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Fuck off ArmA, fix the group's TS edition

Previous Sortie: >>158761413

A thread for all vehicle simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.

>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/


>/simg/ TeamSpeak:
ts3.nogf.moe

>Experimental website
http://nogf.moe/simg/

>/fsg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/flightsimgeneral

>BMS download links
http://pastebin.com/2CDSgvZq

>Planefag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in

>Tankfag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/EbdtnyPX

>Boat- and subfag pastebin
http://pastebin.com/JqTQWFFE

>Repository of various aviation related material:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web

>OP pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/yXeNzrpg


>Example of welcome sims
Falcon BMS, DCS World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Euro truck sim, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Steel Fury: Kharkov 1942, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum, Silent Hunter, Dangerous Waters, Train Simulator, Farming Simulator 201X, OMSI 2, DiRT: Rally, Ship Simulator

>Example of non-welcome games:
Ac* C*mbat, W*r Th*nder, W*rld of _____, Arm*
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No anime allowed edition
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>>159050307
I'm starting to think you want this to happen.
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Remember that DCS will never have the things you want.
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>>159050307
>autists fighting among oneanother
>anime starts flooding the thread
>suddenly the vast majority of posts is anime shit
The only way to fix it is to not feed it.

I'm liking the slight revival BMS is having however, even playing more DCS myself.

>>159050456
pic related
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WWI ops when?
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>>159050642
No AMRAAM no sale
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>mfw I'm an actual pilot
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>>159051064

What do you fly
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>>159051064
Not for long kiddo
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what's the difference between the x52 and the x52 pro apart from the colour
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>>159051540
Ones shit.
Another ones pro shit.
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>>159050307
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>>159051621
What do you recommend instead then fucko
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Post lewd planes
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>>159051064
How many people here actually do fly something, real question now.

/workingonaPPL/ here.

>>159051621
Really depends on what version you get, my pre-MadCatz one works like a charm and has been doing so for ages. Anything after the takeover is apparently shit though.

>>159051732
The new Thrustmaster that's comming out looks good for a cheap hotas. But I will miss my dual stage trigger.

>>159051753
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Can some kind anon upload the sandbox stratis and altis from arma 3 workshop?
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>>159051936
Will it be a step up from the hotas x?
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>>159052225
Yes
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>>159052225
Probably, I upgraded to a 52 from that years ago. But it's basically a T.16000 with a throttle next to it, so that should be good.
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>>159051150
172s but I'm going to a flight school to go from PPL to CFI next week and they fly SR20s and Seminoles
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>>159051936
I've done a discovery flight and flew an old T-6 years ago and both experiences were baller as fuck, but I can't afford to commit to a PPL right now.
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>>159052370
Good luck mang. Sitting in a Tecnam here.

>>159052370
Yeah shit gets expensive way too fast with that unfortunately. Even the glider licenses are still up there.
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>>159052828
>mfw finalizing loan today
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>>159052942
Your getting a loan to get a pilots license?
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>>159053043
No I already have my PPL, getting a loan to fund getting IR, CME, and CFI.
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>>159053187
>>159052942
How much do they charge for an IR again, or rather how many hours do they want for it?
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>he auto starts his car instead of going through the full start up procedure.

Lmfao wow, you guys will never make it.
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>>159053323
I'm not sure what the exact hours are desu, it's weird because 141 is different from part 61. I know I can count more sim time than usual through 141.
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>>159053772
(You)
Do not feed him
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>>159053798
>141
>61
Well I'm only familiar with EASA so I can't help you there, was just curious.

Odd though that the IR would be in a different part than the regular stuff for Licensing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcLiAAVeYhk
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>>159050805
What are these simulations?
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halp
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>>159054263
Tacview

Basically a far more advanced version of those simulations that would play at the end of Ace Combat levels, that works with just about every flight sim out there.
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>>159027365
>without getting a forum account?
Fucking get one already, it gets more and more annoying to spoonfeed you shitters the download links every time.
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>>159054554
Oh, that's pretty cool, I thought it's like standalone simulation program
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>>159054934
>tfw you get so mad you respond to a 13 hour old post
I'm not gonna register on a forum that I'll never visit just to get a download link for a mod. I'm not sure who is behind that shit decision, but it sure as hell makes it annoying to get into the game.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls2u6Ue2LM4

J-20 airshow
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>>159055128
It is, it's made to be able to accept replays from pretty much everything.
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>>159054193
Well 141 and 61 are different for all ratings I THINK. Basically part 61 is if you get your ratings and hours on your own with your own CFI, whereas 141 is a school setting, so it's a specific syllabus approved by the FAA, which is why they can get away with more sim time and less hours for ratings.
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>>159055291
>It doesnt work will Il-2 yet
>Both tacview and 777 are taking their time with working to fix that
Just end me my dude
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Couple of BMS questions:

Is there anyway to see the total losses in planes, or even ground units on each side? I know there is an events log, but is there any other way to see what planes have been shot down, units destoyed etc?

Also, is there anyway to have a Israel campaign against Syria, Jordan and Egpyt at the same time?
Currently I feel as though both of the campaigns are too easy and Israel absolutely dominates them in under 24 hours regardless of how well you fly (i guess this is realistic)

I want to fight all 3 of them at the same time. I'd be more challenging and would be a neat 6-day war 2000 edition.

Also does there exist a BMS roadmap? Basically what kind of features are planned?
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>>159055402
Alright we don't get that here IIRC, it's just all in the Air Crew regulation.

I should really know this shit I work with it.

>>159055428
Does it work with ROF? Given that 777 seems to be in on it.
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>>159055209
Then fuck off and don't play with us.
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>>159050307
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>>159055752
Have fun with your dying community :^)
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>>159050307
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>>159055783
>>159055913

Dude fuck off with your pictures.

You're just wasting our image limit with 0 content.
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>>159055902
Yea I will. Rather have no community than turn into Hoggit central where people cry because things aren't spoonfed to them on a silver platter.

At this point we need to give you lazy fucks 2 download links for the game, plus the base game and atleast 2 theaters. And ontop of that you then need to be fed a profile which are also on the forums.

So you need like 7 download links from the forums. You need this shit constantly. Fucking deal with it. Make an account or FUCK OFF.
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>>159055750
I dont know if ROF works with Tacview but reading some Il-2 forum posts seems to point that both dev teams dont like to talk to each over for some reason such as not reading emails or not even talking at all.
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>>159055987
>triggered

craig are you in here?
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>get confusing calls by awacs
>"mig 29 on your 3, 5miles out"
>instead of being smart and burning away decide to press on a 29
>completely ignore the fact that 21 has been chasing us forever
>turn on the 29,cant see him
>call awacs
>"Bandit on your 6, 5miles"
>fuck,must`ve merged with the 29
>cant see him cause of storm clouds
>get totally disoriented in the clouds
>splashed by a 21
https://webmshare.com/play/d1MKY
>mfw

How do I into a rope ?
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>>159056138
>Implying the feeding will end there
Then he'll need the reguditated manual fed to him, because reading is huuurd.
Then he'll need training fed to him, then you'll have to baby sit him in ops, in the vain hope you gain a +1, but he'll likely just disappear after being fed everything needed.
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>>159055987
>the same 3 shitty images of MiG are better than qt girls
NO
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>>159055987
You seem upset my man.

>>159055750
Yeah the European stuff is alot different. idk if it's easier or more difficult over there.
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See what happens when you let them in?
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Name one thing /a/utists can't ruin
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>>159058172
Unironic frogposting is unarguably worse.
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>>159058405
>that dcs netcode
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>>159058074
Overall it's the same probably.

I know one difference is that theoretical exams under EASA are split into 9 different ones, while it's one big one for FAA, and that there is no theoretical questions during the practical exam under EASA while there allegedly are a few under FAA if the examiner is feeling like a dick.

But given that it's both based on the same standards, I don't think there's much of a difference for the content.
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>>159057384

Don't bring MiG into this. At least they are sorta on topic.

And if you wanted R A R E migs all you had to do was ask my friend.
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>>159051985
Anyone?
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>>159059275
>/simg/ in the background
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>>159058823
Now that's a rare mig.
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>>159058405
>When you try to kill yourself, but still want to live, and can't decide
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So this thread is gay. Since most here play all 3, why don't we have a thread that combines wgg, simg, and a3g.

This group is all about milsim shit anyway, so just have the general that's all realistic military gaming.
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>>159064590
>Since most here play all 3
This is where you are wrong. Stop trying to force a3g on us.
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>>159064590
>a3g
>realistic military gaming
Made me chuckle, 1/10 bait.
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>>159064678
>>159064748
>inb4 baited & bodied
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>>159064590
>a3g
>wgg

Get out
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Remember not to listen to vaporwave because it is meme music.
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>>159065049
Post more wgg memes
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>>159065428
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>>159065428
The biggest meme was manufacturing drama between wargamers and simmers.
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>>159064678
>said while 90% of the TS is playing arma
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>>159065428
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>>159065763
>Soviet tanks didn't have tube launched missiles

I remember that
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FPRS 2.0.11s is released.

Major changes
>Everything that was changed in the 2.0.11.x betas, including bug fixes from them
>Lag issue is practically gone: Game is playable for more than 30 minutes, now!
>Origins 2016 (A convention where the developers met with some others and played tradtional wargames as well as various discussion) content included, such as:
-6 Brand new scenarios from Origins, all centered around containing the outbreak of a Soviet OMG in the are around Kirchheim unter Teck, near Stuttgart
-Kirchheim unter Teck itself, a map twice as large as standard FPRS maps
-A new Soviet subfaction, the OMG, featuring high-level Soviet equipment and training/initiative/readiness levels on par with their NATO counterparts

Over the next few days I shall make a blind play-through and DAR of the first scenario, "Contact"
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>>159067254
Thanks, BMPak, is it worth installing over 2.0.10bs like you recommended before?
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>>159068380
Yes. The bugs which caused NATO to be OP have largely been fixed.
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>>159050125
Viggen soon fellow Stalkers
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>>159068462
Thanks! Probably I will continue working on my 1968 mod, when I'll get free time.
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>mfw launch authorization
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>>159067254
In the south, we have Task Force Charlie. They consist of an Armored Cavalry Troop, with 10x M1A1, 12x M3A1, 3x M106, and a single stinger team guarding the SHQ.

In addition, a tank company of 14x M1A1 is also organic to the Task Force.

We have plenty of support assets on-call for tasking. Task Force Charlie and their Apaches are 10 klicks to the west, a full battalion of 24x M109 Howitzers are positioned in Kircheim itself, and various fixed-wing assets are streaming in, the earliest being a Wild Weasel section set to arrive in ten minutes.

Intel on the enemy suggests a brigade-sized force or OMG of the 11th Guards Tank Division. These are badass motherfuckers and are likely equipped with high-end T-80s, including the (anachronistic) T-80U. They are armed to the teeh with high-level rocket artillery, strike aircraft, helo support, and heavy SAM support to reduce the effectiveness of our own air assets.

Both sides are armed to the teeth. The question is, will we survive?

Feel free to help decide placement of TFC's units. The 12 Bradleys can be dispersed into sections of 2 each, but the M1A1s will stick to their platoons of 4. Blue hexes denote our deployment zone.
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>>159069060

POOSK

RAZRESHOON
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>>159070730
heh,

za rossiya

ogon'
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>>159070163
Oh shit, hyped up as fuck, please continue. %%<3%%
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>>159070163
Have you dieded? ;_;
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>>159074308
these posts take a while to make
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>>159074349
No probs, m80
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can we talk about Yandere Sim here or no?
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>>159074616
Kill yourself
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>>159070163
In the north, Task Force Alpha will be the main actor here. Their deployment zone rests within the town of Plochingen, including a 1000 point objective where route B10 crosses the Neckar river.

Their composition differs from Task Force Charlie's: Instead of a single troop and tank company, TFA instead simply has two troops. They will have access to the same support assets as Task Force Charlie, and will also be reinforced by Task Force Bravo which is four hours out from the FEBA.

Reichenbach an der Fils contains a railway station worth 250 Victory points. Since that costs less than an M1A1 platoon, we'll use it as nothing more than to bait Soviet armor into attacking the town. The same stiff opposition faced by TFC faces TFA.
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>>159065064
Don't talk to me or my tape delay ever again.
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So I was doing some testing, and it appears that the R-77 pitbulls at somewhere around 20km.

I locked a Yak-40, shot as soon as the range indicated 20km, and unlocked. R-77 hit every time.
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>ded thred
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>>159079280
I want to bully Nenechi!
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>>159079817
Are you one of dem animeposters son?
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>>159079280
>Ded thred
>Is one of the faggots that literally offer only shit anime posts to thread.

Gee, why the fuck do you think these are shitty useless threads huh? This place should just die. It seems it is the same 10 faggots, like you, regurgitating the same shit every fucking thread.
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>>159079280

Yeah, no way should we allow similar genres in here. Having 1 post every hour and a half is great!
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>>159080010
I can neither confirm nor deny this statement.
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>>159075562
The overall battle plan is this:

TFA is to be split into it's two component troops. Troop A, along with all of the 2nd ACR's engineering assets, are ordered to blow every single bridge across the Neckar north of Wendligen. After that, the THQ, two tank platoons, and the TFHQ will coalesce into an ad-hoc tank company and take positions on the hill overlooking the eastern river valley, where they can confidently destroy the Soviets at range as well as directly support Troop B by fire.

Troop B meanwhile will be the primary maneuver force and will be reponsible for most of the direct action against the Soviets. At first they will scout out east until they make contact with the Russians, and then from that point on will fight a continuous delay. They are expected to do this entirely under the overwatch of Troop A's tanks.

TFC will hold down Kircheim Unter Teck itself alongside TFD's Apaches. Between their hellfires and FASCAM support missions fired by the artillery, the Soviets cannot hope to break through here and should be forced to re-route their main axis of attack to the center, where we want them to full their full weight towards.

With the OMG channeled into Wendligen, Troop B of TFA will withdraw to here and hold at all costs. At this point, TFB will arrive to relieve them, TFD will re-route to assist them, and a full M270 MLRS battalion will annihilate the Soviet formations.
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Fags.

Where can I pirate Lockheed Prepar3D? Preferably 3.5
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>>159081586
Still, we're expected to suffer from Soviet air assets. It's more than likely that we'll be facing large numbers of Su-25, Su-24, MiG-27, or other aircraft, while all we have on the ground are a handful of Stingers, and a pair of HAWK missile launchers. Most of our CAP assets were also destroyed on the ground by a combination of massive artillery, air, and nuclear strikes, so we won't even get the USAAF air cover that would otherwise keep the skies clear. Still, we have some air assets in the CAS role, a single section of A-10s and a single section of F-16s loaded with bombs and Mavericks will be available. Since their window for operation is small, however, they'll be held in reserve until the main Soviet assault begins.
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gift that keeps on giving
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>>159084116
wew lad
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>>159084116
>screenshotting your own shitpost
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Handful of new screens from the freshly delayed 2.5.
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>>159086405

Holy mother of fuck I'm cumming. I'm cumming and I can't stop.

Tell me this is real.
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>>159086405
PBR? So they've caught up with 2014.
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>>159086405
source
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>>159087161
All their textures are already pbr ready they just used the green channel for sun spot width and red for spot brightness. So currently its half pbr
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>>159086974
It is. It was also delayed till next year or later
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>>159086974
>its
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>>159089279
>later than next year.

The fuck are they doing with that shit
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>>159077970
There is no indication the missile is pitbull, unlike the AMRAAM, correct?

On that same setting, what were your respective pole ranges? (I think that's what they're called, not sure what each range specifically is, however)
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>>159089482
Beats me my nigga.
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>>159090056

Nope, no indication at all.

As far as poles I can't remember, but 20km was just above second pole.
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>>159090171
second pole is the maximum hit probability one, right?

Would make sense that the missile goes active at the time.

Have you tried different aspects to see if that changes the missile pitbull range according to the second pole or if it's fixed to 20km?

I don't know, R-77 behavior and the missile poles were always very confusing to me in DCS.
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>>159090547
2nd one is no escape zone. But in dcs its very likely escape zone
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>>159092036
Holy kek my sides. Is there more of these somewhere?
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Tom, the guy who does the Tom's Korea texture packs for BMS is working on a theater where all the houses painted on the ground actually exist.
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>>159093549

Holy shit, source?

That would make the map look so much better.
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>>159093549
Is this that german theatre in that pic??
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>>159093727
I don't think it's coming out any time soon, and I'm pretty sure it's not even functional as a theater either, but it's a really cool proof of concept to show that you can do FSX looking terrain/objects in BMS.
https://www.bmsforum.org/forum/showthread.php?28539-Ostsee-Theater

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeLXiZh7xcA
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>>159093549
>>159093960
Huh, those trees don't look like they're randomly generated.
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>>159093960
For clarification
>First: This is a Technology Demonstrator and I will not be able to present a complete working Theater. My plan is to have a Theater who guys can fly TE´s online. I really don`t know who will be crazy enough to initiate a working campaign. My plan is to release a pre-Alpha-Version at the end of the year. I hope I will inspirate other modders and creators for the future.
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>>159093549
>the houses painted on the ground actually exist.

>this is what BMS fags actually get excited about
>in the year 2016 >>159093727
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>>159095549
ur darn tootin im excited for 3d houses
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>>159067254
Wish I could afford this.
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>>159094748
>This is a Technology Demonstrator and I will not be able to present a complete working Theater
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What are the best mods for BMS? Also most fun theatre?
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>>159096309
My serbian blood can only be appeased by flying in the Balkan theatre.
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>>159094748

me on the right
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>>159094748
fucks sake
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>>159081586
0343 hours
No contact

Task Force Alpha
>Troop B has occupied their positions.
>Troop A and the engineers are in position to blow every single bridge in Esslingen and Plochingen simultaneously
>Tank Company is still climbing their hill

Task Force Charlie
>Troop has occupied their positions.
>Tank Company has dug in their positions.

Artillery
>On Call

Task Force Delta
>Armed up at FARP and are taking off
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>>159093549
>>159093960
>>159094748

These things really make me think about where BMS is heading as a sim, like DCS.

While BMS uses a fucking ancient, heavily modified engine, they've managed to do some fucking crazy wizardry compared to the old Free Falcon / Open Falcon. The high poly models and effects on some stuff are an excellent example. However Tom's comments on how he'd limit himself to not creating a campaign for it concern me over how much authority the BMS team has over Falcon's source code. It is a known fact that nobody fully understands how the dynamic campaign works, so including it with future, high quality/model theaters might be a problem at some point. Or even the engine limitations over what systems BMS devs can't implement.

DCS meanwhile is very slowly building up to become a very decent combat simulation sandbox. They have full authority over the code. However their recent endeavors and the time it takes to achieve them seriously worry me if I'll ever see it myself.
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>>159099208

Well people have made theaters before and they work the dynamic campaign engine.

Israel is fan made isn't it?
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>>159099497
Tiles, flat cities, etc.
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>>159098957
Contact... sort of.

A strong radar signature out east has been detected. It may be the Tin Shield that was detected earlier. A section of F-4 Wild Weasels is on call and inbound to the target.

On a section of closed-off Autobahn somewhere west of Stuttgart, two bright lights appear on the highway as the Phantoms roar off and into the night sky.
The second weasel brakes slightly and re-adjusts as he comes to Military power just behind his wingman. Their briefing - and ground intercept inform them of a known SAM site in the area. The phantoms fly very low, ducking and pulling between hills, clearings in the woods, and bombed out cities.

I don't believe they have a very high chance of success, but they either knock the SA-10 out now, or the A-10s and F-16s likely won't reach their targets.
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>someone buys a mig29 flight manual on ebay for 50 bucks
>ed stays adamant that not even a mig29A, a model exported to everyone and their 3rd world mothers own, would be possible because of lack of information/gulag

fuck this
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>>159100789
>the flight manual contains all the system logic and information
end yourself
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>>159100739
>You are taking fuel
>Breakaway, Breakaway!
>Return pre-contact
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>>159100789
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If anybody wants to play a Korea set in 1989 where the AIM-7M is the fanciest air to air missile around and there are next to no guided munitions, I found this.

Mavericks are your most complex air to ground weapons if you fly F-16s. Meanwhile F-18s can carry Shrikes, HARMs, and Walleyes. F-18s are more flexible in general because the F-16 is limited to carrying only 2 Sparrows at a time if you want radar missiles, and if you carry those you severely limit your options because they can only be placed on stations 3 and 7. In an F-16, expect to be carrying only Sidewinders if you're not doing dedicated air to air mission.

Makes for lots of interesting limitations in my opinion, and dumb bombs/cluster bombs are always great fun to use because of the manual flying involved.

https://www.bmsforum.org/forum/showthread.php?24915-Mod-request-wish-Stock-KTO-in-1990-1995-timeframe&p=353910&viewfull=1#post353910
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>>159101128

This is my kind of shit, thanks.

I'm really sad to see that the germany map was just a tech demo. I was hoping it was going to be a 80's cold war scenario which would have been too fucking lit
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>bought the Mi-8 and Huey bundle
>literally haven't flown either of them yet
>it's been over a month
>mfw
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>>159102790

Step up senpai whirlybirds separate the boys from the men
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>>159101696
Something to keep in mind is that this makes the campaign a lot harder. With my very brief messing around of this tonight, I noticed that this puts both sides on very even ground compared to the vanilla campaigns, even the vanilla hard DPRK.

Without almost unlimited access to crazy stuff like JSOWs, HARMs, and SDBs, it makes taking ground for the entirety of your forces (not just you) a lot more difficult, and in fact in flying the F-16 and F-18 you're kind of the special snowflakes of the land as the bulk of your planes will be F-4s, F-5s, for the air forces.

On top of that, the air to air game gets heavily equalized as well. Without AMRAAMs, all your forces (except for Tomcats and their Phoenixes) have to fight at the same ranges as the enemy MiG-23s and MiG-21s.
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>>159100484
>A section of F-4 Wild Weasels is on call and inbound to the target
For some reason I thought you didnt had access to airstrikes in that game.
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>>159103153

That makes it more fun imo.

I know completely blowing the enemy the fuck out is technically realistic, but its more fun to be more even.

>>159100789

Please show me where ED has said MiG-29A is too secret.
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>>159100789
>>ed stays adamant that not even a mig29A, a model exported to everyone and their 3rd world mothers own, would be possible because of lack of information/gulag
I asked once, but here I go again: source on this?
And a flight manual is not enough to properly model a plane.
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The only thing the Mig-29 needs is PFM, its shit single tracking radar and shitty missiles arent worth full fidelity. The Fulcrum never had a place on the modern battlefield and was a deathtrap to every pilot who came up against western or NATO fighter
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>dcs will never get a dynamic campaign
>you will never be able to fly out over the straits of hormuz circa 1994 in your AH-1W in the third day of hostilities with Iran, setting out for a day of on-call CAS work
>you will never have an AI JTAC give you dynamic tasking based on the shifting battlefield situation
>you will never actually have an impact on the battlefield you fly over

fucking kill me
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>>159105145
By this logic the only thing worth making full fidelity is an F-22
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>>159100484
A ticking noise ripples through the cockpit of the lead aircraft. But it's not his RWR, it's the Geiger counter secured to the dash by duct tape.

The ruins of Stuttgart are barely lit by the flames still roaring in some sections of where the city once stood. Only those small flames and the droning clicks of the counter reminded the pilots what was underneath their aircraft. The WSO in the back of the lead craft thought of his home town back in Montana. Was his home destroyed, too? His neighbors burned alive, or choking to death on the radiation?

The grisly images lasted a second in his mind before an alarm rang, a bright (TS), followed shortly by a (CS), and finally the interlaced (10) showing on the AN/APR-47.

Things happened very quickly after that, from the "Mud Ten", to the "Spike", and the rippled "Magnum" calls of the Weasels, peeling back below the horizon while their shrikes chased after ghosts, and finally slammed into the cold earth.

A young man gripped the steering wheel of his truck, breathing heavily. Only when the distant fireball dimmed to nothing in the darkness of the night, did he exit his truck, and join his comrades to prepare re-deploying the radar again.

-----------------
Task Force Alpha:
>Contact one BRDM platoon. Possible detection of a tank platoon in the recon role as well, indicating that a Motor-Rifle unit will be first up to bat.

Task Force Bravo
>On the road towards the FEBA

Task Force Charlie
>Distant contact of BRDM platoon as well. It disappears from view quickly after.

Task Force Delta
>Taking positions

That's all for tonight.
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>>159107220
>this backstory
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Opened some boxes I hadn't opened in yrs. See this. Man, do I miss the days of real, fleshed out in depth non-pdf manuals with software. I mean this is a god damn 3 ring binder. Anyone else miss the old manuals? Anyone actually see them before or all too young?
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>>159114617
>Anyone else miss the old manuals?
Yeah, sometimes I do too. And the extras (like canvas maps, comics and other shit) without paying for collector's or whatever edition.
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>>159114617
>nondigital media in 2016
>lowering profits by printing manuals for customers that dont give a shit if they get a manual or not anymore
>making complicated games that require huge manuals
Wow its almost like you dont look at this as like a business. The old days will never come back and you're a fool for wasting your time looking back. But yeah the last thick instruction manual I remember owning was the manual for Witcher 1.
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delanclip finally arrived
how to facetracknoir with IL-2 BoS
its easily detected with war thunder but in IL-2 i dont know how to enable it
also what are some good racing games worth using headtracking with? does RBR or LFS allow it ?
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So what's the reason we bullied the train guy away? I miss him.
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>>159118206
head tracking is not really helpful in racing sims.
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>>159118416
you are right i guess but i want to know what its like
also i like going sideways in LFS a lot so maybe its useful there
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>>159118287
>So what's the reason we bullied the train guy away?
Because you fucks can not live without excessive shitposting.
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>>159117601
haha, wtf. No shit this stuff stopped due to costs. Of course companies are profit driven. What the fuck did you read into my post that indicated I was at as loss as to the reason this kind of shit stopped? I am very aware of why this kind of documentation stopped being provided. I just came across a piece I did not expect to was reminded of it's depth in physical form. That was it dude.

>Fool for wasting time

Kid, you seem to have taken my post way way too seriously.

>mfw I have worked for 4 different game dev/pub's and some kid is 'enlightening me' on an industry that has paid my bills for a decade.

I love this place.
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>>159121074
bodied
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>>159121271
baited
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>>159118287
Because anime poster kept reporting it. And mods are apparently automatons.

So his posta were deleted

So in the end we have more proof of why all anime posters should be banned
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>>159123260
>>159121271
bodied
baited
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>>159051936
I fly Robinson choppers, plan on getting into fixed wing stuff soon
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i read somewhere that the PS3 camera could do 75 Hz but the one that i ordered from delanclip only does 60 Hz on facetracknoir.
how can i reduce input lag from headtracking ?
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>>159123525
Rude. I did no such thing.
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>>159124404
My first flight was with an R22. It was fun but damn are they tiny.
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>>159125715
Kys
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I bet the people who are against anime don't even play ops.
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>>159125231
>PS3 camera
Just get damn trackir, it doesn't cost that much
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>>159125231
afaik opentrack can do @75
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>>159107195
Nah, it's just that Fulcrum fags have little idea of just how outclassed it was from day one of its service. It's basically a more maneuverable version of a MiG-21 with its main offensive weapons still being R60s and R73s. A fighter designed for Vietnam era type dofights that saw every western fighter leap-frog ahead a generation in radar and missile technology
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>>159127521
>doesn't cost that much
>4 times the price of trackclip/delanclip
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>>159126732
I'm against anime and I play ops. Go fuck yourself
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>>159128147
No.
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>>159128902
You don't even play ops you faggot get out
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>>159126183
True, but you can't argue with the view
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>>159128902

Why do you post anime here, when there is like 5 boards dedicated to it?

>inb4 all of 4chan is anime country

That's fine, but can't you leave this thread for sims and post anime where it's more on topic?
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>>159129762
Why do you reply to craig/greg?
Just stop.
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>>159130007

I don't think they post that stuff but ok.

Just wasting the image limit
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>>159130426
If they haven't then they do now. After seeing how triggered everyone gets i'm sure they picked it up.
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Is it a good time to switch over from TS3 to TS4 yet? I know they still don't have toddlers or pets or really anything interesting yet.
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>>159129619
I can complain about that weird see saw stick though.
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>>159130979
its always a good time to switch to Mumble, thats for sure!
>as good in performance as TS
>doesnt require you to pay for servers
i have TS3 installed but in all games i can i use mumble
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>>159131864
>ts bloated as fuck
>forces you to update or won't work
>mumble super lean
>works even when 100 updates behind the server
>free and open source
Mumble confirmed best.
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Tree of Tranquility or Animal Parade?
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>>159133328
This isn't really the thread for that, but haven't all Natsume original Harvest Moon games been bad?
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Falcon BMS is the Dark Souls of flight sims.
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>>159137702
>Touted for being deeper and more complex than it really is.
>Fanbase are rabid shitposters and try to shit on people who don't play their game, in a weird attempt to feel superior.

Yeah I can get behind this.
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DCS WW1 WHEN
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>>159138627
Lol faggot who can't ramp start detected
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>>159139742
>lol u must be a shitter
Thanks for proving my point retard
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>>159140484
Git gud
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>>159131864
>>159132096
Make a server then.
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>>159141130
195.154.168.136
64739
west EU
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>>159139245
ROF WW1 OPS WHEN?
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>>159141628

>EU

Lol fuck off
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MURRICA STRONK
FUCK EUROPLEBS
MURRICA STRONK
FUCK EUROPLEBS
MURRICA STRONK
FUCK EUROPLEBS
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>>159143103
USSR > RUSSIA >>>>>> USA > EU
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most flight sim enthusiasts live in europe and russia
get f*cked america (pwned)
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>>159143103
Slavboo/Vatnik please stop putting the euros on a bad voice, it is you who are a pleb.
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>>159139742
>faggot who can't ramp start detected

You say ramp start like it is some hidden talent that cannot be acquired. When really it is a few clicks of a mouse and a press of some keys. Do you really take pride in this? Do you take pride in your ability to make toast too? Stabbing your straw into your juice box? Tying your shoes?

Everything I heard about you faggots is true. Sad. What is the purpose of this board again? Provide a space for teen faggots to post on avg 1-6 word useless shit? You are a good rep for that man.
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>>159143940
You appear to be quite flustered over this. Perhaps you should slow down and evaluate.
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>>159144418
haha. I appear? Dude, really you need to get a job in a theater. You are a natural projectionist. How's school by the way?
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>>159144950
This is the level that BMS haters stoop to. How quaint.
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Why are there people who hate BMS so much?
If you don't like don't play it...?
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>>159145275
BMS hater? wtf are you talking about? I was playing Falcon 4.0 when you were probably still attached to your moms tit. I like a ton of different sims. I love BMS, I also love DCS. I love RoF. I loved Flying Circus when I flew that. I loved Warbirds back when you could actually fly against old fucks who actually flew in WW2. I loved F-18 Korea, Janes titles..and the list goes on and on. Each has it's merits(hopefully). Liking one does not mean I cannot like the others. Why do you fucks think you can't? This place might actually have value but you all sink to the lowest common denominator instead. Really, look over the posts in the avg /simg/ thread. You think this isn't a shit hole?
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>>159146096
No one actually hates old Falcon 4, people hate BMS shitters because they try and trumpet up a 20 old year old game that's still coded in ancient limited flight modeling that doesn't even model stalls and spins, and they try and play it up like it's the most realistic flight sim ever when it's literally surpassed by everything else on the market
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>>159146430

How can one man be this fucking triggered. Literally relax, nobody cares.
You don't have to let your tendies hit the floor because you autostart all of your planes. It's not a big deal.
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Sometimes these threads are fun and sometimes they remind me of why I don't engage with the sim community all that often.
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>>159146430
Fucking baited
Baited so hard.
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>>159146663

BMS does almost everything better than DCS. DCS has a small list of things it does better, and in general has more potential to eventually be great.

But BMS is great right now, and is the superiour combat flight sim.

>>159147332

>tfw all it took was a line of text and he exploded with assrage.

Bait game on point my nigga
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>>159146951
killyourself hue hue FROGPOSTE XD
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>>159147635
I was born to bait
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>>159146764
>triggered

I see I triggered you some way didn't I? You cared enough to reply. Try caring a bit less, I know you can do it man. I mean, shit you can follow some instructions of a game and click. So can do pretty much anything obviously.

>Somehow here the ability to follow a startup procedure in a game is a huge fucking accomplishment.
>Can only imagine the chip this faggot will carry if one day he actually gets laid. However unlikely that is is.
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Everybody point and laugh at the pathetic autist with the inflammed asshole all because he can't ramp start his planes.

My name has tard in it, and even I know how.
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r a r e
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I see you enjoy pizza there my dude.

WELL YOU'RE A PIZZA SHITTER UNLESS YOU CAN SOURCE ALL THE ORIGINAL INGREDIENTS AND BAKE IT IN AN AUTHENTIC PIZZA OVEN LIKE ME.

Oh you don't?
Why do you try to even eat pizza you fucking pleb.
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>>159148276
>forget pic

lol
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>>159148292

>not making your own gourmet pizza
>making frozen pizza
>getting delivery

Pleb in every aspect of your life. Sad.
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>>159148292
>Making a pizza
>Baking
>He dosen't just microwave pizza rolls
Pleb
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>>159148462
Why would people even skirt around the point of pizza, which is obviously making it, not eating it.

Why would you want pizza and not get the FULL PIZZA EXPERIENCE.
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>>159147832
It's okay if you can't ramp start anon. Don't let the DCS shitposter false flagging bullies get to you.
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>>159148572
>craight
>microwaving pizza rolls

Fucking figures, you frogposting autostarting shitposter cunt.

Kys
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>>159148572

>tfw made pizza rolls the right way and have a MiG-25 model but forgot to make my counter-meme last night

Fugg
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Only the Big Nig can stop this shitposting
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>>159148572
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>>159148702
Wew
Those are love making words baby girl.
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>>159148131
Wait a minute. How the fuck do we know you can? You seem almost too reliant on that ramp start shit. So much it is suspect if you think about it.

>mfw this faggot can't actually ramp start.
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>>159148653
Hey it is you again. The kid that can't ramp start but pretends he can online.
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>autists think that ramp starting a plane in a sim makes them better

Learn a real skill like cooking, or how to please a woman.
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>>159149190
>pleasing women takes skill
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You should be required to post a video of yourself manually ramp starting in order to post on /simg/, really.
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>>159149313
You should own at least 1 trainer and have video proof of completing the entire A10C BFT Qualification campaign to post on /simg/, really.
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>>159149313
I agree, and let's start with this faggot

>>159139742
>>159146764
>>159148131
>>159148653


Only faggot in this thread seems to suspiciously use as his go to post response. I say we start with him.
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>>159149270
>implying ramp starting does either
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RARE FULCRUM DUMP INCOMING, FUCKING BRACE
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>>159149017
>>159149190
>>159149707

>being this fucking mad
>getting baited this fucking hard

Holy shit man thanks for the keks. Nice to see it from the other side for once.

Go change your diaper now you sperg. Stop throwing your toys in the thread.
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>>159150163
Not so fast motherfucker. It is I who baited you for the (you)s!
>>
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No,it is I who has baited all of you!
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>>159150163
haha, and you think you are the baiter. I got news for you.
>Fucking simpleton kid

Now, more from your Pepe collection. Don't let me down now. How about Pepe ramp starting?
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>>159150163
>he thinks he's not the one being baited
Fucking bodied m80
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>20 T-80s roll up in a town, stop and start shooting at Chiefs
>3 Chieftains up the hill
>This happens
How the fuck is this legal?
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>tfw can't afford quality memes to shitpost with
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>>159150812
Thermal imaging
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>>159150425
>>159150739
>>159150765

>baiting 3 people at a time

It's too easy. Craig I'm taking over, you can step down.
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>>159151292
Mid-day, clear weather, 1km away?
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>>159151356
Terrain?
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>>159151427
Chieftains: uphill, minor city
T-80s: one level lower, also minor city.
A minor city hex between them.
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>>159151608
Then the chieftains' thermal advantage should allow them to shit on the T-80s
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>>159151307
>he doesn't know this was the next step of my master plan
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>>159151307
>Being baited by 3 different people at once, while pretending he's baiting us but also giving us (You)s

Nah let Craig carry on because you're fucking hopeless
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@159151840
t. a mad craig that got replaced
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw1II-OSl3c


comfy slav documentary
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>>159151735
>>159151840

>They just can't stop responding

Absolute anal annihilation.
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>>159102790
The Huey is fun.
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>>159151683
RRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>159151427
Also that doesn't explain how 2 Chieftains rekt 3 T-80s in one salvo
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>>159154067
Each line represents a "minute" of firing, not a single "volley"

A system I disagree with, but it's there anyway.
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>>159147635
>BMS does almost everything better than DCS
>except literally everything
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>>159154150
Thanks for explaining, leafbro.
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>>159154067
>slavshit gets bodied
>i-it can't be?! slavshit is shit..?
maximum kek
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>>159154067
>Also that doesn't explain how 2 Chieftains rekt 3 T-80s in one salvo

>implying it's hard to rek slavshit when the Anglos make the best MBTs in the world and beady Anglo eyes can snipe an individual Chinaman from 3600 yards
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>>159155757
And when sniping whites, the Anglo doesn't even need his eyes. They can smell delicious Aryan blood from over 700 miles away and direct their bullets accordingly.
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>>159156296
>slavs
>white
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>>159156418
>t. Greg ibn-Muhammad
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>>159156418
The slavs aren't our target...
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>>159156503
BOMBER HARRIS DO IT AGAIN.


>>159156493
Guess again craig
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Why don't you get a life instead of playing video games all day?
Fucking losers.
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>>159158395
Normals please leave. Leave this subsection of the website. Gosh hecking darn.

*inarticulate screeching*
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I just realized I've never fired rockets in BMS. Nor do I recall ever seeing them in the loadouts. Can the F-16 even carry any?

It's always bombs or missiles.
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>>159160041

why do we not have guided rockets
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>>159162527
that would be a missile my friend

>>159160041
yeah there is rockets in bms, but ive never used them either and i dont know what theyre called
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>>159160041
aren't american rockets pods standardized for most planes?
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BMP
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>>159149190
I can cook, please women, and ramp start any plane.

Watchu gunna do now?
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>>159165612
>caring about if the girl is "pleased"
Betamax, what's up?
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>>159166261
At least i'm not a pepe posting faggot.
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>>159166261
>poor beta fuck doesn't know about mutual love
I'm sorry to trigger you, sweetie.
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>>159166261
>Frogposter hasn't seen the female orgasm.

Probably harder to achieve than ramp starting an A-10

At least I can ramp start the A-10
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>>159128042
And the R-27?
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>>159168670
>not knowing about the German MiG-29 pilots who didnt even bother trying to use their SARH missiles in training because it set them up for failure every time
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>>159128042
>>159170615
b-but MiG!!!11
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>>159128042

There isn't a single person here that actually believes the MiG-29 is superior to any modern US fighters.

I love the Fulcrum, but I also understand that its objectively worse than the F-15, F-16, etc. In most ways.

That's a small part of why I like it so much, among many other reasons. Its more challenging. It feels good to win a fight against superior aircraft because you technically aren't supposed too.
We are well aware of its record against US fighters, and even its record against other Russian planes (See Ethiopia-Eritrean war)
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Stop bullying mig.
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>>159175254

MiG...has had a hard life.
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>>159175254
MiG is very brave.
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>>159176073
MiG is incredibly hihg speed
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>>159176197
MiG is nimble.
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>>159176380
MiG is virtuous
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>>159176519
MiG is lewd
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>>159176804
p-please no
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>>159177024
MiG is a huge slut.
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>>159177071
MiG is a good girl!
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>>159178172
MiG loves my cock.
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>all these MiG-29's in service
>no module

I still don't think its out of the question 2 b h.
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>tfw I was expecting Su-33 PFM and carriers to come out this year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0Ytm4R0jrI
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MiG posters are the worst.
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>>159183202

False flag
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>>159182640
Kuznetsov is literally the worst carrier so you didn't miss much don't worry
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>>159183202
wrong
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How impossible would it be for a modder to make an FC3 plane clickable?
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>>159183497
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>>159183202
anime posters are worse at least MiGs are relevant to /simg/
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>>159183889
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>>159184078
>he says this while posting on an anime website
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You guys think the Su-33 will have snibbidy snabbidy wings?
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>>159185209
It's honestly hard to say, the airframe is supposed to be reinforced but who knows.
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>>159185307

If its an Su-27 that has two more ET's and no wing snap, I'm going to fly the ever loving fuck out of it when it gets its PFM.
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>>159183889

Does this image mean that going up against a MiG-31 is basically suicide?

Nice.
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>literally 0 patches or changes to DCS
>suddenly it runs like fucking ass even though I used to get 60 frames every time

What the fuck?
It stutters every 10 seconds and I'm getting like 30 fucking FPS anytime i look anywhere.
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>>159185568
wingsnap is honestly not that bad, you just gotta git gud.
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>>159187247

Says the guy that wingsnapped for months until he got good

:^)
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>>159187479
I never said I didn't

:^)
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>>159187819
forgot my pic
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>>159187990

How can one plane be so sexually exciting?
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>>159188190
I want the suk desu
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>>159188703

"How many levels of Flanker are you on?"

"Like, 5 or 6 my dude."

"You are like a baby, watch this."

SUKHOI
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>>159189052
S
U
K
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I am now a Fishbed driver.

What the hell how does this stall so badly. How do you get gud on this thing. How do you even land this thing? Why do you need to brake to taxi turn? How does this actually carry 8 missiles?

I miss Flanker-chan.. That said, Fishbed is so lewd
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>>159187172
Check your hdd
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>>159191083

Don't exceed the AoA limit, it stalls poorly because it's a delta wing and turns into a lawn dart at slow speeds

You have to land it f a s t. Land at about 350ish, this will usually require you to be landing at like 80% throttle which feels wrong, just don't let up until you're on the ground.

You need to brake on the ground because it lacks nosewheel steering, all older soviet aircraft are like this braking with rudder turns the nosewheel, just practice taxiing and you should be okay it's really not that hard.

>8 missiles
you just need f a s t
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>>159191083
Fishbed is best played with a GCI or AWACS, its radar makes me want to kill myself.

Be cheeki breeki.
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>>159191083
>What the hell how does this stall so badly
Because the MiG-21 has no wings and it was born to go fast.

>How do you even land this thing?
Fly faster. You don't so much land a MiG-21 as you gently fly it into the ground.

>Why do you need to brake to taxi turn?
Because that's how they did it in WWII and if it ain't broke don't fix it.

>How does this actually carry 8 missiles?
It doesn't, and if you manage to somehow get it to happen, it's a bug. You can only carry 6, but if you care about going fast (and you should) you should only carry 4.
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>>159191195

its on my SSD though which is weird.

I think it was chrome/youtube, because its at 60 again. I was even getting massive drops and stutters flying in the mission editor by my self.

DCS performance is so unpredictable.

Example:
Afghan ops had like 2000 units and basically 10 missions worth of shit going on... 60 fps.

Same guy makes a simple op with maybe 50 units, lags like fuck, get 20 fps when looking at certain areas.
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Declassified Russian photo of Su-27 pilot intercepting RC-135 in an "unprofessional manner"
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>>159195940
All the Americunts are watching basebarr rn.
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I like making my self the #2 in a flight and let an AI flight lead.

They seem to actually take off on time and I like not having to tell every single guy what to do.

Plus you get to stay in formation with them which is fun/aesthetic.
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>>159198149
How do you do that? The DCS ME wont let me do that.
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>>159199052

You can't select "Player" but you can pick "Client" and then slot into that slot when you start.

I wish the flight lead AI was better. They don't say much. They do appear to actually track and lock targets, but will still wait for your command to engage.

Still neat though. BMS does a really good job at letting you fly as a the #2-4.
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>>159185568
>2 more ETs
Sorry to burst your bubble but the 33 can only carry (E)Rs on those extra wing pylons
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>>159199248
Ah. I see.
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>>159199370

Yes you're right, I meant to say ER's.
4 ET's and 4 ER's would fucking amazing though.

Still, 2 more SARH's to chuck at people is always nice.
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>>159199595
Agreed, comrade.

They've slightly unfucked the ERs in the last few months, they've been somewhat good to me, surprisingly.
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I can't wait for the F-14 and the F-18, really pissed they're both still a year off minimum. It's really gonna make DCS more interesting, desu game feels pretty one dimensional as is when it comes to 4th gen BVR.
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>>159199802

Su-33 can put 4 rocket pods on?
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MiG-8-7 when?
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>Mfw I want to buy an HTC vive locally, but I have received no response to my message.

I bet it's just a bait post.

Tuck me in, let me die.
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>>159202871
Cockulus is way better for DCS famalam.
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>"a MiG31 could direct up to three of its fellow MIG-23P 'Flogger', MiG25PD, MiG-29 'Fulcrum" or SU-27 'Flanker' interceptors, obviating the need for them to use their own radars and thus reveal their position."

>Page .82 from a pdf. "MiG-25 Foxbat, MiG-31 Foxhound, Russia's Defensive front line" published in 1997 by Midland Publishing limited and Stephen Thompson Associates.

Reminder that the GCI/AWACS data link ability the SU-27 has in DCS is actually realistic and works like it does in real life.
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>>159202937
I don't want to play DCS. The setup for it is horrendously glitchy.

The local item price is neglible compared to a rift too, and I get the motion controls.

They'll respond, right Anon?
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>>159203006

Another image of the HDD.
This screen looks really cool.
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>>159203006
That is so hot
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>>159203162
I sure hope so anon, if vive ever gets ATW that's up to par with Oculus it will be great for DCS, you should still try it though feeling just how big an Su-27 is blew my mind.
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>>159203336

I'm stupid and am a pleb. Can you please tell me (for DCS) what the differences b/w the two are? Most of the stuff I've read talk about how the Vive has slightly better visuals.
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>>159203336

I just remember something about premade profiles not working, and manual profile selection not functioning either. I'd like to try DCS, but if I can't use my HOTAS setup, there's no point. I use a Saitek X-55 Rhino HOTAS for reference.

"ATW"?
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>>159203487
>>159203525

ATW = Asynchronous Time Warp

It basically means that it will insert frames into the content so it can fake a higher framerate, 120hz TVs sometimes do this.

Since it's kind of been proven that 90fps is the golden number for a good VR experience it means that with ATW enabled you only need 45 fps in order to mimic it. It actually works very well however there's some ghosting. This is the main reason the Rift is better for DCS since it is damn near impossible to constantly run 90fps+

Other than that the Rift is a bit lighter and it has a better "sweet spot" of where you can see things clearly compared to the Vive.

Main thing is ATW though. That is honestly the biggest thing the Oculus has going for it.
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>>159203932
This is someone else:
>>159203932

-----

>ATW

I get what it is now, I just didn't know that was the term for it.

>This is the main reason the Rift is better for DCS since it is damn near impossible to constantly run 90fps+

I thought they both had OLED screens? I didn't realize they both utilized ATW. What makes the rift's ATW so superior, though?
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>>159203932
>>159207159

Meant to quote 159203487 above the bracket.
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>>159207159
The vive just recently got ATW and it's bare at best. The Oculus just got an ATW upgrade, it really feels like it's running at 90fps the whole time while the Vive I think ATW only works for supported programs, I can't say for sure though since I don't own a Vive but ATW has been a big thing with the Rift since day 1 and they have poured a ton of effort into it.
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>>159207709
Surely Valve and HTC will work on full-range ATW to compete, do you not agree? They'll need to be able to compete.

I'm curious about the third lighthouse upgrade to the rift, and to what degree it will become competitive with the vive's detection range/accuracy. As-is, the rift is a sit-down device.

Do you know anything about lense differences between the two? I saw some videos, but I'm not sure what to make of it.
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>>159208113
Honestly Valve sells a more complete VR experience for the normies and they have so many people shilling for them that they honestly don't need to compete with ATW. Valve tries to market the Vive to play full room scaled VR exclusive experiences while the Rift is advertised for a sit down experience like DCS and other sims.

I have no doubt the Rift can do full room scale with 3 sensors, however at that point you've spent more than the Vive costs with the sensors included.
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>>159208665
My main interest regarding the vive was considering the local pricing on Craigslist, which would put it down to rift pricing. I've seen rifts priced in a similar fashion too, as in >$500.

It's frustrating that the specs are so similar, yet I hear so many conflicting statements regarding realistic usage and experience. That said, I've only used a vive, and only briefly, once.

I'm more interested in sim titles of all sorts than the half-complete demos they release for $30 each. That said, there's some interesting content I don't want to be blocked out from.
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>>159209138
If I were you anon I'd buy the vive and if you have issues playing the sims you want just flip that shit on ebay and buy a rift.
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>>159209330
That's what I'd like to do, but I haven't gotten a reply from the person on CL yet, and I don't want to pay more for something than I have to. I can probably buy a rift for between $450 and $500, and a vive around $650.

What do you think?
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>>159209659
I mean I won't get touch controllers until December so the only thing worthwhile in VR for me is DCS. But you have to decide what you want to do and how much money to spend. If you can get a cheap rift you can always buy the touch controllers when they come out for the full experience (also comes with an extra sensor)
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>>159210062
Wait, the touch controllers come with the third sensor? I thought it was supposed to be $200 for the controllers + $80 for the third sensor? Do I need to pre-order or something?
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>>159210062
You've practically sold me on a rift now. If you're a shill, you're doing it right. Thanks for the info.

Sent a message to someone for one. Pray I get a favorable response!
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>>159210871
Nah I'm no shill, if Vive offered a better experience for sims I would have been all over it instead, if you do get a Rift just prepare yourself for the normie Vive shills who don't even have VR yelling "LMAO YOU'RE SUPPORTING FACEBOOK XDXD" there are a lot of em.
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>>159211207
I was originally planning on getting the vive and get touch controllers if they would be compatible. I think this might be the better course of action now. If I am fortunate enough to get the headset, I'll post pics and etc. in the general.

I just really hope I get a response from this new guy. Maybe this is why I haven't gotten a response from the vive guy. Feels good, man.

Thanks again, I'm going to sleep well tonight. Have a great night!
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>>159211513
glad to help you out anon, if you have any more questions lmk.
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>>159211703

Not that guy, but now you've convinced me to get the oculus instead of the vive. Of course, I probably wont get anything until December at the earliest so hopefully both get new exciting updates.
On another note, it seems easier to shoot down B-52s with rockets instead of the internal gun in the MiG-21. Is this retarded?
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Guys in order to combat the shitposting let's all use an image that identifies the poster.
I for example will post with this image of a local politician.
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>>159213564
Shut up, manlet
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>>159051936
Got my PPL about 15 years ago, work as aircrew on twin turboprop MPAs
>>
I know a3 is not welcome here but the coming year they are focusing on better simulation of jets and armored warfare. Just thought maybe some of you secret a3 players might be interested
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>>159214603
a3 maps have the same problem as your dick, too small.
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>>159214883
That's true for flight sim which is why there's no way it'll compete with DCS. I'm mostly interested in armor sim.

I'm hoping better, more clear penetration feedback and simulation and simulation of the internal systems. Hopefully more advanced shit than w*r thunder and hopefully it'll move away from battlefield tier wasd + m1 level of complexity
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>>159215278
>I'm mostly interested in armor sim.
Just play SABOT, Steel Panthers etc
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>>159215573
Yeah but if arma3 gets enough updated to be halfway decent armor game, it'd be great.
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>>159203006
>>159203258
It's not realistic.

It needs to be way more of it, and Su-27s, can datalink to other Su-27s, designate targets and such.
the Su-27SK manual explains it pretty well.
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Dirt Rally anyone?
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>>159217524
Su-27SK is a newer version, I think the Su-27 we have now is a Soviet one.
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>>159217524

Well, what we actually do get is fairly accurate, which is my point.

I'm sure there is additional modes or abilities that aren't in game, but what we do see is pretty close, which goes against a lot of natoboos complaints about how it's unrealistic/unfair so it shouldn't be allowed be a use the F-15 doesn't get it.

As far as designating targets, numbers do appear above targets your flight is locking at least, but I wonder if a proper "you shoot this" function is what is shown on the right side of the HDD in this >>159203258
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>>159217773

Also the SK is just the export version of the S, so it should have the same technology, if not less as is tradition with the Soviets/Russians.
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>>159217773
It's the same plane anon.
If anything, it may have less things available.
>>159218083
Yep, the funny thing is the F-15Cs datalink didn't come as standard on the plane, of the time period where FC3 is based, only a few f-15s were ever upgraded and only as a test bed.

The only thing that annoys me is that ED refuses to get the plane to plane datalink working in MP, while it works fine in SP.
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>>159218760

Does plane to plane datalink work in SP without AWACS/GCI?
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>>159179629
Mig-29 by a some european countries like germany
What? Don't countries like germany be "Having russian/soviet x is just supporting them"
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>>159219404
"Germany" inherited East Germany's MiG-29s when they reunified with the West.
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>>159219404
What

>>159212425
What
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>>159219513
Oh, that makes sense
Thanks
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>>159217769
love it
wish i had a driving wheel to play properly, its much harder than Richard burns Rally, wich is the most fun rally sim ever made imo
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>>159218190
>>159218760
Sorry, yeah, confused it with SM one.
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>>159220065
Yeah, wanna get a driving wheel too, playing with dualshock 4 now. I was wondering how to handle turbocharged RWDs with auto transmission?
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How alive is CloD with the feam fusion mod?
Should I buy BoS instead?
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>>159221605
BoS runs like crap, i would wait for DX11 before buying it
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>>159221605
I have both, I prefer BoS
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>>159221605
BoS is more alive but CloD still gets like 40-50 people peak times on TF
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>>159221752
>>159221771
I guess I'll buy CloD now and BoS down the line.
Thanks.
>>
BMS
>>
>28.10.2016
>Last Friday (October 23) we began alpha-testing of a new version which includes DirectX 11. First results are promising; FPS has increased significantly even in cases when not all optimizations were included.
i want dx11 so bad, and play BoS above 30 fps
why didnt they develop the game in dx11 to begin with? dx9 is ancient
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>>159221064
By switching to manual. It's not that hard, it'll teach you a lot about driving, and you'll drive better for it because you'll be conscious of things you weren't before.
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>>159221759
What's going on with the flaps here?
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>>159221605
CloD is quite dead outside of peak times. Though as others have said, BoS will be a better game when the BoK features start arriving at the beginning of next year.
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>>159224009
Cooling is opened
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>>159219212
yes, you need to be in the same group.

well it did work ed has probably broken it by now
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>>159224239
Huh, didn't know the upper flap moved upwards.
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>>159224343
Automatic radiators are cuhrayyzee bub
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>su27 buffed
wow cry baby much?
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>>159227849

Saw some changes, has anyone tested it? I've been flying it a lot lately.

Buffed makes it sound like this is some competetive game.
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>>159228686
>some competetive game
it isn't?
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>>159227849
https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2941552&postcount=56

The snibbity will probably be harder to snab.
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>>159221605
BOS my dude
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>>159229803
>ability to not only mark F10 map but it's also shared between all players on the same coalition
If you can add these in the mission editor as well, this could be fucking huge. One of the reasons DCS MP is garbage is because ED gives players exactly 0 tools to communicate with each other and coordinate. Now mission designers (hopefully) can mark down locations of interest on the map for everybody on the same side to see. Fighters know what to defend, attackers know what to attack.
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>>159231087
>ED gives players exactly 0 tools to communicate
other than the token bullseye mark
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>>159214603
source
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>>159231087

Yeah this should be pretty lit.

I wonder if it's something you can do in flight.

People already say you shouldnt be able to because its cheating, but IRL there is constant communication between everyone so it makes up for it imo.
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>>159231442
They specifically say you can add them in flight. The real question I have is if they can be added before the flight in the mission editor.

Also
>ED's Spitfire
>Selectable wing option of elliptical or cropped end (for final release)
VEAO cucked even harder than before
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>>159231932
>VEAO cucked even harder than before

>inb4 ED makes a p-40
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>the Hawk got multicrew before the Huey and Hip
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>>159236046
The M̶i̶G̶-̶1̶.̶4̶4̶ J-20 is the sexiest fighter since the F-14, god please give it the engines it deserves
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>>159238202
>eats an AMRAAM 30 miles out due to shit stealth
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>>159238359
Notice I said nothing about its performance other than the shitty engines it has

It's just fucking sexy
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>>159238532
Fucking agreed.

C A N A R D S

It legit looks like an Ace Combat superplane
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>ED pushing Spitfire out the door

Fucking good, I hope they hurry up and finish all this WWII shit so they can focus on what DCS is actually good at.
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>>159238202
They'll get new engines when they buy some su-35s and promptly copy the engines.
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>>159241202
Russia was not happy with them when they made unauthorized Su-33 copies so who knows if they will ever get Su-35s, especially since they are so new. Mikoyan however is likely more desperate for customers so maybe Chink MiG-35s in the future?
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There are people who unironically want the F-117 and think it's reasonable to make in DCS.

Like c'mon now it's better than a trainer but It's a huge fucking meme.
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>>159236046
Something interesting about the airshow flight they did is that the Chinese think it's true radar signature is worth hiding. There's little Lunenburg lenses mounted under the plane like the F-22 and F-35 have when they make public appearances.
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>>159241616
>Planes I don't like are a meme
I agree, same goes for the MiG-25 and 29.
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>>159050125
I've only ever played Microsoft Flight Simulator, how is IL-2 and DCS. I imagine both are a little more in depth, but how hard are they to just jump into with a HOTAS and foot pedals? Also I want to start playing Silent Hunter again, and I was wondering if I was missing anything by playing it unmodded?


I've been gone for a long time, why is all this one thread and did /a3g/ implode on itself?
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>>159242101
did /a3g/ implode on itself?
Yes, hence why they're not welcome here.
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>>159242101
If you want to discuss arma do it in the memespeak. Otherwise its not allowed in the thread.
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>>159241884
Tell me how the F-117 isn't a meme
>Only armament is 2 GBUs
>Flies like ass
>Managed to get shot down by Serbians 3 times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n5jYJliNvM
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http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/168-developer-diary/page-4#entry405724

THICC GLASS COCKPIT
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>>159242101
You can jump from FSX to DCS or IL-2 without too much problem.

You'll notice the differences mostly at higher AoA, during ordinary smooth flying there is not so much difference. Propellers do create torque on the whole airframe a lot more noticeably (as it should be), but that also comes down to low power GA vs. high power fighters
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>>159242413
I was just curious, I found a group that wasn't them a long time ago.

I am curious about the SH3 question, I really liked it but people seem surprised that I never bothered with that Grey Wolves Expansion and they never really explain why they're surprised.
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>>159242810
Sweet. Thanks.
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>>159241884

MiG25 i can understand, but the MiG29 is something even the most patriotic burgerboos should want simply so that you could shoot down full fidelity slavboos.
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>>159217769
One of the best VR exp I have. I freakin love it.
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>>159243282
>shoot down full fidelity slavboos.
I want this.
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>>159244197

>Full fidelity F-14s and F-18s vs full fidelity MiG-21s and MiG-29s

This is a future I'd look forward too.

Too bad it will never ever happen, so you guys better hope OPFOR players are cool with getting bodied in the Fishbed or flying FC3.
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>>159245190
>burgerboos so pathetic they can only shoot down a previous gen fighter and a cheap ass 2nd line multirole
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Post your custom Il-2 skins

My night fighter BF-109F4
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>>159247345
How the fuck did night fighting even work in WW2?
Dark as shit yo.
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Reminder that this is THE quintessential slavboo aviation video.

Literally the best.

https://youtu.be/I9xkxwSwJBs
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>>159248516
Moonlight, damn good eyes, very early kinds of radar, lighting targets up from the ground, must have been hell to be honest
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>>159247345
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>>159248592

>4:05
>"we will return, we will return..."
>cuts to clips of modern russian airforce

my dick every time.
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>>159248690
Its very hard looking for targets when you just about to crash into them.
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Who's buying the DCS Spitfire module? It's kinda tempting, but something feels off about WW2 aircraft in DCS. They just feel better in IL2: BoS for some reason.
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>>159249139
>nightfighting
>lots of light
faggot
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>>159251339

Could it feel off because you are flying them over Georgia and getting shot at by ZSU emplacements and shilkas?
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>>159251425
No, that couldn't be it.
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>>159251339
I want to because its a Spitfire but it will end up as dead content like sub 4 gen shit.
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>>159251384
Fuck off cunt :^)
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>>159251504
Maybe it's the tunguska that shot a missile at you from 10 km away.
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>>159251339
Already pre-ordered it. I want it just because it's a spitfire (I'm also a britbong) and I want to learn and fly one, I have no delusions about it being competitive against late war German fighters.
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ww2 is shit
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>>159247345
do mp skins work in bos

cause they dont clod

>>159252993
u fuckin wut m9
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>>159252993
This. We have to pretend it didn't take place during a boring time in military aviation just because of the importance. Props are gay as shit lmao
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>>159253293
They're not gay, they're just mechanically uninteresting, and there's about a dozen better sims for WW2 stuff out there. DCS is basically the only modern sim and should focus on that, not this WW2 shit which detracts them from doing the things that actually makes them money.

I bet the F18 was delayed for so long partly because they have an entire team dedicated to a WW2 map and one team on the spitfire.
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>>159253489
>because they have an entire team dedicated to a WW2 map
It's being done by an unnamed 3rd party.
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>>159253178
They do but you need to download them and have them installed
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>>159253676
That's bullshit, but I believe this. Still, Spitfire is consuming resources. Continued 2.0 development is taking resources, when they should feature freeze it and get 2.5 out asap. Sand is thus also taking resources
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>>159253293
>Props are gay as shit lmao

I can easily imagine just what this fucktard is like. Sits in his jet..sees target on radar..locks, fires missile...pats himself on the back for great dogfighting skills.

kys you tween faggot.
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>>159253976
>Assshitter triggered propfag detected

I bet you rub engine grease and oil on your face too for your immersion. Kys.
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>>159253976
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God damn the MiG-29 was a peice of shit.

>During the night of March 24/25, 1999: Yugoslav air force scrambled five MiG-29s to counter the initial attacks. The two fighters that took off from Niš Airport were vectored to intercept targets over southern Serbia and Kosovo, were dealt with by NATO fighters: the MiG-29 flown by Maj. Dragan Ilić was damaged. He landed with one engine out and the aircraft was later expended as a decoy. The second MiG, flown by Maj. Ilijo Arizanov, was shot down by an USAF F-15C piloted by Lt. Col. Cesar Rodriguez. The pair from Batajnica Air Base (Maj. Nebojša Nikolić and Maj. Ljubiša Kulačin), were engaged by USAF Capt. Mike Shower who shot down Nikolić while Kulačin evaded several missiles fired at him while fighting to bring his malfunctioning systems back to working order. Eventually realizing that he could not do anything, and with Batajnica AB under attack, he diverted to Belgrade Nikola Tesla Airport, and landed safely, his aircraft temporarily concealed under the tail of a parked retired airliner.[59] The fifth and last MiG-29 to get airborne that night was flown by Maj. Predrag Milutinović. Immediately after take-off his radar failed and electrical generator malfunctioned. Shortly after, he was warned by SPO-15 of being acquired by fire control radar, but he eluded the opponent by several evasive manoeuvres. Attempting to evade further encounters, he approached Niš Airport intending to land when he was hit by an 2K12 Kub in a friendly fire incident and forced to eject. In total, the 127.LAE launched five MiG-29s on that night, of which three were shot down, one badly damaged, and one returned in unserviceable condition. Not a single pilot was killed
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>>159254214
No you little tween female repellent. It is just funny when you hear a 12yr old talk like he knows shit. So many here do though of course. Just your middle school level posts are cringe worthy is all man. Enjoy your pretend skill set.
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>>159254410
Yeah, but can you ramp start?
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>>159255067
The anal anguish is real. It's okay, we'll play ww2 ops at some point in the futurNNHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>159255062

>In the morning of March 25: Maj. Slobodan Tešanović stalled his Mig-29 while landing on Ponikve Airbase after a re-base flight. He ejected safely

>In the afternoon of March 25, 1999: Two Yugoslav MiG-29s took off from Batajnica to chase a lone NATO aircraft flying in the direction of Bosnia. They crossed the border and were engaged by two US F-15s. Both MiGs were shot down by Captain Jeff Hwang.[65] One MiG pilot, Major Slobodan Perić having evaded at least one missile before being hit ejected and was later smuggled back to Yugoslavia by the Republika Srpska police. The other pilot, Captain Zoran Radosavljević, did not eject and was killed.

>On April 5, 6 and 7 one Yugoslav Mig-29 was scrambled to intercept NATO aircraft, but each time Yugoslav pilots refused battle due to malfunctions.

>On May 4, a Yugoslav MiG-29, piloted by Lt. Colonel Milenko Pavlović, was shot down at a low altitude over his native city Valjevo by two USAF F-16s. The falling aircraft was possibly hit as well by Strela 2 fired by Yugoslav troops. Pavlović was killed

slavs shooting their own plane that is already going down with strelas. jesus christ
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>>159255182

Yeah its easy as fuck. Anybody that autostarts is a fucking pleb and needs to uninstall the game.

Its the easiest shit in the world.

RCtrl + L
RCtrl + Home
RAlt + Home

Literally 3 steps.
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>>159255062
>>159255441
wow mig a shit
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>join server
>track ir off
>join server
>game crashes
>join server
>track ir off

FUCKING DCS

GOD DAMN IT
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>>159255067
>thinks he hard for flying a Cessna with guns attached like the high schools dropouts known as WWII pilots
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>>159256583
wait

how did you dodge a missile coming at you straight from your 12

do you have a tacview track of that?
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>>159256583

gods plane
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>>159255401
Haha, you live a life of imagining peoples emotional state based off of posts here? Kid, you know where you are right?

> It's okay, we'll play ww2 ops at some point in the futurNNHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

wtf does this mean? Do you pretend to think that the faggots of /simg/ are like some mp base of operations? Really kid?
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Stop arguing and fly planes
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>>159253293
Here's your (You)
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>>159257728

are u new
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>>159256840
full on aspect isn't a very good state for the missile to be in, as every tiny stick movement of the target plane results in a huge variance in the predicted impact point

It gives the missile huge energy but poor manueverability
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>>159257884
>/simg/
>flying planes
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>>159256823
>thinks he actually is a jet fighter pilot
>couldn't fit in cockpit of real plane without being greased.
>painted his 'call sign' on the passenger door of his mom's car.

Did mom make you a good sammich today?
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>>159257728
Oh my sweet summer child. Get back to warthunder general. Oh wait....
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>>159258182
>Haha, you live a life of imagining peoples emotional state based off of posts here? Kid, you know where you are right?
???
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>>159258182
t. inevitable ww2 weeb analog who faps over his plane-fu and cries himself to sleep each night while the rest of us have fun with with the modern jets.
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>>159258149
>this is what DCS babies actually belive
Am i being (you)`d here?
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>>159257989
Awesome, I am collecting them. This will be added to the collection. Thanks dude.
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>>159256583
What >>159258149 said and if it's an IR missile, a frontal aspect is the best place you can be. It won't have a hot afterburner to look down, and usually the combination of non-afterburning, dropping flares, and front aspect is enough to defeat most IR missiles.
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>>159258432
Oops, got those quotes backwards
>>
yes, give me your (YOUs)..you faggot are so easy to trigger. One fucking post and the ball just picks up speed. I love you faggots.

Now, more MORE (YOU's)
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>>159258323
are you dumb? Please plot out movement vector delta over where a missile in front aspect wants to go and see for yourself.
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>104th has GCI/AWACS and datelink for Su-27's right now

time to remove
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>>159258578
Headon missile defense never works,except when a radar missile motor is still active or recently has burnt off,or when IR seeker gets confused ,due to heat print masked by flares
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>>159247345
I never made a skin but I used skins regularly in 46
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>>159258906
wrong
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>>159259068
Buk yourself
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>>159255441
>>159255062
Like half the mig-29s had working RWR or something, those migs were in an absolutely abysmal state.
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>104th crashes
>everyone moves to blue flag server
>it crashes too

looooooool
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>>159259584
lmao DCS is shit
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/simg/ making DCS great again by creating a 3rd gen server and then seeding it with TS retards so that it fills up when?
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>>159259768
>Simg makes server
>Simg uses new found server power to DDoS competition and be the only server running.

DOO EET
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>>159259768

No use. I posted on hoggit asking why the F-5 vs MiG-21 servers died and I got responses ranging from

"those planes are old and shit" to "FC3 is just as complex if not more complex"

A couple people there missed the servers like me, but the majority were just fine with the fact that nobody plays them.

DCS deserves to die if this is any indication of what the community is like.
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>>159260216
They should legit make a blueflag that only has full fidelity planes.

Oh wait, no russian full module ever xaxaxa
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>>159259708
d-did you just steal my smug anime grill?
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Stonehenge server when?
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>>159260830
y-yes
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>>159261172
I actually cropped that myself, t-thanks for using it
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I can't defeat a missile in the Flanker to save my fucking life.
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>>159251339
>They just feel better in IL2: BoS for some
reason

BoS fm's are terrible in comparison to DCS. The aircraft in BoS are less responsive, have a floaty feel to them, and give you an overal detachted feeling of flight, not to mention the actual speeds, weight, roll and turn rates are all off for planes themselves.
>>
Apparently the network protocol has been changed in today's update. Anyone notice any difference?
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>>159262064
>BoS fm's are terrible in comparison to DCS
>F15C FM
>Su27 FM

BMS is better than both.
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>>159263071
>lol I'll troll by saying a 20 year old game with literal on rails flight modeling that doesn't even model stalls or spins is the greatest thing eva
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>>159262064
>and give you an overal detachted feeling of flight
This is complete bullshit, BoS' feeling of flight is far beyond DCS. In DCS you feel very detached from the plane imo.
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>>159262064
>Planes feel better in BoS than DCS
>This is because DCS has a better flight model

What the fuck was your reasoning behind this then you utter mong
>>
You guys do realize the F-15 and Su-27 are some of the most accurate flight models in the game right?

Wing snap and super glued bags are some fucked up details, but in general the flight models are top notch.
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>>159263561
No.
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>>159263561
>>159263691
There's a reason coordinating your turns in DCS involves staring at the slip indicator.

DCS' flight models are better, for $60 a module, they better fucking be. But they aren't really bothered about nailing a feeling of flight.
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>>159263891
BoS has no feeling of flight whatsoever, on top of innacurate flight performance. Fuck off you jew slav shill.
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>>159264436
>BoS has no feeling of flight whatsoever,
Enjoy flying in a nice straight line because air and wind barely exist my DCS WW2 friend.

>jew slav shill.
>ED defence force calling other jews.
oh my days


This has to be bait.
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>>159173523
something that i don't understand about the Mig 29, it was a shit as an airframe too or it was inferior because shitty russian technology?
>>
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>>159264969
It does the job, it's designed to be a short range interceptor and it is just fine at it. Against it's early 80s peers it's okay.

Live every slav plane it was limited by crappy avionics and ergonomics, but the limitations due to those weren't a big deal in the role it operated in.
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>>159265294
>It does the job, it's designed to be a short range interceptor and it is just fine at it. Against it's early 80s peers it's okay.

>literally outclassed by every 1st world fighter on the planet the day it entered service
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>>159265541
>literally outclassed by every 1st world fighter on the planet the day it entered service
Like I say, it's an frontal aviation interceptor. It's there to massacre A-10s and F-16s loaded with bombs. It's a waste to send against F-15s.
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>>159264969

Shit airframe? No.
Shit basically everything else? Yes.

Performance wise, it was and still is great. Its simple to fly,stable, maneuverable as fuck, has amazing thrust to weight, and is fast.

Its limited by basically 0 situational awareness, another fighter restricted to being GCI slaves. Shitty radar, mediocre RWR.

Its missiles are outclassed by any NATO equivalent.
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>>159265701
>massacre F-16s
>by hoping the Viper pilots arent carrying any A2a weapons at all
>and hope they enter a turn fight with them
>which, even at this point, they would lose as the F-16 is an actual 4th gen FBW fighter designed from the blue print stage for real dogfighting

No. The MiG-29 was never a competitor to anything, well maybe it could kill MiG-21s flown by towelheads, but even that is stretching it
>>
oh my fucking god, they weren't joking.

Turning on the MiG-21 radar in multiplayer makes your FPS slowly move to 1
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>>159266205

wtf i hate mig now?

Although I think the MiG-29A would fair ok against F-16A's. I don't think the difference there is too extreme.
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>>159251853
Frankly, you should have been better at using chaff and ECM. Though the RWR in the Spit is a bit shit I suppose.
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>>159266353
It's not, the F-16A is just as limited as the 29A.
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>>159266554
Remember when they tried to nerf the F-16A by giving it an F-5E radar and the engine from an F-4?
>>
>Iraqis and Yugoslavs replace all of their MiG-29's with Su-27S's before their respective conflicts

What changes
>>
60 dollars per module means that 1 wing flying mirages or mach 3 su27s are realistic.
T.dcsfags
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>>159267714
Kill yourself, you don't even fly ops, you shitpost to cause arguments about sims
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>>159267795
>this is what shitposters actually believe
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>>159267795
O look a butthurt "kys" underaged shitter apears
I dont fly your stupid dcs missions
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>>159267938
>>159268014
(You)

Now fuck off or get in the TS so I can bully you myself
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>>159268178
I dont hangout with autists like craig
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>>159268336
No?

It's strange that you'd come here and shitpost about sims you don't even play then.
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>>159268380
Calm down and read what you're you're writing before posting. Cant understand what a sperg writes.
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>>159267394
Nothing.

Iraqis are still inbred muslims, and Yugoslavs still have absolutely no money for upkeep and flight hours.
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>>159267394
Nothing as superior western doctrine and training will prevail.

Reminder that 1 US pilots get more air hours in a week than a Russian one in whole year.
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>>159269135
so he flies 168 hours a week?
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russian planes suck
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>A-10 can defeat 3 2nd pole R-77 shots, and two R-73's by just dumping countermeasures while in a 1.5G turn

I fucking hate DCS so god damn much
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>>159269964
This is factually correct.
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This is a air trucker thread now bois
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>>159268738
I'm writing in plain English
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The iraqis air force during desert storm is now 200 MiG25s.

What happens.
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>>159270635
What airline you flying bois.
>>
>>159271383
Luftwaffe Stalingrad Express service
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swfvpp6dUxA

ANGEREY
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>>159273381
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>>159274171

Nice edge loser.
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Hey, I'm the guy who made the tankfag pastebin. Been gone for a long-ass while because of work, and just kind of generally not wanting to play vidya much (especially tanksims, I don't know anyone else who's into that sort of stuff, nobody to talk to and no new content really being made for most tanksims makes it a bit dull)

anyway, yeah. Does anything need to be changed or added to the pastebin?
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>>159271383
Another 747-400 to fly.
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>>159051936
PPL, IR, CPL, Going to get my multi engine soon, Instructor afterwards.
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>>159051936
CFI/CFII
>>
>>159276995
>>159276814
Yooooo 141/61?
>>
>>159277058
141
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>>159277120
which school? I start next week
>>
>>159277347
not the one I'm at, if you're just now starting
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>>159273381
lmao that's what happens when your helicopters use ww2 shturmovik tech and tactics
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>>159277120
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>>159276021
I was thinking it was about time to pick up SBPE again. I'll have a read and ask any questions afterwards, if that's ok?
>>
Are there any alternatives to being a CFI?
I'm not confident in thinking I'd be good to teach other people, I just want to fly and get paid to do so.
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>>159279548
There's like transport flights and stuff you can do. CFI is the best way to build hours tho.
>>
>>159279418

Go for it. I let my SBpro license expire because it's a multiplayer-centric thing, but I'd hope I remember enough to help if you need it.
>>
>>159279725

shit game
>>
>>159279725

Did BMS ever add that neato functionality to that one particular block of F-16s where you can project imagery from a FLIR pod to the HUD?
>>
remember to include /a3g/ in the next op this time guys
>>
>>159283308
fuck off cephei
>>
>>159284193

not even him, but it seems everyone is playing arma now...

after ree roo'ing it for months, the majority of the TS is playing.
>>
>>159282950
Yes they did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zItlSeovNy8
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>>159285330
>The thread is now the TS
It never fully was and it will never fully be.
TS is just there for when ops happen. Some people use it like a chatroom in the meantime, however it's not everyone who participates in ops or in the thread.

This will be my only reply.
>>
>>159258984
That's the Hungarian airfield attack single mission right?
>>
desu a discord for /simg/ would be really fantastic. It's so nice to be able to be in my wowg discord, tfg discord, wowsg discord, all at the same time, whereas I rarely open up teamspeak.
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>>159283308
>>159285330
Nice bait dude.
>>159286657
Not happening.
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>>159286657
>>159286754
>>159286483
>>159283308
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>>159287482
>>
>you can't even quit out of DCS without it fucking up
>>
>the f15 can beat the 29 in a turnfight

top wew if you believe this
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ded
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>>159292629
The MiG-29 will break down mid-flight so of course the f-god's plane will win
>>
>>159051936
>How many people here actually do fly something
I used to work on F-15s, 16s, A-10's, H-60's and F-22's. Just looking at the pic in your post triggers the fuck out of me as I remember all the shit we had to do on 15's during a phase inspection.
>>
>>159292629
Best pilot wins and if you are at gun range in an F15 you are doing something horribly wrong.
>>
>>159297501
>Head on merge
>IR Seekers from both sides, both miss from front aspect
>Mig 29 pulls hard into the fight
>Loses both hyrdaulics circuits
>F-15 pulls a gentle 4G turn into the Mig
>Rips off all pylons and snaps the left wing
>Pilot has to eject
>Mig limps back home
>Official statement: Training accident
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>>159299348
we should play that op again desu
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiHYndG5EzM
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>>159299675
tony pls
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>>159299585
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>>159300082
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>>159300261
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>>159262670
Yeah, it is somehow worse than before.
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>>159276038
gaem?
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>>159298171
>says F-15 snaps wing and rips off pylons in a 4g turn

anon please this is what would really happen:
>Gentle 4g turn
>Levels out
>Nose falls off with pilot
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>>159304424
>Be Northrop Grumman
>Make wings stronger than cockpit area.
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>>159276021
List of all tank sims available?
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>>159305461
World of tanks
thank me later
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>>159273381
>No allah ackbars
>No second helicopter pulling cover

What's happening?
>>
>>159305461
armored warfare
thank me later
>>
>>159306273
thanks, i just downloaded this and it's amazing, reminds me of the Iraq War
>>
>>
can someone post bms night op pictures?
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>>159308845
soon
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>>159292629
It can
Quite easily
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>the 29 can do anything
wew people seriously believe this?
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>>159300261
>complaining that you fired a missile into the fucking sun and it loses track

dude what is overexposure lmao
>>
Is it just me or have we actually NEVER used the f5 for any A/G stuff? Considering that that's what it did most IRL and that is has much more variety in the A/G department too, why the fuck aren't we using the F5 for more a/g shit?
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>>159312080
We had PvP ops where the F-5s got blown the fuck out and the MiGs acted like ace piltos and chimped out celebrating that they bodied some unescorted ground attackers
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MiGGers just couldn't handle the heat.
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>>159309402
"S-O-O-N" is a funny way of spelling "NEVER EVER"
>>
>>159311990
Why is it tracking fine until it gets right next to the UFO plane?

When the missile has the sun it immediately goes for it.
>>
>>159314054
Western Tech prevails again
>>
So, I wanna get into car sims, can someone recommend ones that would work on a 2011 shitty laptop?
>>
>>159315627
rFactor

http://get-good.net/index.php?title=RFactor
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>>159315714
Thanks, gonna try the light version if it works on my pc!

Forgot specs: i3-2310M, 4Gb RAM, GeForce GT 525M, 250Gb slow ass HDD
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>>159312080
Because the F-5 doesn't have CCIP and is hard to aim bombs/rockets with in a sim that has no splash damage.
>>
>2016
>DCS is still shit

>2016
>BMS is still good

why?
>>
Just got out from under OR after two hours of pissing about in the M2000. Shit is immersive as fuck. Why have I not spent more time in that aircraft?
>>
>>159316626
>>2016
>>DCS is still shit
>>2016
>>BMS is still shit

Fixed ya.
>>
>>159299675
YOB' TVOYU MAT'..............

cyka pizdets................
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>>159316686
Be careful talking about that plane here, you'll get flamed because it's "Broken FC3 tier shit"

It's my favourite plane in terms of aesthetics in DCS
>>
You've been gnomed chum haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n3pFFPSlW4
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NEW BMS THEATER

KURILE ISLANDS

https://www.bmsforum.org/forum/showthread.php?28770-Kurile-Island-conflict-1-0-for-BMS-4-33
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>>159322631
>blu3wolf
Its like sucking ivans dick again!
>>
>>159322631
>must log in
post pictures you faggot
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>>159323156
>spoon feed me
>>>/reddit
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>>159323250
i'll spoon feed you my cum faggot, just show pictures so it's not a pain in the ass for the rest of us
>>
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>>159323495
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>>159323495

How will you get it of you can't login?
For some reason he didn't post a picture of the entire campaign map.

Background pictures are Su-35s. This is the only one of the map, but apperently it works and has plenty of red planes to fight.
>>
ED finally decided to turn their server on.

Beta patch is available.
>>
Is this also the Thread for Euro Truck Simulator?
>>
>>159325328
Yes, it's in the OP.
>>
>>159325328
aye laddie
>>
>>159323038
What did he mean by this?
>>
>>159326998
>>159327169
recomend me a map expansion for 1.25
>>
>>159327735
I can't because I don't play it that much. I got only the Eastern Europe one.
>>
>>159327223

Not sure. That name is just someone who volunteered to host a download link mirror.

Can't wait go home and try this out.
>>
>>159327979
I remember having a map expansion with Blakans, Greece and Northern Africa.
But on google I find all kind of shit with non-informative description so that you never know on what you are.
>>
>>159242449
>3 times
What? They did it one time, three times was their propoganda
If I'm wrong, proofs please
>>
>>159331483

Its propaganda.

I was watching a Russian documentary about the MiG-29 and they claimed that the Yugoslav MiG-29's killed multiple F-16's, F-15's and F-18's.

Absolute delusion.
>>
>>159331684
You just summoned something what shouldn't have to be done! MiG fans will be very angry when they see what you just said
>>
>>159331864

I am a MiG fan though.

I'm just not delusional, contrary to popular belief.
>>
>>159331997
I like good look of them myself
>I'm just not delusional, contrary to popular belief.
A lot of people here is, what I've noticed
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>>159332123
>A lot of people here is, what I've noticed

>Post fun things

>HAHA YOU ARE ALL DELUDED
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Checking out the new BMS theater.
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>>159332454

So this is the map zoomed out.
Scenario is that Russia/USSR has invaded Japan and established a beach head.

Win scenario for NATO is destruction of all soviet land forces in Japan.
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>>159314054
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Comfy winter ops when?
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>>159314054
>mfw shipped my shirt to the wrong address lol
>>
>>159333282
>Wanting a fucking maple leaf on your clothes.
>>
So lads
time to buy my first joystick for flayan
budget of around 100 euros
yes i did read the OP and i'm still fucking lost
>>
>>159333973
>>
>>159332454
>>159333031
Somebody tell the moron what NATO stands for.

Good job on the theater otherwise, BMS has now more theaters available than DCS has planned.
>>
>>159334112
why is it square?
i'll probably wait for christmas for them hot sales
>>
>>159332327
>Post fun things
>Shilling/Trolling/Baiting/Flaming
>Fun
>>
>>159333227
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=786813177&searchtext=snow
>>
>>159334197
>NATO can't respond to anywhere their power projection allows them to.
>>
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I vastly under estimated how many planes the soviets would throw at us.

That was a fuck fest.

But it was also lit.
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Why are DCS and RoF the only flight sims to not absolutely fuck up online hit detection?
>>
>>159333227
Did you really just do that?
Autist.
>>
>>159336393
>DCS
>Not fucking up hit detection
>Forgetting that whole debacle in Blue Flag where someone was forced to reinstall the game because the netcode fucked missiles launched at him, so serverside they were hits and clientside they were misses
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>>159336319

fuck god its lit
>>
>>159336552
I'm talking about HIT detection, not missile AI flight model fuckery
>>
>>159336682
>Server detects them as hit
>The client detected them as miss

I don't understand how that was down to the missile FM
>>
>>159337220
Same way your plane will crash in a replay where you came nowhere close to in the actual gameplay.
>>
>>159337405
Still, DCS has shitty netcode and therefore fucks up the hit detection.
>>
>>159336569
What a trash of a campaign made by furries
>>
>>159333282
what show is that from?
>>
>>159336476
>Not memeing irl
Normie
>>
>>159338387
Where are you from that you have snow already?
>>
>>159336476
>using autist as an insult in a simulator general on a chink anime image board
>>
>>159338501
Not my picture.
>>
>>159336210
Yeah all the European powers in NATO will send their troops on the other side of the globe in a cold war gone hot and their front line will have nothing.

End yourself.
>>
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>>159338501
>Where are you from that you have snow already?

m8 its actually quite late
>>
>>159339325
>He doesn't know about SEATO which fulfils the same purpose as NATO in Asia

Granted they used the NATO flag for the campaign yea but really NATO is used to describe US allies these days.

It's an inaccuracy yes but the USA and UK headed NATO and SEATO
>>
>>159338501
Not the anon who posted the pic, but here in Russia there is snow for a couple of weeks already.
>>
HAPPENINGS

1.5.5 HAS NEW MIG-29A LIVERIES
MIG-29 NOW HAS WING FLEX
MIG-29 NOW HAS UPDATED EXTERNAL FUEL TANKS

WILL REPORT WITH FURTHER FINDINGS AND PICS
>>
>>159343886

New skin #1.
Engine sound is new
Trim is much more precise, no longer feels like steps, feels as accurate as the Su-27's trim.
>>
Damn fuck.
Recommend me some Mods for ETS.
I am getting bored driving the always same streets all the time.
>>
>>159051064
>>159051150
>>159051936

ahhh damn, I missed the pilot portion of the thread. Milfag here
>>
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>>159344094

New Skin #3

Flight model is different.
Its not PFM, as the landings are still weird and it blows up the second you touch the ground.

The slow speed performance (where the SFM was at its worst) seems improved. Its not as stuttery and scripted anymore.

Its weird, its like a step above SFM, but not yet PFM
>>
>>159345323

KAZAKHSTAN
>>
>>159339325
>Yeah all the European powers in NATO will send their troops on the other side of the globe in a cold war gone hot and their front line will have nothing.

>implying that they'll send more than necessary

shiggidy diggity wiggity wew, there's a nigger in this thread and the nigger is you
>>
>>159343886
>>159344094
>>159345323
>>159345581
Want another fact to blow your mind?

MiG-29G has a new model as well.
>>
>AK is shit, any other rifle is better
>MiG is shit, F-15/F-16 are better
>BMP is shit, bradley/marder are better
>T-80 and T-72 are shit, any tank is better
>Kuznetsov is shit, any other ship at all is better

damn I guess they call it "slavshit" for a reason
>>
>>159349153
really makes u think
>>
>>159347857
Also it could realistically happen as
>USA and UK are in SEATO
>War starts in Pacific
>USA and UK as NATO members too can bring other NATO members into this conflict.

So anon is just an idiot really
>>
>>159349573
>USA and UK as NATO members too can bring other NATO members into this conflict
Don't they need to be attacked tehmselves?
>>
>>159349957
Not really. Like they give a fuck if they bend the rules to their own advantage
>>
>>159349573
Nope as in a cold war gone hot the primary countries for the Pacific would be the US, S. Korea, Japan, Australia and some other minors.

The primary assault of the Soviets would be Europe and sending ground troops from the European front to the pacific is something only a moron would think its possible.
>>
>>159107220
>>159100484
How hard is this game to learn?
>>
>>159353042
You'll lose the first dozen games and perform reasonably on the rest
>>
>>159353109
what game is it?
>>
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>>159354671
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Guys.

The Su-27 is fixed. The Flanker is fucking back.

In 1.5.4, we were basically flying with the G-limiter off, which allowed us to snap wings when ever we want.

1.5.5 has fixed this. By default, you now have the AOA/G-limiter on, and you can not snap wings, regardless of fuel load, weapon load, and speed. It does what its supposed to.

The plane flies MUCH more stable now. No more wobbling every time you perform any maneuver.

If you press W you go back to what we have now. you can use it like you are supposed too, which is in emergency situations that require over-g's.

S is obviously full ACS off still.
>>
>>159355592
This is only an openbeta patch, which means it won't be in the actual game for several months.
>>
>>159357406
Doesn't really matter if we use it for internal ops.

Not like pubbie MP is worth playing anyway
>>
Is there anything special I have to do to setup voice comms in BMS?
>>
>>159358257
why bother

nobody's doing ops anyway

>:(
>>
>>159358185
>we
"we" never play ops anyways
>>
>>159358378
I'd like to know. My mic is shit anyway.
>>
>>159358453
No we don't and it's a shame.
>>
>>159353109
There a decent tutorial anywhere?
>>
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new thred?
>>
>>159050125
Basic attackers, what z-soul are you using?
>>
>russians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC644Ol9U2M
>>
>>159362271
new breaed
>>159363276
>>159363276
>>159363276
>>159363276
>>159363276
>>
>>159363324
fake the new thread is here

>>159363334
>>159363334
>>159363334
>>159363334
>>159363334
>>
>>159363384
I was first.
Real new bread
>>159363276
>>159363276
>>159363276
>>159363276
>>
>>159363324
>>159363497

nobody use the bait thread
>>
>>159363324
>>159363384
>>159363497
Fake and gay threads
>>
>>159340417
>SEATO
That shit was born dead.
Thread posts: 742
Thread images: 230


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