/r6g/ - Rainbow Six General

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First for additional weapons for existing operators.
I just want an MP5/10, is that so much to ask?

First for that guy you clearly shot in the head is still alive.

>>159379240
>no Red Crow links
wow...

http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-GB/updates/redcrow/index.aspx

>>159379459
triggered

>>159379459
alt+f4

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New thread means I can post this again

>>159379715
Am I wrong in saying that there's very little Valk art? I mean I'm pretty sure we have more Cav are, though most of them involve her being a huge booly to Glaz.

>>159379502
There's nothing there yet, m8.

>>159379884
Yeah, I'd like some more valk art.
some sexual art

>>159379884
I certainly wouldn't mind more but I can't draw for shit.

>>159376128
Back requesting this again

xth for Frost isn't an Inuit. You're dumb if you think this

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>>159379715

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why does the jap girl operator not even look japanese ??

>>159379939
But links to two articles? And growing an article a day just like last time?

Season 4 Preview Site Kick-off
Operation Red Crow Map Preview: Skyscraper

That's not nothing.

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>>159380110

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>>159380073
>look up muscular female lewds
>it's all body builder amazonians rather than just toned athletic women

fugg

>>159380238
Typical American

>>159380313
I mean, the Season 4 leaks tell much more than that, but okay, I'll put it on the next one

>>159380281
to cockblock weebs

>>159380674
Yeah but not everyone is here when leaks happen.

>>159380830
>implying i wont just go for echo instead

literally can't find a ranked match on friday evening. i thought this pos game wasn't dead yet

Is there any way to get free boosters?

>>159381093
I mean the Season 4 leak info in the OP

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You know the drill. Post 'em

>>159382118
All that has is operators and map. Eventually we will get more information on other things. I mean, just in the summary article they mention caliber/ballistic changes on wall damage. That wasn't in the leaks.

>>159382863
For our first look at what the season brings, we’re going to be introducing caliber-based destruction for all weapons. Up until the launch of Season 4, every bullet has created the same size hole. The impact zone and fragility sphere are now weapon-specific, which means stronger calibers will create bigger bullet holes and generate larger impulses. This will create an even more realistic experience with the destructibility of the environment.

>>159382819
I have like 10

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>>159382819
no bully pls, I bought blackbeard today and it set my savings to 0

>>159382819
What the fuck, how many hours played?
Each match is about 20 minutes, and gives 300 at most.

>>159381623
only when ubi gives them out for server outages and they're selective when it comes to that

>>159383589
Well if you don't spend dosh on skins and headgear, do all the challenges, then also do the weekly challenges, and play everyday it's possible.

Get on the teamspeak, friendos. Time to operate.

>>159383945
Problem for challenges is you need to get operators.
The DLC ones need like 100 won matches worth of renown.

>>159384550
oh...sorry. I got the game a few months after release and never bought skins/headgear. I got all the base operators even before the first DLC. Then every time DLC ops released, I had enough to get them. I didn't think of people who started late and are still unlocking even the base OPs. But you can still do the non-Op related challenges. You can still use the recruits also for the CTU challenges. Except the DLC CTUs.

Do you ever just have some days when nothing goes right?

Jeez, it's depressing

>>159380437
>tsang
>inuit

>>159385848
My life
But yeah, I've gone on tilt more than a few times.

>>159385848
lets not turn this general into a place where people talk about their lives

>>159386053
I was talking about Siege bruh

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>>159386053
Operating is life

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>>159386676
Can I please have more pictures like this.
And by this I mean IQ

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>>159387305
more like iQT

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>>159387305

This is new

>play with some guys
>two are cool, ones kind of a fag
>usually go 1-3 or something similar when we play
>only ever win when its me and one of the guys

do i make a new ubi account or what

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>>159387727
>complaining that you are superior

also more IQ

http://i.imgur.com/blmNuVD.gif
Why's an image from Killingfloor here?

>>159387305

IQ is full anime now

>>159388094
>>complaining that you are superior

No, we just have shitty synergy. Like I just said, when me and only one of them play we do well.

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>>159388253
>now

>>159388218
We're only muck'n about

>>159388218
fixed

>>159382819
27,543

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>>159386676
>>159387305
>>159387393
>>159387407
>>159388094
>>159388417
> we almost had a trash free thread

damn

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>>159390375


This guys right


Post Frost

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>>159390375
>complains about trash
>links game relevant posts
>contributes nothing

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>>159390375
OC drawfriend shit is o.k.
Or at least better than what you're posting (nothing)
Just pray to God it doesn't turn into depraved waifuposting and we'll be alright

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>>159390558

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> he doesn't silence his pistols

>>159390820
as long as it doesn't turn into something similar to the overwatch general i think we'll be fine.

>>159390820
>>159390845
Dear God...

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>>159390845

THIS

IS

NOT


KINO

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>>159391006
IQ fags in a nutshell

>>159391006
>>159391039

don't worry friendos i got much more if you need any.

>waiting in queue for 30 minutes

uhhh??

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>>159390927
>not being loud

>>159390845
I don't think anyones ever asked for lewds like this.

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>>159391430
> he's not a stealth pro

>>159391731
nah m8 Fuze all day

If I want to be "sneaky" I'll pick Rook and lay my fat ass in a corner and buttscoot around

>>159391184
please stop posting this shitty reddit artist, we've seen it all multiple times

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>>159392020

>get into a casual game with a 4 stack
>they're doing strat roulette or whatever
>loosely play along because why not
>they're kinda bad but it was decently fun I guess
>ask if I wanna do custom games with them
>sure
>it's 3v2
>alright whatever it's all for fun right
>guy I'm with clearly doesn't want to be with me, the guy they just met in casual
>two rounds in we're doing the same two strats we did all last game
>knife only and revolvers only
>"revolvers only"
>they pick Montagne and shields and get mad when I nitro

And that's why you don't do epic custom games.

>>159391184
>>159390845
Did this guy fail Human Anatomy 101?

>>159393289
Self taught most likely, looks like someone who never learned how to draw correctly and just did it a lot

>>159393289
>i don't like the style therefore it's bad

unironically kill yourself

>>159385848
Fuck
Fuck
Fuck
FUCK

I'm doing so shit but I just can't STOP

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>>159395275
You said this before, Reddit. We laughed you out last time then too.

>>159395704
doesn't make it any less true

>>159395275
I read similar weak defenses from butthurt 14 year-old Deviantart users

>>159395275
>fucking up human anatomy is style

>>159395275
>the style

No, thats just not knowing how to draw, there is no style associated besides being bad

>>159395275
t. vek

>>159391339
>not a single ranked game for an entire hour
>restarting game, joining casuals in between

UH HELLO?? UBI ARE YOU THERE?

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What kind of operators you want, faṃ?

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>>159395275
I agree. See this picture of Bandit right here? It's not actually low effort and without any sense of artisitic value, it's actually just a different artstyle. I deserve money and recognition for this.

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>>159395275
look man
whether you're that guy or just some anon it doesn't matter
what the hell are you hoping to accomplish?

do you really think you'll convince anyone?
do (you)s really mean that much to you?
either way you're pathetic

>>159395942
fuck off leddit

>>159396785
Added to the gallery

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>>159396785
>tfw /r6g/ drawfriends shit all over plebbit's

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>>159396785
I agree. This is a piece I recently created. It's actually just a bunch of scribbles on a canvas, three times in a row. It took me 20 minutes, 15 of which was going to the art store to buy the canvas. But its just my style.

This sold for $70 Million

>>159397114
No one can wear those kind of glasses and not look like some crazy scientist.

>>159397287
modern art is a game of how much notoriety you can build up before selling literal shit to people

remember that cleaning lady in spain who threw away some piece on a coffee table because she thought it was trash?

>>159397287
Art has subjective, not objective value, this is what you anti-modern art circlejerks fail to understand over and over again

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>>159397287
>>159397671
>>159397704
wtf is happening to this thread

>>159397704
No its not.

Analysts and studies say that people only buy garbage modern art because theres a big name behind it. So they can show off to their snobby retard friends who have an inheritance and say "Oh Danielle Faggbottoms did this one"

It seems like you are a pro-modern art parrot, and this is what you apparently fail to understand

>>159397671
i know i was just making a point

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>>159395275
>>159396785
>>159397287
>>159397671
>>159397704
>>159397931

>>159397704
Well tell me what the fuck the subjective value of that scrawl is then to you that makes it worth 70 fucking million

in that piece I see a fuckwit who thought it would be funny to see how far he could go with minimal effort before letting pretentious rich people at it trying to one-up each other

I love several modern artists for their message or even skill and the context of the piece can be very important to its merit
but this
this is an insult
>inb4 what if that's the point
the point is subjective :^)

what's the title anyways? I kinda want to learn more

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Were getting to the point where the content drought is getting to our heads

/r6g/- Art Critique

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someone screencap this please
this has got to be a defining moment in /r6g/ history

I hope they show a teaser video of the new operators tomorrow. I'm hoping we get some news today at all since it's the weekend.

>>159398853
we'll just judge the composition of the splash

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>>159396785
Actually kinda felt like drawing Bandit after that shitty one I drew just as a joke. This one is still a joke but at least I tried this time

>>159398948
It's a damn good joke, though.

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>>159398948
Hey man, I drew a shitty stick figure comic and some people seemed to like. Even if it is "shitty", as long as it gets the point across I don't think people mind. [spoilers] still waiting for a better artist to remake it ;_; [/spoilers]

>>159399238
I never noticed the Black Eye in the corner.

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>>159399238
tfw it's the team doesn't speak English episode

>>159399238
Need for eager recruit

how the FUCK do you defend top floor of hereford base?

>>159400361
You just don't, you're almost relying on the enemy to be bad

But if someone has figured out something that really works for them, I'd love to read it.

Idea:

Ubisoft should release the win/loss stats in ranked of Gold or Plat upwards for each objective location, to figure out which ones are the most skewed towards attackers or defenders, and revisit map balance based on these results, to attempt to make them more balanced.

Good idea or shitty idea? Why?

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CALL ME A FUCKING RETARD BUT
https://youtu.be/xNter0oEYxc?t=6m3s

has anybody noticed this?

Why ubisoft would downgrade the game so much in PC/PS4?

holy fuck, im so mad right now.

>>159401853
>CALL ME A FUCKING RETARD
ok, fucking retard

>>159401853
This is old. But most people know or expected that it was bullshot. But personally for me, it pumps me up when I watch that vid. Not the graphics but the actions and the idea of siege. And it ended up that even if the graphics aren't as good on release, the game play is still good. Same could not be said of Watchdogs.

>>159401853
Oh shit its havoc!

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>>159401853
One of the biggest slowpokes I've seen in a while

>>159402138
>>159402075
honestly i bought & enjoyed the game without knowing this trailer, now i am a bit mad, they could done it better.

i mean, it's almost a year and ranked mode is still on beta.

sigh ubi

>>159402245
It use to be not in Beta, but then after problems and them changing stuff, they slapped that Beta moniker to cover their asses in a way. Problem in rank? It's in beta.

>>159402245
I assure you, anon, they could not have done it better.

>>159402521
>>159402245
on top of it all, vid was clearly conceptual:
>rapelling in to spawn would be spawnpeaker's paradise
>full destruction on any surface would have been a fucking nightmare
>defenders able to move the hostage LOL :^)
etc

>>159402618
Yeah, I don't think it would have run smoothly.

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>join casual game in progress
>its me and one other vs a 3 stack of clan plats and 2 high levels

>>159379446
>One half of an MP
for what purpose

I went 9-1-2 today in my third ever ranked game.

Felt fucking amazing.

>>159401853
Stop posting crowbcuck shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fu56Ja2t5Q

what do you guys do when you're having one of those days where you do fuck-all every game

it feels like god just wants to get a kick out of how terrible he can make someone at a videogame on a whim

WALL FORTIFICATIONS COMPLETE

>>159404757

YOU FUCKING IDIOT THAT WAS KIDS ROOM

>>159404669
I try my best to communicate with my team and pick Rook/Thermite to be a team player

So does Frost just use a human Size mouse trap?

>>159405370
>what is a bear trap

>>159405415

A trap for bears?


Here trap doesn't seem to have teeth yet it looks like it's designed to break bones

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>>159404757
ドローンを使って、爆弾を探せ。

>>159405493
why would frosts icon have teeth if the actual trap doesnt

>>159405682
because people recognize those teeth instantly—you know, like how an icon is literally supposed to work

what the fuck does jager say for one of his reinforced wall lines
>"laying carpenter on that wall"

>>159405826
hey says "playing carpenter on that wall"

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recruit uprising now.
no longer will they be bullied.

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>>159407020
sauce?

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have a shitty dose of radical to keep you warm through the night

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>>159407206
bandit bullying recruit
E N O U G H

>>159407206
>silencer
>dropshotting

w e w

My buddy is about to start R6S with me, help me make a list of Operators he should buy first to get him started

Im thinking Rook, Thermite, Sledge, Mute, Smoke, Thatcher, Jager & Bandit

>>159409586
add Ash and he's golden.

>>159409665
Thoughts on Pulse? I remember he WAS good but I think that was in shotgun meta

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>>159409586
blackbeard

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> you can literally see where this game starting going to shit

ubi done fumbled another good property.

>>159411825
>treating youtube views as an indicator of quality

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>>159382819
That was from a month ago, have not touched the game since. Waiting for S4 to hit.

>>159411825
>already small community
>trailers that have been out over long stretches of time and over the course of multiple sales versus one that came out less than a week ago, and there's a difference of only 100k views

I mean...

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>took me 5 mins to find a game
>finally get to defend the hostage
>guarding stairs
>waiting for that head peak
>randomly die
>guy with 400 ping ran up the stairs and sprayed me down
>didn't even see his head let alone his whole body run up the steps

Yep this game got real old after hitting that 1000 hour mark.

>>159415938
that's skull rain, not red crow or whatever

https://gamerant.com/rainbow-six-siege-player-count-354/

But apparently we have been growing?

>>159417156
worth noting that doesn't track non-steam copies of the game, (i.e. uplay only)

I see 3 speed defenders get like 5m out the door before the detection timer even starts

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>>159418497

>>159418553
the timer is only there so that they cant get to any substantial cover

the best defense for defending against that is to get someone watching the likely spots that they're peeking from, or a claymore

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>>159418791

>>159418732
>peeking
they're full on sprinting out to headshot trade at spawn

>>159418497
>>159418614
>>159418791
>>159418897
Why do people record this type of leak shit and don't actually do or show anything? Show some new ops at least, shit man.

>>159419121
the guy was making a strat vid for his pro league butt buddies and one of his friends leaked it apparently

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Enjoy this amusing photo of Bandit I found

>>159396679
ACTION PACKED MOVIE


THIS IS SERIOUS


DROP DE-BOMB OVA

THE MAN IS KILLING US MAN

EVERYONE IN UGANDA KNOWS KUNG FU

>>159423612

Captain Alex in Siege when?

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>>159396679
such a good movie

>>159424583
Tiger Mafia op when?

is Siege still alive?
is it even worth it to try and get into it if I have no friends to play this with?
I havent bought a new game in ages and Siege looks really nice

>>159425742
you could play with the ts
none of my friends play it either

>>159397931
>>159398219
Do you not understand what subjective means?
I wouldnt pay 5 bucks for this shit, but if someone pays 70 million for it, then its worth 70 million bucks, thats all there is to it.
Art is always worth as much as people are willing to pay for it.

>>159425742
As someone who entirely soloqeues in casual, it's fine for the most part. Sometimes you'll land in a team of absolute dicks, so there's always that risk, but other times, rarely, you'll land in a team that clicks really well together and have a blast.

>>159385848
Yep, there's no consistency for me lately for some reason. Some days I'm the hammer, other days I'm the nail. I'm not playing any differently from one day to the next, I guess I'm just inconsistent lately.

>>159390605
>He thinks waifuposting counts as contributing
Get headshotted from a window, my man.

>>159425742
Nah, not dead

Guys quick question.

i just downloaded ravenshield (black ops, the version you download from the stick)

every time i'm in the briefing/planning section the game lacks so damn much

i'm running windows 7

>>159405569
I like her...

>>159379240
Anyone else getting really tired of the game? Super aggro defenders and the same ops being used every round. Its just not as fun anymore.

>>159405682
>Why fuze's grenades have a face on the icon if the actual gadget doesn't have one

Is there anything I should know before playing ranked? Ive been scared about it since i got the game

>>159428871
How long have you been playing?

>>159428928
Four months I would say

>>159428871
Do you know how to prefire, drone, and make callouts?

>>159429180
Callouts im iffy on but the other ones yeah

>>159425742
>>159426365
This or eventually git gud and ace/clutch every round. That rush you'll get when clutching and acing for the first time will feel like nuttin.

>>159429326
Well start paying attention to map terminology and start doing those three things way more.

>>159429494
Alright, thanks

>>159428409
How to fix Siege:
>Ban defenders from going outside
This will stop a lot of bullshit from happening. I don't wanna hear people criticize this, the fact remains defenders were designed to defend, not roam outside the building and hunt the attackers down. I'm fine with roamers but within the fucking building. The fact there's even a delay before the game tells you is ridiculous in itself.
>Better map selection
It seems like the game either cycles all the shitty maps at once or all the good ones, never just a modest mix of everything.
>Nerf Nitro
Just make it so it can't be tossed, remove the noise so it could act as a viable trap.
>Nerf 3 speed operators
They're just too fast, with lag involved it makes them seriously glitchy and it's pretty bogus.
>Re-do armor values
Clearly something's fucked up when I can mow down 3 armor ops with relative ease but watch a 1 armor op like Capitao tank half a clip and be relatively unscathed.
>Make Ash's hitbox larger
She may very well be the most OP piece of shit in the game now that BB's been neutered. The way she practically teleports into rooms with her lightning speed, ridiculously tiny hitbox, and best-in-class AR is just plain silly, she needs a nerf and it needs to be her hitbox.
>Fix the fucking matchmaking
I'm noticing seriously unbalanced games more and more with one team usually being exponentially superior to the other. You can pretty much figure out who's gonna win before the first round even starts. The futility of solo-queuing onto a team with unrankeds/silvers/golds vs. a team of all plats+ really kills any potential fun.
>Fix the fucking hit registration/netcode
Yeah, yeah, everyone says this but it really can't be stressed enough. There is no excuse for blatantly headshotting someone and seeing blood spatter only to get one-banged a tenth of a second after and seeing the enemy at half health because the game decided your headshot was actually a shoulder shot. That's unacceptable and must change.

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>>159429438
>ace for the first time
>don't even realize it's happened
>other team has to type out "ace?" and tell me that it happened for me to realize it

does this mean I'm retarded?

>>159429738
>Ban defenders from going outside
>Nerf Nitro
>Nerf 3 speed operators
Retarded, but do go on.

>>159429959
Why is it retarded to make the defenders actually defend? They shouldn't be able to go outside in the first place, it completely ruins the entire basis of the game.

Nitro was obviously meant to be used as a trap, not a ghetto grenade. It's not making it any weaker, just changing the way it's used.

3 speed ops should be a little bit slower is all I'm saying, I don't think that's gamebreaking at all.

>>159429738
>Ban defenders from going outside
No, claymores completely solve this issue. It wouldn't stop maps like Kanal from being an outside peeking slaughterhouse.
>Better map selection
I agree in part, but then everyone would just pick fucking House and Hereford all day. Just put on the maps you like in your preferences and hope you get them.
>Nerf nitro
Nitro is fine where it is now, since only those that should really have it, have it. When nitro was just an add-on gadget for a bunch of ops that didn't even need it, then yeah it was a problem.
>Nerf 3 speed operators
This is a problem with the netcode, not with 3-speeds. I hate them too but nerfing them would just cause a bigger shitstorm.
>Re-do armor values
This is more of a hitreg issue than anything, at least from what you complained about.
>Make Ash's hitbox larger
She always has been ridiculously good and this is one of those reasons.
>Fix the fucking matchmaking
Beta* ;)
>Fix the fucking hit registration/netcode
Probably your only completely valid complaint.

>>159429738
>clip

>>159430551
>Nitro is fine where it is now, since only those that should really have it, have it. When nitro was just an add-on gadget for a bunch of ops that didn't even need it, then yeah it was a problem.

nitro should be used as a fucking trap, not a ghetto grenade

just increase the fuse to 3 seconds, and remove the crappy noise and red lights on it
and BANG, good trap

>>159429738
>Better map selection
This one really rustles my jimmies. I'm lucky to see Border or Favelas maybe once a day but fuck me if I don't get put on Yacht or Kanal at least 5 fucking times.

It's passed 10am and no article. Welp maybe later.

>>159429921
Nah, usually ypu don't notice aces. I meant ace/clutches

>>159430771
I agree that it shouldn't be a ghetto grenade, but it's fine where it is right now. Let them fix the actual pressing matters first before completely redesigning a gadget.

>>159429959
It only really gets retarded in combination.

>no outside play
Could be workable if and only if there was some indirect buff to defenders, like making your weapon sight sway when moving, with extra sway for extra zoom, which would make holding angles a viable tactic.

But with his addendum of:

>nerf nitro
It becomes idiotic. If anything in a game with no outside play nitro should be buffed with something subtle but game-altering, like getting rid of the beeping proximity noise it makes.

Then there's

>nerf 3 speeds
No, fix the netcode and 3 speeds are fine, this one is just dumb.

And now for a really good idea:
FIX THE FUCKING MM PREFERENCES SO WE CAN TURN OFF THE GARBAGE UNBALANCED MAPS THAT UBI FORCES ON EVERYONE. IF I TURN OFF HOUSE, I SHOULD NEVER SEE THAT MAP AT ALL. I DEFINITELY SHOULDN'T GET PUT ON IT LIKE 1 IN EVERY 5 GAMES.

For anyone curious about the starter edition, this is what I got after 241 hours, plus necessary attachments for each operator and one universal skin.

I feel like I got my money's worth considering I scrounged the €15 to buy this game from selling CSGO skins. It's worth it if you know for sure you're going to be playing regardless, but my god what I wouldn't give to unlock at a normal rate.

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>>159431226
Forgive me, I'm retarded.

>>159431226
I just got the standard edition for $20 on cdkeys then the season pass for another 20 on kinguin

>>159430551
>Implying all attackers have claymores and know how to properly set them up
A defender that isn't retarded will check for claymores before going outside. Claymores definitely help but they haven't stopped defenders venturing outside from being a pain in the ass we shouldn't have to deal with. It's obviously against the idea of the game given the fact the game tries to punish you for doing it, it's just not much of a punishment at all.
>Implying I haven't already fixed my preferences
Did it a while ago, didn't change shit outside of T-Hunt
>Implying Nitro isn't still OP as shit and makes shielders completely useless
What's wrong with making Nitro be used as originally intended? You never showcased a real downside, just said it wasn't as bad as before.
>Implying nerfing 3-speeds by a slight bit would make it worse
How? They've already shown they're literal shit at fixing netcode, this is a compromise to at least sort of help it along. I'm saying this as someone that mains Jager on defense.
>Hit-reg issues
I agree and took that into account, but I do think there is some general inconsistency they could go over.
>'She always been ridiculously good and this is one of those reasons.
Yes, and she's overpowered. She has literally no downside, she's fastest in game, smallest hitbox, best gun, and extremely versatile/useful gadget. Her having 1 armor is supposed to be the trade off except good fucking luck hitting the cunt, the hitbox needs to be more on par with Twitch and IQ.
>'Beta* ;)'
True, though I meant across the board, matchmaking in casual and ranked both suck.

>>159431421
>a defender that isn't retarded will check for claymores
Why do you want to punish a smart player? You should be able to hear the door breaking, and with the time it takes for him to destroy the claymore you have even more time.

>>159431383
Yeah, would have liked to do that but I'm a poorfag.

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>>159431354
>unlocked castle before pulse

For what purpose?

>>159431582
Castle and Ash were the 2 operators the game unlocked for me in the beginning.

>>159431218
How does it become idiotic making it so defenders can't completely break the game by going outside and raping the attackers CoD style? They already have the fucking advantage in the first place, nevermind this.

I don't see how making it so you can't toss your nitro like a fucking ghetto grenade is nerfing it, nothing's actually changing except the way it's used. The blast radius would remain and I even said to remove the noise so it could be a trap. Hell, remove the fucking light too, give IQ more reason to be picked, whatever. You and I both know the way nitro is used wasn't what the intended use was, don't even attempt to bullshit it.

>Implying Ubisoft is capable of truly fixing the netcode
Surely they would have by now if it were as simple as you just made it seem there. Until they can work in a proper fix of the netcode, they should slightly decrease the speed of 3 armor ops. There is literally nothing wrong with that, you're just a fucking baby who uses nothing but 3 speeds if you're really gonna bitch about that. I fucking use 3 speeds and even realize how OP it can be.

And your last point I actually agree with but think it goes by the majority of your team's settings. So if you're the only guy with house turned off, chances are you're fucked.

>>159431531
>Implying you can always hear doors/windows breaking and implying most won't just write it off as a friendly breaking in
>Implying they wouldn't be smart enough to break the barricade down/shoot out the claymore while a firefight is happening or Thermite's breaching
You're not making any real points as to why defenders should be allowed outside. It's obviously not intended to work that way, otherwise the game wouldn't reveal your location to the attackers. That alone should indicate it's frowned upon, they just went too lenient with it for MP. It should mimic terrorist hunt if anything, you go out, you die.

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Loading dock on Kanal should be considered outside. Defenders should be immediately spotted when they go outside. Increase timer to 3 seconds. Defenders staying outside longer than the timer permits die instantly to overwatch like in defensive T-hunt modes.

>>159401853
The footage is obviously a bullshot, but it does look decent on max settings on PC. Also, the destruction footage they showed was real, they scrapped a part of the engine because of console limitations.

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NERF THAT 3 SPEED

They just need to tune them down a notch or 2, nothing drastic.

>>159432037
This all comes down to communication, which is what is most important in this game. You should have someone watching windows and doorways in a situation like that, you should have droned it out or had a drone watching the entrance to get there. Almost anything that happens in Siege is preventable from happening.

>>159432202
Careful anon, you might trigger the 3 speed babbies.

I literally said the same thing, just a slight nerf, not turning them down to fucking 1 speed.

>>159401853
Not defending it, but to be fair a lot of the lighting would have been changed for balancing, especially that helicopter light. Although I do like the game looking darker.

Also I dunno what Crowb is at when it comes to the destruction, all they did was add studs to make it more realistic rather than having every wall made of crackers.

>>159432526
>>159432202
>instead of fixing the actual issue just half ass it
You two should apply to Ubisoft.

>>159432452
Except those times where none of your teammates have mics and/or are randoms you just got placed with. I'm talking about the game in general, it happens in ranked and casual and it's fucking annoying. I'm sick of try-hards in casual and I'm sick of retards in ranked.

I shouldn't have to make sure I have a full squad just to play the damn game and enjoy it somewhat.

You're attempting to shift the goal posts in every post but fail to acknowledge IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. That's the entire fucking point and you're conveniently overlooking it for whatever reason.

You haven't even mentioned any negatives of removing the ability to go outside which makes me believe you're just coming up with 'points' for the sake of fruitless discussion.

>>159432202
Wouldn't Knaifu be useless if she was slower

>>159432724
>He thinks Ubisoft actually can/will fix the netcode
Did you reserve your copy of Watch Dogs 2 as well? I hear it's gonna be great.

>>159432910
Oh right, because a SLIGHT reduction in speed means Fuze will be able to out run her.

Why are you so dense?

Hint: Nobody's saying anything about getting rid of 3 speed, we're saying make it a little less fast. They'd still be faster than 1 and 2 speeds, what part aren't you getting?

>>159432948
tfw ubisoft is amazing at laying down framework but consistently fucks up things like bug fixes and netcode

There's literally no good reason The Division wasn't the greatest game of all time other than french people tend to trip and land on their face once they're out the door.

>>159402245
I too, enjoy lots of dust and shitty lighting in my games.

Why are people wanting the game to be changed because they're awful?
The roamer meta is fine as is; if the defenders all stuck in the same room they'd lose every time; the direct counter to spawn peeking/assholes jumping out windows is to not sprint out of spawn, drone and be observant.
>>159432948
Obviously they can't fit it completely but they sure as fuck can improve it significantly by removing the retarded as fuck lag comp. The current biggest issue is shots not registering and y'all are whining about some spastic getting the drop on your retarded ass because you didn't peek first; I'm sure if they were a 2 speed you wouldn't have died and you would've been able to kill them first.

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>matched with 2 coppers and 2 silvers
>enemy is a 5man with 3 golds and 2 plats

>>159433113
Seriously though. It's like these people have no clue who they're dealing with and/or they just forgot.

They've been saying they've been fixing the netcode since the game came out and yet it's worse than ever right now. It was the best pre-Dust Line in my opinion and has steadily gotten worse from there.

Surely if they were gonna fix it they would have by now instead of it getting worse. The fact people still have faith in them at this juncture is a fucking joke. For fuck's sake, they still have ranked in beta and people legitimately think they're capable of fixing the netcode?

>>159431807
Nitro and going outside are like the two most powerful defensive tools you asshat. Nerfing both of them destroys any hope of the defenders winning a round. And honestly if you're getting killed by nitro as a non-shield operator it's entirely your own fault for being garbage at the game.

>>159433463
>it's worse than ever

Not calling you out, just wondering what makes you say that? I haven't had half as many rage moments due to the netcode following Skull Rain.

>>159426364
Sounds like kike-speak to me

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>if you want X changed you must be bad
>if you don't you must be using X

>>159433231
Literally nobody said anything about roamers/spawn-peeking, just defenders abusing going outside as a feature that shouldn't exist.

Also, you're acting like everyone should try-hard in every single game ever, sorry but not everyone goes full try-hard every game. Some people just play to have fun and not constantly trying to be a pro leaguer.

>Remove lag comp
Don't you think if that was a viable solution they would have done it by now? Yes, the biggest issue is shots not registering, why can't they address that and make 3 speeds a slight bit slower? They can't walk and chew bubblegum? They're incompetent but they're not THAT bad, give it a rest.

You still haven't made ANY points at all, just given your opinions which don't contribute to anything.

>>159433556
For myself personally, I've noticed more and more headshots that don't actually count as headshots. It's gotten gradually worse as things have gone on, it's at the worst it's been the past month or so. I don't know how or why but that's what it's been like.

>>159433472
NOBODY'S NERFING NITRO YOU FUCKING RETARDED KEK! All that was said was change the way it's used so it's a trap instead of a fucking grenade, stop being retarded.

And going outside is not a defensive tool, it's abusing the game and you fucking know it. And really? Defenders automatically lose if they can't go outside? That's funny, I never go outside and yet I win far more than I lose. I've also lost attacker rounds where defenders haven't ventured outside, guess it was just a fluke win for them.

And by the way, roaming is the most powerful defensive tool you fucking faggot. Your bronze is showing.

>>159433472
>Nerfing both of them destroys any hope of the defenders winning a round.
Holy shit

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>>159433976
>defenders abusing going outside as a feature that shouldn't exist
>I shouldn't be punished for not paying attention or using the tools they gave me to counter this
Scrub.
>Don't you think if that was a viable solution they would have done it by now?
The reason why they haven't is because it cripples sand niggers ruskies BR's and other trash's ability to get kills. The current lag compensation is far too forgiving but you wouldn't know since you're probably new to the game or didn't bother to find out just how bad it is. The higher your latency the bigger advantage you get.
>why can't they address that and make 3 speeds a slight bit slower?
Fixes nothing but makes you feel slightly better.
>You still haven't made ANY points at all, just given your opinions which don't contribute to anything.
I'm fairly convinced you're either trolling or retarded at this point; all you've been doing is whining NERF THINGS I DON'T LIKE and while I agree this game is far from perfect you're ignoring actual issues and instead clamoring for whatever makes your copper three ass feel less shit. I mainly play Buck and Doc by the way so I'm not a 3speed shitter.

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>start game and sit in main menu
>decide to fap
>come back to game
>can't connect to servers

>>159435219
It's Yves' way of punishing you for sinning.

>>159435219
That's what you get for your degeneracy.

>>159434958
Holy shit, projection: The Post.

Why do they give away the defenders' locations if they go outside then? If it was an intended feature that shit wouldn't happen, they were just too forgiving with it and need to make it like defender T-Hunt.

The reason they haven't is because it would fucking royally destroy the game you retard, this game needs lag comp. This must be your first FPS if you think it's that bad, there are far, far worse. I'm not new at all, I've been playing on PS4 since Black Ice, go fuck yourself.

It would actually fix the 3 speed ops from fucking teleporting around the room, dumbass. They're too fast with how laggy the game is and how shitty the netcode is and they WILL NOT FIX THAT, so this is a compromise. If you don't understand what that means, then I can't help you.

How am I ignoring actual issues when I've literally been saying to focus on them all? And I'm a fucking Gold I you piece of shit, project harder.

>>159436049
>Why do they give away the defenders' locations if they go outside then? If it was an intended feature that shit wouldn't happen, they were just too forgiving with it and need to make it like defender T-Hunt
This is as far as I read. (You) are retarded.

>>159431578
I also bought the starter edition from selling a CS:GO skin.
Dont know if you did but you could've farmed renown before it was patched. I have unlocked almost all the Operators execpt Capitao Doc and Buck and saved me a lot of time.

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>>159435219
>decide to fap

>another quality reddit post
https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6/comments/5baj1x/new_s5_operator_leak/

>>159436162
>Stops reading after the first sentence
Thanks for proving you're a child, that's how children act.
>He thinks Ubisoft fully intended for defenders to go outside in a game literally about holding down an objective/area
No amount of cheeky replies will change the fact that's not how the game was designed or meant to be played.

What are you gonna do if they DO make it so defenders can't go outside, quit?

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>>159436643
Did they buff shotguns when nobody was paying attention or something?

They don't seem as shit as they were after the nerf.

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>>159436905
I have no fucking idea, didn't feel that much different. These guys were pretty low to begin with I'm sure

>>159437109
>(You)
it's actually a GPMG since it fires 7.62x54

>>159435456
Its written YHVH

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>No Red Crow info today

FUCK

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>>159437663
Nice name :^)

>>159432834
If you balance the game around being forgiving for teams with no communication and poor coordination then you ruin what makes the game worth playing.

>>159436515
If they wanted to design the game around never going outside, why didn't they design the game that way? Huh. It's almost like the game wasn't designed that way.

>>159438119
Not at all...

Making defenders unable to venture outside does not ruin what makes the game worth playing.

What makes the game worth playing is how unique it is compared to other shooters and the fact it has a strong community despite no advertising at all and a very underwhelming launch.

There is literally no substitute for good communication, no amount of balancing one way or the other changes that. You're overreacting in my opinion.

>>159438756
Why did they make it so it gives away your location then?

They obviously did it to be more forgiving than t-hunt(You fucking die if you go outside), just an oversight on their part that could easily be fixed.

Why does it bother you so much that people want defenders to stay inside? They can still peek and still roam, what's the fucking issue? It's a blatant shitter tactic and it shouldn't be defended regardless. If you can't see how it ruins the game then you're a lost cause.

>>159437512
????

>>159416006
Quit if you don't like it
November is triple-a season, maybe titanfall or battlefield 1 is more your speed.

>>159439089

imo it gives Attackers to much "Space" like house for example.

If an operator controls the tree house/rappel spot then can effectively control movement on house second floor.

but thats just me

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This is an old thing but some of you may not know it

>yfw you go to Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\Ubisoft Game Launcher\cache\avatars

>get matched with copper retards
>one of them leaves 15 seconds into the game for no reason
>they don't even have mics
>chill in the lobby for a couple minutes
>join back into the same game
>now a 2v5
>faggot on the other team says "wb ragequitter :D"

Solo queue is a nightmare

>>159440150
Not him but you don't need to run outside to kill somebody on windows and certainly don't need to be outside longer than the timer.

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>>159440538

What the fuck is this shit ubisoft

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>>159440538

>>159440538
>>159440686
>>159440853
I don't have the folder, what is it

>>159441004


So you know how we can upload our own profile pictures to uplay


for some reason no only do we get ours added 3 times but ANY OTHER player we have come in contact with over matches in siege has their profile picture in our files copied 3 times

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>>159441004
Uplay saves the avatars of people you play with locally, 3 times for each different size.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>159439089
It bothers me because you have to be really shit to think there's nothing you can do to counter Defenders going outside. Defenders have limited options for movement as is, forcing them to sit in a killbox while their cover gets blown out just makes Attackers safer, which makes everything more boring.

>>159441297
>It's another episode of 'people complain about things in the game that make it even mildly interesting to play'

I've been seeing this sort of thing since release, and I like to think that it's just swathes of new people that play, get their shit kicked in, complain, get good, and then the new batch of newbies start to play, and the cycle repeats.

>>159436643
>killing two people at that range with a semi auto
my jaw dropped

you did one of the most stupid things you could ever do in this game and got away with it
you didn't get lit up the second they realized you were shooting a semi auto at them from that range

>>159441297
Explain how not allowing defenders to go outside somehow means they can't roam the building then?

Plot twist: They can.

Literally no one said ANYTHING about roamers and peekers, stop being a retard. Defenders also have the advantage from the onset, this isn't debatable. And don't use the killbox excuse anymore, that shit went out the window when BB got nerfed.

Defenders going outside is fucking game breaking, especially on maps like Hereford and Kanal.

>>159440150
>Referencing house at all
There's a reason that map isn't even used in the pro league, it's not balanced at all.

>headshot injure
>what
>wait for somebody to try to pick him up
>shoot that person
>get at least three rounds into their head
>100% health
>neck visibily snapped back

>>159442097
oh it's this fucking retard again
M8. Claymores exist for a reason. If you're getting your shit pushed in by runouts, you and your team did these things wrong:

A) Didn't drone for common runouts or window peeks at round start
B) Didn't watch windows/doors on approach
C) Didn't set key claymores in maps like Hereford and Kanal
D) Didn't have someone covering your ass from outside
E) Didn't chase down the homewreckers doing the peeking with drones and teammates to kill them and then approach objective
F) Got outplayed by some of the most common strategies in the game

And you're eliminating the possibility for advanced displacement for roamers. Take Clubhouse for example. If you had it your way, you wouldn't be able to - as a roamer - use the second floor destructible doors and windows to run from Bedroom to Money Room and flank the opposing team when you're trapped in either. You're quite literally making the game more boring by eliminating options.

And instead of getting good at implementing these things to your play, you whine about them because you want to be able to just be outside the building all safe and cozy. Fuck that. They get to run out on you and it's up to you to punish them. The runouts are already well established and predictable as fuck, it's your fault for losing to them. Your whining amounts to "let me win".

>>159442097

Eh I think 2 seconds is fine

I just dont get why we have to give attackers all these nice positions like sitting on a window for a fucking minute

>>159442602
>motherfuckers gets filtered to be 'homewreckers'
oh, heh, that's new

>>159442097
>Defenders also have the advantage from the onset, this isn't debatable.
stopped reading there, you clearly don't know what you're talking about

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>>159379715
>no valk femdom doujin yet

>>159443719

I can see it now the Recruit is our no named protagonist and he is sent to Rainbow thinking his life will change for the better when he gets to HQ who accidentally goes into the female operator barracks

>>159443861
FUND IT

>>159443861

>Get detected by Valkyrie
>Gets trapped by Frost
>Interrogated by Caveria
>Shocked by Twitch
>Bullied by Ash

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Post Yfw you actually get a Kapkan trap kill

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>>159444820

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>>159444820

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix8mRw993tM

>Castle goes to Japan

>>159434549
>>159434625
>it's a silvers/low golds attempt to lecture a plat III on how the game works episode
>lol roaming is the best tool ever throwable C4 and stepping outside the building to kill

If you played against any opponents who were even somewhat competent you'd realize how ridiculously easy attacking is when you remove the ability to throw c4 and go outside. And the greatest defensive weapon isn't roaming, it's peeking. Honestly, anyone below Plat II should be banned from posting any kind of suggestion about game rebalancing.

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>>159444820

>>159445409
Now I just want that gif of a black guy in a iron man mask walking up and scaring a japanese women

>The red barrier that stops defenders going outside at the start of the round lasts an additional 5-10 seconds into the round
>Valkyrie cameras can be thrown outside during prep phase
Better?

>>159398661
Not really. Sounds like this is your first time posting.

>>159446025
>Greatly reduce the chance attackers have to spot Valk camera throwouts
>Give the attackers coddling baby time when they're supposed to have their game face on on GO.

No you fucking faggot. It's fine as it is. Get good, adapt.

>>159446250
>adapt to the 300 ping arabian prince jager killing 3 retarded teammates with an early game rush outside
>want to find valk cams
pick IQ you cunt

As it stands right now valk cams get spotted/tracked straight off because she has to throw them at the start of the action phase. Theres literally nothign stopping you from moving your drone to watch the arc/throw of the camera and killing it instantly.

>>159442602
>Implying all attackers have claymores
>Implying everyone is always playing tryhard
>Implying you always have an actual team
>Implying solo-queuing isn't a thing
>Implying there's nothing wrong with defenders going outside to attack the attackers despite the game literally built around a building siege

The literal only point you made is the options for a map like Club House running from the money room to the bedroom, so then here's a compromise: Instead of being detected after 3 seconds, you die. You can still run outside and 3 seconds is plenty of time to get from one room to another.

All you're doing is projecting about how I play, which is pathetic. You have no idea how good/bad I am at the game and likely never will. Furthermore, I play on console, it's not fucking like PC. Maybe it works over there for you guys but it's a fucking nightmare here.

Yes, I made the choice to play on console, I don't have the funds for a gaming PC and all my friends are on PS4 anyways.

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>>159445409
why are japs so racist to us black people?

>>159446970
They're racist to everyone including other asians, they barely tolerate white people or only want to be your friend because you're white and that's novel to them.

Japan is like 98.9% native Japanese

>>159445515
>anyone below Plat II should be banned from posting any kind of suggestion about game rebalancing.
Alienate your casual userbase, aka $$$$, great idea, you should apply for a job at Ubisoft, I'm sure they'd love to have you ruin their profit margins.
>He claims he's Plat III
Honestly, anyone who claims to be over Gold II should have to post a mandatory screenshot of their stats.

And again, throwing nitro and going outside isn't what wins you games, you're just a shitter who's mad that people are sick of your shitter tactics.

I bet you cried like a baby when they nerfed BB, huh? You just scream 'flank or use C4'.

>>159446934
>Console: the post
I already know you're bad, I don't have to guess.

>Implying all attackers have claymores
It's called playing as a team. If you're not playing as a team, and can't coordinate with randoms with basic mic usage, it's not a game balance problem. It's a you and randoms on console problem.
>Implying everyone is always playing tryhard
Because playing to win is bad. Of course it is. "Let me just go do stupid shit and get killed, and I totally meant it, but hey on the downlow guys heres what we should change on game balance."
>Implying you always have an actual team
>Implying solo-queuing isn't a thing
It is a thing. And if you can't get basic mic coordination with randoms, you're gonna have to carry. So suck it up and actually become good enough to carry.
>Implying there's nothing wrong with defenders going outside to attack the attackers despite the game literally built around a building siege
There isn't. There's something called "game balance". You don't need to get shot by police or snipers because a) it's a game and game balance is priority and b) lore-wise, multiplayer matches are a simulation between CTU's and not a real life scenario. In a multiplayer game, when you have two opposing sides, you need to be able to punish the actions of the enemies. If they get freebies all over, like rappeling without having to worry about someone running out below them and killing them, then it's pointless gameplay time.

>>159447286
>He thinks Gold II is the baseline for being competent at the game

Oh my god, you're adorable.

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>>159447286
By any chance, are you one of those guys that think Bloodborne/Souls games should look like this?

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>>159447286
>Honestly, anyone who claims to be over Gold II

Bro Gold 2 is the exact same as bronze. The amount of retards in Gold 2 is unbelievable. In fact, the amount of retards in Gold 4 in unbelievable too. IN FACT, the amount of retards in plat 1 is unbelievable

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>Unlock Muzzle Brake for Fuze's PMM
>I can't also use it on Kapkan's PMM
>After paying 40€ for this game

>>159447247
this
japan has one of the most xenophobic cultures in existence.

>>159449548
Can confirm. I am Gold 4 and I consider myself to be pretty bad at the game in comparison to many dudes I've seen. And I'm constantly outplayed/outaimed. I still enjoy the game though, one day I'll get to plat hopefully.

>>159447660
>>159448343
I am retarded: The Post.

>>159449551
dumb frogposter

>>159449870
t.hillary

>>159449548
>>159449598
We should honestly change that. Japan should be multicultural.

>>159450173
They are, they love other cultures and adopt it in their own. A lot of things you'd consider to be Japanese is from other cultures. They just don't want the people who come with it

>>159449789
Care to present any counter arguments, console friend?
You don't have any, so I guess not.

Rebalancing a game with the disinterested casual audience is always a mistake. See: WoW. Everybody loses. You lose because there will always be someone more casual than you down the foodchain that wants something even more basic changed, which you will hate. And guess what? Him, and probably you, will stop playing the game sooner than anybody else, leaving people that actually like the game and want to get good at it in the dust, because you've dumbed down and simplified the game to a point where it's no longer enjoyable whatsoever. Casual audiences will come and go regardless of this specific thing you want changed getting changed.

Attacking without defenders being able to run out or peek you would be trivial. Like shooting fish in a fucking barrel. They're already penalized by being spotted very soon. And you can instantly punish them by having good game sense.

The problem here is that you don't want to acknowledge there are areas of the game you haven't grasped, so you want them changed to accommodate you.

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>>159450173
>We should honestly change that.

We already tried

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>>159449551
Muzzle brakes are inexpensive anyway

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>We are getting no new info on the weekend

>>159451407
we didn't use enough

>havent found a ranked game in two days

euurgh..

>>159450417
I agree with this post
How else are you supposed to take care of the blackbeard camping on the third floor window?
>lets run out and gank him!
>oh, we can't do that anymore
>we'll toss a spare nitro out the window!
>that's right, they made it a place only trap item
>Oh.. then let's take turns shooting him and maybe we'll land enough hits to break both shields before losing all our defenders.
Flank or C4 is still in effect, people! No amount of shield absorption nerfs will change this.

>>159451963
what region

>>159447286
>you're just a shitter
See pic you garbage goldshit.

> throwing nitro and going outside isn't what wins you games
Either you're exceptionally bad at both of those things, so new you weren't here when nitro was the single good way to kill shields, or so low ranked you haven't seen all the ways both of those things can alter the round.

The reality is that you are the ultimate shitter, whining about things people use to kill you because 'it's unfair' when the reality is 'I'm too incompetent to counter it so I want it banned'

>I bet you cried like a baby when they nerfed BB
My top two played attack ops pre and post bb nerf are sledge and Blitz. I only started playing him post patch, when all the shitter bb mains who used him as a crutch deranked and the teams I got matched with solo queueing needed someone to take him.

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>>159453860
>>159447286
Forgot pic.

>people are still complaining that defenders can run outside the building

Is this pre-Black Ice /r6g/?

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>it's an "I have an opinion and if you don't agree with it you're a low rank shitter" extended episode with director commentary

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>>159456284

>inb4 the behind the scenes edition

>>159455791
I'm pretty new to the game but is that really a problem? Seems like the risk involved roaming that far out balances it out