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/dsg/ Demon's/Dark Souls + Bloodbourne + King's Field

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Link the Fire edition

Old and busted: >>159491658

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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I regret not making the thread myself
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is the cathedral knights mace worth it if I'm running a 35 str 50 fth build and either want to put heavy on it and buff it was darkmoon or lightning or just give it lightning?
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What the fuck is this thread? This place really does need a nuke
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How do we start /dsg/?
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What's some good fashion to use on an edgy dark paladin build? I want to RP as a knight from Londor using the Onyx Blade and some dark spells. What should I wear?
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we gotta start using higher quality paints
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Dark Souls 3 is irredeemably bad. It had its chance to prove itself with Ashes of Ariandel and it only showed that From can only keep milking the 'muh game is hard' by not adding challenge to the game, but just make it ridiculously vexing.

Dark Souls 3 is the worst Souls game. I wanna believe it's all just a big meme, but it isn't.
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>>159518514
But painter-chan, you've already drained me of all my white paint. I can't possibly let out another drop!
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>>159518459
Elemental damage is flat, lighter weapons benefit more. If you want to use big fat sticks, use Blessed Weapons instead. Th exception is Lothric Knight UGS with inate lightning
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Hillary? Trump? Or something else entirely?
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I just gave the Very Large Ember to Andre but he isn't offering to upgrade my scythe past +10, am I doing something wrong?
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What went wrong with Ashes of Ariendel...

>too short
>reused the Dark Souls II memes where more enemies = harder
>pay to win, DLC weapons are much stronger than the weapons in the base game
>boss with multiple phases meme
>multiple bosses at once meme
>2 normal enemies can be bosses meme
>platforming meme

>Undead Match doesn't use embered health meme
>No rewards for undead match
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>>159518605
Allant XII for president 2016!
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>>159518617
modify equipment you infinite nigger
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>>159518648
>Ariendel
>meme meme meme meme meme meme
the length is the only valid point, kill yourself for everything else
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>>159518679
It only shows up under this second tab, but I don't think this is the right one...? Isn't the 2nd tab an enchantment or something? Like magic/fire/divine etc? I've tried pressing buttons but I can't find a name or more information in the game about it...
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Was he right?
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>>159518468
Have we started the fire?
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>>159518769
you need a titanite chunk, cutie
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Wolnir's Crown
>Crown of Wolnir, the Carthus conqueror.
>Once upon a time, such things were bequeathed judiciously to each of the rightful lords, until Wolnir brought them to their knees, and ground their crowns to dust. Then the crowns became one, and Wolnir, the one High Lord.

Soul of Yhorm the Giant
>Yhorm is the descendant of an ancient conqueror, but was asked by the very people once subjugated to lead them, serving as both a weighty blade and a stone-hard shield.

Wolnir is huge, Yhorm is huge but not an actual giant since he doesn't have a tree knot for a face. Carthus Catacombs are above the Smouldering Lake, which leads to the Demon Ruins, which seem like a possible source for the Profaned Flame.

So Wolnir is Yhorm's granddad, and the people Wolnir conquered asked Yhorm to lead them. There was possibly something terrible about the Profaned Flame that Yhorm wanted to put a stop to, which is why he became a Lord of Cinder. Maybe the fire from the First Flame reacted to the fire that came from the chaos flame that the Witch of Izalith made, thus destroying the Profaned Capital and rendering Yhorm into depression?
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>>159518769
>titanite chunk 1/ 0
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>>159518772
Way of Blue in dark souls 2 was a dignified job taken on by the most honorable of paladins
Way of Blue in dark souls 3 was HGRUHH
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After about 3 games I cannot stand this shit anymore. Does the rolling mechanic not look fucking retarded to anyone else?

>Roll under a hunk of metal 3 feet off the ground
>Roll into a geyser of souls
>Roll inside a shockwave blast
>Roll,roll,roll

Fuck this 'teleported behind you, completely unscathed' shit.
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>tfw because of the undead arena, don't have anymore pale tongues for rerolling

fuck. when will they fix invasions? Tried invading the dlc and it's all 4 man squads all the time.
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>>159518772
what the fuck is the difference between wob and bodm
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>>159518769
>has zero titanite chunks
>doesn't know why he can't upgrade
>maiden set + scythe
Why does there have to be people like this on the same planet I'm on
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>>159518769
YOU ALEPH ONE NIGGER
how do you even go through new londo and not pick up any chunks? did you upgrade a lightning or crystal weapon?
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Ok so I kinda lost interest in Dark Souls 3 around the time I got to the big castle (where there are 2 dragons that guard the entrance that you have to kill). I think I'm about to fight some living armor boss as well.
I've already fucked around in that dragon shrine killed that Oceiros dragon guy.

How much left of the game is there?
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>>159518892
cool glow
darkmoons are LITERALLY just "ancient blue sentinels"
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>>159518925
not much really
besides the one armor boss, there's 2 unoptional bosses and there's that
archives are arguably one of the best areas in game though
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>>159518806
>>159518823
>>159518823
>>159518907
>>159518924
how does he have 1 out of 0 titanikes?
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>>159518772
Certainly the least cringeworthy NPC because he doesn't laugh like an idiot all the time
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>>159518971
required/possessed
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>>159518971
he needs to take 1 chunk out of his 0 chunks
that's fucking impossible, so he can't upgrade
>>159518907
hey don't talk shit about the maiden set or you'll regret it kiddo
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>playing dark souls 1 for the first time in like 2 years
>get to o and s
>want to kill ornstein last for the ring
>first phase
>ornstein keeps throwing himself into my weapon and taking more damage than smough
>half the hits on smough don't even count for damage even though they make the hit noise
suffering
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>>159518772
He's unironically the only hope dsg has
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>there are people who don't know that resistance scales with Kirk's armor damage in DaS1
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>>159518978
the meme laugh is literally a trademark of the franchise at this point and I love it
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>>159519028
Here's something I've wondered, what happens if you kill them both at the same time? Like get them down to a sliver of health each and then use an attack that finishes them both off at once at the exact same time?

Does the game throw a fit? How does it decide who died first?
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>>159519028
Just summon Solaire
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>>159518806
>>159518823
>>159518907
>>159518924
Nooooooo that's not what I meaaaaaan

I thought when you "modify" a weapon it changes its properties into something else, like lighting/fire/divine, so I thought that only the first tab was the "normal" upgrades, and the others were "elemental" upgrades, because I wanted a +15 normal weapon not a +15 weapon that wasn't normal

I don't understand! So the 2nd tab is a normal upgrade path too? Or can "elemental" weapons not be upgraded to +11?
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>>159519101
ornstein dies first
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>>159519110
Didn't you need the Large Ember to modify it and upgrade it past +5 too?
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>>159519110
first tab is large ember non-elemental upgrade
second tab is very large ember non-elemental upgrade
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>>159519104
>Waiting for Solaire to deal with the 2 giant knight things
kys
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>>159519110
You see son, you fucking play the game and acquire skill and hard earned knowledge.
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>>159519192
Git gud
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>>159519028
>>half the hits on smough don't even count for damage even though they make the hit noise
he follows the legacy of the giant sentinels. his hammer is treated as a shield and if you hit it, it doesn't count
>>159519065
thrust? does it even matter though?
>>159519110
only normal weapons go to +15
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The hidden bossfight in the DLC was so fucking good
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reminder to filter and ignore him
NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, do not reply to him
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What changes would you make to the current poise system?
>greatswords need a reduction in poise damage, leave poise health the same but make it harder for them to stun people out of special WA attacks like friede's combo or UGS weapons
>scythes need to have an immense amount of poise damage being basically great warpicks in that aspect so lack of poise and mediocre speed would be compensated by ability to shut down any HA weapon
>give very small poise to 2h axes, the same as current glaives
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>>159519086

Too overdone. It became really annoying to me. The only NPC where it worked for me was Oswald because he laughs like a fucking psychopath and it's kidna convincing.
Solaire and Onionbros are okay too because it's the laugh of a deluded idiot instead of "HEHEHE I HAVE A SECRET"
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>be SL100 pure STR build
>wanna fuck around with other weapons and find another weaponfu
>trying a myriad of different builds, pyro, magic, DEX, semi-quality
>none of it comes close to the enjoyment I get out of my Fume sword
>not even any of the other UGS's come close to this big slab

Fuck me lads, help me out here, what are some fun builds/weapons?
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I'm lonely and bored of the souls games...
What video games do you cuties play when you're burnt out of them..?
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>>159519262
Filter comments too
/lucifer/i
/lucy/i
/hillary/i;boards:vg
/trump/i;boards:vg
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>>159519240
No, it wasn't.

>r1 into r1 each of the little wolves
>guard break into riposte the human 2 and there are like 90% dead
>Toss 3 vestiges and the wolf is dead
>guard break the human once more
. . . and the fight is over. It was lame as fuck.
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>>159519345
dex with supplemental INT spells like spook and snap freeze
highlevel pyromancer
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>>159519372
Are you a girl
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What was his endgame?
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>>159519262
Who?
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>>159519310
I literally started meme laughing irl because of Souls
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>>159519437
To destroy dsg once and for all

He was doing God's work
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How come DeS is the only game that did sorcery right? Melee with magic as supplementary, you could alternate between meleeing and casting.

But in the rest of the series it's either play pure melee or play pure sorcerrer, with the only in between being being pure melee with weapon buffs

I want to melee the fuck out of shit and if they go out of range i want to blow them the fuck up, or blow them the fuck up as they come close and then kill them until they die.

There is no reason to go jack of all trade build in these games, I have this big ass mana bar and dont even bother casting because I use melee too much
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>>159519240
We are born by the Krab
Made men... by the Krab
Undone... by the Krab
Fear the Old Krab

>Fear the Old Krab
hint for a secret Old Krab bossfight in DLC2?
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>>159518925
Very little. 2 bosses and done. NG+ doesn't add much but +1 rings and +2 after that cycle. It's not that fun anymore after the first playthrough. DLC is nice though, but the only good thing about it is the OST and the aesthetics of the area. Other than that, it's very unimpressive.
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>>159519437

Two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.
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>tfw you watch a semi-popular DaS3 twitch streamer and you start saying mimicing her by screeching "REEE" when things go wrong.
dropped a can of soda and without thinking just let out a loud "reeee" then started to laugh uncomfortably because everyone heard me.

God damn it, I want to die.
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>>159519372
Overwatch. Sometimes I avoid video games entirely and just binge on Netflix or do something productive.
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>>159519602
I'm bored of Overwatch already, I got to level 128 and 3000 rating and just stopped playing.
I wanted the Mercy Skin and just ended up buying it instead of even playing 1 game to get loot boxes...
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>>159519579

Unironically kill yourself.
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>>159519175
That was another ember that I used yeah but I can't remember the specifics, I don't know if it used the 2nd tab or not, I have the memory of a goldfish

>>159519180
Oh! That answers my confusion, thanks!

>>159519221
But why do that when I have such a positive and nice group of people who are really nice and give me advice and encourage me to do my best like you guys?

>>159519231
Oh I see, thanks
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>>159519372
EDF
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>>159519548
More like Archdeacon McDonald's
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>>159519515
There's the blue flame swords that you can power stance with and cast magic in DS2
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>>159519515
BB had the best casting system. Augur was a bridge between melee and spells that allowed to both backstab and parry, beast roar was the best version of Force in series, etc. And that's on top of powerful elemental weapons.
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Where do you get the ember for +10 to +11?
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>>159519728
They are also utter shit both as swords and casting catalysts.
Not like it would change something given how horrible the DS2 casting system in its entirety tho.
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>tfw never played DeS in its prime
>tfw never played DaS in its prime

This is suffering. Tell me stories of these games /dsg/. They seem like the only Souls game where it's actually fun to invade and co-op.
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>>159519372

Currently playing Mount & Blade WfAS because it was only 3 bucks during the sale, seems like Warband would have been the better choice because it has over 10 times the amount of mods.
I dunno, I can kind of look at the game and tell it's crap but I'm still having fun.
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>>159519515
There hasn't been anything as satisfying as soul ray in subsequent games.
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Fix Dark Souls 3 in 5 or less words
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>>159519798
You missed the glory that is havels + iron flesh + crystal ring shield.
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>>159519835
Destroy dsg and remove Jundifer
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>>159519798
das wasnt really as fun as des

people had no fucking idea what was going on and the first maps had only scanned hand drawn maps and it took a really long time to get information on all the items

it wasnt really a popular game then it became a meme and so we got das for pc for all the scrubs
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>>159519798
des was a shit game that was incredibly obtuse mechanically but the souls charm is what caused people to gravitate towards it, noone claimed it was "hardest game ever1!1!" but rather it was a legitimately good game in an era where everything that came out was shit. The community was tight except for pvpers, who were asshats but nowhere near the cancer they are today.

DaS came in and we got the git gud circlejerk and memes everywhere dragging the community down the mud; didnt help that with DaS being multiplatform we got a lot of retards that perpetuated the lol git gud xdd mentallity and then when pc version came out and it was literally called PREPARE TO DIE then the meme floodgates were opened. The community died that day.
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>>159519792
>objectively the best sorcery catalyst below 40 INT, second best above
>a fucking straightsword
>utter shit
no anon, you are the shit
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>>159519515
To be fair, with Farron Flashsword, you can go Melee and switch to ranged magic in a jiffy. But I get where you're coming from. It's not as good.
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>>159518509
>>159518509
>>159518509
Pls respond
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>>159519835
balanced and unique weapons
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>>159519917
>worst version of longsword moveset in the game
>almost unusable without buffing
>if held in left hand, left hand damage debuff applies to spells as well because it's considered to be a weapon and not catalyst
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>>159519901
>des was a shit game
so you sucked at it/ never played it
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>>159519835

Tanimura was the better Miyazaki
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>>159519835
Fire From, Hire HAL Laboratory
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>>159519985
black shit
or sunless boots + firewitch etc(dancer is ok 2) + sunless veil
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des
throw back to older gamesier

das
level designier

das ii
funner

das iii
rollier
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>>159519372
SMT
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>>159519875
Who?

>>159519901
Actually, people gravitated towards it because it was tough but fair. It actually punished you for being stupid.

The "git gud" was a response to shitters that wanted to blame the game and have the game dumbed down to suit them rather than getting better themselves. Mustards are just entitled casuals in general, so shit was bound to go bad when they were introduced.
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>>159520006
Play it today and tell me it has aged well.
ProtipYou can't
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>>159519989
the """worst""" version of longsword moveset has much better tracking than the regular one while being unnoticably slower
just buff it if you consider it unusable without it
just hold it in the right hand, other Souls games don't even give you the option to use full movesets in your left hand
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>>159520132
Suck my tits?
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Is it possible to twink in DaS3? I'm sick to fuck of invading gank squards every single god damn time. Now I want to be a fucking asshole for once.
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>>159520223
doesnt matter what SL you play at, youll get raped by ganksquads
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>>159520223
no fuck off
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>>159520223
I suppose you can upgrade your estus to max
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Did DSG drop in quality within this pass hour?
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>>159520223
Knight's Ring, Hunter's Ring
Fap+2, Life+3

Raw Dragonslayer Axe Lightning Resin

SL10 Raw Dragonslayer Axe +2
SL20 Raw Dragonslayer Axe +2
SL30 Raw Dragonslayer Axe +3
SL40 Raw Dragonslayer Axe +4
SL50 Raw Dragonslayer Axe +4
SL60 Raw Dragonslayer Axe +5 (+6 and higher will match you up with the SL60 pvp fags)
Anything Higher and you're not a twink

Twinking in this game is met with scaled down high levels with their 15 estus and full havel+warpick ganksquads though
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>>159520178
>can be parried on reaction and covers almost no horizontal range in 1h unlike other longswords
>doesn't even have the axe running attack like possessed armor sword to compensate
It has a shit moveset mate, deal with it.
>just hold it in the right hand
Why when i can hold an actually good weapon in right hand and a good catalyst in left?
By the way i'm very glad that they removed dumb damage debuff in left hand from DS3, this alone made offhand weapons way more viable even with limited moveset.
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>>159520370
we deserve to be purged
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Just beat the Sister Freida boss fight. Overall I'm pretty disappointed because I think that the first two phases of the fight alone make the fight one of, if not IMO, the best boss in the game. However, the fact that there's a third phase with an immense amount of health, the same bland boring moveset that doesn't change as the fight progresses, the fact that it's literally nothing but multiple slashes with the scythes over and over, on top of the fact that you're supposed to fight it after being fatigued from two previous fights really ruined the experience for me. I guess it's like Champion Gundyr; The boss fight would have been amazing if they didn't add on this stupid bullshit. If they instead dropped the third phase and focused on making the second phase better, then it would have probably been a very good O&S clone and most likely one of my favorite bosses in the series.

The DLC overall has kind of just been pretty mediocre, on top of the fact that it's short as hell. Wolves are stupid as fuck, I can't believe they literally brought back the hammer enemies from DKS2 with infinite stamina, and a couple of other issues I had bothered me through my playthrough. At least the music is okay and the level design is great. Here's hoping the second half of the DLC really make Dark Souls 3 worth it, because AoA sure as hell didn't.
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going to join the army soon , /dsg/
what are some souls-like games I can play/emulate on my PSP?
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>>159520395

I rarely see PW phantoms desu
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>>159520370
weekend so /v/tards are flocking in again
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>>159520396
but the possessed armor sword had the normal longsword R1s, what the fuck are you talking about?
it could only be parried on reaction with perfect connection, and let's be honest, that happens extremely rarely in Souls games
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>>159520195
Shin Megami Tensei
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>>159520467
Emulate the King's Field games. They're pretty good.

don't die when they deploy you ;_;
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>>159520395
What stats would you normally go for, say, around SL15 - 20 on that build?
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>>159520452
>I guess it's like Champion Gundyr; The boss fight would have been amazing if they didn't add on this stupid bullshit
The fuck did you just say about Champ?
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What is a good STR weapon for pve? need to head to NG+2 as fast as possible
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>>159520486
>>159520370
>>159520409
you mean it got better now that the normies are out partying
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>>159520623
greataxe
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>>159520564
You don't need dex or str, since you got the rings as a deprived so I like 20 endurance and rest into health so it be 20vgr/20end at sl20 and 15vgr/20end at sl15
you could just funnel it all into vgr too since Fap ring should give plenty of stamina, but i like having more stamina personally
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What's the address for weapon damage types (strike, standard etc) in CE? I want to test something not online you fucks
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>>159520667
Cheers anon. Would love to see some webms of this sometime.
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if i want to make a build around using the darkmoon blade miracle do i go faith/str or faith/dex?

also what is the best upgrade path to take for my weapon as blessed weapons can't be buffed
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>>159520623
Executioner's Greatsword and Javelin
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>>159520567
Champion Gundyr is ruined by the fact you can parry him.

My first playthrough of DKS3 I did the fight without parrying and it was one of the best experiences in the Souls series for me. Then I laerned you can parry him and it made me pretty upset since it makes him and Iudex extremely easy.
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>>159520779
I don't parry him on ng+7
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>>159520779
why not do the fights without parrying then?
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>>159520779
So don't parry him?
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>>159520767
I doubt you'd be hitting 40 on Dex or Str, so Heavy, Sharp, or no infusion works.
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>>159520821
>>159520826
>>159520843
Yes, yes this tired and dull argument. Next you'll say don't roll or don't attack.
*Yawn* I do grow very much tired of this pointless debate, enjoy your free (You)'s and begone vermin. *Shoo's you away*
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>>159520826
>>159520843
I rarely run Champion Gundyr anymore because getting to that area in the game doesn't really hold any meaning for me.

In any case, the fact is you can parry him. Objectively, it makes him an easy boss because of it. Had he not had it, he would have been a much more difficult boss. For example, if Artorias could be parried he wouldn't be nearly as good of a boss as he is now.

>>159520907
Please don't speak for me if you're going to act like a cuck about it.
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My Demon's Souls disk stopped being able to be read by my PS3...
It's $20 for a digital copy which is kinda steep and I'm scared of meeting strangers to get a second hand copy, help...
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>>159520932
"In any case, the fact you can summon two players for boss X. Objectively makes boss x an easy boss because of it."

This is you.
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>>159520932
do you think Princes are a good fight?
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>>159521041
they are
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Is there any way to viably use hexes in dark souls 3? It feels like whatever I come up with, Pyromancy is just better and there's almost no reason at all to try using hexes or an sorcery/miracle mix when you could just use pyromancy anyway. or physical damage.
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>>159520942
Demon's Souls FC when?
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i finally beat ashes of ariandel and collected all items on soul level 1

when gael isn't being a fucking moron he's an absolute bro, thank god you can summon him without an ember
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There's 124 bosses across the soulsborne games and yet only 8 of them are good bosses.

Those eight are: Ludwig, Kos, Gehrman, Elfriede, Champ, Artorias, Kalameet, Manus

Literally 6% of the bosses in the games are good.
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>>159521041
No.
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>>159518925
Maybe 15% of the game left.
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Is Soul Stream useful at all?
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>>159521183
That doesn't look like a < 20 END build to me senpai.
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why does ariandriel have a lordvessel?
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>>159518530
>>159521160
kill yourselves
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>>159521075
if you have Hidden Body active during the whole fight you can cast Pestilent Mercury in front of Lorian in both phases and he will slowly die without even fighting you
it's very easy to kill them like that so i guess it makes them a bad fight too
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>>159521227
It used to be.

>>159521239
It's 20 end exactly, IIRC.
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>>159519658
goddamn, you're so stupid it's cute
CUTE!
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>>159521347
don't steal my waifu
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>>159521183
You've given me an idea for a build now, thanks champ.
Gonna make a dark/fire longsword and be a flynn-ring naked pyro fag
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>>159521347
he just wants your You's

anon please
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>>159520467
Real army or some play-dough conscript army?
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>>159521250
Because each world has his own lordvessel.
Paintings are nothing but doors that connect you to another world
Despite people believing that you can burn/destroy a painted world, you're just destroying the path
how do you set a patreon?
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>>159521250
I don't think it's holding any lords to be a lord vessel.

I just wonder why he has to strap himself to the chair and ground like that
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>>159521435
he's american and got stuck to his chair
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>>159521449
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What possible lore reason could there be for there to be butts here...?

Also centipede demon was way easier by myself, and I spent all that time upgrading it was kinda silly how fast he died
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>>159521363
why do you guys put Oceiros so low?
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>>159521542
Because he's dumb. He's just really big Vordt, like Demon King.
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>>159521363
pretty accurate but Gravetenders deserve to be at least in mid tier and Vordt in low
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>>159521542
cramped boss room, charge attack with no telegraph, a lot of chasing him around when he flails
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>>159521612
Vordt is a good newbie boss I think. He's supposed to be easy and he is.
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>>159521612
>Gravetender deserve to be at least in mid tier
I personally voted 0 for gravetender because it was a mediocre bossfight ruined by being an ebin chainmom reference
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>>159521647
Greavetender Greatwolf is basically an improved Vordt who is much funnier to fight against and has a godly OST.
Vordt is too easy given that we already had a tutorial boss.
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>>159521510
probably something to do with the firestorms that burned the archtrees. lost izalith is a hellhole of cut content and rushed areas. it's a great shame because lorewise, it's one of the most interesting areas. the designs are also amazing, but concealed by the blinding eyesore, uninteresting areas and run-by enemies
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>>159519798
co-oping is much more fun in DaS3 than it is in DaS or DeS.
DeS had really good maps for invasions though and at most you were invading into a 1v2.

Really though the best thing about DeS is the checkpointing of the maps and the emphasis on physical shortcuts instead of bonfires.

DeS feels like most worlds are on par with the better levels of Dark Souls 1/3 in terms of exploring and shortcuts.

There are still levels that I think are kinda shit like I never liked StoneFang Tunnel due to the shit camera in the cramped tunnels and the fucking pillbugs.
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>>159521698
I guess. I kept track of my deaths on my first playthrough, the enemy I died most to was the Outrider Knight (if you count both of them together). A really big version of that one would have been harder.
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>>159521510

They were probably supposed to be something else, but From ran out of time so they reused the Dragon Legs model. They're called the Bounding Demon's of Izalith.
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what if dark souls 3 dlc is just changing the connectivity of dark souls 1 and removing soul memory in dark souls 2 and changing both of them to use dark souls 3 system + password
and you get a 50% coupon off both games
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>>159521852
the fuck did you just say about my cat
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>>159521363
I'm okay with this.

>>159521612
Gravetender loses points for not being Looking Glass Knight 2.0 and being a naked Havelmom clown.
>Giantdad would've unironically made Gravetender look cooler
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>>159521840
I feel like they missed a good opportunity with Vordt. Instead of him we should've fought a simple outrider knight, just larger and with some additional moves. Vordt himself should've worked as a pursuer, a constant threat to you across the Settlement and Farron swamp. Imagine him appearing in a middle of a swamp and charging at you like an asshole.
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>>159521949
>Giantdad would've unironically made Gravetender look cooler
Leave you tasteless memespouting fucktard.
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I want to make a new character in this game, but im finding it near impawsible to think of a fun build right meow. Can any one of you lend me a paw and help mew?
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>>159521949
>>159522052

They really should have modeled him after this. You can't tell me this doesn't look good.
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>>159522052
As opposed to the naked Havelmomclown Giantdad actually had decent and imposing looking armor and only the mask was goofy.

>champion gets up
>does Well, what is It?
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>>159521758
oh my god these enemies are terrifying, I shot one with an arrow and it charged at me and jumped in the air, they can't actually get up here right? These the dragon butts respawn?

>>159521849
Good thing I bought like 800 arrows
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>>159518605
>Bernie
>not Burnie

step it the fuck up
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>>159522059
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/111407
This is what I'm going to build now, thanks to that 1h + pyro webm linked earlier.
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>>159522301
>Burnie Cinders
Hey,that's actually mildly amusing.
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>>159521183
How are you doing so much damage with Pyromancy
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>>159522314
You can't buff elemental infused weapons.
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>r1-r1 someone with rose of ariandel
>launch stake immediately after
>it always works
hey, this thing is better than i thought
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I had a dream that I met Irina and she told me comfy tales while we sat beside the bonfire
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>>159522416
Hey, you're new here aren't you?
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So what are the latest memes for faith builds? Is there still no decent faith weapons?
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>>159520452
>hammer enemies from Dark Souls 2.
They are clearly the Stoneaxe knights from DaS1 DLC.
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>>159522254
>>159521758
>>159521510
you are my favorite poster in the whole world!
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>>159522145
Pic looks good but DaS1 meta fashion was fucking horrible.
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>>159522757
no it wasn't

they should speed up backstab activation to truly make das3 fun
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>>159522145
the very least they could do was remodel the armor so it looked good together and didn't reuse armor already in the game
its just lazy
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>>159522757
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>>159522805
it was by simple virtue of HSWC being close to a necessity. poise should be a direct function or weight. ugly HSWC was spammed and sexy ass hard leather set never saw the light of day just because of that
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>>159521758
Hopefully there will be a proper remaster with fixed areas and mechanics. Didn't miyazaki show interest in outsourced development of the next souls games?
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Is this a troll? Will I get stuck and have to restart this area if I jump down?

Probably dumb to ask since I'll probably just get trolled here
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>>159522910
that's true but I still have a boner for das1
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>>159522805
fuck off luce
DaS3 can't be fixed without making it DaS2.3.
There is no fun in neutered dual wielding or animation canceling.
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>>159523023
jesus fucking christ move your ass out of here back to >>>/r/eddit
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How do I into pyromancy?
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FUCK CUTTING OFF SEATH'S TAIL

FUCK THAT PIECE OF SHIT ASSHOLE FUCKER AND HIS FUCKING NERD RAGE TAIL SWINGING
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>>159522869
I really liked the smug mug.
It's perfect for a havelmom cosplay.
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>>159523023
>restart
it is a troll but it's only a light trek back to where you climbed up
>>159523032
everyone does. anon. everyone does
>>159523091
nigger, leave my waifu alone. i will hit you hard
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>>159523023
go ahead :)

>>159523043
didn't know lucie preferred dark souls 1

do you really think having heavy attack on left hand would make it better? oh though there are also running and rolling attacks. guess that would be a nice addition. when it comes to actually power stancing I think it's not that necessary but I like the feature. i prefer if they do the faster backstab activation first. It fits more with this das1 baby.
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>>159523218
>>159523159
good job you fucking dumbass

>nigger, leave my waifu alone. i will hit you hard
come hit me
you cant even leave your basement you fucking fat gay cuck
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>>159523218
>everyone does. anon. everyone does
Not really. It's unfinished garbo just like the rest.
Only DeS and BB deserve love, but you can't show that on /dsg/ because of the PCucks.
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Are Chaos and Dark weapons good in DaS3? They seem to get more AR than physical damage weapons.
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>>159523347
not unless you have high fth and int because

>split damage
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>>159523331
>PCucks
post discarded
>>159523309
sai doesn't show where is transparent and where is white, i forgot to check. don't bully still
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>>159523331
I played all of them and loved bb the most but das1 was a great experience.
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>>159523284
In DaS3 it shouldn't be the heavy attack in the offhand, but the weapon art. Just imagine the combinations. Blocking with weapons is a waste considering there are guardbreak ripostes.
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>>159523331
>DeS
>not unfinished
6th Archstone says hello.
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>>159523472
>blocking with weapons is a waste
running attacks come out miles faster when you're blocking, though it's not intended.
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>>159523472
Blocking allows you to buffer running attacks.
It's actually one of the reasons 2kat is bad since you can't block with it 2 handed
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>>159523110
I too would like to know, what weapons would be good for a pyromancy build
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>>159523023
Are you playing online? What plataform? Let me invade you
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>>159523516
So what? They left unfinished content out instead of putting it in the game anyway like the entire second half of DaS.
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>>159523612
instead of nerfed things should be buffed more so everything is good and I can die at peace
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Oh my god, I just realized this guy is Laddersmith Gilligan.
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>>159523472
>mace or caestus offhand
>become poise incarnate
no
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>>159523829
he died doing what he loved.
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>>159523867
snuffing some ashes
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>>159523848
You can already do this, like, don't trade with perseverance, there's a lot of time to back away from
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>>159523848
Perseverance is shit m8.
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If the first flame is going out, why not just put the profaned flame (a flame which never goes out) on the bonfire?
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>>159523612
is this updated for DARK SOULS IIIâ„¢ - Ashes of Ariandelâ„¢?
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I am looking for PC controllerfag to help me beta test EMU, my kicks/quickcast/queue script. Only requirement is to not be a colossal faggot.
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>>159523829
>DaS2 isn't canon
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>>159523967
You would be amazed at how many people are willing to trade blows after you cast Perseverance.
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>>159523960
yeah but you have to 2hand the mace, wa, 1 hand and then start r1 spamming with your rapier/cs/ss
if you could do it immediately, you could do it on reaction and never lose a trade
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>>159523658
>entire second half of DaS
Lol.
Only Lost Izalith and NLR are "clearly unfinished"-tier and even then DaS1 has the same amount of playtime in the first half as Demon's has in the entire game.

For example Catacombs+Totg is easily the length of Shrine of Storms minus the gimmick boss, Demon Ruins+Lost Izalith equals to Stonefang, Dukes and NLR may in themselves be smaller than individual DeS worlds but together they're at least 1 and a half worlds.

So that leaves Burg+Parish+Depths+Blighttown+Anor Londo+Asylum redone+Painted World+Ash Lake/Great Hollow+Darkroot Garden AND basin, Royal Wood, Township and Chasm.

DaS1 has much more content than DeS.
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>>159524041
LOL what a fucking idiot
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>>159524050
>Only requirement is to not be a colossal faggot.
You came to the wrong place.
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>>159524050
literally the only time that's going to be of any help is if you have your controller up your ass vibrating
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Why the fuck are greatswords so fucking broken right now? Literally more braindead than fucking straight swords atm.
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>>159524050
>Only requirement is to not be a colossal faggot.
then why the fuck are you here faggot
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>>159524129
DaS2 has much more content than DaS1.
See the problem?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jdBIjCJ5QI
You should watch the whole series.
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>>159524249
Better good than bad. Learn to fucking play you're the one who's braindead. I bet you keep trying to trade with your curved sword or some stupid shit like that.
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>>159524205
>>159524262
All memes aside, you guys are much better than any other circlejerk DaS community.
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>>159524249
0 requirements
fairly low weight
fairly fast swing speed
movement sets are neato
good damage
hyperarmor on 2handed attacks
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>>159524352
At least /dsg/ (usually) admits when something's shit unlike the other internet hugboxes (reddit).
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>>159524374
it's not hyperarmor it's fucking poise
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>>159524416
in the context of das3 everyone knows what he's talking about tho
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>>159524397
Exactly. People here dont whore for the karma either. Its all in all the best place since DaS community as whole is cancer.
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>>159524295
But the difference is that DaS1 is actually good.
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Excuse me for being late to the party but
>Giant tree seeds everywhere
>2-3 phantoms
>Way of blue
>14 estus, 7 for phantoms on independent use
I skipped DaS2, was that also this bad?
What the fuck happened? Why did they do this? Why does DaS3 handhold so much?
Every fucking invasion is like this too. Every single one. The host just waits by the bonfire summoning phantoms, and if you manage to kill those phantoms well guess what its time to play hanky panky with the host while he rolls yakety sax around you chugging estus and summoning more fucking phantoms.

How do I make this fun?
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>>159524104
>1h CS
What the fuck are you on?

Regardless, it'd actually be something interesting. Perseverance as it is now only works as a way to counter very stupid shit like point blank spears.

With this change, you'd be forced not to 1h certain weapons versus perseverance while still winning trades using ultras
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>>159523218
Thanks...I rolled off anyway before I read this and it wasn't so bad, I'm so glad I invested in the longbow, its come super in handy in this entire area

>>159523640
No way! I always die to invaders, I think I only killed one back in Oolacile township, but he was doing the heavy roll in the havel set so it was kinda easy to just hit and run

And I'm going to bed, I got to the Bed of Chaos boss and hit one of the things but I died because the floor just broke out from underneath me

Also these Dr. Seuss enemies are very silly
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>>159524545
There is no point in arguing with dastards.
Have a nice day.
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>>159524528
We fish for (you)s instead though.

I could start DaS 2 vs 3 posting right now and get a ton if I wanted
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>>159524374
>straightswords are still good
>curved swords are still good
>rapiers are still good
>spears are still good
>maces are decent now
>greatswords are good now
>axes are decent kind of

we need more of this instead of nerfing shit

there are weapons that greatsword can't poise through if you guys want a tip
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>>159524639
everyone knows you need to 2hand your cs to be a proper faggot, but it's one extra step either way, i decided not to include it for sake of ease
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>>159524668
I'm going to hug you
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>>159524710
True, but yous at least arent collectible. Imagine you argued with someone and he said "yeah fuck you, I have 237 yous while you only have 49".
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>>159524569
Yeah, DaS 2 and 3 are kinda hugboxy.
3 gives more resources but 2 gave you invasion timers and the invaded player could hide or reach areas an invader couldn't and just wait you out.
BB was a nice midway thing without everything too broken at first, but you'd only find super gems guys online now
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>>159524569
>I skipped DaS2, was that also this bad?

There wasn't an invasion culture in DaS2 like there is in DaS and DaS3. Invasions were very limited. Phantoms couldn't heal if there was an invader, so there was less healing but invaders were on a timer.
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>>159524249
Black Knight greatsword is literally the single most broken weapon in the entire game right now.

Completely and utterly retarded.
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>>159525007
HAH GET FUCKED
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>>159524050
>>159524352
Come on guys, I need a beta tester and I know all of you betas can test.
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>>159524874
That's exactly what Lucy does
>but not everyone uses a trip
Well, he still gets his effects effortlessly compared to regular posts
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>>159524295
>>159524685
I was watching that guy's first video and I realized there was no point in listening to the rest of his critique after he was bawwwing about the Batwing drmons before the Anor Londo archers. I'll watch this joker's vids all the way when I get home but right now I don't want to waste any more mobile data on his faggotry.
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>>159525098
Just throwing out that I'd help but I'm a k&m fag
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>>159525102
Who are you talking about?
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>>159525042
?
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>>159524569
You couldn't get invaded outside of the shit area defender covenants in DaS2.
I was invaded maybe a total of 3 times on my first DaS2 playthrough.

DS3 is a godsend because it at least lets people invade like DeS did.
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>>159525237
yes you read it right
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It works... I guess?
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>>159524295
What a shitty video, he does not understand the O+S fight nor weapon upgrades/stats at all yet mocks it for its slowness.
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>>159525208
>he doesn't know
How new are you?
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>>159525334
I've already had sex though, unlike you :^)
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>>159525102
Cant argue that, but its only few faggots. Meanwhile on reddit or steam community, its all of them.

>>159525173
So am I. You can check EMU out on nexus and leave a feedback. That would help too. But right now I finished some heavy controller update so looking for controllerfags.
nexusmods.com/darksouls3/mods/83/
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>>159525414
damn it
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>>159524892
Though I dislike the invasion timer now, it was a fix for hyperpassive assholes that wait for backup.
Hosting in the forest in DaS1 was bullshit at japtime, since they had some proto bloodshade thing going on. Fucking havelmom legion.
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>>159525394
yeah i guess it works if the enemy drops a prism stone pointblank
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>>159521510

When I fought him he jumped up and somehow got stuck and ended up falling out of the map and dying.
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>>159525208
We don't quantify (you)s or whatever reddit's system is called, but stay around long enough and you get notoriously remembered by a name and, while it's almost always negative, you can still use this persona to dismiss stuff from others. Even if you use no trip, they may avatarfag, be FC regulars in /dsg/s case or just be a guy who keeps repeating the same opinion.
Just see how many posts regarding lucy, FCfags, PCuck poster or so on are about them having a shit image, it's the same thing as happens there
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>>159525523
But you already can eject invaders by challenging the boss
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>>159525256
>You couldn't get invaded outside of the shit area defender covenants in DaS2.
I got plenty invaders in the first months, especially blues. Release time was the best in Souls history invasion wise, because no staggered release.
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>>159525256
>I was invaded maybe a total of 3 times on my first DaS2 playthrough.
Wow, just like DaS3? Unless you're fingered, you'll be invaded once after starting the game, and that's it. Except for wolf/aldrich covenant areas, of course.
I invaded a shitton of people in DaS2, the only "problem" was the lack of infinite orbs, which was easily bypassed by save backups.
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>>159523983
The profaned flame is corrupted or something putting the "life" of the world with this would probably fucked up the universe
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>>159525523
>invaded forest in non havelmom build
>forestmom came behind me and chainstabbed me to death then went back to hiding as I watched it

Those japs were insane
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FUCKING HATE SEATH'S TAIL

FUCKING
HATE
IT
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>>159525848
SO

FUCKING

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNGGGGG
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>>159525417
I'll give it a look then, good luck
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>>159525598
So what, next invader did the same shit because it payed off. In DaS2 invaders had to be aggressive, which ruined chameleon shenanigans though.
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What gauntlets work well with cleric robes for the "I'm actually wearing armor under that shit" look?
I'm wearing knight gauntlets at the moment, but I'm not 100% satisfied with them.
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>2hr2 with heavy claymore at 50str only does 291 damage
So this is the power of strength builds...
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>>159526097
>uses a quality weapon on str build instead of millwood axe or other str shit
>complains
are all str users this dumb
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>>159525913
I liked this.

>>159525898
Thanks mate, I just need one controllerfag and all would be great.
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>>159525903
It doesn't pay off because the invader gets sent home with no reward and you only lose a homeward bone
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>>159525668
>Release time was the best in Souls history invasion wise
unless you were playing on pc which got it like 1.5 months after
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>>159525903
There was no next invader. I reached the boss, he lost his fun time and I can just kill it to be free.
If I just bone out, this means I was after PvP, at which point fairness doesn't matter.
2 makes it so that, if I find a gank, they can not approach areas where I can fight them to get some little help and just wait me out
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>>159526205
Noone gets to fight, except it doesn't bother the invader.
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I'm really close to buying a bloodbornebox

someone stop me
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>>159526225
PC is completely irrelevant to Souls, so no one cares about their delayed releases

In fact its probably good thing, faggots would have datamined everything and spoiled the game for everyone in less than a day
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>>159526154
Are there any decent strength-based greatswords?
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Seriously, people say unironically that pyro is balanced lol.
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>>159526380
wait for ps4 pro
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>>159525523
>invading at sen's
>get nip fightclub on the top of the towers
>They are ALL wearing the same combination of havels armor and hollow soldier shit
>They are ALL using hornet rings, probably the same secondary ring too, FAP or something
>They are ALL using clubs
>Watch them for a while with binoculars
>They just keep circling around eachother trying to backstab
>Eventually they notice me and I jump off a cliff
>Continually get them throughout the course of the day. Literally all day because NEET life and maxing humanity
>Same thing every time
What the fuck is wrong with nips?
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>>159526556
is a bloodborne patch likely? I don't care about the other games
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>>159526561
The final form of DaS's meta, perfection
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>>159526467
no, if you want greatswords you go either quality, int, faith or pyro
your only str options are firelink greatsword or executioner gs both of which are meh
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>PC invasions in a nutshell
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>>159526467

Not really, but the Flamberge is the best one for a strength build.
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post your main characters from each game
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>>159526731
no
>>
pcfcbf
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Invasion timers would be fantastic if you had to use a consumable to prolong time.
Invader is being a passive dick? Stay on his ass until he gets send home. Host is being a passive dick? Pop a token of spite.
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>>159526796
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>>159526893
Use the white hollow mage robe in 2 for maximum fashion, friend.
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>>159526893
DaS1 pyromancy was the best. I miss it not being tied to stats and the chaos lava actually being useful.
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>>159526556
that's stupid, the regular ones will be a lot cheaper soon
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>>159526954
>only change is that now the host stay at the bonfire for 30 minutes with his buttbuddies

So amazing. Timers are cancerous as fuck and they only help against certain ways of griefing like blocking areas
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>>159527057
yeah when the pro comes out
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>>159526893

>das1 still has the best looking pyromancies

How is this possibe?
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>>159525848
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>>159526897
so why should I wait
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>>159527046
I miss stronger magic than fth and int for no stat investment too.
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>>159527187
idk ask the other anon
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>>159527138
Because it wasn't meant to be used by edgylords.
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>>159526991

Yeah, really glad I started recording my invasions regularly when I play. You miss out on some golden moments otherwise, that can't be shown with just a screencap, and no one will believe you without the video and subsequent webm.
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>>159527092
>only change is that now the host stay at the bonfire for 30 minutes with his buttbuddies
So like it is right now without timers?
You realise that with timers, the host would loose his buddies if the invader played smart?
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>>159526893
t. Claire
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>invading in the early parts of the DLC when the host and his group are getting ganked by a bazillion doggos
>host gets greedy and grabs the item which triggers the big bad wolf
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>>159527046
it was honestly a litle too strong
with just bellowing dragon and duck crown my GCFB did 1k+ not counting lava
the only reason it wasn't super broken is because of only 4 casts of it and since casting was super rigid

GCFO is still super good in 3, it's basically still the strongest projectile

>>159527138
it doesn't though, basically all of the particle effects look like ass compared to 3's
try turning the spell effects up
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>>159527138
Because they didn't care about performance.
Daily reminder that blighttown had single digit fps.
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>>159527324
the megawolf is fucking amazing for dealing with ganks, even better if you can get them to run into the second encounter because the snow ledge after it only cancels fall damage for whoever triggered it. you can get low HP to bait out a chase and then run onto it, 90% of the time the host and his phantoms will dive off after you, likely killing themselves in the process
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>>159527287
>send one friend home before timer
>resummon him
>now do the same for the other

As it is now, the incentive ganks have to fight you is that they will not recycle their player pool until you're gone. With tiners, eventually some dumbass walks into it, without it, you can turn it into a patience war and force them to progress by hiding away from them and mobs
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Does anyone have recommendations for armor pieces that go well with yurias mask and the onyx blade/ dark pyros? Im basically going for the occult knight kinda look.
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>>159526427
>pc is irrelevant to Souls
Except that maybe a third of Souls game sales are on pc.
>>
literally who's claire
>>
>>159527608
my gf
>>
Scott Tryhard actually right about Crow Quills
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>>159527608
t. Claire
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>>159524249
t. pyroshitters
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>>159527701
>>159527703
Using signatures is not allowed in 4chan. Prepare to get banned.
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>>159527703
But pyroshitters are the ones who benefit from the greatsword buff the most, numbnuts.
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>>159527691
Did he reveal the r1r1l1?
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I AM SO FUCKING BORED

I DON'T WANNA FIGHT GWYN

ME BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORED
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>>159527797
Everything except quality is shit and cancer.
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>>159527797
Why
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>>159527836
It's not true combo and you can be parried between R1 and L1
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>>159527605
And most of the playerbase is on ps4. You can oretend all you want but they don't give a shit about PC and let Namco handle most of it
Just look at how halfassed was the ban wave
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>>159527881
This.
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Anyone on ps4 willing to toss a wolf ring +2 my way? I'll help transfer items in return.
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>>159527958
The pc release for DS3 happened at the same time as the consoles in the west. Although yeah, that was From publishing it in Japan and they put the PS4 audience first.

Still, you're deluded if you think they don't care about the profits multiplat development has given them.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPrB8jJ4oGU
DS3 version of CCS R1 R1 rollcatch and WP running R1 when?
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Best non-avelyn pvp xbow?
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>>159527553
If you can reset a timer it would function similarly to no timer if you want to play patience war with the exception that aggressiveness is rewarded. Also if they added the eye pointer to timer resets it would lessen the hide and seek bullshit DaS3 has.
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>>159527138

Nostalgia.
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Is Friede's scythe worth using?

>>159527864
Start a new meme run then
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>>159528330
>Is Friede's scythe worth using?
yeah, it's good
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>>159527864
Enjoy some quality DaS1 pvp :^)
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>>159528470
this is hilarious
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>>159528313

How is it nostalgia if I used DaS1 pyro just last week?
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>>159528470
Reminder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg
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>>159528470
>>>>DaS1 pvp
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>>159528601
Do you play 3 with the settings all the way down?
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>>159528601

Mental illness.
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>>159528470
Jeez I didn't remember it being so slow.
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>>159528185
Then why have they put no effort concerning bans?
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>>159528470
Anybody that claims DaS1's pvp was the second coming of Christ is either a complete retard or has some serious nostalgia goggles on. Doesn't take away the fact you could do some really fancy shit that the later games missed out on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdWqc129xiU
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Does the black knight in smouldering lake respawn?
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>>159527582
plis help
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>>159528795
Yes
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>>159528795
yeah
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>>159528227
Knight's (in water areas) > Arbalest > Heavy > Knight's
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>>159528470
Enjoy some quality DaS3 pvp :^)
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>>159528795
Both of them do, yeah.
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>>159524337
>>159524727
Not him, but what can you do against a GS 2h R1, aside from pull out a spear and poke from outside their range, or kite them with magic/crossbows/etc?

If you get in their range, they will trade with you and win. Their swings are fast enough, and their HA lasts for so much of their swings, that you can't really interrupt them between 2hR1 swings like you can with ultra weapons.

If they have enough poise, they can even HA through other HA weapons such as maces and other greatswords. Even ultras can be poised through if they have full havels + wolf ring and a poise refresh.

At this point, Greatsword R1 is the new CCS R1.
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>Try invading Profaned Capital at level 10 +2
>Actually find a guy

Huh
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>>159528775

Good ol' Yami Tamashi.
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>>159528806
Yuria's mask reveals the neck almost always, so you already know.
I haven't tested those chests myself, but try Morne, BK or Dickwraith.
For cloth you could always use Cornyx's.
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>>159520146
games tend to look alot nicer on modern platforms than mid/early ps3 games

unless you mean gameplay which didnt change at all til BB/DS3 when they started getting anime as hell
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>>159528818
>>159528823
>>159528903
time to get me one of them axes
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>>159527582
Billed mask
Black Knight Armor
Black Knight gauntlets
Dancer's Leggings

Billed Mask
Vilhelm's armor
Fallen Knight Gauntlets
Vilhelm's Leggings
(literally the Cainhurst set)

Hope you have the vitality to pull this off
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>>159528920
>Greatsword R1 is the new CCS R1.
Lmao. GS 2HR1 always was like this.
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>>159520452
It would be cooler if instead of a 3rd phase, after the other gets to half life the other goes into hypermode. Ariandel gets out of his chair and stands up, Friede goes full nothin personnel
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>>159528775
Can we agree the montages at least use better music?
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>>159528956
when twinks collide
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>>159528825
The water doesn't give any extra damage to Players standing in water.
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>>159528854
>DaS1 pvp
>hosts could use estus, invaders could only use humanity to heal (or dbs)
>DaS3 pvp
>both hosts and invaders could use estus but invaders got half as much, no other healing items other than ONE (1) db and siegbraus
The only possible reason you could see DaS being better is if you were a db munching shitter that had infinite heals.
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>>159528775
Still best PVP.
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>>159529118

Lightning xbow bolts emit a large aoe effect when they hit water, though
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>>159529118
It grants you a bigger AoE.
You don't ever aim crossbows at people unless it's knight's outside water.
You use arbalest/heavy and free aim explosive bolts or, when in water, emit the insane AoE lightning damage has with knight's
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>>159528920
I have a curved greatsword and the running attacks interrupts greatswords every time. You can even poise through with weapon art. Hammers and ultra greatswords can break their poise at least, and if you have a lot of poise greathammers can poise through with 2hr1s, though it should be said that black knight sword has more poise damage than other greatswords. With faster light weapons, which HA SHOULD excell against, you really can't do much.
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>>159529138
Estus is punishable in DS1
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>>159528730
Because people begged them to do something and the only way to manage checking the players was to do simple item checks.
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>go to sleep thinking about what new build to make
>have a dream about a super fun build
>wake up and forget everything
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>>159529343
>fun build
>DS3
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>>159529138
Outside dbs being too fast t's a great system though.

>both sides can theorically have infinite heals, however, you can't ever pull any of them off unless you EARN it
>in 3, whenever you do anything besides running in my direction I can use estus for free

If you try pulling this funny shit in 1, you get backstabed while I can literally walk away from backstabs while sipping in 3
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>>159528775
Best PvP by far. See 7:26. Them hitboxes man.
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>>159529081
No it wasn't.

Official AoA patch notes:
>Improved regular attack animations of greatsword category weapons.

Their attacks are faster and the character steps forward more, giving it more range and less vulnerability between swings.
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>>159529439
>you can sipping on ladges in DS3
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>>159529526
>Their attacks are faster and the character steps forward more,
Only 1HR1
For 2H mode only second R1 got speed up and thats all
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>>159529526
Did you actually even check them out? The staggered first 2hr1 is pretty much enchanged. The following attacks and the 1h moveset are what got improved.
>being hit by the 2nd 2hr1 outside a combo
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>>159528990
>>159529063
Build isnt fully leveled yet so vit could be leveled if necessary. Thanks for the suggestions, ill try them out. Kinda sad that the closest set we got to the yaharghul set from bb is fallen knight.
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>>159523829
yep, they literally copy pasted the Ds2 quality character model as you can see
>>
Rate me salty sea dog
>>
Alright lads, I'm trying to make a list of the weapons that are the best at 66 Str/Heavy or 40-60 Dex Sharp, compared to 40/40 Refined. Care to help me? I'm only looking at pure Dex/Str weapons only, so hybrids with Int/Fai are not considered:

Pure Dex weapons:
- Chaos Blade
- Crow Quills
- Sellsword Twinblades
- Scimitar
- Painting Guardian's Curved Sword
- Rotten Ghru Curved Sword
- Rapier
- Ricard's Rapier
- most daggers I think?
- Pontiff Knight Great Scythe
- Whip, Notched Whip, Spotted Whip
- Bloodlust

Pure Str weapons:
- Fume UGS
- Millwood Axe
- Millwood Greatbow
- Butcher Knife
- Yhorm's Machete
- Greataxe
- pretty much all great hammers
- Follower Javelin

I think that's all of them?
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Reminder Flamberge does more than the Claymore.
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>>159529849
Executionars Greatsword for pure Strenght.
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>>159529842
Skinny legs, dumb hat.
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And my cold knight.
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Finally gold in the arena.
Greathammer buff when
Heavy armor buff when
Why has miyazaki forsaken me
>>
Worth it leveling my SL80 STR guy up to 100/120?

Also, some of you guys are lvl 100?
Did you regret going that high? Wouldn't it be better to just straight go up to 120 to decrease the number of higher leveld opponents?
>>
What weapons should I grab on my way through the game as pyro? Last time I tried (I got bored of the game right around time I started the attempt) raw ASS was the hot shit, so much so that I don't even remember if they were other options.
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>>159529953
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>>159529882
Fuck I miss the AOE attacks on the MLGS from DaS1.

>inb4 the one in 3 is a fake one
>>
HOLY SHIT GUYS

CHOSEN UNDEAD IS IN SMASH 4 ANNOUNCED AS DLC CHARACTER
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>>159530174
Yeah, sure, faggot
>>
>>159530174

Did you expect this to work on even one person, or are you just scraping for the weakest (You)s you can get
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>>159530059
Raw ASS is still your best bet for the early game.
You can get a Followers Sabre early and infuse it with dark, it get B/B scaling in Int/Fth.

Thrall Axe, Astora Greatsword, Carthus Curved Greatsword, Great Corvian Scythe and Winged Spear get excellent scaling with either Chaos or Dark.
>>
On a faith build for pvp I know, bear with me here am I better off using a lightning-infused or dark-infused weapon for when I'm not buffing? Dark ends up with ~25-30AR less on medium-sized weapons, but I'm not sure how that stacks up against everyone having a bunch of END.
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>>159529849
No
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>>159529256
>I have a curved greatsword and the running attacks interrupts greatswords every time.
Curved greatswords have the same poise damage as UGS/Greataxes. With the running attack, I guess that may be possible, but Curved Greatswords are so slow and predictable that I image a GS user shouldn't have much trouble dealing with them.

>Hammers and ultra greatswords can break their poise at least, and if you have a lot of poise greathammers can poise through with 2hr1s
Regular Hammers would need full Havels + Wolf ring and a poise refresh to resist a GS 2hR1. Greatswords have a better HA multiplier, so they could HA through a hammer 2hR1 with the same poise, even without a poise refresh. GS also have much better range than hammers, as well as thrusting attacks that can take advantage of leo ring counters.

>though it should be said that black knight sword has more poise damage than other greatswords
I hadn't heard of that. Link to source/testing?

>With faster light weapons, which HA SHOULD excell against, you really can't do much.
Having one weapon completely invalidate over 50% of the other weapons in the game isn't very good game design IMO. If the GS moveset hadn't been improved in the last patch, it would be more fair since fast weapons might have a chance to poke them between attacks. But the speed/range improvements mean GS pretty much have no weaknesses against lighter weapons.
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>>159530025

If you only fight with /DSG/ like me it won't matter.
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>>159530348
GS 2h moveset was pretty much unchanged, and you could already easily HA through light weapons. No idea why people only start realizing it now.
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>>159530356
>/DSG/
You're banned
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz4kRvAeopw
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Is there anything more infuriating than a host that rushes the boss fog the second you invade?
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>>159530330
Most people have shit dark resist unless they're also FAI, so you'll probably do more damage than with the lightning unless they're a dragon body.
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>>159530305
Ah, that's good that there's options for other weapon classes than just SS. How soon can I get a dark gem? Wiki says pus of man but it doesn't say how good of a chance it is.
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>>159530635
Invaders who complain about the host running to the boss fog
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>>159530597

Don't do this to me...
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>>159530726
There's literally no way to stop them
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>>159530635
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>>159529973
how long did it take?
I remember having a 65% winrate with my havel until the bun
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>>159530635

>Invaded by nigger
>Wearing as much Havels/Smoughs/LK gear as they can without fatrolling
>Hit them a few times and take away maybe 5% of their health

That's when I head for the fog/nearest elevator. I'm not gonna chip through that shit just to watch them heal up with one of their 7 +10 flasks or 99 siegbraus.
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>>159524087
It's not that they are willing it's that their animation is locked into attacking
I would know, I use it myself and know to avoid it but sometimes you just attacked when you shouldn't have.
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>>159530724
In the DLC there's one in the Corvian Settlement. You can easily speedrun it once you reach the Cathedral of the Deep.
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>>159530645
That's what I figured. It's a bit weird not going for a lightning weapon but it just seems to make more sense considering the average player's defenses.

Thanks!
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For DaS1: if I let Solaire die in Lost Izalith, can I get the entire Sunlight set from him then?

Furthermore, is it just me or is DaS1 fairly easy? I played Demon's Souls > Dark Souls II > Dark Souls and I found DaS1 much easier than the former two. Yeah, Kalameet, Artorias and Manus gave me some hell but the main, non-DLC bosses were piss-easy. Anyone else have that feeling?
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>>159530825
That's only 10 siegbraus
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>>159530724
You might as well just wait to get the one in Catacombs from the second skeleball because you can't even infuse it until you get the coal from Irythill Dungeon.
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>>159530742
I'll get your character name and ip
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>>159530872
That didn't even occur to me, I'm so used to normal/quality builds that I forget there's a fuckload of other infusion types and that you actually need coals for them.
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>>159530869

It's cancer
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>>159530584
>No idea why people only start realizing it now.
Same for Pyro
Same for GS
Modern west souls audience are shitters who can only copy e-celebs builds from their shit videos
>shield+spear/rapier poisestab SOON
BB pvp as I remember was more comfy because e-celebs dropped game
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>>159530860
Ds1 is your third souls game, the games are roughly the same difficulty but you're leaps and bounds better than you were then.
>>
I'm so lonely I wish someone would add me on steam after i helped them kill the boss or when I join fight clubs. I always rush to get summoned when someone on /dsg/ asks for help but nobody ever adds me...
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>>159531245
What's your steam qt?
Just add people instead when you go to FCs
>>
Is DaS1 still (reasonably) alive? I haven't played it through again apart from my first run and that was years ago and I was a shitter so I was always hollow. I kinda want to do it through again now.
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>>159531106

I'm not sure that's it, though.
In DaS1 there seems to be no penalty for death. in DeS you basically needed to be hollowed to not fuck up your world affinity (ie: 50/75% HP), and there were far less healing items.
in DaS2 you got far less healing, more bosses, and everything was finite.
in DaS1 meanwhile, you keep your health even after hollowing, humanity is gotten from killing hostile NPC's and everything can be easily farmed to get +15/+10 gear by mid-game, along with a shitton of souls.
Along with the ludicrous amounts of Estus you get I can basically dripfeed myself on the stuff, drinking after every undead hollow hits me for 3% HP and still have like 7 Estus left over for the boss, all of which can be beating by getting close, circling them and chipping at their heels.
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Horsehoof ring or knight slayer ring for shitting on people who just backup with their shield up for hours?
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How high do you need to go on INT and FAI for pyro? 40/40 or 60/60, wouldn't the latter eat basically all your levels?
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>>159530860
I played all the games in order.

IMO:
>DeS was "hard" mostly because it was clunky/unbalanced in certain ways
>DaS was hard at first, but became easy once I mastered the basics due to good mechanics/balance
>DaS2 was hard in a frustrating way due to bad hitboxes and sluggish character movement
>BB was hard due to higher speed and bosses having tons of health
>DaS3 was pretty easy since it's basically BB with bosses having less health

So I'd agree that DaS can be easier, but that's partially because it has the best game mechanics in the series.
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>>159531316
But that will make me seem desperate and creepy...
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>>159531572

4040
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>>159530348
>but Curved Greatswords are so slow and predictable that I image a GS user shouldn't have much trouble dealing with them.
the running attack isn't enough, but if you use a left hand rapier for example I found myself very succesful against greatswords. and well against anything but that's beyond the point. As I mentioned before the weapon art can be used too for a very good trade.

>hammer part
Actually both the hammer and the greatsword would be interrupted, because greatswords can't poise through hammers either. GS wins the trade unless you use a warpick with leo ring. Not to mention that hammers have a longer forward momentum now.

>I hadn't heard of that. Link to source/testing?
A table of poise weapon poise damage. sorry too lazy to provide it to you but it's like only by a little so don't bother.

>Having one weapon completely invalidate over 50% of the other weapons in the game isn't very good game design IMO.
what it invalidates are curved swords, rapiers, katana and straight swords, which are all godly for their own reasons don't forget.

I can't tell you greatswords are shit, sorry, they are REALLY good now but I think it's not the end of the world.

There's one thing that bothers me about them though. Multiple times I traded with a greatsword, we both got interrupted, and the person still had time to get another r1 in before I got out of being stunned. This annoys me a lot.
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>>159531656
too late for that
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Wow such an original DLC:

>a reskin Legion of Farron
>you guys liked Sif right?
>YOU GUYS REALLY LIKED SIF RIGHT?
>a river of blood, havent seen that before in a DLC
>unironic crab reskin
>a boss that's a religious women
>with 3 phases
>a big monster thats in pain and screeshes the most annoying shit before attacking

Hopefully they're done with the series after the second DLC, Creative bankcruptcy at its finest.

2nd DLC better be something completely new like Carthus or Londor related

>inb4 its a Oolacille reskin BECAUSE YOU RIKED THAT RIGHT?

Fuck the throwbacks and bloodborne-copying, make something original From.
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>>159530860
In terms of difficulty:

BB>DaS3>DaS2>DaS>DeS
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>>159531701
Wow such an original post.

What the fuck did you think you were getting yourself into with FROM? Referencing their own shit a lot is something they've been doing forever.
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oceiros, at the fog gate

pc, psw: benis

gonna wait a bit
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I use the Carthus shotel for my bleed build (Yes, I know the curved sword is better).

Should I switch to the Corvian Claws? They seem fun
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>>159531701
ENB disliked DS3 but really loved the DLC.
That means it has to be good and you're wrong.
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>>159531656
You already are, we don't really mind
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>>159531813
There is a big difference between referencing your own game and outright copying shit.

>>159531893
That's the guy who couldn't take a few comments on youtube and is now streaming Overwatch on Twitch? Yeah, the voice of the community right?
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>>159531893
maybe enb is a bit simple minded, like onlyafro
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>>159531701
Someone posted about this a few days ago and it made me realise how fucking true it is: Miyazaki doesn't care about anything that isn't a completely original starting point. Look at the quality of DeS, DaS1 and BB compared to DaS3. Although I still find it enoyable to play through there's no denying that a major chunk of DaS3 is just phoned in.
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>>159531972
Das3 is "Dark Souls: Greatest Hits" at this point.
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>>159531847

You know your name is censored
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>>159531667
>because greatswords can't poise through hammers either
They definitely can, even without a poise refresh.

Hammers can only poise through greatswords WITH a poise refresh AND full Havels + Wolf Ring.

>Multiple times I traded with a greatsword, we both got interrupted, and the person still had time to get another r1 in before I got out of being stunned. This annoys me a lot.
That's because different weapons have different levels of stun. I'm not sure what what the details are, but weapons like daggers can't trade with other light weapons for the same reason. Even on a double hit, daggers cause much less stun, so the opponent recovers faster and can hit you first.
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>>159531965
It's what they've been doing all along, it's the same in AC as well. But even ignoring those, if you're still surprised by it this many games into the Souls series I'm not sure what to tell you. You don't have to keep eating something if you think it tastes like shit, you know.
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>>159531967
OnlyAfro disliked the DLC, though, and was bitching and meme-spouting throughout the entire thing.
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>>159530825
bullshit, you can wear full havels and still die insanely quick. Heavy armor is trash
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I keep getting partial parries.

Does that mean I'm parrying too early or too late?
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>>159532087
so?
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>Didn't realize maxing out a weapon locks you into a singular MM category

Can I fix this without rerolling?
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>>159532186
slightly too late I think
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>>159532221
>MM category
what
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>>159532165

The trick is to do it at places like High Wall after pumping vig. People have shitty starter weapons that do like 150 damage on a backstab.
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>>159531847
>>159532207
Still need help?
Because my sign has been down for the last two minutes.
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>>159532114
There is absolutely nothing wrong with references like the MLGS and Patches being in every game. Subtle winks and nods to bosses and characters from previous games are also fine. But when you outright copy bosses' their movesets and backstory it gets lazy and unoriginal. For all the shit DaS2 got, at least it tried to do something different.
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>>159532221
You mean weapon memory?

No, you need to create a new character. Weapon memory is permanent.
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>>159532278
Matchmaking. I was told having a +10 weapon locks you out of invasions and the like with everyone but other 10s
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>>159532319
its dead
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>>159532186
it also can be latency.
I don't know if this a viable way of testing it, but throw a knife and see the difference between the hit and the hp being reduced
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>>159531948
>>159531691
I can't post my id now of you guys think I'm creepy and weird and have to wait for another time before adding anyone again...
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>>159532314
you need 50 vigor + Fap+2 + havels+2 just to fatroll with havels

>>159532368
its +/-2 levels so you should be able to invade people with a +8/9 weapon too
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>>159531361
>in DeS you had way less healing items
Nigger this isn't true in any shape nor form. Demon's Souls throws stacks of healing grasses at you and has powerful regen. DaS2 is the same minus regen.

DaS1 you can have a max of 20 EStus and then maybe 99 Humanities and Twin humanities but that's only in the lategame.

DaS3 has the most balanced heals overall from the Souls series combiming the regen from Demon's but not having infinite stacks of healing items.
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>>159532339
>copy NPC exactly
>it's somehow subtle and fine
>copy boss moveset
>it's somehow not subtle and unoriginal
???????????
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>>159532339
>But when you outright copy bosses' their movesets
If you're referring to the Great Wolf = Sif meme, you should kill yourself.
Their movesets aren't even remotely similar.

Not even Maria and Friede are, despite their similarities.

Maybe you should fuck back off to /v/.
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>>159532368
No, the highest upgraded weapon you have determines who you can invade:

http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/online

With a +10 weapon, you can only invade someone who has a +7 weapon or better. Doesn't matter if you're not using the weapon or even throw it away. Once you have a +10 weapon, you're in that bracket.
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>>159532093
it says there you need 48 poise to poise through a hammer 2hr1 with a greatsword, right? so most non minmaxed for poise people are definitely going to have their poise broken. My point wasn't about hammer poising through greatsword, it was only about interrupting it.

>greatsword stun time
I was using one handed curved greatsword by the way. so maybe hammer trading against greatsword might lead you to being hit again? though the greatsword user might only get hit again if they try to swing. I wonder.

oh, glaives with high poise damage like gundyr's halberd might be good for whiff punishing greatswords.
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>>159531245
I'll add you. I have literaly 0 friends on steam. All my irl friends play on xbone because for some reason its the most propular around here
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undead grapes gundyr, at gate

pc, psw: benis
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Are you a real invader?

>Well... uh, technically, ah... na.

Have you ever killed a good guy? Like a... like a real sunfag?

>Na.

Have you ever tried a false white ring?

>Na... na.

Alright! I can see that I will have to teach you how to be invaders!
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>>159532443
You can't escape from this, post it.
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>>159532443
If you come to an FC I'll allow you to add anyone you want
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>>159531893
I disagree with ENB on DS3 being bad but I can see why he liked the dlc.

>>159531701
>I hope we see something Londor related
Nigger, we just took down the founder of the Sable church.

But it's possible that the 2nd dlc has the third sister.
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>>159532636
top kek
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can I still use the pyro flame with 60 int like in DaS2?
Or do I need the faith now to max it's damage?
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>>159531361
Ds2 and des had infinite healing stock. Don't even try man. 99 grass and 99 lifegems is easymode.
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>>159519515
I don't get what's stopping you from using magic and weapons at once? With 60 int and some str/dex investment you can just go Flame Tinder to cast/and melee people to death all you want.
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Have you ever had a crush on a /dsg/let before?
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>>159533135
Y-yes
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>>159533135
I'm going to marry Zilrael!
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>>159532507
Greatwolf has more in common with Royal Rat Authority than Sif. From always copies a lot of shit like movesets from previous titles if they possibly can.
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>>159533004
Not him but.... In DaS you could get 99 humanity.

Fair, not as easy to get as lifegems or grass, but still very easy to get. You could even use it as an invader.

DaS 3 has the best healing mechanics, even though I think you get too much estus.
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>>159533280
humanity was extremely punishable unlike lifegems or grass
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>>159531965
>hating on based ENB
I don't think it's about him being thin skinned and more of it being purely money/effort based thing, but the move is easy to justify with effort. Also, he keeps saying he wants to do an in-depth Demon's Souls run.
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>>159533342
Pretty much the same anymation as lifegems, and you got full health instantly, while lifegems granted you health over time.
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>>159533135
I had a light crush on a certain crusader. I think crazy people are cute.
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>>159533135
>crush
>on some random person you found in an anonymous peruvian hamster trading board
>crushes in general
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Is it worth going 60 DEX for Sharp Crow Quills, or should you just stay at 40 and dump the rest into vig/end/vit?
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>>159533445
lifegems had like half the animation time and you could move while using them, so not really
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>running through NG++ for rings
>summon someone at the high wall for fun
>we destroy vordt before he enters his second phase
>go to the undead settlement
>he's there again
>summon him again
>rush through the area but only to the fire Demon because I want to keep hodrick alive
>his summon sign is at the road of sacrifices again
>realise that I had my dsg password and he kept appearing because of that
<3
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>>159533135
I had a crush on some FC-hosting and fun DaS1 player way back when.

Turned out later she was a dyke and behind most of the "pastatime" and general shitposting.
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>>159533570
it gives then like 25 AR, irrelevant, either stay on lower level or use those points for more relevant stats
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>>159533394
>>159533556
Stop hating on BFs!
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>>159533135
Zullie because (s)he? might be the only person here who doesn't reply to mindless provocation/shitposts and I admire that
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>>159533717
This stupid meme needs to die already
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I just noticed this. Holy fuck, it's disgusting.
Fucking FROM man, I swear.
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Can someone drop me cornyx's chest piece? My pyro phantom died killing the boss.
I'll be in pontiff, ps4, pw is cornyx
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dragonslayer armour, at gate

pc, psw: benis

need a minute to get there
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>>159532575
>it says there you need 48 poise to poise through a hammer 2hr1 with a greatsword, right?
Yes, which is achievable with heavy armor + wolf ring. So that means a GS user with at least 48.31 poise can NEVER get interrupted by a Hammer 2hR1 during HA frames.

On the other hand, a Hammer is not guaranteed to poise through a GS, even with full Havel's + Wolf ring (52.14 posie). You need to take into account that this chart assumes you have MINIMUM poise health, which is effectively 80% of max poise health as of the latest patch. However, having max poise health (100%, aka a poise "refresh") would decrease the amount needed.

For example, hammers need 61.55 poise to withstand a GS with only 80% poise health. To calculate how much you need with 100% poise health, first we determine how much poise damage we're taking:

>100 - 61.55 = 38.45

So, at 80% poise health, you can take 38.45% of a Greatsword's poise damage and still not lose HA. Thus, at 100% poise health, you could take 25% more poise damage, because:

>100/80 = 1.25

So, we find that the % of a greatsword's poise damage that is survivable at 100% poise health is:

>38.45 * 1.25 = 48.0625

Thus, If we have 100% poise health, we can HA through a GS poise damage with:

>100 - 48.0625 = 51.9375

51.9375 poise. This would require full Havel's + Wolf ring, but it is doable.

>My point wasn't about hammer poising through greatsword, it was only about interrupting it.
If you're not wearing heavy armor for poise, then that's correct. But if you are, than a GS can poise through a hammer 100% of the time, while a hammer can only poise through a GS when they have 100% poise health.
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>>159522647
Lightning fists and thunderbolts are all you need when you bring forth God's judgement.
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>>159533903
screw that, i have yet to kill the deacons on my pyro, i'll be in highwall of lothric.
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>fightign Living Failures with 260AR saif
End me
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>Pontiff transforms his subordinates into the beasts because they are more faithful to him this way and won't abandon their duty
>most likely was inspired by the wolf packs roaming around his birthplace
>Pontiff tries to reset the cycle naturally by stopping the Ashen one from linking the Fire
>exactly as painted world dwellers are allowing the painted worlds to die and be reborn instead of rotting
>Friede wields a frost greatscythe
>Pontiff is the only known creator of frost weaponry in the game
>some exemplars of flora in painted world is the same as the one growing in Irithyll which means he brought some with him when he left
>his obsession with paintings is explained by DLC as well
Come to think of it, Ariandel is closer to being a Pontiff's dlc than anything else.
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>>159533135

Who wouldn't?
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>>159534225

Dumb animeposter
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>>159533919

Still waiting?
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So I just finished my blind playthrough of the DLC (yes I'm late). Pretty underwhelming but the final bossfight was fun. Decided I'd help some people with the final boss since she had given me a few issues.

First three times I get summoned there are 3 player summons + the NPC phantom showing up in the second phase. What the fuck? I didn't even know you could get that much help at the same time.

Takes all of the fun out of the fight too. Fucks sake.
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>>159534430
Dead.
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>>159533817
They're kind and nicer than you will ever be!
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>>159534579
>He fell for a meme literally invented by Claire
t.Claire
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>>159534579
Good.
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DLC disappointment...

Annoying area with no landmarks makes it tedious to go through {repeat of the unejoyable farron keep}
Too short
Too many mobs of followers
Enemies don't drop chunks and too little souls considering that they suggested to do it after lothric Castle
Undead match uses unembered health, 2 player brawl is good for convienice though
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What's a good build for the bandit knife? Hollow/dex or straight up dex or refined?
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>ds4windows keeps screwing up
>controller gets disconnected mid match and reconnected
>I get killed because I cant do shit for 5 seconds while my framerate drops to 5fps during reconnection for some reason.
reeeeeeeeeee
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>>159534685
Stupid discord poster.
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>>159534695
>no landmarks
What? You can see the Corvian settlement, the rope bridge or the Ariandel chapel for like 80% of the DLC
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>>159534718

Quality
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>>159534718
Luck/Hollow/Dex with extra Carthus Rouge. You can easily kill bosses like Dancer and Oceiros around lvl 20 because of how weak they are to bleed.
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What the fuck is wrong with this DLC.

You just kill the boss and that's it? No story tidbits at all? No new dialogue from the painting bitch I saved?

This DLC was lazy as shit. The only good thing was the bossfight.
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>>159533934
Most users with GS don't have 48 poise just to poise through hammers. If they do you can rule out using a hammer, yes.

As I've said, I don't care about small hammer poising through greatswords. It should be a given that it's not what you should try to achieve. It can interrupt greatsword users that don't have poise specifically for the purpose of poising through hammers, interrupting them mid swing or after the first swing as a sort of whiff punish if predicted. Staggered r1s are sort of predictable.

GS definitely have the advantage, I understand.

Thanks for the info by the way. Love you!
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>>159533919
You still need help? My sign is down.
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>>159534826
Eh, nah. Never used discord
I did used msn messenger groups a lot back in the day. Is it the same thing?
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>>159534695
>Undead match uses unembered health
good
>>
Have you ever added a friend's friend on steam before because they had a cute avatar and played dark souls? How do you explain yourself why you added them if they ask?
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>>159520452
If you're not retarded the first 2 phases are trivial

Phsse 3 is the real fight, and she has a lots of new , moves and old ones are changed if you pay attention
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>>159535232

Has it even been a week since we did this last

Give it some time, memes lose their magic when you try to force them every fucking day
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>>159534905
>no story bits
You're inattentive.
Here's what's implied by the story of the dlc :
>the painted worlds are painted using someone's blood/soul
>the worlds start to rot and fire is needed to shut them down and start over
>"Uncle Gael" is looking for the Dark Soul of Man, suggesting that he may be a boss in DLC2
>Friede and Ariandel decided to hide the Lordvessel(Flame)
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>>159535298
That's funny. I had more issues with the second phase of the fight.

Not outright dying mind you, just losing too much health so I just died due to attrition in phase 3.
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>>159534685
>Claire invented BF posting
no that was me, don't ever attribute newfags to BFs ever again
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>>159535326
more like 3 days in a row
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>>159535395
i wonder what kind of world she can create from a fucking dark soul
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Who's the mother of the painting girl?
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>>159535508
be my pcfcbf
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>>159535508
He's been here since the generals even started, how new are you???
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>>159533445
As that other anon said, lifegems were much faster, and even humanity also made a loud noise. Farming humanity was not very easily done compared to grass or gems until very late in the game regardless and in most first playthroughs it almost never happened.
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>>159535395
I guess I missed the first part. Where is that mentioned?

But I wasn't talking about story in general, although I find that lacking as well. I was referring to how the DLC just ends when the boss is dead. No new dialogue, nothing to inspect in that room (said lordvessel for example), etc.

There is that snake woman think in an alcove in the back but I have no idea what that would be referring to.
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>>159534203
Yeah, and birch woman is his mother
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>>159535508
Fuck off newfag.
Claire started it.
t.Claire.
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>>159535487
Here's some protips for the Friede fight :
>have a blessed shield or health regen shield in offhand to regen any health lost due to trades and Sun Princess
>have a heal spell ready for heals between phases
>have a crossbow in RH2 you can use to pelt Friede during Phase 2/finish off phase 3
>enter the fight unembered and have embers in the hotbar so you can use an extra heal when transitioning from phase 1 to phase 2
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>people shitpost about claire even when they're not here
This is a little sad, you guys.
Can you even hold a conversation without talking about your faggy crushes?
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>>159535487
Friede does literally nothing in phase 2 just follow ariandel around and hit him.
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>>159536004
t. Claire
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>>159535721
There's new dialogue with the Corvian dude in the settlement and the painter girl if you quit and reload the area (or just warp to Corvian settlement and then warp back to the chapel to talk to the painter girl)
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>>159536117
Filtered
>>
ive come to an Accurate conclusion.

The reason why some people prefer Dex weapons and are faggots is because their connection is shit and they are accidently benefiting from a connection that gives them Phantom range the radius of a NUKES aoe. If they had good internet, they would be suffering other peoples 3rd world connections, dealing pathetic damage to targets that dont take damage. but they are on wal-mart connections so all their hits land, even the misses.

they use Katanas and Spears, hitting people clearly out of their range.

now to wait for Quantum Entanglement internet while being frustrated until then with constant fights against Billy Bob Jimbo's Dialup internet. :3
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>>159535623
irrelevant to BFs
>>
to all you faggot fucks using black flame with the dlc pyro hand kill yourselves

i really mean it
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>>159534695
>Annoying area with no landmarks
Stopped reading there
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>>159535936
sign up
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>>159536252
not hard to hit people clearly out of range in das3
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>>159534905
>No new dialogue
That's not true
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>>159535769
come to think about it, her "hands" resemble his wings
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>>159535956
>>have a crossbow in RH2 you can use to pelt Friede during Phase 2/finish off phase 3
I consider that cheese to be honest.

I have tried it and yes you can do phase 2 without taking a single hit if you use ranged weapons or spells.
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>>159536252
>he hasn't lagswitched BKGS r1-r2

You're just dumb.
Katanas and spears are clearly the better weapons in the game, people who like them are likely metafags, there's not much else to it, you silly thing.
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>>159526893
DS2 had the cutest females, shit.
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>>159531581
BB has the best game mechanics in the series though. Quick-stepping, transformation moves and combinations, hunter tools being tied to the same resource as parries, ranged parries with guns that all work differently in interesting ways, hell even the stat system basic as it was had the most solid effect out of the whole series with no wasted stat slot.
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>>159534203
If you look at the weird wooden boxes(altars) in the sides of Friede's bossroom, you can find similar ones in Pontiff's bossroom as well.
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>>159536252

Hey don't bring my spearfu's into this, asshole. Don't lump us in with the katan degenerates, we're the "ez parry" people remember?
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>>159536313
I can use vanilla pyro black flame with R1 R1 or combustion combo to trigger you
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>>159536545
yeah, it's one of the 3 arguments to the theory. the wings, the spell and the cut dialogue
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>>159536776
I thought follower sabre was considered the fotm meta/broken thing right now?
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>>159536783
Awful taste.
Everyone looked like potatoes.
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>fight an artorias cosplayer
>alright this could be fun
>on closer inspection he uses a caestus and does nothing but parryfish for the rest of the match

Fuck people. If you're going to cosplay do it right you faggots.
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>>159535569
Friede or someone we don't know.
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>>159536904
It is. CCS/Sabre apologists just making excuses so they can use it withotu being called subhumans
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>>159537163
dyke
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>>159537163
looks like Brock Lesnar's sister
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>>159536904
No, it's overrated outside WA shield turtling.
Carthus is still better.
People just still haven't learned how to roll out of the R1-WA pseudo combo but when they do, we'll be back to CCS again.
You can still compete with them with spears or kats
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>>159537163
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>>159537106
>watch Berserk/listen to Berserk ost
>want to make a Guts
>immediately triggered by all the Fallen Knights/Dark Sword "Guts" cosplayers
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>>159537158
To be fair I love that saber. I really enjoy the moveset.

But then I'm *that* guy using the broken weapon.
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>>159537316

The last "Guts" I ran into lagswitched me to death when he realized he was going to lose
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mrs ichigo kurasaki BANKAI9000 is really annoying and I can't see shit with all these particle effects

what are the attacks I can punish
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honestly if i see someone with a pyro flame in duel im just gonna let them kill me

no point in chasing them around for 3 minutes just so they can do le epic 1k damage black fire combustion

fucking faggots ruining duel just stick to invasions
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>>159537163
im eating, you fucker
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One of the best parts of arena is the ability to appear as almost any phantom colour you like, or in your genuine colours without having to use a ring slot (unless you want to appear as a white, and appearing as a regular sunster is sadly impossible).
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Being able to do synchronized animations on multiple NPCs is pretty neat.
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>>159537515
>not omedetou.webm
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>>159537435
I don't even use arena for duels because it's way too fucking easy and now I see why; faggots that just don't even make an attempt when they run into something that isn't "weapon I like to fight against."
Why not just never play duels again and not waste everyone's time?
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>>159537515
Can you unlock some unique NPC's animations like Firekeeper's or Yuria's?
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>>159537515

Nice.
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>>159536313
>Cometh thou to accuse
Thou appearest to lack faith, yet magnanimous are the Gods.
Hast thou acquire thine secret rite of black-haired witch Velka?
Perhaps thou shouldst consider
Heh heh heh heh…
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>>159537339
>Like Saif in BB
>it's most broken meta weapon
>tried in duels
>literally EZ mode
>never used it again
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>>159537515
do in firelink to get the most npcs
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>>159518856
>Complaining about a feature that's existed since the start
Go play chivalry then you massive faggot.
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>>159537826
>Hast thou acquire thine secret rite of black-haired witch Velka?
what did he mean by this
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How do I get better at invading the catacombs?

Most of the kills I get are cheap as fuck.
>>
>can barely cast my weapon buff before the other guy runs over to me and tries to stab me
>if i'm unlucky I'll just eat a forbidden sun or similar to the face
Great duel system from. Even DS2 was better than this.
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>>159538031
That's the point
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>>159537618
>isn't "weapon I like to fight against."

spamming pyro glove black flame for an easy mode 1.2k damage combo with little to no counter-play is not a "weapon"


its being an annoying faggot and i'm not wasting my time with it
same with being a sorcerer and just rolling around or 5 minutes

pvp with actual weapons like it should be or just fuck off

they should have banned magic from duels in the first place
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>>159538064
>honourfags
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That's cool, I didn't think you could parry these guys.
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why Yuria is so weak when Friede seems to come straight out of a shonen
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>>159538089
I guess so, but still. I made a build around the Millwood Greatbow and I managed to hit a grand total of two people with it.
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>>159521363
>Aldrich above anything
/dsg/ - shit taste general
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>>159537653
Not the Firekeeper's, since she's not the same model type as the player, but I can do Yuria's easily.

>>159537856
I was going to, but it would be mildly annoying to have to move them all. I'll probably do it eventually.
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>>159537901
I wish the Ultra weapons had a move where you could catch people rolling around you too close.
Like a low swing or something.
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>>159538091
I'm glad we're on the same page

>passively spams WP running R1s
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>>159538125
Because Yuria isn't a bossfight but instead an NPC.
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>>159538180
niceu niceu, VERY niceu, zullie-chan
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>>159538110
Well it's a guaranteed 1v1, so I would expect honourfags to flock to this arena?

I guess not.
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Carthus weapons or Corvian Claws for Sharp Bleeding?
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>>159538125
Yuria isn't Ash.
Elfriede probably has absorbed countless souls, just like the PC.
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>>159538091
>same with being a sorcerer and just rolling around or 5 minutes
god this, fuck these cunts trying to pull OSs with the homing souls + crystal soul spear with the shitty netcode
if it fails then they just go for a fucking marathon to drink their estus and try again
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>>159538091
>unga bunga rockstop me hate spells
yeah whatever havel
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>>159537965
VoS
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>>159538269
It only goes as far as 1v1 no estus, everything else is allowed
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>>159538031
Cat Ring + bridge is the most powerful tactic in the game
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>>159538206
a pommel bash would be great, short range and low damage but fast
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>>159538395
Even so, that's still the most honorfag bullshit in this game by far.

Would it have killed them to put the two spawn points a bit further away from eachother so I can cast at least ONE buff safely?
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>>159538180
CE table when
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>>159538180
Irina's Firekeeper animations are doable though.
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>>159538304
>unga bunga
>Havel
He created spells like Great Magic Barrier.
He's far from an uneducated "me smash" type of character.
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>>159538180
Are there any other "gestures" that you could get like this? Only other thing I can remember is Leonhard leaning against the wall
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>>159538180
I like this pose. Can people see those online?
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>>159538370
i know what you meant, im just mocking your way of saying it
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>>159538482
That's a Miracle.
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>invade in DLC area
>go hide somewhere and go afk
>????
>dead host
I know it applies to all areas in the game but this is on another level.
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>>159538482
he created miracles (to defend against spells) and he hated seath and sorcery
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>>159538180
>Create a bunch of gestures and poses that work on the player model
>Give the player no way to obtain them
Fuggin epin fromsoft
How easy is it to unlock these and how safe are they to use online?
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>>159538064
You should invest enough int to get hsm/crystal hail. After casting hsm just turn your back and cast whatever buffs you want. People are too afraid of it to interrupt whatever else you're doing most of the time. People will just run the hell away if it's crystal hail.
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>>159538482
>literally autistic and hates dragons and mages, doen't need to read to make a miracle
he's pretty unga bunga dude
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>>159538464
I can always get one buff off, just don't waste time gesturing or doing anything else before it
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>tfw
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Do I risk a ban if I use the equivalent of PvP watchdog for DaS3 ?
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>>159538229
Friedes taller than yuria, height is directly linked to power in the souls universw
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>>159538592
>>159538606
Point still stands.

>>159538647
>doen't need to read to make a miracle
Miracles are literally tales and stories.
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>>159538592
miracles are spells. the segregation is sorceries/miracles/pyromancies
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>>159538180
>that kriemhild
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>>159538091
>1.2k damage combo
>black flame
>1.2k damage combo
>same with being a sorcerer and just rolling around or 5 minutes

This fuckin guy, holy shit. How many threads he bitching about non quality builds? It doesn't looks like trolling desu
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Whats the best way to play sorcerer right now?

Just going for 60 int and equiping all those shitty rings for atk bonus?
Or are stuff like the crown and the clutch ring not worth it?
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>>159538703
yes
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>>159538647

He only hated Seath because of all the shady shit he was doing (and magic).
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>Using a great weapon
>Some quickstepping dagger fag does nothing but step around behind and quick attack
>Can do literally NOTHING to stop them
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>australian fighting your ghost across the room episode
fucking hell ban them from everything
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>>159538641
I only cast blessed weapon and it's mostly for show. I'm not willing to put that much into intelligence just because some people are twats.

>>159538684
Depends, sometimes it seems I spawn a few seconds later than the other guy in which case it's too dangerous to even attempt it unless he's buffing too.
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>>159538228
>passively parries you

>>159538301
Whats worse is they encourage this shit with allowing ashen estus

would be fine if that wasn't allowed because then at least you can bait some spells until they swap to a weapon
but no, they get to hoard 50 flasks with chugs you have .5 seconds to punish
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>Respec my character
>go full Havel
>tank a bit but overall i am just extremely slow and never hit anything

Am i just shit or is going max Havel just garbage?
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>>159538745
you don't need to read or write to create a miracle, just recite it to other people
even if it's like a crayon drawing that fell into ash lake it's still a miracle
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>>159538909

Equip a faster weapon
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>>159538825
>5 years from release
>some people still don't realize havel was a scalie
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>>159538956
Post webms or you parrying poles

>hits with just the tip
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Just started a pyro for the first time ever, what am I in for? also I recall people saying the flame you get in AoA is better than the normal one, that true? I never bothered looking at it on other characters because I wasn't using pyro.
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>>159538956
>wah he has to chug ashen every 10 seconds to attack while I can just R1
Holy shit dude, is there nothing you people won't cry about?
Why don't you just spam WAs and chug as well?
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>>159538791
HCSM + CSS is also a 1.2k damage combo and it's ranged
at least I can pull a spear against black flame shitters, black serpent is nowhere near as annoying as HCSM
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>>159539003
you can't really be havel before sl200 or so. before, you're just a cheap knockoff
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>>159539041

More like a rockie.
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>>159538825
I'm pretty sure Havel hated magic because of Seath, not the other way around
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>>159539158
Not him but they almost always just keep running if they are out MP until they can chug. Yes I can stay on top of them but then it's just 2 people running after eachother for over 2 minutes.
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>>159538543
Tons.

Think of any pose a Player Model NPC can do.

>>159538586
>>159538616
Modifying an NPC's animation doesn't seem to be visible online, but modifying your own is. So someone invading me right now would see me doing the pose and the other three standing around doing nothing.

I think I might start putting together a compiled table of minor scripts, like TinyHuge, Freezeframe, breakable Fog Walls, etc.
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>>159539162
>HCSM
>CSS
>being hit by CSS in duel ever
Jesus Christ. Decent mages never use HCSM and CSS shit spells in duels
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>>159539153
you can drop your weapon as soon as you start, maybe after gundyr if you're not confident with having 1 ashen til then
always level your pyro flame first
both rings stack
max INT/FAI evenly, you get a huge boost in pyro damage at 25/25
always have more ashen than regular estus
the parting flame is only good for spamming black flame otherwise it's worse overall
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>>159539182
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>>159538791
You clearly haven't used black flame with the new pyro glove, because it easily does that much damage

>non quality builds

no, just magic shitters


dueling is for weapons, physical weapons

equip a fucking WEAPON or fuck off to invasions or brawl

or go to pontiff or something just fuck off


if i fucking could i would snap every mages arms in half so they can never cast again
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>It's a ''getting summoned by a ganksquad for their entertainment'' episode

Whats the most effective build to deal with groups?
Going pyro and spamming lava everywhere?

I just want to fuck them up. Don't care if its shit for PvE or duels.
>>
Would anyone on PS4 have the Deserter Set for a poor Deprived character? Or any spare rings ye happen to have on ye. The password be 'beggar,' if ye care to invade and pass on your kindness at the Tower on the Wall bonfire.
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>>159539367
You can't stop me :)
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>>159539395
Black Crystal
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>>159539329
If you know they are gonna roll as soon as you run up then just rollcatch dude, stop playing stupid.

>>159539367
>triggered by mages
I really love when anti-meta shit becomes meta and people whine like this, it's fantastic.
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>>159539330
Yeah, I'd like to do some cool poses at people while invading them or if they invade me. I've seen people doing the DWG ring flip online before.
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>>159539182
>stone scales
still applies
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>>159539395
FUG
So you'll need 45 STR and a fair investment in VIT and END.
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nameless king, at fog gate

pc, psw: benis
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Does anyone wanna help me kill the Champion and Wolves boss in the DLC?

Sl 120.

Hard mode: Xboner
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>>159539395

I just run away and hide, then browse /dsg/ while I wait for someone better to show up and one-shot riposte the host or something.
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>>159538909

>someone uses the main strength of their build/weapon
>some idiot refuses to adapt and gets his ass rocked

Wow what a shock
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>>159539330
Can NPC animations be applied to Dancer or Lorian? He's got a "human" model even tho he doesn't walk at least...
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>>159539618

Coming!
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>>159539395
Pyro can work but you have to be very good at aiming fireballs or be fighting retards who will walk straight into chaos bed vestiges.

If you're going to win vs ganks you need to be able to one-shot phantoms. Whether that's by hornet riposting with a BKGA or by getting a full combo with carthus buffed 2kat or even by oneshotting with CSS is up to you. But you need to kill phantoms in one shot. I can't stress this enough.

You cannot win a war of attrition as an invader vs ganksquads.
>>
>invade at Pontiff
>see host down at the usual place
>go for it
>he bows
>bow as well because why not
>suddenly i get stabbed to death from behind from a complete invisible phantom
>host points down

Great banwave Miyahack
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>>159539338
that's all they use, you special snowflake
this combo and farron dart to finish people off
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>>159539618

You still need help?
>>
>cast buff in duel arena
>opponent starts throwing duel charms or whatever to cancel out the buffs
>he misses 2 of them
>get hit combo on him while he throws another
>buffs are gone but he lost half his health
bravo
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>>159539927
i have already summoned 2 so no
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>>159539956
>opponent casts buff in duels
>already throwing a duel charm while they're casting and now they can't do shit
fuck buffs
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>>159536835
spears, katanas, curved swords, and whatever class the followers sword is, and Straight sword spammers. All of them are horseshit. There is no clear indication when or where you are safe from damage. They can be using katana or followers sword and hit people at ranged beyond a spear. spears can be poking North, and hit people to the West. like there is some kind of Conal lag damage that follows people.

I generally dont see this with great swords, ultra greats, hammers, and axes. Because they are slow and give the netcode sometime to adjust. (ultras that do AOE stun are an exception and fromsoft should slit someones throat for thinking that was a good idea.)

but xX MLG Naruto Xx with his Katana is swinging 50 times before their router sends a packet and fucks the game.
>>
At level 103 with +10 weapons, what levels am I going to be encountering? I wanted to stay around level 100 in the hopes that I'd encounter everyone between 80 and 120, but it means some of my stats feel underlevelled and I'm worried that I'm unoptimised compared to some people.
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>>159539367
>You clearly haven't used black flame with the new pyro glove, because it easily does that much damage
Really? Woah. Try rolling next time instead mashing R1 in another BF after getting hit with BF
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>>159538807
If spells are going to be your primary damage source then you'll need the 2 sorcery boosting rings and sage+2. The crown isn't bad unless you're facing another sorcerer or someone who magic buffs their weapons which seems unlikely. You'll probably want 60 int court staff or the sage staff if you don't mind using the weapon art all the time.
>>
Can you parry Friede?
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>>159540257
>those moon runes
Are you from middle earth?
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>>159538909
For those quickstepfags I decided to stop trying to fight the game and just equip a fucking gay straight sword and flail it around like a retard.
Works like a charm all the time everytime.
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>>159540317

Yes.
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>>159540257
hes a black flame shitter

opinion completely discarded

fuck off
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>>159538112
You can parry a lot more than you think, goes the same for DS2. It's just most isn't worth it since most you can't riposte.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR9jNjp37U4
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>>159539904
Tell me more about mages, amigo. HCSM+CSS is baby's first combo agaisnt autists who never encountered mage.
>>
What's the absolutely cheapest, dirtiest tactic you can use against people?

I want to see some tears.
>>
>>159540150
>>159536252
Why do you retards act as if lag somehow benefits certain weapons? Lag and phantom range are annoying if you use a katana or a spear.

Also, neither spears nor katanas are DEX weapons apart from the Chaos Blade.
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>>159540257
>That setup
>Those runes
Expected no less.
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>>159540598
Dung pies.
Very few people actually carry flowering purple moss and even if they do they have to go in their menu to use it and they'll be totally vulnerable.
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>>159539176
>>159539003
its true
>no GMB
>no Faith
>31 endurance.
Why From

Also youll lose to anyone playing reactively
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>>159539338
I disagree. CSS has its place in duels and can hit even competent players when they're not expecting it.

The trick is to use it against aggressive players who don't suspect that you have it.

Also, use HSM instead of HCSM. Much easier on the FP.
>>
>>159539438
Ah shit I've been sitting waiting for an invader without my embers on.
Anyway, looking for some help, hoping someone can drop Deserter Set or Alva's set since I'm going for a lightweight STR build. Some spare rings from NG+ or titanite would be good, too.

PW is 'beggar' at the Tower on the Wall bonfire.
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>>159540257
Lmao i literally just fought a shitter with the exact same setup. As soon as he was about to lose he pulled his connection.

I bet it was you.
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>>159540515
>You clearly haven't used black flame with the new pyro glove, because it easily does that much damage

>hes a black flame shitter
LMAO.
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>>159539549
The backflip is essentially in the code as part of a "below 0%" equip weight tier. 1 is lightweight, 2 is midweight, 3 is fatrolling, 4 is overencumbered, and 0 is the same as lightweight but with a backflip instead of a backstep.

>>159539708
No, it's all based on Model ID. There's a range of animations that can be performed by model "0000", the Player Model, and a different range that could be performed by say "1400", the Fire Keeper.
>>
So reapers are basically the greathammers of DEX, right?
They seem slow but long and wide in terms of range and hit pretty hard with bleed buildup.
>>
>>159538909

>some nerd is quickstepping in circles around me
>I literally cannot hit him
>with neither my thrusting sword nor my spear

uhhhhh
>>
>>159540762
i like to think havel would use angelic miracles as well as way of white ones
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>>159540842
>fatroll
>1h friede scythe
nani?
>>
>>159540762
>98.5% equip load with these rings and 50 VIT
how the fuck does the archdragon peak havel fastroll?
>>
>>159540594
>muh crystal hail
yeah bruh, it's not like I haven't already played against countless mages
I'm sure you have some sick l337 super secret combos
>>
>>159540759
>like a whopping 300 damage that they can outheal with regent effects

this ain't dark souls 2 where things besides quality actually worked
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>>159541116
Do any NPCs fatroll? Maybe it's just their privelege.
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>>159541217
They weren't afraid to let them fatroll in 1
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>>159540771
WDB is better choice if you like using CSS shit in duels. HSM of course is best because of speed cast, but this guy rekted by HCSM.
>>159540831
Sorry to ruin your wet dreams, but I play on PS4
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lord of cinder, fog gate

pc, psw: benis
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>>159541203
Clearly you haven't actually played recently considering everyone's complaining about a nonquality build being too strong.
>>
When we're talking about bosses/enemies being weak to a certain element, it means that this elemental damage doesn't get reduced as much as another element, right? I feel like being weak to a certain element should add a factor of 1.2 - 1.5 to the damage value in order to make elemental infusions more viable than STR, DEX or quality infusions.
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>>159522491
Rings + stats
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>>159541116
npcs don't conform to meta levels
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>>159540970
they aren't that slow at all and have very good range. the only problem is occasionally swinging over people's heads, but they have a pretty good moveset to compensate

also remember R1 R2 is a combo, though it only does a little more damage than R1R1
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>>159541286
>WDB
like that shit works, it's even worse
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>>159540762
Have you consider dropping the shield mid fight and go just with the dragon tooth? you just need 55vit
also, drop str to 40. the dmg you gain isn't worth it
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>>159541286
WDB? No way. CSS is much faster and harder to avoid in my experience. In over 300 hours of DaS3 I have NEVER hit anyone with WDB or been hit by it. Does it even have any tracking at all?

I've killed countless people with CSS however since it can punish estus chugging and trade with pretty much any spell or attack in the game.
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>>159541324
pyro is just magic quality. also melee still beats pyro easily if you're not retarded
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>>159540842
i can barely see the numbers in your shit webms

each black flame with the new glove does like 600 damage. if you trade hits with one mid swing you'll inevitably eat another

unless you pull out a spear you'll never be able to do anything its absolutely fucking stupid
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>>159541131
Then why you are you talkin about HCSM + CSS combo?
HCSM is long cast like CSS that eats 50% of stamina. Epic "cast HCSM turn away and cast CSS" works only in invasions.
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>>159539341
when you say max, you mean level them up TO max evenly, yeah? Not that the max you should go is 25 for both?
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>>159541671
>it's basically the same except 2 completely different stats
It's still not quality so your argument doesn't hold up.

>>159541804
Level them evenly, yeah. The max you should have is 40/40.
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>>159541758
say that to my mage OSing 80% of the people in arena just because HSM/HCSM has a wonky trigger
but you believe WDB to have any use other than fucking around in free for alls so I won't engage in an argument with a theory duel pro
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>>159541726
Aside from you know, outspacing it.
At max range it loses to anything greatsword size or larger and if you get hit within the parting flame range-which is shorter than the black flame range-then you're really stupid.
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>>159541726
>if you trade hits with one mid swing you'll inevitably eat another
No. It deals 600damage only in point blank. It's two hit combo, so you can roll away. With vanilla flame you can cast Black Flame + R1 + roll catches. Why you didn't bitch about vanilla Black Flame before e-celeb video?
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>>159541671
Pyros can melee too you know. In fact they kill me far more often with Onyx Blade than they do with their spells.
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>>159521363
Champion Gundyr should be in top tier.
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>>159541892
so are you going to argue that dung pies are a viable form of combat as well, or are you just going to defend your new meta build?
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>>159542042
>but you believe WDB to have any use other than fucking around in free for alls so I won't engage in an argument with a theory duel pro
>theory duel pro
Free aim WDB > CSS in duel.
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>>159540771
HCSM is superior against agressive opponents if you get the chance to cast them since you can repeatedly smash them into people with rolling and then still fire them off.
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still not banned lads
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>>159542176
if you can't predict what all of these cookie cutter pyro faggots are going to use by now then you're not very good at adapting
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>>159542096
>latency

>>159542173
because it didnt do as much damage
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>>159542176
Then they don't have the stat/equipment investments to kill you with spells and rely on their weapon instead. At 120 a pyro cannot have both a good weapon AND strong spells without giving up either ring slots, stamina or both. Or they can't level vit so unless they're using a dark shortsword they're going to be midrolling. That's why you see people only using black flame with parting flame and just using Onyx primarily, because they're just a melee build with some spells, not the other way around.

>>159542537
Latency is literally not an excuse against a melee range spell.
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>>159521612
Gravetender deserves to be in its own very bad tier
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How's the damage/casting speed ? Can you now free aim it ? I'm asking those who tested it, not memers
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>>159542759
>I'm asking those who tested it, not memers
Asking in /dsg/ won't get you anywhere, then.
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>>159542632
>Latency is literally not an excuse against a melee range spell.
when there is a chance of interrupting the casting or if you're using a weapon with thrust, it's a pretty valid excuse
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>>159542759
About the speed of scythe's WA now.
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>>159542537
>because it didnt do as much damage
Check any dark weapon AR. The real reson is that no one play pyro before e-celeb video. All dat bullshit about "builds variativity" is lie. Qualitty WP/CCS bots already buttmad when new build suddenly appreas in duels.
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>>159543065
>>159543065
>>159543065
migr8
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>>159540606
it does benefit certain weapons. Fast actions over internet connections with latency all over the place is not fun.

im not sure if you will understand this, since its a different game and years ago but the principles are the same across any multiplayer game where registering hits is important.
In CoD MW2, there was a running glitched. The player model had a default running speed and depending on the weapon you had it would subtract from your running speed. with an LMG you would be slow, with an smg you would run fast, with a knife you were faster, with the Lightweight perk you were even faster. With a Care Package smoke grenade in your hand, it didnt have a Subtraction Value, so you would Run at Max Speed. Problem was the Netcode wasnt Designed for it and would let people run around the map so fast that the Hit Detection couldnt register bullets accurately and allow runners to knife people untouched.

in MW3, there was a similar problem as there were perks that let people move quickly while aiming and also benefited from "Ping Armor."

So the faster you move online, the faster you can hit before the netcode can allow the other players to account for the game state changes.

Speed and Range online, especially when people usually have shittyupload speed/consististency with ping all over the place and its no fun at all.
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>>159542632
>Latency is literally not an excuse against a melee range spell

it stops being a melee spell at that point
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>>159543076
But dark weapon AR is good
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>>159542995
>if you're using a weapon with thrust
Are you shield+rapier/spear poistabber or havel turtle anon? If so, it's comedy gold
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>>159543419
>only spears and rapiers have thrust
>counter dmg doesn't matter when trading
adios smug loli
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>>159541323
Sign up
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people always say bloodborne is the hardest but I think dark souls 3 has the most unfair bullshit
>soul of cinders combo
>nameless king hit boxes
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>>159519294
t. lmao2scythe WA shitter
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>>159544965
Nameless kings hitboxes are faie, he just delays his attacks and spams thrusting attacks.
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