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We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, November 4th:
1798 – Beginning of the Russo-Ottoman siege of Corfu.
1839 – Newport Rising: The last large-scale armed rebellion against authority in mainland Britain.
1852 – Camillo Benso, Count of Cavour becomes the prime minister of Piedmont-Sardinia, which soon expands to become Italy.
1912 – First Balkan War: The First Battle of Çatalca begins - an attempt by Bulgaria to break through the last defensive line before the Turkish capital Constantinople.
1918 – World War I: The Armistice of Villa Giusti between Italy and Austria-Hungary is implemented.
>News
EU4 DD 01/11
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Old Thread >>159281052
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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Bitch was young. Dat pussy was still fresh af
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>mfw cores
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>>159365809
Based.
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>>159365809
based

>>159366035
not based

>>159366046
based

>>159366074
based
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>>159365809
epin
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Hey guys, just a heads up:

I reuploaded V9 of the pack, I already updated the link in my pastebin.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO REINSTALL IT.
The only things I changed are a mistake I made in the catalogue, and a wront entry in the PDF. That's it.

I could have just fixed it for V10 but it was bothering my autism too much.

Also just a warning. I haven't been able to lurk here often, much less make flags. This month will be hell for me so don't expect me to come as often until December. I'm really sorry to those who requested flags and I failed to deliver yet, specially the Madagascar ones. I'll make sure to deliver when I come back.

Until then, enjoy the flags, and thanks for all your help.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/rda335o8hs7sewy/
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>>159365809
Absolutely based.
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>>159365809
The thread is roughly a hundred posts early, fuck you R+I you are the worst thing to happen to /gsg/ in all its history. You have no life and each time you have to make a new thread you make it earlier and earlier to sneak in your funny little quip at the start. Ironic isn't it, that it causes more shitposting than you could ever expect. I bet your only reason for existence is being the janny's lil bitch and figuratively taking it hard and thick right up the anus so hard it gives you piles. Remember he does it for free; but he still has power, you are just a shitposter on the /vg/ containment board who likes to pretend he is helping like a toddler dressed as a policeman on the school fancy dress day. You both would probably have the same IQ to be fair.
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Reminder to stay calm and DEUS VULT
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God damn it. My ruler is 73 years old. This is probably the only shot at an heir that I have.
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>>159366562
It hit image limit, retard.
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>>159367070
>replying to shitposters
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What a huge messy war. And I'm still fighting the Mamluks.

Against better judgement, I've decided to
1. Postpone the Catalan revival;
2. Break alliance with the pope. Yeah, sweet papal mana, I know, but I need the relation slot;
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>>159367196
3. Create Syria as a vassal and feed their cores back;
4. Eventually vassalize that OPM there with Noble rebels. They hate my guts, though, and they're part of the coalition... but their ally Ardalan isn't.
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>>159366590
Catholics should all be deported desu
This is a WHITE country
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>>159330372
>>159362159
Technically you only get cores in Niger if you go for maghrebi+arab union, which I feel is a bit overpowered but anyway.

I'd prefer if the Arab Union was about the classic arabic region/cultures than the arabicized places, especially since the Arab union is already a big blob.

>Also, should you get cores on Niger, Chad, Mauretania, etcetera? I know they're part of the Arab Union in real life but they're really not Arab ethnically.
AFAIK you only get cores in the maghrebi/tuareg cultural area.

>despite Iraq having a core there.
Iraq as a core there only to stop assimilation, maybe Khuzestan will be a part of a separate decision to give a choice on the matter.

>>159362159
You genocided it too hard and people moved away.

>>159363075
No switching primary cultures of formable nations, you stick with what you started with.

>>159364117
They should get an event to be inherited and if refused, they are kicked out of your sphere. They won't petition though since they already rejected it.

>>159364517
That would actually make these countries field less brigades or practically the same amount of.

In any case, it's a bit of a complicated change and it adds some problems, like with cultures in wrong places, % of soldier pops in a state among other things.

Never made my mind on the change so it won't happen any time soon, if it will at all.


Anyway good night anon, good night /gsg/.
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>>159367587
t. """""""""""W"""""""""""ASP
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>>159367429
Wait, the Ottomen aren't in the coalition. So I just need 20 spy network against them.

>>159367587
>I'm a Muslim/Kike/Protestant/Buddhist with a serious hate against Christians
Why don't you zitto you animale?
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How do I get the congo in hpm?
I believe its low infamy, no african holdings, anythign else?
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>>159367429
>>159367196
>blobbing in the balkans
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>>159367943
Need to be in europe, have a port and the right techs.
Requirements change according to a few things, I think the decision shows up after you research nationalism and imperialism.
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Should I let the von Preussens win? I could get willies dynasty in power...
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Here we go lads.
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>>159368171
what techs? The colonization ones?
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>>159365794
Also Jesus Christ someone please update the OP, it still says I'm in V8 when V9 has been out for at least half a month.
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My final achievement for this game. Maybe one more genocide?
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>>159367429
Fine, get out of my way. You took Exploration, go colonize something.

>>159368004
It was literally the first place outside Italy I did it.
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>>159368417
Naval base techs
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>>159368413
>he doesn't just randomly get France in a union
look at him and laugh
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>>159368558
>that disgusting amorphous blob
fucking why
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We've made pan africanism a reality. One more genocide before ending the campaign, and it'll be all good.
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>>159368832
I'll let you have one guess as to why he's blobbing as Italy...
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>>159365794
Please use the proper, Offical Infopic as of November 4th, 2016
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Fine, you too, get out of my way. You can keep this shitty alliance with the Egyptians.

>>159368832
I'll have a defined and beautiful shape. "Soon".
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>>159365179
>image limit
wait hol up a sec

Why the fuck is there a limit on images on an imageboard now?
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>>159368413
and there we have it
I'll give them back all of their cores that aren't Normany and use them to take the low countries in my trade node and to bully Spain and Portugal for their colonies later on.
I won't integrate so things can be interesting if something happens to me ruler and they break free.
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>>159369950
>now
Image limits have been up since _at least_ 2009. Maybe forever.

>>159365179
I've been posting plenty stuff of my Florence campaign, so I guess I'll merge some images to avoid it.
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>>159368737
For some reason I never get PUs naturally. Even over the course of two Austria games I only managed to get myself onthe throne of one German OPM through inheritance.
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>>159369950
>Why the fuck is there a limit on images on an imageboard now?

Point at the newfag and laugh.

There's always been an image limit.
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Final before
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>>159370273
I think it depends on your prestige. Spain always has 90+ prestige because "muh colonies"
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>>159370315
holy shit how did you get 7m in kano?
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>>159370219
>>159370278
t. Berentain Universe sheeple
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>>159370273
You have to basically whore your family out like crazy to really increase the odd of it happening.
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when you're an artisan just making ships in your home shop
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>>159370380
Final after
>>159370420
Kano starts with ridiculous pop right off the bat, it's like four times any other province in africa. growing it was just a matter of getting the baby boom event once, plus a good roll on the westernization pop growth and fast medicine reforms.
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I want to play a game of CK2 where the Picts look upon what the Roman empire has become and decided that it couldnt let its once great enemy be defiled by these savages with no respect. Something like they conquer the Isles back from hat they though were the Romans, look upon the continent and realize something is wrong. Get pissed and go conquer western Rome.

Im not planning on forming Rome with this, but how viable would that be?
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>>159370797
>picts
>considering anything the romans did as good
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>1st pic
Per Hercle... you guys are annoying.

>2nd pic
The battle arena is going well, although we need to rediscover some territory.
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Culture map.

Not pictured bonus: hausa majority himalayas
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>>159370932
They didnt think writing as good until the romans came and then they copied them. Are you really saying they thought everything the Romans did was bad? No, they just hated the invaders. I doubt they didnt respect the people who were able to drive that far into Britton.
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Why did a bunch of AI countries suddenly send me loan offers when I was removing kebab from the Moluccas?
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>>159367835
talex
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Here's Europe looking pretty great. Probably the best borders I've ever gotten out of a game, I'd live in this Europe.
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The madman actually did it!
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This is MemeSupreme.
Ask me for one favor and I will do it 100% guaranteed.
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>>159371669
Leave and never come back
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>>159371285
GET OUT
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>>159371635
>calling it BrandenburgBALL
>>>/reddit/ or 9gag
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>>159371568
Well, it was fun. Probably the last game I'll play for a while, getting a bit burnt out on vicky.
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Is WATKABAOI any good?
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>>159371742
>>159371635
>>159371568
>>159371285
>>159370962
>>159370953
>>159370380
>>159370140
>>159369285
>>159368737
Some of the worst posts I've ever seen.
Negroid and unbased.
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>>159371742
Be grateful that I only took your capital/CoT because I'm too much of a Jew to bother coring worthless provinces, and that I'm saving Manila for another time. :^)
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>>159371734
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>>159371669
Make Zero a mod
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>>159370962
Well make it a pictured bonus then we want to see. It's a map painting simulator after all, so you need to show your paint lad.
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>>159372153
>>159372153
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>>159370513
google "shipwright"
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0-4 Gimmick Poland.
+Play as Krakow and changeowner myself Congress Poland and G-L. Maybe even throw in Full Healthcare in 1836 for maximum memes and Pildsudskying the place.
-Can't expand further than Interwar Polish borders, can take only a sparsely populated african colony to polonize it.

5-9 Gimmick Somalia
+Full healthcare
+Conquer Sweden, genocide and enforce islamic law.
-Can't expand further than modern day Somalia and Sweden, maybe take Ogaden and be done with it.
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I'm fairly new to CK2, so I have a question.
I fabricated a claim on some land, then after I beat their army, I got it. Now it says that I'm gonna lose it, and it's gonna go back to the previous owner. How do I avoid that? Only by plotting against him? Or should I have plotted before that and then attacked his land?
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>>159372072
Gladium meum succa, funge putride.
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What the fuck is even going on here. Free states are a GP btw.
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place your bets on if they will ever get to the last reform
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>>159373418
>no gaeldom
idiot
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>>159373382
Ayyyy
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1.
>Oh look a desert. Nice.
A little later...
>Sand. Sand. TOO MUCH SAND.

2.
Go away Hedjaz, nobody likes you.
>this fucking attrition...

3. My little Syria has grown up so much... it's a pleasure to see.
And I got access to the last Ottoman province.
It's kinda ironic I'll have the Ottomans and France as my vassals. I could do the same with Muscovy (they ARE weak in this playthrough), but I guess I'll pass the snowpeople - boatpeople and sandpeople are already a bother.
(No, really. No way I'm blobbing there.)
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>>159373418
>those irish provinces
t. pedophile
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>>159374347
So if you avoid the first civil war and then loose the second you become Grossconfederatiums?
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What's the better custom idea: Naval Maintenance -20% so you can spam more Light Ships, Global Trade Power +20%, or Merchant +1?
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>>159375431
That civil war in particular was between the USA and the ""Free" States". USA lost it which somehow triggered the confederates taking over.
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>>159375714
>light ships
>maintenance
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>>159375431
Yes, if you dodge the 1st civil war you can become Dixie primary culture, then the Free states may secede and if they win the 2nd war, you become GOB CONFEDICUMS
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>>159374631
France vs. Burgundy front.

1.
>Liege left the coalition!
>Hesse left the coalition!
>Bavaria left the coalition!
In your place, I wouldn't even bother...

2.
>ieu am grown up now, ieu need no ruler!
Guess who's going to be annexed as soon as this war is over. Time to dump some prestige I got from the Mams.

3. Burgundy:
>are we going through this again?
Yes, we are.

4. The peace deal. No Flemish or Dutch land. The Netherlands should pop up "soon"... have fun Burgundy.

5. France:
>jeep jeeep je have more land now!
>now je can be boatpeople and start coloniz...
>mec... vas te faire foutre pêh putain de merde
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3 joins possible.
https://discord.gg/dYH6qbH
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>>159377230
... I guess I'll simply wait until you're fighting each other and then have some fun on your lands.
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>>159367835
>Technically you only get cores in Niger if you go for maghrebi+arab union, which I feel is a bit overpowered but anyway.
I got cores on Niger as an Egyptian formed Arab Union after taking the "establish Pan-Arabism" decision.

>AFAIK you only get cores in the maghrebi/tuareg cultural area.
I didn't cheat for any of the cores, I just used HPM 0.3.6.

>Iraq as a core there only to stop assimilation, maybe Khuzestan will be a part of a separate decision to give a choice on the matter.
Great. Based Hussein even fought a war over that.

>You genocided it too hard and people moved away.
Epic.

>No switching primary cultures of formable nations, you stick with what you started with.
As in it's not possible or you won't do it? A Misri dominated Arab Union doesn't make much sense.

>They should get an event to be inherited and if refused, they are kicked out of your sphere. They won't petition though since they already rejected it.
I don't mean on formation, I mean later on. I sphered them after I formed the AU and so they wouldn't join.

>Anyway good night anon, good night /gsg/.
reeeee cucked again
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>>159366046
How?
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do I need to do an event to get the congo or is the chain initiated by the GPs?
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Who is the true inheritor of Rome in CK2s earliest start? Byantine cant be included they broke off so they dont count.

Im going to argue for wales. When Rome withdrew from Britton, the remaining romans gathers around Wales, only the northern part though, the southern part was still tribes.
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Not pictured: the 5 kids who never knew dad wasn't dad. I've done this with like 3 doges now, how do I get the trait for this focus if not by bedding more than a dozen women?
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>>159379382
RNG
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>>159377573
I feel truly Jewish when I don't join a side and declare after two or three years of war to plunder the corpse of all of Europe
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>>159379382
>Chaste
>11 kids
>Lustful
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>>159379203
>Byantine cant be included they broke off so they dont count
>broke off
>when they were the only ones acknowledged by the Western Romans as equals and other Romans
...???
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>>159376984
Nice, so how do I avoid the american civil war?
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>>159379203
you know they just split to make administering shit easier, right?
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>>159379523
yeah when he was younger he was chaste and so he got that title right after he became doge. then I took seduction focus and he was a changed man. I guess power corrupts really makes me think
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>>159379543
It's got some very hard to avoid requirements like keeping liberals under 40% of the upper house and I think keeping consciousness low
You'd have to look in the event files to really know
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>>159379469
On a second thought, I remembered there's a bonus for joining the winning side. I'll join it later - it's almost time to civilize some boatpeople.
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>>159379637
*administrating
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>>159379203
>two officially recognized emperors, equals as Romans
>"split off"
>somehow not Roman
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>>159379727
>I'll join the c...
Oh no, you won't.
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>>159379537
They left Rome to fall, how can they claim it. It would be like if America let the UK fall in WW2 and we wanted to know who could claim the British Empire. Traitors dont get a say.
>>159379637
>>159379829
They left the West to die. Sure they may have had their own problems but they never came close to retaking the other land.
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Was having a nice Borgia game, started as Sienna and managed to form the Kingdom of Tuscany before Cesare died but now the de Vaolis dynasty of France has passed away and become mine.

Completely killed my roleplay. What do?
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>>159379829
>>two officially recognized emperors
>empire
>ˈɛmpʌJə/Submit
>noun
>1.
>an extensive group of states or countries ruled over by a single monarch, an oligarchy, or a sovereign state.
>"the Roman Empire"
>synonyms: kingdom, realm, domain, territory, province; More
>2.
an extensive sphere of activity controlled by one person or group.
>"the kitchen had once been the school dinner ladies' empire"
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>>159380006
They couldn't do anything about it. They weren't traitors. Look at what Justinian did.
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>>159379698
you just need to ban slavery before the slavery debate fires
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>>159380194
>being an idiot

>>159380006
They tried several times to retake the western territories, but the decay had already set in. Justinian made some good gains, even and especially retaking Italy and Roma itself, but then the plague fucked his shit right up.
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>>159375714
i like having eight merchants
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>>159379698
What if I let myself fall to reactionaries and then get the whole disunited states thing, and then let the the free states go free? Will I still get the dixie event then?
Where in the files is this.
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>>159379543
You can't do it purposefully without just saving and reloading, there's the "the slavery debate" event which usually fires in the first couple months of the game that locks you into the civil war by not allowing you to outlaw slavery. If you save and load to put off getting that event (or you know, just get extremely lucky), you can outlaw slavery in the 40s and prevent the civil war from happening.
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>>159380006
>they left the west to die
That doesn't mean shit, they are literally Romans and they couldn't have done anything to begin with.
>they never came close to retaking the other land.
>who is Justinian and Belisarius the unironic cuckold
>forgetting all the other times they kept trying to reconquer the west but kept falling flat

>>159380194
>two officially recognized Roman Emperors, both equals, both Emperors, both rulers of a Roman, and THE Roman, Empire
>ERE isn't Roman because I'm going to use this definition that has no bearing because the word Emperor didn't even exist back then
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>>159379948
Forming the Empire?

Keep going lad
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t. Justinian
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>>159380385
>two people can be emperor
>come on, it's 416
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>>159380547
>implying i'm him
>implying i think the ERE wasn't legitimate
>implying im not saying the WRE wasn't legitimate
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>>159379948
And my convenient pet dog Austria has decided all by itself to get rid of one possible coalition member. Keep it going!

>>159380570
Yup.
I'll warn you this is on Easy mode, but I've been expanding since Florence to bring back the Etrurian-Roman glory.
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>>159380547
>>159380385
>>159380305
In that case Hitler was the savior of the German people who conquered all of Europe for them.

Oh wait, then he failed horribly and the Germans are now cucked because of him. Results are what matter, Hitler was a traitor to his people just like ERE were to the WRE. Wales on the other hand was abandoned by the Romans, so its perfectly plausible for the WRE people to have a claim to WRE.
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>>159380602
Appeals to definition without any argument to the substance is relying on ideas to deny reality. And therefore stupid.
Historians have good reason to talk about "western" and "eastern" empires because they were de facto different polities, but all the people - and the emperors themselves - considered Rome to still be a single state.

Do you not know about the Tetrarchy? Or their history in the Consuls that gives them cultural precedent?
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t. Theodosius
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>>159380980
Austria, I was almost declaring on the Ottomans... why are you calling me to war against two OPMs?

Fine, fine, just wait until I move my troops.
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>>159381042
>more than one person can occupy the same office at a single time
haha why cant hillary and trump both be president like dude the romans did it haha *takes hit*,
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Why didn't the emperor protect his smile?

RIP the greatest cuck that ever lived and a true roman.
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>>159380602
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consortium_imperii
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Eastern Rome wasn't truly Roman because it was Greek and not Latin.
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>>159381208
Ah, ma vaffanculo you fucking rotten cabbage-eating crucco, WHY ARE YOU BOTHERING ME, IF YOU'RE ALREADY SIEGING THEIR PROVINCES?

I'm still declaring on the Ottomans.
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>>159381523
Western Rome wasn't truly Roman because it was a bunch of half-breed Germans and not Latin.
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>>159380984
So basically you're saying that the Eastern Romans, who were Romans, are not Romans, because they lost successive wars in attempts to reconquer their core territories
And you are claiming that people who lose wars should be disqualified from being counted as one of their countrymen. You are claiming that Ming China isn't Chinese because they got cucked by the Qing, or that the Persians aren't real Persians because they got cucked by muslims.
And you are instead claiming that the Welsh should claim to be a successor state to the Romans, despite sharing less culture in common due to mixing and despite no longer residing in a state that is even nominally Rome, and despite them also never reconquering Rome or somehow saving Rome and being actually abandoned by Rome before its fall.

>>159381523
>western Rome wasn't truly roman because it included germanics, gauls, ibero-celts, north Africans, and a bunch of germans
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>>159381523
Romans were massive Greekaboos to begin with.
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>>159381642
Actually the west was Latin. The fact that Germanic tribes moved in didn't change the administrative language.
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>>159381642
>Germans
>not Gauls
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>>159381359
>An early case of one emperor, remaining "sole sovereign" in charge but designating one junior and successor, was Marcus Aurelius (reigned 161–180 AD), who designated Lucius Verus.
First example was just a sole emperor and an advisor.
>Emperor Diocletian attempted an elaborate system with four emperors (two seniors styled Augustus, each with a junior styled Caesar), called the Tetrarchy. Revolutionary was the notion that each was to be simultaneously in permanent charge of one quarter of the empire, not just sharing in central government. The experiment did not live up to its promise, as succession was not smoothened but contention multiplied, so the quadruple emperorship was abandoned—not the quarters, which remained as administrative and military divisions called praetorian prefecture, as did the lower level, called diocese, and the smaller size (and larger number) of Roman provinces.
Second example fucked the empire forever and caused a permanent divide.
>In 395 the Roman Empire was split for good, but in two halves: West and East, each under a sovereign emperor, in charge of two praetorian prefectures, each with or without a partner in government.
Third example is two sovereign emperors, NOT the same position.
>Both the notion of "partnership" in the form of a senior emperor and several junior co-emperors (usually, but not necessarily, his sons), and Diocletian's titulature, but mainly versed in Greek (e.g. Sebastos for Augustus, a literal translation), became quite common is the Eastern Roman Empire, i.e. Byzantium, which lasted a further millennium after the fall of the Western Empire.
Fourth example is literally just the Emperor consulting with his family.
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>>159381732
Gauls and ibero celts had been mostly assimilated by the time period of the split empire.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_East_and_Latin_West
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>>159381553
Time to declare war against the powerful Ottoman Empire and their ally, the valiant people of Ardalan.

>>159381642
Western Rome was always "truly" Roman.
Being Roman was never about races. Heritage was important, but you would still be considered a Roman as long as you spoke Latin, behaved like a Roman, had Roman culture and paid respect to the Roman gods.

Heck, you'd have an easier time claiming to be Roman if you did all above and were 7/8 Carthaginian or Barbarian than if you were from a Roman family but joined some weird Atheist sect like Christianity [earlier] or if you weren't Christian [later].
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>>159380984
>sheepfucker thinks his """country""" is relevant

ERE was the direct heir of the Roman Empire, this is unquestionable, not only it inherited the institutions of the empire but its people as well, well before WRE went into the trash bin there was a steady immigration from the roman provinces to Constantinople.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_Roman_Empire#Latin-Greek_bilingualism_and_translation
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the super hre in 1500 is still unable to pass a single reform, of the original electors only the germans and theodoro are left. Beyond that Castille is the emperor and colonizing brazil, how will the hre deal with colonization now that their emperor is the main colonizer? Will we get new world hre princes? Will the emperor eventually be a Columbian or Brazilian? The world may never know...
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"Latin was the language of the law courts in the West and of the military throughout the Empire"
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>>159381732
No Im saying that they dont have a claim to Western Rome. They can have Eastern Rome all they want. The welsh were Romans left behind by Roman soldiers to fend for themselves. Also by that logic, Byzantine no longer has a claim on any roman territory in the common start date CK2. Welsh were Western Romans, they have a claim to Western Rome before some Eastern Romans do.
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What's with the rosy cheeks?

Were the byzantines the original weeaboos?
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>>159383047
People who can't blush aren't human.
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Why do you think historians call it Byzantine empire instead of Roman Empire? Maybe because it wasn't Roman.
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>>159382629
Im actually a white Turk who lives in America. Part of that whole Barbary slave trade thing. Or so my fathers mother told him.
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>>159383218
Why do you think historians call it Holy Roman Empire instead of Holy German Empire? Maybe because it wasn't german.
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>>159383042
There was no difference between the Eastern and Western Romans as far as either Roman Empire gave a shit though, and of course they have a claim to Western Rome they're the fucking Romans. Hell Honorius was the brother of Arcadius and their dad was Emperor of both.

>>159383218
They call it Byzantine or Eastern Roman to distinguish it from the Western Roman, which it outlasted by a thousand years and postdated the creation of by about 300 years.
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>>159383394
So Byzantium was Roman in what way?
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>>159383394
"Germany" is just a geographic area, there's no such thing as a German culture
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>>159383568
No, they choose not to call it East Roman. They call it Byzantine instead of East Roman.
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>>159383661
Maybe in that they called themselves Romans, they held a Roman legal system, they used Roman military systems, their ruler was called the Roman Emperor and they have a direct line back to the (united) Romans?

>>159383834
Yeah the problem with that is that they don't.
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>>159383218
You can use both "The Byzantine Empire" and "The Eastern Roman Empire", most people use "Byzantine" when referring to the medieval period of the Empire and ERE when talking about the late antiquity period

If you use the ERE term in any historical study, your peers will accept it just fine though.
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>>159382450
Did you really need to ally yourself with some landlocked nigger?

>>159382657
This changed a lot over time.

You can divide Latin-Greek interaction in roughly three ages:
1. Before Rome conquered Greece, Greek was seen as literary and powerful language, but foreign. Romans resented it, but at the same time they kept translating and adapting the Greek theatre and literature into Latin.
2. After Rome conquered Greece, Greek was seen as part of the Roman patrimony. The Wikipedia article is faithful to this period... and it had some funny results, like Caesar's last words being in Greek.
3. Imperial times. Augustus used anti-Greek movement for populism, saying "we're too Greekfied and we lost our values. Let's go back to simpler, more true to our nature, Roman times". (Fucking hypocrite did that while ruining the single most Roman value ever - the Republic)

>>159382927
Keep on, this is interesting.
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>>159383218
>Why do you think historians call it Byzantine empire instead of Roman Empire? Maybe because it wasn't Roman.
Because it's useful.
It wasn't Roman in culture and language, but the power succession line was still intact - empire-wise, they were Romans and called themselves as such (Basileia ton Rhomaion, "Empire of the Romans").
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>>159383942
Would you therefore argue that the kingdom of France was Frankish?
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Is Yuan dynasty or Qing dynasty Chinese?
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>>159383834
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire

It's literally right there at the top.
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>>159384816
Qing is Manchu, if that's what you mean
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In reality this argument is naught as we can argue semantics forever. What truly defines "Roman" is subject to debate.
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how do i Teutonic Order without getting squashed by Poland+Lithuania?
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Cease to exist, you little cazzo.
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>>159384569
I would be unable to, because the Kingdom of France never presented itself as Frankish nor did the peoples say 'we are franks'.
I can, however, say that the Chinese remained Chinese from Qin all the way to Song, believed themselves to be Chinese, inherited the culture and systems of their predecessors with changes here and there, etc.
The Franks began to think of themselves as something else. The Chinese, and the Romans, never did, while having a direct tie.

>>159385071
Right, except the Eastern Roman Empire were directly lined to the Roman Empire as a whole and equal in stature to the Western Roman Empire (itself NOT any more valid an heir than the Eastern Roman Empire), called themselves the Empire of the Romans, etc.
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>>159385220
Ebin, Meme-gen, ebin.
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>>159385629
Were the Qing Chinese then? They saw themselves as Chinese, but in reality they weren't.
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>>159384816
the yuan dynasty was mongol and ruled by the mongol and manchu bureaucracies
qing dynasty was manchu but the manchu were slowly "sinicized"

neither dynasties were chinese and are seen in chinese history as like a "foreign rule" kind of like the british Raj or austrian rule in hungary
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>>159385690
Hey Cleves, have fun with the coalition. Trust me, it's all about some improving relations, declaring wars as soon as truce is up and being so large nobody dares to attack you.

Oh wait. You're a 4PM INSIDE the Barbarian Clusterfuck. Get wrecked, son.
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>>159385826
The Qing weren't Chinese because they were foreign conquerors, ruled by foreigners who never managed to assimilate either themselves or their people, and used many completely foreign customs introduced by force and to the strong protest of the peoples living there, who believed the government to be not Chinese as fuck.
This wasn't the case in the ERE.
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>>159385826
the rulers of the qing dynasty were not chinese, they were manchu, even though they slowly lost their culture and language over time. even today theyre a seperate ethnicity

the Manchus are considered a part of the larger "chinese" categorization of races BUT are not actually chinese. see:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Races_Under_One_Union
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>>159385167
Restart until Poland doesn't choose Jagiellon.
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>>159385167
ally hungary. 5 time out of 10 poland wont attack you
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Should I namefag through this campaign, so people can filter me if they so desire?

>>159385913
More land for the Empire! Don't worry mate, I'll stop raping you when you're so beaten that your roast beef looks like haggis.
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How do I play eu4? I still don't get it.
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>tfw no ck2 with pops + more complex character interactions like dorf fort
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So hemm

The mod After the end keeps crashing after the launcher, any clues? i have the required updates/dlc
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>>159387723
You do two things:
1. Git _______
2. gud ___ ________

Jokes apart, begin on the easiest difficulty with some very forgiving country as France, England or Castile. I recommend the later two, since France is too easy even if you're a complete newbie.

Have in mind some things:
1. Overextension over 100% is BAD. Avoid it.
2. Prioritize the usage of mana (monarch points), but do use them before they reach the cap.
3. Hover the mouse over features and you'll get tooltips. Those are great to understand more.

More than that, ask about something specific...
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>>159387775
>what is EU Rome
Just make a mod for the second part
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the super hre was just dealt two big blows at the same time, one the emperor castille lost a huge war to the newly formed Great Britain over colonies in Brazil. IT looks to be that the holy roman empire will not intigrate the new world, at least not easily.

Beyond that the Grand Duke of Byzantium was given electorship in the HRE and so far the Castillian hedgemony is here to stay

as for the religious unity of the HRE, its more disunited than it is united despite more princes not being heretics, most of the land is not owned by catholics
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can we have the vicky2 posting back please i hate eu4
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I never asked for this
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No, this is utter shit. Real fuckin shit. I have to wait for almost 20 years for commodore Perry to actually get some chance to westernize as Japan, because before that, no fuckin points for conquest. Just shit.
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>making Norse meme empire in the British Isles
>consolidate power, Sweden manages to reform the religion, proceed to chase Christianity out of Germany and northern France
>completely disregard what is happening near the Mediterranean, just assume the Byzantines get stomped to shit like they usually do 99% of the time
>begin to plot the downfall of Burgundy, notice that their King's religion is an Orthodox heresy
>hover over it, its fucking Catholicism
>scroll out, see this shit

oh boy, I can't wait for IMPERIAL RECLAMATION spam
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>>159380006
>left the west to die
Literally not what happened in 476.

Odoacer took over Italy and made a decree dissolving the western roman empire and swearing nominal allegiance to the Byzantines
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>>159389568
>the AI
>being competent
What heresy is this?
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>>159389692
Catholicism apparently
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>>159388823
the super hre is losing its largest and most influential members, wallachia formed Romania after a quick war with hungary and moldova, leaving the HRE in the process, as did Spain. Funny enough Spain is still the emperor and is doing a mad dash to re add lands to the HRE, unfortunatly for him, portugal is the one they want to crown next. Maybe now Portugal can reclaim dominance over the new world as England and Spain duke it out over brazil and the carribean.
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>>159389161
>some small, irrelevant happening in the Balkans spawning a World War
[irony]TOTALLY UNREALISTIC
Paradox pls fix[/irony]

But yeah, it's something to have in mind when playing HoI4. The whole world will go against you.
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Behold, my Anglo empire.

I fucking hate the new tech system, the end bonuses for Exploration and Expansion are fucking useless, I cant even declare war on any of the native fuckers because they are the same tech level as me.
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>>159389568
>>159389692
The 700 start is super easy for Byzantium, you have more men then the muslims and everyone around you by like 3k. You get free Croatian land and smaller muslims to kill. It is really fucking easy.
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>>159389769
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>>159386801
Nah it's fine, people will just ignore you and the ones who don't weren't going to filter you anyway.
Are you trying to restore Rome or some shit, what is with that blobbing into England as Italy?
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>>159390043
Yeah but they do have to deal with the Iconoclasts and having a civil war over crown authority levels every generation. That usually keeps them in check for a little while so that everyone around them can get bigger and more developed.
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FUCK
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>>159390028
The Ottomans are the world superpower at the moment and have been the entire game.
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>>159390646
>it can no longer be denied that they are the true successors of Rome
Memelords BTFO
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>>159390646
question answered i guess
>>159379203
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What is the best HoI3 mod:

HPP
Black ICE
DWI
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>>159390646
Best believe in Roman Empires anon,
You're in one.
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>>159390646
Prepare to get civilized, heathen.
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>>159390646
>We're back from our holiday in Greece, what did you fuckers do to our empire?!
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>>159390646
>>159390905
Also, better hold out for Great Holy Wars. They're your best bet for fighting back.
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>>159391007
He has sympathy for pagans, hopefully he won't go after me first. Muslims just declared jihad, so hopefully that will slow him down.

I am just hoping that the empire implodes on itself due to infighting and poor decisions
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>>159391508
>1044
Oh yeah you're getting civilized sooner or later
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>>159390646
>tfw the ai never does this in any of my games
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1 - easy war to reconquest my vassal's lands.
2 - I'm surprised you still exist, Theodoro, even bordering the Commonblob. Your time will come... not now, though. Be in peace.
3 - MARX, HELP ME! Damn bourgeoisie, forcing me to take a loan... they'll give the money back, I swear.
4 - war is over. Back to OPM status, Trebizond.
5 - ...fine, Austria, I'll join your stupid league.

>>159390092
Yeah, it's Rome, I begun as Florence.
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I don't think this turned out too badly.

It's a shame SWMH doesn't have a working converter.
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>>159392124
They really need to handle that shit, I'm tired of memeing EU4 custom nations to fix Europe.
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I have a feeling the upcoming league war is going to be me against all of Europe
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>>159391876
Then it seems I must do away with my brother and cousin, the respective kings of France and Germany, so that I can rebuild the core of my empire to counter the Romans. I had planned on not blobbing, but it seems it is the only way to counter the ultrablob currently reaching around the Mediterranean.
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>>159392417
I figure I might as well just use the actual EU4 scenario editor since I've been meaning to try a mega-campaign for years, but I don't know what would be reasonable in terms of adjusting development and assigning ideas.

A conversion that tried for 1:1 income and forcelimit conversion would have serious issues but it seems a shame to maintain prosperity and get extra holdings everywhere only to end up with the same development as vanilla.
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Someone got a death desire, considering they are my only possible rival... time to clean some borders.
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>currently downloading HoI3 to play Black Ice while high on cough syrup on a friday night

how fun are the next few hours going to be
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>>159393632
Enjoy while the DXM rots your brain
Soon you won't be able to play anything but EU4
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>>159393632
>high on cough syrup
tell me more tell me more

Also, >bloat ice
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>>159393764
>>159393835
I have a legit cough that wakes everoyne else the fuck up, so I took some codein cough syrup

nothing crazy, just the regular dosage, but it fucks with me pretty hard (I'm also on some other drugs for other things)
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>>159393764
>Soon you won't be able to play anything but EU4
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Does anybody have a link to podcats LAA for HoI3?
Preferably not in the paradox forums
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>>159393338
I wasn't going to conventionally declare war on you, Hungary. I would just bully you into giving me another border province.

But with the Commonwealth becoming a rival instead of an ally, this changes everything. I can't let them blob into my lands under your possession.
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>>159394187
you don't need it, use this instead (same thing expect you can use it on any 32 bit exe)

http://ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php
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VeF, EVE, or M&T lads?
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>>159394361
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>>159394475
>mayonnaise and retards
I don't get it
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>>159394475
kek
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>>159394475
Honestly, I don't know how I feel about considering it runs so slowly.
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>>159394475
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>>159394475
Fuck I finally got it
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>>159394756
>>159394726
>>159394579
literally how new
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>>159394354
many thanks
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>>159394316
Those sieges go amazingly fast against some Eastern backwards micronation.

I'm afraid of Saxony their ally, though... oh no, they'll sink my boats, throwing potatoes at them!
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Finally! A socialist world superpower, enforcing the free movement of people without borders. A world free of racism and hate
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>>159395013
>conquered nothing of actual worth
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>>159394825
Year and a half to three years
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>>159393905
I hope it's recoverable and that you redover soon, laddo.

Unless you're a grandiquor poster, in which case I hope you die in agony whilst your steamcordplaza "mates" laugh at you.
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>>159395112
I get coughs for about a week after any actual illness because my throat stays sore for whatever genetic freak I am, I'm pretty much fine otherwise
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>>159395174
Good to hear, Enjoy the rest of your life.

Unless you're a grandiquor poster, in which case I hope you die in agony whilst your steamcordplaza "mates" laugh at you.
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>>159394925
Uh. Thanks, I guess?
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>>159390028
i played an England game a few days ago and was able to use oversee's expansion cb for the whole campaign its the only cb I used in india and china
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>>159395513
Some figlio della porca batona cancelled access through Bohemia. But too late.
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>>159395840
A 100% deal. All alliances, some money, war reps, release some small bozo to cut off their size. This will make easier to eventually full convert them, they decided to follow some Luther faggot instead of Christ.
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>>159367835
Dude before you redo the Artois decision, check the Misc file I sent you last time, it was in there already.
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>>159396376
Now, you... AE be damned.
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>>159396527
Just how gross can belgiumget?
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>>159396646
Left: Italian ideas make it so cheap to core...
Right: HAHAHAHAHA cry me a river.
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Is it just me or do either Castile or Portugal choose to snake their way down Africa rather than colonise America a lot more in this patch?
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>>159396729
pretty groß
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>>159396889
You shall be Christian, kebab.
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This is ridiculous. They are all fucking duchies.
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>>159397315
>Wewiskia
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>>159395618
I find Expansion CB still generally works, but the Primitives CB rarely seems to work in the Americas.
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>>159397719
>WE WIS DUKIES AND SHIT
>we wis dukis a' shit
>we wis ki a
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with the surprise removal of spain from the hre permanently and the strange rejoining of the netherlands and the massive amounts of religious upheavel, the protestant league, headed by Austria under Maria von Hapsburg successfully defeated the catholic forces forcing religious peace

this means that now all the orthodox princes can be an option for the Emperor

electorate Byzantium is of course super happy, fighting on the side of the Protestant league for this right specifically. It also helped that Great Britain was also a key player in this enforced peace.

Now we get to see whose doctrine shall occupy that seat once the portuguese monarch dies
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I haven't been here in two months lads, what have I missed?
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>>159398690
as for the new world, a reformed Inti confederation in the south is poised to meet it's competetor of new grenada, if they werent 9 military techs behind.

While the Itzan mesoamericans are fully christianized and westernized but have to deal with the backlash after taking jamaica from the british west indies at a time of crisis, during the league wars.

all others are struggling in the new world, fearful of the new western powers coming their way
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16 July 1945, Maj General Henry H "Hap" Arnold honchos simultaneous nuclear strikes against Berlin and Rome as Anglo servicemen fight street-to-street, ever rearward, in London. Three hundred thousand US Marines, Army Infantry, and support brigades across the ocean hoping to reach Albion in time to establish a defensive line in the north before the entire isle is occupied. Regardless, American advisors to the British armed forces are confident that Ireland can be held against any force after several US carrier fleets were stationed there. In the east progress is very slow but steadily forward.
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>>159398912
Finally a decent fucking game, mashallah.
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>>159390028
>abandoning the continent and your chance to meddle in its affairs
What kind of anglo are you?
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>>159398816
Lazlo died
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>>159397212
Why's Syria pissed at you senpai
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>>159398816
Lazlo fucked up everything
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>>159399297
>>159399364
who the fuck is lazlo
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>not my de jure liege

How the fuck? He only has two castles within my Kingdom. Custom kingdom bug or something?
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>tfw want to get back into KR but cant decide who the fuck to play
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>>159399848
>Want to get back into /gsg/
>Burned out on V2
>EU4 feels kind of bloated now and has always been a meme game in my eyes
>CK2 is absolutely cooked up on bloat
>HoI4 is shit
>HoI3 is unstable on my computer
Please help
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>>159399997
Why not play Kaiserreich son.
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>>159400071
i suck at it
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Bohemia, you're holding unlawful Imperial territory. Return it back to Rome you fucking Luther worshipper.

>>159399363
Because I forced them to be Catholic. Just like the Ottomans.
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>>159399848
Decided to try AoG

>tfw can't fucking trade
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NICKY
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>>159400367
CODY
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Based Erdogan
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>>159399848
Are the event chains for some nations stilled fucked? I want to play a KR game as Japan but last time none of them would fire so nothing would happen and I remember anons saying Russia and a few others could experience the same problem.
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MOSLEY
O
S
L
E
Y
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>>159400357
What should I do familia?
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>>159399476
You've been gone a long time friend, don't poke the badger's nest
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>>159400725
>>159400495
>>159400367
The triumvirate
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>>159400745
Does the last one allow you to annex the legation cities? If so do that.
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its 1885 and I got the Congo as Denmark
Now what the fuck do I do?
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>>159400627
>turning a secular based secure prosperous nation into a saudi tier caliphate
smdhtbvqh
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>>159401003
It lets me go to war, so yeah technically
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>>159400239
More unlawful territory.
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>>159400990
Corduroy is literally the only fascist memer I know NOTHING about.
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>>159398912
>tfw your payback for the British burning Washington over one hundred years ago is saving their asses in London
Truly we are a peace-loving people.

Of course there's no supply in northern England because they haven't actually lost London yet so that's still where their depot is but it doesn't connect to the north, and they're getting rekt in north africa (as is tradition) because there's no supply there either, for the same reason.
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>>159401004
Give them lego to teach them about infastructure and actually make a proper majority rule country in subsaharan Africa.
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>>159401107
Corneliu LITERALLY inspired me and changed my life
>Democracy serves big business. Because of the expensive, competitive character of the multiparty system, democracy requires ample funds. It therefore naturally becomes the servant of the big international Jewish financiers, who enslave her by paying her. In this manner, a nation's fate is placed in the hands of a clique of bankers.

For my Legionaries is a great read
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>>159401223
Why not just inherit it, fuck the nogs
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>>159401153
>wanting payback for suffering damage in a war you declared and were given status quo ante bellum
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>>159401324
Because I want to see if HPM actually plabned for >a successful sub saharan country or id it just ends in a "they fucked everything up" event.
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>>159401040
>>159401003

>take the Legation cities
>A week later the powers of the world say "fuck off m8" and force me to release them

fug
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>>159401107
All I know is he was literally rolling in bitches 24/7, fiery and charismatic like Hitler but tall, dark and handsome. He walked into a room someone busted out a mop if you know what I mean.
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>>159401316
Pfft, Mosley was saying that back in the '20s
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>>159400110
It's not even hard anon, you just have to learn it like any other grand strat. It took me a while to get into it because of the shit UI, but when I did I finally had fun with a grand strat again, for the first time in over a year, for a whole month and a half.
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>>159401048
IRELAND, I'M GOING TO FUCKING KILL YOU AND RAPE YOUR BODY!
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>>159401930
Please stop posting your EU4 blob here.
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>>159401930
>blobbing
>worse yet, posting your blob game
FUCK
OFF
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>>159401930
Can't you just go back to /r/paradoxplaza?
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>>159399997
Have you heard the good word of late EU3 start dates?
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>>159401930

Honestly dude I was going to say something like "Why don't you take a look in this thread and see how many responses your playthrough has been getting", then I saw that your most recent one had three responses and I was prepared to eat my hat, then I saw that they were all flaming you. Hilarious! They're not wrong though, you should stop posting your playthrough here.
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>>159401930
just do something cool with it man keep going but draw up some pretty borders with vassals or something
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>>159401930
The other lads are being pretty harsh, but I'm not enjoying your posts
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>influx of EU4
>all with short, low-effort comments/memes
>all not participating in the thread
is this the shilling that guy was talking about or am I paranoid?
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>>159401930
desu I just mentally zone out everything that isn't victoria 2 so you can do whatever, eu4 have a right to the thread
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>>159402501
What about my gross arabiums posts? They're literally nothing but memes. I tried to do an AAR style writing at the start but I felt it wasn't adding much.
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>>159402602
The v2 Arabia? that was pretty good, do more
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>>159402747
disgusting how much this thread has been taken over by V2 shills

fuck you lazlo
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Is there a reason to build marketplaces in EU4 outside of your trade capital and the centres you are steering in? I'm still trying to properly understand how the trade system works and if I'm getting it right all centres that are not your capital/don't have a merchant steering in them do absolutely nothing for you trade-wise. Is there a reason to want high trade power in them?
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>>159402115
>>159402130
>>159402198
>>159402362
>>159402415
>>159402450
>>159402502
>seven replies to the same post
I believe at least four of them are samefagging. Regardless.

I'm undecided if I should stop posting as >>159402450 and >>159402362 asked politely... or if I just increase it just to piss >>159402130 and >>159402198.
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>>159402747
>was
It's not over yet, laddo, I still need to finish gassing the t*rks and hopefully dismantle Shitaly.

After that I'm going to do a white man burden game and attempt to form a civilised Congo, possibly as a shitty German minor for more memes. Hannoverian Congo?
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>>159402862
disgusting how much this thread has been taken over by discord shitposters

fuck off lazlo
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@159402914
>I'm undecided if I should stop posting as >>159402450 # and >>159402362 # asked politely... or if I just increase it just to piss >>159402130 # and >>159402198 #.
So you're attention whoring and drama fagging. Fucking epic, my dude, you're clearly NOT reddit.
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>there are people right now lazloposting on /gsg/ on a friday night
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBnrVPFxk5o
really makes u think
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At 159403069:
>So you're attention whoring and drama fagging.
No. I'm fine with people politely asking me to do or to stop doing stuff, but if I see crybabies screaming "waah stop posting here! fuck off! fuck off!" against on-topic stuff, I will try my best to piss the little shits off.

This applies to stuff other people post, too. Even if I don't care about the subject.
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>>159401467

Decided to go independent when Japan went nuts and conquered most of Qing, then Japan had to go and fuck up the northern provinces

Sadly this is a pretty boring campaign
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>>159403450
We've established that there isn't popular support for what you are doing, if you choose to defy that, quote, "to piss the little shits off" then you have proven yourself to be immature and superfluous.
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>>159403542

Normally the AOG if it remains with Germany becomes a nationalist puppet-state of Germany sometime in the late 40's or 50's. Because Japan stole that tag though (the green chinese puppet above you), reforming is probably unlikely unless it's into the actual Republic of China (the pale blue colored country). There IS a cut-off though, so if you went full reich with racial policies than you're in for nothing but boredom.

I've played an assload of KR if you have any questions about future playthroughs.
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>>159403542
What even is there to do as the German China company? Seems like a bigger meme than Belgium.
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>>159403654
I've broken off entirely with the Germans when the event came up about war in Asia, didn't feel like getting meme'd on by the Japs
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>>159403654
I played as the UoB and I don't know whether I was just shit or what but I had almost no units. France had 100s of divisions and I had around a dozen.
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REE GERMANS GET THE FUCK OUT OF ROMUVAN LANDS
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>>159403654
>>159403745
Can he go gross DDR-PRC communisimums chiniums or is it literally a no point campaign from here?
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>>159403858
NOTHING CAN STOP THIS TEUTONIC ADVANCE
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>>159403858

>tfw slaughtering all the germans and their knights in the Vistula River
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>>159403580
>We've established
[sarcasm+irony] Nice, do you have some regulating institution here enforcing this thing? [/sarcasm]

Look. Based on two polite posts asking me to stop, I'll do it, at most I'll post the end borders when I reach 1821.

However, have in mind that this is a GS general and EU4 is a GS game. So if I - or anybody else, really - decided to keep on posting about stuff you don't give a shit about, well, that is your problem, cry me a river.
(In the same fashion, I need to suck up the posts about games I don't give a fuck about - because I'm aware the people posting about those games are completely in their right to do so.)

If this is immaturity and/or superfluity, I don't care. But honestly, I think it's far more immature crying "fuck off!" like a little girl about what you dislike instead of, you know, dealing with it.

Now, if you don't mind, I'll go back to my game, since meta-discussion stinks.
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I wanted to play a comfy midwestern game, and I wanted to not be landlocked, so I did.
This simulates the New York State canal network, already in place by 1836, and the early dredging of the St Laurent, allowing the great lakes shipping to be represented, this is more important for economic than military reasons though militarily there could be naval battles between the UK and USA in the lakes.

I'm roleplaying the New American Alliance as "what if the British won 1812" and got their promised neutral Indian state in the great lakes, which is promptly overrun with American settlers anyways.

But then I got to thinking, what should the rest of America look like out west?
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is it shitposting to ask here about the GoT mod for CK2? I've tried briefly years ago when it was barely being tested and now just realized it advanced a whole lot.

Should I try running a game? Anyone had fun with it?
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>>159404203
>EU4 is a GS game
Here's the point of contention.
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>>159404203
This is the depths of autism Hungarianism leads to
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>>159404203
t.lazlo
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>>159404236
It is decent for what it tries to accomplish. Your enjoyment will depend on your interest in the series more than anything else because it's essencialy HiP/Plus in fantasyland.

Rarely does captch requires you to select 16/16 tiles.
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>>159404537
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>>159404314
There are plenty mentions on the /gsg/ OP about the game.
Wikipedia lists it as grand strategy.
It has similar mechanics to other games considered GS, as Victoria 2 and Hearts of Iron III.

So yeah.
>if I tell people enough times EU4 != GS, maybe reality will bend to my wishes!
Sorry.

>>159404341
>Hungarianism
What?

>>159404386
t. turkslayer
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>>159404231
post liquor factories laddo
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>>159404203
>[sarcasm+irony] Nice, do you have some regulating institution here enforcing this thing? [/sarcasm]
First of all I want to address the format of this. Why did you deem it necessary to put the description of the rhetorical device you were using here, despite it being obvious that you were being sarcastic without the brackets? Really exposes you as someone who doesn't frequent here a lot at all.

Secondly, as to the actual contents of your question, you got 7 replies, 6 of them telling you to stop and one of them telling you to radically change your playstyle as you were offering no content. Public consensus and presumably common decency on your part should be the "regulating institution" "enforcing" this.

>However, have in mind that this is a GS general and EU4 is a GS game. So if I - or anybody else, really - decided to keep on posting about stuff you don't give a shit about, well, that is your problem, cry me a river.
If someone was just blobbing mindlessly as Italy in victoria 2 with no apparent reason they'd be told to fuck off. You really need to lose this victim complex.

>(In the same fashion, I need to suck up the posts about games I don't give a fuck about - because I'm aware the people posting about those games are completely in their right to do so.)
Content is content, non content is non content. I don't particularly like EU4 but if you made an interesting scenario that wasn't literally "watch me blob" then I'd be intrigued by it.

>If this is immaturity and/or superfluity, I don't care. But honestly, I think it's far more immature crying "fuck off!" like a little girl about what you dislike instead of, you know, dealing with it.
Literally one of the replies you got were telling you to fuck off. Again, this victim complex isn't endearing.
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>>159365809
based
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>>159404827
>>159404772
>>159404573

Jesus fuck Lazlo what is wrong with you, why do you live like this?
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>>159404084

>I won't scatter your sorrow to the heartless sea. I will always be with you. Plant your roots in me. I won't see you end as ashes. You're all diamonds.
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>>159404772
t. that one eu4 blobber who just got BTFO

>>159404231
Are you making a minimod or just a project for yourself?

I think the midwest would be uncolonized, as in the neutral state would be as far east as the US got.
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>>159402879
Does anyone know an answer to this? pls
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I don't know who the fuck Lazlo is, lad, but stop trying to make him/you an e-celeb.
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>>159405069
It's just another steamcord shitposter trying to become the next bobocrunch, report and ignore
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Holy fuck has GSG gone down the drain
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>>159404930
YOU are lazlo.
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>>159404203
Look just post the fucking game lad. >>159365809 always makes the same post in every thread and gets abuse for it but never stops, because he has strong will power. Truth is no one can dictate what others post as long as it's not breaking the rules so just post the fuckinggames.
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>>159366369
based
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>>159405186
>post your ebin italy eu4 blob
>take over england
>tell everyone how fun eu4 is
>get told to fuck off
>say you're going to post just to piss people off
>get told civilly why that's not a healthy attitude to take
>cry that "gsg has gone down the drain"
You're fucking pathetic.
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>>159405237
this 2bh

"don't let the shitposters discourage you from having fun" has been the #1 unwritten rule of /gsg/ for a long time
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>>159405338
>anyone with a different opinion to me is a shitposter
People told him what they thought and he made a respectable decision to stop posting.
Do you honestly care enough about seeing him blob in England as Italy that you're willing to start an argument over it?
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>>159405069
>>159405098
Lazlo is the madman who's behind basically the last 6 months of shitposting, he doxxed cobrah, destroyed radyugo and paid victor, a freelance polish troll (ask /ksg/ about what he did to their discord) to fuck with the discord group by stealing admin, they just found out today so this pathetic raid is them trying to get back at him by ruining his good name.

Good luck Lazlo!
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>>159403858

REE RUSSIANS

WHY CAN'T WE JUST LIVE IN PEACE. GREAT HOLY WAR /WHEN/!?
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>>159405449
>they conceal their shitposting so they aren't shitposters
steamgroup has been using those tactics to discredit HPM and others for a long fucking time
shitposting like this is nothing new
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>>159405012
Yes. If you are not sterring trade into, out of or collecting in a node then there is no point building trade power within it other than to fuck over every other nation that is.
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>>159370140
>>159368413

what map mods?
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>>159405528
Please tell me how >>159402450 and >>159402362 were shitposts, without referring to various known shitter groups to support your argument.
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>>159405617
Cyanide pill
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>>159405613
beyond typus and flatmap without darker water
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>>159405572
>other than to fuck over every other nation that is
Thanks.
So, if I have a lot of trade power within a node that I don't do anything with, do I just deny those ducats to other empires without getting them myself? That's a good enough reason to build those markets already.
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>>159405649
you can stop the damage control now steam/discord shitposter
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>>159405617
Get a bag of gas. Painless.
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>>159405716
>without referring to various known shitter groups to support your argument.
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>>159404971
idk we'll see what happens, it's super easy to do this with opening up the lakes to shipping though, all you need is like 4 pixels.

Maybe the great plains could be something like this? The Louisiana purchase already happened, but American settlers would be blocked off a bit, so the Metis running from the HBC, the native tribes and a handful of settlers and rogue Montreal traders band together? Maybe make it an unciv? And then Columbia I guess.
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>>159405716
fuck OFF Lazlo
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>>159405804
do you really think that just because a post is made in a serious manner it can't be a steamcord post? feel free to browse through the old threads to see that they've been doing the same thing for ages now

but oh wait you won't because you're one of them and are now trying to hide your embarrassment so you'll just post another greentext attempting to discredit me
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>>159404827
>First of all I want to address the format of this.
Irrelevant, but whatever.

>Why did [...]
>Really exposes you as someone who doesn't frequent here a lot at all.
Or maybe it shows I'm here long enough to know some people won't get sarcasm unless explicitly stated.

>Secondly, as to the actual contents of your question, you got 7 replies [...]
I think four of them were from the same poster. Regardless - one or a hundred answers, it doesn't really matter, people do what they're inclined to. Welcome to 4chan.

>Public consensus
>4chan
Listen, kiddo. I've been stuck on this site for eight or so years. And if there's something that rarely happens on 4chan, regardless of board, it is consensus.

Pic related. Don't make me wake my neighbours up... but thanks for the laughs.

>presumably common decency on your part
I think the same decency should say we shouldn't be metadiscussing.

>>159404827
>If someone was just blobbing mindlessly [...]
There's no victim complex, I'm just calling out bullshit when people try to powerlessly enforce their demands over the others. This happens a lot in 4chan... and it's ineffectual.

More to come...
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>bob ross marathon on twitch
>mfw remembering /gsg/ of old
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>>159404827
Now, about the game being posted: yeah, nah, I've seen plenty people complaining about EU4 non-blobbing posts.

Let's be more general: no matter what you post, people here will complain about what you're posting, one of the fucking reasons people stopped posting about the games to metadiscuss [see our posts] or "t. lazlo" or "let's bash turdlayer again". Analyze what >>159404236 posted and let it sink a bit - he's effectively _asking permission to ask something about a mod for a GS game_.

>Content is content, non content is non content.
And a tautology is a tautology, not argumentation.
What does define "content"?

>Literally one of the replies you got were telling you to fuck off.
Ah, I forgot to mock the "WAAAAHH GO BACK TO LEBBIT!!! I'M GOING TO CRY!!!!" one.

Anyway. Again, I already stopped posting the game. Why are we discussing this shit?
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>>159405237
>>159405338
Nah. If it was due to the shitposters, I'd gladly ignore it, but two people asked it nicely and I'll do it.
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>>159406282
The thread has been comfy and full of peaceful game posting for weeks until you showed up, and this lazlo bullshit with you out of nowhere.

Fuck OFF Lazlo
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>>159405969
>Or maybe it shows I'm here long enough to know some people won't get sarcasm unless explicitly stated.
If they don't get it then THEY get called a retard, the faux pas is on them.

>I think four of them were from the same poster. Regardless - one or a hundred answers, it doesn't really matter, people do what they're inclined to. Welcome to 4chan.
I don't know what led you to believe that. They're all, from a glance, stylistically different. Some are paragraphs, some are short, some are nice, some are rude, no two replies were the same.

>Listen, kiddo. I've been stuck on this site for eight or so years. And if there's something that rarely happens on 4chan, regardless of board, it is consensus.
/gsg/ is homogeneous in it's hatred of casual gaming, blobbing in EU4 is casual gaming. Ergo, consensus.

>I think the same decency should say we shouldn't be metadiscussing.
You're right. You did the right thing and said you'd tone down the updstes on your epic blob and I genuinely respect that. It takes a big guy to realise he's cancer.

>>159406282
>I've seen plenty people complaining about EU4 non-blobbing posts.
Blobbing is intrinsic to EU4. Because if you don't blob then you're too weak to have any power and thus play the game. 95% of EU4 is blobbing.

>What does define "content"?
I'm not equipt to answer that, but we both know taking land in EU4 isn't content.

>Anyway. Again, I already stopped posting the game. Why are we discussing this shit?
FUCK OFF
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>>159401930
Other liquoria babbies have been shitposting, but honestly your italiablob is very entertaining. Thanks for posting :)
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>>159406553
Thanks Victor
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>>159406584
The steamgroup is on your side, laddo.
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>>159406509
Honestly laddo there are so many game systems in based eu4 nowdays that you can do anything you like. Netherlands can be a superpower by owning like 10 provinces just because of trade income.

t. liquoria babbie trying to promote gs 'masterrace' but ultimately failing as liquoria is an unrealistic and shit game
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"Remove Kebab" is the one meme that has single handedly done the most damage to /gsg/ culture, it removed the stigma around being eastern European, and look what happens when we let them mingle with us

Turkslayer <- Serbian
Bobocrunch < - Georgian
Victor <- Polish
Lazlo <- Hungarian
Memesupreme <- East German
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>>159406684
>t. liquoria babbie trying to promote gs 'masterrace' but ultimately failing as liquoria is an unrealistic and shit game
Yes, EU4 with it's mighty Admiral-Convert-culture points is so much better and more realistic. I hate grandiquor now.
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>>159406835
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>>159406684
>>159406835
A game shouldn't be realistic but believable.

That said,

>EU4 with it's mighty Admiral-Convert-culture points
This is done for gameplay reasons. Yeah, if they wanted, Paradox could make culture conversion, naval leaders, mercantilism and diplomatic technology use different resources... but they would get too much in the way. So they divided them into categories: internal government affairs [admin], dealing peacefully with other peoples [diplo], usage of force [military].
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My biggest issue with VII has always been how almost every nation plays the same way while EU has always given nations their own custom feel and strengths/weaknesses. I like both, but I have different gripes about each one.

And then there's Stellaris.
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>>159399489
You have to be his DIRECT de jure liege. Count for a baron, duke for a count.
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>even comes up to demand Seucre from Bolivia
>send them the ultimatum
>they refuse
>nothing happens

What
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>>159406719
Eastern Yuropoors >Western Eurofags
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>>159407757

>AUS managed to beat the syndies

wew
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Where can i get a DLC activator for EU4? The one ive used for the last year doesnt work anymore.
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>>159407813
USA is getting fucked
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>>159407863
This is one of the very few times I've seen AUS not collapse due to awful AI unit management
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>>159406509
>If they don't get it then...
...it's still annoying as fuck

>THEY get called a retard
Except when other people are as dumb as they and don't get it either.

>the faux pas is on them.
>faux pas in an anonymous environment
Seriously?

>I don't know what led you to believe that.
Seven posts in sequence. Almost like if someone was trying to enforce his opinion by samefagging - something that happens a lot here.

Again, I'm not sure, there's no way to know anyway.

>They're all, from a glance [...]
Oh, really? More to come about this.

>It takes a big guy
for you.

>Blobbing is intrinsic to EU4.
Not necessarily, you can get quite powerful by "growing tall", spending monarch points on development and having good trade. Having a 2/2/2 province or two 1/1/1 are, for most purposes, the same.

>I'm not equipt to answer that, but we both know taking land in EU4 isn't content.
I was posting the peace deals because it helped to visualize the reasons I was doing them. For example, cutting Hungary into two pieces while still setting up one of my final borders.

>FUCK OFF
"Force me to".
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>>159406509
>FUCK OFF
are you going to cry?
he wrecked you lazlo
now fuck YOU OFF

The above is just an example on how easy it is to write with a different style to samefag. Different paragraph and text size, different tone... easy as long as you aren't a brain-dead idiot, that is.

And no, I'm not actually telling you to fuck off. This is something only crybabies do.
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>>159409494
t.lazlo
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itt romanians
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>>159409384
>>159409494
magnificent my good sir *tips*
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So THIS... is the power of /gsg/....
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>>159410153
back the fuck off?!?
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>>159410164
>>159410153
tired old shitposting that stopped being funny years ago
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>>159410220
maybe lazloposting is the answer...
makes you think, huh?
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>>159409384
>a 2/2/2 province is essentially the same as two 1/1/1 provinces

Im at work but if you have eu4 available right now can you show the advantages of building tall?
Like can say Krakow beat the PLC with enough development or are they just free food?
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>>159410283
>if you have eu4 available right now
I don't, sadly.

Anyway. Usually, you'd use monarch points to core land and feed vassals; by going tall, you'd use them to develop your land. I think it is a viable strategy, not necessarily as an OPM but maybe with five or so provinces (as the more development you have, the more expensive it gets).
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Donc CECI... est le pouvoir de /gsg/....
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>Rabid dog wanders into my castle's inner-ward
>Naturally I start beating it
>Little girl, some nobody fuck courtier's daughter runs up to me and hits me with a stick(edited)
>distracted so dog bites me
>girl runs off
>ever since, bitter rivals with this little girl
>girl comes of age. marry her off to a fat 70 year old lunatic merchant
revenge is a sweet sweet tonic
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>>159410950
What is this language? French?
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>>159411147
Not him, but yep. Translation: "so THIS... is the power of /gsg/..."

By the ellipsis usage, I'd assume he's a native speaker.
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>>159411147
C'est embarrassant qu'à notre époque des gens sont toujours incapable de distinguer le français parmi d'autre langages.
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>>159411405
il est américain, ne soyez pas si dur sur lui
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>>159410950
>>159411405
>>159411515
are you from the homeland or are you colonial shitters from Québec
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>>159411405
>tfw i dont speak french but still understood most of what you just said
english and french are literally the same tbqh
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>>159411405
>It's embarrassing that at our times the people are constantly unable of setting French and other languages apart
You did it first with Occitan, calling it "just a dialect". Now La Vergonha venirai par vosautres tanben.
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>>159411628
Comment oses-tu m'associer avec ces ânes consanguins et mulâtres de Québécois ?
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blobbing is a sin and an abomination in the eyes of god
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>>159410618
Not that guy, but how am I supposed to get enough mana to support this play style?
After tech and random events you have to be lucky to have some left over for ideas and other actions.
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>>159411812
>>159411761
>>159411734
>>159411628
>>159411515
>>159411405
>>159411339
>>159411147
>>159410950
LES PATOIS EST L'EMBARESSMENT POUR LA LANGUE FRANÇAIS
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>>159411761
Justement, l'Occitan n'était pas un dialecte, c'est pour cette raison qu'il était nécessaire que ces balbutiement ne cessent.
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>>159411956
Not to mention ideas.

You really need lvl3 advisers and make a ton of money somehow.
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>>159411973
anglo butthurt he speaks a creole language
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Are we being raided
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>>159412058
Ki jan bay gabèl ou kritike ak lang mwen an? Li se yon dous ak yon lirisism kokenn.
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>>159412039
>>159411956
By trade - being on an end node (English Channel, Genoa, Venice), spamming trade-related buildings and with a massive fleet.
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>>159412058
>anglo butthurt he speaks a creole language
Following this [shitty] reasoning, French is a creole dialect made of broken Italian filled with barbarisms. (and inability to pronounce a proper rolled R)
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>>159412130
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hastings
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Is it still be able to bully Asian nations with institution mechanic instead of westernization?
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>>159412457
>Is it still be able to
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>>159412497
well answer moi??
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>>159412130

by /int/ apparently

>>159411957
AYO HOL UP HOL UP
>builds a fort
YOU FINNA TELL ME LIKE
>explores the mississippi river
YOU TRYNA BE SAYIN
>snorts line of beaver fur off a banister
THAT WE WUZ SOME KINDA
>emotionally abused and neglected by homeland
NOW YOU AIN'T BE SHITTIN ME
>intermarries with native population
LIKE WE
>loses to the british
WUZ
>sells the midwest
SOME
>trades internal organs for mink pelts
KINDA
>invents chicken seasoning
ACADIANS OR SOME SHIT?
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Sugestions for going tall in EU4.

Teutons, Holland, Brandenburg, Milan, Portugal, Brittany

Did I miss any other good one?
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>>159412630
Venice, Genoa.
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Remove frog
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>>159412630
Ireland
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>>159412630
>Teutons

How are you going to survive against Poland?
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Can someone tl;dr me what those French were saying
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>>159412767
Va te faire mettre, boche de mes couilles.
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Okay, so how do I prevent from conquered land going being lost after my death? I fabricated a claim on some land, then after I beat their army, I got it. Now it says that I'm gonna lose it, and it's gonna go back to the previous owner. How do I avoid that? Only by plotting against him? Or should I have plotted before that and then attacked his land? I'm playing as a count in scandinavia.
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>>159412789
shitposting about language
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>>159412630
austria, just annex salzburg and you're good to go
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>>159413049
>Exactly, Occitan isn't a dialect, for this reason we need but a reason we need those "stuttering"[? I didn't get it right] don't stop.
"Balbutiment" indeed means stuttering but also means splutter, also, "ne" is used but i doesnt provoke a negation, so with correction its:
>Exactly, Occitan isn't a dialect, for this reason we need but a reason we need those spluttering to stop.
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>>159413080
>he doesn't know AT LEAST ONE irrelevant slavic language to shitpost in
smejim se ti v obraz peder
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>>159412787
Read this>>159386186
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>>159413171
>he is a slav
döda dig själv
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>>159413049
>>159413161
didnt see the mess that was the middle of the sentence, final correction:
>Exactly, Occitan isn't a dialect, for this reason it was necessary that those spluttering stopped.
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I love this thread and I wish /vg/ was more like it. Going to other generals suck ass.
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>>159413313
I was fooling you, i dont know shit about finnish.
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>>159413161
Ah, now I got it. Thanks.
(DESU I had to google "splutter" too, first time I see this English word.)

Answering to your post: Occitan is a language with fallen prestige. It's kinda ironic French - the language that mostly replaced Occitan - is following the same path.

>>159413080
Literally me.
>è lui o non è lui?
>va' en mona, fenocchio!
>mec... pêh... va te faire enculer...
>du bist eine große Scheiße brudi uesz
>una vela... pendejo pendejito hijo de la coña
>>>/huj/

Hard mode: my native language is NOT among those.
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>>159413452
>thinking monkeys such as yourself were ever rare here
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>>159413424
i noticed

t.fennoswede.
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>>159413571
Común quizás en Suiza, pero aquí en el Nuevo Mundo? Ich glaube, dass wir doch selten sind uesz.
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Reminder to report and ignore non-english posts.
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>>159413917
>R&I is American
Who would have thought
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>>159413853
*uezs

>>159413917
Thou, sire, art an idiot. :)
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Im getting my Emperor on today. Whats the best way to keep Italy in the empire and is it worth it? I mean, I would have to declare war on the pope and take rome and that doesnt seem like a good idea.

Also, will the AI join the empire by themselves? Venice and Burgundy are friendly to me but war with Venice seems inevitable.


Lastly, whats the best way to do PUs? Ive already secured royal marriages and alliances with Brandenburg, Bohemia and Hungary, do I just keep my prestige high and hope for the best?
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>>159414032
Do you plan to reform the HRE? Then yes, keep Italy.
Venice: who cares if they're friendly, you're more powerful. Annex them and make the island part of the HRE.
Burgundy: try to trigger the Burgundian Inheritance, you'll get the land for yourself if you're the Emperor.
AI joining: I don't think so.
PUs: pretty much. You can force some unions too by claiming their thrones if they have heirs with weak claim or no heir. Remember you'll get a hit to imperial authority if your electors aren't independent.
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>>159414032
For uniting the HRE, restart until Burgundy and Bohemia do not rival you. Royal marriage both. Claim bohemia's throne, then enforce PU. Declare excommunication war on Provence, liberate lorraine and bar, then take on venice. If France and Burgundy won't fight each other, improve relations with burg and then declare war on one of their allies to get them into a war and force inheritance. After you get the inheritance, wait for the event that forces you to return cores to HRE members, then release holland, flanders, brabant, luxembourg, hainaut, nevers and burgundy as HRE OPMs. When centers of reformation spawn, you can destroy them by ensuring they are in the capital of a protestant prince when you force-convert them.
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>>159414032
You get missions to form PUs over Hungary and Bohemia after 1500 if Bohemia has less than 140 development and if Hungary has less than 200.
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What happens now?

Do I get the power to islamically excommunicate islamic rulers? It's their "pope", right?
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>>159414032
I thought females couldnt be emperor, oh I see.

>>159414345
>>159414396
>>159414709
I will destroy italys anus.
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Alright, so can anyone tell me what to epect when playing as Tokugawa shogunate? Whant "marellous" adventures? Isolationism I've seen, Commodore Perry I've seen, what's next, civil war? How do I reassemble the empire, by the way?
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>>159414764
Oh well, nothing happened. At least I get to finally kick them out of my Alexandrian node
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>>159415078
>Hapsburgers getting a female elected emperor in 1448
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>>159415078
Anon, your Maria Theresia is male.
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>>159415078
>tfw no Cute Trap Holy Roman Emperor
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>>159415507
>tfw recorded history is wrong
>tfw traps were extremely common before the industrial age
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Right, the anon posting the Arab Union AAR has inspired me to play V2 for the first time in months. Last time I tried Arab Union I got fucked by the GPs during the Oriental Crisis. I managed to keep France out by increasing relations but didn't have enough to deal with Britain, Prussia and Spain. Is it winnable as Egypt?
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>>159415078
That's the spirit.

>Maria Theresia
>male
Weird, both names are feminine for me...
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>>159391876
>civilized sooner
He can pull a good 300k troops out, why would he do that? Needs to save up a good 100k, dont know where he put the money but he needs that to pull out at least 3 full castles on his capital and upgrade the rest of his provinces. Usually I get loaded from raiding but he doesnt even have 5k.
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>>159416952
Raze their provinces so they drop in development
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>>159416952
What kind of country is Alexandria? What does it correspond with in M&T?
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>>159417331
It's a custom nation
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>>159417281
Already drained their cash and trading power, went for pic related instead. Gonna vassalize them next war when the AE drops

>>159417331
Custom RP nation. The RP goals are to not expand a single province beyond the trade node (excl vassals) and to fully focus on trade and provincial development. Must also transition to a merchant republic at some point, a Christian one if possible for bonus points. It's a comfy game
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>>159416952
if you loot the provinces it should decrease the trade power , wich factors in province warscore cost.
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>>159415662
please
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>>159417482
>Custom Nation
>M&T

breaking events pro
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>>159417482
get treaty ports
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>>159416297
"her" dick is feminine too
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Best first military idea to go for as aragon? I plan on KuKing the t*rk
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>>159417912
Naval
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>>159417912
quality
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>>159417984
I meant something to fight their armies with
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Guys I was just playing one of these games when a vision of Johan appeared before me in the screen telling me to buy DLC. Is this normal?
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>>159417520
>>159415662
please
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>>159418049
Just catapult the ships
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>work hard to get independence from your duke
>king hands you to another one
How am I supposed to expand!
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>>159417912
Offensive
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>>159418108
Gain independence from your King, or just fuck up everyone under the same Duke.
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>>159418072
whenever i see this fat swede i feel like vomiting
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>>159418260
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>>159418076
>>159417520
>>159415662
anyone?
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>>159418319
>having more then 1 of the same johan saved
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>>159366369

Based Circassia and Lebanon flag къoш
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>>159418593
>he isn't an esoteric johanist
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ok what the fuck just happend
i was playing brandenburg and waiting for the empor to die because i had saxony and cologne in the bag voting for me
then all of a sudden while im not looking i automaticly annexed saxony
all we had was an alliance and a royal marriage
and then i lost the election because the emperor died 6 months later
i didnt know random annexation was a thing, how did this happen?
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We're getting there lads
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>>159418934
How do you best play tall in Mayo and Texas?

Just spam -dev cost everywhere and try to stay at peace?
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>>159418934
City of the World's Desire btfo
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>>159419003
pretty much

spam every single possible thing that reduces dev cost
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in ck2 how the fuck i expand my holdings, for example from 4 to 5 etc
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>>159419113
It needs to be the crown focus and be level 3 prosperity, then its a random event.
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>>159419169
fuck i knew it, had crown focus elsewere
thanks lad
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>>159419207
Be sure to have a lot in the bank, it costs a shit ton.
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>>159418934
how did you install this mod? i downloaded it using Steam Workshop Downloader, enabled in launcher and nothing about my game changed at all.
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>>159419298
It's in the archive lad, under EU4 folder
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>>159418847
post a pic of it so i can see if i can contribute any missing johans
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Any tips for Austria HPM? How do I stop Prussia from suicide wars every 5-10years? Does staying as Austria(not confedaracy/austro-hungary) lose much of bonuses/flavour?
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>>159419493
You are a GP, you shouldn't need any help.

Become more powerful than them.

Not really.
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>>159419559
I am more powerful than them, but they still keep always attacking after truce and I don't want to dismantle/take land from them as then France and Russia will have free reign and I don't really want to deal with them myself
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>>159419637
Let them form germany then.
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>>159419085
Is there anywhere to see exactly what the various development boosting policies do?

Since SWMH can't convert manually I was thinking of using an overhaul mod to get to V2 - mostly because I remember vanilla EU4 being pretty bad - so I'm trying to find info on what they all do.
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Planning on becoming a bit of a colonial power

What idea groups?

I've passed one reform and the reformation just started in Bremen
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>>159419771
They pretty much just decrease the dev cost and some of them allow for development increasing events to pop up

Enable the dev events policy to see them
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Guys, playing Japan in HPM, should I give no fuck about infamy and go full banzai to expel the whaito piggus from Asia?
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>>159419829
Goals

Sorry if you've seen this a lot
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>>159419851
Pretty sure that even if you can defeat the navies and armies of GP's coming for you, you will go bankrupt due to meme penalties.
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We did it lads

Probably gonna get fucked hard for doing it, but well worth it - there's zero need to declare war for at least another 50 years
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>>159419851
Infamy will make everyone that's not Japanese absolutely loathe you, so if you're comfortable wading through millions of Chinese rebels or just putting every non-Japanese to the sword it's fine.
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>>159419882
What are the European borders of Gross Germaniums supposed to be?
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I got a feeling this is going to bite me in the ass somehow
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>>159419969
>>159420053
Damn, guess I'll have to content with just Indonesia and just forget about Straya and NZ.
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>>159419882
>>159420405
Here's the equivalent 2016 map for comparison
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>>159420434
It's not, you got the good possession.

Worst that can happen is you lose it again.
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forgot to cap event where I just lost a shit ton of prestige along with something about saving my soul
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I saw someone saying "Keeping soldiers on Cairo for research" the other day and what's that about?
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>>159369461
>not using the actual official infopic
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>>159419829
what mod?
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>>159420786
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=631545981
>>
0 BlackICE Germany
1-3 HPP Germany
4-6 HPP Italy
7-9 HPP Nippon
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>>159420915
>Typus Orbis Terrarum makes the logical and sensible decision of removing the central african shit from the game
>mod adds it right back
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>>159421118
What are good Naval Compositions in HPP for HoI3?
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Jesus is taking me places
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>>159420915
>>159421148
Yeah I'ma pass, dn't think my little 2.4ghz i5 can handle.
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>>159419882
Still need input on ideas

I'll probably take Exploration as my 3rd group
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>>159421647
Religious, Exploration, Aristocratic

in that order. you MUST defeat the Reformation
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>>159421647
Take religious ideas, and take random provinces across the HRE so you border as many princes as possible. Also take a province in pomerania so you can fabricate on denmark in case they get a centre. Destroy the reformation by killing centres as they appear. If you want to have religious leagues and get the enforce religious unity thing, leave one of your electors protestant, but no one else.
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>>159421647
What mod are you using?
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>>159421209
same as vanilla really. An exception i can think of is that CAGS are not really effective against ships until 1940 and beyond.
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>>159422353
>>159420915


>>159422102
>>159422284
I took religious

I don't want to blob to much, but yeah, both Bohemia and Denmark got CoRs

I gave myself a restore PU cb on Bohemia because they had my dynasty and converted, for an effort to restore a Catholic Hapsburg to the Bohemian throne
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>>159422498
>cheating
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>>159420487
Where's that from?
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>>159422721
>filename
>reverse image search
houseofhesse.deviantart.com/art/Austrian-United-Greater-Germany-1916-548610501
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>>159422771
>le Austria taking Prussias place

Dropped.
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>>159419325
i noticed this a bit late but thanks i'll see if that one works better, thanks again anon
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>>159422864
butthurt protestant
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game froze for a bit and came back with this

has anyone else encountered this bug? its a very swedish way of breaking the game
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What is fun about Victoria 2?

I try playing it for a while but it doesn't feel fun to me.
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>>159424013

>fun

Wrong genre anon.
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>tfw spamming development ideas, policies and events boosts you to a GP

The country grows by about 20 development per year doing that. I'm starting to love this mod as it actually finally managed to promote peace instead of mindless bl*bbling
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>>159424013
its one of those games where you wait for fucking ever, then something cool happens but the AI fucks it up and you gotta wait forever again.
sorta like HOI3 but without everything that makes HOI3 fun.
If you want actual fun, play something like CK2 or EU4
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M&T from the archive crashes while loading, anyone had a similiar issue?
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>>159424265
nope

t. >>159424223
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Pretty happy with my borders, content just to sit back and dev spam to Empire.
Also I caught a spider
What do I do?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11578381
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>>159424359
what kind of spider?
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>>159424359
kill all anglos
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>>159424420
Huntsman
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>>159424469
Good on ya
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>>159424265
more precisely it crashes on creating flags
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>>159420556
Now this is more like it!
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>>159424265
you put it in the wrong mod folder

put it in the OTHER mod folder
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>>159365794
>>159369461
I'll update the info and change the layout a little bit, then if other people like it, well, we got a better OP.
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>>159424359
Become a Theocracy and get rid of the disgusting Protestant heretics on East Ireland.
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>>159423971
Doesn't happen in the latest patch anymore, according to hotfix
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>>159425279
Show us the religious map of the Irish Islands. I want to see if there's still people there worshipping Luther and Calvin instead of Jesus.
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>>159425430
Just these disgusting fucks. Religious zeal is one hell of a drug. I've got them under strict watch though.
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>>159425531
Noice. Now declare war against non-Christian small countries to force their conversion.
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Found a new goal lads

Vassalize literally everything around me and enact this
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>>159425531
>not conquering centers of reformation
ONE FUCKING JOB
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>>159369461
Better version
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>>159425641
>>159425673
East East Ireland can do whatever it wants. We don't want anything to do with *those* people.

It's just boring blobbing. This an old campaign I finished my goals in and then put aside.
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Is there any way to make 867 start in CK2 with any mods or any amount of characterswitching produce remotely reasonable results?
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Literally whatever I do I can't get MEIOU to work. It always crashes at processing flags. I have cleared the cache multiple times.
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>>159425797
>conquering east ireland as the true kangz of breton
>boring
nah
is the kiel canal worth it?

>>159425991
reasonable in what way?
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>>159425794
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>>159426060
eastern europe christcucked and karlings devolving into irrelevancy
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>playing multiplayer CK2 with friends
>they only want to do the 867 start because "we can play longer"
HOLY SHIT THERE IS LITERALLY NO CIVILIZATION I DONT WANT TO PLAY THROUGH THAT GARBAGE
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>>159426256
What was unreasonable was either of those happening.
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>>159426329
Thats what you get for having friends.
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>>159426329
your friends sound like turboplebs
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>>159426329
Don't worry, we can play at the best start
Charlameme was civilized, right?
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>>159426256
thats literally what happened IRL though
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>>159427010
ur dumb
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>>159427101
i tried deleting my post after a realized this :(
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>>159427204
>tfw to intelligent to belittle you for stupidity
>>
what should I call my vassal state that consists of provence, savoy, and piedmont?
I'm leaning towards just calling the whole thing Savoy, but I don't know if Provence is more prominent.
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>>159427462
Savoy-Provence-Piedmont
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>>159365794
>If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups
But what if I post about an unofficial discord group?
Really makes one ponder.
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>>159427462
Show exact borders.
This is important.
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>>159427610
grrrrr, you trolled me bro
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i dont get this
france is with allies
im with the axis we all start a war with soviets and get non aggresion pacts and stuff
but i can see france as a faction partner
>>
Companymod AAR WHEN
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Why can't I ask other countries in M&T to support my independence? How am I supposed to win a independence war against my overlord with no help, not even from other vassals with high liberty desire?
>>
>improving EU4 colonization
1. Remove colonial regions.
2. Colonized provinces on the New World (Americas, Australia) should remain at the colonizer's hands as "direct-control colonies" (DCCs) until assigned to a colonial nation.
3. Colonial nations can be created from five or more contiguous DCCs. Sharing a sea tile counts as contiguous.
4. DCCs cost maintenance. After the 5th one, they're really expensive.
5. DCCs have a chance of changing culture based on the bordering provinces and the prestige of the colonizer. For example, a Scottish DCC surrounded by English provinces will eventually shift to English culture if England has considerably more prestige than Scotland. This will NOT happen with provinces from CNs.
6. DCCs have a chance to "slip" peacefully to a neighbouring CN if they share the same culture. It depends on how many provinces of the CN border the DCC, luck and prestige.

>AI routine
The AI will try to create CNs when possible. The default name will be based on a lookup table.
When choosing where to colonize, the AI will give the possible colonies the following weight:
>+1000 it borders my DCC
>-300 it would border a CN I do not own
>+100 I have a historical bias to colonize here
>+X development

More about the historical bias...
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>>159427707
plus the three red ones too eventually
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Why is CK2 such a shitty game?
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>>159428870
>>
@159428870
why are you such a shitposter?
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First game ever, playing Castille, is it better to rush for a colonial nation or spread out to grab important provinces?
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>>159428869
Release Provence as a vassal and give them the Peidmontese lands
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>>159428869
Transalpine [title]
Narbonensian [title]
[title] of Narbo
Poeninan [title]
Cottian [title]
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>need about 10 divisions to conquer Britain main land
>need 32 divisions and two nukes to conquer gibraltar AFTER london has fallen
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>>159428842
>historical bias
This is a way to direct the AI in a non-stupid way to make something resembling the real world. It'll try to colonize provinces on certain areas before taking development into consideration.

Castile/Spain: Panama, Yucatan, Cajamarca...
Portugal: Bahia, Pernambuco, Rio de Janiero...
England/UK: Chesapeake, Newfoundland, Great Woods...
Netherlands, France, Scandinavians: whatever it would be sensible, I'm not looking this shit up.
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>>159429823
[...] and if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, [...]
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>>159427462
Alpina.
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>>159429823
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Dont worry Italy, the Habsburgs are here.


I do wish there was a decision to form Austria-Hungary, even just for aesthetic purposes, like have it like GB or spain where you can do it diplomatically if you are in a union.
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>>159427462
>>159428869
Dauphiné
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>>159428116
Next week
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>Ming don't explode properly

This is bad. Will they explode again?
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So I was playing HoI4 for the first time after having some experience with HoI2. I started the game as Nicaragua and somehow Spain hasn't begun its civil war.
Is this a bug or I have somehow managed to avoid that war from another country?
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>>159432090
depends do you have historical on?
sometimes it takes longer than usual in non historical
but it does happen sometimes
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>>159432238
I do have historical on, that's why it was bothering me.
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>>159432380
oh then yea
idk man sometimes it happens must be a bug
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Rollan what to play in HPM Vicky, hardcore blobbing eventually into infamy wars mode.

1.Sweden-> Scandinavia. Try to get as much german and russian clay instead of colonies.
2.France Napoleon mode. Merclessly dismantle and puppet every european GP especially the eternal anglo and the kraut.
3.Carlist Spain. Must remain an absolute monarchy, try to restore control to historic spanish clay in south america and italy.
4. Grossßhabsburgium. Much of the same except with Austria. No political reforms whatsoever, the Kaiser reigns forever.
5.CSA. Try to go fascist and achieve a total continental manifest destiny. Maybe some africa for a steady supply of niggers. Also keep slavin'
6. Neuchatel. I like the flag. I like the idea of some german nobles in a tiny swiss chateu plotting world domination.
7.Soviet Union. Put up with the factory micro, we world revolution now comrades.
8.South Africa. Lose South from the name.
9.El Salvarod. VIVA EL PRESIDENTE
0.Whatever /gsg/ recommends.
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>>159433329
Have you actually considered the UK tho? If you just want to blob and paint the world you have the resources to be fighting 3-4 wars at once, and the micro is actually nice you just pause for ten minutes every once in a while and get everything done at once.

It's the only country that can reasonably be active on every continent.
>>
Second time I crash on this cursed fucking year of 1919

Is the game hardcoded to not accept anything but germanyblobs?
>>
>M.EIOU
>M.&T
>l.iquor
>l.azlo
>r.eddit
what else should i filter?
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>>159431804
Only sometimes
I think it's about 10-20% of the time now.
That, or you force them to collapse.
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>>159431804
They will explode if their stability is below 0, their legitimacy below 60 or they have less than 20 provinces.
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>>159433786
y.ourself
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>>159430321
How is babby's first WC treating you?
>>
In CK2, how do I play as a Christian but still keep my vassals from switching to agnatic-cognatic every other minute? I've been having a hard time finding a way to make it work and I'll really aprpeciate some tips when it comes to this.

My goal here is to not have counties and duchies pass between my vassal kings.
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>>159434059
'im anonymous i can't filter myself f.am
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>>159433786
willy
waggle
grandiquor
steamgroup
discord
nicky
yohan
sjw
cuck
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>>159433786
might as well leave this general at this point
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ETERNAL REMINDER
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>>159433329
rolling
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>>159433786
may as well filter the thread lad
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>>159434497
t. Discord sympathizer

Lazlo fuck OFF
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>>159434497
quit trying to force your lazlo memes you mongolian fuck
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Is there a newer version of this?
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>>159430986
Shit so what do I do now? if I take them either as a vassal or annex them I get AE on a bunch of people. Can I feed them to Hungary for less AE?
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>steamgruppe dies
>no modder controversies
>discord barely does anything
>shitposting is at an all time high

really makes you think
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liquor
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>>159435082
The discord is literally dead you mongoloid.
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>>159434916
I still mantain that old /gsg/ died when Mayaka stopped posting.
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>>159433329
post aar
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>>159435302
in what game
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>>159434974
Ive realized its just all of italy.

>He-here we go
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This was somewhat comfy for the first 50 years, but now that Russia still shows no signs of weakening I'm starting to question my choices.
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>>159435687
Italy has been secured! Now to take on the Burgundy blob.
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Never forget
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>>159435321
I dunno, I think that the spirit of it really hasn't died yet, although it has become significantly worse.

Come to think of it, /gsg/ really only started dying when the gruppe stopped doing stuff
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>>159435917
>>159372107
really makes you think huh
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>>159435815
Show liquor factories
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>>159415662
It's winnable, just gotta get lucky. Might be easier to just kill the Turk armies and run from the western ones, surrender to them, then get cores on the Levant after forming Arab Union desu.
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here we go again
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>>159436210
As broken as ever.
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>>159435880
Time to trigger that sweet Burgundian inheritance, mate.
If it doesn't, but you're sure you'll war against them again before 1500: grab the French provinces.

>>159433786
Here's a list. I've actually hid some /gsg/-relevant filters because, while they are about stuff I don't care about, they aren't shitpost or off-topic.
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>>159436416
probably the most reddit filter list i've ever seen tbqh
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>>159436387
But what is he the sultan of?
>>
>>159436387
>vanilla
>>
>>159436518
mauretania

>>159436539
jokes on you, it's not 100% vanilla, i got a mod adding siberian tribes
>>
>>159436501
Quick question: when was Reddit created again?
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>>159436394
>he fell for the steel meme
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>>159436692
some time after 4ch

how is this relevant to your redditor filter list (filter lists as a whole are a pretty reddit concept)
>>
>>159433596

Did that already. Took like 5 years to realize the game isnt called Victoria for nothing and by the 1860s you can start the infamy wars and take on the rest of the world all yourself. I occupied the entirety of 5 other GPs, every last province, sunk their navies to the last ship and destroyed their armies to the last man and realized I have to cheat and debug alwaysdiplo/alwaysaddwargoal if I want to keep the ball rolling instead of just starting at the screen doing nothing.

>>159435587

I'm a shit writer and got annexed after the second conquest wargoal got discovered right away.
>>
Crusader Kings 2, HIP mod, question

I have a sickly daughter, she is a genius. How do I save her?

Cheats to, I don't mind them.
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>>159437381
get a court physician

fuck you for cheating, scum
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>>159437435
Have one, he tried to heal her, he failed.
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>>159437559
then its up to god to decide her fate now
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Hello friends, come meet with me please
https://discord.gg/mCxya
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>>159437830
FFS, I just want to marry her to my nephew!!

Are there no cheats?
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>>159433329
rerollan
>>
>>159438369
President for life you are, it seems.
>>
>>159438369
wew

>>159433329
rollin
>>
>>159438012
Command: remove_trait 144 <Character ID>
Save before trying.

Worst hypothesis, open the save file on Pluma/GEdit/Notepad++ (NOT Windows' notepad) and check if you can find something about her sickness. I don't think you should cheat, though - this kind of shit is part of the game.

>>159437038
>how is this relevant
Because I'm almost sure I already browser 4chan since well before reddit was created.

>redditor filter list
Why do you associate it with Reddit?

>filter lists as a whole are a pretty reddit concept
Nope. Usenet.
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>>159438604
thanks.
>>
>>159366046
Now make the Three Color Empire
>>
damn, cheat doesn't work

I guess it's in gods hand now.

Perhaps the lord will bless me for destroying the chatolic heretics.
>>
>>159435815
>not using russia to get persian and ottoman land
ur shit
>>
why is Rights of Man priced at $20? Seems like everything important was included in the free update.

Mare Nostrum has more content and it was $5 cheaper (recently bought it for $5 during a steam sale, I don't pirate but there's no way I would buy full price DLC).
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>>159439576
No he won't. Better rev up that funeral.
>>
No but seriously who is lazlo though?
>>
Hello fellow four channers, im thinking of making a gsg steam group. Anyone want to joiN?
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>>159440562
Because Paradox wanted you to pay them 20 for it.
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You just made the biggest mistake of your failed existence, Russia. Now you're allied to a GP you're going to BOTH get dismantled because it will be a great war, meaning I don't have to waste time justifying on both of you.
>>
>>159440562
>(recently bought it for $5 during a steam sale
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>159440934
>1924
>using 30k stacks
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>>159441182
>implying I can haul 30k through the desert
>implying 60k can safely occupy the Russian steppe
>implying 30ks aren't better for baiting the enemy into attacking
>implying you can't create ebin hoi3 tier frontlines with 30k stacks
heh, nuthin personnel, kid
>>
Alright guys I'm going to give CK2 a try, never played grand strategy before. Besides playing the tutorial, are there any other resources that are recommended for learning?
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>>159441649
Playing the game is honestly the best way to learn it.
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>>159441649
>not starting with Liquoria 2
baka senpai
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>>159441649
Pretty much all tutorial videos are outdated. Pick who you want to play as, maybe tell us if you want advice, and take it very slow.
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>>159441649
Don't play tutorials it sucks in all pdx games, just play a little in ireland and cheat some money if you need, so you don't collapse right away.
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News and indeed fears of a coup amongst the royal family have prompted the Emir to announce an election is to take place, though it is suspected that the elite's support of the unpopular reactionary party will lead to liberals winning the election through the first past the post system.

>>159441850
>look mom i posted it again
Back to mana sim, laddo.
>>
>>159441826
>>159441924
>>159442005
That's what I was planning on doing. I guess my only question for now is, what should I generally be trying to do and expand upon? I just need a general direction and from there I will experiment.

>>159441850
I do have Vicky II actually, but from what I hear CK2 is a better starting point
>>
Does EU4 have a lot higher hardware requirements than the older titles? If I can run vicky2 and eu3 without problems will it work? Playig on a laptop who's always in danger of overheating...
>>
so I just built a castle fortifications upgrade in ck2, but when I look in the castle view the fortifications is still listed as level 1. Is this normal or a bug?
>>
How do I become the Danubian Federation?
>>
>>159442490
In what game?
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>>159442076
>Allowing democracy.
How disgusting. Seriously tho, whenever I play as AM I try to stay AM, switching factions is such a bitch.

>>159442189
>That's what I was planning on doing. I guess my only question for now is, what should I generally be trying to do and expand upon? I just need a general direction and from there I will experiment.
A good idea is to start as a duke/count (depends on how much head aches you want to start with) and Aim at your de jure liege title and it's lands.

>>159442189
>I do have Vicky II actually, but from what I hear CK2 is a better starting point
They don't really compare. They are very different games, and CK2 probably surassed vanilla V2 in complexity a couple dlc ago. There is no good place to start, do what sounds fun to you.

>>159442397
>Does EU4 have a lot higher hardware requirements than the older titles?
Should be fine, might need to mess with .ini to config graphics into dust
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>>159433329
actually rolling this could be fun
>>
Is it possible to achieve anything as Axis Ireland in HoI3?
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>>159442575
Vic2 HPM
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I want to move my capital to Crimea, but I can't because I don't have a state there and can't create one. Anyone knows how can I move my capital there?
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>>159442630
t.rob
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>>159442630
t talex
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Another great tragedy strikes as great war breaks out over the decline of Austria, a long time French, Italian and Russian ally against Germany, The Arab people have pledged their full support for the German state and will surely defend them in their righteous struggle against the forces of evil in this world.

>>159442586
>How disgusting. Seriously tho, whenever I play as AM I try to stay AM, switching factions is such a bitch.
Yeah, I didn't want to do it but I was getting monthly revolts that were pissing me off. RIP in Palestine glorious autocracy.

>>159442490
Become a cuck as Austria.

>>159442630
Great post, steamcordplaza.
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>>159442749
Don't fucking tell me those yellow things are provinces. How the fuck do they think this is a good idea? Oh and your cap will probably jump there if you lose your current one.
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>>159442978
They are, they are supposed to be cities and they have some kind of role but I don't know that much about this mod yet.
They look like shit though. Once Crimea is all mine they will look just fine so I don't mind
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>>159442630
t. robcrunchslayer
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>tfw liberating hungary costs 100 warscore so we can't dismantle anybody
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>>159442630
Is this or is this not Lazlo?
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Are we being raided?
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>>159444102
t.lazlo
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>>159444402
Who is this raided you speak of
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>>159443615
>you will never be as shit as the ai
why live lads
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Find one (1) flaw. Try it you shitters
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>>159443615

If youre the war leader you can wait till your warscore goes to 100 individually on anyone. Tbh this is the kind of situation where adding more wargoals and using debug yesmen doesnt feel like cheating. A Great War is a total war and you should be able to redraw borders and liberate nations as you wish if you win a total victory. Just look how much change WW1 brought. Vicky peace deals are downright lenient compared to it.
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>>159444778
I have literally never opened the console in any paradox game. Plus I'm not the warleader.
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>>159444679
I tried and I couldn't. I just couldn't. It's perfect.

Imagine the possibilities: liquor produced in Cape Town could be sent via railroad all the way to your bureaucrats in Manchuria.
All that grain and coal just waiting to produce liquor...
Marvellous.
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>>159444538
Keep posting lad, I'm beyond bored and you are the only interesting thing happening right now even if I think your borders are absolute meme.
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>occupying shit tonnes of provinces
>none of mine occupied
>no blockades
>still the war isn't going well enough
epic

>>159445054
Lad, this meme went stale fucking years ago, just stop.
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>>159444679
>that turko-somali-ethiopi-arabia
It takes a special kind of autism to come up with that.
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>>159445532
>9th in industry

You need to produce more liquor lad.
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>>159445509
>even if I think your borders are absolute meme.
I needed to liberate the Arabs in Anatolia and Persia anon. Why should Iran own land that's 90% Arab?

>>159445636
Fuck off Victor, no one ever found you funny. "Liqqykids" are posting content and you're posting year old memes to shit on them, take your epic EU4 playthrough back to /r/paradoxplaza where it belongs.
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>>159445809
wew
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Reminder to produce liquor in all states or your pops will get as much militancy as this poor bureaucrat
>>159445809
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>>159445809
Ebin grosshistoricalrevissionismus my friend.
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I vow to thee, my liquor, all grain and coalabove,
Entire and whole and perfect, the service of my factory;
The factory that asks no question, the factory that produces more,
That lays upon the bureaucrats the dearest and the best;
The pops that never falters, the pops that sip liquor,
The pops that makes undaunted the liquor consumption

And there's another factory, I've heard of long ago,
Most dear to them that love wine, most great to them that know;
We may not count her output, we may not see her monopoly;
Her fortress is a faithful bottle, her pride is industry score;
And soul by soul and silently her ind score increase,
And her ways are ways of liquor, and all her paths are glass.
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i think im having a heart attack guys
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I am liquor incarnate. Within my mind lies the power to reduce you crasftsmen to naught but militancy.
Having evolved beyond the pitiful distractions you fools call "steel factories", i spend my days and nights perfecting my craft - that of coal, grain, glass, and other unspeakable acts that would make your bureaucrats yelp.

I don't go to the pop screen without a plan B. I'm 15 factory upgrades ahead in every interaction with a craftsmen. It's quite laughable the way you intellectuals execute my every whim, all while under the delusion of free will.

Your will is my liquor.
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>literally the only party that supports free trade are an-caps
Based.
It looks like my people are going to elect >liberals because of how long I restricted their voting rights for.
>>159446653
>>159446117
>>159445956
Don't you ever get bored of trying to make everybody as sad as you, memebloc?
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>mfw my liquor producing province is occupied by anarcho liberals and it causes the world economy to crash
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>>159447116
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>>159446901
lad your militancy is too high, either produce more liquor or lower tariffs so they can import premium Sokoto Empire liquor
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>>159442749
I think that m&t significantly reduced the amount of states you can hold to prevent blobbing, so you probably can't turn them into states (yet)

And another tip, if you want a fat 50+ development capital, choose it over a trade node, a good production resources and optionally, good terrain
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>when you look at the trade screen and see you no longer have a liquor monopoly
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New thread
>>159447524
>>159447524

>>159447524
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>>159447753
>30 posts early
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This isn't going well lads
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>>159448921
Show div comps and I can tell you where you fucked up.
t. Emerald Isle pro
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>>159448921
At least we're killing a lot of them.

>>159449210
It's roughly an even mix of 3INF 1ART and 3INF 1AT
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>>159449441
It's not obvious, but for the theatres Ireland usually fights in and with your limited tech and budget, armoured cars can be life saviours.
I conquered Sicily + Calabria in an allied Ireland run with:
>>1st Corps
>1st Div. "Thunderbolt"
2 inf
1 art
>2nd Div. "Spearhead"
2 inf
1 art
>>2nd Corps
>3rd Div. "Centaur"
2 inf
1 at
>4th Div. "Stormraven"
2 inf
1 aa
>>3rd Assault Corps
>1st Arm. Div
2 ac
1 l-ar (Brit licence)
>6th Div. "Sea Serpent"
2 mar
1 at

I'll see if I can find some screens, but I played this a few years ago
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>>159433329
>HPM
>infamy wars mode
Game will become unplayable when you go over 25, everyone will sanction you and it will fuck you in the ass harder than any war could.
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>>159440473
Puppets can't do that shit
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>>159451320
Russia did end up getting dismantled but far too late for me to do anything of consequence. Maybe I'll try playing as one of the persian puppets in that area just because im a masochist.
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