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Previously thread: >>158841812
Satanscum are the worst.
I want to decapitate that bird and mount its head on my wall as a trophy!
Can someone explain what they were thinking to me with Beast Dominator
>Has higher stats than its cost should have (+)
>Hurts you (-)
>Nerfs itself (-)
how has this not gotten buffed yet
Third for rubbing cunnies
Out of curiosity, do I have a decent start to any sort of deck here and is there anything that I'm fine to liquefy?
Who is voicing these tits? Taneda Risa?
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>>158863309
I'd like to rub the inside of Luna's cunny with my dick if you catch my drift.
>>158863493
I don't get it
>>158863296
They were thinking vengeance would be better than it was and she'd make a great top-end for an aggressive vengeance deck.
Sadly vengeance sucks because there's a lot of burst. She's still alright though, a 5pp 6/6 is still a big threat that needs to be dealt with, especially if you evolve her, and she'll generally die before she loses too much attack. Even if the downside procs once she's still overstatted for her cost.
Come one, come all!
>>158863354
You could proabably work towards Elana Haven.
Vial Deathmist Dragon and Homecoming for sure.
>>158863354
A lot of useful things but too spread.
You can go Haven or sword.btw you have a good fucking roll
I want to bounce Tia up and down on my dick!
Anyone doing well in ranked with d-shift? I've been winning most of my games but fuck sometimes I get jack shit to do in the late game, like a d-shift and destroyer but no lethal and they just recover after
>make new account
>21 standard pack tickets
>every reroll after
>15 standard pack tickets
Why? Aren't you supposed to get 20?
>>158863380
I KNEW THERE IT WAS A SHADE LURKING HERE ALL THIS TIMEnow what?
>>158863296
Bloody Mary is an indirect buff. Same with Juggernaught.
>this is take two
not even here I'm safe from this faggorty
>>158863645
You get 6 for linking an account to steam
Which one should I pick?
New guy here
I'm planning on making a shadowcraft deck
Are there any of these legendaries I can liquefy?
>>158863072
>That's irrelevant though.
But it isn't. You should stop back pedaling and changing definitions to suit your delusions.
>"The metagame is the mix of different decks that players bring onto the ladder, that you can expect to see. If you know what decks players are bringing, your deck can be especially good against 'the meta'." - Ben Brode.
The simple reality is that aggro overwhelmingly makes up the majority of ladder players with a healthy dosage of tempo forest supplementing it.
If you're going to keep making up definitions, then we can just end this discussion here since you're not worth my time.
>>158863530
But how would vengeance be evaluated to be better than it was even in a world where you can't easily burst people down from 10?
Aside from a handful of cards with drain it's largely worse than Dragoncraft's unique effect because at least that's applied to stuff on the field retroactively at times
>>158863678
If you manage to get Bloody Mary out at the same time as either of those cards you already won the game anyway, or are playing really bad opponents.
>>158863737
someone should do a liquefy tierlist
Was rerolling for some sword waifu legends but got these. Can I do anything good with this? Specifically with the loli.
>Queen Medb
>You can't play followers while this follower is in play.
Why would you ever use this?
>>158863710
Thanks.
I guess people don't usually do that while rerolling?
>>158863734
Oliviaaaaaaa
Midnight haunt will often be a dead draw
>>158863737
Flutes, Fairy Princess (gimmick deck with Rose Queen), Pascale (Earth Rite is not that strong currently). Fafnir might be worth keeping when Ramp Dragon comes back eventually
Shadowrerolling anon here
>New roll
>Animated Cerberus and Mordecai in the first run
>No other legendary cards in the rest of the normals
>No legendary in the first 10 of Darkness Evolved
>Second 10 gets me a Lord of Flies and Dark Angel Olivia
>Mostly meh golds
Fucking why, any other time I've been getting like 7 legendary but then they're all rune and dragon, now that I'm actually getting any Shadow or Blood it'll be like 2-3 max.
>>158863882
Cerberus, Pascale, Olivia, Gabriel and Alexander are good although not necessarily the top-tier legos of their decks
Dragonsong Flute is a meme
Redditfane is garbage
>mfw I buy Vania the moment I earn 500 gold
No regrets.Now to unlock Selwyn the husbando
Do I go for the Tyrant meme?
>>158862338
Annoying because I play a bunch of Tempo Elf and whenever I get matched up with Elana Haven, every turn becomes a matter of needing to destroy any followers they have before they get super buffed by Elana in case I cant burst them down with roaches
Now I almost always win against them because eventually they run out of steam, but its still annoying
>>158862346
I would try DShift or even Seraph but I dont have the legendaries needed so RIP, at least for DShift I am missing two Merlins
>>158863882
Alexander isn't a loli, but he's useful in sword control.
>>158863986
Alright, anything in these gold?
Newfag here, considering we get a ton of arena tickets from story mode, I'm assuming I should spend all of my gold on standard packs, right?
>>158863934
because you only play spells besides the overstatted queen
>>158863694
Shit happened to me too. The faggot had Urd, Aria, Moon Bunny, Garuda, and Divine Birdsong. I wanted to kill someone.
>>158863749
And in AA0, the meta is a mix of decks such as Storm Haven, Elana Haven, Control Sword, Midrange Sword, Tempo Forest, PtP Forest, Aggro Bats, and Spellboost Rune, yes. The meta is not all Storm Haven all the time.
Even if it were mostly Storm Haven, then people would start playing Elana Haven a ton to counter it, turning the meta into a mix of Storm and Elana. And then there would be a lot of Elana running around, so its counters, Seraph Haven and Spellboost would become popular. And since Tempo Forest is popular, people play Control Sword, which is strong against it. Thus, you have a meta with a pretty diverse amount of decks.
Seriously friend, the meta is not all aggro.
Is there a more INSTA-WIN arena card than Mord?
>>158864159
>passing on cerb
>phantom dragon can actually do work in arena
no
>>158864041
My definition of the 'meta' is here >>158863749.
You have failed to address that and are trying to claim that tournament meta = game meta.
Once more: if you insist on making up definitions and have no rebuttal, then we are done. Don't expect another (You).
>>158864123
>Using generic vampire loli over Swole Alucard
>>158864080
>Redditfane
What is this stupid sounding meme about
>>158863749
people pick storm haven cause it's cheap, not cause they're sitting on a ton of vials have a choice and decided to pick storm haven out of their 9 viable decks
>>158863934
She's overstatted for her cost, and rune is less likely to cast followers anyway. I don't personally run her, but she's decent in budget rune decks.
>>158864189
If you want to keep playing arena for a bit even after using up all your tickets I suggest you hold some gold on you at all times. If you don't give a fuck about arena I'd blow everything on packs.
posted in last thread.
Do i stick with it lads? i like those dragon legends
>>158863934
In theory: because she is an overstatted body for her cost
In reality: you don't.
>>158864217
Olivia.
Mordecai has counters, especially now with Odin, who's a pretty decent pick. Olivia does not, except another Olivia.
Also Seraph if you can pull it off since it is literally an instant win.
>>158864297
>generic vampire loli is somehow worse than generic vampire dude
at least the former is good fap material.
>>158863602
What kind of deck is elana haven?
And did they nerf Homecoming or something? Why did I get 800 from it?
>>158863625
I'm not sure how I feel about sword, I guess it depends what kind of deck I can go with it.
Already have aggroblood, so I'm more looking for something to work towards that isn't dragon as it's the only set I've really written off as something I'm not into so far.
>>158864201
>Entire post is anecdotal evidence from a supposed AA player insisting he knows what the meta is
Anon, you're trying to argue against statistics in that image I posted.
We're done here. Have a nice day~Control Royal is like the 13th most played deck by the way
>>158864172
>>158864080
Thanks anons. Was only going to stop rerolling if anything specific stood out as useful, back to grinding sword waifus.
>>158863804
This would be great
So how do I actually do the leapdroid to steam account link stuff? When I hit account link it just gives me options for google play and facbok, is it device link or something?
>>158864494
>swole alucard with metal as fuck metal arm
>generic
>>158864579
Homecoming was nerfed from 5 mana to 7
>>158864192
>>158864342
It would make more sense if she had an earth rite that give her ward.
>>158864185
Keep green, consider yellow, red are not played in current meta.
>>158864314
Meming about his flavor text sounding like an edgy atheist rant probably
>can't even figure out how to get cards
I'm actually a braindead mongoloid
>>158864862
Just a bit!
>>158864293
your "definition" will always be the cheapest deck, it's not a good way to define metagame when people are asking what decks they can expect to play and climb with, which is how this entire conversation started in the first place.
>>158864607
that wasn't me, I dunno if he's AA or not but alright.
>>158864762
Feels bad knowing that I have an animated Grand Archer Selwyn and cant bear to dust him
Same goes with my animated Fairy Princess
>>158864862
home - crate - shop - buy packs
>>158864351
Kind of all over the place. If that doesn't bother you, run seraph.
Do they ever buff cards in this game? This card seems pretty underwhelming for a 9cost dragon.
when the fuck is the elanas nerf
>>158864954
it's much more than a bit
do i need to reroll if i plan on wasting money on this anyway?
>>158864607
Okay, I'll use Shadow Record then.
The most played deck is Storm Haven, is aggro. The next 3 most played decks, PtP, Tempo, and Spellboost, are not aggro. Those decks combined are played more than Storm Haven overall.
I think you're confused about the fact that the most popular deck does not completely define the meta.
It's also worth noting that in AA0, some aggro decks like Banner Royal start to fall off. Also, Control Sword is not played much because it is fucking expensive as hell so you don't see it until the high ranks, where it is played to counteract Forestcraft.
The balance of this game is kinda fucked up
All the classes that are designed to be control/ramp are best played aggro with you ignoring their gimmick.
It's fun but there's next to no decision making in some of the strongest decks I can play
>>158864862
click shop, buy crystals with money, spend crystals on packs, open packs, get cards
Just try a bit more and you'll succeed, crystals is like Disneyland money.
>>158864961
>your "definition"
Which was why Midrange Royal/PTP were the most played decks pre-DE.
:)
>>158865037
yes
Olivia won some of my game before, but never tried Satan. Which is better if I'm still alive lategame
>>158865006
No, they don't
That's not even the shittiest legendary in the game. That's probably something in bloodcraft
Cygames is too afraid to nerf or buff anything because of whales, even in vanilla they barely touched PtP
They're content to just wait 3 months to try and not fuck the game up again even though Darkness Evolved just made the game even shittier and turned everything into aggro
>>158864994
I thought you just got packs to open automatically after the tutorial or something
I've never played one of these card games before
thanks for spoonfeeding my autistic self
>>158865050
And the next decks are aggro blood and banner sword.
>>158864579
Elena Haven revolves around Elena's Prayer. Kind of a value control deck around healing.
>>158864972
I'm the type to not vial animated as well, up to you.
>>158865113
you realize you can build a budget midrange royal with just sage commander and other common cards right? That's what most of ladder was playing, not the one decked out with every gold and leggo.
>>158865203
And then it's Elana Haven.
Is there a way to destroy amulets?
>>158865150
Every time I've seen Prince of Darkness win a game is when literally any big dude would have done the same and the vast majority of time I see him played in arena, the person who played it loses. Olivia has almost always been a win in my experience.
>>158865150
Polyphonic Roar is actually awful, though. I would recommend left.
>get 3 evo points if you go first
bam fixed
>>158865274
Which is an aggro counter deck.
>>158865318
yes but it's not worth running execution to do it
Liquefy
Fairy Princess
Alexander
Sun Oracle Pascale
Mythril Golem
Dragonsong Flute
Beast Dominator
Queen Vampire
>>158865318
Execution and Odin
>Game makes me want to bounce elves up and down
>Find a top grade elf doujin with full color and great art
Bases Nippon
>>158865318
Runecraft has a specific "banish amulet" card. Otherwise, there's Execution and Odin and a few others. Unless you mean destroy your OWN amulets, in which case, Skullfane will do the job.
>>158865387
>execution
most amulets worth playing are last word
>>158865153
>ptp
>midrange forest
>midrange sword
>dshift
>elana
bloodcucks, everyone.
>>158865073
The funny thing is, it's still more balanced and more rewarding toward control than most other card games out there.
>>158865403
You can safely liquefy any bloodcraft legendary that isn't bloody mary
they're all garbage
>>158865363
Because Storm Haven is the most popular deck.
You know what, whatever man. If you want to wrongly think it's a super aggro meta in AA, that's fine. The rest of us, meanwhile, will continue to be annoyed because everyone plays fucking forestcraft in AA.
>>158865358
I think one fewer card draw when going second is a better fix.
>>158865403
>Alexander
Played in Control Sword
>Queen Vampire
Are you that anon that keeps shitting on her?
Reasoning?
>>158865494
you cant make a post like this without a link, anon
>>158865527
I run it as a one of out to Elana, PTP, and Banner in some aggro decks. Its not bad if you have the slots.
>>158865006
I'm running 3 fafnirs and they're doing work right now in ladder. (reached B2 right now)
If you ramp properly you can get rid of otohime's, fairies no problem and they have to remove a 10 hp monster.
Holy fucking shit runecraft sucks against everything. I need one win for a daily and am 0-6. Holy fuck.
>>158865556
>Aggro deck is the most popular one
>The strongest deck is the one that can both aggro and control at the same time.
>>158865546
it's also a lot more boring than most card games
It's both unbalanced and shit because everyone runs the same fucking decks from D0 to the As
>>158865591
She isn't good in Aggro Blood and that's the only Blood deck worth playing currently
>>158865546
Yeah it is
It's miles fairer to players than the ones I've played but it's still a shame that it's just very aggro heavy in places where it shouldn't be.
>>158865403
DO NOT LISTEN TO RETARDED ANONS AND LIQUIFY QUEEN VAMPIRE HOLY FUCK.
You can safely liquify Mythril Golem, Beast Dominator, and Dragonsong Flute. Probably Fiary Princess too.
Pascale may be good one day.
>>158865604
https://exhentai.org/g/984118/90adb08f07/?p=4
You're right I'm sorry. Now a bunch of people are gonna ask about that sad endangered animal.
>>158865708
I had 2 of her in my deck playing to AA2, she's not amazing, but not instant vial tier.
And Alexander?
>>158865739
When a deck like Elanas exist there's no way to play a way that isn't aggro
If the game goes beyond turn 6 you already lost against Havencraft
>>158865797
None of the top blood decks use Queen Vampire, she is trash
>>158865671
Runecraft has the worst default deck by a mile
If you post your code and ask someone will play you and autoconcede
"This data can only be linked to one PC account, and accounts can't be unlinked."
So wait, if I put my dumb leapdroid roll I currently have on my steam account, am I just stuck with it or can I enter a new one possibly later and it just overwrites that?
>>158865591
I'm thinking in vial my 2 animated queen vampire.
I would still have 2 useless queen vampires
>>158865802
Thanks here something good for you http://gelbooru.com//images/76/e3/76e3ae3960166a2a6bd329d8ce9f03d3.webm
>>158865671
And people say its the solitaire, no chance to win against deck.
>>158865802
godbless anon
>>158865867
She isn't even close to trash, she's really good.
Just because a card isn't seeing much play right now doesn't mean it's trash. If Blood ever has a viable non-aggro deck Queen Vampire will be in it 100%. Hell, even if you build a bat deck that's a bit slower you top it off with Queens, she's still a 100% viable card. This is different from a card like, say, Mythril Golem, that will just never see play no matter what happens.
>>158864701
Guess I should watch out for nerfed cards then.
>>158865224
>Kind of a value control deck around healing.
That's interesting.
Wonder how much it'd cost for me to fill it out.
>>158865867
>elana
>good against control
they're literally playing vanilla followers that do nothing if you're not a deck trying to race them. The whole reason they started teching in seraph is to deal with other control, and it's still not a good matchup for them when they can't cycle the combo as effectively as an actual seraph deck.
>>158865926
It's definitely the least interactive deck. Good Runecraft decks just play a bunch of cantrips and spells until the get two Dshifts and fat minions. Then they just win.
If they were top tier, people would be complaining about them a LOT more than they are now.
>>158866073
>>158865850
I'm not the anon who made the list, just pointing out that Queen Vampire specifically is not worth keeping for anything right now
If you can liquefy a queen vampire to get a bloody mary I'd do it instantly
>>158866073
She won't be good for 3-4 months at minimum. She is shit for the forseeable future. By the time she's good you could've fucking gotten enough vials to make another one
I downloaded LeapDroid, and got the game downloaded, but something dawned on me;
Can I play on steam against a friend on Mobile? Or does it have to be the same platform?
>>158865692
In other games we call thattempo
>>158866073
>6 4/4
>see a play
>kek
>>158866190
You can.
>>158865708
>it's a lot more boring than most card games
Well, that's like, your opinion, man.
>It's both unbalanced and shit because everyone runs the same fucking decks from D0 to the As
This happens in literally every card game there is. People will always netdeck whatever the strongest shit is due to faggotry.
>>158866240
Hell yes then.
How does one do it? I want to get my friend into this, but he's never got time to do it on Steam.
What's the easiest class for someone new to these kinds of games?
Thank god you can skip tutorial. How long would it take me to get 3 fortes in one reroll?
>>158865867
>Two opinions this awful in one post
Elana is fucking horrible against control. Any deck with decent removal and board clears completely shits all over it.
Vampire Queen is a great card, and will be a staple in non-aggressive Blood decks to come. Even now she's perfectly playable, to the point where she can win you games thanks to clogging the board with wards.
What rank are you, C?
>>158865708
>cheap S tier deck while every other S tier cost an arm and a leg to compete or even be playable
gee, I wonder why everyone runs the same deck.
>>158866345
It would be pretty rough. You're better off just liquefying shit for them.
How the fuck do you play shadowcraft?
>>158866345
very long, try to gun for two at most
Yo since everyone keeps talking about aggro
What are the best alternatives, who is the best at midrange/combo/ramp?
And are any of them cheap
>>158865923
You're the retard that keeps shitting on her, fuck off.
https://rage-esports.jp/news/rage%E3%80%80vol3-grand-finals%E5%87%BA%E5%A0%B4%E8%80%858%E5%90%8D%E3%81%AE%E4%BA%88%E9%81%B8%E5%A4%A7%E4%BC%9A%E4%BD%BF%E7%94%A8%E3%83%87%E3%83%83%E3%82%AD%E5%85%AC%E9%96%8B%EF%BC%88%E3%83%87
ま選手's list runs THREE (3) of her.
>>158866338
Swordcraft and Havencraft. Gives you the kind of basic understanding you'll need in order to start building decks, and determine what decks/cards/classes are good.
>>158866347
>Vampire Queen is a great card, and will be a staple in non-aggressive Blood decks to come
Yeah how did that work out for you in Darkness Evolved retard
You are literally saying she is worth keeping for a deck type that doesn't exist viably and might not ever exist viable
god damn you are fucking delusional
Isn't it interesting that these threads got extremely aggressive, insulting and cancerous after the Steam release? It really makes you think...
>>158866457
best at midrange is forest
best at control is a tossup between control sword and elana, depends on what you want to beat really (control sword beats midrange elf, elana beats storm haven)
best combo is ptp. or if you don't count that, dshift.
>>158866338
>>158866215
>6 mana 6/6 total worth of stats with two chump blockers that turns all other bats into chump blockers too.
She's great.
Any bloodcraft tips?
Brand new player (f2p) and working with what I have right now.
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/6?hash=1.6.67UiU.63dOg.63dOg.63dOg.67RXW.67WPs.67WPs.5_pzw.5_pzw.5_pzw.5_p-4.5_p-4.5_p-4.5_pFM.5_pFM.5_pFM.63dQ4.63dQ4.5_pFg.5_pFg.5_pFg.63dPI.5_p-E.5_p-E.61NLm.61NLm.67RXq.67RXq.67RXq.63i_Q.5_pFW.5_pFW.5_pFW.5_sQA.5_sQA.5_sQA.5_rhI.63fqw.63fqw.63fqw
>>158866345
Don't worry, anon, pic related happened to me. What are the odds of it happening to Forte?
Reminder only horn teenagers prefer hearthstone with loltits.
>>158866440
>>158866421
Alright. Guess I'll aim 2. Thanks sempai
how do i convince my gf to dress up like this for me
So I just got another Merlin and 2 Fire chains and I'm having an issue of what to get rid of. I'm thinking of the Angelic Barrages and a Kaledoscope Glow.
>>158866327
When you make a private room there's an ID he has to type in to join. I think inviting friends in-game also works.
>>158866149
DONT LET IT GET TO YOU
DONT LET IT GET TO YOU
DONT LET IT GET TO YOU
that shit tilts people so hard
>>158866663
It probably's gonna involve several concussions for her.
>>158864020
You have start for cshadow at least.
>>158866705
That's pretty cool how this works like that. Now I just gotta convince him to do the rerolling until he gets good legendaries.
Thanks for clearing it up for me.
>>158866083
It's pretty cheap really only requiring 3 Elena's and 3 Themis's Decree as expensive cards. A hybrid version including Seraph has started to show up which makes it more expensive though.
WHY THE FUCK CYGAMES THINK GOLD IS 1 TO 1 EQUIVALENT TO VIALS?!
DON'T GIVE ME 20 FUCKING VIALS AND 120 GOLD INSTEAD OF 140 FUCKING GOLD FOR MORE 4 WIN T2 ROUNDS
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>158866345
I've done about 90 rerolls and I haven't seen even 2 fortes in my packs, 3 of the same has been like maybe around 20-30 rerolls or and usually are one of the shit ones, getting them for the card you want is not viable I'd say.
Just take animated legos as a joker card which you can use to turn another shitty lego into any card you want.
Blood needs an amulet where there health cannot go below 10 for 2 turns. (If its below ten already it cannot go lower)
vengeance is suddenly a lot better and it can be countered if it becomes problematic with simple amulet removal.
The question is what mana cost should such an amulet be?
Is Pascale actually good or is it just a meme because dick?
>>158866581
Liquefy all your alucards and make more bat cards
>>158866663
Find a picture of an adult Luna.
Posted this at the end of a dead thread by mistake. Reposting:
I already built a Seraph deck because I rolled 3 of them.
What else could I do with all this? I don't know much about other classes.
>>158866663
She has kind of a renaissance garb, so convince her to basically dress up as a purple colonial catgirl, and that should be close enough.
Though if you're a filthy weeb and she knows it, it might not even be that hard.
>>158866467
You know you can also run her in aggro bats too for some extra staying power/board presence? I've played a more midrangey version of aggro bat in AA0 with some success, much of which is thanks to her. I stopped playing it since everyone was running angelic barrage, but other than that it performed pretty well. The problem is not her, it's just that BLood is weak: if you intend to play Blood at all, you should 100% never disenchant her.
Have you ever even played with the card yourself, or are you just spouting off opinions based on popular aggro bat netdecks? I'd assume the latter since you're most likely a rank C shitter considering your opinion on Elana as well.
It's times like this when I really want to shill out.
>>158866854
Just fucking turn Beast Dominator into a card that allows you to use vengeance effects as long as she's alive on the field
Jesus fucking christ it's not hard
>>158866906
>3 seraphs
LUCKY CUNT
>>158867028
This isn't all a first roll. My first roll just had 3 seraphs.
>>158867004
I actually don't understand how anyone ever ends up at this point.
Does cygames ever buff cards? Is it wise to keep shit cards in case they get buffed?
>>158866972
Yes, I have used Queen Vampire before.
I started winning a lot fucking more when I cut her for more aggro cards
>>158866338
Haven if you have the golds or sword if you want just one deck
>>158866460
I doubt he use her in a efficient way she is just a stall useless t6 card
>>158866579
>wasting 1evo point in a 4/4 to die to any removal
>>158866581
remove serpent charmer,crazed executioner,succubus,barbaric demon,crimson purge,goblinmount,soul navigator,diabolic drain,abyss beast and lucard
add:ambling wrath cursebrand vampire,blood pact ,summon bloodkin,vampiric fortress,killer devil,midnight vampire,minisoul devil,night horde.
>>158866906
Another haven deck like elana one
>>158866691
I wouldn't remove Kaleidoscopic Glow as long as Haven is such a popular class. You can bounce the low cost amulets with it.
2 Fiery Embraces and 2 Fire Chains would be a bit much I think. You're also reducing the chance of getting Dimension Shift with Merlin the more Spell Boost spells you have.
>>158867180
>doubt he use her in a efficient way
>Top 8 winner's bracket player in 1024 player tournament
Are you fucking retarded?
Just starting, should I reroll? I've tried to look around and what I got seems decent but I'm having a hard time telling.
Need a private win, 61180
Come by and concede or if you want to play it out just concede on the last turn.
>>158867287
>aggro bat win at t5
See the problem here
If I don't have Cerberus should I take Dance of Death x3, or DoD x2 and 1 Charon?
>>158866424
Aggro or control.
Does banner sword fall off in A B or Master rank?
I am starting to feel gross playing this deck in C3. When it works, which is usually, I'm basically just playing solitaire.
>>158864494
>Swole vampire
>Generic
Name 10 (20) buff as fuck vampires
>>158866859
Good, the double attack is very good but it gives your opponent a turn to prepare for upcoming beat down. In the first place it ain't easy to fill a board with followers ready to be buffed either.The spell Juno's Laboratoy can do that but by that point you might be on your way to victory and Pascale is a win more card. I'd keep her, I prefer to use Earthrite Wirch over DShift
>>158867383
I played aggro bat to Master, I think the advice you post in general is terrible.
>>158867287
Just give up anon, there's too many people in this thread that think their personal experience is everything
>>158867439
Personally it has some consistency issues for me in B rank, makes me feel like making a Midrange or Control Sword instead
If it wins, it wins hard, but some decks shits on it hard
Going to buy the 5000 crystal set. What packs should I buy and how many?
>>158867180
>Wasting an evo point
What? Are you stupid? Queen Vampire is a 6pp card that gives you 6/6 worth of stats. If you evolve her or one of the bats you get 8/8 worth of stats
>>158867572
shadow or no balls
>start game
>two hours later half a tier 1 deck
>halfway finished with a second one
>all without spending a cent
It really isn't pay to win, truly impressive.
>>158866859
She works pretty well in the right deck, and she has a pretty decent statline for the cost so even without the effect she's a solid 5 drop.
>>158866859
pascale is good, earth rite just sucks.
she has typical stats for a 5 cost follower, 4/5 is standard. then you have an effect that doubles the attack and health value of anything on board, if you get it on even one golem she more than paid for her cost.
you dont see her cause earth rite is a shit deck with no wincon.
>>158867439
Banner starts falling of in A, and in AA0 and beyond it's barely played. It's not consistent enough and its bad match-ups start to get more widely played.
>>158867339
Keep this, build towards Storm Haven.
>>158866796
Huh, so I still need around another 2k vials not including what I might need in lower tier cards.
Not too terrible, since I imagine if I can scrape together the vials for one more of each I can at least get it functioning.
What's the point of the skeleton fighter?
Extremely cheap 2/2s with necromancy shadows?
>>158867287
>top 8
so in other words he didn't win
>>158867360
pls respond
61180
>>158866691
>>158867270
You could also reduce Summon Snow. Since you're using Summon Snow though you can try putting one Conjuring Force in if you have it, it's fun.
>>158867339
>Moon and 2 Garudas.
Storm Haven is your future.
>>158867798
>game with incredibly low skill ceiling that involves luck
>shocking that someone good was 'only' in the top 8
you dumb?
>>158867572
Just do the daily deal and you can double the cards value
>>158867510
>>158867549
nice argument
>>158867583
I would rather play a lot of more useful toosl of aggro bat and end the duel or just give up cause in t8 this would be a lose duel cause she was removed like nothing.
>>158867763
Also ghoul banket trigger, but nobody uses it. Spirit Cycle is used though
>>158867798
Ah, I see /dng/ scum really is here. Just stay in your rotting corpse of a general and stop infecting other places.
ISABERUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>158867798
its a fucking card game dude, the top placer isn't always the best player, if you give a shit at all about improving your deck you need to look at everyone who did decently.
What's the point of spending $80 for 5000 crystals if I can only spend 50 a day as to not waste crystals? Is just a way to force commit me to 100 days played by Cygames?
>non-stop reroll posts
>rank d0 winstreak posts
>kripp posters
the new hearthstone expansion cant come soon enough to end this nightmare
at least the discord is invite only
>>158867180
>Another haven deck like elana one
Elana seems to be pretty far away with all the legendary cards I'm missing. x2 Odin, Lucifer, Olivia. And the x3 Themis's Decree are the only cards missing from my Seraph deck, too.
I could probably get the Themis cards without too much trouble though.
I have two Erasmus cards already and LITERALLY FUCK ALL ELSE, FUCK from Runecraft
I should make the most useless deck ever
Why is Luna so CUTE.
>>158867904
>nice argument
>coming from you
Put your trip back on so I can filter your trash.
>>158867763
He's still alright for when you got no Skull Beast on turn 1, good drop if you want to fill out your curve, gives you a shadow when he dies. He's got low requirements, too. He's your best friend.
>>158867763
He's a 2/2 for 1, just jam 3 into aggro shadow and call it a day.
>>158868010
Consider it a login bonus.
>>158867716
>isbelle and her tid tids
LADS
>>158867803
Thank you whoever that britbong was.
>>158867549
>Despite being a 3x staple card in every slower Bloodcraft deck to ever exist and still run today in some aggro bat lists people try and argue Queen Vampire is shit
When will people realize just because a class is weak doesn't mean a card is bad?
People should be forced to post their rank when discussing a card.
>>158867904
Are you that retarded tripfag? Your shitty typing really gives you away you know.
>>158867917
Not even /dng/ is retarded enough to not understand the concept of tops.
The Queen Vampire discussion is definitely reminding me of a /dng/-tier argument though.
>>158868058
Play Earth and have fun bullying retards looking for quick wins.
>>158868126
Np, my freedom bro.
>>158868163
>In every slower bloodcraft deck to ever exist
You mean the ones that are tier 3 or lower?
yeah just the fucking card I want to keep around
How useful is this thing actually? Should I melt him if I have a few haven decks that don't use him?
>>158868050
Lad, Haven does not really need moons or these legos.
>>158868063
>>158868163
nice argument again, thanks for improving you point
>>158865904
Please respond.
>>158867916
>skeleton in control shadow
Wew.
>>158868272
>Lad, Haven does not really need moons or these legos.
Thanks Anon. I was just looking at the netdeck up.
I just built a purgatory forest deck. I'm sorry.
>>158868259
I believe he is used for taking your Elana's off the board when you need more space to drop more minions late game.
>>158868364
You can only link to your steam account ONCE. 'Ya fucked. You wanna get a good roll then link it.
>>158868259
he is the worst leggo in the game
even worse than soul dealer honestly
melt him
>>158868382
If you want Gilgamesh is a good tool to substitute moon
>seraph
Well it's self explanatory how seraph is necessary here
>new players STILL falling for the reroll meme
Is bloodcraft face/aggro viable? Tell me its secrets
>>158868259
I've got three of him, and fuck if I've found a good use for him.
I imagine he helps you explode your Storm amulets as a finisher, but I don't think that works out as well as fantasized.
>oh yeah man, Scholarly Witch is a fine budget replacement for Merlin
>get Merlins anyway
How can drawing two cards even compare to drawing a somewhat more specific two cards and triggering Spellboost once or twice?
>>158868578
vania and bat fortress. everything else is built off of that
THIS ONE'S FOR MY FAMILY
>>158868247
Let's see that rank anon. Throw in your bloodcraft level/ranked wins too.
>>158868578
It's really good for ladder and cheap since all the legos of blood are shitty
>>158868578
dumb lazy poster
>>158868630
It's not supposed to be as good, that's why it's a budget replacement.
You run 2 scholarly witch and 2 of double down man to sorta have the same effect but of course it doesn't beat merlin.
Hey, just browsed through all the links from the OP, didn't see anything specific about this;
do you buy standard or darkness packs at the beginning? I guess it depends on what class you are focusing on, but if I'm still undecided?
>>158868578
goooooooooooooooooo blumpkin!!
>>158868563
>0 useful legos
vs
>2-6 useful legos right at the start
yeah sure shitposter kun
>>158868735
Standard and then craft what you need from DE.
>>158868732
I get that, but still, I could never recommend the deck without Merlin.
>>158868735
Standard for newplayers since they have a small collection
>>158868578
It's tier 2. It's in a sad position of getting kinda fucked since everyone is running angelic barrage to screw over forestcraft though, and in the higher ranks it's very bad against Tempo/PtP Forestcraft and Control Swordcraft, which are popular. Till then it works like a charm though
>tfw big dragon guy with joseph joestar voice
>get bullied into submission by loli elf and her fairies
OHHHHMYYYGOOOODDDD
So how far did you get /svg/?
>>158868905
Oh. Is banner sword the other viable aggro deck? I just want my goblin-esque MTG deck.
>>158868470
Well shit, I thought someone earlier said you can do it more than once.
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/royal-banner-swordcraft
Built this one yesterday, but is it viable for cheap wins?
How is Face Dragoncraft? The tier list has it in tier 2 with an 8.5 score, is that accurate?
>>158869019
My impression is that you can't. You could try checking around just in case. Might as well.
>>158868779
>yeah sure shitposter kun
They ended up arguing that you didn't need to reroll because you could spend real money yesterday
>>158868995
>>158869019
>>158869036
Yes, it's pretty good for newplayers
Question:
I'm getting my ass kicked with Havencraft on solo story mode. I'm didn't really messed with the decks or used my tickets, and am playing with the default deck.
Should I be good enough to complete the story mode with the default decks, or should I spend all my tickets and create a custom deck already?
>>158868995
30k
Is this set worth keeping?
>>158869015
Storm Haven, Banner Sword, Face Dragon, Aggro Necro, and Aggro Bat are the viable aggro decks.
In viability order they would go storm Haven, Aggro Bat, Face Dragon, Banner Sword, Aggro Necro
Banner Sword is the cheapest by far, but Aggro Bat is basically mono-Red thanks to copious burn potential.
>>158869140
>3dpd
>>158868995
Do absolutely NOT bully!
its safe to say that I can liquify any copy of a card when I got more then three of them right?
>>158869015
banner sword loses to control/midrange sword and tempo elf/ptp hard as well but you do well against most of the other shit.
it does well against all haven decks though, so it's great for early laddering
>>158869170
>45k vials
You're not fooling me.
>>158869140
USe you tickets to see if you have something goodsauce pic
>>158869170
depending og the golds.
Flute and Golem are shitty
>>158869036
>using gamepress
But why, why use a site managed by 5 guys from reddit?
>>158869140
You can make a better deck than what the game gives you, just from the packs. So yes, I would recommend making a deck just for the sake of getting started in the story mode.
It'll help you get more acclimated to ranked.
Any of these that I can safely liquify to finish up some budget decks ? Pascale and moon are foil
>>158867825
>>158867270
I've been facing a lot of Face and Elena decks lately so there's not really a lot I can bounce or I didn't draw it early so I have to usually end up bouncing a golem for a draw and spellboost.
I've also never issues had drawing Dshift and the executes definitely help against shit like Forte.
Maybe my best bet would let go of a Summon Snow and a Barrage for a Merlin and 1 Fire Chain.
>>158869225
>>158869250
>>158869194
I see.
I'm just gonna stick with bats then. I like burn, I like goblins, I like red deck wins
>>158869289
>5 guys from redditThat's not true, I write for it too and I don't even have a Reddit account
Is Beast Dominator's flavor text directed at the player or an animal?
>forgetting that the evolve limit is per game and fucking up
HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO BEAT ELITE ERIKA AI ?!?!?! REEEEEEEEEEE
>>158869323
Erasmus
what are some must have neutral cards? I have some material to spare
>>158869124
Come on anon only 310 more wins for that 5 packs.
>>158869342
A-anon!?
>>158869280Elsa Jean, probably a Blacked video, don't know which one
>>158865073
your forgetting the biggest thing
>going first is a huge fuck you
>unless your playing aggro it wont matter and your bound to lose because next guy gets TWO draws AND an extra evolve point
>god forbid it control or something
this game's balance is so shit but its fun. I wish first player got a third evolve point at 10 playpoints or something
>>158869217
>he doesn't like JAV stars
???
>>158869396
All players are animals
>>158869225
>He didn't get the special emblems/cardbacks
I'm sorry anon, you'll never be able to go full ding dong.
>>158869438
How you beat any elite AI, rush them down with swordcraft/bloodcraft and repeat until success
>>158869438
I just played aggro bloodcraft
>>158869362
reading what the other anon said, bataggro is not bad against control sword btw, even though you might expect otherwise because control sword typically does well against aggro
it's actually the only favored aggro deck because their burn goes through wards.
control sword doesn't show up as much as other decks on ladder because of the 40k vial cost though, so in the end it doesn't make or break aggrobat in terms of ladder potential
>>158869474
the only JAV actress worth fapping to is AIKA
>>158869097
Yeah
The issue is that there's other decks that do the same thing better but it's still good
Fort or Fortay?
>>158869624
Is itfun?
>>158869589
The only exception to that rule is the Elite Havencraft deck, since it seems built to be VERY strictly anti-aggro.
>>158869323
no
>>158869461
Thanksi don't like blacked things but will see her another works
>>158868704
He's gone like the wind
>>158869635
フォルテ
>>158869635
Forte, like the music term.
>>158869635
It's pronounced best girl
>>158869635
Tiddies.
>>158869443
Altered Fate, PtP, Fujin, Urd, Angelic Barrage, Dance of Death, Execution, Demonic Blast or whatever the 4 PP 3 damage to anything thing is called and Goblinmount Demon. For leggos Olivia, Gabe, Luci, Odin and Satan see some use.
>tfw I pulled Mordecai on my first roll
No need to reroll now, I'm gonna play as the loli until this game dies.
>>158869607
>bataggro is not bad against control sword
Uhhhhh
http://syadoreco.com/metareports/deck/16/week/all/2016/43/t/
>38% winrate against control sword
Between that and the forescraft winrates Bat Aggro is basically unplayable in higher ranks unless you're a masochist.
>>158869474
>the first player should get 4 tempo plays, instead of three 3 like the second player
dumb hearthstone posters
>>158869731
>>158869731
>spreads her legs for an animal
>best girl
pick one
>>158869635
what's this game's obsession with showing panties?
>>158869839
Some anon in this thread played it to master so it can't be unplayable like you say
>>158868563
Only got like 3 leggos and didn't re-roll, call the cops idgaf.
>>158869474
>I wish first player got a third evolve point at 10 playpoints
Wat? Who the fuck need it? Aggro win or lose at t7-8, control run 2 olivias already.
>>158863125
Does anyone know why a lot of cards have a black censor on them? I'm in NA, Canada, and half of every fucking card is censored.
>>158869609
I think Hitomi Tanaka is a great tit cow but holy shit does she have a butterface
>>158869396
>game devs put their filthy fetishes into the game
when will it stop?
>>158869837
>tfw you think Shadow loli has the most interesting and best cards but everyone says she's subpar or shit
SUFFERING.
ANDAS ,LORD OF THE FLIES AND MORDECAI ARE SO COOL LOOKING THOUGH. I LOVE PLAYING AS A SPOOKY SKELLINGTON INSTEAD OF GENERIC MOE BLOB #124555443
Hologram cardgames when?
I dont want to spend money on digital cards
>>158869823
thx anon-kun
>>158869839
that's a really low sample size (like 200 games) though I don't have anything besides the matchup chart from game-ai to contest that: http://game-ai.jp/shadowverse/new-card-environment-tier-rankings/
I'll just say that from playing control sword I think bataggro is favored, but that's just an anecdote. I do agree it's pretty shit in higher tiers though just because everyone's teching in barrage for forest on top of forest being a godawful matchup for them
>>158869609
Aika's fucking low tier
Nozomi Aso's da bes
>>158869837
Now you need only 40k vials to build deck that use him.
>>158863710
Can you explain to me how this works? How do I get those six cards easily? I've only played Shadowverse on Steam. I have a tablet, and I can hook it up to my wi-fi, so do I download shadowverse there and link my account somehow? How do I do that?Thanks beforehand
>genesis dragon evolved stats are 9/11
>>158869665
It's really fun if you win but it's not got a lot of thinking so it's samey and it's not fun to play if you're on the backfoot
>>158870164
She's not subpar, Luna has a lot of solid cards. The metagame is just unfavorable to them right now because their core class mechanic is fucked really hard by banish.
Hopefully we'll see them print some banish counters for Luna next expac.
So when is there going to be another expansion/balance change? I think there needs to be a meta shift unless they're fine with forest having the majority of tier 1 decks with few to none bad matchups
>>158870404
Great. I already have Spell Runecraft for when I want to think, so it sounds perfect. Thanks, anon.
>>158870431
Forest is the devs favorite craft so never ever expect a change
>>158870052
Obviously I was exaggerating. It's just difficult because you're unfavored against popular decks, and pretty poorly too, so you need some luck on your side, but aggro bat's strength is it can quickly slaughter anyone with the right draws.
>>158870228
It's definitely unfavored. White Paladin can counter all your bats, their board presence is just better than yours will ever be thanks to cards like Floral Fencer, they have wards for days so if they stop your early game it's over, and Aurelia specifically is especially good against decks that flood. If you don't get a really good curve you are completely, utterly fucked. Sure you have reach, but reach doesn't do much when they've been able to quell all your early game and they're sitting pretty at 15 health in the late game behind their second Aurelia.
>choose a tier deck
>liquefy all the cards in that character that aren't in the deck
Is there anything wrong with this?
>>158870164
tough choice, the one on the right seems to have the nicest ass but she also has a huge jaw and a weird smile
I'll take the loli molester on the left
>Sword in Take Two
how the fuck is this balanced
Is it absolute madness to pick a 9 drop starting out in a draft? Leonidas just seems really good.
>>158870398
>>158870593
not being able to play any other decks any time soon
>>158870593
Have fun doing your dailies.
>>158870637
The power of allies and friends triumphs over anything.
Why is Vengeance even a thing? You are pretty much dead before you can even get any use of it.
>>158870686
>>158870716
he said 'in that character' tho
Does anyone else have a taunt that's as annoying as Rowan's?
They're the only reason I enjoy card games
>>158870593
you forgot video games were supposed to be fucking fun you turdsniffer
enjoy fucking yourself on dailies
>>158870593
You'll have trouble doing dailies and if you get bored of your tier deck you'll struggle to build another
>>158870640
No, in fact it's a good idea to pick a big bomb first so you can build your deck around it. Once you pick up Leonidas as your first pick you can direct your draft to best use it.
>>158870686
>>158870716
I think you may have misunderstood. This is what I mean:
>decide to play Runecraft
>pick a Runecraft list
>liquefy all the Runecraft cards not in the list
>>158870637
Like seriously, they're insanely consistent in a format where players are handicapped by having inconsistent decks, they can just flood the board with weenies and most classes don't have any removal
>Floral Fencer
>fucking Leonidas
So besides 3x Elena and Themis's, what are some staple cards in an Elena haven deck?
Holy fuck it's literally the first time they're meeting, she got asked who she is and she answered Isabelle and asked back the same thing, what's with this garbage?
>>158870901
Oh.
It'll make it harder to build other decks for the class. That's it
>>158871050
Great, then I'm golden. Thanks man
>>158870810
dumb hearthstone poster
Are there any cards that fill the board with weak, but warded, creatures? What decks can they be used in? I have a plan.
This anime Hearthstone game is pretty good.
Im really enjoying Zoolock
Why is Floral Fencer allowed to be better than any blood legendary?
>>158870970
>What is an introduction?
>>158870851
A U R E L I A
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>>158871121
death's breath in mid/control shadow
white paladin in control sword
>>158871121
White Paladin.
Queen Vampire.
Death's Breath.
>>158871121
There is but she is shitty
>>158871146
It's white weenies, not zoo
>>158871179
>>158871194
Oh my, thank you. Time to focus on something around those then. Ohohoho.
>>158870970
Looks like a screen from some hentai game desu senpai
>>158871121
Deaths breath.
>>158871114
He's right though. There's a reason the best blood deck is fast as fuck, because trying to play a long game where your cards need you to be on half your health is stupid as fuck and is asking for death.
>>158871159
Why is Floral Fencer allowed to be better than 95% of the cards in the game?
>>158870915
Just jam all the good Haven cards in plus the healing cards. Rabbit Healer, Healing Angel, Randiant Angel, Holy Water, Blackened Scripture, Priest of the Cudgel, Beastcall Aria, Sacred Plea just off the top of my head. Don't use the 4 mana healing girl I think
>>158871281
You forget to post a blonde ojousama laughing with the hand covering the mouth
>>158870915
Aria
Husbando
Everyone's favorite loli
>>158870970
>It's literally the first time they're meeting, why are they introducing themselves?
Rerolling for like 2 hours now. I can stop now right?
>>158871436Does this work?
What deck types would you guys like to see?
Milling
Stat reduction
>>158871338
>>158871159
4 drops are pretty fucked up in this game desu
>>158871594
Vengeance
>>158871161
>>158871528
Luna did not give her name yet. Isabelle did not ask "what do you want to do". That's what I'm complaining about.
The introduction is what was supposed to happen, not what's on screen right now.
>>158871535
No, those leggos are fucking useless.
Reroll again.
>>158871334
>he's right
god you are so creepy
>>158871594
Viable control.
What do I do with her, do I DE ? my only other significant forestcraft cards are fairy princess and forest elf
Best card.
>Failure to initialize!
>Your hardware does not support this application, sorry!
Thanks LeapDroid. Guess I won't reroll.
>>158871728
>what is Elana and Sword
>evolve floral fencer on 4
>Waiting for response...
Best girl
>>158871535
Go full SMT and own Beginner-D rank like it's yours.
>>158871735
just use nox emulator senpai
>>158871594
Fuck milling
It makes games less fun to play
When will cygames add a feature to date your cards?
>>158871535
>ing for like 2 hours now. I can stop
re roll
>>158871554
muh dick
>>158871729
>What do I do with her
Post animation.
>first day playing this game
>only played arena so far
>still unaware of a lot of mechanics and cards
>doing pretty well anyway because almost everyone is a retard with no concept of tempo or value who just hit your face every opportunity they get, completely ignoring high priority followers and losing because of it
why are people so bad?
>>158871849
no go to granblue if you want that
>>158871159
That's not even a problem. The problem is that a silver rarity Dragon card that literally never ever saw ladder play is objectively better than one of Blood's legendary. One legendary spares your opponent the effort of killing you, and does it for him, just for a fucking 4 hp ward body, 1 legendary gets turned into a vanilla 3 drop thanks to Angelic Barrage, and finally, the only viable legendary that got recently added that should have been part of the core set.
It's just far too obvious how undertuned Blood is by design. Devs were hoping vengeance would be powerful, but instead gave the class a shitload of unplayable cards that require you to be 1 foot in the grave to be on par with other classes at best. Having to fight against your classes' mechanic, instead of benefiting from it, and having the worst legendaries in the game, really leaves no room for the class other than "end game by 6 or lose". It's my favourite class, but I honestly wish they would just remove it entirely and replace it with something else. It's just a bad filler class that doesn't do anything right now.
>>158871796
Theyre not shadow.
>>158871535
That is a definite reroll.
>>158871878
Are you coming from hearthstone or some shit? On steam you're playing with people who've never touched a card game in their life and just jumped at more anime tiddies since people on steam are thirsty like that. Of course they have no concept of what tempo or value is.
>>158871980
they just need to rework beast dominator
>>158872113
Wait, there's no crossplay between PC and android?
Is this a good start? I was planning on rolling for Bloodcraft, Swordcraft, and maybe Havencraft, and I got a decent amount here it seems. Can I make anything with this starter or should I reroll?
>>158872224
There is, but Steam influx of new players means you're probably playing against LITERAL noobs.
>>158870970
Luna introduces herself in the Japanese version, iirc Isabelle is too hyped up and acts like the crazy bitch that she is
>>158872243
Queen Vampire and Demon Commander Laura aren't viable right now
Azazel is trash
Revelation isn't used anymore
>>158872243
You should probably reroll. You'd only be able to make a good Forestcraft deck, given those PtP's.
when do rankings reset?
should i be worried if I'm C3 right now?
>>158872419they don't
Fuck. I just want my sleeves. I don't mind playing Ranked, I just don't want to play another game after grinding out 5.9k in two days.
>>158865671
>tfw started off with selling everything that wasn't runecraft to build a runecraft deck
>Suck ass at card games and almost lose to beginner AI's
>>158871980
if the opponent spends half their turn on 6 killing the 2 bats and can't even clear off the queen, that's pretty good
honestly, the problem is there's no good vengance cards. The class is filled with shit like mormo and cobra and fucking devil of vengance for their "value" vengance cards, then you look at shit like blood wolf and razory claw which are actually good but obviously aggro cards and it's no surprise aggro is the only archetype they can play.
maybe, MAYBE soul dealer will be okay someday if they print really strong 5 and 6 vengances that also have drain to heal yourself back up. Righteous devil is okay but he isn't good enough alone and certainly not worth the risk of playing soul dealer when you don't have him in hand.
>>158872161
It would literally do nothing. If they made her a good aggro card, it would just become a 1 or 2 of aggro finisher. It would still leave us with a none class that's trying to be a discount Sword with some burn.
Blood needs overpowered vengeance, and drain cards that reward controlling the board, instead of "controlling" face. I'm more bothered by the lack of identity that ignoring vengeance and drain is causing, rather than the viability. The same shit is happening with Dragon right now. Everyone is dropping ramp to play mindless aggro. Soon enough we'll just have 5 aggro only classes, D.Shift, and the eternal cancer that is Forest.
>>158872535
righteous devil is the only good vengeance card
>Seraph mirror
>Lose solely because I go second
Gotta say this is one bullshit match-up
Oh baby.
>replaces your entire deck
Sounds awesome
>>158872419
Only the rewards reset
Blood is ok the way that is right now. cause when they give powerfull vengeance cards everyone will complain about how cheat the class is when they hit 10hp
>>158872724
if you somehow magically survive
the barrage of aggro
then maybe just MAYBE you can play that card before dying next turn
>>158872724
he's a fun card, but not that good right now due to the speed of the meta and other win cons, it can probably work at the lower ranks just fine though so have fun
>>158871487
Beastcall Aria I presume?
Lucifer...? That's definitely not a card I'm going to be able to get for a bit.
Ding dong?
>>158872724
Is this the Jaraxxus of shadowverse
>>158872619
There are no good vengeance cards. Anything that requires evolve to be playable is shit, unless it sets you ahead by a lot (Floral and Cudgel). Righteous costs you evolve to break even from the ass pounding you took to reach vengeance. Maybe if drain worked when defending, he'd actually be worthwhile, since he'd have to eat removal or heal you for 4 more.
>>158872724
It's very(not)awesome man.
Can someone concede to a private for me? The id is 97104.
Will I ever need 3 Merlins, It seems like most decks only run 2, but I already made 2 and I pulled another.
>check nico streams
>top streamer plays PtP Blood in AA3 and is on a 7 win streak
nice
>>158872619
revelation is good too but my point remains the same.
vengance as a mechanic is fine, even soul dealer would be okay if they printed some really strong drain cards that activate only in vengance. but as it is now there's literally like 2 or 3 control cards for the deck so of course control blood falls flat on it's face
>Get blown the fuck out by Mythril Golem in Take Two
>>158872724
It does things like drop 8/8 storms and bring your opponent to 1 life. However
>10 energy
You won't use it much, but it's a thrill when its being used.
>>158872724
The 7 damage spell can be used against players, and you can draw it more than once.
It's more of an "I'm already winning, let me win more" because if you are low hp and they swing at your face on the turn after you play it, you lose. Think Jaraxxus from HS.
>Aggro blood mirror
>Whoever draws more vampys first wins
very "skilled" game
>>158873007
lmao get fucked nerd
>>158871159
>>158871338
>>158871808
https://m.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/4vv9bf/floral_fencer_should_not_be_run_in_any_sword_list/
>>158872917
Thanks man I appreciate it.
>>158873120
Wow it's almost as if one person always wins, mindblowing...........
>>158873120
>Mirror match
>Whoever gets their wincons out first wins
what is wrong here my hearth babby
>>158872979
Problem is, they're more likely to buff the class by giving it tools to kill the opponent faster, instead of being allowed to survive longer. They love their turn 8 or 9 games, because they want the Japanese wageslaves to be able to play more games on their daily commute.
>>158872476
i just got mine, good luck anon you can do it!
>Got to AA0 trials on a winstreak of 11
Thank you based Erika
>>158873120
>two players playing the same deck
>game comes down to draw order and player skill
>with a low skill deck like aggro blood it's almost entirely draw order
Have you ever played a card game before?
>>158873284
>RNG is skill
>>158873235
No problem.
>>158873314
nothing's scary with allies by your side
That glorious fucking feel when you beat your opponent to lethal by one turn and they stall forever
>>158871823
Bit of a late reply, but Nox? Never heard of this one, is it any good?
>>158873349
ever played a card game before? if it's your first that's ok
>>158873169
haha
>leddit
>>158873349
Name one card game ever made without card draw RNG, and don't be a clever little cunt about it, name one that actually has drawing as part of the game.
>>158873325
>>158873445
>RNG is a player skill
no wonder this type of game is fulled of little kids who have fun flipping coins to determine wins
my current gaming experience summed up via decklist
>>158873449
Even they shitposted him out for that shit.
How often do you think Losaria and Arisahad loving wood elf sex?
>>158873484
Name one card game that actually takes skill
you can't because it's all rng
Is there a site where I can hear card voice lines on demand?
>>158873502
literally where did I say that
>plays card game
>complains about RNG
literally every card game physical or digital has randomness in its draw order
>>158873625
Then why the fuck did you download a card game and continue to shitpost in a thread about a card game?
>>158873502
you're the only one who thinks it's player skill desu, everyone who plays card games accepts it as a necessary evil
i recommend UNO
this is the worst fucking bug with the steam version
>>158872724
Ramp dragon is fun for dropping it turn 7, there's also Guardian Sun memes with him, but he kinda fell out of the meta.
>>158873625
We get it, you lost the brainless aggro mirror and got angry, now you're shitposting here.
I DID IT! I won my FIRST multiplayer match!! Sure, it was on un-ranked, but WOOHOO!
>>158873814
good job anon.
>Mulligan some mid/late game cards
>Get late game cards
>Draw a mid game card I shuffled earlier
Bless my luck
>getting blown out by aggro bat in take two
N-Nani?!?
>>158873845
Thanks! Here's what I got from the pack. Yay!
>build aggro bat
>start rising through the ranks
>build forte
>start falling through the ranks
It just seems so inconsistent in comparison.
This is some bullshit
>>158873120
>in a meta full of fairies and aggro
>not teching in angelic barrage for the mirror/elf match
you really are grasping at straws here.
why the fuck there are so many healhaven in the ladder
nobody was playing it yesterday
The person who gets second seems to get a lot of advantages
>draws two cards off the bat
>can evolve quicker
>can evolve 3
Why is this? I'm new, so I'm not sure I understand.
>Get into an Elena mirror match
Should I just concede?
>>158873984
>Aggro Bat out faced
>>158874043
biggest disadvantage in the game and no one realize it
>>158873946
Not bad, death's breath is the 2nd most important shadow card.
>>158873997
angelic barrage only really stops forest and bataggro, the other aggro decks don't really care since everything gets stormed out anyway and the tempo loss for playing it is huge
>>158873997
The decklist doesn't have angelic barrage so why would I run it
>>158874112
I love Shadow, but I'm bad at it. Good to know, thank you!
>>158872419
Start conceding my friend.
>>158873984
He's at 16 health on turn 7, you were never going to win that game with Aggro Blood
>>158872419
>>158874170
Wait, why would you ever want to LOSE rank...?
>>158873984
That little 2 drop gold card +1 each card played FUCKING nice balance nyg games
>>158874043
Going first is really good, anon. Sorry you hadn't built an aggro deck strong enough to take advantage
>having to listen to "FAIRIEEEES~" 100 times in a row
>>158873984
you have 3 damage in hand and 4 on board on 7 and he's at 16, you're fucked no matter what is in his hand
>>158873972
I remember before DE when people tried to play Aggro Blood decks their big problem was that they were really inconsistent. Vampy and her Fortress single-handedly saved Aggro Blood.
I love how they made it so aggro decks get to completely invalidate wards now. Thanks Dance of Death
>>158874121
you... you're joking right?
Not bad for my first take two run ever.
Also I feel stupid, but I spent like 30 seconds trying to figure out how to claim my reward. I was clicking on that chest and trying to find something on the right side completely missing huge glowing button "Redeem Rewards".
>>158873510
>only aggro decks
Disgusting.
I'm not a historyfag, why does Alexander attack 14 times? I'm sure it's for some memeworthy reason.
>>158873306
Anon! I did it! Thank you for your confidence!I even kept my modest winstreak going too
I am never waiting until the last three days /ever/ again. Although going 60~20ish on the way to B0 wasn't intolerable.
>>158873984
>{roach noises}
>>158874043
they need to change something about it, almost every class has a higher win chance when going second
>>158874374HEY LETS PLAY
>>158872867
Like a mix between Jaraxxus, Ysera, and Elise Starseeker
>>158874080
>>158873801
>People trying to shame aggro bat
Yeah I bet you're the same shitters who tell people to play control shit and use Queen Vampire just so they become a free win for you
blame cygames for making this shitty cancer the only way to play this craft and win
Could someone please post foil Skeleton Viper?
>>158873984
You should be a little more liberal with your evos.
>>158873921
Oh so he wasn't just aggro bat, he was aggro bat that drafted FUCKING REVELATION for when I finally got the board back and stabilized and won him the game
FUCK
I want Eris to liberate me.Of my virginity.
>expecting good translation when they can't even proofread normal text
>Brand new to this game
>Open my whopping forty fuckin packs
>Aurelia, Tsubaki, Otohime, Leonidas, Alexander, White Paladin, Tia, Pascale, Erasmus and two Enstatued Seraph
S-so, did I do good, cause it looks like I got every card on that googledoc for Sword.
>>158873314
post deck
>>158874121
>what is tech
>>158874378
Any advice on forte decks?
Their playstyle seems quite different to aggro bat.
>>158874534
Too bad you're not a shota, then, 'cause that's all the nuns go for
>>158874518
There was no opportunity, everytime I put something out it got removed and then I had to sac shit into that elf ward legendary
>>158874556
yeah, very good. otohime a cute
>>158874620
>not being a shota
>>158874563
>>158874416
if angelic barrage was important it would've been in the decklist, otherwise there's no way to know what to cut
>>158874121
You sound like one of those people who picked up that winstreak aggrobats deck and ignores the flexible issues it has.
>>158874294
Rank doesn't reset like Hearthstone. Meaning the higher rank you go the more bullshit the decks you will face. The thing is the daily missions that give you gold require you to be able to win some games with different classes in ranked and you may not be able to win a game at high rank with a shitty deck you just want to complete your mission for.
>>158874804
>confirmed for cant think for himself
>Priest of Cudgel is literally just Medusa but better
>>158874804
>>158874804
so this is the kind of person people talk about when using the term netdecking.
wew
>>158874428
the only two deck types are aggro decks and decks that take longer that you delude yourself into believing have decisions that matter instead of one obvious option and multiple shittier options per turn
I can finally exit reroll hell, thank god.
>>158874882
Oh. I see. That actually makes sense, thanks.
>it's another "I started playing this week and I'm an expert on everything even though my experience with card games is limited only to HS" opinion
Love this meme
grinding story mode to finish every arc right now, is it really worth it?
>>158874562
Looks like a midrange.with an asetic knight replacing an Orihime or Tsubaki
>>158875063
yes
>>158874970
What in the...!
>>158875063
story mode unlocks some bread and butter cards for decks
>>158875063
You get an arena ticket, cards and some gold for each one so yeah. You should also beat each Elite AI.
>>158875026
reroll until you get triple Queen Vampire
>>158875136
what will I get out of all this?
>>158875026
>settling for that
I mean it's your future
>>158874620
come to think of it.
seeing as how this is a typical moeblob anime game what would be the typical doujin scenario's for these characters?
>Arisa X pig orcs
>Eris x shota orphan boy
>Erika x enemy raiders
>Luna x ????
>Isabelle x ????
>Lost because my opponent hit me with 3 Dance of Deaths
I really, really, REALLY want to just kill whoever designed this card. I want them to be brutally beaten to death for this this obnoxious fucking card needed to exist. I seriously hope they have nothing but pain and sorrow in their life from now on
>>158875209
some of the best 4drops avalaible for half of the classes and arena ticket for each
>>158875026
Post otohime animation.
>>158875209
Arena tickets
Vials
Rupies
Basic Cards
A sleeve
>Finally managed to start rerolling after supposedly fucking myself over
>Each reroll takes 15 minutes due to reinstalling and 5 minutes of loading the damn title screen
Fucking yay, is there any reason why you can only buy 10 packs at a time?
>>158875278
>Luna x ????
Zombie gangbang
>>158875278
Me x All Lolis
>>158875278
Eris X Urias corrupting her doggystle over the altar and then he bites into her neck and turns her into a vampire as he cums inside
>>158875278
>a priest exorcises Luna's parents and then dicks the dark magic out of her as she cries out for her parents who are gone for good
>>158875216
I just wanted to get above average luck anon. It took a long time. I don't care so much about the particular cards because I will probably play arena for most of the first month.
>>158875278
Luna wouldfuck some big hot demon or something, that or get gangraped by broke free undead creatures.
Should I save up my gold for if/when a new expansion is released? I started a few days ago, but I managed to start with a decent deck or two, and I don't really need any cards right now. Opening packs is fun, but is saving my gold a smart choice, or will they not be updating this game?
woah four legends from 10 packs thank you RNG gods
>>158874804
You can't be serious.
>>158875278
Luna is for lolidom as she collects semen for necromancy research
Isabelle's for NTR and rape
Erika is for yuri
Arisa is for consensual sex in the missionary position for the sole purpose of making faries to bounce Tia up and down with
>>158875278
Isabelle would get
Golems
Rowen
Dragon Rowen
Random sex with anyone to substitute for warmth
>>158875326
Nah, tbqh senpai it's shit.
>>158875554
>I don't really need any cards right now
well I mean it's your call, but if you really just started a few days ago it's a little hard to believe
>>158875613
>Luna is for lolidom as she collects semen for necromancy research
I can get behind this
>>158875634
I'll second Isabelle with Dragon Rowen here.
>>158865150
Satan and polyphonic roar are both win conditions but are extremely heavy tempo losses
Olivia is a win condition and a much better come back card, but dracomancers rights is usually a dead card
I would probably always pick olivia
>>158875669
I got pretty lucky with my 35 free packs, and I made a good banner swordcraft and a shadow deck with some lucky draws, so I'm happy with it for low-level play.
>>158875613
Erika is for blackmail rape
Specifically the type of doujin where the rapists say they'll fuck the princess if she doesn't give in
then at the end they reveal they were fucking her all along anyway and Erika's sacrifice was worthless to mindbreak her
>>158875578
>atomy
>howl
M E M E D
E
M
E
D
>>158875278
>Arisa is dommed and impregnated by Futa Nexus
>Eris is gangbanged by shadow creatures summoned by her evil twin
>Erika is tied up and fetish tortured by hime-sama
>Luna fucks a guy to death drawing out his lifeforce through his dick, then resurrects him as a new 'playmate'
>Isabelle is raped by a golem that goes out of control and spawns more golems
>>158875613
>Luna is for lolidom as she collects semen for necromancy research
>>158875776
if you plan to just play those forever you could start saving up for the next expansion i suppose
>>158875919
Basically my plan. I'll do that then, thanks pal.
Can someone post the roach OTK image for the combo? It had the highest damage per PP and the card ordering for the combo
Beast Dominator is instavial right? No idea why this is a legendary
Oh my fuuuuck I haven't opened any golds or legends in 20 packs and before that I got Pluto. I've been buying my daily 50 crystal packs too. Hell, most of my packs don't have more than two silvers.
I might just burn cash on 100 crystal packs until I get something good, this is frustrating.
>>158876038
she is good for dick memes
I use her as a finisher in my aggro deck
This was a long top deck war.
Can I use these cards? Or is it utter trash.
Which of these decks should I craft? I only have the dust for one
Garuda Havencraft
Seraph Havencraft
Pascale Runecraft
Satan Dragoncraft
>>158876092
>I might just burn cash on 100 crystal packs until I get something good, this is frustrating
Don't do it. Don't give in to the Jew.
>>158876168
Quite bad, would reroll
>>158876159
>veil of shit
Is it d0?
>>158876203
Seraph Haven
>>158876203
SATAN
A
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A
N
>>158876203
Do the hybrid seraph deck that abuses beastcallers and elana's
>>158873727
What is?
Am I supposed to lose to these guardian golem spam decks as aggro blood
Before I get started on the semi-rant of the game's general art direction toward female characters, I would like to thank the developers for making a fantastic TCG that, in my opinion, trumps most other digital card games out today. It's well made, polished, fun, and most importantly the least p2w TCG I've seen. Of course I have not directly played the game myself yet, and most of the information I will be talking about is based of videos and streams I have watched.
Yet despite these compliments towards a game that has such well done gameplay, there is a very large elephant in the room that most people I have seen not bring up so far. And that is how the art in the game, specifically the art on the female characters, is extremely sexualized. To the point where it seems like the characters are be treated as objects for the male view rather than human beings. This in turn causes massive consequences in society where the general population who is exposed to this sort of objectification brings it to reality. Women begin to be treated less than human and issues such as rape culture arise from it. Though Shadowverse is not the sole cause of this problem in society, it is another cog in the machine. A cog which is completely alienating 50% of the game's potential market (female gamers).
This I why I plea to the developer to change or add an option to the game to censor and make the female characters less sexualized. It will severely help widening your player base and making your game more open to more players who do not tolerate the game's current female objectification.
>>158876297
Take Two
I laughed at him.
Then he dropped Satan and Siegfried, cleared my board, used Altered fate then on the next turn used Reckoning and killed me from 20.
This is the icing on the cake of bullshit I've been taking tonight.
It's time to stop playing for the day.
>>158876431
>getting memed this hard
Come on man, you can't be mad about someone actually pulling that shit off.
>>158876414
WHO
THE
FUCK
CARES
>>158876431
>DoD in Elana
But why
Can I get a concede?
#82540
>three altered fates in one turn
feels so good to meme people
>>158876414
Pokerkid777 pls go
>>158876414
>Of course I have not directly played the game myself yet, and most of the information I will be talking about is based of videos and streams I have watched.
lol get fucked Steamfags
>>158876431
>>158875976
>>158876618
>Second best deck in the game
>Meme
I don't think you know what a meme is
>>158876414
I'm not reading that shit, reddit.
>>158876582
Thanks!
>>158876203
garuda havencraft is good&fun
>>158876414
even though this is shitty copy pasta I actually don't like how they throw the shitty boob demons in your face so obnoxiously
pretty tired of the dragon's crown sorceress ripoffs
I can't fucking beat the havenbitch in Luna's 7th mission holy shit how the hell am I supposed to deck for that?
>>158876414
To be honestmy gfand this NEET dyke I play against sometimes both love the sexy anime girls in this game.
Always wonder how many of these dudes bitching about sexy characters actually ask women what they think of them.
>>158876431
You are a faggot, not a memer
See this shit >>158876431
This is a real memer
>>158876908
Go maximum aggro.
>>158876879
nice try Pokerkid777, we know it's you.
>Elena Haven who run Seraphis.
you people make me sick
Anata no tamashii delicious kashira~
>>158877006
i'm not enough of a faggot to know who that is
>>158876734
Thank you very much. Time to memorise and terrorise with [Roach Noises] in AA.
>>158876618
see >>158876985fug
>>158877029
Tech Odins or let glory be faggot
>turn 1 water child
>turn 2 may
>every fucking game
god I hope forest gets nerfed into the fucking ground
>>158877041
>>158876431
I'd congratulate him and buy him a beer if it happened to me
>Rune
Something needs to be done about this class
I don't care if they are shit their turns take fucking 5 minutes
>>158877339
>Turn 1 Insight
FUCK DSHIFT
>Won using a Royal Banner Swordcraft deck without drawing a single Royal Banner
hm...really makes you think...
>>158877470
I prefer turn 1 Angelic Snipe to the face because they drew mulled garbage
>>158877470
>being mad about free wins
>4 golds in 10 packs
Oh, it's one of these again. Hearing about many legendaries and seeing people get many legendaries from 10 packs is a dream at this point.
>>158877460
You can tell how good a runecraft player is at math depending on how long their turns are.
>got another lego
>skullfane
>>158877620
fuck that, i use a calculator
>Go to say well played
>accidentally say hello and then kill them and it ends up being inadvertent BM
every time
>Elite Isabelle
>Turn 4 shadowflame mage always
>turn 5 shadowflame mage + ping
>perfect 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 curve
>has enough boardclears that makes hiroshima look small
Fuck these shits are hard
>only rolled Tsubaki ass one useful legendary
>too lazy to reroll
>sell all other faction's cards and stick with memebanner deck
>winning left and right
Are these good?
>play take two
>pick havencraft because never tried it before
>go 4-1
>mfw last game was enstatued seraph into some countdown accelerators basically just instawon on turn 9
is this normal? does any other deck have a card as broken as this?
>>158878036
ROFL
>Banner Sword with Otohimes, Aurelias, Fencers, and Sage Commanders
Am I getting memed here?
I just lost in the stupidest way.
A havencraft player had a card that "Win instantly when played". It took them two (2) turns to play it. What gives? This isn't fare.
>>158878036
Perfect, all you're missing are Atomeme and Beast Dominator. Just dust Luci and Olivia for them.
How do I get take two tickets?
>>158875089
>>158874562
I have 2x Tsubaki, but I don't run them.
And I run Aesthetic Knight because he's great vs faries and bats.
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Well I complained about the consistence about Forte earlier, but I think I got used to the deck.
>>158876203
I want a Pascale Runecraft, but that shit is expensive.
>>158878036
Complete garbage, reroll
>>158878163
just banish it :^)
>>158878036
Olivia and Lucifer are good neutrals. Fairy Princess is just for Rose Queen meme combo. Skullfane is useless.
>>158878278
But...With what? I'm not running Odin, and even so, I lost right after we got 8 or 9 orbs, so I'd have to have been pretty lucky.
>>158878229
It'a also bad. You're not missing anything
>>158878173
Isn't Olivia great?
Living the meme
>>158876908
Yeah. This fight is "fun"
>Bloodcraft is my favorite class
>Too poor and too new to make Vampire Queen
>Not autistic enough to spam rerolls
>>158878521
You don't need Vampire Queen to play Blood at all, she's just a potential tech.
>>158878229
You only pay for Pascale in Pascale decks, everything else is dirt cheap.
That said, you're paying for Pascale.
>>158878530
>Asking a question is baiting
>It's another "let's fight against the aggro deck with a perfect curve and draw no early game" episode
So what are the key cards for forestcraft?
>>158878605
She seems like she'd be good for Control Blood. Well at least I got Bloody Mary
>>158878418
Olivia is great
Keep her
Waifu her
>>158878716
tia, ancient elf, rhino, cynthia, liza
Memeshift is way too fun. At what ranks do you start meeting decent people? And is there a monthly reset?
>>158878036
ONLY olivia is good but you golds can be good desu
>>158878154
It's called banner memes for one reason
>>158878724
She's really good for Control Blood.
The problem is Control Blood sucks
where did my weekend go
>>158878784
Reset affects only masters players.
>>158878521
Queen is a is a tech, not a staple. A lot of people run Bloody Mary instead to gain reach and improve the control match ups, and even then they only run either legendary at 1 or 2 in most lists. Ditching both legendaries lets you fit in an extra aggro card as well.
The only concern in Bloodcraft is whether or not you're hitting your Vampys.
The ranking system in this game is ridiculous. Since you lose 50 for a loss and gain ~100 for a win you're all but guaranteed to rise up the ranks until you get to a rank where you lose nearly 100% of your matches.
So what happens when you get to this rank where you're losing nearly every time? You just drop back down right? Wrong. You're fucking stuck at the letter rank you're losing at forever.
>>158878628
He's the one baiting you dumbo, also olivia is a decent neutral but only really used in ramp dragon which fell out of the meta, she's too slow for most other decks
Is there any point in even playing a match against Havencraft when you go turn one?
>Three priest of cudgel evolves
>They will always get all three
basically a guaranteed loss
Why the fuck is this card allowed to exist? Clearing the board with a priest of cudgel the turn this shit pops is impossible to deal with
>>158878945
huh, how?
I want to cum inside Lucifer!
>>158878412
I know, but I find the ideafun.
>>158878614
Well it also has a bunch of golds with are DE and I've mostly been getting classic till now.
They need to make it so ranks are displayed on the board screenshot so you can know if someone is instantly worth ignoring.
God I wish there was more porn for this game already, so little on both the normal pictures and doujins it looks like.
>>158879005
The real problem is priest of cudgel
That card needs to cost 6+
>>158879039
but then 90% of the thread would get ignored
Can you re-link a different account to PC?
The link page says you can't unlink.
>>158878967
sandbag if you want to stay low, did you ever think of that?
H-here I go. First Take Two. Got Forestcraft.
>>158878153
>>158878173
>>158878268
>>158878370
They came with these gold.
Not pictured: Wyvern Cavalier, Polyphonic Roar and Silver Bolt.
Should I definitely reroll?
>Like forest/swords & blood craft a lot
>CBA to reroll
DO I PULL THE TRIGGER AND BUY 50 (fifty) PACKS?
>>158879123
I need more Rin Gons.
>1k gold
Should I buy darkness packs or just keep doing arena?
>>158879148
>This retarded opinion again
No, it's Aria and Garuda
>>158879206
>Up against a nip name Shadowcraft with a rainbow colored amulet
h-heh, time to lose
>>158879006
Masters ranking score is separate from regular ranking. Reset brings them all to 0.
>>158879025
The basic Pascale list only runs Levi for gold and he's not core on it. Cards like Curse and Juno's are just for luxury control lists, which is the weaker version of the build in the current meta.
>>158879206
Forest is one of the worse crafts for take 2, but good luck anyway anon!
>>158879148
Priest of the cudgel existed since day 1 of the game
Haven was shit tier until DE expansion
>>158878823
Is it really? I've been having some good success with it, but it's not like wins at the beginner ranks mean anything.
What's the state of Blood right now competitively?
>>158879020
But he's a boy.
>>158879172
>>158870593
cant make meme dicks, otherwise you're golden.
>>158879394
it's shit unless you go aggro and ignore every vengeance card
dont use any self-damage cards either aside from wolves, 2 cost draw and claw either. dire bond is shit
>>158879272
I need more necrololi.
>>158879005
>>158878994
>>158878967
>>158865318
Haven is good? YES
Se is op ? NO
Why 50% of the ladder is Haven? because you only need a 2 Garuda or 2 Elana
There's a lot of ways to deal with haven
Stop complaining and git gud you're only playing it for 2 days
>>158879394
It has a tier 2 aggro deck that's pretty good but sadly the meta is not kind to it.
>>158879418
>Demon Commander Laura
Shit right?
>>158879394
Aggro Blood is one of if not the fastest aggro deck in the game but it's also one of the most fragile for obvious reasons (vulnerability to Barrage, self burn from Razory Claw, etc.).
Control Blood is hovering around T3 and could use a lot of help.
>>158879605
In a world where vengeance isn't dogshit it would be useful
We don't live in that world
>>158879148
Priest of the Cudgel isn't even the best card in his cycle, and he's far removed from the scariest thing in his deck.
Aria's the only card in the deck that needs a nerf. It's core to every Haven build and pushes each of them up a tier. Can't be interacted with reasonably, puts out way too much value over two bodies that each eat removal. Hell, Garuda's pushed but he can stay where he is, an extra turn on Aria would already weaken his burst round.
>>158878873
>only wanted to get Bellringer sleeve
>now I'm A1
No idea brother.
How many wins do you need to average in Take Two to go infinite?
Ive been playing for a couple days averaging 3.4 wins over about 30 arena runs and im losing gold at an alarming rate.
>>158879625
it just needs more than 3 decent control cards (revelation, righteous devil, diabolic drain)
people meme about queen vampire but she's not a bad card, just there's no point to building a deck around vengance when there's literally only 3 usable cards for it. Everything else is garbage tier shit like the cobra or fucking devil of vengance
>>158879675
vengance is fine as a mechanic, imagine if there was cards like "1 pp destroy a follower, deal 5 damage to yourself" paired with powerful drain cards like "vengance: gain drain and storm" on decently statted followers
instead we have "durr you can attack with this vanilla 4/4 if you have vengance"
>>158879891
Well yeah the fact that vengeance is shit has everything to do with the fact that there are 0 good vengeance cards, thank you for pointing the obvious out anon
>>158876168
I rerolled, is this better?
Or should I keep the old one.
Don't wanna do more rerolls.
I am new to the game, but how good is "Dark Angel Olivia" really? Personally i find her rather useful, but she does come online rather late.
>>158879959
it's not obvious, a lot of people claim vengance just can't work in this game period because you'd get bursted down, but that's not the case, it only feels that way cause there's literally 1 decent drain follower and he still needs an evo.
>>158879840
5 is infinite
4 is roughly 2 packs equivalent
3 is even
>>158879521
>tfw in 8% group
build wall
Keep?
>>158880036
She's quite good ins lower decks.
In arena she is OP OP. She might be the best neutral card.
>Want to GG someone
>Say "Thanks!" again
>Feels like I'm mocking them
Man I just want to tell people I had a fun game
>>158879521
No 3 month group?
why the wind always blowing in animated cards?
>>158880036
2x for control decks.
>>158879840
you can go close to infinite if you win 4 times, you lose like 20 gold each run on average (sometimes you lose none if you're lucky)
if you can go 4-1 four times and 5-0 one time every five games that's guaranteed to be infinite, regardless of your luck with rewards.
>>158880072
The point is that they will never add good vengeance cards because that has been obvious since day 1 and instead they just got shittier versions of overflow buffs
cygames does not want bloodcraft to be good
>>158879979
>>158879979
>>158879979
Please tell me if this is good or bad!
If I start a Take Two, can I finish it at a later date? E.G one or two now, maybe the rest tomorrow?
Please help, is important/
Is there a good site to see decks?
>>158879840
Average 4 wins with an occasional 5.
3 wins gives you a discount on your pack.
>>158880250
yeah you can go out of it at any time including during drafting
>>158879979
Still pretty bad
Third times the charm!
>>158880205
it's a good excuse to lift skirts
>>158880292
Oh, sweet, thanks. Guess I'll start one.
>>158880036
>Personally i find her rather useful, but she does come online rather late.
Exactly, some people just use one for make a surprise.
>>158879979
>lego
Only tia and Lord are good but they would need more 6 legos to make a deck
>golds
Shit
>>158880171
>golds
Blood meme is a meme someday can be good and ancient elfy need more 5 legos to play
>>158879812
Surmised as much.
Oh well, It's animated, so it's still 600 vials.
>>158879891
It needs better cards and tweaking.
It's basically like a worse Overflow even ignoring that vengeance is pretty much always a fanfare mechanic.
>open 5 packs
>3 gold cards and then dupes
Wew
>>158879275
>no replies ;_;
I decided to buy 3 packs and got dragonsong flute and enstatued seraph, then 4 more packs and got another enstatued seraph
>>158880406
>>158880171
Correcting myself
>legos
Blood meme is a meme someday can be good and ancient elfy need more 5 legos to play
>golds
half of them are good but ina roll you need atl least 20golds
>destroying haven summon amulets results in the creature being summoned anyway
What the fuck? Why do they get this shit combined with a metric fuckton of cheap no strings banishments?
Post some animations i need to convince a friend here.
Reroll?
>>158876431
You can't hate those kind of losses, damn anon. Kudos to your opponent
>>158880581
>>158880573
>Last Words
Nice reading there friend
>>158880498
you are seraph haven now
Can all these "reroll?" bait images please like, ugh, fuck off?
What do legos refer to? Is it just pieces for a deck or is it a type of card?
>>158880710
Sure, Reddit!
>>158879514
my dick needs it
>>158880657
>2.76MB
jesus christ
>>158880779
legendaries
>>158880779
Legendary cards
>>158880669
Why the fuck make them count as amulets if the designated amulet counters just make them work fucking faster?
come the fuck on PC version
>>158880710
Reroll my foreskin, faggot.
>>158880625
A lot of useful legos and golds, you won't make a deck right away captain but if you are bored maybe you should keep this is a 7,8/10 for me.
Kinda wish I got the card drops for something other than face dragon
It's pretty good but it's not very fun
daily reminder that this game is already dead
http://steamcharts.com/app/453480
Can you spot why this guy conceded after this turn?
>>158863125
why isn't the mega link to the uncensor just the full link? you literally just combine the two.
https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ%20!tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
>>158880991
Here's your (YOU)
I've chosen dragoncraft as my main class.
It doesn't seem S tier, but does it do well in the higher ranks?
I don't want to blow a bunch of time and effort getting hard to get cards for it if I'm going to be wasting my time. Going to start working towards crafting the aggro deck since it's cheaper than control.
>>158880625
Everything there is playable or borderline playable that's legendary. The golds aren't as good but I'd still keep it.
>Dragon vs Rune
>She has no monsters
>I can't keep a monster out for a entire turn cause she just uses a spell
wow super fun
Can anyone give me a tl;dr of how to deal with mirror matches? Like tips, tech cards, etc. You can go in depth if you want.
Also, how does Control Swordcraft work? The archetype doesn't seem like it would be suited for it.
>>158880869
Every class has amulets, and Execute counters them
Haven has countdown amulets that summon stuff when they kill themselves (count to 0), thats their class mechanic. If Execute banished amulets Haven would be unplayableagain
How necessary is rerolling to get a good start into the game?
>>158880991
>>158881096
Thank fucking god I don't have to see this shit anymore
>>158881205
haven is cancer enough now where you can make an argument that they should've stayed unplayable
FUCK THE PTP FOREST NIGGERS
FUCK EVERY FUCKING FOREST DECK HOLY SHIT WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS COLOR
how old is shadowverse?
>>158881096
T-thanks
>>158881182
>Also, how does Control Swordcraft work?
Play wards and trade minions early on using the innately strong early game Swordcraft has so you can transition into your late game fatties and Olivia
>>158880625
Super keepable, you can even already make a seraph deck if you craft themis'
>>158881056
That's strong for a f2p game going off of only word of mouth
>>158881087
the step with pasting the decryption key prevents reddit from using our resources, they're far too stupid to figure out our 1337 hacker methods
>>158881292
>[angry roach noises]
>>158881182
>how
Play ward, end turn, trade, play new ward, end turn.
>>158881083
he conceded out of shame because he realized he bought the worst alt. leader?
>All the same questions/complaints answered 100x before
>Tripfag here
W E W FUCKING HELL LADS TIME TO LEAVE FOR A BIT
>>158881104
Any dragondeck need 3 forte to play in highers ranks seems to work well but you will have a lot of bad matchups
>>158881308
Old enough
I'm tempted to make a second account to reroll a forest deck.
It'll be quicker than actually getting one with the dailies.
can I just get all the boosters with my tickets or should I something else with them? (newfag here)
>>158881319
>>158881483
Don't be this much of a faggot, anon.
>>158881431
What's wrong, anon? We're always here. We're the Elite of 4chan.
THEY;RE MULTIPLYING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>Make a Control Sword list
Damn this deck is fun. I was never that into Sword but I'm loving this shit.
I don't have Otohimes or Tsubakis though, which should I craft for it first?
>>158881431
>>158881571
I'm just leaving anons shikarishirou
>>158881564
Open them all
>>158881564
Tickets are just for packs
And just for the specific pack they correspond to
>>158881564
you can only buy packs with those tickets
they're also specific to whatever kind of pack
so just spend them all
>gloatful over my win streak with tempo elf
>anally devasted when tempo elf wrecks me while i'm trying to do other classes' missions
i am such a hypocritical faggot
Is it a bad idea to spend my first 500 tittiebucks on the cute vampire skin instead of getting cards?
>Hacancraft is one of the only classes where it's best decks are cheap
>they're the best in the entire game
This is not gonna lead to a healthy meta
>>158881914
its your money
>>158881227
I dont think you need to do it at all.
I didnt know rerolling was a thing and got too invested in my account that opened 2 legendaries in its 40+ free packs.
Im sitting on 1.5 completed aggro decks and a little bit away from a Dshift deck with 2K gold in the bank and quite a few useless cards to disenchant that I havent sorted through yet.
>>158881083
Royal Banner to full field wipe
>>158881914
You get a lot of gold if you clear all the stories and elite AI, but IMO it's much better to buy packs now and save up for portraits.
>>158881863
Subscribed
>>158881914
no. vampy best skin
>>158881914
Vampy avatar win 60% more duels
>>158881976
>they're the best in the entire game
Nope.
The best decks are Forestcraft, and they're pricy since you need 5-6 legendaries and a ton of golds.
>>158880991
Faggot if you're going to tripfag you could at least be knowledgeable about the game. Are you repeating information you've seen on Reddit? There's no way you've been playing before the Steam release.
>>158881976
except Elf was is and will be the best in the entire game
>>158881431
And then anon never had to see any of that trash ever again.
>>158881983
>>158882004
>>158882023
>>158882082
wew
>>158882113
Fucking this.
It's bad enough he's tripfagging but his advice also sucks.
>>158882170
>nipple
Uhmm.
Drop hackers are the worst. Having to wait an extra 30-90 seconds because they threw a fit gets really old when it's every other game.
>>158882224
You did good kid now go get Forte.
>>158882170
>nipple
enjoy your ban
>really should start liquefying to get a decent deck going
>can't even get myself to liquefy skullfane
How do I get over this hurdle?
>>158882170
>you can see her ass crack and nipple
MODS!
FUCKING PEDOS LEAVE REEEEE
>>158882292
That's her elbow
>>158882170
>wanting any other leader for shadow when the default one is already the perfect semen demon
>>158881976
Can newshitters stop commenting on the meta
That would be great, thanks
>>158881104
its pretty good the cheap version isnt as good or consistant as my mid tempo sword but i made a sort of aggressive ramp deck that is working really nice got about a 85% winrate climbing from d1 to b3 and its fun but you can get btfo sometimes if you get 0 ramp early
>>158882113
>attentionwhore
>knowledgeable about the game
/0
>>158882330
Spend money.
>>158882341
lol
>>158882170
What do you have against Luna anon?
She's already qt as fuck
>>158882170
I want moon al mi'raj for havencraft!
>>158882330
become a whale or grind out dailys for literally 2 months.
If your on steam sell some stuff for steambux then use that
Which decks are actually dynamic to play?
I was looking at Spell runecraft but it looks like you basically function as a timelimit, winning if you can get to turn 8 or so without dying.
Which sounds monotonous
So, what rank do you have to get to for the monthly rewards? I heard they were just added.
>>158882170
>Luna OP nipples survived all day
The mods have spoken. Fuck Rita.
>>158882330
Tell yourself you don't need it
>>158882362
>>158882490
Luna is great but I like to change things up.
Also I know Rita a lot better
>Alternate forest leader isn't the elf from the tutorial
why?
>>158882660
Because thats Nexus
>>158882330
Don't.
I never liquify card unless they're duplicates. You don't need a meta deck in the early stages of the game, you can just use budget decks and slowly boost your collection.
I've been playing for 4 months now and I have DShift, Aggro Bat with Marys and Queen Vamps, Control Sword (almost), Seraph Haven, and Elana Haven, and Tempo Forest and PtP without ever liquifying cards unless they're duplicates, with the sole exception of shitty gold cards and shitty legendaries I have more than 1x of when I really want a deck. This game is really f2p friendly, you don't need to turbo your way towards a meta deck
tfw too intelligent to play aggro bats or banner craft
>>158882597
Actually I deleted it myself
>>158882543
having a lot of fun with the oliv ramp deck im running and its not very often the same plays as you have to change it up depending on what type of deck your facing, only downside is its expensive as fuck
>>158882224
>the threaten emote
>the evolve animation
best investment of my life
If you could turn any card into a neutral which would you pick?
>>158882751
Take off the fedora champ.
>>158882618
But Rita has a stupid little hat
Fuck that bitch and fuck her hat holy shit
>>158882589
3000 to 12000 score, they're in score achievements
>>158882751
to*
>>158882845
Aria
>>158882751
>Shitty /v/ memes leaking in
Welp, this general is going downhill
>>158870970
The hag has already told Isabelle about Luna, so Isabelle was specifically seeking her. Isabelle encounters someone who meets the description (a little girl talking to the dead, pretty distinctive), which is why she knows her identity. That is the whole point of the scene in Isabelle's storyline.
Did you even play the story, anon?
>>158882867
We can be friends, no need to get mean
>>158882948
Tripfags wasnt enough of a giveaway?
>>158882751
(You)
I got a all animated pack.
>>158882543
Tempo Elves, Earth Rune, anything Shadow.
>>158883013
That fucker was here before the Steam release, he just didn't have a trip on. I recognize his terrible grammar and awful opinions
>>158863125
My face when I'm the dude who jerks off to alternate win conditions and my intro packs have a Seraph and an animated Seraph in.
>>158882948
>too intelligent
>/v/ meme
first day and already trying this hard to fit in eh champ?
I'm actually sweating bullets as i dont know what to play, nor do i know which packs to buy or if i have enough vials for... well, anything.
Here are my legendaries, i enjoy playing swordcraft and havencraft but i wish i could play forest/runecraft too. But pretty sure those require 30k+ dust decks which isn't happening anytime soon.
What do i do?
>Using Nox to emulate
>First time, get three Atomy. Nothing else
>Reroll
>Prince of Darkness, Skullfane, Tsubaki
Not sure if I wanna reroll or not.
>>158882948
As does every community that gets exposed to steambabbies.
>>158883125
I release when i want desu baka senpai
>>158883087
Animated barrage fuck I'm jelly
>>158883104
>earthrune
>dynamic
???
>>158882330
I've been playing three weeks and I have a dshift, garuda, 90% elana, and decent decks in the other crafts. Never dusted a non-extra (not even soul dealer). You'll be fine.
Any good alternatives for Rhinoceroaches?
Currently I'm using 1x Gilgamesh and 2x Magna somethings
Stupid fucking Jap nip fuckers always being so goddamn good.
I hate this game.
>>158883087
>Animated
>Clearly a still image
Do you get anything when you complete a leader's story?
>>158883208
Sorry, but I've been here since the /mbgg/ days.
I don't post in many other places so if that shitty meme originated elsewhere, whatever. The point remains.
>>158883240
I don't know how long you've been playing but that is a very good start if you just began.
You can build Storm Haven or Aggro Blood really cheap, and you definitely have enough to afford likely both of them if you scrap the legendaries you ain't using in them, but you can probably get started on one otherwise just by playing casually and dusting extras for core.
>>158883442
Hilarious
>>158883240
standard packs are the core
DE packs add some nice cards but without standard cards its like trying to ride a bicycle without tires
>Went against aggro bat for the first time
>15 damage on her third turn
Wowie
>>158883402
Literally none.
Craft 3x Roaches or don't play Forest. Forest is not a budget-friendly class.
>>158883246
You do. You will regret it later when you realize how far behind you are because you didn't go for a proper reroll. You'd be forced into bannersword or aggro bats until you get lucky with tickets or spend money, which could be months from now.
>>158883261
>>158882948
>literally being a sekrit club bab on a sekrit club website
>waah waaah remember the good old days of 1 post per 7 minutes and waifu shitposting why are we actually on the front page now with occasional meaningful conversations waaaah
holy shit
you cannot make this shit up
no matter what SOMEBODY has to try to exclude others, act like an elitist because muh "oldfag" or complain about something
just fucking kys already you malignant tumor
>>158883483
Got a list for those? Also, ive been playing for uh like 3 days.
>>158883548
Ive opened like 50 standard packs by now, so i dont know how many else do i need.
>>158883402
there is literally none
just as there is no alternative to Ancient Elf, Liza or Tia
budget Elf doesnt work
>>158883464
an arena ticket
you also get gold, vials and some basic cards along the way
>>158883383
Earthrune has to make plenty of tempo decisions and figure out their aggro position in every match up. Might be able to flowchart it but games are pretty different depending on match up.
>>158881308
>>158883672
>expecting anything more from mongs
best thing to do is just roll with it m80
New thread:
>>158883910
>>158883386
Is spending all gold on rupees (after buying Forte the cutest) the way to go?
Post best 2 drops.
>>158883672
>Nice, pleasant community with not much shitposting except complaining about popular meta decks
>Steam release
>Shitposting increases tenfold, really stupid memes start cropping up, overall poster intelligence level drops dramatically
PC releases are always the worst thing to happen to a game community
>>158883985
>>158884164
Sorry, I dont even own a phone.
Usually generals are happy when they get an influx of new players, even if thread quality does nosedive temporarily.
>>158884164
>mobage elitism
don't you have some gacha to go broke on
Guys is there a way to play offline on ste*m?
>>158884770
>mobage
>implying
This happens to every fucking semi-popular game with a PC release ever.
Whenever anything becomes popular and the lowest common denominator retards start flooding in the community goes straight to shit.
>>158884164
This happens any time something gets ported somewhere.
Give it a bit and it'll die down.
>>158884509
So precious.
>>158884164
>muh super sekret club~!!!
Is there any way to make Satan dragon work? I want meme it so bad but it's just so fucking slow.
I know I can tweak it from face dragon but something is still missing. Draw power? Ramp?
whats the best poorfag deck?
>>158885306
Bannersword
Just went on a 18 game win streak with it.
>>158885420
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/royal-banner-swordcraft
This?
>>158885294
It probably takes more than a tweak to go from a face deck to the heaviest, latest wincon there is.
>>158885628
That one is fine too but the one I'm using is http://game-ai.jp/shadowverse/mihata-royal-gekikarazu/
>>158885683
True. Face dragon is direct attack plain and simple, but what's Satan? Turtle until you can call in satan?
If so, then there's a lot more tweaking to do..
>>158886003
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.4.62sZ2.62sZ2.62sZ2.5_394.5_394.5_38w.5_38w.5_38w.62sZM.62sZM.62sZM.62u_c.62u_c.62u_c.62v0O.62v0O.62v0O.5_4sI.5_4sI.5_4sI.62u_S.62u_S.62u_S.62u_m.62u_m.66j8S.66j8S.62xRs.62xRs.62vkA.62vkA.62vkA.61NLI.61NLI.61NLI.61SE6.61SE6.62sac.62sac.62sac
Gameplan: get Satan out ASAP. Dragon Emissary is a key card as it has a 50% chance to pull either Wyvern Cavalier or Satan. Leviathans and Grim Reapers are back-up plans being strong cards when overflow is active but don't cost more than 5 so they don't interfere with the Dragon Emissary tutoring.
>queue combo, play against aggro
>queue aggro, play against control
>queue control, play against combo
sometimes I wonder why I bother to make multiple decks when switching between them is such a suckers game
>>158885683
not really related to what you guys are talking about, but Leonidas is probably a heavier and slower wincon than Satan now.
It's like playing Satan except you actually need to Satan to die before you get your apocalypse deck.
Though in a Satan vs Leonidas showdown Leonidas would probably win unless the Leonidas user was at 7/8 hp with no wards.
should you always evolve as soon as you can or sometimes is it better to wait?
>>158888105
sometimes better to wait
>>158889019
what would be a situation where waiting would be better?