Why the fuck are you all dead edition
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>>158670853
>Atlas of Worlds information
general: https://www.pathofexile.com/atlasofworlds
atlas mechanics: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1714099
>2.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1716228
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt (embed)
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
D
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>>158672397
>FREE
>>158672654
>FREE
>>158673402
>free
>>158705441
>free
>>158705536
>FREE
>>158705819
>free
>>158711578
>FREE
>>158731451
>free
>>158732235
>free
>>158737884
>free
>>158747568
>free
>>158778446
>free
>>158818305
>free
poji
po-egg
???
CWDT Zerker best build.
>>158833134
leagues are too fuyckING LONG FUCKS SAKE AND they can't eveN GIVE US A DECENT ONE WEEK OR SOMETHIGN fucking ONE HOUR RACES GET FUCKED YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS NEW SKILLS DELAYED AGAIN(AGAIN) JSUT FUCKIOGNKOSFJFUCK OFF FUCKING NOTHGINE SLE TO PLAY FUCKIGN REEEEEEE
>>158834929
>new skills
>again
pls no
its time to stop
and look back
and realise you have a pile of shit the height of everest behind you, constisting of all the "old" stuff that you left unbalanced and unpolished
If I have avatar of fire does shit like physical to fire still work?
kys retard
>>158834929
>No different leagues for hardcore and softcore
>No race season
>New skills are just rehashes and delayed until next year
I mean, what the fuck is ggg doing? I know they have 500 artist and only 1 programmer but hell... when the game was small as fuck they managed to push a shitload of content but now they stagnated...
>tfw you are retarded and die a retards death
FEELS G O O D M A N
>>158835224
yes
Which is harder normal Atziri or Uber Lab?
>>158837115
nice AutoPot.ahk
>>158834574
>tfw d2 has day/night cycle + changing weather
>tfw d2 has dynamic lightning; spells and effects light up interiors and exteriors
>tfw d2 has no loading screens save for act travel
>tfw d2 has offline mode
>tfw d2 is fun
>>158837115
wasn't this build supposed to be immortal lmao
>>158837714
its immortal as long as you have enough hp to not get one shot
6k hp isnt enough
>>158837714
no. the build that I was following (I can't make builds for shit) specifically said that it wasn't HC viable, but I was doing it anyway. Obviously, this death had nothing to do with my build, but it wasn't a very safe build. You couldn't fit much HP with it and you take 10% increased damage from berzerker so it was inherently more scary.
But yeah as the other anon said as long as you don't get one shot and can leech it's pretty survivable because you get 100% leech from berzerker.
>>158837115
slowest bearers death I've ever seen unfold
are you quite literally retarded?
>>158839796
But anon he was busy le epically switching his meme gem in
:^)
https://clips.twitch
.tv/ziggydlive/StormyOysterKappa
our guy died again...
>>158840002
i hope you picked up that assassin's garb
>>158840219
>ripping his shavs in a tier 2 map
Bravo
Bravissimo
>>158840502
it's a shaped oasis so technically it was t7
What exactly does sword+shield Izaro do? 2h sword is the slash and mace is the slam. Is shield izaro the weakest?
>>158840569
I don't recall a "2h sword" izaro, sword izaro is sword+shield and likely the most dangerous because his slash has little windup
:^)
>>158840710
Yeah that's what I meant
>open a cocoon
>exalted drops
nice
why can't we have more fun leagues and races like increased drop rate, exp, pack size etc?
>>158843710
>PoE
>fun
>>158843710
Because fun does not generate money.
People only buy stuff when they're miserable, happy people don't need to inflate their ego with mtx, they're already happy.
>>158843710
because that's not fair to people who can't participate in races? if you're talking about short events that are then voided, that's pretty much what descent races here
>>158843710
Because if you're having fun, you're satisfied.
Gotta keep you frustrated and running for that great piece of loot that will never come. Because if it ever comes, you'll just quit.
>>158843710
but essence is an increased drop rate league
you get literally FREE chaos orbs
so how much is this staff worth in it's current state and how much would it be worth if I spent hundreds of fusings and swear words trying to link it?
>slam an essence of envy on a marble amulet
>+44% damage roll
gained 1.2k ED tooltip!
>>158845195
7 jeweller's
so i'm thinking a bladevortex chieftian marauder that converts most of the damage to fire with a 40% kaoms, 2 decent doryianis and atziri fire belt and vaal pact.
think this will work?
>playing burn FB elementalist
>happen to corrupt vaal temple map
>tfw Monsters cannot be affected by Elemental Status Ailments
fucking game
Newbie here, can someone explain to me how the "Endless Hunger" node in the slayer ascendancy works?
>Life Leech effects are not removed at Full Life
So does this mean that your leech simply continues to heal you even if you have full life, so if you get damaged while you're still leeching, you regain that life? or does that leech get saved until the next time you take damage?
>>158847115
the first one
>>158846931
maybe
>>158845195
crit staff with no crit mods
>>158847115
>effects are not removed at full life
your first guess is correct
>>158847038
same problem that LL/CI builds run into with bloodmagic rolls on maps
yeah it's irritating, just toss the map in guildbank and take a different one out
>>158847038
>what is Elemental Focus
>>158839796
was looking at my inventory the whole time, I didn't even realize I was fighting a blue pack let alone bearers.
to simulate what I saw, stare literally only at the bottom right of the inventory. couldn't see shit through my CWDT spells that automatically killed the pack and the skeletons from the shrine.
>>158840219
nice use of those physical mitigation flasks
>>158852113
he got off screened
Anyone to play the MU Legend cbt with me?
>>158852219
>>158852328
no and stop posting here
>>158852437
This is the only arpg general though. Gotta talk about diablo 4 at blizzcon too.
>>158852113
is there any build whatsoever where one of those isn't pretty much mandatory?
20% is just too fucking huge, especially on big hits where armor is completely uselessI prefer ++charges and curse removal or bleed removal on mine
>>158852219
Are you fucking retarded?
>convocation doesn't work on skellies
there goes my meme build
>>158852856
my jade of reflexes gives me 12k armour and consumes fewer charges
you do the math, but there's a generous breakpoint where this is better than 20% pdr
>tfw you fell for the "farm uber lab" meme
So grinding red maps is really the only way to make currency in this game?
>>158854525
prophecies are the best way to make currency.
>jewellers touch
>monstrous treasure
>astramentis prophecy
>pale council keys
the list can go on
>>158854525
you either can't do a 4-key run in <10 minutes or your build simply sucks
>>158854431
he's alluding to kripp, but he's not funny
>>158854679
i can consistently do 4 key runs in about 12 minutes. but it doesn't matter how many keys i get, the treasure boxes just give me useless div cards, blacksmith whetstones, and worthless rares.
>>158854525
uber lab is retardedly profitable, I think I made 3000c-ish this league just off enchanted hubris and then there's the actual treasure drops which was also good but not as good as hitting a good helm enchant.
It's probably shit if you cant run it fast enough though.
>>158854854
if you can't make mad currency with 4*5 chests per hour, you're either the unluckiest person on the planet or lying through your teeth
either way, kys retard
have they announced the competitive race yet?
>plays casual game
>thinks there's competitive anything
catshitter can't even win casual races LOL
How come PoE has constant threads while being as dead as diablo and the inferior game?
>>158855342
it attracts a core of dedicated autists with nothing else to do
this is my demi
there are many like it
but this one is mine
>>158855342
build depth means there's replayability to be found
plus the whole updates thing
d3 hasn't had a system change in years
this is my other demi
there are many like it
but this one is mine
>>158855495
>#11
that's only 8 places below bronze LOL no big deal
>>158855536
Sure but the game is super boring so replayability isnt really that good.
whats the point of 3 month leagues when its usually dead after the first month?
>>158855970
some people have jobs and can't play 12 hours a day like you, retard
>>158855970
It gives the devs time to make more content for the next league. They can't make a full expansion every month.
If leagues were 1 month followed by 2 months of nothing, the game would be even deader.
>>158855970
Because if it ends in a month people would say it was too short and complain they couldnt do a proper build in time? At least how it feels for d3.
>>158855767
i was rank 6rd before the last day and then psyren and his group passed me because they mapped for 30 hours straight
you got outplayed retard, stop finding excuses for not even being able to break top 10
look, assface, i had to map all day every day with three literal GIRLS who were hormonal bitches and constantly stopped to ERP with each other FOR AN ENTIRE MONTH and i had to DEAL WITH IT because nobody else within the top 20 needed a support
do you think that was easy? i wanted to pull my hair out every day. i finally said fuck this and left their group with only a few days left of the race and that's when psyren passed me. if i had stayed in that group i would have gotten top 5 EASILY
if you think it's easy to play this game 18 hours a day doing lvl78 maps with a shitty 7 year old PC that never gets more than 10fps then you are mistaken, PAL
it was hard as fuck and i hated it and i'll never do it again. i felt empty when i received my're demi
a demi that is not rank 1 is not even a demi
>>158856759
Is everyone in poeg this autismal?
>>158856759
wow! LITERAL girls?!
>>158856960
these threads are actually a lot better than they used to be
>>158833134
can i run this game on a potato pc?
>>158856960
obviously not
>>158856759
>with a shitty 7 year old PC
fuck you and fuck everyone like you - you fucking poorfag cocksuckers just have to play multiplayer games and shit all over everyone else's load times instead of sticking to single player games where scum like you belong
>>158857345
you can, but it will make you and anyone you play with miserable - see above
Does poacher's mark work with spell attacks?
Only took 700 fusings to finally fucking link my 6-link bow for end-game. If everyone had my luck fusings would be worth more than exaults .....
>>158856759
>being a support cuck is an achievement
lol retarded piece of shit NEET stop breathing already
Anyone here remember and miss the diablo 2 generals and the vg server?
>Look up Taming
>Cost a truckload
>Look up Berek's Pass and Grip
>1C
>Look up Respite
>There aren't any on EHC or ESC
What the fuck?
how much flat +% damage is equal to 350% crit and 150% crit multi on a base 6.5% crit weapon?
>>158857728
anyone that still cared about diablo 2 after 2002 is a retard, so no
>>158857913
(.065*(1+3.5))*(1.5+1.5) assuming perfect accuracy
>>158858325
>(.065*(1+3.5))*(1.5+1.5)
0.8775
So 877% wtf? how can non-crit builds even compete
>>158858445
non crit builds are for safety (don't instagib to reflect) and reliability (no need to stack accuracy)
obviously crit is going to have significantly higher potential damage output
>>158858092
Underage.
>>158854525
You wot m8
Uberlab is insanely profitable no matter what you do with it. Even if you can't hit any profit enchants, getting 20+ keys per hour will make you gorillions of chaos. It's how I fund my builds every league.
look up expected value
>>158858325
accuracy is capped at 95% you retard
>>158858870
no one that played diablo 2 before 2002 is underage, casual gamer
>>158859530
Yeah and you're not one of those people, toddler.
>>158859156
Not if you're PF CI BV
>>158856064
then just play standard :)
>>158859996
>how much flat +% damage is equal to 350% crit and 150% crit multi on a base 6.5% crit weapon?
>on a base 6.5% crit weapon?
learn to read, retard
>>158860092
PF CI BV benefits from crit too and can maintain 100% permanently without any accuracy
I swear to god, if GGG severely nerfs essences or drastically decreases their spawn rates for future leagues, I will stop playing this game forever.
Essences are exactly what this game needed. They function as extra loot, they make leveling easier, it makes the game more enjoyable for newer players, and it even encourages people to buy more stash tabs.
If GGG fucks this up, I will have no choice but to assume they absolutely have no idea what the fuck they're doing, or are purposefully trying to fuck over players.
>>158860332
it's a beta
>>158860220
not what was discussed, retard
>"How much life regen should I need on this Chieftain?"
>"HURRRRRRRRRRR BUT PF CI BV DOESNT NEED LIFE REGEN AND IS BETTER HURRRRRRRRR"
>>158860481
To be fair he has a point. If you're not playing pf ci bv, you've already made a critical mistake.
>>158860332
>purposefully trying to fuck over players.
they've been this since forever. anything we complain about they make it worse
>>158859830
You're so precious. You probably weren't even alive when Diablo 2 ads were all over television, enticing casuals with O Fortuna to play their casual hack and slash game.
How do they make money if the game is free and quite dead?
>>158860738
>play more
>need more stash tabs
>YOU CAN ONLY BUY STASH TABS
it's a clever little jewish scheme that works for them
i was unironically 10 when d1 came out
>>158860332
Essences should go, because they fucked up and made spell bows and decay weapons. They also trivialize the manufacture of ES gear.
They'll keep them though, because GGG only makes bad decisions.
>>158860697
You should do what the man in your reaction image did.
>>158860880
>Essences should go, because they fucked up and made spell bows and decay weapons. They also trivialize the manufacture of ES gear.
Then those things should just be nerfed. What matters is having the essences as abundant as possible. Their advantage lies in leveling and making decent gear. If they take that away the leveling process will be severely painful again.
>>158860862
>not being 10 ironically
>>158860862
lmao you old shiti was 9
>>158860332
>Essences are exactly what this game needed.
People said the same thing about Cadiro. I'd hate to be a GGG dev because you can't even experiment giving players anything for free without them crying and threatening to quit if you take it back or tone it down later on. Just uninstall right now you cancerous little shit
>>158860880
Just nerf decay then
Spell bows are fine
>>158860332
I don't disagree with your argument, essences have allowed me to completely ignore the shitty excuse for "trading" that POE has so far this league - with the exception of a handful of build-defining uniques that have 0.0001% droprates or someshit
unfortunately, that's also the exact reason they're either going to remove it completely, or only put it as a map mod (defeating the entire fucking purpose) after the league is over
they have consistently and repeatedly said and taken action to "force" people to trade, for whatever fucking reason that only they know
>they have absolutely no idea what the fuck they're doing
you nailed it
>>158860880
>spell bows and decay weapons
balance/nerf pass you stupid nigger, don't remove the entire goddamn system because of literally 2 or 3 problematic items
>trivialize the manufacture of ES gear
and? dodge/eva was super strong for a while, then armor was super strong for a while, then healthstacking was (and still is) super strong for a while, now ES is super strong - shit changes all the time, and again, all that might be needed is a simple balance/nerf pass
>>158860481
You seem upset anon
>>158861205
If you keep spell bows, then Soul Strike is going behind the shed.
Guys I quit the game during beta because you couldnt bind move to the scroll wheeel. Its been enough years, can I do it now?
>>158861390
p-please don't touch soulstrike
i use it in a life/ev/es grandspectrum/doomfletch build that i spent 50ex total on
>>158861519
as in wheelup/wheeldown? no
as in wheelclick? yeah
>>158861760
This is stupid.
>>158861907
you're stupid, just use AHK to rebind middleclick to mwheel if you really need to, dipshit
is there a new version of hud
>>158862680
Shut up stupid.
>>158844848
I'm surprised they're not in the shitter right now.
People are just too stupid I guess.
If a castlevania arpg came out right now and the only way to play it is to uninstall PoE, would you? Keep in mind that if you try playing without uninstalling PoE you die instantly irl.
>>158863612
no because PoE is the best arpg in the whole world!!!
>>158863612
why do i suspect that when you say arpg you mean diablo clone
>>158864116
I dont understand this post. PoE is a diablo clone for example. Arpg means arpg.
Ummm poetards?
>>158863612
Yeah, sure.
It's easy enough to reinstall Path of Exile.
what do you do when nothing interesting has been uploaded to sadpanda today and you don't wanna fap to the same shit you've fapped to 20 times already
>>158865476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTBjUJuTua4
>>158865319
No castlevania arpg kills all other games and PoE is deleted from the world.
>>158865476
Go find something new.
Or ask on /h/ for suggestions.
Or ask /vg/. What you into, friend?
And what is your build is PoE currently?
>>158865476
Expand your interest
>>158865641
>Changing the rules
Path isn't that great, despite being the best we got.
So I'll take the dive.
>>158865808
Diablo 3 is better, even though each season is only playable for a month.
>>158865663
/h/ is terrible I haven't been on that board for years
I like vanilla cute stories, gyarus, tomboys and insect girls, anything that isn't too weird and or with overly exaggerated art
ED scion
>>158866070
>D3 is better than PoE
Do we have a good bait image related to Path of Chris Wilson and his fucking Fishing Poles?
>>158866280
>resorting to memes because you cant prove me wrong
>>158866280
This isn't 2013 anymore, the only who will still defend this game here are the paid shills
Even the 120fps autist quit
>>158866070
diablo 3 doesn't even have that good combat
and it has shit itemization and art
there's nothing left
>>158866582
>>>/d3g/
this is your home, stay there
oh wait, you don't even have a homeless you stupid hobo gen hopping faggot
>>158866803
PoE is the ugliest arpg ever made and d3 has way better combat lmao.
>>158866916
>so mad he can't even type coherent english anymore
I haven't played D3 since before Reaper of Souls btw.
>>158867030
>wow art
>cooldowns
whoops into the trash it goes
>>158867070
shut up b1tch
the fact you played d3 for even a minute cements you as a retard
>>158867098
Yes, and still better than PoE. It's sad really.
>>158867214
so why are you still here
>>158867359
Because I can.
>>158867359
you aren't playing the game and you're here
>>158867585
you can be a cancerous shit in a general of a game you find inferior to another
great mentality, chump
fucking d3 refugees shitting up the place because mom told them they could
>>158867751
The only one being cancerous here is you.
>>158867214
poe is primitive but has much better taste
diablo is offensively uninteresting
in poe you can at least look at a golden mosaic wall pattern or something and feel that you don't just exist in a endless nightmare void of recycled korean digital art memes
>>158867823
excellent rebuttal, blizzdrone
>>158867741
i'm theorycrafting my next build in the offline planner
this is me brainstorming the next botw
not something a d3 refugee would ever do for his character
>>158867921
Stay mad.
>>158868129
I'm curious, what could you possibly make that would qualify as Build of the Week?
>>158868129
sure thing m8
these threads have diehard losers that quit playing after two weeks and never leave
and you're barking up the wrong tree with d3
that game was the depth of cookie clicker
>>158868175
mad at what
we have catshitter, this general is no stranger to cancer
you're barely a malign tumor compared to him, retard
>>158868337
Mad at yourself for embarrassing yourself. Keep doing it.
>>158868549
LOL okay reddit
>Attempt to buy a Meginord's Girdle
>Out of 10 people, I get 1 reply "t4t"
What the fuck.
PoE needs to add a tertiary zone to create characters in, that gives access to level 100, all gems at all levels, all equipment in your chest across normal/league, infinite respecs, and the ability to spawn dummies of various levels
kind of like the pvp-only characters that nobody fucking creates, but for theorycrafting builds instead
>>158869128
But then nobody would play the game because they can just give themselves everything and experience whatever they want.
>>158869128
>>>/d3g/
and stay there
>1-month flashback never
>>158869219
>>158869237
>area specifically for theorycrafting builds
>ability to spawn training dummies
>"nobody will play the game"
Jesus fuck, what's wrong with you? It'd be something like 3 or 4 connected rooms with various interactive items that allow you to get equipment, gems, spawn the dummy, etc - nothing more.
Completely separate from the rest of the game, just like the fucking pvp-only characters.
>>158869430
>Wouldn't even have an All Mods Active event anymore cause GGG is too pussy to throw everything at its players even for a temp for-fun League
>>158865476
>>158866097
Branch out a little maybe
>>158869513
they just hate us and refuse to give us anything fun to do and don't want to fix problems
>>158869513
GGG can't allow all-mods to happen because it causes an increased drop in player retention after the game turns back to its normal, boring state and nobody wants to continue playing afterwards.
It LITERALLY is a case of player having too much fun.
>>158869503
It's an actual phenomena. Give players cheats and even though they know they aren't experiencing the actual game they'll quit playing anyway
>>158869513
You actually think their servers can handle that?
>>158869767
prophecy was just a garbage lead and would have flopped regardless
the perandus flashback race was a lot of fun and i want to do another one. i tried to win four separate demis that race. poopsocked super hard. challenge leagues are boring by comparison. there are some serious issues with this game
>>158869503
the ability to plan, and devise a build concept is arguably one of the major appeals of poe
if you're too retarded and need a tabula and infinite respecs to throw shit at the wall until something sticks, go play d3
Is it couple ex good?
>>158869503
>oh wow this build is amazing fun I can't wait to level it
and then it took 20 hours until it actually was that fun and you quit playing halfway through in disappointment
Tell me how awful of an idea this is.
>Elementalist with Mastermind, Pendulum, and Liege
>CI with a bunch of ES
>stack the shit out of elemental damage bonuses
>pick up a pair of super fast rapiers/corsair swords with tons of flat elemental damage
>run fire + lightning golems
>run all three elemental heralds
>stack flat elemental damage, wed, and ES on gear
Elemental Hit + Faster Attacks + Melee Splash + Multistrike + WED + increased aoe/conc (bosses)
Could this potentially make Elemental Hit not fuckawful?
Mastermind effectively gives you (if I'm reading the Elemental Hit gem right) permanent 25% penetration for all elements, the golems add 40% to each element, the heralds add a bunch after all the percentage bonuses, you attack rapidly, and your attacks are AOE.
>>158870776
No. The idea is retarded because you still have to walk up to bosses to hit them.
If you have to lock onto a name and be standing right next to them to do anything, it'd shit.
>>158870776
>increased aoe/conc
not how it works
linking a non-aoe skill to melee splash doesn't magically make it aoe and thus supportable by aoe supports
elemental hit, not fucking elemental shockwave
>>158871209
it does you fucking retard
>>158871572
it would only affect the aoe component of melee splash, not the initial hit itself which would receive no damage multiplier from conc effect
you're fucking retarded if you cannot understand this, this is game mechanics 101
do you think people link conc effect to flicker too?
>>158871783
you're not the one to lecture me about game mechanics after you said inc aoe won't work on a gem supported by melee splash
kys
>>158872026
>increased aoe/conc (bosses)
here's the relevant part, you fucking retard
oh great you swapped in conc for bosses? real fucking useful, your damage is still the same, except you splash harder, wow what a smart swap in
take yourself, and your pathetic elemental meme build back to shitcore, where you belong you dumb fucking SHIT
>>158872329
>linking a non-aoe skill to melee splash doesn't magically make it aoe and thus supportable by aoe supports
What are the easier Izaro stuffs? Today's Izaro fight is annoying.
>>158870346
I'd think it's a lot of c not a couple ex.
>>158872484
the skill itself is not supported
which is not to say other supports can't affect other supports, similar to WED and added X supports
you're retarded, end of the line, sorry I can't spell everything out so you miss out on the obvious
>>158872683
i find it funny how you didn't know splash allows aoe supports to affect a gem and then tried to save face by claiming it's about semantics and not your lack of knowledge
but luckily it's an anonymous forum so nobody will remember it's you who's so retarded, my friend
run a two week fun race chris or you'll have to mortgage your kidneys
>>158873029
no, I pointed out the relevant part (conc effect) would essentially be a useless support vs single target for obvious reasons and you were the one trying to save face b-b-b-b-ut it will affect melee splash like who give a shit retard? people swap in conc when they use an AoE skill, not a skill augmented by melee splash which doesn't make the skill itself magically AoE with an AoE base to be augmented/scaled in the first place you stupid fuck
>your lack of knowledge
ok conc effect elemental hit retard
can't wait for inevitable dx12 client crash hardcore deaths
>>158873708
>dx12
isn't this game still on dx9
>>158873630
>n-no u!!!!!!
you seem buttblasted pretty hard, lad :^)
>>158873708
it's hard to find excuses now that desync is gone to justify your shitter deaths
>>158873889
yeah retards with no understanding of game mechanics who try to debate me based on their shitty theorycrafted shit build really trigger me
get a trip so i can filter out your stupidity
>>158873916
client already crashes sometimes loading effects, and has since nemesis, so it wouldn't be that hard
going to be pretty funny watching streamers flip their shit
I've got Death's Door, what's a great Juggernaut build?
>>158874261
it's actually a pathfinder unique
>>158860862
>>158861160
FUCKING OLDFAGSI was 1
>>158874349
No it's not, Pathfinder gets free remove bleeding on flask use why use Death's Door.
>>158875146
not every pathfinder build uses master surgeon's, gives you an easy +1 ec for a right side class (putting you at 4x5 = 20 % pdr with merc oak + 30% from a basalt), and the downside is entirely negated by master alchemist
it's nothing extraordinary for juggernaut, going from 8-10 to 9-11 ec is nothing special and bleeding is rarely an issue when you have 8-10 ec in the first place
>>158875465
>not every PF build uses master surgeon's
the whole reason BV is used with PF is because it crits like mad 10% to gain flask charge on Crit? If you're critting 20 times a second multiplied by each mob you have 100% uptime on flasks or even just against bosses because flask duration is OP too
Unless you can link me some PF BV build for it I doubt it's used for PF
>>158875862
not every pathfinder uses BV or crit or master surgeon
master herbalist is a 7th poison link, use your imagination
So how shitty is melee to play in a fresh league? I've only experienced it with the leveling uniques
it's better but still not as good as spells
blade vortex is melee
What kind of price range am I looking at to stack enough auras to take advantage of Commander of Darkness?
>>158840219
Dual curse shavs unused flasks t2 map
Perfect
>>158881014
20c
>>158881014
call me slowpoke but each individual aura grants +10damage /+5 cast speed? I thought it was global like the 20% res
>>158881851
the resist is global but the damage/cs/as stack
>>158881851
the wording is specifically different for this reason
each aura = 10% damage / 5% attack/cast speed
x auras = 20 all res no matter what
support necros are a thing because of commander of darkness and low-life aura stacking
>/poeg/ tells me that the Atlas is a shit gimmick
>spend all league grinding maps normally
>finally decide to explore the atlas
>actually start to havefun
Well thanks for ruining this league for me, /poeg/. I would have enjoyed it a lot more if I started into the atlas early on.
>>158882226
Retard
>>158882226
does mapping normally for you mean just doing tier 1 maps for two months
>>158881987
>>158882041
I was not aware. That's neatoI see this getting nerfed because guardian's supposed to be the support :^)
>>158882951
necro isn't better than guardian, just better for offensive support
>>158882951
Guardian is better for defensive stuffs.
Give me just 1 reason to play a life based melee character.
>>158883980
It'sfun
>>158883980
the attack speed and damage is on the strength and life side
>>158883980
it's cheap
you're not a meta cuck
you can use blood rage easily
endurance charges are quite good
getting high dps requires little investment
Is there another good place to use a 2nd Energy from Within jewel other than near that pain attunment node?
Anyone else playing on a laptop have have the issue of it sometimes shutting down when playing POE? I don't have that with any other game and i can play those for hours without any issues. I also don't think it's a heat issue, since it gets quite hot with other games too, but doesn't shut down.
>>158883980
Easier to gear, life gear with some resists is way cheaper than stacking ES with resists. Not only that but two-tone boots and Astral plate if you want rares give easy resists. Solid unique choices for weapons and leveling uniques.
>>158883980
give me 1 reason why you're not playing the meta pf ci bv build?
>gaming on a laptop
rofl i bet you game on wifi too
lol
>>158884838
>it's cheap
i'm currently trying the lacerate/starforge build. i mean, you propably don't *need* starforge, but the build overall is rather expensive for some that doesn't play hardcore endgame all day.
>>158884840
The Witch jewel socket, with the 3 life nodes and 3 mana nodes? But I wouldn't bother, Energy from Within is only to make that Life/ES cluster better. I'd rather get damage on a jewel in that socket.
Would this be any good for a Molten Strike Juggernaut?
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Obscurantis
>>158884840
near melding:
(8-12) + 2 + (25+15)% es for 6 points (counting the extra int node leading to the jewel slot)
= 8.33-9% es per point
witch jewel:
(8-12) + 20 + 16% es for 7 points (not counting the extra int node leading to the jewel slot as you would pick it anyway)
= 6.3-6.9% es per point
witch slot is less efficient but still above average if you really want to stack es
>>158884898
i shut down poe manually when my laptop starts to overheat
happens very often those days
>>158885342
not really, scaling half of your attack damage doesn't sound very smart, and if you stack accuracy, you want to go crit but there are no good ways to scale crit for melee except staves and if you go staff there are straight up better skills than molten strike
>Kiara's Determination is 2+ ex on EHC
how in the fuck? I would have vendored this shit if it wasn't for my loot filter marking it as an extremely rare and valuable drop
>>158886946
>ES builds are suicidal on HC without stun reduction/immunity
>Everyone's doing ES builds
>>158887218
there is no way it's worth a flask slot when you can deal with stun with smart itemization and freeze is just a flask suffix away from being a non issue
what builds uses a kiara?
Flasks were a mistake.
>>158887402
>there is no way it's worth a flask slot when you can deal with stun with smart itemization
One item slot is way more useful than a flask slot, even on a pathfinder.
>freeze is just a flask suffix away
So that's one less unique flask you can have anyway. Might as well get stun immunity+freeze immunity (plus then you don't need the pathfinder node for elemental status immunity) and onslaught to top it off.
>>158887515
so were full rejuvenations
Neat.
I'm running a summoner build, and I've got some questions regarding equipment and some other things.
>is midnight bargian + mon'tregul's grasp retarded
>is vis mortis any good
>i'm pretty out of slots for skills so should i dump convocation, vaal summon skeletons, or chaos golem
>what's the best aura combo and how many could i viably stack at once
>should i dump spectres entirely considering only zombies will be getting a 6l as i'm planning on running a build with two wands
I'm only starting Cruel, so I have some time to undo any fuckups I could have possibly made so far. Here's the skilltree I've got so far for reference, but I've mainly been focusing on getting all of the minion nodes during Normal.
>poeurl.com/Pti
>>158870346
the only people who would use this are spellcasters who go life. No one will pay more than 10c for that because life is shit for the northern part of the tree
any way to make emberwake incinerate viable?
i like the theory behind it but its just so shit.
"Today, Wraeclast offers me a new life, written not by birth, nor family, nor society. This life will be written to answer but one question: Who am I?" "
shaved my head for the first time in 2 months
feels better than an exalt drop!!
>>158897246
nice blog post retard
>>158897605
thanks
i liked his blog post. most interesting post in the past few hours
Is there any build planner that allows us to choose which gear to use?
>>158898709
the one linked in the OP
you fucking retard
>>158898709
the offline planner has some ability to do stuff with items, you can import gear or something but i haven't used it.
>>158899213
The one in the OP is ultra shit and only allow you to import gear you own
rate this may may
reddit/10
GGG on top on the meme meta
i love this company!!!
>>158900571
>not posting it
>>158900801
hiroshima ate my picture
anyway great memes from GGG!
>>158900894
>buy ssd stocks reduce performance
>extend labyrinth
>nerf glacial hammer
>buff ignite
made me laugh
blizzard getting btfo
>>158900801
>panda themed expansion
banter
MoP killed WoW
>>158901527
legion brought back illidan
>>158900801
>Wearing a shirt for your own game
Why would anyone willingly do this? It's like going on stage while wearing your band's shirt. So tacky.
>>158901702
Leftover t shirts get given to the rest of the staff, so they're regularly seen being worn at the office.
i have put so many hours into this game and am still so so terrible that i want to cry
>>158900801
might want to see a doctor about that skin condition
I have the most level 100 HC chars in the entire game and guarantee I will not receive an act 5 beta invite. Chris Wilson sucks nigger dick
>>158902986
why would they invite a dumb nigger
>>158902986
the last thing they want from a beta tester is a feeling of entitlement you retard
>>158902986
based
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Doomfletch%27s_Prism
does this bow scale off of +phys nodes?
isn't that bit OP if it does?
I have over 50 passive points spent towards life points alone(which won't even get me 7k life). 5k Armour, 17-35k evasion, 75% dodge, 48% spelldodge, cannot be affected by status ailments, does not take extra damage from crits - blind with almost 100% uptime from stibnite, good leech and often heal to full on multistrike crits because atziri's gloves.
Do you think endgame gives a shit? Nah, still oneshot combos all over the place because one-shot balance.
I despise the oneshot endgame balance so much it is absolutely a bad design goal for an ARPG, but people here will just fucking claim it's all good - then proceed to play builds with skills or overpowered things waiting to be nerfed that will trivialize the game and then they come here on forum telling you some builds can do it so it is fine, when in fact the builds that reliable do it are laming builds abusing things that will be nerfed for doing exactly what people use them for - rolling over content without challenge. Defenses? hah fuck em just go CI stack pool and maximize dps/instant leech so you are protected against oneshots and will fully heal instantly you take any damage. Good endgame balance huh fuck all the defenses they put in the game 70% cannot be counted on in any way whatsoever and it mostly comes down to the oneshot balance - that leaves most defenses only super useful against trash content.
>>158903451
Yes.It is OP.
>>158903451
Phys nodes are extremely inefficient for Doomfletch considering the bow's atrocious base phys damage. Sources of flat phys scale extremely well however, but this turns your build into a gear-based one rather than a tree-based one which limits your dps ceiling if you can't afford say, two well-rolled steel rings.
>>158903461
How do you balance an ARPG though? It's not like ARPG's are balanced around skillful play and dodging because Devs are too lazy to make interesting fights and even those can become quite tedious - like Izaro. Or do you just let the player steamroll content and have fun like any other game or do you let the raging hardcore autists scream and have their way? Or do you have a scaling difficulty like Infinite Ledge to determine when your build stops instead of 1-shot stuff.
>>158903461
my favorite part of this retarded game is running a crit build and getting killed to reflect to monsters that are offscreen
what you said is all true. this game is literally so good in theory and yet so bad in execution and practice.
>heres a huge passive tree
>pay your life tax
>heres a bunch of meaningless stat nodes
>its also expensive to respec XD
>most interesting skill mechanic maybe ever in an rpg
>revolves around literally just creating one overpowerd skill
>most builds can do 90% of content with 1 button
>we have such an interesting endgame!
>literally consists of content that requires abusing and or legally exploiting game mechanics to get millions of dps and huge survivability
>every other non-autistic non-copycat build caps out at tier 12
>lockboxes are so interesting XD
>have fun 50% of them freeze you
>spawning of huge numbers of monsters frame lags you to death
any BY FAR MY FAVORITE GGG MEME is the following
>be phys damage critbow
>roll physical reflect on every map, and it appears everywhere
>never seen an elemental reflect mod in my life
respec to full elemental
>elemental reflect mods everywhere
this is literally artificial difficulty: the game
>>158834543
Po-jen
>>158904851
how mad can one person get?
>>158905078
>Legitimate criticism = lol u mad
Why even bother at this point?
>>158903970
wait so just get phys damage on gear and use ele nodes? or what...
i'm confused...
why the fuck does hte base phys damage matter, you're getting 400% value out of every node you take on the tree....
>>158905265
You scale phys but the scaling alone is meaningless without flat damage to triple or quadruple what you get from the bow itself
>>158903970
>Phys nodes are extremely inefficient for Doomfletch considering the bow's atrocious base phys damage.
you're a fucking retard that doesn't understand how the build works
please kill yourself, you're disgracing us and we were already pretty low before your post
>>158904851
Offscreen reflect needs to fucking die\
Lockboxes were fixed
Most builds are meant to cap at lvl 90 and cap at tier 12 yes
I agree that skill spamming is a problem. I think GGG should implement more skills that complement each other, but in a very broad way that still allows you a breadth of options of skill choices.
It is well known that your DPS is known to the system and the game will roll mods that make it harder.
>>158905265
increased phys is bad because even if you get 100% increased phys, that's only 40 more phys damage, because the bow damage is low to begin with. When you can get 20 phys on a single ring. Assumedly increased phys would be more valuable the higher your base phys is though so i dunno.
>>158905752
>Most builds are meant to cap at lvl 90 and cap at tier 12 yes
prove it
>>158905265
You get 400% value out of phys nodes, but they're scaling a base weapon that has much less power than a high rolled phys bow or other unique, which evens it out. You don't get more value from a phys node; it will increase your dps just as much as it would increase the dps of another bow (%-wise) given the same level of increased damage already taken. Flat phys gear, however, is worth 4x as much as it would be for any other build
How do the aura passives affects the auras? Does it work for vaal auras? Is it just a flat % increase to all stats? With lv20 and with 20% increase in passives:
303 ES > 363.6 ES for Discipline
36% > 43.2% for Hatred
908 ES > 1089.6 ES for Vaal Disc
This seems a bit OP.
>>158906801
yes, it works that way
Does Commander of Darkness still affect your minions even if you don't get the boost yourself due to Generosity?
>>158907838
yes
>>158907838
maybe
>>158907838
i don't even play this game
>>158891496
Anyone?
>>158891496
Just re-do your hotkeys after your cast your auras and golem(s) (and spectres).
You're gonna have a bad time trying to do damage with just zombies.
>red maps never drop
help, 79/126 on Atlas, no reds will drop, still on t10
Call you're ISP
>>158917356
>79/126
Definitely not enough
>>158917627
>BV
can curse on hit support two curses?
>>158918469
if you have + 1 curses, yes.
>>158907838
Can you repeat the question?
>>158919217
You skipped "I don't know" you fucking retard.
>>158917356
Hey you stupid fuck the bonus only makes the maps drop higher level its dogshit i have 79% bonus and only 1 map t10-15 (shaped) unlocked and I chain my few shaped layouts all day.
>>158918469
yup, doing an arc with temp chains+ vuln, it chains, shocks and does a ton of damage with ED
>>158918125
shut up shitcrow
When will GGG hire hot girls to promote this game like
>>158651576
>>158920351
They do we got staceily paws and zizarian
>>158920449
None of them are sluts though
>>158920534
Paws is actually I fucked her in the ass back in talisman
>>158920351
Bex is all they need
>tfw minion builds make it basically impossible to get more than one treasure key from izaro
>>158920351
>>158920351
>get attractive women for ads
>same ugly game
ok autists: what is the difference between "converts X to Y damage" and "converts X to Y damage on target" or is it just kiwidoublespeak?
What are some softcore life benchmarks for each difficulty?
>>158927974
All you need is cast on death-phase run
>>158927974
cast on death -- portal --discharge
>>158927974
i dunno like
1k normal act4
3k cruel act 4
4-5k maps
6k+ late maps
>>158900801
Div cards only dropping in twilight strand would be great. Finally less trash in my stash as I collect 1/8th of a chaos
>>158921536
If you run the lab more than once to get your points in the current year you might want to consider suicide
has anyone here killed shaper in hc
hard mode: while not being a bv ci pf cuck
>>158930427
>while not being a bv ci pf cuck
I'm abv LL pfcuck :^)
>>158930427
i killed myself in hc
does that count
>>158930427
What builds could kill shaper in HC somewhat safely?
>>158930498
you're literally the same cancer, retard
>>158904016
Solution to this is actually kind of simple
>You want the boss to do A Big Hit
>It deals a % of the players max HP
>After dealing that % of the players max HP it inflicts a "true" damage debuff (not chaos, unable to be affected by any resistances or armor), with the hit and the debuff dealing a combined total of 120% of the player's max HP
>The debuff lasts 3 seconds, dealing it's damage quickly but not too quick so the player can react to it in whatever way the player sees fit
>This one hit deals more damage than you could reasonably take but gives the player a chance to survive it and overcome it in a battle, giving an element of skill
This can be done a plethora of ways. The "debuff" could come in any form, a DoT, some big AoE that will have a high chance of hitting you after the fact, any number of ways. It doesn't have to be "be ready to pot your ass off and hope your rng defenses roll in your favor".
Also:
>players can not take more than 99.5% of their max HP in a half second
This leads to players being unable to be one shot but you can still be hit to 1 hp and then die from a random arrow from a skeleton. Though, especially in hardcore, you should have layers upon layers of defenses saving you from that one arrow from the skeleton, giving you time to get out of the fray, pot and heal up, and go back in.
>>158930615
Essence drain and ancestral warchief.
>>158931147
ED lacks the dps to safely kill shaper unless you have like 50k tooltip
>>158930615
Wormblaster
PF+anything that works well with a vinktard's
>>158931052
>Get hit
>Leech back up
>Can still block it
Thanks for not nerfing PF BV, I'd hate to have to play something other than ranger.
>>158931052
>% of the players max HP
extremely boring and lazy "solution" which unironically rewards low ehp high damage vp builds
your inner shitcrow is showing
>The "debuff" could come in any form, a DoT, some big AoE that will have a high chance of hitting you after the fact, any number of ways.
unironically removes any element of skill, since this can be dealt with passively, not reactively through flask use / manual dodging
>>158931454
>big aoe
>can't be dealt with reactively through manual dodging
He's fucking stupid but also please think before you reply too
>>158931454
>flask use
>reactive
>>158931449
>>158931454
Then you give the boss a Sin Trek style buff, the "Enemies cannot leech life from you" part.
>>158931610
this isn't in any way shape or form an interesting way to design a hard encounter / boss
if it's "true damage" DoT: your defenses are ignored with the exception of passive regen / sustain with leech = passive, boring, leads to the same sponge facetanking "meta" we have with cancer builds like wormblaster/cwdt zerkers/bv pathfinders who are virtually immortal without the threat of one-shots
if it's "true damage" AoE: essentially the same as "one-shot" mechanics now, except everyone is on the same level = passive, boring, leads to no incentive to customize your character in any interesting way
his '"solution" doesn't prevent the two issues he claims to solve:
1) avoidance layers are not reliable (95% chance to avoid is still 5% chance to die)
2) layered defenses are not rewarded, it's all about the sponge playstyle (absorb one hit, regen back to full life instantly)
>>158931783
flasks use is reactive, by definition, retard
if I can outregen/leech something by shift clicking it, or if my flasks last indefinitely because they refill on crit, then no reaction / manual dodging is needed and we get the cancer builds mentioned above
>>158932020
all your dumbass solutions are just pigeonholing players into specific build archetypes, DoT or totems in this case, instead of rewarding CUSTOMIZATION of your character, which is the whole point
nuh huh you can't mitigate this in any way, it's TRUE DAMAGE
nuh huh you can't leech back life
holy shit stop fucking posting
>>158932097
>flasks use is reactive, by definition, retard
>autohotkey triggering on health amounts
>infinite flask spam
>>158932243
just because builds like harvest / pathfinders bypass the restriction of flasks, which is the short duration of their buff, thus removing their reactive nature doesn't change the fact they're designed to be reactive, are you fucking retarded?
stop greentexting if you have no actual argument, you fucking retard
>>158932509
>getting this upset to shitposting
go back to farming docks
>>158932562
>hurrr durrr I'm just a shitposting retard hehe I sure baited you
tab back to discord
>>158932509
>doesn't change the fact they're designed to be reactive
something being designed with a certain intent does not mean that something possesses the intent as a result
see: pretty much half the shit that ggg does
>>158932587
>implying that's me
Chill my dude I'm sure the City of Sarn farming is important but chill
>>158932594
look retard, I'm saying that because we already have builds that passively largely ignore game mechanics (flasks last indefinitely instead of being short time buffs), then removing even more incentive for players to invest into defenses that are not infinite flasks or instant leech is pretty retarded
>>158933001
lol
>>158933505
retard
>>158854490
Except armor barely mitigates huge hits.
>want to buy veil
>have more than enough
>don't want to spend a chunk of my currency because I feel good seeing it and knowing I have that much
>>158934598
>tfw got a holographic or w/e Lord of the Flies and a normal one from my starting packs
Well thanks game
can i have an invite to discord please?
strongest class to play generic CI ED?
occultist?
ded
thred
>retarded fucking Izaro sword slashes chunking me for 5k life at max endurance charges+fortify every time
Fuck these elemental retard shit mods and FUCK dual sword izaro
>>158940009
lol
>>158940009
>tfw playing +10k ES CI char for the first time
lol this is too good, i'm never playing life chars again
chisels are the biggest meme in mapping
>>158942030
prepare your anus because the nerf cycle always goes this way:
> Is life good?
> Buff monster damage buff es
> Hybrid is now better
> Buff monster damage and es even more
> CI is good now
> gut es and monster damage
> Repeat the process
>racing weekend at the same time as blizzcon
bravo GGG
>giving a shit about blizzard in 2016
:^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsCwf54wWCo
haha!
dumb reddit crossposter
reminder that as long as trading exists in its current form, poe is a pvp game where the main way to win is through the other party's ignorance
>>158940009
Based
>Apparently, this is the ending you deserve.
>>158945698
Hey, what's up?
>#1 most watched Microtransaction for sales
>Currency Tab
>Has and never will go on sale
:^)
>>158948982
KILL YOURSELF YOU UNFUNNY MEME NIGGGER
>>158948963
Stop being a retard please.
>>158949540
>Stop being right
Why.
so two days of races is all we get until the next league? wtf...
>>158949694
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Daily_Deals
The last time it was on sale was 8th of October retard.
>>158950019
Huh. My bad.
i actually don't even like challenge leagues.... i enjoy the short race leagues
don't have much reason to play this game anymore t-b-h
why did the site turn orange??
>>158950339
Ask the skeleton in your pocket.
Best build to start the leagues now and to finish all the challenges before they end?
>>158946161
>>158948982
wtf is this a bug?????????????????
>>158951003
omg shut the fuck up discord
>>158951034
this
discord doesn't even post here
Finished a3 merc in 50 mins without even speedrunning through it
jelly?
>>158953743
that's horribly slow
i'm actually pretty mad they aren't doing a flashback race this league
GGG never ceases to disappoint
shut up and buy some stash tabs
>>158954014
why are you still here then
go back to /lolg/, retard
well the assfaggots season ends in like a week and that's not enough time to reach plat or diamond because i haven't played in over a year and i would need to git gud again....
tell me more about your worthless hobbies like I care so much about your casual ass
do you want to level together
>>158953743
TOP
K
E
K
>life ED
>all the dps nodes are in the upper right region
wtf I hate life now
how do i git gud at racing in less than a week?
>>158954949
just pic one class (unpopular one pref) and race to merv 10 times and time yourself. racing is singleplayer anyway
>>158954946
play evasion and take the 150% life build like a man
>>158954949
you could practice in vanilla poe but it's only going to help you for a handful of races
like how are you going to practice for exiles everywhere if you never had experience with such races before
>>158955059
there's no reason to pick an unpopular class unless you're relatively certain to get rank 1, which is not happening if you just practiced racing 3 days ago
>>158955059
what does any of this mean
winterheart, descent champions, medallion, blamt
i have no idea what those mean
>>158955298
they mean you're wasting your time
>>158955298
those are previous race mods
if you're unfamiliar with them, read up guides on the racing sub
honestly you shouldn't bother unless for fun if you're unfamiliar with those though, things like BLAMT or descent champions will just kill you within the first 2 minutes and frustrate you
>>158955231
i raced for a couple of days and got top 10 templar. racing is super dead
>>158955462
>racing is super dead
yeah because there's no incentive usually and only autists and no lifers race
here everyone is going to race for those armour mtx so expect higher competition
also top 10 templar means jack shit in races that don't award points per class, goal is top 50 so if you're not good with classes like witch/shadow/ranger you're going to fall behind anyway
>>158955462
i got top 10 scion in my very first race
it was also boring as fuck
this game sucks
>>158955718
rank 1 scion was 7 levels ahead of you
just saying
>>158955462
racing was an accidental interest that caught on with autists that has been kept around hoping it would drive interest in the game and it doesn't
>>158955814
yeah i stopped after 10 days. idk how autists can handle doing literally the worst part of the game (no gear, skills, anything) over and over
>>158956313
for the same reason people love playing on the first day of a challenge league and quit when they get level 21/20 gems and a 6L because facerolling content isn't inherently more fun than racing with junk gear
>>158956313
because after the memorize all of the layouts they get free shit to spam in trade chat after a month into every league
also because they can win unlike in competitive games
ever notice assfaggots hoppers to move to every new game to escape the fact that they are shit
>>158956548
solo racing is inherently more competitive than mobas where you get carried by your 4 fellow shitters
>>158956650
no playing a game where less than 100 people actually have any idea what they are doing, stats are allocated randomly, and zone loading is a factor in performance is not competitive
shitters flock to 'competition' in fish bowls because they can't compete
>>158956802
>less than 100 people actually have any idea what they are doing
how come you're not one of them?
>stats are allocated randomly
what does this even mean
>zone loading is a factor in performance
you playing with a disadvantage because you have a shit connection/computer is quite irrelevant
>>158957048
no, all of those factors are relevant in disqualifying poe racing as competitive
want to play sf4 or sf5 casual game shitter
i know we're all nerd autists here but defending poe racing goes a little far m8
>>158957172
I compared solo poe racing to mobas, stop trying to shift the focus to other competitive games
>zone loading is a factor in performance
like how is your circumstances gimping your performances relevant to the competitive aspect of something
when you set your alarm clock to play in a poe races you naturally become defensive of your poor life choices
when you try to bring up mobas as somehow being competitive you lose any kind of credibility
28 days remain until Essence League is over. As usual, it is now a ghost town save for a couple people dicking around with 10,000 ex builds that can't beat T12 maps.
Fuckin' A
>>158957610
some people have jobs and don't play 12 hours a day like you, retard
what you might accomplish in 2 weeks playing 12 hours a day, they might need 3 months playing 2 hours a day
you didn't compare anything, you made a dumb claim
all assfaggots games use a stochastic model to assess player ability to put them in relatively evenly matched games. you being in a high mmr assfaggot game will cause your team to lose
also if it's not obvious to you why someone winning or losing due to external factors disqualifies a game as competitive you don't understand competition
so how about some sf4 or sf5 casual game shitter
>>158957764
>all assfaggots games use a stochastic model to assess player ability to put them in relatively evenly matched games. you being in a high mmr assfaggot game will cause your team to lose
yeah and such model is perfect and devoid of any loopholes
shitters getting carried and good players carrying shitters is never a thing in moba, everyone is somehow of equal level and contribution despite the nature of the genre making this mathematically impossible
>also if it's not obvious to you why someone winning or losing due to external factors disqualifies a game as competitive you don't understand competition
you sound so fucking retarded
external factors are that, external, a game that requires 2 hands doesn't become non competitive because you broke your left hand and now are at a disadvantage
>so how about some sf4 or sf5 casual game shitter
I don't play such retarded games where button smashing is considered skill
>>158957709
those people are useless
>>158957585
Well MOBAs are pretty competitive, in fact all you do is compete against other players
Whether that competition is worthy of being considered in any way, is another matter
explain to us the loopholes in the models used to assess player abilities casual game shitter
i think you have discovered the pathway to you making millions of dollars in competitive gaming (not path of t-shirts tho)
>>158958159
>Well MOBAs are pretty competitive, in fact all you do is compete against other players
anything can be considered competitive if you can compare results
my argument was that solo racing in poe is more competitive than mobas because the outcome is determined by yourself, not yourself and 4 other players
yourself, your computer, the utter lack of competitors, and your rng
truly skill based gaming at its finest
>>158958236
an arbitrary algorithmic scoring of your ability can never be accurate when it accounts for a result that is also determined by 4 other players
how dense do you have to be
this is the entire idea behind smurfing, an experienced player creating a new account and rolling low MMR players because they can carry the rest of the team, thus gaming the system
>>158958362
>your computer
if you have a shit computer, that's your issue, not relevant to the competitive aspect of something
>the utter lack of competitors
if 2 autists compete in a new game they invented 5 seconds ago, it's still a competitive game as long as the grounds laid out are fair to both parties
>rng
rng is an element of poe racing which prevents it from being truly competitive, but that was never the argument in the first place
>>158958470
there's nothing "arbitrary" about the scoring
the model assesses ability with some degree of confidence and as its confidence in the assessment is decreased or increased from the success of its prediction of game outcomes, the relative gain or loss in ranking per game is altered
'smurfing' rather than exposing a 'loophole' in the assessment exposes the strength of the assessment, as it gradually results in a reassessment of player skill around the mmr of the player
hence the mmr boosting
once the assessment of player skill again reaches a high level of confidence substituting the player will result in a dramatic player assessment as it will alter the predicted outcome of games
in a high mmr game you will hinder your teammates and you will inevitably cause them to lose until you are back in low mmr games
2013 poe
>races
>GOAT challenge leagues
>patches every two weeks
>separate HC/SC leagues
>kripp and his mumble bros
>temp leagues
>charity events
>memeblast meta
this game has fallen so far
no your new game of two shitters is a casual game played by casual shitters
which you play because your fragile ego cannot withstand actual competition
poe is a casual game and poe racers are casual shitters that flock to it because they do not do well in competitive games
you playing basketball with your mom is not a competitive game
sorry to upset you (not sorry)
1rd of all poe is not a casual game
>rpg
>not casual
you playing all day doesn't make you not a casual
grannies sit at slot machines all day
>>158957709
I play a fairly casual 3 hours a day and I got 36/40
>>158959023
congratulations on using a wall of text to explain how the MMR system works, but you've yet to explain how a scoring ability weighed by 4 other players can rank a player as being above another skill wise
>in a high mmr game you will hinder your teammates and you will inevitably cause them to lose until you are back in low mmr games
the point of stabilization can be arbitrarily higher or lower than your actual skill level, since you can only be instrumental/detrimental to your team to a certain extent, thus because your skill level is less important than other factors such as team synergy and coordination, I don't consider mobas to be more competitive than games where you compete solo against others
>>158959205
>you playing basketball with your mom is not a competitive game
it's more competitive than if I brought 4 other players and my mom brought 4 other players, because then how could I undeniably know I'm better or worse than my mom?
>>158959641
make sure to let GGG know about this so they can adequately adjust the next league's duration to your personal needs
oh wait, you're a nobody and you don't matter
retard
because you will lose the game predictably more often at a high level of confidence
should have kept up with those studies anon
Buying 36/40 is really easy when you have a job.
>>158959823
yup, because weighted averages are more accurate than actual singular results you can compare
by that logic the worst role player on a championship basketball team is better than lebron james on years where his team wins the championship
you truly destroyed the foundations of my world there
>>158960192
yes more results would be an improvement over a single result but your conclusion does not follow from this
what level of formal education have you completed anon
challenge leagues aren't challenging and the "free" mtx is shitty
>>158960421
not really, you're using team results and trying to use that as a leverage of ranking solo performances
mobas are only as competitive as far as team competition goes, not solo competition, and a player being above the rest of the competition is undeniably more meaningful/impressive than his team being above the rest of the competition
Single player MMO loot grinders aren't challenging. Try playing a video game more challenging than Angry Birds.
the challenge is to not kill yourself after you've realized how inefficiently you've spent your time playing this game
no because teams with weaker players will lose, because the teams are not made from anti-competitive burger negroid sport rules to maximize marketing revenue
i enjoy path of exile
i'm beginning to wonder how they made this game in the first place considering how badly they've managed to fuck it up since open beta
why does this dog look so retarded
>>158961267
>path of lightning arrow was the high point of this game
I love this "reply to some dude without quoting his post" meme, where'd you guys get it?
>>158961374
unironically better than the current invincible BV meta
at least we had reflect and thorns back then
>>158961074
that's not the point
it's like arguing with a fucking toddler
bad players can exist in team games, or they might be only good at one thing (role players)
because mobas are team games as opposed to solo competitive games, you cannot accurately rank a player above another, only their team ability to work together, which is a pretty vague and tangential quality that you can't pinpoint on one single player
sure team games can be competitive, but how competitive are you as a player if you do well in a team game but do poorly in a single player game? if you value a single person's ability over a team effort, then it follows suit that solo games are more competitive than team games where your success hinges on other people
>>158961467
before the "melee patch" no one cared about thorns
>>158961502
"more competitive" is completely unquantifiable
>>158961753
>if you value a single person's ability over a team effort
i don't care that you and your team of 4 random shitters managed to get high MMR because there are ways to achieve so without being an exceptionally good player. do the same on a single player game and you can brag
>>158961838
if you compete it's competitive
if you don't compete it's not competitive
i really wish people would stop treating it like it's a measure of quality
fact: this game gets VERY competitive within the top50
you can quite accurately predict the mmr* of a player which is why if you were put in a random high mmr game you will lose the game for the team
tossing a smurf into a game is just noise in assessing how bad you are
* although ratings at the tail become less accurate
whereas in poe solo performance is shaped by rng, the lack of any competitors, and hardware performance
so even an obscure assfaggots is more competitive than a casual game like poe which is not competitive
just accept that you are a casual or play competitive games
you can't hide under statistical models you don't understand
>>158961928
yes, and we established before, anything can be competitive, if you can't differentiate competition where individual skill matters more or less, then the argument is essentially over as you're too retarded to understand why people consider mobas to be casual games
people that play noncompetitive games consider assfaggots to be casual games, because they are more popular than their favorite games, and this allows them to think they are "elite" while they are just losers
>>158962089
no one is arguing you cannot "predict" MMR accurately, the point is that MMR cannot accurately reflect a player's skill in a team game because your success or failure still hinges on a lot more influential factors, so there's always this grey area where you're never certain you can never claim YOU won a game, only that your team did
>just accept that you are a casual or play competitive games
poe is casual and I've played competitive games before
still less casual than mobas
assfaggots are more casual (thus more popular) by pretty much any definition of the word
no, mmr accurately reflects your ability to win games
far more than your lucky rng run in a casual game like path of exile
look how insecure you are
football (more popular than all video games) confirmed for more casual than path of exile
a lucky drop or a lucky zone layout will influence your race outcome a lot less than how well you work with 4 other players and how well the 5 opposite players work together
to assume that your individual skill matters less in a solo race with rng elements than in a 5v5 pvp game is ludicrous
assfaggots isn't competitive until you reach high plat / low diamond. before then it's just a shitfest of shitflinging and hoping you get lucky. it takes actual skill and game knowledge to move up into high diamond. winning depends on teamwork and strategy. it's extremely difficult to carry a game at those high elos
making it into the top50 at the start of a HC league is incredibly challenging. everyone at that level is playing 12+ hours a day minimum. to make it into the top20 you need to play 18 hours a day AND level faster than everyone else. anyone saying doing that is easy is a fucking liar
>>158963030
retard, we not discussing challenge leagues "races" because there's no fair grounds and the player who plays the most has an obvious advantage over the player who plays less
for a race to actually be a race, there needs to be a clear time constraint where efficiency becomes important
casuals have no place arguing whether a game is competitive or not
rng in a single trial with no competition is officially more representative of player skill than the ability to consistently perform your role in a high mmr assfaggots game
casuals say the darndest things
You are all a bunch of faggots.
>>158962134
individual skill matters in assfaggots
this is because team skill is made up out of individual skills
sure it's possible to be a retard and still win but it's possible to be a retard and win due to dumb luck in any game
rng evens out, if a racer is consistently top 10 despite rng elements, he's definitely a top 10 player SKILL wise
high mmr in assfaggots means very little, sure you have some knowledge of the game and possibly the meta, but your actual SKILL as a player is rarely ever a factor
the difference is arpg competition is a measure of your skill, experience and dedication as an individual
compared to assfaggots where succeeding depends on having cohesive teamwork and a winning strategy
if i had to choose which is more competitive i couldn't give an answer. apples to oranges
>>158963473
>this is because team skill is made up out of individual skills
and then you consider mobas have predetermined roles where some players can excel at, and be shit in every other role
being a good role player is not the same as being a skillful player, you're just a glorified trained monkey
>all ten players of path of exile are SKILLED
if this shitty game could get about two million more players to "race," no one you know would be top 1000 after a year
>>158963701
teamwork players in real life: alexander the great, napoleon, julius caesar
solo players in real life: mike tyson, the unabomber
hmmm...
>>158963775
their individual SKILL matters a lot more, the fact that racing is unpopular or that there is a low pool of talent is irrelevant. maybe the top 10 are shit because no one give a shit about racing. but they're better than the rest.
there's no such thing as top 10 players in assfaggots, only top 10 teams, and even then the ranking is shaky and unreliable because it feels like any team could beat any on a given lucky day. when the outcome seems so randomly determined, it's hard to ascribe individual SKILL to individual players.
outskilled by my alchemy outcome
unlike those random assfaggots where there's no way of detecting who is skilled
Alright, /poeg/. You were hired by GGG to design the next league, what's your brilliant idea?
>racers
>>158964116
1) poe racing is not truly competitive because there are random elements
2) those random elements matter less than the input and interaction of 9 other players when it comes to determining individual skill, or the rankings of each race would be wildly different each time
>>158964124
>There are mobs that have annoying implicit or explicit affixes, high AoE or physical damage, or lag modern computers. Either you can or can't control fighting them.
>There are items to fill up your stash space that you need to complete challenges or access game content.
>>158964124
just delete the past 3 years from memory and go back to 2013 poe
i have learned that not only are single trials more accurate than statistics, and that a lack of competition actually makes statistical outcomes more accurate than single trials
>burger education
>>158964124
>Every class starts at the opossite node
>Marauder starts at Shadow, Templar at Ranger, etc
>Genderbend classes
what i don't understand is that if such a small fraction of the playerbase actually cares about and participates in racing then why did they bother to make a weekend of races? is two days of racing really the only thing we're getting for two entire months of /dead game/ ? that's fucking retarded
to placate whiners
GGG is so fucking retarded. goddamnit
>>158964862
༼ つ ._. ༽つAny time you offer something and then don't offer it, people will act like they wanted it all along, and complain that you aren't providing it.༼ つ ._. ༽つ
Setting up some random races doesn't cost them many resources.
>>158964124
Triple Beyond
>>158963524
That implies assfaggots don't have a level or measure of skill, experience and dedication towards the game. Whereas ARPGs don't have any teamwork or what winning strategy involved. Also winning strategies in ARPGs are more figured out and are the meta, because they're the most efficient. In assfaggots it's what you do that defines winning. In ARPG it's success and efficiency. Relative to other ways of playing. Which is why people hate pathfinder
>>158967820
i bet they don't even nerf assfinder before the next league, or if they do it won't be substantial enough
getting tired of this desu...
>>158964124
>Superpowerful unique mobs called "Titans" have a chance to spawn in areas throughout the game
>Titan locations are constistent globally, similar to tempest, and change every other hour or so
>When a titan is in a zone, players can join other people's instances of that zone at will, similar to cutthroat. Unlike cutthroat, there is no pvp.
>Players will have to team up with one another to defeat these titans who are far too powerful to conceivably defeat alone (unless you are severely overleveled for the zone, in which case most of the loot you get isn't useful you)
>Titans drop massive amounts of loot when defeated, which is generally very good for the level of the zone they appear in. They also have a chance to drop new league-specific uniques, or a map fragment for a new map, with higher chances of dropping with higher area levels.
>Uniques and fragments dropped this way drop one copy per playeri n the zone. Fragments can only drop in merciless, and you can only kill a titan once per account before having to wait for a new one to spawn.
>>158968114
They're going to eviscerate either memefinder, meme vortex, or meme of vinktar.
Probably both.
>>158968512
>Literally open world raid bosses
I mock, but with a little refinement I could actually see this being a pretty fun thing.
>>158968563
that's what they've been doing to spark/vspark for years and it's still top tier
they don't want to be heavy-handed with the nerfs because standardbabbs start crying about their characters being made useless
i hate how bad this league was and yet i was probably at the richest ive ever been in poe
fuck im so burnt out
>>158968512
how do you do this without it being miserable in hardcore
>>158968512
sounds like shit
>>158968778
daijoubu anon-kun
it'll be over soon
>>158968512
Never gonna happen just for the FPS drop alone
>>158968512
sounds alright but 50+ people fighting one boss would be literally impossible. 0 fps and everyone crashing
>>158964124
all zones now function like the labyrinth including traps
40 new traps added
>>158968512
All zones have a chance to contain an underworld gate
Underworld gates lead to side areas with cutthroat style zoning and autopartying. The only mobs in these zones are titans and their adds.
>>158970181
>>158964124
Map inception. Each map has a small % to encounter a map device with a portal to another map.
Then on that map you have another chance to get into yet another map and so on infinitely.
Monsters get harder, but loot gets better.
Each map beyond the first will make your character sleep on the previous map, but time goes slower and slower the deeper you are. A timer will help you determine how long you have until you die, which can be slowed the deeper you go into inception.
>>158971358
with such fun traps as
>rolling boulder trap
>water slowly filling all rooms in the dungeon trap
>looks like a unique item but is actually an IED trap
>>158972003
>Dungeons full of Mimics
>>158964561
>single trials more accurate than statistics
single performances are more accurate than team statistics when it comes to evaluating a single player's skill, sure
>lack of competition actually makes statistical outcomes more accurate than single trials
what does this even mean you triggered autist?
whether poe racing is popular or not is not relevant at all. players that are consistently the fastest are considered the best racers, players with the highest mmr in assfaggots are not necessarily the most skilled.
>>158971908
terrible idea you fucking retard
>let's force players to repeat content and cater to one playstyle instead of diversifying the options to engage content
>>158968919
hardcucks want to be miserable i dont see the problem
>>158919472
Someone already said "I don't even play this game" you fucking retard.
>>158972738
Your opinion doesn't matter to me, retard.
>>158973417
your ideas are intellectual pollution, stop wasting everyone's time and making them dumber with your dumbass ideas, retard
>muh map inception
WORST league pitch ever, I'd rather have a generic boring "every monsters gets Onslaught" mod over your trash idea
>>158945698
>>158973586
i did everything 'right' for a life build, picked every nearby life cluster, got 90+ life on every gear slot that is not a weapon, even got +str rolls where I could and I'm not breaking 7.5k life at level 90
this is unacceptable
>>158973563
You're not Chris Wilson so you are in no position to throw this trash at me. Stop replying to me.
what about a challenge league that actually makes the game challenging rather than easier
bonus: and with no items that fill up your stash
challenge should be optional, not in your face
if you think the game is easy with essence, show me your shaper kill in hc or shut up
>>158974587
ok all monsters do 90% increased damage and
>>158974051
Doing everything right on something that's inherently wrong is still wrong
>>158974051
>doesn't tell you the percent increased life he has
>doesn't tell you if he's 2h or dual wield
>>158974703
>challenge should be optional, not in your face
spoken like a true turdbird
>>158976649
a shitcrow who's completed every challenge is undeniably more hardcore than you buying boss kills
>>158976839
>this opinion
frogposting because you know i'm right
ah, i win again
procore is objectively superior to tutorialcore
>better players
>better economy
>better builds
>more fun
>>158977468
>>158964124
>Monster drop fragments of an infinity ledge map, combine those fragments to access it.
>Each difficulty grants access to a new tier, normal difficulty only drops normal fragments, cruel drops normal and magic fragments, merciless drops normal, magic and rare fragments, maps drops all plus a chance at a unique infinity ledge when you kill a map boss.
>A unique map comes with the maximum amount of rooms (80) and a gimmick boss at the end with new items.
>Monsters carrying the fragments have new annoying skills.
>The quantity of fragments you use to create the map defines how many rooms the infinity ledge map will have
>Normal fragments caps at 20 fragments, magic at 40 fragments, rare at 60 fragments.
>You can kill the gimmick boss in the last room of each map rarity if you created it with the maximum number of fragments
There, not only it can be fun to play it but it could allow people to hoard fragments and use it to level new characters since the map should scale with level up to a point.
Like the normal version should scale from level 10 until level 35 or something, the magic version should start at 35 and go up to 55, rare version 55 up to 75 and the unique version should start at 75 and cap at 85 or something like that.
>>158978915
>Infinite ledge league meme
>>158978915
Too much fun, GGG would never allow it.
>>158978915
>>158981114
>infinite linear corridor with easy enemies would be fun
why not just play clicker heroes or some other idle game?
>>158981436
I guess I'd prefer frequent bosses and 1 portal only. The maps should be very expensive too.
>>158978915
Add this:
>If you log out, die or leave the map you can't go back
but yeah >>158981114 is right, free maps with possible free loot and an alternative leveling path would never pass the no fun allowed filter.
>>158981436
>infinite linear corridor
Do you play poe? The entire game is a giant linear corridor.
Have you ever played infinite ledge? It's not easy, enemies level scale, mob density makes it a nightmare with some mods...
Also, fuck leveling new characters, poe would retain more players if leveling more characters wasn't a fucking chore.
>>158982113
>The entire game is a giant linear corridor.
This is a lie.
>>158982402
boo hoo, you can go left or right but you will have to do both roads anyway and it inevitably leads to the same road everybody has to run.
>It's not linear guises i swear, we have lots of choices
>>158983281
>trying to find the exit is the same type of gameplay as a literal linear path.
Then I guess every game is linear from Mario Bros. to Metroid to fucking Grand Theft Auto
>>158983281
The illusion of choice goes a long way.
But yes, games with an end can be viewed as a totally linear experience leading up to that point, but at the same time this is an extreme view of the definition and tends to not exactly apply to most games.
WHAT A GOWJEOUS FIGHTA
bought my first aegis aurora
>>158986143
should've bought a better graphic card instead
>it's a mithia post
>>158986206
some of us are poor
>>158986143
Nice
*cracks a beer open*
heh, time to play some path of exile...
mithia is my 2rd favorite player in poeg! (2rd only to my'reself of course)
what if there was a site where we could have names and give each other internet points for posts we like
wouldn't that be neato
everyone knows everyone here and we're all friends!
>poeg dead as fuck
>everyone only plays 2 weeks a league
>all the good hc streamers have left
>I contribute to 150 posts out of 750 in every thread
honestly considering quitting too
same
i only enjoyed temp leagues and they aren't doing those anymore
>>158990515
I usually play until there's a month left, then blow all my dosh on a stupid-ass build, and then when I die like a retard, I quit and wait for the next league.
why is paws so skinny
i wanna feed her unhealthy junk food
GGG has 88 employees
what are they all doing?
>>158991252
I'm sure if you went back to your reddit tab you would see
>>158991252
design
coding
debugging
3d modeling
animation
sound effects
lore writing
quality assurance
customer service
in-game moderation
community management
>>158991759
ok but for what? it takes 88 people to make a challenge league? they used to do it with 15 people
>>158991886
something like prophecy would take quite a bit of work I assume
>>158991967
prophecy is the worst league they've ever made
>>158992046
irrelevant
>>158990471
They're always welcome at my hideout
>>158992135
it's very relevant
it's taking them longer to create content and the content is worse than it was years ago
https://clips.twitch
.tv/makavelit0t0/AdorableSalamanderVaultBoy
lol @ nerds saying beyond is the best league when shit like this happens
there weren't any good hardcore leagues
after onslaught they intentionally used hardcore to dump shit with no qa done to kill people for lulz
>>158992356
invasion was
>>158993197
the best leagues are all HC leagues tbqh
i didn't play any of the shitcore leagues so i can't comment on them
>torment
>rampage
>warbands
all pure garbage
i play hardcore because i feel alive when i narrowly escape death
>>158993603
ghosts are pretty high on the list of things in this game that make me angry
>GO IN THE MOB YOU PIECE OF SHIT
>GO NOW
>>158961382
Go to >>>/vg/sc2 and see for yourself. Some of the other garbage generals do it too so naturally the braindead faggots have to bring their low quality shit here as well. I wouldn't be surprised if they're all from 3rd world countries.
>>158993858
the only noobcore leagues i was jealous of was domination and ambush
what the fuck is this
>>158993948
the game this general is dedicated is played a lot more in 3rd world countries than in the us of a
you picked the wrong game to be elitist about, moron
>>158994112
>played a lot more in 3rd world countries than in the us of a
only because GGG has failed to succeed in the West
>>158994213
or because ameriburgers are more fond of less intellectual, more casual games
the west is too busy playing erp tdm in "survival" games to play diablo clones
>>158994293
If I'm planning on stacking a shitload of auras for my minion build, would I have to get rid of SRS entirely? I don't even have the mana to sustain casting it constantly as is without relying on a flask.
>>158994420
time to go block magic staff my man
>>158993858
Torment was pretty shit, but Prophecy was worse.
>>158994087
What am I looking at here senpai
>>158994476
b-but i'm already planning on going midnight bargain + mon'tregul's grasp
>>158994624
jesus christ
follow a guide already you clueless fuck
>Having a great leveling run
>Hit the warehouse district at 50 minutes
>Get killed by the first rare monster
Welp.
Level 21 in 50 minutes was still pretty good considering I didn't get any actual drops. Just one alteration I used for the concentrated effect.
>>158994836
i tried asking about how retarded my minion build was going to end up being but nobody replied
>>158891496
>>158994624
i wish mon'tregul's grasp was good
i used it on a summoner ages back, even though it's shit, because big zombies
>>158994906
>leveling run
for what purpose
practicing for vanilla poe isn't going to help you in headhunter races
>>158995071
Yes it will. Also because I'm having fun. Also I need to in order to have more mule accounts.
>>158994593
A map with a bizarre amount of tormented spirits
>>158995126
>I'm having fun
hmm dubious at best
>>158995126
what did he mean by this
>want to buy item
>only sellers with item online want a ridiculous price for them, and the seller who has it for a good price is offline
Every time.
>>158994087
What hack is this?
>>158996456
most people are understanding and willing to lower their price if you don't lowball them like a scumbag
fact: there is not greater achievement than completing a challenge while being solo self-found
>>158996591
poehud
https://github.com/TehCheat/PoEHUD
http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/mmo/path-of-exile/poe-bots-programs/511580-poehud-overlay-updated.html
>>158997934
I'm tempted to use this but I have over 200$ invested in mtx on my account.
>>158997934
>>158998387
Yeah, seems like it would be nice but I got like £50 tied up in that and getting banned would be a drag
what's the point of cheating in an arpg
like why not play d3 at this point
>>158998943
How is poehud cheating?
>>158999081
lol
>>158999117
"lol" is not an argument.
i plan on buying d3 the next time it's on sale
just a fair warning to you all
>>158999250
go warn d3 gen rather
>>158999215
arguing with retards would only put me on their level
>>158999328
Still not a valid argument.
>>158999436
retard
>>158999501
I'm still waiting for a valid argument against why poehud is cheating. You can't even think of one single reason except insults and non-arguments.
>>158999675
I'm not the same anon but I do use poehud. I'm not sure why you think it's not cheating because it most certainly gives you a client-side advantage
>>158999250
lol
>>159000226
I find it fixes the game's obvious HUD flaws, like HP bars not appearing until you hit monsters once, accurate dps meters and better item filters. Cheating would be something like bots, something automated or god mode.
>>159000540
Sure, it does that but it also warns you of dangerous mods on nearby enemies, tells you what strongboxes/essences/corrupted zones are on the map, and locates enemies on the minimap for you. It clearly gives you an advantage.
>>159000909
Logout scripts also give you an advantage, yet it is allowed and I haven't seen anyone banned by it.
>>159001047
Being able to breath through your nose is an advantage. You play GGGs game, you play by their rules. They draw the line on what is allowed. Maphacking is not allowed by their rule.
>>159001047
>>159001047
the advantage of pressing one button instead of two - alt and f4
totally comparable with zoomhacking, brighthacking, maphacking, boss warnings and chicken script, sure
>>159001047
>>159001326
You can't move the goal post from 'poehud is cheating' to 'well GGG doesn't ban for it'
>>159001567
>>159001326
Did you even read what poehud does?
>no map hack, disabling particles, zoom hack, fullbright
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1762255
>2.29% of players who completed any challenges have earned the Essence Portal
Why are poetards such casuals?
>>159001683
But they do ban for it if they ever find a way to detect it
>>159001692
That is still maphack no matter how you spin it. This is like that guy saying they redefine racism by being racist.
>>159001765
>I'm part of the 1 challenge completed
Feels good. Too many years of this shit game and this shit general.
>>159002042
and yet here you are
>>159001765
>casual game
>casual players
now why do you buy challenges for microtransactions
No way this league has the highest player retention
every league has the highest player retention
now buy more stash tabs
>>159001765
that's worse than i thought wtf
even a month into the league global 1 was filled with people with only a few challenges
why are people so bad at this game
>>159003451
O don't give a fuck about achievents and just make cool builds and run maps
LF a currency picker in EHC. Your job is to follow me in maps and pick up currency so I can focus on smashing monsters and highlighted drops only. We split currency 75/25. (75% for me, 25% for you)
Post IGN if you're interested.
>>159004397
top kek
>>159004397
70/30 and you've got a deal
add oldmanyungdick
>Totem Templar bores me to tears
>Tank Marauder gets boring after Act 1
>Literally anything involving Shadow or Ranger is stupidly squishy to the point where you can die to fucking Act 2 special mobs in the blink of an eye
>Witch is just D2 Necromancer minus the fun and flexibility
>Duelist will get squashed inevitably before or during Act 3
>Scion is for fucking pussies
I just want to beat Act 3. What do I do?I still have never beaten Dominus and I have at least over 100 hours in this game.
>>159007258
>Literally anything involving Ranger is stupidly squishy to the point where you can die to fucking Act 2 special mobs in the blink of an eye
Rangers are literally facetanking shaper as you typed that
>>159007624
yeah because early game viability is very relevant to a stacked 50 ex character
retard
>>159007776
You're right. They skipped early game and all started off at level 90 with 50 ex.
There's literally no reason to die before maps
>>159007624
She doesn't have shit for defensive. Either the assholes streaming it are completely decked out in uniques/yellows or I'm just stupid.Probably the latter tbqh
>>159007258
>>Scion is for fucking pussies
you're a stupid little IDIOT
>>159008112Retire and go to Hell Chris Jericho. You're one of the most overrated wrestlers of all time
>>159007957
this might sound lik a weird concept to you, but some people start with a different class to gear up for more expensive characters
>>159008343
this might sound like a weird concept to you, but you're pretty shit if you're complaining about mobs in A2 being too hard regardless of class.
>>159008748
That wasn't me. God we need ids.
>>159008748
i'm not the guy struggling in normal you imbecile
all i'm saying is that some classes get an early start easier than others simply because gearing is easier or their starting area is more efficient early on
going all HURRR PATHFINDER IS THE MOST OP CLASS ATM THEREFORE RANGER IS SUPER GOOD EARLY ON is pants on head retarded, especially when you consider the final pathing which is pretty much grab Primal Spirit then get the fuck out of this atrocious area
>>159009041
Ranger is good early on. Stop building 100% dps then wondering why you die.
>>159008850
>God we need ids.
"no"
>>159009259
>Early on defensive options for Ranger are utter shit
>Good shit like Vaal Pact requires you to pick up a half dozen useless Dex skills that you'll have anyway, wasting points
Real defensive
>>159009626
Literally just cap your resists and stack whatever health you can. There's really no reason to die to mobs
>>159010029
It's not mobs, it's special mobs that spawn out of fucking nowhere with ridiculous modifiers like allies cannot die plus extra damage plus debuffs. You can't win by being a damage dealer because you're too squishy, you can't win by being a healer because that requires friends and if you're playing this stupid fucking game then you already know damn well that you don't have them and you can't win as a tank because due to your low damage outputs you won't be able to kill enemies at an efficient rate and thus your flasks run out and thus death when the game decides to fuck you over with some RNG mob.
Do I just have to shill this game on a stream to win because it seems like the only people who have ever beaten Dominus are streamers. If the Steam achievement metrics are anything to go by, only 8.6% at best of the playerbase has ever beaten Dominus.
WHAT DO I DO? This game seems unwinnable.
>>159008850
there's already a place for people like you
>>159010637
I prefer debates that do not degenerate into ad hominem.
I'm only suggesting ids to prevent fights over supposed samefaggotry. Even if the accuser is right or wrong, IDs would cut out the middleman.
>>159010469
>WHAT DO I DO? This game seems unwinnable.
try something easier on someone simple-minded like you, like league of legends
i'm telling you that you have to go back
>>159010469
If this isn't a troll post why are you playing hardcore? Just play softcore until you understand the game. Everything you described is a non-issue when you know what you're doing
>>159010469
>Do I just have to shill this game on a stream to win because it seems like the only people who have ever beaten Dominus are streamers.
>try out poehud just for the hp bars
>everything works except the hp bars
Is it the same for anyone else? Using the latest release.
>>159010469
>complaining about debuffs
>not complaining about the random exiles that will throw traps on your dick from a screen's length away
>>159010807
Ad hominem. I've beaten Contra without the Konami code so I think there's just something I'm not seeing mentally because I know damn well that I could handle almost any game given enough time which is why I'm here, I want to figure out what I'm seeing and resolve the issue.
>>159010905
Because I'm not a pussy.
>>159010996
Oh fuck those guys too, those prophecies are RIPs in the making I tell ya.
>>159011034
>muh ad hominem
>STOP ATTACKING ME
fuck off tumblerina this isn't your safe space if you can't get out of the tutorial mode of a game, be prepared to be called out for the retard/troll you are
>>159010995
enjoy you're ban m*ron
>>159011112
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ Please do yourself a favor and get educated on debating.
buy an ad
>>159011204
shut up NERD
>>159011204
lmao
>muh wikipedia list of fallacies that i skimmed makes me a master debater extraordinaire ugh tfw surrounded by plebs
pretty sure calling out fallacies is the death rattle of a f*cking gay loser nerd
>>159010637
We should adopt 2ch's method, where you get a posting ID that gets changed every 24 hours. You're anonymous but still tied to an ID for the sake of current discussions.
>>159011346
word this fucking acne ridden nerdy loser is out of his element
>>159011346
I'm not claiming to be a fucking presidential tier debater, I'm just saying that these arguments are fallacious because they do not address the issue at hand. I want to figure out what I'm not seeing with my builds and resolve the issue
>>159011130
I don't think anyone has been banned for poehud since they removed everything that wrote to the game's memory.
It's exceptionally more difficult to detect programs that only read memory.
>>159011503
watch you're language
>using poehud
>cheating
>join any other general
>full of hot girls in jpg png webm gif whatever
>join poeg
>autists triggered by nothing all the time
poetards?!?!
>>159012009
we take great pride in our autism here
>>159006302
I didn't even hire you yet and you're already disputing your salary? lol... I need a hard worker, not some greedy weasel trying to get some quick buck for no effort.
>>159012606
is that a yes or a no
What is normal dps to have at the start of Cruel?
>>159012675
your amount of hp is a good baseline
e.g. if you have 1200 hp you should have 1200+ dps
>>159012652
Maybe
>>159012675
can you kill stuff? yes? good
>>159012652
I got 99 problems but a b*tch ain't one
>>159012009
no one with talent would play this game or draw its ugly characters
>>159013021
there are a lot of talented artists in the community
>do t10 map
>finally FINALLY get a red t12 map
>chaos it until it has 30% mob pack and at least 30% item rarity with 90% quantity
>vaal it, jumps to some crazy quantity 130
>run it
>>>no returns
yeeeep back to t10
Are there any viable builds that aren't crit about stacking damage? Like running 2 Omen Wands that have been Deafening Woe'd, Silk Gloves and all the damage you could take from the tree?
>>159013476
>single map sample size
>no returns
fascinating story
this has never happened to any other player in path of exile history
>he doesn't roll his maps 40%+ pack size + blue packs then vaal with sac pieces and zana mods
>>159013556
I'm no expert, but ED seems to be doing pretty well even without crit stacking
catposter just told everyone how to win at poe and i bet still nobody appreciates him
why would you trust someone who's not a winner to tell you how to win
Pretty sure catposter only plays 2 weeks to RMT and buy challenges, then shitpost for 2 more weeks and leave until next league.
>>159013582
>single map
I've been spamming t10s for nothing, I have to buy them from people to actually sustain them
Just hit this baby. Do I go for crazy rolls on it or just sell it as is? Its ilvl 84
>>159014615
sell
i've decided i don't like people anymore
going to play ssf next league
playing self-found has more to do with not liking yourself
i'd rather hate myself for who i am than hate myself for mingling with others
it's more like hating yourself enough to deny yourself build-enabling items
>>159014615
6L vaal regalias are at least 3ex, yours would probably be 4?
also
>be crit casting faggot build
>vaal map for completion
>enfeeble and tempchains on the same map
>I do like 1/4 of my DPS now
whygod
>>159013556
if you don't want to deal with crit then you should go for double dip
specifically for woe wands since that's spell damage, that leaves you with ED poison, vortex hrimburn, vortex fire conversion ignite, or vortex chaos conversion poison.
>>159016718
What if I just stacked damage and elemental penetration? Run Heretic's Veil with X Curse and Ele Weakness. Run Cold Pen, run Controlled Destruction. Probably could use Flammability for Ignite on Vortex if I really wanted to double dip.
>>159016943
>Probably could use Flammability for Ignite on Vortex if I really wanted to double dip.
that would definitely be the time to double dip as ele reduction is basically a more multiplier that double dips.
>>159017165
double double dipping?!
>>158833134
>Reminder 0 bans ever, I've rmt'ed over 1,000 chaos and never been banned.
No hacks in OP? And we like to call this /vg/
https://github.com/TehCheat/PoEHUD
>What is poehud?
It tells you all the masters, strongboxes, trials ,ghosts etc that are in the zone. Shows locations of unique/rares/blues on maps. Also has a custom loot filter that shows you where and what droped!
>How do I change this horrible loot filter?
Three red lines top left, click it so it has a red line under it(Means it's off), honestly I never messed with it so I can't tell you how to make a "good" one.
>Will I get banned for this?
Nope, there is no anti hack!
>really? I won't get banned?
Just keep your mouth shut and head down and you will be fine.
>How do I dupe?
Find a crashing/failing server, have one person put in and out currency into a guild stash, have a 2nd person on the SAME server try to take the currency out. Enjoy free orbs!
Do not do it with an item though, those have unique id's and when the server syncs up the newest one will be deleted
>What about RMT?
zero confirmed bans besides those who keep talking about how they rmt'ed.
>>159018064
How does the duping actually work? Like do you need a specific time? How can you tell the server is gonna crash and it's not just lagging?
>>159018145
If it's lagging it will still work, that's kinda the whole thing.Generally just run a script that scans the PoE reddit for keywords and have it send you a notification.
Then use two accounts, one should be using a VPN in a virtual box, then activate the AHK script you made to spam the currency swaps in the gstash.
>>158993603
Warbands was great.
>cheating in video games so you can RMT chicken tendies money
baka get a real job you fricking idiot -_-
can we have a fun league after essence?
going to be hard to top essence
twitch tv/nohandsken
damn..
>>159022770
summoner... wouldn't BV suit him better?
newfag here
what's the best way for a bow user to get curses onto my enemies?
attach to aura? totem? manual cast? i dont wanna lose 2 sockets for a curse....
>>159024174
curse on hit herald of ice if you're a crit build and running some cold damage (you should probably be a crit build if you're a bow build)
>>159024538
thanks that's the setup i have right now
i'm playing doomfletcher's prism CI with elemental overload
http://poeplanner.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
i am open to any criticism lol
>>159001765
And half of those 2.29% are probably babbies who paid others for their shaper and guardian kills lol.
>>159024719
>CI
>revenge of the hunted
>>159024861
oops i was gonna use a jewel nearby to convert those
I want to mess around with ice lance.
Do I see it right that inquisitor will mostly be better for a crit version? Assassin looks tempting too but I don't know how I would setup the power charge generation.
I just found a divination card "The fiend" and 2 poeple msg me to buy it 7ex in less than 5 min. Why is Headhunter so expensive? I don't see what is so OP about it.
>>159024926
>grabbing that much frenzy charges even tho you can't generate them with BR cause >BR on CI
>goes down to the duelist area as fucking CI
>converting revenge of the hunted, one of the least efficient life nodes in the tree
>no GR, no VP
>elementalist for a bow build in the current patch
>2 (two) jewel sockets
garbage build my friend
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/5ah846/we_are_being_attacked/?st=iuzdmov0&sh=b2390e4f
>catposter is attacking leddit
>>159025591
i've been on the internet for like 10 years and i'm still amazed by the autism of some people
based catposter desu
dead
>>159018064
>guildstash needed 4 duping
trully p2w
>>159018064
How do you get lifebars to work with poehud? The only thing that doesn't work for me.
I've never played PoE before. I'm playing on Hardcore. Honestly what level should I get to before I can not feel ashamed?
>>159031969
I would recommend playing softcore because there is a lot of bullshit that will just kill you if you don't know about it and the game is very bad at communicating that kind of stuff.
>>159031969
doesn't matter, the mere fact that you play in cuck mode means everyone laughs at you behind your back anyway
Corrupt?
>>159032579
retard
>>158837115
What are that amulet and that offhand sword?
Also, you have to be kidding me... dying to that pack of beareds? That is scrub tier.
don't bother making a new thread desu
>>158834574
did they add the battle.net support already?
Ded leeg
Ded gaym
Ded thred
I'm still alive.
>>159032579
of course, it's shit without +1 curse, better off using a rare ammy desu but people are dum dums
>>159003451
... because they lose all interest/motivation due to how shit the game is?
>>159034628
I'm not going to use it, but an exalt is an exalt.
>>159035225
I don't get why people pay that price at all, the flat damage reduction is not worth it at all compared to what you can roll on a rare ammy.
It's not like 20-60 takes more than a few hours, so why bother paying an exalt for some shit ammy
>>159035436
I recall when Mjolnir discharge required Astramentis... Yeah, exalt for it would be alright. But now? Idk man.
Im happy that i have two of them, one is standard and one is Essence.
>>159035436
Whispering ice builds need it and it's pretty rare
>>159033973
agreed, some people talking about how shitty this general was ingame. stop with these threads.
>>159036439
dont tell me what to do, nerd
who /jddogg/ here?
marble racing general here
how many times did you rip this league anon? I ripped twice and quit at 95
about 10 times
new thread where
>>159036258
How do they need it over a high int rolled rare ammy?
>>158873916
>now that desync is gone
This ships going down..
All on account of the weather.
And I'm in good company,
As we're all going together.
Damn...
this nigga quoting lyrics like this is his facebook wall...
>Shitting on Voltaire
I'm happy to see us finally die if there's people like you around.
new map >>159040457