Attack Of The Clones edition
Permalink: http://orph.link/eog
>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.
>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then all the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.
Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy
Focus Group Logs: https://focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/
Future:
>Winter: (New) https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/building-dreams-introducing-engineering-complexes/ , drilling platforms
>Nov 25: Eve Down Under
>Nov ??: http://updates.eveonline.com/coming/fall/ click through for devblog links on F2P and LINKS, plus teasers for rorqual reworks, industry structures, visual updates AND also free stuff, plus a new ship
Past:
>Sep 27: Coronation of Catiz I
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Sep 12: CSM 11 first summit
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 26: AT prizes announced (blood raider variations)
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 19: Broski joins then kills QFC
>Jul 18: Billboards submissions open
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, overlay vectors, new implants, drugs legal, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion now ECM immune, mass fitting
>Jun 23: RIP SP dailies
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
OFFICIAL LIST OF WORST TYPES OF PLAYERS IN EVE:
1. Nullsec botters/ratters/mission runners
2. Highsec botters/ratters/mission runners
3. Nullbabby napfest blobbers
4. Lowsec 'elite' link-alt slave set pvpers
5. 'hisec pvp'
6. Miners
7. Industrialists
8. Traders
9. Scammers
9001. Honorabru solo roamers
90001. Small gang NPC sov nullsec/lowsec
900001. C5-6 WH pvpers
9000001. Unsubbed players
wow this general really is dead
thats what happens if you let it run on memes constantly
polite sage
>>159210756
>>159210836
I'm johnny and that wasn't me.
>>159210898
Let's say I got a 14 day trial purely for the purpose of making as much money as possible before the end of the trial ends and I only have access to alpha clone features, what would be the easiest/best way to do so?
I only want to play the game for free but I'm wondering if a 14 day trial would allow me to kickstart my alpha clone before they come out on the 15th.
>>159211068
It's all right, I don't miss your alliance of jacking off over each other's avatars. So I guess we're even.
>>159211589
http://wiki.whitestagexitbag.org/doku.php/public/memes/hg-sex-slave
This is what your alliance is like, you also have a lack of empathy witch would indicate autism. If anyone would have a reason for suicide, it's you.
>>159211847
>>159212456
>old memes
Is that u Eddie
>>159213141
>>159213439
You sound a bit arrogant thinking I know who you are/can be Bothered to figure it out. I think you're more johnny meme than me. Like get over yourself senpai.
>>159209345
I just joined a C4 WH pvp corp, where do I come on this list?
As a side note, I feel like I'm starting a whole new life after becoming so used to real space, WH's are rather overwhelming.
>>159211847
you have a lack of spelling accuracy 'witch' would indicate being retarded.
3/10 made me respond
Daily reminder that the moros is the worst dread and the nag is better than the moros in every field of the world
MUH VOID
>>159211221
exploration
>>159221095
Hail still does more damage
Give the Moros its drone bay back.
>>159216264
Embrace it anon. Best Eve years of my life
>>159223358
Remove the fire rate bonus and repairer cycle time bonus
Give it a 5% damage bonus and a 7.5% bonus to rep amount
There, cap problems fixed and the moros no longer caps itself out on guns alone
>>159223658
Yeah I'm pretty excited, although it definitely seems like I'll need to put a lot more effort in than I'm used to.
Are Chimeras and Archons bottom tier now? They don't seem viable now as carriers are DPS platforms, and they consistently deal 25% less then their counterparts. Or am I missing something?
>>159223781
Depends on your corp I guess. But living without a station or easy access to modules and ships can be difficult. You will learn to live with what you bring with you
>>159223818
chimera is garbage, the archon as well but at least has a decent fighter bay
>>159223818
The archon has an extra low slot compared to the thanatos, this will make up most of the damage difference or can be used to make an archon much tankier than a thanatos can be. The chimera is pretty bad though.
>>159223818
so fit an extra damage mod
>>159224195
>>159224159
>>159224104
Can carrier do anything but fighters and perhaps neut?
>>159224425
no, it can't do anything but apply like 3000 dps from infinite range and have ridiculous capital hp
>>159224480
You can kill its DPS though. Triage was really good though with 1000 DPS backup
>carrier
>ridiculous hp
>>159224563
it's hard to kill fighters when the fighters are killing you
>>159223818
Mostly
Their higher tank threshold doesn't help them in their actual carrier performance
The thanatos will consistently out dps the archon but the archon gets another low that can help its damage. The chimera is absolutely bottom of the tier, it has little going for it over the other carriers
>>159224618
Being a true caldari patriot is suffering
>chimera
but muh tank
Daily reminder that the wyvern has the same fighter bay as the thanny
>>159225185
why does ccp hate caldari?
>80% discount on an ugly skin
>Kicked off our homeworld
>All our ships considered to be for carebears for years
>Finally take back our homeworld only to get kicked off again
>Now our carriers suck
GALLENTE KEEPING US DOWN, UPRISING NOW!
CALDARI PRIDE NEW EDEN-WIDE
>caldari
anime nazis pls go
>cookie cluster
>Jackie Whatever
>johnny meme
>slamjam
lol
>>159226302
If you want tips on how to name characters as good was me, 100m in game
>as good was me
so anon, why haven't you tapped into the ERP market?
>>159227769
I already run a ring of whoring
>>159227940c-can i join
>>159227704
This is not god tier to you? That's just 1/7 accounts.
>not tengoo
brand new player here
which corp has the best memes?
>>159229351
All-Out
>>159229351
Goonswarm
>>159229351
Doomheim
>le eris PI man
>>159229351
Pupper Appreciation Station ofc
>>159229351
CCP
tfw no man to satisfy and bear children for
I hate when guys think I'm a slut just because I'm a trap
tfw no anon to bear my puppies
>>159229351
broski north
One day I'll be brave enough to venture out into low sec and kill some niggers
Is it too late to get into this game?
>>159235989
No,
Wait for 15th of this month and you will be able to play it for free.
>>159235989
Or start a trial now and use it for free after nov 15
>>159236263
>>159236190
what's the comfiest way to play? something mindless and chill would be nice.
>>159236589
Find a different hobby
>>159236667
I have a good grasp of how eve works, just think of mindless and chill as relative terms.
>>159236589
I've always imagined mining in a group to be kind of chill and relaxing. I've never done it though, so I can't say I'd recommend it.
>>159237520
mining isnt chill
if you're in a mining barge you are constantly at risk of being suicide ganked in high sec
>highsec
>barge
>not being maximum comfy
>>159238237
>mining in a frigate
>literally doing nothing
>>159238237
what's this? As I don't play the game I don't know what you mean just by a pic
>>159209156
I'm one week old, not exactly competitive for pvp, but I would like to engage in it. I'm thinking of using combat probes to scan down mission runners in highsec and destroying their MTUs. I don't want to engage them though since I won't stand a chance in my Rifter or Thrasher. Is this even possible?
>>159239542
I wouldn't call it pvp, but yeah sure. mtus have a lot of hp, so I'd bring the thrasher
confirmed
>>159239542
Try Faction warfare, you can finance your pvp losses just by playing
>>159238603
its a mining frigate
they are good for going into low security areas and mining relatively small amounts of valuable ore
>>159240875
except that's not what's happening, and there's no valuable ore that's valuable enough to do that kind of thing
>>159241054
right, but they make easy killmails
>stabbed covops frigate in the middle of a 100km gas cloud
good luck
>tronhadar
so it's like nefantar but with dull blue instead of gold
>>159242680
>>159243028
who are you talking to you scruffy black bastard
>>159243028
>Comparing it with good tier nefantar
>>159243958
someone said they're going to make skins cheap, but are they going to make them good? there's so many bad ones
>>159244096
Probably not.
Like the latest Amarr ones and Crimson ones are shit tier effort recolors.
ded as fuq
>>159244303
I'm ok with some no effort recolours, but some of them are worse than unskinned and just look really awful
Goons confirmed bears.
wow this game is fucked
>>159249742
say that again and I will ban you permanently
>>159249816
(you)
>>159246462
what's wrong with khanid
>>159250414
They lost the Succession Trials.
stabber
>>159254920
>tfw no 5th lowslot for efficient plate rep
haha epic
>mfw plate rep fit with web point and multifrequency runs out of cap in seconds.
>he ca te
>Skim It Are
>ty-phoon
>still 12 more days
>until eve dies
xlasb is a passive module
>>159260350
wat
>>159261390
projectile weapons should have travel time
>>159262669
no why would they do that?
>>159262929
because projectiles don't really travel instantly in real life do they????....?????.........???????
>>159263046
we have technology currently that can shoot projectiles many many times the speed of sound that for all intends and purposes crossing 100km is virtually instantaneous
so do hybrids and lasers
>>159263151
Um they absolutely have a noticeable effect travelling at those distances
>>159263227
No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGk2vGttCmY
>>159264063
they have travel time you fucking imbecile. Snipers even have to account for the earth's curvature.
>>159265839
Barely any
>snipers
A 1400mm howitzer is not a "sniper"
Adding miniscule travel time to projectiles wouldnt affect or help the game in any way. It'd add needless calculations for no reason. Do you want to add a vector to the game as well so that if you make a sudden turn where ever a projectile was going to land misses?
>>159266616
>Adding miniscule travel time to projectiles wouldnt affect or help the game in any way
it would. It would allow a new form of counter-gameplay rather than RNG bullshit. you can't even say what's so bad about it.
>90% tidi blobfight
>300 machariels fire at once
>socket closed
>>159266759
You're an idiot. We already have counter play to weapon systems of all kinds.
>you can't even say what's bad about it
Thats not how this works fucker the burden of proof belongs to you to prove your assertion.
>based on rng
Every weapon system relies on the tracking formula, the rng in the realm of the formula is very consistent
>elements of chance are bad
>>159266981
>We already have counter play to weapon systems of all kinds.
boy diggity that target painter and ECM sure is great counter play mechanics totally based on individual player skill.
The idiot here is you. Idiot.
Sure let's add travel time to projectile weapons. We had better nerf the application of every other weapon system while we are at it to even things out. Or we could just not fix something that isn't broken.
>>159268430
>projectiles
>not broken
Now this is some low effort trolling.
get the fuck out of my /eog/ faggot
carbonized lead s
>>159268116
>boy diggity that target painter and ECM sure is great counter play mechanics totally based on individual player skill.
Tracking disruptors stupid ass
>enemy fleet has multiple vigils
>>159271778
>unironically suggesting TDs
>There are people out there this stupid
>>159248216
fucking theta
>>159274076
what?
>>159274076
theta squad are the goon jews
do goons still have really terrible leaders who everyone hates
>restart game
>most of my settings were reset
fucking icelandic monkeys
>>159275012
also removed my 100 waypoint route
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>159274882
mfw themittani.com was re-branded to imperium.com and is now allowed to post freely on reddit and get like 1000 upvotes as goons broadcast to vote up their articles.
>>159248216
>Venal
>5b
what happens there?
Dead game
>>159276320
Isn't venal npc null? I'd guess people just krab gurista missions there
>want to fit maller for solo null pvp
>2 webs, no room for cap booster and will get capped out
>1 web and cap booster, to easy to fly under guns and abuse shit pulse laser tracking
Amarr is suffering.
Lowsec citadels can have guns/warp scrams right?
debating whether I should try docking in one
>>159280457
if you can see it on your overview in distance off grid you can dock at it
>>159280420
50% tracking bonuses multipurpose crystals when?
>gleam
>>159281537
only 25%
Why are there no solar systems between keberz and hed-gp ?
>why isn't universe filled evenly
>>159281615
cause lowsec gate campers would have a hissy fit if they actually had to work for their kills
>>159280420
>solo pvp in a bait ship
>>159280420
better to use a vexor it has 4 mids and no cap problems
>>159282568
yeah, vexor seems the easy go-to choice. I really wanted to use lasers though.
>>159283161
Ashimmu
>>159283161
Well an omen is OK for lasers but in terms of cruisers with lasers either go with the phantasm or the omen navy issue
>>159283317
huur spend 60 mill or 150 mill if you want to use lasers...
how the fuck is this balanced to anyone in here?
>>159285073
projectiles are the same
>>159285073
It's not, welcome to Eve dead game
>>159285073
well the cap usage is the weakness of lasers. Vexor can do a shitton of dps for a cruiser but its range is shit with blasters so most of the time you only have to deal with drones. With cruiser laser boats the range doesn't really matter as you can instantly switch ammo, but tracking upclose is shit and it drains cap. Everything has a give and take, which is why right now I just stick to flying a slicer where I can easily choose my battles.
what's the best corp for a newfag
>>159285593
Doomhelm
>amarr
>>159288495
>Apocalypse
>>159285729
trhanks im glad this game is still so alive and ehalthy
>>159285348
>cap usage
>guys I just said another meme
>XDDD
tfw this general
>>159290246
>those shoes
amarr
>>159295015
Just let the thread die like this game has.
fuck off cookie
>>159295246
It's already a ghost town, do you want it to get any worse?
It's only gonna get better when you finally biomass
>>159295852
Why are you mad senpai
>oneiros
>>159236589
>>159237520
Sometimes I just want to sit back and fight asteroids. Mining fleets are chill. You get boosts to your yield and a bunch of people to shoot the shit with on comms.
>>159281615
Keberz and HED-GP
> Oh god, memories of the BRAVE evacuation fleet
> fuck you pandemic legion
>>159229351
Only one has the true memes.
Anyone else miss the old aesthetic? When I made my Khanid Cyber Knight he actually looked like a badass Neo-Mongol, now he's just a bald asian guy.
>>159306179
>We will never hear the old stargate sound again
sentient signal amplifier
>>159285348
You know what else is funny?
The amarr laser cruisers have the same cap recharge rate as the other cruisers
>>159306179
no way, you can fly as a space cutie now
herp
Tfw benjis probably robbing mining corps and welping Tristan's in heaven. G*d bless lil man never forget the era of benji for it was a good one.
She was the best girl
>>159318882
I don't think I can ever double cross a corp I join, unless I have a reason to hate leadership or something.
Newbro here is eve uni a decent learning corp
>>159319658
Well you recruited me into coyote, doesn't that count as double crossing?
>tfw too nice for EVE
>>159319724
Dreddit is always recruiting
>>159319967
>>159197292 here you will find better games
>>159319967
99% of the players in this game are nice, it's the same as wow difference is there's more potential do to harm.
>>159319724
Just use eve wiki as a resource. There's a lot of stuff to learn but none of it is really hard (except advance stuff like elite solo pvp).
>eve wiki
>needing other resources when you have r/eog
>>159320230
>eve wiki
eve uni wiki
>>159320142
How would solo pvp even work? Doesn't everybody pvp in groups? What stops 2 frigates from orbiting and slowly destroying you?
>>159320856
Solo is dying but it isn't dead yet.
>eve uni wiki
>>159320856
Kite them out, shit on their low transversal. Solo is easy if you are a half decent pilot.
>>159320856
Never use orbit function, always manual pilot your ships. Solo is about choosing what you can engage or cant, so its safer just to fly stuff that can outspeed your opponents in case you need to bail
Manual piloting is literally trash
Wish ccp would improve eve's controls
90% webs
>>159322547
Its not, you have to always account for your ships agility and not do hard turns that kill your speed. That and controlling range vs your opponent so you can keep them pointed while reducing transversal is where a lot of the skill lies
Daily reminder that the moros is the worst dread and the nag is better than the moros in every field of the world
>xe doesn't know about the secret moros exploit
Daily reminder that the tormentor and executioner have the same bonuses and they're the only two frigs in the game to share the same bonus
Phoenix buffs when?
>>159324006
Doesent need any.
>>159324006
Capital t2 rage torps need a huge buff to application because apparently, faction torps do more damage to a target of any size including a Titan than the rages do
The rage torps apply like such shit
I'm telling you to stop killing miners. This is the third mackinaw I've lost this week to fucktard faggots in catalysts. How the hell am I supposed make isk and produce things if you assholes keep killing me? The mods and ships you fly are only there because of people like me. Have some respect for our effort dammit!
>>159324608
Before anyone asks
This is including Tps and guidance computers they still apply like absolute shit
>>159324832
I like to imagine this post being shouted out by a pouty girl in torn clothes, covered in cum.
>>159323986
split weapons tormentor when
>>159324929
All sarcasm aside
If you go to the official eve forums shitters whine non stop about this and the amount of salt that pours out of there is hilarious and a great place to read the retarded ideas people come up with
>make a gambling event for eve players
>icelandic monkeys think they're invited
>start making panels
>kill the wish to gamble
>even bring the disgusting tranny
what did he mean by this
>Can't blob
>Stands down
>no tp v bellicose pilot
>fleet disbands
Anyone gonna watch eve_nt on sunday?
>>159324832
can't you tank the mining ships to 50k ehp?
git gud scrub
projectiles should have travel time
>>159329019
Projectiles should do extra kinetic damage and nuclear/fusion should do the names justice.
>>159319260
She burned so much coal that she contracted re-vitiligo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irxNduxRyWo
different kinds of ammo should have different stats not only limited to tracking and damage/type
for example
>nuclear projectiles do 30% more damage but take 30% longer to fire
>proton projectiles slow the target by 10% on successful hits
>gamma crystal can deal damage to two targets but deals 40% less damage
>microwave crystal does 50% more damage but also deals 5% self-damage
>plutonium charge applies a DOT on the enemy over 10 seconds but fires 50% slower
>lead charges stick to the enemy, increasing their mass slightly and stacking over the course of the engagement, but deals 30% less damage
then add t2 variants of every standard ammo and make the current special ammo even more pronounced (scorch now gives you like 200% more range but you deal jack all for damage etc)
the only ammo that should strictly change damage type and nothing else is missiles, since missiles are supposed to be a more flexible kind of ammo
>>159331431
why
>>159331510
why not :^)
>>159331510
to make the game more interesting than choosing between 3 kinds of ammo
>long range t2
>close range t2
>best faction ammo
it seriously makes ship fitting a little stale when there's only 3 viable kinds of ammunition per gun
where's the MMO style attributes and effects, ccp?
>>159331683
I agree that t2 ammo for short range guns should be heavily nerfed
>>159281787
smirk'd
>mfw amarr ships without cap bonuses
they would get the most outrageous bonuses though to make up for losing all their capacitor :^)
Are the missile hit effects on my ship purely cosmetic or do they affect the course?
>>159331431
just add chaos damage which goes str8 to hull but can be mitigated with a low slot mod that makes ur shield only have 1 hp
>>159333967
>ship only has turret cap bonus
you're better off using projectiles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPphBBK1nGE
>>159337281
I like it when shitters do this
>>159338454
If you have a ship with no direct performance bonus to a weapon system then you fill those slots with either missiles or projectiles because there is literally no fucking reason to ever consider lasers with that kind of cap usage
>>159341014
enjoy your shit dps and/or range
>>159341161
Usually these non bonused ships don't rely on the guns to apply dps
Like the Armageddon for example, it has 5 non bonused gun and missile slots
It's better to use missiles or autocannons in them
Take the punisher for example, there's no real reason to use lasers in it anymore since things like blasters do a he'll of a gold job or any weapon system in there
Most drone ships don't have a direct bonus to their gun highslot s so either neuts or autocannons fill them too like the Dragoon or algos
>>159342105
>blaster punisher
lmao what, do you even undock
>>159342575
????
>>159344076
never change r/eog :)
Is there anyway to have the selected items take keyboard input by default?
I mean when I'm jumping through gates, I want to be able to just press s then d, rather than having to click the selected item box, then s then d.
>>159344309
I don't know, but clicking the dock button in selected items is easier than what you say you have to do
>>159322815
That's not what I meant. Pointing and clicking for movement in eve isn't like most mmos nor rpgs.
Is drug manufacturing an even remotely viable industry anymore? Any tips?
>>159346008
Manufacturing drugs is illegal, anon. I'm calling the police.
Will f2p players be an actual factor in the game?
I have always enjoyed reading about EVE but just don't have the opportunity to commit myself enough to justify PLEXing
Should I start my trial now to be ready for the transition?
What should I do?
Join All-Out
I've been a carebear forever, sitting on 7m skill points.
I want to get into solo pvp. Hyper aggressive just hitting myself against walls dying and dying until I git gud.
I want something fast and aggressive so I'm thinking Incursus brawler right?
>>159347085
It's not free, at least trial lets you train some level fives
>>159346452
pls anon i'm only trying to make money
>>159347848
I know it's freemium, I won't have access to all the content and all I do will take an insane amount of time BUT
I plan on playing that way and every once in a while gathering enough credits to PLEX myself when I have the time to play.
>>159347670
there are many frigates to choose from. incursus isn't that great imo, but sure why not
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=1001574&b=7281796&e=90&t=e&ro=67.18333333333334
Let's talk about blobbing.
>evf-eve.com
stopped reading there
>>159351363
The zkill report took a while to process itself:
https://zkillboard.com/related/31001574/201611042000/
>blobbing
>>159346008
they aren't illegal now, no risk
before it could have been
>jump already in progress
>please wait
>jump already in progress
>please wait
>jump already in progress
>please wait
>jump already in progress
>please wait
>we have confiscated ur drugs
I lost like 10bil in drugs + got fined 10mil (should have been 200% of market value or 20bil ontop, idk why it was so low)
>when you suck the nestor dry
>higgs anchor
removal when
what are you flying
>>159352485
why remove it?
>Capital memetic algorithm banks
For what purpose>in before >memes
>>159355932
same as any of the other useless capital rigs that aren't armor or shield rigs for resist or increased amount
Why do T2 ships only have two rig slots?
>>159356581
balancing decision, desu they should just get 3 rigs
faction ships should get a full 400 calibration points not 350
>>159355932
reminder that people actually ACTUALLY manufacture those things
like, they LITERALLY make COMPLETELY useless items
>>159356709
I almost didn't believe you
https://eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=31248
Post killmails with capital meme rigs
>>159357151
I don't think there are any
https://zkillboard.com/item/31242/
https://zkillboard.com/item/31249/
getting that t2 bpc from a site must be the worst feeling
you rolled for a sick capital blueprint and you get the literal worst one possible
https://zkillboard.com/kill/54320266/
>>159359360
if only they had released dust to pc we'd still be able todustinfantrymen from orbit
why ccp
>>159360257
PC gaming was dead at the time. Dust was made back when only console games were being made. I'm not sure why this shitty period of time came to be, but the games were utter garbage at the time, and have yet to really recover from the console disease.
>PC gaming was dead
shit meme
>>159363414
It's not a meme. This gay period of time ultimately resulted in things like oblivion and its derivatives, shitty CoD sequels and such.
Dragon Age was notable for making a step towards breaking the trend, only to do a 180 and turn into dragon age 2, a console game which was utter shit.
I'd keep going if I wasn't about to go to bed and we weren't in this particular thread.
>it's not a meme
>We're removing a midslot from the punisher and giving it an additional lowslot to compensate - ccp_fozzie
>>159367282
punished
>>159367282
>best gang frigate by miles
>shitloads of afterburner 1v1 babbies saying it needs buffs
>""""""""""""""""small""""""""""""""""""" gang
>>159225724
>falcon
>carebears
>ccp will never rollback to 2012
>>159371664
>mfw linkbabbies
>>159371923
jump fatigue and fozzie sov killed it for me, not removing links
removing links shows the direction this game is going hasnt changed, removing isboxer and stuff ccp is designing their game around the vocal minority and are clearly killing it lmao
>>159372173
>m-muh PL
>content means hotdropping everyone all the time
terrible
>>159372241
more like all of nullsec, the only decent content generator left is hunting rattings, and even that sucks with the new AI cause the rats just target you straight away
>>159372403
>content generator
I don't know how you define this, but I don't know how you're saying they're removing whatever it is
>>159372604
1b citadels on weekly reinforcement things, fozzie sov is tedious, sucks and is about griffins. posses (previous #1 content generator) being removed. keepstars are immortal and no one cares enough to kill one. c02/test are winning the timers against ncdot/pl without the fight but are just fighting for fun. this game is dead
>>159372958
>citadels
what's the problem
>fozzie sov is tedious
why? I think it's fun
>>159373149
>what's the problem
it takes 2 weeks to take one down
wait until its vulnerable, bash it, wait a week, bash it, wait another week, bash it for the final timer
in those 2 weeks its 7 more citadels can be set up
>>159373326
I guess, but how has adding citadels removed a content thing
>>159373401
you could reinforce a pos at any time and they would be a generator of big fights
>>159275807
p sure everyone still hates them though
>>159373632
pos still exist m8
>>159373781
they're going to get removed, the point is a POS is not replaced by a citadel
>>159373831
the new industrial things are apparently a lot easier to kill than citadels I think, maybe you can go blob some of those
>>159374001
still has a 2 week timer
>>159356828
Cheap to make. Why the fuck not.
>>159375329
because theres no volume for it
cute
>>159376143
qtpa2t
>>159376143
>rustbucket
>>159376143
would dock
>>159347670
Dual prop taranis is what you want, though you will need more skill points and probably piloting experiance first. Incurses is a slow brawler, AB fits are generally awful but you can make one and go faction warfare and catch people coming in on plexes
>>159372173
Removing links is great. I don't see the point in them, once your fleet reaches a certain size you always want them, theres no skill or decision making involved at all
>>159381821
>dual prop
when will this bad meme die?
>>159383460
Why would it die? It's good at fighting stuff.
>drive ammo prices way up so me and other marketers can jew hard
>faggots drive it back down
>faggots drive it back down
>those that drove the price back down are selling, while those that didn't aren't
Really makes me wonder who are the real faggots and who are the real kikes...
>le you only sell if its cheap meemay
>amarr
>weekend
>thread literally dead
Where the fuck is everybody
>>159391981
>Playing Eve on a friday night instead of going out gettin' LIT
What are you, a loser? XD
getting what
>>159383460
dual prop is a high tier solo pvp meme
>meemay
You have poor business sense you faggot
Why didn't you just buy all those that undercut you? Poor? Ayy le mao
>>159393118
I did. How'd you get the price up otherwise. But the fags can't get a clue
Dead game
dead empress
dead uh game or meme w/e
>low energy shitposting
>>159393118
>find someone who will buy you out
>keep importing stuff
>make quick isk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJiHahBB1PE
>Ban gambling
>Have an event in vegas
>>159401346
>That constant lip smacking
How do people on his fleet comms not kill themselves?
>>159333967
>>159367282
Can anyone link me the balances they're making? I'm on their youtube and there's too many new videos.
I'm a huge amarr fan, giving the punisher a 3rd midslot and replacing the turret cap bonus would make my day
>I'm a huge amarr fag
ftfy
>>159402120
>were are so edgy we got blood cultists, slavery, freedom to scam kill and steal, blackjack with hookers
>oh wait UK law says we cannot do X in a game
>ah uhm sorry guys but from now on X is banned RING RING SAFETY FIRST (for our ass)
>>159406542
How will this affect my escort services and erotic fanfiction business in jita?
>>159405842
I really like how the replaced the turret cap bonus, then decided to "buff" the punisher by giving it the turret cap bonus back.
>>159409920
All they had to do was add a third midslot and replace the cap bonus with optimal bonuses.
Hey can someone tell me when the big update is?
I heard it was supposed to be on november 8th but someone said it was pushed back.
I need a fucking Azbel.
Question for you nightowls, What is the emptiest region of highsec? I want to be running 4/10 an don't want to be bothered. Is Khanid a good place?
>night
>4/10
>khanid
>>159410782
The latest economic report was just posted. You could probably look at it and the general isk flow of each region to get a good idea of which is the quietest.
>>159410858
The biggest ship I can fly are t3d's. I havent even trained cruisers so no bullying.
>>159410883
Thanks I just saw the charts on the devblog
>>159411014
What if I told you you can run ded 5 6 7 in a stealth bomber?
>>159412383
I doubt it. DED 4/10 took like 20 minutes in my blinged confessor, at 50km sniping what felt like 100 or more sentry towers and frigates. If I actually went close ikel 15km away I would get torn up. Stealth bombers are low damage low tank dogshit, I suck at pvp and I managed to get my first kill against a manticore while I was in a meta0 rifter. That's how weak they are
>>159347085
>>159348429
No one wants to answer my question?
>>159413919
Yes, they can and will be an actual factor. In one of the recent large-scale battles 17% of the fleets were made up of t1 frigates, destroyers, and cruisers, the ships Alpha clones will be able to fly. You'll also have access to some nice money-making opportunities such as exploration and faction warfare, so PLEXing won't be as hard as everyone makes it out to be.
>>159414238
what race should I pick? I know that alpha clones will have to follow a race's skill trait
>>159414618
Gallente is going to be the "safe" pick, but CCP has said they're going to do a balance pass to make each race roughly equally desirable to alpha clones. If that works out it will mostly come down to what you like more thematically, although I would suggest avoiding Amarr as their low-tier ships tend to have much more issues with capacitor usage than other races' ships.
>Brutor
>free to play releases
>people watched the trailer
>think thats hows gonna happen
>people read all those "epic" stories about wars, politics and scammers/big bank theft
what really happens
>start game
>wait a few months skillqueue to be useful, spincapsuleship while waiting
>they MAYBE find their way into a fleet
>most of them gonna quit because they get scammed right at the start
>those who get into a fleet experience the "epic" slowmotion battles
>another 50% quits right there
>"politics" is just a bunch of dudes on voice calling each other faggot if they dont do this or that
>literally just like any other MMO
>some of the newshits try trading
>get to jita
>oh whats that, a contract?
>accept
>quit the game after you lost everything
The only alpha clones that will remain are my 25 alts and the 25 of everyone in my corp. There is no way you get new blood into EvE, i almost puked watching the fucking trailer its so far away from reality its not even funny anymore.
I've been "playing" Eve for over a year now
And I probably have less than a a day played ingame
how much does it cost to turn 10m skillpoints into injectors?
>>159415161
20*extractor price
>>159415161
Skill Extractors are running about 300m each right now, and each one consumes 500k skillpoints.
>>159415273
they are at 630m tho
and they gonna explode in 10 days
>>159415343
retard
>>159415343
Extractors, not Injectors. He was asking how much it would take to turn 10m skillpoints into injectors, not how much to buy 10m skillpoints worth of injectors.
>>159414618
Amarr. They have some of the nicest looking ships in the game. The smaller ships are aggressive and agile looking, the larger battleships actually feel like proper flagships.
They've got great armor tanks and shoot laser beams which are some of the best long range, high damage weapons in the game, great for kiting. Their backup weapons are drones (think mini fighter jets) which are in an extremely strong place.
They have one of the most fun and effective EWAR (electronic warfare) in the game, neuts which drain power from enemy ships making them unable to heal, move quickly and in some cases fire back.
Not to mention there are many RP events/lore surrounding the Amarr Empire, if that's your thing. There's even a big alliance in the south, called CVA. They are comprised of Amarr loyalist roleplayers and they fly 'Golden Fleets' all the time.
>tricking alphas into flying Amarr
For shame.
>going to 4chan to get infos about eve
just how retarded do you have to be? this general is basically like the PoE one, dead and only a few shitposters are left ulu
>PoE
That game still exists?
>>159415858
There are 70 unique IP's in this thread, the only alternative is reddit, so what are you suggesting?
>cva
/poeg/ is the best general on /vg/, don't compare yourself to them.
the fuck is poeg
>>159413878
> stealth bomber low damage
Weapon systems dont work the way you think, you can sig tank all the rats and snipe sentries from outside their range (Sansha sentries NOT blood raider) or speed tank them. 800 dps, which means you will be volleying everything from destroyers up, and you can switch to rage torps for battleships that are very common in the higher end DED.
>not joining All-Out and getting a trapfu
>trapfu
There are no traps in that corp.
>>159414618
You just said that the races are negligible, so pick the one you think looks the best
>it has 800dps becuz eft told me
>eft
>no traps
>>159416253
>mfw frigs are harder to kill than cruisers
>slim keyboard
>she thinks that is a trap
>not mining
Don't you want to be comfy, anon?
Let me get this straight.
>in high-sec
>doing some combat sites
>drop MTU
>collect dosh
>some faggot in Ishtar warps in and start attacking my fucking MTU
>gets Suspect status
>I hesitate to attack him because I have shit load of rats on my back
>after some time he warps off
>call him a faggot in local
Did I do the right thing?
If I have attacked him I would have been blown the fuck out right?
>>159416854
>If I have attacked him I would have been blown the fuck out right?
Yes
>>159416854
>call him a faggot in local
homophobic much? you are the reason that eve is dying
lmao why
https://zkillboard.com/kill/56970828/
>>159417727
>1x Minmatar Shuttle
>max cargo fit iteron loaded with another iteron and plex
This a wardec kill, suicide gank, or the player has suspect status?
doesn't matter, look at the fit and cargo
>>159415619
>they fly 'Golden Fleets' all the time
>join CVA to fly epin /dog/ tier amarr fleet comp
>you have to train into ferox and other shield doctrine because not even CVA flies amarr anymore
Could anyone do a new version of this?
>Lasers are intrinsically better than other turrets and this justifies their cap usage
thoughts?
>>159422994
They have better projection which is actually very practical in real combat.
>Jump fatigue was anything but a net positive and a game saving throw by CCP
>>159422994
Compared to AC, yeah. 200mm Autocannons are doing 50% of their dps in their 10km falloff while scorch is hitting paper dps out to 20km. Even fighting at 0 pulse lasers are better.
Blasters are great on ships that can dictate range like the daredevil, but in an incursus you WILL get scram kited by lasers/missiles
>>159423647
>take break from game for a couple of months
>come back
>first solo kill back I get a firetail with my executioner
>I dictated range and kept him in scram range the whole time, his autocannons did shit damage
Feels good man. Reminds me why this game is awesome and why more expensive ships are not always better ships in the hands of a shit pilot (he was russian)
>/eog/ told me lasers were bad
>they're objectively the best weapon system in the game
>ac firetail
>>159424705
artillary firetail would have done even worse.
>amarr weapons
>good
>babby-tier generalisations about combat
>he can't pilot an arty vessel
I miss the old apoc model.
it's shit
I miss the old mega model
rokh redesign when
rokh navy when
rokh kaalakiota skin when
rokh ishukone skin when
>>159318882
i only have a couple days played in eve but i remember this guy. he joined my corp that i made myself because he liked my tag, took me to go kill people with me and told me exactly what to do, and then just disappeared. an absolute madman
>>159427298
Any actual low sec "pirates" (or pvpers whatever) here? What's it actually like? any fun?
>>159427452
https://zkillboard.com/kill/53170390/
im riff raff
>>159427526
I used to be, but lowsec is so un-fun that I only go to nullsec now
sup senpai new to the game, how do i make it so my directional scan and my overview only show pertinent juicy information?
>>159429085
use sara shawa overview pack or your corps relevant overviewpack.
google eve overview pack
pick one you like and install
I do recommend going through the options yourself manually once you understand more about the game
>>159429085
>>159429245
Oops forgot to quote.
Daily reminder the moros is the worst dread and the nag is better than the more in every field of the world
>>159429337
xdddd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz_0VfX-uFE
literal shoah vs merchants
>>159429337
Feels good man.
implying I forgot to quote
>>159429245
is there anything for directional scan so i dont get shitty advertisement depots and such?
>>159429591
you load the overview presets into dscan
it uses stuff from the overview pack
your d scan can be set to use your overview settings
just set it to ccp inbuilt pvp filter until you have it set up better
>>159427526
pirates like the ones that demand ransom are very rare nowadays, since most people try to whore their killboards or not respect a ransom, ie take the money, kill the ship too.
Lowsec has some nice regions for solo pvp, such as black rise and there's lowsec corps who will have brawls against each other too.
If you're looking for fights its a nice place to be, but some people feel that it's pointless, since you're not really fighting over anything. (faction warfare was a joke when I last played a year ago)
>>159429814
i got it set up atm to only show ships from sara pack i think? I really just wanna go do exploration in wh space but just keep scanning for peeps that are coming to gank me. usually doesnt work out but sometimes it does and i get some dosh. or if i get ganked i tell them im new and they send me loads a money
>>159429997
you want probes and combat probes too.
>>159429898
>black rise
fw is pretty shit desu
>muh consensual battles
I can't deal with this, it's so embarassing
who /comfy/ here
I posted earlier about solo pvp. After doing some fitting research it looks like i have the best chance at drones since it is my highest skill. Should I go tristan or vexor drone boat? And what do I do with my high slots?
>>159434016
tristan is top tier
>what do I do with my highslots
it depends. if you're brawling with it then whatever railguns or blasters fit. if you're being a kitenigger then probably they'll be empty
>>159434016
Standard kiting tristan:
empty
shield, MWD, warp disruptor
nanofiber internal, drone damage amp, damage control or drone damage amp
rigs: shield shit. Probably resists and stuff.
You can get a neuting one with a plate, cap booster, afterburner, scram, but I don't know it by heart.
>>159427620
I don't understand
>>159435235
neuting tristans are shit
>>159435331
It's a counter to repfags, you aren't supposed to use it outside of that.
>>159435427
you'll probably lose if cap boosters, or get memed by scram kiters
>Move to another state
>Try playing EVE
>Socket closed
I'm fucked, aren't I
>>159436684
yes
enjoy your garbo isp
>>159436684
PM'd you the fix
>>159436947
rip
>>159437409
thx that fixed it, can a mod lock/delete this thread
I've been searching nullsec for relic sites for the past 3 hours.
Haven't found a SINGLE one.
how the FUCK am i supposed to make money?
>>159438272
You should have started questioning your life decisions after first hour
>>159438362
its saturday man
>>159438272
You shouldn't have joined pandemic horde. They farm those fuckers like no other
Woah, man.
Gila is so fucking good. Those fucking drones man, who needs Geckos when you have those motherfuckers.
[Tristan, TristanDrone]
Drone Damage Amplifier I
Damage Control I
Small Armor Repairer I
Warp Disruptor I
Stasis Webifier I
5MN Microwarpdrive I
Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S
[Empty High slot]
[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]
Hobgoblin I x8
This is my first attempt at making a fitting, cheap, sub 1mil drone tristan to learn pvp in
>>159439145
t1 modules are shit. low meta modules are often the same price or cheaper
>>159439145
First, make sure you have pyfa installed. It's a third party fitting tool that lets you see the consequences of the different modules you fit. It also lets you simulate the fits of your potential enemies.
Then, keep in mind that T1 mods are generally bad. Named mods are better and generally cheaper.
Your fit is vaguely alright, but will get shit on in lowsec where everyone is scram kite afterburner fit.
Well, you'll get shit on by everyone because you have no skillpoints and your equipment is weak, so I guess it's a decent enough training tool.
Realistically, though, joining a competent corporation will teach you more and more quickly than going out to fight on your own.
>>159438272
maybe you should learn to probe fagtron
>Pyfa
>>159438272
Get out of dronelands.
>>159438272
Are you sure that you're using the right scanner?
>download game
>go mining
mining is fun
:D
>undock
>someone uses a skill extractor on me and steals 500,000 SP
>free to play releases
>people watched the trailer
>think thats hows gonna happen
>people read all those "epic" stories about wars, politics and scammers/big bank theft
what really happens
>start game
>wait a few months skillqueue to be useful, spin capsuleship while waiting
>they MAYBE find their way into a fleet
>most of them gonna quit because they get scammed right at the start
>those who get into a fleet experience the "epic" slowmotion battles
>another 50% quits right there
>"politics" is just a bunch of dudes on voice calling each other faggot if they dont do this or that
>literally just like any other MMO
>some of the newshits try trading
>get to jita
>oh whats that, a contract?
>accept
>quit the game after you lost everything
The only alpha clones that will remain are my 25 alts and the 25 of everyone in my corp. There is no way you get new blood into EvE, i almost puked watching the fucking trailer its so far away from reality its not even funny anymore.
>undocking
>>159443643
>unironically giving fuck about any "new player" bullshit
>some guy who doesn't know anything telling us how things work
>fullerides - ~700isk
go fucking lower u piece of shite fuuugk
>>159444473
what do they even do
It is beyond your comprehension
Question:
Is it worth to create one man corp to avoid taxes?
Is there any other benefits?
>>159448703
You can join and leave FW any time with minimum fuss.
>joining fw
>not joining fw
what are some good eve race cups
i want to put my 50mn punisher to use
>FC says no
>"content"
>>159456608
There aren't any, because it would just come down to who had the most blingy gold magnate
>CNR
>TFI
pandemic horde, brave newbies inc, karmafleet, or brave newbros?
>>159469381
Karmafleet, but I'm biased here.
If not them, PH.
>>159469609
Is the karmafleet you're never going to undock meme true?
Also regarding PH, it seems like they are not as organized as say brave or especially karmafleet/goons?
I guess newbros/test is pretty much like PH?
>>159470075
It's a meme. I'm currently on a roam with a karmafleet FC, balls deep in providence, and things like this happen daily. (We just killed an orca sitting outside a pos. providence.png)
the heron is my shipfu
>SFI
>AII
caldari navy raven navy issue is proper garbage though, buff when
>>159470330
How active is KF in EU time zone?
Why don't they verify the API key on zkillboard? (compare https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98370861/ to https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98388312/, the green tick)
Their statistics seem a bit too good and that may the reason, as people have to manually upload kills and losses as they please.
>>159475109
I dunno about KF exclusive shit, but GSF have multiple fleets every day doing pretty much anything you care to think of.
And something something zkil is run by hostiles don't want to give out APIs, I assume. Goons are deeply paranoid about infosec.
>>159475436
I thought about joining dreddit, but I cannot be arsed to be active on reddit just to join a corp. I never really was in a crop up to now, except the usual 6 RL dudes corop I'm currently in. I have only experience with hauling and station trading, so I want to get into PvP, never was in low/nullsec either.
>I thought about joining dreddit
Dreddit is always recruiting.
>>159476776
Yeah, I know, the fucking dino memes suck pretty hard..
>>159476718
Yeah...go for KF. Station trading and industry is where I make my ISK in Delve, and while we're a bit light on pvp at home, there's roams and wormhole trips all the time.
>Coonswarm
>>159477224
It seems like the PvE industry parts are sort of the curse for us German players, we kind of flock to it.
>>159477224
I'm an IT specialist that's not too autistic, still like anime somehow (no weaboo though), will I fit in?
>ded
>cruises
Good choice
guess again m8
What happens if I join gayllente milita when my corp has a caldari highsec pos? Do cops blow it up?
>>159443643
Gotta weed out the brain dead from the dummies.
Now if you were talking about something that denies content like highsec war dec bullying I'd agree.
>>159439145
Choose how you want to fight first, in close range, or kiting. If you want to fight close range then your midslots would have a scram (to turn off microwarpdrives) and a web, and afterburner. I dont recommend this because tristans are pretty slow, and most of the damage come from drones which they can project easily.
This leads to kiting with microwarpdrive, which means you want to stay out of scram and web range while having a warp disrupter to prevent the enemy from warping out, nano's in the lowslot to get more speed and agi and you can just leave your high slots open.
>kiteshitters unironically
>tfw 300m sp pilot
>tfw haven't played in months
.-. when is xpac senpai
>bittervet
What BS for lv4s?
>newbro
Venture a qt3.14
>>159506615
Heela
fuck eog
fuck your dogs
fuck kitsunes
fuck newbros
fuck missions and wormholes
fuck highsec
fuck null
fuck linksec
fuckcaps
fuck wolfgirls
fuck you anon
fuck ventures
fuck pirates
fuck blood and blood raiders
fuck machariels
fuck cloaks
fuck bubbles and fuck condors
fuck ded
fuck caracals and cerberi
fuck your favorite ship
fuck pve
fuck coons
fuck goons
fuck pl
fuck russians
fuck blops
fuck lasers
fuck hybrids
fuck mines
fuck bombs and torps
fuck missiles and drones
but projectiles are ok
>>159509640
rude desu
>Page 10
Not even shitposting can keep this general alive
fuuuuck
guess i have to play more eve online now :DDD
Ancillary microwarpdrive when?
Overdrive injectors giving 25% resistance to webbing when?
Small microjumpdrives when?
people posting in this godforsaken general when?
>>159519601
When we have nothing to do ingame.
>>159481068
Sure.
anime is cartoons, etc.
What's the point of Jita scams? I mean 99% of the contracts posted in local is a scam.
Everybody knows it's a scam yet they keep posting it.
Please explain this phenomenon to me.
>page 10
>>159523752
it only has to work once
>>159523752
I mean if I'm going to sit around in Jita doing nothing I might as well just try to get something rolling right
>>159523752
honestly, for all the glory that is eve freedom, i still wish there was some incentive to not scam everybody you meet
>>159524147
You can't build a functional group if you scam literally everyone.
Plenty of people have scam alts for stealing from people who aren't in their corp/alliance, and there is no reason at all not to do this, but only retards steal from their own alliance.
>>159524291
that's a given though
i meant more in a general sense, what if there was a system in place that taxed incorrectly-made contracts or something
or skills to create falsified contracts and rewards for reporting those to concord, papers please style
>>159524765
That defeats the point of the game.
>>159524765
Tell us your opinions on wardecs, suicide ganking and afk cloaking too!
>>159524291
>but only people who are too dumb not to get caught steal from their own alliance.
fixed
>>159525063
Getting caught has nothing to do with it. You're undermining your own efforts by doing that. If you're stealing, it's not "your alliance", it's just some people you are stealing from.
>>159525063
Stealing everything not nailed down and jumping ship to PL is practically a rite of passage for test directors.
evemon is an unstable piece of shit. What other windows character tracker things exist?
>>159524991
wardecs are fine but could take some tweaking for the cost of keeping a wardec going (much higher initial cost to start a war, lower cost to keep the war going). i'm not terribly invested in salty hisec bears getting shat on though
suicide ganking is working as intended
afk cloaking is working as intended
Light Missiles V or Archaeology V ?
>>159526085
it depends
do you want to dig for gold or do you want to press F1 in your epin caracal?
>>159526504
I can't decide on it.
I really, really want to get hacking and archaeology out of the way and be done with scanning department
On other hand I want to use those T2 launchers
>>159526768
Just explore in an astero/covertops and the bonus should be more than enough. Especially with how they added that number thing for beneficial nodes.
>that number thing for beneficial nodes
what
>>159528212
After you uncover an empty node theres a number that pops up telling you how far away an uncovered beneficial node is (iirc it also includes the random node, which you shouldnt click because more often than not its a virus).
>>159528430
is that new or am I retarded
How would a scrub move large quantities of ore around in an efficient manner?
Jita's a long way from home is what I'm trying to say, and this badger's hold is smaller than my venture's ore hold
>>159528738
reprocess it locally then courier contract it. tayra can carry more than badger, if you're moving very low value stuff like ore
Are Amarr and Caldari t2 drones worth using now? Last I played it was all about Gallente drones and Warrior 2s but I think I remember hearing something about drone rebalancing before I left.
>>159528514
I think they added it when they removed the containers spewing all the loot everywhere
>>159528875
yes. I only use caldari and amarr drones. the buff wasn't that big, people are just shitters
>>159528875
Yes acolytes are legit cause they are the fastest drone. Warriors and hobs are still regularly used as well.
>>159528875
caldari drones are garbage
other drones are used a lot
>>159528738
kryos?
>>159529178
Wasps hit frigs the best if not using geckos
>>159528875
I use amarr/gallente in exporation.
>less than 50 posts per day
is all the cancer gone?
>>159209345
Jesus, doesn't that describe everyone who plays EVE?
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4897&b=7284341&e=90&t=uvfvvf
>They couldn't even kill the Vargur, Barghest or nightmare
>>159529178
your retarded kys
https://zkillboard.com/br/84583
WHITE STAG + PUPPER VICTORY
>>159531984
>>159531984
>blobbing this hard against a literal dozen of ships
>>159532626
not pictured: capitals
They probably would have brought the caps if HK didn't show up, actually, but we already invited them, so not letting them join up would be rude.
>your
who are you quoting????????????
Daily reminder that the Moros is the worst dread and the Nag is better than the moros in every field of the world
The moros can rep itself into infinity ehp, point invalid.
yeah but it doesn't have infinite ammo
amarr wins again
>>159536972
so can the nag
actually whats funny is a single nag shield booster out reps two reppers on a moros
>9 days left till new xpack
Why, time?
>>159537237
Why not time?
>meanwhile in White Stag
>>159540167
>>159541529
saved
you can expect me to post this picture whenever puppers are mentioned ever again in the future
I asked some moros fags why they fly it when a revelation or naglfar will do better applied damage and have better tank and cap
they unironically told me the moros is ok because it's better at shooting pos
>>159543116
It only does like 300 extra DPS when in siege
so both the nag and the moros do about 6400-6600 dps with siege 2 and the highest end guns with faction ammo and the moros does only 200 more dps than the nag
but 200 dps is literally insignificant when the nag's flavor damage will out pace it
hey when are supers and capitals in general getting buffed?
>>159545030
happened months ago m8
>>159543116
because moros was the best before the cap rebalance and some of us are still sitting on them
>>159545957
this pretty much
About how much of a difference do t2 guns make? I want to get into lv4 missions and can currently fly a Mach with a full t2 fit aside from guns, which would take me a while to train into. Is the difference big enough that I should wait until I can do t2 guns, too?
>>159546543
>t1 guns on a mach
Disgusting.
>>159546543
T1 guns are fine.
>>159546543
T2 guns do up to 10% more damage, they also have better range usually over T1
Also you get T2 ammo which is either high damage long range or high damage super short range.
>>159545030
they're getting buffed again on the 15th when their jump range gets increased from 5ly to 7ly
>log in
>all is quiet
>ship spin for a while
>log out
>hour later a fortizar pops up on zkill with familiar names
fuck sake
>>159547201
>buffing overpowered ships
ccpls
>>159547931
>massive multi-billion isk ships need to be weaker than subcaps
>>159548443
>implying any capital ship has ever not been overpowered
hehehe
>>159548979
idk dude the Moros is pretty bad
>>159551598
only compared to other caps
>>159547931
they aren't overpowered
they just got nerfed a few months ago, they can't RR and shit now
>>159553882
>muh slowcats
this did get fixed, but they're still overpowered
>>159553974
>they're still OP because I said so because I'm a massive faggot that doesn't understand how they work
>>159553974
shoot the fighters faggot
their torpedos can't hit shit they're literally worse than T2 rage torps out of a raven
>>159554037
how they work is you die to capitals unless you can drop capitals on the enemy capitals
>>159554212
lol
>>159554212
>oh I got blobbed
you died because you got blobbed and people ONLY commit these 30 and 100b behemoths in blobs because they're so expensive and not worth using solo ever.
Git fucking good, when you catch a carrier solo it melts easy peezy to subcaps
>>159554335
yeah, and I got blobbed because capitals can deploy instantly and you can't stop them, which is why they're overpowered
>>159554427
>they can deploy instantly
so can literally anything else, you probably bitch because you got ganked on a gate or something too
>and you can't stop them
you can't stop anything with a cyno and you probably bitch about blops too
>CCP pls I need an automatic off button on my ship to stop those cynos because I said so not because I'm a shitter I swear
>>159554427
nigga just don't go within 5ly of pl/nc/goon staging systems.
>I should be able to automatically stop cynos when I say so because I don't like getting blobbed by anything
Do you get mad when someone jumps a gate and gets away from you too?
>>159554565
>so can literally anything else
no, if I want to move my cruiser 10 jumps I need to move my cruiser 10 jumps. if I want to drop a carrier on someone or titan bridge them there's literally nothing they can do about it, and I don't need to be good at the game at all. there is no counterplay, it killed roaming pvp, and it's fucking cancer
>>159554785
>if I want to move my cruiser 10 jumps I need to move my cruiser 10 jumps.
what the fuck does this even mean?
get a scout nigger
>theres literally nothing I can do about it
KILL THE POS KILL THE CITADEL thats how you stop them faggot You are such a whiny bitch you think this is a mild arcade game where theres a rock paper scissor to everything and you ignore other solutions to stop your enemy logistically
>nothing I can do about it
shoot the pos or kill the cyno ship?
>no thats too hard for me they should automatically turn off
>>159554998
>kill the pos kill the citadel
I'd rather play the game than remove every pos and every citadel within jump range of anywhere I'd like to go. btw it's easier to put up shitty pos than it is to take them down
>to stop your enemy logistically
this is exactly what I want, and exactly what capital travel removes from the game
>Flying a frigate
>Get hotdropped
>Burn away and warp out before the capitals can lock you
wow so OP
>>159555249
So what is your suggestion beyond CCPLZ DELETE EVERY CAPITAL!!11 SHOOTING CYNO SHIPS IS 2HARD4ME
>>159555249
>wah this is a problem
>heres a solution to your problem
>I'd rather keep bitching about shit than do something about it.
>remove every pos
you don't have scouts? find out where they're bridging from? You're unimaginative as fuck. We have a huge list of where titans and supers are and the last time they logged on or were seen. You don't want to put effort into your content you want to bitch when someone doesn't do it for you or isn't spoon feeding you shit
>btw its easier to put up a pos than take one down
you really think that they're just gonna log on their supers without a POS being where they previously logged off? gitgud
>>159555397
yes, instapopping any ship in the game is pretty difficult because tanking exists
>>159555478
>heres the solution to your problem
>>the solution is fucking shit and also requires using capitals lol
>find out where they're bridging from
this is not a solution. you're fucked. they can drop on you anywhere anytime. you have to be on your toes watching them non-stop in case they feel like logging on and casually taking a dump on you. it's extremely unreasonable, and I'm amused that you take part in this gameplay and don't see it for how shitty it is
>you really think that they're just gonna log on their supers without a POS being where they previously logged off? gitgud
why the fuck would they let the pos die before jumping their shit out? are you retarded?
>>159555726
>>>the solution is fucking shit and also requires using capitals lol
You don't need capitals to bash a pos or citadel you stupid faggot.
You can't even make up a good rebutal, every solution you just go "I can't do that because I don't wanna put in ANY effort"
>you have to be on your toes watching them
>warp cloaky to a pos,
>oh thats where they bridge out of
>keep eyes on pos, note the moon and the character
no but apparently thats TOO hard for you.
Your entire post is literally "gimme gimme no I don't wanna work for anything"
>they'll jump them out before the POS dies!
congrats you stopped them from dropping on you by killing their pos off.
>omg I shouldn't even have to log on to stop these caps
>shooting the cyno ship? way too much effort
>>159556174
>no but apparently thats TOO hard for you.
having to have characters in every group's staging system just because they have a titan and some caps is pretty retarded, yes
do you not see that it's shitty for everyone? my group bridges and blobs. we watch other people doing the same thing. do you think it all cancels out and means the game is fun again? it's not, lowsec is completely dead. nobody roams anywhere because of all the bridge/blob shitters who just react to other people doing things. I want you to get good. I want my people to get good. it's not about effort, you retard. it's about being good at the game, and having counterplay. we all have titan bridges and caps ready to go, and now the game is shit for everyone
>>shooting the cyno ship? way too much effort
we already talked about this. having enough alpha to instapop any ship in the game is quite a lot of effort, and I can't believe you think it's reasonable to have to do this all the time
>>159556598
>oh my god I have to put in EFFORT to stop an entire enemy fleet
you are a lazy nigger
>thats shitty for everyone
no its not, because everyone else is gitting good and going out of their way to stop this shit and you aren't doing anything but bitching
>>159556747
and what effort are the enemy fleet putting in? what skill are they exerting by lighting a cyno and bridging? is that titan they're benefitting from exposed to any risk? there's just nothing. it's garbage. 0/10 shit tier gameplay making everything worse
>everyone else is getting good
you don't need to be good at eve when capitals are involved
Just roam in wormholes nigga
>get into relic sites
>get a covops
>this is pretty boring
>put a scram and one (1) autocannon on it
>mfw other relicniggers never expect it
>mfw i don't even care i'm a shitter
>>159557595
absolute madman
i should try that some time
>>159557992
>>159557595
>ywn be this happy over the most basic shit
>>159557992
astero have drones so they can fuck your ass all the same. most people fly astero. but when they don't it's gold
**i'm too antisocial to join a corp, so i stick to doing everything solo**
>>159557595
a bunch of the t1s have sick dps from drones
>>159558247
somehow it never crossed my mind to fit a gun and scram on an exploration frigate
>>159558596
>no cloak
ONE (1) auto cannon
>not one (one[1])arty
>>159559620
What do you need a cloak for you pussy
>>159560023
so the other guy doesn't just cloak and warp out when you show up on dscan
>>159559620
i thought that was so basic I didn't need to mention. but there's cloak, yes
>>159557001
The effort they put into supporting and upkeep in, maintaining their massive fleet and organization.
The enemy has put in a fuck ton more effort to be able to do what they wanna do and you BEING lazy little cunt wants an automatic off button because youre too much of a loser to try and put in any effort to match your enemy so you sit here and bitch
>>159560696
You can't put a covert ops cloak on a probe, you're going to show up on d before you land anyway.
>>159561271
there's no risk. they aren't doing anything skillfulI'm actually playing the game btw, not 'sitching here and bitching'
>>159561575
>they aren't doing it because I said so
>ccp please give me an off button
>>159562173
>ccp please give me an off button
how about some counterplay and risk for your f1 teleport i win no skill button?
lol @ you having skill
>>159562338
i'm more skill thanm you))))
you have less skill points ))))
>>159562338
>ccp I need to press f1 and stop cyno s it'd not fair and anything I don't wanna do is too hard because I don't wanna put any effort in
>>159562338
Just put up a fucking cyno inhib and krab harder.
>>159562629
cyno inhibs never stopped anyone hotdropping, they're extremely limited. the way you can't overlap them, you can use them to prevent other people using them
if you could spit out cyno inhib bubbles like a dictor does warp bubbles I'd be pretty happy. they'd also need to disable any active cynos within the aoe
>>159562509
>hurr too hard I don't wanna put any effort in
this sounds kind of like the people complaining about the jump range reductions and fatigue
oneiros
>>159564625
>"it's good because you don't have to cap chain, and it's 0.1% faster"
gistii
is anyone watching this eve nt tournament thing
I'm too lazy to figure out the rules
>>159567967
>rules: no fun allowed
>>159568060
>having to listen to apothne and rahne
>still no new zkill guide
>As such, the Talwar does not come equipped to hang around forever on the battlefield. It is built to rush around at speed without getting caught, and to hit very hard and very, very fast.
>1723m/s
>omg why doesn't everything go 4k cold
>Waffles in local
initiated compact warp scrambler
parallel enduring target painter
>eris
>Rifter
>50mn digital booster microwarpdrive
>Iceland
Any of the $5 content packs for trial accounts way better or way worse than the others?
>>159577679
don't bother, they're all shit you can get from the tutorial anyway afaik.
>content packs
>dark blood quad light beam laser
>>159580116
I wish they'd make faction guns more popular, they cost a lot to produce and the tags are really rare
>>159577785
>>159577776
I've got $6 from an old giftcard lying around and thought it would be nice to extend my trial past another payday.
>>159584763
I think ccp said something about allowing them to use t2 ammo but idk what happened with that
>>159585290
They're all pretty basic stuff probably only worth a mill or two, which is basically nothing. Just pick whichever one you think fits your playstyle best.
stabber
>arbitrator
>ban gambling
>have an event in Las Vegas
>ban prostitution
>have an event in Amsterdam
>ban sick banter
>have an event in Australia
What did they mean by these?
Really makes me think...
>>159601362
double standards are the prime jewel of libcucks
>>159603218
>t. IWI banker, erp faggot, and shitposter
>>159603389
.T Libcuck
>>159603463
>t. projector
>>159603583
>libcucks
>>159601362
>covering your own asses from the variety of dumb laws they have to adhere to being an international game
>abloo abloo I wanna gamble and have erotic role play with other fat nerds
>opinion differs from mine
C-KEK!!
>amarr
>>159209156
3/14 day trial in, done missions so I'm looking for new shit to do, I haven't found a corp besides the default. I'd love to run space trucker sim hauling, but seems like a shitty deal with contracts (You get a whopping 15,000 ISK, collateral is 3mil) and buy/sell only shows regional, which rarely have a worthwhile margin.
Next best things I've enjoyed from the missions were mining, industry, and exploration. Industry seems terrible for isk, people make shit a lot cheaper than I am. No idea how to get gud at exploration, been mining in high sec and turning it over to buy orders, but I want more ISK/hr.
Thinking about heading to low/null sec and mining ore that I can sell for more, I have two ventures so I can afford to lose one, and was thinking with insurance it'd probably be worth it. Bad idea or horrible? Suggestions?
>>159611943
Mining in a venture (even in low/null) will net you so little money that it isn't funny. Exploration will get you more. This said, you can combine the two things and use the venture to huff gas. I think venture huffing in a wormhole can get you 100m/h or some shit.
>>159611943
Join Pupper Appreciation Station or All-Out, they'll give you money and get you sorted. Don't mine, it's a fucking waste of time.
>>159443643
i just started playing this week, grand total of 600k sp
so far, i have:
>made my first couple mil by diving into a wormhole immediately
>invited by a 'newbro corp' to learn pvp, which they taught by podding me
>got scammed out of that first couple mil
>chilled exploring for hours to various metroid osts
>hauled things around pretending im firefly
>got a 1.5m bounty on my head for implying in local chat
>been unable to figure out how to make a remotely fucking functional overview/scan
save for some UI grievances this is exactly what i expected going into EVE and more, i'm genuinely having a blast
ill join your cop too if you wanna trick me into a gank like all the others
>>159615027
Just go to pupper or all out.
The last time someone awoxed someone else was when one guy killed his own alt to get to Jita faster.
Although, there were instances of people sperging so hard we were on the edge of calling primary on them just to get them to stop being retarded.
>>159615027
Come slurp up our c2 relics its not like we run them.
>>159615695
>Just go to pupper or all out.
do not do this
>>159615695
i have no idea what you just said
>>159616848
I said go join all-out or pupper appreciation station because we don't cheat our own members.
>>159617063
>pupper appreciation station because we don't cheat our own members
HAHAHAHAHA
>>159615772
>Not joining Pupper
>>159617208
HAHAHHAHAHA
Who is Pupper?
>pupper's biggest "sucess" is whoring on fortizar that was already being whored on by white stag "HK fuccbois" exit bag
http://pastebin.com/z3Gh1ZZd
>pupper
>>159617460
>whored on
>top damage
at least get your facts straight fampai
Yes whored
you did not find it
you could not do it alone
neck yourself conno
>implying whitefags could do it when they have to call papa hardcock everytime for bash
Doesn't change anything
also implying whitestag
>>159617385
It's a pet word for a puppy.
>>159617650
t. butthurt fag
>>159617650
>Whitefags shows up to a respectable and elite pupper fortizar bash.
>pupper scouts have been gather intel for months and have everything perfectly planned to the T.
>Whitefags sperging endlessly on comms while deepthroating their mics with their assholes.
>puppers maintain perfect comms discipline and push forward as everything goes to plan.
>whitefag fc hears a dog bark on comms, panics
>immediately stops smearing shit on his screen and presses his 4 different keyboard macroes to call for HK.
>HK decloaks a 500-man Mach fleet
>immediately wipes out the 3 caracals and venture that was fielded by the NRDS mining corp whose Fortizar we were assaulting.
>HK begins breathing exercises with Whitefags to help them enter their safe space and stop hyperventilating.
>HK kisses whitefags on the forehead and hands them their bag lunches before leaving.
>>159618994
>>159603865
>>159603650
>>159603463
>>159603218
>t. faggot numale cucks
>>159619087
Why'd you reply to my post.
both your corps sound retarded
>>159619543
>goes into meme central where people meme about things
>why does this thing you are memeing about sound like a meme?
>fleet fight is over
>the americans start clapping on comms
>cant hear the FC
>ONI
Resistance penetrating ammunition when?
>>159625386
Wouldn't that diminish the point of having resistances?
>>159625713
yes
it would become an era of polarized+penetration ammo+plates
plates everywhere
plate rep would be unironically a thing
>pupplets
>pupper appreciation station
>station
>they don't own their own station, or even citadel
>>159618994
>>159626345
It's a dumb idea there's nothing wrong with the way resists work now. No point or need for some gimmick like penetrating resist
>>159626345
plate rep already is unironically a thing m8
>>159615027
>>got scammed out of that first couple mil
This is your fault, all shapes can be avoided by simply reading them you fuckin cuck
>>159629329
No its not its a dumb meme from this shit to general from a bunch of retards who shit post vehemently
>>159629426
he didn't sound all that remorseful anon, what exactly are you worked up over?_____________:^)______________
>>159629505
plate rep is high tier get good
>>159630378
especially with T3 resist penetrating ammo
so i started a 4 month skill queue and have 6 months of game time but i'm wondering if i don't log in a certain number of times it might .. stop?
i'm sure it won't but i do worry about that kind of shit. can i safely leave it for months or should i log in at least once a month?
>>159634643
you can safely leave it for 6 months and never resub and when you resub you will have that precious skill that didn't really matter anyways
>>159612342
Alright, how do I manage to get into wormholes? I have a bit, waiting on mining 4, then gas mining. Looked up some fits, it's recommending cloaking, but since I can't grab that skill till I cave and buy plex is it fine without? I can afford the rest:
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
5MN Y-T8 Compact MWD
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
2x Gas Cloud Harvester I's
3x Small Core Defense Field Extender
Do people use the logistic frigates?
>>159642259
only in frigate gangs and aids gangs. frigate gangs are rare because eve is broken, I guess a few people run svipul or jackdaw aids gangs
>>159618994
grats you wrote a paragraph to a 5 second shitpost to make yourself feel better.
>>159642312
No frig gangs don't exist because they're literally bottom of the tier
I can just do a destroyer gang and that'll shit on frig gangs
I can just do a cruiser gang that'll shit on destroyer and frig gangs too
This isn't broken at all equal number frigs should not be able to take on cruisers or destroyers
>>159645990
>cruisers applying full cruiser dps to frigates with zero investment in application
>destroyers going slower than cruisers
>This isn't broken at all
>>159642259
Yes they're especially useful for t2 frigs and t3d fleets
If you're doing t1 frigs then use the t1 logi frig
>>159646225
There isn't any thing broken
Cruisers don't apply full dps to frigs you faggot medium guns aren't 100% amazing at hitting frigs
You're just whining that your shit to frig gang can't kill equal number cruisers that out does your fleet in tank, dps, and cost
>>159646413
>what is rapid lights
>what are webs
and if you're ok with 1.5km/s destroyers then seriously kys
>>15964671
>cherry picked weapon systems that is a frig weapon system
>Muh destroyers are slow
And yet equal numbers frigs vs destroyers destroyers would win every single time
>>159646716
>webs Magically mean my heavy neutron blasters and pulses apply 100%
Yes cruisers shit on frigs like they're supposed to. There isn't supposed to be some intergalactic between ship tiers
You're probably a whiny bitch about a battleship absolutely sitting on cruisers too aren't you?
>>159647176
>like they're supposed to
no, only destroyers are specifically meant to be an anti-frigate class
>battleship shitting on cruisers
yes, there is not enough opportunity for damage mitigation in brawling. webs ruin it at all levels of combat. grapplers are even more retarded
>You're probably a whiny bitch
you're retarded
>>159647391
You're bitching about literally every in between because you don't like it
Face it you're a whiny bitch because your shit frig gang got shit on by a superior cruiser gang
No amount of "you're retarded. Kys" whiny attitude will fix shit that isnt broken
>webs ruin it at all levels of combat. grapplers are even more retarded
>>159647391
>no, only destroyers are specifically meant to be an anti-frigate class
Nowhere is this ever implied its a made up role people juxtaposed on destroyers
>>159647669
>because you don't like it
no it's because of the reasons I said
your idea of 'more expensive beats less expensive every time' is garbage and you completely miss the nuance the combat is supposed to have. ships should have a purpose and not be made obsolete by every larger class
>>159647792
you're actually even more retarded
>ships should have a purpose and not be made obsolete by every larger class
>>159647691
to be honest, webs do kind of ruin brawling to some extentit would be fixed if overdrive injectors gave you a 25% resistance to webbing, with stacking penalty
>>159648090
>no it's because of the reasons I said
Your reasons don't explain or extrapolate any imbalance with the game you're just bitching about a non issue because you think it's unbalanced when it's not. This is the way the game is meant to be since literally 10 years or more ago
>>159648090
>you're actually even more retarded
Not an argument
The meme that destroyers are antifreeze is completely made up
>waa webs wont let me kite
>>159648478
they do, learn to read
>>159648614
>Noticing the alarming increase in Minmatar frigate fleets, the Imperial Navy made its plans for the Coercer, a vessel designed specifically to seek and destroy the droves of fast-moving frigate rebels.
>Ideally suited for both skirmish warfare and fleet support, the Catalyst is touted as one of the best anti-frigate platforms out there. Faced with its top-of-the-line tracking equipment, not many can argue.
>Engineered as a supplement to its big brother the Cyclone, the Thrasher's tremendous turret capabilities and advanced tracking computers allow it to protect its larger counterpart from smaller, faster menaces.kys
>>159648783
>>Noticing the alarming increase in Minmatar frigate fleets, the Imperial Navy made its plans for the Coercer, a vessel designed specifically to seek and destroy the droves of fast-moving frigate rebels.
You realize the lore has little bearing over the balance of the game right?
What ever happened to that amarr Terran super weapon?
Why aren't the apocalypse shields better than the caldari shields?
What ever happened to the amarr lasers melting through armor of minister hulls?
You can cherry pick references in lore and it literally has no bearing over the balance faggot
>>159649224
go on then, explain how destroyers are not anti-frigate
>>159649314
Not my job to prove your shit wrong, the burden of proof is on you to prove that somehow a cruiser isn't allowed to shit on a destroyer or frig
You're just a whiny ass bitch who got killed in a frig by a vexor or somrthing and somehow this is webs fault
>>159649314
because a frigate can literally fit more tank
>>159649575
that makes no difference
>>159649570
>the burden of proof is on you
>the description literally says they are for killing frigates
>they have huge bonuses to damage application with frigate guns
>>159649932
>destroyer can fit barely any tank and only a prop and scram
>frigate can fit flavor ewar, tank, web, basically anything to give it the edge
let me hear you go MUH 25% INCREASED DPS
>>159650375
>destroyer is focused entirely on shooting frigates
>anon somehow construes this as destroyers not being anti-frigate, because they can't fit enough ewar or something
>>159649932
>>the description literally says they are for killing frigates
By this logic that means the apoc is a shield ship because the description says it's shields are better than caldari
>>159651450
that's the apocalypse navy issue. it also says it has good armour. its shields are larger than t1 shield battleships though, having lots of hp is one of the main benefits factions ships have
>>159651637
It has less shield hp compared to the caldari navy faction battleships
>>159652139
that doesn't matter, and nobody said otherwise
>>159652247
Oh but that upsets the balance because the description says what ship it's supposed to be like
Nice cognitive dissonance
>see this description says it's supposed to be like
>but not that one it doesn't count
>>159652343
all the description says is it has a lot of shield, which is does. it's you who misinterprets that to mean 'it's supposed to be shield tanked', because you're retarded
>>159652536
You could misinterpret the supposed balance between frigs and cruisers by being a little whiny bitch too but golly what do I know basing conjecture off of lore shit that has no basis to begin with
You realize that each race has a lower tier weapon system designed to smack down a tier right?
For example minister cruisers have dual 180mm guns that have frig range and application
The battleships have it too with dual 650mm repeating cannons to hit cruisers
>>159652850
When was the last time you saw anyone fit those things though? RLML, sure, but dual 180s?
>>159652850
>designed to smack down a tier
do you realise the difference in tracking between sizes? it's about 10x. going down from ions to electrons or whatever is only like 10%, it's nothing. this is the tracking you want to hit same ship classes better, it's about right for the shorter range you get from these lower tier guns. dual 180mm guns absolutely do not have frig range or application, you're way off. just look at the numbers and you'll see how much of a faggot you are
>>159642208
I can't speak to the ability of your ship to mine gas (I don't do any mining), but most of what I do is day tripping in and out of holes with my corp hunting whatever we can find.
You can go into a wormhole without a cloak. Personally I wouldn't, but you can. You just need to be extra careful because you are putting yourself at a disadvantage.
1- Be sure that you choose systems not close to trade hubs to scan down holes (if you are in a hole close to systems like Jita or Amarr, someone like me already has the gas sites scanned down and you will never see them coming). Always bookmark both the inside and outside of the hole.
2- Scan down sites from a safe bookmark so that nothing can warp to you on grid. Look up how to make safe spots if you are not sure, this is important.
3- Always DScan. Your D-Scan overview should have all ships and scan probe types. Even if you are at a safe bookmark, you need to dscan because you are uncloaked and skilled dscanners will only have their combat probes out for a few seconds before they have scanned you down and are warping to you.
4- Know that wormholes are unpredictable and that you will lose ships. Especially in wormhole space, only fly what you can afford to lose.
5- Make training into cloaking a top priority. If you plan on going into wormholes, scanning skills will also be extremely important and will make your life soooo much better.
Also, consider using a scanning strength bonused ship to do your scanning. If you are a newer character, scanning down sigs in an unbonused ship in a wormhole can be awful. Fit up a cheap T1 exploration frigate in whatever race you have the highest level trained and bookmark the sites and come back in your venture to run them. Good luck out there.
>namefag
>>159642208
you need a probe launcher to probe wormholes and gas sites
you should focus more on mobility than tank. keep the medium extender, but do something like a warp stab with polycarbons
>>159653309
>it's about 10x.
No its only 2x for the difference on equivocal gun references
For example dual 150mm guns on a cruiser have half the tracking of 150mm rails on a frigate. This pattern is found all the way up the weapon line
>>159657819
where do you get this shit from? dual 150s are 6.125x the tracking of 150s
>>159657947other way around obviously lol
>>159657947
The way you wrote this says that the dual 150mm have 6 times the tracking
When incorporated into the tracking formula it comes out to 2x. It's the same before weapon accuracy score is just a unit conversion and the formula was compressed to no long account for signature resolution vs tracking speed.
>>159658102
no, it comes out as what I said it does. it's only half the tracking if you pretend sig radius doesn't matter, which is wrong because it does
>>159658102
why did they change the readout to weapon accuracy score, anyways
fucking retarded
>>159658213
No it doesn't you're just comparing tracking instead of using the tracking formula to calculate the chance of hit which is the real comparison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtcaQe4Gyo
>>159658993
So that you can compare weapons between tiers more easily
Because before 3r/s on a cruiser weapon was not the same as 3r/s on a frig weapon because of the facto of signature resolution.
>>159659015
nope. weapon accuracy score factors in sig
>>159658993
it's not retarded, you can very easily compare different weapons now. before you had to do tracking / sig res, and then the number would be like 0.00003
>>159659151
>>159659195
they really should have included the base scores and the aggregate score instead of hiding the two base scores
>>159656262
balls. literally my first post in years, that name was from when I posted in /o/ in like 2011.
>>159659345
there's not really any reason to do that. the tracking speed on its own is a meaningless number
>newfag
kys
>>159659446
but it's still nice to know
>>159659195
>nope. weapon accuracy score factors in sig
Signature resolution, not radius. For all intents and purposes every gun in eve now had the same signature resolution of 40000m
>>159659621
yes, signature resolution. that's the number that is relevant. it's factored in. 150mm rails have 6x the effective tracking of d150s
which alliance should i join as an alpha clone tohave fun?
>>159660265
Goons, PH, maybe test.
Alternatively, pupper appreciation society.
>Karmafleet
kevin
>>159313486
Cute!
>Enter wormhole looking for a nullsec hole to get a fight
>all 7 sigs are wormholes, but the null holes are all for small ships only
I don't know if I'm lucky or not
>>159665297
If literally all of them are frig holes, you found a c13.
They generally have a bunch of random sites, so it's strange that this one has holes only.
>>159665453
It was a c2
There was actually a relic site too, but I couldn't be bothered to mention it
make a new thread you fags
>>159665926
you do it
Kevin.