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/sthg/ - Sonic The Hedgehog General

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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General. Let's talk about Sonic games, old and new, and the entire franchise including animation and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, and more!

/sthg/ #604 - Gone Fishing Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>News/Developments<
Tails & Knuckles gameplay in Sonic Mania, & Mirage Saloon revealed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al0GFfRfq9w [Embed]

Sonic Boom Season 2 Premiered Oct 29th! Now Airing on CN.

Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed is Now Backwards Compatible with Xbox One
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/10/sonic-all-stars-racing-transformed-is-now-backwards-compatible-with-xbox-one/

Iizuka On Sonic Twitch Stream: “Sonic Mania Will Have More Classic Levels Than New Ones”
http://www.tssznews.com/2016/09/20/iizuka-on-sonic-twitch-stream-sonic-mania-will-have-more-classic-levels-than-new-ones/

Iizuka States Project 2017 Stars New Character:
http://twitter.com/PushDustIn/status/792004664317194240

SAGE 2016 Booths
http://www.sonicfangameshq.com/SAGE/2016/category/booths/

>Recent and Upcoming Releases<
Sonic Utopia Reveal Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5paaz16Nw20 [Embed] - Download in description.

Bump in Sonic 1 v0.1
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/x5kpc8IZ/file.html

Sonic World R7
https://sonicworldfangame.com/downloads

The Sonic X seasons 1 and 2 collection will be released November 8th. Season 3 on December 6th.

Sonic Boom Season 1 can be watched here:
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/sonic-boom
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ribbit
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>>159196643
Wouldn't adding more humans instead give you the same results? Besides, "fapbait" isn't detrimental to any game as long as you're able to ignore it.

>>159196752
If I had a nickel every time one of you says SEGA's decisions are black or white, I'd be richer than Richie Rich.
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>>159197182
In this case it should be black-and-white: either add new everything or don't add anything. This is for the reason I gave, which is that Sonic and the other animals would eventually become less and less special as the animal cast was crowded out while Eggman became more and more special (and more stagnant and boring) by comparison. This conversation chain is in response to people who replace humans with animals and the statement that doing so should appeal to classicfags, which is false and logically suspect.
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why did sega have a random fascination to give sonic waifu bait after 06 til black knight anyway?
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I like Sonic games!
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>>159197637
Because Japan likes cute waifus. Probably literally the only reason.
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>>159197009
Alright I had enough of you little shit

BLAST BURN
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>>159197409
Be honest: what (besides Mania obviously) DOES appeal to classicfags, anyways? All I've ever heard of those self-proclaimed knights of the animal mascot 2D platformer is vicious pleading to destroy pretty much everything redeeming about 3D Sonic besides the ability to run and jump.
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>>159197349
A Mario Universe comic that gave the sub-series their own adventures would be great if handled right.

>Wario Land and Warioware
>Donkey Kong Country
>Yoshi

And then there's all the times Mario and Sonic have crossed over for the Olympic games.
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>>159197716
K.
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>>159197782
>All I've ever heard of those self-proclaimed knights of the animal mascot 2D platformer is vicious pleading to destroy pretty much everything redeeming about 3D Sonic besides the ability to run and jump.
What redeeming aspects are there
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>>159197837
>DK Universe
Now I want Cranky to tear apart 06 and Shadow the Hedgehog in an Archie Comic
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>>159197837
What about a Kirby comic? Ian's a huge continuityfag, so Kirby would basically be nirvana for him, since it's got the most DEEPEST LORE of any Nintendo franchise not named Pokemon
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>>159197782
The stereotypical classicfag wants the games to be exactly like the 2D games while hypocritically ignoring that the 2D games innovated with every installment. But said classicfags would oppose the existence of new characters period, especially a hedgehog princess brought in as a love interest, not just new humans.
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>>159197837
The world of WarioWare is so surreal when you realize it must take place on the same planet as the Mushroom Kingdom.
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After Mania I think we should get a hand drawn game like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibKf66tVoFw

Get Tyson to do the art and release a smooth game like this and maybe make it a paper sonic game? And then we can go back to pixels if everyone agrees. I'd rather we not do a mega man 9 and 10 with mania and mania 2 right after each other to avoid people getting sick of pixels.

But mostly I want to see a tyson arted game like the new wonder boy remake.
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>>159197837
>>Yoshi
Don't get me wrong, I like Yoshi and would love a comic starring him, but can he even handle a comic without Babies being the focus? I kind of disliked the baby characters besides the Baby Bros. themselves.
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>>159197908
>The ability to control the camera so you can see more than half a screen in front of you
>More than four directions for you to explore levels in
>Music that isn't limited to (or emulating) 32-bit sound chips
>Larger array of special abilities and control schemes as opposed to three/four buttons
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>>159198003
That would've been great, but wouldn't it make a lot more sense for Cranky to tear apart whatever is considered bad in the Mario series and the related ones?
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I already storytimed Mega Drive on /v/ so I don't feel like doing it again, but if no one else will I might.
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>>159197908
3D movement in general and an expanded control scheme are big improvements to the Sonic formula, regardless of how well they've been implemented. Higher fidelity graphics have given us some gorgeous landscapes to romp around in for the boost trilogy, and CD-quality audio has given unlimited possibilities when it comes to great music. Incorporation of parkour elements can greatly improve the classic mentality of continually-flowing movement across obstacle courses.

Absolutely the 3D games have been flawed in their execution, even the good ones, but that doesn't mean they haven't added anything that can't be improved upon in future installments.
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>>159198158
Focus on the inherent racism of the Yoshi species
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>>159198442
>can't be improved upon in future installments.
It's been two decades, when are they going to actually improve?
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>>159198547
Never. They should do what HAL did with Kirby and stick to 2D and just keep working on that since HAL at least knows they won't make 3D Kirby work
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>>159198547
The easiest thing SEGA could accomplish in improving the 3D games is firing Pontaff and changing the narrative to something a little less Fischer-Price.
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>>159198423
The entire idea behind Cranky's character is calling out ALL modern games for their bullshit
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>>159198547
When the franchise isn't hampered by needing to be a cash cow to bail its owners out from self-induced financial retardation, or helmed by an idiot who has no idea what made the games popular to begin with. Those two issues have encompassed Sonic's entire modern run save for maybe Unleashed, if even that.
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>>159198674
>The easiest thing SEGA could accomplish in improving the 3D games is firing Pontaff and changing the narrative to something a little less Fischer-Price.
Or how about just having it be Sonic vs Eggman with no dialogue or cutscenes? Just play it really safe for a while if they want to continue going 3D. That's what Sonic needs to do: take things back to their roots, play it safe, and then gradually work it back up to things like a story and other characters. OR Stick to 2D for now with Mania and such, and try 3D again in a few years
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>>159198089
And then it's even more surreal when they constantly cross-over into the real world to compete in the Olympics with denizens of the Sonic universe.
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>>159198914
This, S3&K had the best story of any Sonic game and it was told without a single piece of dialogue or text box.
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>>159198914
Hey, it's "play it safe" anon! Have you hit a milestone for how many times you've uttered that phrase yet, 'cause I feel like you have and we should celebrate your mental broken record.
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>>159198924
when the fuck will they kill Rosalina?
She ruined the Mario series
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>>159198914
Because every modern game worth a game, even colorful "rated E for Everyone" platformers have a story these days, or they're niche titles that are lucky to sell a hundred thousand copies. Mania will be an exception, and it will be well-deserved, but unless Sonic Team follows up with solid 3D games with at least decent stories then subsequent Mania-esque games will sell progressively less until nobody cares anymore.
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>>159199210
Listen, I know you've had a great time spewing out the same tired opinion almost every thread, but me and the rest of these actual posters were having a real, honest discussion before you showed up, so could you perhaps tone down the autism until we finish? Or just, stop entirely?
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>>159199293
i disagree
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>>159198434
Just link it to us
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>>159199652
/co/ thread
>>>/co/87420364
/v/ thread
>>>/v/356661148
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>>159199823
>The Sonic general was the last place to storytime a Sonic comic based off of the classic games
Where am I, fucking Bizarro 4chan
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Im still waitin for my sonic new fighting game
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>>159199928
was story timed last thread
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>>159198685
>>159198003
You know, these would sound like something a classicfag shitposter would say with the whole "back when Sonic was good, he doesn't need shitty friends"
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>>159199971
No it wasn't. 288 was done 2 threads ago, but nobody did Mega Drive
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Cubs win
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>>159199976
Cranky would know the core gameplay is what ruined modern Sonic, not his friends
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>>159200023
>Sports
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>>159199928
/vg/ has garbage posting times
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>>159200598
im slighty scared to ask.....
link?
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>>159199929
Whoa. What is this from?
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>>159200963
Rafa Knight
the lady who made the 3d renders for Archie
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>>159200963
heres a link to her tumblr

http://rafaknight-rk.tumblr.com/post/142911252275/hmmi-found-an-old-thing-what-could-be-that
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>>159201298
Damn, she has a good eye for detail. I want this fake game to be a real game, despite the nagging feeling that the touchscreen is a little useless.
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>>159200939
Dude. Its Manyakis Tumblr.
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>>159201456
hey on the bright side this time next year dual screens problebly wont be a thing anymore
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>>159201670
About time.
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Oh what the hell
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>>159201852
Nah. There's plenty of storytimes up and people checked them out, no need to waste the thread images.
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Stop making threads early
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>>159201852

Go for it if ya want.
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>>159202108
This thread was early?
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>>159201852
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>>159202108
>Last thread was at 749 posts when this one was made
>early

Shut the fuck up.
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>>159202350
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>>159202468
>2 minute wait times between posts

what the fuck is this bullshit
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>>159202468
just noticed Amy is holding her skirt down
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>>159200939
>>159201640
http://manyakisart.tumblr.com/
Its from the same dude that did the Clean what if the "Amazing world of Gumball was an anime" and the dirty. Mike Inel

I wished people would stop posting the comics images in over 1 MB. Its too much to wait on my throttled 17.9 kbps internet
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>>159202595
Why wouldn't she?
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>>159202591
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>>159202697
why the fuck would you were a skirt if you're going on an adventure
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>>159202717
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If Taxman gets to do a Mania sequel or follow up, I hope they use high-res hand drawn sprites like in Mega Drive instead of more sprites.

Nothing against sprites, I just REALLY want to see a game in Hesses art style now.
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>>159202836
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>>159202595
Tails, I never thought you'd stoop that low.
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>>159202982
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>>159202468
>>159202595
the fucking robot is looking up her skirt!
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>>159202717
I really love these shots of everyone going through the levels.
All things considered, I'd have loved for mania to be able to mix and match partners like Advance 3. That'd have been neat.
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>>159203174
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>>159202982
"I'm supposed to be the fastest thing alive. But I wasn't fast enough to defeat that robot."
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>>159203309
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>>159203290
dude....everyone has if youve ever played as Amy
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>>159203436
"bright idea" knux
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>>159200162
Someone need to make an edit of Cranky complaining or calling out the bullshits in the Sonic series
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>>159203436
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>>159203290
Wouldn't be the first pervbot Eggman made.
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>>159203537
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>>159203537
Does anyone else vividly hear the "piko" sound when they read it?
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>>159203642
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>>159203663
Well when your weapon is basically modeled like a squeaky toy hammer it's kinda hard NOT to hear it.
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>>159203787
Lonely Zone Act 1.
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>>159203787
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So is Amy as strong as Knuckles?
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>>159203912
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>>159203436
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>>159204035
>Parkour
So long as you don't sacrifice your ability to go fast and all pretense of momentum.
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>>159204035
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>>159204035
I love how Eruption Ruin "reuses" the graphics and mini-boss of Cascade Temple. Really makes it feel like the Hill Top of Mega Drive.
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>>159203965
Maybe, but probably lesser than him I imagined
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>>159203965
I like to imagine, raw strength she could probably give him a run for his money but Knuckles knows a lot more martial arts. He probably still has the edge strength wise, though.

Something like
Arm wrestling or bare knuckle brawl :Knuckles
Piko Piko vs Fist head on: Equal
Full on no holds barred fight: Knuckles.

Amy's strength mostly comes from how hard she can swign her hammer around.
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Imagine if the people in Sonic Unleashed pulled off riots after the World Series finale
http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/763/web
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>>159204275
Anyone else reminded of the Alabasta bomb scene from One Piece?
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>>159204315
Im not sure Amy is into multiple heads
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>>159204513
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>>159204642
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>>159204513
Whoa.

Deja vu
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>>159204752
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>>159204864
Oh Shit. Tails just got knocked the FUCK OUT.
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>>159204864
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>>159204391
Wait....What? Theres a RIOT?
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>>159204864
Amy, when this adventure started you said you wouldn't let this happen again.
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>>159205137
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>>159205137
>Egg Carton ship
>Clouds in Knuckles' face
I love this comic
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>>159205263
This comic is fucking beautiful.
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>>159205513
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>>159204864
Metal loves to make a flashy entrance.
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Okay. Favorite stages from each game mates.
Or just favorite stages of all time.
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>>159205650
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Damn, it's getting late now. I'm heading to bed. Night, /sthg/
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>>159205796
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>>159205741
Green Hill Zone
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>>159205990
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>>159205796
LET'S SEE YOU GRIT THOSE TEETH.
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>>159206389
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>>159206119
Oh Amy
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>>159206498
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>>159206498
Best off-panel, besides the first one in this series.
Also, do my eyes deceived me or is Vincent's style similar to thweatted/back2soul's?
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http://en.sonicscanf.org/comics/

P A N I C
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>>159206737
probably maintenance
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>>159205796
They're committing rape.
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>>159205741
>Sonic 1
Spring Yard Zone
>Sonic 2
Mystic Cave Zone
>Sonic CD
Stardust Speedway
>Sonic 3
Angel Island Zone
>Sonic & Knuckles
Lava Reef Zone
>Sonic Adventure
Windy Valley
>Sonic Adventure 2
White Jungle
>Sonic Heroes
Hang Castle
>Sonic Advance 2
Music Plant
>Sonic Advance 3
Chaos Angel
>Sonic Rush Adventure
Coral Cove
>Sonic 4
Splash hill (I can't remember that game very well desu)
>Sonic Unleashed
Dragon Road
>Sonic Generations
Rooftop Run
>Sonic Colors
Starlight Carnival
>Sonic Lost World
Sky Road
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>>159206119
>That Sonic/Amy interaction
>Amy's hands being the same as the CD ending

Why can't the games be this good, man?
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>>159205741
I love me some Speed Highway
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>Page 8

Not on my watch!
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>>159204513
> "You can measure the temperature in Kelvin right now!"
[Angry scientist noises]
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>>159208870
Page 8 is comfy.
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I hereby declare this thread dead.
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>>159212457
You bumped the thread.
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>>159212534
With what?
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>comics removed from ScanF for reasons that will come later
>yfw it was Penders, somehow
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>>159212457
When are we making a Dead the Thread character?
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I request Blaze the Cat doing this pose.
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>>159206798

Apparently they got DMCA'd.
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>>159205137
LOCKE GET OUT OF THE COMIC PENDERS WILL SU-

>bigger than the flying battery
That's pretty big.
Also worst station is E.G.G. Station.
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>>159219172
Archie is MAD AF now
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at least we got the win'o threads
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>>159220245
To be fair, their biggest selling comic (I don't know how much "Archie" sells) for free on a website. Including Penders shit mind you.

I am poor as fuck but waiting for my next pay to set up a subscription because new job, so I used the website to catch up from reboot, but I can see where Archie's coming from.
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>>159219747
>Also worst station is E.G.G. Station.
you mean P.I.N.E.S.S. STATION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur2-6O5sdlE
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>>159204864
why did Tails have all of the gears
where did he put them
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>>159206737
>it's gone
FUCK
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>>159203581
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>>159199293
she's spinoff fodder for now
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is it a good time to post this?

i've finally finished it
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>>159221356
Fucking excellent!
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>>159203309
>that cat-bot
That enemy design is WAY too good to let go to waste.
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>>159204642
>cooling himself with his tails
CUTE
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>>159205650
>>159205796
>>159205990
Can we get Hesse to draw all fight scenes from now on?
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>>159221356
Looks real nice, anon
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>>159221356
Nice! Good job, anon.
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>>159202750
To look cute.
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>>159199293
>killing one of the most original characters in the series
t. Miyamoto
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>>159206737
okay, chums, where can I get the whole series before they DMCA everyone?
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>>159223182
Better start pulling everything on TailsKicksAss
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>>159223182
There was a mega in the OP pastebin but no idea how out of date it is / if it's even still up
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Do I literally have to go through TKA and download each and every issue? Is that what's gonna happen, now?
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>>159223285
>>159223314
Wasn't there an anon that was curating the story dumps? If he's got the link, I'll update the bin.
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>>159223314
I know Comix4Free has a continually-updated aggregate file, but the site appears to be down right now.
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B U M P
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>>159217363
here you go anon, i got bored so i did your request. sorry if the anatomy looks kinda wonky, i might fix and color it later.
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>>159205990
I just love how expressive Metal gets despite not having an expression
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Anyone going to Sonic and Sega Fan Jam? Yardley, Flynn, and I guess ABT are all attending now. Wondering what the /sthg/ presence will be
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>>159225632
Guessing that's an American thing?
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>>159225632
Wish I could, but I'd just be getting back from a trip. Maybe someday...
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>>159225293
Cute!
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>>159205990
Classic is so fucking cute
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>badniks were all designed by Hesse
Get this man a job on the next Mania.
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>>159225758
Yeah, it's in Georgia.
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>>159225632
Probably not unless it's taking place in atlanta or something.
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>>159228949
It's in Savannah. Was hoping we could do some sort of small meet up
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>>159229092
>4chan meetups
yeah those go swimmingly
or have you forgotten about Old /b/ Day already
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>>159229092
I'm really upset to find out it's so close to me and yet so far. Like...I really want to go but at the same time that's still a 4 hour drive. Jeez. I woulda liked to meet ABT and junk too.

and maybe someone'd be happy to see Yoto.

What usually happens there. I'll have to see if I can legitimize the trip.
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>>159229530
I met with a fellow anon at Summer of Sonic.

Nice guy.
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>>159229092
>Implying I'm driving 10 hours to meet a bunch of kids and autists to talk about Sonic with when I can get the same experience right here
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>>159229672
I'd love to meet you, Yoto!
I think it's usually a small event, but I know it offers a lot of opportunities to sit and chat with the creators. I know that ABT is going to the event for that exact reason. It's not huge but it's a good way to get friendly.
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>>159229530
might be fun to approach ABT and thank him for the streams and time here. I dunno
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>>159229092
>5 hours
Dammit, it's not THAT far, but it's still a hotel stay for sure. If it had been any other week, I'd be there in a heartbeat.
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>>159229092
>Lives on the other side of the country
Sketch ain't comin', that's for damn sure.
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>tfw poorfag
>was issue 67
>Website is down and no way to finish the dark ages
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>>159202836
BRAVO, NOLAN
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>>159210663
The hell does that mean?
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>>159231706
Use the links in the pastebin.
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>>159232645
Well first, you can measure any temperature with Kelvin. Secondly, Kelvin is for very LOW temperatures. Really stupid failed joke that should have been caught by editors
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>>159232971

maybe it's really intense freezer burn
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>>159232971
Just shrug it off to Tails being young.
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>>159232971
>Really stupid failed joke that should have been caught by editors
Not everybody is as autistic as you.
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>>159232971
Just cause it's meant for low temps doesn't mean it can't be used for high temp.

That being said, 0°C is 273.15K.
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>>159232971
what if it wasn't a joke, what if it was just a fact.
Maybe tails was just trying to educate the gang huh, ever think about that smart guy?
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>>159233851
But the point is that Kelvin isn't as good of an indicator of heat as Celsius.
It's like saying "This lava is as hot as ice is cold!"

Or like saying
"This football field is so long it can be measured in Inches! "
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>>159231706
Tailskickass is your friend. Though it only has the issues up to a certain point (Like 281 or something)
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>>159199293
>Deleting Space Mum
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>>159233512
Literally Big Bang Theory tier humor.
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>>159235943

>but don't eat it, sicko
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>>159235943
>oh no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glTnjGmjTcQ
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>>159236252
>>oh no.
Why do I want oh no as my text tone?
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>>159237828
lel
'cause it's awesome.

do it!
>>
>9
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>>159240469
IT'S
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How would you react if they announced a new Sonic by Hal
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>>159240978
I would expect slow mediocre gameplay with a hype as fuck Final Boss
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>>159240978
>HAL Labs Sonic
>it's a Team Rose game
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>>159241161
>slow
>implying
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>>159241161
damn, KPR was pretty much the only Kirby game i bother to replay some previous levels

aside Amazing Mirror
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>>159241161
could Super Sonic defeat a Clockwork Star?
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>>159240856
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>>159206119
What a Rascal.
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>>159242176
Fuck off you goddamn spic, we're still recovering from the plant puns
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I find Tommy Thunder cute. Must be the fangs.
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>>159242414
>that smug eyebrow raise Tommy does after every move Sonic makes
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>>159241161
So Sonic as always?
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>>159242414
When did sonic get specular highlights?
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>>159243392
When he got a bigger budget.
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>>159244008
>pokemon anime loses its budget
>sonic gains a better budget
What a world we live in
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>>159244086
Yeah, you could almost say it's a Wonder World.
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>>159244086
It's just too bad Cartoon Network really wants to fuck Soniic Boom up. Even Aaron wasn't aware Season 2 already aired.
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>>159244892
CN seems to really like fucking any show that isn't TTG in the ass.
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>>159244892
CN wants Pokemon and Sonic to fuck off since they cant stand their most popular shows refuse to take on the CN brand.
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>>159245041
It'd probably help if their most popular shows weren't shit.
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>>159245112
Pokemon and Boom are their most popular shows I believe, a few years back TPCi refused to allow Pokemon to be in their bumpers with their new cast of CN characters.
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Carlos why are you even here?

should be your pet, Ultros, doing the vidya puns. Not your shotaspic ass.
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>>159245215
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>>159245334

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNpWBMNyC0w
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>>159245256
Pretty sure not even Pokemon and Boom can usurp the autism pits of SU and AT. Honorable mentions go to TTG and NuPPG for not being as popular but being just as cancer.
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>>159242414
A cat character with catlike eyes. Will Boom's Blaze have those same eyes?
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>>159245503
And protruding fangs? I seriously hope so.
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>>159245503
>Boom's Blaze
https://youtu.be/LXDFJnQstSk?t=5
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>>159245503

>Boom's Blaze.

That's never happening.
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>>159244546
fffffffffffffffuck you
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>>159246005
>>
Mobile Bump.
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>>159248324
>Bump-mobile
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>>159249008
What would it look like?
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>>159248324
Clover, Everychan, or Mimi Reader?
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>>159249096
Give me some car references and I'll draw it later.
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>>159249216
Here's a pretty cool car for you to reference.
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>>159249216
>>159249717
I think one of these would suit her better.
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>page 10
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Why are we so dead?
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>>159253847
I blame you.
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>>159254208
I double blame you
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>>159249830
Make it happen, drawfags
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlrWipe1L7c
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>>159257153
madman
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>>159249830
I don't know why I didn't think of this before.
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>>159242414
Man, it bugs me how every character outside the main cast in Boom looks like really trashy.
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PAGE 9
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Why so slow /sthg/?
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>>159260841
You're missing the stream, that's why.
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>>159261050
What stream?
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>>159257153
They have a Studiopolis poster. Quick, get them!
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>>159253847
I blame the faggot posting early
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>>159262570
This is why people turn to furry.
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>>159262570
>that hair
why
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>>159262570
I don't think it looks that bad, although I'd change her face to have more freckles, change the eyes to be more rounded, and I don't know, make the hair less like blobs. But that's just me.
Oh and change the heels.
But it's good otherwise.
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>>159264828
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>>159202836
>sonics fucking face bottom right corner

all of these comics have god tier reaction images
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>>159262570
>heels
>short hair

no thanks. at least they never gave her buck teeth though.
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>>159265190
This. Actually, it's kind of weird she never had them. I'm eternally thankful, but it's strange, isn't it?
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>>159265680
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>>159266468
This one's okay-ish
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>>159267092
It looks better.
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>>159267384
Mostly. The outfit needs to be a two-piece and the hair needs to be a different color than her fur.
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>>159267485
I don't agree.
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>>159262570
sweeto pokeman brah
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>>159265680
Where's that really realistic Sonic drawing that looks kind of like this? I like that one.
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When are the Freedom Fighters gonna take a backseat from being the main characters?
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>>159271486
Hopefully now.
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>>159271486
Hopefully after this arc they get shoved to the background and only show up every few years or so and for one issue when they do show up
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>>159271690
Oh you.

>>159271486
I take it you mean the freedom fighters not introduced in SaTam?
Cause realistically, only one of them has an arc to themselves and the others have had more game characters having their moments than not.
I think there was that one with Bunnie and Sally getting Cassia and Clove's Emerald, but then they still shared that with Sonic and Tails and Chip in the same issue.

You prove to me that Sally and Co are more main characters than Sonic and Co and I'll see what you're getting at at least.
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Never forget.
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Maybe the reason this general is so quiet today is because classicfags and anti-Sonic autists are shitting up /v/ for the googolplex'd time.
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>>159272462
Rather there than here.
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>>159253847
It's not dead, just slow.
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>>159272332
What was their fucking problem?
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>>159272332
>That one rule 34 art
succ
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>>159231706

Shit, that sucks. I hope it's not actually a DMCA...

Looks like the "other" pastebin archive is still working though.
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>>159272332
Amy a qt.
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>>159273790
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WOOAH, MY HEAD'S SPINNING
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>>159274894
WOW LOOK AT ALL THOSE EGGMAN'S ROBOTS
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>>159272332
someone post Boom Boo Vanilla from that Sonic X comic
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>>159275323
...this one?
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>>159273319
reasons
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>>159275323
This?
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>>159276001
muh dick
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>>159271270
Here ya go
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>>159275997
I''m surprised they brought those boos back in Lost World. Will we see more of them someday?
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>>159275997
>>159276001
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With all this Marvel Vs. Capcom talk, what if Sega vs. Capcom was announced? Who would be your roster anons?
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>>159276761
Come on, anon, not during no-fap november
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>>159277135
Oh, man, I'm sorry.
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>>159277135
>No fapping for a month
That isn't healthy you know.
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>>159277135
>no-fap november
WHY DID YOU REMIND ME
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>>159277135
I'll join you in solidarity
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>>159277342
ANON

>>159277689
Wait, not fapping for a month is less healthy than fapping twice a day?
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>>159277821
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>>159277821
Okay, how about this one? Nothin wrong with this pic, right?
>>
I'm planning on doing a sketch commission stream a bit later if anyone's interested. Even if you can't/don't want to buy one, I'll still be drawing and maybe playing a few games.
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>>159277135
>>159277769
>>159277806
Why the fuck do people do that?
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>>159278051
You can eat too much protein?
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>>159278017
Cool. Probably can't stay up too late, but it'd be neat to join.

Is NSFW allowed?
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>>159278017
>commissions
I've always wanted to commission something but even when I have the money spare I can never think of something worth commissioning.
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>>159278261
Not saying you have to get one, but the Idea Wall is good for sparking one's muse
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>>159278603
Fapping isn't bad, addiction is.
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>>159278603
Because the Bible says so you fucking heathen faggot. It's like you don't even read the word of god.
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>>159278829
The bible also bans eating shrimp. Like it brings it up several times. And I'll be damned if I worship a god that doesn't let me get the seafood platter.
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>>159279043
“Hear me, all of you, and understand: there is nothing outside a man which by going into him can defile him; but the things which come out of a man are what defile him…. Do you not see that whatever goes into a man from outside cannot defile him, since it enters, not his heart but his stomach, and so passes on?”
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>>159279043
>Shrimp.

Shrimp is fucking gross unless you're a slant eyed Gook or a Roo fucker. What the hell is wrong with you?
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>>159276001
hot
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>>159278829
kek, the holy scripture doesn't even outright state it's bad outside spilling your semen on the floor (which is just old testament shit.)
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>>159279670
Can't it be covered under lustfulness though?
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Of course they picked the most complicated costume design imaginable to draw in 30 minutes.

>>159279310
kek
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>>159276001
{spoiler}Didn't Ian said he seen porn of those two with Chris?
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>>159279401

Shrip is great you goofy jackass. Now sit down and shut the fuck up when grown folks is talking.
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>>159279825
Shit, fucked it up
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>>159279809
it's a natural thing to do when you get older before you look for wife, not for going out and just picking up 20 hoes to stick your dick in.
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>>159279401
Requesting a Shadow version of that picture
Original is pic related
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>>159279043
Shrimp is pretty shit tier to eat, so i don't blame YHVH for banning it since
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>>159279670
>which is just old testament shit
I can't take a religion seriously if they constantly change the rules on what is bad or not.
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>>159257153
Do you think they fug?
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>>159281135
God use to be a angry war guy back, but now he's chill.

but hey, can't force ya on what to follow or not. like the holy book said, it's all up to you.
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>>159279825
Why would Ian admit to looking at Sonic porn?
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>>159221356
I almost miss this. It's pretty lewd! I like it

Can collage anon add it to the collage?

Also,
>Bump the Hind
>no hind shown
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>>159281682
a hind is a female deer

take it as you will
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>>159249216
Here's one. If Bump won't drive it you know Sonic would.
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>>159281712
What's a Rose?
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>>159282009
Took ya a while to find that pic did it?
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>>159282009
What would Bump's car plate be?
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>>159282082
Something that by any other name, would smell as sweet.
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>>159281374
I could be wrong, but I remember an anon once asked him here before if there was something Sonic related that made him cringe and he said that he somehow found that that porn somewhere on the internet that made him cringe
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>>159282234
What was the porn?
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>>159282082
A fictitious type of hedgehog that wields a gigantic hammer.
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>>159278017
Picarto.tv/yotomoe
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>>159282292
Boo-possessed Vanilla and Mrs. Thorndyke raping the unwilling Chris
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>>159282976
you should allow guests to chat
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>>159283190
So /sthg/ can shit it up?
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>>159283273
Duh, of course.
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>>159283273
well if you set a username you don't have to create an account
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>>159283190
I thought I did? I turned on Chat Access to "everyone"
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>>159242414
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>>159262570
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>>159274894
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRHBB6wJjv0
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>>159283749
I like his design. Tommy is one of the few supporting cast characters in Boom to have a less generic design
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>>159283834
Suck it Antoine
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>>159285832
shitty bara tiger with the exact same scarf as sonic is pretty generic
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>>159279865
>Religion founded upon following the principles of a holy book
>Selectively choose which bits of it you want to follow
Look, if you're going to be picky about it then just fucking drop religion altogether and just be a decent person. I dropped the Christianity shite the moment I heard a devout Christian try to explain it off as 'making sure that the religion is relevant to today's people'. Just... fucking no. You either obey the religion, or realise it's just dogmatic stupidity that's been revised over and over again into meaninglessness, and carry on with your life happily.
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>>159286647
nah
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>>159286647
No
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>>159286647
>You either obey , or realise it's just dogmatic stupidity that's been revised over and over again into meaninglessness
Perhaps the same could be said of all of man's laws.
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>>159286647
fuck off
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>>159286739
>>159286783
>>159286824
Touched a nerve?

>>159286786
Laws (at least in the First World) tend to have real-world foundations that are grounded in common sense, and don't ask their adherents to go through ridiculous and asinine lifestyle alterations in order to reach some kind of utopian end-point. Laws are pretty much 'don't be a dick to other people, no excuses', religion tends to be 'don't be a dick to those like you, but everyone else is fair game'.
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>>159286647
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>>159287020
I'd like to point out that you're trying to start something in a SONIC general, stop being gay
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Holy shit just what the fuck did /sthg/ devolve to?
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>>159287551
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>>159287551
This is what happens when there's no news
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>>159287551
the Church of Shadow
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>>159287551
All of this shit posting that's been happening for the past couple of months has just been ruining it for the normal people on here
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>>159287794
>not the Cult of Chaos
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>>159287794
Hail Maria, full of grace, the Chaos is with thee
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>>159287794
>2016
>not giving respects to your Lord and Savior, Dr. Robotnik
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>>159287794
>>159287990
>not Group of Screaming Autists.

What even are we anymore?
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>>159287178
Alligator snappers ain't nothin' to fuck wit
Mobian version when?
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>>159288252
we've ascended beyond autism
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>>159288269
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>>159288470
Fuck off Tommy, you don't count.
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>>159286624
Eh, I meant he kind of stands out the most compare to most of the villagers who aren't the main cast such as Zooey and Soar
>>159287990
Best monster of the week coming through
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>>159288551
his name is Leroy

>>159288581
Zooey is cute though, she has that autistic lisp going on
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#Shadow4Mania
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>>159288798
I know a FUCKING turtle when I see one.
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>>159288805
DLC or Steam Workshop
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>>159289036
Jesus Christ, is his design always so inconsistent?
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>>159272332
Why boner
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>>159288805
Would rather have Amy in Mania, to be honest.
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>>159289545
dark ages in a nutshell
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lmao what is this kingdom hearts
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>>159289809
Is that Jules and Bernie!?
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>>159289708
Agreed.
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>>159289917
yup, they didnt grow their hair out yet
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>>159289809
>literally just human bodies and animal heads

quite honestly the worst thing about the preboot. Even after Ian took over though at that point I believe it was mainly just Butler
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so does anyone here listen to sega themed radio shows and podcasts or whatever or is it just me?

how fucked am I for listening to radio sega?
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>>159290468
>literally just human bodies and animal heads
This was one of the biggest issues in the early comics, because the inconsistent body styles are so jarring
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>>159290514
I want aware such things even existed
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>>159290468
>>159290831
How else can you make them attractive?
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>>159291118
just make them cute and it works out
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>>159291012
up until last week neither was I. But it's way better than using youtube as a music playlist. I don't have to worry about picking out songs or listening to full albums and I hear new stuff I've not heard before and some of it's good.

saves bandiwidth too.
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>>159291246
>they see your dick
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>>159291118
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>>159279310
>>159279821
So damn cute, well done anon

>>159280061
Someone should do it with Shadow holding the MP5 with the fictional pump.
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>>159290831
Which one is the REAL Knuckles?
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>>159249717
>>159249830
/o/ here, don't care how late I am to this party

gonna say volvo xc70 as that bumper sticks out, probably with a smashed front end

>>159282009
>>>/trash/
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>>159294120
>/o/
Now that's a crossboard outta nowhere
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>>159293170
The green one
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>>159294736
I don't see a green one there
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>>159295032
Exactly
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>>159277048
sega-sonic,knuckles,shadow,akria,vyse,beat,the mc from altered beast,gillus thunderhead, the mc from shinobi,billy hatcher,alex kidd, NiGHTS,segata sanshiro
capcom-classic megaman, zero, ryu,falcon(power stone) son son (mvc2),aurthor,Ingrid,Wang Tang(power stone)

thats just off the top of my head.
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>>159290468
>though at that point I believe it was mainly just Butler

I didn't mind it when he did it though.
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>>159297883
>Wang Tang(power stone)
Yisssss
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>>159294283
I spotted a shardfag in /lit/ the other day. It's kinda weird but also reassuring knowing we're all out there somewhere.
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>>159298140
honestly i think sega vs capcom is the only way to see power stone characters again.
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>>159290831
Nice Vault Boy cosplay going on in the second to last panel.
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remember when shadow became king of the planet and made Maria a religious icon?
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>>159298507
It's interesting to see when Sonic discussion pops up on boards that don't discuss him much.
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>>159300938
No
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Who is the worst character made.
>comic fags btfo
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>>159301803
>Who is the worst character made.
Sonic.
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>>159301803
>Who is the worst character made

Scourge.
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>>159300938
Jesus
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>>159306526
No, that's Maria.
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wakey wakey
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>>159307929
yes, I am here.
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>>159307929
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>>159307929
No, sleep is too nice
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>>159307929
I swear to god if I wake up in the morning to the Grand Battle Kukku's smiling face I'm going to kill myself
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>>159310971
Wake up, son
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>>159312157
Oh God
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>>159300938
i remember when he had Tikhaos as a personal jerkoff toilet...
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>>159307929
i'm off today, sire.
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Tim Miller was one of us all along
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>>159312157
>>159309029
>>159307929
>it's 2016 and noone, not even a big Metroid/Castlevania fan, did a fangame of Tails' Adventure
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>>159316558
there's TALX at least

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lrtom4v75cnz5k1/Tails%20Adventures%20LX.gg?dl=0
http://sonicresearch.org/community/index.php?threads/tails-adventure-lx-wip-hack.4588/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFaZUlk6A90
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>>159316558
>and editor exist for it
sweet
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>>159297883
Sega
>Sonic
>Shadow
>Knuckles
>NiGHTS
>Beat
>Akira Yuki
>Jacky Bryant
>Sarah Bryant
>Bahn
>Honey
>Sketch Turner
>Bayonetta
>Jack Cayman
>Tyris Flare
>Axel Stone
>Blaze Fielding
>Sam Gedion
>Kazuma Kiryu
>Sakura(Sakura Wars)
>Zephyr
>Alex Kidd
>Joe Musashi
>Alis
>Vyse
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>>159318367
Capcom
>Mega Man
>Mega Man X
>Protoman
>Arthur
>Frank West
>Ryu
>Ken
>Chun-Li
>Jon Talbain
>Batsu
>Viewtiful Joe
>Dante
>Gene
>Cyber Blue
>Cody
>Guy
>Linn Kurosawa
>Phoenix Wright
>Hayato
>Leon S. Kennedy
>Captain Commando
>Strider Hiryu
>Ryu(BoF)
>Tessa
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>>159319114
>gene

A man of taste I see .
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i'm glad the talks of Vs. Capcom came back

getting sick of people foaming over the idea "Smash clones" for every franchise.

most of them end up being shit or average joe like Punch Time Explosion
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maybe they could add the sega hard girls as joke chatterers
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>>159322971
>he thinks Lost World was good
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>>159291118
EYELASHES
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this was the best eggman mech in my opinion
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>>159319114
Unlockables
>Vanessa Z. Schinder
>Ristar
Mid-Bosses
>Dural
>M. Bison
>Dr. Wily
>Dr. Eggman
>Death Adder
>Sigma(He'll be the Penultimate Boss)

Final Boss
>Dark Falz/Profound Darkness
Hidden Bosses
>Akuma/Shin Akuma
>Segata Sanshiro
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>>159323486
>Not Egg dragoon
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>>159320134
Capcom has such a great roster of characters it's staggering.
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Trans-Pacific Partnership passed in Japan
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>>159324045
is that good or bad I'm a retard sorry
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>>159323486
>>159323708
fucking plebs
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>>159325180
let's say, you're not allow to make any fan creation of the merch even if SEGA gave flexible privileges to do so at ease.

this also endangers the indie community, they aren't allowed to make or sell similar/inspired games (ala Freedom Planet or Sparky)
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What non-Sonic character could beat Sonic in a fight?
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>>159324045
>There isn't a single thread about it on /v/
Sometimes I remind myself how lucky I am to have visited /vg/ before /v/
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>>159324045
>>159325606
that's some """partnership"""
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>>159327173
Kirby, hands down
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>>159327759
because vee mods will think it's /pol/-exclusive or pretend anyone bothers goes to /news/

honestly, this is something /a/ and our touhou penpals at /jp/ should be worrying about right now
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>>159325606
>this also endangers the indie community, they aren't allowed to make or sell similar/inspired games (ala Freedom Planet or Sparky)


That's really a stretch.
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>>159328143
especially since FP2 is in development anyway
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>>159325606
>they aren't allowed to make or sell similar/inspired games
so does this means Miyamoto can sue Yuji Naka for making a game based on speedrunning World 1-1 in Super Mario Bros??
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>>159327941
It must suck to lose against something so cute.
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This character makes me very uncomfortable. That chick is a jellyfish isn't she?
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>>159328190
And I doubt SEGA would suddenly start going Nintendo on fan/inspired projects just because of some trade agreement after all the positive PR they got for allowing/endorsing said fan/inspired projects.
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>>159328489
Taking down INSPIRED projects is really drastic
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>>159328679
Especially when all that talent pool is coming out of Sonic Retro, the same place Taxman and Stealth are from. That'd basically be SEGA biting the hand that feeds them.
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>>159301803
There are only 2 that immediately came to mind.

For starters, Game-Amy. She serves no purpose other than being the token girl and an annoying kid with an incredibly unhealthy crush towards Sonic, who clearly doesn't feel the same way. Any attempt to expand her character beyond being a Sonic fangirl have never stuck because Sonic Team is too inept to write a character, let alone a decent story. Her game play in the games has always kind of been clunky as well, with the exception of the Advance games.(And even, she was always my last pick.)

The other one is Cream and Cheese in general. As cute as they are, they dont really serve much of a purpose beyond being the young cute nice kids and being Amy's Tails. They just kinda do whatever Amy does. Gameplay wise, at least for Advance 2, they were the easy mode of the game, and were admittedly fun to play. There's just something amusing about a cute 6 year old and her pet friend obliterating an army of robots with ease.

But even so, Cream's still just a nice kid, and Amy is just an obsessed stalker, and that's all they have going for them (unless you count being cute as something), and ultimately serve no purpose whatsoever.
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>>159327941
Would a Sonic/Kirby crossover work?
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>>159329054
>Amy is just an obsessed stalker, and that's all they have going for them, and ultimately serve no purpose whatsoever

Gotta admit, surprising people still think this.
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>>159329095
I want to see how amazing the final boss would be in a collab.

Perfect Chaos and Zero 2 are God-Tier in terms of design
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>>159327173
A shape shifting master of darkness.
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>>159329434
I really wish the Sonic games had a bigger rouge gallery of regular villains.

Sure it has other villains, but they're far from regulars, sans Eggman Nega and that barely even counts.
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>>159329216
it's surprising people still think this.*

But yeah, you're wrong.
>>
What if SEGA decided to expand on Silver's time period and gave him a fox sidekick, a hedgehog girl love interest, and an echidna rival, alongside the already present hedgehog hero with the power of chaos and egg-shaped mad scientist villain?
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>>159329697
Well, SEGA has made shit decisions before.
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>>159329697
>love interest
Not happening.
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>>159330125
I mean, like Amy.
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>>159329216
I just feel like they had something going at the end of her story in Adventure 1, then completely through it out the window immediately afterwards. Just like how they had something going with Rouge and Eggman at the end of SA2, then completely through that out the window as well. The only time in the games that I can think of Amy not just being focused on Sonic are Lost World, parts of her story in SA1 and SA2's last story.

>>159329580
I wish we had recurring antagonists as well. I would like to see something like Team Hooligans from the Archie Comics in the game or something. It sure would make the world of Sonic feel like an actual world with multiple threats beyond Eggman and whatever Monster-of-the-Week he failed to control. Hell, have Metal turn rogue and become his own character, permanently.
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>>159330125
>>159330237
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>>159330125
Not him, but Gold would be okay if we could assume she's bisexual
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>>159329697
Honestly, that sounds awful. Unless you're going for a reincarnation type of thing.
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>>159330323
That's because Amy hasn't had much focus in the games since Heroes. If she did, we would see her do more in the games, than just chase Sonic.

>>159330382
>Blaze
>Love interest

Only shippers think Blaze is a love interest to anyone, desu.
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Can anyone give me the TL;DR on the Black Arms in the comics post-reboot?
Do they have any backstory beyond "ayy lmao"?
I understand they had a second comet, but since that one got blown up too, are they still genocided?
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>>159329216
>Gotta admit, surprising people still think this.
But it's true though. That's all she is: a psychotic stalker. If they treated it as being fucked up as it is, then it could be interesting
>>
I haven't been here in 3 months. someone break my heart with unexpected news ?
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>>159330706
>Liking someone
>psychotic stalker

Ebin meme lad, but no. Amy has shown to be useful in the games, has shown as being able to defend herself (and others), & just because she likes someone doesn't make her an obsessive stalker.
>>
>>159330847
Well, Fang, Bean & Bark may be bosses in Sonic Mania.
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>>159330872
There's a difference between liking someone and constnatly literally fucking stalking them and threatening them with physical violence if they don't marry you. If she existed irl she'd be in an asylum by now
>>
>>159330847
They showed off a new Mania level.
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>>159330485
That's actually my theory on what Silver is: Sonic's "reincarnation", so to speak. And my line of thought is, since Sonic's World200+ has a Sonic and an Eggman, it might as well have a Tails, Knuckles and Amy as well. The 'Knuckles' would obviously be the future's Master Emerald Guardian on Onyx Island, and being the Knuckles to Silver's "Sonic", would have a specific ability that counters Silver's Psychokinesis the same way "Power" counters Sonic's Speed.
>>159330706
Amy is not a psychotic stalker. That has never been the intention. Amy's role is Sonic's LOVE INTEREST. And being madly obsessively in love with him and chasing him all over the world is how a love interest works for Sonic's character, because he's not the kind of guy to go ahead and be in a commited relationship and let himself be tied down by the responsibility and commitment of marriage.
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>>159330979
This is not unexpected, it's someone picking up my heart and gently putting it back together.

>inb4 sonic mania has bugs as bad as sonic 4 in spite of sonic 4 being fucking decent as far as sonic game went.
>>
>>159330565
Basically, the black arms are the exact same as they were in the games. Then the guys on the second comet came in order to get revenge on Earth for wiping out most of their species, and to repopulate. There was this Dark Arm called Eclipse who was, in concept, what Shadow would have been if he was 100% Dark Arms. When the second comet was on the verge of blowing up, the leader decided to shove him and 3 eggs into a pod and sent it to Earth. Then he tried to steal the M.E. for himself and the babies, but Knux shattered it again. Now Eclipse is somewhere on Earth/Mobius/Whatever, holding a grudge against the planet and Shadow in particular. It's been a while, so I may have left out some details.

>>159330547
That is a good point. Honestly, it feels like they just don't know what to do with any of their characters anymore. It feels like there is so much potential in all of these characters we have, and it's not being used, both story-wise and gameplay-wise.
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>>159331389
>in spite of sonic 4 being fucking decent as far as sonic game went.
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>>159330979
What if Taxman is playing us and they aren't actually in at all?
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>>159330565
Their backstory is explained in shadow the edgelord . the reboot is pretty much following the games as close as it possibly can.

also.

>people calling amy a psycho.

wow lad. she is litteraly just doing yur average 90's trope girl with a crush. Nothing unusual here desu . what is it with people trying to overthink everything ?

don't you know ? too much fanwank kills the love.
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>>159331389
We already know Taxmans history with bugs and glitches, and how well he tries to fix them.

The only way things can go wrong is if SEGA goes bankrupt.
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>>159331260
>And being madly obsessively in love with him and chasing him all over the world is how a love interest works for Sonic's character, because he's not the kind of guy to go ahead and be in a commited relationship and let himself be tied down by the responsibility and commitment of marriage.
Well then that's fucked up because she IS a psychotic stalker. I bet that the only reason she lets Tails be around Sonic is because it makes him happy. Otherwise she'd kill him in an instant because it stands between her and her sonikku
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>>159331157
>literally stalking them

You mean run up to them, trying to huh them? That's considered stalking now?

>threatening them with physical violence

Outside of Heroes, when did this happen?

>If she existed irl she'd be in an asylum by now

A lot of shit things would happen to Sonic & the others if this was real life. But it's not, it's a video game series.

Seriously, I thought these shit reasons as to why Amy sucks died in 2005.

>>159331621
Or, because Amy & Tails are friends, as shown by her sticking up for Tails when Wave was shitting on him in Riders.
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>>159331389
>Sonic 4
>decent
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>>159331589
Or just cancel Mania out of nowhere.
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>>159331708
hug*
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>>159331260
That sounds pretty interesting when you put it like that. Plays into the idea that there will always be the heroes and there will always be the empire.
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>>159331708
>You mean run up to them, trying to huh them? That's considered stalking now?
No, chasing them with a hammer and threatening them with physical violence when they refuse to marry her
>>159331708
>Or, because Amy & Tails are friends, as shown by her sticking up for Tails when Wave was shitting on him in Riders.
Probably only because otherwise Sonic would be upset. Her entire life revolves around trying to be like and impressing Sonic. She probably saved that flickie family so she could "prove" to Sonic that she could be like him
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>>159331526
>falling for the meme.

they aren't worse than sonic advance. I liked them. people need to take a serious chill pill as far as sonic goes.

>>159331589
well then, that's another game that'll make people happy then ! Maybe the fandom's most vocal retards will stop faggoting around long enough.

bonus point if the pc version has a workshop.

>>159331708
Don't bother. it's litteraly a fandom thing. a random girl, close to the hero, will be shat on for the sole fact of being a possible love interest. thus, she must be eliminated in ways making yandere simulator's dev wet with fear
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>>159331389
>sonic 4 being fucking decen
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> Amy is a psychotic stalker with an unhealthy obsession
I actually don't mind this interpretation.
Because it's a fucking quantum leap above the usual "Strong power girls can do no wrong" archetype that everyone seems to want all females in vidya to have these days.
So what if Amy's fucked up? Good. It makes her more interesting.
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>>159331882
And again, besides Heroes, when did this happen?

>Probably only because otherwise Sonic would be upset

Why would he? In Riders, Amy had no reason to stick up for Tails, other than the two being friends.

>>159331898
I just find it amazing that a character can't like another character without being called an "obsessive stalker."
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>>159331708
>You mean run up to them, trying to huh them?That's considered stalking now?

Chasing someone all over the planet for their affection seems pretty stalker-ish to me.

>Outside of Heroes, when did this happen?

Advance 3, Rush, Black Knight, Riders.

>>159331582
> she is litteraly just doing yur average 90's trope girl with a crush. Nothing unusual here desu

Just because it's been done before doesn't mean it's good.
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The autism is real, lads.

>>159332138

What is it with people considering mental illnesses interesting tho ?

post best echidna
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>>159332236
>What is it with people considering mental illnesses interesting tho ?
Well it's more interesting than "Literally nothing", isn't it?

> post best echidna
Done
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So let's recap. Sonic is a complete sociopathic or psychopathic jerk who does not care at all about having friends or anything, and doesn't have a heroic moral bone in his body. He's only the "hero" because it's fun.

Amy is a psychotic stalker with extreme violent and murderous tendencies who will get Sonic to love her by force if she has to, and anyone that gets in the way will die.

Is this seriously how some people view Sonic and Amy?
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>>159332138
>So what if Amy's fucked up? Good. It makes her more interesting.
Shame that they refuse to address the fact she's a psycho and instead everyone tries to make her out to be this strong independent character which she's not. Play up the psycho aspect of her, make her damaged, make her fucked up beyond belief. In fact, a lot of the girls in this franchise could stand to lose the "Strong independent" aspect, like say, Bunnie or Rouge. Bunnie would be so much better as a completely insecure shy girl who's incredibly sensitive about her robot parts and pushes people away because she views herself as a monster

And Rouge should be this fucked up person who can't form connections with anyone because she ironically can't trust anyone after being a spy for so long.
>>159332236
>What is it with people considering mental illnesses interesting tho ?
Because it's different and fresh and exciting
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>>159332138
>it makes her more interesting
it also makes her more annoying and she's bad enough as it is
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>>159331898
>they aren't worse than sonic advance

>Sonic Advance
>4 fun players
>6 zones that resemble old levels but do their own thing, a final level, and a Super Sonic level
>Physics based closely off Genesis code so rolling around works and jumps control as you expect them to
>Actual original bosses

>implying Sonic 4 is on-level with this
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>>159332379
Yes, because that's how it is. Sonic's only the hero because it's convenient and fun to him. If being the villain was more fun, he'd be a villain. He does whatever seems fun and exciting to him. The citizens of his world are lucky he found being a hero fun

And well, I don't think we need to recap Amy
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>>159332564
Episode II had original bosses.
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>>159332446
Maybe the reason Amy gain an obsession for Sonic was because she had a rough life at wherever her "home" was. Then after hearing about Sonic, she wanted to learn more about him and his free spirit ways and left home forever. Or something.

That sounds stupid, actually.
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>>159332446
>Wanting this

Gotta admit, it's not often someone says something this retarded here.

>>159332379
Only shitposters & idiots think this way about Sonic & Amy.
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>>159332198
I never said it was good. i'm saying it's been seen and done before. I'm disappointed by the fact that people are taking it to a whole new level of overthinking turning it into a meme.

sonic saved her life from a robot that would have done things to her the bad future only hints on.

at this point, I too would kiss the ground sonic walked on .

>>159332362
She has other things going for her .
she can read tarot cards, has a magic hammer, and do a lot of other shit. explore that hole instead of blowing another where it's NOT needed.

We don't need a litteral autist in the sonic franchise.

She is second best. i won't kill you today

>>159332446
>fresh and exiting
>every DA fag and fanficter have done it to death and in ways that insult people with the actual illness.

>>159332564
Implying implications while wering nostalgia googles

>finding all 7 chaos emerald involved doing a shitty minigame in all 3 games.
>you could see tail's butthole
>Micheal jackson did not make the them song.
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>>159332379
>>159332446
These would make a good Elseworlds comic.
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>>159332689
>all those "negatives" about Sonic Advance
Looks like you've been outplayed if that's all you got.
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>>159332669
>Gotta admit, it's not often someone says something this retarded here.
But there's people saying Amy isn't a psycho stalker. Those are the retards
>>159332661
>Maybe the reason Amy gain an obsession for Sonic was because she had a rough life at wherever her "home" was. Then after hearing about Sonic, she wanted to learn more about him and his free spirit ways and left home forever. Or something.
That sounds likely. She used him as an escape from her horrible life and clings to him in a desperate attempt to ward off her personal demons>>159332689
>>every DA fag and fanficter have done it to death and in ways that insult people with the actual illness.
You can still do it right. Besides, what the fuck will "those" people do? Bitch on Tumblr?>>159332689
>We don't need a litteral autist in the sonic franchise.
Fuck yeah we do. It'd be better than what we have now, and it'd be interesting to boot
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>>159332446
>Shame that they refuse to address the fact she's a psycho and instead everyone tries to make her out to be this strong independent character which she's not.
In the same way that the comic is not a place for furry drama, I would suggest that the vidya is not a place for an in-depth psychoanalysis of a pink hedgehog.
It's perfectly fine to be left as subtext. We don't need to play through Amy Rose in Psychotherapy Zone
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>>159332446
>Play up the psycho aspect of her, make her damaged, make her fucked up beyond belief
This is some advanced DeviantArt tier autism.
Did you just get back from reading TGT?
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>>159332792
Too be honest, I don't care much.

both games were fun. as long as I had my fill of fun, it's decent. I played it on android, and it was a nice time killer while in the bus desu.

so really, I consider the shitting on sonic 4 really, really out of place. there is worse out there.
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>>159332640
It did but Ep 1 still upsets the balance.

>>159332689
>finding all 7 chaos emerald involved doing a shitty minigame in all 3 games.
So does every Sonic game???
>you could see tail's butthole
>Micheal jackson did not make the them song.
Now you're just shitposting.
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>>159332689
But she supposedly had a crush/obsession with him before they even met, if the Japanese manuals are anything to go by. I mean, fuck, Cream and Vanilla got save by Sonic too, and you dont see them doing what Amy does.
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>>159332852
You could just have everyone trying to avoid her at all costs, especially Sonic. Hell, make it a mini game: Avoid Amy's fuckhuge hammer for long enough and you get an emerald or something
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>>159332689
>sonic saved her life from a robot that would have done things to her the bad future only hints on.
>done things to her
robots cant rape
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>>159332836
>Those are the retards

No, those are the people who actually pays attention to what she does in the games.

>Everything else about this post, along with >>159332973 & >>159332975

Please stop trying to ruin a character for your autism, anon.
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>>159332973
>But she supposedly had a crush/obsession with him before they even met, if the Japanese manuals are anything to go by. I mean, fuck, Cream and Vanilla got save by Sonic too, and you dont see them doing what Amy does.
This only cements how much of a psycho Amy is
>>159333049
>Please stop trying to ruin a character for your autism, anon.
>Ruin
All I'm doing is working with what's there and trying to bring it to light
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>>159332981
Implying Amy doesn't enjoy the affections of a battery-powered Sonic every night after she closes the door to her bedroom
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>>159332973
Dude, that was the 90's . fuck knows what went throught sega's mind. I mean, stalker with a crush isn't new in japan. But not to Deviant art levels.

also, she did grow out of it in later games :v

really, it's a non issue brought up by faggot who never learn to let go of the fucking past

>>159333120
fisto upgrade when
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>actual Rush 3 never
>handheld 2D sprite Sonic game never
>Naganuma OST never
>playable Blaze never
>fun and action packed story never
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>>159332931
Just because there is worse does not mean it's not garbage.
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>>159333185
>also, she did grow out of it in later games :v
No, not really. They just ignored how crazy she was
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>>159333101
No, you're trying to fuck a character up, to fit your retarded headcanon of Amy being a "psycho, with personal demons."

Please, keep your fanfiction off of this general.
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You know what, why don't we just take this insanity and run with it? Let's say Sonic IS a sociopath/psychopath who cares about nothing except his own personal sense of fun and excitement, and let's say Amy IS a psychotic stalker with extreme violent tendencies. What does that make Tails, Knuckles, Eggman, and everyone else in this bizzaro elseworld?
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>>159333284
Wow lad. Just let go. I had fun for my cash, and that is it.

>>159333292
Most of the crazy was coming from the fan content itself :v
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>>159332198
>Chasing someone all over the planet for their affection seems pretty stalker-ish to me.

Tails does it too. Really the only difference between Tails and amy is that tails isn't gay for Sonic. If Tails was romantically attracted to him they'd basically be the same.
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>>159333185
>also, she did grow out of it in later games :v
no
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>>159333185
I know it was the 90's and it was typical whatever stuff. But that does not explain why they didn't do anything to change that beyond SA1. It's just disappointing.
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>>159333427
>tails isn't gay for Sonic
>Implying

>>159333435
Yeah.
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>>159332975
It's because Amy's affection is much more playful than you give it credit for. She tries to find and hug him. She hasn't done anything psychotic or violent to him in almost a decade.
And even if she did. So has knuckles and half of Sonic's other friends. They're all a little off.
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>>159333521
no

>>159333427
Tails does it because he looks up to Sonic as an older brother figure
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>>159333356
>What does that make Tails, Knuckles, Eggman, and everyone else in this bizzaro elseworld?
Okay, this sounds like fun
>Tails-Victim of blind hero worship. Sonic uses him for his plane but Tails thinks he's actually Sonic's friend and constantly follows him because of that. Sonic despises Tails because of how annoying he is and wishes he could just take his plane and leave him behind forever. Tails is a genius level inventor, but sadly whenver he shows them to Sonic he ignores them
>Knuckles-Savage protector of Angel Island. He can't communicate with those that go onto it outside of grunts, howls, and screams. He's easily manipulated but has a savage temper and has killed most who have dared venture onto the island.
>Eggman-A cold, calculating evil scientist. He finds animals, tortures them, and turns them into his robotic minions. Life means nothing to him, as do other people. He wishes to conquer the world to fulfill his idea of a robotic utopia, as he himself is mostly robotic at this point

Give me a character from any continuity and I'll fuck them up for ya
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>>159333710
yes

And Amy does it, because she likes him. What's the problem here?

>>159333782
Shit, do Sally next.
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>>159333049
I'm not trying to "ruin" a character for anyone. I'm just pointing out what I dont like about Sonic Team's direction with Amy over the years. If me or anyone else explaining what we don't like about a character, or someone talking about whatever headcanons they have affects you so badly that it "ruins" a character for you, then all I can say is that I'm sorry for you.
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>>159333782
do Froggy
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>>159333408
Whatever, actual autist.
Don't shit up the thread next time you decide to have shit opinions.
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>>159333356
Tails has a complex that causes him to emulate his "hero" in every way. From wearing similar shoes (red/white). To learning how to spin and jump attack despite not even being an animal that does that naturally (Hedgehog makes sense. Fox not so much)

Knuckles is a completely sheltered native man. He has very little knowledge of the world off of the island and all of his information is incredibly dated. Whenever he leaves the island to more modern places he feels a culture shock similar to bringing a 16th century man into 2016.
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>>159333905
>Wanting to completely change a character
>Not trying to ruin it

Fuck off, & please never post your shit opinions again.
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>>159333427
Tails also doesn't threaten him with physical violence, and is a hell of a lot more tolerable. Also, to me it always seemed like Sonic and Tails would run into each other most of the time, while Amy actively searches for him.
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>>159334205
>and is a hell of a lot more tolerable

Did you miss the bitchfit he threw in Lost World?
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>>159333905
You're trying to turn Sonic the Hedgehog into fucking Watchman.

It's not that deep brah.
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>>159333892
>Shit, do Sally next.

>Sally-The cold, pragmatic leader of the Freedom Fighters. Well, at least that's what she wants you to think. She distanced herself emotionally from her comrades and is rather callous in her actions and commands, and will let people die for the sake of the mission. But deep down, she's emotionally fragile and cares deeply for others, but after a series of terrible failtures, firmly believes that being cold and detached is the only way to be a good leader. This has led to people like Bunnie leaving the FFs forever, as Bunnie herself is the definition of emotional fragility
>>159333920
Froggy is actually a lesser demon using a frog as a host, and Big as a servant. He's so thoroughly brainwashed Big that Big literally cannot live without Froggy, so when he disappeared, all Big could do was look for him
I know that one was crappy but there's so little to work wiht
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>>159334360
> Froggy
You are like a little baby, watch this:
>>159333920
Originally your average happy reptile, Froggy was one day yanked out of his pond by a retarded fishing cat who proceeds to mistreat him because he's too dumb; puts him in saltwater, feeds him massively inappropriate foods, makes his skin dry out by sitting him on his dehydrating purple fur. Alas, this same cat destroyed the ecosystem of Froggy's home by removing all the fish from the food chain so the reptile has nowhere else to go.

His life was bad enough before he got briefly possessed by Chaos during SA1. The rage and hatred of 4,000 years of imprisonment bled across from the avenging god's consciousness into Froggy's own, and in all the years since he has been tortured by hideous nightmares of Pachacamac's attack on the Emerald Shrine.
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>>159334360
Shit, now I wanna know what Sticks would be like in this AU.
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>>159331389
>in spite of sonic 4 being fucking decent
t. FP apologist
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>>159334205
True, but Amy only does it as a gag. Never actually wishing him real harm.
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>>159334490
do we have a Froggy version of Pepe?
also frogs are not reptiles, they are amphibians
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I mean, I wanted this general to have a little more activity, but this wasn't what I had in mind.
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>>159334169
>Wanting to completely change a character
Change from fucking what? Ruin what? All I want is for Amy to be a character who isn't 100% focused on Sonic all the time, and actually has her own character with interests besides Sonic.I feel like Sonic Team had something good with her in her story in SA1, but then threw it all away in later game, which was a disappointment. But if you are perfectly content with the Amy Rose we have gotten in the games for all these years, then whatever. More power to you.

>>159334316
How am I trying to turn Sonic into Watchman?
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>>159334612
>Sticks- Literally the personification of /x/. Lives in the woods by herself, constantly fearful that others are out to get her, and the voices in her head only serve to cement this. Has traps set up throughout the jungles of Bygone Island to the point where pretty much anyone that goes in there never comes back out. Is intensely fearful and distrustful of anyone and everyone and will rip apart anyone that manages to get past her traps and eat them alive
>>159334490
Shit that's good
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>>159334612
Sticks' anarchist conspiracytard persona comes from the fact that she is basically V for Vendetta: captured by GUN and experimented on as a child, she harbours a psychotic distrust of authority which is not so much a sane opposition to the people who wronged her as it is deep-seated PTSD from her years of trauma at the government's hands.
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>>159334776
>Keep in mind this is Sega's """big"""" Sonic announcement for the anniversary

No. Project 2017 is. You're already incorrect there Travis.
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>>159334776
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>>159333252
>tfw no Sonic Battle 2
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Someone do Breezie
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>>159334904
Once again. Tails is focused on sonic all the time to. But even then.

Sonic Unleashed: While Amy does hug the werehog thinking its him, she mostly does her own thing for a while before finding out its sonic.
Sonic Lost World; Amy is hanging out with knuckles and the animals for the most part. Not really chasing sonic in any capacity but does keep him updated.

And really, in the last 5 years those were her last two major roles. Beyond a few cameos in generations she hasn't really had much to do because nobody but sonic and tails really matter anymore.
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>>159335052
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>>159334904
>actually has her own character

She already has that.

>with interests besides Sonic

Again, she already has these. Your shit idea is not gonna improve Amy's character at all.

>>159334939
>>159334968
Damn, that's actually pretty good.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG96ifXL2aE
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>>159335653
what are her other interests then, smartass?
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sonic civil war
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>>159335761
Geez, hanging out with Cream, shopping, boxercising, tarot card reading, etc.
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>>159335779
thank god those edgy shits are gone
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>>159335926
I cant belive Ian was the one to give them a better name than just "anti" freedom fighters
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>>159335779
Red pill me on Scrouge
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>>159335821
>>159335761
Helping strangers with problems, Occasionally fighting eggman and his robots. Working on her appearance.
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>>159336542
He's an evil Sonic.

That's it.
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>>159336768
literally every sonic character

>>159336818
so Shadow
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>>159336542
Basic rundown
>Evil Sonic from an alternate mirror dimension for most of his life
>Come issue 160, he gets a bit of a boost from the Master Emerald and a design change
>Is in charge of the anti Freedom Fighters from Moebius but they betrayed him
>At his core he's a complete bitch
>>159336876
Not quite. Shadow and Scourge are more different than Sonic and Shadow
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>>159336542

>literally evil Sonic
>did evil stuff, fugged the entire female cast once
>became green after he tried to sap the ME
>decided that he wanted to be more than just evil Sonic
>got erased from reality and is now a punchline in off panels
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>>159337056
>fugged the entire female cast once

Didn't he just flirt with them, & made out with Bunnie?
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>>159336876
>so Shadow
Yes.
He was the comic's Shadow before there was a games Shadow
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>>159337056
>fugged the entire female cast once
Source
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>>159337056
Imagine for a second you got a wish from a genie. And the one thing you wanted more than anything else was to be the coolest character in sonic.

Now imagine this was a monkey's paw.
You get to be Evil Sonic, and sleep with all the girls in the series, the only catch is that at the end, you get totally punked then wiped from existence and you agree simply because hey, you'd get to bang every sonic girl. But only once.

This is what scourge is.

In some alternate dimension, some dude managed to warp reality to get his way and scourge is the culmination of his wish.

The fact that scourge is a little bitch and gets yelled at by Jules and beat down by sonic is literally the comic's immune system forcing out the foreign object from it's continuity.

Being Scourge IS suffering.
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>>159337210
Yup. He also flirted with Amy who was
>>159337291
Issue 150. First story had Evil Sonic, disguised as Sonic, flirt with pretty much every single female character not named Sally, including Amy, who was mentally 8 (Long story)
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Someone needs to update the comic archive now that ScanF is down
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>>159336876
Shadow isn't an evil Sonic in terms of personality. Scourge is.
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>>159337481
Yeah. That entire arc was some fanfiction-level shit, desu. Fitting for a fanfiction-level character.

Thank god none of that canon exists anymore.
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>>159337675
is there another archive I can read everything at?
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Shadow is a DARK Sonic. Scourge is an EVIL Sonic. The difference between Shadow and Scourge is "Darkness" and "Evil". A Dark AND Evil Sonic is pic related.
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>>159337952

that's Evil Shadow though
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>>159337939
Well there's a link in the OP pastebin that's not updated. and Tailskicksass is athing but only goes up to issue 281. If I could upload my Zip files of all the stuff that's come out since the hiatus I would
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>>159338060
And Shadow is Dark-Sonic. Do the math.
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>>159338620
Yeah, that makes him Evil Shadow.
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>>159338948
An Evil Shadow is basically the same thing as a Dark Scourge.
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>>159337952
But he rose from Shadow's shadow
So he's a dark evil Shadow
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>>159339407
Shadow the Hedgehog is Sonic's shadow. Mephiles the Dark is Shadow's shadow. So, Mephiles the Dark is the shadow of a shadow. Sonic's shadow is essentially what Shadow is, but the shadow of THAT is essentially just the potential for pure evil. Which is why Mephiles is an Evil-Shadow, and thus an Evil-Dark-Sonic.
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Light-Good: Sonic
Dark-Good: Shadow
Light-Evil: Scourge
Dark-Evil: Mephiles

Shit: Amy
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>>159339987
Shadow is an antihero
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>>159339987
>Shit: Amy
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>"MUWHAHAHA! You fools must have a death wish! Witness this invincible battleship, built by the hands of a genius, it's power unmatched throughout the universe!"
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>>159339987
>Shit
why isn't Scourge there
he's shit
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>>159340876
WHOSE THIS BROAD
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>>159340876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsS-UDyNKf0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8mM_IP4ByM
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>>159335393

>Once again. Tails is focused on sonic all the time to.

True, but in Tails's case, it doesn't come across as an obsession. Usually, like in Unleashed or SA1 or 06, they would just run into each other during the adventure and would team up. As I've said before, Tails isn't actively searching for Sonic all the time.

>While Amy does hug the werehog thinking its him, she mostly does her own thing for a while before finding out its sonic.
>Amy is hanging out with knuckles and the animals for the most part. Not really chasing sonic in any capacity but does keep him updated.


It is true that they toned her down in those games, but then the problem becomes her not doing anything. I know that Knuckles didn't have any reason to be there, and you could argue that Amy keeping Sonic updated was important, but at the same time Tails could have done that, too. And story wise, Amy doesn't really have much of an impact beyond that one cut-scene where she didn't recognize Sonic.
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>>159341536
It really feels like everything he's built since this has been a downgrade.I mean the Colony Ark is the only thing that comes close and that's not even his invention.
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>>159340876
I wonder how long it took for him to make all of those ships.
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>>159343238
Yes but the point is her stalkerish personality that everyone acts like prevades her character is really not as pronounced as people make it seem. That was more something that evolved in the mid 2000s and then died off later on as more of a crush again.

Also nobody has anything to do anymore. Sonic and Tails are the only characters that really matter, and Tails really only matters to spout exposition or cause weird conflicts. Any of Sonic's friends that show up are just around to show you that Sega hasn't forgotten they exist.

I think Sega's AFRAID to use Sonic's friends in any large quantity anymore because that became such a vocal complaint (despite the fact that choosing different characters was one of my favorite things about sonic as a franchise)
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>>159336542
>started out as "evil sonic"
>it was about as creative as it sounds
>was an one-off character that came back several times because writers didn't have any better ideas
>got turned into scourge by Ian
>was meant to be a parody on shitty self insert OCs
>ended up being nothing more than a shitty (self insert?) OC
>loved by some because he's easy to project your shitty self insert OC onto
>hated by others for being a shitty self insert OC
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Is there anyway to have the selected items take keyboard input by default?

I mean when I'm jumping through gates, I want to be able to just press s then d, rather than having to click the selected item box, then s then d
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>>159343880
>Also nobody has anything to do anymore. Sonic and Tails are the only characters that really matter, and Tails really only matters to spout exposition or cause weird conflicts. Any of Sonic's friends that show up are just around to show you that Sega hasn't forgotten they exist.
Tbh I don't see that changing any time soon, if ever. If anything, 2017 will have all his friends kidnapped and they'll only show up at the end to be cheerleaders or some shit. Wouldn't even be surprised if Classic replaced Tails as the sidekick from here on out
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>>159344134
huh
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>>159335653
>>159335821

>actually has her own character

Let me rephrase that, then. I want to see more of her doing the things she likes and having her own ambitions beyond Sonic in the future.

>Your shit idea is not gonna improve Amy's character at all.

I haven't even mentioned my ideas for Amy's character. But for the sake of it, my idea of where I want Amy to go is having her become more mature and level-headed and become in her own right and aspiring to be like and surpass her own hero, Sonic, in her own way. Just doing the hero stuff because she wants to and likes to, rather than because it might make Sonic like her. Something like that. As for her crush on Sonic, I'm cool with it either fading away, or them getting together eventually. I don't really care either way.

The whole "becoming a hero in their own way and surpassing their idol" bit sounds more like Tails, now that I think about it.
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>Haven't watched Sonic Boom actively.
>But the few episodes I did I chuckled a fair bit.

>Every talks about when Shadow is gonna show up.
>He should be wearing a Hawaiian shirt!

>This episode happened last year and I didn't even see it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeIo4Z_b9iM

They did exactly as I predicted and I loved it.
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Hey /sthg/ what is UP?

What are you guys up how, how are things going, what are you playing?
It's soon to be friday night and I'm firing up some steam games I've never tried before, first time I've tried playing Chroma Squad. I've just discovered Radio Sega so I'm listening to radio shows made by huge nerds that play songs I've never heard before including stuff like Sega Ages arranges of Outrun and Phantasy Star tracks. And I'm a little sad that the sonic scan site is down so I can't read the archie comics (surely they can leave the fleetway stuff up because they're dead) but hopefully that's encourage some people to actually buy the archie comics. Hopefully archie pulled it down because they care and it's not that penders got it pulled or something because if archie are protecting their copyright at least it means they're not gonna get killed by this lawsuit thing.

But yeah, how is /sthg/ today/tonight?
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>>159343880
>That was more something that evolved in the mid 2000s and then died off later on as more of a crush again.

And I'm glad that that is the case. Which is why if they do decide to bring her back completely, they should avoid doing what they did in the early to mid-2000's.

>I think Sega's AFRAID to use Sonic's friends in any large quantity anymore because that became such a vocal complaint

And that is a damn shame. I liked all the different characters (even Amy), because it made it feel like Sonic had come across all sorts of people during his many journeys, and made tons of friends. It's a shame that SEGA doesn't know what to do with any of them, or is afraid to use them because I see potential in all of them.
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>>159345720
Thank God.
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>>159277048
I'd expect, for a first release, a roster and mechanics along the lines of Tatsunoko vs Capcom, so probably about 20-30 characters. Bottom spoiled three on each list would probably be unlockable in some way.

Sega:
>Sonic
>Akira Yuki
>Kazuma Kiryu
>Vyse
>Ulala (w/ summons of other classic Sega characters that wouldn't be able to work in a full slot, think along the lines of how she is in Project X Zone or Doronjo in TvC)
>Blaze Fielding (May as well get one Blaze in if you can't fit in best Blaze, bonus points for DLC Sonic!Blaze costume)
>Sakura Shinguji
>Vectorman
>Beat
>Hotsuma (Real hard tossup between him and Joe Musashi, Musashi would probably be the more likely choice, but I've got a soft spot for the PS2 Shinobi)
>Selvaria Bles
>Magician (House of the Dead)
>Bayonetta
>Segata Sanshiro

Capcom:
>Ryu
>Chun-Li
>Mega Man
>Zero
>Leon S. Kennedy
>Nero (Controversial choice, yes, especially given who's getting the shaft in comparison, but it was done for the sake of being able to introduce more new characters on Capcom's side as opposed to being a TvC/MvC3 retread)
>Masamune Date
>Frank West
>Arthur
>Morrigan Aensland
>Strider Hiryu
>Bass.exe
>Captain Commando
>Amaterasu
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>>159345720
God damn, thank fuck.
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>>159345383
i'm currently watching ross's game dungeon and shitposting. i'll probably play some duke3d later which i finally can play now since some anon here showed me a source port for it.

i'm feeling pretty good in general because things are finally starting to wind down at work for the season which means no more 8h drives or living at hotels

i'm also going to have a few beers and sit here alone by my computer being geninely happy that i don't have to go out today, because i guess i'm a burnout at 22yo
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>>159346080
Looking again, even this is a bit much for a first title, given that TvC only had 26 even after a revision. Either way, I'd be interested to hear feedback.
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>>159344932
My bad, thought you were "turn Amy into a psycho" anon.

But yeah, I do agree in that I'd like to see Amy's development in SA1 continue.
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>>159325403
Where is his bottom
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>>159348781
some where in >>159341536
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>>159337432
>this entire post
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>>159351683
>Amy confirmed

Sweet.
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>>159351683
>shadow
>smiling
What in the world?
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>>159352076
It's Lego my friend, everything is just lovely.
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>>159352076
It's not like Shadow is literally all dark and brooding seriousness. He's a Dark-SONIC. Think about what that would mean to be a Dark Sonic.
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>>159352382
He's a Sonic who doesn't play by the book?
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>>159352076

>finally, a world that's as edgy as I am
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>>159339710
Captain Vidya x Sonicman crossover when?
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>>159352891
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>>159352495
Sonic HIMSELF doesn't play by the book. He just does whatever he wants.
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>>159354618
What a loose cannon
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>>159352891
>Tfw you step on a Lego.
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>>159355269
That's what you get when you mix Speed, Chaos, and the Wind into a single entity. Shadow is what you get when you try to CONTROL it.
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>>159351683
>Big in the back
How much money did Aaron put down for this game?

Also, speaking of Aaron, anyone gonna get up at 8 tomorrow for the stream?
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>>159353172
kek
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>>159346080

Damn good cast
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>>159333427
>Tails
>Sonic
>Not gay for each other.

Sonic and Tails hang around together because they go and save the world, just like Sonic and Amy do, and all the other friends. But when Sonic runs off to do his own thing, Tails just gets back to whatever he's doing while Amy will chase him. Tails is happy to be around Sonic and he'll go find him if he needs him, but he still gives him space. A point most Amyfags tend to forget.
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>>159359497
>A point most Amyfags tend to forget.

Not really, since no one debated that Tails gives Sonic his space. And in games like Heroes, we've seen examples of Amy going awhile without seeing Sonic.
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>>159359950
>And in games like Heroes, we've seen examples of Amy going awhile without seeing Sonic.
You mean the same game she goes searching for Sonic and threatens to hurt him if he doesn't marry her? She's not exactly right in the head, just accept it
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>>159360141
She went searching for Sonic after seeing a newspaper of "Sonic" taking Chocola & Froggy, who Amy wanted to help Big & Cream find.
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>>159359950
>>159360141
She's not really actively pursuing sonic in Adventure until the Flicky shows up. Then she tries to find him just for protection.

In Adventure 2 she's mostly just helping out just like everyone else.

Heroes she's absolutely trying to find him.

In 06 she thinks Silver is him but for the most part she seems to only be looking for sonic because she feels like he'd help in the search for this "iblis trigger" guy.

Unleashed she does seem to be happy to find him but it doesn't really mean she's chasing him. Especially considering she found the werehog.

Lost world she seems more concerned with the animals.

It's really hard see how much she's "stalking" him since every game is kinda based around Sonic but it seems like her chasing him around is mostly used for humor rather than taken seriously. I mean she and Sonic seem to be on pretty good terms most of the time.
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>>159360869
>She's not really actively pursuing sonic in Adventure until the Flicky shows up. Then she tries to find him just for protection.
Her first cutscene is her missing her time with Sonic. The flicky was just an excuse to get to see Sonic
SA2 she didn't want to let Sonic out until he married her
She's a crazed stalker, and the only reason nobody realizes this is that it's played for laughs
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>>159360869
In '06 she absolutely was trying to find Sonic from the start.
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>>159360869
Pretty much. Sonic gets annoyed by Amy's antics, but outside of it, the two seem like friends.

>>159361065
Oh give it a rest, already.
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>>159361381
Therein lies the irony central to Amy's character: Sonic would probably want to spend more time with her adventuring if she didn't try to actively pursue him.
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>>159361990
Maybe, but the girl can't help herself so she's fucked.

Unless they start writing Sonic & Amy like in the comics, where they can be friends despite Amy's crush, but I doubt that'll happen.
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>>159362521
where they can be close friends*
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>>159362521
What about Boom Amy. She's pretty fine too. Even if she is a bit of a grumpy cow.

When is episode 2, by the way?
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Who the fuck set /sthg/ to the Boco channel?
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>>159361065
>Her first cutscene is her missing her time with Sonic. The flicky was just an excuse to get to see Sonic
"I miss sonic. That means I'm obsessed with him and will chase him anywhere and not just that I miss the thrill of being with my hero"
>SA2 she didn't want to let Sonic out until he married her
That was more of gag. She immediately lets him out after he says "no."

>>159361106
I'll be honest. My memory of Sonic 06 is pretty lacking so I'm probably wrong on that one.
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>>159362770
Man, what's on /sthg/ today...

*Changes channel*

>I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, OOOOO YEAH!
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>>159362758
Ep.2 will be at 6:am, on Saturday.
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>>159363145
But it's 11:45am Saturday now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9EBhaULToU
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The freedom fighters are so fucking gay
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>>159363865
This. They need a major revamp to be good. But apparently giving them flaws is too much for some people who'd rather have them be saccharine stale pieces of shit forever
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>>159364159
Why, it's almost like the fanbase is adverse to change.
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>>159364159
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>>159364330
Exactly. It's really weird too. Like take a character like Bunnie for example. She's barely a character. Her sole personality "trait" is "being nice" which is damn near the default for every character. And her robotic limbs are pointless, since while they could make for good personal drama, she just has everything she could ever want anyways, making any sort of angst shallow and pointless, and making her adverse to development

Now if you made her a bitter, angry cynic who's angry at the world and Eggman for taking away her chance at a normal life and have her despise her robotic limbs for making her stand out (And perhaps have NPCs avoid her because they associate cyborgs with Eggman), there's some potential for good drama there AND it gives her a personality
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here we go again
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>>159364637
>Now if you made her a bitter, angry cynic who's angry at the world and Eggman for taking away her chance at a normal life and have her despise her robotic limbs for making her stand out (And perhaps have NPCs avoid her because they associate cyborgs with Eggman), there's some potential for good drama there AND it gives her a personality
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Here is the problem with the Freedom Fighters in the Post-SGW world.

They already had a ton of character development that we never got to see. Bunnie most likely already went through all sorts of angst in the past, but we aren't seeing it because she already got over it. Same with Antoine and his cowardice, and so on with the others.
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>>159365161
>They already had a ton of character development that we never got to see. Bunnie most likely already went through all sorts of angst in the past, but we aren't seeing it because she already got over it. Same with Antoine and his cowardice, and so on with the others.
Exactly. There's nowhere to go with someone like Bunnie. Then again, she was practically dead in the water given her "personality" and the fact she got whatever she wanted anyways
>>159365157
Better than the non character we have now
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>>159364637
k
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>>159364637
>this fucking guy again

making characters angsty doesn't automatically make them "deeper", that's how you end up with shit like pic related.

the freedom fighters are shallow because they rarely get the spotlight so they rarely do anything beyond standing around or tagging along. it's an inherent problem with them now since they were created when sonic had very few characters and have since then become redundant since there are more game characters than they know what to do with now.

it's a shame since the game characters are mandated to be shitty and one dimensional while the freedom fighters can have actual developmen

you can't remove the freedom fighters either since they have always been the main cast of the comic so doing that would destroy the comic
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>>159366519
>responding to him
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>>159366519
>the freedom fighters are shallow because they rarely get the spotlight so they rarely do anything beyond standing around or tagging along. it's an inherent problem with them now since they were created when sonic had very few characters and have since then become redundant since there are more game characters than they know what to do with now.
Which is why they need to be revamped, hence all the changes I'm proposing. I'm fine with keeping them as prominent as they are now if they're changed to be a bit more like what I'm suggesting. I'm taking advantage of the fact they can develop and putting them in places where they can have the most interesting development, and it just so happens that this involves reworking them from the ground up

And you can't tell me giving someone who was built for angst like Bunnie reasons to be angsty is a bad thing. She's a huge wasted oppourtunity of a character, and that needs to be fixed
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>>159366625
i haven't been around much the past few months, is this a regular shitposter?
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>>159366812
This place tends to call people who think outside the hivemind and proverbial box "shitposters"
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>>159366812
He shows up from time to time. Just ignore him, & he'll go away.
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>>159366718
Preboot Bunnie had the whole Uncle Beauregard thing going along whilst she was acting as a spy in something that indirectly tied in or eventually would tie with Matilda.

She also had the whole Robot bully thing going on, however it's effects aren't really shown since the first issues were more silly then serious. She wanted to be Sally's hairdresser.

Reboot Bunnie has the robot thing going along and she's shown to be the biggest family figure to Tails outside of Sonic.
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Is anyone else having trouble logging in to IB?
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>>159367359
>Reboot Bunnie has the robot thing going along and she's shown to be the biggest family figure to Tails outside of Sonic.
And it pretty much adds nothing, since the family figure thing doesn't give her a personality and the robot thing still is shallow because she has everything she could want, so it doesn't seem to affect her negatively. Give her little to no friends and a nonexistent love life and then we'll talk
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>>159367495
Shadow
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>>159366718
Point is more that Bunnie's had her 'angst'. She's shown in the comics to have had a tough time dealing with her situation, and that she's come out of the spot better for it.

The moment you start trying to shove character into meaningless, needless 'trauma' in order to develop their character, you end up doing the same shit that Penders did. And that ruined the comic.
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>>159367850
kek
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>>159367668
>Give her little to no friends and a nonexistent love life and then we'll talk

>This gives character.

On a scale of one dimensional to retarded, how dumb are you?
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>>159367970
>Point is more that Bunnie's had her 'angst'. She's shown in the comics to have had a tough time dealing with her situation, and that she's come out of the spot better for it.
She had it off panel and didn't get to develop. It was brushed aside so they could have her just be there for whatever. It's not satisfying or engaging. If we got to go on that journey, to see her accept the fact that she'll never be normal, to try to find some reason to stay alive, whatever reason it may be, that'd be much more compelling and engaging

And trauma fits a character like Bunnie perfectly and the fact it hasn't been exploited yet is a crime
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>>159368150
It gives her struggles, it makes her angst and self hatred more poignant, and it makes her hatred of her robotic limbs more understandable
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>>159368160
>And trauma fits a character like Bunnie perfectly and the fact it hasn't been exploited yet is a crime
Nah, fuck you. Bunnie not dwelling on her trauma is what made her my hero. Being more than her handicaps
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>>159368160
>>159368321
I'm convinced you don't actually understand who Bunnie is at all.
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>>159366718
i like bunnie because she's bunnie, the southern belle with a heart of gold that also happens to be half robot. if she were to be changed the way you descibe she wouldn't be the bunnie i know and love (no waifu) anymore so it would be the same as just replacing her with someone else. bunnie can still have development and some drama the way she is now but the problem is that she doesn't get enough attention, making her an edgelord won't change that since there's other game characters to fill that role. the freedom fighters aren't even redundant in terms of roles beyond tails replacing rotor as the smart guy and amy replacing sally as the love interest. there simply are too many characters and the game characters take priority

i also don't understand why you think that making characters angry and bitter is the only way to make them interesting
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>>159368321
angst =/= interesting.
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>>159368667
I understand her. I understand that she has a lot of potential and it was all wasted for a bullshit "happy ending" for someone who didn't earn it
>>159368610
>Nah, fuck you. Bunnie not dwelling on her trauma is what made her my hero. Being more than her handicaps
Congrats, she's your "hero". She's also a shallow character with nothing to her
>>159368747
>. bunnie can still have development and some drama the way she is now
Not really
>>159368793
Angst is a natural thing for cyborg characters. In fact that's kind of the whole point, the struggle between the machine and the man. The whole point is to have them struggle and angst over what they really are
>i also don't understand why you think that making characters angry and bitter is the only way to make them interesting
Because it would give characters like Bunnie a fucking personality and struggle and thing to overcome rather than sitting there doing nothing
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>>159368667
Who Is Bunnie then?
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>>159368960
And again, just giving a character a shit ton of angst doesn't automatically make them interesting.
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>>159368992
A generic Southern Belle cyborg who has no personality outside of "Is a southern stereotype" and "is nice" who had all of her potential wasted because the writers were fucking cowards and idiots
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>>159335020
he went back claiming people were only excited for it because of the little weird looking NX logo at the coming soon screen

not people getting hyped the fact the team that handled Colors and Gens are doing Project 2017, BTFOing the cyclefags
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>>159369121
>And again, just giving a character a shit ton of angst doesn't automatically make them interesting.
No, but giving angst to a character who would naturally fit a shitton of angst would actually be fulfilling their potential and giving them SOMETHING
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>>159369156
>The team that handled Colors and Gens are doing Project 2017
There goes my hype.
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>If they make them Edgier they'll be much better characters!
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>>159369320
Unleashedfag, is that you?
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>>159367683
ok
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>>159369126
>cowards and idiots
>what are 'SEGA mandates'?
The writers have their hands tied in that regard - they have to keep the characters and the plot as consistent with the games as possible. That means no stupid, edgy drama to force the characters through to make them 'developed'.

Again, if you wanted that shit, go read the Dark Ages comics, that had plenty of stupid shit happening.
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>>159369367
>>If they make them Edgier they'll be much better characters!
More like,
>If they make them have an actual personality and struggles they become fucking characters
Which is true. The core of a good character is a compelling conflict, and Bunnie doesn't have one. Making her try to find a reason to live, and deal with her condition and accept she'll never be normal and accepted by everyone is a compelling conflict>>159369493
>The writers have their hands tied in that regard - they have to keep the characters and the plot as consistent with the games as possible. That means no stupid, edgy drama to force the characters through to make them 'developed'.
Such a pity then. Shame the FFs can't become interesting characters then. I guess they'll just stagnate and rot until the comic dies.. A pity, they could've been great
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>>159369459
ENCHILADA'D
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>>159369279
>I'd rather have shit than nothing!

>I'd rather eat shit than eat nothing! Shit tastes gross and may give me a disease but it's SOMETHING
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>>159369598
>Such a pity then. Shame the FFs can't become interesting characters then. I guess they'll just stagnate and rot until the comic dies.. A pity, they could've been great
Well, since nothing can be done I guess there's no need to post your shit ideas again then
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>>159369748
>I'll call it shit
>That'll show him
All it shows me is your lack of an argument and your refusal to have your waifu become an actual character
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>>159369748
>It's Better than nothing
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>>159369279
>fulfilling their potential

Look, you can make Bunnie an entertaining character, without making her angst.

And again, just because you're giving a character angst, doesn't mean it makes the character interesting.
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>>159369820
>Well, since nothing can be done I guess there's no need to post your shit ideas again then
It's fun to speculate on what could be and what could've been
>>159369895
>Look, you can make Bunnie an entertaining character, without making her angst.
Entertaining maybe? But an actual compelling fleshed out character? Hell no. Why make a cyborg character if you're not gonna actually give them angst over being a cyborg or have them struggle with the idea that they'll never be normal and live a normal life. That they're not even human, that they're mostly machine? If you were gonna ignore that, why not just make her a fully organic Southern Belle rabbit?
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>>159369850
I don't need to argue because your idea is already so retarded and you SHOULD be able to see that, but you can't. Plus other people have already argued your points better than I ever could and you still continue.

So honestly shitposting is all you deserve at this point.
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>>159368960
>Congrats, she's your "hero". She's also a shallow character with nothing to her
Yeah, just fuck you. Growing up with congenital back disease while reading the comic and watching the show back in the day made her my hero. Showing that she can contribute, she can be seen as an individual, that she has doubts in herself but can overcome, she can love, and she can BE loved. All growth we saw in the character. Sure the reboot is vauge at the moment of her struggles in her new memories, but I like to think they were similar.

Don't talk shit you know nothing about, otherwise you look like an idiot.
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>>159370154
>I don't need to argue because your idea is already so retarded and you SHOULD be able to see that, but you can't. Plus other people have already argued your points better than I ever could and you still continue.
No, it's not. You should be able to see how it'd make her an actual character
>>159370187
>Don't talk shit you know nothing about, otherwise you look like an idiot.
Take your own advice. She's a shallow "YOU CAN DO IT GUYZZZ" platitude for disabled people. She's not even a character, she's the living embodiment of the obligatory disabled character shoved into 90s cartoons
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>>159370269
>She's a shallow "YOU CAN DO IT GUYZZZ" platitude for disabled people.

Yeah, fuck off.
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>>159370082
>It's fun to speculate on what could be and what could've been
My apologies then, I didn't know you were actually speculating how it would be if Penders would have still been writting the comic
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You have 10 seconds to tell my why Crash has Better Games than Sonic.
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>>159370082
>It's fun to speculate on what could be and what could've been
Except you're not doing that. You're pushing awful ideas that nobody agrees with, and then calling everyone stupid because they don't agree with you. At this point you're just shitposting, so here's your free (you), please proceed to the nearest exit.
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>>159370269
>Take your own advice. She's a shallow "YOU CAN DO IT GUYZZZ" platitude for disabled people.
can you put on a trip so i can filter you?
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Making a new thread. Hopefully the new thread will have less shitposting.
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>>159370485
Crash has games still?
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>>159370708
That's what you think.
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>>159370373
I'm not wrong though. She's about as hamfisted as Captain fucking Planet
>>159370560
>It's shitposting if I disagree with it
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>>159370792
>I'm not wrong though.
If everyone else disagrees I think that pretty much means you're wrong friend.
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>>159370485
Fuck off Carridirus.
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>>159370767
That's what I know.

NEW THREAD:

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>>159370792
>IT'S JUST AN OPINION BRO, IT'S NOT MY FAULT YOU DISAGREE WITH IT

Fuck you.
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>>159370913
>If everyone else disagrees I think that pretty much means you're wrong friend.
If 200 people told you the sky was red and 1 person told you the sky was blue who would you believe?
>>159371056
You seem upset I insulted your waifu
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>>159371117
>I can strawman analogy too!

Cute.
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>>159371117
>The color of the sky and whether or not adding angst would make bunnie a better character are the same thing.

Kill yourself, also the sky is whatever the fuck we say it is because we invented the concept of color we coulda called blue red and red blue for all we fucking cared.
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>>159371234
>I can throw out buzzwords too
Adorable. No wonder you can't tell me how Bunnie is a good character (Or even a character to begin with), you're an idiot
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>>159369367
>that loner kid in high school that would rarely talk to anyone
>during breaks he would always sit alone and listen to music
>he knew how cold and shitty the world truly was while all the stupid "happy" people would go about their day being vapid and cheery because they didn't know any better
>all the normal people didn't like him because they were too stupid to understand him
>they didn't know what he knew and trying to explain it to them would prove meaningless
>at the end of the day he accomplished nothing beyond being a pretentious faggot while the others enjoyed life
>of course he had his head too far up his own ass to ever consider that idea

i think he has found his way here now
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>>159371559
NO U
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>>159371610
This is some top tier projection right here. I've never seen anyone so desperate to demonize someone they disagree with
>>159371718
Just proving my point
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>>159371559
Go to a different general then if every character in the franchise in all media is bland and boring to you.
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>>159352076
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>>159371710
Everyone migrate here its much better
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>>159371754
NO U____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
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>>159371907
No. Because this franchise has a couple of good characters, like Eggman and Omega, and frankly the gameplay of the games are fun. I just find the characters to be mostly wasted potential
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>>159359334
Thanks, though there's a few edits that I might consider after thinking it over a bit though, like swapping Sakura for Ichiro to provide more opportunity for more representation from the rest of the series. I'll admit I've probably thought way too much on this though, given that Sega vs Capcom is probably the crossover fighter I want to happen more than any other at this point.
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>>159372032
>Eggman and Omega.
So edgy. Man aren't you a kewl dud
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>>159372032
How are Eggman & Omega not as "bland & boring" to you compared to other characters who pretty much have the same amount of development?

I think the terms you're looking for are, "I have a specific bias and wish all characters within this particular franchise would fit within my bias."
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>>159372201
>Eggman and Omega
>Edgy
If anything they're the most fun characters. Omega especially, which is surprising since they could've made him so generic but made him so much fun
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>>159371754
>This is some top tier projection right here. I've never seen anyone so desperate to demonize someone they disagree with

you obviously cannot grasp the concept of a happy/kind person having any sort of complexity or dept since you equate those traits with shallowness. you may or may not be that guy but you clearly have the same mentality
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>>159372289
>How are Eggman & Omega not as "bland & boring" to you compared to other characters who pretty much have the same amount of development?
Because Eggman and Omega are entertaining enough characters to offset any flaws they may have, and Eggman is really fascinating to me
>>159372359
>you obviously cannot grasp the concept of a happy/kind person having any sort of complexity or dept since you equate those traits with shallowness. you may or may not be that guy but you clearly have the same mentality
False. You can have nice characters be interesting. Bunnie just has nothng outside of "nice" and her happy demeanor is so jarring considering her cyborg status that it makes me wonder why they made her one at all
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>>159372526
>entertaining
>fascinating
so a bias
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>>159373065
Yes, I have a bias. I think characters should be interesting and have actual personalities, is that so wrong?
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>>159373236
Pffffffft ahhahahahahahaha.

Okay. Whatever you say you biased faggot.
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>>159373236
>is that so wrong?
Yes, because you are not making it interesting nor giving personalities
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>>159373236
No, just that what makes them so fascinating and entertaining to you is a subjective bias, not objective. Meaning that your entire argument is mute as all you're wanting is for other character to fit within your subjective bias..
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>>159373348
Tell me what my so called "bias" is. And tell me how Bunnie's personality isn't nonexistant. Because "nice" doesn't cut it. "Nice" is what a 13 year old puts in an OC description page out of lack of originality
>>159373365
But I am though. Bunnie being a bitter cynic who fails to see why her life is worth living and who struggles to accept her condition is a better personality than "nice"
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>>159373508
>Bunnie being a bitter cynic who fails to see why her life is worth living and who struggles to accept her condition is a better personality than "nice"
No it's not, this is a fucking official sonic comic not your shitty edgy fanfiction
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>>159373508
>But I am though. Bunnie being a bitter cynic who fails to see why her life is worth living and who struggles to accept her condition is a better personality than "nice"
no it's not, that's deviantart tier and that's worse than "nice"
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>>159373508
>Singular words mean nothing now.
Why use a sentence when you can use a single word?

Like for instance "Faggot" should be on your bio.
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>>159372526
>Bunnie just has nothng outside of "nice" and her happy demeanor is so jarring considering her cyborg status that it makes me wonder why they made her one at all
she has been shown suffering a lot from being a cyborg when she was younger. she couldn't walk for a while and people would make fun of her, she also had a "i never asked for this moment" with clove so she is a bit salty about it but it's slightly suptle, which admittedly can be a bit too complicated for parts of the sonic fandom. she chooses to not let bitterness consume her over it and has a positive outlook on life instead despite her condition. that is bunnies character, she's had it rough but she chooses to be kind and happy instead of a bitter cunt. this is one of the things that people like about her
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>>159373729
>No it's not, this is a fucking official sonic comic not your shitty edgy fanfiction
How is Bunnie trying to come to terms with being a cyborg "edgy". Is characters having to struggle too "edgy" for you
>>159373782
So giving her an actual conflict and a personality that better fits what she's supposed to be is a bad thing? I'd hate to see what you think is good
>>159373827
No, it's just that a character being "nice" is practically overdone in the Sonic universe. Everyone and their mom is "nice". It does nothing to set her apart
>>159374049
>that is bunnies character, she's had it rough but she chooses to be kind and happy instead of a bitter cunt. this is one of the things that people like about her
And she never struggles with it on panel or undergoes development as all of this happens off panel or via flashback. Bravo, she's garbage
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>>159374163
>How is Bunnie trying to come to terms with being a cyborg "edgy".
because she got the fuck over it

>So giving her an actual conflict and a personality that better fits what she's supposed to be is a bad thing?
>better
Nah, it's what you want, not better,

>Everyone and their mom is "nice"
this is bad? Why do you want assholes?

>And she never struggles with it on panel or undergoes development as all of this happens off panel or via flashback.
See point 1, she got over it and doesn't et it weigh her down
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>>159374163
So every character has to be edgy and "different"?

So you want every character to be an OC doughnut steel, gotcha.
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>>159374163
>And she never struggles with it on panel or undergoes development as all of this happens off panel or via flashback. Bravo, she's garbage

>flashbacks explaining the character don't count as character development
you're grasping at straws now. besides, bunnie being a cripple wouldn't make her a more interesting character
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>>159374521
>So every character has to be edgy and "different"?
No, just the ones who it'd fit, like Bunnie. Have you never read anything with a cyborg ever? Have you never watched anything with a Cyborg in it ever? Do you not understand how it's supposed to work
>>159374484
>because she got the fuck over it
Off panel and in a flashback so it feels cheap and she never developed on panel
>Nah, it's what you want, not better,
I didn't know characters having no conflict was a good thing anon.
>this is bad? Why do you want assholes?
I don't. Bunnie needs something to set her apart outside of her limbs and a bitter, detached personality would fit her well

>>159374814
>you're grasping at straws now. besides, bunnie being a cripple wouldn't make her a more interesting character
But she's always been a cripple. They just never did anything to develop her on panel
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>>159374814
>>flashbacks explaining the character don't count as character development
It's fucking lazy. It's a quick way to "develop" them without taking time out to actually do it
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>>159374962
Oh my god you are so fucking tiring LITERALLY NOBODY AGREES WITH YOU PUT IT TO FUCKING REST
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>>159374962
>Have you never watched anything with a Cyborg in it ever? Do you not understand how it's supposed to work
>All cyborgs should have the same development
???
Bet you'd hate how happy Tokusatsu Kikaider is compared to the animation not being able to appreciate both

>Off panel and in a flashback so it feels cheap
to you
>and she never developed on panel
she has and will but you'd ignore it anyway because it's "not how cyborgs are supposed to be"

>and a bitter, detached personality would fit her well
no it doesn't
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>>159374962
>They just never did anything to develop her on panel
>flashbacks
>don't
>count

besides, she already had that conflict in the preboot universe. they kept the characters at their current state in the reboot and kept them moving forward instead of doing the same shit over again, the flashbacks were meant to establish that their previous development had still occured in the new universe
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>>159375424
>Oh my god you are so fucking tiring LITERALLY NOBODY AGREES WITH YOU PUT IT TO FUCKING REST
>STOP DISAGREEING WITH ME WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>159375480
>she has and will but you'd ignore it anyway because it's "not how cyborgs are supposed to be"
Prove it. The most she ever did was get someone desperate enough to get with her. Antoine didn't even want her at first, she was a rebound and yet they act like it's true wuv.
>no it doesn't
Yes it does. Again, do you not get the basic conflict of cyborgs?
>>159375502
>besides, she already had that conflict in the preboot universe. they kept the characters at their current state in the reboot and kept them moving forward instead of doing the same shit over again, the flashbacks were meant to establish that their previous development had still occured in the new universe
What a quick and easy way to skip the task of bothering to give anyone proper characterization
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>>159376290
Nobody fucking cares anymore and if all you're going to do is reply
>WAAAAAAH STOP DISAGREEING WITH ME
then you're more blind than previously thought.

Please apply cyanide to your throat cavity.
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>>159376290
>Again, do you not get the basic conflict of cyborgs?
Do you not get that people react to things differently? That makes them, you know, individuals?
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>>159376424
>Please apply cyanide to your throat cavity.
>Kill urself because u don't like muh waifu :((((
No
>>159376479
I get that. I also get that if you make a character a cyborg there's things that come with it. Nobody becomes an optimist and just accepts that they're more machine than man. They're fucked up by it for life, a constant reminder that they're lesser
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>>159376585
LOL and now you're projecting after claiming your opponents were projecting earlier.

Fuck off.
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>>159376585
>Nobody becomes an optimist and just accepts that they're more machine than man

Except Bunnie, who did. Now shut the fuck up.
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>>159376690
You seem upset
>>159376718
>Except Bunnie, who did. Now shut the fuck up.
And it was unnatural and dumb and barely developed so they could do nothing with her. She's garbage
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>>159376782
>U mad bro
And you're steadily losing credibility.

Not like you had any anyway.
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>>159376585
>I get that.
You don't seem to
>I also get that if you make a character a cyborg there's things that come with it.
Go look up, "How, as a writer, do you write killing a vampire?"
>Nobody becomes an optimist and just accepts that they're more machine than man.
I'm sure you mean just accepts that you're more man than machine. But yes, people do.
>They're fucked up by it for life, a constant reminder that they're lesser
Fucking wow.
Fuck war veterans for getting a leg blasted off, right? After all, they're lesser.
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>>159376782
Except they did show her getting over when they gave her flashbacks.

Now again, shut the fuck up.
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When you have a cyborg character, yes there is a struggle that they all deal with. Are you Bunny or are you Bot? But at the same time, that doesn't automatically mean that she has to be the biggest edgelord who can never be happy. It doesn't mean that she has to feel "lesser" than everyone else, and that her life isn't worth living. It doesn't mean she can't be strong.
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>thread went up to 802 thanks to the autistic bickering
i want /v/ to leave
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>>159377249
>It doesn't mean that she has to feel "lesser" than everyone else, and that her life isn't worth living. It doesn't mean she can't be strong.
First 3 are correct for a while, and she has to learn that she isn't lesser, that sort of thing. Have it happen OUTSIDE OF FUCKING FLASHBACKS. Because it's tue illusion of development without developing the current character>>159376952
>I'm sure you mean just accepts that you're more man than machine. But yes, people do.
No, Bunnie is 3/5 robotic. She's more machine. Also that "I can write it however I want" excuse falls so fucking flat. I guess that means I can have Sonic lose by having his shoe untied. That makes it good writing since I'm the writer and I do what I want, right?
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>>159377558
>Have it happen OUTSIDE OF FLAHSBACKS

Bunnie has already gotten over it, so there's no point in having her go through it again. Just because you're asshurt that it happened in flashbacks, doesn't mean shit. Now get over it.
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>>159377993
>Bunnie has already gotten over it, so there's no point in having her go through it again. Just because you're asshurt that it happened in flashbacks, doesn't mean shit. Now get over it.
That's the problem. She already had any potential development she could've had in a fucking flashback rather than it unfolding in the book itself. It's a lazy cop out. Then again her whole character is lazy and poorly thought out
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>>159378117
Don't matter. It's happened. Now get over it, & let this thread die.
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>>159377558
>That makes it good writing since I'm the writer and I do what I want, right?
Hey, if you can make it entertaining, you can write whatever you want. And that's entertaining to the majority, not the minority.

>>159378117
So you'd rather just throw out all continuity and start over.

Well it's not that way, so give up and do something else. Because they're not throwing out everything to appease the few rather than the many.
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>>159378650
So I should just accept shitty writing? No, fuck you, and fuck you for being such a retard you can't realize how shitty Bunnie is and how my suggestion would actually fix her
>>159378694
>So you'd rather just throw out all continuity and start over.
At least with her, yes
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>>159378747
>So I should just accept shitty writing?
Well, we have to hear your horrible ideas
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>>159378747
>It happened in flashbacks, so it sucks

Shut up, & get over it
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>>159378747
>WAAAAAAH STOP DISAGREEING WITH ME!
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>>159378747
Write your own comic then if you think it'll be better then. Whining and complaining ain't going to change things when the majority feels that her character development is fine and interesting.
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>>159378853
>Well, we have to hear your horrible ideas
But my ideas are good and would improve her. >>159378938
>Why won't you eat this shit anon? STOP CALLING IT SHIT AND JUST EAT IT ANON
No
>>159378974
Funny, because that's what you and your ilk have been screaming this whole time
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>>159379030
Yeah and now you're screaming it, your point fuckwit?

Or did you think your reply was clever enough to counter it?
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>>159379030
Except it's not really shit, tho.

Now quit being so autistic about something so trivial.
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>>159379029
>Whining and complaining ain't going to change things when the majority feels that her character development is fine and interesting.
Majority isn't always right
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>>159379158
>Except it's not really shit, tho.
It is though. It's lazy as fuck.
>>159379158
>Now quit being so autistic about something so trivial.
>Stop actually trying to make this husk of a character into something worth caring about
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>>159379174
Well, they're right in this case.
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>>159379030
>But my ideas are good and would improve her.
Keep saying that, maybe one day it will become truth joking, that will never happen
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OH MY FUCKING GOD WHERE ARE THE MODS! DELETE THIS AND LET IT END FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

>Inb4 they're not deleting it on purpose and just sitting there laughing at our autism.
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>>159379326
It's not. And your shitty ideas isn't gonna make people like Bunnie anymore.
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>>159379030
>But my ideas are good
Opinion
>It is though. It's lazy as fuck.
Opinion
>Stop actually trying to make this husk of a character into something worth caring about
Opinion

Boy, a lot of non-facts here
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>>159379350
No they're not. She's a garbage character. End of story
>>159379417
>Keep saying that, maybe one day it will become truth
That day is today. Turning her into a bitter cynic who struggles with her identity and her body would make her compelling
>>159379495
>It's not. And your shitty ideas isn't gonna make people like Bunnie anymore.
It'd drive off the waifufags but attract people who like fleshed out characters, so it's a win in the end
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>>159379495
Yes it will. Especially since this is a completely new Bunnie who can have her own adventure instead of just ripping off the old canon.
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>>159379605
I could say the same about everything you've posted too buddy. You don't have an actual argument and are practically grasping at straws
>>It is though. It's lazy as fuck.
>Having characters develop practically off panel and not actually develop in the comic proper isn't lazy
>>159379716
This. A new Bunnie for a new canon. It'd breathe new life into a dead character,
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>>159379615
>muh waifufags meme

Go away, already.
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>>159379615
>That day is today
Yeah no, try tomorrow just that not here. Kept it to yourself
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>>159379782
Let's be frank. The only people that could find Bunnie likable are actual cripples who need validation, waifufags,and 5 year olds
>>159379851
>Stop presenting ideas that I don't agree with
No
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>>159379765
>He started to samefag
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>>159379937
Nice to see you're now blatant with your shitposting. Now please, kys.
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>>159380010
>More than one person can't share the same opinion
This desperation is hilarious
>>159380080
>It's shitposting if I don't agree with it
Not how it works. Just stating facts. Bunnie's the Sonic version of one of those shitty Tumblr posts that's like "DISABLED PEOPLE ARE VALID UWU". That's all she is,
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Yo where's the new thread
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>>159380304
Just kinda funny this "Other Person" that shares your opinion just came out of fucking nowhere especialy when the thread is dead.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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