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/ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station

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Vox revs edition

Last Thread: >>158647678

Last time on /ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station:
>like I'd take time to read the thread and find out what it was all about

>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>/vg/station forum and logs
http://ss13.moe/forum/
http://game.ss13.moe/logs

>Map renders collection: updated sometimes
http://game.ss13.moe/minimaps/images/maps/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation

>Cryo Autism
http://pastebin.com/raw/YmAyagUa

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/raw/u40ABfJz
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vox are cute
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>that salty retard got 2 days for destroying near enough the entire station

Must've cost alot of pomfcoins
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>>158767025
no
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>>158767025
bats are cute
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>first the meme was moving to TGcode
>the next meme was moving to Polariscode
>the new meme is moving to Gooncode
>our coders are trying to kill the roid and miners and force their visions on our server

amazing

why can't we just steal features we want instead of this 'LMAO LETS JUST MOVE CODEBASES HAHA'
not to mention all the faggots going 'LMAO WE NEED MORE ANTAGS/LESS RP' or 'wah i want more forced RP', when the fuck did hippie and bay

decide to invade simultaneously

like, has every /vg/ original just been replaced by hippie faggots and baybies who don't know what makes /vg/ great, whats with all the fags

wanting to change how shit works around here big-time
this is fucking cancer and we need a return to a community that let you actually do what you fucking wanted instead of a divided one with

one side screaming for the others heads just because they play the game differently
what im saying is
make /vg/station great again when? remove hippie and bay when? BUILD A WALL AND MAKE THE OTHER SERVERS PAY FOR IT WHEN? REMOVE PJB SONIX AND

CLUSTER WHEN?

W H E N
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6th for unban plz
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Reminder that the coders that want features removed DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT FEATURES ARE.
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nth for XENOBIO FUN TIMES
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Mad greentexts?

>roundstart push the clown and fart on him
>take his gloves off
>minutes laters he scrubgloves me and starts to put a screwdriver in my brain, breaking my head
>i manage to escape
>i kill him later
>i leave his body in a locker next to cryo, in the middle of everything so eventually it would be opened
>admin bwoinks me: what the fuck are you doing?
>explain myself
>admin: take him out of the fucking locker for fucks sake
>try to revive him and fail
>spend the rest of the round scared of bwoinks

Now here is the best part

>clown was a ling
>he got "Extra genomes" for the trouble
>i got a bwoink for killing an antag that tried to kill me
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/10A9BMxkpHzBdcepMN3-K0UmoOnref0hQ179W8gxvokA/edit#heading=h.fmi8qtnja880

Don't be a moron, read the 7 ways coders want to completely destroy your favourite server and turn it into shitty forced interactions goonbay!
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>>158767182
>denkouZ

RIP you brilliant neckbeard

you tried to kill waifuposting and paid the price, a savior unappreciated
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>>158767243
Any proof?
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>>158767162
>why can't we just steal features we want instead of this 'LMAO LETS JUST MOVE CODEBASES HAHA'
Because coders don't steal features, they remove the asteroid
So the only way to get new features is to move house
How are you not getting this

What makes /vg/ great has never been the codebase, it was the playerbase
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>>158767362
Was like almost a year ago
The special tab didnt exist by then i think
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>>158767243
All clowns are tiders, and admins that enable clowntiders should be shot.
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>guy singulooses as chaplain on cult
>blatantly lies on ahelps
>3 days
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how do I xenoarch
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>>158767258
What does goon have to do with it
Also /vg/ code is literally half bay
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guys is there possibility to somehow host my own server, so i can learn engineering without killing anybody?
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>>158767447
And the retarded coders hate the playerbase and would rather jerk off over an empty server than enjoy a thriving server.
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>>158767563
JUST...HAND-PICK EVERYTHING
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>>158767243
>be an officer
>Mai Pai is the warden
>using an ian shirt and no backpack
>ask him about it
>"but i cant rock this nice ian shirt with my armor!" or some snowflake bullshit
>whatever, guess this won't be a serious round
>take the practice laser gun
>shoot a prisoner who is being a dick
>Mai Pai shotguns me, chlorals me, strips and steals all my shit and leaves me on dorms
>spent like 30 minutes trying to get my pda back

I'm still mad
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>>158767536
T H R E E
D A Y S
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>>158767648
And if we used someone else's server that had their own autistic coders that add nice things in spite of their shit playerbases, we wouldn't be at the whims of our own shit coders
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>>158767234
>>158767581
Is there an updated guide on xenobiology? It's pretty hard keeping track of all those changes and nothing works like I'm used to.
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>>158767583
In a very literal sense, wanting to remove the entirety of asteroid and replace it solely for goons Ore Magnet thing, whilst also wanting to remove any jobs outside of the station, like Vox, xenoarch, so forth.

They literally want to scrap away our working yet slightly flawed system to just be goons miner magnet, its disgusting.
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>>158767536
>>158767750
3 D A Y S
D
A
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S
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>>158767447
i hope you're being facetious and not seriously suggesting that moving codebases is a good idea

and i know that, dipshit, did you just not read the rest of the post? but at this point the playerbase is not what makes /vg/ great, because right now, the playerbase is filled to the brim with shitheaded fucksticks who insist on trying to force out anyone who plays the game differently from them

basically, our codebase is filled with PJBs and Doobiedoos who all want to force their shit on everyone else
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funny stuff to superglue?
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>>158767162
>has every /vg/ original just been replaced by hippie faggots and baybies who don't know what makes /vg/ great, whats with all the fags
I was here when /vg/ first became a board and we all played on thingulos's server. spess always was, always has been and always will be shit full of shitters. That's just not optional and it's just how the game is.
Also the game has always been prone to major changes. There used to be no such thing as dismemberment, no butts, no heads, no limbs of any kind. We used to use FEA atmos that didn't fuck over everything. Medicine used to not have any overdose limits, and there was never a reason to do surgery. Space levels of pressure used to do litterally 0 damage, aka the only thing you took damage from was the cold and the air loss.
Fuck at one point we just straight up moved to baycode with no real changes for a while, for the first round admins got a ping when there was literally any combat. Space is always changing, and it always sucks but you'll get used to it.
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>>158767880
They? Only PJB wants to remove the asteroid. Every other coders are against it.
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>>158767880
No, they want to get rid of it to add automated drones

Goon's magnet thing is attached to their entire mining and exploration system
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>>158767981
>that entire post
But that's false, Sonix, PJB both want to get rid of it, and Clusterfack has expressed support/okayness with/of it, and the problem here is cluster, who is now, if I recall correctly, in charge of the Repo, which means that PJB and Sonix, if they choose to act on their desires, have basically no obstacles to their wishes.
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>>158767727
but anon
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>>158767942
disk in newcop mode
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>>158767926
So what you're saying is
The playerbase and the coders are shit
So the only thing that makes /vg/ good is nothing at all
So /vg/ is not good, and has not been for a long time
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>>158768167
It won't get merged overnight. Should they ever open a PR for it, it's gonna get buried under so many critics it'll never get merged.
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>>158767581
>>158767856
>Take monkey, throw it in the pen
>wait
>once the old one is dead put another in
>wait some more
>slime split? Y: drag unwanted smalls to walkway of pen and spray it N: keep feeding until yes
>Pick colors you want and look at wiki chart to see paths to breed into
>Grind slimes for cores and inject them for stuff
>Have the shuttle called and never get anything you wanted
Ask Ricky stick and he will help you always.
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>>158767981
PJB and Sonix I believe want them, Cluster is alright with it
>>158768027
Apologies, mighty fucking fierce flu, and my medication makes me sleepy as shit
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>>158767727
can i diamond drill everything?
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>>158768174
just play it. you'll die a lot until you learn how to safely pinpoint effects and most likely get banned for briging artifacts to the station without checking for secondary effects but you'll eventually get good at it.>>158768324
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>>158768207
it's a fucking 4chan server, of course it was never good.
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>>158767727
I spent at least five hours doing that and never found an artifact.
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>>158766942
If PBJ and Cluster remove the roid I will burn down pomfs ice cream shop
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>>158768310
>PJB and Sonix I believe want them, Cluster is alright with it

I for one am dead against it. Fuck this "ss13 is based around player interaction" bullshit. It's not all black and white. The beauty of SS13 comes from the fact that all kinds of players can have fun there, even ones who hate interacting with other players.
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>>158768207
pretty much

our coders went down the drain when we made nexis leave
any trace of a good playerbase went out the window with retarded events like the purge and hiring of admins like doobie

what im saying is, we need to build a wall and make hippie play for it
and then ban cluster, PJB, sonix, and any other entitled fuckstick from the repo
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>>158767926
Nah anon, the loudest are those faggots, dont be that guy that sees a extremist part of a group and then thinks the entire group is just like the loud extremists, vg still has plenty of good people in it.
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>>158768565
Deity you french fuck if they remove the asteroid I will make you pay somehow for not stopping them
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>>158768565
Godfucking bless you then Diety, you are one of the few coders who has a single lickspittle of fucking sense, pat on the back.

Now go tell pomf about what these full on retarded niggerfaggots want to do with the server would ya, otherwise, its bye bye vg, go save the asteroid mate.
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>>158768427
It used to be good, man
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>>158768565
SAVE US DEITY
SAVE US FROM THE NIGHTMARE LIFE'S BECOME
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>>158768529
Go for small digsites, avoid organic digsites, scan rocks, drill non-pingy rocks and handpick pingy rocks and rocky debris until you find something.
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>>158768862
How do I know it's small though?
Also, do I need to triangulate properly or do I just head out for those digsite marks?
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>>158769223
There are hidden digsites too, usually near marked ones that work like a normal site, sometimes they are random hidden ones out in the open with no marked ones near it.
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>>158769521
That's nice and all but doesn't really answer my questions.
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>>158770242
Oh for the love of fucking god, gheto guide for xenoarch, use scanner on rocks. unless it pings like fucking mad its a small one, scan it, use the pick set till you get the correct measure or whatever, use machine, handpick whilst machine is active, check the wiki for the correct effect, pickaxe it whilst the energy web is in, tadaa, enjoy your shit fossils.
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https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/issues/12397
Thoughts?
I think this should be a feature but should only work while you're high as fuck on painkillers
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>>158767856
The *very first* thing you should do is all for a Mechanic.
Upgrading your slime grinder is convenient, it brings the speed to near instant.

Upgrading your monkey grinder is a necessity.
DO NOT GRIND ANY MONKEYS until the monkey grinder is fully upgraded.
Once it's fully upgraded, it churns out cubes one-to-one for monkeys.
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>>158770613
>every chemist implants a voice-activated pacid smoke grenade into their own chest
>the clown breaks into surgery to implant his noisemaker into his groin and keeps using it by leaving the menu open
Ebin
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>>158770613
It's something I've always wanted in Space, never realized it was actually there. It should have like 90% rates if sober, 40% if tramadol is in your system, 10% of oxycodone, and like decreasing percentage depending how drunk you are.
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>>158767856
Open wiki page on the trees, upgrade monkey grinder with a pico manipulator for free monkeys, shove monkeys inside pens, wait for them to be dead as fuck, go inside and recycle them, when you have too many use a extinguisher and spray water on them till they die, temperature gun when you can, shove the dead slimes in the grinder, inject with specific shit for reactions.

Boom, there you go.
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Reminder that every person involved with the discord fiasco should have been banned.

Reminder that DenkouZ did NOTHING WRONG.

Reminder that Discord is Cancer and our server is headed down a drain of circlejerking hippie faggots who want this server to be HIppie but with Baycode.
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I think the worst part of honestly attempting to be a non-shitter clown is the crew members that you win the job draw over, that resent you for "wasting a job slot" when you decide to just draw on floor tiles instead of making the entire escape hallway filled with banana peels hidden under other shit.
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>>158771587
They did a lot wrong
The discord is shit though
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>>158771690
If you where the clown this round you were a little bitch
If not, what you said literally never happened
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>>158770613
hear out my idea
every surgery step generates pain, you need to be under an arbitrary pain value for it to succeed
so you can do surgery on yourself without painkillers, you just need to wait a lot between every step until it stops hurting
having painkillers means you only need a few secs between steps, less if the painkiller is good
this also applies to doing surgery on other people: you CAN take painkillers and remain awake for surgery but unless you have oxycodone every doctor will tell you to fuck off and go the fuck to sleep so it doesn't take forever
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>>158771587
>NOTHING WRONG
If they hadn't lied about having a recording and gotten the entire admin team to ban 13 people over proof that didn't exist, DenkouZ would still be playing. As it is, the permaban stands until the recording is shown.
Just don't fucking lie to admins like that jesus fuck
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>>158771690
>Drawing on floor tiles
>Instead of being the best crewmember you can be, or going on grand adventures with the mime
It's like you hate fun
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>>158771813
Good idea, but I don't think the step should fail. Maybe you pass out? That way if you refuse to sleep a doctor can just work on you and make you pass out, instead of the surgery taking forever. Also gives it a bit more 'danger' to messing up your timing on non-medicated self-surgery, you could pass out and bleed to death
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>>158771805
Wasn't me, been off for about a month now, college and all that.
But like a heroin addict, I've got the itch that only doing self destructive behavior and relapsing can fix.
>>158771969
Oh, no no no. You misunderstand, I love doing space adventures and being best crew member.
Few months back I was clowning about and the captain goes braindead and promotes me for the rest of the round.
I ran a blood drive out of medbay and tricked centcomm into transferring 5000 credits station side by pretending to be a Space Nigerian Prince.
Shit was dope.
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>doing telescience
>trying to get something from the armory
>didn't have the exact coordinates, tried to calculate from mind
>suddenly I teleported a paper in
>"HELP SHITCURITY IS BEATING ME"

My sides were spaced
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>>158772945
I think the armory is protected anyway, did you have bluespace crystals?
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>>158773302
Yeah I had bluespace crystals, but they got smashed. However even after being smashed I managed to get a fuckton of stuff from the armory
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Post your comfy music.
Music for both general wild ride and mobile paramedic wild ride would be appreciated.
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>>158775302
Tally hall the bidding or whatever track you want from sly 2, shit is comfy as fuck, Paris and India themes are relaxing, and the Canada ones are nice too.
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>>158775302
>comfy music.

It's gotta have to either be fast paced music or dystopian/horror ambiance.

New Vegas soundtrack or bluegrass/American goth/American folk if it's sec.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yy7YLOTYEs

There is just no other way.
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>>158775302
https://distortedtapes.bandcamp.com/track/how-to-behave
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>>158775302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz9Y8s2EVKU

wildest of japanese rides
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>>158776219
>mfw paramedic right after a massive explosion with many injuries
https://youtu.be/siwpn14IE7E
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why do meds never put me in cryo when i'm dying?
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>>158778695
Depends on what you're dying from
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>>158778695
Personally I like fixing people up without resorting to the magic heal tube when possible.
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Serb?
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dead serb,
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Another shadowban shoah
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how do i appeal a ban i got perma banned for something I didn't do?
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I got banned for something retarded, is that a bug?
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Kavlax fucked up and banned the entire server.
Ayy lmao.
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Did I get tricked?
I was autisming and got banned.
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>tfw banned for no rasin.

Actually banned for no rasin
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>>158767856
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>>158779785
>>158779724
It's just a fuck up. This happens twice every other year.

Got to wait for big chucken
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>>158779846
deadmin this faggot the ban was ridiculous any way
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fuck they got me
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>>158779864
Here as well, the ban is not associated with me at all.
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>>158779846
DEADMIN
E
A
D
M
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N
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>>158779956
Were we all banned because of you?!
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>4 no rasin.
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DEAD MIN KAVALAX
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lel
at least I won't have to wait for a new round
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>>158780010
_no_
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>>158779956
You and me both
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DEADMIN KAVLAX HE B& EVERYONE
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>entire server collaborated to nonantag kill the botanist
>admins catch us

fuck
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deadmin KAVALAX
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How do you """"accidentally"""" ban the entire server?

Can some one post a screenshot of admin tools.

I don't have enough pomf coins to be admin today.
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OY VEY
THIS IS A TRAGEDY ON A WHOLE NEW LEVEL GOY
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Do we have to report our ckeys here or the admins will figure it out?
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I demand a lawyer.
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>tfw never been banned in the stickyban holocausts

Am I part of the master race?
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>>158780372
dont need a lawyer this dumb niggers sentence is permadeadmin
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>>158780205
so that's how they do chicken nuggets
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The ban that makes it all happen.

My suggestion: Everyone make a ban appeal on the forum.
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I demand compensation for all banned by this mistake.
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Don't make a ban appeal, it should fix in about 3 minutes on the new round.
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>>158780446
No that's male privilege
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>all these people that never heard of stickybans
They went rogue when Omega last got banned and it's the same deal now. Calm the fuck down and let Pomf sort it out.
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>>158780462
make us all admins deadmin kavalax
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>>158780459
Why should we appeal on the forums?

It's his own fault. He must fix it.
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>>158780462
I want 10 pomf coins!
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DON'T APPEAL ON THE FORUMS

THE ROUND IS RESTARTING AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO JOIN
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So who actually killed the botanist
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>>158780613
Because we can post on the forum.

Here is the template

Byond account and character name: [YOUR CKEY]

Banning admin: Kavlax

Ban reason and length: Killed the botanist for dubious reasons, would not respond to ahelps. Explain on the forums. Length is permanent.

Time ban was placed (including time zone): I really have no clue, it is far down on the ban list.

Your side of the story:
>never got bwoinked
>game crashed
>rejoin and i'm banned
>sticky ban from aeons ago

Why you think you should be unbanned: Because shit is fucked up and isn't me.
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>>158780843
>>158780459
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>>158780691
t. kavalax
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>>158780691
nah still banned
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>tfw you ahelp the entire server, and they don't respond to the admins mass ping, and you win the round after they all get banned,
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>>158780691
>connection failed
>connection failed
>YOU HAVE BEEN BANNED
thanks for the fix ;)
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>>158780856
No.

The admin knows who was the real perpetrator, and who was innocent.

Leave it to the admin.

Let him fix it all.
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>>158780691
Still banned, posted the ban appeal.
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>>158780856
>>158780613
>>158780459
wait until the chicken fixes it, this happens sometimes and there is no appeals needed
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>>158777317
>lets get ready for some paramedic action
>nothing happens
why live
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>>158778695
because baymed gives people a false sense of elitism for not using the most effective healing device on the station.
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Only the chicken can remove stickybans.
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>>158781063
>both the paramedics kept trying to fuck with the botanists harmless kudzu
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How was my Mai Pai impression, HoS?
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>>158780970
You're a true hero.

>>158781058
>implying they won't accidentally forget someone
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>>158781173
Do you know how stickybans work?
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>>158780856
what the fuck just happened

Sorry to the borg I was fixing
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>>158781065
doesnt matter got permab& because of that dang botanist and his whinny ahelps
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>>158781158
If it's in the hallway it dies. thems the rules nikolas
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>>158781241
Don't kill as a non antag and you wont get banned idiot.
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>sticky
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>>158781158
>kudzu
>harmless
kill yourself, kudzu is annoying and shit
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ARISE CHICKEN
THE STICKYBANS HAVE RETURNED
SAVE US FROM THE STICKYBANS!
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LOOK

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>>158780446
mmmmm... tendies
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>>158781239
Not really, but it couldn't hurt to do it regardless wouldn't it?

>>158781241
Sticky ban was too sticky and b& many players 4no raisin.
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>>158781301
It just wanted to play!
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>>158781378
It may be annoying.

But its harmless.

It can even be beneficial, if the botanist mutates stingers, and has the plant produce helpful chemicals!
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>>158781063
>something happens
>greytiders takes my job and drags the injured to medbay
>just end up sitting in the batcave and helping out occasionally in medbay
What's some fun/useful things to make in the chemlab if the HoP gives me access? I've already done hyperzine and while useful, I want something more that doesn't kill me like creatine would
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>>158781378
Last time I made healing kudzu a fag started to chase me with a fireaxe.
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>>158781159
>Instantly disarm spamming me the moment you see me
Pretty good
You were missing the part where you cry for me to read space law even though the punishment I'm giving follows space law
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>>158781507
Mindbreaker toxin smoke grenades
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>>158781507
space lube
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>>158781507
explosives for opening holes where you don't have access and metal foam to plug them afterward
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POMF YOU COCK!
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>>158781159
he was trying to have me forceborged when sticky went rouge. for roughing up the clown and using a rando se one someone. and i guess for trading things with you?
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Just spam F1 until pomf responds.
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[15:44:51]ADMINWARN: <span class="admin"><span class="prefix">ADMIN LOG:</span> <span class="message">Attempted stickyban login key: Psych0sis,Guest-188999719,Relegated,IAGFPRMF,Zipzap1999,Anglosphere,Typee,Jknpjr,JJKoshane,Notmog,Iwan840,Icepunda42,Nuklearcellphoneg,JamesWBigmac,Small_Boss,PublicEnemyMaiPai,Reind,Cucumberia,Zasiol,Bigchilly,Dacendeth,Strawberrytan,Diavil,KingcrimsonIJW,Agentofzog,Zth,Ytriht,Selenara,Jeroen52,Banon13,Scavengerquack,Jazzin,Eathembeans,Rub,Szuflox,Vuoristo,Theomund,_Riekland,RealestEstate
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>>158781513
>WAAAAAAHHH PEOPLE KILLED ME FOR PRODUCING BIO WEAPONS WAAAAAAAAAH
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Kavalax is an ex goon admin.

If you read the ss13 thread on something awful, they've been posting snarky comments about shutting down servers for stealing the old goon code.

Really makes you think.
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>>158771953
>thirteen (13)
considering half of them were alts, and the ban was purely based on the same sort of rule that gives to permas to people who don't respond to ahelps, you need to stop with this meme.
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>>158781747
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>>158781454
See the skull, the part of bone removed, the "master-race" Frankenstein radio controls, the Brain-thoughts Broadcasting Radio, the Eyesight Television, the Frankenstein Earphone Radio, the Threshold Brainwash Radio, the latest new skull reforming to contain ALL Frankenstein Controls, even in THIN skulls of WHITE PEDIGREE MALES! Visible Frankenstein controls! The synthetic nerve-radio directional antennae loop! Make copies for yourself! There is NO ESCAPE from this worst gangster police state, using ALL of the deadly gangster Frankenstein controls!
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>>158781620
Didn't think about that one before.

>>158781625
Would a roller bed slide really fast if pushed onto space lube?

>>158781640
Wouldn't thermite be better for that? I've never used it before but it seems like it would be much less alerting than an explosion
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>THREE DAYS and a stickyban that bans half the server
>in ONE DAY
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>>158781758
>BIO WEAPONS
Nah you are just a shitter who thought he found valids.
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>>158781906
Yes, making thermite for a paramed actually sounds pretty smart.
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found the guy who killed the bontanist
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>>158781951
To be fair, kudzu for the longest time used to only be a threat to the station.
You would choke to death or get knocked out in those things, or be lost forever in it.

It's like when some older players came back and would stomp the shit out of any borers they saw, because they used to be antag only.
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>>158781938
what was the "three days" all about anyway?
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>>158780282
hownu.ru
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>>158781903
Did my chaplain gimmick go down well?
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When playing xenoarch how do i proceed when i've gotten one small artifact but the rock still pings?
The anomaly depth is usually really high then and when i try to do it normally like the wiki says it usually breaks.

Is there any use to most of the small artifacts, specifically the spoon, alien statuette and any (non-plant) fossils?

>>158781903
Secret GANGSTER police beat me bloody, dragged me in chains from kenedy newyork airport. since then i hide in forced jobless poverty isolated, alone in this deadly niggertown old house.
dec chaplin was great
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>>158781951
didn't attack you salty boy
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>>158781529
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Space_Law
Assault: 6m
the clown never died, try not to be shitcurity and perma people unless the crime is actually permable kthx
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>>158782109
Loved it. Wish i could've been station side for it but i was autisming elsewhere.
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>>158782070
Underrated post
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>>158781903
>>158782109
>>158782112
>tfw I missed what sounds like a great Chaplin round
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>>158781747
>PublicEnemyMaiPai
>Strawberrytan
you can leave these banned
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thanks inti
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/12406
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>>158782383
>great

It was a mess of me trying to gimmick for the first time

Then it got cut short because vox loss = SMELELELELLELELEL
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>>158782082
A CHAPLAIN did a non-antag singuloose that killed multiple people when it was an unrevealed cult because he was salty at the robocop AI
CHAPLAIN
This is WAY more than 3 days, but kavlax memed and the admin in charge of the ban took it seriously
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>>158782609
Ah, so that is who released it back then.

Thanks for clarifying.
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>>158782609
T H R E E


D A A A A A Y S
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Alright, so if xenobio turns me into a slime, do I have to go do antag things and fuck with people or can I just be the friendly station pet slime?

Are there any special rules associated with playing slime?
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JUST REBOOT IT YOU CUNTS
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>>158782746
generally if you get changed into a non-sapient you can do whatever you want, unless it specifically mentions that you have to listen to the person that changed you. Like with admantium golems, constructs, and borgs under asimov.
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>>158782219
Some officers said that the clown died
>Implying I had enough time to validate that fact while on your shitter safari
Have you ever tried, you know, not murdering someone for slipping you?
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>>158782938
I remember this one guy saying there's nothing wrong with thrall asking to be dethralled
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>>158782938
alright, thanks
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>>158783072
i was a changeling, when i get antag i be the shitter everyone expects me to be
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>>158780205
MODS MODS MODS
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>>158783150
Shitters get the shitboot
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>>158783090
and that guy is a fucking retard. Just like you can't immedietley run to security when you get rev'd or culted.
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>>158782609
It was kolith, not kavlax.
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any way to view admin notes
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>>158784353
become an admin
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>>158779887
>red slimes garbage

dude, rabid slimes, lmao
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>>158784353
Ask the admins if they have any notes on you
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>>158784852
They'll instantly kill a few people out of nowhere, but after that they're kind of meh.

Their devastation to getting you lynched ratio is way out of whack.
Plus, they aren't very time efficient. You could just loose your hungry slimes for similar (weaker) results.
Doesn't really help that yellow, orange, and dark purple slimes are all garbage.

If you're planing to go loud quickly (stockpiling yellow and orange, with ghetto magboots),
then chancing into red slimes is nice. Otherwise they're garbage. Not even worth looking for.
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Is a man not entitled to the hugs of his waifu?
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>>158787208
sure, but he isn't entitled to the succ in dorms
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>>158786062
Reminder that Slime Grenades are fixed, so you can easily set up traps across the entire station and activate them all at the same time.
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>>158782609
>nevill bombchute nonantag bombs the bridge 4nr
>gets 24 FUCKING HOURS
>from buttbuddy extraordinaire zealotron
I'm still mad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest
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>>158787360
Is a ling not entitled to the give his waifu the succ in dorms?
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Is this a fair musical representation of what engineering does all day to provide the station power?
https://youtu.be/BVWfqOSdzs4
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>>158788790
The ling isn't just entitled to it, It's the sole purpose of the ling.
Just think of all the new ways lings could isolate someone for the succ if ERP was allowed
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>>158789313
no
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>>158788751
When I was fairly new I threw a 100/100 potas/water grenade at a wizard, killed two people, myself, and blew a hole in the station. Wiznerd didn't die.

I only got banned for an hour :^)
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>>158789463
Are you telling me they don't dance around to generate power?

Next you're gonna tell me that this isn't a good representation of what happens when a peaceful round is interrupted by antag shenanigans.
https://youtu.be/eUO9SNCBL6U
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>>158779887
>Metal explodes
No, thats oil.
This image is mostly wrong and incomplete. I will make a better and correct one.

>>158786062
Xenobio antag can be very strong, with slime nades working again there is much more you can do. Yellows are ok emps, use one on sec to take out laser charge or stop borgs.
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>>158789694
>Wiznerd didn't die.
You had one fucking job
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>>158790117
>I will make a better and correct one.
Please make the text easily readable. It's hard to read some of those colors
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>>158781468
>sticky bans
>the nigger doing shit changes his IP and hwid and wow it's nothing
>people who have nothing to do with it get banned
Gee why do people still think ip/hardware bans work in 2kfucking16
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>>158790547
srsly, DNA bans when?
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>>158790547
Stickybans are an IP range, also have a lot of sekrit repo cache bullshit
AFAIK you HAVE to get a virtual machine and proxy to get past a stickyban
I mean, they've stopped Sarca
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Post your thoughts on clowns no longer being able to fire pneumatic cannons.
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/12407
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>>158791101
I think the extent to which we already gimp clowns is dumb
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>>158791101
why the fuck was it a thing to begin with
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>>158791193
If you can't solo a death squad with your PDA you aren't a true clown
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>>158791193
only thing we should make special about clowns is the legality of beating them to a screaming pile of mush
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>>158792878
Clown blood acting as space lube when?
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>>158793147
i like this idea
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>>158793147
WYCI
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I need tips to reach 1GW other than more collectors. Seems that 12MW/collector is the most I can squeeze and it makes me unhappy.
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Punching things with a mech feels so good
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>>158793778
were you the one smashing my cock in at the end of the round?
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>>158767727
This is what I expected.

And this is what I got.
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>>158793765
Is the plasma cooled?
Is the container as cool as you can make it?
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>>158794037
If you get a skull and a bunch of bones you can combine them to make a skeleton display
It's useless but it's neat
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>>158794037
KEEP PLAYING
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>>158794151
That's the thing, after a gas reaches -263 it just disappears from pipes so -263 is the maximum.
And yes I cooled the plasma, It wouldn't even reach 20MW if I didn't.
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How to fix the roid:
>pokemon items are double the price
>research and mining shuttles are shared
>science/cargo get notified when shuttle is sent from mining back to the science department/cargo on the main station
>mining base on roid has an ATM and mining supply vending machine
>mining supply vending machine has newer, more expensive toys to encourage mining after getting your PKA
>conveyor belt system that goes from where refined mineral boxes are loaded straight to the shuttle to help lazy miners
>non-traders no longer have trade post access except for a small lobby with a trading stand similar to the trade shuttle
>quality of loot from xenoarch now matches the effort to get them (or vice versa)
>PKA upgrades available from science

Now for the bigger change to compliment the others (aside from the trading post one):
>bigass vault to the south of the roid
>randomized room layouts that lead to one room with cool as fuck loot and a really strong enemy
>walls are forcefielded like goonecode vault to prevent players from breaking in/out
>boss enemy is ranged and does burn damage or some shit
>the common enemies do melee damage and are very strong to encourage only attempting the vault after killing several goliaths
>common enemies have burn resistant skin that can be put onto hardsuits after being skinned to help with boss enemy
>new xenoarch loot that is extremely good with dealing with the dangers of the dungeon vault
The point of these changes is to make interaction with mining and science easier and more rewarding, create any reason to do xenoarch whatsoever, add a reason for a miner to stay on the roid and continue mining and fighting monsters, and also to give QM some extra spending money.

Too bad the coders would never put in this much effort to provide an actual solution to the problem at hand.
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>>158793765
Run another engine at the same time, like the TEG.
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>>158794574 c >>158716409
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Why do people think the asteroid needs fixing?
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>>158794669
But you can bug the TEG to make 1,5GW, that's not a challenge.
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>>158794731
xenoarch is shit and unrewarding, miners never bother to deliver minerals after getting their gear, and there isnt much reason to even stay on the roid besides the pokemon gimmick
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>>158794949
>miners never bother to deliver minerals after getting their gear
Maybe if you asked for it.
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>>158768304
I still remember when some xenobio nerd tried to convince Blankstare that bluecore granade cant be countered by leporazine and got surprised, when Billy suggested that he should became test subject to prove his point.
Were it you, Stick?
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>>158794694
that would just make playing miner more tedious, plus it doesn't help at all after miners have all the cash they need

ideally, miners would grab their starting gear, go to the roid, mine some, refine minerals, send minerals to where they're needed, buy toys, continue mining

what they do now is grab their starting gear, go to the roid, mine some, grab a PKA and pokemon shit, then never really get heard from again in most cases
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>mfw going through my SS13 folder
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>>158795629
I have that too
Still the best borer shenanigans
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>>158794574 I could think of a way to make it even better for lazy miners to drop off their ores at Science.
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>>158795927
Move science to the roid?
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>>158795927
What would that be?
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>>158796006
That is an option.
>>158796075
Make a system of disposal tubes that eventually end up in Science.
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never forget
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>become blob
>no fucking idea what to do
>remember playing it like twice 1 year ago
>tons has changed
>no idea how to force build blob tiles to expand
at least I could middle click to rally my spores to fuck a borg over
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>>158796187
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>>158796313
I should have just straight up lasered you to death but I was afraid of a bwoink.
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>>158795612
>delivering materials is bad
Is this... what Miners actually believe?
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>>158796380
Tubes are always the answer!
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>>158796406
>lasering to death over some bananas
m8
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>You will never be so upset about people making fun of your narcissistic tendencies that you make a discord to not have your fee fees hurts.

Why even live?
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>>158796592
>Running around slipping people when there is a blob on the loose
>Literally only out to grief those who are either running away, fighting, or otherwise working
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>mint and nutriments kudzu
Instagib nutrifatfucks
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>>158790386
Threw this together, not a full guide by any means but its a good quick reference.
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>>158796715
>Gold
>Not useful

Just slime yourself and pop them, they are friendly to you.
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>>158796689
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>>158796715
much better readability, thanks
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>>158796420
that's not what I was saying, it's just annoying to keep going back and forth from the roid to science then back to the roid then back to science etc etc

what I suggested makes delivering minerals easy and creates a reason to continue mining and delivering resources

did you even read the original post?
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>>158796601

I'm wrong?

Pff

What about this totally unrelated thing that someone did, man isn't that shitty

Please don't notice my personality is literally two sticks holding up a piece of paper
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>>158796967
uhm excuse me but everything you ever said I already covered all of that elsewhere some other time once yeah fuck off
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>>158796967

Bug fixes, all my shit works fine!

Oh that dosen't work?

FUCKING CELT WHERE'S THOSE 100 BUGFIXES

HA HA HA HA

I'm afraid of being open to criticism because I never developed social skills
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>>158796601
>a public discord often linked in thread and the regular discord that is supposed to be entirely about code so as to remove memes
>my feefees hurt why can't I meme them on my regular discord wahhh cluster is a cunt
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>>158796715
>Black -> Usefulness: A bit
Who is your dealer, and how do I contact them?
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>>158797182

Pff I don't need social skills, watch how well I program in BYOND's duct tape code

Ha, man this is a useful skill that I'm so proud of and constantly remind people

tfw my entire existence is tu quoque
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>>158797208

>Having your head so far up your own ass you can't handle someone fucking with you when you constantly fuck with them every second.

GEE, I WONDER WHY PEOPLE DON'T LIKE ME

Jk we need a coder discord where everyone agrees with me
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>>158795193
Yes it was me ricky, I wasn't exactly sure on how it applied the cold effect so I was saying it to prevent him from just testing it out in the open and just killing himself for no good reason, I learned that the reaction has a much larger radius than I though and goes through walls because it killed me outside telesci by the toxins storage door and he was on the telesci pad.
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>>158779887
Oh god, gimme a brick, so i can make him chew on his own teeth.
Goddamit, ask blankstare to show you some ropes, you got EVERYTHING wrong there is more uses. Most of them are harmfull, but still.
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>>158797656

Oh man are we shitting on cluster?

>I ONLY PIRATE GAMES BECAUSE I CAN AND GIVING MONEY TO PEOPLE ARE STUPID

>Oh shit my anime shit just shipped

Goddamn at least I pay for my Kamen Rider shit
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>>158796916
>did you even read the original post?
Yeah, "isolate the miners even more".
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Guys every time I want to be passiveaggressive I add a question mark at the end of my sentence?
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>>158797656
nah mate we need a discord that isn't filled with retarded players memeing, pretty simple but you wouldn't get it because you are likely one of said 18-year-old kolith-tier hyper-memers
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>>158798053
Spotted cl*sterfack
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>>158796313
should of been permabanned for this shit
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>>158798141
should of payed more attention in english class
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>>158798126
nope, sorry anyone who disagrees with you isn't clusterfack, but gee it's funny that you always mention him as 'cl*sterfack' - really gets the pondering going
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>>158798053

Ha I noticed you were criticizing my opinions on the subject.

Good thing I'm just going to try and direct your attention to something else

Ever notice how nobody else codes neat FEATURES into the server, how about you Celt?

Now here's the crucial part, I have to do my nasally laugh after so you know I won this exchange.

Heugh Heugh Heugh

Right celt?
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>>158798228
excuse me son?
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>>158798141
why?
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>>158797697
Not killed, tho. And sadly it lowered your body temp to only 0c, and not less.
I remember you being fixed after a bit, with dex.
We should test it again some day. There is more uses.
For example, i wonder if medbots will turn you to horror if you die. Its not virus kind of shit, like nanites, so it may work out
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>>158798272

Oh fuck that laugh

I can hear it
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>>158798272

Oh shit I'm glad you're here cluster, I know you said you might actually play more than once a year so here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8iDn2wSaFQ

Thought you might need it
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>>158798270
Hi there cl*sterfack!
How are you doing?
Unfortunately there's no other coders that hold your opinion that are online right now. Either you're cluster or you're not a coder, which wouldn't add up with your use of "we" because let me tell you we didn't want this
t. Player who isn't a coder
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>>158798320
i slip and it angers me
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>>158798598
>Unfortunately there's no other coders that hold your opinion that are online right now.
OK whatever you say pal, keep up with the boogeyboogeyman!
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>>158796830
Gold have no true usefulness unless antag, good luck talking to the admins about the xenos/spiders breaking out of xenobio. The slime trick works, but then what, you're a slime in a pool of monsters assuming you locked xenobio to prevent the hostile ones from getting out. Friendly golds are fine but are of no use other than pets. (Unless you get a zombie and cage it, the caged zombie can still force open doors)
>>158796860
You're welcome.
>>158797217
Blacks can make nanos which makes them ok, becoming a slime is great until you learn everything they can't do and being valid salad.
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>>158798752
If it's not a boogeyman, what's your ckey? Oh, I'm sorry, you won't tell us that because "I don't want to share my ckey with the thread, sorry"
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>>158798272

>I'm more concerned balance in a sandbox game than actually putting in fun stuff


Oh shit boys 64x64

It doesn't work?

Pfff of course it works
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Oh shit help guys, my aunts car just got bombed. They found this weird stick in her house.
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>>158798792
>becoming a slime is great until you learn everything they can't do and being valid salad
What if I merely want to be some eccentric crewmember's pet slime and exist only to drag them out of ZAS?
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>>158798947
>go on coder discord
>4 users logged in under coder, 2 users on collab(not including cluster)
NO CODERS ONLINE IT MUST BE CLUSTER REEEEEEE
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>>158798947

Oh shit cluster, do your laugh we won't know you won this argument until you do

You also need to shit on someone else to make yourself feel like you actually are worth something.

Go ahead, we have time the thread still has room

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYrG-Pwyf_E
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>>158799153
That's not a ckey, cl*sterfuck!
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>>158799254
>moving the goalposts
keep it up senpai, you sure aren't looking like a complete retard
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>>158799317

Heugh Heugh Heugh


Cluster don't upset your aunt with your laungage

Oh who are we kidding, you probably shit on her too, good job she knows how well you code.
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>>158799317
You're the one who's moving the goalposts, cl*ster. I asked for a ckey, you wouldn't provide it. Give up.
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THE BIRDS ARE FAILURES
KYS
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>>158799381
See you in three days anon
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>>158799395
I could give you literally any ckey and you'd ask for further proof, eat shit retard.
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>>158799506
>I could give you ANY ckey
Freudian slip. If you weren't cl*ster you'd say "I could give you MY ckey"
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>>158799381

Delet This
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>>158799597
This and the fact that an anonymous user on an anonymous Mongolian anime board wants to CLARIFY that he's NOT somebody, in a low-stakes situation where it shouldn't matter to him if people misidentify him, makes me think it's Clusterfack.
He was JUST active on Git, too.
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>>158799597


Aparently your aunt didn't like the representation, so I found a more fitting one cluster

HEAUGH HEAUHG HEAUGH
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>>158799597
Hey did you know that most of freud's theories were immediately debunked?
The moar you know!

you're projecting, not going to bother giving you my ckey because again, you'd move the goalposts and require more proof than I'm willing to shill out to this thread full of banned idiots.
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>>158790386
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>>158799817

Oh shit I was called out on my shit, better divert attention

Phew now I sound smart because I can use wikipedia.

Checkmate Discord

Holy shit do you even think maybe for a second people don't like you because you're a general dick to everyone, and not just unprovoked bullying?

Nah, can't be related
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>>158799946
again, I'm not cluster, spoilertexting isn't doing much senpai
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>>158797921
People don't play miner to do tedious work that cargo technicians could easily do with MULEs, they play miner to fuck around on the roid. What I suggested would make doing their job more rewarding and it would also make it better for science.

Some jobs are always going to be more isolated than others, miner is one of them. For example, xenobiologists rarely see any room aside from theirs, yet nobody complains. Not every single job has to be based around interaction. If I wanted to do that, I could play pretty much any other job.
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>>158799080
I've done that before, its great until you meet a firelock and can't open it due to not having a crowbar to open it because the zas that knocked them down it triggering that door and a queen spider is still hostile to you and chasing after you.
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>>158799817
>I'm n-not cl*ster I swear!
>I won't give you my ckey because y-you'd require p-proof
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>>158799994

Considering nearly everyone doesn't like cluster and you're the only one standing up for him.

I'd put my money that you're cluster.

Then again we're on an anime image board and I'm Apologyman.
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>>158798792
>Blacks can make nanos which makes them ok
1u of Nanobots heals 40 damage. Faster than cryo.
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>>158800120
>>158800045
again, I'll point out that this thread is full of absolute retard memers who have been bant and are spamming the same opinions in the same style of typing, not everyone hates cluster but whatever helps you shitpost friend.
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>>158800120

Hey Apologyman

It's Revs

Also fuck off cluster, you're a dick to be honest
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>>158800305
Okay cl*ster just calm down
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>>158799052
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>>158800021
I've done it before as a corgi puppy. I think I can still have fun with it. Ironically that round ended with me, my owner, and his other pets becoming plasma in xenobio while he tried to shove us in the pens for protection. It must have been a sign.

How robust is a slime anyways?
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>>158800305

OH hey, there's the diversion

It's the same opinions, you've been banned before so you don't matter, ect.

When are you going to grow up and take responsibility for your shitty behavior?

At least get out of the house, Jesus I bet you smell like shame
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>>158800305
Picture the scene. It's clusterfack. Half naked. In Texas. We're talking fatter than the average texan, ie he couldn't run a hundred metres if he was paid fifty thousand for it. Some people are saying mean things about him on the internet. HIM, who codes for SPACE STATION 13. Very important game. Have you heard of it? How DARE they. He came up with an idea. Pretend to be someone else! They won't see through it. Unless they do. In which case just keep pretending. Oh, they asked for a ckey? Deflect. Deflect. Deflect. It's not working!
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>>158800529
man it's funny to see you keep continuing on the same line of logic instead of actually trying to convince me (not cluster) to join your hate posse.
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>>158800134
By the time you get them robo has an ody shitting them out 15u at a time.
Did you know that nanos heal clone and organ damage too, you can completely replace a trip to medbay with them almost.
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>>158800705

Cluster you keep implying that me and my cabinet have any need for someone who acts the way you do.

That is why it is time for you to hand over the Ckey nice and slow, you've lost this pointless anime image board war and now it's time for you to stop.

Just hand it over nice and slow like, and maybe the state of Texas will give you a government funded treadmill to help you shed some of that weight.
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>>158800809
>15u at a time.

>K!@@##L!@@ %!@#E
>hivehand_empty.ogg
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Oh hey I just accessed cluster's webcam

Here's an actual picture of the guy
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Who the fuck cares about Cluster jesus christ
The coder Discord was made in an autistic rage, but being able to have all the coding stuff separated into neat channels is nice, especially when Discord doesn't support channel ordering.
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>>158801118
>webcam
>takes a picture from the opposite side of the room
I know you're just trolling, but at least try to make sense
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>>158800913
>cluster you lose
>supply your ckey to prove you're cluster even though I am telling everyone you are and will dispute whatever ckey you give
my fuckin' sides
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>>158801118
Nah there's no way that's him. Have you heard him breath? He's at least 1.5 times the size of Ken Bone.
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Did the xenoarch "exploit" removal remove the ability to handpick everything and get all of the large artifacts and small artifacts or just the handpick then drill thing?
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Oh well I'm tired of shitposting anyway, cluster if you see any of this you are a dick and act like a baby.

It's a game about virtual spacemen, grow up mang.
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>>158800470
Slimes are super robust, they get a little counter in the status menu that charges a shock like how a normal one has and on your first glomp it stuns a person like a stun baton giving you time to get on the poor soul and declone him and watch his legs give out to never have him stand again, the max number of charge is 10. Larges will split into multiple slimes on "death" and have a chance to be rabid giving you a chance to run or fight with it. You can also vent crawl, avoid the scrub lines generally due to atmos cooling them for efficiency, scan both lines before you go slime and plan with that.
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>>158801093
Odys shoot a syringe that you can pick up if it hits nothing with the chems inside, just dump them in a beaker and chem master the pills in suitable sizes.
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>>158801467
Well next time I get on I'm totally going to become friends with xenobio.
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>>158801316
>IT'S NOT ME GUYS I PROOOMISSEEE
>Hey alright then, I mean, I don't believe you but just I don't know say what your ckey is and maybe that'll be enough proof?
>NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
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>>158801290
>>158801327

You're both right, this guy actually invented Linux!

I'm sorry I forgot for a second that cluster only codes for spacement in byond instead of actually doing something that matters.
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>>158801917
yeah, I was super aggressive in my denial, totally.
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>>158801919
You have brought shame to the fine art of shitposting and Australians everywhere weep
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>>158801741
They're also immune to shock (which heals them substantially) and extreme heat (when gives them outrageous move speed).
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Why do jobfags cherish their windows so much?
Just let me break them.
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>>158802281
I could still pull things though right?
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>>158802121

Here lies the crater of cluster's ego

Blasted by the fact he codes but doesn't know who made Linux.

It's free cluster, we all know how you don't like to spend neet bucks on stuff.
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>>158802318
break my window i break your head
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>>158802318
That's against the law you crime breaking shit stain oxygen wasting piece of sub-human garbage
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>>158802318
>haha it's okay it's just a prank, woops, there's a breach, haha sorry that everyone is now slamming into a wall
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>>158802318
>WHY CANT I BREAK SPACE LAW WAAAAAAAH
>I WAS ONLY IN CHEM MAKING CHLORAL HYDRATE FUCKING SHITCURITY

probably t.(you)
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>>158802281
On top of that, not being affected by slips and stuns, slide over lubes halls like a hulk. Not needing air is also a bonus.
>>158802383
Yes
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>>158802748
>try to find a good cute slime picture that isn't a slime girl
>mfw just sifted through a bunch of slime fetish shit for the past 15 minutes
>didn't even find anything I liked
Being a slime sounds dope as fuck
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I'm loving it that everybody is constantly shitting on Clusterfack lately but I can't help but feel that Comic didn't get shat on as much as he deserved back when he was still relevant.
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>>>158804176 didn't even find anything I liked
Well if you ever do, remember to post links.
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>>158804779
I realized I worded it wrong right after I posted it.

I meant I didn't find anything I felt was kawaii and appropriate for the "cute and non-sexual" slime companion to convey my mood
But have this remnant of a prior shitposting session
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>>158804176
Slimes are the true master race, glad I will be known for them or at least fucking one
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>>158805113
Ricky slimes are for cute, not for the sexual
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>>158805359
>Needing slimes to look vaguely female
Get outta my kitchen
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>>158805359
>>158805585
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>>158805585
Better?
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>>158805796
not enuff tiddies
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>>158806408
Slimes are pretty much one big tiddy, anon.
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>>158805359
i never thought i would have degenerate fetishes. But slime girls r c.c.c.cute.
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>>158806750
It ain't a fetish if you keep it for cute and not for sexual
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>>158806750
Just accept it, my holy men
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>>158806750
Keep in mind that slimegirls are as close to extreme furfaggotry as thicc and catgirls.
t. furfag, don't involve yourself in the degeneracy
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>Finally get wizard
>Solo wizard
>summon 2 apprentices 1 destruction 1 jauntblink
>summon guns
>summon magic
>take blink
>me and blinkwizard go to armory and suit up
>fireball wizard goes and explodes shit

>kill 3 people before dying in plasma fire
>apprentice tries to clone me, not enough time
everyone had fun right?
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>>158807095
>apprentice tries to clone me, not enough time
hownu.ru
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>>158806408
i find your lack of faith disturbing
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xXxPotXofXashxXx
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>>158807095
got lubed and robusted two minutes into the round
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>>158805113
You failed us by never coding nekotoxin
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>>158807095
The only one who had fun is the faggot captain who one humaned
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Cat ear item that adds ~Nya to everything you say when?
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>>158804176
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>>158807580
yeah that was pretty unfun
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>>158807484
>Being a part of the coder base right now
I'm willing to wait right now as well as it likely never getting merged if I did.
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>>158807841
wow nice self-defeating attitude, I bet you never shower either because you still wouldn't make any friends.
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>that arrow

scary as shit
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>>158805796
Perfect
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>>158809091
explain
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>>158807650
Perfect, thank you for that anon.
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>>158808065
>not making friends with the dirt, bugs, and bacteria
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>>158775302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtMVpL3B_6Y
wild ride https://youtu.be/6n4vJd3qYk4
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>>158810303
do you eat them ?
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>>158811310
u wot? Do you eat your friends anon?
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>>158811516
if they wanted me to
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>>158811607
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>>158811607
that's pretty hot 2 b h
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>>158811808
>you wouldn't eat your friend if they wanted you to
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>>158812707
Don't get me wrong, I'll go to town if I'm stranded on an island or some shit without any food around. Just eating someone solely because they ask you to is a bit much.
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https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/12406
>"Sticky bans did nothing wrong" - Clusterfack
What did he mean by this?
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>>158812930
I for one would love to find out how another person tastes
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>>158813317
All you gotta do is go cut someone up and you're good to go
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>>158813317
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>>158813034
>Clusterfack thinks he isn't out of touch
He's really just embarrassing himself.
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>>158813317
I've looked it up, allegedly humans taste like shitty pig meat.
Shame
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>>158813317
A good friend of mine says they've smelt cooked human flesh, and it heavily reminded them of the smell of a pork chop. They physically wretch and vomit whenever they smell cooked pork chops, always bringing up this story.
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>>158813317
As >>158813495 and >>158813585 said, humans are similar in flesh to pigs, note why they are used often in tests with flesh. I would imagine that humans would have similar texture and taste to pork with everything else being similar.
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>>158813495
According to cannibals, we taste somewhere between chicken and veal.
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unban 2hotdogs
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/ss13g/ - cannibalism/slime fetish/coderbase hate general
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Don't knock until you try it.
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>>158813961
I'm glad we've reached this low, but I want to see how much further we can go.
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>>158814249
I could bring us lower but let's not.
Post spess pics
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>>158770368
Dude I KNOW and have been doing all that from the start
The question was:
WHERE do I dig? Is triangulating a waste of time etc.
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>>158814249
At least its better than waifus
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>>158814249
>>158814426
>mfw everyone said it was a victory when the waifu posting went away
>nobody thought about what would replace it
So do you miss us yet?
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>>158814653
You can't seriously expect cannibalism talk to happen every single fucking thread
It's mostly already over
Fuck off back to where you came from
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This has more variety. So no.
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I will literally pay a coder to code in nekotoxin and add it to all of Discount Dan's food
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>>158814805
How much you offering?
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>>158813961
if you wanna try human flesh sometime go to taiwan, i think cannibalism is still practiced in some places over there.
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>>158814653
No. You go'd now stay go.

>>158814447
also new to xenoarch but as far as i can tell from the wiki triangulation is just for finding large artifacts. As for where i'd say just wander the asteroid until you see a clump of cracked rock and start scaning and picking your way towards it.
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>>158814805
note that this doesn't specify that the PR needs to be good or merged
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Did someone say nekotoxin?
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>>158814805
Do it yourself.

With absolutely no coding experience, it'd take maybe 3 hours?
With coding experience, but no BYOND exposure, I'd guess 30 minutes?
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>>158814884
Wouldn't the cannibals be liable to try eating you?

Where do they get their meat if not from murder victims?
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>>158814831
$30 dollars, payable through either paypal or me selling my organs to you
It is up to you to actually complete the transaction using my organs, I know no dealers that I am legally allowed to mention

t. Celt
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JUST
A
PRANK
BRO
GOSH
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>>158814793
At least the waifu posting was consistent. Who knows what horrid things are on the horizon

>>158814917
What if I told you I never go'd
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>>158814653
Cannibalism is my fetish so not really.
I wonder if we could mix cannibalism and waifus though.

>tfw no waifu to murder you and eat your flesh
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>>158814917
>from the wiki triangulation is just for finding large artifacts.
No shit, that's what I'm after.
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YA'LL JUST GOT PRANKED
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Any tips for finding anomalies?
And how do I stop breaking those damn strange rocks while brushing them?!
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>>158815102
Just get the eat power and eat your waifus leg, then she can't run.
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>>158815147
Kill Jester.
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Nekotoxin should be easy to code, superglue got a change to work on clothes and cat ears exist as clothes. God help us.
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>>158815147
>And how do I stop breaking those damn strange rocks while brushing them?
You need to scan the digsite, then set up the field generator to generate a field on that tile, of a type based on what kind of digsite it is.
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>>158815147
The field generator will prevent the strange rocks from breaking.
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>>158814928
>nekotoxin
What in the fuck is nekotoxin?
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>>158815262
Gives people cat ears and cat tail because anime.
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Reminder that all Discount Dan food is 100% harmless and actually nutritious, except the pie.
Don't buy the pie.
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>>158815105
well then it's probably worth it.
>>
i used to code for a branch of the old dikumud code base, I've been lurking here a couple threads. you fuckers and your player-coder angst reminds me of those days... gonna give this game a shot. Not as a coder, never a-fucking-gin, but as a player for nostalgia's sake.

Future shitter questions:

1. About how long do rounds tend to take?
2. Will I be okay knowing nothing about the game and playing assistant till I learn, or is that too disruptive and I need to read a crap ton of tutorials and shit before even logging in?
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>>158815342
>>158815262
Can we make a new rule that people afflicted by this are valid?
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>>158815551
Not catbeasts.
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>>158815262
The idea is that its a chem obtained in xenobio likely (see >>158807841 ) and forces the person to become a neko. The idea came from a person wanting to have a bar and forcing people to become nekos in it.
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>>158815245
But I did set the field generator for the corresponding material and it still breaking even while brushing.
I'll keep trying and double check the field generator this time.
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>>158815454
It just takes me a shitton of time and I wish for once you guys wouldn't blow up the station meanwhile.
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>>158815468
1) Depends entirely on the round but they tend to stretch to 2 hours regularly. If you don't pick a head role you can literally jump out of an airlock and log out and nobody will give a single fuck.
2) http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help
Read these two
Don't read anything else
Just jump in
This game is ONLY fun when you don't know how to play it or what's going on
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>>158815449
The pie is perfect for pranks
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>>158815468
1. I'm usually in hour+ rounds, but I'm one of them midnight burgers that plays mostly during low-pop. It widely varies between roundtypes.

2.Know basic controls and the rules and don't robust random people. You should be fine with reading the basics page linked in the OP if you don't know anything.
But seriously read the rules
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Catears and tail given the floorlength braid treatment when?
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>>158815113
that was a fun round
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>>158815468
1. about an hour, fluke-ops, voxraiders, or wizard can be as little as 30 minutes and changeling/revsqaudstended can drag on to 2 and a half hours some times.
2. there's a quick start guide on the wiki that walks you through the very first things to do after you spawn as an assistant. Doing that however may be dificult since faggot ass coders decided to cap assistant like it was a real job. If that happens librarian has litterally no job and chef, bartender, chaplain, cargotech, and atmos tech can all generally be abandoned instantly with no real effect on the station.
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>>158815784
Most people who wear them already get lynched anyway. While they may not be a real catbeast, you can claim them valid a bit faster than normal. (likely because they are a mime or clown in the first place)
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>>158815667
Yeah, I love figuring out shit as blind as possible, that's the best way to find some crazy new exploit that everyone else misses because the tutorial they all read taught them the "proper" way to do stuff.

Are the things you linked interface guides or something? If so I might skip them as well, I've been playing DF since the 2d days. No interface can scare me.
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UNBAN HE
2HOTDOGS
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>>158816110
yeah basics is pretty basic
general help is fuck just skim the page
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So wait, this nekotoxin bullshit would just make you sprout unremovable cat ears?
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>>158816110
Basically, just read the fucking rules
Say ";faggot" to say "faggot" over the common radio channel
Be a human white male and stay away from security, medical, engineering, and head roles until you're ready. You'll know when you're ready.
Try clickdragging shit into you, that and alt-click are the most unintuitive interface commands, the rest you can figure out
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>>158816110
no really read the guide. do the exercises. You don't need to know a lot but being able to sit down and have a smoke while writing out your last will and testament is something you'll have to do eventually.
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>>158813961
all three of those things are objectionable bud
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>>158816212
>>158816295
>>158816365
Thanks, looking forward to dying in an interesting manner.
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>>158816294
Yes, there was also talk of some chat changes like No to nyaa, some of the catbeast ones, etc.
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>>158817004
Remember, if you think something you want to do might be against the rules, adminhelp it.
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>>158766097

Nothing special.

Round One
Everyone spawns in as skeleton.
Every item is disguised to look like a trumpet.
Every sound is changed into a "DOOT".
Wave after wave of monsters spawn as the admins play fitting music.
Awaken MR. SKELETAL

Round two
Everyone is normal until they die.
If a person dies their ghost becomes visible to the living but can't be heard.
If the deceased body has died exceeded a certain amount of time their body becomes a zombie.

Round Three
>Extended + Gateway

Round Four
A vote: 8 Man Nuke Ops Vs Station Or Assistants(Traitors) vs Security
No Borgs except Mommis

Round five
THE APOCALYPSE + Nightmare mode ft Adminbus extreme


Final Round
>Super Space Station 13
Everyone is a traitor
Running speed increased
No Damage from bullets or lasers
Explosions serve no damage
Punches have a chance to insta crit
Toolboxes have a chance to insta gib


Sorry for the late reply.

>>158813953
Good band
I don't like the memes
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>>158817401
with how fucking shitty last halloween was, i can believe it
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>>158817606
You kidding?
That was crazy fun.
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>>158817606
>>158817770
dropped the screw in the tuna
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>>158817401
>final round
>not a big murderbone scavengerhunt with everyone hopped up on creatine
>the goal is to find as much creatine as possible to keep your dose up and survive until the shuttle shows up

>small amounts of creatine is hidden all over
>each of the heads have a creatine vending machine that requires a head ID card to vend
>those not of a murderbone mood can trick or treat with the heads to get their creatine
>murderboners can kill the heads and sit on their piles of creatine
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>>158817770
>everyone is forced skeleton
>skeletons are buggy and suck
>cloning is fucked
>everyone is braindead
>termedclepe is muderboning with pre-nerf flesh to stone
>literally fucking nothing else
brilliant
really outdone themselves
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>>158817990
The fuck are you on about?
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>>158818114
oh wait, was it april fools?
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>>158818698
April fools was the 'fuck it, turn on skeleton mode'
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>>158819081
maybe Halloween will be "fuck it, spiders vs xeno mode"
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We don't have enough highlander rounds
Just one a day, they're 15 minutes and fun as fuck
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>>158818114
Is that an admech?
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>/who
>GarethGobblecoque

Kill me.
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>>158819869
Yup. "Engiseer" engineering borg.
Think you might have to pray for it?
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>>158819081
this was april fools
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>>158820361
No, players can choose that model by default.
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>>158817880
I'm glad I still remember Salt of the Dead.
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>>158820663
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Don't really play borg, but good to know.
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>>158820716
I've forgotten what we wanted the guy to do with the salt and why it was important. Other than that I can remember most of it.
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>http://ss13.moe/index.php/poll/72
>in charge of final content/balance decisions
>NONE OF THE CHOICES ACTUALLY PLAY THE FUCKING GAME

This is what's wrong with our administration.
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>>158821723
If they were playing the game they'd be biased towards roles they play.
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>>158821723
You could also select up to 5 choices.
Sood made the poll. ban he

>>158821803
>pic related
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>>158821970
Both shadowmech here and steelpoint on TG buffed security which they mainly play because they're completely biased. A coder who doesn't play should be the one to thumb up or down general gameplay changes, they're the only ones that can be unbiased about it.
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>>158821803
they'd also have the ability to know how our server actually plays. If you don't actually play you'd never know that 9 times out of 10 mining delivers materials to research at least once. If you just listened to the thread (and i assume the discord) you'd think miners just got their money from the ore machine and only came station side long enough to use the vending machine.
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>>158822078
Even the coders that 'dont play' actually did play for at least several months before starting to code for us. I don't think you can find any of the coders who don't fit this example.
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>>158822147
The four choices for headcoder are collaborators, and you can only become a collaborator once you've been a coder for a LONG time.

When's the last time that Clusterfack played the game regularly, do you think? Or PJB?
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>>158822059
Oh, fair point.
Carry on then.
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>>158822147
Did Intigracy ever actually play on /vg/ after moving from TG?

I could probably find a few examples like that, renegade coders who played and learned to code on another server.
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>>158822310
When's the last time a system has actually been reworked so that their experience would be out of date? I can't think of anything.
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>>158822373
It doesn't even require a system rework. Players come and go all the time. The playerbase as a whole is likely quite different now than it was a year ago. This affects how events unfold in a round.
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>>158822365
Intigracy became an admin/coder after being here for quite some time
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>>158822524
Considering the waifu shit and coder shit in the thread 24/7 that's almost certainly the case. But if the playerbase is always changing as you say, then why should we try to code around it? There's no point trying to code for the playerbase of 'now' if they're going to be replaced anyway with completely different people in the future.
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>>158822373
it doesn't have to be entire systems. even something simple like the lockbox nerf or security pistols can greatly change aspects of the game, if the headcoder doesn't play all they'll have to go on is shitposting in the thread and discord.
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>>158822703
Who should we code for if not for the current players?

Do you suggest we merge things that everyone hates with the justification of "well the people that hate it aren't going to be here forever."
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>>158822814
That was your argument not mine. That the playerbase is always changing so that there is no way they can keep in touch with them unless they are playing all the time. I don't think that's the case myself.

But if it WAS the case then its ridiculous to try and code specific things for the 'culture' of a particular group of players that are going to quit anyway, rather than making generally good changes that people may hate right now because it hurts their fee fees.
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>>158822991
>rather than making generally good changes that people may hate right now
If people hate the change, what makes it good?
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>>158823075
If it makes the game more intuitive and understandable to newcomers, instead of being backwards bug abusing.
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>>158823113
So stuff like making guns unusable if they're obtained from a broken lockbox is "making the game more intuitive and understandable to newcomers"?
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>>158823169
I don't care about lockboxes one way or another, but that's hardly to your credit of 'coders ruining the game' considering the people fucking voted for it in a serverwide poll that went on for a week.
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>>158823113
>instead of being backwards bug abusing
Are you claiming that the only changes players dislike is fixing abused bugs?
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>>158823376
Yes
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>changeling enters horror form almost 150 times, earraping the entire server and spamming chat
>DEAD: ADMIN(Clusterfack) says, "whoops"
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>>158824035
What did you mean by this
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>Slippy Joe is back
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>>158824053
Every time I see one of those fucking things as sec I immediately sprint to the brig to grab ear muffs. That shit is the worst.
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Feature idea:
The chef's fridge spawns with a small random assortment of produce basically to fill the gap between roundstart and botany's first harvest.
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>>158824223 https://docs.google.com/document/d/10A9BMxkpHzBdcepMN3-K0UmoOnref0hQ179W8gxvokA/
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>>158824223
The chef already has TWO fridges that spawn with an assortment of stuff.
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>>158824162
don't open this
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>>158807286
>delusional flatfags
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>>158824304
>supply and civillian jobs
>litterally nothing
k-kay

>>158824305
he spawns with a set assortment of the most broadly usefull and strangely more difficult to replace foodstuffs. All i'm asking is for some random fruits and veggies so even the worst chef has no excuse for making nothing but deep fried meat flavored giant jellybeans
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>>158824323
This gives me a boner.
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>>158824450
this anime has the right idea
>tfw no SS13 boobsliders
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>>158824747
i'm gonna fuck that grey
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>>158825375
Greys are for abusing, not lewd.
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>>158825507
she's just asking for it, i'm gonna probe her so hard
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>>158824572
Broski, I did it for you, but you can just *make* a suggestion.
Comments are for commenting on other people's suggestions.
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>>158825881
make me fgt
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>>158825691
>implying greys have genders
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>>158824450
>liking worse art quality
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>>158826240
I don't even anime, but >>158824450 Looks like a much higher quality piece of art.
>inb4 art is subjective
Piggu's: 1
crossdressing boys and underage girls: 0
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>>158825375
>begin to fuck greyfu
>imediate regret as you feel like you've dunked your junk in acid
>she is promptly swarmed and beaten to death by dozens of valid hungry borgs screaming about human harm
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>>158826664
>she is promptly swarmed and beaten to death by dozens of valid hungry borgs screaming about human harm
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>>158822365
l m a o
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>>158826889
>not finishing right when she deathgasps on your dick
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>>158822365
yeah I remember he used to play a vox
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>>158826997
Yachiyaya

Recently I play Sandra Drack
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>>158827043
I remember you from /tg/. I considered you one of the lesser faggots, along with HBL.

Never see you on here though, do you deadmin?
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>Low Pop
>never a HoP
>if there is one he's a fucking faggot
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>>158827392
>no HoP
>no AI
>no captain
>litterally no way to change access
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>>158827439
Captain's spare.
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>>158827439
Can't any other head change it? even then you can always break in and grab the captains spare.

Hell, I'm sure if you ahelp it the admins might just elevate one of the crew
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>>158827439
Grab some gloves and a toolbox and break into the Captain's office.
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>>158827506
t. faggot who goes for the captain's spare every round
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>>158827545
So what's worse, no access changes or greytiding for the spare?
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>>158827545
If you can reach the Captain's spare without silicon aid, you probably don't need it.
But getting a hold of it *is* the solution to their dilemma.
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>trying to save doctor while station goes to fuck with breaches, meteors, mr. clean, and screaming about cultists
>get hacked by syndie right in front of the doctor
>promptly told onboard the shuttle to kill the doctor and polyacid them into goo

Such is the silicon way.
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>>158827545
>you can't do this
>you can do it this way
>you're a faggot for doing it that way
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>>158827763
yeah I was kinda half-afk trying to code something, woops
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>>158827778
You're supposed to suffer and deal with what you're given
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>>158827659
It's so easy, too, if you're playing on deficiency.
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>>158828226
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Complete newfag here. how do i scream? i cant figure it out and wanted to keep screaming as a changeling murdered me
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>>158829068
say*scream

do say*help to get a list of emotes
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>>158829068
Lings can silence you as they go for the succ.
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>>158829167

ah i didnt realise i had to keep 'say' in the sentence

>>158829176

Spooky
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>OOC: you should check out lifeweb man, it's great
>OOC: uhh, okay
and then i got spooked
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>>158767727
What are these crystals and tube?
>>
>try doing research
>faggot robotics keep coming in and fucking with the console
>some other retard keeps ejecting materials from the protolathe
>give up, go build a space pod instead
>:h NO ONE DID RESEARCH WHAT THE FUCK
>>
>put on earmuffs
>flashbangs still knock you down
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>>158829845
>flashbang
>flash
>bang

You covered the bang, but not the flash.
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>>158829890
>lose sight
>automatically drop to floor
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>>158829957
>loud noise
>automatically drop to the floor
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>>158829957
Considering how fast it causes eye damage, it's safe to assume the light is just so fucking bright it causes so much pain you drop to the floor.

deepest lore
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>>158830069
The flash produced momentarily activates all photoreceptor cells in the eye, When encountering the mind comprehension of it in such little time causes over stimulation which can effect muscles making them lose control making the user lose balance.

The loud blast is meant to cause temporary loss of hearing, and also disturbs the fluid in the ear, causing loss of balance.
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>>158829371
Xenoarcheological crap.

They're assigned random powers that trigger under random conditions.
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>>158830295
We should change flashbangs to reflect this

Make the stun happen with no sunglasses
When there's no earmuffs but they have sunglasses they get woozy, and only fall if they move

So people can stay on their feet and flashbangs are less of the end-all solution to crime
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>>158830520
No
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>>158830630
O-okay.
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page 9 bumparooni
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>Have access to dead chat the entire round
>Try really hard not to metagame to hell and back from it

Holy shit, I could have been the hero the station needs but i would have gotten a spicy ban for it. Never ever put an mmi in a ripley, shit does not work.
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>>158831927
Now you understand how admins feel 24/7
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>want to play xenoarch
>no way to know what artifacts do
>dont want to get banned for bringing something deadly back to home base
>cant prove i didnt know what it is
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>>158832000
You wont ever be banned for bringing an artifact back to the station.
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>>158832160
Not nice to lie.
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>>158831927
yeah that bug needs a-fixin'
>>
>be part slav
>taking a advanced programming class at the local college (among other CIS classes)
>reviewing a class project before adding onto it this week
>spend several minutes trying to figure out how the fuck my own code that I wrote last week works
>figure it out and have no idea why the fuck I thought to do it that way
>still can't think of any better way to do it
Alright so I think I might have a touch of that slav magic. Should I become a /vg/station coder when I get some free time?
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>>158832843
do you even speak slav?
do you even know the greatest slav meme?
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>>158832901
Like I said, I'm part slav but I don't come from the slav-lands. No, I don't understand squat-speak
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>>158832967
so you're part shit at best
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>>158833016
I can't help what I am anon
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is all this shit desrcibed in wiki page about xenoarch required? or all you need is a handpick and patience?
>>
The Green haired Devil that stole my heart
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>>158835160
the blue haired devil who ran away...
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>>158835180
the grey haired devil who patched my heart...
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I feel nothing but a greyed out red.
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>making my way to and from science with task of recalling the shuttle and killing the vampire
>so many dead bodies around
>the RD polyacids herself trying to spray space bats with a firelock in front of her
>the librarian is running from me and the space bats while I chase with the sword
>succumbs to the bats after a long, drawn out chase
>kill them in one hit
LET THE AUTOMATON DO THE DANGEROUS THING FUCK
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>>158833215
>all you need is a handpick and patience?
We already said it over and over, YES!
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>>158837171
How do you find large artifacts though
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>>158838076
just handp-...
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>>158838076

depends, are you able to read and understand things?
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>>158838076
What is your malfunction retard
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>>158838304
Somewhat
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>>158838348

ok go read the entire wiki page twice

you win
>>
so let's say I scan the rock, it says depth 42 and clearance 12, do I need to handpick 30cm? and then what, I still have rocky debris
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>>158838564
Well then, it's time to learn xenoarch and ignore doing research even if I'm the only scientist, thanks anon!
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>>158838652
>learn xenoarch
>never get to bring the things you find to the station because you'll get banned because they are all harmful antag shit
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>>158838589
Jesus fuck, how are you so stupid, just go and test it fucking out, go and read the fucking wiki, its a seriously clear fucking guide, read it, follow it, it ain't even that hard.
>>
>Because fuck those scientist assholes. You bring them all this shiny ore and they can't even be fucked to even start research. If all you want is a diamond drill and everyone else can go fuck themselves, this is the guide for you.

> Wrench
is this a meme
how the hell do you put a wrench inside without debolting it
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>tfw too intelligent to have antag roles enabled
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>>158838771
(You) in the middle
>>
What makes someone a good/robust botanist? New to the role and I'm not sure what I could be doing better.
>>
>>158838987
sleep toxin injecting kudzu
>>
I saw him by the shore, standing by the ocean roar...

Tell me bros, does my little surfer girl love me?
>>
>>158838852
Its old anon, just shove a atmos analyzer, it dies the trick fine
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>>158838852
Just deconstruct other tools you pleb, you need access to use the DA anyway

>>158838987
You can grow biomass and print soap, you can wet floors and make plant based poisons and medicines, you can produce wood for barricades and bucklers, novaflowers and death nettles with high potency are your best weapons, they are one hit win if you can get them producing cyanide, you have access to the chef's gibber and butcher's knife, and your pocket hatchet is a robust alternative weapon which you can stockpile and throw, same as the cleaver
Rotisserie foods (any food or plant on a lit fire with a spit) is free nutriment

If you supply medical with peridaxon, rezadone or both I will actually marry you
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>>158839238
>you need access to use the DA anyway
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>>158838875
>tfw two intelligent too play vox
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>>158839282
It's true, you don't need access for the protolathe or circuit printer but to actually do research you need sci access or it says unauthorized
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>>158782075
>It's like when some older players came back and would stomp the shit out of any borers they saw, because they used to be antag only.


i did that and got boinked :(
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>>158839480
I got banned for salting a guy and killing his borer when it popped out but I'm pretty sure he deserved it from my perspective

Filthy aliens
>>
>>158839238

How does one go about producing rezadone through botany? I understand peridaxon is through exotic seeds. Thanks for all the advice.
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>>158839740
Mutation RNG (unstable mutagen, floral somatoray, alien plants from science (they will never deliver but might hand them over if you ask), exotic seeds
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>>158839740
Don't bother with it, just hack a Dan's drinks machine, get the fishy surprise, deliver it to chemistry, have em make pills with it.
>>
Could somebody post the guide to setting up your own serb?
Want to test something.
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>>158839907
Groans soda, it's only one variety of the banned contraband drink so you either have to wait for it to maybe spit it out or pay big cash for it and still have a chance of no fishy surprise, worth it if you aren't using your cash otherwise though nobody is ever prepared for clone damage
>>
>>158840241
Go to https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13.git
Unrar it
Open vgstation13.dme
Compile (cntrl+k)
Copy config example to config
Add your name to admins.txt
Open dream daemon and select the newly created vgstation13.dmb
Set to trusted mode and then run it
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>>158840361
Gracias
Time to learn xenoarch without pissing anyone off
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>>158840451
Your reason could not be more disappointing.
>>
To the peeps who don't like the lighting, it'll be reverted tomorrow night.
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>>158823376
>Shitstorm of the century when bluespace wrapping paper was fixed
>Shitstorm of the year when MoMMI plastic bags were fixed
>NOOO DON'T FIX SELF SURGERY I LIKE IT
>NOOO DON'T FIX FREE BLOODBAGS I LIKE IT
>NOOO DON'T FIX INSTANT FLATPACKS I LIKE IT
hmmmmmmmm...
>>
In order to fix R&D, first we need to agree:

Why is R&D bad? Why is it bad for scientists? Why is it bad for non-scientists?
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>>158841396
It's bad because

1. It has an optimal order that is completely known to everyone that never changes
2. It provides zero incentive to stay in R&D
3. It provides zero incentive to interact with the crew except to get materials ONE TIME and then print shit for the person who brought you those materials
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>>158840889
I like the lighting but it's too dark
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>>158841515
that is a lack of initiative on the R&D's part to distribute advanced technology to the station which is feasibly easy to do
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Can we give chaplain more interactions with ghosts again without breaking the game?
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>>158841564
It's not a problem of initiative its a problem of gameplay mechanics
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what time do halloween festivities start tomorrow?
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>>158841396
Nobody wants to do R&D because it's tedious and there is only a vague feeling of "well SOMEONE has to max everything out"
No way to make a Protolathe item hard to get besides snowflake research levels and "lol just make it cost 8000 diamond"
You aren't rewarded for helping or supplying people, in fact it drains your materials
Fuck miners not bringing their shit here

For non-sci:
You are at the complete mercy of Science having done R&D for themselves by themselves and then doing something for YOU
No way to even help with research
Fuck miners
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>>158842051
>its tedious
>its tedious

You have no idea the level of contempt I have for this statement. People argue for somethings removal because 'its tedious' and then complain when there is nothing to do.
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hey bitches
i had this idea to let people breed walking mushrooms
the plant stats(potency, yield, etc) + RNG would determine what special abilities they have, their attack type(melee/range), as well as their potential
itd work like oldschool runescape style combat basically
take turns attacking back and forth
they'd use special attacks on your command
each mushroom can only know 4 special abilities, active or passive
mushroom abilities are determined at creation but must be unlocked by fulfilling potential
either by fighting other mushrooms, monkeys, walking tomatoes, or, being put in a special lazarus cube that very slowly levels them up

then finally, you can fuse mushrooms to make mushrooms with higher potential and better skills

the ultimate goal would be
-making a champion fighter
-using rare skills to produce rare resources
-having a personal attack mushroom(not that even a levelled one will be super threatening)
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kill all catbeasts
kill all catbeast players
only you can purge flea ridden furfags who play as cat muslims
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>>158842852
Its a legitimate complaint anon, if you want to make it less tedious, upgrade it mate, but saying it aint boring by default and in any sort of way you can change it would be a plain lie.

Complicating it immensely would bore a lot of people, same with timegating or just making it have extra steps, its boring by default, its science mate, it isn't exciting and never will be.
>>158844605
I am dang sure catbeasts cant be roundstart, and if they aint, your preaching is null, they are megavalid by default.
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>>158844674
Okay what wouldn't be boring then.
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>>158841396
1. Its boring after doing it for the nth time, people say that we ahould remove the syringe gun method but then that further discourages people from doing it likely, I've played many games with a research systems and ss13 is on the low end of research minigames.
2. Lets look at the rest of science who have rnd room access to do it.
Robo: Want boards for mechs but can still order ody and ripley from cargo, cells are nice for them but borgs a happy with the high cap cells that can be made by DAing another high cap and engie vends have 10 if needed.
Toxins: Could care less about it.
Telescience: There are several crew monitors made already and a high cap works for them.
Xenobio: Temp gun is nice and pico manipulators are too but couldn't care beyond them.
Xenoarch: Fancy drills are not even needed, the picks they get are enough.
Most of science want to spend as much time doing their autism project as possible before shit goes down.
3. Now the rest of the station.
Medbay: Likes tools and supply but if they never get an adv. medkit they will still pop they guy out ok in the end.
Engineering: A cell once in forever, engie vends have cells in them.
Cargo/mining: Never get their special drill and bag.
Service: Flora ray once and a while but still replaced with mutagen.
Sec: Request for guns wouldn't get filled likely anyway.
Mechanic and robo are pretty much the most dependent on rnd and thats it.
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>>158844721
At this point in time, I doubt there is a single way you could make science fun by its mechanical self, any sort of extra machinery building or co-worker dependency is out the fucking window cause only mouth breathing retards want to limit science more than it currently is or be restricted by other autistic science players, randomizing science progress would be garbage too, I mean, look, the progress itself will never in by itself be good, its the rewards for doing it that matter, and you yourself need to be in a certain mindset to properly play science and enjoy it.

You are either a lone ranger autist who does his own shit but begrudingly if at all does RnD, or you do RnD and use its perks and toys to help others or have your own fun. Restricting progression or making it worse and more boring will only degrade from what its meant to be, a helping tool that whilst not mandatory, can help the station immensely, because to enjoy RnD itself, you have to be active and have a mentality of helping others with your materials, console boards and general access to tech, thing is very few science players even have the bleeding correct mindset to play it and they are swarmed by autistic bomb jerkoffs, slime fuckers, or people who lust for robotic dick and cant dignify themselves to go to cargo and just buy 12 crates of metal and circuits instead of stealing from RnD like the lil faggots they are.

Science is, like Cargo, limited only by your potential and wish to have fun, but whilst cargo has a natural sense of player bonding due to cargonia, Science isolates themselves a fuckload more and never gets to do its full potential, even when its much, much greater, and when they could help the station to a fucking stupid degree but just don't.

Maybe a tad too rambly, but fuck it.
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>>158845587
This isn't a solution. You're terrible at game design.
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>>158845052
The only purpose of RnD for engineering are prism boards for optics and RUST boards. The reason you never see engineering ask for them is because the majority of engineers don't know or care what prisms and RUST parts do.
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>>158845628
Im saying how it is, and why changing it in any massive overhaul wont help make it more fun, none of it is wrong, and if it is, you aren't saying how or why it is wrong.

There is no solution, its not fun in its mechanical self by default and any attempt at complicating it more would do nothing but even further push away those that find it boring but still do it as a necessary chore.
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I remember reading somewhere that another server has a sweet system for RnD, where they create prototypes based on the properties of different items and can modify them to do different things. Being able to modify the code of items while in game would be perfect for RnD, but I have no clue how to code that. Think how xenobotany works, each plant has a set of properties you can modify however you want, from the type of fruit they produce, to the quantity and if they have special modifiers like thorns.

For instance, you could modify a gun to shot in bursts, shoot different projectiles and have a larger magazine, but there's a chance it'll inherit the AEGs overheating property or something.

For non-gun objects I can imagine being able to add new healing properties to advanced healing kits, such as toxins healing on a burn kit. Tacking on health scanner properties to mass-spectrometers.

That system would be added tot he current RnD, so the initial chore is still there, but you're working toward unlocking more properties to play with and add to items after you're done with the basic research.
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>>158845771
There's no reason to ever make prisms from circuits and parts, just make them from flatpacks
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>>158846113
No one has this, stop shilling your stupid R&D idea you put on the stupid design doc. Nobody is going to code it and it's a retarded idea in the first place.
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>>158845798
>why changing it in any massive overhaul wont help make it more fun
>There is no solution

This is why I'm glad you aren't in any way responsible for the design of the game you absolute nincompoop. There are countless games which do research well, there are countless games which do interaction well. To say it cant be done or there is no solution is the very epitome of foolishness or ignorance. Have you never played another game before in your life?
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>>158846425
I said all of this based on SS13, not any other game, mechanics here, player mentality, reward system, so on and so forth are very different from other games where research is often passive or in a single player game with a ton of extra content to do whilst, usualy, its being done in a passive way, so unless you want to make some sort of factorio thing where its passive and you just go ahead and do your autism when you just put a conveyor belt next to the analyzer, I don't see a single way its better, any overhaul the coders want to do is shit by default because it would only make it more boring and more of a chore, making the effort moot since you only make it worse.

You really haven't don't anything but say Im wrong without proving it anon
>>158846113
No other server has it, quit shilling the design doc, its garbage.
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>>158846113
Played just about every code base, this ain't in any of them, stop shilling for the coderdoc.
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>>158847020
This wasn't from a coder, this was from the biggest fagola idea guy ever.
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What if TnD took a page from an old minecraft mod called thaumcraft. Its research system was solid and rewarded skill by having it done faster.
Thaumcraft 4 is the one I will be talking about. It worked by giving you 2 to 5 "dots" on a grid to connect together with other sub dots that were either a part of the other nearby dots or a product of them. Knowing combos and easy ways to connect dots on the grid made it so skilled people could finish a level of research quicker than a new person with just a list on how to do it.
Research would be scaled down in levels to a max of level 4 for all types of research and some getting 5 for above and beyond items like material for phazon boards. Diamond drills would be something like materials 3 now to make.
Dots to connect items on the grid would be obtained by DAing items for a value of dots, a roll of gause would be worth 1 bio point where something like a medhud is worth 3 bio points, asking around in other field allows you to get big points right off the bat like asking medbay for a medkit full of 2 gause, 2 ointment, etc. and it would be worth 13 bio dots making it a desire for interaction if needed, or use metal and glass to print all of that costing time and material but could still be done.
>That sounds hard and fire bad, change bad!
It was from a minecraft mod, I'm sure if kids could do it and understand it you can to.
The main pain here would be coding it.
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>no space exploring race
bluespacemen when
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>>158846941
Don't pretend like ss13 isn't a game like any other, or that somehow 'player mentality' means nothing will work
>any overhaul the coders want to do is shit by default
You're the opposite of helpful, you're such a disgrace. Even if I dislike what the coders have for ideas you're a million times worse than they are. At least they TRY to think of a way to make something better, even when they're wrong they're close to the mark than you are. How do you even get off being such a cunt face that you think 'absolutely everything will be worse, and I know this because oh wait I don't fucking know this at all and have no reason to believe this is the case'.
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>>158847290
>dots dots dots

What the fuck are you talking about, do you realize how retarded you sound right now?
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>>158847294
Trader is the space exploring job
>hardsuit
>jetpack
>gps
You can find and clear the salvage shuttle by 12;12 if you know where to look
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>>158847572
Jeez calm your tits autismo maximums.
If you don't like his solution, try to make your own or keep asking for more possible ideas to fix RnD.
You already got that guys two cents on it, if you don't like his solution ask around some more. No need to be a bitch about it.
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>>158848049
Where do I look?
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>>158847893
I know it sounds retarded, dots would be to represent a part of research such as electromagnetic, materials, engineering, combat, etc. Pic related is that system, the pool of dots to the left is what you drag to the right to connect the ones on the edge, in this case the white triangle, the brain, and the bird needed to be connected to finish the reseach level. You can see the faint line behind them showing that they are connected. Once all are connected you would hit done and you would raise reseach levels based on what you connected. Search thaumcraft 4 research for an idea of what I'm talking about.
>You're autistic
Research is autistic.
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>>158849494
Not only does he not have a solution. He asserts that there IS no solution, that among the infinite possibilities, there is not one which will be an improvement over the current version we have. I despise that cunt waffle for not having even an ounce of imagination, and worse than that thinking that he knows this is the case for certain.
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TELESCIENCE IS BULLSHIT


EVEN AFTER CONFIGURING THE OFFSET IN THE CONSOLE THE TELEPORTATIONS ARE ALWAYS OFF BY DOZENS OF TILES

THIS IS RIDICULOUS
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>>158850702
ZLEVELS MY LAD
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>>158849929
Than stop engaging him, it's not a problem since he's not a coder, or an admin so it's not like he has more power than you have.

Just keep looking for a solution, but don't start acting so angry because one guy gives you what he thinks is a solution, it'll cause less people to answer your questions.
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>>158850702
BECAUSE YOUR SHIIIIIT
LRN 2 tely or B rdy 4 Nrsy
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>>158850702
Did you do it correctly? Use the formula
y2-y1
--------
x2-x1
=
Delta y
-----------
Delta x

x/y 2 is the postion of the gps after tele.
x/y 1 is the location you put into the computer.
x/y delta is the offset you put into the offset boxes.

MAKE SURE TO 0 OUT YOUR OFFSETS WHEN YOU RECALI THE TELEPORTER, I SEE TOO MANY PEOPLE FORGET TO DO THIS AND QUESTION WHY ITS NOT CORRECT
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>>158845052
>I've played many games with a research systems and ss13 is on the low end of research minigames.
Can you give some examples of other games that have good research minigames?
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>Anomalous alien device - Composed of an unknown alloy, interdimensional/bluespace? phasing have been detected emitting in an ambient energy field. Activation index involves physical interaction with artifact surface.

>Warning, internal scans indicate ongoing subluminous activity operating independantly from primary systems. Auxiliary activity involves organically reactive exotic particles interspersed throughout substructure and shell. Activation index involves precise local atmospheric conditions, but subsystems indicate anomalous interference with standard attempts at triggering.
so what does it do?
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>>158851786
Minecraft, for example.
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>>158852065
Makes you gay
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>>158850702
Alright i'm sending an email for NASA right now asking about accuracy in teleporter machines in space mining stations
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>>158852149
so you've used it already?
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>>158852065
It means at a certain atmospheric pressure or gas percentage, the artifact will do something. God knows what.
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>the captain that round
>yui that round
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top tier rage cages boys. my favorite moment was probably

>won my first fight after a ghetto sex change
>someone saying "FINISH HIM"
>for some reason someone brought planks into the ring
>build a coffin
>throw the dude into the coffin
>close the lid
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god teir rage cage

shit teir captain

banbait teir yui
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>>158852260
is it possible to somehow figure it out?
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>>158852336
fuck it saved the wrong screencap i ment it to be one when all the dykes were fighting naked
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>>158852065
Gas generator/teleport everything nearby on touch as main effect, for the secondary i'll have to check the wik-

GOD DAMN IT CLUSTERFACK
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>>158852451
It's the aftermath, two of them dead and one standing. Their blood and teeth all over the ring.
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>>158852336
literally welded down an emitter and pushed me over and tried to burn me to death with it then had the gall to start shit later on
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>be sec
>slow shift with medium tier shitters everywhere
>get bored
>turn on pAI
>20 minutes later I'm implanting mouses into my chest, head and groin while getting assaulted by medbay staff
>not bored anymore

10/10
would download babel again
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>>158852527

>tries to bomb arrivals as a non antag

why did she even try to deconstruct the cage in the first place what a fucking autist lmao
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>>158852491
when I touched it without gloves I just fell over and started stuttering
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>>158852491
Save it since our coderbase thinks this kind of info is too harmful to have in the wiki

=== Large Artifact Cheat Sheet ===

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*Effect types:

−
**''electromagnetic energy'': Will charge or drain power cells, create an EMP, or damage/repair borgs.

−
**''high frequency particles'': Creates a forcefield, makes radiation, or damages/repairs borgs.

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**''organically reactive exotic particles'': Will scramble your DNA (both UI+SE), heal/harm/irradiate/stun you, or put you to sleep.

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**''intermittent psionic wavefront'': This artifact much like organically reactive exotic particles, will make you sleepy or stun you, or give you good/bad feelings.

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**''interdimensional/bluespace? phasing'': Teleports or emits a gas.

−
**''atomic synthesis'': Emits a gas.

−
**''low frequency particles'': Emits CO2.

−
*Effect ranges:

−
**''emitting in periodic bursts'': will pulse its effect every few seconds.

−
**''emitting in an ambient energy field'': Gives a constant effect once active.

−
**''interspersed throughout substructure and shell'': means you have to be within touch range for the effect.

−
*Activation triggers:

−
**''physical interaction with artifact surface'': Artifact is triggered by touching it with an ungloved hand or exposing it to water, sulfuric acid, toxin, thermite, or plasma in a dropper/beaker.

−
**''energetic interaction with artifact surface'': Artifact is triggered by hitting it with something that deals at least 10 brute, hitting it with energy such as with a stun baton, egun, laser, or multitool, or exposing it to heat or cold.

−
**''precise local atmospheric conditions'': Expose it to a certain gas. This can mean oxygen, nitrogen, carbon dioxide, plasma, and nitrous oxide.
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>>158852728
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>>158851759
>MAKE SURE TO 0 OUT YOUR OFFSETS WHEN YOU RECALI THE TELEPORTER

What? The offsets change after recalling?

Also, I teleported a GPS to a place onstation. I waited 10 seconds, and then, without changing the coordinates, I tried to recall the teleporter. It didn't work.

And then I did it again, but only waited 3 seconds before recalling. It worked perfectly.

>>158851453
There are different offsets for each z-level?
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>>158852686
they just joined the round didnt say anything and immediately started disassembling the ragecage
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>>158852981
nah i think she said something like "what is this? well, its coming down anyways" and then started dissasembling it

whats her cdkey i need to grudge this nerd
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How big are oil slime explosions? Do they have a fuse time?

Also, do the slime EMPs have a fuse time?
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>>158851786
There is a few systems but to keep them general
>Active
The type we have now, you do something the whole time and you raise a level.
>Passive
Wait and get levels, often seen in mobile games and such
>Resource/machine
Get enough resources and you can get a level

Examples
>Active
>>158849843 is one and our current is another
>Passive
Can't think of one off my head but think hit a button and wait.
>Resource/machine
Factorio, starbound, terraria, games that have many types of materials, etc. Often involving you making you make a new machine or a better one of the last kind.
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>>158853320
Ckey is new, check the ban page, it's one of the recently perma'd nerds
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>>158853320
dont grudge people man
shits lame
if they keep attacking people and griefing theyll get banned eventually
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>>158852068
Since when does Minecraft have research?
Pls elaborate, another example would be good too
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>>158853690
did she get permad ? really ?
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>>158853748
No, just some shitter evading
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>>158853962
how do you know this ?
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>>158852843
The recali button does the following
>Resets the amount of teles before it fucks up and doesn't work right
>Randomizes the offset
You may have gotten lucky when you hit recali and then recall the second time by it making the offset the same as the first time you set it up.
Z levels have no effect, make sure you set it to the desired one, if you got a guy on z3 and you put in the x and y and hit recall, nothing will happen becuase the z didn't get put in if you leave it at the default z1.

>>158853420
Not sure about oil size, but slime emps are instant iirc.

>>158853717
I think it was talking about the minecraft mod from >>158847290
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>>158852843
You don't need to wait, time does nothing.

Here's what you do:
>put battery in teleporter
>set x and y both to 100
>put GPS on pad, naming it would b helpful but isn't necessary
>teleport GPS
>check second GPS
>first GPS should be a little off from 100
>set offsets accordingly, so if the new location is (97, 105) you would set the offsets to (3, -5)
>enter exact coordinates of the location of the the GPS
>receive
If you did it right, the GPS should be teleported back. Don't forget that the first GPS you teleport will NOT be at (100, 100, 1) when you teleport it, unless there's no drift. I see a lot of people send the GPS out, enter the offsets, and then hit receive without changing the (x, y) values.
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>>158854186
Wrong, the offset for that would be -3, 5. See >>158851759 its correct about the offset method.
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>>158854395
Got them mixed up, my mistake. I believe that's the only error in my guide, however.
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Speaking of all this telesci, can you move the telepad? I know you can move the console, but I haven't tried the pad.
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>>158854803
No and you can't reconstruct it if it gets bombed either
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>>158853420
Oil slimes explode with a 1, 3, 6 size explosion.
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>>158847572
>Willingly change shit for the worse with no other direction than change a slightly flawed system for the sake of it
>Perpetuate the status quo till a good enough solution is achieved or though out

I do not see the problem then anon, you say its possible, well then, lets wait till a better solution than the ones currently presented comes up, I personally don't think its possible to turn rnd, which is by default just a means to a end, to be fun, its a tool to start the real fun, you can dislike my opinion mate, I wont stop you, but thing is, I just cannot provide a better system currently, I can only tell you how different attempts or design attempts at making it fun wont work.

If you dont like what I said, well, tough tits buddy, you asked for a opinion, I gave you one, you havent told me how they are false anyhow, so, do as you wish pal, Im just giving what you ordered, a opinion.
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>>158855341
>he doesnt know
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>>158853420
All slime effects are instantaneous. If you want a delay, stuff em in a grenade casing, large or bigger.
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>>158854592
100, 100 puts it in space now so it drifts, use 250, 250 instead
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>>158856287
Holy fucking lord you need to have your comma privileges taken away, that is the longest sentence I've seen in a while
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>>158857789
I thought they removed drifting with tele for gps just for that reason, I use 100 100 1 just fine all the time.
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>>158857789
Why did they change the coordinates by the way? Now my maps and key location sheets are worthless.
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>get a green slime
>right afterwords a Xeno comes behind me and kills me.

ITS NOT FAIR.
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>>158858375
Welcome to xeno sciences, where the good stuff only comes when its too late.
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>>158858375
sorry
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>>158858131
Come and take it then big boy ;^)
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Got an idea for a scientist specific syndie items

Slime DNA modifier
>handheld machine with a screen and attached container that contains an easily modified slime fluid
>using machine allows you to enter specific values and use that to make synthetic slime DNA that can be injected into the fluid in the container attached to the device
>once the synthetic DNA is injected into the slime fluid, the container is ejected, leaving you with a enough synthetic slime DNA to put into a syringe and inject into a slime
>the next generation of that slime will now be whatever color was created using the DNA modifier
in short, it's a single use item that creates a syringe that allows you to skip to any slime color

I find that whenever I play xenobio, I never get to play with the toys I get because RNG always fucks me over and I never get the good shit until the end of the round. This item will allow you to skip that bullshit and get any color you'd like.

I picture that it'd be pretty expensive, though. 9-10 telecrystals seems fair enough.
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>>158858372
how long have you been away? Each z-level is 500x500 now, not 250x250. It's been a good few months.
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>>158858802
>It's been a good few months.
That's how long I've been away.
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>>158858601
How about I make you take it instead
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>>158832405
There are TWO (2) Xenoarcheology related bans in the banlist.
Both from the same event.

A Xenoarch found the Happy Mask (a non-randomized item),
which they took as an excuse to non-antag murder everyone.
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>>158858669
Basically the same shit as the Master Trainer's Belt for miners which only costs 4 telecrystals.
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>>158860048
The difference is, you can get an infinite supply of whatever slime you want at 5 minutes in. Imagine having an entire army of golems by 15 minutes.
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>>158860328
>army of golems in 15 minutes
>implying there are enough dead players to create your army
>implying that because you're an antag your "army" is allowed to kill people
>implying they're actually going to listen to a word you say and not just run off and do whatever
You're better off making goldslimes.
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>>158860606
Don't golems have to follow the orders of whoever summoned them?
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>>158860606
>F1: wtf golems aren't obeying
>they all get the bwoink and stay on line
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>>158860606
>implying that because you're an antag your "army" is allowed to kill people
R u daft
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>>158858669
I like the idea, but 10 tc is a bit too much for something like that, 5 at most for it. Most job specific items are about 4 or 5.
Or we just add it to the anomoly research branch, I wanted to see super items in that area, but no we got printable science goggles.
Needs anomoly 2, bio 4, data 3 and costs uranium, silver, glass, and iron.

Speaking of science stuff, a xenoarch digsite scanner goggles would be a cool item to add to that area, and if you take it further a large artifact locator could be cool but costs diamonds to make and it uses a rock sample to show you the exact location of larges (there is only 6 per round anyway)
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>>158860606
Golems respond to orders just like borgs, you can go and tell a borg to kill all non-humans as non antag if he's on ASIMOV, he has to do it, and you're the one getting banned
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>>158860693
>>158860921
>>158860945
So you're telling me golems, who are players without antag, aren't forced to obey server when those rules are contradicted by their creator?
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>>158860945
What makes them any different from emagged borgs? You're an antag, your constructs should be able to fuck shit up.
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>>158861197
>>158860945
Meant to reply to
>>158860606
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I wonder how many unreported exploits there are between the entire playerbase keeping their precious bugs entirely to themselves for their own abusal
I keep 6 different exploits secret, and I often wonder how many other people know them. How many people knew about self surgery before it was reported?
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NOW WATCH

AND LEARN
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Golems do what you tell them if you are their master. Anything you tell them to do is held on you the person who gave the command, if the person who told them to kill everything not them or the army is an antag its allowed due to the killings being held accountable by that antag.
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>>158861450
I've only got one.
It doesn't really do much though it's just sort of a fun one.
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HERE'S THE DEAL
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>>158861163
Golems have to follow orders, period. If their creator is a non-antag and orders them to do antag shit, it`s the creator that gets the hammer, not the Golem. By your logic, a cult construct can't do antag stuff ya turkey.
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doot do--doot do-doot do-ot we are number one
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HE'LL SLIP AND SLIDE ON THIS BANANA PEEL
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>>158861874
Same as with silicons. If you law 2 a borg to kill a Vox 4no raisins, the borg is not at fault for breaking laws, but you ARE at fault for getting a player killed 4no raisins. Unless you're an antag.
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WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
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Wanna know something really meta?
If a botanist grows Diona, he's certified not an antag.
When I am antag botanist I will fucking hide the diona packets first thing. You would NOT BELIEVE how fucking validthirsty these little assholes are.
They're not bound to you, you can't bind them to you, and they WILL snitch on you as soon as they see the words "spiritbreaker" or "cyanide". In fact they probably already have a pocket stunbaton just to valid you on the spot.
FUCK Diona. Imagine how much fun you could have siding with your antag botanist daddy, but because of a few (a lot of) bad apples you can't.
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>>158862649
Imagine if Botanists could buy 3-4 TC diona seeds that make loyal antag dionas
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>>158844942
Why are you playing sZone?
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>>158852491
OK, disregarding the fact that anyone can just dig through the git repo, Cl*ster knows that wikis have version control... right?
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>>158862649
Honestly, Dionae should be bound by the guy who made them unless he doesn't want them to be tied desu.
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>>158862575
*honk
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Wanna know something really meta?
If a robotist makes an mmi of someone, he's certified not an antag.
When I am antag robotist I will fucking hide the mmi first thing. You would NOT BELIEVE how fucking validthirsty these little assholes are.
They're not bound to you, you can't bind them to you, and they WILL snitch on you as soon as they see the words "emag" or "hacked ai module". In fact they probably already have a stunbaton module just to valid you on the spot.
FUCK mmis. Imagine how much fun you could have siding with your antag robotist daddy, but because of a few (a lot of) bad apples you can't.
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>>158862998
Please just revert what that lil faggot shit does, please, someone neds to take his ego down a notch.
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>>158863126
>put in borg shell
>gibe flash (you literally have a full second time window to do this)
>gibe emag
That was EZ
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>>158862136
Will Clown be able to slip SportaCaptain, and esure that LazyStation will finally be lazy?
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>>158862789
fund it
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>>158863383
>:b robo flashed me and has an emag, check bound borgs soon silicons
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>>158862998
it's kind of sad because I can get behind his motives

this game is much better when the mystery is still present

but it's also pretty fucking dumb to try to censor the wiki, you can't change the way people think. people who don't want to be spoiled won't visit the wiki. people who want to know every detail won't be stopped and will just go code diving.

he should add spoiler tags instead of deleting shit
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>>158863575
>imploding they can type that down before you emag them
>imploding anyone would rather get themselves blown when they're about to get free antag in 2 seconds
Be 100% honest
No theorycrafting, no shitposting
How many times has your post happened to you or someone you know?
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>>158863672
Yeah, no, xenoarch is a fickle bitch and you do not want to fucking plasmaflood with it or anything after wasting half a hour with it or not even know how to activate it mate, removing it completely was a dumbshit move to fuck over new players or old ones that dont keep a folder with all of it down, its a complicated job and removing the loot tables and effects/triggers is inexcusable shit.

I agree with spoilers at most, but he shouldnt fucking act like the almighty lord of vg and starting to delete shit from the informative wiki because he thinks players shouldn't know about X, Y, or Z, and on Xenoarch of all fucking things to restrict knowledge on
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>>158863812
I've been ratted out twice by emagged borgs who were blown or they used bianry to say ":b help emag" just before they were emagged due to the emag failing sometimes. It was more just being unlucky. They will get rebuilt at some point so they don't care. I even had it once where a borg typed it into the name textbox once and it was "b help emagged", I reset the name soon after but it was a small laugh.
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Wanna know something really meta?
If a geneticist makes a clone of someone, he's certified not an antag.
When I am antag geneticist I will fucking no urge the bodies first thing. You would NOT BELIEVE how fucking validthirsty these little assholes are.
They're not bound to you, you can't bind them to you, and they WILL snitch on you as if deadchat has contained the words "syndie" or "ling". In fact they probably already have a stunbaton module just to valid you on the spot.
FUCK clones. Imagine how much fun you could have siding with your antag geneticist daddy, but because of a few (a lot of) bad apples you can't.
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>>158864578
>They will get rebuilt at some point
lol
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>>158863126 Friendly reminder, MoMMI are the optimal emag targets.
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>>158864756
There are so many errors in your post but the worst is
>genetists
>cloning people
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>>158865092
I usually just send their heads to the roboticist.
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>>158864756
>Not cloning someone so you can implant grenades in their chest before completing their cloning, then detonating them later
>Not cloning people but keeping them retarded in maint
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How do I go about finding the clown roid?
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>>158767162
daily reminder heredth had the right idea to steal goonfeatures and incorporate them poorly

t. heredth
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Wanna know something really meta?
If a wizard makes an xeno of someone, he's certified an asshole.
When I am antag wizard I will fucking hide the SoC first thing. You would NOT BELIEVE how fucking validthirsty these little assholes are.
They're not bound to you, you can't bind them to you, and they WILL snitch on you as soon as they see the words "xenos" or "please don't kill me". In fact they probably already have a disarm intent just to valid you on the spot.
FUCK xenos. Imagine how much fun you could have siding with your antag wiz daddy, but because of a few (a lot of) bad apples you can't.
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>>158865465
Shoot yourself out the chapel mass driver until you hit the derelict, proceed to derelict south solars and go straight south.
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>>158864778
Antag mommi is probably one of the most fun roles in this game.
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>>158863126
>>158863575
>>158864578
>type "whisper borg don't move or say anything including binary chat"
>click and press enter in quick succession
>human reaction time is not fast enough for the borg to try to press enter before you
so
hard
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See now, what the purge has brought us
See the retardation of all the players that ""our"" admins brought in to keep us from """"dying"""".

People are complaining so much nowadays about the playerbase, and yet nobody wants to face the truth; This is all the fault of the purge. It brought half of Hippie's playerbase here, and now they're here to stay, experts at toeing the line and wrecking rounds. This is all your fault. You could have stopped it. Why didn't you stop it?

Don't call it a grave.
This is the future you chose.
You made your bed, now lie in it.
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>>158865768
That really works? I shot myself out of the chapel mass driver once, floated for over 15 minutes and never hit the derelict.
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>>158766942
Pro Guide to Xeno Bio:
>Round Start
>Put 1 monkey in each cage
>Go to cargo and order 6 monkey crates
>Come back and feed 2nd monkeys
>Wait for split
>Dump 4 monkeys into cage
>Wait
>Dump 4 more monkeys into cage
>Wait for split.
Dump 8 monkeys into cage.
>Wait for monkey death
>Dump 8 monkeys into cage
>Wait for split
>Kill All Slimes, or put 16 monkeys into cage.

Your welcome 4 pro guide.

Fuck micro managing those little fuckers and dragging them around,and picking which ones you want.

Eventually one will fucking attack you and then its GG when they shock you.

The cages are way too small. Over time an accident will just happen randomly.
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>>158865841
Silicons will claim that as very potent hams and do what they can to prevent that. Also due to item use cooldown, the time to use your id, crow bar it open, store/drop one of two items, and then pull out an emag is about 3 seconds total, not counting lag or failed emagged hacks. There is plenty of time to type :b help emag. You will need one really dumb or slow typing silicon.
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>>158865878
>People are complaining so much nowadays about the playerbase
Uh
Everyone complains about the coders actually
Coders and the same old bogeyman ckeys that were there way before the purge
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>>158865841
Silence would cause probable (not potential, probable) harm.
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>>158866312
Could you explain how you would selectively breed using this method again?
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>>158866762
You don't, but the number of slimes you produce gives you more RNG^TM chances and most slimes can be gotten within 3-4 mutations.
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>>158866762
Cerulean extract to psuedo-dupe extracts and reconstitute slimes.
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>>158865878
While the purge did us no good, it really didnt cause the coder clusterfuck (hue) we have today, that's purely on cluster and company not playing the game, not knowing what the fuck gameplay and "FUN" is, so on.
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>>158867309
>FUN
please stop you're embarassing yourself
t. not a coder
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>>158867445
You telling me coders don't ruin fun shit or plan to ruin fun shit mate, cmon now.
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>>158867309
>>158867445
>>158867576

>The people who play the game the most, and understand what it needs the most can't code.
>The people who code hardly play the game at all

This is truly one of those life paradoxes, that really makes you go hmmm..

Life is really cruel.
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>>158866312
Pretty shit method. You don't get much control over what slime gets fed making desired color selection harder than it needs to be. This is far from pro.
t. Slime fucker
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Are the derelict and clown roid the only space vaults that you can get to without being a victim of RNG?
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>>158868228
Derelict and Clown roid aren't vaults. Same goes for the medical ship, pirate ship, DJ station, Goon Satellite, second teleporter satellite and the Hotline Miami satellite as well as a few other places I'm probably forgetting about.
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>>158867576
"FUN" is literally a buzzword for when you want to be contarian against any change, removal, fix or rebalance
OG wheelchair was "FUN"
wrapping paper exploit was "FUN"
sliplocking was "FUN"
secret monkey technique was "FUN"
pneumacannons being broken af is "FUN"
dude just handpick everything lmao was "FUN"
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Why is deff even in rotation?

No one likes it, and only memers, and people trying to give the server a big fuck you, before they log off for the night vote for it.
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>>158868890
I like it
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>>158867821
Its a honest shame I cant do anything but slightly alter jumpsuit values and such, id code so much fun shit if I could code like cluster.

Ah well, least the cup is on, anyone wanna check it out? Fun shit, jp and po is playing right now
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>>158868890
Engineer autists like it, cause Engi is more secluded/protected and the placement of stuff makes more sense than Box

It has the maintenance system if you get antag also, you can go all the way around the station without almost ever being seen
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Make a new thread you stupid fuvkd
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>Oh boy, time to start the spook buses up
>HoP calls it when there's just 5 tiles of void, surrounded by glass, in the hallway

Note; If it's something that can't be shot at or valided, don't bother
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>>158868498
hey cl*ster
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>>158859819
Doesn't mean it's not a bannu (and it should be by the way if you're intentionally bringing a harmful artifact), might just mean people are smart enough not to do it.
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>>158861163
>>158862179
>the borg is not at fault for breaking laws
What the fuck are you on? If the silicon doesn't kill the vox and thus breaks laws, it will get banned. Golems and silicons are bound to their directives above server rules.
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>>158868408
So is there a way I could get to them 100% of the time? I would kill for a way to get to the abandoned ship that you can pilot.
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>>158869764
I mistyped.
I meant it's not at fault for killing the vox because it's just following laws.
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>>158869162
>Engineering placement of stuff makes more sense than Box
>On deff

Fuck no it doesn't. There's a singularity generator in maint accessible to anyone who can open a single door. The RUST is half-assed and still need help from cargo and RnD to complete, the SME basic setup is half-assed and expending it is harder than box's because of the Rwalls. Atmos is in a weird L shape that prevents any massive projects, the most important air miners are stuck in a corner, only thing better (or worse depending on intent) is the easy access to the miners themselves with the door. The only TEG available is in fucking space and already connected to the half-assed RUST.
The only two things that make more sense are Tcomms placement being within engineering itself and the AME placement, if it blows up, it won't take out the SME completely and isn't like box's where it can take out the singularity containment emitters.
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>>158829371
I'm not sure what the crystals do.
The pod is an unlimited source of food.
I didn't do it but some superhuman did
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>>158869058
>anyone wanna check it out?
Got a link, friendo?
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>>158869334
People bring the Happy Mask to the station all the time.

The issue was that they actively and deliberately went on a killing spree. As non-antags. With no escalation.
"Herp derp happy mask" doesn't excuse that. Plus, the two of them only had one mask.
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