Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

Chronomancers are made for handholding!

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>>159403986
aye

Anons ive been camping for this stupid flower for 5 days now, when does it spawn? is it at a 4 hour interval or 17? is it better to channel hop or stay in one channel? does it spawn like crab? where you have to sit on one area for it to spawn?

>>159403357
i thought enchant lightning was confirmed to not affect the cryo-kino wumbo combo?

>>159404268
No, you don't need to sit on it.

>>159404334

>enchant lightning + icewall +psychic pressure

Why not? it literally adds +500 lightning damage to your character chart...

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>want to make my cataphract deal damage
>everyone gets a super cool practonium weapon
>mine has massive penalties against everything but leather

>>159404334
It adds mdef bypassing lightning damage

So how many telSEAniggers are in here?

>>159404686
A few

>>159404789
I'm joining in on there.
The ping on clap is 300ms-400ms. playable but sometimes skills don't work

Fencer 3 vs ShinobiMurm damage?

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Why are you still playing?

>>159405056
Because there aren't a lot of games i enjoy playing.

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>>159405056
Im not.

>>159405056
Honestly, this halloween event is probably the only thing keeping me active.
I'll probably burn out and be done with this game when it ends.

>>159405056
>>159405150

Im not too, and believe me, is painless and now im playing other things and feels so free and good, i just come here to see the drama and how this game dies slowly, and more for the gacha thing

>>159404890
Where you from lad? Just so you know ping helper thingos do work. Like WTfast and shit like those

>>159404571
>everyone

some of us are still opening cubes since day one

>>159404542
ice shard dps is dependant on your magical attack, not your elemental attack. i was told by many theory crafters that it does not help this type of build. any chance u can prove me wrong? im actually thinking of going enchanter for r8 and i need help
>>159404657
i have no idea what youre saying anon, are you saying the elemental damage helps kill enemies mdef? is that even a thing?

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>>159405235
I'm so upset that the Halloween event is yet another dumb mission chore.
>all those speculation posts during beta about what holiday events would be like
>thoughts that towns would actually change, like Halloween would make the towns spooky nighttime and the hanging pots in Fedi would be replaced with jack-o-lanterns

>>159405293
Flipland.
WTFast barely does anything,

>>159405383

even old ass mmos at least puts some fucking jack-o-lanterns, is not too hard IMC

>>159405372

....

ice shards goes with your elemental attack too

holy shit, you never tried an arde dagger or memental hats?

but this enchanter skill MAY works differently. but theres' a fact: is adds 500 elemental damage to your character chart as any elemental buff like aspersion or elemental gear like hats/weapons/

>It's another "Theorycrafters act like authorities on subjects they know nothing about" episode

>>159405487
We got tiny pumpkin hats!
You're gonna wear that thing, right?

Also look forward to sushi hats $10 each thank you

>>159405570

i talk about map decoration like on Klaipedia Town, and no thanks..... A fucking sushi hat for 10$ fuck you imc

>Current Waiting Queue: 5
>Current Waiting Queue: 6
>Current Waiting Queue: 7
>Current Waiting Queue: 1

FUCK YOU.

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>>159405487
Silly revelator, Halloween it's a demonic festival and must not be celebrated in any city of the Kingdom blessed by the Goddesses
Are you by chance an eretic or a demon fucker?

>>159405740
i'd fuck this demon and her bird too

>>159405740

>Gabija
> Demon Fucker

Tell me Gabija what is the taste of demon semen please

>>159405610
Mobs in R8 maps will still melt you.

>>159405732
>Queue fills up 2 minutes later
>I missed a clear voucher use because of this retarded system

>>159405871

>c guard aspersion snap shot

kyss

>>159405956
where's your god now?

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>>159405828
You are mistake Gabija with Vakarine or Laima

>>159406043
probably doing 200 rushs :^)

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>>159405956

Reminder that it'll take weeks of consistent farming to make the new 315 red recipes!

>>159405503
would sage's ability to clone fireballs be a better ability compared to enchant lightning in terms of ice wall + psychic pressure + fireball combo?

>>159406135

Nope, all of them tasted it too, so....tecnically celebrating Halloween it is like remember these old and wet days for them

>>159406248
No.
My autistic goddessfu didnt!

She probably doesn't even know what to do with a (hopefully my) dick.

>>159406178
oh please, took me 4 months to make a terrallion, this is a walk in the park

Anons help

for Fencer c3 (all considering future patches) whaats better now?

50-100 con rest dex

or

2:1 Dex Str?

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>>159406305
Austeja, i bet she is the lewdest of the bunch

>>159406305

Sorry anon, she had like hundreds of years, and some of these eras they lived with these "demons" and they dint play the party tea to be honest if you know what i mean....

>>159406458
>>159406479
No no. She only cares about Bees, not D

>>159406543

She cares about double D

Demon Dick

>>159406208


check little samson's channel, he plays build of kings (wiz 3 pyro 1 cryo 1 kino 1 rc 1) with sage

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>>159406543
To be fair she is the goddesses of Corsairs too

>>159406597
No anon.

Bees

Not D's

How does an alchemist continue questing after 280?

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If the people who die go to Ausrine to be reincarnated and she is said to be in another world/dimension now isn't our world their Konosuba like Fantasy Australia according to the removed baseball hat description?

>>159406631
im aware, however this ktos neet doesnt seem to have any info besides *heres a clip of me pressing a button*
i have no interest in sage unless the duplicate fireball somehow adds alot to the formula, otherwise im grabbing cryo2
enchanter still being on the table perhaps

Is the level 240 dungeon worth running for?

>>159407029
people only do it for virtov

So which dungeon do you have to grind in preparation for the 315 purple weapons?

Where do you gems drop from?

>>159407148
incorrect, theres also a new featherfoot glove which is very rare

>>159405487
IMC hasn't even finished implementing classes that were in the trailer, they don't have time to make a second city graphics set.

>>159406895
I don't even know how they're expected to do the C3 quest without someone fucking carrying them.

It's like IMC didn't get the memo that they sacrificed all the actual damage-dealing ranks on a crafting class.

>>159407437
>yet another alchemist complaining about an easy quest in which can be done in 20 mins with a simple shout message
>they dont know about the murmillo quest which has to be solo'ed

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJGrl4gJxx4

>you'll never feel this comfy in TOS

>>159407575
ToS is set in a post apocalyptic shithole, what do you expect?

>>159407575
Smelly, dumb frog poster

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>>159407575
>Ragnarok Online was over 15 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIAvwTnYl0Q

>>159405056
I like how playing my character feels, and I keep hoping they'll make the game better.

Rank 8 having zero monster drops other than their trash item which--if you're lucky--may be used to craft 315 orange gear is really sucking the soul out of it for me though.

Just a beautiful framework handed over to a shit-smeared child ready to pollute it in whatever way he pleases. I'm sure I'll quit soon too.

>>159405056
I don't know

>>159408434
the fact that we don't have white 270 and white 315 stuff is the most retarded shit. I mean you have to use 220 gear until you can farm a 315 weapon and by the time you're 315 you don't even play the game anymore because you're out of content

>>159408646

>content takes forever to grind and get good gear
>IT TAKES TOO LONG

>content is completable with old gear
>IT'S TOO EASY

>content is hard and requires teams
>IT'S TOO HARD

>>159408820
you can only get good new gear after the content you need it for is already done.

>>159408434
FFXIV was also shit at launch

>>159408646
>However, we believe that increased properties of Gems and Enchant Scrolls' Status and transcendence equipment which will lead to our players to grind them more easily.
Just trascend your white 220 and stop complain :^)

>>159408950
and Squeenix had to do massive damage control to retain the fanbase while actually REDOING the entire game from the ground up

IMC just gave us Gacha

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>>159409249
Stupid piggu IMC needs money for Wolfknights and gatchas are a great way to get money from a game like ToS
It's not like Nexon wouldn't consider pulling the plug on kToS in early 2017 too

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I hope you have already something solo full clean 290 for when Paper Cubes recipes will be introduced

>>159408106

Yeah i will never feel that peace again, just in aldebaran and just make potions in peace....and feeding my dear homunculus

>>159407360

They dont have the time to put just some jack-o-lanterns near houses, seems right

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enjoy
30m-2hrs as always
300s below market price

>>159410080
They're going to recession

Do you guys play with a gamepad, keyboard or mouse?

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What Capyba's Dragoon is thinking about here?

>>159411134

is thinking about Catacombs Pike

>>159410601
She is too flat for a Sorceress

>>159410676
I was playing with gamepad, then I got lazy and just use kb and mouse instead.

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i will save this game /tosg/

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>>159410601
>Moesucky is too pure to play a lewd sorc!

>>159411456
Wat, isn't it supposed to be the opposite way round?

Armor Break should be fixed

>Skull Swing applies AB only yo Slash Attacks
>Umbo Thrust only to Strike Attacks

Why should I slot my weapon with Red gem when yellow gems have higher values?

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>go to the only uosis map in game
>0/100
>1/100
>nice I can do some comfy farming with thauma
>fletcher faggot appears
>ok if he doesn't steal any we can co-exist
>gather
>swell

>faggot roams in and steals it all
>walks it off like it's nothing

>"ok i'll bring cata then"
>login cata
>proceed to steal everything he has
>another alchemist enters map
>steal everything he has

>both proceed to whine at me in some ancient chinese farmer language
>begins to brag about his farm status

>"100 hour you?"
>yes
>30 minutes later of stealing his farm
>still 100 an hour? ha ha
>he doesn't respond

WHY DOES IMC ONLY HAVE ONE MAP WITH ONE CHANNEL FOR THIS SHIT

>>159411808
because one is counted in calculation and is multiplied by modifiers and the other is flat bonus?

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>>159411851
Dont mess with the alch mafia

>>159411851
big bully

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People are getting bored of the event too

>>159411667
you see you still need to use mouses to drag things around and type stuff

>>159412179
Who wouldn't?
99.999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time the cube would shit out trash.
>3 panto horns
like seriously?

>>159412191
Only gripe of using mouse mode is that i can't use spacebar to select or confirm.

>>159412232
Honestly it's probably because they've run it over a hundred times by now

>>159412179
>>159412232
I dont get it bros its really easy to get players back, just implement ad double exp weekend. there a few hundred players would be coming back

>>159412413
Not worth the long ass queue


>>159412452
IMC is being IMC

>>159411979
>fedimian
>any mafia

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So I had a bad luck enchant and did some testing with magic amplification. It seems quick cast affects it too, since I got up to +149 damage with a 100 mamp headgear.
This doesn't make mamp good, but it's not as terrible as I thought.
Could IMC fix INT if it gave mamp along with matk?

>>159412852
>he doesnt know

>>159412637
Ah you must play on a ded server, fair enough then

>>159412956
I play at the deadest server Fedimian and never had to wait more than 5 minutes

>>159405056
Exploring new amps and doing the quests is fun. I don't play 24/7 so I am not burned out.

>>159412852
>>159412918

if there is it's a nameless chinese farmer group who only plays at like 6 am EU time

they also are guildless

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>>159409249
>square had to do work to retain a fanbase

Manamana is now 4.4 M in Telsiai.

Is it overpriced or should I buy? I only have 4.6 M and no passable gear except Vubbe Gloves and Light Plate Top and Bottom.

>>159410676
This game controls very nicely with gamepad. I can mostly lean back and relax with the nice music while doing stuff and occassionally press a key on the keyboard.

>>159413164
it's the same price on fedimian, around 4m to 5m

it's standard price for something that only a few use and need now thanks to practonium pistols replacing corsair needs (though they will most likely make sword first) and archers just use m.def shields

>>159412637
How can one company be this stubborn? its like youre refusing money, there really is no reason to not implement features and events that would keep and attract players on the top of my had i could think of five

>blue mob in dungeon event
>double exp weekend
>Higher exp card drop rates
>exploration and kill count applies to new chars event
>Guild raids giving you exp enough to r5 event

Jesus, there is nothing to lose but everything to gain, one would think that this is all done out of fucking SPITE

>>159412890
Imo int should raise mp and mp regen too like spr.

>>159413249
I agree with all except drop rates.

There should be a 2x EXP weekened event every now and then.

Seeing how RO handled xmas, I hope they have some good shit in stores. It's the games official xmas since release and RO handled xmas gloriously with maps, bosses and music themed to the time.

If they don't have anything this is no spiritual successor in my eyes.

>>159413272
Eh that's kind of useless. You're gobbling down pots every second because of chapparition cards anyways.

>>159412890
>It seems quick cast affects it too,
quick cast is an end formula modifier

>>159413382
Yes but I thought mamp was a flat end bonus too. Maybe it can help getting past through mdef damage treshold? I need to test this more when I reach R8

>>159413510
>Yes but I thought mamp was a flat end bonus to
WHEN WILL THIS "EVERYTHING IS A FLAT END BONUS" MEME WILL DIE
WHEN?

>Maybe it can help getting past through mdef damage treshold?

mapm is effectively a + max atk so it technically can

>>159411851
bully!

Can I get enough crit defense from 4 and 5 star gems to be reliably safe from spiral arrows or should I go safe and put everything to HP?
I'm full INT

>>159414075
Look up the monsters stats. Their crit chance is most likely calculated the same way ours is.

>>159414227
Will do boss

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Post countdown to freedom
After this token expire i am considering quitting

>>159414258
You're much safer by wearing 2 decent plate armors and full plate + aspersio. Even if they crit it will just be 1's, depending on the type of Spion though.

Also Yellow Gemming say Grynas set you can already sit at 1k defense easily or even more with grynas.

are sadu still unplayable?

>>159414465
I've seen quite a few of them. They are no where near as overpowered like say Diev or Druid, but fun class.

Is 317 the last level requirement for questing?

>>159414638
so they didn't get buff / fix oob?

alright, not coming back still

>>159414708
never played saddhu so can't tell

I dont think anyone is complaining about saddhu bugs

think the class is working, just not powerful

Is wugushi decent?

>>159407618

Ragnarok Online is set during the end of the world anon... The name RAGNAROK wasn't used for nothing.

>>159415017
it's not the best from what I recall and neither is cannoneer

most go musket or falconer, or some kind of fletcher

sapper is getting big buffs in the future, so if u want wugu at least pair it up with sapper

I don't play archer but these are what people post about during American Archer Hours

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>>159414708
>waiting for fixing an unpopular class
Dude, there are more played class with bugs and other issue waiting fix for 5+ months and you are seriously expecting IMC even remember Sadhu exist?
>>159415017
It's working, one of the class who benefit the most from recent physical enchant and red gems buffs
That doesn't mean wugus are top tier right now

>>159404268
https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/54cd2w/the_shinobi_and_the_flower/

>>159414643

For now.

Once we get the new Earth Tower area, then 330 is needed to equip the gear from it (and probably to run it).

>>159415291
>There is a single ignored mob in alemeth that curiously is a flower
See this is why I know people are retarded. If it takes so long for someone to make this obvious connection.

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>Got liked by another girl

Stop this!

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>>159414317
Buy another one!

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>>159415632
toot

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>>159415632
Would you rather I come back on my boy character and like you?

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>>159415683
I don't care about Miko so IMC can't buy me with one

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>>159415731
>>159415947

Just stop! Leave me alone!

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>>159416108

Someone did it again!

Now I'm getting angry!

Where does Practonium drop from?

>>159416582

Mishekan forest quest line ends with a hidden quest that gives a box. You can open it once a day for a chance of Practonium, but you get one from it ever.

Other than that there are rumors from the 315 dungeon and world bosses, but no confirmation yet.

>>159416664
Is that why the recipes for the 315 weapons are cheap as fuck?
Is there any point of buying those weapons or are the recipes common as fuck?

Do scatter caltrops disappear when enemy touches it?

Is the game still P2W as fuck?

>>159416804

The recipes are cheap because they're more common than fucking talt from the 290 box.

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>>159416108
>>159416551
I found your cute twin!

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>>159416846

I get abuse like this every single day anon. Why would you join in?

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>>159416826
>/v/ throws random words around again

>>159416923
Its not me! I heard he's gay though.

>>159416826
yeah

not really, everything from store can be put into market and you can't yet buy amazing shit from cash shop - yet, might soon if IMC fucks shit up again

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>>159417162

But I'm not gay.

>>159416826
Not yet in iToS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CWPlqttnlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnzA5ng6xh4

>>159417162
>>159417353
you're both gay

Is it even worth doing Halloween time-wise for the chance of drops or is it just an exp thing?

>>159405446
PLDT I presume.
I use Mudfish and bought the $2.99 one. Or if you want you can try turning your modem off and turn it on again for a power cycle, External IPs that is dsl.49.x.x is better than the 112.x.x.x ones.

>>159417751

At this point I'm doing it for the exp.

It's quick and easy to run at high levels, probably only 10 minutes for all 3 runs. But I've run it like 60+ times and gotten no good rewards yet.

Is Manamana still worth it? Or a Snaphance is enough until 290?

>>159417751
>Is it even worth
Like everything in this game no it's not worth wasting time

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Do people still trade Uosis / Dilgele for pots anymore?

>>159417862
130+ runs here

on like day 1 I got vubbe blood

3 artilonium

nothing else worth noting

>>159417862
Done it over 200 times and gotten a few socket horns and an artilonium and some other shit. Few black drake hearts too but nothing else much of note. Mainly just doing it for the exp.

hmm
QS or Ranger?

can you reset that halloween dungeon?

>>159418682
no

>>159417958

No. No alchemists anymore. People simply trade with their guild members. I haven't seen anyone trade pots for herbs for like 2 months now.

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convince me to not dump these into con

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>they are going to nerf AFK farming

what did they meme by this?

>>159419852
Put everything in SPR and use LeFeary's SPR2CON armor enchants.

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>>159403863
does druid3 werewolf form need dex to hit people in pvp?

>>159419891
they want you to Play Game

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What exactly does this do? Is it lockrate +1 per card?

>>159420062
I am an INT druid and i can tell i almost never miss any Archer or Swordman in miunigames

>>159420167
No it's just Block :^)

>>159419891

Summoned pets wont attack if the player doesn't manually enter combat once every minute.
Sorcerers and Necromancers have to type in a captcha every 5 minutes their pet is summoned. Failing 3 in a row results in an automatic ban.
Warlocks invocation is being reworked. No word on how just yet.
You can only hold 10 of any type of potion now.
Whenever something is killed it drops an orb now. You get no exp unless you pick up the orb.
The suction range on picking up items, silver and these orbs has been nerfed to hell, you have to walk over them to pick them up.

>>159420317

I don't believe most of that at all. Especially the potions and exp one.

>>159420436

Would I ever lie to you anon?

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>>159420317
ToS-Pass when?

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>>159420317
stop making shit up
all they are doing is making sorc summons only attacks whatever the sorc is attacking, which is kind of a good thing

also, >>159419891 >>159420317 same fag

So me and my guild killed 700 flowers, still no yellow flower ;__;

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>>159420645

What?

>>159420645
Damn, I'm down for that. Templeshooter enjoys boss traps and ice wall too much.

>>159420746

That's not how it works.

Their AI isn't changing at all. They will just stop attacking entirely if their owner hasn't been in combat for a minute (being in combat is defined as attacking something).

>>159420716
the ninja quest?
what does it have to do with killing flowers

>>159420862
you are in combat if you take damage as well and im sure its not all that hard for a auto pot script to toss in a random tab and Z, nothing will change

>>159420961

No. The patch notes specifically said you have to attack to be considered in combat. And you're right, this change wont do shit because people will just bot anyway.

An easier way to stop AFK farmers would be to just make it so you actually have to pick up dropped silver like you do with items. Would completely fuck them over.

>>159420867
see>>159415291

wnted to test it

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>>159408106
>there is not a single map in ToS as comfy to chill in as aldebaren

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>>159407575
>mfw all the music makes me feel pain now
sucks getting old

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>Do halloween dungeon
>Get grouped up with some decent people and one BR who decided to talk alot of shit about how powerful his character is
>We let all the bosses spawn and weak them enough to the point where we could kill them in a few seconds
>Purposely use swash and make the necro kill the BR
>We then rush and kill all three bosses before he ran back here, leaving him with no bonus exp
>He immediately rage quits and forgets his cube

>muh ragnarok
This is the problem with ToS. Its userbase is entirely composed of casuals, normies and poorfags who have never actually played a real, pay2play, AAA mmo.

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>>159421541
>RO
>casual

>>159421541

hey there millenial, relax, we're not here to make you feel bad, we're just enjoying some nostalgia

one day, you'll understand.

maybe one day you'll look back on TOS with the same kind of lo- oh wait....

>>159421531
>Things that never happened but anon wish had happened

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Which weapon should I blow my Practonium on?
The 315 Bow or Musket?

>>159422235
reroll a class that matters

>>159421783
>millenial
I played mmos before RO was even out.

>>159422504

there there, you don't have to lie to impress us

>>159421717
The game mechanics might not be for casuals (just like saalus grind in ToS), but the userbase itself is made of natural born casual players (weebs, social kawaii uguu erpers, poorfags, etc).

If Murm = Buiser

what is Doppel/Fencer/Dragoon?

>>159406426
Full dex use yellow gems on main weapon.

>>159423047
WoE is more hardcore than anything in ToS.

>>159423482

WoE was brilliant and Ragnarok Online to this day still has some of the best PVP in a MMO.

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>tfw you see your guild leaders mangled body being carried up to you by a boss

>>159423587
>tfw ToS could have potential if not for non-existent optimization

>>159423713
I will never understand how/why they released a game with such shitty optimization - how could this be ignored/not tested the whole time during development

>>159423839
because it works fine on their single core gook toasters

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>>159423691
>Sorc
She was asking for it

>>159423713

Nah. It needs a lot more than just optimisation to even come close to the level of PVP RO had.

RO had some amazingly designed and balanced classes. Every single one had some function and purpose and brought something unique to the game. Counter play was also a massive part of the game and every class had some form of counter.
ToS doesn't have even a tiny bit of this depth or balance.

Does no one queue for Crystal Mines?

>>159424023
>RO had some amazingly designed and balanced classes. Every single one had some function and purpose and brought something unique to the game.
Oh boy nostalgia diapers at it again.

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>>159407575
>tfw ToS doesn't have Ygggdrasil Berry

Fuck them lvl 15 condensed HP Potion

>>159424067
Only first mission. They should have used the 7 missions they had and force 1 of them per day.

If RO was so much better why dont we all go play it

>>159424158
because it's dead and 3rd jobs are retarded

>>159424076

But it's true. Infact, the only two classes in RO who didn't really have much of a role in PVP were Knights and Assassins. Both could serve as emp breakers but that's all they really could do well.

You can spout the nostalgia meme all you want, but it is undeniable that RO had some amazingly designed classes.

>>159424126
>Ygggdrasil Berry
Fucking cancer

>>159424226

Ironically, it still has a more active player base than ToS.

>>159424126

Getting added in gacha. They are in the form of apples that heal 99% of your Hp or Sp.

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>>159424158
>I DON'T LIKE YOUR OLD GAMES
>I LIKE NEW ONES
>SHUT UP

>>159424348

There are private RO servers with more players than ToS...

>>159423587
>some of the best PVP in a MMO
Still the same unbalanced rock paper scissors "counter play" as ToS. Even wow has better PvP because it always focused balance, fairness and competitive play.
But again, RO nostalgia "oldfags" (started playing games in 2004) never played any real mmos so they can't really compare.

Who do people run the 130 dungeon?

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>>159424354
>imblying
I enjoyed RO, but you guys talk like it was the best shit ever, which really makes me unironically wonder why don't we all go play it.

>>159424575
Petamion

>>159424567

>rock paper scissors "counter play"

And that is proof you never played the game.

Skill was the most important thing in ROs PVP. One of the best PVP players in RO for years played as a Swordsman. Not a Knight or Crusader (or any advanced classes). A Swordsman.
That is like taking a Swordsman in TOS, keeping it at circle 1 forever and getting to the top of the PVP ladder. Which we both know could never happen.

Counter play was just a viable option in RO. While in TOS it's not. A few classes have ways to counter many other classes, but most classes have no way of countering even a single class.
In RO every class had at least a counter and a class they could counter (but skill could overcome these counters).

>>159424654
I have no nostalgia for Ragnarök and I hate the click-to-click for movement, attacks, scratch your nose etc control scheme.

>>159424654

ROs class design, PVP and balancing are exceptional.
It's content is absolute trash and basically just pure grind. The game also feels dated as fuck from the UI being ass to the controls being awkward as fuck.

Most of us also played it a lot and just got tired of it. That is something that happens you know?

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>>159424968
>tfw they could have just have made a RO remake where the UI and controls were updated on same engine

Go to any Ragnarok Online music video and you will see comments of people saying how they miss it.

Every. Fucking. Time.

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>>159424348
>Yggdrasil berries in form of apples
>in gatcha
>with 0.0000009% getting it

KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM!

>>159425525

Actually it's a 50% chance of getting a stack of them.

They are the dud prize.

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STOP BEING LEWD

>>159420167

If this is + block, you can use it to restore autoblock to vienarazes mace?

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>>159425625

>That feel when every single day you're assaulted by lewdsters

It's hell.

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>>159425606
yet I still need to buy it through the gatcha system.

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>>159425525
>>159425606
whats da point of alchemist anymore lol

>>159426154

Gem roasting and homunculuses (when they're added).

Until in a few more patches these are also made useless in some way.

>>159426232
homunculus isn't even out yet in ktos, this game is such a trashcan

>>159425887
>Humblebragging about getting all the bitches

Ok we get it, its not funny any more now stfu.

>>159425846
>vienarazes mace
Let me look that up.

>>159426651
Hm nope can't find that.

>>159426738

https://tos.neet.tv/items/203204

>>159426824
Interesting. Is this one in the international version already? I am still sub 200 right now.
And yeah it seems like my card find is a perfect fit for that hammer.

>>159426232
gem roasting makes max 20k profit a day

homonculus has so many mats that are untradeable, that it'll cost too much of your time to make one yet alone sell it once people get bored of the idea and never buy another

not to mention

>homonculus
>ever

it's not even out on kTOS

>>159427185

>He thinks crafting/vendor classes are suppose to make money

Don't be silly!

>>159420167
wonder if this would work with 2H swords too, I mean in theory it should right? block is block, no matter what weapon

>>159427185
>>159427286
t.Alchemist mafia that don't want more competition

You probably also hate Gee_Banter

>>159427408
no seriously, I put up a 15k lvl 7 shop now for 5 days straight and I've sold multiple times but it's like 5 to 8 customers every day and 3k mat cost makes it 12k, but 50% tax so it's 6k profit

meaning 30k to 80k a day?

real profits is with squires and buff sluts

>>159427405
Yeah it should. You don't equip cards into the gear itself so it should work like that fine.

>>159427512

No class makes profit anymore.

A mixture of constant undercutting and poorly designed systems make it impossible.

Most people are offering these services now out of the kindness of their heart. Not because it makes them profit.

Take the infamous Barry for example. He's been offering zero profit repairs since forever. He's literally making no money off of it, but he still does it. You can find him there every single day offering repairs at no profit and he even goes to the effort to restock on anything he needs to keep offering repairs.

>>159427408
>You probably also hate Gee_Banter
everybody does
>>159427512
>real profits is with squires and buff sluts
money making classes were supposed to be a meme from the beginning, dont lie anon.

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>>159427720
There were people undercutting Barry at some point.

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>>159427720
>ost people are offering these services now out of the kindness of their heart. Not because it makes them profit.

>>159427963

Yeah, that retard Randy guy was. But he bots almost every night anyway so losing a bit of money is nothing to him, and his "undercutting" wasn't worth using anyway since he has a lower level of repair and no attributes.

>>159428065
I was using Jace's level 1 repairs at some point. They were pretty much free.

>>159427185
>gem roasting makes max 20k profit a day
LOL

Speaking of how depressingly useless alch is:
Anybody want a pay what you want Awakening? Whisper Sparneejuah, I'm bored.

Reminder that spermjuan was part of the alchemist mafia back when the game wasn't dead.

>>159428857
>was
I still am. Play the game.

>>159428378
see >>159427512

I'm so glad none of you autists who rolled crafting classes play on my server.

>>159428742

>Awakening shit

But why? Literally a waste of time and last I remember also has a good chance of decreasing how good your gear could have been.

>>159428937
Because 15k is too high and you put your shitty shop in wrong spots. You probably also have a shitty unappealing title.

>>159429049
It was pretty decent pre-R8. Actually it was pretty much the best thing you could do to your weapon/armor. Now that R8 is out it's pretty shit for weapons unless you have an awakening stone (which Gacha will dump on us).
Hopefully imc will buff Awakenings just like they did hat enchantments.
For armor awakenings are okay-ish. Not good, pretty much a waste of money but you can get a couple thousand extra HP out of it which is nice if you're end game already.

>>159429221
>15k too high
LOL

HOW POOR ARE YOU

>>159427756
I love him, he just undercuts the fuck out of everyone by several hundred at a time killing the profit margin of the alchemist mafia by a lot while giving everyone cheaper pots since other people get butthurt and undercut him even further. Even still they make more than what this >>159428929 misinfo agent claims even with the undercutting.

people cry too much
every day I use 3x enchanting, every hour that I play I use a lv 15 squire buf (16 is meaningless because you lose the +1 as soon as you leave fed), and lots of repairs because I don't wanna see my rapier breaking in the middle of nowhere (venier costs nothing to repair at the npc because of the low base atk, but I still use squire because of muh 22)
also, aspersion 17 is a must all the time, sacrament 10 is okay. I just rarely use blessing since even a priest 700 full spr blessing is not worth the buff slot nowadays

if people did this more...
but they're shit at the game so whatever

>>159424149
But doesn't Crystal Mines now drop those dank new gems?

>>159429402
you share drops with others. most people just solo it

>>159429346

How much you paying for enchanting?

Because it costs 2000 just to buy the materials for it. I don't even know if it has 50% tax like other shops, but I wouldn't be surprised.

But I think a rank 8 fucking class that makes 50-100 profit from their services which will only be used 3 times a day by people is pretty shit to be honest.

I have an Enchanter and never open my shop anymore. Not even worth the effort to click on the skill then type in 2100. It's quicker and more profitable for me to go kill a few mobs.

>>159429436
Doesn't that take too much time to solo several bosses?

>>159429771

You only got to kill 2 bosses and they don't take long to kill.

>>159429771
No you just kill2 and afk5 minutes

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Is that the mafia? What are they saying? Am I being DDOS'd right now?

>>159429534

6k each

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>>159429534
>tfw you get "enchanted" by Faery every day
>She throws out her hand and rubs your chest while "enchanting"

>>159429534

On Fedimian they are 10k and I think that's fair. I don't own an enchanter but this is the going price and many pay it. It cuts swordies repair costs by an insane margin, especially if you're an alt a holic who uses 1 set for all, it saves a lot of cash.

>>159429956
Imc does not include nonunicode symbols in the games font. So that is just someone typing in russian.
I talked to one and apparently you can manually install fonts for the game which makes it even weirder it is not included by default.

>>159430202
Gross, you probably have some of Eroc's leftover semen on your chest now.

>Now killed 1.2k green flowers

I dont think the redit post is true

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>>159430202
Delete this!

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Only 3 days until school sailor costumes get announced!

>>159431505
Stop posting my wife Hibiki.

I dont have a skill reset pot, can I just go 15 dov 15 cyclone 10 redel and 1 the rest? i figure zucken and storn attributes arent that strong?

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>>159431939
sure lol

>>159423379
I thought crit attack was applied AFTER the crit multiplier, making it significantly worse than patk for Fencers?

>>159431939
Maybe the kurisumasu event will give stat/skill reset potions again.

>>159432420

it goes after the crit, but epee stance boosts it anyway

but red is still better imo
we don't have swift step

>>159432420
>>159432778

Epee stance boosts Critical Damage not Critical Attack

>>159433086

They are going to change critical attack to apply directly to physical so it gets affected by stuff like that and even Deed's.

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>>159432521
14 days only

>>159433509
That is good enough. It is one thing to start as shitter and make a few mistakes but why are you continueing to fuck up even after a 2nd and third chance?

>>159427185
>homonculus
>ever
>it's not even out on kTOS
It's RO all over again.

>>159431271
I miss young Nanoha as much as old RO

>>159429274
>>159429049
Did anyone ever make an updated awakening chart?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ry-wk544z3NJ0RGjAUKzE_3BADKUzb3Us6JdlB73vAg/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0
The HP regen accs get is like double what it says even though everything else is the same. dunno if SP regen is the same.

asking again
>cryo 3
>kino 3
>perfect fine build
>I don't care about minigames anymore but the build is still fun as fuck in pve
>r8 comes
>sage is retarded boring since it's just a one skill switch and some portal utility
>enchanter is also a braindead buffer

so which class I pick for r8?

>runecaster
for memewall combos and some extra ice damage? even snow rolling is really destructive with it but the cooldown is huge.
rune of destruction is okay with QC and a very high int build but that's not my case. awesome costume

>warlock
more firepower, pole of agony is one of my favorite skills in the game. yes, you can buy scrolls, but as a warlock you can double pole and bot enjoys your attribute bonuses
dt does some nice burst and also shields a bit
warlock c2 is useless and I'm not interested in a possible warlock 3 because that means giving up on cryo3/kino3 anyway.
in case I want to pvp again, it also does well (I know a guy with this build)

>linker
the most broken class in the game. ALWAYS useful. lv 6 = 6 links with dandel gem. also combos with ice wall + pressure

main concern is: sage 2/enchanter 2 might me fun might be fun or possible r9 classes may be shit for this build too or in case a new dps class comes (and I hope so), it maybe TOO quickcast dependent.
quickcast was the biggest mistake in the wizard tree together with link lmao
kim please!

Why is PvP such trash in this game?

Stun locking?

OHKO?

Austrine?

Why do all of these work in PvP?

>>159433839
>Did anyone ever make an updated awakening chart?
In the Alch Mafia Discord we've been collecting awakening data, adding it to a database and built some functions that return the results - based on items, based on stats, whatever you want. But we haven't made a chart out of it.

>>159434470
>tfw playerbase is so fucking small no one else is even going to bother awakening anything

you're secrets are pretty much safe

because they're pointless

>>159434571
>secrets
It's literally publicly available. Over 1500 results so far.

>>159434445
No proper diminishing returns or player-reduction gears.

>>159434429
Just get enchanter

Linker sucks with that build

>>159434853

how can linker possible sux in tree of swordsman
character is mostly a heavy cc support at this point

I know that enchant lightning is great for dps but it only beats joint penalty on bossing

>>159434571
Each potential lost is less Blessed Stones you get back one day after you scrap your current weapon for something better in a future update. Awakening or upgrading beyond +5 is not worth it at all.

>>159434429
Linker's garbage for your combos. You're gonna go through the hit count too fast to make it worth anything.

Runecaster too reliant on QC from what I understand.

Warlock could be good for PvP and maybe farming in PvE, but Warlock2 is so bad right now that it means you're hoping that Warlock2 gets buffed in the future or that rank9 opens up a class that benefits you somehow.

>>159435291

Upgrading past +5 is usually worth it because most upgrades provide higher bonuses after +5.

Also transcending takes fucking ages, if you don't buy the shards, it takes almost a year and a half to fully transcend one weapon.
Unless you're funded as fuck, don't save your potential for that extra transcend you probably wont be getting for months anyway.

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>Woodspirit has 20k health left
>Suddenly unleashes an ungodly combo on only me

>>159435783
>spends months making a weapon
>spend years upgrading it

good game

Is Elememe build STILL SHIT?

>>159436047

To be honest with you, I'd be completely fine with that if you had both more control over the finished result and about 8 new tiers of weapons weren't going to be released before you finish the weapon, making all your effort a waste of time.

>>159435652

linker has the hitcount problem but that's only for icewall pressure. build's main dps is gravity pole & pressure. also, you can link the walls and pressure a bigger area without having to resort to the icewall surfing method. but again, it's more of a support thing to parties and also helps when solo for positioning stuff with hangman's knot

also, it seems that joint penalty is still doubling some not really true aoe spells

warlock is a c1 only thing. I have 0 interest in wl 3 becaue that's mean giving up cryo3 or kino 3 so I don't mind warlock 2 sucking forever

runecaster has the long cooldown shit. I can live wit ha 6 sec casting rune, but 3 min cooldown is hard to deal

Is there anything special in how advancement for hidden classes works? Or do you just go talk to the relevant NPC once you reach class level 15 and have the Advancement button?

>>159436209
If you can fund yourself up to 3000 magic attack, it's still viable.

>>159435652
Warlock2 is the best silver maker in the game right now

>>159436209
It's good for farming/grinding

>>159436591

Hidden classes are usually one rank only.
You got to do some silly quest to unlock them, and that is it. They have no additional circles.

>>159436649
Don't you need to actively farm or use a bot/macros to do it though?

>>159434429
Warlock 1 would be a waste, imo.

I'd go sage to be a missile hole bitch. Despite sage being garbage outside of that skill, it's extremely useful in pve.

Link 1 is okay, I guess. But also remember that monsters are starting to show up that are resistant to it, and at 1 you don't offer much else.

>runecaster
I have no opinion.

>>159437016
So what?
You still make good money
The only other option is to RMT or afk farm bees

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That party name and why my burd landed on her shoulder when i tried to flying around with hovering?
Btw if there are still active people left on Fedimian i could provide slot

>Faggot going afk and leeching in low level dungeons
Worse than hitler

>>159433086

it boosts even elemental attack, silly anon. it works on your total damage after almost everything as long as you crit, like preparation

>>159437609
>Not getting them killed and giving them no exp

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>>159437560
>Toffee House
>Mekomi

CUTE!

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>>159437016

If you macro warlock skills it's bannable. No one is going to ban you, but it is.

Actively farming as a warlock can net you 600k to 800k an hour, plus monster gems and vouchers (you'll see quite a lot of these).

The problem is only one other player has to walk into the same area and contest you and your money per minute goes down instantly.

However as Warlock you can actively steal the entire Bee farm from Necromancers. In fact, it's one of the best spots to steal because you don't have to run around or rely on events. Also the Necros don't respond because all AFK. The amount of loot too makes for good fodder for gems.

You risk pissing people off who find out you've done it, but it's a solid 800k per hour and with campfires you don't need to even use SP pots.

However places like DP2 need SP pots because you're moving around constantly. The only benefit there is that there's more gem variety, but nothing too great. You also get a ton of lvl 2 yellow gems, but those are kind of shit. And again, if another warlock joins in you can't keep up. Because you have to run constantly and the spawn rate isn't fast enough your spirits, even with the attribute 25+ seconds, won't stay long enough to clean the rooms for you.

However in the bees they will. I highly recommend just going to bees, spawning spirits on all spawn spots and then staying there for as long as you like. It's the better spot by a huge margin.

Places like Royal Mausoleum Storage / Constructor only give like 300k an hour at best, and the first floor is always camped by people boosting their friends. If you can get the two rooms (and now there's only 2 channels, so no 100% uptime anymore) you still net very little silver, but you gain a lot more trash to sell and level 1 gems and because you kill hundreds of thousands of mobs, possibilities of vouchers / monster gems are huge.

Still, for pure silver, go bees. Piss necros off. Everyone wins.

Anons hows the two new doppel skills? how do I alloc my skill points?

WHY THE FUCK THIS GAMES HAS NO "REVIVE IN FEDIMIAN" OPTION?

>>159439812
>Dying in PvE