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BIG DOG IS OFF THE LEASH EDITION

>What's new?

Two new heroes, Varian and Ragnaros announced at Blizzcon, along with a new brawl map and a couple of new skins.

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20327398/new-heroes-and-more-announced-at-blizzcon-2016-11-4-2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4900jOY8cCM

>Latest patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20324866/balance-update-october-10-25-2016

>Where do I find you big human cock loving faggots?
/join /vg/

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked. It's not worth it.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

Previously on /hotsg/: >>159492407
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>>159654849
>>159654889
The pandas migrate first.
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>159655192
That sucks. Is karma worth money or something?
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>>159655368
No.
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BY FIRE BE PURGED
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>>159655654
no

captcha:STOP
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The new brawl is everything a brawl has to be.
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>>159655368
They're just "feel-good validity points".

On Reddit, you're generally upvoted for saying things everyone likes and thinks you deserve praise for, while downvotes mean you said something that people either don't agree with or dislike, and they've deemed your post unworthy of a read, so if you accumulate so many downvotes, it hides your post so only people who want to go out of their way to read all the hidden poss at the bottom of a thread can read it.

As impossible as it may sound, Reddit is more of a hivemind than 4chan. Agree with everyone else and you're welcome, think and say anything that may be controversial or negative in any way,and your voice doesn't deserve to be heard, unless everyone else has deemed it appropriate to say.
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>>159655654
UGU
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>>159656130
why not give us the thunderlord skin, wielding thunderfury, blessed blade of the windseeker?
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>>159655654
I want him already.
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i haven't played this game like like 5 months

is Sonya still gud?
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>>159656219
Probably because Al'Akir may be on the table.

>>159656263
If it has good damage and a stun, it's viable. Yes.
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>>159656130
I'm buying him day one.

>>159654641
Since Butcher, yeah. I'm crazy about this game, despite getting worse as time goes on.
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>>159655654
Can we sexualize Ragnaros?
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>>159656373
WIIIINNNNNDDDSSS
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>>159656263
She's good on Infernal Shrines and works pretty well on Braxis Holdout.
Other than that, there's better warriors, but she's servicable if you're into barbarian snu-snu.
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>>159656130
Gah, what is that thing?
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>>159653841
Damn dead thread.
Love it, the stealth changes are "stealth" buff for Samuro. It's even funnier not seeing him anywhere in the notes other then in the change to stealth.
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>>159656757
Let's make stealth even more annoying!
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>>159656757
Does anyone even use Recon Drone or Tassadar enough for it to matter
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>>159656757
>Samuro: Way of Illusion Talent stacks now properly grant bonus attack damage to Mirror Images.
He did get a buff in the bug fixes
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>>159656130
is that a fucking chibi skin?
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>possession can now be used on catapults
Total game changer
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>stitches tries to gorge me just as i entomb him
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>>159656110
Sounds like a forum for Hillary supporters.

I'm scared.
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What is the worst team comp you can imagine?
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>>159656515
LIKE SWATTING INSECTS
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>>159657454
Abathur, TLV, Cho'gall and Murky
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>>159657459
Why do Ragnaros and Al'Akir have an obsession with insects?
Are the other Elemental Lords racist against insects too?
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>>159657170
I think it's on all reveals like BW teleport reveal, Kara's dash reveal, rehgar's reveal.
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>>159656757
I trust this person. >>159656613

It'll be an interesting couple of days
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>>159657806
Messed up the quote as I came from the other thread. I meant this guy >>159645123
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>>159657687
>dash reveal
Well no longer, he instead has wards on a pretty low cooldown.
Also, no one uses reveal talents except Medivh and maybe Tassadar against multiple stealth heroes.
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>>159657334
is a wow pet skin.
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>>159657939
They said another patch will be coming this week and one of the things on it is nerfs to Samuro.
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>>159656373
>>159656548
Looks like they buffed her talents a bit

She feels the same, crushed a game with her just now.

Did they buff or nerf Artanis? What about spooky skelington man?
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>>159658772
Artanis is getting a rework but it's not releasing now. They said they are looking into buffing Leoric.
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>>159658968
Damn they still haven't buffed mr skeltal? Guess they still have PTSD from his release.
Oh well
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Everyone's favorite memer with a progress update. You all know about my dream to get to bronze 5 and I have about 4 more games to throw to get there. I discovered a new meme on sky meme where you stand outside the temple and kill the minions so you don't cap for your team :^)
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Lunara is somewhere between cute and not cute
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>>159658000
BW definitely uses the reveal talent when they are against stealth heroes
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>>159656485
Of course
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>>159659314
literally who
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>>159660282
Becayse thats the important part naturally
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>>159657685
Wouldn't you if those pesky insects were trying to ruin you shit all the time?
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>>159660480
>Raden bursted a huge volcano on top of alakir cucking him forever

lmao
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>>159660480
holy fuck I've seen this pics a shitton of times and I just noticed therazane
what the fuck is she doing
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>>159660835
Being a fat NEET as usual.
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>>159661059
>mfw the titankeepers try to impale me and they realize I'm made of stone
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>>159654849
Post statistics
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>watch samuro video on youtube
>this guy talking about lvl 7 talents saying that burning blade is the best in every situation and crushing blows is complete garbage
literally creating bronzies. no wonder half the playerbase is retarded
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>>159662483
phantom pain is da best
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>>159662582
They're all situational.
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>>159662582
snake eater is better desu
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>have a piece of shit human being intentionally feeding
>we all agree to report him for it and abusive chat, IRL threats included
>most likely 4x reports for abusive chat and 4x for intentionally feeding
>i get him in my next game
this fucking game
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Hey, can anybody else not get into the PTR? I keep getting stuck at authentication. I need my Varian time man.
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>>159662483
I didn't know 50% of the playerbase was pros

Jokes apart, stop being to generous, pros ate like 5%, and decent people another 5%, clearly 90% of the playerbase is lacking a brain
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>>159663119
>falling for it and giving shekels to blizzard to play heroes on PTR
ayy
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>>159663465
>not just playing it in try mode

Yeah okay shekels mhm

I'd still give my money to Blizzard for Varian though. Been a warrior main since Vanilla in WoW, this is everything I could have ever wanted in a champ.
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>they still haven't gotten rid of garden terror
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>>159663119
I'm in since a few hours ago, you gotta keep trying until you connect, but you gotta have connections to play Varian in anything else but try mode.
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>>159663807
well even in the fucking blizzcon that shitty map got played, the only map that even pros hates is the blackheart bay
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Dehaka is shit! SHIIIIT!!
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>constant losses
>feels bad want to quit
>change attitude
>start every game positive, greet everyone and tell them to do their best and I'll do my best too
>stay vocal and on top of pings
>thank people when they help with lane, camps, objective, etc
>win rate skyrockets
>my own morale is increased as a result
>slowly climbing out of MMR hell

A little kindness goes a long way. Dig yourself out of the salt mines and others will follow. Stay positive and make the game more fun for everyone and yourself too!
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>>159666565
what a faggot way to climb
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>>159666565
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>>159666565
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>>159666819
I wonder if that's what he says to his Yakuza underlings after a long hard night of drug smuggling.
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>>159666951
>hating on jackie chan

how low
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>>159666749

The game is more enjoyable when everyone isn't frothing at the mouth because they are blaming their entire team and being toxic shitters. It's a game focused on teamwork, and the team that hates each other less is more likely to work together, and that wins your far more games than trying to brute force carry with four people who hate your guts and don't have your back.
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>>159667075
I'm not hating at all, I just wonder if he's as enthusiastic and cheerful after a good Colombian Necktie.
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>>159666951
>Show about jackie chan taking over a yakuza organization and guiding them to the light with his no trabbu superpowers
I`d watch that
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>>159659232
They buffed Leo's numbers and Suck Nope a bit, he is somewhat decent now and even sees competitive play, but rework is nigh.

Same with Artanis, some numbers buff, short dash to target after using W is baseline now (about half the distance of Zealot Charge, which is still a popular pick), but again rework is nigh upon us and they are probably gonna let him use the Prism during Blade Dash, finally.
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>>159667520
I thought he already could? I read this somewhere
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>>159656110
sounds like a dictatorship desu senpai
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>>159667361
Supposedly his best buddy Yakuza overlord guy, is a real fucking nice guy who helps old ladies cross streets and stuff. Jackie's putting that Jackie touch on them for sure.
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>>159667834
>dictatorship with no leading figure or military oppression
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>>159667793
There was sort of a leak during some of the recent PTR instances and Artanis got the promised dashprism, but then evil blizzes said nope, not intended, later this year.
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WTF there's aactually a seperate bar in player profile for matches played as multiclass heroes.

So will they add more of those? Will they rework any existing heroes to multiclass? Why didn't they just call Varian a specialist?
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I need another supp. Auriel or Brightwing?
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>>159668906
specialists are a meme
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http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20344328/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-november-7-2016-11-7-2016

The important points :
>new character : Varian
>terror & dragon reduce duration of blinds by 50%

>Modification about the stealth
>Abilities that reveal Stealthed/Cloaked Heroes will no longer remove the Stealth/Cloak effect, but will instead temporarily reveal the cloaked Hero.
>Scouting Drone : Now also reveals Stealthed/Cloaked Heroes

>illidan modifications

>thrall ults balanced
>Earthquake deals 50 damage to Heroes with each pulse (will now trigger Frostwolf Resilience)
>Sundering : Stun duration reduced from 1.25 to 1 seconds

>zeratul rework
>kharazim rework

>other small modificiations on various heroes : alarak, raynor, xul, abathur, sylvanas, Leoric

>They also talked about a rework of Leoric soon.

what do you think about it ?
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>>159669139
if you have tyrande, start with auriel, then get bw. otherwise get bw / tyrande you scrub
if you want to play support properly you need all options available to you
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>>159669321
don't you have frogs to eat
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>>159669321
arent you a little bit late anon
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>mfw getting abathur on brawl
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>>159666565
>constant losses, up to 12 in a row sometimes
>feels bad, quit for a while
>come back with a changed attitude
>start every game positive, greet everyone and joke around with them at the game start
>shotcall, ping, communicate
>still fucking lose to constant feeding, 4v5 at objective, not ending the game when given the chance and afk flaming
>slowly sinking deeper into mmr hell like every season
>don't give a fuck any more
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPE9dzzgt2U
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>>159669139
Don't buy Auriel, she'll be permanently free next week.
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>>159669769
h-how
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PSA:

DO NOT BUY ANY OF THE FOLLOWING HEROES!
DO NOT BUY ANY OF THE FOLLOWING HEROES!
DO NOT BUY ANY OF THE FOLLOWING HEROES!

>Auriel
>Greymane
>Kerrigan
>Li-Ming
>Zarya

They will be given out for free between November 15 and January 4.

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20327397/team-up-to-conquer-the-nexus-challenge-11-4-2016
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>>159670446
he radiant dashes twice
thats still a lot of damage
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>>159670481
:^)
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>>159670481
>15 games with a friend
i didn't want zarya anyway...
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>>159670481
what happens if i already have all those heroes?
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>>159670785
they will be removed from your account until you completed the cahllenge
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>>159670785
They'll disable those heroes from all game modes until you play 15 and 30 games with your friends.
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>>159670785
you still get a new mount and a 30 days stimpack
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>>159670446
Way of Hundred Fists baby.
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>>159670785
You just lost your final chance to get a friend
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fun and CUTE! CUTE!
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>>159672927
little cock-hungry slut
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>>159672927
Honey boo boo
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>>159672927
Break beneath the endless tide.
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>>159673480
>gook
puked a little in my mouth
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>>159674009
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>>159674348
Literal perfection
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http://us.battle.net/forums/en/heroes/topic/20751575633
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/heroes/topic/20751575633
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/heroes/topic/20751575633
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>>159676387
>A lot of players who are non-disabled play the game as though they have a disability, so you may find you actually play as well or better than some.
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>>159654849
>varian's abilities
wow, i fell asleep reading them. man, mobas are a glut of "similar heroes with one thing different"
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>>159670481
fucking shit, just bought zarya, auriel and li-ming
fml
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>>159676387
they let two NA teams play at blizzcon so why shouldn't he be allowed to participate?
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We fist of the north star now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPE9dzzgt2U&feature=youtu.be
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>>159679474
no, we blind now, seeing as how it was already posted
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>>159679601
What a salty faggot you are, friend
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My ARAM brawl lasted 20 minutes

Is this normal?
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>draft starts
>first pick thrall on our team
>retard on our team: REALLY?
>THRALL REALLY?
>im so tired of these shit picks
>he prepicks murky
>fuck you you lose now
>you cant pick so you lose now
>fuck you
>he proceeds to feed the entire game
what makes these fucking retards keep playing?
jesus fucking christ just exit game and do something else for a while
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>>159681826
>gets called out
>throws the le salt meme
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>>159682229

Thrall isn't even a bad pick, Jesus Christ sorry m8
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>>159682229
He just wanted to pick Murky in legit way
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God, what is with people and not finishing the job? If the core is at 20 percent and we have all keeps up, we need to go core, not fuck around with camps.
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>>159657402
The very opposite actually, the oompa loompa faggots descended on there a long time ago and will get all buttblasted over literally anything disparaging or disagreeing with him. But let me guess, it's okay when it's that way.
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>>159684134
People underestimate themselves, and want to play it safer. That's my guess anyway, I noticed people want those camps first then want to push with the camps instead of just rushing core/keeps.
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>>159684134
If I'm someone that can smash a camp quickly and/or we're 5 together near a camp, I'd like to do the camp and let the mercs do their own thing towards the core. Good distraction and can help with the core or even finish the core if all enemy are dead/occupied.
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>>159682229
retards can always "win" by making you mad. little chance anything happens to them.

>>159684318
>1 sub is reddit
is this some sort of "huehue you went to reddit because you took the bait" posts? clueless as fuck.
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>Cleanse (Active)

Removed

What did they mean by this?
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>>159685708
why the fuck don't they make cleanse baseline on some healers, i will never understand
so fucking boring to only pick cleanse in that tier 100% of the times
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Varian is op as fuck.
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>>159686845
Which form?
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>>159687014
I would have to guess that talent that reduces the CD on his Charge by 8 seconds and gives it a stun is most likely the most OP talent he's got.
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>>159686845
is he useless before 10 though?
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>>159684767
>1 sub

Most of that site has been shilling for him for a while now.
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>>159687014
Twin Blades
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Is it bad that one significant reason I want Samuro is so I can be a brown orc and fly the Warsong flag as well as him just looking fun? Muh warcraftfag side is too strong to resist.
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>>159688508
Original skin second tint? That's what I use--the best. Master is too weeb for me.

Just prepare for bronzies to say he's the most overpowered thing in existence yet he isn't at all.
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>>159684318
Uhhh this isn't serious right? reddit politics board was so controlled by faggot liberals that Donald fans had to make their own board because anything regarding trump is downvoted by hoards of retarded liberals.
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So way of hundred fists is a must pick for monk now?
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>>159689195
Yep that's the one. I appreciate the nice theming/effort they did for Samuro's base skin recolors. Like default is green orc with a Burning Blade banner, second's brown orc with the Warsong, last one that makes him all grey's got the Shattered Hand.
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>Stitches who spent the entire match gets MVP
>thinks he did good
>literally lost because we had no front line

Thank Blizzard for rewarding shitters
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http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/94-varian#OeTeYeceLeQeReeBA

melter varian
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>>159691837
>Stitches who spent the entire match
Hm?
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>>159692523
I guess he accidentally the entire match.
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>>159687836
What's so good about it? I: would've assumed Arms would've been the better Assassin spec.
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>>159692523

Oh sorry.

He spent the whole game killing creeps and not helping with team fights.

My mistake.
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How's prot Varian? Is he main tank worthy?
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>>159692880

He's decent, but lacks AOE crowd control.

He will probably be substituted in place of Johanna or Muradin.
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>>159693271
Seconding this.
I think he will probably be a great second-warrior option since he does have some great team-fight abilities like the banners and Demo Shout.
The synergy of taunt+parry feels very nice.
The charge is useful, especially with the stun, taking that talent but then that weakens parry.
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does taunt actually force the target to walk over and attack varian? like a mini-mind control? couldn't tell in the spotlight vid
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>>159693927
Oh, and I forgot, since Taunt forces them to attack you, it's a great way to use Parry to gib a weak hero trying to run away.
And Varian's Charge is at least longer than Artanis' untalented charge. But I do wish he had a talent for a further charge.
But that, with Taunt+Parry would probably be too much.
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>>159694105
Not really. It's very short range, so you pretty much have to charge up to them and then Taunt.
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>>159692648
>you attack super fast, and every other attack procs his trait for bonus damage
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>>159694202
>too much
This is a hero that competely invalidates Tassadar and Artanis AND still gets the option to reduce healing to fuck double healer comps.
Varian is OP because not only is he flexible as hell, he's also good despite not specializing.

He's not the first choice, but he can main tank without problem.
His Dps config turns him into a less extreme Butcher that can still buff his allies with banners.
Want to help your burst damage healers? Just make their target vulnerable for 3 seconds :)
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There's no limit before I can play ranked games, is there? I can start as soon as I install the game, correct?
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>>159697410
You need to own a certain number of heroes and I think they have to be above level 5? I think? Look it up, there are some barriers.
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>>159697410
You need 14 heroes at least at level 5 each.
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Varian needs rewind.

I must be a genius! Double Lion Fang!
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>>159698329
pls no. He can already do 80% of a squishy's health without them being able to react with the vulnerability ult.
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>>159698329
you're an absolute madman
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still alive game!
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When are they adding the ability to spectate a game?
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>>159700627
Eventually I hope, StarCraft II engine is shit!
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Why does lunara have so many viable talents? Just give me one build path like most other heroes pls
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>>159700910
I know. Are you going to take Nature's Culling or go damage at lvl 7. Such hard choices.
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>>159700910
Dehaka seems even crazier with that shit.
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>>159701305
Splintered spear is a good choice too
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>>159670481
>tfw don't have any of those

Feels pretty good senpai
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>>159703508
same here, brother.
>tfw a jew and usually buy master skins and save up anyway
all of of this upcoming FREE
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>tfw too intelligent for metafags
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>>159704145
>tfw was deciding between Medivh and Greymane recently
>Went with wizened asshole of bird trickery over dog grandpa
>mfw that announcement came only days later
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>>159704727
man, I'd love a Kharazan Medivh skin. Big party boy that slaps down big jacuzzis for portal mastery.
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>>159704727
Why is Medivh so based but never recognised inside and outside of game?

outside of game
>no one cares about him
>no one recognised how BASED he is
>no one realises how fucking strong and well-rounded he is

inside of game,
>no one takes portals
>no one appreciates shields
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>>159704843
Since HotS and HS are the only places Warcraft gets to have any humor anymore, I'd love some funky Medivh here too.
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>try the aram brawl
>get li ming + 3 ranged and abby vs literally 5 tanks
>go orb build and never even get touched by cc while doubling everyone's damage

This is fine.
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>>159705924
Orb build is underrated but it sort of doesn't fit her kit/trait. Especially after the huge Orb nerf.

Did ya win?
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>>159705970
Hell yeah we won. They didn't even take down the front wall of our keep. I forgot to take a screen but I had like 100k+ hero damage at the end.

Orb build just feels like you're playing a pseudo-chromie, especially once you get the range upgrade.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRIS-wkYC2U
memes
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holy shit when you get to level 10 with varian the game plays the WoW level-up sound
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>>159707936
Quest Accepted!
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>>159707936
>charge same sound as in WoW
>those fucking banners
What else does he have?
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>>159708217
the taunt sound is also from WoW
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>>159706504
>dad jokes
best king
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>>159706504
"I think I've seen onyxia's head hung from the gates of stormwind about a million times....it's still not enough."
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>>159710549
Onyxia
C O N F I R M E D
O N F I R M E D
N F I R M E D
F I R M E D
I R M E D
R M E D
M E D
E D
D
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>>159710678
? ok?
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>>159710678

How can anyone be this retarded?
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>play ranked late at night
>one steamroll after another, skill levels are completely random, ragers and retards everywhere
>become a normie, get a job, can only play 2-3 days each morning between 7 and 8
>consistently high quality games, my win rate skyrocketed, retards are seen a lot less often, haven't seen a rager / AFKer in a week
went from diamond 5 to diamond 1
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>>159711962
>>become a normie, get a job, can only play 2-3 days each morning between 7 and 8
I cannot even begin to imagine this.
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>>159711962
2-3 games*
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>>159657402
It is. It is Shillary incarnate.
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>>159700291
>those shoulderpads on Ming
Has magic gone too far?
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>>159668075
Tyranny of the majority
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>20 minutes into the game
>our tank and healer die defending a fort vs 5 enemies while 2 of us are dead
????????????????????
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>plat 2
>kerrigan on my team can't land her combo
>i stun a 30% hp auriel and the dumb cunt pulls her out of her own stun
>our lunara is exploring the enemy jungle on her own, gets killed 5 times
what the fuck was this game
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>>159669643
Happened to me today, sat on my thrall and had an izi win
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>>159712569
that's called democracy, you live in a country that claims to have it. maybe move to Saudi Arabia.
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>>159714179
So salty, my friend.
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>>159714352
KEK stay mad
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>Butcher still isn't nerfed
Yep, this is why I play other MOBAs
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>>159714726
>he's bronze
You shouldn't play any mobas.
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>>159714726
AHAAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA
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>>159714726
Holy shit, anon. I'm not sure if you understand or if that's an elaborate epic troll post. I like it.
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>>159714405
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>>159693927
>he will probably be a great second-warrior option
great, another one of those """tanks""", just what we desperately needed.
>>
I feel as if Rag should have been a specialist, with more of a focus on his trait (lower CD, more artillery) Instead of yet ANOTHER assassin.
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>>159715227
>game has 3 actual tanks, one of which is 2nd tier (Johanna)
>game has 3 usable healers, one of which is very situational (Uther for front-heavy comps)
>game has 5 trillion "bruisers" and "off supports"
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>>159715274
but everyone wants to be an assassin anon, specialists don't do any damage after all!
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>>159715227
Anon, what if the plan is not to add more viable solo tanks, but remove them altogether and leave us with 20 or so bruiser variants?
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>>159656110
compare to any discussion on /v/
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where can i see the map rotation
also why is this game so ded
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>>159716584
All the maps are on rotation
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>>159716123
Can you give a tl:dr version please?
I don't feel like reading an essay right now.
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>>159716584
There is no map rotation atm, everthing is in. Except Haunted Mines because its not updated yet.
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>>159715614
Zagara deals a lot of damage, more than a lot of the bruiser heroes.
Medivh can get really nasty, too.
Sure, they can't stand up to fucking Samuro or Li Ming, but they have enough damage to substitute an assassin rather well. Not every specialist is fucking Murky.
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>>159717695
that was a joke anon
azmodan, hammer, zagara, medivh, sylvanas are all great
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>>159716839
>wooow i like stuff
>me too :D

It's a shit discussion because they aren't calling each other faggots twice per post.
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>>159717832
>sylvanas
>grear at anything other than wasting valuable semen with her barren womb
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>>159718013
>can do her raw and don't have to take responsibility
what's not to like?
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>>159718223
>do her raw
>your dick falls off
>parts of her fall off
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>>159718223
>don't have to take responsibility
You're implying I would? Fuck no, Raynor or some other beta could raise those brats. I'm just a knockup fetishist.
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>>159718303
>knockup fetishist
i think desert queen zagara is the best choice for you
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>>159718419
Yo mandibles and deer pussies s
are degenerate territory. Anything beyond necro/furry/mpreg is just too extreme.
But Kerrigan is still in the hitzone.
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>>159717834
Thanks faggot
>>
This game's okay to play every once in a while but it will never be competitive. Hero balance is a fucking joke and it feels like an arcade game cookie cutter with no counterplay.

This game will forever be in the awe of LoL and Dota 2 in terms of popularity. It's an "okay" game though to play every once in a while.
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>>159719081
ya ok his right u know....
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>>159719081
wouldn't even bother playing it. it's not fun and a huge waste of time.
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>>159719081
lol and dota are boring farming simulators though
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>>159719429
BUT BUT BUT HIGH SKILL CAP!

ESPORTS TOLD ME THEY HAVE HIGHER SKILLCAPS SO THEYRE BETTER!
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>>159719081
Well fuckin no shit. It's Blizzard. They're infamous for copying games that take skill and making them into casual shit fests.

World of Warcraft, Diablo, Hearthstone, Heroes of the Storm, Overwatch, etc. Everything they do is to appeal to soccer moms who like spending money.
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>>159719081
Balance is better than LoL and DotA.

>inb4 hurr shill
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>>159720083
Damn, look at this guy. Hes so tough and hardcore!
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Is arthas one of those warriors that should be called bruiser or can he actually tank?
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Best girl.
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>Varian coming to HotS
>our homeboy Garrosh still nowhere to be found
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>>159720390
Pretty much a Bruiser. His peel is good, but he has to talent for hard CC. Tanks who actually tank generally have hard CC built in, whereas Arthas baseline just kind of slows and self-heals a lot.
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>>159720583
He's pretty girly alright.
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>>159720643
Fuck off orc cucks, we need more alliance.
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>>159720083

WOW anon, can you show me all your epixx super kool archi dark hardkorxxx VIDEOGAMES you play? I want to be hardcore too, but my mom won't let me. ; _ ;
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>>159720643

Friendly reminder that VALEERA is already confirmed to be the 4th hero we'll get these weeks.

You'll have to deal with it. :( But well, at least your aren't Maiev fag. Now that's NEVER EVER.
>>
paladin when
sorceress when
amazon when
assassin when
mephisto when
baal when
andariel when
duriel when
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>>159721586
>diablo
isn't that a game for spics or something
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>>159721586
Uther
Jaina
Futa
There are many
the rest are generic memes
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>>159721714
none of these are anything like the diablo 2 characters
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>>159720210
it really isn't, at least that samuro hero is definitely not balanced


Haven't played hots in a while but I played a few games today and holy shit what an annoying hero. How did that get through the ptr?
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>>159721586
What do you want the most? What kind of a kit would they even have?
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>>159721665
that game director is gone. it's now for middle aged, balding, paunchy white guys.
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There has been a lot of talk of bruisers, but I am curious, do the characters we call Bruisers simply excel at that because we talent them that way?

What if there is a solid solo tank build that we just miss because people don't usually pick that character to solo tank and therefore go for a different build?

Also, Chen and Stitches are solo tanks, right? Stitches is undertuned, but I think saying this game only has ETC, Mura and Joh is wrong.
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Does Samuro need to be nerfed?

Does any character need to be nerfed right now?
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>>159722108
>What kind of a kit would they even have?
i feel like this is more of a luxury problem, seeing that there are so many options to choose from

>paladin
melee bruiser
trait = switching between offensive and defensive auras
skills = smite, charge and zeal
ultimates = blessed hammer and holy shield

>sorc
ranged assassin
trait = something like energy shield or warmth
skills = one spell for each tree, like hydra, frost nova and lightning
ultimate = choice between frozen orb, meteor or static field

>assassin
melee assassin duh
trait = combo points
skills = fade, a charge skill and a finisher that can be skilled in different ways
ultimates = death sentry and shadow warrior

>amazon
ranged assassin
trait = one of her passives
skills = lightning bolt, plague javelin and decoy
ultimates = valkyrie or multiple charges of lightning fury

the bosses seem more straight forward since their kits aren't that big
i'd make mephisto ranged assassin, baal ranged specialist, andariel melee assassin and duriel melee warrior
>>
Shadow Priest hero when?
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>>159723873
>Paladin
>it's a fucking crusader which is already in the game
>Assassin
>literally a WoW rogue
>Amazon
>lunara with a decoy, already a skin
>more stupid generic demons
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What the hell did they do to him? Why does he look so awful?
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>>159724151
paladin would be way more offensive than johanna
guess you could make the assassin more trap focused to differentiate her from wow rogues (even though we don't even have anyone like that)
just because amazon uses javelins doesn't mean she would be lunara, ditch her poison skill and add a high damage melee jab and you're good to go

these were all suggestions based on their skill trees, they'd have like 40 skills to choose from when building each hero

>stupid generic demons
literally fuck right off
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>>159724326
You find change offensive, even though turning a circle with a jack o lantern face into a skull is completely sensible.
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>>159724428

The jack o lantern face looks objectively better.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KVdTQldQCE
9:24

Ok, there was too many Blizz dev's in those streamer videos who let Zul'jin slip of their tongues. He's absolutely confirmed coming and really soon, if you had any doubt.

I'm just worried what his kit could be. Any other troll (Vol'jin, Sen'jin, Rokhan) could get some fun shaman/totem/curse abilities, but what could Zul'jin be? Another hateful melee assassin like Illidan, Zeratul or Grey? Or a generic WC2 axetrower basic ranged AA?
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drop 10k on Auriel? Y/N
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>>159724642
definitely
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>wowfags will prefer this
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>>159724671
>those feet
Ahahahaha
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>>159724642
yes, quick, before you read >>159670481
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>>159723438
Yeah samuro needs a nerf definitely, malf could probably use a nerf as well.
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>>159724619
LOL
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>>159724795
>>159724795
>malf
>nerf
L E L
Holy shit. Supports as a whole need a bit of love.

>>159723438
Samuro's illusions are the only issue. Slight damage and/or health nerf or so I'd think.

I think his Bladestorm should deal higher damage but remove the Unstoppable. Should be a good risk:reward skill.
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>>159724642
Yeaaah, do it, it's a solid healer. Basically Uther v2. What's the worst that could happen.
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>>159724738
>friends
>30 games
I don't see it happening.
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>>159724619
There was another hots designer review by where the guy said something along the lines of "I hope you like melee assassins, because that's all we have planned until the end of this year."
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>>159724619
That's a huge stretch.
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>>159724991
Well that's Varian and Rag, rag in december I don't think they are adding another character after those until January
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>>159725024
But that's just only one. There were like 2 other who similarly let it slip somehow in an interview and tried to keep their cool and just ignore it.

And then there was that guy at Dep Dive Panel Q&A who straight asked if Zul'jin is coming soon and the dev said "Well, did you see that Amani War Bear mount in the video...?"
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>>159725058
They could easily add another one late December.
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>>159724967
wait, do you need to do 30 with a friend?
the post makes it look like 15 with a friend and 30 total
>complete 30 matches during the challenge
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>>159724967
Wtf anon
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>>159725172
We're indeed only counting matches played with people on your contacts list.
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>>159725308
b-but all my friends already quit
>blizzard literally cucking me out of free stuff
why is this allowed
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>>159725127
>And then there was that guy at Dep Dive Panel Q&A who straight asked if Zul'jin is coming soon and the dev said "Well, did you see that Amani War Bear mount in the video...?"
kek

Got a video of it? That'd be amusing.
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>>159722047
They nerfed him since ptr already. His winrate went from like 63% down by a whopping -one- percent already.
Blizz hard at work.
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>>159725481
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZY8TBT0J2s

53:37
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>>159725686
I look fucking awful on that video. Never should've gone.
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>>159725138
They won't, they are on vacation until the end of the year
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>>159725765
>>159725308
I love that meme that some of /hotsg/ are Blizzard employees
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>>159724671
Only the face. As explained in the last thread, the face isn't bad. The model could stand on its own, were it a generic fire elemental, or some OC that was Rag's spawn or something. However, Ragnaros has an iconic face. The new face doesn't even look like it's grinning, because it ends at the mouth. It's a generic skull, basically, and lacks the facial structure Rag did. It didn't have to be the same jack-o-lantern face, but it had to at least look like his. The horns would have been great on his normal face.

Imagine if they took Illidan and removed his blindfold, gave him bright blue anime eyes and a perpetual smirk. It's still Illidan in theme and character, model and everything, except the face is different because of some artistic liberty, because, let's say, Illidan was in this anime one time as a guest character??? And they're trying to take from all sources. Kind of like the defense that he looks more like the generic firelords from WC3, which is somehow a good thing to defenders of the change.
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>>159725918
You should've seen the bowlcut anon the other day
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>>159725958
>Imagine if they took Illidan and...
or look at what they did to the D2 necromancer
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>>159726125
??
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>>159725958
I think I argued with you about this yesterday and you used this exact argument. And you know, you are right. It is a departure. I guess I didn't see it because I never really experienced Rag back then.

I get your sentiment, though I hope it doesn't stop you from playing the hero.

Honestly, I'm day one-ing Lil Rag anyway, so the skull head doesn't affect me unless I buy the Master skin. I like the Lightlord tint.
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>>159726276
Xul is still miles better representation than the shit necro they prepared for ACTUAL Diablo3
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>>159726276
Nothing wrong with Xul other than his Master Skin not being boney enough.
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>sylvanas is ugly as fuck in wc3
>somehow turns into hot qt babe in wow
Sure obvious who they pander to in WeW.
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>>159726284
It definitely won't stop me, I just hope it doesn't happen so blatantly again. It probably will, I just didn't expect it to happen to Ragnaros of all heroes.
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>>159726571
>implying hot qt
i think your gay anon
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>>159726571
Ugly as fuck? Her knockers could smother a man.
>>
Samuro is a fag.
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>>159726839
cold qt, even better
anon likes tsundere
>>
>>159720583
Sonya is for _____.
Well /hotsg/?
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>>159726931
He said ugly not flat.
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>>159726949

Cumslave
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>>159726949
Crushing enemies before you.
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>>159726949
asking to show penis or gtfo my board
>>
Who the hell though of giving Samuro a skill that can blink+cloak+increase movement speed ?

Also fuck that unstoppable whirwind.
>>
>illusion master
kek
>>
>>159726434
him dualwielding his onehanded meme scythe with a dagger was a mistake
actual necro aesthetics = wand or dagger with homunculus or boneshield
>>
What support is most fun to play as? Besides Tyrande obviously.
>>
>>159725958

>muh blue anime eyes!

I fucking cringe every single time; same as yesterday. Is so obvious you are one of these disgusting fat manchildren that actually believe that piece of generic garbage look cool.

It looked like trash before, it looks like a fucking colored mount now. Ragnaros was NEVER, EVER cool. Same for the garbage of Muhzad, but who cares.
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>>159727468
rehgar and kharazim
>>
>*Windwalks behind you*
>*Pops mirror images*
>*Critically hits you twice in a row*
>*Changes to one of the images and moves to safety*

psst... taste my blade, kid.
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>>159727551
>changes to one of the images
Useless if they're not attacking, as they should be.
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>>159723101
To be a good solo tank a hero needs
1. peel
2. survivability
3. and a way to initiate
in that order.

The heroes you mentioned have all that, that's why they are good main tanks.
Chen has no stuns and only one slow, he can't prevent a diver to fuck your backline. Same with Stitches, the hook is a fantastic initiating tool bit it's also his only form of peel except for a slow he has to talent for.
Every off tank is great if he has at least another off tank, so their combined peel is enough to stave off attacks.

Lots of warriors simply cannot talent into having all three aspects. Anub with double stuns has plenty off initiating and peel, though that requires landing your stuff, but he's really fucking squishy as a lone tank.
Artanis cannot ever talent to get initiating power (though he'll have it soon) and he has no peel at all. He's stuck at bruising because that's what he's designed for.
Diablo is just sad. But with just a few cooldown reductions on shadow charge and overpower he'd be a great main tank.

Do note that you don't NEED a main tank though. Lot's of assassins and specialists also have abilities to disrupt and stop your enemy team from doing whatever they want.
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>>159727472
Woah, projecting a bit there.
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>>159727551
>they never expect the burst from free crits
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Jaina really looks like a dumb whore in the battle net launcher.
Is Blizzard trying to tell us something?
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>>159724382
>more stupid generic hoomains
Yeah you fuck off.
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>>159726571
>Sylvanas
>ugly in WC3
The fuck is wrong with you?
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>>159727719
kys my man
>>159727673
>tfw we'll probably see thrall + samuro earthquake / merciless strakes cancer comps soon
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>>159727714
yes, that she's a dumb whore
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>>159727551
>*Changes to one of the images and moves to safety*
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>>159727628
I thought the way Chen stops divers is diving over them and body blocking.
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>>159727907
>but i c-can't fap if it's not my original nameless generic human characters
Man up and stop being in the closet. Demonic arses and horny faces and fangs and claws and tentacles are good. You need some variety in your life.
>>
>>159728226
what the fuck are you even talking about
did you read the original posts?
i asked for andariel, duriel, mephisto and baal along with the diablo 2 heroes
>>
LE SAMURO OP

I REALLY FELT THE NEED TO SAY THIS AM I THE ONLY ONE GUYS
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>>159728726
gj
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>>159728726
>le samuro is not op
>i really felt the need to say this am i the only one guys
>>
>>159728726
well I think most agree that he's the most annoying cunt we've seen added to the game in quite some time.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPE9dzzgt2U&feature=youtu.be

Kara the new best melee assassin?
>>
>>159728726
He really is bringing out the shitters who can't deal with him.
>>
>>159729290
>CTRL+F
>KPE9
>>
HES OP GUYS IT CANT BE STRESSED ENOUGH

ANYONE AGREE WITH ME
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>>159729803
>>159728726
>>159729370

Samuro mains are the most obnoxious people
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>>159730073
>samuro mains
>implying i can even get to play him

qm shitters everywhere
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Why aren't you stomping QM as Tracer and getting MVP every game RIGHT NOW?
>>
When I want to stomp qms I just go as jaina, otherwise the only reason I play qm is to level heroes.
>>
Why is every game so one-sided?
Either we are steamrolling the enemy or we are getting bent over and anally fucked like a bunch of cheap whores, but never an even match
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>>159730482
Because I usually get placed against hammer, raynor and other tracer while my team is meme masters only.
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>>159730482

>pick tracer
>other team has Zeratul and hammer
>only constant
>hammer does 1/4 of my HP every shot
>our team has no Frontline or tank is literally retarded so hammer has free shots on me every fight
>lose
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>>159731136
Because you're in silver or equal.
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Why am I banning in plat 2 when there is a diamond 4 on me team?
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>>159727472
>Ragnaros was NEVER, EVER cool.
>Same for the garbage of Muhzad
how to spot someone who both never played wc3/early wow and has terrible aesthetic sense
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You guys should watch hide on twitch his muradin is pretty insane
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whats your fav skin mount combo?
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>>159732613
I'll check it out. Too bad I don't enjoy watching shitspeakers.
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>>159733350
He doesn't really talk that much which is nice too so it's mostly just gameplay
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>>159733473
There's the chat on the screen and I want to know what they're saying damn it.
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>tfw getting a lot of ~30 minute games lately
le league of shitters now
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>>159734461
>hey lets NOT end the game right here
>lets get the bruiser camp
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>>159734880
>no, I've got a better idea
>let's take the boss and die to the enemies who have just respawned
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>>159735126
But at least a boss can contribute to ending the game, a bruiser camp however is a waste of time.
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>>159734880

This shit drives me up the wall. I absolutely hate kills 3 enemy heroes and then our fucking tank and healer 360 walk away and start grabbing siege camps back by our base or leave smacking the core to go stand on one of the charge stations on Braxxis.

Fuck.
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>>159733239
Bit obvious. But still looks good.
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>>159735490
Stupid people. No idea what else it could be. Literally the reason I quit the game before.
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>>159733239
Chromie on Bronze pig.
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In the blizzcon state of the game panel they said that these heroes all had talent reworks. What reworks did Tyrande get? Her talents have literally been the same forever except some nerfs at the beginning of the year.
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>>159735946
So most Chromies.
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>>159736278
I never said it was original.

I also like final tint stitches on the pink eyepad.
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>>159736207
I think they are talking about when they added healing to the shadow walk ulti and some other minor buffs to healing talents
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>>159736207
They changed her to be more healerlike by turning her ult upside down. The other deals more damage. She did get a full rework last year however.
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>>159736591
That's not really a talent rework. The only thing they did was slightly buff her base healing and add a slight heal to shadowstalk and took away the enemy reveal.

>>159736654
Her talents have been the same since the alpha, she is still only half a healer. The only thing that was every really changed on her was shadowstalk not revealing enemies anymore but providing a small hot. She still has a ton of generic talents like sprint, shrink ray, mule, healing totem, protective shield, rewind etc. She's never received a "full rework" just some nerfs to a few talents and some slight healing buffs. Other than shadowstalk the only thing that was changed since alpha on her that was noticable was at 13 the overflowing light talent use to be "when over 90% life increases the heal of elune's grace by 50%" which was a joke talent.
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>>159737042
yeah yeah ok so your a nigger so what go away
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>>159736654
>She did get a full rework last year however

when was that?
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>>159735528
that's pretty cool, judgement set :D

>>159735946
I hate Chromie.
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>>159737365
He's considering the added heal to shadowstalk a full rework
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Holy fuck why is the ban system in ranked like it is. It should either be a vote, or the highest rank player. I'm actually fucking astounded people are this retarded. No, they're not going to pick 2 healers in Silver, and if they do- who even fucking cares. No need to ban healers after first pick Malfurion.
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>>159737646

oh thats retarded
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>>159700291
>ming on her improved skin
oh yes, tactical exposure is the best
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>>159737673
it IS the player with the highest mmr who gets to ban
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>>159737780
dear GOD, why are these players so fucking dumb then.
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>>159737851
you already said it, it's silver
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>>159737673
It doesn't get better in plat
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>>159737673
>tfw have to ban all the time because of my fat ass mmr even though i havent played in months
>is still fine to just ban li mong and malf all the time anyway

hotsbabs?
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>>159737365
I believe I'd remember something around the start of the beta. Nowadays it just looks like a basic balance patch, but I think it's the one that started this all, before they got confident with changing the heroes and throwing in new perks and abilities.
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>>159738205
There's also a patch from the start of this year where they said
>Tyrande has been hovering around our radar for longer than we would like, but we needed to take some time to figure out exactly where we wanted to make changes. We are happy with how versatile her kit is, but feel she does everything a bit too well, especially since she thrives in the current stun-driven meta. We have changes targeted at improving her talent diversity while forcing her to rely a bit more on talents for damage or healing output. We are taking a cautious approach here, but are more than willing to make larger changes, if necessary.
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>>159738395
That was just the nerf patch where they nerfed her talents a little bit, like rangers mark going down from 8 second CD reduction to 6, and huntress's fury going from 30% attack speed to 40% and nerfing the distance on lunar blaze to a 40% increase. That wasn't a rework it was just nerfs and a slight buff to her aa build despite nerfing her base aa damage.
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soo
there's no NA patch yet?
there will be one at all today?
I just can't belive they aren't gonna nerf samuro this week
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>>159738735
I hope Tyrande gets removed from the game.
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>>159738915
Nerf what, I'm a shitter and he's not that bad to deal with
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>>159738915
They usually do the nerf patches on Wednesdays maybe we would get patch notes today but it probably won't be for another week that they touch samuro, he's actually buffed on the ptr
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>>159739145
i wouldnt know exactly how to nerf him either but hes a little too good at everything
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>>159739426
Give his clones less health is all that I can really think of
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>>159739273
everyone assumed he was gonna be nerfed today/tomorrow because he wasn't nerfed on the PTR, that's why I am asking
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>>159739145
>I'm a shitter
I can see that.
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>>159739426
I feel that his crits need to be weaker, he might need even less health since he has a cleanse on command, and his clones could have their health and damage cut. But what do I know. We'll see how overboard they go.
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>>159739924
>he thinks he's not a shitter
It's okay anon it's only HoTS, it's not like this game is competitive or anything
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>there are people in this thread even at this very moment who have less than 150k gold
Do you kids even play this game?
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>>159740449
I started about 2 months ago so yeah not that often, sucks not being a neet
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>>159740573
You don't even get that much gold from the matches themselves, so neeting doesn't really change much. Takes like fucking 4 hours to even get 200 gold.
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Reminder that there is a Discord server for this general with a resident mentally ill Canadian man who will adamantly say he's a girl.
Come join in the fun folks

https://discord.gg/28pEC7H
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>>159739498
>>159740045
this and maybe give him an extra second or two of cd if he cant keep them alive for more than a couple seconds. i hate how samuro can just throw them out with no real risk or anything when they are so useful for ganking, blocking and sieging
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>>159740821
Thank god I'm new, the 500 gold at 5 has helped me collect a good reserve, though not as much as I'd like
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>>159741003
Level 9 is where the money's at, however that's 50 games in, for each hero.
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>>159740902
>Discord

I'd rather castrate myself than go use that reddit program.
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>>159741434
P-pics?
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>>159741187
How much for level 9?
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>>159741474
Come ask him for some, he'll gladly show you cropped pictures readily available on the internet
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>>159741187
after 7 it gets so obnoxious if you figure out that you dislike the hero

still miles ahead of league though
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So, is Varian a bit underwhelming? I've admittedly only messed around with him in Try Mode, but even there, I seemed pretty mana hungry and not all that tanky.
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>>159741560
>>159741686
1250 gold for 5 and 9 together. Pretty good when you get ~30 heroes at that point.

After 7 the xp slows down so much, but I've found that during that time you keep learning new things that might make you love a hero and keep playing.

Or make you hate it.
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>>159742253
His dps seems like a weaker samuro without escapes
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>>159742285
thats true but kind of rare. like zarya grew on me but leveling tass sucked.
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>>159742253
He's not a tank and you can't really make him one even though his talents give him literally +50% hp. He's more like Sonya I'd say.
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>>159742454

Varian has sustain though, he doesn't need an escape.
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>>159742594
Man, that just means everyone is gonna go the assassin route and we just have a weirdo thrall.

I wanted a new warrior. Oh well. I like how short the cooldown is on Taunt, but you literally can't tell what it does in try mode.
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>>159743491
Eh, pretty much the conclusion I've come to too. Taunt is able to interrupt any channels, so I guess that's a situational thing.
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>>159743491
>>159743568
after all the "multiclass hero" propaganda I'm sure that if one spec isn't good enough they'll buff it in no time
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>>159743657
They'll be going from one side to another, we'll be having an interesting hero for a good while.

Talking about multi-classes, I wonder if they'll do the same to Zul'jin. Just, from a two armed ranged assassin to a one armed melee assassin.
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>>159743821
>"at level 10 zul'jin can choose to chop off his fucking arm to gain an increase to his attack damage"
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>>159743657
Sure, but you know Blizz, that just means they'll nerf the good spec.

We'll see though. Too early to be doomsaying. What I would love is a hero I can queue up in QM with and feel comfortable picking whatever role I feel our comp needs.

I love his parry giving full protection with that talent.
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>>159738915
They said they were. That they were nerfing his damage some time this week. They normally release small patches on wed.
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> Play Morales
> Teammates realize they can do stupid shit and I can heal them back to full in 3 seconds
> Continue to do stupid shit
> Lose my entire mana pool + fountain in the first 3 minutes
I should have bought Samuro.
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What the fuck is this "You were dropped" shit? This isn't how I usually get disconnected and it doesn't even give me the option of reconnecting.
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>>159744430
Haha. =^) Whats your favourite color
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just faced varian with taunt and warbringer as illidan. not fun boys
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>>159743896
>that's the actual description
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>>159744921
git gud
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hey guys, i reccently started to play with other 3 friends, im not very related to mobas, currently lvl 7 and im fond of assasins as far as i played, any guidelines or advice? some heroe you recomend i save my gold for?
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>>159745007
you know where `git gud` is still funny? reddit
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>>159745018

>>159745007
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>>159745018

Great to assassins to learn the game with would be Thrall, Valla, Jaina, and Guldan. I'd recommend watching MFPALLYTIME for general how to play tips and map awareness and talent suggestions.
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>>159745018
All I can say is the 2K costing heroes are just as good as the more expensive ones. Go for quantity over quality.
>>159745117
I don't think he was trying to be funny.
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>>159745280
what was he trying anon
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>>159745018
every hero is viable, especially at lower levels
go to the shop, see if there's a hero that catches your eye and click the try button to see if you enjoy playing it
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>>159745459
That if Varian brings you any trouble as Illidan, I believe there's something wrong with the player.
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>>159745117
you know you should git gud anon?
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>>159745590
>get charged
>get taunted
>unable to pop evasion
>get killed before youre able to react/escape/pop evasion/regain control
>get focused down like a bitch

>>>>git gud
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>>159745752
Sorry, but I wish you were kidding.
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>>159745841
i wish i had realised things cant be discussed even half seriously here before the memes start rolling in
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>>159746001
Git gud the next time bronzelord.
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>>159746001
The charge stun is 0.5 seconds, Taunt lasts for 1.25s. If that kills you, you're playing the wrong hero class.
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>>159746001
>"I die in 1.5 seconds" the player
Hint, don't fucking dive so deep you cunt.
Literally the same thing happens if you try that shit with a Muradin or Uther or any other character with a stun or root.
If that little timeframe is enough to get blown to bits, you were focused because you went in alone. Get fucked you feeding cuntshitter.
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>>159746764
You could've just shortened that to "git gud". I like that you know how the game works and how to learn from your fucking mistakes.
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>>159746109

Hey now >>159679474
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>>159745135
Nice meme friend, but /v/ is the other way
>>159745197
>>159745280
>>159745529
Thx guys nice advice i really appreciate it
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>>159747658
Also learn to stutterstep with attack move. Enable quickcast and get used to it early. The latter is subjective but it really helps you throw in an extra attack every so often.
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Haven't played in a few months, what is this brawl?
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>>159748067
>brawl queue pops
>says I don't have the map
>game bugs out
>restart
>currently trying to rejoin the game I didn't have the map for earlier
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>>159748067
Which one? Brawl is just a special game mode for a free thousand gold and portrait every two weeks or so.

Right now it is ARAM.
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>>159748067
It's the mode they teased a year ago... Just, not it.
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>>159748550
>>159748985
Yeah looks like the worst mode they have come up with so far
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>>159749427
Hey, 1000 free gold per week. That's like a hearthstone packs worth.
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>>159749427
you fags will complain about everything... they could literally drop 5k gold in your accounts every week and you would still find a way to complain about it.
fucking millennials...
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Why do people cry about everything?
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>>159750015
Is that from Reddit? Fucking wimps.
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>>159750015
get the fuck back to plebbit
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>>159750015
why do people like that instantly jump at the chance to defame someone?

wtf? theres a nerd term for those kinds of people right
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>>159750468
Jealousy. Same for the guy who called out the leaker.
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>>159749705
>>159749928
Gold is always nice but the game mode itself is shit
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>>159750468
Because they are massive faggots. That person should probably be making posts every time someone says something mean in chat during one of his games or drafting sessions as well, otherwise he's just a hypocrite as well.
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>>159750860
It's random, and random is shit. Can't argue with that.
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>>159750468
To be fair he did call your favorite hero shit.
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>250 seconds in queue and counting
I see they haven't fixed the queues
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>>159752749
Yeah, GM hero league tends to be like this.
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>>159752749
>get bad teammates or get destroyed by opponents
cry about match making
>game try to match with skill set so the game is more enjoyable for him
cry about queue time

2016 gaming for you, millenials never happy
c
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>finally break 6 game losing streak by getting MVP as Auriel putting in WORK
>0 votes
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>>159752749
Just play hs while waiting
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>>159750015
>Absolutely anybody else does it
>wow what a jerk lol oh well
>Somebody of note does it
>WE NEED TO LYNCH THIS MOTHERFUCKER, WOW, HE'S SUCH A BAD EXAMPLE!

People have shared this mentality since the inception of the whole concept of fame. Not to say Chu8 is FAMOUS, just that he's somebody within the public eye to some extent, and that's good enough. No idea what's with people and holding others that they just sit there and LOOK at, to a higher standard than everyone else. Holding them up on a pedestal and all that shit.

Sad thing is, you can't call them out on this shit or you'd just get downvoted or something. Hate Reddit's horrible system.
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>>159752994
not an argument
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>>159752994
The problem is, this game is doing both at the same time
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>>159748985
>feelsbadman.jpg
I was so stoked for it too, when they announced it
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>>159753725
What part of it were you looking forward to?
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>>159748985
it's literally what they announced last year + other stuff
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>>159754109
Well not fucking 10x hammer that's for sure.
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>>159743821
Ranged assassin into melee assassin isn't multiclass. It's still just an assassin
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>>159754564
They would've announced him now if they actually had two of the similar mechanics cooking.
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>>159743821
Blizz please, don't make Zul'jin another fucking AA assassin, I'm so sick of those. We need more supports and specialists.
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>>159754881
They specifically said "I hope you like assassins because it's all we've got for the next few heroes"
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So you can vote however much you want on the ptr
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>>159754994
He said that's what he thought when people made all the threads about no new melee assassins before Alarak came out. Alarak, Samuro, Varian, Ragnaros; thats a shitload of melee assassins for less that a half year of releases. Of course Zul'jin will be assassin, but my smallest hope is that he'll be ranged. But I'll more than welcome him being a specialist.
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>>159753176
>tfw no insecure supportbitch bf
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>>159755196
I like the idea. Better than the nothing the voting screen is now.
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>>159750015
>now that blizzard has this knowledge they MUST act on it
>The guy saying 'troll8' was a dick and if all Chu did was report him or even if he flamed him I would have not minded Chu's actions
why are kids these days offended by literally anything?
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>>159755474
They want the upvotes on reddit
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>>159755349
Well...
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>>159755289
Zul'jin throws axes. He's the Warcraft 2 troll in looks and gameplay.

Well, if my knowledge from literally fucking 5 years ago holds true.
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>play two quick memes
>completely one sided games
I was thinking of coming back but guess not
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>>159755979
Play Unranked Draft.
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>>159756027
So I can rage at the last pick murkys or nobody picking healer on top of it being a one sided game?
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>>159755979
>doesn't' counter pick (unranked draft)
>let luck decide
>cry about one-sided games
well you need a working brain to play this game so yes, it might not be for you
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>>159756189
Yeah it doesn't seem like anyone else playing the game has a working brain
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>>159756115
NA Bronze everybody. I'm sorry, anon.
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>>159755901
And what would be the gimmick of troll axethrower?
Rapid regeneration? A less mobile Lunara but with Muradin's/Morales'/Dehaka's trait?
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>play with your friends to earn heroes for free
>tfw nofriends
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>>159756396
Actually diamond so that puts me in the top 15% players or something. Too bad even diamond is nothing impressive which means the pool of players is filled with retards
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>This guy keep on asking us to pay attention in game while he was the one who last picked a second healer.
Its so funny I'm not even mad
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>>159756430
Could have an insane health regeneration for an assassin, can trade receiving more damage for a faster throw rate, can throw webs to root people, have a passive aura for an increased attack range... Whatever fits a character like this.

Looking forward to what they come up with.
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>icons of heroes you don't own are slightly coloured instead of being completely greyed out
neat
i love these small qol changes they apply to the UI once in a while
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>>159757692
What? Pictures?
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I did it reddit. I finally hit bronze 5 only took me about 25 or so games to throw
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>>159758124
proud of you son
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>>159758124
I don't believe you
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>>159758029
the hero page arrows are also slightly more visible now
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>>159758124
I'd love a screenshot.
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Got 10k, haven't played in a while. Should I grab alarak, chromie or samuro?
I'm more interested in alarak, anyone play him?
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>>159758453
Maybe a bit too bright. Maybe the others need a glow.
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>>159758621
Alarak is hard to play well, go with samuro the only thing hard about him is illusion master.
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>>159758621
alarak is pretty good , sustain and bulky melee assain, but is like kerrigan , if you dont hit your combo , you are a potato in the team.
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>>159740902
Reminder you can join my meme speak server where we don't let in mentally ill Canadian fat fucks who pretends to be a grill and have the fucking admin white knight him to safety
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>>159759246
Gucci mane what happened lad?
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Fresh OC coming right up
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>>159759468
Oh some drama on the /vg/ discord server. I'll post proof of my bronze 5 soon
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>>159760919
I saw your meme pic of your bronze 5 fgt
What was the drama? All I saw was you ponder if he weighed 280 lmfao
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>>159760814
That deal damage baseline, give him a small escape on top of is stealth escape.


I do not fucking understand why they haven't RE-reworked Nova yet, same with Gazlowe and Murky. It's weird considering they're really on top of Kharazim, as he's getting a rework just as it became blatantly apparent that he fell off.
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>>159760814
nice
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>>159761018
>That deal damage baseline, give him a small escape on top of is stealth escape.
they also provide a self cleanse
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>>159758453
What is Blizz going to do when they run out of space for heroes?
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>>159761320
The same thing they've done ever time.
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>>159761320
Do you see those arrows in the top corners?
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>>159761217
.... That still hasn't been removed? Thank fucking god I haven't played lately.
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>>159760814
G R E E N E D
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>>159761609
Why remove it? It's intended because pressing Q to not die is skillful. Stop being a spoilsport and buy Samuro and have fun too!

I honestly think the cleanse would be fine if he didn't hit like a truck from three directions at once. Just fucking nerf his damage by 20% overall. 1.5k DPS is absolutely not ok.
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>>159762407
It should at least be stated in the tool tip that it cleanses those effects if that's intended, like tracers recall.
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>Quick Match Draft Syndrome
The syndrome in which your unranked or hero league game is plagued by a team picking a bizarre, quick-match-esque composition.

>The QMDS Corollary
There is a positive correlation between the stupidity and hopelessness of a team comp and its chances of somehow winning.
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proof lads of my bronze 5
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>UD
>we're level 8, enemy is 10
>temple lights up
>i say `10` in chat, ping retreat on the temple and keep soaking
>3 stack just goes in and dies
>5 minutes later
>enemy is 13 we're 11
>temples light up
>i say `13` in chat, ping retreat on top temple and head towards the bottom one
>3 stack goes to the top temple and dies
>after this, the 3 stack goes absolutely livid
>malfurion starts spamming random 2 digit numbers in chat
>anubarak starts feeding
>li ming starts talking about IQ
>we lose under 14 minutes
>anubarak is platinum 5
>im masters

i don't give a fuck, im just sorry for lunara, she didnt deserve this, she did her best. im also sorry for everyone who gets screwed over by this ebin mm system as well.
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>>159761013
well basically snipes found the instagram profile pic of that mentally ill faggot and we called him out on it so he changed the profile pic he originally had. we suspected he was the beta nu male cuck friend of that roastie in the phots. i didnt save them
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>>159766062
Is this the lowest you can get?
I've been doing pure quickmeme since beta.
>>
Lost cavern is the biggest mistake since activision
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>>159766062
lucky
bronze portrait is stylin' as fuck
>>
>Play Abathur
>Lose
Nice hero
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>>159767614
he was pretending to be retarded
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>>159766062
Disgusting. I refuse to believe you are a real human being
>>
>play azmodan
>win

nice
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STUCK
STUCK
STUCK
STUCK
STUCK
STUCK
STUCK
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>>159766062
Guccimeme, one day ill become good and carry you
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page 10 ?
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>>159775926
ded game ded thread ded life
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WAKE ME UP
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I've got 10k gold. Who do I buy next?

I'm thinking abathur. Two of my favorite heroes are bw and tlv.
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>>159776224
>samuro
u guys already won
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So /hotsg/, which map do you like the least?
Personally i fucking hate towers of doom
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>>159778073
Garden of terror is by far the most boring to me, but Blackheart's Bay is nothing but 'get an early lead and PVE for 18 minutes' , so B'sB Is my least favorite
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>>159778073
Blackheart's Bay is pure cancer.
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>>159776914

im blue, we got fucked so bad
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>You were dropped!
>no option to reconnect
>have to quit game, login again, resync with game 2 minutes later
>bot chose a shit talent in the meantime
>You were dropped! again 5 minutes later

nice game blizzcucks
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>>159781094
>you were dropped
>come back to find your bot on a killing spree
>still chose the shit talents
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>>159776808
Buy tyrande again
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>>159782227
How does her ass look in the master skin?
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>>159661776
>playing support
faggot
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Who is ready for that wall?
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>>159784480
What heroes would be needed for a full MAGA team? I know that Tassadar would be needed.
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>>159785591
Xul. Alarak to push people to the right side of the wall. Zarya can make a barrier they can't pass.
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>>159786178
What about the 5th member?
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>>159787461
Gazlowe to put a lot of guns on the wall?
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>>159785591
Need leo, he builds walls
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>>159787461
tyrael with the wall on q talent
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>>159783895
Amazing, she even puts her hair up so you can see her back
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all hail god emperor trump
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>>159791559
Does this mean Greymane is going to beat Sylvanas?
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>>159792716
It's going to be greatest feast ever.
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>>159793976
>trump wins
>Varian coming next week
>Christmas soon
Is there a greater time to be alive?
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>>159794046
Literally no.
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>>159794776
Look at the muslim-loving fag
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>>159795664
wtf i hate normal people now
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>>159794046
>>159793976
>>159784480

So, with all the spics and sandnigger GTFOing from USA, with everyone left speaking english, will we finally get in-game voice chat?
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>>159795717
Are't we getting voice chat anyway?
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>>159795712
Well, at least you're aware that loving refugees is abnormal. That makes you a little better than other lefties.
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>>159795717
Better match quality in an English enviroment, server stability, lower latency, less dropouts, less random matches... Man, what a time to be alive.
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>>159795873
Maybe you should actually read what he said, before going all Trump supporter over it and embarrassing yourself.
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>play zag
>solo lane opponent is nowhere to be seen (no nova/zera so not invis soaking)
>get free soak, free siege damage, free everything for a couple minutes
>for some fucking reason our anub rotates to my lane to "help"
The one time as a solo laner someone actually fucking rotates to help and it's when I literally haven't seen an enemy at all. It's not like Zag needs help pushing siege damage in the first place.
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i want my live patchnotes NOW REEEEEEEEE
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>>159796551
No patchnotes for you senpai
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>>159796551
Hello, we will be releasing a balance update to the live servers today, stay tuned for the patch notes.
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Confirmed for a balance patch today and not saving it for Varian release (next week)?
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>>159799464
Good shit, anon!
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>>159799603
they said they have some nerfs for samuro coming this week, most likely we'll get them today
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Why's cho'gall such a cunt bros?
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>>159799603
>>159799738
especially that Varian patchchanges literally BUFF Samuro (continous effects of in-stealth abilities even when revealed and way of illusion properly giving decoys bonus dmg)
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>>159799886
>continous effects of in-stealth abilities even when revealed
What do you mean? I haven't heard of these buffs before.

Also for Samuro, nerf his illusions. They're a massive part (and main part) of his survivability and damage.
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>>159799993
If a character is revealed in stealth by other ways than AoE dmg (Tassadar's trait, scouting drone, Rexxar's torch etc.) the stealth doesn't automatically turn off, it just doesn't cloak you for the time of reveal. So you don't loose things like increased movement speed on windwalk or that next attack will trigger vulnerability if you took that talent, and the stealth will instantly continue cloaking you once reveal time ends.
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What's the word on Varian? A mediocre assassin or an underwhelming tank?
Does his mortal strike/shield breaker make him viable?
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>>159800129
Oh, right, that's right. My mistake. That's awesome, too and the way it should be. Reveal should only reveal (wow) and not cancel cloak.

>>159800176
Mediocre hard-tank but godly bruiser/assassiny tank.
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>>159800129
>>159799993
oh, and if you have any in-stealth effects, like increased movement speed, then they also work when you get stealthed by other sources than your own abilities (Tyrande's ulti or Medivh's lvl20 talent)
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>>159800204
Real nice for Samuro--keeping your MS even when detected. Doubly so for me since I take the extra cloak level 1 talent.
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>>159799738
I don't think they said this week, I've only heard that they were going to nerf his damage but they never said when.
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>>159800190
Are his two bruiser modes balanced? I like the two-handed look and 3 sec vuln, but his other dps ult seems a bit stronger since you don't lose hp and proc his trait every other hit
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>>159799839
>Well it certainly wasnt our fault
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCK YOU CHO GALL IT FUCKING IS ALWAYS YOUR FAULT FUCKING FEEDER

I hate it when he says that
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>>159800575
It's a choice between burst or sustained dmg. You'll explode squishies with Two-handed and E stun talents, or you can stick to enemies for the enitre fight with twin blades.
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GAZLOWE REWORK CONFIRMED

Turrets have Tychus lvl attack speed now, new build

Mines are now basically aba mines that have to be manually detonated, more dps, new mine build

Laser becomes a new turret you place, it charges itself, aim with vector targetting

Robo goblin gives splash ranged AA, and small aoe rockets (like WC3 gaz)

Grav o bomb now explodes and stuns in a small area, then sucks people in in a large area

You heard it here first boys
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>>159800784
Thanks, sounds like I'll be dropping 15k on him
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>>159801018
Nice!
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>>159801018
>Laser becomes a new turret you place, it charges itself, aim with vector targetting

That actually sounds pretty cool. Too bad it's all bullshit.
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>>159801018
If thats true I'm gonna cum buckets, sounds good.
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>>159801018
Hello, we are looking at Gazlowe right now and while we realize that there are some issues with his kit we don't have any plans for a rework in the near future.
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>>159801332
wow i hate blizzard now
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Samuro nerf
Make Stitches great again
Don't make me feel bad for picking Brightwing
Buff Abathur

I think that's my entire complain list right now.
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>>159801734
>feel bad for picking Brightwing
?
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>>159801734
I feel that Abathur is a lost cause. They can't do much for him, unless they went as far as making the clone baseline.
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>>159801734
abathur is going to get indirectly buffed considering illidan will be borderline broken next tuesday
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>2016
>not taking haymaker

i seriously hope you lads don't do this
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>>159801975
>illidan will be borderline broken next tuesday
what? how?
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>>159802901
I'm actually not sure what the purpose of Avatar is any more.
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>>159803118
Talent rework. I haven't fiddled with him, but the Zeratul rework makes him less extreme bursty but gives some cool toys to stick to a target better. I think he'll also have better sustsin.
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>>159803147
It makes you huge and catch more skillshots and enemies must click the dwarf and stuff.
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>>159803602
I know he had some (minor) talent reowork but from what I've seen nothing that will make him OP or even really good (unless you are a korean I guess)
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>>159802901
Was playing tracer today and a fucking cunt muradin took haymaker just to cuck me and ruin my day
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Can you guys please send us your dev team? We're struggling over here at LoL.

At least your devs listen and implement QoL changes. You know what we get? Champion re-works that completely fuck up balance, jungle changes no one asked for and items that will make supports OP as fuck.

The HOTS team from what I've seen implements QoL changes and other changes based on feedback. The LoL team just does whatever the fuck they want and most of the time, it's shit nobody asked for.
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>>159804382
LoL took a few too many bites at once and now suffers from it. The meta's been all over the place for a while.
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>>159804579
Not that HotS doesn't have its top meta and complere shit heroes.
Diablo, Jimmy and Anub are left to rot despite other, newer heroes getting reworks as they fall behind.
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>>159804382

You can blame everything to the core game design. Being created based on a fan mod will fuck you up on the long run because of lack of quality. You'll be forever on that eternal loop of broken items.

Yeah the HotS team is really nice, this is why I can't stop playing it. See:

>>159804821

This guy is an idiot. Diablo, Jim and Anub are perfectly viable on the right comp. Specially Raynor; he can be a complete beast when supported right.
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>>159804821
Anub is a good Li Ming counterpick.
Almost every hero in HotS has their good niche.
Even Murky apparently has a good niche in a high winrate vs Samuro.
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>>159805796
>This guy is an idiot. Diablo, Jim and Anub are perfectly viable on the right comp. Specially Raynor; he can be a complete beast when supported right.
I'm sure he's talking about "pro" hots, where they are not viable. Pretty much all heroes are viable in hl though.
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>>159805796
I'd honestly blame League's problems on it's status as THE definitive e-sport.
It's been outright stated that Riot makes changes based on making League a better spectator sport and League's decline in quality started at around the same time as it's explosion into e-sports.
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>>159806292

Not really, the foundation of it (a fucking fan mod) cemented the gameplay forever. Is impossible to touch properly, no matter what you do or how. This is why talent trees are way better videogame design. They can tweak them without having fear of destroying the whole game for another class.

Riot developers already said (too lazy to quote source) they wish they could have the HotS design, since it actually makes sense. But yeah.
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>>159805950
I am.
I have plenty of fun memeing around as Cho'gall with a friend and still win half the time, but that doesn't mean he's a good from an objective viewpoint.
Like, compare Raynor to Valla.
Ranged AA Assassins with tank killer damage.
Valla has bigger range, more damage, better waveclear, more utility. The only thing Jimmy has over her is his zoning capability, other than that Valla is just a straight upgrade to him.

Like, why the fuck haven't they reworked his trait do be his adrenaline boost instead of "hurr 20% moar range XD" and give the guy another skill? So he's more than "right click and press W" the hero: the interactive cinematic experience"?
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>abathur disconnected since beginning of game
>4+abathur v 5
>we stall them for 20 minutes and win a bunch of team fights
These are the worst kind of games
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>>159803924
read the ptr patch notes
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START RUNNING
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Ah right, the Samuro patch notes.
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>>159812918
(^:
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>>159801936
what's wrong with the meme slug? the game we lost our tychus was some rando not from /vg/ and he was udder horseshit
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>tfw 90% win rate with Samuro
Ooooooh!
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>>159813338
You need a team built around him and that's a no no in solo queue QM. Also NOBODY on my team has been able to play him properly, or even grasp on the basic mechanics of the game. Shit sucks.
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>>159801936
>>159813338
Wasn't Aba picked during Championship's?
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>>159813998
If he was I bet they lost.
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>>159814067
ballistix won with abathur vs fnatic in group stage
mvp lost with abathur vs fnatic in semis

he's pretty popular in korea
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ded gaem
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diablo 2 heroes when
proper tanks when
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>still no patch
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fun and cute!
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>>159818682
>>159818996
>fat cosplayer doing it right for once
pretty gud
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>>159723438
Either Mirror Image needs to lose its Cleanse effect or Wind Walk needs to lose its grace period.
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>>159818682
>>159818996
>>159819248
C U T E
U
T
E
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>>159814412
And Illidan is considered broken as fuck in Korea. Do you want Illidan on your team?
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>>159712470
> Li Ming walks into Azeroth
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>>159820303
yes if he's good, so most of the time no
haven't played PTR but i heard he's broken as fuck now, koreans are probably creaming themselves
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>tfw no loli sylvanas gf
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>>159821375
wow i hate blizzcon, this board, warcraft and you now
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>>159821481
Hello, we understand your complaints and appreciate your feedback, will discuss.
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Oh man I SUUURE would HATE it if Tassadars shields got the healing by default, no no no, I'd HATE what it would do together with aa heroes like Tracer. I SURE WOULD HATE IT.
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>>159821375
cute
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>>159821734
I'm still waiting on the Artanis changes. Shit changes all the time.
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>>159821596
keep it up blizzard-kun, you're doing a wonderful job
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>>159744921
Is there an imgur folder for all of these?
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>>159822732
no, however i can make one with the ones i have and maybe post it?
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>>159822848
That'd be rad, would give commendation in mvp screen/10
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>>159823485
imgur.com/a/bXU4p/layout/grid
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>>159821375
2blurry4me
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>>159823983
>le questionable fanbase bear
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>>159823983
Fucking kek, thanks senpai
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>>159801018
Level 20 Gazlowe lover since early Alpha, I am so fucking ready.


>>159801332
DON'T DO THIS TO ME SHUT UP, GO AWAY PONYFUCKER.
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>>159824913
Level 20 Gazlowe? How's it been for you? What do you want changed?
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>>159824913
what rank are you?
when does gazlord stop being viable?
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>>159825332
Pretty much the same as it's ever been, better in some areas, worse in others. Better in that you're starting to see melee assassins more and more, and he's great against them, but worse in that with every burstier hero that's released, his turrets LOSE value because they're so easily melted by either AoE or just a single spell or a spell and auto attack.

The thing with Gazlowe is that if the enemy is not within range of his turrets, or his turrets go down, he's useless. I often find myself walking around picking up scrap just so I can put another turret down, as that's my main source of damage, so there are entire gaps of time wherein I'm contributing nothing, JUST because my turrets died to incidental AoE or something.

Alot of mobility has been introduced to the game as well, which means there are a lot more heroes who simply have no trouble staying out of range of my turrets, and against such heroes, Grav-O bomb will be entirely useless. So he's pretty much locked down to purely being good against melee heroes, and that's fine, but again, turrets melt to AoE and honestly, most of the time they're tanked by Warriors anyway. Which is also lame.

Sure, you could go Robo-Goblin and have your turrets ignore the Warrior manually, but you're then giving up Grav-O, which is likely the only reason you're picking Gazlowe to begin with. Robo-Goblin needs more teamfight utility.

I still love him though, it's just that he STILL struggles with being so incredibly reliant on the enemy team letting him have his way, which kind of sucks because anyone with competence isn't going to. Grav-O bomb hasn't stood the test of time because now absolutely everyone recognizes the Gazlowe combo, and simply plays with it in mind, which means he pretty much relies on his team to do something to keep them around so he can get a Grav-O off, but NOBODY is going to build or play around Gazlowe just for that, when they can pick something that isn't so reliant on others.
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>>159826564
He's only good against retards. So surprisingly high. If your team falls behind though Gazlowe is near worthless, especially since he's not even the best at PVE anymore.
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>>159825332
>>159826583
So if I were to point out something I'd like to see changed, it'd be a few things, but not necessarily ALL of them together, because that'd be OP.

-Increased turret durability purely against AoE, I cannot stand them dying to incidental AoE
-Hyperfocus Coils baseline. Lazor is FAR too slow without it, yet WITH it, you have to give up better turret teamfight potential via slows or cleave, and helps inherently make him fare better against range that otherwise are entirely unaffected by him by outranging turrets
-Robo-Goblin's 20 talent baseline at 10 but obviously toned down to fit. Alongside this, have Robo give him extra health or something as well, because as it stands, Gazlowe isn't built to be constantly meleeing anyone. There's a reason why if you're going Robo, you usually need Regen Master.

As I type this, I realize I don't really have any problem with his Xplosive bombs aside from wishing the increased radius and range were baseline, but that's only because so many heroes make it out of the ring in time, but that could just be my fault, who knows. His Xplosives are just like Nazeebo's Toads in that they're pretty much purely for PvEing, and that isn't necessarily bad. It's just that turrets and lazor are underwhelming in a LOT of situations when they're the more teamfight-oriented abilities.

>>159826564
Master, and generally whenever you feel your opponents wisen up and know not to fight under turrets, and instead just shoot them down before engaging. Which is to say, it's hard to tell when exactly that is because you'll find those people so sporadically. Some people do, some people don't. His mileage varies, but it varies depending on the enemy team, so it's just all kinds of weird, and is essentially the reason why nobody will play him or wants him around. You have to play and build around him, but like I said, when there are other heroes who can contribute without relying on so many variables, what's the point? Still my fav though
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>>159827604
Oh yeah, and It's Raining Scrap, even though nobody should really take it unless you're going full on Lazor build, needs to work off of Charges.

So, you create 5 scrap over 5 seconds, but once you active it, you can't stop it. So you end up picking up scarp generated by accident just because of their hitboxes and whatnot. It would be MUCH better by working off of 5 charges so you just activate it for a scrap on demand.
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I want Ragnaros already.
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>>159830208
Oh, I liked the insight to the world of Gazlowe. Haven't played him in months, I'm just far too scared any more.
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How do we fix Stitches?
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>>159830208
>Never played Gazlowe
>Get him in aram brawl
>Put some turrets down every now and then
>Top damage
Wtf? Is Gazlowe secretly really good or something?
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>>159831627
He's good if they never do a single thing about his turrets or let themselves get peppered by them. It's incredibly easy to top damage as him for this reason. Like I said, his mileage varies entirely depending on the enemy team and what they're willing to let him get away with.

But yeah, it's pretty easy to top damage as him, it's just that it's just as easy to negate said damage either via Warrior soaking it or healing it, as it's all sustained single target damage, USUALLY on non-key targets.
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>>159831627
When you have 4 other people on the same lane with you.
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>>159831601
By replacing him with Patchwerk
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Just got back into this game. Li-Ming and KT are fun as hell.
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>>159832742
And better yet Li Ming will be free to own starting next week.
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>tfw in love with jewhanna
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>>159831886
If we're going to get any more raid bosses as heroes by the end of the year (Excluding Zul'jin), I want Siegecrafter Blackfuse and Algalon so bad.


Fun fact: Siegecrafter Blackfuse is voiced by the same guy who voiced Pumbaa. Which is why his voice is so fucking amazing.


On that note, what raid bosses are you guys hoping making it in as heroes?
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>mfw discovered Tychus this week
holy FUCK
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>>159832776

I already bought her with gold.
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>>159833267
What a waste.
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>>159833298
Didn't know that she was going to be free to own.
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>>159833367
And Zarya, Auriel... Some other meaningless heroes.
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>>159833412
I want to get another hero but I only have 5.7k gold. Should I save for a 10k hero like Samuro?
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>>159833492
Samuro will be nerfed with a sledgehammer within the next few days, and will also be in the free rotation not the next week but the following week. I'm not so much for impulse buying heroes.
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>>159833591

I like the nuke ranged type heroes. So far I've liked KT and Mi-Ling. Should I go for Jaina?
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>>159833632
jaina is inexpensive and a solid choice for area of effect damage
i'd pick her up if you want an okay assassin, though there are better options
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>>159833632
If you really want to only have heroes of one type. I'd also recommend Valla for 2K, she's just as "nukey" and you have to actually know how to play the game.
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>>159832974
Deathwing. Or rather, Deathwing's Spine as an arena.
DEATHWING ROLLS LEFT!
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>>159833929
I meant to say "just not as nukey". Unless you keep the stacks high anyway, then the damage is deceiving.
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>>159832974
C'Thun. When you select him, your body becomes your team's core and your presence around the map are your tentacles.
Insta-kill eye beam included, but it only reaches as far as your keeps.
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>>159833895

I might give her a go. Who would you rank as top assassin?

>>159833929
>>159834152

I'm not a fan of Valla personally. I don't have the speed and precision for a Valla player.
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>>159833146
welcome to the fold brother
remember to take master assassin or you're a wimp
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I've been playing Sgt. Hammer and having a blast. How does she stack up at non-shitter levels?
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>>159834263
>bronze league
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>>159834250
Yeaaah if you suck at the game, Li Ming all the way. Jaina works too, but you gotta land that Ring of Bronze.
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>>159834250
Apparently Valla is getting nerfed anyway. Far too consistent right now.
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New patchnotes are up:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20352063/heroes-of-the-storm-balance-update-november-10-2016-11-10-2016
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http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20352063
patch note faggots, muradin got buffed
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>>159834798
>Murky buffed
feelsgoodman.jpg
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>>159834798
>>159834931
>those fucking tank changes
rofl
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>>159834648

Ring of Bronze? Is that a meme?

>>159834745

Is she now? Good thing I haven't tried her. I'll go with Ming and pick up Jaina then.
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>>159835063
Used to be...
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http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20352063/heroes-of-the-storm-balance-update-november-10-2016-11-9-2016
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>>159833930
>Deathwing's Spine, a 3 lane battleground
>Objective has you killing corrupted fire elementals that crawl our from under his scales
>Killing them puts a debuff on you that counts down and explodes at the end of the timer
>Teammates with this time bomb stand near an exposed vein of Deathwing's nearby to sear it and damage it
>The team to pop the vein makes Deathwing roll left (Left team) or right (Right team), sending one of the outermost structures flying off the map and damaging the rest.
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>>159835763
are you blind?
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>>159834516
guess again
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>>159835846
nigga how would i be using the computer if i was blind

are you retarded?
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>>159834798
>>159834931
Eh. So, not a lot. I'll take it though.
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>>159834931
He got nerfed

>Iron-Forged Momentum (Passive)
>No longer decreases the cooldown of Dwarf Toss

>Heavy Impact (E)
>Stun duration reduced from .75 to .5

80 more base health doesn't make up for that, they also said they are nerfing avatar next week.
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>>159834263
>master assassin
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>didn't know Recruit A Friend was a thing
>friend didn't give me a link when it would have made a difference so I didn't get free stuff

Am I missing out on much?
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>>159836034
Idk man technology is pretty amazing nowadays..
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>>159838062
Not really you just get like raynor and sylvanas
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>>159838062
Just the Vulture bike, Raynor and Sylvanas, and a small stimpak I believe.
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>>159839502
The vulture bike is only if you recruit 4 people who level their account to 10
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>>159839554
Yeah? You can just make 4 dummy accounts and do it solo, that's what me and like, everyone else did. So I think it's worth mentioning. Unlike LoL, they won't punish you for it.
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>>159839861
You don't miss out on the bike for not getting the code
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>>159834798
>>159834931
>Samuro's damage destroyed.
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Silver players are actually the fucking worst it's insane.

I just had a guy try to tell me that Hammer isn't a good pick on Towers of Doom.

Here's why she's a good pick on that map almost regardless of enemy line up:

SHE SHOOTS ACROSS HALF THE FUCKING MAP, WHICH IS A CLUSTERFUCK OF TERRAIN.
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>>159841694
Sgt Hammer's viability is more based on what the other team has and less on map honestly.
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>>159841825
You're actually wrong. I'm not trying to be mean, but you are wrong. Her range lets her hit structures, and the terrain is so dense, whilst the map being small are all massive advantages to the hero on the map.
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>>159841987
You misunderstood what I was talking about. I wasn't saying she was bad on the map, that and Braxxis are probably her two strongest maps.

What I was saying is she's only a bad pick into a certain team comp. Map has nothing to do with it.

You don't want to pick Hammer into Medivh or Stitches for example. Map has very little to do with if you should pick her or not.
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>sylvanas is 10k instead of 2k

fucking why?
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>>159841694
Somebody post the stats from Blizzcon that showed the majority of palyers being Silver.
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>>159842217
Because a lot of people got her for free.
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>>159841825
hammer main here-
also not that guy.

map matters far more than you think for hammer. if you learn hammer spots, and have a team that actually understands that whilst hammer is shooting its the most dps in the entire game, it almost doesnt matter what enemy team they have unless its long range poke such as chromie or a nova, something like that.
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>>159842401
Which is why I said there are certain heroes you don't want to pick her into. Which is more important than map for why you shouldn't pick her.

Honestly I think Medivh is far worst than Chromie. He can just fucking portal people on top of you. Zarya is pretty bad as well, she shields whoever dives and you can get fucked.
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>>159842329

Exactly. That's why she should be a 2k hero like Raynor and Valla.
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>>159842804
Yeah but Valla you got free if you bought Diablo, which no one is doing nowadays. The Sylvanas thing is still running.
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>It's a "LoL/DotA Pro doesn't play the objective episode
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>>159842925
>Sylvanas thing is still running.

What is it?
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>>159843148
Recruit a Friend. People you recruit get Raynor and Sylvanas free
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>>159843148
Get a friend to get to a certain lvl and the friend gets Sylvanas you get a special mount.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvyy0sulDVg
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>>159843221
You need to get 4 friends or 4 smurfs to level 10 to get the mount.
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>>159843189
>>159843221
>People you recruit get Raynor and Sylvanas free

That doesn't help me get Sylvanas for free if I'm already 40.
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I don't get why people don't seem to get that the reason they are nerfing Mura and ETC rather than buffing other warriors is because they don't think solo tank should be a thing.

There's a reason there are only 3 in the game. Because they want you to play two warriors rather than three assassin/specialists.
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>>159843326
No it doesn't. Welcome to everybody's problem with the event when they announced it last year.

>>159843319
I know.
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>>159843020
>It's a "People Shrug Off HotS As Being Some Casually Baby As Fuck C Rated Game When In Actuality It's Rare to Find a Good Player Because Fucking Everybody Wants to Play the Game Like It's LoL or DotA and Ignore Objectives, Proper Soaking and General Map Management" episode.
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>>159843584
Feels good to be on the majority, that way queues take less to find a match
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>>159843476
They said they want to split the roles up into two groups one day. I don't think it's moreso about them not wanting single tank teams, but rather, they want there to be clear "guardians" and then "bruiser" archtypes, but right now some actual tanks are just a bit too good and kind of fit both for the time being.
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>>159843584
I have never felt so bad at the game before. I bet if I tried HL again, I'd place better.
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>>159843584
Towers in Dota are worth the most gold, even more than Roshan and a courier kill.
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>>159843997
Roshan is worth the most now. Also aegis is pretty good.
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>>159843584
I want to get an account to bronze to see how much different it is from plat. Plat feels like literally brzone
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>>159834798
>they are beginning to think about maybe preparing to give murky a buff perhaps
hots will be fun again soon!
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>>159845635
Just play quick match. You'll get some on your team to balance out the teams.
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>play 2 games every day for a week
>lose every single one

i guess the game has decided i need to lose some games now, i won too many last week
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Would you Hammer her Bama?
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>>159846436
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Man looking at that second patch, Samuro got raped. I do like the Zarya changes. They make some of her other builds more viable, while making her old build still strong.
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Just started playing. Played nothing but Lili because I liked her from WoW for 15 games and won 14 of em. MVP for like 10 of em.
I figure Lili is probably shit compared to other supports from what I've seen people play.
What y'all think I should migrate into?
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>>159847494
Good Supports for beginners would be Li Li, Uther, Morales, then I'd say a good one to jump to would be Brightwing, and learn to use that Z properly. I figure, this teaches good map awareness because Brightwing is all about teleporting across the map to help someone in need.
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>>159847820
I have no issues difficulty wise, but I'll check out brightwing
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>KTs picking pyroblast vs medivh

things that make you go hmmmm
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>>159848884
>KT Pyroblasts me as Nazeebo post 13

Superstition, cocksucker. You're just a sitting target for me. I fucking love Superstition so much. The rework may have ruined Toads, but it gave me that talent, so all is forgiven.
>>
I picked up HotS around Blizzcon after seeing you could get the Oni skin for Genji in Overwatch. I've been pulled in hard, I'm having so much fun. I'm curious about trying some other Blizzard games since Overwatch was the only one I've played properly until now. Is WoW still worth playing as a new player? I hear people who play frequently complain about it but after seeing all the heroes in HotS I want to experience it all properly. Didn't know where else to ask this.
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>>159846979
Hardly. I've been playing a lot of Samuro lately and the only uncalled for nerf was the teleport distance. The others were fine. His only issue were/are illusions. Also this nerf isn't massive at all but it will hopefully shut up the bronzies (aka redditors) about "m-muh overpowered samuro ;_;"
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>>159836429

He'll probably be ok. Heavy impact has just recently become meta, if it goes out he'll just go back to give em the axe/imposing presence/stoneform. And he might not even do that, since .5s is still enough to secure the stormbolt.

While iron forged momentum still has the crazy healing static synergy. And he still has piercing bolt to fall back on.
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>>159849053
>ruined toads
>still able to do 1k+ dmg each
:)
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>>159849265
It's still perfectly fine for a new player. Everyone who complains is just a bunch of veteran players who pine for what used to be. Not to say they don't have valid points, but it's not nearly as bad as they make it out to be. I still love WoW, so I personally think it's worth a good go.

Never played Diablo 1, I only watched my uncle play it a bunch when I was kid, but I played D2 on release when I got a bit older, and even after all these years I would tell you to fucking try that game for goddamn sure. Diablo 2 is still to this day very good. Diablo 3 with Reaper of Souls is also pretty good as well, and more in-line with modern gameplay values and whatnot. So I vouch for both D2 and D3.

Starcarft, I could never get into.

Warcraft 3 is very much worth a try. I spent thousands of hours on that as a kid as well. I don't think it's required of you to go through to enjoy WoW, but it does certainly help. I leave out WC1 and WC2 because I'm not even sure if you can run those on Windows 10. I know they just barely added better W10 support for WC3 and D2, so.
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>>159849265
Welcome to the family. I haven't played WoW but I can recommend SC2 as a game to improve your multitasking and map awareness
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>>159849391
Yeah, on who? The Warrior(s). That's great and all, but they aren't reliable and consistent damage on the targets that matter, and they deal damage over WAY too much time. They're amazing for PvE though.
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>>159849663
>>159849707
Thanks anons. Which would you recommend out of D2 or D3 to try first? And is it worth picking up SC1 first to know what's going on or is is the story minimal? Looks like I'm going to just pick up a bunch of stuff and have fun over winter.
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>>159849816
They're still solid as fuck. What did they ruin?

Personally, Nazeebo is pretty shit right now anyway so toads are irrelevant.
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>>159849910
If you want story then for sure play SC1 first but SC2 is much better to just pick up and play so it depends what you want out of it
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>>159849910
From what I know of SC1, it isn't ENTIRELY required, but it certainly helps. The story makes a big leap from SC1 to SC2, and a gigantic shift in tone and all that. A lot of fans of SC1 are upset over the odd story decisions in SC2 that don't line up with how things ended in SC1 and all that. From what I know of anyway.

It's hard to say which Diablo to try first because I don't know how okay you are with older games. If you want something more in line with how HotS feels, D3 then. It's faster and the loot system late game presents you with more instant gratification moments and whatnot, whereas in D2, you're in it for the long run. It's more punishing, playing the game on harder difficulties requires you to git gud at the game and all that. D2 feels more skill and game-knowledge based whereas D3 is all about the gear you get.
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>>159849910
SC1 so you can experience the story, though there is a shitton of quality-of-life improvements between SC1 and SC2. There are a few fan mods you can google that port the SC1 games to the SC2 engine.
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>>159849910
I haven't been following your conversation but, Star Craft 1 is great definitely play it.
You do not want to skip the first game.
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>>159851302
>>159850363
>>159850239
>>159850223
SC1 is installing now. Thanks for the help, can't wait to get stuck in. Don't think I've ever played an RTS other than a few hours of DoW1 so it'll be interesting.
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>>159851481
Do expect to be frustrated with certain points of it. It is an old game and shows it. A max unit selection of 12 and horrible unit pathing are the two, most prominent things.
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>>159851481
Get the expansion (Brood War) too.

>>159851579
Yeah, it uses the 8-way movement, really gay shit.

What's the aprox' time to takes for a non-shitter to complete SC1 and BW? Haven't played them in a few years.
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>>159851641
Over the course of a few days maybe?

There are cheat codes if you just don't want to give a fuck anymore on a mission over and over again.
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>>159849306
They gutted a lot of his burst damage and his clones hit way less hard.I guess raped isn't the right word, but it's going to be like Zeratul. He's going to be like Zeratul when he got nerfed. He's still going to be good, he's just not going to be as insane.
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New maiev thread where?
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Nobody told me how good the music is in Starcraft. I love the Terran music so far.
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>>159853198
Terran music is best music.
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we gun die
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>>159853304
Dunno. Zerg's is really fucking good. I'd wager for Zerg, personally.

Sadly 'toss' isn't that good, despite being best race.
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>>159854319
Their music in SC2 got a big boost. Specifically, Legacy of the Void.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUzxdczZKjY
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I'M SORRY IF I FUCKED IT UP, I'VE NEVER BEEN THE ONE TO REMAKE IT BEFORE.

>>159854465
>>159854465
>>159854465
>>159854465
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