AGDG - Amateur Game Development General

>>158778573
Fuck off shill

>>158778573
The OP of the other is against the rules, might get deleted

>>158779019
The other thread was made by a faggot advertising his game. Report it and move here.

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Started on a shoot-em-thangs game after playing a Neo Geo shooter called Viewpoint. It's too hard for me, but the music and visuals are pretty dope.

I'll call this thing Exometric for now. I already thought of a gimmick, but I'll have to see if it works out.

>>158779897
It's like a shmup?

Looks funky.
Does that game do something interesting with the perspective? Do things fly upwards or anything.

>>158780084
that was a little hars don't you think?

>>158779897
Is it controlled by up+down or left+right?

>>158780157
Just the looks are isometric, actually flying up and down to dodge or hit is annoying as hell I think. There was another old arcade game that did that.

the absolute state of janny

>>158780469
OP was advertising his game

Janny did good

>>158780523
oh i didn't even notice

>>158780523
Why are people such cunts?

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>>158780393
Pressing up goes in the camera up direction, right is camera-right, if that is what you mean.

>>158780946
Kind of, it was a bit of a stupid question that assumed movement was only in one dimension.

Ok, well since the other thread got deleted:

I'm working on an oldschool-style pure text adventure.

Basically what I have so far is this:
You are locked in a medieval-style church complex, starting in the narthex. There is a courtyard in the center, which leads to an altar, chapel, and hallway going further into the building. Behind the altar is a false wall, which conceals the holy-of-holies, within which is a golden Idol as well as a stairway leading to a natural hot-spring. The idol is what kicks off the central mystery of the game.
It's more of an atmospheric deal than anything else, focused on exploration and learning about the history of this spooky abandoned church. Lots of my inspiration comes from old Babylonian and Sumerian religious ceremonies.

The commands I have implemented right now are take, drop, use (x) on (y), look/look at, read, and go (for movement), but I'm working on full sensory information as well (taste, smell, touch, etc.)

Do you think this kind of thing would be recieved well? I'm trying to make a text adventure that side-steps the usual level frustration associated with the genre, but I'm not sure if anyone would even want to look at a barebones text-only experience in 2016.

>>158780946
please change the POV before you do anything else with your game

The Wonderful 101 had a shoot em up section with an isometric viewpoint too and it was GODAWFUL.

>>158781336
Like I was saying in the other thread, it has to be a really good interactive story that is on the same level as novels while also being incredibly interactive. Have to be able to do ANYTHING I want.

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The start of a new adventure.

How hard is making good hack and slash combat in Gamemaker? I'm still a babby and if it's not worth it I don't want to go down that road.

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Well it's been decided. Thanks to the people last thread, I have decided to reduce my open world game in scope to a single town with wilderness abound.

Thanks.

>>158781538
Game development looks overwhelming!

>>158781356
Disagree, that POV is refreshing and new

>>158778221
boat jam 2 when?

>>158781592
Nice, reducing scope is a good thing I believe.

>>158781546
read the aztez devblog first before your pleb ass gets to work on anything beat em up related. very informative stuff

>>158781538
emacs splits, tmux and tiling window managers are a godsend.

>>158781845
Thank you onii-chan

Hey guys. Check out my game, Spook 2: The Lords of Spook on the Halloween game jam page. Lemme know what you think!

>>158781448
So how many verbs do you think I should have handling for? To what extent can I trust the player to give the interpreter the benefit of the doubt?

ie should I bother implementing obscure things like "climb," "throw," or "kick?" because that's a lot of work and I don't wanna ; _;

>tfw no sailing game

>>158782640
AGDG had 20 seafarers and they're all dead

>>158782163
Pretty good, camera controls are bad, but fuck the spookinatti.

>>158781845
how is a 3d game going to help in anyway with his 2d game maker game?

Does posting art count as progress or should I wait a few years when it's presentable

>>158782917
aztez is played in a 2D plane and his tips on beat em up animations and player mindset are invaluable for any game designer

How do you guys come up with ideas for visuals? I know what kind of object I need to make but wha t should it look like?

>>158783223
It counts

>>158782792
agdg has had 20 projects about everything that are all dead

>>158783328
look at art and paintings

or just go pixelshit for 2D/cel shading and low poly for 3D like everyone else

>>158780414
Zaxxon

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how long would it take to make this as a 1MA?

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>>158782640
>tfw used to sail dinghies on the international circuit and have a great deal of high performance yacht racing as well
>tfw have gamedev experience
>tfw no interest in making a sailing game

>>158784013
years,

make a polished section of the game
then go all in if your ducks are lined up, and bring others on

otherwise you may need to drop

>>158783841
>Chatrooms are cancer
>Water actually wet
What else can we expect at 11'?

>>158784035
DELET THIS
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>>158781630
>refreshing and new

>>158784035
>implying people want a realistic sailing game

>>158784169
Compared to the amount of zombie survival games in 'existence', WWII shooters are refreshing and new.

>>158784013
Nobody could answer how long, but you could do it if you're good at modelling. Half the work would be just modelling the environments. The gameplay is essentially 2D.

For moving on stairs, should I just move diagonally and make sure all my steps are square, or make it more complicated to account for wider or taller steps?

Has there been a single promising game from AGDG this past year?

>>158784252
Farming Simulator and Euro Trucker sales show that there is definitely a market for "zen"-games.

>>158784659
Yours

>>158784659
gogem's dead detective game sounded cool

infinite evidence

>>158784659
Yeah mine

>>158784659
Whateverthefuck bartender game, maybe?

>>158784659
everytime I visit agdg I ctrl + F my "game name". if i get 0 results i leave.

>>158784013
I'm trying the same sort of concept to make my levels in a 2D game.

I got all the assets, but even with them it's taking fucking forever.

>>158784912
what is taking so long?

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>>158706668
Looking moderately dope if I do say so myself. Still need to make the guns though.

>Google for advice in Godot
>Even combining it with engine and so forth still includes some obscure article about a farming community putting on a caricature of Beckett's work.

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To 1MA yesdevs who've finished a game here, how long did it take you?

>>158785267
6 years

>>158784906
And we will continue to never know what it is.

>>158784678
Exactly, I don't think Euro truck is such an accurate reflection of trucker life that it requires a real trucker to develop the game.

People want to sail about doing the vague actions they are aware are involved in sailing a boat, checking the wind, hoisting stuff, not [insert actual parts of sailing which I don't know about because I don't sail, and neither do they]

>>158785323
wat gaem?

>>158785181
you'll be waiting for tutorials for forever

>>158785267
current year + 5

>>158784158
I actually would be interested in a sailing game but I'm more interested in other ideas right now.

>>158784252
People seem to like realistic car games.

>>158784678
>implying it would be "zen"

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Are there no good Monogame tutorials? All I could find were either incomplete/abandoned or very outdated.

>>158783497
AGDG is dead

>>158785412
I'd look to Train Simulator. I haven't played it but running a train is more complicated than running a truck or a tractor, and I know some of the players would point out any little inconsistency between the models and their real-life inspiration.

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>can't stop chicken scratch
>can't stop symbol drawing
>need more loomis
>need more everything
>can't use tablet for shit
But at least I drew today

>>158785459
I'm not really looking at tutorials, the demos and documentation are - most of the time - sufficient. It just annoys me that when looking for a bug and workaround or some semi-obscure practice, you find one and only one entry on godotengine.fart, the rest is "Was Samuel Beckett sucking his mummies tits at 37?".

soo is unity free or what?

>>158784735
Its too bad he's so shit at making games that look like games instead of UI (other than RRPS)

>>158784912
Instead of making a level directly usable, you actually build the level, and then still need to make it compatible in your RE type of game. It all depends on however you want to treat the light effects and shit.

I'm only speaking on the typical way of making RE type of backgrounds. Making a RE clone directly in a 3D motor and not exporting it for "2D" will be faster.

>>158785782
nothing to be done

>>158785886
"yes"™

>>158785412
I guess most players would want to bring a girl or two, you know, because of the implication...

>>158785886
Yes, but you need to have a splash in your game and send them your fiscal earnings and they'll come to check for themselves.

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someone tell me what to put in my game next so i have an obligation to a random stranger on the internet rather than having only personal goals which i never meet

>>158785886
Affirmative*

>>158786035
A dragoness you can romance

>>158786208
disgusting

>>158786243
You looking at a mirror, m8?

>>158786393
no im looking at your post

>>158786035
well what's in it already?

>>158785886
yeah but the game will run and look like shit, but hey it's free right?

>>158786572
Did you see yourself in it?

>>158786621
pretty much only that you can see

>>158786861
no i just thought the idea of romancing a dragoness is disgusting

>>158787146
Does that idea remind you of yourself on any level?

>>158785886
it's free up until you make 100k in profits, in which case you'll have to use unity Plus, which is a subscription based payment of $35 a month or $420 a year.

after 200k profits, you have to use unity pro, which is $125 a month or $1500 a year. there is no revenue cap for this.

reminder, this is per seat, meaning each individual computer that uses unity is $125. so if you have two computers with unity, then its $250 a month for pro.

no, don't try to pirate/cheat. they will audit your shit and fuck you over.

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Give me halloween jam ideas lol

>>158787270
not really i dont have much in common with romance let alone dragoness

>>158787343
Combine ingredients to create a procedurally generated potion
Literally billions of combinations!

>>158787529
Your subconscious knows better than you do.

>>158787594
why do you defend romancing dragoness so much

>>158786890
so... add more rooms, more buildings?
what does [2] [4] mean? maybe make that more clear

>>158787673
Because I love you, anon.

>>158787327
I just read their plans.

Unity is open source for pro/enterprise plans? interesting.

>>158787723
rooms and """buildings""" are randomly generated so theres hardly anything to add
[2] [4] is an awesome table used for debugging

>>158787795
at least someone does

>>158787914
what are the controls like?
>>158787529
>>158787594
>>158787673
>>158787795
this is like a bad anime

>>158787343
cute witch girl letting me tickle and suck her feet

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Yet another day in blender hell.

Could someone explain why all my weight paint is blue (automatic weight parenting)?
It's clearly affecting my mesh, but I can't see where.

Please send help

>>158788356
blue means 0 weight
red means full weight

>>158788498
Yes?
So why is my paint all blue?

>>158788560
because by default the armature has no weights assigned. I think you should read a tutorial on weight painting before starting.

>>158783841
roflmao

>>158788063
the fuck you mean controls
ever played a roguelike?

>>158788685
It clearly does, though.
Have a look at the gif I posted.

Phew. The entire day of messing around with textures and materials. doing research, etc. Made little progress besides gaining some exp. It's hard to get the results I want for some reason, even with lots of tutorials and explanations online. Guess I'll have to follow them to the letter when making my own textures.

For fun I'll reward myself with making some fun cloth physics thing by tutorial. Cloth physics on your character make it automatically better right?

>>158788796
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m40S0W5ugJo

>>158789251
Please stop being an idiot any time, Anon.

I assigned automatic weight painting, and the bones do deform the model - However, switching to weight painting mode shows everything in blue, so I can't see where the automatic paint has ended up.

I need to see where it is, so I can subtract the areas I don't want affected (such as the shoulder being affected by the upper arm bone).

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I think it should be easy, I mean I can do it with pen and paper, but I'm not sure about the C++ method.

I would like to "trim" any number to a floating point one starting with 0. So 9 becomes 0.9, 10 becomes 1.0 and so on. It's basically just dividing by 10, but I'm not sure how to do it. Basic division lets you have an integer, and the remainder division (%) lets you have, well, the remainder if there's any.

In SFML is there any difference between drawing a bunch of stuff to the window individually and drawing a bunch of stuff to a texture then just putting that texture on a square and drawing that square to the window?

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Question: In Godot using GDScript, I want to utilise a Timer, which I create dynamically. Timers emit a 'timeout' signal when finished. I want to extend that signal to pass the Timer's wait time variable to connected nodes.
My approach is to create a class ER_Timer that extends Timer.

How do I modify the signal emitting part of the native Timer to include a variable as argument?

>>158789598
That has nothing to do with sfml specifically.
You normally draw to textures for post processing or any other effects.
Otherwise you can draw directly to the backbuffer (window).

is there anyone who would like help with art assets?

Id like to see how someone goes about using them in their code

>>158789528
>and the bones do deform the model - However, switching to weight painting mode shows everything in blue
This is beginner shit.
It's explained in the video. Watch >>158789251

When you select a bone in weight paint mode, it will show the weights assigned to it. It's as simple as that. Guess you'll learn the hard way.

>>158788356
you can show the topology too there may be issues with your model just from looking at the deformation

>dragonesses
>cute witch girls
>skellies censoring tittays
I'm trying to dev here, anons

>>158779897
>>158781356
>>158780946
I think the viewpoint is potentially really good, I'm making an isometric shmup-style game myself. It is harder to sync the input to the action in a way that has the right weight, reaction etc but it's possible.

One thing I will say, I think the scale of your units vs. the size of the screen is off, there's very little room to react unless the speeds you move at are quite slow (aka boring).

But overall I'll try to keep an eye on this.

>>158784169
Looks cool to me.

>>158788356
Don't know sh!t about blender but I like your model

>>158789567
float trimmed = (float)yourInt / 10.0f
do I get a prize?

>>158789567
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12447325/dividing-two-integers-to-produce-a-float-result

>>158790317
>Id like to see how someone goes about using them in their code
drawImage(x,y)

>>158790501
The problem is that it does not.

7:20 is the point in the video that deals with it.
He can select bones and have them show the corresponding weight paint. Mine is all blue.

>This is beginner shit.
Oh really. Maybe that's because I'm a beginner?
You're a cunt, Anon.

>>158790848
Possibly. I'll try looking around on my own a bit.

>>158790878
Thanks!

Is art the ultimate bottleneck for one man army?

Every feature I want to implement is stalled by the need for art assets

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>>158789759
I'm taking that back. As is often the case, I found a suitable answer shortly after posting this. Wouldn't occur to me after an hour of research though, nah, that'd be too helpful.

lets talk about identifying items

do you prefer games (roguelikes especially if not only) where scrolls and potions have to be identified by risky usage or games where all items are always identified and you know what youre doing

>>158785782

When I used Godot, the IRC was the best source for help. It was pretty active and I'm sure it has grown a lot since last year. The main dev was also a big help there as well, his name was reduz.

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>>158790878
>>158790961
Thanks!
Do you accept best mage as payment for your services?

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>>158785550
It's been long enough, bumping this question because I really need help.

>>158791059
Generally yeah but depends on your project of course, I'm sure art isn't the bottleneck of Dwarf Fortress, both because the art is "simple" and because the code is a fukken monster.

>>158791585
Yes that's adorable

>>158791059
pick one
1: simple art style
2: placeholder art

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>>158791585

>>158791585
>ass fangs
muh

>>158791595
Dude, monogame is xna.
Any tutorials for xna should apply.

>>158791585
>those thighs
Hnngh

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Screen flash when you pick up items like keys. Also, show keys that the player has in the HUD.

What do people think of the flash? Should the fade speed or starting brightness be changed?

Anyone here used Jenkins with Unity for CI?

>>158791883
Oh... OK.

>>158791943
>not have the flash emanate from where the keys are located in the UI
When the whole screen flashes it's confusing to know what happened unless you know to look in the bottom left.

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>>158791049
>The problem is that it does not.
For starters, you don't weight paint in texture mode. Second, the weights are clearly there, else the arm wouldn't deform at all. If it's not showing, then you're not selecting something correctly. Can't help a complete dumbass.

>You're a cunt
I'm not the one calling others idiots. Now fuck off with your shit model.

>>158791943
Why is the flash this cyan color? I prefer white, or if you really want to have it a color, let it be the color of the key. Also, flash is not enough for me usually: I love it when there's some sweet sound effect when I pick up things.

>>158792192
>For starters, you don't weight paint in texture mode.
That's why I am in weight paint mode.

>Second, the weights are clearly there, else the arm wouldn't deform at all.
That's what I've been saying all along.

>then you're not selecting something correctly
Obviously.

>>158792173
I'm thinking of having the key start in the center and then move to the bottom left.

>>158792213
I might do white, or Quake's yellow. Doing the color of the key isn't good because players might think they got hurt after getting the red key.

And yes, there is a sound effect when getting a key.

>>158792061
Good luck

>>158792464
>That's why I am in weight paint mode.
You're in texture display mode, hence the 'texture' being visible.

>Obviously.
Then you should obviously know the solution.

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Made a fishing rod model and some basic mechanics, still I need twi tweak the values and look how actual fishing works and stuff.

Also I am not sure how set up where the fish are in the lake and where not and what kinds of fish and make it change over time.

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>>158792628
Thanks. You too.

>>158792850
>You're in texture display mode, hence the 'texture' being visible.
The texture being visible in object mode has nothing to do with it, m8
I switch from object mode to weight paint mode, like you're supposed to.

>Then you should obviously know the solution.
Why the fuck would I ask if I knew the solution?

I figured it out, by the way, so I'll be ending this conversation here.
Your smug attitude makes you seem like a dumbass when you don't actually know the answer to a question.

>>158793204
You seem kinda mad my dude. Maybe you should go for a walk.

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Working on overworld stuffs now that combat foundation is finished.
Testing some sounds, squishy effects, dialog system changes.

Audio: https://a.uguu.se/btLTnS3piDuh.webm

>>158793773
Maybe I should!! >:(

>>158793204
>The texture being visible in object mode
It can make it difficult to see the weights. You don't paint in texture display mode. I never said it was the solution. Read.

>Then you should obviously know the solution.
>I figured it out

Wow, What a fucking surprise.

>Your smug attitude
>is ignorant and doesn't want to watch/read basic instructions on how to weight paint or select things correctly
>gets butthurt when called out on it

Right. Good day

>>158793831
BRING BACK DICKBUTT

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you can't have a game without barrels

>>158793831
I can't even feel excited anymore, you drop promising stuff too often

>>158794431
I don't like their shape

>>158794431
I like this drastically more now that it has barrels.

Does it still have motion blur?

>>158793831
Those jumps look awful satisfying

>>158792983
I don't like fishing, I don't like ice/snow-themed environments, and this is still the coolest thing ever to me. You're onto something special here.

>>158794431
Why is everything so shiny? Is this the Doom 3 engine or something?

>>158794704
>Why is everything so shiny? Is this the Doom 3 engine or something?
It's your mom's greasy ass.

>>158794538
what's wrong with them?

>>158794553
Thanks, motion blur has been removed

>>158794704
it's london, everything is wet.

>>158794431
Do they explore?

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>Can't even make simple dungeon crawler controls work with a state machine
I want to stab myself to death with a spoon

>>158789567
Can't you just typecast it and multiply by 0.1?

>>158794932
Maybe ditch unity and build your own engine.

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Thanks for the tip anons. Still needs some tweaking but am very happy with the result.

>>158794932
Sorry you have to hear this, but Unity makes developing games with non-trivial timing (e.g. turn based) a nightmare, as you're not allowed to touch the main loop.

>>158784013
>>158784138
>>158784325
>>158784912
din't an anon here made a similar thing only in days?
pretty sure u can 1MA it if u work full time on the game and u will be done about 6 months to 9 months later.

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I want to make a game but I'm creatively bankrupt.

I guess I'll just clone things and steal ideas.

>>158795901
There is literally nothing wrong with well made 'clones' for under-saturated genres

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>>158795318

You mean this webm? I also made this for gbjam, which is basically downgraded first person resident evil

https://virtuawave.itch.io/ultimate-evil

>>158795901
Look where being obsessed with innovation led Nintendo to.

>>158796018
You're right, I'll try to revitalize some of my old favorites that were forgotten by time.

>>158793831
what game engine are you using?

>>158796169
I think the Switch isn't actually that bad of an "innovation", its gimmick is not a gameplay/controls gimmick like the previous ones so it's already miles better.

It can go either way though, either we'll see a Nintendo renaissance or the dark ages will get only darker.

>>158796019

So how did you get this jagged look? No AA and low res textures is all?

learning famitracker is fun once you get used to the nuances. im recreated one of my older songs in it and im having a blast.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1dFeFHJs8UP

>>158781592
you'll be a lot happier anon. scope is important and its really easy to lose it

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I added ladders, but I don't have the climbing animation yet. They work like you'd expect: you can move up and down them, but not left or right. You can stand on the tops, but if you jump you'll fall through instead. You can also jump onto and off of them.
Also I've officially abandoned elevators because they are glitchy pieces of shit and I couldn't find a way to fix them. If I hadn't given myself such a strict deadline then I may have tried to make them work, but as it is they've been cut.

>>158797465
you probably want to set the player x position to the middle of the ladder.

>>158795269
>Sorry you have to hear this
no you're not, you massive faggot

>>158797281

In Unity I render to a RenderTexture with ps1 resolution and the texture filter set to point.

My game won't be finished in time for the Halloween jam. There are only 4 levels and a tutorial, the whole thing can be finished in like 5 minutes.
Should I upload it anyway?

>>158797593
Am I wrong?

>>158797680
no, but keep talking about it tho

>>158796219
GMS

>>158797680
Yes. Never give up anon! You put the work in, so see it through to the end! There's no point in developing something just to drop it because you don't think it has enough content.
If you're passionate about having more content, then just update it later. But make sure you submit it regardless!

>>158797752
the veracity of your critique was not called into question

>>158797946
Is nobody allowed to criticize Unity?

>>158797919
It wasn't really supposed to be anything huge, I just wanted to take a break from my main game and make something for Halloween. I guess if it gets enough positive feedback >implying I might make some more levels.

>>158788763
>the fuck you mean controls
how do you interact with the game
>ever played a roguelike?
honestly no, but you have to have some means of interaction

>>158798042
he's going to keep playing dumb about why he (actually) replied to you because the only thing he explicitly addressed was whether or not you were sincerely sorry about telling that person that bit of information

>>158782640
>>158778221
fuck I want to make a sailing game

>>158799097
Make an ocean shader and then I'll tell you if you're allowed

>>158799097
>>158799171
or just use superior engine with OceanProject plugin.

>>158795269
That's not actually true, please refrain from spreading misinformation. You just need to right a simple class that handles turns as you would with any other engine.

>>158795269
This is false.

>>158794897
no, they dont have legs

>>158798042
Most people that use unity don't know any better and defend it to death

How should I set up my timestep?

Right now it runs 10,000 times per millisecond, as I understand it most games run at 64 or 128 tick. Does it matter at all? Game seems to be running just fine

I also remember you're supposed to separate your timestep from framerate but I am not sure how to test that

>>158801180
>10,000 times per millisecond
Isn't that 10 GHz?

>>158801303
I assume not since we aren't measuring frequency

>>158778221
Does anyone need music? I'm looking for a project to work on. I'd prefer an RPG but anything would do. Here's my work:
https://soundcloud.com/soravme

Let me know friends. Been wanting to get back into games for a while.

>>158800568
Most engines are just as bad, though. It's either you shoehorn your turn-based system into the real-time framework using e.g. an FSM, or you have your own main loop that means you now can't use a ton of built-in stuff.

You'd think Unity would have a leg up due to advertising "coroutine" support (as a MUCH nicer way to do a state machine) but they're not even real coroutines so too bad.

>>158801586
great! what engine?

>>158801180
1/60 seconds is mine

>10,000 per ms
Are you insane

>>158800568
>>158801643
Also, I'm pretty sure there's nowhere you can inject code outside of a game object's component. So you have the choice between breaking OOP or having zero power.

>>158801752
my understanding is that updates take longer than that but you just immediately call the next update function when the first is finished

>>158802240
You do not need to do 10000 updates per ms, that's ridiculous

>>158802597
that's just the default for xna

Where's the spooky games

>>158795269
Making a dungeon crawler is super easy in unity

is the thread dead?

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>>158804585
If you want a horror atmosphere game that's not a thriller, I'm making one.

>>158805471
busy w/ dev

>>158805526
Something looks wrong with the blade of that scythe.

>>158805526
>Death listens to The Protomen

>tfw lots of good ideas but no skills or resources to make them

>>158805990
You are an idea guy.

>tfw two shitty ideas and shitty skills but lots of time and resources

>>158805526
I can't see the Reaper's head as anything except a cow head.

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>>158805674
It's very fat bladed.

>>158806162
She looks like pic related from the front

halloween jam was a mistake

>>158806332
it's not over yet

>>158790961
now how does that factor in collision detection, smart guy

>>158805990
gamemaker and unity are both free to download and have vast libraries of tutorials available you retard

>>158807138
Collision detection is separate from rendering

>>158806332
>previous jam was a disaster
>the jam before that was a disaster
>the jam before that before was also a disaster
You really shouldn't be expecting anything good coming from here in the first place.

Speaking of which, it has been 2 years. Where are all the godly 1MA games? You did say that being 1MA was everything right? So where are the games?

>>158807531
The only disaster was lewd jam.

>>158807953
boatmecha jam is the definition of a disaster

>>158808073
What about zelda?

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holy fucking shit
30+ minutes of running around because my dumb ass did this:
step = {x = vertical, y = horizontal}

>>158807409
bet you can't give proofs

>>158808269
I'm not spoonfeeding

>>158808335
Hah! I knew it!

>>158808269
do you not know what a bounding box is? How exactly do you think collision detection is done?

>>158808415
You tell me, professor
I'll wait

>>158808552
no dude you are being rude
under normal circumstances I would be happy to help you though

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new to programming, buddy told me c++ was good start off, I think i'm having too many classes.

>>158808698
>dun dun dun
>ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!

>>158808779
Just use rpg maker

>>158808149
I wasn't around for zelda, how bad was it?

>>158808857
will that help me learn OOP?

>>158808913
No it'll help you do exactly what you have in your webm in 5 seconds so you can make game.

>>158808903
5 entries

>>158808779
>C++
roflmao

>>158809026
i dont wanna use some cookie cutter fucking bs program that does all the magic behind the scenes without the fucking brain-dead user knowing at all whats going on, fucking A

>>158809273
> the elitism of a nodev in full effect

>>158809273
Okay then stick with c++ sfml, you'll learn a lot.
Go deeper and learn opengl if you really want to learn behind the scene stuff.

>>158809026
I'm begining to think agdg is nothing but unity monkeys that think they can "program"

>>158809402
That's not true!

Just don't look at all these Unreal blueprints.

>>158809402
That's why RPGMG was kicked out into its own thread. Everyone railed on it constantly as a 'babby engine'.

>>158809273
You're right

Start with Z80 Assembly my man
Don't listen to these memers

>>158809492
To be fair, isn't RPGMaker a tool for putting out one game and one game only with a bunch of different dresses on?

>>158809492
Which is amazing. Their thread is slow but have a good amount of passable to good games being created at a good rate.

Meanwhile, what do we have?

>>158809642
>passable and good games
Name three.

>>158809642
>Meanwhile, what do we have?
Source memes

I can't draw for shit so relyon rpg maker tilesets, all the coding i do is purely c++/sfml lemme know if anyone wants to see what I got so far, trying to do a simple Resdien't evil-Like game

>>158809774
Show me, daddy.

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>>158809593
RPGMaker is a tool for doing whatever you want as of RMMV and even in RMVXA there were lots of adventure games and even the occassional dance/rhythm/strategy/roguelike game.

It's only for putting out one game with a bunch of different dresses if that's all the creator wants to invest into it.

RM doesn't have to be ugly. RM doesn't have to be JRPG. Just like GM:S doesn't have to be Platformer and Unity doesn't have to be Slenderclone/FPS.

>>158810095
>Unity doesn't have to be Slenderclone/FPS.
Gosh I hope so, since Yooka Laylee is being made on it.

Can you guys stop shitting on Unity? There's NOTHING wrong with it, especially if you're a hobbyist.

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>>158788356
I didn't yet scroll down to see if you fixed this yet anon, but two things;

1. Usually there are deformation bones near where the collar bones are in a human to help with the deformation in that area.

2. When you parent a mesh to an armature, blender automatically creates a vertex group with the same name as the bone. The weighting information for that bone is stored in that vertex group. I put together this quick webm to show ya.

>>158809642
So, if I want my game to succeed (and if it will it's going to take a very long time) I should steer clear of here?

>>158810186
I'm not shitting on Unity. I haven't really seen any 'more than one person' shitting on Unity in the last fifteen posts even. My post >>158810095 isn't shitting on Unity - it's shitting on people's expectations of Unity.

>>158810186
Found our resident Unity shill
How much they paying you my man?

>>158810286
I've launched a couple games onto Steam and have done a couple of okayish solo projects so it's not a requirement at the least.

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c++sfml - I don't have any inhertiance, is that going to be a bad thing in the long run, or should I fix it now, I just have classes for various functions of the game, Room, Camera, Event, Item, et.c.

>>158810186
The thing is, even with me being a Unity user I can clearly see how shitty the agdg unity attempted games are, with only maybe 2-3 exceptions during the past year.

I'd like to raise the Unity quality but I suck at drawing and modeling.

>>158810502
Learn more programming, you seem like a beginner jumping into C++ enginedev without even knowing the language.

>>158810567
I've considered making this game in Unity a few times now. Every time I consider it, I look at AGS and go 'oh right this thing is basically perfect already for making the game I want to make'

>>158810574
Yes I have a lot to learn, I just can't seem to link classes well

>>158810718
Start with a simpler game idea until you know how to separate functionality into objects.
Remember to avoid coupling as much as possible.

>>158810502

Just learn it. Out of the classes you listed, none of them have any 'is-a" relationship so using inheritance for any of them would be unfitting.

>>158781592
The important thing about open world games isn't having lots of space or lots of stuff, it's having really interesting, unique stuff that other games haven't done.
Plenty of open world games end up being bland even with a AAA budget and huge landmass because their worlds are generic filler that exist to give a bunch of missions space to exist in.
Being able to come up with mysterious points of interest and compelling twists on whatever basic setting you're working with will be the difference between making a game that has a village and some wilderness and a game that is special.

>>158809642
That's an unfair comparison.
They're much smaller, so of course they have a higher concentration of progress posts. We have a larger community, so progress posts can have several discussions between them. That doesn't mean we have less progress, we just have more discussions on top of the progress.

There's basically no reason for any of them to give up on their games, because 90% of their game is already done, they just have to put the story together on top of the generic RPG. Meanwhile game engines only give a framework and some helpful tools to work with. You have to make 90% of the systems and mechanics to actually make a game work. So it's a lot more likely for a gamedev to give up. Leading to us looking worse even though it's not really that bad.
And of course, because they already have 90% of their game pre-built it's going to be passable at the very least. Meanwhile gamedevs using a game engine could just create shitty mechanics, making their game trash compared to a pre-built RPG.

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>>158809389
>opengl if you really want to learn behind the scene stuff

>>158810943
Yea that's what I was thinking the class Item I think I can use inheritance to break it down, consumable items, keyItems, Ammo, etc.., we'll see it how goes

>>158810286
Yeah man.
In fact steer clear of the whole internet, there's a lot of failures all over the internet, you don't want their laziness to rub off on you. Make sure you're in complete isolation so you can focus completely on your game.

>>158810567
>how shitty the agdg unity attempted games are
Making pixel art games in GM is quick and easy, so inevitably those games will have a level of content and polish that 3d games won't have in general.
Also, unreal has a bunch of default shaders that are pretty good at hiding shit artwork and whatnot.

>>158810502
Inheritance is generally a bad thing in the long run, actually. You're doing fine.

>>158811202
Be careful with inheritance. It only works for a system if you can plan that system out with high confidence that it will not change. In game development, this is rarely going to be the case. And that is all given that it is even going to be useful for that system.

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>>158810270
Yeah, I did the vertex group thing!
Thanks for the actually great advice, though I had already fixed it!

I also ran into some major issues with two vertices in ONLY ONE shoulder, which would not stop moving despite being completely blue, but I fixed it (in the end) by deleting half of the object and applying a mirror modifier in weight paint mode.

FINALLY I can begin animating.
But damn, it is a hell of a lot more comfortable than 2D animation, so I'm all joy now.

Since some people kept saying the character looked like JoJo, I tried giving him some yankee attitude

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>>158811053
That's not really true though. There's lots of folks making non-traditional RM games that have to build the mechanics as they go. DiM for instance only used something like 60-70% of the engine. It had no combat section, it had a unique health/sanity/scene mechanic, and so on.

Even just the art for it took a long while to do.

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Can anyone explain or link anything to help me understand UV unwrapping? I get it for simple objects like boxes and cylinders but it seems daunting and hard to visualize for character meshes etc.

I guess you could said I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around it

>>158811169
Fine, Vulkan if you can get the drivers.

Why the fuck would you use RPG Maker for a game that isn't an RPG? Is there a single benefit?

>>158811427
UV mapping a person is like designing pieces of fabric to be stitched together. It's the reverse of stitching together, though - you mark seams where the "clothes" are cut into flat pieces.

>>158811375
Would inheritance be good for my Item class, i'm thinking of making that abstract and having derived classes Ammo, KeyItems, consumables, etc..?

>>158811398
They still have far more of the game already built for them than all game engines used here.
RPG Maker is more like modding. You can make a small game with basically no alterations, or you can make a more complex game with lots of alterations, but ultimately you're still building on top of lots of systems that are already built.

>>158811427
someone needs to make an /agdg/ bingo

>>158794431
Your gun viewmodel is like 2x too big. It's the same size most assault rifles are in FPS games.

>>158811682
If you want to use inheritance, you have to plan it out. If you want to have that Item "branches" into Ammo, KeyItems, and Consumables, for example, consider what will need to happen if you want a consumable key item. Inheritance diamonds are not ideal.

>>158811608
>Why the fuck would you use RPG Maker for a game that isn't an RPG? Is there a single benefit?
Circlejerking between the devs. Reminds me of the time I had the same exact argument on a french board and got lynched very hard for it. I've left the RPGM community since then.

>>158811608
Because I hate I hate I hate fucking dialogue tracking I/O and script calls and blah blah blah.

RM takes that all away in an instant and so instantly puts itself above GM:S, Unity, Unreal etc in that regard. I want to make game, not make code. RM makes it the shortest line between those two points if I'm working on a game that's more visual than mechanical.

>>158811820
Unity is also like modding in that regard, if you consider the default assets that are provided.and often used.

>>158811383
nice how many bones for the cape

>>158812186
>Unity is also like modding in that regard
As somebody who used to do a shit ton of modding when I was younger, Unity has filled the void in my heart that a lack a robustly moddable games today has created.

C++ Q: I generally want to be passing pointers as much as possible through arguments correct? I read it is significantly faster, and also I should use switch statements whenever possible as opposed to IF, can anyone comment on this?

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>>158794431
>>158811856
His view model is fine, it's just a bit too close to the camera. Compare the pistol in dishonored for a size comparison.
Also, flintlock pistols were usually pretty large compared to modern pistols on account of firing .50 cal shot.

>>158811427
If you are using blender, Darren Lile on youtube has some nice video regarding this. I'm not sure of his credentials but he describes a lot of the functionality within blenders UI. I tend to play his videos at 1.5 or 2 speed because he has a low energy voice but the content is pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2-FfB9kRmE&list=PLyelx0TsmSpdSoVNlkGo7LAk3mhfxbMhd&index=1

>>158812326
Thanks!

>nice how many bones for the cape
Only one. It's a cloth modifier, which simulates cloth physics in collision with the legs.
It worked surprisingly well, despite the low amount of polygons.

>>158812601
Does it work outside blender or did you bake the physics into the animation?

>>158812408
Const references, not pointers in general. If the type is one that fits in a register (so just primitive types most of the time), you pass it by value. If not, pass it by const reference. When in doubt, pass by const reference. Passing by reference when you should have passed by value is not going to be nearly as bad as passing by value when you should have passed by reference.

>>158812601
I assume it's baked animation and not real time simulation?

>>158812828
>>158813017
Currently just in Blender's own simulation, but I think it should be possible to bake it.

>>158812408
>>158812891
There's obviously other factors that affect this choice but I would need to get into moving and rvalue references for that and it would just be too much.

trying my hand at modeling

I'm not so good at it

>>158812408
Is this ok as an example:

draw(camera->getCharacterX, camera->getCharacterY, imageManager->getRoomImage(2))

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>>158813838
whoops forgot picture

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>>158811427
Hi Carlos,

I like to unwrap complex areas(face, front, back, hands) in a way that I can easily draw onto the texture without much visualizing.

The rest of the mesh I unwrap in a way that uses the texture space efficiently.

For blender: mark seams->face select mode->Press L within your seam space->unwrap->project from view

3d studio: This guy will show you what things you got to press, even if he goes on and on for 25 minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUvwuDbp-Ds

Do this a few times and immediately draw something onto the texture, it'll click eventually.

Use this texture to check for overlap/uneven distribution, resize it in an image program if you need to.

>>158814007
whats the context here?

>>158810659
what is AGS?

>>158814706
Adventure Game Studio

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>>158814592
Mountain climbing lolis

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Posted this in the last thread. I'm making progress, finalizing game conditions. Since this gif I've added some juice - bullets change size and color on impact, screen shake when destroying enemies... I don't know if I want a peggle stye system where you have to remove a specific number of things or if it should be strictly score and health based.

>>158814007
http://terrain.party/

If you know where in the world you are trying to model, that link is a way to generate a heightmap of real world terrain. you can then subdivide a single plane and apply the map to it like any other image and have it displace the vertices.

>>158815013
>gamedev college

what did he mean by this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTXPUF4Oz4

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>>158815013
BokuDev please cut your hair. How will you present your game to suits like this?

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>>158778221
>instead of calling us niggers and accusing us of having poor people hardware he actually optimized for the first time!
XD

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>>158814592
the hope is to make a game where you climb everest

I only know how to program, have never touched anything with 3d at all before

have some good progress though

>>158815087
was considering using something like this maybe through google earth but am a bit worried about copyright and that sort of thing

>>158814905
CUTE GIRLS CLIMBING CUTE MOUNTAINS?!

And I thought finally getting a manga about cute girls lifting cute weights was as crazy as it was going to get.

>>158815364

>asian with cuck haircut
>/pol/ white supremacist

His game will fail.

>>158815184
I dunno

I went a game school (went for production art) and while my degree probably isn't worth spit, since nobody gives a shit and just wants to see your portfolio, I at least learned some stuff. My final year I had to work with designers and fuck me if they weren't the stupidest, laziest, most worthless people on the team.

The artists and programmers probably would have done better alone.

>>158815364
i want to fuck bokudev
she's cute

>>158815007
Having a molyneux moment here, bare with me;

If the "main" pinball is going to have health, then consider making the opening smaller such that it can't fall out.

Defeated enemies become powerups, or additional pinballs small enough to fall out.

Perhaps consider eventually changing the boundaries of the pinball area visually to be more like an energy barrier, allowing shots to pass through but the main pinball can't.

>>158816039
>Molyneux moment
What does this mean?

You weren't lying about features your programmers and artists will slap you for later

>>158815747
BokuDev is my agdg waifu.

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>>158815364
Why is /pol/ turning all the cute guys into racists?

>>158816814
Just cause he wants to Make America Great Again and exterminate the jews doesn't make him racist

Judaism is a religion.

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strawberry jam when?

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Haven't posted here in ages because of school.

My university's game development club is having a spoopy jam this weekend, and this is what I have so far.

Haven't made as much progress as I would have hoped because everyone in the club is an obnoxiously loud cunt and I keep running into engine-dev problems I haven't solved before. But I'm satisfied with what I have.

>>158819163
Man I can taste the engine rerendering every line of the grid every time the play moves

>>158819570
That's not a problem with speed. I put a delay on how often the player can move. I thought it would look retarded if he could zip across a long hallway instantaneously.

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>>158819570
Case in point... this is with the delay set to 0.

>>158820000
I'll say the original is just a bit too slow. Unless your game is too short (and being some sort of preserve, it's understanable) and you're trying to stretch it out

>>158820130
I set it to 250 ms. Was previously 300 ms. Lowest I think I could set it without it looking weird is 200 ms.

And the graphics performance isn't going to be amazing regardless. It's fine now, but this is JavaFX. It wasn't meant for games. I should get off my ass and learn LibGDX.

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>>158820130
And yeah, I do want the game slightly slow-paced. The idea is that you're stuck in a haunted house and you have to solve puzzles in each room to get to other rooms and find your way to the exit. There are plenty of features I won't even come close to by the deadline tomorrow, but I definitely want to come back to this.

Almost every game I've made has been a top-down shooter. The one in the screenshot attached is the one I advertised on AGDG about 3 years ago, Generic Zombie Shooter. It's time I moved on and made a different kind of game for once.

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So I heard slow draws porn.
Can anyone share a link?F-for research.

>>158820000
as a roguelike player, I'd want a button to instantly walk down a hallway and stop at the first point of interest (item, intersection, npc, etc)

>>158816932
>exterminate the jews
>Judaism is a religion
if you said exterminate Judaism that wouldnt be racist but Jew means both those who follow the religion and an ethnicity.
consider yourself redpilled, goyim.

>>158820449
Yeah the issue is that since it's entirely gridbased it seems to be unreasonably slow

But maybe that's just my fatally alcohol poisoned mind interpreting the footage

I remember how my first game was a topdown. It was called Bum Rush since you killed oncoming hobos, but I was told that was too un-PC so I colored everything green (So they're zombies) and kept the name anyway.

>>158813335
No such thing as too much. Lay it on me.

Where2cop paid unity developer asset kits? I'm just making a horror game for fun.

It's really hard to want to work on my own game when I could be playing games instead.