/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

>start 4x game with grand ideas of forming a wonderful empire
>20 minutes hit by crushing wave of apathy and exit to windows

I don't know any more

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Fuck diplomacy.

DUDE PLANTS LMAO

Stellaris

>mining network 2
>90 minerals for 1 mineral return

hmm

>>159685314
What a fantastic OP picture

Reminder that your parents love you.

>>159686140
>being this poor

>>159686249
They've got a funny way of showing it.

It doesn't matter whether I have 90 minerals or 90,000 minerals, it still takes a total of 8 years (including construction time) to get any return on my investment

>>159686249
My mom literally called me a hitler youth, gustapo nazi little shit because I asked her to not feed my dog cheese because the thing gets the runs. I think something is mentally wrong with her.

Had some xenophile FE awaken, they've taken somebody next door over and everyone else is so threatened by them they've now all got mutual defence pacts.
So in threatening to impose a galactic peace they've ironically scared everyone into ganging up together.

>>159686501
In response to
>>159686325

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>be relaxing in my space empire researching and chill
>suddenly fanatical purifiers declare war on me
>defend myself and protect my galaxy by wiping them out
>somehow I'M the bad guy

>>159686535
I'm sure there are two sides to this story. Are you, in fact, a Hitler youth, Gestapo Nazi little shit?

>>159686535
>I think something is mentally wrong with her.
If this is true, you owe it to her to get her some help.

my game crashes when the next turn is about to begin. (turn 326)
I'm almost done with domination on diety. What do?

>>159686249
my parents are dead

>>159686753
kek, I wish I was because then those words wouldn't be so burned into me and as to how a mother can be like that.

>>159686791
I am legit scared of her and I have no idea where to start, my dad is a mess because of her being like that to him for at least half a decade now. He thinks something along the lines of; sometimes you have to just be nice even if someone is really nasty to you (his words).

I mostly play games to escape.

>>159686501
Faster than that if you have any modifier to mineral production or build cost.

Haven't played that many games, but most seem to last longer than 8 years.

In Eu4 I've built buildings that take 83 years to return my investment.

>>159686140
>Pays for itself after 45 months.
>If you don't build it you will eventually be outproduced by your enemy

Gotta spend money to make money senpai.

>>159686554

Sounds like exactly as planned to me.

>>159687307
Yes you've played Stellaris games that last more than 8 years, funny

It's an option that should only be considered if you have literally no other possible source of investment, unless you happen to have some great mineral/building modifiers

>>159686701
You could have just liberated them, creating an empire who's leaders are friendly to you, but who's pops will constantly be unhappy, thus preventing them from ever being a threat to anybody.

how the fuck do I compose a fleet?
I keep engaging fleets with lower combat power and losing

>build cruisers
>?????
>win

>>159687913
In Civ? You move ships next to each other, click on one and the option to make fleets should appear

>>159687834
>It's an option that should only be considered if you have literally no other possible source of investment, unless you happen to have some great mineral/building modifiers
It's funny how wrong you are

>>159688742
And yet you have nothing to say

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why

>Stellarite Devourer directly adjacent to my home

NICE

>>159687093
Um.

Well, I hope it all works out for you anon.

>>159688979
Oh I've said a few things.
You're dumb though so those things didn't even register for you.

You should look into the stanford marshmellow experiment.
Then get one of your smarter friends to explain it to you.
Then get one of your friends to explain it to you.*

>>159687913
I go with like,

>Battleships with kinetic artillery and amoebas
>2 cruisers with torpedoes and amoebas for every battleship
>2 destroyers with kinetic artillery and flack artillery for every cruiser
>2 torpedo corvettes for every destroyer

No idea if this is optimum, but I haven't suffered any major embarrassments with it. It's always been able to win against fleets with equal or lesser combat power.

kinetic weapons seem to be the best all around weapon at any tech level in 1.3, but strike craft and torpedoes are situatonaly better. The fact that hangars are now tied to point defenses means that there isn't much reason not to bring them along as they will protect your capitals while also raping enemies who forgot point defenses of their own.

If I don't have lategame tech I improvise, interceptor corvettes and broadside cruisers if torpedoes aren't available yet, and if amoebas aren't available then my cruisers will carry fighters or scouts, and my battleships will carry an equal mix of fighters and bombers for a 3:1 ratio overall.

Sometimes I give my battleships spinal weapons, but overall they have a lower DPS than the pair of Kinetic artillery which you can put in the same slot. The only advantage is 20km extra range, which isn't much of an issue when you already have so many.


This is just my experience though. If anybody has a better build I'd like to hear it. I'm actually wondering if a combination of cruisers with artillery+hangars and corvettes with torpedoes would be simpler.

>civ6
>build one wonder
>CHINA HAS DENOUNCED YOU
>get a few compulsory delegates here and there
>use em on different city states
>GREECE HAS DENOUNCED YOU
>GERMANY HAS DENOUNCED YOU
>find sparta and cleopatra
>BOTH DENOUNCED YOU FOR BEING WEAK
>bump into ghandi and roosevelt
>GHANDI AND ROOSEVELT HAVE DECLARED WAR ON YOU
>have two luxuries literally forever
>MONTEZUMA HAS DENOUNCED YOU
Am I doing something wrong? Literally everyone hates me all the time. How do I get people to like me?

I have like seven empires that are various flavors of humans, and then a Qt3.14 moth dictatorship.

How does one become creative?

>>159689634
Your mistake was playing a civilization game and expecting AI that wasn't an asshole.

>>159689506
You're not taking opportunity cost into account, you will get a better return elsewhere

You should calm down

>>159689745
I never expected it to be great, but even in V the Civs tend to form little makeshift "factions" and ostracize warmongers
In 6 even if you never ever go to war everyone always hates you forever.

I've had games on Civ V where I've been doing badly and the AI have all buddied up with me, for not causing trouble. On VI they just don't give a shit.

>>159685564
underrated post.

Does anybody have a mod for Stellaris that raises the Leader cap? The only ones I can find on non-workshop are out of date and make the game crash. Same with editing defines.

>>159690887
are you using notepad++ to edit

What traits/ethics/government would the Fremen from Dune have (post first book, pre second book)?

>>159691025
Spiritual and collectivist

>>159691025
Divine Mandate

Theocratic Republic or Direct Democracy?

-10% food consumption seems more powerful than +15% leader experience gain

>>159691025
Thrifty or Industrious maybe, Communal, Sedentary
Collectivist-Spiritualist-Militarist
Divine Mandate

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>some fuck delete his flag mod from the workshop
>has to remake all the flags of my 15 custom empires

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>>159685314
Alright so I've been looking on the wiki and on the steam forums but no one's specifically mentioned this, just empire happiness as a whole but in Age of Wonders 3 is there a way to increase racial happiness other than just migrating cities? I want to switch a few cities around but that'd get me a net loss on racial happiness.

Will Terror bombing kill all of the pops on a planet given enough time?

>>159686192
I was lazy.

Should've put a civ6 image in front of the stellaris and civ5 images.

>>159691968
It's been a while since I played but if I recall correctly you could terraform or change the weather of hexes, so the more liked hexes around a city the lower the disliked terrain penalty gets.

>>159691864
Which mod is that? Maybe there's some backups.

>25 tile planet with affinity for my people
>find Cornucopia anomaly on it

I mean it's cool and all, but what's the point if I can't export food?

>>159693629
You can export people

>>159693629
Make it export people.
Make it the base for all your future colonization efforts.

>>159693005
That will increase the happiness of just the city, the latest dlc they put out adds racial governance which is how fondly each of the races feel about you, including independents and enemies. You get more governance points if you have a city of one of the races and it is multiplied by how much they love/hate you as an entire race.

>>159689634
>How do I get people to like me?
You don't.

If you have to, give them gold (not gpt), use same government type, fill out their agendas. send a trade route, suck their dick. You'll still get denounced 2 turns after meeting someone if they're on previous generation of governments, though. Might as well not bother and just see about having one butt buddy you constantly renew friendship with, it's usually enough.

>>159693849
That sounds awful.

>>159694056
It would be if you didn't get dank level ups with huge bonuses from it. If you focus on just one race it's piss easy to get them to cheerful and have all your units get an ezpz +200 morale as well as a bunch of economy and unit upgrades. With 2 it's still sort of easy but you'll basically be splitting the goodwill and with any more you basically can't boost it since you'll have so few cities that won't hurt the relations you need if you migrate.

>>159694328
Is the migration happiness permanent?

>>159686249
I've legit never seen my mom alive and dad died 16 years ago when I was 5

>>159694798
All racial happiness is permanent, so in my image you can see migrating gives +50 to whoever your migrating but -100 to whoever you kicked out. To get it back to neutral I'd have to migrate Tigrans into 2 cities.

>/civ4xg/ - blogs and socializing

>>159695632
Just roll with it desu

>>159695576
That's rough.
Haven't played aow3 since vanilla.

I guess you could sacrifice a few races to get your happiness up, but switching around doesn't seem viable.

Why does Trajan look like such a fuccboi?

Has Firaxis said anything about a patch yet? I really want to play but the AI really puts me off, last game I played Arabia was spamming settlers at me to get a couple horses between two of my cities. It was retarded.

>>159693752
>>159693690
Since when can you export people? Did Stellaris become a fun game?

>>159695940
Because he doesn't need to compensate for anything. ROME STRONK

Question: Does settling on a resource in CIV6 destroy it? Also, is there a way for the game to remember your game settings? I'm tired of turning off time limits, setting the map to standard, and raising the difficulty every single time.

>>159696478
Settling on a bonus resource (the harvestable type) will erase it and you get no benefit. Settling on a luxury or strategic resource works the same way it did in 5.

>>159696478
>Since when can you export people? Did Stellaris become a fun game?

There's resettlement.
You move people by paying influence.
Then there's migration where they move of their own will.

It's been there since the beginning of the game.

>>159696478
>Since when can you export people? Did Stellaris become a fun game?
You always could. You need resettlement compatible ethos to do it well tho.

What civ in the current base game should get the first extra leader?

The Black Prince leading England. Bring the Longbows.

>>159689634
the ai in civ6 will hate you no matter what
even if they have literally no reason to hate you they will make cities one tile from your border and then tell you to settle further away from them
and then they will decide to declare war on you, mobilize their entire army onto your border, and then declare war "because you had troops on their border"

>>159685602
Why does the city state have a settler?

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>find Rome turn 5
>DUDE WHY HAVEN'T YOU EXPANDED YET I AM GOING TO FROWNY FACE YOU
>steal his settler
>plant it in his face
>it's a different continent so I get a warrior
>plant my own settler nearby
>another free warrior
>buy another settler
>another free warrior
I'm the barbarians now.

>>159698173
captured from another civ

>>159689634
I've found that Teddy is your bro as long as you start on his continent and you don't start shit with other civs on the continent.

Fuck Freddy, though.

>>159696641
>>159696681
And are you still unable to set up trade between your planets?

Peter is the nicest AI desu. I only upset him like 40% of the games I play.

>>159689634
Welcome to Civ VI, I suggest to stop playing until they fix the AI.

Have the core/system things been fixed in Stellaris? They are the only things I really hate about the game.
I am fine with micromanaging 30 planets and last time I played the system manager would refuse to build the planet unique buildings that cost influence like the +% energy or +% minerals things or build space stations at all.

How does occupation work in the late game in Civ VI? It feels like cities remain occupied forever, unless I wipe out the civ that formerly owned it.

>>159698915
I dunno desu. I've had civs start shit with me and then captured one of their cities before they inevitably sue for peace. Even if they hand over the city to you in the peace agreement they still consider it occupation forever.

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>can't rename cities in Civ 6

>>159698867
It's gotten better. And you have much more fune control about what exactly sectors are allowed to do.
However afaik they're still shit at building planet-specific buildings. Though to be fair maybe they're maximin-ing correctly. If the happiness gain doesn't net you enough boosted production to compensate for the opportunity cost of building another mine instead, then there's no point in the happiness building.

>>159700106
Raising happiness reduces the odds of troublesome factions popping up though.

we ded now

>>159700886
> factions
> troublesome
Not in Stellaris m80

Ancient to medieval is the best period of civ 6 and easily better than 5 in my opinion. They just need to lock down everything after that with some fixes and dlc and 6 will be >>>>> 5 in every way.

Not sure why people are shitting on it so hard. It's got some faults but it's not nearly as bad as Civ 5 on release, and definitely no BE.

>>159703895
WIFI LMAO

>>159698685
Yes, I was so excited for this game. Then I won 5 consecutive deity games. Then I tried to get all the achievements. Now I have nothing to do. The only exciting part of the game is the early barbarian rush. Once you get eight cities, victory is trivial.

I know everyone is talking about Civilization VI, but I just started with these kind of games and I can't run very powerful games so I'm stuck with Civilization V, and I've followed the modding thing so the game is balanced and stuff, and I followed the tutorial so I kind of know what I'm doing, but why is there such a jump in difficulty from level 3 to level 4? It's as if I'm playing two different games at that point and I don't like it.

>meet Kongo early game
>he forward settles outside my capital
>he declares a surprise war on me
>his DoW accuses me of treating him poorly

>>159704574
That goes for pretty much every difficulty in Civ V. You'll get used to it after a while

>>159704656
Your fault for not gibbing him dat clay wide boi.

>>159704656
>not giving him KFC and watermelon

>>159704794
I was playing Bara-mesh and I'm yellow.

>>159704656
>not treating him like the kang that he wuz

>>159698606

mods like alpha mod allow you to produce strategic resources that are then consumed on other planets

for instance you can produce bio-pods from biomass on a planet with high food output, and then those pods can be processed to output like 15 food by a special building

can help with fringe colonies

but no, no trading, paradix hates fun

>>159705313
Civilization is as dumb as this, to be honest.
>wheat somewhere
>can't export it, can't move it, can't duplicate
You can explain it by the climate or something, but it's still a little dumb.

>>159705913
I always just think of the wheat or rice resources as being places where wheat or rice grow EXCEPTIONALLY well, not that they can't grow in other places where you plant farms.

>>159706174
Oh. That makes sense, I guess.
I always wondered what the hell they cultivated in these farms if it wasn't wheat or corn or rice.

>>159705913
At least in civ 6 there is trade which makes up for it logically because you can get food from other cities that way.

Stellaris really needs SOME sort of trade before it makes any sense.

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Jesuit Education or Religious Community? I'm going for a science victory but I feel like Jesuit Education is a trap. Once I build a campus in the city then it's a lost benefit basically, where as having two extra pop is always great.

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What the hell? All 3 of these in such close proximity.

>Try to start that Ancients whatever scenario as Rome
>Of course, it would be too easy if you could check the mod and start a new game and have it work, so normal game I guess
>Sandwiched because Gandhi fuckface and meme Kongo
>Suddenly 50 turns in Gandhi pulls a Formal War out of his ass
>Immediately guess he couldn't have gotten it without a formal war because too early and no denouncing, pic related happens after closing his
>Meet one of Egypt's chariots later and peace out with both, they made zero effort to war me
>Barbarians pull Horsemen and Swordsmen out of their ass because Barb scouts are retarded as usual, build up Archers
>Kongo gets pissed because I have a religion I can't spread because he literally nagged me about it TWO TURNS AFTER FOUNDING IT and DOWs me
>Shits out entire carpets of his meme unit which is basically Classical Era Musketmen without the resource requirement
>Still end up deaxing it because the AI is fashionably retarded as usual
>His capital is a fucking jungle and hill wasteland, and encampment bombardments fuck up the only reasonable point of approach. 40 HP bombardments lmao
>Exit to Desktop

I'll probably want to make a mod that unfucks Research unlocks, Civics in general and governments, also I've found out that Religion and Stonehenge are both traps the hard way

>>159706716

>I'm going for a Scientific Victory
>Religion

I hope you're joking anon

Commercial/Campus/Industrial in all cities, prepare three taller cities for the three spaceports

You don't have time to waste for religious districts, who needs faith when you have cold hard cash

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>>159706935

>tfw forget my pic related

>>159706935
Yeah I am only going to build a holy site in my main city, it just triggers my autism to not have my own religion.

>>159707039
I dislike Trajan's model in this game

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>>159698173
Barbs captured from other civ during the first 50 turns, wondered near city state and got capt by them. Tempted to take the city and the settler but rather keep them around for no warmongering penalty from Protectorate Wars (which let me wipe Aztec out of the map) and bonus unit productions.

>>159687093
Kill your mom

You can get away with anything when you're young.

>>159707829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd-QhVO-88U

Skip to 1:32

WOOP WOOOP

>>159707954
You got me

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Figured I should try this at least once

>you can get to renaissance era in 3 techs
>you also skip the entire medieval era
what was meant by this?

>>159708539
wololo

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>playing stellaris as xenophobe and militant
>fallen empire awakens and start dominating everyone and everything, even other FE
>AI cannot defeat them even when they're all united
>I can't unite with anyone because everyone hates me, and I can't destroy the empire by my own

Well, this was a fun run. Maybe I should keep playing until a crisis occurs, but by then it's already too late.

>>159708641
"See? In Civ VI it CLEARLY shows just how bad the Christcuck Dark Ages were! We could be exploring the universe if it wasn't for imaginary sky daddies!"

>>159708880
be a charismatic xenophobe next time

I am going to play Civ V with a friend who's new to Civ (he played EU3 and HoI2 so he's not braindead).
I don't want to win quickly, but I want to instead teach him how to play and cause as much butthurt as possible with varied, interesting gimmicks without making him leave the game. What civilization do I pick? Venice?

>>159708641
>you can get knights in 4 techs, 3 if you're arabia
>you can get to robotics without mining
>you can get flight without sailing

>>159708891
>Balance issue
>MUST BE POLITICAL AGENDA DAY OF THE ROPE WHEN

>>159708925
>interesting gimmicks
How about heathen conversion exploit?

>>159708925
Declare war on him and surround his capital with immortals as persia

>>159708925
Correct. Be as Jewish as possible. Make everyone else declare war on him without letting him know you're paying them to kill your friend.

>>159709007
If you look at the polls, day of the rope is tomorrow since Trump is winning and the South doesn't have to rise again.

Did anyone here play Space Empires V?
It has a lot of features (literally everything present in Sci-Fi is featured), but the interface is so clunky I can barely finish the early game before quitting in frustration.

>>159687834
Its more useful for a tall empire than for a wide onw

>>159709024
No, I'm listening.

>>159709045
Jew mode activated. How do I amass enough gold? I constantly run out of it until I cover every non-bonus surface in trading posts.

>>159709028
That's not what I meant. In other games, I use silly, extremely situational features to elicit WTF. In SpringRTS (BA), for instance, I put nuclear mines onto choke points and metal spots. Noone uses mines in normal gameplay.

>>159709118
Yes I did.
But it was 9 years ago so I remember very little about it other than me making a living trophy hall of one of every conquered species above my homeworld.

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What mods are you using for your Civ VI experience, /civ4xg/?

At this early stage, I'm not entirely sure what to use - especially since this is my first 4x game and only the jankest of the jank is readily apparent to my virginal sense of balance. I'm using the Combined AI Cleanup, 8 Ages of Pace, and CQUI.

This seems promising, but I'm not sure:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/better-city-specialization.603541/

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>Welcome to the Late-game, shitbird

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>>159709337
>No, I'm listening.
Heathen Conversion Reformation Belief.

Move 1 prophet next to a barbarian, and have 3 missionaries adjacent to your prophet, but not to the barbarian.
As the barbarian moves into the tile of the prophet, each missionary tries to convert the units in that tile giving you 3 of that barbarian unit, your intial prophet and 2 more prophets.

Borobudur is useful for this since you want 3 or at least 2 missionaries for this.

Korea if you want to make the most of the holy sites.

>>159709502
Actually I should do that again in Stellaris: take a ringworld and put one of every species on it.
That sounds like a FUN objective, contrast to "Dude 40% lmao"

>>159709692
Can you do this with Great Engineers rather than prophets?

Because that would literally be wonder shitting.

>>159709746
Sounds neat. Unofficial capitol of the empire where everyone meets.

>>159708880
>not being able to handle an FE
pussy ass militarist

>>159709876
Probably.

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>>159708880
Keep playing until you lose you chicken shit faggot!

>>159709542
civ 6 is a piece of shit. I aint playing it again until expansion or some major patch/dlc

>>159710086
Well, aren't you fun

>>159709337
>That's not what I meant.
The meme is that he cannot get out of his capital because immortals are immortal

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What did xe mean by this?

As a general rule is it better to pick three regular green Ethics or one green and one orange?

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Would you go for animal husbandry or pottery?

>>159711194
What does pottery give you?
I would move down one tile so you are adjacent to both sheep (one of which gives you faith) and an extra chop.

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>>159711337
>What does pottery give you?
Well the in-game description suggests that pottery allows you to "harvest wheat" which I guess doesn't mean much because you can build farms on it regardless.

I think it's okay this way, I'd love to keep an extra tile that's adjacent to a mountain

>>159711105
I am not certain, there's definitely some benefit to having access to a larger number of ethos specific structures and techs, but the statistical bonuses for being a fanatic are pretty substantial.

>>159711337
>>159711643
Pottery lets you build the granary, no? +2 housing and +1 food is pretty fookin great.

>>159711194
Husbandry - you get a production from builder on an animal, but only gold from a fruit. Stick to 4pop until you can build on that fruit. You might be able to get husbandry and pottery+irrigation by the time your builder is on his final charge anyway because of the wheat.

>>159711643
harvesting a resource removes the resource and gives you a large yield based on that resource

>>159710665
What the hell are you doing to the game

So is Pericles just absolute trash? No one really talks about him, but I love having extra government slots.

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>AI is even worse than V's
>Agendas punish you for playing the game
>UI is dogshit
>lol the graphics I'm still upset about them haha
>Worst of all it had some neat idea that are wasted on a rubbish game

Civ 6 is fucking horrible.

>>159713173
>Civ 6 is horrible

It's really not, it just needs some polish and like one DLC. BE and Civ 5 on release were horrible. Civ 6 is surprisingly complete for a release in the modern day and age

The style is horrendous though yeah

>>159713038
His beard is the best in the game, therefore he's the best leader in the game

>>159713260
Please return to Reddit

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just end me

>>159713038
He's a just a diplomatic/city-state dicksucking version of Gorgo. Which is great and I like him, but yeah, he's not le random enough to be talked about

>>159713173
>Agendas punish you for playing the game
>waa waa I can't do whatever I want and steamroll every time

Agendas are nice touch to AI's personalities.

>>159698619
Peter is a cunt. Most games I play with him he power trips and goes on a conquering spree, declared war on me, then begs for peace after I defeat the first wave

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>>159713861
I wish there was an option to turn off the leader windows for denouncements entirely, nothing irritates me in Civ 6 more than having Cleopatra pop up every second turn telling me how much she hates me because i haven't beat the shit out of her yet

>>159713773
pussy

>>159713779
Weirdly, he has no real boost to acquiring city state favor, and his bonus from having them is kinda... shit

>>159713861
>Build single wonder
>Qin fucking detests me for the whole game
>Acquire a single luxury
>Montezuma fucking detests me for the whole game
>Befriend a city state on the opposite side of the world from Germany
>Frederick fucking detests me for the whole game
>No need to go to war
>Gorgo fucking detests me for the whole game and denounces 3 turns after we met on turn 20

I don't know what magically not shit version of Civ 6 you're playing, but would you kindly share it with us? The agenda don't add flavor; they completely overtake the AI and they follow it as law. Fuck off.

>>159714018
Well I have to agree, Cleopatra is real asshole in every game. But then again, it's so satisfying to wipe her kingdom off the face of earth.

What kind of music do you guys listen to while playing?

Also to my fellow American friends, who are you voting for today?

>>159714213
Imagine getting to fuck her after.

>>159713038
He's meh, so is Gorgo. Extra wildcard lets you be more flexible with your policies and there's none too impactful until the late game. Hoplites are good as defensive against cavalry rushes but becomes obsolete quickly. Extra bonus from CS, meh. You have 5 different type of CS ranging from military to religion and you'll only get their bonus accordingly. Against aggressive Civs who will just swallow other CS, you'd be lucky to settle close to the ones that are useful to you. Cheap cultural districts, whatever.

tldr he's a mediocre culture centric civ with bonuses from random CS.

>>159708880
If they're far enough away from you, use the distraction to eat neighbors until you're strong enough to take them. Play the Stalin to their Hitler.

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I was not prepared

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>>159714257
>Also to my fellow American friends, who are you voting for today?
You have to be a special kind of retard to vote for WW3 and more of the same PC propaganda-spewing corporate cocksucking because this guy is a bit goofy and his hairstyle is shit.

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>Its that one episode where cleopatra spawns right next to you and settles in the asscrack between two of my cities for the one horse tile

This one is playing on repeat

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>>159714535
Don't mind me, just testing to see if that image of yours can be improved.

>>159715060
>if you do not have a slot for the great work, you're still able to trade for it, but doing so will delete the great work

Can Civ 6 just go away already

>>159715289
Didn't mean to reply oops

>>159715289
Probably doesn't delete it but it appears when you build a place that has a slot

>>159714859

>Letting the AI forward settle you

Always have Horsemen on hand to capture AI settlers

Warmonger penalties are inconsequential because the AI will absolutely fucking loathe you for playing properly

The few civs that actually are supposed to like you for playing properly (Rome, Scythia, England, America) will probably still become unfriendly or even denounce out of nowhere despite never triggering their agenda

Also, the hidden agenda of every civ in the game will lead to them loathing you, and even civs with a big green face on their roster will ruin their standing with the entire world by surprise waring you in Renaissance because you are -only- keeping two or three machine guns in reserve, and enough money and production to get 10 in five turns

I need a new race to RP play in stellaris. Give me some ideas pls

So far I have played:
vulcans
klingons
the dragon reborn
terran, zerg and protoss
space waifus
slavic girls aka cute in prosecute
space pirate (from Metroid)

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>We are sending our 14th Fleet to join your attack
>Allies that actually help

>>159715983
Explain how you can roleplay Wheel of Time in space.

>>159715983

Pseudo-Arachnids.

>>159715983
4chan. Space shitposting led by moot.

>>159716180
Who?

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Clever girl

>>159716180
Charismatic, Intelligent, Industrious, Strong, Sedentary, Deviant.

Worth 4 trait points.
You could make 4chan if you genetically modify all of the pops later on.
Start with Charismatic, Intelligent, Sedentary, Deviant.

>>159716095

You know, Wheel of Time does kind of mirror an average 4X game.

Starts off fresh and cool, gets bogged down and formulaic, become boring, then you die before you finish the game.

>>159716214

Some cucked fag.

We love you and miss you moot

>>159716303
>Charismatic
this is not 4chan

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Kinda leaning towards feed the world, but Jesuit education seems to insanely good. What are the prices in faith?

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...

>>159716437
I'm the dragon reborn, and in madness I soon shall prevail. Twice I'll be marked, and twice I shall live; the heron sets my path, and names me true. Twice I'll be marked, and twice I shall die; my memory is gone, but twice I pay the price.

>>159716664
I talked about this earlier. You likely made your choice already, but I feel Jesuit Education is a waste. I'm not sure what the prices are in faith but it has to be 1000+ as a temple INSIDE a district is 1000+. This is on marameme. I always take divine spark, but that's because I always want to found my own religion, and the +1 to scientist is great too.

>>159716664

Work Ethic is probably the best if you have to pick anything

Religious Community is okay because housing is a pain in the ass in the mid-game

Feed the World needs a disproportionate investment in good Holy Sites placement and thus less good than it sounds, even though something like 15 food off your holy site is cray cray. Probably better if you are going for religion already

Reliquaries is unusuable unless you have a super specific setup like Kongo + Kandy + Yerevan + Unexplored Map

Zen Meditation is okay-ish, but honestly if your amenities are fucking you over, just build entertainment complexes and invest in Great Merchants

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>>159716949
Orbital bombardments all around

>>159716437
What's Wheel of Time? I remember seeing it mentionned on some feminists blog where it explained that the author had a problem with women.

>>159716664
Wow I forgot divine spark wasn't part of those options, my bad. Yeah religious community is the best IMO

>it's a Peter denounces me for warmongering after I accept his joint war declaration on a civ that was on the brink of declaring a surprise war against me episode

>>159717370

Joint Wars don't work properly, don't use them

Just declare alongside the AI, or declare for yourself and hope other AIs will jump in to despoil the nation

>>159717415
>something doesn't work in civ 6
Shocking

>>159717549
I say.

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>turn 30 rolls around
>immediately store my builder in my capital because I know what's about to happen
>turn 31
>the "fuck you" group of two bandit horsemen and one bandit horse archer roll up
>after pillaging my one farm they just sit outside my capital until I slowly wear them down with my warrior
>in the time it takes to deal with them another bandit camp spawns

>All Leader pages in the Civilopedia have something somewhat relevant in their Summary, like "this is a Culture civ" or "This guy is good at Tall
>Victoria's entry
>"Victoria is a polite and gentle young lady as long as she is getting her way. But if you don't let her on your continent, she is not amused!"
>The United Kindgom's page unironically qualifies the entire country as a democracy with "socialist tendencies"
>England's abilities are horribly useless to the point where it's hard to redeem them. The only saving grace is the idea of a cascading Redcoat rush, but it's so fucking late in the game your Redcoats will probably get mowed by cannons and machine guns
>The English AI is brain damage bad and will love you if you slap it across the room because "we share a continent, yay !", but otherwise hate you, not that it matters

Literally cucked the fuck out

>>159717902
>she is not amused
Fucking meme. Did they asked an intern to write that and told him to fill it with memes?

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>shuffle
>sparse resources
>random civ

This wasn't what I imagined for a start

>>159718095

Probably they let whoever the fuck wanted to write shit do it

Arabia's entry has something about "the faithful regretting the fall of the Arabic Empire" and Japan's entry literally has "atrocities" in "approximate quotation marks" when qualifying what they did in China in WW2

>>159718095
Knowing the current year. Probably yes.

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>>159718197
It's 2016

>>159718162
>Japan's entry literally has "atrocities" in "approximate quotation marks"
I don't give a fuck about Arabia, but Japan's atrocities were recognized and admitted. That SJW is picking a wrong fight. Unit 731 was a thing.
I'm cancelling my purchase, I'm done supporting Paradox. This is the last straw.

>>159718119
Imagine, some harald in the jungle occupying only diamonds spot in whole continent.

>>159718297
>civilization
>Paradox

>>159718297
you fuck those paracucks including shitskins!

>>159718713
>>159718297
>/gsg/ers decides to try a non paraducks game
>finds something to get angry about
>blames paraducks

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FUCKING SHIT COASTAL RAID DOESN'T WORK. BUGGY PIECE OF SHIT.
Have anybody else experienced this problem?
Fuck Harald Hardradaddy

>>159718941
what's a paraduck?

>>159718993
Paracuck + duck.

>>159719083
dang, even a duck can cuck a cuck

>>159719301
how many cucks could a duck cuck if there was a duck that could cuck cucks?

>>159719417
n+1

>>159719417
that's because of duck cocks they can cuck some cuck. No luck.

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>>159718984
Build more boats

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>>159719417
>>159719565
>duck dicks

>>159709651
Distant Worlds really breaks when there are only four or five empires left on a really huge map.
Hundreds of attack vectors and not even the automation will help you.

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>want to try stellaris mod
>install some that looks great
>load game
>10 planet limits
>have to find the one to change among the 10 I installed
Who the fuck at Paradox thought sectors were a good idea.
Just fucking let me turn the planet limit off

>>159719906
I know, right? Dem cocks.

I fond of ducks. Dogs looks up to you. Cats looks down to you. Ducks threat you with long pointy dick.

>>159720153
Stop being bad at video games

>>159720212
>minmaxing my 55 planet empire instead of letting an incompetent AI do it means your bad
yeah fuck off

Is it possible to get more than 3 heroes at a time in endless space?

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Strangereal mod when?

>>159720153
i am pretty sure its isbs balance

>>159720330
>can't even delegate properly

>>159714518
Welcome to the end game.
Hope you like blobbing, that's all we serve.

>editing mods to add compatibility of other mods
i've gone too deep down the stellaris hole

>>159720543
>let ai play instead of him
>I-it's because I'm good
Having to pause every 2 years to inspect and upgrade my 50 planets made the game 10 times more fun.

>>159720510
Yeah thanks, just found it. Have a (You) nonetheless

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>>159720395
>new zealand is almost exactly the same but further south
>free state
Cool.

>capital has moved to not aukland
Fuck whoever made this map.

Do you conquer city states? I feel they are so bountiful and clutter up the map and owns territory that's good for expands.

>>159721089
Baraka? You can vote for MK characters now?

>>159721862
I would be more inclined to do it if it was Cyrax.

>>159721564
Only if the suzerain bonus is shit.

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What in the absolute fucking shit is this? I feel like I'm just gonna eventually have to fight modern era units with my cossacks and ballistae

>>159722861
You better hope German plays them in soccer or something.

>>159713173
It's heavily unpolished but definitely not a shit game.

>>159722861
You prioritize sheep and lavras before science, not so strange you fall behind on science then?
Also not sure what speed you're on but 144 turns and not even a library in your capital, not sure what you expected

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>>159721089

If an AI breaks a promise to you you should immediately get a no war mongering penalty casus belli to attack them. Fuck.

>>159723045
>speed
I'm playing on epic and yes, while I'm not focusing on science at all, other civilizations don't have even a fraction of what brasil has in terms of its scientific power

is activating DLC for stellaris as easy as it is for the rest of paracuck's games or will steam know I didn't pay for them this time

>>159712592
A pretty common bug which happens when a civ you haven't met yet declares a joint war on you

Is there any way to stop Age of Wonder 3 from forcibly ending my game when I take my enemy's throne?

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>>159689162
I'm not really a Stellaris-player, I have it and tried it a few times but what the fuck am I supposed to be looking at here? What kind of a clusterfuck is that?

>>159725373
Textbook example of a doomstack

I'm wedged up against an FE and a superior federation associate who left and is starting to hate me with no more colonisable planets in range other than two holy worlds that I've been leery to take. Should I take them or will I get my ass instantly reamed?

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>Gargantua black hole next to starting planet
>Early Infinity Machine
>Proceed to hack it
>"Stop it pls leave me alone"
>can't interact further
gee how glad am i that it is worthless now.

>Playing FfH
>Having fun
>Build up a army of adepts and sack a few barbarian cities with skeleton armies
>...
>Reminded why I dislike Civ' when I look at the map

I hate how the AI, if left alone builds infinitely until they fill every tile on the map. It makes it so that if you focus on anything besides building outward you are screwed when every other civilization has 15-25 cities.

>>159726036
is the FE one that cares about holy worlds? Is your fleet power and capacity at least equivalent to the FE?

>>159727293
Yes, they're a Holy Guardians. And no, I'm still in the midgame and will get raped easy. I'm just wondering how many holy worlds it would take to set them off since the other guy has effectively blocked me from expanding and the only other option is infilling with terraforming.

>>159728217
It only takes one.
You get a negative two hundred opinion modifier iirc.

>>159728571
Welp, guess I'm tearing down some shitholes for the next 30 years.

>>159722861
Maybe he started next to a science giving natural wonder?

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>Beat the game 4 times
>Exploits still exist from D1 so multiplayer is a nono
Well looks like i have no urge to play this anymore

>>159722861
hue

>>159718713
>>159718860
>>159718941
I can't hate Firaxis. I had too much fund at Civilizations.

Obviously Paradox brainwashed them.

>conquer planet
>purge faggots left behind there
>everyone hates me
>2x declaration of war by the end of the year
>get raped
i hate having no way of "evicting" left behind aliens without everyone hating me

>>159732043
are you still able to purge planets without everyone hating you by just parking your fleet in orbit for a few years?

>>159732043
Thinking of one game resettling undesirables to planets near fanatical purifiers.
After a planet is filled up I'll sell it to them.
Watch the purifiers purge them, then I declear war on purifiers and take the planet back.

>>159732043
It's quicker to make them do the evicting themselves with the Cleanse wargoal. I'd like to know if there are good ways to survive playing a kill all xenos empire too.

Is there an option to stop CIV6 from automatically selecting new units for me? CIV5 and BE had this.

>>159732891
It's in the game files.
Documents - my games - civ6 - UserOptions - find the bit called "autocycle" and replace 1 with 0.

>>159732636
on that note, how can i buff population-murdering via bombardment? Could i get away with just editing one file, or

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Have anyone else been playing Halcyon6? Surprisingly good 4x/Xcom mix.

>can't even finish a game on king difficulty
how did they do this

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When do they finally patch this broken turd?

>>159734235
Because it's too hard, because it crashes, or beacuse you get bored?

>one of the leaders is 2/3 literal god
How is this balanced?

Holy Hell religious combat is bullshit. Why are everyone else's apostles able to do so much fucking damage to my apostles but my apostles do shit to theirs? It makes no fucking sense.

What's the meta for ship loadouts? I'm running all missiles on my ships, shields for corvettes, armour for destroyers, and enough armour to get close to 90% mitigation and topped off with shields on cruisers and battleships.

How is Civ 6 broken? been having a blast

>>159736218

Shit keeps crashing on me. AI is inconsistent as Hell too.

>>159736171
They have the +5 civic, or the +20 promotion

Keep disputants around and let them recover!

i am fond of pigs

>>159736468

What Civic? I didn't see a Civic like that. And shit, 5 combat strength shouldn't have that big a difference. It's usually, like, 105 for me vs 110 or 115 for them. I don't get it.

>>159736653

unit damage is based on power difference, you're not 5% apart, you're 5 strength

don't ask me for the exact formula though. 5 is noticeable, as you've noticed

>>159736653
Are you retarded? The combat strength operates on flat values. 10 vs. 15 is the same as 110 vs. 115.

>>159736792

I've not seen that large a power gap with that small a strength score with military units. Fucking religion, I'd have already gotten my religious victory if I hadn't accidentally got a culture victory first. Now I have to do it again with that shit disabled.

>>159736551
t. pig pro

What are some decent games that doesn't have victory conditions(well, other than like total domination type stuff like in Stellaris)?

I always get so damn stressed when playing games like Civ because I feel I have to constantly do things exactly right and it's exhausting. So, are there any decent ones out there where I can more make my own goals? Like well, Stellaris(or all the other Paradox games for that matter).

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If you think you're the only one who suffers frorm being a war mongering piece of shit

>>159736653
Religious orders, it's an economic policy from reformation church

>>159737216

The AI is literally incapable of handling diplomacy and every AI will loathe eachother by the time Medieval rolls out

I just got the abandoned terraformer event and obviously I wasn't keen on risking a key colony and dismantled it. I am curious though, what are the possible outcomes if I had reactivated it?

>>159737969

I'm pretty sure the worst outcome forces you to get a constructor there around the clock, else you lose any yields

>>159736912
Don't bother, religious victory has to be the most underwhelming one. You have to dump production into religious shit which means you're not putting them into culture, research or units. However while the first gets you strong civic card things, second gets you tech advantage, and last lets you capture cities, religion does absolutely nothing and everyone hates you to hell and back because you convert their cities.

On the top of that, there is no point at which going for religious victory gets exciting. You send a wave of apostles to convert a holy city, convert it, AI complains, you spread your aids to nearby cities until apostles get used up, AI denounces you. Repeat 5 more times. For some reason AI only buys religious units in the holy cities, so if you convert it it'll just spread your religion instead.

Then at some point when you convert a city, a very shitty movie most of which is a moving still image starts playing. You won, it's ogre, gj, you are cool

Civ VI patch when?

>>159738276
As a $19.99 DLC somewhere in this year.

Guys my game keeps crashing after like twenty turns. Send help.

>>159738079
Well that's underwhelming, I was thinking more along the lines of a flash terraform into a random (and probably shittier) world with a tiny chance of snagging a gaia world.

>>159738435
Sent ;)

>>159738408

oh boy i can't wait to pay for <retarded leader of fucksville>

>>159738485
>ship the game filled with random bongos and shit nobody wants
>makes you pay for actual interesting civs

Thanks Firaxis.

>>159738485
>Poland
>fucksville
o kurwa :DDD

>>159738645
>poland
>leader

laughing nobles.jpg

>>159696172

They've been working on this game for a while. I doubt they can improve the AI in a couple of weeks.

>>159738873

i doubt they can improve the ai

>>159738943
i doubt they can improve

>>159738943
I doubt they can improve anything

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>Faith
>Culture
>Military

Jesus Christ, is there anything this guy CAN'T DO?

>>159739050
>Faith
>Culture

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How much districts do you have in early-mid game, guise? I'm trying to get into this whole district building and be a good nigger, but I'm struggling to have more than 1 per city as I have to churn out troops all the time to either defend against barbarians or to prevent AI players settling in the most unappropriate place...

>>159739050

>Faith
>Culture

Literally the two most useless yields in the game

At least a human player can Simcity very fucking hard with this guy due to the super powerful artificial adjacencies he can pull off

>>159739185
Industrial zones and Commercial districts are a must to stay competitive. After that you can kinda focus on what you'd like but generally speaking a campus for a third district won't do you wring.

How come my leaders are static pictures while I keep seeing screenshots in different poses? Is it because I pirated the game?

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>>159739050
>get introduced to him because his scout bumped into one of my cities
>calmly presents himself, speaks about his humbleness and bushido
>"wow what a nice guy I have to befriend him"
>the very next turn like 9 fucking religious units of Japan swarm all over my city, attack my inquisitor, a couple of them already aim for my capital
FUCK YOU

>>159739538
Industrial ones are probably biggest deal breakers in the game but commercials aren't that much of a big deal considering you can get most of your income from trade deals anyway. I guess they give you trade routes? The food for growth is useful. But it doesn't even come close to factories in importance.

>>159739185

Start with a Commercial district, the trade route is game breaking strong if you are smart and send it FROM YOUR EXPAND over to your capital

Then, add a Campus district. Tech is just that much more valuable than Civics. If you're ahead in tech, you get more buildings to improve your districts quicker, and better troops to defend your SimCity with when the AI decides to throw some abortion of a siege at your border cities

Industrial is usually third. Not only is it late in the opening tree, but it's very hard for a city to connect its production buildings by itself. This is where the money to buy things, the flat production and food to enable the district and the science comes in

You can switch Industrial with Science if the city is that exceptional in either, but Commerce usually always comes first

Don't settle off-river unless you have an excellent engineered Capital - Commercial - Harbor - Sea Resources setup. Rivers are just too critical for food and important district placement

A mountain within two tiles of your city (or a body of fresh water you can't settle right on) can substitute for real fresh water, although you lose the free two housing from building an "useless" aqueduct, which can hurt in the middle game because it usually gates your fourth district

>>159739897
You can choose if you want to have animated leaders or static pictures in either regular settings or graphics settings.

>>159739981
>I guess they give you trade routes?
Untill industrial era and factories, you get better ROI on hammers and food from commercial district+cravan than on industrial zone+building. Gold helps new cities,especially those w/o fresh water, to develop quickly into productive ones. The only notable exception is if you can put down a lot of industrial zones near/around a bunch of mines, or if you are japan.

A-at least the music is good, right?

>>159740537

It is, although I'm a bit disappointed about the Modern themes, they all sound washed out and often the key notes are completely gone in favor of stock "modernity songs" like rising electronic hums

I didn't expect a SKRILLEX REMIX of the thing, but come on

>>159740661
Hey man, that Japan modern theme is straight up GitS, no bully.

>>159740661
Agree on a good deal of them, it's hard to beat good old fashioned full orchestra. Some of them are standouts though, like Russia's and its actual choir and Japan's.

The new main theme just doesn't stand up well to Baba Yetu though, but that's a tough peak to surpass.

>>159739185
districts are really the entirety of progress in the game as they contain all the relevant buildings, you are really only as good as the number of districts you have.

if you are afraid early game just spam warriors. the god of the forge bug and ahoge makes them extremely cheap to build, they have no maintenance cost, and they are pretty serviceable. you can support them with maybe 3 archers and 1 spearman for the eureka boosts.

>>159733450

Fun, but way too repetive.

>>159741280
>bug
What bug?

>>159741280
>Ahoge

>>159741406
If anyone takes God of the forge everyone gets the bonus.

>>159741492
>just took God of the Forge in my game

Did I just fuck myself?

>>159741460
*Ahegao

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>>159741589

>>159741382
Huh, interesting. I found there is enough ship/officer variety to not get boring for me, but I see your point.

>>159741537
Everything other than pasture faith (and maybe + great people points) is tantamount to fucking yourself.

>>159741690
This guy made me addicted to goblins.

>>159739050
science
food
production

>start on one of these huge multi-galaxy maps
>tons of other empires
>border 5 of them right from the start
>they all immediately declare rivalry on me
>difficulty is "hard"
>i cant do anything with them since they all dislike me, any kind of diplomacy is dead
>few hours later, have 5 colonies and a 5k power fleet
>one of them declares war on me
>jumps right into the face of my home system
>burns my spaceport in 15 seconds with a 2k fleet
>my fleet comes in
>gets burned too, their fleet has 200 power remaining, continues to clean up whatever is left of me
>cant make a trade deal because EVERYTHING is -1000

does the AI get some kind of battle bonus when on higher difficulty?

Also whats the arguably strongest weapon combination?

>>159741832
What about pasture culture?

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>>159741894

He's responsible for a lot of things.

Are any Stellaris mods out there actually worth trying out?

>>159742320
Yeah, I meant that one in my post, it's the best pantheon in the game. I don't think there is pasture faith at all.
Also hammer from floodplains and marshes is nice if you are Egypt or Arabia and spawned near lots of those.

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>>159741690
>one of the best artists on the internet
>mind-blowing quality, can seriously rival a lot of huge studios
>either draws insanely yawn-inducing vanilla shit like Alfie I absolutely love her mother though, wish there was more of her
>or sissy ladyboy demons

>>159740661

the people are the heroes now

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>>159741894

>>159742919
Pestilence, pls.

>>159743318
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