/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

First for how the fuck do I become a hearthperson? The only option for joining a civ is to be a performer. I checked the wiki and everything.

>>159774834
Those things won't deter them. They'll run straight over the traps and right into the animals if that's the shortest path off the map. The entire rest of the labyrinth will be superfluous, you may as well make a straight corridor filled with traps and animals.

If you want them to treat it like an actual labyrinth you'll have to get more creative. Pressure plate controlled doors and bridges that alter paths, deadfalls that force creatures to re-enter the labyrinth at different points, moving water hazards that cut off exits and push creatures onto different paths, innocuous bait animals behind windows to trick them into taking dangerous routes...
Those are just ideas off the top of my head. You get the idea, though. A maze alone isn't going to do what you want it to.
Also, the other anon is right, they'll need a path off map or a visible pathable target to motivate them to run your maze.

>>159776636
The other anon was me but, thanks I will work on this. This is still an early fort (around ~50 dwarves), I'm just trying to lay framework for now. So I'm gonna have to get really elaborate with this thing.

>>159776423
Are you asking someone whose title is Lord or Lady? If not you're asking the wrong person.

>>159776926
Yeah I'm asking a Lady. Still only get the performer option. Does it matter that I'm only in a village?

>>159776797
>The other anon was me
Oh, I see. The thread died while I was typing my reply, I only added that last bit after skimming (poorly, apparently) the rest of the replies.

Well, good luck and keep us updated.

>>159776995
It shouldn't, no. Is the Lady in charge of the site you're at or is she travelling?

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>>159777608
She seems to be yeah. But the ruler of the civ lives in the same castle, I dunno if that's important. Pic related, my only dialogue options. I've got 43.03 by the way.

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>tfw no elf gf

>>159777925
I binged that show in like a day and had a fucking blast playing DF adventure mode for the next few weeks. Really changed how I visualized dragons.

>>159777789
Have you tried asking the ruler? That could be the issue.

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>>159778394
Tried the ruler, got this

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>>159777925
>tfw no demon elf gf (male)

>>159778782
>Obsidian font

My dude

>>159776797
Have a pressure plate room with a cat in it to sometimes open up the exit. Make it so its logic is mostly showing closed. They'll random around while the exit is shut

>>159778669
Do you have any reputation at all? Maybe that's a prerequisite now.

>>159781573
Oh, huh, I don't. I'll have to work on that then. How many dead people do I need till I work up a title? 5 I think?

>>159780795
I actually have a plant to rig up pressure plates in various high traffic rooms of my fort to various bridges in the maze (which is now three levels tall in the plans) so that the route to the exit is constantly changing.

Thanks, I really do appreciate the advice you guys are giving.

>>159781929
5 notable kills, but that's not necessarily related to your reputation. Ask people about troubles, pick something nearby and go kill it. Come back and brag about it, and then you'll have a heroic reputation. I would avoid bandits and criminal organizations, they're likely to have friends in town who'll be pissed about it and could muddy things up before you can become a hearthsperson.

>>159782850
plan*

>>159782953
Muddy up as in try to bump me off or cause a loyalty cascade?

>>159783210
You could simultaneously get a reputation as a protector of the weak and a murderer. The latter may negatively affect the Lady's opinion of you. She might let you be a hearthsperson anyway. Accept your request and spit at you in the same turn. She might not, though.

So keep getting an error saying my doctors can't set a bone because they lack a splint. So I go ahead and Q up a splint and once it's gone from my workshop still getting the same issue. So I Q up a half dozen more and doctors still claim to not have any splints. What's the issue? Do they have to be stock piled/storedin the hospital or something?

>>159783632
All right, I'll try it out.

>>159785479
Yes, they have to be stored in boxes and/or bags in the hospital.

>>159785987
Weird. He grabbed anything else he needed right from the stockpile. I guess splints are the odd one out.

Not that it really matters because right now I am trying to drive this fort to FUN and let it crumble. It has lasted far longer then I was expecting already but I don;t want it to limp slowly to it's death. I need to embark in a new area and may as well leave the old one in style.

What's the quickest way to self destruct a fort that does not involve reaching the circus? Want to be done with this fort but I can't just retire it in good consciousness. It has to burn to the ground.

>>159789302
Collapse it on top of itself. Be ready for survivors though who will most likely starve to death in untouched corners.

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>>159789302
>>159789426
and blame it on the elves

>>159789426
This.

Just start by digging out the layers above your fort, if you haven't, already. When you've dug out every layer above your fort, you just use channels from above to collapse the topmost soil floor down through the entire fort, leaving the entire thing exposed to the world above.

>>159789690
>>159789426
That may be a problem due to all my dorfs being (intentionally) malnourished, dehydrated and sleep deprived. So could be done but it will be slow going.

>>159789837
>not keeping your little ants happy and well fed with bread and circuses right up to the moment you pull the rug out from under them.

>>159789837
An update. I just got a wave of fresh, healthy, useless migrants. So that will sadly prolong the forts existence long after the others die. Damn migrants ruining everything.

>>159790025
Also somehow the majority of my dwarfs are still happy. I have no idea how. I guess all the engravings I put in the dormitory and pub really were worth the trouble. So atleast they got some pretty pictures to watch before they die. I wonder if future dorfs will make carvings of them

Is this what it feels like when you're one of the many workerdorfs trundling around crafting bullshit stone trinkets or slapping gems on shit for caravans when you hear about the caravan coming to bring news of the fort being elevated, and rather than the baroness everyone expected to get the job, the one that bitches and wants people beaten over protectionist trade policies and irrational personality traits is chosen as the new baron?

I remember that there was a script for an older version (0.34) that allowed to change adventurer to any selected creature(creature becomes playable adventurer, saving all its personal info, items and status). Does 0.43 have it?

>>159790175
Dwarves would Make the Fortress Great Again

>>159790175
Overcome with joy?
Yes.

>>159791067
Oh, forgot this is 4chan, but this isn't /pol/ and some of us are too old to be comfortable with memes taking over real life this much.

>>159791067
We did it, party in /dfg/ for us /pol/ American Urists

I wish all these /pol/fuckers would fuck off back to their board.

>>159792623
Sorry, I love America and Dwarf Fortress.

>>159792623
>Make /dfg/ great again.

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>R: 45 / I: 7

ded gen

>>159776168
>>159776168
That was the op image like two threads ago. Are we seriously that lacking in banners we have to recycle the same ones every few threads?

>>159789302
I love making forts under lakes and then opening the totally not intentional floodgates and kill everyone when fps reach 40

>>159794935
Stop making these, it's legitimately embarassing.

>>159795050
Calm down anon.

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>>159795328

>>159795730
Accurate. At least we aren't the most hostile general in /tg/. In fact we may be the least hostile.

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>>159776168
Yo, to the anons that insulted me for not reading the wiki: thanks. The wiki's way better than the vids I've seen.

>>159796323
/vg/*

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If there was ever a time to play LCS, this is it, folks.

>>159797380
I never managed to get past the early game in LCS. How do you actually get good at fighting?

Also, which version is best? Toady's last version or the last fan-maintained version?

>>159797630
I've been out of it for a while, but the fan-made I played was superior to the last one Toady put out.

The best way to actually win is to set up different squads and limit knowledge, just like a real life cult. Start your dude as a charismatic guy with a manifesto, recruit 1-3 other charismatic people, have charismatic people recruit squad leaders. Have a squad for fightan, a squad for hackin' (start by stealing credit card numbers until they're really good, then move to hacktivism), and a few rabble squads to run around throwing paint on people. No one but the 1-3 inner party members even know who your main dude is, and make sure all of them are squeaky clean crime-wise. Keep all the squads in separate houses, get a sleeper agent in the police station ASAP to know when raids are coming.

Squads for situational things, like seduction, fundraising, legal activism, etc can be created on a provisional basis.

Your fightan squad will get better from killing people. Start with soft targets (apartments, AM radio, park). You'll lose people, but you can just replace them with veterans/gang members. Natural selection will eventually give you a squad of nigh-unkillable badasses that can take down tanks with assault rifles.

This way, even if you lose your entire organization you'll still have your leader to build things back up from scratch, and can basically win the game through attrition.

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>>159797380

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>>159797865
why did the fans turn LSC into an sjw fest?

how long does it normally take for therapist to update to the newest version??

>>159798690
It's meant to be rediculous and an exaggeration of real-life liberalism. Try not to get triggered so hard by the very mention that trannies exist.

>>159799582
>the very mention that trannies exist
but they really don't. it's a cognitive disorder

>>159800060
Today I learned a 6-Spd Tremec is a cognitive disorder.

>Send 7 stronk miners with a shitload of food and grog to embark point
>Wall them in
>get what work I can out of them
>simple refuse pile burials, if at all possible
>Rinse & Repeat digging grand & greedy
>Claim

What's to stop me?
Other than ghosts that don't exist lmao you retard

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>>159802106
as of the myth release, ghosts will probably require a certain level on the fantasy slider

>>159800060
A cognitive disorder would be something like a learning disability, much like your inability to process information regarding the existence of trannies.

can't trump the bump

>>159803219
I think this ones my favourite yet

There's no more good succession forts, are there? It seems like every fucking one of them on Bay12 either has no players, is just shit, or if it ISN'T shit, there's some fucking faggot whose dorf has to be from an alternate dimension or working for a super high tech secret company or a wizard or some other bullshit.

Just because it "worked" in Syrupleaf doesn't mean every fucking fort needs that uninteresting faggotry.

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>>159807078
it's bay12, what did you expect

>>159807776
Okay, so ignoring your totally unhelpful comment, are there any left?

>>159796323
Funny, someone in /cfog/ claimed the same thing about their general just yesterday.

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>tfw the new king of all dwarves is a goblin

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It's that time again fellow dwarves

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>>159813652
>ded thred already
THANKS TRUMP

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Kobold Scrapper on the side of the D.S.S space station.
Right by the Trash Chute.

>>159814886
noice.

never stop running, timbuk-fampai

>>159814886
!!!

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>>159778782
>his tongue is somewhat long

>>159813652
whats the original of this comic? Is this it? Is it icefrog? ????

>>159819610
I like to lick a lemon lollipop in Lillihammer.

>>159810638
You know what to do

>>159819610
Succubus race mod best mod. They have a fort mode too. Its actually kinda neat because you can convert captures prisoners into subtypes of demons specializing in different skills.

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so what sort of cpu should I be getting for maximum df performance? I heard that it isn't optimised for multiple cores, so do modern cpu's even make a difference?

>>159820626
i was actually just thinking what sort of seks mods df has, as I think it would be interesting going around adventuring as a spider man raping fair maidens and bashing any foes with one of my 6 shields im wielding.

>>159820710
Fucking whip scorpions man. I think I'm going to mod them in.

I have an i5 4670k at 4.2ghz and I never have problems. I also play on a couple of laptops and notice bug drops so I reduce embark size accordingly.

The toadman's forums are pretty salty about election results. He's not the kinda guy who would try to push a political agenda with his game, right? Like we don't need to worry about that? I don't mind the homosexual animal stuff because that's documented to happen in nature btw, I just don't want to see the game go to shit because muh virtue signaling.

>19 hours
>87 replies
>28 posters

Shit, are we becoming /ded/?

>>159820891
Succubus Fortress mode has some things you can do to raise the morale of your workers that include being temporarily turned into a nude statue and being violated by tentacle monsters.

>>159822372
Probably just everyone paying attention to the election.

>>159822367
>He's not the kinda guy who would try to push a political agenda with his game, right?
Not with his baby.

>>159822367
Gib link

I wanna see the butthurt

>>159822367
If he wanted to push his political opinions into the game, he'd have done it already.

>>159822582
>>159822701

All right then, that's a relief. Pity the fanbase isn't as levelheaded. On a semi-related note, I never realized how many furries played the game.

>>159822696
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=159257.0

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>>159820565
sure do

>>159810638
>hardworking
>hates foreigners stealing from honest countrymen.
>likes gold
>likes large construction projects
>not a dorf

>>159822367
The closest you'll get to a political agenda is the introduction of asexuals and homos, but no one gave a shit because it was related to the update it came with

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>>159821858
I like spiders, like really like spiders a lot, but those still push my nope button in a way ordinary scorpions don't.

>>159825305
It's lucky that they're neither spiders nor scorpions, then.

Also, as for your pic: RIP tilesetanon's aurantia

>>159825583
She's in the feezer til I figure out how to preserve her better.

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I've had 6 crashes on the labor manager screen (note for self: attempting to type a capital "B" when labelling a dwarf's profession will crash dwarf fortress)
And 3 crashes in the dwarf labor menu.

I've spent a hour and half just trying to tidy up my dwarf labors. I might as well just keep autolabor running and suffer it's clumsy use of my dwarfs.

>>159824785
>no one gave a shit
Were you actually around when it went in? A lot of people lost their shit over it; some felt it had no place in the game or that Toady was pandering to the liberals in the playerbase, some felt it didn't go far enough and that Toady should add more genders and sexualities, and some slipped in the shit and got it everywhere over the associated animal sterility bug that Toady never said a peep about until it was fixed nearly 2 years later. Threads were locked, bans were issued. That was just on bay12. The reaction here was more... colorful.
The "Toady is an sjw" meme started there and has continued to this day.
Also, I'm not opining on the feature itself, I'll just note that it wasn't related at all to the update it came with. Variable sexualities were completely isolated from and unrelated to any other feature that was introduced in .40 or any version since.

>>159828001
I don't browse bay12. All I remember is on here people just shitpost about all their animals being asexual on embark. Though there probably was a lot of whining on /v/ but that was around the time I stopped going there.

>>159828001
I personally don't mind it since it follows real life, with small percentages of animals being homosexual and all. Besides, there's nothing stopping people from genociding the gays if they so choose.

Procedurally generated sexualities when

>>159829773
There's nothing stopping you if you use external utilities to identify gay creatures. There isn't any way in the vanilla game to know a creature's orientation until they're in a relationship with another creature. With animals you just have to wait and see if they reproduce and make the best guess about which animals refuse to fuck based on the circumstances of your available population. That's not very hard with domestic animals, but if you catch, say, two jabberers over the course of 5 years in game and they never lay fertile eggs you're just flipping a coin to figure out which one isn't dtf.

>>159825305
Pretty sure whip scorpions are 100% harmless. Don't bite, no stinger. All they can do is harmlessly poke you with their bitch arms.

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>>159829773
The most absurd thing is how extremely discreet homosexuality and asexuality is in the game. No one shoves it in your face. Instead, you have to actively look for it to see it. As for the asexuality, it's so marginal that it doesn't affect the game in any meaningful way.

Also, it wasn't asexuality or homosexuality that prevented dwarves from having children. Instead, it was unwillingness to get married, which is handled by an entirely different mechanic, and unrelated to sexuality.

>>159830293
RNG'd fetishes when

>>159830486
The bug didn't prevent dwarves from having babies, it was just animals. And it isn't unrelated, it's literally the same line in the raws.

Is there any benefit to becoming a lord in adventure mode?

>>159830854
except it's not. the raws differentiate between sexuality and willingness to get married. asexuality is caused by the former, although the latter will also determine whether a creature will breed.

>>159831413
Yes, it differentiates between them with a single creature token. The orientation token controls the propensity of a creature to have relationships of any kind with the given gender. Whether or not they're willing to marry and their sexual preference for each gender are both variables of their orientation, generated at the same time by arguments of the same creature token.

>>159806516
thank you

>>159813652
>no he he he
You had one job

Labyrinth-fag back again. My computer needed to be put through a complete restore. Saved my fort on usb but, while I'm waiting I'm trying to think of more ways to make it interesting. My end goal is to have a dungeon/arena where I can hold a battle royale among prisoners and "lucky" gladiators in an ever changing maze. Think hunger games/battle royale only it's one mile beneath the earth in a maze.

Things I'm already including:
-Draw bridge barricades to re-route the exit
-Weapon traps
-Live animals in the corridors
-Three z-level maze
-An "exit" that is a long corridor with traps just in case anyone makes it that far

I was working on water traps, however I lack a river and am draining the nearby swamps into a resevoir for storage.

I also might throw in cheapo weapons at random spots for the runners to use to make it interesting.

>>159833013
The weapons won't do any good. The only way an unarmed creature will equip a weapon in fort mode is by having a labor assigned that uses the weapon (miner/woodcutter/hunter), having it assigned to them from the military screen, or wrestling it away from another creature.
If you're dropping invaders in anyway you could just not disarm some of them.

>>159833439
Oh, alright. I know the invaders would still be armed. I guess I could set up a military squqd and call it "gladiators" or some shit.

>>159833662
Just put trouble makers or random ass mercs from the tavern in it.

>>159825305
I don't mind the odd archetypal "spiderbro" spider - as in, stays well out of my way in a peaceful coexistence. But once our paths cross I feel it's necessary to establish myself as the dominant race.

>>159831176
No, and in fact when you retire the adventurer he'll immediately abdicate the position, which annoys me endlessly.

Hopefully we'll get some quality of life adventure mode changes next update

Has there been any major changes to the raws since 40.x? Would mods created for that version work with 43.05?

>>159835000
got any rare botes?

can i use the mass pitting technique with just a 1x1 hole? Do they need to be spaced two tiles apart? If The drop is only one z-level will prisoners try to climb back through the hatch?

I just now learned how to pit/pond after all these years of dwarfing
I just made a well in my hospital with it
I feel like an elf

I accidentally beat a peasant to death. How mad is everyone else in the town going to be?

>>159838265
I mean. How would you react if some asshole came along and beat some poor wretch to death in the street. I really have no room to talk because I'm working on some dystopian horror arena for my fortress and I usually massacre entire fortresses as an adventurer.

>>159838265
How do you ACCIDENTALLY beat someone to death?

>>159839214
I only wanted to beat him half to death, but the guys lower body exploded after a particularly good kick. Poor bastard.

>>159839214
Ask the captain of the gaurd in your local fortress, they seem to get pretty good at it, especially when someone "accidently" breaks the export ban.

>>159838265
Do you guys think they'd forgive me if i killed the local ettin?

>>159839669
"You are a hero, ended the days of x. You are also a murderer, you slew y."

>>159839829
more like
>"You are a hero, ended the days of x. You are also a murderer, you slew x."
Why are people so bipolar in this game?

>>159839997
there is no weed to smoke, thats one problem. They have hemp but you still cant use glass to make bowls and bongs.

>tfw no crystal glass bong menacing with obsidian spikes

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>>159830485
Yeah, the vast majority of spiders, scorpions, wasps, bees, and so forth are harmless... though wasps are dicks.

It's just those ones have the wrong combination of features, oh and house centipedes! Just triggers the hand-flick+shudder response the way only finding a black widow under a block of wood you're moving, or a recluse on your collar does for me. Which is weird cause widows are really pretty actually, and recluses are chill little dudes that just want somewhere cozy to hide in, like a coat hanging on a wall...

>>159833860
That's why I dig the aurantias, they just hang out exactly where they are, slowly genociding the mosquito and gnat and wasp populations for you where you can walk up and look at how pretty they are without worry.

Well, except worrying about them falling and busting their abdomen on the porch.

>>159835000
>botechecked

What is the difference between legacy and sdl downloads?

>>159840894
I enjoy watching jumping spiders whenever they wander into my room. I also have a orb weaver outside my window that makes excellent webs. Too bad winter is coming.

>>159841779
You can totally keep jumping spiders as pets, they're rad as fuck. All you need is a small terrarium. Feed them crickets, web building spiders, etc. They can live for like 8 months.

>>159838265
>>159839214
>How do you ACCIDENTALLY beat someone to death?

Dorf Fort

Also:
>I killed someone. Will people be upset about that?
>It's actually not a stupid question in context.

>>159843345
Especially since the answer is "Depends"

>>159843536
"Who, Urist McPoorfucker? Nah fuck that guy. It was inevitable."

I'm trying to figure out the dfhack deteriorate corpses. but when I try to enable it it says not loaded and when I tried load it said it did not exist whats up? any clues?

>>159841779
Yeah, I always worry because we don't get enough up here for them to eat, hell I worry about the little spitting spiders up in the corner, but I leave them because they eat recluses. Truly the bro-est of spiderbros.

What weapons can be used with shields? Is it all of them, I thought it was but recently killing an alligator fb one if my legendary hammerdwarves exclusively bashed the alligator with his shield. How do I stop this?

My dwarves this time are fucking pussys. A significant amount of them are horrified by death and so when a few goblins dare attack me everyone ends up feeling bad. In another fort of mine I had to deal with 100 plus goblin invasion twice a year, and most of them feel nothing as they should.

>>159847539
He wasn't issued a maul or something was he? Might have been too small to use it.

It seems to me that the renaming interface for taverns (but not temples or libraries) might be broken. Specifically, asking for a random name for a tavern just gives a completely random name, whereas when you create a tavern, temple, or library, or ask for a random name when renaming a temple or library it seems to restrict itself to a certain list of words which are deemed appropriate to the subject.

I cannot into bugtracker, so does anyone know if this is a recognized bug?

>>159848485
>I cannot into bugtracker
How is that even possible? The basic functionality of a search field for filtering by key words is so simple and ubiquitous a feature on the internet that I can't imagine anyone who could actually find the bug tracker would be unable to use it.

>>159848456
No he wasn't. He had a sliver war hammer but decided his bronze shield was better to kill a poisonous alligator with

Who's betting on the next update being this month?

>>159849327
Dem dorfs are weird mayn.

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hi /vg/,

I'm new to DF and I was hoping you could give me some advice, I got my first werecreature earlier today, it was a wereloris so I thought it wasn't a big deal, about 20 minutes later I got an alert saying it had killed one of my hunters and smeared his entrails across the area, it disappeared after that and I didn't have any trouble for a while, and then I got a notification saying my fishmonger is missing,

what's a good way to deal with a werebeast early on before you've got a decent military?

>>159850076
Get a decent military early.

It really doesn't take much. Just a slap a barracks near your entrance, make a wood shield and set a single axedwarf to train at the barracks. A single military dwarf can deal with the majority of early threats even without proper equipment.

>>159850361

thanks anon, but what should I do if he gets bitten by it?

>>159851453
Toss him in a pit, get a new military dwarf.

Or build walls around him. He'll never die, essentially giving you an immortal fortress.

>>159851580

that's pretty metal,

shame it had to be a loris of all potential werebeasts

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I've posted silly climbing antics from my dwarves before. It's a pretty constant thing in my fort. But somehow they keep coming up with ways to surprise me.
This is Tulon Lertethonul, expert planter. She was on her way to carry a gem from a recent dig site, pictured here to the right, when the floor was dug out from under her. She grabbed onto a pillar and announced her predicament with a dangerous terrain cancellation message. Business as usual, I've seen this a million times. Often when this happens dwarves will choose a ridiculous climbing path to reach an illogical location. Really, anytime it's possible for them to do so. This dwarf, though, literally jumped across a floor that she could have just walked onto in order to reach the pillar she's currently climbing up. The floor is one z below her, and she could climb back down to it at any point. She is, instead, climbing up into my faux support structure to strand herself somewhere that I'll have to build yet another rescue scaffold.
Fuckin dwarves.

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>>159851853
Cropping fail, repaired.

>>159851959
Is Bran I of A Game of Thrones?

Can vampires create more vampires voluntarily yet?

What are the pros/cons of assigning dwarves to be scholars or performers for specific locations or for the whole fort?

>>159852904
they don't run around the whole fort

while not a problem on small forts, if you have a multi-layer one your dorfs will spend the majority of their time commuting

>>159839214
In real life this happens often with people getting knocked down and hitting their head on shit etc.

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I have somehow managed to cage an owl out of sheer luck. What should I do with it other than butcher it?

>>159852904
You can only assign them to specific locations.
Performers are pretty much like any other dwarf. They'll do any jobs they're assigned labors for like any other dwarf. The only difference is their profession will always say performer, and when they're idle they'll sometimes serve drinks to other idle dwarves (which is supposed to be the tabern keepee's job, but performers do it too). They're not any more likely to perform than other idle dwarves in your tavern. Most of mine watch performances more often than they participate in them.
Scholars spend a lot of time with purple ponder or discuss jobs that can't be interrupted by other work. So don't give them important duties (research hospital was a mistake). They'll occasionally stop long enough to do other work in your fort, but they're the least reliable dwarves you'll have. They take a long time to actually produce books, and those books don't do very much. You'll have some dwarves with a need for abstract thought, and those dwarves will be made happy by reading, so it's useful to have a few on hand. Scholars who study, ponder or discuss topics related to medical skills or mechanics will train those skills as well, but it's slow. It's enough to at least keep the skills from rusting, though. Outside of that libraries are just for fun and flavor.

>>159853113
What I was trying to ask is what the difference is between assigning someone to be a scholar at a library and assigning someone to be a scholar for the whole fort. Sorry I didn't word it well the first time.

>>159852317
No but if you dump a vamp's corpse in the well of your fort you can vampirize your entire settlement when they drink the tainted blood.

When I can do this in adventure mode to random settlements I'm gonna cum buckets.

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I...what. Guys I think I have a wizard.

>>159854904
I guess I should provide backstory. Ranger goes into a fey mood and claims a workshop. He grabs two logs and a gem. He proceeds to wave his hands over the materials like the Peanuts gang trying to make a christmas tree and presto he creates an instrument that requires metal, ceramic, and 252 STONE PIPES! with just those pieces of wood.

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>goblin scholars

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>>159852904
>>159853113
>>159854096
>>159854125
Ok, since nobody seems to know much about the subject beyond the obvious I decided to test things out a bit. Fortresswide scholars and library specific scholars don't appear to behave significantly differently, at least if you only have one library. In either case they can be assigned and de-assigned freely with no obvious side effects, though the fortresswide scholars require going through the locations screen. Also, I tried assigning a bunch of dwarves to be scholars, and they just kept doing what they had been like nothing had happened, then I assigned one who was hanging out in the library to be a scholar and that one immediately sat down and wrote a book about the fortress, then started pondering historical causation. Eventually the other scholars filtered into the library and started pondering and discussing various things.

I must have over a thousand hours on this game and I still can't get my fucking militia to train properly.

>>159855749
You might be retarded.
[optionally] make uniform -> make squad + assign dwarves to squad -> place barracks, assign squad to train in barracks -> set squad to active alert
Bam. They'll now train until you tell them to stop.

>>159856007
You must be retarded. Because that's obviously exactly what I did and they still aren't training. Why are you so retarded.

>>159855661
Oh, and one more thing:
If all your locations are set to citizens only, the poor liason gets left out among the animals.

>>159856084
Calm down bro, it was just a prank.
You might want to double check, because there's no reason that wouldn't work. You sure they're not set to inactive on the alerts screen? You sure they're set to train in the barracks? You sure you didn't mess with anything in the schedules screen?

>>159855749
For me it always takes a fucking long time for them to even git gud.

>>159854509
That's so evil I love it.

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>>159856463

>>159855078
Nice.

>>159852317
>>159854509
Just gotta pass out mugs of vampire blood, works great!

>>159856084
>>159856303
The sad thing is he probably won't even apologize when he realized that he fucked up

>>159857201
Who cares? If it helped then now they know.

>>159821858
how big colonies do you get before the lag sets in? With my current rig I go up to 120 and any more than that just slows the game. Would like to manage colonies of multiple hundreds.

>>159857029
>Just gotta pass out mugs of vampire blood, works great!

Can I do this in adventure mode?

>>159857385
Oh my god yes it works

Video related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kyG5F98iZE

I will be Johnny Appleseed but spread a new dark age across the world instead of fruit.

>>159857628
Should someone write this up on the wiki. This sounds like an important discovery.

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>>159857784
They'll drink anything in a mug, including a cage which they have been dfhacked into, but you can't get drunk because the game fucking crashes instantly.

>>159857373
I haven't played DF properly in months but iirc 100 dwarves is fine, might go down to 80fps depending on animals/other factors.
I know I don't get sub 30fps unless I'm over 200 or doing something like burning down a forest.

Though depending on the fort even 10fps is manageable, just depends on how many things you have going on.

>>159858121
so you really can just turn some innocent village into a nightmarish place full of bloodsucking fiends. Shit, I'm almost ready to put a hold on my labyrinth to just go and do this.

>>159851959
does the vanilla game nake the walls go even in 45 degree angles, or did you use a graphical pack/mod?

>>159858529
It's just a tileset that replaces the corner tiles.

Man fuck this pos game. I cant keep a fps under above 50 no matter what I do. and my comp isnt a pos. you all are. Im deleting every savegame and trace of this pos game from my comp. Fuck your laggy inefficient game. It's 2o16 no game should run like this. Fuck each and every one of you.

@159859712
0% quality bait

>>159859712
>under above 50
What are you trying to say?

>>159859575
link?

>>159859712
Thank you for your input. We will be sure to report this to the mostly one man dev team who has been slaving away at this game for over a decade now out of love.

how well does the world activation work? if u start a fort in a 5 yr old world and by playing go up to 125 will the world have had event just as if I had generated that history? or is it still not so good?

>>159859940
Not my tileset. There's a bunch of them on the wiki, though.
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Tileset_repository

>>159858269
Oh yeah you totally can if you get vamp blood and mugs to pass around.

>>159860367
Never played the same world for that long so I couldn't tell you. As far as I know things do continue to happen like towns being taken over and wars but, a lot of other things stop taking place.

How the hell do you people find vampires anymore? Run around accusing everyone?

I never get the quest in the newest version

>>159860801
Get lucky. Older worlds have a better chance of having them.

>>159860801
>>159860820
Same guy. Alternatively you could go into Legends and do a little investigating to try an figure out where a population of vampires might be in the world then make an adventurer and spawn as close as possible.

>>159860820
>>159861286
Thanks for the tips. Will it help if I increase the number of vampire curses in world gen or does it not matter?

>>159861380
Not sure, but I think that really doesn't matter. It really depends if people in the world are dicks or not and go around toppling statues to piss off gods.

>>159861475
oh damn, forgot to mention if you are actively trying to get the curse just head to your nearest city temple and topple a statue; you will either become a werecreature or a vampire, RNG decides.

>>159861554
Holy shit really

This is huge, I can't believe I never thought of that. You're a champ

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>>159861749
anytime

>>159859712
>pos
>point of sale
you know df is free, right?

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Why haven't you made your own tileset yet, anon?

>>159867302
Stupid question.
ASCIIfags stick to their elitist ASCII.
Tileset newbs use tilesets because they lack the intelligence to comprehend the base ASCII graphics so it's alright to assume they don't have the mental capabilities to make their own tilesets either.

>>159867450
And yet there are people that create their own somewhere in between. Are they perhaps the true master race?

>>159867541
The real master race is not composed of ascii fags, or tileset fags, or even dwarf fortress fags. The true master race is rimworld players.

>>159867450
ASCII is a tileset you nob.

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>>159868179
I suppose? I have no ill will against Tynan or Rimworld.

We can all agree, though, that the lowest form of life are youngsters who compare Rimworld to DF.

>>159867541
They are a dying breed.
Today's graphical tilesets and color schemes were made in the old times. Nowadays it's easier to cycle through the hundreds of options than to create your own.

>>159867541
>Are they perhaps the true master race?
Have you seen the tilesets out there? Consider that every tileset for DF that you've seen other than the curses tilesets included with the game were made by players. Now consider how bad most of those tilesets are.

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What the actual fuck. Mastershit players actually gave Meph more than a thousand dollars after he got (rightfully) robbed.

>>159869060
euros* but whatever, the point withstands

daily reminder that there is no such thing as a "moderate" mastershit player

>>159869060
>after he got (rightfully) robbed.

Would you mind quickly summing this story up for me?

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>>159869154
>meph uses mastershit donation money (as well as sponsor money from major corporations) to go on expensive biking trips all over the world
>goes to lebanon
>muslim host family kicks him out, so he has to sleep by the roadside
>gets robbed, as well as thoroughly emasculated, by a lebanese soldier
>comes crawling back to his fans and asks them to compensate him for the things he lost
that's about it

>>159869140
what about those who use his mod and never donate

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>>159869464
holy shit

thanks for the info

>>159869060
a thousand euros raised by fifty people in 29 months is really not that much.

>>159869464
>be dumbass tourist
>travel to shithole
>do dumb things
>get robbed/raped/killed

It's always the same fucking story. These people never learn.

>>159840663
desu, Toady kinda confirmed inhaled and edible drugs in the game's future
Mainly tobacco and mushrooms are in the goal list, we speculated about their effects some threads ago

>>159869140
>>159869726
Yeah I hate him but I play the mod. I bet he gets more buttmad over the fact that people play it without donating to him than anything.

>>159872146
I wonder if I actually makes these by himself in paint, or if he cheats by using sketchup or something. The last one he posted had some skewed perspectives which suggested that he actually made it himself.

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>>159835365

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>>159835365

Can someone refer me to a comfy tileset for the latest update? I am a bit tired of the default atm.

>>159871189
>[current year]
>people don't even try to learn a bit of the language of where they going and try to look MUCH LESS like rosy pale anglos
That solves like 3/4 of your problems, I can spot a brit from miles. Americans even more. Also, levantine and south caucasus soldiers are assholes and will do that shit because they know you are powerless and can't speak their language for shit so either don't go there or take measures.

>>159880330
Apparently when Meph went to the police to report it, they all insisted that Syrian refugees did it, and refused to file a report.

>>159880229
There's an anon here who made a tileset that's literally called comfy. It's not square, and thus objectively inferior, but it does have kind of a 16bit jrpg feel to it, so I guess it deserves the name. He'll probably be along to post his tileset (as well as incorrect opinions regarding the virtues of rectangles) at some point today.

>>159880681
thank you, I will look forward to that while I prepare some potatos for frying for the ineviatable salt,

>>159880583
>not unzipping your pants showing him your massive tool and taking him down while he is paralyzed by your masculinity

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Anyone else disappointed that music didn't play a larger role in the 0.42 releases? We had all these people expecting macross, but the music turned out to be kinda detached from everything except the temples and taverns.

>>159869060
>>159869464
Why the fuck would you go to a country when you can't speak it's native language?

>>159882834
And what was on the hard drive?

>>159880823
Yeah, they get quite defensive.
They've been proven to have deformed, rectangular brains also.
It's a good tileset

>>159881704
The important thing is that the framework for music has been established. 90% of the content Toady is going to put out for the next decade will be broad stroke, framework releases.
At some point he'll tie music in to more events, or maybe allow us to do it ourselves.

>>159882979
Apparently all the work he had done for updating masterwork to .40. Pretty convenient, huh?
So masterwork players not only pay for his vacation lifestyle, they paid for it while he didn't update his mod for 2 years.

>>159884962
That really is convenient. Why the fuck would he bring that on his dumb vacation

>>159884962
I only got into masterwork halfway into 2016 so I'm glad I didn't have to wait so long. Either way he ain't getting a cent from me.

>>159883639
I'm just waiting for someone to step up and start making modified square versions.

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Hi /vg/, newfag here again,

does an alert saying a dwarf has been missing for a week generally mean he's dead?

>>159885802
It always means they're dead. Someone has to see the corpse before they show up as dead, though.

>>159885938

alright, thanks anon, time to make a coffin

so my sword squad of 5 got decimated by a werebull, who my citizens beat to death once he turned human, then a cave croc ate one of my boys. Ive made caskets and I have burial enabled on several dwarves but all the bodies are still just laying around what gives?

also what do i do with the caskets once theyre filled

>>159886496
You have to place coffins and mark them for burial before they'll get used. [b]->[n] then slap it where you want. Then [q]->[b] to enable it to be used for burial.

>>159886496
You have to build the caskets like any other piece of furniture.

>>159885802
We're not /vg/, we're /dfg/

>>159886105
Keep in mind that if you can't find the corpse or your dwarves can't get to it that you can just engrave a slab for the same result.

>>159880229
>>159880681
I remembered that he posted a dffd link for his tileset somewhere in the last couple of threads, so I hunted it down for you.
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12544

>>159886874
>>159886865
oh god lads theres a cloud of miasma over 4 floors, I instructed them to build a wall to keep it ocntained but they ran through it to get to the stone

jesus

>>159887670
Not a big deal. All that miasma is is a smelly room, really. They don't like walking through it, but it's no danger.

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>colorset changes black to dark maroon
why do people do this?

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Rate my communist block

>>159888072
asymmetrical/10

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Is this normal? this was year 1 my first invasion. luckily i have plenty of plump helmets to sustain my now subterranean dwarves.

>>159888216
Yeah, if you're embarked near a tower.

>>159887670
Stop building the wall, let your dwarves bury the dead. Once the remains are entombed they'll stop generating miasma.

>>159887918
I cant find the corpse, theres a pile of vom but I dont know what to do about it. blood everywhere, does that rot?

>>159888556
i am but i didnt expect around 50 corpses. that seems a little bit much

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>>159888072
>all those misalignments
>awkwardly shaped and placed staircase
>shitty (obviously square, surprise surprise) tileset

>>159888576
Only body parts, corpses and rotten food generate miasma. All miasma is is an indicator of rot.

It'll give your dwarves a bad thought, but bad thoughts are completely negligible on their own. Theoretically, it could be the straw that breaks the camels back if the dwarves have been in just abject misery for a few years, but that never happens unless you're actively trying to make it happen.

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>>159889036
>>159888576
>tfw miasa forcibly feels your tunnels

>>159888941
whats the hate for square tilesets? what would you recommend frogposter?
>inb4 use ASCII
fuck that it hurts my eyes

>>159889256
It's just autists are so afraid of change they will shill vanilla even when faced with objectively superior options.

>>159888576
It doesn't matter if you can find the corpses, your dwarves can. They can omnisciently path to anything that is pathable without having ever seen.

>>159889256
Many ASCII sets are square. One is even included with the vanilla game.

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>>159867302
>tfw you're actually tilesetanon

>>159890119
Those are inferior. If you must be a squarefag, here. I think I have one with regular walls instead of these raving maniac style ones like mountainanon uses.

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>>159890437

>>159890437
I am mountainanon. I was just stating the case that drawing a distinction between square tilesets and ASCII tilesets was incorrect.

>>159891463
i used the default tileset in the lazy newb before i fucked up my files but i rather like ascii, its not so bad.

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>>159816583
>>159816752

Thanks!

>>159892561
Have you ever looked at marcel dzama's drawings?

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>>159894772
Lord, I love it! (I don't remember which picture that dwarf came from.)

>>159894358
Never heard of him until now, pretty whacky stuff. I like the creature images.

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>>159892561
>stalker
>dwarf stalker
>modern dwarf
>modern dwarf stalker
>medieval stalker
>medieval medieval
>medieval space
>medieval dwarven space
This is going too far
>>159894772
Make one of "10 jokes that went too far"

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>>159895578
and don't forget medieval space 1920.

is there ANY way, any at all, to stop mining jobs being canceled because they are mining a damp or warm area? i'm not talking about the game pausing and centering on the canceled mining designation. i'm talking about the mining designation itself being canceled, so you have to continuously reapply it. i'm digging above the magma sea and it is beyond annoying, since i have to designate each tile over and over again, individually. is there any way around this?

>>159898343
There's a dfhack plugin that will automatically redesignate them for you, but I don't remember what was called.

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>>159888072
>that massive vault to the east
>only one level tall
>no support columns
No
>2x6 staircase that fills the hallway
NO NO NO

Fix your shit, anon. Fix your shit right now.

>>159898343
Workaround: Make your magma forge room two levels tall, and dig it by designating pits on the level above.

>>159899124
hmm, that would be pretty much what i was looking for, but i can't find it at all. is it a very new plugin? i can't find anything close to it.

>>159899728
yeah, i already have like 200 magma forges, this is more about doing mean things to the magma sea, not sure about the specifics yet. but it's occurs often enough, and it can get absurdly time-intensive.

>>159899124
you're not confusing it with autounsuspend, which automatically unsuspends suspended constructions, right? i've grepped dfhack ls a bunch of times, and even looked through it manually, but i can't find anything at all related to damp/warm designations getting canceled.

>>159899334
>no support columns
You do realise that supports haven't been needed since forever, right? As long as a floor or wall connects to another floor or wall in one of the cardinal directions, it will be safe.

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>>159886496
A werebull killed half of one of your soldiers? Oh no!

>>159901419
No, it's old. It was in the first version of dfhack I ever used back in 34.11.

>>159901640
I'm around 90% sure I'm not confused. I would've rated it higher before reading the two posts I'm responding to, but now I'm considering the possibility that I made it all up.

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Any ideas on why i cant train this wolf for war?

>>159901419
>>159901640
>>159906208
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=21892.0
I assume this is what's being referred to, though it's not dfhack and it apparently doesn't work for the latest version of DF.

>>159906245
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Wolf
>not hunting/war trainable

Also, if you're on windows open your start menu and search for "snipping tool". You can use that to quickly and easily take screenshots rather than taking photos of your screen like a chump.

>>159888072
You should stick a community tavern and a few citizen-only temples in there. Make it an actual city center instead of just a place where shitloads of dorfs sleep.

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>>159907141
I've been using Gyazo for all this time...

>>159901942
Oh, I know. I just like the aesthetics.

>>159907141
Go into the raws for your save and add [TRAINABLE] to wolves. Solved.

>something keeps happening to my milk/cheese.
>it keeps turning into globs
I swear I got to it in time this time

also, training axes are no longer able to cut down trees?

wtf? muh 0 point embarks...

>>159911218
I'd like to see you cut down a tree with a wooden axe.

>>159886496
You have to set your Refuse orders to "gather from outside"

press o, then r, then something something.

>>159911375
Dorfs do the impossible all of the time.

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/dfg/ is severely lacking in any material. I say we have a community event to get the creativity flowing and keep us from perishing as a general.
I say we have a tournament similar to the one held on r/dwarffortress a while back seen here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/4im1ek/the_rdwarffortress_gladiator_tournament_i_round_1/
The rules I think could be adapted for us easily enough and as long as whips and scourges are banned from entry I think it would be fun.

otherwise I guess we could have a succession game.

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>>159911375
it doesn't so much bother me that I can't make wooden axes so much as I can't make stone axes (outside of adventure mode)

still though, muh survivalist meme

>>159911581
Or we could just keep arguing about tilesets.

>>159911581
I'd be interested on doing a succession game, so long as we make it a general rule not to aim for efficiency and to not chimp out when the fort isn't 100% efficient. Efficient forts are boring forts.

>>159911581
I'd be down for either of these. Just lost my job so I've got plenty of free time on my hands.

>>159911802
I agree. I'm currently at work right now so I'll wait until I'm off to see what the rest of /dfg/ has to say, if any respond at all.

>>159911581
Or, Elkposter can finish his quest already.
REEEEEEE

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recently offered traders 991 profit deal and they turned it down and left early feels bad man

>>159911581
This was a surprisingly interesting read. All glory to Dat Boi the frogman.

Some of those matchups were fairly stupid though. I hope it was RNG and not just lack of forethought.

>>159912080
why not zoidburg?
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=161410.0

>>159912937
RNG is unforgiving. The rest of the tournament is good as well, I just hope it would be easy to adapt for here.

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>>159891463
Well, I apologize for letting my bigotry against squarefags out at ya, your fort is very cool, just a shame that it's not hip to be square.

>>159892561
The cat chestburster accompanied by "OOOHH" is the best thing I've seen since Hulk Hogan bodyslammed Andre the Giant.

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>>159913231
He looks so happy.

>>159911581
>>159911802
>>159912080
Someone proposes a succession game in /dfg/ every few months. Anonymity/lack of interest kills it everytime. The last time it happened the succession fort actually started, went for 3 turns, and then was promptly forgotten when anon with the turn never came back. The fact that it had even a single turn put it further than any previous attempt, so maybe it's possible.

>>159911592
>dismantle your wagon
>build butcher shop, crafts workshop, bowyer's workshop
>butcher your horses
>make bone crossbow, bone bolts
>hunt wild animals for more bones
>make bone crafts
>before caravan arrives, tear all workshops down and build the trade depot
>trade bone crafts for picks and axes

Alternatively
>forage like crazy
>trade nuts and berries for picks and axes

If you really want stone axes, though, you could mod the raws. That's what they're for.

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>>159913519
zoidburg haz a fort you can play with.
why not zoidburg? eh? eh?

There is only one person waiting in line...

>>159915261
I could also mod the raws to make free adamantium, doesn't mean I want to.

>>159916048
I still don't want to play your fort. I have my own fort. If I wanted to play someone else's I could go onto bay12 literally anytime and find a succession fort that doesn't have anyone to play it.

Any tips on slaying a dragon?

>>159915261
honestly, if I were to add a mod, it would be something simple

>add cave bamboo that you can burn for charcoal
>Make a workshop that can make 50 blocks from 10 stone or wood
>Make a tool workshop that lets you unwrap "palettes" of 50 blocks by carrying one large palette object
>Add the option to color the blocks at a dyers workshop by adding pigment
>Let you make an anvil out of iron at a smelter
>Let you make 4 glass, wood or ceramic blocks instead of just 1.

>>159916606
Then why are you posting/bitching about succession forts if you don't want to play one?

>>159916827
I'm not bitching about anything. I'm helpfully informing other players about the previous ill-fated attempts at /dfg/ succession forts. Forewarned is forearmed and all that.

Also, it's adamantine, not adamantium.

>>159917046
Suck it, bitch.
You're neither being helpful or useful in any way. Your just being a downer. Staunch your flow and get with the program.

>>159912409
The amount of profit you offer doesn't mean anything, it's relative to how much you're trying to trade for. They want a high percentage profit.

>>159917226
Are you angry that I'm trying to help you hide your new again? Or just that no one wants to play your fort? Lashing out like an angry child isn't going to convince anyone to sign up for your fort.

What is your battle theme in adventure mode"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apaJ3A56XbM

>>159917758
mode?*

>>159917758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWtnK_YeA4Q

>>159917758
This whole damn soundtrack, but this is my favorite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2LF2t4YlBI&list=PL85DC373E4DF2BC52&index=8

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OK, just got back from work. So the general consensus and from what >>159913519
said there is not much interest in a succession game. That's fine. I really do want to just try and do the tournament though. I will look through the rules that went along with the r/dwarffortress tournament post and adapt them for us. I will give it a couple of days after I announce it to allow submissions. Against my better judgement (unless you guys want to be namefags) I will allow anonymous submissions and fighter updates.

again the link to the other tournament I keep talking about which is an excellent read is
https://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/4im1ek/the_rdwarffortress_gladiator_tournament_i_round_1/

and the rules for it are found here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/190rZjRckNkDQjU8KRapCei76I_BWQc52Q09ud6TENRY/edit#gid=1311675782

As for the guy who keeps posting about his succession game on bay12forums. I appreciate the offer but, I want to do this for the benefit of /dfg/. You guys may be assholes from time to time but, you guys are alright.

If anyone wants to help me adapt the rules that would be much appreciated and any ideas to throw in would be swell.

>>159918843
I didn't mean to suggest that you shouldn't try a succession. I think whoever organizes it will need to take one for the team and wear a trip (you're halfway there) for succession fort related posts, and post an email for other anons to sign up at. And then if anon fucks off with the save and never returns, you have an email to reach him at and a list of nexts to fall back on. Might not get enough takers to make a serious go at it, but if you're comfortable wearing a trip and posting an email you could try.

>>159920281
I was thinking about that. I mean yeah that's what I'm worried about, people losing interest.

We have the traffic for it even for a small 5-7 man succession fort. I just worry about flakes. With the tournament though there isnt a long term commitment and everyone including lurkers could submit a fighter easily. Anyone that doesn't update their fighters if they advance just gets counted as no contest in my book and the tournament goes on, simple as that.

>>159920950
Fair enough.

So would participants need to trip to post/update their gladiators? Or email? Just use the honor system? I would submit a gladiator if either of the latter two were the case, but I don't want to trip.

Are you volunteering to arenamaster?

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>>159921296
Yes I am. I'm probably going to set up a trip soon. As well as set up an email, that will probably be the best way to go about getting submissions. I need to update everything which isn't much since the rules i'm borrowing are really good as is, just need to remove whips and scourges from the equipment list and set it up so it doesn't read r/dwarffortress yada yada.

>>159917758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAN_nrkUx2s

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>>159921654
I'm down.

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>>159917758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owjyLTx1M-M

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>>159917758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28Um3jmQHhI

>>159927318
>Yield? Nah son, I think you must sucketh mine bawlss.