but you can only get TP as guild bonuses and in some events is that right?
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>>159869065
killcounts from halloween event
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>>159869116
And on the steam shop.
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>>159868971
>meme
If thats what you believe after silver gacha is implemented, it can't be helped anon.
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How was your day today anons?
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>>159869767
>log in
>felt to quit again
Pretty good so far
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>>159869767
thats messed up....
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>>159869767
>All my characters are still horrible in R8
>No one to help me get to 317 so I can do the practonium minigame
>stuck on 310 forever because solo is impossible

Could be better I guess
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is this game good if i want to pick up HOT GIRLS?
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>>159869102
It's not even only that. I can skip the quests, but they fucked grinding up somehow. It's not rewarding.

It's like there are all these drops you get, but you don't need them for a long time until you get some recipe you don't need that requires a bunch of specific ingredients. There's no feeling of common drops.

Like if all weapons needed iron, and various things dropped iron, you could spend some time farming iron from things around your level. But while there are a few items that are used in lots of stuff, mostly only one kind of thing drops it. There's also stuff you can get from monsters sometimes but the rate is so low. If monster orbs and gems were more common, it'd be better too. Items with different stats from the ones you make could drop.

All drops are so rare too. I don't want to go muh RO, so go to the Goddess's ancient garden and kill some long branched trees. That's what it should be like, 1-3 common drops from enemies instead of 1 drop every 20 enemies.

Because of this lack of multi use items, it makes it even harder to sell them for anything but gem fodder, even ignoring that most equipment is worthless. Because of that, it doesn't feel rewarding killing things. You just get nothing or else you get a bunch of items that you don't need and clog your inventory. All you have left is the boringness of getting .05% a kill, without even muh RO level of mobbing.

If only there were more uses for things/magnum opus worked with multiple items/completed items NPCed for 4x the recipe price/upgrades required mats/more skills required mats that monsters dropped, or something.
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>>159870359
no since they've already been picked by now
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>>159870359

It's a great game if you want to pick up CUTE girls with a surprise under their skirts!
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>>159870883
The best kind
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>>159870883
>CUTE girls with a surprise under their skirts!

>Using Gender Switch shop
>Game crashes
>Log back in
>Money gone
>Still female
>Have weird feeling
>Check under skirt
>Stuck as a futa
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>>159870883
Oh boy! I sure love surprises! I guess this games for me.
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>>159869153
Oh so the enemies get scaled down for most people.
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>>159871204
my favourite post so far
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Any cute boys want to level an alt with me?
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>>159871871

Stop that.

Boys(boys) are endangered enough as it is without you making the problem worse.
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are you shjtting my cock
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>>159872006
shan't be reading a line of that
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>>159872006
Did you just find out?
This has been used since early access.
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>>159871871
>Shimakaze
>boy
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>>159872195
It's absolutely insane.
Soon with class resets people will be able to have Safety Zone attribute with only cleric 1.
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>>159872302

Judging by the items they are adding to kTOS, class reset is actually "remake a character and use these items to instantly hit class level 15".
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>>159872258
>Hasn't read the official doujins
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>>159872429
>official doujins
Hmmm
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Venier/Fencer 3

Yellow Gems vs Red Gems

Prep + Fente vs Prep + Flash?
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>Getting my daily feel up from Faery
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>>159872429
SHE is a girl
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>>159872679
Mother fucker I will destroy you
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>>159872619
>choose between the one that gets modified by crits and the other that's useless when you don't
Hmmm. Fairly sure Balestra can almost hit damage cap with épée, usually you want to do these buffs to multi-hits considering how easy it is to hit the cap now with transcendence and what not.
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>>159872748
At least where I live, girls do not have penises
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>>159872679
Her enchants are mine, back off
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>>159872679

This is why I wont set up my enchanting shop.

You perverts would just take advantage of it!
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>>159872910
Im sorry anon but which one gets modified by crits?
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>>159873307
Ironically enough, the one that doesn't give crit atk, so red gems. Don't want to be rude, but how new are you?
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>>159872907
>>159873131
>>159873265
And I cancel right before it ends and do it as many times as I want until I'm satisfied
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>>159872679
Please don't lewd the Faery, she is pure.
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>>159873528

It's a good thing I'm a boy(boy). No one would dream of making me feel them up.
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>>159873539

I have photo evidence that suggests otherwise
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>>159873471
I'm fairly old but I have 0 idea about Fencer c3 and only managed to get mine to c2 so I have no clue how Epee works, I've heard that it doesnt actually multiply crit attack but the final damage instead?
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>>159873601
I know who you are and I'm going to steal your lunch money
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>>159873902
Epee is in fact a final damage multiplier.
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>>159873943
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>>159872679
>>159872907
>>159873131
>>159873528
>>159873539
>>159873867
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>>159873946
so the whole 'increases critical attack by 20% per level' is just a mistranslation?
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>>159873867
No such evidence exists
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>>159873867
You must post this photo evidence for... research purposes.
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>>159873902
Think of it as an additional enhance. Much like the melee debuffs, it indeed is an end modifier.
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>>159874008
yes, should be critical multiplier.
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>>159874008
It'd be absolute garbage if it worked like that
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>>159868761
How do you obtain them?
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We should all move to Shadowverse, the girls are more cute
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>>159874251
>Weaboo hearthstone
Rather move to the weaboo online game or wait for that chink mmo to get to IOBT.

Or you know, actually useful with my time, like studying or having more wanks
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What is this rank 7 and 8 card shit? Am I being misinfoed?
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>>159874183
>>159874143
>>159874102

So the Final Critical damage is increased by 140%?

Say I crit 30k would that mean it gets increased by 42k, 30k+42k = 72k final damage? how do people reach 200k crits though?
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>>159874492
what weaboo online game?
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>>159874492
weaboo mobile game*
actually do something useful*

wow I guess I'll go sleep

>>159874835
Granblue fantasy
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>>159874251
DING DONG
MIKO WHEN
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did Cats actually quit?
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>>159875286
Yes thanks to god.
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How do you calculate patk on classes that use sub weapon?

Like SR and Cannoner, do skills that use Gun/Cannon use the sub weapons attack instead of the main wep?
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>>159875286
Now the question is: Who will be the next attention whore quitting?
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>>159875141
NEVER
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>>159875640
me desu.
>>159875632
it should work like that, yes.
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>>159875640
i hope lolipan or shitgarden
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>>159875640
My guess is Lalaco.
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>>159876447
Next might be Capyba
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>>159876727

Hahahaha
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>>159875640
Beethoven, anyone that leaves for a week or two gets the time to think things over. Why was I wasting my life away at this shitty game when I could be doing "x"instead?
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>>159876843
t. Capyba
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>>159875840
>it should work like that, yes.
Is transcending/refining sub-weapons for those classes worth at all then?
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>>159876843
capyba is nice i hope she don't quit and fuck the mod for banning her.
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>>159877084
>she
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>>159877002
RIP Ohayou
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is catacombs pike still the best 2h spear?
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>>159877345
considering oranges are not in the game, yes
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>>159877259
Not from Ohayou but isn't Karga a wagecuck from SEA? How are you guys going to GvG now?
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>>159872619

in my case: balestra lv 5 (7) atrib 30, vs sept lv (5)7 atrib 40:

Leather armor, medium target:
Sept + Prep = 27.1 each it
Balestra + Prep = 153k.

Assuming you crit at least 7 hits (all 8 is possible if you use balestra first to do the crit resist debuff thing), Sept is better than Balestra for your Preparation charge, also remember that multihits for us are good because we ignore def anyway. Maybe with Divine Might balestra can be better than sept because of the huge scalling with a +1. There's also the "aoe scenario" were sept is limited to your aoe ratio and balestra always hits 10 mobs, so, keep this in mind.

>>159872910

fencer's c3 damage when you don't crit is irrelevant. you'll build your character around critting every single possible hit or you're doing it wrong. Even green gems are debatable for fencers (for off hand at least), since the bonus is higher. perfect setup with quicken and monstrance should prefer yellows.
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>>159876727
Who?
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>>159877543
Think its worth investing STR when they eventually change it to 2x or 3x phys attack per point?
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best class if want to have fun?
i have a wizard c3 linker c1 lvl 80 atm
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>>159877515
Karga can queue for GvG once a week
So the guild is doomed to wellfare 500 TP and not even guaranteed
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>>159877515
time to merge with FP and become the strongest /tosg/ guild
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>>159877543

Oh sorry, you need to crit all the 8 hits to sept be the strongest skill to burn your preparation charge. Fleche is shit because no +%attribute bonus.
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>>159877747
>going back under Lolicuck leadership
No
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>>159877738
Uninstall Wizard
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>>159877747
>going back under Loli leadership
I wish
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>>159877865
Karga has already usurped leadership once, he'll do it again, we have plenty of other templars to queue for us
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>>159877738
Wizards are basically the weakest base right now, nothing fun about that.
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>>159877865
we are secretly led by Rance right now
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>Fencer is god
>Doppel is god
>both are gods
>both get no other choice for r9 than to become a mexican

what the fuck bros
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>>159877747

If Ohayou splits up I'm going to kidnap Murbish into cute.

You can't stop me.
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>>159878141
>>159878051
which class is the most op and fun then
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>>159878137
t. Things that never happened or will happen.
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>>159877734

not sure my man, if you don't crit you don't do relevant damage as fencer c3. if they buff str maybe 1:4 or 1:3 builds may outdps the current full dex + red/yellow gems one if you have extreme fat green gems and quicken/monstrance support
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>>159877747
>shitposting traitors on suicide watch
LOL, try Crimson instead.
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>>159878195

wat

doppel 1 for fencer c3 (deeds 5) will be the best choice if a new rapier comes with the new level cap or if a new pierce clas (matador maybe) comes with a huge piercing skills base base damae, epee garde will make this even better
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>>159878220
For PvE, any meta Swordsman and Archer does well.
For minigames go Cleric.
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>>159878220
cleric
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Help me Fencer bros

Dagger or Shield? Before Shield was kind of unneeded for Fencer but with the damage spike wouldnt it be better to equip one instead like a didel tower shield? they have two slots too, also would casting Epee negate the whole shield along with its bonus or only the phys def?
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>>159878941

with a dagger you get the rapier mastery bonus: +15% damage, but shield is really interesting now.

epee garde negates only the shield's physical defense so you keep the other properties like C guard and mdef, +con and etc Didel is really a blessing since it has two slots which mean more powerful critical rate bonus in case of greens and also awesome +physical attack with reds. It's up to you to determine based on the situation if the shield's property are more interesting than +15% overall damage. Shield's second slot kinda compensates well, the overall dps loss should be something around 10% on a karacha with one green gem vs didel with two green gems scenarios.
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They finally fixed the fucking yekubites in ktos.
They now properly drop the materials to make a homunculus.
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>>159878403
>FP traitors
that's only 3 members retard
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>>159880791

>IMC claims they do drop the items
>It took them months to realise they don't

What the fuck IMC?
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>>159877738
Pelt1/Hoplite3 is a strong choice. Cheap as fuck to build (all you need is Geras Spear which costs pennies), can solo dungeons for money, can be build as DPS with Dragoon, support with Pelt3, tanking with Murm or burst dmg with Shinobi/Murm. It's piss easy to level once you get Spear Throw and before that point Sacrament will easily carry you through anything.
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>>159881001
Crimson awaits you, retard
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Good Game.
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>>159881193
what the fuck did you do
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>>159881027
HAHAHAHA

holy shit boy

are you fucking retarded? imc doesnt actually play the game, they are dumb as a rock but they are smart enough not to fall for "Play the Game" meme.
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>>159881635

When you make the game you don't need to play it.

Surely they know whether they set an item to drop or not. Someone has to add this to a mobs drop list...
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>>159881775
>Surely they know whether they set an item to drop or not
LOL
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Should I start playing if I just want a time waster? Haven't payed attention to this game since the closed beta (which I didn't get in), how is it right now?
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>>159881476
Unlocked Sheppard, look at the dog icon.
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>>159882146

There is one thing everyone who plays the game will agree on and that is that this game really is a big waste of time.
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>>159881775
>When you make the game you don't need to play it.

BECAUSE you made the game you need to play it, no software developer fucking ship content without testing if it is working according to what you intended. It's obvious IMC doesn't considering the amount of bugs every patch brings.
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>>159882351

anything that is not fucking for reproduction is a big waste of time
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>>159882351
honestly I feel like there's not enough things to even do anymore to waste time
>farming items is mostly pointless, no market and the best stuff is on a timer
>best way to make silver is just to dailies and sell shards/gems
>PvP is limited to two hours a day unless you want to get up at 4am
>literally rerolled every class already
>sitting in town makes me nauseous because of the 10 fps
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>>159882146
It's shit
If you are looking for a timewaste going into mobile gatcha P2W cashgrab
Tree of Shit it's the game for you
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>>159881193
Now my Sadhu is an Alchemist.
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>>159882851
spend your tp
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>>159882851
And it works, i'm also a Wugushiter now
>>159882949
NO
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>>159882146

if you are looking for a good game, go for anything else, but not this crap game
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Defend this.
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>>159882146
It's fucking horrible, I literally cannot understand why anyone who isn't invested on it would start playing now.
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>>159885156
desu if you have a 1000 prior hours its pretty fun but I would never tell anyone to start fresh in this game, it's just not worth it
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>>159885156
>>159885272
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>>159885272
Exactly, that's why I said anyone who isn't invested on it has no reason to fucking sticking around.
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Archer School Sailor Costume when?
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>>159885329
I don't even play anymore, I try to log in but honestly there isn't much to do or be interested with.

Seriously, this is what the company wants:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emarm-SkPiM
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>1 million hp quest boss that one shots me
How am I supposed to deal with this?
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>>159886951
Inflict damage until it dies.
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>>159884190
Easier to make a list of people to lynch.
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>>159886951
Just don't get hit :^)
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>>159886951
Ask for help IDIOT???
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>>159886979
>>159887186
Ok this took a while but worked, thanks.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4111666.1f2f35586171.1f213d415a65

What should i pick next? Was thinking Kabba2 to be full shitter, but don't know.
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>>159887887

I think PD2 would be your best bet, you could set stuff on fire and then use sadhu skills on top of that
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>>159888209
I think PD2 would bring the most dmg for my build, i'm full int (0 Con). The problem is the lack of debuffs to make incinarate last longer.
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>boy(girl)
so this meme came from the fact that even when you assign a new name to a crafted item, the original name still appears in brackets right?
funny that i see people in other threads using this without knowing the meaning.
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anyone have a picture of themselves wearing a sky blue crown? I want to see how big it is
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>>159888404
if you go PD2 you dont have to worry about having debuffs, a level 11 incinerate lasts 13 seconds (counting the required debuff) with 2 overheat. R7 will be kind of bland for a while though
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>>159888580
Yeah, that's exactly right, go spread it around.
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Is seriously superior corona the best rod until 315?
What a fucking letdown
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>>159888581
A big crown.
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>>159888669
Heal 16, Cure 16 and Possession (all 50% atrib) is a nice combo, sleeper one, but the dmg is huge. Guess the fun will start at rank8.
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>>159888817
For you
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>>159888797
No thats memehammer
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>>159888935
remember you can Cure into Incinerate since its a debuff. Or Deprotect Zone if you put a point into it.
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Guys guys, how's this for a Musketeer build? Is A2Hunt2Scout1Falc1Musk2 any good?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311228egg.1a284a5161.18243a41516571.14213545.1121354563.1a213a5175
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>>159889074
Already in Sadhu3 in that build, so no deprotect. Will have to wait for Plague shine in c2.
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SHE FUCKING PLAYS CHRONOMANCER 3 SAGE
HER BUFFS LASTS FOR 3 DAYS

AND SHE STILL MISS PASS AND FORGET TO USE LETHARGY

I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW SHE CAN BREATH AND PLAY AT THE SAME TIME
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>>159889136
100% cancer in PvP
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Does DPK reset if you leave the map/there is no one in the map?
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>>159889207
Also, https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4111666ee.1f2f35586171.1f213d415a65.162a3541526175

My points in Plague are right?
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>>159889053
I rembember selling that ages ago, how can you get another one?
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SR looks fun, how's it hold up end game? Also what's the standard skill build for one or is it just a max one skill and the rest is up to you? If I were to make one would QS or ranger3 be the better option
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>>159889215
...So it's viable? I wanted to do a huntfalc but I also wanted to re-do my shitty QSMUSK, and I didn't want to make two more alts so I just combined them.
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>>159889213
>SHE STILL MISS PASS
Pass is bugged, sometimes it just does nothing.
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>>159889324
yeah thats about perfect
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>>159889390
SR is really annoying to use, for r8 they are oki but not great.
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>>159889412
I mean its an ideal kind of pvp build but it'll probably be fine in PvE since you have Circling.
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>>159889213
What are you, retarded?
It's a known issue that pass is currently broken and will not affect party members after a few uses until you relog.

>lethargy
Literally no one gives a shit about it anymore ever since SR damage got changed to gun type.
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>>159889657
Okay thanks alot. Better take scout1 over hunt3 at advancement then.
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>>159889687
lethargy makes monks less subhuman
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>>159889761
For PvP? Yes
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>>159889687
>what are Murmillos
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>>159889687

>what are 300k cartar strokes
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>>159889390
ar2 r3 sr3 is the best build they are decent at rank 8 but are probably outclassed by doppels for aoe

max retreat shot and marching fire and then put the rest in limacon and concentrated fire.
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>>159890538
Something that isn't a doppel or a fletcher or a fencer, so irrelevant.
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do you max cartar stroke or just leave it at 1? Cause theres a ktos buff that further lowers the charge time of cartar stroke and im wondering if charging is actually worth it now
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>>159891295

if you don't give a shit about crown, you can move points into cartar stroke

just save your points from now, it won't make difference until you hit r8 anyway

what makes cartar stroke good is the 4 hits with a 150% mod that it does, it could have 0 base damage for what I care, but 15 with a very fast charging is really tempting
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>>159891295
keep at 5
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>>159891197
>people still misunderstand doppel
Their boss damage is outshined by Dragoon. Doppel is for AoE.
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anyone have a pic of a transc~ shoes?
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>>159892942

kill yourself

each hit of cyclone 15 + deeds 15 is a dethrone
and when a dragoon joint the party shit becomes scary
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>>159893070
>>159893070
>huh, he really doesn't kn-
>it's doublespace doomposter
oh
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>>159892942
>Their boss damage is outshined by Dragoon
AHAHAHAHAHA
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>>159892942
>Their boss damage is outshined by Dragoon
playthegame
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>>159892942
>boss damage is outshined by Dragoon
>boosted Dethrone twice does less damage than a cyclone
I never understood this meme, I mean its retarded in PvP but PvE its weak as shit
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>>159893070
>each hit of cyclone 15 + deeds 15 is a dethrone

Since when people do 500k per hit with Cyclone?
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>>159893350
Not him but I frequently dethrone non-leather bosses well above 500k. I've hit leather ones for 800k.
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>>159893350
It isn't, though. Dragoons shit damage on bosses.
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>>159893374

any retard with stage 4 gale slasher and 75% attributes, and that's on leather (neutral damage)
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>>159893762
You're vastly overestimating our damage. It's nowhere near that good and I have stage 3 transcend.
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>>159893908
Redel should deal that much
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>>159893762
"Any retard", then post a screenshot? if it's that easy to do 500k hit per cyclone, you shouldn't have problem getting one
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>>159893908

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UUt7EDWHlM

check this akisera guy, he's more retarded than swaaz (just check his posts) and see the damage he does with one fucking cyclone charge without dov stacks and just frenzy + a small warcry (low target counts)
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>>159894193
>slow boss kill speed
>his clones are hitting for 30k then 16k
why don't you watch it
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>>159894313
Did you fucking miss that he isn't using DoV you fucking retard?
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You guys are always so angry about everything in this game
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>>159894497
I try to be nice to everyone in this game
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>>159894313

jesus christ, check his dps
you can dethrone 4x in 16 seconds and you won't do the same damage
this was before he got stage 4 and he's using ellaganos

put deeds into the account and glass mole (remove str, this retard has a good amount of str), a better weapon and that's it.

this is the motherfucker alone, quicken gives cyclone extra hits, melstis keep glass moles online almost forever, there's literally no reason to support another dps swordsman that is not a doppel. I'm a geared fencer 3 and I can't compete with a doppel if I'm not a at least 30m richer than him. remember when quickcast broke the game with a single 700 matk rod? Well, deal with deeds 15 into a 2k attack weapon now.
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>>159891295
1 Wagon Wheel, 1 Cartar, 15 Crown, 1 Cross Guard, 1 Moulinet, 10 Skyliner, 1 Crosscut, 5 Skull Swing, 5 Vertical Slash. 5 leftover points for either Cartar (AoE) or Moulinet (boss).
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>>159889761
Beethoven has the exact build whisper him
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>>159894047
It really isn't hard to do 500k with that much transcendence. I'm doing this from memory, but the sword has 427 patk, so you have 854 with 100%, plus 350ish from the min atk and patk bonus turns this into 1400ish damage on the sword alone. It's fairly easy to reach 2200 patk with that, which would net you 6000 after deeds. Add in skill damage, crit atk and the boost from critting, Zwerchhau, Cleave and enhancing and it really wouldn't be hard to get far over 30k per tick, which is more than 500k on Cyclone 15
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>>159894590
you have literally no idea how much damage dethrone does do you? i can do that much in 2 dethrones lmao
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why is playing swordsman such a big dick waving competition? I mean you don't see Wizards or Archers talking about who has the bigger dicks per second
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>>159894748
13 year old's main base class.
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>>159894724

sure you do, post your webm
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>>159894748
>I mean you don't see Wizards or Archers talking about who has the bigger dicks per second

You're new, I see.
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>>159894748
>not doing BIG DICK DPS
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>>159894724
Now it's your time to post proofs nigger
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how fucked i will be just going blind without choosing some cookie cutter build and planning ahead?
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>>159894748

archers did this literally the whole time until fletcher proved to have the largest cock with magic arrow

wizards had elememe warlocks shitting on pyros (pyro was actually stronger in a perfect dps scenario but has some problems), or cryokino rc for burst

swords has a small room to discussion now with fencer 3 x doppel 3, but some dragoons think that they are here to do dps too and not to just buff the damage of the other two
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>>159894572
rance what cards do you use on your PD
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>>159894921
If you have friends to carry you, nothing at all.

If you play solo and rely on retards that you encounter along the way, you'll have trouble.
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>>159894996
>pyro was actually stronger in a perfect dps scenario but has some problems
Only for single target, which elememe was never about.
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>>159895018
That isn't me. On my PD I use no cards at all because I haven't decided which I want and I'm a jew. I haven't bothered with his gear at all, there aren't even gems in his weapon or shield.
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>>159894921

that's a lot of useful cockie cutter builds that are fun to play

it's not fun to "follow my random autistic path" only to found yourself raging because of bad class synergies, lack of support power or dps/utility


tell us what you want to play: tank, healer, cc, pure dps, dps mixed with tankness, magic or physical, craft, etc
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>>159894921
pick a cookie cutter build so that when you reroll later, you can use your first char to farm money and gear for you
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>>159895128
theres literally no harm in putting in 8 1 star dullahans senpai
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>>159895018
I'm not rance, sorry
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>>159895197
spoonfeed me some huge numbers mage build senpai
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>>159895095

even for aoe depending on the number of targets or what support class we had to work with the pyro
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>>159895095
QC Level 15 Flame Ground > FC though
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>>159895292
Well yeah anything is good with linker.

>>159895351
Way smaller radius.
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>>159894921
It's easy to fuck up and have no way to redeem your character if it's not cookie cut and you don't research heavily on what everything does

>>159895274
Mage is currently the weakest damage and good support but you can do elememe, pyro, or featherfoot and hope for the best
I'll explain whatever sounded coolest to you
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>>159895095
>He doesn't remember the "Cyclone outdamages Frost Cloud" discussion
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>>159893350
>>159893292
>>159893269
>PvE its weak as shit
wew lad

400% + 5997
vs
600% + 4296 (6 hits)
Not to mention all elemental damage, concentrate, blessings and shit will apply to each hit individually.

But sure, I guess it doesn't even compare. Snipe's range must make up for the fact it's not a huge AoE attack.


>boosted Dethrone twice does less damage than a cyclone
wew lad x2

Serpentine:
700% + 6482 (7 hits)
Dragon Soar:
500% + 4170 (5 hits)
Both AoE, of course.

The only thing Musketeer has that clearly outmatches Dragoon is Covering Fire which is godly (and aesthetically magnificent). Headshot is a slightly better single target version of Gae Bulg.

Let's not even get started on Doppelgoon which is what I played on kTOS. Don't you ever dare to compare my precious Dragoon to Musketeer scum again.
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>>159895657
Of course I do, we were talking about mage though.

Next you'll say Zaibas is better than FC too.
Which it is now, fucking meme magic.
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>>159895351
>>159894996
Once Agni necklace is added, Pyromancer is the most viable DPS wizard class in the game.

Pyro 3 into Linker then into Sage or Enchanter is insane.
Necklace gives 400% damage to fireballs and 250% to flame ground and fire pillar. Linker is obligatory for the huge damage bonus linked shit gets. Sage is amazing for duplicating fireballs, Enchanter is amazing for the 500 damage they add to every hit (which becomes 2000 to fireballs and 1250 to flame ground and fire pillar).
Thaumaturge is also nice to take for the bonus damage which again gets massively amplified.

With decent gear and attributes, you can be dropping fireballs that are doing 200k damage each. You sword shitheads might not think this is much, but this is the best a Wizard can do. Especially when it's 2 every 16 seconds.
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>pasta hour
I knew this was coming.
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>>159896020
its almost time for dinner
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>>159895979
>wizard dps
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>>159895274

aoe path: also know as elememe. the aoe monster up to rank 7 and still decent at r8 (but you'll have some problems with super magic defense mobs at the extreme end game)

Wiz 3 - > Elementalist 3 - > Warlock 2

Wizard 3 is there to support your later dps ddamages.
It has sure spell so monster won't break your channelings (hail, electrocute), magic missile (a awesome "aoe" damage") and quickcast. Quickcast is the shit, it's like having 100% critical rate 100% uptime for magic. quickcast is a buff that has a special attribute: increases your magic damage +50%, everything you do with magic will be 50% stronger with this buff).

>ele 3

the aoe wizard. Hail, electrocute, meteor and specially frost cloud. Frost cloud is a massive cloud of destruction that hits fast and strong a great number of targets

>warlock
huge dps burst and decent aoe (but with a long cooldown) on pole of agony

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111bbbff.13213f41516a7585.1e3f41576185.11213a41
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>>159895979

agni works on your dps after all the calculations but before qc

if you face a 2k mdef monster, you'll do 100 dps ticks without agni and 400 with it on, 450 with qc+agni
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>>159896274
Attack damage is added to each hit individually.

Each hit in Dragontooth deals 100% + 716 damage.
Thus the total damage is 600% + 4296.
Just like Snipe's total damage is 400% + 5997.

Holy shit I know the average /vg/ user is an autist but c'mon.
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POST THE SWAAZ ONE
>>
people should just go Wiz3Ele3Linker2 if they want to do DPS
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>>159896576
NO!
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>>159896990
t. bait

W3Link3WL2 is better than that shit you posted

even with dark damage being nerfed, WL base high-damage will always be better
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>>159840349
>>159860994
>>159861049
>>159861203
>>159875286
>>159875486
>>159875640

Cats just taking some time and planning the next character. He'll let you know when it's hot and ready
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>>159897106
why is Murbish so mean
>>
>>159897106
>still fucked by hunters
enjoy your meme class I guess
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>>159897210
>Murbish will never stab you
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>>159897293
post THAT webm
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>>159897337
post WHAT webm?
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>>159895873
Never played the class, but it seems fairly weak outside FC even in its glorious days. Wish they stopped buffing swordsmemes and did something about that
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>>159897337
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>>159897443
>but it seems fairly weak outside FC
Yeah that's the only good aoe skill wiz3ele3 had.
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>>159897480
magnificent post
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>>159874220
you dont

if its in files, does not mean we/they can get it. there is a lot of stuff unused
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>>159895603
elememe and pyro sounds nice
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>>159897480
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>>159897725
No they don't.
Don't even think of playing a mage dps.
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>>159897337
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>>159896178
oh i think i will go with this one.
in what order should i advance classes?
also what are some of the best skills to level early in each respective class?
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>>159897337
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>>159898154
You WILL regret this.
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>>159898456
ok then spoon feed me a pirate build
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>>159898508
He's right, you'll regret memementalist, but you'd regret corsair even more.
>>
>>159898508
It's like you get attracted to the worst classes. Pelt hop2 cor2 dragoon2, doubles as a pvp build
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>>159898508
Wiz dps in general takes a lot more funding and effort than it used to in order to become decent.

Just roll a fencer 3/fletcher 3 mergen/doppel 3/chrono 3 or any cleric 2 and you will be happier.
>>
>>159897480
Mia please come back to itos
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>>159898583
fuck this gayass game then.
what are the "good" classes?
>>
>>159898085
defend this
>>
>>159898712
Squire
>>
What the fuck do you do to level from 160 to alemeth range these days? QUEST?
>>
>>159898754
He blocked a few times
>>
>>159896449
wew lad

400% + 5997
vs
600% + 4296 (6 hits)
Not to mention all elemental damage, concentrate, blessings and shit will apply to each hit individually.

But sure, I guess it doesn't even compare. Snipe's range must make up for the fact it's not a huge AoE attack.

>>159895979
wew lad x2

Serpentine:
700% + 6482 (7 hits)
Dragon Soar:
500% + 4170 (5 hits)
Both AoE, of course.

The only thing Musketeer has that clearly outmatches Dragoon is Covering Fire which is godly (and aesthetically magnificent). Headshot is a slightly better single target version of Gae Bulg.

Let's not even get started on Doppelgoon which is what I played on kTOS.
>>
>>159898923
AFK at bees until 202 senpai
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>>159897725
They're decent and both do an alright job at damage, still get outclassed by other dps but it's something

Elememe is what >>159896178 said, wiz3 gives you utility abilities for the other class skills, elememe has frost cloud to shit damage on anything that gets in the way, warlock has decent damage, and lets you go back and farm any low level map fucking easy

Pyro is versatile, but requires you to take linker in order to actually do worthwhile damage

The main idea of picking pyro is to pop down fireballs, which are literally just that, you put a ball of fire in front of you and shit takes damage when it walks into it until it runs out hits and disappears
Flame ground does constant damage to anything on top of it, it's great damage but won't do shit to anything that's flying
Flame pillar is a lot like that but has a fucking painful cooldown time and it can hit flying things
Hell breath is cool but only there if you decide to go for pyro3

Everyone loves having a linker in their party, just taking it means you'll be wanted in every grind party no questions asked, more ranks is more love for you

Joint penalty links enemies together and they all take damage for a single hit, hitting multiple enemies is like hitting them all multiple times
Hangman's knot pulls all the link enemies together and has an attribute to remove AoE defense, which is helpful to have
Spiritual chain shares buffs, which can be good or bad if someone doesn't want the damn swift step

If you don't take pyro3, and only take 1 or 2 ranks in linker, you can go for chrono, which adds more support skills
Rank 8 leaves you with the choice of either sage or enchanter, or chrono if you took it

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21222777e.15243551.1f5a657f.113f4f5965.11314185
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are necromancers any good?
>>
>>159899105
Take a time machine to 6 months ago and they're overpowered. Just don't roll them NOW because they're useless.
>>
>>159899090
Why are you giving people bad advices?
Mage dps aren't decent at all.
>>
>>159899105
They're good at afk'ing at bees for silver.
>>
>>159899174
They're just decent anon, they're not spectacular in the new content, but they can hold on their own still

And he asked specifically for mage dps, so that's what it is
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu9vZJ3Bkag

>Homunculus are only useful for wizards
>Can only put skills in it after you use the Philosophers Stone

DEFEND THIS
>>
alright then i think i will just go with pyro
its not like i will not quit this in 3 days anyway
>>
>>159899276
>They're just decent anon
They aren't even that.
>>
>>159899332
they only last 24 hours?
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>>159899332
>she really expect that new pet to be not total shit
dumbo
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>>159899497
10 days, the timer counts down as soon as you use the stone
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>>159899582
oh hehe, that was a 9, I thought it was a gook rune
>>
>>159899332
so that means that every Wiz3Kino3 just got a second raise because the Homonculus uses their own skills and not the alchemists?
>>
>>159898923
Make new characters and level them all up through the 160-190 hell simultaneously by doing the halloween event.
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>>159900027
Yes, this thing is useless for anyone who isnt a wizard
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>Enchanters Agility buff does nothing
>even worse than doing nothing, you cant remove that buff (like other R8 buffs)
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oh by the way is 4 spr 1 con a good stat allocation for pyro?
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>>159900176
>SPR
>wizard
>>
>>159900176
Pyro is one of the few classes that actually should stack INT. Don't get any SPR.
>>
>>159900176
0 SPR for everyone
some CON
high or full INT for 'DPS wizard'
>>
>>159900189
DO IT

CLOVER UPRISING

NOW
>>
>>159900287
reminder that people actually did full SPR pyro builds in ICBT2. I mean we had free stat resets but kek
>>
whats the best doppel build now?
>>
>>159900361
smart ppl didnt. it was shit back then too.
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>>159897480
d-d-d-delete that!

>>159898705
Sorry anon, i can not return to the land of no migo.
>>
>>159900795
are you a chink?
>>
>>159901126
Mia's a bearded neet from Germany
>>
>>159901126
Mia is a German name
>>
>>159901126
Mia is German
>>
>>159901452
>>159901464
is she a neo nazi?
>>
>>159901464
How is Mia a german name?
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>>159901126
>>159901535
>>159901452
No.

>>159901578
I dont know?
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>>159901680
Where are you from?
>>
>>159901578
It's a girl name popular in Germany, sorry.
>>
>>159901794
>>159901525
>>
>>159901868
Never heard that name in my 14 years in germany
>>
>>159901578
Well some nip chick managed to snatch a kraut's balls.
>>
move

>>159902438

>>159902438

>>159902438
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