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>turn 4
>THIS IS YOUR FATE

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PURGE HEALSLUTS

Who else wants to do a tournament?

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xth for best vampire

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Should I reroll? I'm fine not having a tier 1 netdeck right away.

>>158808463
Pretty!

>>158808510

No keep it

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Do i keep rolling? 1/2

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Find a single card more beautiful than Saber's, it's literally impossible.

>Take two as sword
>Not a single banner
>Playing against a chick with two

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>>158808554
2/2

>>158808510
>12 legendaries
>I've been playing half a month and only have 8
no don't reroll

which granblues are most playable

>>158808463
>vampire
>sun right behind her

ummmm

Anyone got a good aggrobat list?

Anyone able to tell me when I should be popping my d-shift? When I can play both it and flame destroyer?

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>>158808297
>turn 9
>AND SO OUR PRAYERS BECOME VICTORY

>>158809224
yes, play your Flame destroyers then play D-shift and smack their face next turn

>>158808887
>comments without reading the card's flavor text

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>>158809074

i'm still tweaking it but it's gotten me to c3 so far.

>>158809224
Use it when you can kill in one shot or if you have no choice because opponent has lethal. Otherwise you're mostly wasting it.

>>158809348
Thanks

>>158808829
Yeah, I lucked out with this roll. But the legendaries are spread out across all the classes. Also I don't know how many of these are playable/hot garbage.

>Good the enemy only has one card left and no field
>of course that card lets them draw 2-3 more cards
EVERY
TIME

>>158809586
wow its almost like they are waiting to use their refill cards until they need to refill

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>Singing
HHHNNNNGGGG
I really need to work on a Shadow deck next, because even this crappy auto deck is pretty fun with the options.

>>158809539
They're all good except for Beast Dominator and Atomy. Pascale and Seraph are decent.

>>158809586
I ACTIVATE POT OF GREED

>>158809669
No they just drew it that round.

It's like the game never wants you to be out of cards.

I'm pretty sure there is a shade lurking around here.
Are you sure you aren't one?

>>158809754
I remember my YGO days.

name one thing blood does best besides lose

A deck of all one stars

>>158809902
BATS

Why would you even use Phoenix Boost?

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17 damage on turn 10 from hand with two Roach, one Natures Guidance, and a fairy circle. I love this deck.

>>158809902
aggro bat got to tier 1 in gamewith

So what is Nexus really?

>>158810321
A bitch.

Embrace Haven. we have top tier decks and best leaderfu.

>just started playing dshift
this is literally solitare

Ranked should be more rewarding

>>158810498
Garuda is a pretty good waifu, I'll give you that.

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A little help

Anyone want to help with private match? 43153 room number

How many Vampys should I be trying to roll?

>>158810651
3

What kind if deck does Spirit Cycle for Shadow fit into? I'm building an aggro deck.

>>158810593
Left

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Just started playing yesterday. How useless are these boys?

thanks senpai

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Beach expansion when?

shadow is actually pretty fun Cerberus is best girl

>>158810743
Damn, alright. This latest roll got me an Olivia and Bloody Mary but I guess I'll keep trying for Vampy.

>>158810883
You know Vampy is a gold right? You can easily craft her.

>>158810970
Anon I don't know what that means.

>>158810883

vampy is only 800 vials, super easy to get compared to olivia and bloody mary

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>Try some different decks out
>Get bad match-ups or bad luck and hover arounda 50% winrate
>Go back to the deck I've been using to grind ranked, Seraph Haven
>Winstreaks all day
Have you ever felt like a deck chose you? It's also worth noting I opened all 3 Seraphs naturally and that's why I started playing it in the first place.

Lose 8 times as Runecraft just for daily. Only win because the person DC'd on mulligan.

>>158810775
Spirit Cycle would possibly fit in Control Shadow if Control Shadow was worth playing

Should I play this on my Iphone 6s or on PC? I'm fine with either but which one is better for new people?

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Post cards you want to see in the next expansion

http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/grups.php?g=m
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/grups.php?g=g
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/grups.php?g=d

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>>158811039
So, I should keep this then? My main goal is to play Bloodcraft and Dragoncraft.

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>Trash Golds
Okay.

>Lucifer says it heals 4 defense
>It's actually 7

lol

>>158811207
Both. You can link accounts.

>Shadow craft has a fun and interesting mechanic and require thoughtful choices due to extra resource management.
>Worst class in the game.

It's not fair

>>158811080
>lose more when you play random decks
>win more when you play the deck you normally grind with

sounds about right

New player here, is Havencraft broken or are the earlier ranks just full of retards? Only class that's given me problems is forestcraft and even then AOE just makes the deck pointless.

Is Rose Queen a good card? I have two of them, one being animated. I've been thinking of liquefying the animated one but I'm afraid I'd end up regretting it if I ever end up going into Forestcraft.

>>158811294
Oh shit that sounds great.

>>158811314
Yes
Yes

>>158811273
Literally all those legendaries are fantastic except Soul Dealer. You better fucking keep that

A season lasts for one month right ?

>>158811207
You can link your account to both devices, and even get some packs for doing it, so whatever.

>About to lose
>Guy leaves
Oh, okay.

>>158811273

you can waste soul dealer. that's enough for a vampy or two.

>>158810775
It shows up in some midrange lists.

>>158811438
>>158811476
Well, alright then. Guess I'll download this on Steam and link my account. Thank you for the help.

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>>158811252
I'd let her enforce my penis.

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>>158811273
If I got rolls like that I'd be jelly. Like that guy that got 3 Tia.

>>158811465
Yup.
Rank doesn't reset though, only score rewards and master ranking.

>>158811465
Yeah, and correct me if I'm wrong, you get to keep your rank. It just resets the achievements.

>>158811304
>shadow worst class in the game

nigga please stop repeating this meme. aggro shadow NEVER stopped being good.

why can't I beat shade isabelle as erika

I don't fucking understand what I'm supposed to do. everything she has destroys all of my followers and I can't do anything about it

>>158811418
Well for fucks sake, anyone got recommendations for fun decks that won't win every match? I loved the idea of havencrafts mechanics but if its broken I don't wanna be a shitter

>>158811575
>>158811628

Nice, thanks.

>>158811662
Just play Havencraft if you like the class, who cares.

>>158811662
if you like havencraft play havencraft faggot

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>>158811252
Husbando

Also Albert

>>158811636
If we're going to get technical, I play it and I like it and I think it's perfectly viable.

But statistically speaking, it is the worst class in the game in terms of success in every bracket and tournament results.

>>158811920
Does Shadowcraft mainly suck now because Haven is everywhere? Poor Luna, everyone's bullying her

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>draft an amazing shadow deck
>probably 5 easy wins
>go 3-2

There is ALWAYS some lucky faggot with bullshit curves or topdecking

Pick related, Cerb, x2 Olivia, x3 Andras, x3 Playful Necro and a good early curve.

Well that story was kinda shit even for a no writing budget videogame

>>158811831
I really want Gawain as an avatar, he always looked cool.

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Is this Take Two deck any good? Probably just going to retire it without even playing because it's terrible but wanted to check here first.

>>158812097

always play through because you'll win one or two and get free gold

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So close

>4 havencraft in a row in arena

so do the devs plan on doing something about this or is this gonna be hearthstone arena tier

>>158812175
You're never going to make it.

>>158812034
5 9 drops is too many.
5 2s is not enough 2s.
Nothing between 5 and 9 isn't very good in t2.
It's not as good a deck as you think it is. You got too greedy.

>>158812175
>>158812250
Whats the average rank anyway

>>158812068
Me too anon, me too.

I really want to see him turned into an unlockable leader for swordcraft too, if possible. I'd love to hear what his lines would be like.

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>>158811252
please cygames

>>158812175
shit's like 9000 points away, close yet so far, good luck nonetheless

>netdeck temp forest craft
>Lose to a golem sigil spellcraft.

Uuggh? I thought forest craft was suppose to the best deck?

>>158812284
Beginner, D, C and B are the babby classes. Grinding starts at A0.

>>158812284

D something

Every fuckign sandbagging faggot with a meta netdeck stays in D

>>158812097
That deck looks fantastic, you best fucking play that shit.
It's never worth it to retire either. You only get 5 matches so take-two is quick, and even if you just win one you've made some gold.

>>158812006
For Aggro Shadow, Storm match-up is fine but Elana match-up is awful, and difficult to win against a competent pilot even if you draw perfectly, curve out and can remove threats efficiency.

The latest tournament had like, 4 Elana decks represented in the top 8 as well. I think Shadow's much more fucked by the meta than it is by virtue of having weak cards.

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I rolled on my phone and on steam. Steam has two Vampire Queens which seems good.

Are either of the two worth rerolling?

Beast Dominator leader for blood when

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>>158811920
>statistically speaking

>>158812284
I think the average for this general is A0. There's also a lot of D ranked players.
Basically it's really easy to get to A0 but once you get there ranking up becomes hard and you have to actually be good at the game since you need a consistently above 50% winrate
>>158812527
Phone is pretty good. Blood isn't the best class but you got a lot of great Blood cards, and all those legendaries are strong.

>>158812223
Havencraft's typically considered one of the weakest arena classes.

>>158812401
>sandbag
Newfag here. What does this even mean?

>>158812727
>but once you get there ranking up becomes hard and you have to actually be good at the game
this is false, evidence is me hitting AA0

>>158812730
purposely staying at a low rank to smash noobs

>>158812034

>think you draft well
>3-2, if not 2-3 or worse
>think you draft bad
>4-1, if not 5-0

Don't sandbaggers have to lose like 3-4x more than they win to stay at the same rank?

>>158812627
Jesus Runecraft.
They really need to give Rune some new decks already.

>>158812729

>https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/4xu1g1/take_two_guide_some_basic_tips/

Source : your ass, I presume ?

>Game gives me tons of cards for every deck but the one I want to play

>>158812948
Earth memes will become top-tier after they add Cagliostro.

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>>158812727
I guess it's time for vampires.

>>158812730

Staying at low rank purposefully to farm dailies on people that cant fight back. You don't progress if you concede a few games between your wins.

Can someone help play a private match for my quest?
12934

>>158812730
Sandbagging means intentionally acting like shit and letting people beat you even though you could easily win, in this case for the express purpose of staying at low ranks. It's a general video game term, have you really not heard it before?

>>158813164
>a general video game term, have you really not heard it before?
I've heard the equivalent of essentially smurfs. Never sandbag.

so does the season end on japan's time zone?

>>158813141
Thanks anon

Don't you lose like 30 points a match at shitter ranks? You'd have to throw 3-4 games for every win. People throwing games to stay in C rank must spend more time starting and conceding matches than actually playing the fucking game.

>>158812627
>Haven is the most popular because is the most consistent deck

Makes you think

What forest and haven cards will inevitably be nerfed? Priest of the cudgel seems like one of the big ones

>win
>opponent DCs
>it goes to the timer
>it is now on the game screen but with a load at the bottom right
>this has been going on for about ten minutes now

Is there anything I can do here or am I just guaranteed the loss? Have they said anything about this issue, or are they just going to keep pretending it doesn't exist like they pretend Arena isn't completely broken in terms of class balance?

I love this game mechanically, but they need to work on their servers. This problem has been well known for awhile now and it's ridiculous it is even a thing. It's also silly how the friend system is more primitive than an online PS2 game. I'm not even sure why a friend's list even exists.

Oh and it's stupid that Priest of the Cudgel gets his banish before Mini Soul Devil procs her effect. I'm not sure what the point of an anti-evolve card is if it doesn't even trigger in response to the one of the most overpowered and prominent evolve cards in the game.

Also please make Ancient Elf a 5 or at least 4 cost card. If Forest gets it early the matchup is basically unwinnable.

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I was wondering for rerolls, what do I use the 100 starting gold on? The Darkness Expansion Packs or Base Packs?

>Luna stage 7
Welp, I need better shadow cards or something, because I have no way to put enough pressure before she starts getting her cheap ass tigers and dragons out.

>>158813308

Starting and conceding five matches shouldnt take more than a minute lol

but yes its retarded and only faggots do it

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>Erika spends her entire story relentlessly hunting down Urias because of the princess
>Urias never once thinks about the princess and just wants to find someone challenging to fight since his old rival is dead

>>158813351
Haven is also the most popular because it's cheaper and more straightforward than Forest and has multiple viable decks instead of just 1 or 2 like other classes.

>>158812950
http://xn--shadowverse-e63t796khk9bk11e.com/2pick/%E3%80%902pick2%E3%83%94%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%80%91%E5%84%AA%E5%85%88%E3%81%99%E3%81%B9%E3%81%8D%E3%82%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%EF%BC%86%E5%84%AA%E4%BD%8D%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A9/

Japanese competitive evaluations, as well as... well, every community that isn't Reddit actually.

>>158813471
go for standard packs first, they make up the backbone of almost every deck

>>158809902
once in a blue moon it bursts you down quicker than the actually reliable aggro decks like sword

>>158813353
Priest of the Cudgel will never be nerfed unless they do a sweeping nerf of every 4 drop evolve card, including other offenders such as Dragon Warrior, Floral Fencer, and Playful Necromancer. He's fine, and when Haven sucked he wasn't exactly making them climb the ranks.
Haven's problem cards are Garuda and Aria. Shitters like to say Elana but that deck is very easily dismantled.

What's your favorite stage?

>>158810861
>I haven't let loose lately!

>>158811323
It doesn't see play right now. The only time I've ever seen someone use it in constructed, I got bursted down the next turn because of it. It's pretty gimmicky all in all, but I think it's actually a great card. It just isn't as good as the other cards that would want to utilize your fairies. If they ever nerf some of Forest's options, I could see Rose Queen becoming a thing.

>>158811314
>>158811418
Forest is better in every way.

>>158812950
>>158813589
Why did you both post for pre-DE?

>>158811080
>tfw you open 3 Otohime
You don't choose the cancer, the cancer chooses you.

>>158813578
Urias' story is pretty amusing in general since he strolls along with his hands in pockets beating up every other MC and watching them brooding and despairing over all sorts of stuff while he's just looking to have some fun in a fight.

Which packs are worth investing in more? Standard or DE?

>>158813902
Standard

>>158813589

my b then

>>158813589
the shadowverse攻略速報 website makes me want to gouge out my fucking eyes with a spoon

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I did it, I won!

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>That feeling when your Golds make you want to puke.

>>158813902

get standard packs only and then craft into DE.

DE packs are generally low value considering the low amount of cards and the rarity distribution of them

Can you immediately concede? I just played against someone who didn't do anything and it was too fast for an afk.

>>158814028
You better not reroll that, just dust some shit for the like 6 golds you need and play seraph control.

>>158808463
Post Erinyas evolved animated

Is it possible to beat the Elite AIs with default decks? What are the easiest ones to beat?

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>>158814028
>>158814136
I get at least 1 Seraph every reroll.

>>158813629
Honestly I think all of those cards should be nerfed. The evolve mechanic sounds so cool on paper, but cards like Cudgel and Floral Fencer just kill the mechanic because they get so much more value out of it than other cards. They don't have any real counterplay either and they come into play too early. I don't see what the problem would be with them all being 5 mana costs. They shouldn't be playable the first turn you have evolve. It's too much of a tempo swing.

>>158814067
yeah, i concede to let others win
i suck at the game anyways and maybe it makes someones day a little bit better

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>tfw

DOH IT'S CHILLY HER-
DOH IT'S CHILLY HER-
DOH IT'S CHILLY HER-
DOH IT'S CHILLY HERE

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>>158812097
>>158812428
I must admit, I was memeing with my post a bit.

Deck's broken, pic related:

>>158814404
So you're going to go 5-0 right

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bully loli vamps

>>158814238
Letting the person going first use it before the player going 2nd will probably tilt the winrates horribly in player 1's favor like before they added the extra card for player 2. Remember that the balance right now isn't that off, only about 2-3% for every craft, so a change that dramatic will probably break things because all you really did was let Player 1 use it on their first evolve turn instead of player 2.

Honestly, the last thing I want is for this to be like HS where if a strong aggressive list curves properly against you you're absolutely fucked. Player 2 needs to be able to swing the game at least reasonably early.

>>158814521
What a bad lolibat player.

>>158814619
shadow wins the matchup easy

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>>158814367
It's GOLLY you piece of shit.

>>158813629
They only need to nerf Aria. Increase the counter by 1 or something.

Garuda's pushed but Storm Haven is the worst performing deck in top 8 results. Every build runs Aria at 3, card is way too fucking good and nothing in the game answers it except Odin.

>>158814451
probably not, i just downloaded the game today

i was top 25 legend in hearthstone last season though, so i'll learn quicker than most

>>158814367
you fucked up

>>158814028
>>158814136
>>158814220
But no should I seriously keep this? I might have a gambling problem please stop me.

>ancient elf no longer has ward
>beastcall now costs 3 mana and 4 turns

would this fix forest and haven bullshit?

>>158813054
I want more snowman/ice themed cards.
Winter Runecraft deck when.

>>158814750
It's GOLLY?
Really? That doesn't sound anything like it.

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I did the math based on the shadowlog data from last week (275348 games).

going first win rate = 48.3%
going second win rate = 51.7%

It's balanced enough. Now shut the fuck up.

>>158814950
Might wanna get your ears checked

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>>158814367
>>158814950
It's GOLLY, are you serious?

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>>158815024

Are Shade Eris's lines bugged for anyone else after copying over the nip voices? She keeps playing this one english line about Balthazar's daughter.

>>158815024
If a little over three percent difference is balance then they definitely should not nerf any of the cards or classes in the game nor does anyone, but maybe Rune need buffs.

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>Tfw just changed from Rowen to Forte

Absolutely no regret

Alternate leaders is the best thing to happen to this game

I WILL SHINE
I WILL SHINE
I WILL SHINE
I WILL SHINE

I assume all eyes are on tia but to me cynthia is the true star of midrange

>struggle in arena first time
>get swordcraft second time
>3 easy wins
I don't even have any really good pulls

>cant play it on emulator, CPU doesn't support virtualization
>not available in my region so cant play on mobile
>get utter garbage roll
>gain and open like 15 packs and get garbage too
wow fun game, truly "skill" based

>>158815371
git_gud

>>158815024
Is this Master only or all ranks?

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>>158814874
In for a penny in for a pound.

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>>158815371
>Anon btfo before he even plays the game

>>158815491
>git gud
other people are also getting good but they got a headstart with their rolls, its wh yI can never get into these kinds of games.

>>158815371
When I first played my legendaries were Pluto, Atomy, and Satan. I didn't even know about rerolling.
I have 7 full meta decks now, including two Forestcraft ones.
Suck it up.

>>158815501
Everything

>>158815620
What about only Master?

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>>158814183
I don't have animated Erinyes
I'll see if I can reroll one out for you in the next 20 mins
Have a Vania in the meanwhile

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>>158812908
That was me just now.

Then I looked at my deck afterwards and realized I got triple Floral Fencer and somehow didn't notice/forgot (I thought I only had two at most) so it was never a bad draft to begin with.

I need help with story mode

I'm fighting the runecraft bitch as swordcraft. I have fought her like 20 times and I just cannot win. I don't understand how to beat her.

I might be autistic, but I cannot beat Urias's Chapter 9. I swear she has answers to everything I put out.

>>158815594
I bet you have played for ages or spent real money though.

Wait I have a question. If I have a Steam account with 44 tickets and I link it to my phone can I just reroll with that link? How does that work?

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>>158815816
And now I just opened this from the Arena pack.

Feels pretty good.

>>158815297
>Hey we just gave forestcraft a 6pp wind god with premium stats, what do you think?
>Pretty good, but we also need her to give you two fairies when she evolves. It's okay though, she'll only get +1/+1!
Everyone knows Cynthia is busted.

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>>158814404
>>158814451
Going well so far:

>>158816003
I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH HER

>>158814894
I honestly think dropping Ancient Elf to 2/2 would solve so many match up issues other decks have against elves. At 2/3 you can't trade against it unevolved max stats with evolved 4 drops which is ridiculous. Also opens it up to the variety of 3 defence removal spells after being hit by aggressive 3 drops.

Why are the Take-Two rewards so...Insubstantial? I honestly don't like it that much, but it doesn't even seem worth it to play 5 full-length games for a mediocre gold reward and the guaranteed pack. Should I just concede to get my pack?

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>>158816068
Relax anon

>>158816120

if you're not gonna go for winning then just buy the pack for 100g and ignore take two.

>>158816120
You're a fucking idiot

>>158816009
but tempo forest peaks at turn4

>>158815371
But seriously, get good.

Pick a craft and liquidate for better cards in it
(sword is cheap)

Do story for some fundamental cards you can use

Do pick 2 drafts

You'll find plenty of people shitty as you in multi-player. Don't sweat things too much, it's a game.

>>158816009
She's really strong but I honestly am okay with her existing just because it makes midrange forest a thing and she's their big wincon in a way, not counting roach because that's every fucking forest deck's alt wincon.

I'd rather see the other tools that are in literally every forest deck get hit, like Ancient Elf or Roach.

>>158815964
I only bought the crystal deals.
I should also note I never liquify cards unless they're duplicates because I'm a collector at heart, unless I really want a legendary. Then I'll liquify shitty golds.
I have been playing for a few months though, but I never had trouble on ranked or doing dailies. You really don't need a good reroll. You don't need a meta deck until rank A.
>>158816120
No. The rewards are fine. It's just 5 games.
Also they nerfed the take-two rewards when they introduced daily bonuses because it was way too easy to go infinite before.

I keep getting forest cards instead of what I want

Is it strong with a complete deck? I didn't enjoy the default deck

So what should I be doing with my gold?

>>158816304
Forescraft is literally the strongest class in the game. Both its decks are at the top of tier 1

>>158815727
Go first, 48.5%
Go second, 51.5%

https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/budget-aggro-shadowcraft

Hoe far can this shit take me, I can make it. What do I replace apart from Cerbs?

>>158816304

Forestcraft is bonkers, but really needs a lot of non-basic cards to be good.

>>158816441
Ah, so people weren't wrong to say it shrinks a little bit as you approach Master. I guess it's easier to use a 3rd evo point than it is to take advantage of 1st player tempo.

Anyone know why Isabelle's breasts were covered up in the English release? I know America considers lewd worse then violence but Isabelle isn't revealing that much in the Japanese version anyway.

>>158816484

Dance of Death x3

>>158816542
>I know America considers lewd worse then violence
you answered your own question anon, cygames thought it would alienate people, same reason why they switched the app icon from Arisa to muh kazoku man.

>>158816484
A0 just because you can hit A0 with anything

should I play Forte the moment I get enough mana or save her for overflow? She seems to die either way no matter what

>>158808062
Noob here, what's the reward for completing the forestcraft story or any story?

>>158816120
because it wouldn't be fair to reward people so much because they were lucky enough to draft sword

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>>158816059
fun mode

>>158816542

With the streamers keep getting fragged for playing a game with anime style? You better believe how delusional some assholes are in the internet.

>>158816730
Fair enough.

>>158816676
Depends on what deck you're playing against. If it's anything but Swordcraft, you should probably play her as soon as possible.

>>158816704
take two ticket, class cards and a class sleeve

>>158816516
I don't think there's a big difference between Master and other ranks. There's not enough recorded games to give accurate statistics. In general, the difference between going first and second is around 3%, however.

>>158816304
It's the Midrange Shaman of this game. Virtually no bad matchups, good removal, heavy stat followers entire turns before they should exist, infinite tokens, plenty of buffs, amazing cycle, and huge burst potential.

And like Shaman they've failed to balance it for an extremely long time now.

>>158815730
Thanks <3

>>158816542
Age ratings

Expose too much boob and you get a higher rating and less app store visablity

>>158815854
>story mode
>Erika's campaign
>against Isabelle
How can anybody be this bad? Seriously, git gud!

When would I take Dark Conjurer over Deadly Widow?

>>158816516
Really though, often there isnt much you can do with the first turn anyway for most decks

Perhaps if you are aggro, even then, 1 drops tend to be like...Ambling Wrath, Quickblader, Sacred Plea/Pinion Prayer and stuff like that, those dont really matter much

>>158816621
In the end, the steam version's icon is Arisa again, so wonder if they changed their mind

Though, Americans I know that are not as weebs as me or people I know tend to receive Rowen more favorably on top of Dragon's general tendency to shit out all the strong cards

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>>158814183
Not him, but I tried.
Eventually I'm going to try to run her in a deck, but I'm unsure how to still being new and all.

>>158815854

I just played it again and she only played one card in 6 rounds

before that...I don't understand what I was doing wrong to lose to her so much. every turn she could wipe out all of my followers and summon 2 or 3 of her own

You say git gud but...seriously...how? I played against that same deck for over an hour, I tried building one of my own, I just could not beat her until she got a stupid unlucky shuffle.

>>158816931
Always.

So does "watch a private match" not work?

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>no legendary in the last 30 packs
FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>tfw I do better with any other class than with sword in T2
What does it mean?

>>158816931

Deadly widow will be spending your Shadow when you really need them while Gonjurer can be just fine as a 2-drop.

>>158816753
this. It's even worse than it used to be. anime style and cute culture in general get immediately attacked and destroyed now. people see shadowverse and all they say is XD WEEBVERSE LUL

the localization team tried to give the game a more approachable image in America while also trying to censor as little as possible. Isabelle is a class character so you see her a lot and she's animated. I hate to say it, but they made the right choice seeing that they went full retard esports and paid people thousands of dollars to stream it to people who don't give a fuck about it

it's not the late 90s/early 2000s where anime was rising in the west. now people treat it as a meme and liking anime has to be ironic. thanks jojo

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>>158817107
>Got Pluto in my last 7 packs

FUCKING

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

PLUTO IS SHIIIIIIIIIIT

>>158817107
Welcome to TCGs.

Is the vampire gay?

>>158817102
You might have to be on the host's friends lists.

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Fairies are LEWD

>>158817181
He's battlesexual.

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>>158814451
>>158816059
>>158816749
can I do it???

>>158817294
just like one of my japanese animes

>>158812519
>Shadow's much more fucked by banish than it is by virtue of having weak cards.

Fixed.

>>158816871
> A month
> An extremely long time

Or are you just salty about PtP?

>>158817038
My wife. She's used in control blood.

>>158817330
yes anon i believe

>>158817330
BELIEVE IN THE HEART OF CARDS

>>158817181
It's honestly hard not to see it that way given the way they did the dialogue between him and Rowen. Not sure if that is how it comes off in the Japanese version as well

>>158817181
He's probably at least bi, since he's lived for so damn long, sexuality doesn't mean much to him anymore.

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>tfw your opponent topdecks the exact card they needed to win
>tfw it was Sylvan Justice

>>158817371
Got any examples? Don't really have any vials still, but I'm curious for if this lolibats thing doesn't work for me.

>>158817195
That doesn't seem to affect it, because I am

Guys, I made a Swordcraft deck, but I literally cannot beat the AI on experienced or Expert 1. At all. I'm at a 0-6 loss streak. I don't get how to play this game.

>>158817213
Fairies are big teases. Then they fuck you up with giant roaches if you try to pull any funny business.

rate my take 2

>>158817478

>turn 4
>topdeck elven princess mage

OUTPLAYED

>>158817639
10/10

>>158817631
post deck

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>>158817448
>Do you remember how many dicks you have sucked in your life?

>>158817631

>having problem against AIs

Go get yourself some Head Maids and build a Banner meme deck.

>>158817630
Not sure then, I've gotten it working before.

>>158817213
I wish I had a fairy to use as an onahole.

>>158817742
I don't really want to build a deck that someone else dictates, but I genuinely cannot win at all. I can't even win in the Take Two's I did for fun.

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So I get what aggro means, and what control means.
But what does mid range mean?

>>158817504
http://game-ai.jp/shadowverse/koroneko-type-control-vampire-2/

There is a lot of variance, I know I've seen some without her.

>>158817782
I wish I had a Crystalline Tia to bounce up and down and get off a bunch.

>>158817823
You play as control vs aggro and aggro vs control.

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>>158817823
>what is tempo?
>what is card advantage?
>what is control? midrange?
>what is...?

From Next Level Magic from Patrick Chapin "The Innovator"

Google his name if you don't know him, the guy knows his shit and is in the Magic Hall of Fame

>THE STAGES OF THE GAME
In a game of Magic, there are basically three stages of play that your strategy is operating at. Keep in mind, this is with regards to you or your opponent, but the two of you are not necessarily going to be at the same stage at the same time. Your stage is independent of theirs.

>STAGE 1
Stage 1 is the early game.
Your Minimum Game Threshold is the level at which your deck can operate on a basic level. For instance, many aggro decks only need three lands to be able to cast most of their spells.

>STAGE 2
Stage 2, or the mid-game, is essentially the most strategically relevant part of the game—and the one where the most relevant mistakes are generally made. Stage 2 is when players have the opportunity to play most or all of their spells, but the battles being fought are still relevant.
The mid-game is where the little battles are fought. These little battles are where percentage points are won and lost, setting players up with the best chance of either reaching a successful end game or ending the game before it comes to that.

>STAGE 3
A control deck, often seeks to win during the end game, or Stage 3; it wants to merely survive the early game in order to get to the point where they can play an appropriate Semi-Soft Lock.
a Semi-Soft Lock is an easy-to-reach set of conditions (which can be as simple as casting a single important spell) that will give you such an advantage that you will usually win most of your games when that condition is met.
A defining aspect of Stage 3 play is that very few of your opponent's cards matter, since they are severely limited in the ways that they can actually meaningful affect the board.

CONT.

>>158817803

>told others he can't win
>others give him advices
>"No, I don't want to build like you"

Well, why don't you be a prude and keep watching how the AIs pound your virgin ass, you self-entitled cunt? That's one way to know how to play this game. Jerk.

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>>158818028
CONT.

>THE BASIC ARCHETYPES

>CONTROL/PERMISSION
Control strategies generally seek to survive Stage 1, begin building advantages in Stage 2, and eventually reach a Stage 3 end game that will win the game for them. While these strategies tend to be somewhat reactive and tend to employ more powerful cards than many other strategies, they can typically be divided into “those with permission” and “those without permission.”
In general, most Permission-based Control decks rely on a good deal of card drawing to compliment either a boatload of Counterspells, or a token amount of permission and a nice selection of defensive control cards appropriate to a given format.

>LOCK DECKS
Lock decks are a particular brand of Control deck that heavily crosses over into the combo realm at times. The idea here is to create a game state where the opponent can no longer win. If they can no longer win, they generally eventually lose. Rather than resort to a degenerate Stage 3, these decks move to a Stage 2 where they are permanently locking the opponent in Stage 1.

>BURN
Stage 1 focussed decks, a Burn deck can mean a variety of things,where the idea is to have every card in your deck function like a Lightning Bolt, and quickly kill your opponent with direct damage, ignoring anything he does.
This strategy is particularly appealing to amateur players, but not as common among top players, as it removes almost any opportunity to leverage skill in any way during a match. In addition, it is easily foiled.
Modern-day burn decks are based on hyperaggressive low mana curves that typically select the most aggressive creatures in the format. These creatures are used to put early pressure on an opponent, while any creatures that might block are burnt out of the way. Once the opponent's life total is low enough, all of this direct damage provides the deck with some reach, giving them a plan to finish off an opponent who has set up their defenses.

CONT

>>158818028
oh god this copypasta

>>158818086
Sorry, it was just, I find it a lot more fun to slap stuff together and see how it works, but I didn't expect it to be THIS bad.

Should I scrap some cards to get enough juice to make a Royal Banner deck? The one I found costs 5050 from scratch, and I have around 26 of the cards needed.

>>158817167
No shit, the last 2 legendaries I unpacked were both Plutos. That makes 4 total, out of 19 total legendaries.

The only other one I even have duplicates of is fucking Skullfane

>>158818218
like clockwork

>ask for definition of tcg terminology
>get mtg wall of text

>>158817886
Damn that's not cheap, I've only got one of the legendaries there, though I have a decent amount of the golds.
Wish I knew japanese though, so I could understand that and get an idea of how to start it up.

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>>158818201
CONT.

>COMBO
It generally refers to a type of strategy that involves playing a combination of cards that wins the game.
Combo decks can be control or beatdown, and generally the difference is whether a combo deck tries to go off as fast as it can (beatdown) or it tries to survive a few turns while it sets up its combo (control).
As a beatdown deck, Combo can be extraordinarily effective, because often one can assemble a winning combination of cards faster than people can deal twenty damage with creatures.
As a control deck, Combo can also be very effective, as a combo kill often solves every problem a control deck might have.

>LINEAR AGGRO
Linear Aggro decks based on some inherent internal synergy among the cards chosen. The idea is that you are playing a bunch of quick aggressive cards that get better and better the more you have, each helping all of the rest.
Perhaps a better way to think of Linear Aggro is that it is a subcategory that can further define a deck. Generally, there are two types of Linear Aggro decks: there are those driven by creature type (Goblins, Allies, etc) and those driven by a mechanic (Affinity, Madness, etc).

>AGGRO CONTROL
An Aggro Control deck is one that seeks to deploy quick threats early and support them with a variety of control cards like permission, removal, and bounce. Against a Control deck, these support cards are used to protect the threats that the Aggro Control player plays. Against a Combo deck, the control cards are used to keep the Combo player out of Stage 3 long enough for the threats to defeat them. Against a beatdown player, the control cards are used to help create a position where the Aggro Control player has a reasonable control of the board.
Aggro Control decks attempt to do a better job of what it is that midrange decks strive to be—namely, beatdown against control and control against beatdown.
Tempo is often more important in these sorts of decks than in most others.

CONT.

>It's a Tia bounces up and down and gets off a bunch episode

>>158818023
Oh, so it's a middle of the road sorta build? Can play either.

>>158817631
Use a dragon deck and punch their face in. The AIs are pretty bad, those with" cannot be attacked" effects, the AIs don't target them even with spells.

>>158818439
Pretty much.

>>158818439
Yup.
If we wanna get really technical it's a subset of the aggro archetype with a fatter curve that allows it to not run out of steam in the late game and play defensively against actual aggro

>>158818436
>>158817918
Somebody explain this meme to me?

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It's so satisfy pulling a full 3 Vamp Fortress combo on the board.

>>158818471
Its more like I want to practice against players, so if I can't beat AI even 10% of the time...Yeah.

>>158817725
Tbh I sometimes have dreams where I can suck myself without effort.

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>>158818242

>5000 vials

I don't even know where you get that list.

Tsubaki can be replaced with another Veteran Lancer or whatever you want. The only must-craft Silver on that list are those 3 Head Maids.

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>>158818427
CONT.

>CARD ADVANTAGE
Card Advantage (or, more accurately, Card Economy) is one of the most important concepts in Magic.
Card Advantage is really just the positive side of the spectrum of a concept known as Card Economy.
Card Economy deals with the one primary resource that a Magic player has that is both initial (seven cards in hand) and residual (one draw phase every turn). Card Advantage, at its core, is about permanent resources, advantages that do not disappear on their own. Cards are the fundamental example, and every other sort of permanent advantage is spoken of in terms of “cards."
Whenever you summon a creature, cast a spell, or put any permanent into play, you are generally dealing with a variety of costs. The primary costs to a card are the casting cost (or land drop) and the card itself.
One of the most important concepts in all of Magic theory is that whenever you play a card, it is not just the casting cost that you are paying. You are also paying the card! When you cast a Giant Growth to power up one of your creatures, the Giant Growth is gone from your hand. You now have one less card to work with.
I know that this may come across as basic, but that is the point: we are talking about the basic building blocks of Magic. With a proper understanding of the basic components of Magic, we can better evaluate everything from in game decisions to deckbuilding to evaluating new cards that come out.

Every single card is either about giving you more and better options or denying your opponent options.
The idea is that cards are just ways that you spend mana and that the player who gets more mana worth of value tends to win at Magic.

CONT.

>>158818608
Alright, I'll copy that and make it then. Thanks.

Can I add Otohime in that deck? I got her, and she's one of my few good cards.

I also have 0 head maids

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>>158817330
>>158817381
>>158817406
5-0 baby!

Super lucky with my draft obviously, Olivia is totally broken, as is Jeanne D'Arc and Garuda to far lesser extents.

Interestingly, by far the hardest match was a mirror with Haven. Class seems really OP.

>>158818627
Why is it always Avacyn?
>>158818543
Play Tia after two cards to get full value.
Bounce Tia back to your hand.
Repeat.
A standard Forest strategy.

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>>158818627
CONT.

TEMPO

As we just saw, card advantage is so very tricky because it deals with a resource that you both start the game with (seven cards) and gain over time (a card a turn). Tempo is actually much simpler, though there has actually been a lot less written on it. As a result, it is more commonly misunderstood than card advantage.

Tempo deals with the resources that you gain every turn, but do not possess initially. The most common of these is mana. The most important thing to remember about Tempo is that it is all of your resources that are temporary (hence the name). These are advantages that will dissipate naturally.
At the beginning of a game you have no mana and no ability to generate mana. During Stage 1, you just don't have the mana you need to work with. As the game progresses, you are able to build up your resources to a point where you can actually cast your spells. This is Stage 2 and the most common way of getting there is by playing land.
Tempo is more than just the mana spent on spells, however. It is the manipulation of any resource that you gain over time, but do not start with. This can include the playing of land, untapping permanents, attack phases, and so on, as well as denying your opponent of these.

The key to understanding tempo is to evaluate everything in terms of how much this resource is worth right now. To take tempo away from your opponent is to give yourself tempo, but this matters not at all if you don't do anything with it.
Tempo is only worth what you can do with it.
When you are building a tempo-based deck, the key is to figure out what advantage you are gaining as a result of the tempo you are producing. A Faeries deck gains tokens and cards, but also very much tires to take advantage of all of the extra attack phases it gets.
If you are trying to figure whether or not to throw away resources in a game for temporary gain, ask yourself what you are doing with that tempo anyway.

>>158818627
i want to have lots of CONSENSUAL SEX with avacyn

Is there a liquefying guide?

>>158818556
>get vamp fortress and vania combo

>>158818746
>Class seems really OP.

I thought that distinction was for Forestcraft, given the HS Shaman comparisons.

>>158818860

Reddit has one.

inb4 reddit

>>158818926
Thanks anon

>>158818746
Also wtf the reward is only 280 gold and 1 pack?

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Is this bullying?

>>158818860
Liquify everything that isn't a cute loli

How does face dragon do against banner sword?

>>158819020
CUTE CUTE CUTE!

>>158819020
Why is >vania such a semendemon?

>>158818987
>Pays for almost 2 more arena runs and a pack
>Only

>>158816851
The biggest difference is rune getting fucked by going first which makes sense since the more cards they draw the more spells they have to boost or boost with

>>158818987
I only got 200g and a pack for my last one, huge let down.

>>158819020
I want to irrumatio Vania

>>158818902
Forest is great in constructed but terrible in take two.
Forest also isn't nearly as OP as Shaman, that's just silly. It even takes skill to play so you don't see it a lot until high ranks.

>>158818987

The worst you can get is the following
>200 gold
>1 pack
>50 vial (Read: Salt)

The best I have gotten
>200 gold
>2 packs

Shit happens, anon. At least you get the gold for 2 more times.

>>158818557
Well, the AI top decks most of their cards when i face them so it's kind of hard to practice against them in my case. You can always set up a room and ask if someone is interested in having a private match or something

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So whats the pick here? I feel like wyrm spire is shit in take two, but I'd assume fafnir is pretty good? At the same time genisis dragon is good as well and I can actually use dragonnewt scholar

Is deathly tyrant any good? Seems like 20 necromancy would be hard to get

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>>158818746
Wow, got lucky with my pack too!

Is this good or should I disenchant?

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>All of Rowen's voice commands while transformed are [ROAR]

>>158819194
That's smart, but I'm a bit shy. Good idea though.

>>158819245
Forte is Dragon's best legendary

>>158818702
Otohime is a bit of a waste since you can't get all of them on the field due to the Banner and she/they don't get boosted by Banner on top of her being a Commander making her a target for Maid Leader when you want to search Banner with Maid most of the time.

I don't think adding one of her if you like her a lot would hurt too much since you still get tons of value and she'd be great in the scenario that crops up every now and then where you can't draw into or search Banner.

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>>158818819
>Why is it always Avacyn?

Because she is cute.
Really really cute.

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>>158816896
>Go into steam shadowverse to see if data can be wiped
>There's a file named "Sava data deleter"
>"I can delete my data now, I'll just relink it later"
>Game refuses to accept link code anymore
fuck me, gotta contact support now
at least i managed to get qt elena in webm form

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>Try Forest Elite expecting to get crushed
>Instead get perfect(?) lethal play
I can't figure out if I got lucky, if the deck used wasn't very good compared to other elites, or if lolibats is good against forest (Which feels likely due to the whole needing to play multiple spells to do good stuff thing)

That aside, is that take 2 mode a good thing to pop my vs virginity to?

>>158819302
Roger, alright, thanks. I copied your deck, but I need 600 vials for the Maid Leaders, so I can't use that for a while. Could scrap one of these crappy Legendaries though. Should I give Pluto the axe?, but I'll put it into work soon.

>playing the long game ptp vs elana control
>11 cards in deck
>3 of those are ptp
>topdeck an altered fate and drop some cards to avoid decking myself out
>get 1 ptp
>3 cards left in deck
>2 of those are ptp
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At least I still managed to win off just the one.

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Shadowverse deck tracker when?

>>158819425
It's just that Forest Elite is absolute shit. It relies on the classic Rose Queen meme combo which is way too slow (especially against that bat deck).

If you have any experience of draft mode in TCGs then arena will be fine. Otherwise, you might be better off just hitting some ranked.

>>158819302
Just popping in to ask, what should I look for in the opening hand? Any few cards that I should hang onto, or hope to get?

I wish you got rupies for winning ranked games other than the achievements.