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Ermor Has Cast Burden Of Time edition.

Previous thread >>158490721

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Our pastebin
http://pastebin.com/uTZnjYwm (embed)

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod.html

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is kill.

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Maerlande or NuclearMonkee
>Jump into MP feet first
>Never create shitty threads with political images
>Work on your blogs, videos, and the wiki

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
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First for Berytos
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>>158757272
Where muh Agartha bros at?

OLM LIVES MATTER
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>>158757395
I have never even looked at Berytos once, what do they got?
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Did anyone save the scrubwarriors graphs
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>>158750190

Happily, it seems to be backfiring even here. Look at how much pushback malakal and nicknight have been getting for their most recent efforts.
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>>158757448
t-strikes, blood, summonable A melqarts and craptastic troops.
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>>158757448
Blood, decent mages, and an income bonus on coastal provinces. Their regular troops aren't too hot, though.
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>>158757448
They get demons
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>>158757501
boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/158751723/
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>>158757657
Thanks
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>>158757083

so how is that game going?
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RIP Forsete the galderman. This hero survived several rounds of combat entirely surrounded by enemies (ethereal+ironskin+stellar cascaded satyrs), getting several Shock Wave casts off and being personally responsible for half of the Pangaea casualties (the total Midgård force was around 4.5k).
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Okay, so fear.

I know that no one knows how it works and that Johan said he forgot how he wrote it.

In a recent battle, I had an SC fighting a bunch of ghosts. His morale went down at the end of the enemy turn and went up at the start of his turn. He had Heroic Valor. The thing that seemed to make him rout was just taking damage when his morale didn't rise to be sufficiently high. Anyone have any tests that they've run with fear or even just experience with it at all?
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>>158758275
It's start of the fear dude turn
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>>158758791
Okay, and this puts it in line with other aura effects too.

The amount of morale gained/lost also is subject to a roll, since it varies turn by turn.
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What's a better helmet for scaring people; Spirit Mask or Horror Helmet?
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>>158759194
It depends.
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I'm just going to echo my request for suggestions regarding text/pictures for the new additions to the roster:
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//domg/
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>>158757813
Good question.

It looks like the game is coming down to four superpowers, plus me and Nazca. Nazca is busy fighting off Sceleria, while I'm just kind of huddled here in my capring trying to figure out what to do. Ermor is pretty big, but seems to have stopped expanding and two of the capitals they hold have been under siege for a while. I'm not sure what they're doing now.

Sceleria has a lot of thrones, but I don't think they're close to winning. Still wouldn't hurt to keep an eye on them, though.
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>>158760534
Do you want them directly added to the wiki or just posted here?

In any case, here's a shitty image for 6 months in SP.
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>>158760534
Use an image from this webm for Mage Support?
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>>158760137
Depends on what?
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>>158762798
It depends if you want to scare those around you or just try to scare someone from the safe distance.
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Game: VanillaCataclysm
Turn number 17
Next turn due: 22:45 GMT on Saturday October 29th

Bishopric of Brown 2h file received
Margraviate of Green 2h file received
Emirate of Grey 2h file received
Principality of Pink Waiting for 2h file
Beydom of Purple 2h file received
Empire of Red 2h file received
Khanate of White 2h file received
Autocracy of Aquamarine 2h file received
Bureucracy of Beige Waiting for 2h file

Last updated at 19:51 GMT on Saturday October 29th
Current time: 19:51 GMT
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>>158761894
Which spell is that fire rain?
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>>158766331
Fire storm, possibly. Or flame storm. I always get those two names mixed up. 'Spells I like'.
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>>158757272
Why is the guy who made this game such a jew? Does he not want people to play his game?
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>>158769053
If they were jews they would make it like 20 buck so more people would buy it and give them more money. But they do it for a hobby and dont really care.
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>>158769382
If the game was actually made as a hobby it would be free or run on donations like df is. I would like it a lot more if people actually played the game instead of not.
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>>158769606
>I would like
Sure. But they don't care.
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>>158769709
They don't care if people play their game? I'm 100% sure you have severe autism.
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Not one single person more would play Dominions if it were any cheaper. If you have the base line intelligence and free time required to play the game and not be a retarded shitter who AIs in year two (not considered a "person" for the above statement) then you can get a fucking job.
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>>158769979

They legitimately don't. They both have full time jobs outwith working on their games. Illwinter is a hobby thing they do for their own amusement, and to produce games that they personally want to play.
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>>158766331
Fire storm.

>>158766685
Both of those spells show up in the webm, actually.
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>>158770346
Oh, I know, but I _think_ he means the one that looks like fire flies except a solid fucking wall of them. And I can never remember which one is which.
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>>158770280
>being a wagecuck
No.
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And so it ends with with MA Abysia victory.

Short game summary below.
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>>158770307
This. They're also very bad at their own game and don't understand/remember some mechanics, as mentioned by >>158758275

>>158770520
Fire Storm is a battlefield enchantment. That's all you need to know.
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Nevertheless,
>>158769979
yes, we're all autistic here. That's why we're playing this game, anon.
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>>158770659

Players:
1. Abysia - t. Malakal, new Panko
2. Blog - 5/10, beat Vanheim, didnt develop his blood, didnt do anything past beating Vanheim. Unable to field a mid-late game army apparently, off to Tartarus
3. C'tis - 4/10, big, big income, no idea what he was doing all game long, new Tartarus citizen
4. Shinuyama - 3/10, interesting uw rush plan, horrible scales and little to no game effect, Tartarus it is
5. Man - 4/10, best ally, new player, survived till the end, didnt stall, fought Ermor valiantly, new Lord of the Forests
6. Marignon - 5/10, didnt finish off Vanarus, fought Ermor well, good ally for some time, Lord of Fire
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>>158770981

7. Vanheim - 2/10, died to Blog in an early war (???), Tartarus
8. Vanarus - 2/10, was balling out of control,ate Caelum, then went AI with hundreds of mages and thousands of troops once he got ganged. Double Tartarus as a blood slave
9. Caelum - ?/10, didnt see him, died to rus real fast
10. Asphodel - 3/10, couldnt execute the usual dead plant start, very new, didnt use sacreds at all, Tartarus
11. Machaka -2/10, went bless, rushed C'tis, lost and died
12. Ulm - 4/10, ate TC, fielded thousands of troops, went ai with thousands of troops, invaded me and got soundly beaten due to lol 9 mr
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>>158770659
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>>158771263

12. Ulm - Tartarus
13. TC - ?/10, died to Ulm early on, no idea how he did, Tartarus
14. Agartha - 1/10, t. Pan, super shitter, went AI after one lost battle with all his lands and shit intact, Tartarus
15. Ermor - 5/10, spooky but didnt do anythign to em due to fighting other people all game, reincarnated as a peasant girl in Ermor dominion
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>>158771543

16. Ys - 3/10, fielded a very solid army but went AI for no reason, also cant into war at all, Tartarus
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So I'm just going out on a limb here, but I think there's a distinct possibility that Pythium doesn't like me.

Also fuck my start I don't know what I'm doing aaaaaaaaa
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>>158770981
>>158771263
>>158771543
>>158771743
sounds like a typical game of shitters going AI for no reason which eliminates the ability for anyone to effectively gangbang the leader
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>>158771743

I worked with a great warlock contract spam-scales-dormant pretender, D2F1B7, empowered him once to get vampire lords. Contract spam worked really well and provided me with my actual fighting armies, didnt lost many devils at all, most stayed with me to the end. And that was good because I didnt have ways of replacing my losses due to shit research.

When I got invaded by Ulm-Blog-Ys I didnt even have fire storm or vampires, but they were so passive and bad at fighting that I managed to buy enough time. Beat Ulm with bloodletting cast by warlocks and with fog warriors (had to tech up to that first tho).

Ulm invaded with 1200 dudes but moved around with no goal or purpose, tried assaulting me with 200 guys once and then died. No idea what that was about.
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>>158772026
Would you say that summod buffs made devils significantly better?
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>>158772279
summod changed devils?
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>>158772026

I had a decent expansion phase but I mainly worked towards having time. I know I can be very efficient as long as I dont get myself involved in a pointless war early so I was very passive towards all my neighbors, made some concessions.

Once everyone invaded Asphodel I finished him off (didnt organize the gang bang, think Ys did). After that had a solid N income so got myself MO. Grabbed Machaka when he failed versus C'tis and some of his near cap land.

At that point Rus was very much leading so when Mari came for my help I offered it gladly. Once me, blog and Mari hit Rus he just surrendered. Grabbed Caelum off him but then Ulm invaded me with massive armies and shortly after Blog and Ys.

At that point I was very vulnerable due to no rp but they were horrible at fighting. Ys moved his 400+ stack with 60 mages to my t2 throne and sat there for 20 turns or so (???). Blog, Ys, Ulm sent on me their doomstacks total like 2-2.5k troops but fighting three armies total is no big deal.
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>>158771939
>Ulm invaded with 1200 dudes but moved around with no goal or purpose, tried assaulting me with 200 guys once and then died. No idea what that was about.
sounds like a typical /domg/ game.
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>>158772437
Of course. They got fireshield 6.
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>>158772279

They are better but not much better. Their weakness stays the same, they just kill chaff slightly better.

>>158771939

Ulm had 1500h+ clocked into Dom and Shinu was Lambert, Ermor also was a good player, Mari too. No idea about many toher players but Man, Aspho were new. But funny enough they played to the end and did their best. Good job guys, would love to play with you again!

>>158771268

Yes but at that point Ys could beat me solo. I could if we exchanged places. I only was out of control with blood7/evo7/alt7 and that was like 15 turns after that
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>Ulm had 1500h+ clocked into Dom
sounds like 6 months of SP
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>>158772768
at this point lambert has lost his edge, his normie life is ruining his ability to put any real thought into his games
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Congrats. I was really looking forward to using my Staff of Storms - Soul Drain - Master Enslave combo, but you probably already had kitted golems at that point, and when players started going AI one by one I lost all will to live. The thing I hate the most is when people just leave after a single battle.

I had a screenshot of my "if you let Malakal win I will murder your family" post somewhere, but I think it's on another PC. Otherwise, I mostly joined the game to test how my favorite rainbow Ermor fares in new summod, and it was pretty alright.
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>>158770981

>3. C'tis - 4/10, big, big income, no idea what he was doing all game long, new Tartarus citizen

Mostly trying to break into Air/Earth/Blood so I could make up Staffs of Storms/cast Army of X, et cetera, in order to not be immediately raped to death by ten billion devils first turn. Actually managed it, like, two turns ago. But that was Too Late.

I'd been throwing anonymous rituals at you for about half the game and gearing up to launch a war, but my lack of nature sites kinda fucked me over. I had 5 income, having Haruspexed fucking everything. Made fairy queen summoning a challenge. You also beat me to Mother Oak by two turns. Really shouldn't have traded you that Moonvine.
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>>158772495
>Once everyone invaded Asphodel I finished him off (didnt organize the gang bang, think Ys did). After that had a solid N income so got myself MO. Grabbed Machaka when he failed versus C'tis and some of his near cap land.

I dunno what the fuck Ys was doing, I feared his elf bullshit the most and all he did was take 3 coastal provinces (which he then left). I didn't really know what I was doing either, first time Asspoodle in a PBEM and hadn't even tested it first due to normalfag problems.

Not new, though I hadn't played in a long long time.
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>>158773113

I got elemental staff, air helmet, wind bag, moonvine, treelord staff from trade this game, that really helped me with my N and A needs. Got me from A2 to A5 and from N2 to N5.

>>158773296

You still fought to the end.

I just found lack of bless/awake max dom spread to be very suboptimal for dead plants
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>>158770981
Well, might as well not subbed for it.
Shinu was in an awful state and it would have taken another 10-15 turns to sort it all out while power uping by eating AIs.

No troops, no scouts, not a single dai oni, no tengus, not even hammers to craft gear with.

I've managed a decent army of acid lions, some dai oni thugs, some devils and start of vampire lord production by the time the game ended. Was about to get me some dai tengus for air buffs.
All the tools were there to unfuck shinu.


On a positive note i had a really good laugh when this happened.
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>>158772994
Lambert only ever did well with meme nations like UW nations or popkill cancer. Give him a straight edge land nations and he is meh.
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>>158773646
I find that very true from my perspective. when lambert left and I took over Pelagia was in good shape and I was able to quickly whip u a fighting force to deal with rude squids who attacked me the turn after It took over
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I subbed into a mari with 10 shit knights no mages and 2 extra probs turn6 (not even cap ring provs just a line) in turn 6 and managed to tilt Rus into AI so I feel good about this game all in all. Lying apparently works greatly in domg. Oops i mean diplomonstering
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>>158773550
Yeah it was suboptimal to say the least. Might join another with Asspoodle soon now that I have actually tested and read up on the nation a bit, even as a headless chicken I liked the nation.
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I am glad it's over.

In this game I was trying summod for the first time. Also never played Bandar Log seriously in MP. Made a huge mistake taking Drain 1, I was hoping that my research would be at least average, but it was shit.
Sitesearching was awful too. Blog's divercity is total shit and with W1E1S3N3 I have found 0 W income, +5 E, +2 N and + 5 S in all my lands. Basically no gems for me, so my SCs were late and few in numbers. Got some bloodnomics with scouts and a bit later with the GoRed Asrapas. But my income of blood was about 30-50 per turn at best. Compared to Abysia... I don't how much he was getting, but I bet AT THE VERY LEAST it was 10 times more than mine.

I won't say anything about other players, I kinda enjoyed interactions and the common flow and common sense, but it's all about that. Scrubs gonna scrub ang good players gonna snowball. I liked general hostility towards Ermor among his neighbours. He wasn't defeated, but was CONTAINED, I commend for that all the participants. Then Vanarus scared everyone after elfed Mari. Huge coalition was formed swiftly. And then when it has become obvious that Abysia is just snowballed succesfully Ulm, Ys and me reacted swiftly too. It's all was pleasant to see.

This turn I have finally made some research targets and SCs to go after 2 closest Abysian Thrones, but just as C'tis said.. it was TOO LATE.

His victory is economical one. My gold income was good compared to his, but 2 times less gems and 10 time less blood slaves plus lagging research made my defeat inevitable.
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>>158776427

Most of the game my slave income was around 150. Only recently I got it to near 400, so 10 times yours is a big overstatement. I just had enough for contracts.
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>>158776703
did you use summod's improved abysian crossbreeding? if so, what do you think of it?
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>>158777163

I tried using them as troops but they are too bad for that. So only for patrolling.

There was apparently a scaling bug but all my attempts at fielding crossbred armies failed horribly anyway.

Plus after Asphodel has fallen I had 20N per turn and a lot of N1 mages so wolves would be a viable alternative for patrols.
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I love reading the postmortem of games, especially from players that lost. Also, nobody gets pissy about losing, they're gentlemen about it, which is really refreshing to see in a MP game
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>>158779052
I've gotten pissy once or twice but I try my hardest to keep it to myself.
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Looks like we have a ghost problem. They've started attacking me after greedily taking lands that belong to all nations. I guess it's to be expected that a nation with an early lead would try to extend it, but then I would also expect the other, responsible players to recognize it as in their best interests to stop such a nation. Am I wrong, fellow degens?
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>>158779438
>we
Sounds more like YOU've got a ghost problem
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>>158779438
>Am I wrong, fellow degens?
Yes.
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>>158779438
>it begins

Can you really not fight your own war? Like, at all?
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>>158779438
Who even borders them, besides you?
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>>158779575
>>158779638
>>158779712
t. Lemuria
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>>158779052
I think it is because even if you lose, you at least get rid of a game so you can join a new one. And games are less enjoyable the longer they are, so losers are thankful.
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>>158779842
I border Agartha, Jomon, Mictlan, Marignon, and (as of this turn) Atlantis.
=)

I think that I may be the largest nation, since my expansion went VERY well, but I'm not sure, since I have only a few scouts.

I decided to invade Marignon as soon as I could, since I thought that they would be the weakest early and I know that my strength will fall off. =(
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>>158779575
I guess you're right, a Lemuria with 20 provinces at the start of year 2 (and that's not including the provinces I have, they stand to grow much larger). People who are actually in the game were just discussing how all anyone could see was ghosts.

The /domg/ anti-gangbang instincts really are stunning. Calling out an aggressive leader of the game immediately won me censure from, well, a gang of naysayers. I'm going to war them, but their treachery has set me on the back foot. The ghosts lied to me, saying that they were planning on taking a throne, but they were really positioning an army for an attack. Now, shame on me for even thinking a player of this game could be trustworthy, but this really goes to show you that this player is not to be trusted.
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>>158779052
I think those people who would bitch about losing go AI long before anyway
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>>158776427

Funny you should say the diversity's shit, because Blog's one of the few nations with national mages for every single path. You need your pretender for a couple, and some (Fire) are way too late to be useful, but Rishis with boosters can summon a majority.

They really are a nation that's super reliant upon summons.
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>>158780316
It's true, I am quite large! I think that expansion may be one of Lemuria's greatest strengths. =)

It is a bit harder to leverage that before site searching, though. =(

I think that with any other nation, I would have a half-dozen forts under construction and labs out and larger armies. It's strange being large and just not getting very much from the land yet. Luckily, I have a lot of indy crossbows =)

Now I get to see how well my idea holds up against an actual player! Let's have a good war!
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How useful are MA Arco's War Elephants? They're fucking expensive, die easily, or break and trample my hoplites. How do I use them more effectively, put them behind a chaff horde?
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>>158781317

Extremely useful since you expand with them.

If you mean for actual player vs player wars they need some buffs as their weakness is very apparent. Berserk + mr is basic, then you can add ethereal and prot.
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nyaaa~

another nation has gone ai in vanillacat. beige this time it seems
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>>158780316
Post some pictures.
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>>158780316
are you a steam shitter?
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>>158780957
It is as you say, though you are large, you will not reach the peak of your power until you marshal the magical resources of your conquests. I see that your misleadingly named god is already hard at work site-searching.

Is it not true that nations led by wise players will be more successful? Here, then, is a question for the wise: is it better to allow the strongest nation among us to conquer still more, and to suck in more and more lands to depopulate and gems to fuel vile sorcery, or is it better to remove the cancer before it metastasizes into a truly global threat?

I hereby announce the Lemurian Extermination Victory Fund. The first player to post a report of a victory against Lemuria will receive 500 gold, and each player thereafter will receive 300.

>>158782197
Yes.
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>>158782580
get in vanheim chat
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>>158781668
100 gold is nearly 10 Hoplites, and in my experience the hoplites last longer and don't kill my own dudes
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>>158782580
>The first player to post a report of a victory against Lemuria will receive 500 gold
That's nothing.
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>>158783739
I will gladly cede two provinces to any of my neighbors for half the cut =)
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>>158783739
>>158782708
That's not nothing that's 50 Hoplites. Scoffing at 500 free gold is pretty stupid. It's free money, idiot.

Unless you're arguing that it's a bad idea to attack Lemuria. In which case, you ARE Lemuria. Or at least you will be soon.
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>>158783739
>500 free gold on turn 12 is nothing
come on lemuria think before you disinfo
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>>158781739
We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children. This necessitated expansion into Beige lands, even if they are poor and small.
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>>158783982
>>158784247
>FREE
Attacking lemuria isn't free.

It's a nice bonus if you were planning to attack him anyway, but not a large enough bonus to convince someone who didn't already want to go to war.
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>>158784247
It's nothing compared to having to commit to a war against a strong player, which I think you agree is more than a 500 gold question. Of course, if Lemuria is such a threat and Mari manages to put together a coalition, they should be joining anyway to get his lands while they're still worth more than 500 gold.
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Glad to see lizards aren't going down without a fight.

I think they'll likely still lose in the long run unless someone helps, though.
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SNEK IN THE WATER SNEK IN THE WATER
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>>158785683
Landlubbers pls go and stay go
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>>158786173
you gon get sneked
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>>158785683
>>158786173
Can't we all just get along?
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>>158786249
Time to buy 100 PD
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>>158784736
>>158784732
the fact of the matter is this
>someone is offering 500 gold to fight lemuria
>lemuria is weakest in early game because they have basically no mages and ghosts are easy to defeat with the most rudimentary magic
>it's sum1mod lemuria so his gem income is pretty small still
>will stop 18-20 provinces from becoming wastelands

I see no reason not to war lemuria now
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>>158786509
I agree with the other reasons, but 500 gold is basically a nice bonus for something I'd already want to do.
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>>158786509
Yeah, in vanilla you need to watch out for the Lemuria that shits out Centurions because they can potentially fuck up your day. And ghosts are stupidly good at fort defense in vanilla, which summod nerfs.
In summod they don't even have that, meaning their early game is uttershit.
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>>158779438
How much you willing to pay for some help famalam?
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>>158788120
I'm willing to pay 1k, including the bounty, at the beginning of the war, and another 1k after it's conclusion.
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>>158788120
Never mind I read the rest of the thread, where are you at so that I may offer my ghost busting services?
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>>158788635
It would be in your best interest to tell me where I should be aiming for because at the moment I am quite drunk and thus quite pliable.
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>>158788635
Since I want ghosts removed but don't border them, I'll match any payments Marignon makes and throw in two fire gems per turn to anyone at war with, and actively producing battle reports against, Lemuria.
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>>158790080
I'm not even in this game, but I'll pay 500 gold in another game to anybody who attacks Lemuria in this game.
Contact me on steam to arrange the payment.
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>>158790080
Just tell me where to go fuckbois.
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>>158790080
got a steam concerned? I have a feeling who you are and want to have a little chat
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So how is the early game going for everyone? I tried a blind expand because GIANTS. It was a mistake. Sort of making up for it now but man that was a bad idea.
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>>158789654
>>158790494
We have a border =)
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I normied it up for the weekend and my router is busted. May I get a 6 hour extension so I have time to go to the store and replace it tomorrow?
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>>158790521
Actually, I'm curious about who Abysia is too
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>>158790812
Oh shit we do. Fuck I thought I would be closer. Ah well, get your money ready boys.
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>>158791254
I was hoping we could be friends =(
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>>158791371
I am to drunk to be friends with anyone who isnt paying me money.
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>>158791514
I will pay you money =)
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>>158791371
I'm guessing the border between you two is 150 or around there. That would be a good place to start, it's completely opposite where he's attacking me, so it would pull his forces farthest apart.
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>>158790807
DIPLOMANCY
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>>158791653
2000 to start plus 2 fire gems a turn?
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>>158791784
I cannot pay you that much money =(
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>>158791752
I haven't even seen any yet. Did send a message saying good luck to everyone, though. Since this is a scrub game I figure I can at least relax and enjoy it instead of scrabbling to keep up.
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>>158791712
Unfortunately he boarders some mercs so it will be a couple turns before any action.
>>158791843
Unlucky bud.
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>>158785401
He split up his army into his god and some support and that "doom" stack. He is pretty much effectively repeled for now. reminder that robbledoth is leading in many graphs.
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>>158793708
>reminder that robbledoth is leading in many graphs
Do you actually have graphs to prove that?

Current leaders, IIRC, were dwarves on gems and dalkrin on research.
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>>158790807
Fucked up and lost my expansion force trying to take the third province. Luckily my pretender isn't awake, or I would have lost him too most likely.
Also, still don't have level 1 in any research.

But I'm not going AI! In it to win it!
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>>158794270
Dont worry mate, I also lost most of my expansion force. Heavy cav are no joke.
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>>158794270
Oh jeez, run into surprise mages or something?
And same regarding research. And man turns out hinnom stuff is really expensive. Like... Really, really expensive. It is painful to have to run my treasury dry recruiting five troops a turn.
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>>158791938
I found Yomi, and I think I'll find a second person next turn.

>>158790807
I'm in that position right now in ForNoobs, but without the giants. Scrub lyfe
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>>158794512
Welcome to giant nations buddy.
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>>158794650
It's just extra terrible when I got my entire starting army slaughtered turn 1 and replacing it is such a slow thing.
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>>158794512
Heavy infantry and heavy cavalry. No mages, which makes it worse, really. And they only took six casualties, so it's not like I can snatch it up with the shit I built at the capital.

Also I didn't pick Hinnom even though thematically I think they're the coolest, because of the whole having to set up blood economy thing. Good luck, lad.
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>>158794796
I have felt these pains before. Dont worry,you will recover.
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>>158794847
>>158794912
I hope I do! Also hinnom does indeed seem cool, but the part where my blood Hunters also murder the population with their very presence does seem like it's going to make life difficult. I think I'll leave blood for the moment.
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>everyone in rubbadub pretending to lose their expo force
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>>158794626

lol indystrength 7 is fucking everyone up.
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>>158795227
>implying scrubs didnt loose their expansion forces
My prophet is dead already.
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>>158795227
I fucking wish. My expansion armies now include horites by necessity. Fucking horites. They're literally cavemen with stone tools and shit. Even by EA standards that's taking the piss.
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>>158795415
Likely story, malakal
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>>158795516
>He doesn't know the glory of giant pony carts
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>>158795912
Nigger I lost every single person bar 2 giants.
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>>158795378
The worst bit is, before ForNoobs got unstarted, I was doing really great comparatively. I had taken a bunch of provinces without losing more than 1-2 chaff soldiers per turn.

>>158795912
There's a dead man in the hall of fame, I believe it. I hope no Malakal-tier player is slumming it in these games, that's probably about as entertaining to a good player as playing vs AI.
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>>158796142
It's actually a lot of fun
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>>158795912
If we want to start diplomonstering it up, let's all gangrape Kailasa. He admitted to having an awake expander, so he's probably in the best shape right now.
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>>158796142
For what it's worth, this is literally first time I've played hinnom. First time playing any giant nation really. This is going to be a !!Fun!! Experience for me.
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>>158795227
Sounds like I'd fit in pretty well if I had actually joined that one.

Instead I'm probably food for elves.
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>>158796381
What? Reading comprehension

Africa has the snek and is going uw to squid probs with it
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>>158796716
All the more reason to gangrape you, really, Kailasa. But enough talk, do your turn.
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>>158799649
I'm at work for 5 hours
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>>158799973
Ah, my sympathies then, my monkey amigo. Was just hoping we could get some turns in since it's Saturday.
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>Know I have turns due tomorrow
>know I have work tomorrow because I need that overtime
>tfw I will making impatient neets wait on me because I won't give them the turns they so crave
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>>158800683
I think I'm in a game of all Euros and me, the one American, and they keep doing the turn right after I go to work. Then I do a double 10 hours later when I get home and they've already gone to bed.
PBEM is rough.
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>>158801670
Degeneracy is an All-American game. Take what you will from that.
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>>158804884
>implying
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Ermorian Thred.
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Scelerian thread
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>>158770659
>>158771268
I remember seeing this actual post and thinking that Malakal was still going to win. Kek. Chalk another on up to the diplomonster
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How good are Demon Knights?
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>>158816551
Fear aura
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>>158815351
It doesn't help that everyone that was fighting him 1. Didn't coordinate
2. AI'd after losing 1 fight
3. was shit
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>>158790924
Please gib
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>>158817085
Granted
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What's this new six hours of sp meme all about?
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>>158770659
I'm glad it's over. Learned a lot this game, more than I did in the novice game organized a month ago or so, in general, about pretender creation and about Man. At many points I found myself thinking "if only I had access to X" or such, which gave me ideas about how I should design pretender and distribute research next time.

I've also learned how weak Man becomes in late-game without an aggressive expansion early, there's not many battlefield-clear options and mages are very reliant on troops. Last 10 or so turns I felt like I was the guy with a stick at a sword fight.
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>>158785401
>Supporting Itza over Robbledoth
Who in their right mind would want ScrubWarrior's biggest threat to win anything?
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Who's the cheapest summonable blood hunter?
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>>158823181
Generic? Vamp lords
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Pale Thred.
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I just realized that one late-game turn takes me around 1 hour. How do you guys manage more than 5 games simultaneously? Am I just a slow thinker?
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>>158826501
>How do you guys manage more than 5 games simultaneously?

Easy.

I lose before I get to the late game.
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>>158826501
I limit myself to 4 games, and hopefully by late game turn timers are on 48 hours anyways
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>>158780920
I was talking about sitesearching. Indeed in the midgame I had all the paths on my mages (but far from having a lot of useful crosspaths though) and I could have crafted a lot and utilise any type of gems.
But useful summons of Blog comes online a lot later and basic sitesearch I have to perform with my recruitable mages (god was Imprisoned). And what divercity does my recruitable mages have? It's just a joke - W1E1N3S4, and only caponly mage have it. Provincial mages are just S2N1, no random.
So, for the sitesearching purposes you have to have a huge luck to be able to find a lot of gem income with those. I wasn't lucky at all.
A lot later I have found Mages of Summer and they were casting Augury very succesfully, Jade Amazons they were casting Dark Knowledge and Voice of Apsu, finding few sites, and finally some randomly coming Earthreader allowed me to sitesearch around with E3 wearing boots. But it was already late when I have found those latest sites, the war with Abysia already outbreaked.
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>>158795227
I did too. Bandits without any oni reinforcements are really useless.
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>>158822050

You had great indie sites tho, high temple of the magii and wizards. I remember scrying on you and being very tempted to take them but decided to be a good friend instead.

>>158816883

Way too passive mainly.

>>158830081

I found next to no fire sites, some astral, did dark knowledge on ALL my land and got one site. Mainly had earth and nature income amazingly enough. Couldnt even use those for a long long time.
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>>158830412

What I did as Yomi was expand with fire onis (25g). They are solid enough, especially if you first go to where your chaos spread.

Only get bandit archers as a resource soak and have them behind onis shooting.
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Arcoscephale 2h file received
>Asphodel Waiting for 2h file
Eriu 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
Jotunheim 2h file received
Machaka 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Pythium 2h file received
Vanarus 2h file received
Sceleria 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received
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>>158826501
Being in multiple slow games at once has given me the habit of taking turns very quickly. It's only time consuming when you have to script huge numbers of mages at once.
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Any new games starting up?
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>>158835960
t. Malakal
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>>158836067

Nah. Was in AllMAMemes though.
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>>158835960
Make one
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>>158835960
http://steamcommunity.com/app/259060/discussions/1/312265256995680291/
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>>158836305

Fine.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty
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>>158836694
What's up with all the LA games?

Also, that better be an INNOVATIVE Lemuria build. The one in Degenerate seems to have fibbed, which left me awful blue-balled for some alternative Lemuria playstyle.
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>>158836640
Is knowing the player who won each game so important? I've won a couple of games and just put myself down as anonymous both times.
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>>158837673
I always thought that the innovative meme was about doing completely standard stuff and calling it innovative, like spamming chariots as Hinnom or spamming skeletons as C'tis?
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>>158837935
Wait, fuck, is that the meme? Now I feel way less bad about the Lemuria dog thing.

Still, do something DIFFERENT from a lich queen, if you can.
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>>158838062

Yeah, it's not a Lich Queen.
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Is it worth it to kit your communion slaves with rings of regen and amulets of resilience? It's 10 gems, which is cheaper than Lamia queens
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>>158838675
Those slaves would need to have quite a lot of HP for it to be worth it
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>>158838675
amulets of resilience are either enough on their own (with other reinvig maybe from spells on the master) or completely useless. Take either regen or reinvig but not both, except incidentally.

For regen, here are the requirements -
It needs to regenerate by at least as many masters as you have
It needs to not die in 1 round (otherwise soul vortex communicants would work with even a large number of masters)

Lamia Queens are special because they have a second form with uncommonly high hp and 50% regen. This means that they regen A LOT more than a human with rings. Additionally, enlarge gives an hp buff, and since they have both uncommonly high HP for their size and regenerate an incredible % of their health back, it becomes even better. With enlarge + personal regen, a lamia queen can sustain an insane number of masters.

tl;dr - don't bother with regen rings. Instead, get a chassis that regenerates a lot, like a lamia queen or a tarrasque
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>>158838974
oh, and lamia queens can cast soul vortex or have it propagated through their masters, so with regular lamia bodyguards they can have a simply silly number of masters sustained
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CanIntoHost Asphodel, do a fucking double turn.
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>>158839265
suck my dick nerd
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>>158839340
I will if you do a double.
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Could you please do your fucking turns? I saw Patala requested an extension because of hardware failure or some such a couple of turns ago and that's fine (they weren't even the last to send in their turn at that time), but even with this 48h timer, some of you guys have consistently required an extension after extension. Of course, I find this preferable to staling but come on, what's up with this game?
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Why is this shit still so expensive? It's been 3 years.
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>>158840619
It goes for 50% off every major steam sale
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>>158840565
I think it's mostly my fault. Both my PC died and had to move to my parents for the weekend.

I'll do it as soon as I can.>>158840619
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>>158840619
For starters, the developers probably aren't interested in tweaking the price to maximize profit or even selling any copies, really. They seem to be treating it as hobby project and if they make some money without having to bother with business side of things then good for them.

In addition, they are coming from wargaming background and it's not uncommon for big wargames to have pricing ABOVE AAA retail and keep that price point forever (take a look at something like War in the East: http://store.steampowered.com/app/370540/ / http://www.matrixgames.com/products/372/details/Gary.Grigsby's.War.in.the.East:.The.German-Soviet.War.1941-1945 that was released a couple of years earlier than Dom4 and is twice the price). Indeed, this so-called "grognard tax" is pretty common in enthusiast games (be it flight simulators or miniature wargame models) and presumably it presumably it makes financial sense. I would argue Dominions actually has potential even for mainstream appeal because of its exceptional worldbuilding (far inferior would-be "art house games" have become popular) but if you treat it as a wargame alone, the potential audience probably isn't much larger than the audience willing to pay whatever price they ask. Dominions 4 is actually cheap compared to other wargames (or Dom1-3 when they were published by Sharpnel games).
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Don't let the thread die.
Someone tell me why my communion numbers wrong:

15 masters, 8 slaves. All of them S1.

One of the masters has a crystal matrix and casts PoS for the slaves as soon as they cast communion slave.

An extra out-of communion S3 casts LotNS.

Turn 2 starts, and all of my masters are scripted to cast stellar cascades. As they are S2 +3, they get 20/4 = 5 fatigue, +3 because of encumbrance.

Then 8 fatigue gets divided and every slave gets 1, which they try to divide because they are all S3 and the masters are S2. But 0.5 gets rounded up to 1, so it doesn't matter.

I have no idea of how much fatigue my masters were supposed to get (please someone tell me how does that work), but the slaves were supposed to get 15 fatigue per turn, as there are 15 masters.
But for some reason they are getting a lot more than 15 fat each turn, can't remember how much of it.

Why is it? What is wrong?
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>All these Kailasa flags underwater
PANIC

What's the best way to kill an erf snek? Asking for a friend who fears for his life.
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>>158841261
What? Just reduce the price, it'll get more players and more money.
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>>158842701
Horde of skeletons is a very reliable way to kill an erf snek or stall it forever if it's not casting earthquake
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>>158830412
Just FYI Yomi. Looks like 50/50 Kailasa is going to take the water province next to your cap this turn. You don't want to neighbor a man with a snake, do you?
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>>158842832
Can lobos substitute for skellies in a pinch?
How much chaff does it take?
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>>158842989
Given that the Erf snek usually beats indies by chomping a few and then routing them due to the fear, a reasonably big stack of even normal troops has a decent change of killing it. A bit more than a hundred, to be safe.
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>>158842797
Why can't you read the first sentence of the post you're replying to?
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>>158843318
He's baiting. The same dude makes this post in every other thread.
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>>158842989
In cold1? You can rout him with 30-40 lobo guards easily.
I'm no sure if they will be able to kill it, though.
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>>158842521
Someone answer please.
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>>158842797
If you aren't able to find $40 you aren't capable of playing Dominions.
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Reminder that china is eating machaka and will have 4 caps soon, while all of the other big nations do nothing about it.
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>>158845131
Sounds like a big nation conspiracy, keeping the little guy down. War, huh, what good is it for? The big get bigger and the small stay poor.
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>>158845375
Yeah, let's eat AIs and small nations.

t. domg
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>>158772495

>At that point I was very vulnerable due to no rp but they were horrible at fighting.

You were never "vulnerable" because you had 5 gorillian chaff thanks to a summod typo that allowed you to endlessly trade and wear down any invading armies.
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>>158845131
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>>158846196

If ONLY there were ways to clear massed chaff easily and for cheap available to Ys!
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>>158836694
Riley reporting in, whats up with the map?
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What's the memest nation in Summod and ME?
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>>158838675

Why would you do that? Just add more communion slaves.

If you can run communions it implies you have cheap astral mages. Use more. Only in an emergency would I use amulets of resilience on them.
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>>158848437
Combined? Abysia maybe.
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>>158848437
I don't think it makes them particularly strong because Abysia still has a number of major handicaps that haven't gone anywhere but EA Abysia is quite meme-worthy with their new globals that give them insane F/E income, cheap Burning Ones, summonable not-balrog SC chassis and such like.
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>>158847421
I don't like you trolling Ys.

>hurr if it was me playing Ys I would defeat Abysia 1 on 1

Check the graphs. Only research is reletively the same. Everything apart from that is a lot better for Abysia.
>twice as many provinces at the moment of the start of the war
>1,5-2 as many gold income
>3-4 times more gem income
>3-4 times more troops

Let alone a huge bloodnomics
which is nowhere to be shown.

The only means to defeat THAT Abysia is to trap it into the war of attrition, raze it's bloodfarms and won't let it capture new lands from neighbours. And only after it will become wasted you can contain it and capture the most valuable Thrones.
So basically after ulmish lands fall into the hands of Abysia there were no more hope.

Now your next line will be: "I was just trying to troll Ys".
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>>158849121

Seeing as he didnt cast RoS a single time nor tried raiding me nor tried contesting my blood nor tried doing a single fuckign thing to win it can hardly be called trolling.

I said two times before that if I traded places with him I would win this war and I stand with that. RoS + fog warriors is an extremely strong combo.
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>ITT: Malakal diplomancing even when the game is already over
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>>158843318
I'm saying it's a dumb justification. If you're not interested in selling copies or making a profit, why not make it free?
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>>158849121
>>158849651

>troop and mage numbers
>mattering at all

I pity you scrubs
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>>158849447
But you had Fog Warriors yourself, so you were protected against RoS.
And moreover devils won't be harmed even with 2 RoS casts.
And moreover devils are flying so theyu CAN theoretically reach RoS-caster immediately, even if it's 1 turn RoS.

Bsically I am trying to say that 1 spell won't make you win a war. It can win you a battle. But if you have 2-4 times more resources then 1 battle for you is nothing but a useful repetition before the actual deal.
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>>158849121
>>158849651
>>158850070

>one spell cast by one mage
>doing all of this
>WOOOOOW
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>>158850123

Cant protect against turn1 RoS monkey. Well, you can but that means making items for every mage you use and cant protect the troops really.

He had an easy way to win this. I saw it. He just didnt use it.
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>>158850070
>hurr durr someone walked into my tripple RoS trap

Means nothing apart from that Pythium is just wasteful, uncareful player.

In the final outcome only sizes of gold/gem/blood_slaves economics what is matter.
Sure if the player made a huge mistake putting all the eggs in the same bag and loosing everything and after that going AI, then he is just wasteful scrub.
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>>158850530

Ys didnt even bother TRYING to do this.

He could have RAIDED my blood hunting provinces denying me the income. He didnt.

He could have set up RoS traps on my armies. He didnt.

He could have split his doom stack and raided several provinces at a time. He didnt.
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>>158850436
>Cant protect against turn1 RoS monkey.
And so what? You can kill his RoS casters with your devils because they probably won't rout even after 2 casts. You can jump with your Arch Devil first to trigger gemspent. You can assasinate RoS cater from distance or make Horrors to trigger gemspent. You can field 3-4 more armies to replace ine that were defeated via RoS.

Basically what you are arguing is just about certain stupid battle tactics usefulness. But every tactic can be countered.
But what is matters is just resources your treasury possess to win a war.
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What's this meme about registring your wins on the spreadsheet? What's the point in this?
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>>158851031

Devils die to a few RoS casts, Ys had 20+ Morgen sorceresses that I have seen. He grouped them in a doom stack instead of dividing to set up up to 5 RoS traps that could have killed all my devils turn1. You know what they were casting? T strike. 400+g cap only str mage was t striking. Well played!

I also didnt fucking have horrors or arch devils when ys and you invaded. I had evo3, alt5, blood5 and ench5. Then I rushed alt7 for fog warriors, that was enough to beat both you and Ulm. Plus Magoth was summoned last, just my luck.

Simply put I didnt have any counters up when the war started. BUT YS DIDNT EVEN TRY ANYTHING. NOR DID YOU OR ULM.

First thing I did fighting you? Killed your non fort blood hunting. You were happy with killing my raid parties of devils? Well I was more than happy losing them as long as it denied you blood.

Long story short stay bad if you cant take a fucking advice I am gratuitously giving.
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>>158851212
Stats.
Autism.
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>>158851031
>>158851386
You two are acting like children. Do we need to put you in time-out?
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>>158837884
It's not vital, but its useful information in terms of tracking and verifying for games requiring a certain level of experience.

Feel free to sign up in that thread even if you haven't recorded any wins as you, though.
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>>158850693
>Ys didnt even bother TRYING to do this.
That is the point, but maybe he, just like me wasn't prepared to waste his precious very few resorces on the questionable actions.
For example I was thinking about raiding your bloodfarms with Daikini SCs. But since I was aware that you were hunting with Vampire Lords and could easily Leech or L4L it I was very hesitant.

>He could have RAIDED my blood hunting provinces denying me the income. He didnt.

I was seeing him raiding a little.
Basically maybe he was sure that losing group of the expensive sacreds wasn't worth it to kill 80 units of your chaff and rout Vampire Lord?

>He could have set up RoS traps on my armies. He didnt.

Your armies were flying and unpredictable in movements. And moreover he was on the offence, so it's hard to make a trap when you are not on defence. Let alone your GoH and teleporting shits in mage-phase.

>He could have split his doom stack and raided several provinces at a time. He didnt.

Maybe just like me he wasn't sure that he can breach the walls when gorrilion of your chaff and devils were sitting inside. Let alone that your maneuverability due to flying option was superior. Basically it's pointless to raid someone who has flying MM3 and ability to send horrors.

You are just bringing up options, but didn't evaluate their shortcomings and price.
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>>158851910

Are you on purpose ignoring the fact I had fuckall research when the war started as I said several times now? I didnt have horrors, firestorm, fog warriors, arch devils, vampires or other shit when you guys decided to kill me off.

You MUST know when I got horrors because I started sending them on you. You also know when I got GoH or evo7.

You also could have DISPELLED my globals. I mean 3 nations cant pool dispel? PATHETIC. You could have put perpetual storm up to stop my fliers.

There is so MUCH you could have done its not even funny.

But sure, tell yourself I was balling out of control and you were too late if it makes your ass hurt less.
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>>158852221
>Are you on purpose ignoring the fact I had fuckall research when the war started as I said several times now?
According to the graphs, your research was pretty much equal to Ys'. You can stop sandbagging now, you know.
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>>158852380

LOL see

>>158771743
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>>158851386
>I had evo3, alt5, blood5 and ench5. Then I rushed alt7 for fog warriors.

That was blatant lie. You have defeated me with 2 Troll Kings (Conj 6), Fog Warriors (Alt 7), EQ (Evo5) and Send Horror spam (Blood 8). Everyone kitted, vielding a lot of gems, while hiding inside the fort with 500 units of chaff and about 150 devils.
And I in that time was having Conj 4, Alter 5, Evo 5, Ench 6 and Blood 6.

Basically the player with a lot more gems, items, blood slaves and better research defeating other players and make it sound like he is genius, while he hust has more stuff and better defence position.

You know what? You are full of shit.
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>>158852927

Um are you being dumb? We fought several turns after you invaded me, or are you sclerotic and dont remember that?
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>>158852590
Ys is that little blue line that's almost at the bottom. He was only ever marginally ahead of you in research. Vanarus is the one with the persistent lead.
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>>158852221
>I didnt have horrors, firestorm, fog warriors, arch devils, vampires or other shit when you guys decided to kill me off.
And when I decided to kill you off I didn't even had Enslave Mind. It took me 4 turns only to march up to your closest castle. By that time you already was sending lesser horrors and Bloodletting spamer and kitted Father Illearth (Blood 7).
What I am trying to say is that I have never had any upper hand in terms of quality, quantity and research compared to you. And still you are pretending like you are a tactical master who won against those who was stronger than you.
Total bullshit.

>You also could have DISPELLED my globals. I mean 3 nations cant pool dispel? PATHETIC. You could have put perpetual storm up to stop my fliers.

I can't dispell anything thanks to +5 S income and all my mages are S-hungry on the battlefield.
Basically it's already beciming silly. The guy who has 3-4 more gems than anyone, including Ermor TEACHING others how they have to spend their few magical resources.

>But sure, tell yourself I was balling out of control and you were too late if it makes your ass hurt less.
It's funny. I was saying that I think that you are stronger than me or every other player in the very first our diplo message with the declaration of war. For me it was obvious from the start that only common successful actions can bring you down. And when Ulm got rekt it have become obvious for me that the game is yours. So my ass is not hurt even for the slightest, cause outcome was apparent.

It's just disturbing to see you pretending to be tactical genius, giving advices to everyone, teaching Ys. While your victory was really inevitable thanks to huge resources you possessed.
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>>158853971

Lesser horror is blood5 same as bloodletting. Fairly sure I had Father Illearth a bit later but wont bother digging up the old turns at this point. Seeing as my closest fort was two turns away from our border I can only guess why it took you several to get near it.

Separately all of you were weaker than me but together you were stronger. I had 4 capitals (Abysia, Caelum, Asphodel, Machaka) you had 5 (TC, Ulm, Blog, Ys, Vanheim). You had more income and research and mages and troops.

I know for a fact you didnt bother trying to trade for gems for a dispel or filling the EMPTY global slots.

If you give up so soon no wonder you cant win. I will say it AGAIN. As Ys I would have WON against Abysia in this position. Easily. Not even close.
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>>158854703
A big part of that argument seems to be that Ys was unvarnished garbage as a player. In his hands, abysia would have been completely ineffectual.
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>>158819626
Thanks, got the router. All is well.
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>>158854703
>I will say it AGAIN. As Ys I would have WON against Abysia in this position. Easily. Not even close.
Of course you can say that. Because you are liar.

Actually I was aiming at empty Global slot and was considering casting Mechanical Militia, but I could do that OR gear few Golem and Danava SCs and Heliophagi assasin to try actually capture some of your Thrones. I choose the latter. But it was too late.
Also I was considering to cast Blood Vortex when I reached Blood 8, but my lab in the capital got wrecked and I only had 200 girls to do that.
So I have to choose what can I do: summon 1 Heliophagi and Danavas or to cast Blood Vortex with 30 slaves overcast. Isn't it pathetic choice?
Basically again you are trying to teach people who to do things, while you have no knowledge about their options, situation and position. The same with Ys. You are just RoS fag and you think that since Ys can into RoS he is the top notch. But graphs shows the opposite. Abysia is top notch in that position. And a few RoS traps won't change that fact.
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>>158855695
>you are liar
>you are RoS fag
Holy shit vava, calm down.
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>>158855805
> a liar
>RoS-fag

I am super calm. Let me have fun.
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>>158855695
>>158855928

See

>>158850070
>>158850230

for a good RoS trap. Being a good player means predicting enemy movement and doing just this.

I will not bother arguing with you any more, its abundantly clear you do not want any advice and refuse to accept pointers on my position. Real position. Did you know all my devils came from a maximum of 20 contracts? My army size was very much limited to that, I havent summoned a single devil otherwise. If you managed to kill the devils I wouldnt be able to replace the losses faster than 20 max per turn (the number dropped to around 10 at game end when horrors ate my contract holders). But yea, no one bothered trying to kill them even if I flied them with 2 vampires most of the time (my mages cant fly so they mostly were behind them).
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>arguing this much about a game that's over

Holy shit the autism. If you got so many problems with each other start a new game and hide your identities and see who wins this time.
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>>158856450

>Holy shit the autism. If you got so many problems with each other start a new game and hide your identities and see who wins this time.

A foregone conclusion I am afraid.
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>>158848762
Does that make EA Aby good? The Tiens in ME can make all their cap mages immortal
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>>158856694
Yes, EA Abysia is good. However, they are still extremely immobile, they have shit diversity, their blood hunters are cap-only, their mages suffer from old age and they suffer fairly extreme handicap in C3 dominion to name some of Abysia's problems. For this reason my intuition says EA Abysia in ME is only high-tier, not top-tier: their strengths have turned from big to overwhelming (for example, forget about high fire income in capital that you can use for lightless lanterns or whatever, you now have a global that can spawn E1F1 and sometimes even F3 sites in your dominion) but the counters remain the same as before.
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What's the strongest faction and in what age?
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Is there any unit that can increase the turmoil scales in a province?
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Game: VanillaCataclysm
Turn number 18
Next turn due: 22:09 GMT on Sunday October 30th

Bishopric of Brown 2h file received
Margraviate of Green 2h file received
Emirate of Grey 2h file received
Principality of Pink 2h file received
>Beydom of Purple Waiting for 2h file
Empire of Red 2h file received
Khanate of White 2h file received
Autocracy of Aquamarine 2h file received
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>>158770280
>Not one single person more would play Dominions if it were any cheaper.
I agree with this, Dominions appeals to a small niche of people who love history and mythology.
It didn't take long for me to realize I wanted it after playing the Dominions 3 demo
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>>158857739
EA Bats
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>>158858671
>>158770280
Depends. I kept the game off for a good 6 months until sale because fuck paying that much money for a game I'm not sure how much time I'm gonna spend playing.

Testing pirated version was enough to get me interested, but the single-player experience doesn't speak much for how the online game is, and it's hard to figure out how you accommodate to the schedule and game-experience imposed by PBEM.

And honestly if games were on 48 hours timer from the first turn I wouldn't be playing. 24 is perfect for me since I'm always home for 2 hours in the morning and in the evening.
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once i get done with my current agdg project im going to make a rance clone that steals all its mechanics from dominoes
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>>158831482

I like to use bandit archers as arrow catchers. They have good enough armor to ignore a fair amount of short bow attacks, and it lets more of your fire oni live long enough to throw fireballs.
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>>158860153
I thought of doing the same but figured I couldn't contain all that autism by myself.

Wanna team up?
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>>158860153
What language are you using?
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>>158860153
>>158861032
I hope you can draw satisfying H-scenes, for both of our sakes
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I don't know why people are worried about me. I have good research, but the thing you have to remember is:

I'm shit. I'm awful at this game, and always will be. The only reason I met with success against Itza is because that's literally the first time I met their army, and all other victories were won by running around before they could muster a response.
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty
Shilling.
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>>158861526
>Riley and Lemuria are the first picks

Jesus fuck why
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>>158861647
Why not?
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>>158861647
Don't worry, they're using innovative strategies.
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>>158861526
Isn't the throne mod broken? Enjoy your death 3 world.
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Lemurian thread.
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>>158862414
>implying that wasnt my plan all along
But seriously I didnt make the game I'm just shilling because I want to try out some cancer.
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Why is it always one nigger that never submits his fucking turn or does a cunting double.

Every game
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>Eunuch winning the Arena

wew lad
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>>158861441
>The first time I met their army
Stuff like this is why you shouldn't rely on second hand reports when planning.
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Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
Jomon 2h file received
Unexpected Nation 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received

>waiting for llamaserver

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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did anything new got added to summod in the last 2 months?
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>>158869971
Had ANYTHING truly new happened in the last two months?
Makes you think.
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>>158869971
Ur got slightly buffed IIRC
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>>158869971
EA R'lyeh got some of their buffs rolled back.
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>>158869971
kailasa now gets ktonian legions
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>>158869971
MA TC got recruitable A8 mages.
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Those are some pretty innovative strategies
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>>158871627

Having tried them out, they are still somewhat weak. Their troops are quite crap, and everything costs so much money. They have good magic potential IF you can get up there, but you will struggle in an early war unless your enemy i weak to whatever awake pretender you go with.
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>>158874719
I like that meme.
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>>158874957
yup, they're still shit, a slight buff is hardly enough
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Sorry about that, Hinnom.
Machaka is a strong, independent nation that don't need no scouts so I didn't know you were down there.
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>>158875113

What I don't understand is why shillwinter nerfed them into the ground when they changed their pretender chassis. They used to be able to use the Virtue, which had everything they wanted. And if it died you could resummon it quickly. Great at clearing indies, good raider in early wars, good flamestorm delivery system later on.

Now the best they can get is a retarded Sheddu, Dragon or Scorpion Man
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>>158877487
Virtue doesn't fit thematically. Like, at all.
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>>158847590

It's Hexawyr, but with some of the bad starts marked nostart. Have added a link to the original version of Hexawyr (for the tga) to the game page.
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>>158879204
I dont see why people are bothered by the two cancer nations when there are 18 slots open.
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five minutes until you stale, purp
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Is ritual of the five gates worth it?
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So who has what elemental royalty?
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>>158884192
Its a waste of a high level blood mage mostly. Its worth if hes going to be researching instead though
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>>158884209
Take a wild guess what I've got with my wide variety of deep paths.
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>>158886205
What do you aim to cast if you took a high level blood mage with only 1 in another path?
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>>158886621
Infernal Disease is my favorite, but there's a LOT of good blood stuff man
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Is Vampire Lord a good thug chassis?
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>>158887142
>chassis
If the opponent's PD doesn't have magic weapons, it's a decent thug even ungeared.
Not quite reliable enough that I'd risk sending it out-of-dominion, but still pretty solid.
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>>158887020
Yeah but most of it needs something else to back it up.
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Looking to trade for 14 nature gems. I can trade astral, fire, earth or water gems for them.
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>>158887142
>>158887503
Yeah, a flying D3 can raid without gear
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>>158887142

They're an immortal Enc0 regenerating flying stealthy D3 with Invuln 25 and Life Drain.

Yes. Yes they are very good Thugs.

Hell, you don't even need to gear them, most of the time. In your own Dominion you can do so with impunity. Outside you'll want to pick your targets.
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Pelagian Thred.
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There's been a death in the family,
Requesting a 2 day extension in the following games:
AntiquisTerra
VanillaCataclysm
GrandestMemery
MAdden_2016_Hexxy_Edition
CanIntoHost
Olathe
Latus_3_Big_Trouble_In_Little_Ragha

I understand if this is too big a request in one, some, or all of these games.
Feel free to AI or sub someone in for me if so.
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i am going to kit out a pan in full con4 gear and thug with him
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>>158890904
Oh and I am Therodos, Purple, Asphodel, Ermor, Asphodel, Ermor, and Mictlan in these games respectively.
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Ur, could you take your turn?
Having a 2-3h turn is my fetish.
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Shadow Vestal thread
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>>158891158
Battle vestal thread
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>>158891053
>Mictlan in Latus
NO FORGIVENESS, NO RESPITE
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>>158890904
I'll postpone Vanilla Cat's next turn for 2 days if you take your turn now
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>>158891293
I'm pretty sure we don't have an admin and I'm not really interested in taking over anyways.
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>>158890904
Done
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Whats thaumaturgy good for? At first glance it doesnt seem much better than the other schools apart from a few spells.
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>>158895076
Great for astral, good for nature/death.
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>>158895076
Gateway, Wither Bones, Soul Slay
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>>158891093
Ur, send your turn.

Please
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>>158890904
Olathe extension granted.
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Magic Enhanced game when?
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>>158896659
Who cares about ME?
Disciple mentoring game WHEN?
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>>158896912
I'd be down for either honestly.
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>>158896912
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>>158896912
soon.jpg
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>>158842521
>>158844369
>I have no idea of how much fatigue my masters were supposed to get
They'd get the normal fatigue for casting the spell, divided by (number of slaves + 1). So basically 1 per cast in this case.

>Why is it? What is wrong?
I'm not sure, your numbers look correct to me.

You'd be getting an extra chunk of fatigue from casting communion slave and PotS at the start, but that wouldn't affect the fatigue per turn.

I'd probably need to take a look at the actual battle to figure it out.
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If I want to be an RP fag and go No blood MA Mictlan how fucked would I be?
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>>158899097
MA Mictlan is the least bloody anyway isnt it?
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>>158899414
Yea but most people jerryrig it with the few B Nahualis that you get and a B9 god to forge the boosters. One you get Tlahuelpuchis you are basically the same as EA/LA
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>>158899097
It's doable, but it's choosing to not use a major part of your national strength
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Is there anyway for a land nation to build forts underwater?
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>>158900776
The Kelp Fortress ritual
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>>158898682
Oh right. Actually it was because of the PoS, but every turn other than the first one my slaves got 15 fatigue, so the calculations were right.
Thanks a lot for the numbers on the master's fatigue.
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>>158900836
oh, and Wizard's Tower. Three Red Seconds doesn't work, though.
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>>158901445
Shitty fucking demons cant even work underwater.
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>>158899097
In a small game that's over quickly, that's how it's expected to play out, pretty much. However, blood is your endgame so you'd be severely handicapped if you get to that stage.
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>>158901734
Obviously this means blood needs some buffs
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What's the easiest faction to learn the game with?
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>>158902050
It kinda depends on what you mean by learn the game, but Fomoria's probably your best bet because they have a variety of different tactical/strategic options and can work with a huge variety of pretenders.
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>>158902050
Abysia is pretty straightforward.
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>>158902350
Or EA Vanheim. Vanheim is a nation where you can pretty much constantly tell them 'and your next line will be...' with their sheer predictability.
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MENTOR* GAME IS UP
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/312265672107250359/

READ THREAD FOR DETAILS

BULLET POINTS:

MODS: SUM1MOD .71(hotfixed), AND WH 5.5NN


TEAMS OF 2, 10 TEAMS

NO NATION BANS, FIRST COME FIRST SERVE

PROS AREN'T EXPLICITLY BANNED BUT TWO OBVIOUS PROS TEAMING UP IS

TRY TO GO FOR A "pro and newbie" SETUP OR TRY TO HAVE A TEAMMATE THAT COVERS YOUR WEAKNESSES

Example: player A Is bad at Diplo but good at Tactical battles, so he gets player B who is good at scripting but never diplos for shit


The main point is to have plenty of time to improve each other skills in the game.
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>>158903181
shit fucked up the example. meant for player B to be a diplomonster but sucks at scripting, but you knew what I meant
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>>158903181
What if I am bad, but not a newbie?
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>>158903582
gtfo Malakal
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>>158903582
more then welcome to join, again the whole point is to try and improve yourself as a player. "innovative" strategies welcome
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>>158900958
Alright. Thanks for the question, it made me notice a bug in my calculator, so I'll need to fix that.
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>>158903582
You find a friend and play with him to learn together and maybe git gud.
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>>158890904
Hosting delayed 2 days, if you need more time let me know.
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>>158903181
Anyone want to team up with a Riley disciple? I am pretty new to multiplayer and haven't won any games yet but so far I have only lost one.
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>>158903181
>2 player teams being perfect for snek drafting
>decides to go with first come first serve anyway.
good luck trying to get those last teams to join with shit tier nations.
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>>158905090
considering sum1mod makes it so not all nations outside oceania in MA are shit tier, it should be workable.
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>>158903671
You consider Carlix your kohai?
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>>158905867
carlix has won more games then me, clearly I have sometime to learn
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>>158906251
Then shouldn't he be your senpai, making you Admin Kohai?
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>>158907106
you have taught me the errors of my way
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>Turn host in 18 hours
>Lets spam redo turn 5 times

Maybe I'll wait until tomorrow to take my turn then
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>>158905867
We are playing a innovative strategy!
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>>158907348
What if I say please?

>>158907348
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>>158907349
I mean, y'all already grabbed MA's toppest disciple nations. The only thing I could see going wrong is an early game rush, but if you live through that you're basically going to have an easy time winning.
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>>158794626
you found him
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>>158902050

Tir na Nog

- Simple thugs
- Thunderstrike
- Big nature buffs
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Hey lads, I'm working on a project. I'd appreciate it if you could list what nation you believe is the best, in your opinion, based on both their mechanics, and their lore.
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>>158909971
MA Pelagia is the best nation.
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>>158909971
MA Ermor is the best nation.
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>>158909971
EA Xibalba is the best nation.
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>>158909971
LA Riley is best nation
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>>158909971
America is the best nation
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>>158909971
EA Fomoria is the best nation.
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>>158910118
Care to share some reasoning? From all I gather from their lore, it's about the powerful Triton Kings and the excellent aquatic mages and troops attempting to maintain their control over their kingdom, while their people start to forsake them for the land and its wonderful things.
>>158910243
Well, the whole forbidden power thing is quite neat, and being the soul-destroying end of the world is always enjoyable.
>>158910356
Already chosen that, I'm using y'all to gather the necessitated counter arguments.
>>158910362
Who doesn't love Lovecraft?
>>158910498
Irish Mythology is sweet, and the cursed units, the giants, and the Nemedians really do combine to make a nation that's true to their lore.
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>>158910585
Consider LA Atlantis. Like totally seriously. A nation that has had the absolute shit kicked out of it to the point where they're not even in their natural underwater habitat anymore and they've only become stronger for it, preparing VERY well to combat the doomsday scenarios of their age (Lemuria and R'lyeh).
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>>158910872
A very good point. Thanks, Anon.
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ForNoobs Tien Chi, do your turn. I've gotten used to multiple turns a day.
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>>158857860

The only four on the mod inspector are the Monster of Lust, the Prince of Fraud, the Daeva of Destruction and the Daeva of Ill intentions. So really only high end unique things available to late game blood nations or Caelum.

Plenty of units Cause Unrest, such as satyrs, and every 15 points of unrest counts as a turmoil scale for the purposes of things like Yomi's Chaos Power units. The pillage command also increases unrest, as do some spells/globals.

So 90 unrest in an order 3 province counts as a turmoil 3 one for chaos power.

Otherwise, events or stealthy preachers with a turmoil dominion.
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>grey is huge
>white is eating beige

what else is going on in vanillacat
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>>158913347
Game is postponed 48 hours for purple
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>>158903649
Does everything around here have to revolve around Malakal? At one point I thought he was a mod nation, a summon or something.
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>>158914509
t. Malakal
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>>158914509
Please provide the source to these adorable engrished touhou comics.
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>>158916358
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?utf8=%E2%9C%93&tags=shangguan_feiying&ms=1
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>>158769979
I'm 80% sure the devs do. The 20% uncertainty is because they're Swedish, which throws off results.
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Has anyone here ever played the first dominions?
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>>158918928
that was back when the last person done had to eat the bagel, right?
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Why do indy heavy cavalry and knights always have to spawn on farmlands with absolutely no resources? Some of us might want to supplement the deficiencies in our national troop choices, you know?
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>>158921235
build a fort on it
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Ichytids are pretty much better than regular MA Atlantian infantry right?
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>>158923502
Kinda looks that way to me. War Shamblers are pretty good, but I'd probably rather have ichtyids than any of the size 2 atlanteans unless I felt a burning need for javs.
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>>158923812
War shamblers are pretty good but they are hard to mass. Need numbers now to fight Ys.
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>>158924024
Fight UW or on land?
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>>158923812
What research do the both of y'all have?
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>>158924163
Underwater. War lobsters are also good but I have limited funds thanks to arco being a dick. Fire jellies are also not an option right now.
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>>158924363
Ok, well those are the two I'd rec. War lobsters will generally do more for you than 5 ichtyids
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>>158924459
I can recruit Ichtyids 2 turns away from their cap though and my cap is constantly under siege by arco and his retarded mermen army so getting guys out of it is a bit of a bother.
Cant wait until monster fish.
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>>158924634
war lobsters are not cap only, I thought
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>>158924760
Dont have the money for another fort, I pushed too hard on rushing down Ys.
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>>158924918
uh, if you have no cap you have no income
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>>158923812
I'd rather have Atlantian Infantry, unless you're facing cavalry or other high defense units (then use the guys with nets). 1 attack and 2 defense difference is a pretty big deal, and Atlantians have poisoned weapons rather than shitty stone ones.
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>>158891053
>people who play the same nation several times at the same time
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>>158925092
I know. Its a pain in the dick anytime arco comes around and sieges me again. I dont even know what the fuck he is doing at this point, he has thousands spent on shitty mermen and now he sent four mystics underwater. I'm just going to murder them with water elementals again.
>>158925227
Ys's main fighting force is a handful of blessed regenerating glamoured up cavalry and sacred cavalry mages that cast mistform on themselves and fuck up my guys so I am sticking with the ichtyids for now.
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I have turns for four different games to do, all of them are in the late game, and I just don't feel like doing them.

Also, three of them are due before I get off work tomorrow and one is due about an hour after I get home.
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>>158923812
>25 gold
>19 resources
>size 3
>13 prot
>13 def

its not even sacred why
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>>158925718
load up a test game. Make equal gold armies with all of the units pictured. Who wins? The answer may surprise you.
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>>158925718
Because MA Atlantis is worst Atlantis and I should have gone in as Riley instead. Mind blast those shitty morvarc'h knights to death.
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>>158884209
Well there's this.
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>>158925757
But could they beat an equal amount of "snibeti snab :D" shamblers?
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>>158925718
They're tough and hit nearly as hard as giants.

Before buffs they're surprisingly good troops. They won't beat top-tier stuff, but they'll easily smash most humans.

>>158925757
None of the units there are particularly good so that doesn't prove much.
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>>158926887
>None of the units there are particularly good
Unfortunately they are whats available to me.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11542860
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Do different domes stack on the same province?
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>>158927508
>no votes for cirno
?
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>>158927508
>tfw not even nominated
I guess I'd better shitpost harder.
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>>158927854
who you
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>>158927508
>no t. Pan
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lol...
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Spiral staircase
Rhinoceros beetle
Ruins street
Fig tart
Rhinoceros beetle
Via dolorosa
Rhinoceros beetle
Singularity point
Giotto
Angel
Hydrangea
Rhinoceros beetle
Singularity point
Secret emperor
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>>158928081
What the fuck is this then?
I was just reading ancient Sumerian stuff on how to become god and it included fourteen sets of "me". Quite the coincidence you would post fourteen random things the very same moment.
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>>158928560
It's nothing worth concerning about, proceed as usual.
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>>158928606
It's too late. I already feel a bit closer to heaven.
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>manual said that early age rus and middle age uruk would be the next nations to come out
>3 years later and all we have are ragha and Ys
I mean, Ys is neat, but I was looking forward to seeing what Ur could do with proper weapons and armor.
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>>158928717
Oh, and please ignore the "kissing of the phallus" as one of the spheres thing.
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>>158928835
Not a chance gay boi
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>>158928872
You'll regret saying that after I become the Pankoman around here.
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>>158928924
Pankoman or not, you know you'll always be a slave to the dickings
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>>158928962
Joke's on you, I'll be making you my gay priest as my first degree as the Pantokrator.
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Can you pillage with stealthy units?
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>>158929831
You can pillage only in provinces that you own, and units that are pillaging will not be stealthed, so they'll appear in fights in unforted provinces and so on
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http://steamcommunity.com/app/259060/discussions/1/312265256995680291/

can some t.malakal please join so we might start already
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>>158934412
>Early Age, max 16 players
>Players so far: 3
uhhhhhh
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What's the best tactics for deploying cavalry?
What about cavalry archers?
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>>158935290
>cavalry
Attack rear with two groups to flank.

>cavalry archers
Don't.
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>>158935290
Pro-tip: The "Stay away and fire" diddely-doesn't really work so no mongol tactics allowed. Costly archers with higher defence?
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>>158935416
>>158935445
>Don't.
>no mongol tactics
Fair enough.

Thanks.
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>>158935290
cavalry archers can be great if you use them properly
just have them fire at things in a line formation, if the enemy gets too close they'll still get the 2+ attack charge bonus
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Thinking of picking this up when it goes on sale. What am I in for?
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>>158939006
It depends.
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>>158936489
Everything can be great if you use it properly, but generally when you recruit a mounted archer you are paying enough to recruit an archer and a infantry unit that could act separately istead of an archer with less precision than a regular archer that gets +2 on first hit.
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>>158939109
except when you're Sauro.
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>>158939006
Do it. I had lots of fun with this game, even if sometimes I hated it (when games go on for a really long time, micromanagement can be annoying).

I don't regret buying it and would totally recommend it.
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>>158939195
Sauro sucks.
Also yeah, LA china has to get mounted archers but still don't like mounted archers in general unless you are forced to get them.
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Stupid shitter.
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>>158939312
>New Llamaserver feature!
>If a player is the last one to send his turn 3 times in a row, he gets automatically kicked out of the game and replaced with indies.
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>>158939293
You get LA China's mounted archers and use them as shock cav instead of archers. Same goes for the sacreds.
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>>158939312
Check this:
>>158890904
>>158891053
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>>158939603
Death is not an excuse to stop sending turns.
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>>158939603
wouldn't be a problem if the stupid fucker made his double turn
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>>158928081
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>>158928081
You said rhinoceros beetle twice, asshole.
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>>158941201
>Didn't know that's how it goes
exposed non-jojoer
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>>158941262
>Doesn't know the meme
Lurk moar.
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>>158941307
>memeing about a show that memes itself
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>Jojonies
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>>158942032
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>>158942032
http://www.llamaserver.net/doAdminAction.cgi?game=Domgs_Bizarre_Adventures&action=showstales

clearly jojo weebs are superior to the average domg shitter
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>>158942214
Impressive.
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>>158942214
What does staling mean?
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>>158928025
I got a hearty chuckle out of that.
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>>158942614
Staling is when your turn file is 'stale', i.e. not from the current turn.

It happens when you fail to submit a turn before hosting.
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>>158942659
>>158928025
There was this one mod game with the Bullshit spells mod. The mod scrambles the paths and research necessary to cast all of the spells in the game.

And so, with the mod, Astral Corruption became an N6E6 Thaumaturgy 7 spell.

One player decided to base his whole build around casting it ASAP. He got it off around turn 40. We all saw the dire portent declaring it was cast but there was no AC in the list of globals. Turns out that since this version of AC was a Nature spell and not a Blood spell casting it horrormarked the caster. The AC casting player's god was instantly killed by a doom horror. He went AI next turn.
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>>158943108
That now sounds like the best mod.
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>/domg/ didn't get the spooky board skin
why even unlive
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>>158944202
I'm pretty sure it got it.
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>>158945642
>not using 4chanX
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>>158943147
I'll see if I can make a second edition.
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>>158948020
Yes, please.
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So does LA Mari love or hate demons? It's kinda weird since they still have celestial favor despite being fallen.
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Admin, let's speed up the game. It took me 30 minutes to do my turn last time. And I don't know what you guys are doing during those 48 + 48 hours. Well, Ermor may do his micromanagement, but what about others?
Stop with the postponing, please.
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>>158950000
They're Tsundere for demons.
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>>158944202
Unluckily it does. Luckily you can just block s.4cdn.org/css/spooky.662.css and it will go away.
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>>158950000
>"Ermor was destroyed, but the Infernal Lords demanded continued sacrifice and devil-worship became part of the faith"
Sounds like they hate it but can't do anything about it: the demons are there to stay and Marignon can't do anything about it. People try to make do with the situation but are in fact living on borrowed time, you can't make a deal with the devil and expect to come out on top.
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>>158950000
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>>158951342
Is LA Man the most rational nation ever?
>spoopy magic starts spreading
>you could ignore it and eventually let it control the nation like Ulm
>you could use it and then get fucked in the ass by it later like Mari,Ermor,etc.
>or you could SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING BURN THE FUCKING FORESTS LEAVE NO WITCH ALIVE

A shame they're not that great game-wise or I'd play them more.
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>>158952780
Just get good.
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Was Nazca set AI by the admin?
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>>158954594
in that case, I'll be going AI too.
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>>158928081
Rejoice. Through my lifelong study of mysticism I, Muhammad Avdol, have uncovered the great secrets of fate and acquired the stand MADE IN HEAVEN. With it I will remake the world and attain heavenly paradise for all.
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>>158927892
Malakal
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>>158955258
it was nice playing with you, nice memes
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I'm just going to drop this in here.

He has already won, no matter what you do.
Can't really see the units in 165 or 31, but I'm pretty sure they are heavily guarded too. Anyway I don't have teleport yet and I don't think I would be able to defeat his burning ones.

Also Ctis' cap is mostly empty because of him attacking Ermor.


Well done, Abysia. Won before turn 40.


PS: His level 3 thrones were indie last turn, he has just captured them and has H3 guys to claim them in there. Too many level 3 thrones, I would say.
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>>158955258
And in the end people were too busy diplomancing each other to notice the true threat.
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... he wasn't even winning

Good Job, Abysia
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>>158943108
That's one of those fuck ups that are so epic you know people will remember years later.
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SORCEROUS AID.
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>>158958375
explain
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>>158958375
Firestorm?
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>>158958449
>>158958463
His best spell was star fires.
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>>158958463
it's only turn 15.....
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>>158958583
>>158958594
He has An E9 N9 bless, you think they just beat Ulm's asses with their maces?
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How do I make a nation-restricted spell unrestricted?
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>>158959025
Their god actually got maced to death too, but this was in ulm dominion.
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>>158959025
Why would you take a dualbless on LA Abysia? I can see the argument for EA but LA only has mediocre cap-only sacreds and sacred smoulderghosts.
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>>158960394
apparntly to meme ulmites
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take your turn rubbadub squids

dont be afraid of the big african snek
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>>158960394
Seems to be working so far.
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Warbreds would have worked just as well, considering that he'd be able to buy a lot more of them with the extra scales.
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>>158957546

Oh shit. The rest of bizzare should take note of this unless you want the game to end very soon. The only way to stop this is for some lightning blitz on Abyssias thrones.

I'd do it but I'm kinda stuck in my capital by Ermor. If he'd go away I'll do what I can.
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>>158955258
>>158957546
This is honestly hilarious
I'm sad that I only subbed in for this game and didn't join up when it started, there was actually stuff going on and nobody staled or went AI like a bitch
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>>158961774
Ur there is literally no way to win since he will claim thsoe thrones next turn and formoria doesn't have CT
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>>158961946

Maybe he doesn't have the required H dudes on them?

PS I consider this a victory for myself since you weren't able to kill me
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>>158962049
We are already dead Ur. New turn is up.

PS I consider this a victory for myself since you weren't able to kill me
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Good game everyone!
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>>158962321
Good game Abysia.
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>>158962321
Congrats, that was a pretty speedy win
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Damn, and I was debating with myself whether to hit Ermor or Abysia. Decided for Ermor because he's second strongest in the game and was fighting other wars. Guess I made the wrong choice...

Anyway, GG.
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>>158963205
>>158962742
>>158962321
>>158961915
I agree completely I made the throne count pretty wonkey with 10 point win with two lvl 3s. Next game I will be more generious with my lvl 2s and 1s rather then so many 3s.

I'm extremly happy everyone was prompt in turns and we had minimal stalling too. Everyone was really into the game as well which was nice to see

overall one of the best games I admin'd
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>>158962321
I don't get it. What's going on?
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>>158962321

Nicely played. I had a lot of fun even though my plan to steal Niefels cap quickly backfired spectacularly. My efforts to blame Ermor for the worlds problem was probably mostly ineffective, but it was a fun bantz.

My thoughts on EA Ur with the Summod changes: Their troops are still pretty bad. They got giant costs for their infrastructure without the benefits of giants. Their battlemagic is slightly improved with easier recruit of swamp shamans, but again it's hella expensive to get your forts + temples + labs up. Never used Sirrushes but I still don't feel they are worth the cost unless you build a bless around them.

My mistake was my early aggression against Niefelheim. My original plan was to bunker up and get a few forts up, so my battle-magic could become dangerous. But I got tempted by a potentially easy capital steal. And then it went downhill. With enough Shamans out, and a healthy dose of Gudu's for battlemagic casting storm/earthpower and spamming bladewind/tstrike I could probably have bested Ermors ponies. But having poured way too much gold into national troops that were mediocre at best, I had only gotten up 2 forts by year 2, and not enough money to recruit all the mages I needed.
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>>158964367

that's a cool pretender title tho
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>>158960556
ye riley, get your fucking turn done
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>>158964463
I had my augers set up to magic dual your amazons if you ever let me catch your army but you noticed that I'm sure and just ran home. Lizards was also pretty ineffecive becuase all he did was throw chaff at me and was spammin glong dead horsemen way too late into the game to matter.

his foul vapours would have worked but I had lizard shamon provinces up for a good 14 turns so I had all the counters I needed for that
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>>158964463
I told you you couldn't handle my giants.
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How useful is the raid command?
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>>158965103
Very situational.

When people say 'raiding,' they usually mean actually taking provinces. Unless you're trying to cripple cap recruitment with flying raiders as a supplement to unrest raising spells or similar, you're not going to have much success with it.
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>>158965103

As far as I understood it, only really worth if you have stealthy dudes with pillage, because you can sit safely in provinces and raid stealthily without the enemy able to hit you back.

But honestly its probably better to just outright take the province?
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How's everyone doing on this fine morning? Have you seen my teeth?
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>>158964735

I was about to Shadow Blast spam your ass, the horsemen were only to hold the line.
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Marigon you fucker take your turn.
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>>158966382
aniti magic and spreading out my troops bby
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>>158967682

Yeah, after I had gone destroyed your army and gotten halfway into your territory, after which I would have had other things to throw at you.
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>>158968054
you act like I didn't have these things already online and operational
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>>158968150

And you act like you knew all along what I was doing when you said I was spamming chaff.
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I rate this game HEAVEN/10. The only down side was that it was very short due to one sided throne distribution that I just used to steal the win from a bunch of stronger nations. Overall this is what a game should be. Zippy fast turns, 0 stales, dedicated players who all actively engage in diplomacy.

The game went smoothly from my perspective although I was forced to improvise a lot due to changing circumstances. My build was a Dom5 N9A4 O3 P3 H3 D2 Misf2 M3 dormant Cryosphinx. I was hoping to blob like crazy in order to outrun the loss of income due to Death scales. Magic scales and a dormant pretender were supposed to help me get research for mage support during early wars. The blobbing didn't quite work out. I spawned in a vast underground complex of cave and all the provinces had really shit income. This delayed my wooden palisades (lol) and I couldn't get enough Salamanders for an early war. My research was OK only thanks to Malphas showing up on turn 2. One of my expansion routes got blocked off by R'lyeh which was doing the real blobbing with an awake expander Wyrm. I managed to negotiate a border with R'lyeh but I knew that I couldn't let him stay on the surface because on this map he had a ton of water provinces just for himself. I didn't want to piss him off because an early raiding war with an angry fish would cripple me. Importantly I managed to grab a zotz province before R'lyeh did. I immediately popped down a lab on it and spammed camazotz, zotz and occasionally Misbred from the cap. I used them for mobile raiding for the rest of the game.

I eventually managed to break out of the caves and into the surface. There I met Mictlan and I was immediately approached by Ermor who offered that we join forces and gank Mictlan and so we did. I raided and annoyed Mictlan a bit with zotzbut overall I didn't commit to any big battles and let Ermor and C'Tis do the real fighting while I continued expanding.
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>>158968280
I had the graphs so yes I could, I saw the spike in research and knew you spammed from lizard warrior sto sauromancer spam, Plus I had scouts in your forts watching what you were recruiting. Plus as a poitn of order I always try to cast antimagic no matter what I expect as it's just a nice buff to have
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>>158968370
It was then I noticed that after initial expansion I border two level 3 thrones and a level 2 throne with 10 points necessary for a win. The next closes throne was through R'lyeh territory. From the get go I was conspiring with Fomoria about a war to eliminate the fish. Around turn 15 Fomoria told me he was attacking R'lyeh. At the same time R'lyeh asked me for a NaP so I took it for a sign of weakness and attacked immediately. Fomoria's turned out to be disinfo and I commited my whole army to a solo war against an enemy I could not defeat entirely. The war with R'lyeh was interesting with back and forth raiding and temperature ritual duel but my armies were unmatched by him on land. It was shaping up that I would be in an eternal raiding-fest against fish with no end in sign but thankfully R'lyeh agreed to peace in which I let him keep some land holdings. I used the emerging threat of China as a bullshit excuse to cease fighting. I had already gained access to a second lvl 2 throne.

The final stage of the game was me teching up to Firestorm while trying to make sure I don't get attacked by any of my neighbours. I needed a strong spell to take the two lvl 3 thrones in 1 turn and then hold them. With firestorm coming up I used the pretext of fighting Ur who was an ally of China to move a bunch of troops next to one of the thrones without raising suspicions from Ermor.

Turn 36 I got firestorm turn 37 I entered the two lvl 3 throne provinces with H3 priests fire shielded chaff and mage support. R'lyeh tried to knock me off the thrones but his armies were insufficient.

This was just a short summary of the game and how I got a win out of a rather middling position in the graphs. It doesn't do justice to the depth of the subterfuge and backstabbing that was going on in this game. Not to mention the memes. Truly one of the best games I've played. I would really like to see a remake.
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>>158968714
I wasn't in the game but that sounds like a nice and decisive game plan supported by appropriate diplomacy. Well done.
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I want a remake with similar players. This game went sanic and was fun to play.
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>>158962321
Congratz
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>>158969483

Less dumb map however.
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So I started a newb game a few days ago as MA Arco. I've got 15 provinces of a 60 province map, with 6 players by the end of year 1. My question to you guys is, should I rush my closest neighbour (Caelum)? I already have a fort going up (finishing next turn, with a lab already constructed), and he's got like 6 provinces including his capital. If I can't rush him down right now, when would be a good time? I also a have an erf snek if that tips the scales in my favour, I think he went with a dormant rainbow
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>>158969957
He will raid the fuck out of you if he's not utterly incompetent. Are you able to deal with birdraiding? If so, take him out now. If not, don't get involved.
You're in a pretty great position already, unless somebody somehow got even huger.
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Does anyone have the map file for Desert worms? The page in the archieves won't open up so I'm wondering if any anons have it sitting in their folder
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>>158970243
I can probably deal with raiding. I'm afraid of when he gets massed mages and starts tstriking. The reason why I think he's going dormant rainbow is that he had no sacreds in the battles I spied on, and he doesn't have the expansion you'd expect from an awake expander (though it may have just died to the throne that borders his cap), so I only really have to worry about his regular troops.How do MACaelum's standard troops match up against MAArco's?
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>>158969957
>>158970243
He'll raid you one day regardless of whether or not you fight him now. Fighting him now means that he will have vastly fewer troops to raid you with. Kill him and kill him now.

>>158970658
His flyers are very durable in cold 3, but cost twice as much as hoplites and don't win 1v2. If he uses mammoths, bring elephants specifically to counter them, but position the rest of your troops to either the far north or south rather than in the center to ensure that they don't get run over when the elephants rout.
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>>158970810
Imma spy to see if he's still got mammoths, the ones in his expansion party are pretty afflicted
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Shoutouts to the players (in no particular order):

- China hitrer/10 thanks to both the sub and the initial player and their refusal to cede ground in spite of being constantly ganged against I managed to stay under the radar for long enough to win. The perfect boogeyman, would shill against again.

- Lizards wat/10 Did incredibly well with a build that had no right to work IMO.

- Fish honorabru foe/10 Even though I bullied them a lot fish harbors no hard feelings. The game could have easily been his had the throne distribution been different.

- Yomi rip/10 no one blames you for losing to China

- Niefelheim survived/10 fighting both china and ur ain't easy

- Ur gommie/10 china's one and only ally

- Ermor diplomonster/10 every turn a was afraid that ermor would organize a gank against me like he did to so many others. Thankfully the unpredicable lizards slowed him down a bit.

- Helheim elf/10 even though you were fighting china nobody wanted to help you because you were an elf.

- Fomoria tricked me/10 played me like a damned fiddle

- Machaka hard counter/10 waited too long to hit china. he had some of the best tools to kill wot5e (webs, arrows, elephant) but waited too long to do something.

- Mictlan coolstory/10 your reputation precedes you
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>>158970989
>coolstory/10 your reputation precedes you
What is his reputation? Awful diplo?
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>>158970989

I was never an ally of China though, but it was in my best interest to blame Ermor for everything in the world as he was a bigger threat to me than distant TC. I did agree to attack Niefel at his suggestions though, so I guess I was the closest thing to a friendly nation he had. Had I taken Niefels cap I had plans to join in on attacking chinaman however, even discussed the fact with Helheim.
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So is MA Aby actually good or is everyone else retarded
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>>158971329
He is supposed to be a good player, but did a mediocre job in this game. That's the joke, he is implying Coolstory is mediocre based on what he did in this game.
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>>158971376
Bizarre was EA, senpai. And he basically stole our wallets and ran away with them.
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>>158970989
What the fuck is Niefelheim supposed to do with all its water gems?
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http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/312265672107250359/

2.5/10 teams in.
Find a senpai/kouhai and join the game!
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>>158971616
Wolven winter?
Maybe maelstrom.
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>>158971905
>maelstrom
>have no idea what to do with water gems
>so get more water gems
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>>158971995

Maelstrom gives you ALL of the gems.

But the real answer is Vengeful Waters
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>>158971712
I was Bizarre Niefelheim if anyone wants to team up with R'lyeh. I think I made a good go of it for my first multiplayer game. Discounting the retarded bless of course.
>>158971905
If only skrati weren't slow to recruit.
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Reminder to join games:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=CastInTheNameOfBobYeNotGuilty
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>>158972168
Someone play with him, he was based.

Also kouhais should post here asking for a senpai to play with them and teach them.
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I need a Kohai to teach me how to feel again
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>>158972495
s-senpai?
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>>158971616
Celestial Rainbow!
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Can Malakal and I join? We want to run an Ermor/Asphodel team with an innovative strategy.
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>>158972495
Look no further Snepai.
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>>158971616

A water bottle for every mage and commander in your army

Summon water elementals in nearly every battle

Spam them on mages so they can spam even more falling frost

Summon a trillion winter wolves
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>>158972495
t. Malakal
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>>158973349
Sure, who are you?
Malakal?
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>>158943108
I want to thank the player for being a good sport and sending me screenshots from when this happened.
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>>158977847
I'm not surprised he went for the cancer global with a pretender name like that
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So uhhh I'm going to test something when I get home, but before I bothered I thought I would ask here. Does the "Halt Sacred" effect work on a non sacred unit receiving a bless from a shroud of the battle saint?
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>>158978029
I was going for super cancer aids on the name, or ArchMeme. I dont even remember if I wanted to send ArchMeme or that cancer.
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>>158978132
It's a shitty effect that almost never works, so that doesn't matter at all.
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>>158978132
Besides most of the time a dude with a Shroud would either be a Golem. I guess itll be okay vs Skrattis with shrouds though.
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What's the most cancerous but effective thing you've seen happen in a game? And I mean in an actual game, not outside of it.
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>>158978580
Me winning with cancer nations while only 1-2 people were not AI'ed or staling. Happened like 5 times, and I was too embarrassed to even add half of those games to sum1's chart.
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>>158978580
MA Marigon self pillaging to produce tons of flagellants blessed with B9.
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>>158978794
>throwing off sum1won's statistics-gathering for selfish reasons
Why
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>>158978950
Because it can't be considered a statistically-significant victory if you're just eating AIs.
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>>158978903
I think they might have been quadblessed but I only remember the blood.
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>>158979053
Making people go AI via cancer is a form of victory.
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>>158979123
Eh...
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>PBEM manager didn't send the 2h and I staled

Fuck
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>>158979091
>>158978903
There were S9S9F9B9 Tenescowri
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>>158979240
>The pretender called AI is one of the only ones not to have gone AI
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>>158977847
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>>158979329
He did after that.
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>when you conquer a nerd and none of his provinces are sitesearched
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>>158979294
Sorry, W9S9F9B9*

Also, any strat that advises you to pillage your cap on Turn 2 is a GOOD strat

After that, I mostly consigned the pillaging to a single low-value province or the front lines where the additional dudes were needed
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Why are EA Ermor and later Ermors so different?
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>>158979803
because resurrecting notJesus is not a good idea
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>>158979803
Because death magic changes people.
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>>158979329
It's like pottery.
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>>158967662
Done. I'll have you know I spent the whole time since I got the turn thinking about it. Well, that and being stuck at work.
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Do to some recent comments I will be changing teh format of the team picking/nation choose shortly, Please wait warmly
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>>158979407
>when you search all your sites and find fucking nothing.
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>>158979451
Pillaging as MAMari makes flagellants?
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>>158980729
Yes, especially in your capital in high dominion.
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>>158980770
It doesn't seem to be doing anything in this test game I'm running, is it part of a mod?
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Hey there mictlan, just on my way to bust some ghosts dont worry.
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>>158980960
Summod.
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>>158971346
Why did everyone hate me so much :D
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>>158981458
I thought you would be an easy target to hit while you were fighting Yomi especially since Hellheim offered to tag team you.
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Rules have been changed now,
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/312265672107250359/?tscn=1477952330

changes made to make it more appealing:
-Nation picks are now snake drafted
-more lvl 1 thrones then lvl 2 thrones
-I will break up my combo with carlix since many people feel we are too experience to play together even with our innovative strategies. Gonna teamup with Bloodyusenames1 instead
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>>158982071
If your approach were different I think you may have succeeded. If you both raided me and rid me of my gold income I could not sustain sacred production In 2 forts and you could overwhelm me economically.

However you needed a better idea than smash blessed troops into mine, since tien chi has pretty amazing sacred troops.

Machaka with his archerspam wrecked 20 of my cap only sacred. He could have won this war if he used flaming arrows in our first engagement. Thankfully he didn't and tower shields showed that they are good at arrow catching.
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>>158983183
Yeah I was thinking of just running around taking your provinces but I didnt expect your sacreds to be so beastly so I went right for the fort.
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If I teleport a mage onto an enemy army the same turn I attack it with an army of my own, does the mage arrive with my own army, or does he fight the entire enemy army single-handedly?
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>>158984271
Single-handed.
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>>158982550
Why are the translations on all of these things wrong? Is that the joke?
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>>158984271
>>158984294
The only exception to this is a stealthed army already in the province. If they decloak (are ordered to attack the province they're in rather than sneak and attack) they show up during the magic phase fight.

>>158983390
TC's sacreds are also uniquely good vs giants because of their built-in cold resistance and the fact that defense is much better against low attack density. They basically negate both of the offensive portions of sacred giants.
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>>158982550
Current status.
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>>158984556
We need to find the most charismatic and devious novice to be Coolstory's kohai
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>>158984676
Oops, Coolstory was in the senpai column?
It's a typo, he offered himself as a kouhai after his awful display in Bizarre. I'm correcting it right now.
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>>158984556
Doesn't Malakal have a kohai already?
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>>158984929
Malakal IS a kohai
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>>158984929
What do you mean?

No, sum1won won't be Malakal's kouhai if you are asking about it.
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>>158984840
Have Carlix or Nick teach him their smooth talking ways.
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>>158984972
t. Malakal
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In case anyone was curious about the Latus 3 ghost situation.
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>>158985846
Hi, i'm Ulm, the guy too busy fighting back a Mictlan who refuses peace - or diplo of any kind really - to do anything to Lemuria. Blame Mictlan for this.
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Holy shit Lord Wardens of Man are thuggable as fuck
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>>158986251
How? Why?
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>>158986180
I blame mictlan for most things
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>>158986751
Stealthy, naturally high prot and HP, above average almost everywhere else. Slap a vine shield, ring of regen and amulet of resilience on them and you've got a pretty fucking good PD raider
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>>158987243
With n9, all they want is a vine shield and a brand
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>>158987243
>30 gems for a thug with no defense against crits
Yeah, naw, that's trash.
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>>158987448
And a capturn. Can't forget the capturn.
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>>158987243
What are you using to forge vine shields? Empowered tribals?
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>>158987760
>MA Man
>needing to empower indies for N forging
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>>158987150
same
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>>158987881
Sorry I thought you were talking about LA Man Lord Wardens, because MA has fucking Mothers of Avalon which are better in every way.
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>>158988025
never forget
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>all these turns already in
Gosh, guys, sorry to make you wait impatiently. Monthly report was due today, had to stay late writing the damn thing
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>>158988316
It's okay. Honestly my turns are only short because it's just me going 'PONIES EVERYWHERE' and panicking at how quickly i'm being boxed in because I will literally never learn how to expand well. Which is probably why i'm in a 'never actually won a game' game.
I hope we can be friends, fish.
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>>158988404
You've never won because you give up to easily, Kami. AIs don't win games.
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>>158987881
>MA Man
>Wardens that can't self-bless
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>>158988404
Shalom

Machaka's everywhere, he's making me panic too (although I thought he was Kailasa until I saw the capital, how embarrassing). If he starts a fight, let's kick his shit in together.
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What's with this "knowing players' steam names" meme?
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>>158989106
thank pankoman I don't border him, only tribless streetshitters
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>>158984556
New one.
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>>158989612
>coolstory still a senpai
for GOD'S SAKE BADMIN
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>>158989750
I'm not the admin, just the table maker, and don't even know if Coolstory actually wanted to join.
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>>158989106
>although I thought he was Kailasa until I saw the capital, how embarrassing
Wow, that's pretty racist dude.
But you have nothing to fear. I don't intend to push further underwater, I just wanted a bit of a water buffer zone because, no offense, you've got that whole slave thing going on and we're a little sensitive about that kind of thing.
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Still looking for the .map files for Desert worm, I received some from llamabeast but they were corrupted sadly. if no one has them I"ll just have to go with Orania
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Reminder that senpai-kouhai game has changed and is now Draft mode.

Also you join as either Senpai or Kouhai. Senpai will talk to Kouhais to decide which one will they pick up.


J O I N
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>>158990283
Well, you know how it goes. When you're the only water nation and some other guy is taking more water provinces than you are, you start worrying about existential threats.
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Aaaah, damn you. I don't care if I win, now all I care about is killing you, Hinnom.
Let's die together.
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>>158991006
Christ that was a fast turn.
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>>158991260
Who?
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>>158991369
Sorry, forgot my name.
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News:

The reddit community has apparently matured enough to propose an actual game, and it looks like it'll actually happen.Good for them, I guess.
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>>158991260
...oh, right. I, uh, probably should have changed that turn.
Fuck it i'll pretend i'm a genius and this was my evil plan all along. That's how diplomancy works right?
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>>158992078
Too late, big guy. I'll make you lose if it makes me lose.
Nobody betrays a squid.
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REMOVE SAHUAGIN
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Hey Machaka, which province is that Erf Snek planning to move into? I'd very obviously not want to bump into an erf snek with anything I actually want to live.
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>>158993592
you should be able to beat a erf snek by this point in the game
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>>158994760
Only things I have that might bump it this turn are Pale Ones and, like, some chariots. Who entirely rely on trampling to kill things as far as I understand them. Neither of these are things that will bump an erf snek and live to tell the tale.

Also the 'i am a scrub' thing is quite serious, I have no fucking idea what i'm doing mostly. Also holy shit these zero crosspaths are looking painful.
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Idolmaster Dominions 4
I shit you not
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24995782
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Good evening gentlemen, time is a warped presence you see, and now you must seek the corpse parts disguised as thrones if you wish to achieve true god hood. Dear you seize: The True man's World?

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Steel_Domg_Run
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>>158995562
I don't read niptongue. Is it a kind of LP or something?
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>>158996418
Basically a weird and suprisingly popular LP series involving an idolmaster mod of Dominions
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>>158996183
goddamn, how is helheim always taken now
I liked it before it was cool
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>>158995562
wwwwwwwww
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>>158995562
where do we get this mod?
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>>158996183
Atlantis reporting in with an innovative strategy.
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>>158993592
You're good to take that barb province. I don't intend to expand further south from where I'm currently at
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How well does a Solar Eagle expand against EA indies?
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>>158995562
>idols in a tank pretender
I'm sold
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>>158995562
Is dominions actually popular in nipland?
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It's a freespawn idol cancer nation. Adorable.
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>>158929831
Also, you can't Raid from a province you don't own. Your guys just attack the province they are in instead. Which might answer your actual question, I dunno.
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>>158965103
Here's a guide : http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=3043

Short story: it's not worth doing unless you have Chaos Power or need to shut down some forts and have flying raiders. It's a cute trick if you have fliers and give them Implementor Axes but probably not worth doing.
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>>158998443
Thanks Machaka!
Also, I just discovered Hinnom's fort pricing. Sweet pankoman I hate these giants.
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Also, since fish are angry now, I should probably post their bless. They have quite a lot of it.
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>>159002087
Why didn't she retreat btw? She was scripted to twist fate and then run. The idea was to take the province if it didn't have any PD, since the scout report said zero units.
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>>159002281
Unsure honestly. She did twist fate, but then she blessed and started spamming Star Fires. I guess it might just be that stupid thing where low enough enemy count makes the unit not feel like following scripting? Otherwise, no idea.
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>>159002087
Dont worry about me Hinnom, just getting my cap ring.
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>>159002087
>>159002281
F4A4E4N4W4S4D4?
Why?
And if you're going to go that far why not complete the meme and get B4 too.
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>>159002281
>>159002408
The ignore script thing only has to do with gem use. Retreat orders are always followed. She must have been set to cast spells.
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>>159002408
Oh well, better luck next time. I'll just go back into the sea and try round two against the amber clans that wrecked my expansion.
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>>159002478
Oh, that's cool.

>>159002554
Commiserations. Since I legit forgot that i'd originally made that turn 'bwahaha murder fish', I can send you some shekels as reparation since i'm apparently jew-giants. Or at least my FUCKING FORT BUILDERS ARE JEWS WITH THOSE PRICES.
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>>159002483
Gotta catch 'em all. I figured if I somehow lived long enough for him to wake up, I'd empower him into blood.

>>159002641
Unless you're paying the 800 gold cost of that fort you canceled, it's war to the death!
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>>159002801
O-oh. That's quite a bit of gold. I don't think I can afford that much given how painful my gold costs already are.
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>>158999462
Is it popular among anglos? It's the same sort of thing over there.
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>>158993567
What did they do?
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>>158995562
This is amazing.

>>158997076
Looks like he has a bunch of mods here:
http://ux.getuploader.com/DGyaman/

Also lewd elves
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>>159002495
idk
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>>159003221
Check the turn in your sent folder
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Reminder that any UW nation that claims it have rights over land provinces in it's cap ring should be contained to the pond immediately
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>>159003389
Sure, if you immediately forfeit all your pond territory to me and pay apology juice, Hinnomchaka
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>>159003389
Reminder that any land nation that claims to have rights to UW provinces in its cap ring should be kicked off land immediately.
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Also, really liking this turn pace. Let's get one more in tonight
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>>158959086

Make a generic copy of it, essentially. the old spell will still be there and probably listed twice for the nations it was restricted to, but should work fine.
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Squids not so tough after having his arcane nexus overcasted
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>>159005063
>Squids not so tough after having his arcane nexus overcasted
>>by Lemuria
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>>158999064

Not particularly well.
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This kills the monolith
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>>159006662
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dominions fan art from a famed manga artist
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>>159003205
Holy fuck, those are bad. It's like they purposely fucked up every single word, to say nothing of how poorly balanced the nation is. Reinvigoration 5 on all units? Recruitable H4s? The allure of ass is significant, but not enough to overcome the flaws inherent in that nation.
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>>159007387
What manga did he do?
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>>159008135
I can't pick my way thought the moonspeak to download it, can you rehost it with dropbox or something so I can jerk I mean laugh at it?
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>>159010319
Click where it says Dominions4MOD.
Click this button.
Click "download now" if the download doesn't automatically start.
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Is Atlantis the hardest to kill nation? They not only managed to survive R'lyeh wrecking their shit and become stronger, but a faction of them also managed to take over mictlan.
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>>159011313
>endlessly adaptable

Also, according to the lore, they just about conquered Oceania in EA when a literal spaceship blew up the ocean and messed everything up.
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>>159011313
As far as I can tell, the main strength of the Atlanteans is their adaptability. They've adapted to the abyss, to the caves, Mictlan, and have even devised some measures to combat the insanity of R'Lyeh.
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>>159011453
To be fair conquering Oceania isnt a huge feat.
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>>159008336
Not exactly a manga artist but he still thinks japanese stuff is pretty cool.
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Anon casts Life after Death.
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>>159017054
Looks like it bounced.
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>>159017786
Battlefield enchants can't bounce, silly.
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>>158999462
>Is dominions actually popular in nipland?

They have a wiki that is literally better than ours in every single way.

http://wikiwiki.jp/dominions4/

Every single item, every single spell, every single magic school and nation is described there.
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>>159019979

Mostly because we HAD a wiki like that, and then it vanished into the void, three or four years ago. The new one never really took off.
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>>159020550
Hmm I wonder who's going to keep being ahead while everyone around refuses to gang up on him and let him win?
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>>159020550
>>159020947
I'm glad I saved the pearls that I would have spent doing fresh Arcane Knowledges.

I am the strongest!

If it makes you feel better, I haven't gotten blood the way Fomoria has with his vamp lords and so on. I'll get there eventually, though!
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>>158985846
So nobody will do shit and Lemuria will win again, great. I hope Dom5 does away with PBEMs, they make everyone passive as fuck.
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>>159021541
Also, the last several turns of this game has basically been defined by people just sitting around and spamming out cool new ME stuff rather than just going hard into war. The only exception is Arco, I suppose, who is actually making gaubs in the war vs Lanka (unlike the giants, which are having serious difficulty taking ground).

I've been making a pile of summons in my one cap circle land province just to have them. I've also made some cool elites that I have to try out.
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>>158985846
Nice map.
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Riley BTFO.
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>>159003758
sorry bros, was 4AM and I really needed to have my beauty sleep
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>Degeneracy is waiting for Ulm again
>>
You won't kill this thread, goddamn skeletons.
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>>159021697
It's not the PBEMs, it's the absolute drag of any big war. Scripting needs to be reworked completely, rather than removing PBEM.
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>>159024854
all we need is a battle screen where we can select move mages and squads with less than 5 mouse clicks, and possibly move mages in group with drag-boxes.
better way to filter commanders in the formation screens would be helpful too.

i would also love a smart copy action button that tries to apply as many changes done to the last commander unit to the currently selected one ( example: copies script, remove/add items with the same name, copies map movement/order, copies battleground position, attempt to assign unassign and make squads from the same units from the garrison and move them in the same position relatively to the commander position).

random magic paths are another issue: scripting TC mages is suffering, we need ordering by magical paths.
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>>159026121
>random magic paths are another issue: scripting TC mages is suffering, we need ordering by magical paths
>we need ordering by magical paths

Just select all the guys with the same magic paths on the main screen, copypaste the script you want on the highlighted ones, repeat.
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>>159026121
This >>159026424

There's even a hotkey for it: shift+alt click selects all mages with the same random as the mage you click on.
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>>159026495
Fickety-yuck, I forgot in include a mention about the hotkey. Well spotted.
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Just abstract the scripting. Let me designate a group of mages, assign gems, tell them to cast x of these spells, evospam, communion up and cast this big spells, etc. Let the game calculate the most efficient way of doing so for the given magegroup.

Otherwise it doesn't really matter, ferrying around 50 mages and scripting them is always going to be a pain.
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>>159026949
Wouldn't that require the spellcasting AI to be somewhat competent?
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>>158989208
If you know someone's steam name you know his true intentions and how good he is, plus how open to diplomacy is he. If you know the steam name of someone you basically have power over him, that's why you have to hide your own username.
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>>159028548
Yes.
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public service announcement
http://steamcommunity.com/app/259060/discussions/1/312265256995680291/
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>>159030716
No, join this disciple mentoring game instead:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/312265672107250359/?tscn=1477952330
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>>159030762
why not both?
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>The LlamaServer seems to be having difficulty reaching its mail server at the moment. Fear not. Games won't host until it is fixed.
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When does this shit usually go on sale? I want to buy it but not for 30 bucks.
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>>159031824
I just sent a turn and it showed up within a minute
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>>159033274
It goes on sale quiet often, maybe they'll have a sale during Christmas or something.
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Uh, everything okay in 55 Machaka?
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>>159033286
welp it can't process new turns
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>>159033286
>>159034142
So it's okay to send but it just won't go to the next turn?
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Which nation, any age, has the shittiest sacreds?
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>>158996183
>not LA
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>>159038693
I'd say MA Pythium's Vestals.
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>>159038693
EA Caelum is pretty damn shitty. Airya Temple Guards aren't usable because MM1 troops don't exactly synergize with fliers and Kavi Archers are awful (20g shortbows while you have 16g non-sacreds with magical bows), and archers are also not synergetic with your tactics.
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>>159038997
At least they have some decent fighting capability and can be massed.
EA Atlantis's cap only sacreds can barely move from all that encumbrance.
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>>159039675
I think they are just meant to sit in forts and defend them.
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>>159039675
EA Atlantis's sacreds are actually okay in vanilla and pretty good in summod. They certainly can't be massed, but do tank well and hit hard. I think vestals take the cake. >>159039314 is right about Temple Guards being useless for Caelum, but you can contrive a situation where they'd be useful (a duel vs niefel where you can take a big bless for them, maybe) whereas vestals cannot be made good without making your nation bad.
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>>159043134
I have tried tribless vestals in SP and it only pushes then into "standard sacred" tier. So yeah, they are awful.
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Gibodai are pretty awful purely as sacreds. Being 50 gold Mindblasters they don't really benefit from any of the bless effects and still pay extra for being sacred.

Being aquatic means they become useless once you are moving onto land, too.
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>>159045569
W9 :3c
And didn't S9 give +2 magic penetration?
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>>159045764
Sure but has there ever been a game that was decided through UW battles?
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How useful is Polymorph as a spell?
Also, is the battle simulator in the pastebin broken or something?
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>>159045764

I'm pretty sure no. Having S as a caster might, but it's not a bless effect.
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>>159047545
Range is a major limitation but it scales really well so, if the deployment allows it and you have high N with penetration boosters, it seems really good against elite units.
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>>159047761
>>159045764

what. no, it doesn't. the bless gives +x magic resistance. s9 gives you twist fate.

magic resistance is different from magic penetration.

you know this, domg. i need to know that you know this.
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>>159047761
It was ironic, you qtboy.
However i have asked mod makers to do that several times, so S9 became a good amge bless, maybe with E4 or E6.
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>>159047958
Are you a newbie? Or cirno?
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>>159047958

Yes that is what I just said. Well done.

I'm not sure about the passive path level effect. You know, like how N grants poison res, supply, and +50% maxage per level.
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>>159048385
The only passive effect of astral is magical being leadership.

You do get additional penetration for casting a spell well below your level, IIRC +1 per two levels above the required level, but that's universal to all paths.
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>>159048023
Having an S9 pretender is a lot more useful than having a F9 one, though.
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>>159049505
It depends.
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>>159049505

Pricey though. 6 on anything with both a head and two misc slots is generally sufficient.
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>Next thread won't have the halloween theme
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>>159051969
Our threads are always skeleton related.
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>>159043134
Thing is Pillars also have a hilarious 8 mr and 10 atk/4 def
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>>159043134
Flaggs are pretty shit for Mari. Upside to Vestals is they're dirt cheap with okay combat stats.
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