/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

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Behold.... the Puteoli national park. We have... a few trees. And some snow.

>>158903980
>>158903980
>>158903980
This thread was made first, use it instead.

>>158904660
We need a higher res of Philip waving dismissively

>>158904929
>lazy thread with no information
fuck off.

>>158904345
I mean, it literally is how it worked in 5, except new cities don't slap a -3 on you out of the gate and each lux covers 8 people instead of 4.


>>158904626
Yes, because being able to supply the same luxury to more than 4 cities would be bad, because?

>>158904909
Parks have to be 100% within your borders, yes?

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would you smoke doobies with them

>>158905015

No OP, you fuck off with your thread wars.

>>158905063
>Yes, because being able to supply the same luxury to more than 4 cities would be bad, because?

It's just a balance thing. It's a fine design choice if the game is balanced around it, and in this case the game is balanced around it. Sometimes you'll have to sacrifice a city's district to make it an entertainment district, is the point. It's supposed to make you adapt more and not just build the same districts all the time

>>158905189
yup. everything charming or higher and no improvements

>>158905264
thread wars? I made one with information in the thread. you know, the info thats been in all the past threads.

>>158905262
how the fuck do you even expand as a pacifist? you can't war people!

>>158905264
im op of other thread, just let him win, he's got the autism

>>158904909
it's like I'm really there

>play civ 6 for 55 hours
>decide to play BE
>keep backing out if my start isn't good until I realize I can just restart

How retarded were they to leave this out of 6?

>>158905262
Of course not, that snapper turtle would bite my dick off as soon as I'd try anything.

I'm gonna lose ANOTHER fucking game to religion because this time I couldn't grab one early enough and also tomyris decided to go for the religion victory and even though I'm at war with her, there's no way in hell I can kill her hundred horses before she gets her missionaries to the last civ

Apparently in civ6 they fucked up the advanced options and they're reversed. So low sea level = high sea level. This explains a lot.

>>158904660
>be india

>playing with three buddies and 3 AI

>somehow have 20 fucking tourism before mideval

Okay, I know that 8 is coming from the Holy Grail (dunno how I got that), but how do I find out where the rest is coming from?

>>158905368
>autism
>because I did more than just post a shitty photoshopped image as my op post
wew lad

Stellaris codex 1.3.1 hotfix for pirates when?

>>158905526
it sure sounds like autism.

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Oh shit. Guys how worried should I be?

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>>158905593
it sure is autism to take that extra second and copy+paste the previous OP post.

Are the Adaptive/Nonadaptive traits bugged?

I feel that they're double the bonus/malus that they're supposed to grant.

>>158905361
liberate
vassalize
integrate

So civ 6 or civ 5 with all dlc?

>>158905703
you need a rest guy. youre getting all worked up and stressed out.

>>158905368
>>158905593
this sounds like autism indeed, why else would you be in such a hurry to anonymously make an op where you include only an unrelated picture and no body of text?

>>158905609
Mildly. Just leave her be and accept that your research/resource space stations for that star are going to die. It'll just fuck off somewhere eventually and you can rebuild.
Its fucking strong and don't even try fighting it until you've got 20K+ fleet strength.

>>158905751
6

>>158905609
about 10k fleet strength is enough to bring it down
bringing it down gives a permanent boost to energy credits and energy weapon damage

not the best reward (that's the vault, if you ever see the vault OPEN THAT SUCKER, it has an entire new tier of power generators and shields) but not the worst either

>>158905751
civ vi has a lot of bs bugs right now but i prefer it over 5

>>158905751
6 no joke
5 is that bad

>>158905751
ai in 6 is broken

5 is polished

>>158905903
>10k fleet strength
Huh, could've sworn it was stronger then that.

For Stellaris, does anyone know how to unlock the plantoid pack? I heard you have to just change some lines of code, but i don't know where.

>>158905469
so if you set resources to scarce they're plentiful?

>>158905837
because like 3 people asked for it and no one made it. so i put one up , but it wasn't up to your ridiculous standards and you just had to have things your way because autistics don't like it when thing deviate from the norm. i understand.

>>158904909
how do you build national parks? I've had a conservationist for a few turns now but no idea how to use him.

>>158905751
the ai in 6 makes singleplayer pointless
if you're gonna actually buy one of them i'd say civ6 and play one singleplayer game to see the ai for yourself then multiplayer only
if you're gonna pirate it, civ5 ai is still retarded but it's not nearly as bad

>>158905995
10k may be lowballing it but 15k is certainly sufficient if you're good at building ships
wraith is fairly low tier
vault PE I wouldn't tangle unless you have a 25k strength fleet

>playing Stellaris multi with three other friends
>friend next to me just researched Battleships while I'm still on cruisers
>we're 'equivalent' in naval capacity and power, but his technology is 'superior'
>he just broke our NAP

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>>158906035
>make a shit thread
>people call you out on it
>n-no you're all a-autistic!
fuck off

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what a gross whore

for all stellaris players

the Prethoryn Scourge is bugged: it doesn't generate armies anymore which causes it to piss off after 3 years and not conquer anything

to fix this go to events: crisis.1 and remove all the (#)'s before the 'armies' section of event crisis.207 (its near the bottom of the txt)

if you have the scourge in your current game and its been pissing off for a while this may not be sufficient so copy the event, delete everything but the armies section and rename its event tag to something else (I used crisis.209)
then ingame switch to the scourge using tags and spam that new event a dozen times until they once again have a respectable army

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>Civ VI
>Meet Ghandi
>Generally friendly, he's on the other side of the planet, have sparse deals with him, occasionally declare friendship
>Neck to neck in the science race
>"Having a weapons is very different from actually using it"
>"Deterrence has value"
>Unlock uranium
>Ghandi has 2 fucking deposits next to his capital
>In the span of 40 turns
>Greece has been eliminated
>Rome has been eliminated
>China has been eliminated
>Ghandi has denounced you for your evil deeds

>>158906497
I hate to be that guy, but does the fucker have any shields or PD?
Can I just stack lasers and missles and hit the core hard?

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Fucking liars.

>>158907139
its been a while since I fought it, don't think it has anything resembling PD but it may have shields

I do remember beating it with a fleet mostly equipped with ballistic weapons including the admittedly op kinetic artillery on my battleships

>>158905998
Seems like it was just BS and I got trolled, nvm.

>play stellaris for the first time in ages
>only one star in my initial area of influence
>forget to build more ships right away so pirates fuck me up a little
>closest neighbor is fanatical purifiers with more planets and better tech
>playing in ironman mode so autosaves EVERY SINGLE MONTH slow the game down
That wasn't fun at all.

>>158908142
>this game is so slow when I specifically choose the optional mode that does nothing but slow the game down and give me achievements!
>why are there bigger and better empires than me? There should be some kind of advanced AI slider I can set to 0!

>>158908367
To be fair, spawning next to a fanatical purifier empire is an instant reset for me. Also hyperlane travel, got shafted every single time I tried it, does it have any really big advantage I'm missing ?

>>158908367
>first time in ages
I don't think Ironman was in when I played last, so I didn't know it was garbage and just going to force autosaves every month.

I don't care if some empires get an advanced start, but I don't want advanced purifiers literally on my borders. Surviving that was literally impossible.

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>>158904929
I'd be embarrassed if I made this thread tbqhwyf

>>158904660
How do I make my main religion city that same religion dominant again?

I told other civ's to fuck off and they mostly have but my religion hasn't transferred back

>>158908961
>my religion hasn't transferred back
it won't

>>158909003
>03 ▶
>>>158908961 (You)
>>my religion hasn't transferred back
>it won't
fug

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i have no idea how you guys are doing so good at this game.
I am expanding like a madman early game and trying to war weaker fags to snatch their worlds and i still end up in deep shit. (i am Darami Collective)
Khemplar enforcers are awakened ascendancy who just waits to fuck me up.
At least Resheti Consortium likes me.
Also how in the fuck am i supposed to form federation with anyone? Everyone is being total fags giving me like -1050 to acceptance despite being cordial and trusting me.
Politics in this game are totally fucked.
Someone please tell me how to powerplay this game.

>>158909003
If it's a holy city and it hasn't been 100% eliminated, it should come back eventually. Might take a long ass time though.

But yeah if you let your religion get 100% eliminated everywhere then you're fucked. And you should feel bad.

>>158908576
they're the fastest over short distances and don't require you to build stations. the downsides are the obvious chokepoints + moving shit long distances takes longer than the other two

wormholes are better on balance but hyperlanes aren't bad

>>158905997
anyone?

>>158909154
well for one your tech seems to be fairly low

what tech levels do you have researched?

currently playing a game as well and while admittedly I'm playing a materialist empire, I'm at 500+ for all tech and been on repeatable techs only since 2320

small continents when? easily the best map type

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>>158909493
i'm playing Fanatic Militarist + Materialist
for tech i mostly picked shit like naval capacity and went for Kinetic Artillery II.
I also ALWAYS have shitty starts, i am clumped between billion AI's what makes me stuck with low number of worlds while some fag is put alone with half of empty galaxy to expand on
> I'm at 500+ for all tech
no fucking idea how are you doing this. I think i would need comprehensive "how not to suck dick at this game" guide to be worth anything in it.

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Alright boyos.

Sword of the Stars and Master of Orion are on sale on Steam because of Halloween sale.

Can anyone that has played either them sell me on why they're good? Maybe tell me stuff about your experience with them? I'd really appreciate it

>>158909873
Continents + high sea.

>>158909154
Spend those energy credits and terraform every fucking planet in your territory and near it. Your biggest issue definitely seems to be research; less then 100 each by 2400s? You must be doing something wrong.

In my game I've got something like 40 perfect Alpine planets in a space maybe twice as big as yours, which honestly still isn't that large. With the exception of conquered planets and annexed pre-FTL species, all my pops are happy little Alpine babies.
Lots of technology + lots of planets (lots of lv6 space ports) = a fuck huge power fleet.

>>158909180
>it should come back eventually
I don't think it will. In my first game gandhia converted my cities very early and i lost my holy city to his religion and only had two other cities not converted but they still had my pantheon. My religion in my holy city never came back for the entire game

>>158910027
that just gives you two smallish continents with no or very few island. the "small continents" map in 5 gave you three small continents and island chains

>>158910335
Islands plus low seas?

Religious on Huge is bonderline impossible, correct?

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>>158910208
where do i get the planets though, fucking space niggers take everything early and close their borders so i have no way to go past them.
i get imprisoned in a small bubble with maybe 7 planets for 100 years

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>>158909914
well most of it is down to luck really
I got a god tier start and snowballed heavily

also I got one of the most god tier space dragons (the ancient vault)

trust me grab it, enigmatic gear is hilariously powerful
and if you get the dreadnaught space dragon repair it, mine has 12.5k health and 14.7k shields

>>158910490
yes, unless you play with only kongo ai

>>158910490
Not impossible. Tedious.

The rising faith costs though are a bit concerning. You need to mix it with war. And take good spread bonuses or you're fucked.

>>158907282
I guess this is how they curb expansion, since there doesn't seem to be city maintenance anymore.

>>158910224
I think, if you can get inquisitors from 3rd party faith, you might be able to restore your religion by purging yourcities of your enemies faith.

>>158909956
Sword of the Stars
>3d map
>Random tech tree variaton done right
>Unique FTL systems for each faction
>Great tactical depth, but have love it or hate it combat
>Really cool factions
>Nearly no planetside simcity, economy that you deal with is empire wide

Master of Orion
>2d map
>Really cool factions
>No FTL variety
>Standard tech trees
>Neat planet development
>Boring ... pmuch everything else
>Really pretty

>>158907282
But it's true that they don't, they only count if you have more than 4 cities, then the extra copy go to the 5th one, since 1 lux supports the first 4.

>>158910610
7 planets is plenty if you build them right

if you're not pacifist just pounce folks, grab their planets, purge their kind and colonize them

>>158907282
so 2 copies of luxuries won't send 1 lux to 8 cities?
you can only ever use 1 lux (ie 4 cities get the benefit, no more)?
what did he mean by this?

>>158911006
>if you build them right
what is right though?

>>158905997
it's in species or races or something like that, just find whatever file looks vaguely like that and ctrl+f for plantoids

>>158910950
Except it doesn't.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/amenity-guide.602364/

>>158910610
>not taking planets first
>not liberating systems from other empires
>wahhh they have closed borders
lol my warships go where they want

>>158911006
>>158911042
Are people retarded or do we simply have huge turnover today? 1 lux 1 empire 4 cities. The rest are for trade.

>>158911124
Proper usage of adjacency, stacking bonuses, governors etc.

in stellaris somehow my mods don't work
the mod file keeps getting deleted whenever I launch the game

any help?

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>>158911042
Exactly.

1 unique luxury will provide 4 of your cities with +1 amenity, 2 of the same luxury...well...

>>158911247
>Are people retarded
at least people can reply to the right posts

Whats the point of having more than one supply of a strategic resource?

>>158906071
you must have:

>4 tiles in a vertical diamond shape
>own all tiles
>they must have no improvements
>must be charming or better appeal

and just stick the dude in one of the squares and it should light up

>>158911341
>at least people can reply to the right posts
I suspect that I did.

>>158911392
Without encampments you require to horses to build horsemen.

>>158911328
how fucking stupid. And the trade UI is awful

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island cities need a buff. more building need to go in the city center: there's no reason that markets, workshops, libraries, and amphitheaters need to be in their own district.

also would like to see special buildings based on local resources, like the stoneworks, stable, and forge in civ 5

>>158911462
2 horses, or iron or oil or whatever.
More than 2...well, denial is always good. Trading could also be good.

>>158911478
I know, right?

>>158911507
where is the female maldives?

>>158911247
>Proper usage of adjacency
in this regard: mineral silos are ONLY worth building if you can reach lv 2 AND you have 4 adjacent mines
otherwise just build a mine instead

and never build a silo ontop of a tile with minerals, it supresses it

>>158911507
This is stupid: from gameplay perspective obtaining islands is too easy to make them viable for settlement. If you want to go back to stacked cities, play 5.

Germany's leader should be Hitler if the main focus is production and u-boats.

Don't be such pussies Firaxis.

>>158911745
>obtaining islands is too easy
no more or less easier than just settling new cities anywhere else

>>158905737
Bump.

As an aside, I really, REALLY want them the fix the graphical glitches on the ersatz Klingons. They look AWESOME, but those errant pixels drive me crazy.

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>>158910082
the meme man and the meme gal

>>158911507
They should implement artificial platforms.

>>158911850
Actually it should be Panzers, but since it's uboats it should be Dönitz.

>>158911850
haven't we been over this? Hitler was a failure, only successful leaders get in Civ

>>158912112
Hilter brought Germany from world war 1 depression to a production powerhouse in 10 years, anon.

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>>158912112
>Barbarossa

Gif related, another successful leader

>>158911881
Of course it's easier. Competition for islands is nonexistent. Meanwhile continents are covered in proverbial tripwire of every other civ. Island settles just result in that fuckoff city noone but the owner cares about. We need buff to coastal cities/resources sure, since rightnow they are hillariously awful. But the whole "I will build a metropolis under that palm tree is nonsense. And no picture of a modern city doesn't convince me otherwise, because realism, while important part of setting, is utterly unrelated to how cities work in civ, any version there of.

>>158911132
Can you be more specific? I opened species_classes.txt and changed a few lines, but it didn't seem to work

I can't wait for a mod that undoes this >>158911247
>>158911328
honestly I don't like it at all, because half the starts I'm in just have 3 of 1 luxury with nothing but that luxury spread about my starting area

are the devs still on vacation or is there anywhere like twitter where they answer questions

>>158912246
hitler's long term legacy was

1 the permanent destruction of Germany's position as a military power
2 the dissolution of the German nation into 2 puppet regimes
3 the loss of the Prussian territories to various nations
4 the destruction of several historically significant cities, buildings and artworks
5 permanently tainting the view on germany and the german people in the global culture
6 loss of scientific relevance through 2 separate brain drains to the united states

>>158909154
Your play will depend on your ethos honestly. My current game I made a bunch of pacifist xenophiles and everyone around me was willingly sucking my dick within a year of meeting me and I managed to form a federation in the first 25 years. Expansion was accordingly easy since I could go wherever I wanted in my quadrant of the galaxy without fear of anything bad ever happening. As say, collectivist spiritualists however just smashing people in your way and purging their conflicted heretical peoples is a much better way of getting your way.

A good thing to do early on is to claim potential colony sites with frontier outposts and put heavy focus on your infrastructure, don't settle till your homeworld is almost full and built up and try and have 3 good planets spotted out and claimed with outposts and you can usually slingshot from there into a pretty good spot.

Also your tech is absolutely trash. If you really need tech it doesn't hurt to make a dedicated science planet and just stuff it with labs with an orbiting science ship boosting it.

>>158912398
>honestly I don't like it at all, because half the starts I'm in just have 3 of 1 luxury with nothing but that luxury spread about my starting area
Believe it or not that's by design too. The idea is to force you to trade. This whole clusterfuck of a discussion started because I started bitching about how game tries to force you to do things.

>>158912516
And Barbarossa's long term legacy was drowning in a fucking river.

>>158912574
and trading blows, especially with the stupid system they have which is probably made that way on purpose for a console port desu
not to mention the ai agendas make them especially angry at you right off the bat so getting a fair trade is almost impossible

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I finally got around to unlocking my first extra big gun and I'm a little disappointed to not actually see the weapon on the model like the others.
Is this normal or am I missing out because I'm a filthy pirate without access to the 1.3.1 hotfix?

>>158912246
Well, that was mostly Schacht actually. And that's by magical jewery.

>A Mefo bill (sometimes written as MEFO bill), named after the company Metallurgische Forschungsgesellschaft (Metallurgical Research Corporation), was a promissory note used for a system of deferred payment to finance the German rearmament, devised as a legal fraud by the German Central Bank President, Hjalmar Schacht, in 1934.

>>158912516
Attacking Russia was a mistake, doesn't demerit him from his other achievements which is much greater than freddy fucking rosa.

>>158912575
>Historians consider him among the Holy Roman Empire's greatest medieval emperors. He combined qualities that made him appear almost superhuman to his contemporaries: his longevity, his ambition, his extraordinary skills at organization, his battlefield acumen and his political perspicuity. Among his contributions to Central European society and culture include the reestablishment of the Corpus Juris Civilis, or the Roman rule of law, which counterbalanced the papal power that dominated the German states since the conclusion of the Investiture Controversy.

So civ rankings?

Shouldn't that be in the OP from now on?

>>158912793
You see it in play; the ship's main gun constantly glows sinister red if you have a particle lance.

>>158912997
I'm waiting for the first patch/more games to make a real civ ranking list with reasonings and shit.

What civilization do I wanna play:

>Want to pretend tall is still viable, and focus on like 4 cities
>Like smaller, tight knit empires that are easy to defend and turtle
>Less focus on UU, more on the UA or maybe building
>Want to have high production or hog wonders if possible

>>158913142
Germany.
Found Cities in a box formation with production/commerce in the middle.
Enjoy 300 hammers.

>>158913142
Japan for the tight knit, plus religious or culture victory with them is deece

America, simply because they shit out tourism.

>>158913142
JAPAN
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>>158912997
>Shouldn't that be in the OP from now on?
Yeah as soon as we can get two people to agree on something like that. And establish worldwide rule of the proletariat while we are at it.

S-Scythia
A-Rome,Monty,Germany, Sumer
B-Greeks, Russians, Japan, Kongo
C-China, India, Egypt, America, Brasil
D-French,English, Arabia, Spain
Joke-norway

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WAIFU
A
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>>158912574
>The idea is to force you to trade.
In my experience fucking everybody has cotton nobody ever settles near spice or incense.

>>158913142
japan and germany are your best bets.

>Civ 4/5
>Every tile had 2 yield as base
>Every bonus resource was 3->4 yield

>Civ 6
>Spices 3 production 2 food as base
>Woods are 3/4 yield
>Plains Hill (and only plains hill) is a 2+2 start
why?

anyone else think that there aren't enough bonuses for having high tourism? it doesn't affect anything but the victory condition.

>>158913142

Russia can work. It's ICS. But their holy sites dont count against their district cap so they function like Germoney.

>>158913532
Why are you still playing BE?
Not joking, I actually wanna know if it got an good after the expansion.

>>158913532
> playing BE
Why not just shoot yourself in the dick anon, its faster and less painful

>>158912385
>>158911132
>>158905997
So I managed to unlock the portraits, does anyone know how to unlock the ship designs/ city background?

>>158913515

The only thing I would really contest is China in this list. They are SHIT unless they land a perfect wonder slingshot.

>>158913779
>>158913827

It's okay after the expansion. Some of the diplomacy changes they made are fantastic, and some of them are retarded. The AI kind of spams you with shit, but they also now have respect and fear that will change based on factors. So the AI is more pleasant to play with.

Being able to combine affinities is great. Now you can go supremacy purity, or suprem harmony, which is great.

New factions is nice.

The ocean changes are cool. Also being able to build ocean cities is neat.

The artifact thing is fun honestly. Finding and reading about alien, super ancient alien, or human artifacts is neat, and combining them into unique buildings.

I am mostly playing it because I put 60 hours in 6 and am burnt out, and I love future stuff. I don't know what else to say really. When I first got it ages ago I only put 20 hours into it, but now I'm really enjoying it. I guess civ 5 and 6 made me sort of give up on the whole being bummed about "what civ could be" and I just enjoy the game sin the series more.

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#justgermanianthings

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So, King Kongo attacked my colonies on his continent thinking they would be easy pickings, completely neglecting the battleships I had parked an island away as well as my GDP allowing my to spit out an army at demand. Admittedly, the main thing that saved me from any damage to my infrastructure was Zanzibar deciding to suddenly become my client and bravely send their spearmen as fodder for his cavalry and musketmen as I got the battleships into position.

Using this opportunity, I liberated Sweden and Switzerland (or at least their CS incarnations), and devised a set off RoE to incapacitate and nab cities without getting any warmonger points. It's fairly simple:

1. Disable the defenses of every city via artillery or battleship bombardment
2. Pillage all luxury resources to get amenities down
3. Park artillery or another ranged attacker next to a city and shoot at it every turn to keep it stunlocked - this also gives you free experience!

There were twists and turns: Zanzibar briefly defected to the other side until I threw some envoys their way and they quit the war entierly (taking with them their upgraded units - a thank you would have been nice), Canada joined the war for some reason, and In the end, King Kongo was unable to support most of his cities so he gave them up as (including Broadway: I was wondering who completed that before me, ya cheeky cunt) part of the peace treaty, while America was hailed as a true hero and managed to actually earn praise for its conduct from other civs.

Also, those German units were about to take the opportunity to nab those Kongenese cities before they were transferred to me: nobody likes King Kongo, and now I know why.

One other intersting thing I found is that units do stack: when assaulting encampments, which was a boon when I needed to send eight Rough Riders to take one out.

>>158914037
Have you played Alpha Centauri? I'm just curious

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HAPPY HALLOWEEN CIVFAGS

>>158913873
Eh Wonders are easier to build in 6 because how shit they are compared to districts. That doesn't sound like a ringing endorsment for china, but hear me out.

There is a set of decent early game wonders:
Stonehendge, Oracle, Colliseum, Petra, Pyramids a couple others I can't be bothered to look up. But AI isn't as eager to build them as before and in MP a lot of people avoid them too.
Why? Because no refunds in the game about the wonders of production, makes them all a fool's bet. Not so for china - if your start isn't utter garbage, you can easly get most of them. Just have to rush the +15% civic. And you are set.

>>158913636
>>158913279
Im not quite getting what Germany has to do with doing this.

>>158914125
I have. I'm just too casual to get into it honestly, so I have no basis for disappointment with BE beyond Civ 4 being my favorite.

>>158914285
>no refunds
Shit, I hadn't thought about that.
Why the fuck did they remove that?

>>158914350
What did you find complicated in Alpha Centauri that you found too dense to get into, being "casual"?

Again, I'm just genuinely curious.

Was it mostly the old presentation, or was there something else in the mechanics that threw you for a loop, or what?

>>158914495
Well, grapix are something I enjoy, mostly because the civ series are about seeing my land develop. BE gives me double this because I get to watch my units transform into something radically different. My cities too. Rising tide lets me see my leader transform as well so that's nice.

I don't remember exactly what in AC stumped me. I think it was something with how the terrain worked. Or units in general. It wasn't like modern civ games, IIRC, where you move a unit and colonize. I'd have to play it again, but there was just something about it that threw me off and I didn't bother.

>>158914326
germany has some of the best industry with their unique district, because it unlocks a shitload earlier than the normal industrial district, costs less, doesn't take up a district slot, and also gets bonus production on commercial district adjacency. Plus, they get an extra district regardless of population. This lets you snowball in the early game, even with a few cities, since each one can get a holy site/encampment/or campus in the early game regardless of pop, as well as a hanza pretty soon after.

>>158914326
It's the strongest nation production wise if you can keep your main cities within a 6 tiles of each other.

>>158914657
I see, well thank you for answering
I'm glad BE is proving to be fun for you, anyhow

>>158914670
>>158914732
I kind of get how the hansa works now, but it seems like Germany would be better just going super wide with it.

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GROSSGERMANIAGROSSDEUTSCHESREICH

>>158914670
It doesn't take up a district slot?

How?

Also, both unlock at apprenticeship.

>>158914326
Hansa gets +2 from being adjacent to a commercial zone and +1 from two other adjacent districts. So if you pack in your Hansa's and Commercial hubs in a tight ball, the Hansa's can all get like +6 or more production. Throw a bunch of factories in there and you have an instant industrial powerhouse.

>>158914830
unique districts dont take up a district slot iirc

>>158914816
And that's how you do it. Keep populations low, around 4 or so in the throwaway cities you only got for those additional trader slots, run a merchant republic and circular trade the shit out of everything.

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How do Galactic Civilizations 1 and 2 stack up with Master of Orion 1/2 and Sword of the Stars 1?

I have never played any of these games. The last space strategy game I played was Star Wars: Empire At War a long time ago. I am however quite fond of Civ games including Alpha Centauri.

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>Picking anything other than Classical Republic

>>158914940
Really? Huh, so if you add that additional district slot, that means you can have 3 districts on a 2 pop city?
Damn.

>>158914657
>It wasn't like modern civ games, IIRC, where you move a unit and colonize
It was.

>>158914992
The guy literally asked for a tall civ recommendation.

>>158915092

I tried the +1 yields to capital thing but it didn't seem to work since I didn't see any affect on tile yields.

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>want to continue my stellaris empire
>want to start a new game of civ vi
>cant choose
>end up just shitposting all day

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>>158904660
He's so much more animated then the other leaders

It's kind of jarring

>>158913142
China.

>>158913515
fuck off commie

>>158915201
Not how it works, just give +1 of everything once. Not to worked tiles.

How to heal religious units?

>>158915492

S H I T

>>158915024
Warning - I really like sots.
Moo/Galciv can be safely ignored.
Moo 2 and Galciv 2 are about on the level. Moo wins out by having interactive combat, except when you get tired of it. Galciv wins out by being more modern. Pick and chose. Sots doesn't directly compare well with other 4x because it has unusual focus - wars. This means simcity micro of your planets is not a thing. This means that every star is simplified down to 1 planet. It also has a 3d map. But combat/tech race aspects of it are outstanding. Unless, again, you happen to hate it's combat, than you can safely skip it.

>>158915482
Right back at ya pig.

>>158915535
Seriously? I mean the other shit would have been way too strong, better than Petra and for what? A government?

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>Stellaris
>finally gain access to Garanthium ore
>Each of my fleets power shoots up several k each
mfw

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Just fractal my shit up, senpai.

>>158915609
Getting that Achilles targetting systems and all plasma guns.

Why can't you work tiles that have districts on them

Why can't we build every district on water

>>158914281
What movie?

>>158915873
yes

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>>158915791

Took 82 turns to find the nearest civ.

>>158915873
a district essentially destroys the base tile. you can assign specialists once you build buildings with slots (usually second-level buildings like university, factory, bank, etc.)

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Xeno scum in range of my wormholes.
Should they be exterminated?

>Wheat can't spawn on tundra
This is why Russia is shit

>>158916220
no not yet
until 20 years in your fleets are literally incapable of even touching spaceports
its part of the latest update

Everybody here plays on deity, right?

>>158916507
I play on King mostly

>>158916483
oh

What's tall and wide?

>>158916507
I'm a KingShitter

>>158916507
I play on Prince because I expected the game to be harder than it turned out to be.
In my next game I'll move up to King and if that's too easy I'll do Emperor on the next one.
I have no interest in Deity because I don't have autism.

>>158916646
tall= small amount of cities
wide=large amount

>>158915365
It really seems like each leader was made by a different artist
You have semi-realistic ones like Teddy and Peter and then straight up cartoons like him and Pedro

>>158916782
Thanks anon.

>>158916507
currently moving up to deity from emperor, didn't account for the even shittier ai in this game

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Wish me luck, boys.

Stellaris
Does anyone else have issues with the randomize button for naming planets?

Mine simply just doesn't work anymore and I sincerely doubt that I've burnt through every name. I also had troubles early on in my game where I'd have to click it several times to get a name and now it just doesn't work.

>>158916646
Tall means lots of pop
Wide means lots of cities
It's from Civ 5's shitty global happiness system, which forced you to pick one or the other.

Whats the turn timer like for people on 6700/6800s?

4690 here and it takes forever on large maps around turn 100 on quick

Fractal is pretty much the only playable map type desu

>>158916785

Why is Pedro such a haughty jerk in this game? What happened to cool old guy in a tuxedo Pedro?

>>158916964
ur fcked

>>158916507
I played on emperor on 5, currently doing immortal for 6 and isn't finding that much harder

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>>158916507
It was worth it.

>>158915968
army of darkness

>>158916507
finished my first deity game, it was too easy :((((

>>158916973
the tall/wide nomenclature has been around a lot longer than civ 5

>>158917241
that achievement means nothing, it's too easy to cheese:
1. duel map against kongo, beeline archers and fight off the early DOW, make a religion, convert at your leisure
2. score victory enabled, turn limit = 1, play as russia

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Every fucking turn. Every single fucking turn this little faggot just sits there and gives me this stupid deal.

>>158917472
you fucking suck at civ
what you should have said
>that achievement means nothing, the game is too easy

>>158916785
And aesthetic ones like Swolegamesh. My husbando in a non-gay way.

>>158917472
>the tall/wide nomenclature has been around a lot longer than civ 5
It literally has not.

>>158917559
kek

>>158917584
spotted the new guy

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>>158916507
This is from my deity run. Got very lucky though, Rome was sending a settler right to where I wanted to settle...and I had a warrior close. Heidelberg was my second city.

Didn't really understand how amenities worked or that war exhaustion was a thing. But I got tired of expanding at some point and never actually finished the game.

But usually I play on Emperor.

>>158917525
Gib me da aegis :D

>>158916968
I think it's a known bug for certain namelists.

Speaking of namelists, I desperately need the ability to edit them in-game. It's fucking terrible when I spend all this time giving my fleets cool names, then I have to meld them together into a deathball for some reason, and when I split them back up again they're all called "Nth Extrasolar Fleet".
AND ANOTHER THING. Admirals are bugged. When I dplit a fleet into two, half the time the same admiral ends up cloned and leading both of them.

Is this the real thread?

also
>thread wars

>>158917472
>the tall/wide nomenclature has been around a lot longer than civ 5
Why?

>>158917642
Please, go ahead and find me a evidence of tall/wide meme existing before Civ 5, I'll wait.

>>158917803
I have better things to do mate.

>>158918012
Yeah I thought so.

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Hmm, this doesn't sound too promising. I've never gone this far in a single game before.
This isn't a good thing, is it?

>>158918050
http://www.cheatsguru.com/pc/sim_city_4/questions/285897/
Will you go away now?

>>158916507
I've been growing fond of King on Marathon. The slow crawl makes every war kinda neat.

tall/wide was something people talked about in civ 4 as well but not to a huge extent (as in, people didn't have tall v wide playstyles)

>>158918175
>http://www.cheatsguru.com/pc/sim_city_4/questions/285897/
>sim_city_4
Oh how embarrassing

>>158918102
Within days of clicking this event, fucking everybody starts opening their borders for me, even those circular ascended empire guys.
fug?

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>>158910082
>>158904660
I finally remember where I recognize this guy from

>>158918102
>>158918414
PREPARE YOUR ANUS

Is continents too easy to predict, or is Fractal too random?

>>158918262
Jesus christ how can you finish a game on Marathon? I can barely make it to the modern era on Epic before I'm bored out of my fucking skull (and usually pissed off with the retard-tier production cost scaling)

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What the FUCK is this BULLSHIT?

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[NERVOUS LAUGHTER INTENSIFIES]

Dunno what to expect, so I'm racing towards hitting my fleet cap just in case.

>>158918968
Bye.

Civ6 better than Civ4? I didn't buy Civ5 because it was too barebones, and i didnt buy Beyond Earth either because of bad reviews.

Have they actually made a good game this time?

>>158918968
friends :)

>>158919154
Game's good. AI, UI and balance are shit. Wait for patches/mods.

>>158918968
HAK HAK HAK

>>158905737
>>158911927
Another bump.

>>158918950
Dude just build more slingers lmao

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Okay, so it looks like it's going to happen a pretty decent distance away from my borders, hopefully that means I can safely ignore it. That being said, I'm allied with the pink Dabulan Sovereign Suns so I might be pulled into what ever this is anyway?

Regardless, It looks like the Kithri Sovereignty is about to be BTFO.

>>158919154
Civ 6 is a good game but the AI is possibly the worst I've ever seen in a strategy game and it needs a lot of number tweaking.
I already like it a lot more than 5 but I wouldn't say it's even better than that yet. Can't wait to see how it is after 6-12 months of patching, though.

>>158919385
Well the bugs are... bugged at the moment. Half the time they just sit there and do literally nothing forever.
So it might be that no-one has any reason yo worry.

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Kay

>>158918968
[muffled HAK HAK HAK in the distance]

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You're in the club and this system slaps your girlfriend's ass.
By the way, your race are intelligent natural engineer fanatic materialists and it's only 30 minutes into the game.

What do?

>>158919381
No all you need to stop that is 2 warriors. No slingers required.

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fug

>>158919909
How.
Only thing I've ever seen go near that direction is a ruined ringworld.
Show system map.

>>158920038
I mean, it's probably just a couple lucky anomalies and 3 rocks

>>158920038
Circuits in the dust anomaly gives +9 engineering on an asteroid, the rest was just hilariously lucky rolls I guess.

>>158919909
Holy fuck that's the motherload.

>>158919909
Damn. Gotta tech fast I guess.

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>>158919992
Have your communications been disrupted?

How to compete on immortal guys? I won my first civ6 game on emperor pretty easily but now trying with immortal one ai has mech. Infantry when I get musketmen on two games in a row. I don't get it, am I forced to go domination every game if I wanna keep up?

>>158920175
You have essencially 3 choices.
1)Superior Simcity
2)ICS
3)War
To win on immortal/diety you have to pick 2 of them.

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>this start as Germany

muh dick

>>158920982
>all those hammers
I'm getting horny and it's not even my game.

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So after getting an active scanner link with my ally, It looks like there is about ~150k total fleet power with about a dozen colony ships.
This can't be good. If I ignore this, will they grow out of control or what? Fuck.

>>158921046
they look like cogs to me

>>158921272
>>158921046
anyone who doesn't call it production is degenerate

>>158921327

chill out mr language police we're just trying to play some civ here fuck.

>>158921245
You can ignore it, but they will find their way to your borders at some point, then it becomes your problem.

Start upgrading your fleets with PD and Strike Craft, and you might have a chance.

>>158911986
TERRAFORMING WHEN

>>158921327
>production
>not shields
Shiggy diggy doo

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>So bored of 6 i'm just going random now
>probably get Congo
I almost want to play with /vg/
almost

>>158921272
They're just oddly-shaped hammers.

>Click 'no clustered starts.'
>Get surrounded anyway.

WELL THAT'S JUST SWELL.

>>158922235
Just eat your way out.

>>158922235
It's "random" :-)

From the first stirrings of life beneath water...

>>158922448
I am fond of pigs.

>>158922448
(Denounces You).

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>>158922448
Alt
Fucking
Tab

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>>158922448
And dare I say... Empire.

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>>158921957
>mild interest intensifies

A man on the back of a coal miners wife is physically bigger

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I'm glad I have all the information I need to improve my gameplay.

>>158922709
vICky is so fuckkighn cute I want her to be my coy gf who's actually not so confident as she pretends and who loevs me

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>these AI
Oh well looks like him and Spain will be dead soon enough

>>158922837
Spies, Diplomacy, Trade Routes, etc.

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Why is this game so boring

Do farms get bonuses for being built next to a river?

>>158922737
Isn't that ability to rush wonders useless because you can just chop some trees for better effect?

>>158923509
depends
you have to spend turns moving to forests
you also might want to leave some forests up if you have flat land, for lumber mill hammers

>>158923493
You're not playing on Online speed

>>158923509
The effect is significantly better than chopping forests, from my experience.

idea: get rid of builders, make tile improvements directly from the city production menu.

>>158923790
Like call to power?

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>>>>>spare resources

>>158923790
idea: make builders not disappear after 3 builds

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Guys, I want to pirate Stellaris to try it out.

I see on TPB there's the Codex release and a patch for 1.31 of Codex's release, but also a repack by a guy named xatab that claims to be based on Codex's release and that is already upgraded to 1.31, but it has no comments on the upload and the guy isn't a VIP nor does he have the Trusted icon

Anyone here downloaded that version? Or did you use CODEX's? Or did you pirate it from somewhere else? (If so, where?

>>158923893
madman

>>158923893
but what would they do once they're out of builds?

>>158923790
or do things like
>pyramids increase builder charges by more than 1, making it worth building
>make tile improvements worth getting more often
or just increase charges to 5 or something

>>158923967
I'm on the codex 1.3 version, it works flawlessly. I have seen that guys 1.3.1 release, but I didn't want to download another 1.7GB just for a hotfix (I'm on a capped internet plan, kill me). So I'm just waiting for single hotfix codex release, that's if it ever happens.

I'm getting sick of seeing arctic tiles on all my alpine planets too.

>>158923967
I have stellaris fitgirl repack 1.2.0 + 4dlc - it's the codex version

Stellaris Heinlein 1.3 + Leviathans DLC - it's the 3DM version but works with codex
https://mirrorace.com/m/7qh

waiting on the 1.3.1 hotfix for codex. I don't trust that xatab guy because no skull

>>158924093
base charges of at least 5 for sure. 3 is way way too few

>>158923967
I tried the codex version but it was missing some .dlls for some reason so didn't work. Then I discovered you can just pirate paradox DLC and copied the DLC out of the codex install and it worked fine with my legit copy. Presumably if you can get the .dlls it'll work fine. Hell maybe my install just bugged out.

>>158913856
Anyone?

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>>158923967
>Stellaris v1.3.1 + 6 DLC RePack by xatab
>Disable your anti-virus/windows defender before install to prevent errors or file deleting

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My current ruler has just out lived his second heir, holy fuck. Any day now, some young 19 year old punk is going to be crowned emperor of the third most powerful empire in the galaxy.

Some kids get all the luck.

what if builders WERE tile improvements
like how workboats worked in 5, except you could uproot them and place them somewhere else if you wanted

>>158920982
>needing a start as germany
just reroll till you get tundra then win

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What a fascinating and though-provoking quote

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>>158925243
I'll admit some are cute, but most are trash yes

>>158925243
This made me crack up when I heard it. Part of it was disbelief that it's just a Terminator quote.

>playing Stellaris to try the new stuff
>war in heaven starts
>ultimatums are sent out, join us or suffer
>my comfy galactic north west federation crumbles as empires join the two powers
>I join the nearby materialists
>my closest ally and federation co-founder joins the spiritualists
I will legitimately feel upset if I end up having to fight them. We built up so much together, it shouldn't have to end like this.

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What the actual fuck is this?

>>158925637
A Dimensional Horror

>>158925637
wiz trying to fix game's lack of atmosphere by staffing more lame tropes into it

>>158925637
Dimensional Horror Dimensional Horror Dimensional Horror (Hostile)

>>158925637
it says right there
can't you read?

>>158925637
Realistically speaking, a creature like that would be unable to exist to physics.

>>158904980
I started recording every time he appears on screen for more webms and gifs lad

>>158925960
explain

>>158925960
Realistically speaking giant space monsters don't randomly pop up out of giant portals to other planes of existence so I don't see your point.

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The only time I get a friend who doesn't betray me through the ages and I'm on a Conquest run.
I'm so sorry, Catherine.

>>158926093
If it's dense enough to interact with solid objects it would be crushed by it's own gravity the moment any significant portion of it entered our reality from what ever hellhole spawned it.>>158926108
>>158926108
>giant space monsters don't randomly pop up out of giant portals
Perhaps it would be better not to include them in the games about managing an interstellar empire then?

>>158926272
If you're going to play Stellaris you have to drop logic and knowledge lad. That's why I stopped after playing it for a few hours, even crises don't make any sense

>>158926128
>that time you wanted to go to space and the only person who didn't hate your guts was Monty.

>>158926272
...what?
Why would it be crushed by its own gravity? One would assume that if such a gigantic being existed, it would have some sort of outward force like a star's nuclear fusion reactions to counteract the gravitational force. Or just a really stronk hide/surface

I am fond of gravity.

>>158926556
no wifi tho

>>158926556
There's less gravity on the top of kilimanjaro so there's no wifi

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This bug invasion has gone on long enough, it's time to deal with them once and for all.
Call the cops, I don't give a fuck

>>158926272
The game had magic psionics, extradimensional invaders, tyranids and other such nonsensical soft scifi since it's inception.

Perhaps you should stop pretending the game is something it isn't?

>>158925189
how about if builders had unlimited charges, but it took a few turns to build each improvement

>>158926374
I mean.. yes, but there is suspension of disbelief, I can be okay whit them mucking up some shit. But this isn't unscientific, this is stoopid.

>>158926461
I honestly don't want to go into measuring contest when all we have to measure is a picture. In short, energy output reqired to run such a system exceeds that of a star, that's not sustainable, even if it ate stars for breakfast. nevermind the fact that that critter has appendages for walking/climbing that would require surface of ludicrous size while it's mouth can't possibly serve any practical purpose with all of the above in mind.

>>158926837
>Perhaps you should stop pretending the game is something it isn't?
As I said, there is plenty stuff that can be overlooked under suspension of disbelief or plain old Rule of Cool. A literal giant bug crawling out of a hole in space/time is so far beyond that margin that it only makes sense as easter egg.

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Transmissions lost.

Game does so shit job at letting you know a barbarian encampment spawned, or there are enemies that your city can shoot. To be honest I don't think the game even lets you know these, or I might have missed them dunno

Guys, help!

Now that terraforming isn't a pain in the ass, I'm having trouble NOT waiting until it's researched to colonize yellow planets!

>>158927526
Terraform baby!
I straight up don't colonise unless the planet is the same type as my home world. I'm sitting on about 35 alpine planets in my current game, it's great.

>>158927064
nah that would be dumb

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>>158927526
I will colonize your mom ass

>Japan leader doesn't commit sudoku when he gets defeated

weak

>>158927526
Only if it has 25 tiles and more than 50% habitability, and perhaps some kind of planet modifier.

>>158927648
>committing suicide is somehow a reflection of honor in Japan
Ridiculously stoopid.

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Should I form a federation with an Awakened Ascended Empire, whom is expanding at an alarming rate on the other side of the galaxy?

Will they help me fight off the scourge bugs?