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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, November 2nd:
619 – A qaghan of the Western Turkic Khaganate is assassinated in a Chinese palace by Eastern Turkic rivals after the approval of Tang emperor Gaozu.
1914 – World War I: The Russian Empire declares war on the Ottoman Empire and the Dardanelles are subsequently closed.
1917 – The Balfour Declaration proclaims British support for the "establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people" with the clear understanding "that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities".


>News
EU4 DD 01/11
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-1st-of-november-2016.979421/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI4] - Après Moi, Le Déluge
http://www.moddb.com/mods/apres-moi-le-deluge

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!TVA2RByJ!tuh0k4SR5gXPLtmxsMd4KZ0at9gY5s5_oV70ui8A4B0

>>[EU4] - Expensive Warfare Mod 1.0
http://pastebin.com/gThqFi54

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6 - 15/09/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V8
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

Old Thread >>159033107
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>>159123404
Reminder to report and ignore your FACE
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>>159123404
Based.
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>>159123404
This desu
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>>159123404
>posted 25 posts early
Can you stop breaking board rules
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Patch 1.9 when
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SHITPOSTERS BUTTHURT AS FUCK
YES
CRY MORE BITCHES
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hmmm
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>win coalition war, but don't take land
>aggressive expansion gets higher
what is this retarded shit
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whats in the hoi4 dlc?
do they fix ww1 type of warfare?
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>>159123951
>Believing Paradox will actually fix anything
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>>159123946
who did you vassalize my shitposter friend?
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I made a decision to remove polish cores and it's not working. Is there something that prevents polish cores from being removed?
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>>159124142
Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła, kiedy my żyjemy.
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>>159124072
>take greek clay from Ottomans
>their rival, mamluks gets so assmad they start a coalition against me
>4 coalition wars, they still have -90 aggressive expansion
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>>159124479
>jan hus
>polish
>the pic isn't even of jan hus
>the pic is literally from with fire and sword
really makes me think...
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>>159123946
>stuff that didn't actually happen
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Love when this happens.
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>>159124570
>i blob into ppls interest and keep blobbing when they attack me!
>why are they mad?

really makes you ponder
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>>159124570
>play meme game
>get memed on
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/gsg/, want to play as some old BC era civilization, or build one. Want to play as Scythians and Sarmatians especially. What mods/games would you recommend?
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Hey i just got HOI4 for 4 dollarydoos. Whats a decent nation to start with? Italy seems kinda cool. Seems weird to me that china/PRC have no unique focus though considering their civil war and war with japan basically starts WW2...
Yeah I'm sure mods for HOI2/3 are better, but i can get into those later on.
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Neat.
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>>159126481
Ck2 WTSMS comes to mind. EU Rome does too. Having never played either I might be talking out of my ass.

>>159126994
>Hey i just got HOI4 for 4 dollarydoos
This was a mistake. Project is de facto abandoned.
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CPRPlus or Better Looking Garbs?
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>>159127268
>Ck2 WTSMS comes to mind. EU Rome does too.
Thanks for answer, i'l try those.
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>>159127268
Its four dollars, i wont miss it that bad if ive fucked up and they just announced some straya DLC, so what do you mean abandoned?
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>>159127453
CK2 WTWSMS is the actual name, typos are evil.

>>159127469
It means they released two under cooked games and decided to cook the more profitable one to completion while milking the other with irrelevant fluff and literal pay to win dlc.
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>>159127594
>CK2 WTWSMS is the actual name, typos are evil.
"When the world stopped make sense"?
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>>159127637
Yeah
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>>159127594
Eh? Can you tell me more about this? I assume the other game is Stellaris? Stellaris doesn't feel unfinished to me, it just feels pretty boring. Unfinished is Sword of the Stars 2.
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>>159127674
It was a carcass of a game at release. It's gotten better or so I'm told, but it's still a long way from a good game. As to what do I mean by abandoned, look at size and frequenc of stellaris patches versus hoi4 patches and see for yourself.
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>>159127889
I played stellaris at release, most of the changes there have been so far are superficial balance changes and some AI differences.
Seriously did you never play sword of the stars 2? Or any early access games? Stellaris isn't really a good game but i don't think it was released "unfinished" at all.
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>>159127997
Sots2 wasn't unfinished, it was a disaster and it really still is. Early access games are mostly alphas this days, no shit they are worse. Stellaris on release hardly qualified for beta status. Even something as basic and necessary as expansion planner was missing. Sector AI was retarded as balls. Ship balance was nowheere to be seen. Half the fucking ship AI modules didn't work period. You may think this is a complete game, I certainly do not.
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Which one pham?
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How the fuck do I make mods to work for EU IV? The old "open with notepad > delete .zip > hab mild fun" don't work no more
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>>159128274
O R D E R
R
D
E
R
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>>159128218
The thing that really pisses me off about sword of the stars 2 was how easy it would be to fix. They ironed out (most of) the bugs over time and they added a lot of the shit they intended to, but their arrogance convinced them the mission system was perfect and needed no fucking changes when it was the cancer that killed the game. Even if there were no bugs or missing features at all, the game is made literally unplayable by the mission system taking control of your ships out of your hands.
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>>159128580
I don't like talking about Sots2. Sots1 is one of my favourite 4xs of all time. It's depressing how much they screwed up and how little they unscrewed in their supposedly finished enchanced edition.
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How would CK2+'s Great Schism mechanics would mash with HIP?
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>>159128973
HiP has long been ignoring everything pre 1000. It wouldn't.
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>>159128274
FREEDOM
R
E
E
D
O
M
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>>159126481
EU4 has that extended timeline mod and imperium universalis
Just wish ET and MEIOU could be made compatible, do you guys think it'd be too hard?
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>>159128340
You need to change 'archive =' to 'path ='
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>>159129792
>MEIOU
>Playing meme mods.
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>>159129954
>idiot devs = shit mod
I like many of their features, esp. their work on de-powering mana.
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>EU IV
>play as Serbia
>managed to fight back the ottoman advance into europe twice only gaining a white peace though
>it's time to take back what is ours - remove kebab
>allied with austria, bohemia, commonwealth and hungary
>Ottomans also in a war against the Marmeluks
>go total war
>RING RING YO SERBIA IT'S YOUR BUDDY RUSSIA YO YOU BETTER STOP DA WAR OR I GO FULL COCKSLAP ON YOU
>Russian army with 60k man - 3 star general just go straight through the commonwealth and occupy entire fucking serbia
>austria got stuck in a fucking succession war with france
>hungary goes into a peasant war
>commonwealth agrees on white peace with the ottomans within 8 months
>mfw I got cevapcici removed

Fuck Russia.
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PLACE BETS

Shit is going down in europe. Too bad I lost my alliance with France.
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>>159130198
>I like many of their features, esp. their work on de-powering mana.
Eh, anon, whatever floats. I'm just memeing about silly people on the internet.
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>>159130276
And this is europe
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>>159129884
Not it but thanks anyway.
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>>159130256
>taking 2 great powers to war with another great power
You deserved it
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>>159130276
>sticking with the corrupt church
KYS, should at least go reformed. If you want to stay catholic, rp wise, reformed is the way to go.
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>>159130328
I want to merge them, how much work you think it'd be?

>>159130430
Post the .mod file and the mod directory.
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>>159130651
Removing kebab is difficult, especially if kebab shits out more kebab every fucking second, no matter how many armies of kebab you remove.

Even more difficult if you're just small Serbia with 15k soldiers and the stupid AI tries to occupy the crim, vassal of kebab, all fucking day.
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>>159130909
>I want to merge them, how much work you think it'd be?
I don't know M&T internals well enough. On surface it shouldn't be impossible, but surface is a bitch to trust.
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>>159130925
>Cyrus
>tfw people think of an insane naked ugly bitch on a metal sphere before Cyrus the Persian Emperor
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>>159130909
name="MEIOU and Taxes 1.26"path="mod/meiouandtaxes1"
replace_path="common/bookmarks"
replace_path="common/buildings"
replace_path="common/colonial_regions"
replace_path="common/countries"
replace_path="common/country_tags"
replace_path="common/cultures"
replace_path="common/diplomatic_actions"
replace_path="common/estates"
replace_path="common/governments"
replace_path="common/hre_reforms"
replace_path="common/natives"
replace_path="common/prices"
replace_path="common/province_names"
replace_path="common/rebel_types"
replace_path="common/religions"
replace_path="common/revolt_triggers"
replace_path="common/technologies"
replace_path="common/tradegoods"
replace_path="common/tradenodes"
replace_path="common/units"
replace_path="events"
replace_path="decisions"
replace_path="gfx/flags"
replace_path="gfx/interface/ideas"
replace_path="history/advisors"
replace_path="history/countries"
replace_path="history/diplomacy"
replace_path="history/provinces"
replace_path="history/wars"
replace_path="missions"
tags={
"MEIOU and Taxes"
"Balance"
"Events"
"Expansion"
"Gameplay"
"Graphics"
"Historical"
"Map"
"Military"
"Missions and Decisions"
"National Ideas"
"New Nations"
"Religion"
"Translation"
}
picture="MEIOUandTaxes1.jpg"
supported_version="1.18.*.*"
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>>159126994
Where did you get it for that low?
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what are some essential mods for EU4
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>>159131060
>path=mod/meiouandtaxes1
>1
>actual path is mod/MEIOUandTaxes
m8
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>>159131139
Voltaire's Nightmare
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>>159131139
Extended Timeline
MEIOU

That's it

>>159130909
I had a brainfart. This is teh file.
http://wikisend.com/download/271820/MEIOUandTaxes1.mod
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>>159131139
There's some common recs
Map mods like that Carthage reloaded one
More Ideas
Overhauls like Extended Timeline, Imperium Universalis, MEIOU and Voltaire's Nightmare
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>>159131214
See>>159131192, your path isn't actually the right path. Did you extract the .zip into its own folder or just click-drag it all out?
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Go, Zyambie Novgorod, we believe in you!

I'm worried Portugal, England and Castile [Spain, soon - they got the Wedding] might colonize Siberia.
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>>159126994
>4 dollarydoos
h-how

Germany is still the easiest to start with, any of the majors are fine. China didn't get its own tree because they knew they could sell DLC for them, which is why only majors have them, see the Commonwealth dlc adding trees for the minor Commonwealth
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>>159131828
China is OP as fuck though
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>>159131989
The generic tree in general is too powerful
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>>159132482
Focuses were retarded to begin with, they should be removed. That'd fix like 40% of the game's essential problems.
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If I reform the AoG into the Republic of China, is there an event or something else that lets me keep all those juice Sino-German tech teams?
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I just pirated EU4 + all dlc but Meiou and Taxes only works for 1.17. When the fug will they update it?
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Any way to remove all cores in a province via an event
Something like any_owned = {remove_core = any}
Anyone?
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>>159135689
any_owned = {
remove_core = { limit = { NOT = { tag = This } } }
}

maybe this could work, idk
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>>159135689
Which game? I know there is an event for this in Victoria 2 as HPM has an event where the Ottomans lose their cores in Egypt.
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How all this stuff manages to work together is a miracle. EU4 mods hate each other, but CK2 mods are incredibly "tolerant".

At this point its a life simulation already.
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>>159136825
holy fuck
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>>159134718
>Me, you and Texas
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>>159136825
>tfw no gf from a life simulator
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Anyone here with an functioning download link for i perium universalis? steam workshop and paradoxplaza only give additional download links that don´t work.
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what the fuck is the difference between ` and ' anyway

why do english keyboards make that distinction
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HPM for Stellaris when
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>>159138095
one is used for example as part of can't
` is used for example as è
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>>159128274
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>takes 3 (around 120 years) characters for two Level 20 Diplomacy chancellors to fabricate a claim in CK2
In the time it took me to get one county, I executed my gay son, had my sisters daughter (who is a jew) rise to the throne, converted my entire court to Judaism and defended my realm from 20k norse barbarians in a """"planned"""" invasion.
I wouldnt have it any other way.
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>>159139305
>converted my entire court to Judaism
Expect crusaders up your ass.
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>>159130925
>polandball memes
lmao this is the average gsg poster now
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>>159139425
>Crusade on one county in Ireland when Jerusalem is still in muslim hands
Sounds like CK2 to me.
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>1073
>suddenly Byzantine Revolt during their war with the Seljuks
>oh shit, Byzantium is finished
>Seljuk Revolt at the same time
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Is HoI4s AI still shit?
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>>159139721
No pls buy
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>>159139721
Yes but pls buy
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>>159139545
>now
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Someone give me a comfy scenario
Any game or mod would do
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>>159140159
hanseatic league ck2
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>>159140159
Knights of Hono(u)r
Denmark
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>>159140518
>comfy
>KoH
Everyone knows it a blob or get eaten game. I would love for it to be comfy.
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Guys my queen is having a baby and I wasn't there
what do
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>>159141154
charinfo 1 and check if you're the parent or not, if you're paranoid you'll think your wife cheats on you every single time
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>>159141231
Well shit he is paranoid
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Friend needs good name for a german controlled danish client state.
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>>159141528
show trade tab fuckboi
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>>159142134
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Anyone else mod th Ideas to EU4 because they seem so lack luster? I mean half of them are never take ones. I just buff things like naval and that, while multiplying everything by 1.5 to make them stand out more as choices.

Thinking of doing the same thing with country ideas too. At least for the smaller countries. Things like double the tax increase from ideas or production, extra missionary, nothing game breaking but to make the game a bit more interesting.
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>>159142393
Lots of mods did that already
There's one called expanded idea groups iirc that's very popular.
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Based Westerners
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You know it's an interesting game when Brabant vassalizes France.
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In real life Moscow annexes Crimea. In Soviet Russia Crimea annexes Moscow.
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>>159142823
>China isn't even in the top 10 world industries
>Phillipines is
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>>159142823
>soviet union post-1991
It always breaks up during the 80s for me
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>>159141528
Nördlichen Küstenwache
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I want to form Germany as Brandenburg->Prussia
is it worth becoming hre? Because I won't be able to dismantle the HRE for less ae
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>>159142823
What ideology are you? This could actually be an ebin mod if they took ideologies into account on crises.
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>>159142823
>liberal democratic party
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>>159142823
>European union
How do they get it to show what union they're in?
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How to get immigration? I pushed all reforms, tried different parties, even tried changing to republic. Nope, not working. Even the lands I have taken in Central America with fertile lands didn't help.
What to do?
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>>159143015
They don't, it's just a coincidence really. I was non-alligned when the crisis started but I left it for the 1st World as soon as I took that pic since I'm a roleplaying fag.
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>>159128274
>>159142823
What game is this modern GSG shit?
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As Scandinavia can I annex the British Isles? I mean they had a claim on it since forever so...
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>>159143305
Is your culture Russian by any chance?
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>>159143309
It still makes sense that way too, the western powers supporting you against the USSR de facto puts you in their sphere.
Also, is joining the first world a genuine mechanic or just more of your redditplay?
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>>159143368
It's a viccy New World Order mod. It's kinda meh at emulating WW2 warfare, but it's still an amusing ride.
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uhh
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>>159143421
Yeah. I was expecting to get Russians in huge numbers, after Soviet Union got established.
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>>159143448
>Also, is joining the first world a genuine mechanic or just more of your redditplay?
There's decisions to pick which world you'll be part of. There's some requirements to join and leave them but they're all about government types, parties in power and relations with the US/USSR. They don't really do much though.
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>>159143748
vycky's bit retarded with it's immigration - it's based on culture, not geography. Russian is not immigration culture. HPM dealt with it by making "alaskan" culture and flagging it as immigration.
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>>159143748
based portugal
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Rate muh NWO

Year is 1997, I only lost India in 83 when they became a great power (they are still allied and still have White Anglo as primary, in 2007 when I can form CANZUK i will absorb them again). I still have the satellites of central india in my sphere of influence anyway, which is a population of around 20 million

I am the 2nd greatest power with the highest prestige and military power

My sphere of influence includes all the former dominions minus canada( a great power)
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>>159143748
HPM changed it so the +400% immigrant attraction is now given to New World cultures instead of New World countries, that's why you're not getting immigrants. He did this solely because he doesn't like the idea of a player led Belgium being able to get immigrants by conquering a New World province and porposely getting his European possessions reconquered by the Dutch.
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>>159144131
>canada( a great power)
wew
Also, does your game crash when you try to release countries manually as the UK or France?
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Is the alt flag guy here?
I need some flags done
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Here's muh sphere
>>159144131


>>159144431
Usually not but it has happened once before
And I think canada starts as a GP
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>>159144256
Ah fucking HPM. I need to alter game files then. He is a real autist for changing the game over few people exploiting it.
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>>159144812
How long did it take to meme that picture?
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>>159144256
Are people that obsessed with immigrants that they'd do something so autistic as that?
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>>159145071
Is it really a revelation for you that HPM, and vicky players are very autistic?
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>>159145412
I knew they were autistic, but not autistic enough to have ugly as shit borders just so a few more brown people can work in their liquor factories
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>>159145412
It's less about autism and more about no fun allowed.
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>>159145608
Not everyone cares about border porn my friend.
>>159145650
How did removal of Byz and Babylon not tell you that he is anti fun?
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Ok, I want to mod EU4 as heavily as possible, but I have no idea how my changes would impact gameplay because I don't enjoy gsg enough to play it more than occasionally.. any EU4 enthusiasts (is such a thing even possible) want to r8 my ideas?

>1356-1856
>24 techs
>everyone has the same unit group
>admin power becomes political power, diplo power becomes economic power
>every military tech upgrades your units and ships adding 1 pip and 1 equivalent power to each ship category (these will be generic like infantry 1 for land tech 1)
>every economic (diplo) tech adds trade range
>every political (admin) tech unlocks a new idea slot for 24 idea slots
>each idea group only has one idea which is free but cannot be revoked
>political ideas will have 8 colonial ideas, each with bonus of 1 colonist, 8 diplomatic ideas, each with bonus of 1 diplomat, and 8 cultural ideas, each with bonus of 1 missionary
>economic ideas will each have a bonus of 1 merchant
>military ideas will each have bonus of 1 free leader

Pic semi related, my half baked first attempt at modding it.. adds 32 idea slots, one for each tech. This keeps the native power assignments and doesn't have ridiculous numbers of leaders/merchants etc though.

r8 my autism
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What are good CK2 mods? Please no autistic shitposting.
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>>159145962
>11 diplo
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>>159144812
What version are you using?
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>>159144812
what mod?
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>>159146145
>>159146194
NWO latest version
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>>159146274
1.11? Are the regions still fucked?
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>>159145962
that's a lot of changes
it's hard to evaluate them all
but keep in mind the reason eu4 starts so late is because the real life big powers like Russia, Austria, the Ottomans and even France had a hard time shining at earlier starts
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>>159144256
I can't find where he added those parameters. I will fix it and go back to my save file in 1890 and play normally.
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>>159146541
I'm fine with that, I want to make the game more gamey and less historical. I also would get rid of all random events because I think they're bad game design.
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>>159145962
interesting premise, although I don't see why you would ever need that many diplomats
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>>159146274
Are states fixed?
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>>159146929
It's...interesting, if a completely different game.
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>>159145962
are you going to upload it to the internet? how am I supposed to know without trying it out?
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>those shitty commentators in the latest session of the dev clash

WHY EVEN VOLUNTEER IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE GAME?
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Spanking the chinks for another treaty port.
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>>159145962
>1356-1856
>500 years of boring gameplay, few events and believable worlds
1618-1818 or bust
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>>159147856
ET is good though
Currently attempting a merge, gonna work on it more during the weekend
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>>159147943
Curious, what are you using? or Are you doing it by hand.
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>>159147353
Well... I guess I just find the modding more enjoyable than the game itself at this point. I'll upload it for testing if there's any interest if I actually bother to do it.

>>159147183
I guess it would be helpful for mass fabing claims and definitely for improving relations and avoiding AE. For example you could expand pretty well in the HRE by spamming the HRE minors with improve relations.

>>159147376
I can upload the current 32 ideas one if you want, although right now it's not playtested at ALL and also if you resign instead of quitting/loading once you have more than like 10 ideas you'll probably crash.
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Ebin
The orange colour is Indian and they are over half the aussie population

>>159147257
>>159146449
What was wrong with them? they seem fine to me, only there are a bit less states than in HPM
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>>159147589
I kinda don't like taking treaty ports in vanilla EU because the provinces are too big. In MEIOU you have those miniscule city provinces and those are fine to take.
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>>159148416
Go to Europe and open regions map mode, pls
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>>159148416
Forgot picture
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Just curious, why is there such an opposition in every/gsg/ op about organizing a mp community?
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>>159148015
Want to see if it works by hand
Not that guy though, trying to merge with MEIOU. Polish can wait, I want to see if it runs.
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>>159148520
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>>159148720
It's been done before, generally with good intent, and has inevitably devolved into actual, non-boogeyman steamgruppes that unironically raid us.
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>>159148720
It's because raid groups use MP as an advertisement to get people to join them.

It's not that multiplayer is bad but that outside communities without anonymity and interest to raid the thread is.
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>>159148720
It's not that. There are multiple MP communities that were born on /gsg/. We just dislike when people bring their interntet drama from those communities back here. So any newfag who starts discussing making one gets shit on as to avoid another drama queen.

>>159148781
Save yourself some time and use, for example, Meld.
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>>159148790
Looks like I'm sticking with 1.07
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>>159148946
I'll look into it, is it an EU4 specific tool?
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>>159149232
Nah, it's just a comparison/merge tool.
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>>159148790
>bosnia has more states than spain
Do you not see the problem here?
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>>159149354
MEIOU and ET don't seem to share that many files of relevance, I'm mainly interested in the mechanics from MEIOU.
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>>159149696
It has folder comparison mate.
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>>159149838
I'll look into it, tool is better than no tool
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Does anyone play hoi IV anymore? I bought stellaris at launch and learned I shouldn't do that for paradox games. Guess what I'm asking is is it good now/Was it ever bad/will it ever be good?

The Europa timeline got old for me and any mods that take you past the ww1 era just had terribly unrealistic combat and strategies for the era, and it really makes me want to upgrade games.
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What if we did hoi3 mp, GSKH checksum...
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>>159150123
HOI3 is better.
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>>159150123
>upgrade game
Mod EU IV I guess, get ET. Or play CK2.
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Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.2 FUCKING WHEN?
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>>159150213
I know what I work will probably come off as heresy but hoi iii looks more like a simulator then a game. The depth is a little off putting for a simple minded eu4 player such as myself.
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>>159131536
I've never seen Spain or Portugal colonize siberia, why would they? America and Asia are far easier to colonize
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>>159150221
Well what I was saying was that ET is really just a skin for different countries and not really a game about more modern warfare or diplomacy
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>>159150654
Play the ancient eras?
Also CK2/Modded, Vicky.
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>>159150543
EU4 can't into AI
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>>159150517
Play EU3 for a bit, just a single level up, then when you get gud, move to V2 and then HOI3. Thats how I climbed. Trust me, even if you just want to play a neutral trading country (what I play) its totally worth it.
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>>159150123
Sounds like you are new. Hoi4 is an unfinished game support for which was all but dropped in favour of more profitable stellaris. Did you try Viccy yet?
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>>159150318
NAPOOPAN PLS ANSWER
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Playing CKII

What year will i be able to kill the umad caliphate as Asturias?
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>>159150873
I really fucking wish Paradox would bring back sliders and get rid of this obnoxious directional trade meme
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how the fuck do you turn a profit in distant worlds?

I'm in the fucking red
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>>159150880
New in the sense I haven't moved on from Eu4 yet. I've got 1416 hours in it.

I own ck2 with a significantly lower 40 hours in it, so I don't have it mastered quite yet. The best I've done would probably be conquering most of Scandinavia as a pagan, or possibly very basic Spanish reconquista. Gameplay in the hre or France seems intimidating to me still.

I haven't touched any other gs yet
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>>159151064
Older games trade is no doubt superior. even just messing with the trade in V2 is fun. Play Korea, max tariffs, then try to buy something and slide it all the way up to 2000. You cant buy it because youre fucking Korea, but the price skyrockets. I like sliders except for how if you have a ton of cash and armies you would just go bankrupt if you are a smaller nation. There was no way to divert money from tech to armies or anything else like land investment.
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>>159150543
it was patched but on earlier versions spain or portugal always colonized the eastern coast of siberia before russia got there
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>>159151083
Has to begin from the start of the game. Dont build a military, lower the tax as far as you can, and let your population grow. Once you hit max pop turn it back up, or increase as you need it. Build military when you find hostiles, paying off 1-2 pirates is better long term. They can bring goods you need too.
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>>159151414
Right but the diverting of money could easily be added as a seperate slider that lowers maintenence up to some limit (your income) as dlc or perhaps even modded.
The trade in EU3 was far better even if the merchant minigame got old.
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>>159151408
Wasn't an insult or snobbing. Just sounds like you want a more modern game that isn't HoI4 or Hoi3. Vicky or DH are pretty much your options.
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>burgundy
>form giant J-shape
>trying to colonize new england
>dutch events repeatedly spawning 35k rebel deathstacks every thirty-to-sixty seconds
>this will continue until i culture shift literally every single lowlands province under my control, move my capital there or the date hits 1635
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>be third world shitholeistan
>already have higher literacy than Italy
You can't make this shit up.
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How hard would it be to mod in a cb to take just one province in vicky?
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>>159152042
>not moving your capital to Holland ASAP
One of the best capital locations
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>>159152262
How so?
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>>159152243
And Belgium.
And Austria-Hungary.
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>>159150873
>>159151776
My mind is very much geared towards conquest. So legitimate question here, what makes being a neutral trading company fun? From what I gather Vicky isn't about conquest and about economic dominance, but to what end? What's the driving force that I'm missing or is that it?
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>>159152368
Non countries don't count.
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>>159152403
>implying a goy would understand
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>>159152351
I dont know if Burgandy can take it but it already has the best base modifiers and Holland can give it more, I think 25%? I mean your capital might be the same as it but Holland has a great location too since units spawned are at your capital and its at the sea.
>>159152403
After a while youll stop wanting all the land because ts annoying to deal with alot. Then youll want good borders, and eventually just a thriving area you live in. Trade companies are the 2nd and 3rd option. Lots of cash to supply that nice border country you have. Its also fun to mess with things without letting people yell at you for stuff.
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>>159152403
>From what I gather Vicky isn't about conquest
Nah anons here are just bored to hell of paining maps. There is plenty of conquest to be had if you are into it. Vicky is mostly about trying to abuse global economy while dodging shit Great Powers throw at you. There is plenty war to be had if that's your poison.
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>>159152679
Ironic because you're playing Arab Union
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Based Cyprus sailing all the way to Mexico to help me put the Mayans in their place
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>>159144971
Yeah, did you see the shit he did on the genocide events?
In game they're fired by the genocide decision only, so if you fire them manually by console or you write your own decision or event to invoke them, you get 50 infamy. You don't get 50 infamy if you do them the "correct" way, through HPM's genocide decision.

It's the most fucking autistic thing in the world, just makes more work for other modders so that he can sleep at night nobody is using console commands.
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>>159153998
Shut up Rob.
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>>159153998
Wait is this real? Why?
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How do nukes work in Kaiserreich for Victoria II?
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>>159153245
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_culture
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>>159154173
Because people who make mods for autism simulators are very autistic.
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r8.
Also, is there a way to get the Romanov dynasty leading Muscovy?
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>>159154443
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_culture
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>>159154701
There is event if you trigger troubles disaster I believe that puts Romanov's on the throne.
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>>159153998
It's actually if you console the event and try to fire it while you have to cool-down you get after firing it the first time grants you the 50 infamy.
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>>159154443
>""""""countries""""" based on culture
>Arab """"""""""nationalism"""""""""
>Arab """""""""""""""""culture"""""""""""""
We wuz kings, lad
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>>159153581
candar spreading allah's word to the americas ? post yurip + Anatolia
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>>159154895
Does it matter? He designed it in such a way that there's code for a condition that never happens in HPM. It's simply unnecessary and weird.
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>>159155073
F-FUCK OFF REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Also, stop meming me about Iran and Anatolia, I plan to genocide them until they're Arab.
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>>159155264
Did italy take somalia from you? You have to get that back you know.
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>>159155264
Well, at least annex the Ottoman Empire entirely, that punished blob is depressing.
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>>159154843
And how do you trigger the trouble disaster?
Also now that I think about it, isn't Rurikovich dinasty getting married to a girl from Byzantine imperial dynasty also happen around the same time? Is there an event for that? It's was a pretty big deal for Russian rulers, having blood connection to Roman empras and shiet.
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>>159155440
I didn't get cores there, "H"PM memed the decision so it's only the caucasoid Arabs.
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>>159155662
>event for that
Not that I recall, there is a reclaim Constantinople event that gives you claims, and refugee event that everyone gets, but I don't remember that one.

>And how do you trigger the trouble disaster?
What is google.
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Should I make Dagestan Circassian and then convert Shirvan to Georgian for the most aesthetic cultural borders?
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>>159156527
Yes
Georgians are white and based
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Anyone know why I can't produce units?
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>>159156918
check your slides
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>CK2 Byzantines use the Palaeologus flag
>but not really
why
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>>159157058
Construction on full.
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Just took some more clay from the Golden Horde
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>>159157312
post tech
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>>159156918
you need regular clothes and other goods it says it right there
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>>159157312
how are the revolts going, ivan?
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>>159157312
leave finland alone REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>159156918
6th on prestige means you're 6th in priority to buy goods.
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>>159157312
Nice bird mana, friend
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>>159158057
>bird mana is important
very good meme
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>>159158171
Well, yeah you need to genocide the minorities.
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>>159158286
>culture conversion is genocide
>Germ*ns genocided the Pomeranian Slavs
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>>159157461
Level 6 in all areas.
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>>159157312
>>159158505
Friendly reminder that Russian, Ukrainian, and Belarusian are meme languages and Ruthenian is the only true East Slavic language.
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Should i? They are pretty close to GP status
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Are Condottieri supposed to be like this?:

As Manchu tribe, I allied Korchin and took down the other 2 Manchu tribes. I had to cede some territory to Korchin so they'd join, which made them powerful.

Then Korchin attacked Buryatia, which would have falled easily... Except, I gave them my cheap condottieri and destroyed Korchin while not at war with them. Thus, I effectively destroyed my ally, which was too big and would have prevented my expansion.

Meanwhile, their opinion of me did NOT change at all. My 20K soldiers were raping their land, and yet they still loved me.

What gives?
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>>159158505
post a picture of the technology mapmode and hover over your country while also including western europe in the screenshot.
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>>159158614
Germeme must be always grosser, lad
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>>159158450
Well that's true, but it's heavy persecution like the French did to the Occitan.
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>>159158614
>the Cape Colony government has a placed a formal request with our authorities in Memel
>authorities in Memel
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>>159158681
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>>159158849
Burgerland is German too
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>>159158935
based ottoman empire
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>>159158935
>ottomans ahead of everyone in yurop
>despite the renaissance institutions firing off in italy
working as intended, no otto bias here
also have a free march Ottomans
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>>159158925
For some damn reason my capital is in memel
I moved it from Königsberg to Berlin in eu4 but mostlikely the converted messed something up
Ill change it to Konigsberg later
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>>159159183
Just like how it should have been
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>>159158935
so you managed to diplo annex 2 vassals, take exploration ideas up to the 5th idea, and keep up in diplo tech without having renaissance? And annex all of Kazan and Novgorod and still keep up in admin ideas?

also, 240k manpower?

This isn't an ironman game, I think, because your achievements button is greyed out. are you console commanding mana or console annexing nations? If someone did the math I am sure this is impossible.
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>>159159628
Not to mention that he is gaining money while having 240k manpower
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>>159158614

>ReichsKRIEGSflagge
>Not actually at war
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>>159159628
I'm occasionally ch***ing for mana. I annexed the vassals by force.
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>>159159895
The Teuton war machine never rests
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>>159160046
>I'm occasionally ch***ing for mana.
ABSOLUTE
FUCKING
TRASH
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>>159160046
thas gay desu
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>>159160046
>I'm occasionally ch***ing
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>>159155768
take it back from them anyway
also they are caucasoid
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>>159160046
How is anything an accomplishment then
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>>159159296
who did you start as in eu4? catholic or protestant?
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>>159160046
>Being so bad you have to cheat
>in EU4
>as Muscovy
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>>159160386
Just released a load of meme states in Ethiopia to free up some infamy for this great war I'm in.
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>>159127245
>Not communist
Dropped
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>>159160608
go fascist and have the grand finale of your game be conquering spain
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>>159159021
EEEEEEEEEEEEEBBBBBBBBBBIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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>>159160542
As the Teutons
Flipped to protestantism to form Prussia, and switched back to catholicism when i had the chance
The Only orthodox nations left are Russia and Malta
Italy and, France are reformed, England and Sweden are protestant
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>>159158614
post their pop map
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>>159160851
I'm not a blobber, anon.
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>>159160608
post liquor factories laddo
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Napoleon Legacy mod guy. I wish I could get any migration in South America you bastard.
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>>159161075
> annexed persia and half of anatolia
>nah ima not a blobber
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>>159160903
>The Only orthodox nations left are Russia and Malta
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>>159161007
There are North german
North America is Mainly German, with the West Coast being Scottish to the North and Spanish to the South
Mexico is English
Patagonia is german too, while the rest is split between Andalusia, Brazil and Spain
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>>159161358
they are*
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>>159161640
>insert janny copypasta
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>>159161640
You need to understand, this is "his" corner of the internet
He has nothing else in life

I feel sometimes sorry for him, untill he start the shitposting
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EU4: I don't form colonial nations anymore.

I have 5 cores in South Africa and Moluccas, but they don't form a nation. It worked previously with Brazil and the Carribean, but no more...
Looked it up and I found a couple of posts about it being a bug, but they dated from early 2016, so I don't know if it's really the case.

Anyone know what it is?
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>>159161640
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>>159158614
Is this a mod? Or a converted game?
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>>159162086
>you don't get to bring an mp group
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>>159162131
Converted Eu4 game
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>>159162068
There have literally never been colonial nations outside of america/australia.
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>>159162221
Show world map, and if you can, upload save file so we can take it for a spin.
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>>159161358
>46M pop
>growing 200K
>in 1840
I see nothing wrong here desu
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>>159162312
Ill make a map and post it in like 10 minutes or less
>>159162390
Dont blame me, the conveter is meant for Mare Nostrum, not the Prussian update
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>island hop across the Pacific as Ming by 1570
>Took nova Scotia from Ireland and working on Greenland
>Pushing up Africa towards kebabistan
Feels good man.
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>>159162068
Colonial nations can only spawn in the new world or australia/new zealand.
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Does anyone have the paedophile link for Theatrum Orbis Terrarum with 1.8?

That turkish forum only links to steam and paradox now...
>>
How do you westernize properly as China in HPM? Is it possible to avoid the Warlord's era?
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Is there a way to see what wars are going on in CK2, like in Vicky2?
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>>159162775
>paedophile link
Can someone give me source on when/where did johan drop pirates=pedophiles? I keep hearing the meme but never seen a sauce.
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>>159163163
Someone drop the cap
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>>159163153
There's a tab for that in the ledger
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>>159162775
nvm, found it, if the turks don't come through, the russians do
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>>159163898
Turks are based and white
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>>159161294
And I still have enough infamy to genocide the Turks!
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>>159164092
>9.64
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>>159152042

update: my manpower has been 0 for over forty years. a 112k rebel stack just spawned.
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>>159162312
Here is the whole World Map anon
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Trying the Common Universalis mod for the first time, which nation should I play as?
Note: I would like to play as a nation which can reform into one of the major players during WWI
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>>159164771
Why are the Ainu still an independent nation?
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>>159164889
Idk, i think that they revolted and Japan didnt reannex them in time
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>>159164771
>That Gross Germania

Well done lad.
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>>159164862
Italy is always fun. Rich as fuck, challenging to blob, ottomemes, France and HRE right next door to make mid/lategame interesting

Bonus points for Papal State. Great events, position and ideas. The shitty part is not knowing what your next ruler will be
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>>159165247
>Italy
>A major player in WWI
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>>159165247
I read that as Ireland and I was like...
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>>159164092
Show ethnic map

Also do you really think the genocide decision will be enough to arabise Anatolia and Persia? Unless you mod it that is.
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Go home royalists you're drunk. You don't even own Buckingham palace any more.
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>>159165338
>Implying
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>>159164771
bretty good
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>>159165723
Why did the Russian flag change a lot?

And I thought the Imperial flag was the one used from the 16th century until 1917. Is this incorrect.
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>>159165931
Same reason like France
With every political change a new flag was introduced
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>>159166058
what were they?
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When the next thread is created, can a link to the download page of my mod please be put in the OP? I'm here everyday, so I am available to answer questions and suggestions.
Here is a link to the download page (version 1.4.1 for CK2 version 2.6.2): http://www.mediafire.com/file/a3bpgcn42kydu0i/BTWK_1.4.1.zip
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>>159165931
lol the gold/black/white flag wasn't even an official flag, the traditional white/blue/red flag has been used since the 17th century by various entities within Russia
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>>159143683
So many of these events are worded so poorly that they make no sense.
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>>159166167
Fuck off discord shitposter
You just want your mod in the OP to start drama, you faggot
Litteraly kill yourself, suck some niggers asshole
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>>159166167
>some attentionwhore from the teenagers discord group
Fuck off.
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>>159161358
should have annexed them
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>>159166449
Man you use the word teenager a bit too much
How old are you? 12?
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>>159165723
>literally a white flag
Why did they change it?
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>>159166309
It makes sense to me, your wife thinks birds are cool and wants you to waste money buying her a pet

>>159166390
Chill out
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>>159164771
I like it
an alternate word where europe won even more
how about a culture map of the world
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>>159166167
Sorry you have to deal with the shitposters. Thanks for the mod, its top notch.
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>>159166167
>willywaggler
Fuck no.
Honestly I think that asking to be put in the OP should immediately block you from being there forever as it shows you are an attention whore.

Despite that though you are a fucking discord faggot.
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>>159166763
Chivalry is a great game
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someone post the discord link pls
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>>159165621
I won't mod it, and I hope so.
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>>159166763
Anon dont start up the old shit. It's a decent mod, he wants to be in OP let him. You are only inviting more flame wars with your whiteknhigting.
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>>159166889
REMOVE THE KURDS
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>>159166934
"If you kill your enemies, they win." t. Anon, Current Year
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>>159166889
it's not really arabizing it ethnically though, you're filling it with egyptians. So culturally yes and I guess that's all that counts
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>>159166934
>old shit
Less than a month ago.
But you are probably one of his discord buddies he asked to come here to shill for his shit.
Fuck off.
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>>159166751
>>159166934
Thank you guys!

>>159166390
>>159166449
>>159166763
>>159167081
Whether or not I'm part of the Discord doesn't matter. I am merely trying to share some quality material here.
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>>159167137
Yes it does matter, especially when you ask your buddies to shill your shit here.
Fuck off attention whore, kill yourself.
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>>159164771
How did Castile get BTFO so hard?
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>>159167137
fuck off you and your abortion of a mod
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>>159167137
get out
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>>159167034
>kil
>win
Please stop deluding yourself. There are no victors in our little holy wars, just victims. No profit is gained, no honuor protected, and quality becomes more and more shit.

>>159167081
We had a pretty quite week, I'd prefer to keep it so, wouldn't you?

>>159167137
>Whether or not I'm part of the Discord doesn't matter. I am merely trying to share some quality material here.
Of course it fucking matters. You literally called for a raid in that pic. Let the mod stand on it's own two feet.
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>>159167137
>Wheter I'm a part of a shitposting group and I ask people to astroturf here doesn't matter
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>>159167448
>We had a pretty quite week, I'd prefer to keep it so, wouldn't you?
>trying to threaten people whit organized shitposting from your group to force your shit in the OP
Go fuck yourself. Including his shit in the OP won't stop any if his buddies from shitposting here and even if it did wouldn't be worse. He can go fuck himself and be an attention whore in the forums if he's so desperate for approval.
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>>159166646
Ill make a culture map tomorrow maybe, gonna catch some sleep now
German coltrolled territory is mainly german, with the german-russian border being latvian-eistonian, and that slovaks, magyars, slovenes still live on their historical land
The Benelux and german controlled burgundy are mainly flemish and german
Danes, poles, wallons and lithuanians are a thing of the past
Patagonia is german, North south america is really mixed becouse of the constant wars between the iberian nations,
Mexico is almost 100% british, same for the scottish colonies
Spanish N America has a lot of natives and africans
German NAmerica is mainly german, with that that i protected some of my favourite native tribes (cherokee, sioux, blackfoot etc)
Australia is German, abbos in the center
Asia is almost unchanged

>>159167267
France was allied to granada
Portugal was constantly fighting with granada until it formed Al Andalus
And for some reason castille, which was allied to me in that time, decidet to go against their christian friends on the west, instead of the muslims on the south
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>germanic pagan inherits rome
>this event happens.
a bit overdramatic desu.
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>>159167660
You are really bringing down the tone of the thread man
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>>159167660
You realize that you are shitposting right now, right?
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>>159167735
Go to reddit or the forums then, bitch. Take your attention whoring friend with you too, these places are better for him.

>>159167858
>no u
I don't give a fuck.
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>>159167920
>Go to reddit or the forums then, bitch.
I do, I post on all the cool forums. 4chan, Reddit, 9gag, ebaumsworld
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Fighting Africans is so fucking frustrating. They always have these long sprawling nations and then they just avoid battles and use wastelands that ignore fort zones of control to appear behind your army and start recapping all of their land.
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>>159167137
Don't worry Willy we'll have our own OP with hookers and blackjack

And we will purge the server of all the spies from this pitiful place
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>At least 24% jingoism
Alright, how do I achieve that without elections?
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>>159167920
>>159168052
You two fucks deserve each other.
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>>159167080
I think we genocided this one province a bit too much. I didn't even know this shit was possible.
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unHPM aint even that bad
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>>159168125
It will depend on if the mod changes the politics, you'll have to check the POP files to see what pushes them towards it.

In vanilla the big factors are revanchism, being at war with low war exhaustion, and having neighbours with larger militaries than you.
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>>159168163
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As long as there are still people here who appreciate my mod, I will continue to post here, and I've seen several of them so far.
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I wish I could play Victoria 2. It's look fun.
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>anon wanted to get an actually good mod in the OP
>ends up accidentally "raiding" the thread only because he chats with some people over discord

wew
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>>159168492
Or at least as long as your discord friends are willing to come shill your shit here, attention whore.
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>>159167137
give Discord link I want to join the shitposting
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>>159168205
Will these laddos join me diplomatically or do I have to REK them?
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>>159168598
>was part of radical yugoslavia
>names himself after the shit they use to spam the thread
>literally asks his shitposters buddies to shill his shit here
>dindu nuffin
Hi discord.
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wew
Also, the Palatinate became Emperor, so no idea why Castille inherited the lowlands and they didn't
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>>159168740
>>was part of radical yugoslavia
I don't think so, the only hting I know him for is the mod
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What are /gsg/s opinion on South Africa's Dev diary?

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-dev-diary-south-africa-together-for-victory.979679/
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>>159168432
>plebian sodomizing (as in, a plebian in the process of sodomizing something)
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>>159168598
This should surprise no one tho. Inability of anon and social communities to productively interact is a long standing issue of 4chan and /gsg/ in particular.

>>159169051
Pretty sure he meant to say "fucking plebs"

>>159168740
You seem reasonable. I honestly don't give a fuck about his mod, and only know that it's somewhat not shit and that he clearly supports it. Do you really think shit that went in this thread alone worth not including it in the OP?
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>>159168586
Why can't you
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>>159169023
Those focuses look pretty neat, too bad the rest of the game is broken and memey as shit
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>>159168318
mod?
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>>159168654
Never mind, did it the old fashioned way.
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>>159169756
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=698650453
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>>159168654
Rek, I think. Even though you have bedouin as accepted, it only counts primary cultures IIRC.
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>>159169802
>>159169824
Neither option does anything.
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>>159168740
it's quite a decent mod though. So what if the guy is a moron??
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If I conquer new land as USA and make slave states, do they become confederate cores?
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>>159170013
Because there's no other state in Arabia kek
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>>159170082
I think so
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>>159170147
Apart from the British. The Boers even offered us an alliance, I accepted because they could help us when we reclaim Africa from the imperialists.
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>>159170336
How'd the Boers get to form SA, I thought they always get BTFO
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>>159170485
I have no idea, they seem to be a demographic majority though.
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We are watching you /gsg/
We always are
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Can any mod pros tell me if there's a way to make a decision to add a wargoal in vicky 2? There's a couple decisions I'd like to make that involve it
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>>159171136
spooky
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>>159171136
what did he mean by this?
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The Arabization of Iran is going insanely fast. It's actually pretty depressing, killing an ancient and proud culture, I don't know how the Jews do it.
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>>159171448
That prhase...

Do I know you?
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>>159171494
>Arab
>Proud culture

Pick one
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>>159171591
*Aryan
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>>159171591
I think he was talking about the Persians.
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>>159171818
Jews are doing jack shit to Persians tho.
>>
Give me an Idea for a good, interesting game in NWO lads
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>>159171935
Annexing the USA as Trinidad would be pretty interesting.
>>
So I just played HO4 for the first time and holy shit does it suck.

Battles are utter garbage, they're incredibly opaque and it requires to much effort to see what exactly went wrong. The lack if indicators to shows whats going on is also dumb ass fuck, you could lose half your territory without every knowing because there are no messages

Not even going to get into whats wrong with planes/ship combat
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>>159172039
So you're saying it needs dumbing down some more
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>>159171494
It already happened back in Muhammad's age m8
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>>159171924
Yes but they are killing ancient and proud cultures (Europe). He's just drawing a comparison
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>>159172303
Jews are killing European culture?
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>>159172173
why not just have one air zone and automate all air missions
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>>159172173
He's saying literally the opposite
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>>159145962
please upload
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>>159172173
what game is this?
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>>159172672
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=698650453
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now that the dust has settled, which is the superior starter paradox game?
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>>159172839
I want to say EU4 but they've added so many new mechanics to that since it came out that it's actually pretty complex now
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>>159172839
Play EU3 for 10 hours then start playing Victoria 2
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>>159172173
Did they redo the air zones in new version or is this a mod

I played at release and it was fucking disaster with USA being literally 3 zones or something stupid like that. Better fucking put more provinces to africa
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>>159173030
Mod
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>>159172975
But not even in a good, in-depth way. It's not complex in the right way, it's still grossly simple, there's just a metric tonne of it.
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What is the quickest way to use console to fix border gore? Also my faggot duke keeps beating up russian horse lords and made my empire look retarded, I was thinking about releasing an independent buffer state up above alania, but maybe i should just give it to Rus?
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What is the Danubian Federation in KR? I centralized as Austria but want to remain a sizeable power so I don't know if I should go down that route
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>>159173205
Institutions are a cool new mechanic. It's a hell of a lot more interesting than tech groups and Westernisation.
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>>159173503
Did institutions replace tech groups? Is that why North American natives invented cannons around the same time Europeans did?
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>>159173823
Pic?
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>>159173115
>needs a mod for such a basic feature

LMAO
probably performance issues
>can't have more than 15 air zones in the world without lag, nice engine gg
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>>159130256
This shit happens all the time in Vic 2

>Greece
>Years of planning
>Managed to snatch tunis before france
>child soldiers fill my Greek phalanx
>GB and France go to war with turks over some shit
>GB and France stomping, I run in trying to take as much as I can
>GB and France win war, get money or some shit
>I still have 30k more men than kebabs
>telegram from russia
>helo, we war now
>200k russians come to the aid of the turks
>i stop playing the game
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AFPguy, you around? Need a quick flag for an EU4 campaign
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>>159174192
It was in a game I did recently, but I got far past that point, never screenshotted it, and it was a converted game with sunset invasion, but I made sure to make every new world nation the appropriate tech group, so I don't know what else it could be.
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>>159174228
>playing Italy
>allied with the French and the British
>go to war with the Ottomans
>France and Great Britain intervene and help the Turks
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>>159174827
When Natives reform their government, they get ALL the institutions + tech from the European country neighboring them

Yes. they literally get updated to the lastest shit with the click of a button
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>>159155126
>Allah
Look in the bottom right, next to the HRE symbol. I'm just an off-brand Blurple.
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>>159174872
>trusting the anglo
>ever
serves you right.
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>>159174827
If there was a Sunset Invasion country with land in Europe they'd spread the institutions to the rest of the Americas
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Which is best?

Ukraine is in bed with the syndies

I'm thinking Germany or seeing what my other options are
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>>159175084
what game is this?
>>
r8
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>>159176035
0/0
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>>159175682
what game is this??
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>>159176035
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>>159176180
wasting too many men in siberia
>>
discord
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>>159175993
East India Company
>>
How plausible are Suomenusko nomads?
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>>159176180
What exactly do you get out of playing EU4 with cheat mana or easy mode? The standard game is already easy as piss
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>>159176580
in what game?
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>>159174228
>>159130256
There should be modifiers that stop Russia and Ottomans being allies in 99% of campaigns.
Historical enemies that gives -100 to relations or something.
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>>159176180
what game is this?
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>>159176729
but in what game?
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>>159176694
CK2
>>
are we being raided
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>>159176110
DH Kaiserreich
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>>159177042
what does CK2 stand for
>>
>>159177207
Ckill Kyourself 2
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>>159176950
In every game.
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>>159177256
can you give an example?
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>>159177080
We're always being raided
Like, literally
Every post is a raid
Every poster is Rob
It's all gone man
We went too far
We the shitposters now
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>>159177110
what does DH stand for
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>>159177631
Darkest Hour
http://store.steampowered.com/app/73170/
>>
Is there a game that about Japan over a very long period of time?
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>>159173297
It's just Austria-Hungary except with more sl*vs in the government.
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>>159177495
Star ocean 5
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>>159177925
what is a sl*v
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>>159177617
t. rob
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Dear collegues. Can you explain me what is happening on pick related.
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oh dear god what the fuck is happening
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>>159178153
what game is this?
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>>159178223
rekt
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>>159178253
(you)
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>>159178223
what game is this???
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>>159178153
Looks like you have negative cash flow and are retrofitting some frigates.
Looks to me you have some resources there and a potential colony too which is nice.
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>>159178348
that wasn't me though
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How do I break into India for those trade provinces when these two fagss have a game spanning alliance and have over one hundred and thirty thousand standing men compared to my foce limit of 55?
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>>159178585
Ally Ming or just take from the minors like Orissa or Malwa or something
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>>159178585
what game is this
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>>159178472
I am sorry, in my hubris I assumed the problem is obvious. It was an honest mistake. By the way colony is SOL. I am not kidding.
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>>159178223
This game is going place
>calmly colonize and expand into Morroco
>take Aragon clay to form Spain
>suddenly the stars align and France, Austria and Hungary all want to fuck up Osman
>suddenly Aragorn under PU with England, I contest it and win easily
>AND THEN
>get france under a PU
>all in the span of 5 years
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>>159178783
in what game?
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>>159178585
If you're not so technologically ahead that you can fuck them, get some non-aligned provinces from Indian minors and go from there.
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>>159178772
That message is displayed when there is no shit in there.

Material is probably on it's way and stuck on some ship.

Just go check the polymer source and follow freighters.
>>
Lublin is rightfully Irish, right?
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>>159178772
can you please tell me what game this is?
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>>159179014
It's been like this since before hyperdrive. Any advice on resolving it? This is moon of my homewold - only source of polymer I have.

>>159179109
Op can. But he is a faggot.
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*baaaarf*
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Dear HPM, the following provinces in Canada are named wrong, please fix them.

#75;Millertown, Newfoundland: founded 1900, would recommend calling Port-Aux-Basques
#69;Edmunston, New Brunswick: Petit-Sault until 1851
#52;Sudbury, Ontario: founded 1893, would recommend calling Sainte-Anne-des-Pins
#49;Dryden, Ontario: founded 1895, call it Lake of the Woods or Rat Portage
#2594; Pickle, Ontario, named for Pickle Lake founded 1928, call it Patricia
#41; Brandon, Manitoba, founded 1882, call it Assiniboine
#30: Regina, Saskatchewan, Renamed/founded from Wascana 1882, Qu'Appelle was regional center before that
#33;Asquith; Founded 1903, call it Battleford
#34;Saskatoon: Saskatchewan, founded 1882, just call it Saskatchewan (after the river)
#35;Maple Creek, Saskatchewan, founded 1880s~, region is the Cypress Hills
#22;Edson, Alberta, there was literally nothing here until the 20th century, the earliest name I can find is "smallpox camp" from 1870 because a bunch of Indians died there while on the way somewhere else, merge the province with #28 Red Deer
#25;Banff, Alberta, founded 1884, call it Bow Falls
#26;Calgary, Alberta, founded 1870s~, call it Bow River
#29;Cardston, Alberta, founded 1887, call it Medicine Hat
#2595;Iqualuit, NWT: called Frobisher Bay till 1987, province would be better named Baffin or even Nunavut
Regards, your friend Dave Watson.
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>>159179174
wait so your polymer mining station is halted because of lack of polymers?


Have you tried redoing the construction?
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>>159179285
t. filthy quebecoiser
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>>159179373
I'm from Manitoba tho
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>>159179330
>wait so your polymer mining station is halted because of lack of polymers?
No, polymers are on Colony, this is it's moon.
>Have you tried redoing the construction?
No. But in my defense I came upon this idea after we started this conversation but before you posted it. Thus I am not completed retard. I even fucking hired smugglers to deal with lack of polymers.
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>>159179424
Oh.

Well there's plenty of rural Frenchie towns so you're either a filthy quebecoiser, filthier native, filthierer metis or filthiest filipeno
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>>159179229
what do you call american indians?
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>>159179690
Genetic dead-ends
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>>159179535
in what game?
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>>159179527
That was going to be the next thing if it's not a polymer station then just redo the construction and hire smugglers to bring in some.

Sometimes what happens is if you colonize rapidly is that logistics ships can get stuck to basically infinite journeys trough the stars with prewarp engines.

Do you happen to be building stuff that takes polymers or have a second starport?
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Who /60%/ here?
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>>159179748
>Do you happen to be building stuff that takes polymers or have a second starport?
When I starded it quite a few others mines were scheduled.
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>>159179730
real life
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>>159179853
sometimes that's also the problem with low throughput resources that if you build a shit ton it just takes time for stuff to arrive. Also if you are building (or retrofitting) ships that might also be sucking resources right at the source.
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>>159179979
Where can I legally buy this "real life"?
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>>159180027
Nah, it appears it just glitched out. Other stations worked fine, and after rebooting it it started getting build asap.
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Which one lads? Do I go full Mosleymeme?
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>>159171494
HPM dude needs to add an assimilation national focus, or a decision if national focuses are not moddable.
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>>159180896
MOSLEY
O
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L
E
Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-j1Dg2nKKY
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>>159180896
What mod gives you that liberty equality fraternity background? Also, mosleymeme
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>>159181184
I prefer to think as cultures as primarily ethnicity based, that's why Afro-American and American are different cultures.
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>>159180896
Blair
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>>159181883
things
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How do I into trade in EUIV?
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>>159182334
Same way as everything else - conquer everything.
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lel
how did they fuck up this bad
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>>159182334
Dominate your trade node.
Conquer important centers of trade, estuaries and high trade power provinces in it. Rape merchant republics.
Give control of your important centers of trade and estuaries provinces to burghers. Build marketplaces.

Place merchants in trade nods that flow towards your main trade node and steer trade to it. Build light ships and protect trade.

Trade wars are never worth it and taking trade power from peace deals is almost never worth the 60% warscore.
Owning one of the end nodes, or Constantinople, Seville or Zanzibar is great.
In pic related I am pulling trade from Moluccas to Constantinople.
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>>159181184
HPM won't touch culture conversion other than to nerf it further. Rob tried to fix this feature but /gsg/ memed on him when it didn't work out.

Vicky2 is fundamentally broken in this regards, you would need a whole new game based more centrally on POP identities to actually play out your ethnic cleansing fantasies.

pic unrelated
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>>159181973
can
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>>159183493
Dominate one node ahead of your capital one. This removes a lot of competition from your capital. Having only one node in the chain after capital is very good, which is why constantinople is good.
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>>159183940
>Rob tried to fix this feature but /gsg/ memed on him when it didn't work out.
hello rob
Why would you want to be able to convert culture for 100 diplo mana? It completely ruins the moral argument over whether you're prepared to genocide 5+ times to completely change the ethnix make up of an area.
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>>159184024
ONLY
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>>159184172
The problem is literally 0 assimilation happens over primary culture cores. The place where this is most obviously an issue is Prussia/Silesia where historically many Poles were Germanized. Similarly, if you conquer a territory and hold it for 80 years you should reasonably expect a small fraction to take up your language and custom, but Vicky can't do this properly.
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>>159184230
GET
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>>159183940
Well then someone else smart needs to make a submod
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>>159184629
BETTER
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>>159184625
The assimilation event tries to do a decent job of it, complete with removing cores. If one wanted to start work somewhere I'd start there.
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>>159184651
>someone smart
>/gsg/
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>>159127245
ewwww
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how do I prevent Prussia from becoming groB as Russia in HPmeme
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Post more blobs please lads I need my fix
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How the fuck you tell vassels exactly what province to siege? I know there is a way with Art of War but I can't find the button for the life of me
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>>159185915
Click the province and there's a "no objective" button or something on the right
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Zambie Navgorad refuses ta die.
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ayy senpai where u at the crusade started 45 mins ago
>tfw every game always devolves into "kill the turk" at some point
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ugly games
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Tough times are ahead for the young Danubian Federation. Germany is balkanized. The Kaiser has fled to Afrika. Italy is united under the flag of Syndicalism. The French Commune is the main power in Europe.

While the Syndie powers have been focusing on Africa since the fall of Germany, they have made mention of spreading their disease to the rest of Europe during The Third International.

The Eastern Alliance of the Danubian Federation, Russia, and White Ruthenia are all that stand in the way of Syndicalist domination. Things have been peaceful for now, though Italy has recently been talking about it's rightful claim to Venice...
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>>159186169
that is some grade A clusterfuck of borders
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what the fuck are doing pope
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how do i git gud at EU4?
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>>159186564
acquire mana
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>>159186734
this.
Managing mana and playing with coalitions are the only things to do in EU4.
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>>159186468
Is this a tag switch from your America game? If you don't know what I'm talking about then ignore me.
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Why are my family members always trying to kill my spymaster
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Rate
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>>159187497
based
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Back on my realm...
New Siena (Serbia) was annexed. New Lucca (Bulgaria) is following path. And Provence (I got a single province from Savoy on the war against Venice) was fed some tasty Avignonese land. France was too kind guaranteeing Avignon and honouring the call... almost no AE for that.

Swiss was formed from Milanese lands. I got some ugly AE for that, but who cares. And there is a coalition (mr. popeman is on since, like, forever; Hungary since I betrayed them. This is the backbone, everybody else joins and leaves, often through bribing).

What remain of France are three little pieces. Burgundy is blobbing like there's no tomorrow, but when the Dutch Revolt kicks in... speaking about them, who in sane mind would force Savoy to release an OPM Milan from a province the nearest Empire has a claim on? And they got

England isn't doing so great, they lost Ireland. Scotland doesn't exist anymore, but Denmark is cockblocking England from forming UK. I'm rooting Sligo, Kildare and Leinster kill each other and finally 26+6=1.

Mr. popeman is still on a coalition against me. Eventually he'll leave... "soon". He's allied with France after all, and my vassal

Burgundy is a force to be feared, but they keep doing stupid shit as releasing an OPM Milan from Savoy from a province I have a claim on. It was just like Byzantium.

>>159186504
Partly my fault, since I'm helping Poland a lot. I'm rooting for them.
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The army statistics of the Eastern Alliance ground forces. About 4.4 million men and 8300 tanks fielded across four armies.

In other news the Conservative-Nationalist parties took power from the Liberals in the recent election. This is most likely due to the populace's perception that the Liberal government was being to soft towards Syndicalism. Perhaps the biggest blunder in their eyes was the government only providing material and volunteer aid to Germany as the French were crossing the Rhine. Many thought that the Federation should have stepped in to help Germany at this point.

>>159187092
Not not that anon
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>>159187497
Beautiful, it must have maximum fort level in every province as Hoxha would want
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>>159170336
>Swedish Congo
Kek
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>>159187690
>not Ironman
c'mon son
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>>159187497
SKANDERBERG
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>>159187936
>Ironmeme
c'mon son
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I wouldn't like to be in Austria's shoes - Wien is the Protestant centre, but Austria refuses to abandon Christ for Luther.

Reformation kicked in Ireland.

>>159187936
Again, while I've been thoroughly and truly spoiled by let's players, I'm still a noob on this game. It's easy mode, and in some circumstances, I save before trying shit, try it and if it doesn't work, I reload. I'll stop doing that when I get some practical knowledge.

I refuse to use commands, though.
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>ywn save the holy land
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I've lost account on how many times Rome has been sacked. Mr. popeman still didn't realize his alliances are a burden.
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>>159188296
I don't really play eu4, how hard is it to keep christianity totoally together? can you prevent the reformation or can you just annex protestant countries after they convert and then slowly convert them back?
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>>159188705
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>>159188725
I have a florence fetish
you're right in the high renaissance now too

are you gonna colonize anything? what are your final border plans?
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>>159184971
What event is this? How do I activate it? Where is it in the files?
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>>159188705
I'm doing that right now, anon. :^)
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>>159188787
>tfw you kill the turk with the GRAND ARMADA
Now we just wait for the truce to be over
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>>159183940
No Czechia 0/10
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>>159188994
you are literally doing gods work
I don't know why more eu4 players don't focus more on knocking the fuck out of the turk
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>>159189073
I've been doing this about 5 playthroughs in a row
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>>159189173
latin empire when
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>>159189173
Dealing with osman before he blobs out of control is just mandatory no matter who you are
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>>159189330
Fucking coptic Constantinople.
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>>159188964
It's a state wide event that offers you to attempt assimilation at cost of infamy and bad mojo with core owners. Pretty sure it's vanilla. It's slow and somewhat rng. I can't thell you where it's in the files cause I don't remember it's ID.
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>>159188910
>what are your final border plans?
Not sure. I think I'm going full Rome.
I might even wait until I can form the Roman Empire to form in sequence Florence, Tuscany and Rome.

>are you gonna colonize anything?
No, but I plan to steal some colonies from whoever does. Pic related are my plans, I might change them completely.
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>>159189563
Even the yellow man does his part in killing eternal turk
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>>159189598
Never mind it's a PDM event I'm misremembering.
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>>159189639
>new sicily in the north
>new tuscany in the middle
>new venice in the south

what the fuck did you mean by this
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>>159189732
japs are white and sugoi
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>>159189860
>new tuscany in the middle

I see no problem with this
The other two are retarded though
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Well shit. Just as I thought we would roll over the Germans, the Austrians, Russians, and Entente all declare war on the Internationale in quick succession. While Germany is currently being pushed back, once Austrian and Russian reinforcements meet up at the front, it's all over. I'm going to start building some coastal forts on all of my possible beachheads, hopefully that will help against the inevitable invasion if/when mainland Europe falls.
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Yup. This kills the coalition.

>>159189860
>>159190154
Immigration.
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>>159190250
you should leave south america alone. we all know how south america worked out. people say the spanish did what they did because there were no women, whatever. I think it's just the heat. you should only colonize north america in order to make proper postcolonial settler states.
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>>159190160
How many divisions you got?
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is their any way to fix getting an entire region when there's only a core on one province?
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>>159190546
>muh heat affects IQ revisionism
*tips australia*
*tips boers*
*tips the fact the native abos were retarded, despite inhabiting the same climate*
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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I will allow no one to interfere with the destiny I have planned for this colony.
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>>159191448
Pdm has an event on core return that offers you to give back non core lands.
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You have to love the border gore that comes from having 3 dynasties control all of Europe.
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>>159191623
Based Perfidious Albion.
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>>159190546
RP answer: race is not what makes Rome great, but culture. You can be fully Etrurian or Roman, you can be a cocksucking Greek, you can be even a farm animal stinking rotten cabbages like in Shitzerland or a boatperson from Maiorca speaking some "Crapalan" shitty Italian dialect. But as long as you are a Roman, you should be above them all.

Non-RP answer: dude, I'm trying to have fun with a game, and I don't care about races IRL. If it helps you to sleep, pretend I'll genocide the locals, slaves and former colonizers.
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>>159191694
thank you. the border gore was driving me crazy
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>>159191615
that's not really what I said. I mean, of course, the only fucking proper civilization in the americas was in peru and south mexico. But just something about the heat, maybe something about the general look of things, idk, it was a hectic time and so they didn't colonize properly.
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>>159191865
They didn't colonise it properly because the Spaniards were Moor rape babies who only cared for money and sex, only the Germanic races possess the necessary skill of self-propogation. Wherever Germanics go they build wells, Hospitals, dams, Bridges, wherever any other race goes they only seek short term happiness.
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>>159192382
rome
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THEY FUCKING DID IT! The Spanish Armada managed to invade the British Islands!

Spain will probably be the final boss. Or my buddy Commonwealth.
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>>159191818
>and I don't care about races IRL.
Why are all EU4 players /r/fullcommunism rejects? You'd think the period the game tskes place in would educate them about Euro supremacy, but I guess not.

Oh wait, they recently made it so the inner Congo is as advanced as Europe, on the request of said SJW "fans" didn't they?
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>>159191865
There was too much wealth to steal in the Spanish colonies, they developed the entire colonial structure into one devoted to funneling wealth to Spain, in contrast the English and French colonies in North America had nothing worth taking and especially in the English ones the settlers were motivated to build themselves a new life in a new place.

Notice that the parts of French and English North America that were explored and developed for resource extraction (everything west of the Mississippi) are shitholes filled with rural poverty.
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>>159192615
woah

Rome was the European equivalent to Muhammed. They conquered some other uncivilised peoples (note: Like Muhammed they couldn't conquer Germanic areas) and now, centuries later they're admired by the same backwards peoples who ruled it.

Tell me, what sort of "empire" can be crushed by a handful of Germanic tribesmen? An Untermensch empire.
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>>159192701
>in contrast the English and French colonies in North America had nothing worth taking and especially in the English ones
What about the monopoly on furs, a good that had previously been an exclusively Russian market, and the vast gold mines of Australia? They still got settled, they still became extremely profitable countries right to the modern day. This meme than the Spaniards were capable of colonial governance is absurd, Spaniards couldn't even stop the Portuguese from rebelling.
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>>159190160
It seems like I was completely wrong. The Austrians were a paper tiger, and barely helped Germany at all. Although they opened up a new front in Italy and defeated Syndicalist Italy, they did nothing to reinforce the front that mattered, the German front. They might be able to pull back some troops and retake Vienna, but Berlin has just fallen so it's ultimately over for Germany.

Russia on the other hand hasn't been able to do anything after completely rolling over Ukraine since they are in an alliance separate from Mitteleuropa, so they don't have military access through White Ruthenia and Lithuania to get to the Western Front.

>>159191050
48 infantry divisions, all with artillery
12 marine divisions
12 garrison divisions, guarding the coast
I've built up a pretty large industry and defensive infrastructure, so I should be able to defend against any attack, at least for a while. I use more rare materials and oil than I produce, though, so once the rest of the Internationale falls, I won't have anyone to trade with to get those materials to run my industry. Hopefully by that time I will have built some nukes.
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>>159192912
lol
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>>159192912
What sort of "empire" can be crushed by literal subhuman slavs?
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>>159193384
They were crushed by the Germanic sister civilisations of Britain, America, Australia, South Africa and Canada, who were acting on behalf of the global Jewish finance and political cabal. The slavs just picked at the bones and called it a victory, despite having more than a 2:1 loss ratio.
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>>159192669
>if you don't care about races, you must be a /r/fullcommunism reject
>if you don't care about races, you believe there's nothing different power-wise between Europe and other places
Here's your (You). Now go back to /pol/.

>>159192912
Not the one you're quoting, but
>Tell me, what sort of "empire" can be crushed by a handful of Germanic tribesmen?
An overextended and decadent country with huge borders to protect, a decadent elite, unrest and a taste for civil war since that Octavius bastard shat on the very foundation of the country.

Also, one can argue that who crushed Roma weren't the Germans but the Turks.
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>>159193554
>Implying that the Soviets wouldn't have won without the Allies
>Picking at the bones

Wow, the entire eastern half of Germany and the actual capital of Germany. If those are the bones what the hell is the actual part?
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>>159193384
>Oppeln
*Opole

>Danzig
*Gdańsk

>Königsberg
*Kalinigrad a shame, since King's Mountain is badass as fuck
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>>159193782
Stalin begged America and Britain to start a second front. Had they not Germany would have won easily.
http://spartacus-educational.com/RUSsecond.htm
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>>159193782
The US literally supplied the entire Russian army for 1 year. Not only that but they lendleased them massive amounts of machine tools and trains, they also sent foreign experts to Russia and helped them rapidly industrialize their eastern territory. Not only that but the allies secured the Mediterranean and forced 1/3 of German troops to the Western front. Without the Western powers ( USA ) Russia would have been totally fucked.
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>>159193554
>The slavs just picked at the bones and called it a victory, despite having more than a 2:1 loss ratio.
Remember that a 10:1 loss ratio is still a loss for you if the enemy has 200 other troops to squat on your capital.

(This reminds me the War of the Triple Alliance...)
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I want to blob across Rhineland and play as a non merchant republic. Given that the only formable nation in the are is Westphalia I figured I will just create a custom nation as I have never done that before.
What should I call it /gsg/? I'm having trouble coming up with a name that isn't Confederation of the Rhine.
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>>159164771
Damn, that Kingdom of Jerusalem.
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>>159194117
what mod is this
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>>159193656
>waah someone who recognises the historical superiority of europe!
>fugg off /pol/!!!
Try to make it less obvious you're from /r/paradoxplaza, laddo.
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>>159194190
>Russia
>Europe
wew.... laddie....
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>>159194190
that map is missing the turkish balkans and arab iberia and mongol-dominated russia and the fact that the levant and egypt and north africa used to be in the european cultural sphere
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>>159194010
>Had they not Germany would have won easily
What kind of drug are you on wehraboo?

The battle of Moscow, the turning point of Barbarossa, happened a year before operation torch, and three years before the invasion of mainland France and the opening of a second front. You're delusional if you think they only lost because Britain opened a second front.

>>159194023
This one I can't fully argue, since I don't actually know a lot about the involvement of American supply within the USSR

The only statement on the matter I can give is that the first official lend lease to the soviets was 16 days before the Battle of Moscow, too late to actually matter in the turning point, and by that time most of the industry was already moved.

American supply may have had a crucial role after that, and may have carried the USSR, but frankly I don't know enough about it to discuss it.
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>>159194117
Lotharingia
Black Forest
Austrasia
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>>159194190
>turkey is a victim of European imperialism
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>>159194514
>implying they wouldn't have won had the afrikacorps been in europe instead of defending Italy's shitstain of a colony
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>>159188296
have you tried playing without cheating? i'm sure it's not so easy for you when you do
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>>159194590
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>>159194190
>Partial European influence
How does that not apply to all of the orange countries?
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>>159194190
>Never colonized by Europe
>Liberia

well...................................
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>>159194680
I specifically included that operation torch was after the turning point. Without any "germanics" in play Italy would have still fucked up somewhere in French Africa, so the same divisions would have to be sent.

You could make a case that without Italy they could have won, I would say its a toss up there.
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>>159194713
>have you tried playing without cheating? i'm sure it's not so easy for you when you do
Yes. However, I'm still too ignorant about the game mechanics, so I'm using some save-scumming both to compensate that and as a way to get practical knowledge.

Eventually I'll use iron man... I feel more confident with the game. I'll pick an easier country, though.
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>>159194826
>>159194837
It's Vox, laddos, it's not going to be accurate. If you count the French campaign against Korea and Dejima then pretty much every country has been under some form of influence.
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>>159194837
They were colonized by Africans lad
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>>159195030
Japan and South Korea were both occupied by America, and North Korea by the Soviet Union, so I don't think even those count.

MacArthur had almost total control over Japanese public institutions.
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>>159194910
My point is that if Germany didn't have to hold the stillborn Italy up they'd have been able to win, as it stands the Soviets lost upwards of 25 million troops and the Germans lost 10 million on both fronts.
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>>159195190
>USA
>Europe
>murican/yuropoor/wherever you are education
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>>159195190
MacArthur is neither white nor based. If not for him my Japanese porn wouldn't be pixelated.
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>>159193354
As I predicted, as soon as got past Germany and her puppets and bordered Germany, our advance stalled. With nearly 400 IC, 200 divisions, tech parity, endless manpower reserves, and a restored empire spanning from Kiev to Vladivostok, Russia alone could be the downfall of the entire Internationale.
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>>159195208
I'll give you Italy being a shitty ally, possibly the shittiest ally ever conceived

Even though the germans lost less men, they still ultimately lost the war, becoming the "nation" it is today
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>>159195418
>as soon as got past Germany and her puppets and bordered Germany
Meant to say "as soon as we got past Germany and her puppets and bordered Russia." Tired as fuck.
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>>159195473
Libya was a second front, Normandy and Sicily were third fronts, sithout those Germany would have won.
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FROGS BTFO

SAY GOOD BYE TO 22 DIVISIONS

GET KUK'D
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>>159195282
If the USA doesn't count after 1776 then three quarters of northern America need changing to orange.
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j u s t
u
s
t
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Give me a fun idea for an HIP or EU4 campaign
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>>159195652
I brought up Torch being AFTER the battle of Moscow several times already

It didn't matter, the multiple fronts only sped up the inevitable
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>>159195473
>>159195652
Despite being a shitty ally, I wouldn't say Italy did more harm than good. Sure, it opened up additional fronts for the Axis, but in the same vein, the Allies had to commit troops to those fronts to cover them. Not to mention, 6 million men, no matter how shitty, is nothing to scoff at.
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>>159195320
The article that censors nip porn was passed well before the Americans occupied Japan
These days it's just that none of the nip politicians want to be known as the one who uncensored all the porn
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>>159195869
>6 million
Hmmmmmmmmm
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>>159195676
?
Most of the west was Mexico (Spain) or owned by France
The portion that was taken by independent US is minimal
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>>159195418
>tfw we will lose all of our gains in Europe just as quickly, if not quicker than, we gained them
>tfw all of mainland Europe will be ruled by a fascist Russian Empire
I don't even know what to feel at this point. At least I have my shitty island to turtle on and hope for the best.
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>>159195816
And I'm saying had the Afrika corps never been conceived that the tanks used therein could have captured Moscow, Leningrad didn't have long left and Stalingrad was a pile of rubble.

The Afrikakorps weren't just some standard niggers, they were the elite panzer korps, had they been on the Eastern front the battle of Moscow would have gone completely differently.
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OH NO! THEY'LL CALL THE COALITION MEMBERS!
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>>159196139
Do you have any transports? Quickly move all your units to the Rhine and make an ebin last stand, I assume you have enough transports to get them out if neccesary.
Also, did you go full Mosley?
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>>159196139
game?
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>>159196524
I still doubt that they would have been able to do the same fears that they did in Africa

Would Romell have even been a decent general with harsh winter? Would the tanks be able to handle the weather?
That wasn't even the second front that Stalin asked for, which was Normandy. This entire argument is around Stalin not needing a second front in Europe, and he obviously didn't.
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>>159196646
>Do you have any transports? Quickly move all your units to the Rhine and make an ebin last stand, I assume you have enough transports to get them out if neccesary.
Yeah, I have transports. I've already pulled out though, since I

>>Also, did you go full Mosley?
went full Mosley dictatorship, which made my dissent skyrocket and popped revolts in several places on the home islands. I might try to ship some troops back over now that the situation is under control, but I don't know if they will even get there in time. Although we are making some gains in Italy and the Balkans, the Russians are advancing at a breakneck pace and will likely be in Paris within the next month or two, unless something changes.
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What's a good idea group for Florence?

>tfw 6/6/6 leader
It's heavenly.
>>
pops
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Monarchism is the answer.
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>>159198429
Only with a good monarch.
How will we ensure only the worthy rule?
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>>159198480
If only the succession of a monarch was strictly defined and the designated heir groomed from birth to rule. Alas, I can not conceive of such a notion.
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Tell me lads, is this a good meme for a Groß KleinGermaniums?
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So my first game of DW where I got past early game is not going well. It seems I'm way behind, unless I misunderstand it.

How hard, if possible, would it be to recover from it.

It also feels the game is in mid game for me but late game for leading Empire, is this correct assesment?
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>>159198608
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>>159198608
If that heir were to die? Would you accept someone raised to different ends? Or if the designated heir turned out to be retarded, crippled, or simply temperamentally unfit?
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>>159198915
Not really. That's just population, colonies and economy. You gotta see military power and tech.
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>have a big hard dick for the cold war all of the sudden
>EvW is dead and NWO looks like absolute meme dogshit and i get mad whenever I see anyone post that garbage mod
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>>159196959
Berlin, Prague, Munich, Budapest, Vienna, Belgrade, Sofia, Venice. Within three months, all have fallen to the Russian bear, their peoples once again facing reactionary oppression. And through all of this conflict, which has been dubbed the Second World War, millions have perished.

Nearly 3 million French, 3.2 million German, 1 million Russian, 900 thousand Italian, 840 thousand Austro-Hungarian, and 100 thousand Briton soldiers have perished in the conflict, not counting the countless civilians casualties that are commonplace in industrialized warfare. And in conflicts elsewhere, millions more have died, whether be in the Indian Subcontinent or the United States.

I'm done for the night, I'll return tomorrow. Hopefully my half a million brave British lads can hold the Russian menace on the Rhine so that the French may regroup.
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>>159198796
Why so much Bulgarian and Ukrainian land? Just take the peninsula and Kaisertantinople.
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>>159199403
>>have a big hard dick for
Why do you insist on using such /v/eddit vernacular? It demeans us all.
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>>159199297
Military is pretty much the same story. No idea where to view research score side by side, but it seems to match the general situation too.
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>>159198796
That western border is terrible, completely defeats the purpose of Klein Germaniums (aesthetic borders). Also, pointless blobbing into Thrace and Crimea. It would make more sense for Germany to take Denmark, Bohemia, Lithuania, or Austria, just to name a few examples, before taking those two useless pieces of land.
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>>159199678
That's historical Thrace, and the intended amount of land to make Gotenland from
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>>159199773
Kys autismo. I'll say whatever I want. Also kindly fuck off and never respond to my posts again, got it?
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>>159199830
It isn't that hard to catch up with the other powers, depending on your settings of course, but if you ever come near the insects they will probably mount a large scale invasion.
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>>159199868
>Also, pointless blobbing into Thrace and Crime
Colonies are never blobbing
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>>159199991
I see. Thank you for your input, I'll see if I can do anything useful with it. Enjoying the game quite a lot, it's very interesting how difficulty curve is more about separating signal from noise in the UI while the game itself is intuitive.
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>>159196886
Rommel would have had no problem. He's a logistics wizard after all.
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>>159198796
>big germany blob

WHOA MAKE SURE TO POST EVERY MONTH ON /GSG/ NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE
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>>159200383
>he doesn't like Germanyblobs
>he thinks thats a blob
>>>/reddit/
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>>159200383
>You will never be so butthurt you open the console and form a gross germaniums and type about two dozen different "satirical" messages on top"
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>>159200565
>>159200569
Sup reddit. Enjoying your first month of 4chin? Keep posting big germany it's so funny the 59292034912048i2305491248092341-07r130485713048567496290347562390145rthj time!
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>>159200198
I personally like the economy aspects, having all those resources, and ship designing.
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>>159200842
>v2 germany is reddit
>eu4 byzantium isn't
wew
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>>159200983
They're both reddit, faggot.

If you're not playing and posting DH and HoI you're a fucking casual.
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>>159200983
Germany ain't but it's really easy while ERE is often unbeatable for even the best players since so much is rng.
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>>159201232
Starting as Prussia is tedious due to the sphere minigame, I often just abandon it and wait until the brothers war comes around.
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>>159201315
>Starting as Prussia is tedious due to the sphere minigame
Am I being memed? I mean yeah the sphere mechanic is shit (and honestly I don't get why Vicky II is so highly praised there's a lot wrong with it, sphere mana being only one problem) but it's still piss easy to do if you don't have ADHD. Vicky II is like entry level /gsg/ though. So long as you aren't autistically managing your pops Vicky II is boring as shit. I haven't played it in years because everything that should be fun (actual combat, colonization, spheres of influence etc) is fucking boring. And it suffered form the same mana problems that EUIV has, it's just less blatant.
>hurr you don't have enough sphere/colonial mana! Wait for the meter to fill up again!
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still need to figure out that font issue
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>>159201942
>sphere/colonial mana!
Wow, anon, you do realise you control how much of those you get, right? You get sphere "mana" from techs and investment, you get colonial "mana" from ports and ships.
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>>159202059
>replying to such an obvious bait
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>>159195798
Please m8s

Dead mod unrelated
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>>159202059
Sphere 'mana' isn't mana but it is an autistic as fuck (and unfun) game of bacon buttons.
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>>159202351
>bacon buttons.
What?
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>>159177836
sengoku you weeb
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Has anyone here tried forming Italy as one of the minor states like Tuscany?
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I wasn't paying attention and it looks like Denmark was taken by rebels and forced to spit Iceland and Gaeldom. Now UK is forming.
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Which is best for a vanilla+ style of CK2?
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>>159202947
Yes.
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>>159203302
Did it end up being prohibitively difficult, or relatively easy?
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>>159203257
>CK2
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>>159202525
Things like the stab and mercant buttons in EU4 or Realm Peace in CK2. Press button, get bacon.
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>>159203257
CK2+ or HIP, I like the former, many like the latter
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>>159203658
HIP seems to be the more invasive mod. I'm a bit leery of some of the advertised changes, but a lot of it seems sound.

CK2+ offers a lot of things that I've seen integrated into some of the major setting overhauls, and overall sounds promising.

Any more in-depth opinions you can offer?
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>>159204027
yeah how about CK2 is a shit game
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>>159203615
Thats an extremely unusual turn of phrase and I have no idea why you'd think that was obviously apparent what you meant.
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>>159204195
Because it was used it criticisms of CK2's conclave.
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>>159204107
That's not in-depth.
I want you to articulate your hatred, you fishmonger.
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>>159204324
it has as much depth as that shit game
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>>159203615
I have never heard of a more rebbit way of explaining things
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>>159204027
HIP doesn't have depth for anything pre-1000 or so. CK2+ has HIP-like historical believableness on observer but has more meme options from what I understand, like druidism and some nice flavor events all around, and more in general than HIP.
CK2P has the Schism unlike HIP which is huge for me.
HIP's map is generally considered better if somewhat laggier, although miniswmh is much better with lag.
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>>159204319
By whom?
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>>159204552
People used it here before and apperently a paradox dev said years ago, using that term, that they strove to avoid these buttons. And hey if it gets the point through (obviously it doesn't)
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>>159204593
I only found this term around the release of conclave and never looked for reviews on other sites so it must've been either /gsg/ with a cap or a review someone linked / quoted.
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>>159203578
Medium difficulty in the beginning and the later the game went the easier it was.
Somewhere around 1720 it gets boring as fuck.
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>>159204673
>And hey
It's amazing how through such subtle changes in language you can always tell a redditor, there's something so upbeat, näive and above all child-like about them.
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>>159204027
HIP has a fantastic map overhaul. I use it for that very reason.
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>>159204775
I was talking about doing it in Victoria II, sorry.
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>>159204765
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/Bacon%20button/
The term has been used literally three times here, including yours. The last two occurrences were of comments similarly structured to yours.
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>>159204827
I've been here since oldfag era and barely missed the originalfag train. 4chan used to be upbeat as fuck.
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>>159204879
It's impossible, laddo. You get memed on through Garibaldi events.
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>>159204949
I've only used it this thread after seeing it used before. Here's the thing, it sounds fucktarded to me too, but I had to have seen it somewhere and the only place I get /gsg/ news is /gsg/.
>>
Why is EU4 so fucking railroaded?
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>>159205106
If you think it sounds stupid then why do you use it? I find lots of phrases stupid and refuse to use them, for example, "believe you me", "quote unquote", I don't use either of these because I don't feel they use proper grammar and wouldn't make sense without everybody else foreknowing this.
>>
>>159205209
How, the only one less railed of the modern ones is CK2
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>>159205237
I'll ask in another way then.

Why are Paradox games so railroaded?
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>>159205234
>believe you me
What the fuck?
Also because I was under the clearly grossly mistaken impression that people understood it so it was a useable shorthand.
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>>159205234
>I don't feel they use proper grammar
>arguing about proper grammer with someone who uses the "word" unfun
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>>159205328
Because these games are based in history, you are looking at the wrong genre here.
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>>159205000
and reddit is just a horrid appropriation of oldfag culture

nice trips
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>>159205234
>>159205334
"Believe you me" is grammatically correct, even if weird. The pronoun (usually implied) is thrown to the 2nd position because the imperative forces the verb to the 1st one.
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>>159205334
It's a real thing, people say "believe you me" rather than "you believe me", supposedly it dates back to the origins of modern English but if you ask me it's the fucking Welsh shitting us up.

I wouldn't have minded your use of the phrase if it wasn't so asinine. "Bacon button" just sounds like a failed fucking reddit meme, a non sequitur that presumes it's humour is inherent, but is in fact, inert.
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>>159205328
you really think you know how you want to have fun better than johan does?
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>>159205000
We've moved on to post ironic self deprecating metapsychoanalysis, you probably wouldn't understand it, grandpa.
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r8 my grossarleiums
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>>159205328
Can you give an example though, because shit like tech groups / institutions is an attempt at realism and historicity while shit like lucky memes and le trade wind is because Paracocks is retarded.

>>159205474
Reddit is like parashit forums but with unlimited topics and uglier site design than a senior highschooler's first html on ie6, >we were never that shitty.
Speaking of which, /twg/ claims you can turn off upboating and assign your own mods, which is interesting.

>>159205571
Well it probably is since I vaguely recall that it was first used by a paradox project lead.
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>Playing that Western Euro/King Arthur mod
>My armies march around at mach-fuck sanic speed
Is this by design or is this an error on my end? I can go from Cornwall to Suffolk in a few days.
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>>159205537
So the Believe takes preference over the You? Why does it take preference?
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>>159205962
its intentional. It worked really well back when the map was tiny, but now its gotten bigger, they should probably be slower.
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>>159205571
I am fond of pigs
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New
Thread
When
xd
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>>159206126
rai will get to it
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>>159206126
Believe you me we've got all the bacon button threads you could quote unquote need.
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>>159206079
Not him but that's how imperative works, you say 'believe me' for the most part but if you add a pronoun you place it second as the command comes first.
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>>159206216
>>159206216
>>159206216
>>159206216
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>>159205537
>>159206079
I know this is true in latin but is it still the case in English?
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>>159206220
lul
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>>159206276
>22 memes early
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>>159205443
>Because these games are based in history
Ironically, scripting the games to force certain outcomes go against history. See below.

>>159205695
Players are actually quite better than the designers themselves to find problems on the design of the games. (We're still morons when it comes to solve them.)

>>159205771
The Iberian Wedding events (when RL Spain was almost formed by Castile+Portugal - the game acknowledges the events by the Civil War script), the Colonial Regions (an attempt to recreate the 13 Colonies, La Plata, Brazil, etc. with similar borders), the Dutch Uprising...

I would be fine with those if they didn't feel so fucking forced. "Ah, Castile and Aragon hate each other guts, but Castile will get a PU over Aragon!". Almost like if Paradox didn't look at the reasons those events happened IRL, and just tried to mimic the map. (And mimic it badly - the CR borders are wrong)
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>>159206518
And yet there's shit all about Spain and Philippines which leads to the place becoming a Ternate colony, which is absolutely retarded.

"Railroaded" is just used by people mad at an event that made shit harder for them, your case is pretty obvious. If you don't want any historical events, go play other genre.
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>>159206079
>Why does it take preference?
Because it's how it works in English - when verb placement rules and pronoun placement rules "disagree", the verb gets what it wants, so "put the verb at first place when using imperative" overrides "put the pronoun before the verb".

>>159206328
I think this is common for imperative mood, or at least Indoeuropean languages. German also does it ("glaub du mir!").
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>>159206763
I'll answer in the other thread.
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>playing eu4
>rebellions out the ass
>bleeding edge tech (150% ahead of time)
>still losing all battles to rebels with 3:1 numbers
wow

much fun wew game

wow
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>>159208261
Has France started its revolution?

Maybe I'm just bad at the game but when that happened, revolts spiked out the ass for me like a year later.
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>>159208261
>current year
>doge
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>trying to flip Timurids to Shia
>the only rebels that spawn are tribes and separatists
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LETS FUCKING GO
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>>159209671
kys
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>>159208261
rebels spawn with your tech dont they
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>>159209671
>trying to do Zorostrian persia
>this happens
;_;
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>>159213196
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