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NEWS
>P5 Translations: http://p5anon.imgur.com/
>Trophies https://imgur.com/a/AwlYV
>Full Soundtrack https://mega.nz/#!SkhyDCDb!qlwAxLlyc1dNkBek3cJtT12Hf_oBXOaIm71Y9Vompy0I
>Locations/Dungeons/Misc https://imgur.com/a/FEkpW
>Voice files: https://mega.nz/#!qcsmTQBR!eDpNzWytu6JQ1BYBoO79dhboXzdbZgz3T95jKlXX5U4
>Portraits https://mega.nz/#!R0EzxIyb!WRA_4wI_4nOuZzrjbTeW8mo9LdfFn5Cx4y0HzYS8MG4
>Other Images https://mega.nz/#!VlF1VAyA!KSzFsKg2r3Q_Drv6fSjP5kl-SuRUI_bAHzs8z_IjzWU
>The Soundtrack can be found at http://domi-persona.tumblr.com/post/150303511502/p5-ost-unzip-pw-sharebymamoru-updated
>P5A: the Day Breakers is out and subbed on Nyaa
>P3: Winter of Rebirth BD rips are out on Nyaa
>Persona 5 released in Japan; February 14th in North America and Europe + PAL regions
>Take Your Heart and Steelbook Editions for NA up for pre-orders at Gamestop and Amazon
>20th Anniversary FES to take place at 3331 Arts Chiyoda in December 2016
>P5's English Cast http://personacentral.com/persona-5-voice-cast-revealed-protagonist-trailer/

SCANS
archive.is/U8Ka0
archive.is/FaYLc

INFO
>P5 Info
pastebin.com/MJuR9h0S
GUIDES
>General Guide
pastebin.com/eCHRjKCZ
>PQ Guide
pastebin.com/Bq16HvJh
>P4U2 Guide/Resources
pastebin.com/M3MPepKb

DOWNLOADS
>Art, Guides, Music, etc.
pastebin.com/Vh0CdRit
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona image collection
mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua
>P5: The Aesthetics Artbook
https://mega.nz/#!BBR2BYoQ!zRI40J_hA7QzqnuUX_zcHbd7Uf36Me5sngLBFzwPEQY

MANGA
>Scans
personascans.tumblr.com
mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457
pastebin.com/L3WXvsf3
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Post Ryuji/Anne
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_ae a best
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Cute NEET
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>check the twitter thing
>saw wodsum and haru

lel
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>>158638603
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>>158638603
I honestly think plague doctor mask would have been great as Goro's PT mask but a red mosquito mask definitely fits him more.
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>>158639693
If only the color was black rather than red.
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More canon than the girls
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>tfw you realize that Ken and Goro are the same age now.
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>>158639693
I kinda liked the theory he would wear a Plague mask as a way to show he treats injustice like a disease and would do his best to eradicate it.
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>>158640204

So is Joker exclusively top or do he and Goro switch roles occasionally?
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NEKO
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>>158638692
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>>158640348
Sometimes Goro is on top.

but he is still the one taking it. There is no way Goro can do the giving
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>>158640539

So is Joker better as a top or power bottom?
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>>158640248
the moral is that goro needed a group of misfits and a doggo to bond with as a kid
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>>158640582
Top with Goro or Ryuji. Power bottom if you like him with Iwai or something. Yusuke is too autistic to ship.
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>tfw Yusuke is the most popular P5
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Is Joker the best protagonist with Piercy as a close second?
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>Scanbro, are you there? Was there a new P3 chapter last month?
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>>158638707
S
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Were there any new Fool Personas added? Aside from Arsene and Satanael?
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>>158641070
Because he's best boy
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>Anne is sweaty!
>Anne is buxom!
>Anne is beautiful!
>Anne is wet!
>Anne is cute!
>Anne is flexible!
>Anne is an angel!
>Anne is lewd!
>Anne is sad!
>Anne is silly!
>Anne is stylish!
>Anne is for sexual!
>Anne is awesome!
>Anne is sultry!
>Anne is pure!
>Anne is amused!
>Anne is quality!
>Anne is Lovers!
>Anne is canon!
>Anne is an actress!
>Anne is a model!
>Anne is best girl!
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What the fuck yusuke
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>>158646328

>Anne is in ma bed
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>>158646328

F O R

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R Y U J I

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>>158647025
Translator anon if you please
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>>158647025
I dont know why but Goro going nuclear is always funny to me

I'm still mad over that one anon who claimed there was a scene where Morgana angrily scratched Goro who did his very best to not go nuclear to not blow his cover but it never happened
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>>158646328
Why does the dub reminds me of Yukari?
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>P3 has Aigis and Metis
>P4 has Labrys

Where's muh toaster waifu in P5?
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updated neko

http://imgur.com/a/Q49sr
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What are the exact details of the bad ending? I know that the protagonist makes a deal with Yaldabaoth, but that's it.
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The PT agreeing on gangraping Goro!
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>>158649294
IIRC
>Yalda : hey kid wanna see the bad end
>picks yes
>the PT disappear because people stopper believing in them
>Later Joker is seen in Shibuya
>Giant TV says the police deeply apologizes for the police brutality that Joker had to endure
>in reality Joker stole their hearts, forcing them to confess that against their will
>that screencap takes place when the police confesses
>there was something about Joker becoming Goro 2 (as in he creates trouble and solves them himself to get recognition) but I'm not sure about the details

This is all I heard on /pg/, of course some of these could be bullshit for all I know. Nobody got a video of this bad end so it's hard to tell exactly what happened.
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How do you mentally break Goro?
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Post sensei
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>>158650484

>Someone's getting an A on their oral exam!
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>>158649000
Thank you, neko anon. Morgana is a blessing. I wonder if P-team is full of cat lovers
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>>158650482
>Those jpg artifacts
Jesus
To mentally break Goro just tell him he's useless and that all his work is for nothing
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>>158630669

glad there will be one more person who has played the game on /pg/.
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>>158650528
His head is too far away.
Futanari?
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>>158649585
Translation?
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>>158648517
I can create the OC for you. Do you want it?
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>>158650674
>PT: We'll be taking that expression (treasure)!
>Joker: I'll expose your other expressions too!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNFH-XcDzLo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NDq38TWglc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGJ7nlVgxD8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiGNJoSO7kI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLVtimjNnGc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm8Mt80AReI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwVgohglBQI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYKVGtpY7oI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrmZHfQdp1k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngkdSFDz-Vg


really need the shadow ops costume but 800 yen is too much
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>>158650660
In the pic he's not actually eating her out. Instead he's just fingering her.
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>>158650482
Pretty sure what happened with fake Goro telling real Goro that Shidou planned to kill him could be considered mindbreak
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>>158651854
Akechi is made to be complete opposites with the protag, while protag is shadow, Akechi is light. But in the end on whose side is justice? ドドド Soejima used the same concept for the cover illustration as well, where Akechi's pose is the opposite of the protag's pose.
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>>158651485
Yeah, i'm pretty sure it's an example of non-sexual mindbreak
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>>158652052
Something seems off.
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>>158652091
>Soejima used the same concept for the cover illustration as well, where Akechi's pose is the opposite of the protag's pose.
Huh
Thanks!
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What would it be like if The Phantom Thieves went skinny dipping?
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>>158652091
>>158652312
Oopsie, missed the last sentence.

>he's also facing the other way
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>>158646278

No it's because of Sugita. He equals instant popularity regardless of how good or bad the character actually is, with the sole exception of Sirius in Aquarion.
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>>158652091
>>158652405
thanks for the translation anon. but he's not REALLY facing the other way is he Soejima-san. if he was he'd be looking towards the back of the cover towards arsene. in the cover he's more like anne's opposite.
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>>158652752
Yeah, I feel as if I wouldn't like him as much if Sugita wasn't voicing him.
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>>158652797
Are there other illustrations that include Akechi? I guess the point is that he's facing any other way but Joker's.
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>>158652797
>no "Only on Playstation" on the US cover

Switch or maybe PC confirmed?
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>>158652752
Good thing he's actually best boy on top of being voiced by Sugita then.
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>>158652752
You're kinda right. I like Yusuke's character a lot but Sugita instantly makes him better. I don't think I'd like Yusuke as much if he had a generic fuccboi voice instead of his deep one.
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>>158650818
Can you? Thanks.
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Does P5 surpass P4 and if so in what ways?
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>>158654038
Better boys.
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>Yoshida: News about the Phantom Thieves has been airing frequently, but...
>Yoshida: I've been thinking "for what reason would you?" Do you intend to just give up halfway through?

>I'm fine.

>Yoshida: As expected, you were safe. That's a relief.
>Yoshida: I don't mean that I depend on you, but rather that I expected as much from the Phantom Thieves' efforts.
>Yoshida: If there is anything troubling you, please call on me anytime, my comrade.

I like how most of the post-suicide announcement SNS you get start off with the other person going all "are you okay?!" and then there's Yoshida who straight-up didn't buy into that claim. The word he uses for "comrade" could be read as "kindred soul" too, by the way.

Question for you guys: I'm probably going to hold off on finishing this file until the 31st just in case we do get news, but in the meantime, are people here still interested in the deadline game over for Shidou's palace? I could probably get that one today if there's interest.
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>>158654038
every way.
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>>158654038
Cringe dub
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>>158655839
>the deadline game over for Shidou's palace
didn't another anon already cover that (tho not in depth). someone mentioned that if you fight goro but miss the cruise line deadline, goro still shows up to arrest you.
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Are there any harry potter houses fanarts yet?

Potter and Goro would both be slytherin i think
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>>158655975
Yeah, someone did. I was going to try to get images of it along with possibly doing a translation if the dialogue feels notable enough (which it'll probably be, since we know that it's at least not as generic as the Okumura Palace game over).

Someone also wanted a reconfirmation of whether that game over really does stay the same even after Goro's boss fight, but that might take a bit longer since I'm putting that fight off for now.
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>>158656091
Go back to tumblr.
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>>158653801
Here you go :

>Name: Harpe
>Arcana: Unknown
>Age : 3 (since first activation)
>Codename : Eve
>Initial Persona: Hadaly
>Ultimate Persona: Talos
>Melee Weapon: Shield Pile Bunker
>Ranged Weapon: Rocket Gauntlet
>Mask: Onyx Visor
>Heist Costume: Dark Olive Mechanical body armor
>Glove color: Olive
>Persona's main abilities: Phys (Physical) skills.
>Occupation : Anti-Shadow Suppression Weapon
>Japanese VA : Eri Kitamura
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>>158656091
Yusuke would certainly be Ravenclaw, he's legit as much of an autist as the qt ravenclaw girl.
Makoto probably would be there too because seitokaichou
Haru is most definitely Hufflepuff and Ryuuji a Gryffindor

the rest i don't know though,
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>>158649000
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ONE
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>>158656908
Warm fluffy neko on cold skin is the best feeling
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>>158656908
Why is Morgana so perfect?
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>>158657482
Because he's literally me.
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>>158653019
There's this one.
But maybe Soejima is talking about some art that haven't been released officially yet. We'll just have to wait.
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>>158658181
he's probably talking about P5-2's cover art.
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>>158658181
He specifically mentions the packaging, so it's either the regular cover (doesn't quite fit his statement) or the LE (which kind of seems to fit?).
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>>158658634
>Goro and Haru glance at each other

What's the meaning of this?
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>>158658984
It means it's canon, obviously
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>>158658634
Nah, Soejima says that in addition to the packaging, so it's not just package illustration.

Another note, Potter and Goro's bangs point in opposite directions.
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>>158659237
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>>158659352
Might be deeper than you think.pic related
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Reminder to vote in the survey of that pes competition we are in with other /vg/ generals.--https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSczDfNZjRt9Fh1kseE1Ag4aKOUOBKxS1yHU6Oa3mOobp1W05w/viewform
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Is "Igor is evil" a big spoiler? will it ruin the game for me :^(?
kill me
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>>158652752

curious seiyuu casual here. i mean, i like yusuke and his voice, but what is it about sugita in particular that makes his characters more well-liked? do you have other examples of side characters he's voiced that have garnered instant popularity?

also, i think there's something about autistic but honorable blue-coded boys in anime. i noticed they tend to get pretty popular.
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>>158660534
Goro dies and is the traitor
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Before her I was only into pale girls.
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>>158660678
Sugita is popular due to his own antics and his role as Gintoki from Gintama. He usually voices weird characters so it's not out of place for him to voice Yusuke. In fact, I believe the seiyuu for the main characters in P5 were all hand picked to suit their characters, Hoshi mentioned something like that during the TGS event.
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>>158661648
>In fact, I believe the seiyuu for the main characters in P5 were all hand picked to suit their characters
Just like the dub, then
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>>158661727
You can't compare the voice actor repertoire in Japan and in he States, anon.
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>>158659613
Haru is cute! Makoto is dumb!
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>>158661648

They do feel very typecast. I'm most familiar with Fukuyama Jun and it's pretty obvious they wanted a Zero/Lelouch dichotomy where he has a cocky vibe with a flair for dramatics combined with a more "docile" student alter-ego.
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Showing your hard and throbbing Mara for your senpais to lick!
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>>158662047
Yeah Persona cast do seem to be typecast a lot, but fans also find them fitting so it's not a problem for them.
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Not enough time to do a full translation for these scenes right now, but I figured these at least warrant summaries.

As you go through Shidou's palace, you have to get letters of introduction from certain elite guests on the ship. These all turn out to be people related to the behind-the-scenes conspiracy, with the first one being an influential politician.

When Makoto talks to him, he eventually reveals that in exchange for pledging allegiance to Shidou, they're rewarded with an offer to request someone's shellification. This guy requested that the driver of the train that got into an accident in spring (shown in an anime cutscene back then) should be targeted, in order to deal with the current minister of diplomatic relations as well as the the director of the current governing party.
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>>158662542

>When Makoto talks to him, he eventually reveals that in exchange for pledging allegiance to Shidou, they're rewarded with an offer to request someone's shellification.

whoa, that's the guy they sent goro to turn into a shell, right? damn.
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>>158662542
they're also at the buffet you go to after beating Kamoshida, which explains Shidou's presence there too I guess
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>>158662542
Yeah I remember those invitations on the ship. Basically after the betrayal, the game makes a pointed effort to tell you that even though Goro killed people, he was doing all the dirty work for these scumbags.
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>>158661648

They were all probably deiberately cast because they've all played antiheroes in the past.

And Yusuke was pretty clearly custom made for Sugita since he'd wanted a Persona role for the longest time.

Hoshi meanwhile was likely cast because after Gundam Seed he's popular as polite guys who are secretly assholes.
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>>158656091
Joker: Slytherin
Morgana: Gryffindor
Ryuji: Gryffindor
Anne: Hufflepuff
Yusuke: Ravenclaw
Makoto: Ravenclaw/Gryffindor (she's similar to Hermione and McGonagall)
Futaba: Ravenclaw
Haru: Hufflepuff
Goro: Slytherin

(this is really silly but whatever)
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>>158663041

Well some of it was also his own doing, to create cases from to solve.

Goro's not exactly totally innocent.
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>>158663041
So basically all killings Goro did were on request right? Not just Shidou but his goons.
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>>158663173
Hoshi has a pretty wide range of characters throughout his career, but I feel Goro does have that nice fuccboi Hoshi vibe to him that instantly clicks into place once his VA is announced, but maybe that's just me. Hoshi does do a good batshit voice too, which is a bonus.
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>>158663041
So he's not just a murderer but a hired assassin
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>>158662756
I don't believe we see this guy bite it on-screen during the game (only the train driver, the Shujin principal, Okumura and the special investigations department chief), but I wouldn't be surprised if he was a future target due to knowing too much.

>>158663026
Huh, I forgot about that. Thanks for pointing that out, anon.

>>158663041
Yeah, the game really tries to hammer home that he pretty much just served as a tool for Shidou and his allies during this part. I don't think it's been talked about much (or even at all) here yet, though.

>>158662542
After you deal with him, the game cuts to Shidou talking to the real-world counterpart of that politician on the phone, where they basically discuss post-election plans. Shidou asks Mr. Politician to continue to back him even more, to get enough money to compete with the rest of the world, and he responds that as long as he's rewarded with "cleanup" requests, he'll make sufficient arrangements. Then he mentions Shidou helping him during that incident in spring again, Shidou says that with more thorough analysis of the cognitive research they'll be able to expand their potential targets, and the politician says that's a godsent and he'll be counting on Shidou's assistance from now on.

The game pauses and pans away to show Shidou grinning before the scene cuts away, though. This guy's probably just yet another expendable wallet to him.
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>>158663419
>>158663447
Nobody thinks Goro is completely innocent. The game just makes an effort to explain that he was working for people way worse.
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>>158663960
>I don't think it's been talked about much (or even at all) here yet, though
It has been
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Phantom is from Sumaru City!
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>>58663447
Correct. Aside from the first incident where he bailed Shidou out of his scandal, it's pretty safe to assume everything else was ordered by Shidou.

>>158663804
More or less, though it's extremely questionable how much say he had in the actions Shidou ordered, since the game also makes it a point to emphasize that Shidou can and WILL have people killed for going against him and his orders once it's revealed that he's behind everything.

Next scene in a bit, these take a while to compile.
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>>158655839
Please cover the game over after Goro's death. I still have a hard time Atlus could make such a mistake. A video even shit quality would be golden too, but I guess a picture is good enough
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>>158655839
Yes please, I can't believe Atlus would make such a big mistake.
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Which Persona girl would be more likely to go out with the typical /pg/ poster?
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>>158662542
Man, is there ANYONE who did not use Goro as their grunt doing the dirty work, their boy toy, or fool him?

At least Goro's crimes were never personal, though I wonder if he didnt feel a bit gleeful about killing Joker since he was jealous of him and all
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>>158665081
I'll definitely get pictures when I get far enough, at least. No promises on a video, but I'll see what I can do.

>>158665307
There's only a pretty small window after Goro's boss fight where you can hold off on sending the notice, since it's at the very end of the dungeon but before sending the notice. They probably just forgot to add an extra flag for changing the deadline game over if you're past that point.

>>158662542
Second guy's a former noble celeb (and acts like your typical mob guy, as it takes the girls switching into swimsuits and Anne pretending to be half British royalty for him to cooperate, at which point he starts trying to goad her into an intimate relationship with him and to come to his room in her swimsuit and such).

Because things are different from the past, this guy's been having financial troubles, since it's hard to earn money just off of your parentage. In exchange for introducing him to other trustworthy ex-nobles, Shidou let him request a target for shellification too. He doesn't say who his target was, but he explains that Shidou's extremely careful about picking his guests/clients, which Makoto interprets as him screening for which people would earn him an advantage but not betray him.
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>>158652938
Got more of these?
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>>158640904
open your eyes anon, the autism is half the appeal
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>>158667650
Speaking of autism, have there been other characters referenced in the TV?

So far we have Katsuya, Akihiko, Chie, Yukiko, Yukari, and Adachi.
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Sound logic there, Potter.
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>>158652797
That's the highest resolution version I've seen of the cover art and I'm just now noticing that Joker, Yusuke and Makoto all have a different skintone when you compare their hands and face.
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Why is /pg/ so fucking gay for Goro?

He's not even that good of a character
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>>158667095
Sae's the closest there is, unless I'm forgetting something.

I wouldn't be surprised if he did (although it definitely didn't stick, since he starts acting kind of... off about the PT situation in general a bit after that), but that's probably tied to more factors than just his jealousy (getting to deal with the SID chief as well, Shidou's plan being a way to pin the berserk- and shellification incidents on the PT, that whole situation basically amounting to dealing with the one known threat to his revenge plan against Shidou, etc).

>>158667747
Naoto gets namedropped as "the former Detective Prince" in a TV show on 4/29 about the new Detective Prince, but that's the only other one I know of.

>>158667117
The game cuts to Shidou and the ex-noble talking on the phone in the real world afterward. Shidou asks him if he's hiding anything, and he affirms that reported everything. Shidou presses more about a couple details (business conditions and getting the best possible backup), but the ex-noble just confirms it all and says it's out of gratitude for Shidou's help, and that he'll keep using his old connections to support him once he's prime minister. Shidou warns him that if it seems like he's cutting corners, he'll have to retire him, and the ex-noble says he understands and apologizes as he doesn't wish to experience the same thing as the others who had to be removed so far.
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>>158668891
>Naoto gets namedropped as "the former Detective Prince" in a TV show on 4/29 about the new Detective Prince, but that's the only other one I know of.

Shit, where is my Nanjo reference? Every game has to have one.
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>>158668890
You keep telling yourself that.
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>>158638603
What a kickass picture
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>>158668890
You wouldn't a Whoro?
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>>158669548

no cause I'm not a fag
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>>158668890
He isn't a good character at all, it's just fujoshits. Just ignore them. They're not leaving as you can tell.
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>>158669589
Could have fooled me.
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>>158669548
Literally made for pleasing old men
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>>158670976
wtf are those tears
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>>158670468
>I don't like this character
>not a good character
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>>158652797
Idk about everyone else but I like Haru's shade of hair and skin here compared to in-game
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How did she get into this situation?
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Looks like someone posted all the mementos dialogue on twitter
https://twitter.com/mcsk_g/status/791944821183123456
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watermelon head
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>>158668891
The third guest's the TV station's director. Haru deals with him, and he mostly sums up the situation with her father (and that he was used to set up the PT), says he could've lived if he'd just obediently kept quiet, brags about the fact his station broadcast the moment of his shellification and how the views were ultra-high because of that. When Haru tells him to stop speaking of someone's parent's death that way, he just affirms that that's his business and mockingly offers to do a documentary about her surmounting her father's death and revitalizing the family company while noting that since she's cute, it'd probably lead to a lot of views.

The more interesting part is after dealing with him. Since he's part of the media, Haru tells the director to tell them what he knows, and he brings up Kaneshiro. Apparently, Kaneshiro brought the money he gathered to Shidou. Both he and Madarame provided Shidou with financial support as kickback, in Madarame's case through his forgery business. So on top of offering shellification requests for people supporting him, Shidou backed Madarame and Kaneshiro in exchange for financial aid too.

No phone conversation after this one, instead it cuts to the talkshow with Goro's monologue. Will be skipping that for now since it's been brought up before, IIRC.
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>>158673058
Since Privatter requires a twitter account, here's the document for those without one
https://a.pomf.cat/awvdum.txt
will require you to download if it displays as gibberish in your browser
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>>158661648
>I believe the seiyuu for the main characters in P5 were all hand picked to suit their characters
This is just how casting should work, this shouldn't be anything special.
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>tfw I look exactly like Sae

love it
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>>158668891
Speaking of Sae, wasnt there a point in the game where she harshly yells at Goro because she believes Goro stole info from her computer? (It was actually Makoto)
IIRC he even says at Leblanc he felt sad about it, but not sure if this really happens or even if he is genuine when he expresses sadness about being yelled at by Sae.
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I want Sae to sit on my face.
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>>158674462
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>>158674462
Imagine her musky ass after a long summer day of work.
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why doesnt someone translate the valentine's day scene when you cheat on the girls so i can think of how happy futaba will be when she's not all sad in that scenario
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>>158674623
DOUNANO?!
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>>158674734
That was done awhile ago, not sure if anyone saved it though
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this is a pair of NEETs
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>>158674431
Yeah, that happens. It's on 10/11 after the broadcast for Okumura's death, and she suspects Goro of having stolen data from her laptop because it happened the same day they got into a bit of an argument. He gets pretty upset about the accusation, both because she suspects him just for getting into an argument with him the same day, and because he pretty much takes her implying that a detective like him would get his information by stealing it as an attack on his pride.

He brings it up indirectly on 10/24 at Leblanc when Soujirou asks him how Sae's doing, by mentioning she hasn't been meeting with him lately and that her opinion of him seems different (with the sad portrait).

He also acts a bit dejected during one of the earlier Leblanc visits when he mentions that Sae scolded him and told him to watch what he says (this is around the time he's under fire for being against the PT, while they're at the height of their popularity).
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>>158675828
Dat subtle bulge.
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>>158668891
>>158673109
>>158675836
thanks for this, anons.
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Hi guys

What's up
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I wonder if P5 is actually really easy compared to 3/4 or I just got better at vidya
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>>158675836
G-Goro did n-nothing wrong!
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>>158673058
>>158673415
pretty unreadable using just google translate. anons who know moon can go at it though.
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>>158677154
/pg/ is dead go home
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>>158677154
We've hit rock bottom yet again.
Most already had their fun and moved on, we should too.
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>>158664071
It has been but it was more or less people saying "the game drills it into your head that Goro was working for people far worse than he is" without going into this much detail. It's always nice to have more info, so, thanks for this.
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>>158638603
>actually got twitter source by reverse googling
Wow
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>>158676757
>>158677434
You're welcome. Fourth (and last for now; there's a fifth guy but it's impossible to get to him and back without triggering the boss fight I'm holding off on for now) guy's encounter should be ready to post in a bit, it's a bit on the long side since this one covers Medjed stuff.

>>158677240
At least save that kind of shitposting for the scene it makes sense for, anon. You're blowing your load too early.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUi0L28WJyc

This is your Yusuke dub tonight.
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>>158678393
W-what scene?
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>>158678651
"Do you understand what it means to defy me?!"
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>>158679230
Shidou should have killed him, have Goro confront him and be killed.
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>>158679230
Man all of this shit just makes me all the more unsatisfied that Goro never got to confront Shidou personally. Maybe I'm missing some 2deep4u symbolism type deal that he passed on his mission to the PT, but, the game skirts around mentioning that Goro is dead at all.
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>>158675836
>for once Goro really did nothing wrong and got btfo yet again
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>>158680294
this dude suffers so much it's borderline comical
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>>158679709
The game never says outright he's dead even when they do say the principal/okumura is. On the justice co-op rank 10 it just says he "used his life to save the PT and disappeared beyond the wall", take from it what you will.

On another note, the PT actually do mention it's weird nobody talks about Goro anymore, but it's all chalked up to the distortion of the masses and how nobody seems to remember the PT either after Shidou's election. When I checked on 12/22 the two okama in Shinjuku still does mention Goro, saying PT was a rival of his. It seems like those two okama are the only people who actually remember PT and Goro, apart from the co-ops. In a way Goro's disappearance from the game IS addressed, albeit very briefly.
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>>158675836
What did they argue about?
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>>158680848
>only literally two fags remember Goro
it's like poetry
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>>158680848
"Used his life" seems to imply death
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>>158673109
The fourth one's an IT company's president. Futaba fields this one, and she eventually releas she's the original Medjed and proving it by revealing that she hacked the Medjed site back after her dungeon... which the IT guy recognizes as the site HIS company prepared that time.

Turns out his company was behind the fake Medjed group that declared war on the PT during summer and manipulated the rankings for who should be reformed next. They didn't have a particular reason for taking the "Medjed" alias specifically for that, they just needed a known name and that one happened to be convenient since the PT can't go after an anonymous group. When "Medjed" got taken down despite the sockpuppeting, both he and Goro were surprised, but things ultimately still worked out as planned since it led to the PT's premature joy at hitting the height of their popularity (allowing for the later setup with Okumura). He gloats about how thrilling it is to make use of the internet like that, but when he asks if Futaba enjoys manipulating the information illiterate as he does since she's Medjed too, she just counters by calling his skill and his general self third-rate and tells him not to group her with him because she's actually trying to reform the world with the PT.

After dealing with him, Futaba asks what other evil things he's done aside from the fake Medjed thing. He answers that they've investigated cognitive studies (what Wakaba was working on), and that once they'd extracted all of their findings, they had everything public deleted, encrypted what they had, and stored it as top secret data in a domain inaccessible to the general public. He affirms that he at least doesn't know anything about the shellification stuff. So this guy probably didn't get a request (at least as far as we know), but he WAS responsible for the Medjed incident in summer and by extension ensuring Okumura would be the next reformation target.
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>>158680962
It's implied just like how the whole scene implied he died. But the game never confirms he's dead.
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>>158679709
Shidou is obviously left alive so that Goro can confront him in the spin-offs duh
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>>158681067
Reveals, not releas. Whoops.

>>158680848
Huh, I didn't know the two onees still mention him. I'll keep an eye out for them once I continue.

That chat only shows up if you clear Shidou Palace early enough, right?
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>>158681067
>stored it as top secret data in a domain inaccessible to the general public.
interesting. I wonder if Futaba ends up going after the data to finish her mom's research in her S. Link, since I didn't have enough kindness in my playthrough to do it
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>>158681302
I cleared at the end of November so perhaps.

>>158681421
Futaba's co-op is all about her doing things to get over her social anxiety, and about her friend Kana who is being abused and exploited by her parents. She doesn't continue her mother's research or anything.
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>>158681421
Her co-op's more focused on finishing the 約束のノート her mother came up with to help her socialize, and on helping an old friend of hers. I haven't seen her rank 10 event yet, though.
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>>158679709

There really isn't any symbolism. It's mostly just for the sake that they were too lazy to make real Goro a party member for one fight with a new attitude and Persona and costume, but the story as it is can't work as it does if Goro is still around once Shido goes down, since it's important that Goro lose the game and be gone for Ialdaboth to make his move and also so Joker has to go to jail to get Shido convincted so they can show the system isn't totally useless and corrupt when it actually works and Joker is realized quickly and has his earlier charges dropped.

I guess they could have had you fight Goro directly before Shido and then Shido kill him but Goro had to go.
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>>158684192
>then Shido kill him
in a way that is what happened, shido's mental image of goro kills him.
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>>158684397

Yeah but that lacks Goro personally confronting Shido and letting him know just how he feels.
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>>158684192
But what's weird about it is that he even has lines for normal summoning Loki and most of his battle dialogue is more in-line with his real personality anyway, and they could just use his boss cut in for crits. It's just come down to a new AOA, but can you even get those in Shidou's fight? I'd be happy if they just had Goro be in Ryuji's place at the end of Shidou's palace but just ended up dead for real.
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What I would straight up KILL for, would be a 'Light the Fire Up in the Night' done in the acid jazz style of Persona 5's music.

Or at least some PQ-style art that isn't fucking garbo.
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>>158684705
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=59308100
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>>158684397
It's not the same, having Shidou himself say all those things would've been better imo.
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It's interesting that the corruption is so big that all these people are involved and even after Shido goes down they still attempt to keep their plans going so the group takes down Mementos to keep them from abusing the other world (although without Goro to access it for them what exactly could they do with it?)

Which means that after all is said and done, even if Mementos is gone and Iadaboth is defeated the conspiricy is still active isn't it?

Granted solving all the problems of the Japanese political system is probably something too big in scale for any one game. But still. The game really is left hanging.
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>>158685052
>the group takes down Mementos to keep them from abusing the other world
But that's wrong.
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>>158685052
>(although without Goro to access it for them what exactly could they do with it?
it was also about freeing the people from their complacency so they wouldn't be abused so easily
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>>158685039
>>158684494
in a way, shido not even having the balls to kill goro himself shows his personality too. like "you matter so little/I'm so busy that I'll just send a lackey to kill my lackey."

makes it easier to hate shido even more
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>>158681585
I should probably be done with the palace around the same time this run, so I'll keep an eye out for that chat.

>>158681067
After dealing with the IT guy, the game cuts to Goro talking to Shidou on the phone in Shibuya. This one gets a rushjob translation, since there's not much to summarize here.

>G: No matter what media, they all give "Prime Minister Shidou" their seal of approval. The national expectations seem to be rising more and more, as well.
>S: That I was able to make it this far is all thanks to you. This was, without doubt, a cooperation with a shared purpose.
>G: ...I'm honored.
>S: ...that said, I have one request, however.
>G: [?] What is it?
>S: There's still the customers for the shellification business, but...
>S: Shouldn't you deal with those guys that suspect you at once?
>G: [!] Now, with this kind of timing?
>S: That's right. The sooner, the better.
>G: Why so suddenly...? Is something the matter?
>S: No, nothing. It's just that, after something happens, it'd be too late, you understand.
>G: I understand getting nervous, but if you're not in a hurry, it would be best to wait until after the election...
>S: I'd like to clean up the trash entirely ahead of my inauguration as prime minister.
>S: For the sake of a perfect victory, any sprouts of unease must be nipped in the bud.
>G: "Unease," you've never said something like that until now... Shidou-san, um...

There's a pause as Shidou takes a deep breath.

>S: Do you understand what it means to defy me!?
>S: You should do as I say. I'm counting on you.

Shidou hangs up, and Goro stares silently at his phone for a moment.

>G: ...that's too sudden.

Another pause as he looks down for a moment.

>G: ...Don't tell me...

He's not going to get another scene until his boss fight in Shidou's palace.
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>>158685586
>He's not going to get another scene until his boss fight in Shidou's palace.
So? It makes perfect sense not to. He just worked out that Joker was likely still alive, so of course his next action is to go to the Palace and fight them.
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>>158685586
WHAT THE FUCK IS IN THE SUITCASE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>158685760
That's why I pointed that out, actually.

I do find it funny that the first thing he does after realizing what's going on is run off to Shidou's palace, though. Guess he really did know about his palace already, like Yusuke guessed.
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>>158685774
Pictures of cats
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What did she mean by this?
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Wait a minute. There's a small stretch of gameplay between the Ongyo-ki boss fight and running into Goro, right?

Has anyone tried using a カエレール to jump back to the palace entrance at that point instead of walking back to the safe room? Does the game even let you use those at that point?
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>>158688349
stop trying to break my game
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>>158688349
doing so unlocks the true ending where goro has to confront you infront of shido and instead of dying lives and joins you
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>>158688349
I didn't even remotely think of that.
And I actually crafted one of those, and have a previous save file of that fight. I think I should try that.
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>>158688059
SM is actually Sho's gam!
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>>158688497
Breaking the game is half the fun though.

Seriously though, if nobody's tried that yet, I could give it a shot. My current save's close enough that I can probably get to that point in a bit.
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>>158688889
game, obviously
>>158688920
If it's not a problem then go for it, might be interesting. O rmight be nothing.
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>>158688728
I think I still have the two Morgana gives you in my file. Wasn't going to continue until Monday, but now I'm really tempted to see if this works.

I doubt it's going to do anything (and I wouldn't be surprised if you can't even use those at that point), but hey, it never hurts to try.
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>>158688349
There's probably no trigger that you've just completed the Ongyo-ki fight, rather there'll be one after the Goro fight. Returning to the entrance will probably just make the game think you never fought either of them.
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>makoto: um
>mc: what’s up
>makoto: it’s um
>makoto: I wanted to study something that I have no knowledge about. If it could be with you
>makoto: would it be bad?
>makoto: I want to be with you

What she meant by that?
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>>158689290
um
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>>158688889
Sho's gams!
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>>158685774
You just posted it. A bunch of A's.
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>>158688349

I wouldn't expect anything really. You could probably leave and come back 5 days later and Goro will still appear in the engine room like normal.
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>>158689595
knowing Goro, that's actually plausible
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>>158689647
Goro is supposed to take you by surprise though.
I mean if you really could get out, it'd be pretty weird.
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>>158689290
she meant anal
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>>158689290
Wants to learn how to make lockpicks
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>>158689345
mmmhm?
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>>158690295
it's um
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This is your imouto tonight.
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>>158690410
Headphones are uglier than the average /pg/ user
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Anne loves pure white men. The most.
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>>158691046
asians are just too small for her. mara-wise
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What do people mean when they say "Atlus made a mistake"?

Does P5 have some game breaking bug?
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>>158691329
No it's shit.
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>>158691329
they mean killing best boy
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>>158650962

800 yen for one DLC ? What is wrong with these guys ?
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>>158691423
Ryuji's teeth are cute!
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>>158688349
>>158689086
Gave it a try.

The カエレール shows as useable, but trying to actually use it results in the error sound. Guess they actually remembered to account for that.

Anything else that might be worth trying while I'm here?
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>>158691423
Was that painful?
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Why is he so fabulous?
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>>158691736
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>>158691843
>>158691736
kill yourselves holy shit
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>>158691725

Try leaving manually by going back to the entrance by foot?
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>>158691881
>Try leaving manually by going back to the entrance by foot?
are you stupid or did you just not play the game
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>>158691875
No I'm serious, was it painful?
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>>158691915

Honestly I just watched playthroughs of that part. Why are you actually blocked from leaving that area?
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>>158691915
>/pg/
>playing the game
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>>158691996
Goro stops you on your way toward the only exit.
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>>158691881
Can't. There's no way to leave the engine room without getting jumped by Goro, since you can't use the カエレール, there's no safe room in the engine room, and there's no way to avoid the room with his boss encounter.

That's kind of the problem here.
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>>158691959
I think it was more of a psychological shock than anything.
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>>158692047
>>158692069

I thought he only jumps you when you enter the engine room, which you have to go down to, where as the sub boss that triggers the scene was higher up?

But I only watched a twitch stream at 4 am in the morning so before you jump down my throat it is in indeed possible I am remembering this wrong.
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>>158692314
Just the opposite. You fight the Ongyo-ki miniboss at the very end of the engine room, and Goro jumps you when you go through the hall there to leave again.
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>>158691875
get this hothead out of here
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>>158691725
Whoops. Looks like there's no way to get into the hall without immediately triggering the cutscene.

The vent leading to the room with the Ongyo-ki miniboss is still accessible, but you can't get anywhere with it (two paths are blocked off, and you can't even jump down in that room anymore after beating the miniboss). Doesn't seem like there's anything else you can do in the engine room area, and none of the other thief tools have effects that seem like they'd help here.
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>>158693094
Th-thanks. Y-you're hot too.
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Sensei!
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Huh, I didn't know asking if he really thinks he can kill Joker leads to Goro mirroring his "I'll more than meet your expectations" spiel from the first visit to Sae's palace, when he first uses Robin Hood. That's neat.
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My Titan X comes in next week. I know for a fact I will play Persona 5 in 4K, 60 FPS in my lifetime. Just wait, consolecucks.
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>>158694892
it's like poetry, it rhymes

-Hashino-sensei
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I think I like Haru more than Futaba, but I don't want to betray my cute NEET sister. What should I do?
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This slipped my mind but where does Yusuke stay at after Madarame threatened to call the police on him?
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>>158695892
you don't have to betray her as long as you pick her on valentine's day
do both on separate runs of course
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>>158638692
I love them so much
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>>158696021
ew too old
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>>158695892
Cute NEET sister is not for sexual, neither is Forehead wife.

Date the filthy american pig or Yakuza cum dumpster.
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>>158694495
Chances that shes as good, or even better than, Toriumi?
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>>158696782
WAY better
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>>158696395
Don't fucking tell me what to do.
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>>158696864
Kill yourself phoneposting scum
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>Makoto says she got you store-bought chocolates on Valentines
>she probably made them herself and put her heart and soul into it but is too shy to admit it
2 perfect
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>>158696848
I dont believe you.
Better than Saeko maybe, but not Tori-yumi
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>>158696864
what the fuck is that thigh
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>>158696932
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>>158694892
What are his reactions to all the choices before he berserks himself?
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>>158684705
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>>158696918
My PC is really old and I can't afford a better one because I'm a kusoNEET desu.
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>>158696782
toriumi didn't have outstanding writing when you take off the cake goggles

still want to eat her ass tho
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>anons on /pg/ would have done a better job with the english font choices and UI elements than Atlus USA did
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>>158697057
Why does ATLUS hate pancake-kun?
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>>158697216
and even then its worse than the english font thats already in the game
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>>158697216
yeah but anons on /pg/ wouldn't have the skill it takes to remove the japanese voice track, that takes courage
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>>158697216
Was there a picture of Takamaki with that angry mark in the game? It looks like it was made with MS Paint.
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>>158696932
>makoto says she cheated on you with some yakuza guys while you were in the slammer
>she probably stayed inside all day and never had contact outside the PT but is too shy to admit it
so perfect
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>>158697057
>Glasses-less Potter
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>>158697441
pretty sure that pic was made pre-release
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>>158697396
Was the tweet about the french localization trying to get the original audio real, or just a ruse?
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>>158697396
Just leave it in.

>>158697216
Just leave it in.
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>>158697527
they tweeted about an hour later that they spoke with them again and it was misinformation
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>>158697504
>Sae sees Makoto's nudes.
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>>158697608
tabarnak.
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>>158697608
Yeah, but that was about the french translation part. The dual audio thing is still unconfirmed, neither Atlus USA/Deep Silver have officially said it's dub only, and their press-releases are vague on the matter.
My bet is they have no plans on dual audio but being the stingy shits they've always been they'll keep the fact it's dub-only quiet until as close to release as possible to try and get sales from more people.
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>>158697676
DELET THIS
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>>158697504
>P5 Arena
>Just like how Yu puts on his uniform to get back in action, Joker puts on his glasses before tearing shit up
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>>158697676
>you will never stuff that cute NEET pussy with your phantom phallus
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>>158697676
That picture is pretty NEET, but this is a blue board desu.
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>>158697631
No, she's seeing her own nudes that Makoto stole from her computer and posted on the PT's chat.
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>>158697676
why is Phantom green?
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>tfw morgana is silently judging you
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>>158697676
hmm yep thanks to those white bars i can't tell what that is between her legs
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>>158697676
NEET is not for lewd!
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>>158698245
>doesn't know about Japanese censorship laws
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>>158698226
more like he's thankful he can fug ann(e) now.
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>>158698226
So Goro is actually slightly shorter than potter?

cute
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>>158698390
don't think she'd like/want a cat dick
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>>158698416
He's leaning a bit, they're the same height.
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>>158698245
I didn't even notice them
though he'd probably get a pass if he at least censored the nipples
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>>158698436
Anne would take any dick, she doesn't discriminate

Unless you're a jew
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>>158698436
she will in the doujin I'm making
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>>158698416
>>158698482
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why is there not an option to brush the fucking MC's hair goddamnit
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>>158698614
>He's actually shorter than potter

FOR SEXUAL BULLYING
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>>158697509
>>158698708
Both are 174 cm
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>>158698654
why is there no option to cut his fucking bangs. That fuck legit shouldn't be able to see shit. At least MC had one eye uncovered
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>8 years
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>>158698753
>>>/ksg/
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>>158698748
is that the official list? How tall is futaba and haru?
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>>158698708
Goro's still bending his legs a bit in that pic, that boy can't stand up straight to save his life.
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>>158698563
Make sure its anatomically correct
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>>158698862
No, it isn't. Only MC's height has been confirmed to be 175 cm.

Btw, do any of you know how Atlus usually release this kind of info?
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>>158698978
>that boy can't stand up straight to save his life.
ah, guess that's what killed him
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>>158698978
99% of the male characters in P5 can't.
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>>158699031
artbooks usually
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>>158699013
I don't say this unironically often but I'm gonna need you to go ahead and delete your post right now.
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What is Joker's face trying to convey?
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>>158699065
does anybody thing the gap between his legs looks like mara
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>>158699765
fuck. cant unsee
what have you done anon
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>>158699765
the deep symbolism
BRAVO HASHINO
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>>158699683
Why is some of her hair on top of the tiara crown thing
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>>158700440
breaks up the lines somewhat
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>>158700440
Because side locks are cute
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why can't you choose what to wear outside of palaces?
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>>158700667
Because who fucking cares
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>>158700667
we need cat clothing dlc for morgana first
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Goro is for _____________
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>>158700826
Torturing slowly to death while it's streamed online. People donate and decide what you do to him next, top donator decides how he dies
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>>158700975
For hating Goro you sure put a lot of thought into the ways how he should die
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was this futaba's best moment? will her dub VA come even close?
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>>158701223
>will her dub VA come even close?
What do you think?
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>>158691765
his mother used to be a high class stripper.
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>>158701106
I don't hate him actually, just like how humiliated he'd be by something like that.
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help this neko
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>>158701223
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>>158701223
Futaba's best moments are her being Yusuke-levels of autistic like when she got lost in the department store and when she went apeshit with fireworks
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It's his birthday, /pg/

What should we get him?
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>>158701827
it's been his birthday for 10 hours now
a kiss
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>>158701713
elaborate more on her getting lost in the department store and going ballistic with fireworks
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>>158701827
cum
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>>158701461
share some more of your scenarios. I enjoy bullying Goro too
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>>158701943
>>158701461
Fujoshi go home, or get better taste in boys
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>>158701905
Department store is her first Co-op rank where she's crying talking to some employee or police officer or something then Potter shows up

Fireworks happens on the 28th
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>>158702106
>trying to suffocate the cat with sparkler fumes

Sweet NEET needs to go to prison
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>>158702106
what like a lost child thing in malls
cute
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NOW LOOK AT THIS NEET, THAT I JUST FOUND
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Serious question, did Mitsuru ever say anything about leaving Japan for school, or was this just a rumour that her fangirl believed?
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>>158703812
She looks a lot like the NEET I found in the streets
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>>158704161
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>>158704161
Stop posting here and start making MakoHaru lewds!
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>>158703865
I don't even remember anything like that.
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>>158704259
She says shes worried about Mitsuru leaving the country during the end game.

I only remember Mitsuru mentioning going to university though
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>>158704161
お誕生日おめでとうございます!
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>>158704161
WHY IS HE THANKING US
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>>158704368
>HE
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>>158704342
Does she even mention going to uni in Arena? Maybe she dropped the idea altogether since she's rich anyway and has better things to do, like designing uniforms for Shadow Ops and watching the world burn.
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>>158704161
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I love wodsum but I also hate him/her

MakoHaru was a mistake
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>>158704512
And making babies with Nanjo
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so is wodsum the official /pg/ meme artist now or what
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>>158704563
Mako x Haru is the best ship that isnt Mako x Futa
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>>158704689
they draw makoto with a dick sometimes, does that count
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>>158704672
meme artist, meme pairing, meme general
its a match made in heaven
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>>158705230
It counts even more
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>>158698753
The fuck is even going on in this pic
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>>158705452
Anne can't believe Hitler lost
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>>158705478
Makes sense, even with his loyal followers he amassed in P2 he lost
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>>158700826
Raping and mindbreaking!
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>>158705478
>tfw no maken costume so that anne could be margaret
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wew lad
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>>158706680
did this twitterman make any for girls besides sensei
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>>158706680
>no fan art of the bunny girls in the casino dungeon
kill me
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>>158706705
Nah, he usually just draws Sadayo and sometimes Tae

he's @hiyocotaisa if anyone cared
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Post cute foreheads in honor of Wodsum's birthday.
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>>158707216
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>>158707216
this image makes me think it would be cool if futaba could fight so she had a weapon to pose with
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>>158707671
Why does Haru even use axe

What the fuck
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>>158707760
So she can chop off your dick.
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fuck you wodsum
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>>158707921
fuck you goroman
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>>158707760
same reason she uses a grenade launcher: because she is violent
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>>158694892
This is great. Can you continue until Shidou's fight?
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>>158707921
you fuck with wodsum you fuck with me you fujo shit
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>>158708272
Probably not today, but I'll work on that on Monday/Tuesday if all goes well.

I should be able to get the game over for missing the advance notice deadline soon, though.
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>>158708272
potter looks like he wants yusuke gone just a little.
I do too, so I can pretend it's shipping art.
but I know removing him would make me look autistic.
what a dilemma.
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sexually harassing Goro!
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>>158709050
well you do already
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>>158709050
if you remove him then it just looks like he's mad at futaba.
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>>158704161
>a social link with a twitter artist
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>KEKOOM
what did they meant by this?
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>>158708272
They gonna be great as siblings
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CUTE
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>-So, studying is great and all but you need to have common sense
>-you guys are going to graduate, be adults, get married, where you’ll need more common sense
>-R, hey MC do you want to get married
1 of course
The love interest will blush and comment
>-Y, what I’m going to eat tomorrow is the kind of thing I worry about

>Yusuke is so autistically hungry he has no time for love
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>see this picture
>notice Makoto and Haru's hands

C A N O N
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>>158710715
ryuji is doing it too, but we already knew ryuji x anne was canon
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>>158710258
cute
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>>158710778
Ryuji just likes to watch
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>>158710715
>>158710778
Goro does it too? So HaruxGoroxRyujixMakoto?
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>>158710909
i think he's just holding the pocky
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>tfw I'm canon
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NO WAY!!
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Is Haru the most posted about Persona girl?
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>>158710971
it's jagariko
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The whole gang's here!

Except that faggot detective!
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Haru a cutie patootie
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>Morgana: I get the feeling we forgot something important...
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>>158712583
I want off this wild ride
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>>158713215
GE LEDY
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>>158712583
Is this after Goro dies?
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>>158713343
>no GET REDI in dub
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>>158711898
I wish I had a group of friends like that
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>>158712583
Groo's actually alive and escape to somewhere else. Then he became a Buddhist monk to atone his sin.

Those who don't know the references : the traitor Akechi Mitsuhide successfully escaped after Nobunaga assassination then changed his name into Tenkai and began his new life as Buddhist Priest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenkai
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>>158714296
>Then he became a Buddhist monk to atone his sin.
Please no, don't make the bald edits an actual reality now.
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>>158713637
Yes.

Sorry for the poor quality on the caps. Most of this scene has that hazy filter that's also used during the media res part when he's misremembering or incompletely remembering things.

>Morgana and Joker are in Leblanc's attic. Suddenly, someone can be heard barging in.

>Morgana: What!?
>Goro: It's him!

>Goro: I discovered that there was no body in the morgue.
>Goro: I was surprised... Who would have thought that even I would be fooled like this.

>Police detective: [Protag]. There's no mistake that you are the ringleader of the Phantom Thieves, is there?

>You're wrong.
>* What if I am?

>Police detective: Using some inexplicable power, you showed Akechi Goro a phony and shot the jailer.
>Police detective: Don't try anything funny, got it? This time, we've also been given permission to fire.
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>>158714404
Goro: Game over.

After that, it cuts to the usual Velvet Room game over screen. No new text there.
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>>158714550
I really want high quality rips of those cut-ins
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>>158714296
p5:2 will star a reformed pacifist goro
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>>158714550
That's kinda hot
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>>158714550
Some anon said Goro had like 17 cut-ins, I wonder what the rest are like if they do exist.
Thanks for the caps and translation, anon.
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>>158714404
>>158714550
goro was a good boy he dindu nuffin
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>>158714889
You and me both, anon. I know where they're stored, but I haven't had any luck with converting them to a viewable format.

It's hard to capture with photos, but just before that cut-in, the expression on Goro's model changes from neutral to that grin he sometimes has. I was expecting the game to just pull up one of his more malicious portraits because of that for a moment, not... that.
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>>158714404
How does that translate to "What if I am?". I'm trying to learn this language and it's absolute hell.
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>>158715385
It's more of a "So what?" type of response, like a cheeky brat.
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>>158715163
are they matroska videos by some chance
I thought I saw some things saved as .mkv, although that may have been another game
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>tfw P5 is the most fun I've had playing vidya in over a decade
>tfw been depressed as fuck for as long as I can remember but had a smile on my face for the entirety of P5
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>>158715521
.000 and .001 archives containing DXT3 .dds files, actually, since the game seems to use models with textures applied to them for the cut-ins.

They're in USRDIR/cutin, with the texture files specifically being in the utarc subfolder.
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>>158715868
go and try to make some friends Goro
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>>158715868
That's nice to hear, Anon.
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>>158631265
>>158631545

If this anon is still here: Now that I remember, Sojiro doesn't get mad over the diary. He finds one of the PT calling cards in one of the books and that's when he realizes you're the PT. He gets pissed obviously cause he realizes you got Futaba involved too, but eventually he calms down once Futaba explains how you helped her and helped others through the PT. I think that's the part you were talking about.
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>>158716319
I'm still here and now that I think about it again, you're right. Like I said, I didn't pay too much attention to the scene so not surprising that I was wrong about it. On a side note, it's pretty cool how most/all of the social links actually realize that you are the PT by the end.
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>>158708272
Does this group of characters have a pixiv tag? I see them together somewhat often but I don't think they have a fandom name or anything.
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Oh, right. While rushing to 12/17 for the game over, I didn't get the chat >>158680848 posted, so it looks like that won't happen unless you've already finished the heist for Shidou's palace. People still talked about Goro too, although there's definitely way more comments about Shidou overall, especially as the deadline draws close.
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>>158716752
>you will never grope anne in the subway and tell her that it should have been her instead of shiho
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>-I couldn’t even leave my own house, now we’re going to beat up god? That’s crazy awesome.

Why is Futaba best girl?
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>>158716931
>you will never molest Anne in the subway

>>158716935
>jrpg
>you beat up God
Every time
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>tfw you will never molest the detective
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>>158716935
Cringe
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>>158717126
poor anon looked in a mirror
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>>158717126
>Cringe
Cringe
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>tfw you will never be molested by Sae
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>>158716931
>Anne will never willingly take her friend's place
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>>158707216
Its an Utena reference.
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After reading up on the pastebin rough translations posted a few threads back, I can say the ending is fine as it is. Everything wraps up a bit too nice. The only oversight I see is the Third Eye still being usable on the final day but that might just be dev oversight. Ryuji's comment about the dream is just a harmless figure of speech.

It's a good ending. It doesn't need Sophia or P5-2. Goro being alive wouldn't be enough to warrant a duology (though he's pretty clearly dead as fug). I can see them adding juvie hall content in the re-release but not much else. Maybe more Sae content to make the jump from 7 to 10 more natural.
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>>158716565
>In the end, every Co-op members are present and support the PT during the fight with Yaldabaoth
>Except Goro

How can this one boy have so much suffering?
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>>158718042
It's hard to support someone when you are, you know. Dead.
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>>158717825
>Ryuji's comment about the dream is just a harmless figure of speech.
the first thing I thought was that it was an Inception reference
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>>158718042
>goro doesn't even get his face in the sky, the standard "you're dead" moment in anime

goro...had a hard life
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>>158717825
>Reading the rough translation
>Not playing the game

Fuck off
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>>158718140
The whole game is an Inception reference.
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>>158717825
I don't think it's dev oversight, you can use third eye on the last day to find the velvet room and talk to lavenza if you maxed strenght. If it wasn't for the third eye you wouldn't really find it. But then again I guess that's pretty weird in itself.
Also, Sae jumps from 6 to 10, not from 7.
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>>158718127
Even dead people like Shinji can support P3 MC during fighting Nyx, but why Goro is treated as non-existance after fighting Shidou?
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>>158638603
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST ITS ANNOYING HOW TEXT HEVY THIS GME CAN BE SOMETIMES!

I was exploring the mementos beofre the 1st set of exams and i just skipped an ass load of dialog in the memetos lvl 1-7.

Dont really care as its most likely nothing important story wise.
Only thing i read was when i get to the second locked door.
Ann mentions something about us needing more people to proceed any further, so i guess that means i need my next chracter to go any further down.

How many lvl does the memetos dungeon have?
Is it just unlimited re spawning dungeons that just increase in difficulty?
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>>158718175
I did play and beat the game the week it came out bro. It was mostly to reconfirm and go over anything the google translate app missed when I played it.
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>>158718284
because shinji was a good guy and not a bad guy
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>>158718368
What about Adachi then?
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>>158718284
Goro wasn't their nakama, just a tool other corrupt adults used until he was useless to them. Like Strega.
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>>158710715
>>158710778
Ryuji is a professional third wheel
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>>158718401
he was not as much of a bad guy
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Besides Fighting/Rhythm/Shitty EO Ripoff, what genre should the next Persona spinoff be?
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>>158718897
street racing
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>>158718897
Hentai srpg
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>>158718897
Racing
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>>158718897
souls game directed by miyazaki
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>>158718694
So does Goro. He actually sacrificed himself for the PT. Hell, EVEN Adachi supported you during Izanami fight in P4G.
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>Sadayo is a party member in P5 Crimson
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>>158718042
>There's a reason why Goro's existence is still in oblivion: Remember when the PT start dissappearing after the Mementos leaked out the real world because people stopped believing in them? The same happened to Goro when he was trapped in the Engine Room with the Shadows, in which at that exact time in the real world, people completely forget about Goro. That's also why Futaba couldn't detect him and those two gunshots are probably came from Cognitive Goro trying to shot him when the real Goro gradually disappeared.

Just copy paste this from previous threads.
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>Ryuji is the only bro character who didn't have his girlfriend die
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>>158721127
Because they're not exclusive.
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>>158721127
Duh. He's a Chariot Arcana, not a Magician. In fact, the one who should suffer is Morgana.
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>>158721127
Goro was his girlfriend.
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>>158721264
>tfw Goro isn't your girlfriend
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Spinoff game about the adventures of Makoto and Haru after Potter goes back home when?
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>>158721879
I prefer Goro's lone adventure to around Japan in search for redemption
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>>158722193
>tfw he shaves his head as part of his character arc
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>>158722281
And he became a Buddhist Priest, just like this anon said >>158714296
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>>158722281
Will Goro switch his Persona out to Daisoujou?
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>Harem Queen forces you to go through the Kama Palace again

Why

At least Nanjo and Mark got some good insults in before that.
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>>158712583
What's the date on this?
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>>158714550
>Game over

What did he mean by this?
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>>158723561
this
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>>158723561
you need to WAKE UP GET UP GET OUT THERE
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>>158723472
12/17, nighttime. Cuts to the scene in >>158714404 immediately after that line.
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Is there a guide for maxing all co-ops?
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>>158722837
Kek, those two are the best. Who did you choose as your fifth?
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>>158723685
Wait for the official guide next week
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>>158719763
I'm still mad that Goro's ghost didn't root for you. MC literally had two dead niggas cheer for him, and for some reason it's suddenly an issue in P5.
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the mementos miniboss theme is fucking cool tbqh
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>The P1/2 cast and Yu did not notice Igor has been missing for 2 years
>Nameless, Belladonna, and the siblings have not noticed anything different about Igor
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>>158723791
yeah, that was pretty much the only thing that bugs me in the end.

I was actually hoping to see Goro up last, like Shinjiro
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>>158724339
>The P1/2 cast and Yu did not notice Igor has been missing for 2 years
>implying yaldabaoth didn't kill them
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>>158723716
I didn't realize that you were forced into your fifth as soon as you picked them. I assumed you could rotate your party or something later so I was forced into Brown because I let him tag along.
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>>158724430
You poor fucking sap. Did you read the /pg/ quick guide? Did you ask about P1 here on /pg/? Anytime anyone mentions playing P1, I make sure to tell them to tell Brown to fuck off if you don't want just one girl.
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>>158724339
>Nameless, Belladonna, and the siblings have not noticed anything different about Igor
Or that the siblings' youngest sister turned into twins
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>>158722346
>>158722193
>yfw this is how they bring back the backpacking idea
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>>158724375
Pretty sure Potter's dad isn't dead, anon.
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>>158724558
Yeah how the hell didn't they noticed that their baby sister was suddenly two? They all seem very aware of one another and they bully each other all the time, especially to Theo, so how is it that they didn't notice this for the past two years?
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>>158724669
I'm sure Wada will come up with some sort of excuse in P5A
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>>158724430
>>158724516
To be fair, what other game does this? The genre has us all trained to think our choices don't matter and telling him to fuck off is just the asshole dialogue option, not that you've got other people who could potentially join if you say no to him.
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>>158724732
Even if you pretend Nameless and Belladonna don't count, and that Elizabeth is out journeying to save MC, it gives no excuse for Margaret and Theo.

There's also the idea that Nyarly wouldn't try to step in knowing there is some bitch ass "god" trying to destroy chaos.
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>>158724867
Yes but most people would know that P1/2 are different games to P3/4/5.

Wouldn't it make you a little curious to see what happens when you tell the class clown to fuck off?
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>>158724581
I can go with this. Maybe he can be like Raidou Kuzunoha, investigating strange things around Japan and fighting using his personas only.
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>>158714550
>Game has been released for more than a month now
>We only find out about this now (new scene/new cut in)

Hmmmm
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>>158718314
*Satanael
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>>158726659
What the fuck are you on about? This is just what you get if you don't do Shido's dungeon you dipshit.
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someone make a "say ur fuckin prayers futaba" pls
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>>158726725
And your point is? This is still a scene we never saw before regardless of what happens in it, same with that cut-in. Are you retarded?
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>>158726725
>>158727270
Hmmmm
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>>158727270
Except that scene has been posted here before as well. It's not new.
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>>158727360
In passing yeah, but only with vague details
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>>158727398
What the fuck even is your point?
>wow something got posted at a certain time, incredible huh
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get away from her yusuke you don't even like girls REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>158727437
>yusuke doesnt like girls
what's this hot meme?
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>>158727435
That after all that time there's still a lot de didn't see. Is it that hard to understand?
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>>158727650
>the entirety of a 70+ hour game hasn't been posted on this site
Wow you're right that really is incredible
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>>158721264
I want Ryuji to show Goro how to get over his daddy issues, by personally demonstrating.
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>>158727750
Especially considering this is a pretty striking scene, yeah it is kinda weird nobody posted the full scene earlier
I didn't even see the cut-in on twitter and Nips love to take pics of the cut-ins
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>>158727750
That scene in particular was always "mentioned" but never screencapped for proof. Considering how /pg/ acts like a rumor monger, it's surprising that someone finally decided to post the proof. An anon can easily pretend to be some other dude.
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>>158727437
>tfw Sugita will never ever get that tight pussy
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cute
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>>158727750
You really are retarded aren't you.
I'm not talking about random pointless scenes but an unique one, which IS kind of a big deal. Besides it was mentioned before but never with actual proof, so it's great we finally got some.
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>>158728373
Oh no
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>>158726850
post a pic
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>keep all weapons, protectors, and accessories on NG+
isnt that kinda gamebreaking as fuck
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>>158729114
its ng+
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>marin karin
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What did she meant by this?
no seriously I don't get why she was so pissed at him, they literally met once for like 10 seconds and she smiled
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>>158718897
Visual Novel.
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>>158730709
Persona is already a Visual Novel
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>you now realize atlus usa will make morgana say "purr-sona!" the whole game because they think it's funny and don't care if it wasn't in the original translation
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>>158724430
Dont let >>158724516 get you down.

I brought Brown first time through too and he's alright, just not as good as Elly or Ayase.

There are some really good lances and SMGs you can find late game.
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>>158730857
Was "BEARSONA" part of the original translation?
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>>158730993
Nope.
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>>158730993
What do you think?
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>>158730993
It was even worse in Japanese, 'perokuma'.
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>>158731005
Well at least his VA pulled it off to make it sound good

Morgana's VA from what we heard so far though
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>>158731086
>Well at least his VA pulled it off to make it sound good
lmao
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>>158731107
please, it was clearly decent at the least, and that goes for his overall performance. Adamantly thinking that sub will always be better than dub in every possible reason isnt healthy
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>>158731418
Both dubs of P4 were shit lad.
Kindly piss off.
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>>158731418

Junpei might be the only Persona character better in english.
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>>158731418
>Adamantly thinking that sub will always be better than dub in every possible reason isnt healthy
>Always preferring to experience your media with the original cast and direction isnt healthy
But it is, wanting your media to be dubbed by a completely separate team of directors and actors means that you are getting a less faithful representation of the original product, and you should feel ashamed of that.
Watching dubbed media past the age where you learn to read is fucking pathetic.
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>>158731561
Nah
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>>158731586
Prime example: Yukari.

The number of people who think shes mean to Junpei, and doesnt like him, is baffling.
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>>158716319
What? no

Sojiro finds the old PT's calling card from the futaba dungeon in futaba's room and goes batshit. Her, the MC and sojiro have a chat sitting in one of the tables at leblanc and she confesses everything; about how depressed she was and how she wanted her heart stolen because she couldn't take it anymore, as well as how the MC saved her life and how she wanted to help them

The acting (futaba's) is so good I think it might be one of the best scenes in the game. They're there for like 10 minutes or so if I remember correctly

He doesn't find the diary. He finds the calling card futaba still had in her bedroom (which she kept as a nice souvenir). I can't remember quite right but this was around the part of the story where there were fake calling cards being sent everywhere to fuck up with the PTs reputation
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>>158731720
Can't wait for the same thing to happen with Anne towards Ryuji, and Futaba towards Yusuke.
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>>158731720
She is a little mean to him at times but Junpei isn't particularly bright either, so it evens out. I'd say she's more like his tsukkomi.
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>>158731876
>I'd say she's more like his tsukkomi.
Thats what Im implying.

In Japanese her lines are much more deadpan than catty.
P3 does keep some of the firstname/lastname basis within the characters too, but not all of it.
Right from the start its obvious they were friends from before SEES
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>>158731745
>The acting (futaba's) is so good I think it might be one of the best scenes in the game.

Futaba's acting all round is fantastic.
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rank the p5 bosses in terms of difficulty for you
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>>158731720
Wait is the dub on Yukari really that different? I play undub and I admit she's not that bad
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>>158732632
she sounds perpetually pissed that she even knows junpei
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>>158732632
The scene where she breaks down in The Answer is probably the best dubbed part in the series.

Its just the stuff with Junpei specifically.
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>>158732735
>the best dubbed part in the series.
what an achievement
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>>158732784
shush, it was good
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>>158732436
But it's not all that meme hacker neet bullshit. It started off SO dramatic I thought she was going to bluff her way out of the situation with some bullshit or something

The whole thing was incredible. Futaba almost in tears the whole time while telling sojiro that they saved (and changed) her life
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>>158732901
Not him, and I really am genuinely not trying to shitpost or argue for the sake of it, but I thought it was awful to be honest. Felt real forced and unnatural, one of the worst bits of acting in the game.
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>>158732954
>But it's not all that meme hacker neet bullshit.
Dude Futaba had quite a lot of scenes in the game where she wasn't doing that shit and was just being a teen with serious social anxiety and depression, the VA nailed all of those scenes.
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>>158732963
Im one of 6 people on Earth that actually like Yukari, so maybe Im biased, but I really did like it.

Played through all of FES in both languages too.
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Its fine and all but which persona character can defeat Madara?
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>>158733050
Ken.
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>>158733018
>>158732954
>>158732436
The girl playing Futaba in English had a major role in Cold Steel 2 recently that was really good, but I dont see how its going to compare to Aoi Yuki
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>>158733169
>playing games that have dual audio with the english dub
I hate you pg
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>>158721127
Morgana was the bro character. And even if you want to insist that Ryuji was instead, he was still by far the single worst character in an otherwise great game. And yes, I have actually played the game. Never before have I enjoyed NTRing someone in a game as much as I did doing it to him. Although it wasn't really NTR anyway considering that just because Anne was nice to him, and was cool enough to not give a shit about his obvious perversion at the beach, does not mean she wants to fuck him. It just makes her a chill character, at least compared to the shitty playable girls in P4. And Anne is far from my favorite P5 girl. I just really do not see why anyone would like Ryuji, a character with exactly zero redeeming qualities. Even the Gorofags make more sense.
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>>158733214
Is this a copypasta?
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>>158733254
No.
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>>158733269
Pretty sure it is
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>>158733018
Yeah that's also good, but I didn't really mention it because the calling card scene blows them out of the water

The rest of her scenes after she pops off are also very well acted... it's just that it 'somewhat' becomes a walking meme (literally). Still great, but seeing some of her scenes really reminded me of the old days when the trailers and interviews tried to tell us that these guys were in the real struggle

They all have scenes like these, but I think futaba's is the best by far
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>>158733195
xseed wanted to only do Jap audio and Falcom turned them down, they were forced to make a dub.
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>>158733309
Go search the archive and find where what I just typed out myself was written before if you're so convinced it is a copypasta. I'll wait.
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>>158733553
Yeah I already found it anon it's okay.
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Not gonna lie folks, never been fond of the shotas in these games, but Shinya Oda's pretty damn good.
I can see him getting some good doujins down the line
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what did she men by this??
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>>158733664
If its not ss, Im not interested.

Theres bound to be a doujin of adult Maya x shota Tatsuya hidden in a comiket graveyard somewhere.
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>>158733769
>ss
That's no fun
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>>158733584
Post a link to it then, and make sure to include something about spoonfeeding newfags in your response. Otherwise this is the last (You) you are getting from me unless you actually have something of substance to say in defense of the most worthless character in the game. Of course any real rebuttal would likely require you to have actually played it, which I doubt you have. By all means though, surprise me.
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>>158733928
>Post a link to it then
Already closed the link and moved on anon
You must already know where you got it from anyway, come on man
What's all this kerfuffle about (You)? I don't get it
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>>158732603
please, I want to know how they stacked up for other people.
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>>158734325
Now thats a Bond shot if I ever saw one.
get it? because Bond, bonds, kizuna...
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>>158734515
>Now thats a Bond shot if I ever saw one.
Didn't see the scene where Satanael shoots Yaldabaoth in the head I take it?
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>>158734551
No, why?
Is it deliberately a James Bond thing?
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>>158734624
>Is it deliberately a James Bond thing?
No but the camera literally follows the bullet through the chamber.
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>>158734428
Well I'd like to answer your question but to be honest they were all easy for me. I died to Madarame and Okumura once each just from making a mistake. Everything else including the final boss I killed first time. I might have been overleveled or something though since I got the 7 sp restore per turn accessories pretty early, which made killing the normal shadows simple, so I pretty much always killed every one I came across, even when backtracking.
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>>158717825

Third Eye last day isn't the problem. You've always been able to use Third Eye even when not in the other world so why would that go away?

The problem if anything is MC getting the world arcana midway through his prison stint for no apparant reason long after he got Satanael and defeated Iady.

That is just weird. That should have happened during the final boss, and why they put it off until a random day during the timeskip baffles me.
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>>158734969
is a direct mesdsage on Twitter, like a private message?
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>>158734869
I don't really get why people think the third eye thing is an issue either, unless I missed something important about it when playing. Sure, you get the power from Yaldy, but why does that mean it has to go away just because he is gone? I mean, you can still talk to Lavenza and see the VR door, although you can't go in, on 3/19, the second to last day. You may have to complete the twins' coop for her to show up but I don't know since I haven't done a playthrough without maxing them out, but even so, the fact that she still shows up at all is indicative that you still have some power which could possibly be utilized in the future, just like the other games' persona users. Especially with at the minimum, P5 Arena is all but confirmed to be coming eventually.
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>>158735296
Oh, I should also mention that I didn't have to use the third eye to see Lavenza and the door. They were just there in the usual places for me.
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>>158735296

If you do meet her on the last day she gives you another key to the room, since she wasn't able to do so as Joker's true VR attendant until then.

You can't use it because the game is over, but if anything that's basically just saying Joker still has all his power, if he can't use it for the moment without the other world.
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>>158735417
I know, I actually mentioned something about that in a post in the last thread. Like I said though, with stuff like that happening, I don't get why people are confused by him still having the third eye, with at least one spinoff, P5A, basically already confirmed.
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>>158733756
"Wew, Kamoshida's is bigger"
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>>158735534
Delete this
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>>158735534
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>Kamoshida's dick killed /pg/
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>>158736571
No one wants to get raped here


...I think
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>>158736571
Every couple of days I drunkenly shitpost to keep the general from falling off of /vg/.

Just doing my part.
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>>158735178
it's exaqctly that, it doesn't show up in your tweets or anything
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/pg/ is dead as shit.
Jesus.
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>>158738613
captcha: manga 4600
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>contest ends in like two days
>99% of entries are total shit
>actually good artists didn't bother to participate
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>>158739295
99% of persona protags are total shit.
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>>158739461
That's wrong, all of them are total shit
and they aren't limited to just protags, they can draw literally anything Persona-related.
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List of Persona weapon users.

Melee weapon wielders:
>One-handed Sword: Piercy, Elly, P3 MC, Mitsuru, Sho (Dual wield), Yusuke, and Goro
>Two-handed Sword: Nanjo, Kandori, Tatsuya Suou, Tatsuya Sudou, Junpei, Narukami, and Morgana
>Knife/Dagger: Koromaru, Yosuke (Dual wield), and P5 MC
>Polearm: Brown, Hitler, Ken, and P3P FeMC
>Axe: Mark, Shinjiro, Metis, Chidori (chained), Labrys, and Haru
>Whip: Ayase, Anna Yoshizaka, and Anne
>Fists/Kicks: Reiji, Lisa, Ulala, Akihiko, Chie and Makoto

Ranged weapon wielders:
>Bow: Maki and Yukari
>Throwing weapon: Yukino, Jun, JOKER and Baofu

Firearm wielders (as main weapon):
>Handgun: Maya (Dual wield), Katsuya
>Machine Gun: Eikichi
>Revolver: Takaya, Reaper, Naoto and Adachi
>Various: Aigis

Unique Weapon wielders:
>Bludgeon/Club: Ryuji
>Blunt Object/Shield: Kanji
>War Fan: Yukiko
>Microphone: Rise
>Bag: Marie
>Grenades: Jin
>Crossbow: Zen (Dual wield)
>Tome & Tarot Cards: Velvet Room Inhabitants

I guess the list is complete? Any suggestion who might I have missed?
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>>158739537
Why they drew Haru cosplaying as Tatsuya?
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>>158739714
that can't be Haru, he's not fluffy enough
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>>158739713
>Any suggestion who might I have missed?
Weaponized waifus - Tadashi
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>>158739713
I think you missed P4MC...
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>>158739956
second to last in two-handed sword
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>>158739713
Actually, shouldn't Yusuke be in two-handed swords? Even if he only uses one hand, katanas are still meant to be used with two. If it was a list of styles or something, he'd go under one-handed,
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>>158741204
How old is she? Is she the oldest romance option?
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>>158741204

You think the Phantom Thieves are okay with their leader banging their teacher?
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>>158741396
No idea. Tae might be the oldest, maybe the artbook will have their birthdays.
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>>158741204
Give me Toriumi, or give me death
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>>158741724
death it is then
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>>158743020
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>>158735296
I still think it's a lot stranger that the Velvet Room is around at all on 3/19, considering we got an entire scene devoted to it vanishing.

>>158731745
>The acting (futaba's) is so good I think it might be one of the best scenes in the game.

Agreed. Aoi Yuuki did an amazing job in that scene, but the writing for it is really good too. It's definitely one of my favorite scenes overall. The later Hierophant ranks build off of it really well, too.

>>158726659
>>158727945
That game over's been mentioned before (both here and among Japanese fans). Agreed that it's surprising nobody mentioned the cut-in before, though, since as far as I know it's not used anywhere else.

I wouldn't pay that scene that much mind, though. The only thing that really felt striking about it was the cut-in (because I didn't even know that one existed) and the fact the majority of it has that same hazy filter you get during the media res part when Joker is misremembering/incompletely remembering something, which is... really odd.
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>>158744998
Goro has gyno!
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>>158744910
Maybe it's because Goro is supposed to be dead at that point, lel
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>>158745274
I'm pretty sure that game over's the same regardless of whether you're past that point or not, hazy filter and all.

I can check to make sure later if need be or something, though.
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>>158744910
Maybe Joker is hallucinating the whole scene and believes Goro came back to get him? But considering Joker already beat Goro at that point, it seems weird he would hallucinate about Goro being still around.
Then again this is just a bad end, missable and non canon, I doubt it really matters. I'm more concerned the remaining cut-ins. Since this one was found only recently, I wonder if maybe we missed some others, especially considering he is supposed to have 17 cut-ins. Though I believe most of them are probably blank or something like that, but it would still be nice to know if we saw them all.
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>>158745537
Does he really have 17 cutins? Who said that?
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>>158745537
I guess Atlus was just really lazy to make a scene for if you don't make it to the deadline before goro dies and after he dies. But like you said, in the end he's just hallucinating and it's a missable non-canon scene so not like it matters.
Maybe the rest of his supposed cutins were from when he was going to be a normal coop?
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>>158744910
It's the best shit. I'm all about the dub and I'll receive it with good intentions, but it's, like, almost impossible that the VA for futaba will even get close to this performance in this scene


Hierophant is fucking savage. If google translate didn't fail me, sojiro says that the relatives that took care of her before sojiro took her in sometimes didn't even feed her, nor let her take baths/showers. They treated her like shit for supposedly being responsible for the death of her mother

I hope they deliver this properly in english, because this shit breaks your heart. For me, futaba is hardly waifu material, but more of the little sister you definitely want to protect after all of that shit (completely different from nanako)
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>>158717349
what a semen demon goddamn

I want to facefuck her until the mascara rolls down her face and my dick is covered in lipstick
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>>158745654
See
>>158715098
>>158715163
>>158715521
>>158715964

I'm 100% positive somebody said way earlier around the end of Septembre that they dug in the files and found 17 files for him in the cut-ins folder, but it seems nobody figured out how to view them
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>>158745745
This game is so fucking weird to me. Like, his coop being automatic is supposed to mean that despite everything, he still ended up bonding with Joker, right? But then he has lines indicating that he(and Sae) were going to be normal coops. He has lines lines for summoning Loki normally, too. Also some unused portraits.
I seriously wanna know what's up with all that.
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>>158745795
Her room is pretty fancy with all the computer shit and misc items like the Featherman figures, I'm glad Sojiro seemingly spoiled her. Poor kid deserved it.
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>>158745537
Hallucinating is possible, but I wouldn't put too much stock on being past Goro's boss fight having any relevance here. I'm pretty sure that game over's the same regardless of whether you've passed that point or not.

>>158745654
He's got files for 16 cut-ins in the game data (stored in USRDIR/cutin/utarc/0_main_0, his files are the CutInMain_0_09_## ones), but I don't think anyone's managed to extract them from the archives they're in so far.

The CutIn_Main_0_10_## files (there's two of those) might correspond to his armored version too, since that's the numbering used for his bustup portraits when he's using that outfit, but until someone finds a way to extract the textures for the cut-ins, there's no way to confirm that for sure.
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>>158746126
Wait, he has them for the armored version too? I seriously have not seen anyone post those.
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>>158746235
Might've been planned at one point, but ultimately scrapped. Like the grinning sprite.
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>>158746001
>But then he has lines indicating that he(and Sae) were going to be normal coops

If you mean the voice lines that were posted a while back after the singleword voice clips were posted, I'm pretty sure most (if not all) of those are used, just in unvoiced scenes like the train station encounters/most of the Leblanc conversations/a lot of the scenes in Niijima Palace.

Sae definitely has unused singleword clips that indicate she was probably a normal co-op at some point (and possibly romanceable), but Goro doesn't.
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>>158745745

They probably didn't want to make a seperate scene that only people that want to check if they account for everything would bother to get.

In order to get that you basically have to finish the dungeon, be ready for the boss, and then deliberately waste your time. There's no reason anyone would get that without being deliberate.
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>>158746328
I'm surprised the grinning sprite wasn't even used before he gave that smile/nod. Now I really wanna see these cutins, though.
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>>158745795
>>158746110
Can someone list every suffering that the PT have gone trough?
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>>158746532
>Being in Persona 5
>Being dubbed
>Having to deal with fucking Goro
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>>158746001

I'm guessing that Sae and Goro would be like Adachi in Golden or Ryoji in P3P where it's story based but you also have to rank them up a few times normally.

So for example you'd have to meet with Goro like a regular coop during the month or so he's with you, and then the rank up would finish at the end of the ship palace, otherwise the rank wouldn't finish at all.

Same with Sae. She'd only rank up to 8 or whatever in the interogation room and you'd have to finish by meeting with her a few times before the end of the game.

But they decided to just make it easy on the player and made them finish completely automatically instead.
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>>158746235
He MIGHT. Like I said, among the files for the cut-ins there's two corresponding to how his armored bustup portraits are named. Until someone manages to extract and convert the cut-in files to a viewable format, there's no way to confirm that, though.

If they ARE for his armored outfit, they're likely either unused or triggered through something really obscure, because I've seen most of the dialogue choices for his boss fight by now and none of them prompt a cut-in at any point.
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>>158746401
Who's that guy and what is he gonna do to shota Goro
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>>158746001
Probably an early concept, maybe future DLC who knows. The normal Loki summoning lines fuck me up too because, why are they there? Was he going to not have Robin Hood first? Were you going to get Loki as his ultimate if you did his (supposed) normal coop? Can you hack Loki into normal Goro? Who knows.
The unused portraits are weird too. The first 2, considering the context in where they should be used, he shouldn't be making these faces of anger/doubt. The last 2 have the infamous grinning sprite in which nobody knows in what context it was going to be used. I suppose he was going to say something after choosing the "I promise/Leave it to me" options instead of showing the cutscene where he nods.

>>158746401
He has lines for if you make coffee for him when he's around though, and the game doesn't even let you make coffee or curry for him. Also different sounding thankyous, like one where he sounds really gleeful and faggy as opposed as the ones he usually use.
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>>158746694
>Being dubbed
Poor Morgana
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>>158744910
>I still think it's a lot stranger that the Velvet Room is around at all on 3/19, considering we got an entire scene devoted to it vanishing.

That's really no big deal. 3 and 4 had a "Your contract is fulfilled and our job is done. Now farewell" scene before the protag was sent out of it too, but that didn't stop Yu from going back to it later and having further adventures in Arena and DAN. And if 3's MC didn't die, he'd have as well.

It was just for dramatic effect. It's not like Joker was going to be banned from every going back to the VR (or the VR would stop existing period) just because his current game's adventure was over, because that would be unlike every other guest of it thus far.
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>>158746941
Huh, I figured the legs belonged to teenage Goro, not some random dude
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>>158747048
The velvet room in 3 and 4 didn't dissappear though, that's what is weird.
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>>158747048
After they give you The World they fucking book it and the VR disappears lol

A few months later it reappears and lavenza is standing outside it
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>>158746987
The thing I find weird is that Goro is the only major character who has unused sprites and voicelines, right? Except for Sae, I dont think any other character has missing sprites or lines in the files, do they?
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>>158747350
well Yusuke has that super angry sprite, but other than that yeah.
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>>158745795
>Hierophant is fucking savage. If google translate didn't fail me, sojiro says that the relatives that took care of her before sojiro took her in sometimes didn't even feed her, nor let her take baths/showers. They treated her like shit for supposedly being responsible for the death of her mother

One of the main problems is a maternal uncle of Futaba's trying to get custody of her by trying to get childcare services to believe Soujirou's abusive just so he can get her inheritance, too. It's definitely one of the harsher (and IMO, one of the most notable) co-ops overall.

Rank 9 and 10 in particular are great, though. Soujirou hiding that Futaba calling him dad got him to tear up followed by pic related is probably one of my absolute favorite moments in the entire game.

>>158746987
The prince outfit version of the top right one's used, so it's possible they just made corresponding regular portraits as a "just in case" type thing but didn't end up using them. The two armor outfit ones, though... yeah, those being unused bothers me too, especially the smiling one.

>He has lines for if you make coffee for him when he's around though, and the game doesn't even let you make coffee or curry for him. Also different sounding thankyous, like one where he sounds really gleeful and faggy as opposed as the ones he usually use.

I think the thank you voice clips are all used, but the coffee lines are a good catch. Forgot those were in the files, that's really peculiar since you can't do anything around the cafe while he's there and he doesn't get hangout events like the other party members either. Unless there's some way to invite him over that we've missed? I doubt it, but who knows.
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>>158746987
>>158747597
...wait, thinking about it, I think the lower left portrait was used really briefly too. Or maybe I'm misremembering? Hell if I know.

Might as well doublecheck in a bit, since I wanted to check one of the other dialogue choices for his boss fight anyway.
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>>158747597
>nor let her take baths/showers
So she's an unwilling stinky NET afterall?
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>>158746532
>Futaba
>witnessed the death of her mother and taken in by terrible relatives who believed she was responsible who didn't feed her/let her bathe, dropped out of school and became a NEET who can barely leave her room due to being so depressed.
>would've killed herself if not for the PT

>Yusuke
>after the death of his mother taken, taken in by the crazy old guy who let his mother die(and lied about it) who also probably didn't feed him
>basically used as an art slave all his life, consistently had his work stolen and taken credit for(something that could seriously hurt his career down the line)

>Haru
>dad seemingly only cares about the company, forced his daughter into a marriage with a controlling and abusive fiance, after her dad finally admits that he does love her and wants the best for her he's killed while she watches

>Goro
>the byproduct of what was probably a one night stand from an evil politician to a mother who didn't want him, his birth sent her into a spiral of depression, probably killed herself
>spent years in a system in a country that already treats orphans/bastard children like shit
>chosen by a false god to compete in a game that was rigged for his failure from the start
>approached his father as a young impulsive teen to get him out of a scandal, probably didn't know Shidou would force him to kill
>eventually used by Shidou's other goons of to do their dirty work, probably had to carry it out or be killed
>spends years planning revenge against Shidou and suddenly the PT/Joker shows up, who he sees as the embodiment of all the love and friends he never had

I'm probably missing shit and I'm too lazy to do the rest
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>>158748425
It seems Phantom and Makoto got the best out of the cast, isn't?
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>>158748425
Anything apart from the kamoshida stuff happen to Anne?
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>>158748151
I'm sure it wasn't used. He uses the "damaged" one (when fake Goro appears for example), the "angry" one (just before he shoots the fake), and the "lost" one for lack of better term such as when he calls the PT idiots

Also there is not a single choice during that part that could make him use a new sprite, the only choice is at the end when at that point he doesn't use sprites anymore
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>>158749181
The only thing I can think of that it was gonna be used there but they just decided to use the model to give the scene more impact or something. At least it's not the malicious grin everyone thought it was from the rips.
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>>158748425
>Ryuji
>Father is a drunkard abusive asshole to him and his mom
>Father then left him and his mother, leaving Ryuji alone to take care her.
>Choose to be a Track star to support his mom, only for Kamoshida abused him and broke his legs.
>Became a school outcast as result of Kamoshida's rumors about him and disbanding the entire track team, because the asshole teacher was knocked out by Ryuji for talking badly about his family issues.

>>158748486
>Makoto
>Mother either dead or missing
>Father died of either got murdered or overworked because of his sense of 'ideal' justice
>Her sister became jaded and cynical because of the said above.
>Her sister viewed her as 'burden' because she couldn't handle the pressure.

What else?
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>>158748425
>the byproduct of what was probably a one night stand from an evil politician to a mother who didn't want him

From Goro's word choice when talking about the relationship between his parents, it sounds more like she was Shidou's mistress for a while until the pregnancy happened.

>>158749181
Like I said, I might be misremembering. I'll check again in a bit since I wanted to test something anyway.
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>>158748486
No

Makoto's father was killed because he was investigating some shady shit. Made it seem like an accident, but it was obvious it wasn't

It's not the same amount of anguish and suffering as futaba's, but she felt oppressed her whole life because she just limited to follow orders of higher-ups without having a say or a free will in the matter. She bonds with anne pretty early because they both had the same feeling when the whole kamoshida thing happened

She lives with her sister and feels like she'll never be as good as her in life because of how tied her hands were back then. Sae (while also struggling herself) went batshit for a second and called her a parasite for living with her; apologized immediately. They got no family, while sae struggles to succeed in a line of work where men dominate, and makoto just follows orders without a say in any matter. Johanna awakens and the rest is history; she's tired of people telling her what to do and will fuck up anything that stands in her way (this is almost textual lol, even the PT were scared for a moment there)

About haru

>he's killed while she watches

Not really. Goro shoots him when the PT escapes, and then he dies on TV while the PT just screws around in a festival

Without thinking it too much, the tier of "shitty lives" for the PT would be

> Futaba, Yusuke

>Pretty big power gap

> Ryuji, Makoto, Goro (fuck this guy; he had all the tools to have a great life and threw them away)

>Haru (her life didn't become shit until the whole fiancee/political position for her father started)

>Anne

>Joker
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>>158750059
>he had all the tools to have a great life and threw them away)
like what
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>>158749597

Anne was treated as an outcast because of her American genes and only had one friend. She whored herself to Kamoshita on the promise that he'd go easy on Shiho, but he was molesting Shiho on the side anyway which caused her to attempt suicide.

And Protag became a Juvy criminal/delinquent just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time and trying to do good, and Shido had the cops throw the book at him just to be an asshole.

Granted it's not as bad as Futaba and Yusuke, and Protag eventually gets almost all his problems revoked, but still.
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>>158750059
Yusuke should definitely be below Goro. Their situations are similar, but Goro has the extra bastard child stigma to deal with (and that's a big deal in a country like Japan) and unlike him he actually ends up with comrades that help keep him from turning out the same way (even though Yusuke himself acknowledges that could've happened if it hadn't been for the others).

>>158749597
IIRC Anne was treated as an outcast for being visibly foreign, and had rumors spread about her basically being a slut even though she isn't. Shiho was her only friend for a long time, and she deals with a lot of guilt over Shiho shouldering Kamoshida's abuse in her place.

There might be a bit more to her, but I haven't finished her co-op yet.
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>>158747597
>Soujirou hiding that Futaba calling him dad got him to tear up followed by pic related is probably one of my absolute favorite moments in the entire game
Good to see someone else appreciated this. After finishing 5 I think I like Sojiro a lot more than Dojima, though Dojima was still one of the best characters in 4.
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>>158750059
>he had all the tools to have a great life and threw them away
Like what?
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>>158750607
>>158750649
Anne being visibly foreign when she's like 1/129834324234 American is retarded though. They could have had her blend in and still be discriminated because of a tiny thing she couldn't even control.
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>>158750197
Like having the power to do whatever he wants

Like having that fake detective shit that got him a lot of popularity (that could've turned into affection, which he ultimately wanted)

He had the looks too

But he threw everything away in a neverending quest for revenge. It's true that he had the bad luck of not having friends like the PT (as stated by himself, with the whole "meeting you a few years early" shit), but you can fucking make your own luck with powers and influence like the ones he had
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>>158750952
Was one of her parents foreign or what? If not then why was she named Anne
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>>158748425
>spends years planning revenge against Shidou and suddenly the PT/Joker shows up, who he sees as the embodiment of all the love and friends he never had

Don't forget that after his plan was running for 2 years and he'd accepted doing horrible things for it with the payout of eventually getting to Shido, Joker shows up with even more power than him and a way to do all that in less an a year without killing anyone because he has a magical cat guide to tell him exactly how the other world works.

Goro even basically says why the hell Joker didn't show up 2 years ago, it could have saved him alot of grief and all those people would have had to die.

Oh and it then it turns out his plan never would have worked anyway because Shido was going to have him killed before he took office anyway.
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>>158751071
>Like having that fake detective shit that got him a lot of popularity
The public was fickle and never actually cared about him, they turned on him when the PT started getting more popular. Pay attention.
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Akechi's life according to 2ch

>Mum died...I'm going to take revenge on dad for abandoning mum!

>The long nosed guy gave me a Persona! I'll use this power and get close to dad! Co-op? Fusion? Who cares

>Dad is famous! I'll use this and kill him! Speaking of which, I want to become famous too!

>I got a bit caught up in all this pretending, now I'm even on TV, life is perfect, hell yeah!

>The Phantom Thieves are so annoying reeeeeee but I'll use them and become even more famous!

>I heard something about pancakes! I want some too!

>Takoyaki is too spicy

>I pretended to befriend Joker and then killed him! Now everyone will have their eyes on me!

>Crap...Joker was alive...I really need to kill him...

>あぼーん\(^o^)/
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>>158750952

Not really. Not only is it is possible in real life (my own cousin looks Indian in an entire family line of white readheads because of genes mixed in from a distant relative somewhere) but it's in actual problem in Japan where people that aren't completely 100 percent Japanese looking are treated like foregners in their own country despite being born and raised there.
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>>158751071
>Like having that fake detective shit that got him a lot of popularity (that could've turned into affection, which he ultimately wanted)
He got the detective shit by "solving" the cases of shellification he was told to do and gained popularity that way. He fucked himself up forever the moment he chose to join Shidou.
You can't simply just join what's basically a mafia and back down from it. "Oh my life is great now guess I'll stop being around this guy now and stop killing people". He'd get himself killed sooner than expected.
He basically had nothing until Yaldy gave him his powers, and if he went against Yaldy he'd probably be killed too.
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>>158751189
>Goro even basically says why the hell Joker didn't show up 2 years ago, it could have saved him alot of grief and all those people would have had to die

This makes me want to punch him in the face.
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>>58750660
Rank 9 and 10 made the Hierophant co-op go from "really good" to "one of my absolute favorites in the series," and it's mostly because of how much Soujirou warms up to you by then.

Dojima was great, but I feel like Soujirou nails the progression from mostly ambivalent caretaker to genuinely caring father figure who considers you family even better, especially if you make sure to do his co-op (even though it's one of the hardest ones to max, it definitely felt worth it). He's easily one of my favorite characters in the game, both because of his personality and the way you can see him gradually warm up to you.

>>158751071
>Like having that fake detective shit that got him a lot of popularity (that could've turned into affection, which he ultimately wanted)

The game makes it pretty clear that Goro's popularity as a detective is really fleeting, considering how quick they are to turn on him when the PT rises in popularity for a while and how easily he's forgotten later on. Plus, even when he's at the height of his personality, it's made pretty clear that most of his fanbase just cares about his looks and him being the current "good guy" of sorts, and they'd very likely turn on him if it ever came out that he's an unwanted bastard child.
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>>158750649
For starters, I'm talking about the general background before they join the PT/get their lives changed.

Yusuke wasn't given any power beforehand, and had no control of his future. He got his mother killed by the same guy that was treating him like a slave. When you get to investigate madarame, you can meet a couple of former students of his that say really bad things about how he treats his students. If it wasn't for the PT, his life (if it can be called that) was over, with absolutely no escape or second option (unlike goro)
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>>158751697
Goro didn't have his powers until around two and a half years ago either, so that doesn't really make Yusuke's situation any worse in comparison.

Madarame's abuse is pretty awful (especially with what we're told about the other students, since it's made fairly clear that Yusuke may very well have died or outright committed suicide if his situation was left unchanged), but don't forget that Goro spent most of his life in the foster system in a country notoriously awful to unwanted- and bastard children and with a serious child abuse problem too. They BOTH had awful lives, but it's likely that while Madarame exploited Yusuke's talent and neglected him to a dangerous extent at minimum, Goro was likely treated worse between the fact he got passed around from place to place and his status as an unwanted bastard child, rather than just a child whose mother died from health problems.
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>>158748425
>>158749597
>>158750059
>>158750607
>>158750649
>>158751189
>>158751240
>>158751412
>>158751667
>>158751697

I want to hug all the PT members (including Goro) and say to them that 'everything is gonna be alright and you must stay strong'.
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>>158751417
He didn't say that, all he said was "I wonder why we couldn't have met a couple years earlier?"
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>no fem mc to change goro
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>>158751208
>>158751412
>>158751667

But that's not the point. He had the power and that's what he chose to do with it. There's a thousand other ways to use those powers (let's say... for good? oh my!)

>and if he went against Yaldy he'd probably be killed too.

I know a guy that did that lol


The point is, compare Goro's background to most of the PT and how unable to do shit they were. He had such power that he could've easily been above the forces that restrained the PT members before they got any powers in the first place (which didn't turn out to be easy shit; they had to gamble their lives multiple times for this)

Of course this isn't a fact or anything, you're more than welcomed to disagree
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>>158752410
>He had the power and that's what he chose to do with it
Not really, the only reason Joker knew what to do is because he had a magical talking cat guide.
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>>158752321

That's pretty much the implication why though. He wishes he'd met the thieves when he got his power because deep down he'd rather be with them but it's too late at that point because he'd already been running his plan.
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>>158752616
The implication I got was "if we had met a few years earlier maybe we could've been friends and I wouldn't have walked down this path" which is what you said, yeah. But it makes it sound a lot less obnoxious than "why the hell did you not show up earlier those people had to die"
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>>158752410
>There's a thousand other ways to use those powers (let's say... for good? oh my!)
I dunno man, how do you make a power that is turning people into shells good?
Joker has protag armor and Morgana tells him what to do, but Goro was alone and was kid in his utmost rebellious phase.
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>>158752410
>let's say... for good?
How? He had the power to make people do berserk. The only reason the PT knew about stealing hearts is because of Morgana.
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>All of this suffering
Are P5 casts got the most shitty lives after P2 or P3 casts?
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>>158752410
But he DIDN'T have his powers until comparatively recently (two and a half years of his life vs 14-15 years of being in the system and having to do whatever was asked of him to even have a chance to have people care for him).

Then unlike Joker, he didn't have anyone like Morgana to guide him on how to use his powers in a way that wouldn't cause harm (the method the PT uses to safely reform people is pretty obtuse, and Goro outright admits there's no way he could've figured it out when Morgana tells him about it), and Yaldabaoth intentionally gave him his powers (and, more importantly, access to Loki's 暴走のいざない) because he cherry-picked him as a way to warp the masses. As long as Yaldabaoth was involved, he was always going to misuse his abilities, because Yaldabaoth WANTED him to do so and likely manipulated him (and possibly the general circumstances, given later events in the story) to ensure that.
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>>158752516
He had company. The company Goro ignored

It wasn't just a Morgana thing. Morgana actually didn't remember jackshit until the end. He was there as every other party member to help unfold the plot

The joker didn't know "what to do"; for the first half of the game (or even more) they were randomly targetting people based on who they met and what help they needed. They talked many times about quitting the whole thing, but one problem always lead to another until shit hit the fan and they were stuck with the whole PT thing
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>>158734869
>That is just weird.
Lavenza gives you the velvet key at the end too, saying that usually you get it at the beginning but your case was just all around weird with the whole fake igor thing. So getting the world a bit late isn't too weird if you think about it. It might have killed the momentum of the satanael headshots yaldaba scene if the whole thing stopped and real igor went HERE'S YOUR CARD FAGGOT GOOD JOB
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>>158753737
Morgana told the PT about stealing hearts, are you retarded? He just didn't remember who he was or where he came from.
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>>158753864
Igor appearing, giving you the world arcana and a speech right infront of Yaldy would have been hilarious
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>>158728459
>boku
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>>158753737
Morgana remembered enough to tell the team about the other world and about the method for safely reforming people (finding the treasure acting as the core of their palace, drawing the person's attention to the desire corrupting them with a calling card, then taking the treasure tied to that desire once it manifests). That's already a pretty significant difference.
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>>158753737

Morgana tells them in detail exactly how to steal Kamoshida's heart without killing him and only to reform him. They're even afraid to mess with it until he assures them he'll be ok.

If it wasn't for Morgana Joker and Ryuji and Anne probably would have killed Kamoshida after Shiho jumped and would have walked a similar path that Goro did, using their powers without care to what happens to the world because it screwed them.

Morgana (who was sent by the actual Igor) steers them on the path of justice and not vengence.
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>>158754616
Doesn't Goro even say that his sense of justice comes from a personal grudge?
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>>158752813
You do know there were people investigating the concept of palace right? How about doing some investigation yourself? (as goro, I mean). At this point I'm surprised he didn't stab the fuck out of shidou in his palace as soon as he could (then again, maybe I'm forgetting something)

There's a lot of ways he could've done something, and it doesn't matter how much time it passed before he could do anything (as in, getting his powers a couple of years before the events of the game).

Goro HAD the chance before becoming a member of the PT (2+ years, right?), the rest of the guys didn't... that's why he doesn't place that high in my list
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>>158755021
>At this point I'm surprised he didn't stab the fuck out of shidou in his palace as soon as he could
Dude Shidou's one of the most resilient bosses in the game, do you seriously think he could've taken him on alone?
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>>158754875
Yeah, he does. It's when Haru asks him about his sense of justice on 10/28, the same day he asks the PT to help him reform Sae. He even slips a bit into his real speech mannerisms, both audibly and in the text.

Anne even points out that he's similar to them in that regard (though she focuses more on him acting as he does because of an awful adult), and he sadly notes in response how they're similar comrades and wonders if that's why he thought of asking them for help. (It's part of the capture plan, of course, but given some of the oddities about the Niijima Palace scenario, I wonder if it's in part because he genuinely did want to help Sae instead of risking that he'd be ordered to take her out soon.)
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>>158755106
That's shidou after 2 years of him strenghening his palace through his vision of japan and all the influence he gained after goro did his dirty work

This is all my speculation, of course, but Shidou, 2 years before any of this shit happened, wouldn't have been this strong

It's like saying Kamoshida would've been that strong even before having been an olympic medalist
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>>158751667
Why is it so hard to max out is Social Link?
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>>158755021
>Goro HAD the chance before becoming a member of the PT
the PT didn't exist 2 years before? the reason they're called the PT is because they steal hearts, something they had explained to them, in detail, something goro said he wouldn't had figured it out had it not been explained to him as well(by morgana, no less).
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>>158753674
Maybe she's a little taller.
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>>158755391

Sae ends up one of the few in her department not shadow killed likely as far as Goro knew her palace had been reformed and he couldn't access her heart anymore.

So maybe he deliberately wanted Sae targeted so no matter what Shido couldn't make him kill her.
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>>158755483
He had the chance to do something

There were investigators (who he kinda killed) that were aware of the existence of the Palace. Of course this will all sound like bad fan fiction when you make me put it this way, but not thinking on-rails can make you come up with very different approaches to this
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>>158755021
>You do know there were people investigating the concept of palace right? How about doing some investigation yourself? (as goro, I mean).

He knew he could interact with shadows for information, and he knew you could berserk a shadow or kill it to affect their real-world counterpart. There's no reason to suspect there's a way to do anything else with them, and like you've been told multiple time, the reformation method is obtuse and not something anyone would've figured out without Morgana.

>At this point I'm surprised he didn't stab the fuck out of shidou in his palace as soon as he could (then again, maybe I'm forgetting something)

Shadow Shidou's one of the most durable and dangerous bosses in the game. Even if you assume he was weaker before Shidou had full access to Wakaba's research, he was probably still a serious threat, especially to someone who at that point would've only recently gotten their powers.

Goro definitely knew how to get into Shidou's palace, but I really doubt he was able to deal with Shidou's shadow by himself, even before he got his hands on Wakaba's research for good. If what Soujirou mentions about him is any indication, Shidou's always been dangerous, and that likely extended to his shadow.

>There's a lot of ways he could've done something
Like what? You keep saying this, but everything you've suggested so far hasn't actually been viable, or at least is pretty questionable given what we know.
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>>158756005
He could've done what? None of what you've said has been seemingly do-able. Gone against Shidou and gotten himself killed? Are you forgetting that his life is threatened the moment he's not 100% on board with killing the entire PT immediately?

He's not the good boy dindu noffin like you faggots think some people think, but, he's as much as a perpetrator as he is a victim. The game acknowledges this.
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>>158755429
You get progress blocked thrice (once until you make coffee at Leblanc, once for story reasons, a third time for a Mementos mission), you need to max Kindness to be able to get past rank 6, and for some reason you need an unusually large amount of points for several of the earlier ranks.

It takes a while to get Soujirou to 10 because of that, but his co-op is definitely worth it. The curry- and coffee items you learn to make as you progress through it are really useful, too.
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>>158756367
>once for story reasons
This is when you reach rank 4 right? Because you need to meet Futaba. I haven't been able to get Sojiro further than 4 (on may).
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>>158756367
I guess I'll try and get him in NG+.
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Really the only thing Goro could have done otherwise was keep his grudge in check and not approach Shido in the first place, instead just combing the other world for info and waiting to see what happened.

He gave into killing and messing with people a bit too easily, likely because he didn't have much love for the world and society, but besides that he really had no other options.
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>>158756532
Yeah, Futaba needs to be around before you can trigger the rank 5 event, so that one's unavailable until you finish the pyramid palace.

>>158756545
Go for it. It's a really good co-op, story-wise.
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>>158756350
Source on this?
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>>158756548
He probably would've been killed himself if he hadn't, but, yeah his first mistake was approaching Shidou. But, he had to have been 14-15 at the time, young teenagers don't exactly make good decisions.
I doubt he thought that Shidou was going to force him to kill, at any rate.
>>158756728
shinn_ueno
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>>158756728
@shinn_ueno
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>>158756020
>He knew he could interact with shadows for information
Oh, okay... I guess we can leave it at that and not even worry about getting information out of shadows if I were to do something good

>>158756020
>There's no reason to suspect there's a way to do anything else with them
Read Above

>Shadow Shidou's one of the most durable and dangerous bosses in the game. Even if you assume he was weaker before Shidou had full access to Wakaba's research, he was probably still a serious threat,

I do not agree with this

>especially to someone who at that point would've only recently gotten their powers.

But this is a good point

>Like what? You keep saying this, but everything you've suggested so far hasn't actually been viable, or at least is pretty questionable given what we know.

What we know ISN'T what it could've been. Of course everyone (including myself as I'd type it) would laugh at any sort of retarded fan fic about him actually putting some effort into figuring out how to do good instead of becoming a killing machine in order to strenghten the influence of the person he ultimately wanted to kill

As long as I know this mofo could've at least TRIED to do something with his newly gained powers, I refuse to put it higher on the tier list of the people who suffered more (which was the whole point of this chain of messages)

Let me just get back to this one real quick

>Shidou's always been dangerous, and that likely extended to his shadow.

He could've been less dangerous if dude wasn't on a killing spree granting his father even more power


He ended up having fucking loki, cerberus and what'shisface. It's not like he couldn't have gotten more powerful behind the scenes and then strike

I'm wasting my keyboard on this shit. You're more than welcome to refute/believe/argue about any of this stuff, but I refuse to acknowledge than this was a case of a helpless puppy who was forced to kill and become a baddy
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>>158756823
>I doubt he thought that Shidou was going to force him to kill, at any rate.

He approached him about killing the guy that was causing him trouble in the first place. And he had to have experimented with someone else before that to know what would happen.

Granted he probably didn't expect the body count to become quite that high, but Goro still rather easily became fine with the idea of murdering people for his goals.
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>>158757075
>I refuse to acknowledge than this was a case of a helpless puppy who was forced to kill and become a baddy
what did he mean by this?
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>>158755897
That's my suspicion too. It adds up with what he says in the cutscene on 10/28 (he does say that reforming her is also for the sake of protecting her, since with her being the person in charge of the PT investigation, if she found out about the real culprit, there's a high chance she'd be targeted for shellification both for that and to pin the blame on the PT), and they did make it a point to show before that (especially in that scene with the PID chief on 10/13) that the conspiracy was targeting her.
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>>158757075
>this was a case of a helpless puppy who was forced to kill and become a baddy
Who the fuck says this? He's a victim as well as a perpetrator. Stop acting like you're incapable of any sort of nuanced thought.
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>>158757075

You know that's actually a good point. Goro could control the shadows. He has a Cu Culain and Cerberus assist him in the battle (and can even power them up) and is implied to be the reason the shadows start surging up in Sae's palace which is why Joker had to decoy and get caught.

Why couldn't he just attack Shido with an army of shadows?
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>>158757075
Cerb and Cuchu weren't personas, they were just random shadows.
>but I refuse to acknowledge than this was a case of a helpless puppy who was forced to kill and become a baddy
If you're implying a "stop thinking goro dindu nuffin" here, you're wrong. Goro did everything wrong, everything he did is a fuckup on his part for trying to help Shidou and that bite him back.
Technically speaking, he was forced to kill yes but he also didn't really care about killing people for his goal.
Basically what >>158756193 said
He's a perpetrator and also a victim. It's not hard to understand.
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>>158757214
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>>158757376
>and they did make it a point to show before that (especially in that scene with the PID chief on 10/13) that the conspiracy was targeting her.

They were targeting her as far as making her job difficult (and encouraging her to give into the corruption of the system and ignore the rules to get herself ahead) so she'd be stressed enough to make a palace at the government building, the best place to catch the thieves.

Whether they planned on shelling her or not (or if taking her heart was always part of the plan or just something Goro threw in) after that though is unknown.
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>>158757383
That's why he was in the middle of my tier list. Some suggested he should've been higher, hence this whole conversation

>>158757390
People are gonna say his 15yo self wouldn't be capable of plotting this (but he WAS capable of plotting a 2+year plan of constant murder while becoming a fake detective). Even fucking Ken had better ideas

It should've been obvious for a 15yo boy that he wasn't strong enough in the palace at the time. Becoming stronger and facing the person that ruined my life? Nope, better join him, make him stronger and go full psycho

I don't wanna talk shit guys but sorry, I don't agree with any of this
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>>158730548
she probably heard the rumors about him. Or Kamoshida said he would do anal if she talked to him again.
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>>158757459
Refer to this

>That's why he was in the middle of my tier list. Some suggested he should've been higher, hence this whole conversation

He brought it on himself. I can't feel sympathy for someone who (possibly) didn't try to look for alternatives, no matter how impossible (i.e. cliche) it may have been
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>>158730548
What does that nip letter even mean. Like a sarcastic "hi" or something?
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>>158758032
You can't exactly look for alternatives if there aren't any.
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>tfw I'm cute
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>>158757854

No. The answer is because Goro didn't just want to kill him. He wanted him to have his dreams realized and then rip it away from him by publically ruining him, and telling him to his face that it was the son he threw away that did it.

Which would then ruin the polticial system that had screwed him his whole life, since the entire country would have realized they were so easily played.

He wanted complete revenge, not just Shido dying.

Of course this wouldn't have worked. But he didn't know that.
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>tfw I'm cute but autistic
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>>158758427
yusuke?
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>>158757167
He explicitly says that he berserked the guys involved that time, no killing here.

>>158757075
>and not even worry about getting information out of shadows

He did, though? At least to get information to out certain corrupt individuals.

>this mofo could've at least TRIED to do something with his newly gained powers, I refuse to put it higher on the tier list of the people who suffered more

Oh come on, now. Getting his powers earlier and then not using them purely for good doesn't suddenly negate that his life leading up to that point's been as bad as or worse than most of the others'.

>He could've been less dangerous if dude wasn't on a killing spree granting his father even more power

He didn't start killing until Shidou manipulated him into doing so.

>He ended up having fucking loki, cerberus and what'shisface.

Goro only has Loki and Robin Hood. Cerberus and Cu Chulainn were just shadows he could call on in Shidou's palace the same way the yakuza guy could call on Baphomet shadows.

>but I refuse to acknowledge than this was a case of a helpless puppy who was forced to kill and become a baddy

Nobody's saying that. He's not helpless or a puppy, but Goro's life was shit even before he got his powers, he didn't start seriously misusing his powers until Shidou manipulated him into doing so after the initial scandal incident he approached him about (and at that point it was probably too late for him to backpedal, since Shidou's well-established as someone who has people who go against him killed and already had connections at that point), and he didn't have someone like Morgana to help him figure out the correct/safe way to use the palace to reform people instead of rendering them catatonic, berserking them or killing them.
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>>158758032
Yeah the tier list is subjective but when it comes to as if Goro had alternatives or not it's debatable.
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>>158758746
I don't know if this guy knows just how badly Japan treats orphans
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>>158758746
That guy's hateboner is clouding his judgment on the fact that Goro was unwanted from the day he was born and was placed into a shitty foster system. The poor kid is a product of his raising, and unfortunately he became a perpetrator along the way.

>>158758960
It's obvious that he doesn't.
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>>158757762
Yeah, but it definitely makes his concerns about her being a possible target for shellification if she keeps looking into things more plausible.

>>158757390
I don't think he actually had control over the shadows so much as that he's able to make use of his cognitive counterparts' abilities to call on other shadows while in that palace, because of the authority the palace's master attributes to him (like how the yakuza guy's cognitive version could call on Baphomet shadows).

Sae's palace apparently had a cognitive version of Goro (we don't see him on-screen, but Futaba mentions him in her explanation of how the party set up the fake death trick), and we saw the one in Shidou's palace outright summon the same types of shadows as Goro did just before that.
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>>158759017
http://japandailypress.com/japans-forgotten-children-113905/
tfw
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>>158758746
>Oh come on, now. Getting his powers earlier and then not using them purely for good doesn't suddenly negate that his life leading up to that point's been as bad as or worse than most of the others'.

I agree, but he had the chance of doing something and in the end he didn't, so he lost a lot of points for me there

>He didn't start killing until Shidou manipulated him into doing so.

Yes, that's what I said. He approached him and then started killing, granting him more power (resulting in him being more powerful as a person and all that)

>Goro only has Loki and Robin Hood. Cerberus and Cu Chulainn were just shadows he could call on in Shidou's palace the same way the yakuza guy could call on Baphomet shadows.

This is just technicalities. I don't wanna go into what's canon and what's not for powerlevels for an in-game mechanic. Let's just say he, at that point, was powerful enough to control those types of shadows

>Nobody's saying that. He's not helpless or a puppy, but Goro's life was shit even before he got his powers, he didn't start seriously misusing his powers until Shidou manipulated him into doing so after the initial scandal incident he approached him about (and at that point it was probably too late for him to backpedal, since Shidou's well-established as someone who has people who go against him killed and already had connections at that point), and he didn't have someone like Morgana to help him figure out the correct/safe way to use the palace to reform people instead of rendering them catatonic, berserking them or killing them.

Jesus lol; I've already told you all that I agree with that. He was in the middle of the list because FOR ME, misusing his powers and going straight for the super plot for revenge made him lose a lot of points in my book
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>>158759203
>Abortions for everyone!
>tfw I was born before adoption was legal in Japan
>"We don't care because we don't like change."
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>>158759445
Doing what? You still haven't mentioned anything that would've actually been viable, anon.

>He approached him and then started killing, granting him more power (resulting in him being more powerful as a person and all that)

Only because Shidou manipulated him into doing so. With Shidou being the type to off people for going against him, it's really debatable how much say he had in that.

>Let's just say he, at that point, was powerful enough to control those types of shadows

That's extremely debatable. It's more likely that him being able to call on Cerberus and Cu was tied to Shidou's palace having a cognitive version of him that was able to do so.

>He was in the middle of the list because FOR ME, misusing his powers and going straight for the super plot for revenge made him lose a lot of points in my book

How does that negate that his life up to that point was already worse than at least one person you listed above him, though? You were tiering people on how shitty their lives were, not how moral or not their actions are.
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>>158759445
Power levels vs in game mechanics are pretty relevant, considering that a dinky cognitive existence and like 5 shadows was enough to make him sacrifice himself for the PT.
But you keep saying "b-but he could've done something!" when nothing you've said has been actually viable.
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>>158759445
>misusing his powers and going straight for the super plot for revenge made him lose a lot of points in my book

This honestly isn't the first time a Persona character did this. And that hardly doesn't change the fact that Goro probably had the shittiest life. We're not talking about the morality, we're talking about suffering and hardships.
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How many times have we had this same discussion? This is gonna be worse come February.
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was there a new thread i just skipped over all the "goro was a good boy dindu nuffin"
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>>158759862
>Power levels vs in game mechanics are pretty relevant, considering that a dinky cognitive existence and like 5 shadows was enough to make him sacrifice himself for the PT.
After getting his ass handed to him twice

>But you keep saying "b-but he could've done something!" when nothing you've said has been actually viable.
Grow strong and then face shidou

Somehow get involved in the investigations of the Palace and try to find out how it properly works. A magical cat outright telling you how it works shouldn't be the only way to find the answer

If he wanted to take 2 years to elaborate a plan to rise the dude up to the top of the pyramid and then see him suffer and die, then that's a pretty masochistic (and very thoughtful) way to plan things

Just for comparison, Futaba had it worse and I didn't notice any bloodlust, not before, not after she got her powers

She didn't get fed, she didn't get to shower, she, in the eyes of many people (including her relatives) was pure shit and almost the direct cause of wakaba's death. The only thing she wanted to do before-PT was to have her heart changed, otherwise she'd kill herself

If Yusuke didn't have it worse, is because he wasn't really aware of the truth behind madarame and her mother.
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>>158760269
I think this is at least the third or fourth time now.

I'm really not looking forward to finding out how much worse these discussions will get once the localization's out and we have more people who understand the game but lack the cultural context for things like Japan's attitude about adoptive- and bastard children.
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>>158760880
time to find a gf and leave /pg/ once and for all
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>>158760880
Can't wait for more tublrites to come
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