/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

I am fond of pigs

>>158597948
I am fond of barefooted riflemen

>>158598000
I am fond of my wifes son
t. Coal Miner

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I am fond of Gorgo

bolt actions speak louder than pigs

>>158598000
think they can get wifi on the kilimanjaro?

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Anyone here play Civ like they're NTR? I setup a game with only 3 civs: myself, Gilgamesh, and Cleo. I build up my capital a little bit and then setup an auto-hotkey script to click next turn endlessly. I then leave my room and sit outside it for a few hours while the game plays. If I come back into the room and the game is still going I mumble a few apologies and excuse myself again. I've thought about knocking on the door before I enter but I don't want the noise to potentially disturb them. A few times my mom has asked why I sit outside the door of my room and I tell her each time "It's my new meta" (she has no idea what that means).

Is there a way to help with the constant desyncs in civ 6?

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I am fond of Cleo!

No man ever wetted pigs and then left it, as if there would be tiger traps by chance and fortune.

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>>158598094

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>AI sends an army of apostles
>to convert jerusalem

>>158598173
Do you think she can operate a GPS?
I love watching my grandmothers coalminer try

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I am fond of Tomy

>>158598276
>shi will never fuck you with hir horsecock

https://www.reddit.com/r/civ/comments/59phzk/game_breaking_exploit_no_seriously_it_is_free/

So apparently buying an armada/army of units then selling them can turn a profit.

Anyone confirm?

AI would be terrifying if they actually used nukes

>OP is the VGL logo
So when are you guys signing up?

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>>158598274

>>158598504
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//civ4xg/

what a shit roster

>Teddy declared a colonial war on me
>His horsemen throw themselves to their deaths against my muskets

el oh el

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Any place to get mods for 1.3 stellaris that is not steam?

>>158598459
Top fucking kek.

There's also supposedly an exploit where if you chop rush something that's eligible for a production boost (like the +100% production to whatever era naval units policy) the production overflow gets boosted not once but twice. Some guy on CivFanatics said he built a spaceport in 1 turn with that gem.

I swear science victory is fucking impossible in this game. The projects take 5 god damned years to finish, I literally always lose to religious faggots after I've been building a Mars rover or some shit since 1570.

>>158598661
Peace lasted 1 year before they decided to sneak attack.

Anyone know if GP's can be killed or captured in Civ 6?

>>158598713
Great scientists my friend

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SEND HELP

>>158598847
what did he mean by this
i get every great scientist in the game
and usually get the 20% space project great engi

>>158598504
>VGL logo
iirc anon who made the flag didn't create it for the VGL, I remember him asking feedback about his flag in here.

I only faintly remember it though, maybe it was for the vgl.

>>158598713
>tfw turned off all other victory options so I could get it for the achievement, and never again

>>158598963
i just finished a deity game with science victory and the only production boost i had was 20% from an engineer and the 15% policy card.

You just gotta stack industrial zones a bit. A spaceport took me 20 turns to build and the projects took between 10 to 20 turns.

>>158598876
just use your scout to counter theirs , garrison the slinger and kill them as they come

From the old thread. (About Civ 6 ui formatting)

Does anyone else have a problem with the formatting of the Interface? The list of reasons why the leader is friendly/unfriendly is tiny and i have to scroll A LOT to get to the end. I really only can see one or two lines at the same time. Anyone knows how to fix this?

Someone pls help, this is driving me crazy.

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>>158598669
pls

When the game recommend me to create my city where there is a luxury ressource should I do it? Will I have it anyway or will it disappear?

>>158598058

She has kind of that strong MILF Sex appeal. Like the mom from Malcom in the Middle.

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so how do you play your games lads? I've only dipped my toes so I can't form any concrete strat.

The game's housing limitation feels like you can't go high or am I just misusing it? Also, how do you manage districts? Do you specialize cities or as much as possible? Since you can't really just build farms otherwise not enough housing.

And what happens when happine- amenities go too low in a city? Do your subjects chimp out?

Anyone here know where I can find the non-changing music for each civ? The stuff that doesn't change throughout the eras, I think it only plays on diplomacy screens.

How do you guys seige information age cities, their defenses are ridiculous.

>>158600362

Planes

>>158600362
It's funny, in one game i kept a siege tower around forever. It never stopped working. Mechanized infantry ignoring walls us retarded.

>>158599476
Maybe you should ask the birthday skeleton.
I take it nobody's updated skymods or whatever the russian one is?

What's the straight up ultimate mod packs for Civilization V these days? Would like to give V a one last play and take it to the most that will ever be made of it. Must be some total conversions by now with neat shit like random events and grand strategy style statecraft for late game right?

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>playing Germany
>found Catholicism for my >HRE
>happen to meet Trajan
>conquer Rome for my H>RE
>but before I could get there he founded Hinduism
>meet Philip
>he greets me with a wave of missionaries
>for Protestantism
>now can't produce Catholic missionaries and even my holy city is now only pantheon
>my glorious true faith has been torn down by foreign heretics
NO THIS IS ALL WRONG

The flavor quote for Nanotech was from some 'author' in his 20's who is so unknown he doesn't even have a Wikipedia page. And it was some drivel like "hurr it makes good things gooder and bad things badder".

Is he fucking one of the devs or something? They could have used a Feynman quote like always room at the bottom or some line from The Diamond Age. Instead we get this loser. What gives?

>>158600430
I thought bombers can only drop nukes for the longest time.

>>158600532
just like the real germany

>>158599924
You'll get the resource, you just won't get the production/gold/food bonus you'd usually get for working the tile. Basically you should only do it if it's a really good spot.

>>158600460

Yeah I saw you post about that.

I've got about 5 siege towers that I'm holding in reserve

>>158600520
Nope, nothing like that. Also
>grand strat style statecraft
I lol'd. Feel free to give a concrete example of what you mean, this'll be good for a laugh.

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>>158598173
But is she fond of you?

Has anyone played Endless Space? How is it?

>>158601005
I was browsing for mods for a similar reason recently and saw some mod that was supposed to have that, but I didn't bother

http://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/sukritacts-events-and-decisions.528549/

No idea if it's any good

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>>158601031
Ra be praised.

>>158601076
1 or 2?

Haven't played 2 yet, 1 is kind of neat at first but it gets pretty boring. I did play it when it was new, maybe it got better with patches and DLC/mods, I don't know.

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Shitter here, whats the difference between Online game speed and Quick game speed

>>158601334
2x

>>158601334
Some amount of speed

>>158597871
encampments are the best feature in this game imo

just having another city-like bombardment that i can place on the enemy's border is comfy as fuck

Why don't spies have their own district? It feels like they were added to the game in the last minute or something

>>158601576
Why can't I leave a defensive spy unattended? Why the fuck would I ever need to refresh them?

>>158601576
>Why don't secret agents have their own section of the city?
Think about that one anon

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>this is India's late game capital on emperor
>all those unimproved tiles
nice game lads

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>>158601496
>tfw playing as Greece and there's a mountain range protecting half of your empire, and there's a single tile gap in the mountains where you place an encampment

>>158600049
>or as much as possible
or place as much as possible*

>>158601005
Probably put it a dumb way sure. I meant something that builds onto the ideas of borders, diplomacy, wars for defined and limited purposes. Civ V always felt like it degenerated to pressing next turn until the screen for your chosen kind of victory pops up where in reality the latter stages should be the most intricate mechanically but it never really gets past what is basically feudal kingdoms quarreling with each other for profit, just with modern unit skins.

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>>158601031
Legend of Opala mod when?

>>158601221
Didn't even know there was a sequel. I want to play a space game, and everyone says Stellaris has pretty bad AI... and the graphics of SMAC really bother me.

Can someone explain to me how I'm leading in science if I've built exactly 0 campus?

>>158602026
Those games fucking sucked

>>158602241
The vast amounts of porn are great though.

>>158602081
Endless Space was Amplitude's first real attempt at 4X and it shows. Endless Legend was a vast improvement but with a fantasy setting, and ES2 is a further refinement, but is only in Early Access.

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Anyone know where I can pirate the Leviathans dlc?

>pic unrelated

>>158602081
The sequel is currently in early access. People are generally positive but I haven't really read much about it (though the 4x game they did in the meantime, Endless Legend, is pretty good, so they're probably learning)

Stellaris is okay for a while, but it gets boring. I enjoyed the hours I put into it, but it's been a while and I have absolutely no will to try it, even after patches and DLC.

WHY DO SIEGE TOWERS NEVER STOP WORKING

AM I ROLLING UP MY 4000 YEAR OLD WOODEN TOWER SO MY TANKS CAN DO SICK RAMP OFFS INTO THE CITY LIMITS?
WHY ARE MY MARINES TRAINED IN THE OPERATION OF A CAPPED RAM

FIRAXIS PLEASE

>>158602968
so that the horsemen and warrior hordes the AI never evolves past can remain relevant too :^)

>>158600049
Housing becomes a non-issue as soon as you get Neighbourhoods. Then, amenity (and eventually food) will stop your growth.
And yes, if amenity gets too low, a bunch of angry barbs will spawn all around your city.

Honestly, I still haven't worked out a single strategy either. I'm trying to shit out 2-3 settlers as fast as possible in the early game and then focus on building up those cities, but that's about it.

>>158601838
I like the reasoning behind builder charges, but it does lead to this problem.

In my Rome game on Deity when I was approaching victory I noticed I still had an unimproved Rainforest tile adjacent to Rome's city center. Builders simply fall by the wayside a bit when you're trying to get other shit online first.

>>158601496
>Great General points which can translate into free units on the go
>Production bonus from buildings
>Extra set of walls

Encampments are great

>>158599171
I mean my industrial zones had everything including power plants and wasn't fast enough.

>>1586014>>158603259
dont forget early housing. Super important

>>158603339
There's a Great Scientist which doubles Space Race production.

>>158598173
She is the perfect woman in my game now.

Turn n+1
>Oh you're so strong
Turn n+2
I am afraid of your armies [since we border each other]
Turn n+3
Your army is weak
Turn n+4
You have such a strong army

>a barbarian unit on turn 0 on literal spawning screen before any moves

noice

>>158603120
I haven't gotten too much into it but my early strategy is slowly starting to revolve around getting an encampment and a small force of Archers, then just spewing settlers as much as I can whilst rolling barbarians.

Depending on the map it can be worth it to just knock over City States with them too

>>158603120
>And yes, if amenity gets too low
How low is too low? -2? -4?

>>158603120
My early game strategy is quickly becoming going all in military and busting some fucking heads while warmonger penalties are non-existant. Maybe steal a city, a settler if you're lucky, raze everything in sight for free gold/sci/faith, etc. Then sue for peace and rake in tons of cash from the AI, and use it to quickly shit out a bunch of settlers and buy/build whatever infrastructure you can. Tada, instant empire.

>>158603339
then you didnt place them in a way to maximize their aoe effect. The later industrial zone buildings apply their production to every city within 6 tiles.

A city being affected by one industrial zone full of buildings is going to be MUCH slower than a city being affected by 4 zones.

Who's your favorite civ so far.

Monty is great. Trajan with Great Zimbabwe is insane.

Going for Japan now, how should I play it?

>>158603778
China is my favorite civ, but Cleopatra is my favorite waifu. Trajan has probably been the biggest cunt in my games so far which is weird because Rome is usually bro-tier in Civilization.

>>158603778

Freddy is OP once you get factories on your Hansas

>>158603778
I'm really enjoying Russia.

Tundra seems to be everywhere, so the production is crazy. The extra landgrab means I get to fuck over my neighbors with forward settling.

>>158603778
Japan's probably best for a culture victory, that was the first game I won. Here's what I wanted to do:
>Get a religion with the belief that lets you buy science/culture buildings with faith
>Get a fuckton of faith generation
>Settle as many cities as possible, don't bother looking for good spots
>Build a holy site and culture district in each one - Japan builds them twice as fast so bad production isn't much of a problem
>Cluster them all together to take advantage of Japan's extra adjacency bonus

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How many would you build?

>>158604227
>Freddy is OP once you get factories on your Hansas
How do you mean? Did I miss something? I thought Hansa gives only a bit more bonus to the zone.

>>158604695
I'm thinking just two and then exploring and settling all over the world.

>>158604695
would settling on the two food grasslands in the middle of all the rice count as settling near a river? Or do you have to be next to a river rather at the source of it

Where the fuck is temple ?
i want to build Watt and it said require temple. i dont see it in tech tree

>>158604557
This same approach can be used for Religious, you can spew disgusting amounts of Apostles.

>>158605237
It wouldn't you have to be on the coast. I will probably just settle there and explore for more islands.

>>158605237
Annoyingly you have to be next to it. At least there is space for an aqueduct.

>>158604695
The way this game, and Japan, works I would strongly consider a third city but I don't know if my brain would allow me to.

>>158605495
>Annoyingly you have to be next to it.
thanks senpai

So, science costs. Do they go up as you found more cities? Or down as other civs research them? Or is there literally no downside to going full ICS and building campuses everywhere?

>>158604695
5

>>158605495
>The way this game, and Japan, works I would strongly consider a third city but I don't know if my brain would allow me to.

I know mate, the rice on the north peninsula and the horses wouldn't be used by the second city around the rice. Plus id miss out on some sea resources... But then again, If i find more islands near by, ill leave it at two cities on this island.

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>>158602026
Only if Farah is the leader.

I posted this in the last thread and didn't get any replies. Is there any reason why your gold per turn on the top bar would read the wrong number? It says that I should have almost +400 per turn and I find that ever turn I take the number that actually gets added to the treasury is smaller and smaller. At this point I'm getting less than 40 gold per turn even though the number stated for net gold per turn hasn't changed at all.

HUGE WORLD MAP WHEN?!

>>158605760
The coalminer's wife gets a cut. After all, who deserves it more?

>>158605293
it's a civic. It's under mysticism or some other religious sounding civic

>>158603778
Japan, Gorgo's Greece or Trajan so far.

It's insane how quickly you can rocket down the culture tree with Gorgo.

>>158605095
pls respond

>>158605917
>>158605293
Theology

>>158605095
You can get 4 cities worth of commerce districts plopped in there, which the regular industrial districts don't get extra bonuses from

>>158605760
You get less because of trade and remember that no village was every ruined by trade.

>>158602081
Gal civ 2 exists. 3 exsts too but noone explained why to me as of yet.

>>158605647
Even if science went up with more cities, because none of the buildings give % boosts (therefore boosting your pop base science) it's always better to go wide and spam campuses.

The only exception (I think) is the wonder oxford University, which gives a 20% boost to science in 1 city. Its the only time you could go tall. Additionally many eureka moments (which are seriously OP, always go for them) require more cities (build 2 districts etc.)

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Does this make sense or am I retarded?

>>158605760
You're getting siphoned

>>158602081
>I want to play a space game, and everyone says Stellaris has pretty bad AI... and the graphics of SMAC really bother me.
try Master of Orion 2 and never look back

AI on Impossible will give you a run for your money and contrary to SMAC the graphics still hold up today imo.

>settle on literally snow with some hills/trees
>make a trade route from the city to my capital
>it's still a pretty okay city

thanks communism

>>158606828
>planning neighborhoods on turn 28

And move the industrial zones 2 tiles to the right of kyoto, will receive (5? cant tell if they are all hils) adjacency bonuses and be closer to your other cities.

>>158600656

The person they hired to write the Civilopedia is a memester. The unit descriptions for EVERY unit are basically 5's only with le wacky sarcasm added in between the lines that reads like a newfag editing a Wikipedia page. The only thing he DIDN'T completely ruin was the cavalry description by virtue of remembering that cavalry existed during WWII.

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>Start on an uncontested island

>>158606828
Encampment is a defensive frontline, what are you gonna be defending from there? amphibious landings? Industrial zone is too close to the city, as they benefit more than one city you should always strive to have them bunched up in the center of your future empire so snuggle it above holisite/campus. Commercial is too far, it will be plundered by barbs, move it above the other two. Otherwise, decent setup.

>>158607220
More like boring

>>158597871
Doesnt the OP being really really messy bother you guys?

Don't you want to clean it up a little bit?

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>a defensive pact being activated by someone declaring war on my ally counts as a surprise war
>everyone denounces me

i'm their ally
there is no "surprise" here

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rate city spots

>>158607539
>not using in-game pings
Why

>>158606184
But the anon mentioned factories + Hansa
As far as I know the 6 tile spread from factories is in regards only to the factory production, not the whole district production, right?

>>158607641
>not always training your paint-fu

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>>158607641

>>158607713
I the he meant that district spam is great, since first district is always Ind/Hansa, it's nice to have a good followup with commercial districts.Even if it's not spreading around it's still good.

>>158606707
3 has multiplayer which almost noone plays , thats about it

>>158602968

The unit lineup at the moment is hideously incomplete, even though it'd be possible to properly space up unit transitions using almost nothing but previous game units.

My two cents:

>Light cavalry line: Horseman, Hussar, Cavalry, Gunship
>Heavy cavalry line: Heavy Chariot, Knight, Lancer, Landship, Tank, Modern Armor
>Ranged cavalry line: Chariot Archer, Horse Archer, Dragoon, Light Tank, Mobile Gun System
>Heavy (Counter) Infantry Line: Spearman, Pikeman, Grenadier, Anti-Tank, Modern Anti-Tank
>Light Infantry Line: Warrior, Swordsman, Longswordsman, Musketman, Rifleman, Infantry, Mechanized Infantry
>Melee Siege Line: Battering Ram, Siege Tower, Bulldozer
>Bomber Line: Airship, Bomber, Jet Bomber, Stealth Bomber
>Fighter Line: Biplane, Fighter, Jet Fighter, Stealth Fighter

>>158607886
You can probably fit 2-3 more cities in there, given that it's uncontested land, why not?

>>158607947
Didn't 2 had MP aswell? It's all round better game, the only advantages 3 has is building adjacency and hexes, neither of which makes it competitive with post twilight 2

>>158608085
>You can probably fit 2-3 more cities in there, given that it's uncontested land, why not?

Pls share where. I could stack districts to use Japan's boost to them

>>158607971
I think part of the reason was to cut down on units being obsolete by the time they reach the enemy's cities. Fewer units and a slightly less runaway tech tree.

My only annoyance is how the unit upgrades are staggered, especially with how you can focus down techs and be launching Space Rockets without even having Sailing. It means you'll be seeing cavalry running alongside your tanks for quite awhile because they don't upgrade until helicopters.

>>158607220
>>158607283
>go germany on fractal map
>start on own fucking continent with high production capital
>pop down 16 cities ICS style
>hansa in every single one of them

AI patch when?

>>158606828
>>158606828
Definitely switch the Commerce and Neighbourhood zones. Neighbourhoods fucking love cliffs, but they do nothing for commerce.

Also, since you're Japan you might also want to put the Encampment between the Industrial and Harbour for extra adjacency bonuses (or anything else really, entertainment, etc).

The only downsides I can see to all of this is you won't be able to grab too many of the restricted wonders, but that's not usually a huge deal.

>>158608409
Never, they made a perfect AI women >>158603489

>>158608409
This is the same cunty AI we've been dealing with since Civ2. The only thing that changes is fancy new windows and graphs to show us why they are being a cunt that particular day.

>>158606880
Did the MOO2 remake ever get fixed up? I remember playing a beta of it that was breddygood.

>>158608604
it's released but everything I've seen about it made me want to puke my guts out

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>>158608345

Cavalry operating alongside tanks makes sense historically because they only stopped being a thing around the 40s. What doesn't make sense is the insane gap between knights and tanks and musketmen/pikemen to infantry/anti-tanks.

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Blue=Hills+Forts.
Will bring down the mountains outside my fort line later on so attackers won't get any defensive bonuses.

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>>158608194
I can do 7 but it would involve at leas one city reliant on gold to boost borders to 3 asap.

>>158608850
Tell us more.

>>158608930
>Tell us more.
The best thing to be said about it is that the gameplay is basically identical.

It manages to look worse however which is quite a feat.

>>158609180
That is quite unusual for a remake heh.

Is there a way of switching tile ownership between two cities? I have my capital which has expanded onto an unworkable tile but is workable by another city but I can't access it on the that city. I remember in Civ V there was the ability to do so is it still around just hidden in the UI or has it been removed?

>>158609317
oh yeah also combat is now real time rather than turn based

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>>158608930
This would probably work even better.

>>158609418
There should be a "swap button" when you go into worker veiw of the city that you want to tak control, control zones and borders must be contiguous.

>CDN$ 79.99 for Civ6
is it at least better than Civ5 already?

i was never satisfied with Civ5 even after all the DLC

How much of a boost is Japan's unique trait for districts? Is it worth more to plop an industrial district next to other districts compared to mines?

>haven't displayed any sort of hostility towards anyone else
>Teddy still hates me immediately

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>158609576
I will go for 4 cities in the west and around the Dead Sea. City 1 and 2 will go as they are. City 1 will be a monster and I want to have big cities that smaller cities can boost with their districts.

>>158609649
It's +1/district rather than +0.5/district. Other adjacencies still apply as usual, so you would have to make the call. You should definitely group as many districts together as possible though.

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>>158609609

>>158609609
its an ok game, cant recommend to anyone to buy it though
pirate it

>>158609609
I dunno if it's worth 80 maple bucks but yeah, in my professional opinion it's better than vanilla civ 5 with dlc. The only thing civ 5 has over it right now is style and mods.

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>>158609946

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>play Saladin
>leading in both religion and culture
>suddenly angry Japanese boy declare war
>no soldier and def
>fuked

>>158609649
It's "an additional standard bonus" usually this means 1 instead of .5 but I'm not sure how this is for things like Theater Squares or Commercial/Harbour

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>>158610105

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>>158599476
http://stellaris.smods.ru/

How do I denounce someone?
Can I even denounce someone who denounced me?

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Is Sins of a Solar Empire like Civ/Endless Space? Putting a hold on more civ6 until it's fixed.

>>158609576
>There should be a "swap button" when you go into worker veiw of the city that you want to tak control, control zones and borders must be contiguous.


Yep it appears now I had to shut down and reload the game to get it to work.

>>158609678

He also hates you if you build too much industry, lol

Are adjacency bonuses really that crucial? I mean, getting +2 is usually trival, and you often have to go out of the way to get +3, which is just 1 difference. Won't make or brake your game, as mid-late game yields will go into tens and hundreds.

Something that has much more affect on game is getting as many overlapping bonuses for your cities from district buildings, or even just doing proper job with tile assignment and improvement, which automated AI is very bad at.

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>>158602524
i know

>>158610847

Russia is the king of adjacency. If you fuck up their adjacency you will be worthless.

Also, how to russias food problem in tundra if you can't settle with access to grassland/plains? Do I dedicate religious ideas toward extra food production?

>>158610847
Most people who discuss adjacency play either MP where everyone is pushing the limit, or Immortal/Diety where AI outright cheats. Bleeding bonuses is not a good idea in either enviroment.

Is it the Hidden Agenda mechanic that makes the AI more stupid than Civ 5?

>>158610847
By the end game adjacency doesn't mean much, but Civilization has always been about the early game snowballing into big bonuses. There are midgame policies that double adjacency bonuses as well.

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Workshop when?

>>158609609
Pirate it.

>>158610698
sins is an rts in space, not really a 4x game at all, nor turn-based

>>158609678

Everyone but Gandhi dislikes everyone during early game. Just don't do anything to push their agenda buttons, and they'll mellow out when you start trading.

>>158611089
So a King player like me doesn't need to worry?

>>158610847
Adjacency comes in very early, as soon as a district is going down. Which is important since off the top of my head most, if not all, districts don't actually provide an inherent benefit whilst costing a ton of production.

I never build aerodomes. Kind of wish it was just an upgrade for the encampment.

>>158611367

>conquered a single city state in the classical era
>get denounced by everybody every few turns for the entire rest of the game for being a warmonger

>>158611091
That and the fact they randomize it. Ghandi's the only one with a locked hidden agenda

>>158611443
I built one and then realized my Oil was coming from a City State which I lost suzerainty of.
By the time I got oil there was no point in making planes.

>>158611504
Wait he always has nuke happy?

>>158611409
It's still useful to pay attention, but no you don't really need to worry about it. Mid levlel difficulties are mostly about not fucking up. picking good places to settle and making sure to have enough of a military to protect oneself from a rush.

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>it's another circle jerk of friends break up and start denouncing and warmongering each other episode
Thank god I'm on another continent.

Should I trade away extra luxury resources like in Civ 5 or do I actually need them?

>>158611613
Pretty sure yeah. Cleo really shouldn't ever get paranoid but she does

>>158610643
If someone denounces you, you can't denounce them back but it's ok because the game considers you to have automatically denounced them back (but without the relationship penalty) since you can declare a formal war in 5 turns.

I'm currently doing my first, relatively blind playthrough of Endless Legend, and I feel like I'm doing something very wrong.
Short of wandering around and picking up dust from ruins, I'm mostly just standing around waiting for science to research and doing parlay quests to pacify the locals.

Now that my hero's squad's been dashed and I don't have any more marines (Valuters) queued up, I'm mainly just making sure my sciences and construction queues are in order and skipping to next turn.

Is there something I'm supposed to be doing that I'm not?

>>158611898
Plus, why does it take 2X turns to produce things when an standard game's max length is like 300 turns?

I want to play with people but I don't want to play quick tiny games with no AI against min maxing faggots. What do?

>>158611898

Pick something simpler like Elves to learn the game

>>158612353
Get some friends.

>>158611747
Just trade them

>>158611898
Your question is a bit wierd, thereisn't a lot of micro between turns in EL, if you are doing well you usually just expand, then when there is nowhere to expand build an army and conquer. Alternatively do the faction quest it gives sweet things and helps you learn faction.

>>158612297
What do you mean 2x? If it takes long to build staff it's because you aren't investing enough in production

>>158612362
You don't need to Holy Juggle to play as vaulters, he isn't playing endless. Vaulters are as good as elves for newby.

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>>158610465
you are a saint anon

you may wish for any pic from my image folder

>>158612709
X as in [variable number], 20, 24, 21, 15, etc.
Not everything, somethings are 5/10, but things I want, like marines or pathfinders, are like 27 turns.

>>158611898
>>158612297
>>158612709
Also, also, the production time for this Settler is skipping around, it was like 8 durring Winter, then it was 4 when winter ended, and now it's back up to 6 for some reason.

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>random

>>158597871
What's a good speed to play at for 6?

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ez

>>158612884
Long story short you didn't research/build/assign enough production. In EL for "simple" factions production is paramount, some argue that you should just pumb dust and buyout everything but those people are morons. Well it's either that or just lazy, it does take less effort to make dust.

Point being, when looking for a place to settle in EL as vaulters you should look for 3 things:
1)Total fidsy
2)Production Yeld
3)Science yeld from tiles.
I maintain that the best terrain for vaulters is enchanted forest, because it's 1/1/1

As to how to solve it - move pops to production, unless you can significantly decrease time before new pop (>2 turns per pop), research production buildings and build them.

>>158613093
Winters fuck with everything. They make your life misarable and your cities shit. Vaulters have vaults, that help a lot by protecting your cities somewhat, but only after you do some faction quests. As to why its now 6 It could be a dozen different things.

>>158613148
>
dank

I'm looking for the file that contains the number of starting units and techs/civics the AI get at each difficulty. I want to try playing with the AI having the production/sci/etc boost of a higher difficulty but the starting units/techs/civics of a different difficulty. anybody know where this file would be? it isnt Difficulties.xml.

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>accidentally won a game through culture as America because I built film studios

>>158613741
Happens to be all the time.

>always want to try out a science or victory win
>always end up winning by culture because dank civics

>Playing Civ2
>Chinese ask for truce
>I click no since they always make a sneak attack one turn later anyway
>Truce signed
>wut
oh right, they have the UN so I have to sign a Truce if they want.

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Post YFW multiplayer match and you see Scythia is your neighbor

>>158613741
>>158613920
>Going for Science victory
>Waste production on theater districts and film studios

I don't believe in Astrology, I am a pig

>>158614270
I don't know how effective the generate GPP stuff is at the bottom of the production list and if you get your production high enough, you usually cant build anything else

>>158614263
Honestly I think Scythia is strong enough to be banned in multiplayer

>>158614270
The amount of culture/tourism you pile up is insanely high with wonders and artifacts that you can easily win through culture before anything else.

>>158614429
Then your science isn't high enough or you're grabbing random techs. The space projects cost an absolute ton of production, part of the Science victory is setting up your crazy spaceport city with 4 power plants.

And Campus Grants also generate science, and you're going to be wanting GPP for the 100% Space project production great scientist. Great Engineers are good too.

I unironically enjoy this quote meme autism on /civ4xg/ so keep up the work

>>158614648

I normally build tall enough to afford cultural buildings after my science and production ones. I also grab every wonder that I can get just because the AI skip them most of the time.

>>158614547
>Building Wonders and Museums
It keeps happening.
If you're aiming for a certain victory type actually go for it.

Most wonders aren't even that good. You're probably looking at Ruhr Valley and Oxford as the only really enticing ones. Great Library is okay but probably unlikely.

>>158614648
You can also just build a spaceport in 3 decent production cities.

>>158608898
Well you have to remember that the two unit lines only make sense if you have one that is *large mounted thing* and another that is *thing designed to counter large mounted thing*.

Pikes vs. Horses and AT vs. Tanks are certainly the only two I can think of.

What mods are you guys waiting for? Nep mods for me.

>>158614804

Don't forget Great Zimbabwe. That trade buff is worth it.

>>158614546
They probably will be in any real groups/competition since they can sell the dupe horsemen for 100% value - op abilities aside.

This game needs war themes or something, it doesn't feel right at all marching armies to murder people and all I hear is this calm and peaceful Johnny Cash song.

>>158614804
>Ruhr Valley is a wonder
wie lächerlich ist das denn bitte

>>158615178
Just put on a relevant playlist from YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvhTNGr1lhc&list=RDVvhTNGr1lhc#t=0

>>158615178
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I

>>158614972
Some more extensive balance mods. Right now they just don't have the tools to do something like restricting wood chopping to your borders

>>158615178
just play his empire of dirt some when you invade someone

>>158615178
While Civ5 and Civ6 have great soundtracks, I usually turn off music when I want to have a certain mood and play my own songs.

>>158615178
It ain't fond of pigs

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>>158613650
pls anyone?

>>158598058

Gorgo takes the cake for civ6 masturbation-bait, the only drawback is no hairy armpits. Still, good enough.

>Wipe out last civ on my continent
>Lose game because Scythia now has religious majority victory.

Fuck that, I now know what victory is getting turned off along with score.

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>>158616243
>losing the Holy War

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>>158599982
>Like the mom from Malcom in the Middle

>>158614263
do people unironically play pub multiplayer?

>>158616590
I play with friends.

>>158599982

Or like Lena Headley

>>158598058
post the one where she shakes her spartas

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>>158616663
But which Lena tho?
>>158616672
You mean her intro?

>assimilating vassals into your empire
truly the best feel in stellaris

So I've finally made it to late game in Diety

I'm a cunt-hair away from a science victory with Freddy. Feels great

Do hammers overflow into the next thing you produce in Civ 6?

For example, if I have something that will finish production at 100 and I'm at 80, and I chop giving me 34 production, does the extra production get used for the next thing I build?

Or is it wasted?

Where can I get a download for the Civ 5 update?

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>>158617310
>tfw waiting for Stellaris sale

>>158614887

Don't helicopter gunships lose their weakness to anti-cavalry units and are instead weak to AA guns/SAMs?

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>>158617308
>But which Lena tho?

Only the best

>>158617457
>not pirating it and having fun before sale

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>my roman ally has so many fucking crossbowmen that i can't use my great engineer on the space race tile

i have been waiting 10 turns jesus fucking christ

r8 my autism

>production and economy exploits
-You can only chop rainforests and forests within your borders
-You can only sell non-Builders within your border and only if they are above 50 health
-You can't sell Builder at all
-Half the sell price of Scythia's Horses of Dubs
-Fix the Armada/Corp exploit and make them sell for an appropriate amount of gold
-Fix the Trade exploit somehow

>AI and diplomacy
-Agendas are now split into two categories, positive agendas and negative agendas. Positive agendas can only ever make you more likable by a certain civ. For example, having a larger or as large of a navy as Norway will only ever make them like you; while having a smaller navy won't make them dislike you. However something like attacking a city-state or forward settling will have larger negative diplomatic penalties
-Agendas and gifts now explicitly show you how large of an effect they had numerically
-AI will now more frequently upgrade its units when it has the money.

>tech and resources
-Early game strategic resources like Iron and Horses are a lot more abundant
-Harbors have a negative penalty when not next to the city center, but the upgrades are slightly buffed. Encourage coastal settling a bit more.
-Late era military units will now always require tech that has its equivelant early era military unit, science cost is adjusted.

>barbs
-You will be alerted when a Barbarian camp spawns 6 tiles away from one of your cities.
-Barbarians will only ever spawn new units from their camp, instead of outside.

>>158615064
this the sellling of units outside borders needs to be fixed it is so easily abusable

>>158605824
http://kotaku.com/silly-civilization-vi-map-recreates-earth-melts-graphi-1788207888

>>158617637
never ally anyone they have a habit of spamming horsemen or warriors in your territory

>>158617738

Did you seriously just link to fucking Kotaku?

>>158617642
>r8 my autism
well done anon, I hope patchnotes will fix every single line, but very well done.

>>158617637
>modern city
>crossbowmen and catapults
ebin job firaxis

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>start a game as Russia
>closest neighbor is my waifu, Tomy
>build a campus next to 4 mountains
>turns out she likes smart guys, but she's still tsun tsun
>Gilgamesh starts bullying her
>kick his ass and take all his money
>she loves me now
Feels good man

>>158618020
>50 turns later she bends you over
Forgot that part

>>158617642

There is also the siege tower/mech infantry army exploit

>city capturing on ez mode

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playing as Kongo have iron in my capital trade it for 30 turns for a holy relic with AI

>>158617308
yes that

>start building the space race parts
>realize nobody will ever catch up to me
>quit the game because there's no reason to wait 70 turns to win

Does Cleopatra always betray you when she gets the chance?

>>158617642

Adding to 3 on AI and diplomacy

>The AI will not under any circumstances have unlimited gold.

>>158618020
huh, in my game it also had tomy and gil and they always wage war with each other

>>158618258
Have fun and take all capitals.

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>>158618330
Only if you're weak. You're not weak are you?

>>158618356
A lot of people seem to say Gilgamesh is a bro, yet he always declares surprise wars in my experience. Probably why Tomyris hates him.

>>158617325
They overflow, and not only do they overflow, they STACK overflow.

For example, you're sythia, and you build horses every turn. When a new wonder becomes available to build, you have 2000 spare hammers available and you build the wonder in 1 turn.

>>158618535
Gil probably hates her cause she's taking his barbs with her vampires

>Joint war from two weaker civs
>Turtle for 50turns and nothing happened
>Ask for peace a few more turns later.

Is this 2016 AI?

>>158618453
Does selling out royals to get dicked by monsters count as strong?

is there anywhere in the interface i can see a breakdown of building maintenance
or see the individual maintenance costs of my buildings

i like civ vi

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I've realized why end-game feels so much longer than in Civ 5.

The game is wide. So that means more spies to renew (which we didn't even have to do in Civ 5), more trade routes to renew, and they even removed the infinite science/money queue that Civ 5 had.

Why did they have to make everything a pain?

>>158618830
That's not your army's doing Osira. Gotta have a big army or your sister Cleo won't like you.

>>158618958
>they even removed the infinite science/money queue that Civ 5 had.

That's the most annoying thing about it. I'm shitting out armies because it's the production that takes the longest and I can't be assed to look at every city every turn.

>>158618869
>view reports
>yields tab
>collapse 'city income'
>'building expenses' is below it

>>158618958
trade routes and defensive spies should've been automated

trade routes can be cancelled in the trade routes tab and spies should have their icons on your city anyways

>>158617637
just kill his unit and do it you pussy

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>>158619101
thank you anon

None of my apostles seem to have any promotion available. The fuck is going on? I didn't build Mont Saint-Michel.

>>158618958
The game requiring more interaction is a good thing, but some things really should be able to "repeat until cancelled" like spies and trade routes

>>158607539
>>158607886
How you want your cities senpai?
>city 2
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP NIGGER

>>158619474
I think builders having charges is pretty cool but the rest of the stuff really should be automated.

when is a search function for resources on my fucking map?
How can such a simple thing not brainstormed in the dev process??

>>158619625
yeah they really didn't even think about blind players imho

>>158619625
When you discover a new resource in your border they tell you on the right notification tab. Stop clicking through all that stuff.

>>158619560
there's oil there and you just don't know it yet

So if you buy a tile with an AI unit on it that doesn't have open borders, the unit just gets to stay there? It doesn't seem like borders really prevent people from going in. Likewise they seem to walk in and kill a barbarian in my land before declaring war. How can I get them to leave I just want to send a worker over there.

STOP

SPAWNING ME NEAR A DESERT GAME

REEEEEEEEE

>specifically put it on wet in the hopes of avoiding this
>still always right next to a desert

WHY

>have the world on new and no fucking mountains

>>158620226

No, they get teleported out

>>158620226
Everyone starts with open borders. Research early empire, your borders close.

My spy has failed me in protecting my production facilities. Will adding another spy to protect my production tile help any or will it be a waste?

>>158620313
old has more mountains and hill, not new

>>158619759
This always shows up for me with Antiquity Sites but never with shit like oil or coal.

>>158620567
yes it does

>>158620547
Might wanna check again

>>158620567
ur wrong

>>158620621
>>158620667
I'm not saying its not meant to, but it never shows up for anything I give a shit about, despite finding one or two sources in my borders.

Likely related to how sometimes a Wonder notification will get frozen into the sidebar until I reload the game, or how multiple notifications of the same event type can't seem to decide how it wants to show the information (most annoying when receiving multiple city state quests)

>a source of [strategic resource] has appeared near [city]
>it's under a district
Is there any reason you shouldn't be able to see strategic resources early on?

>>158620567
It's the leaf symbol.

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FUCK Barbarians in Civ 6.
I scouted this camp out, sent a Warrior and Archer. Was gonna set the Warrior up in a defensive position and just rain arrows from the Archer until the camp was clear.

One turn from reaching the camp TWO fucking horsemen spawn and immediately start raping my 3 units. All 3 of my units die, taking one horseman with them, who is immediately replaced by a third horseman spawn from the barbarian camp.

Who the fuck thought this was a good idea? Why the fuck are barbarians more threatening than other civs in the early game?

>>158620957
strategic eXploring and eXploiting reasons

>>158620949
oh, reinstall windows

How to get Creatures of the Void? Fuck Preordering.

do horsemen have any disadvantage vs swordsmen?
attacking a city penalty?
less fortify bonus?
anything?

>>158621042
lol what civ is that

>>158620965
Yes, as it is with antiquity sites.

Anyone else playing on immortal or diety?

Got my ass warrior rushed by Rome at turn 40

>>158620993
>Who the fuck thought this was a good idea? Why the fuck are barbarians more threatening than other civs in the early game?
I honestly think it should be this way, because it wouldn't make senes for barbs to be more threatening than other civs in the LATE game

though their instant production + teleporting their units right in front of your face or flanking you is retarded

>>158621721
Did you make a spearman?

>>158621721
Playing on Diety as Germany, got put on a lone island

Playing SimCity for the last 100 turns

Are any of the DLCs for Endless Legend worth it? I'm thinking of picking some up during the winter steam sale.

>>158621080
sorry i more meant 'compared to swordsmen' not specifically 1v1 vs swordsmen

they did a really fucking good job with this game unironically

>>158621080
In Civ5 they had penalties attacking cities if I remember correctly. Not sure about Civ6.

>>158621771
Holy fuck are you dumb. In what version of reality is it logical to assume that if they're not ultra threatening in the early game, merely something to threaten your scouts, capture settlers, pillage resources, etc, that they therefore MUST be more threatening in the late game than a civ?

Why did your brain assume these were the only two options? What the fuck?

>>158622008
It's as good as Civ5 with BNW and that's weird.

>>158621721
My first Deity game America rushed me at like turn 20 or something insane. Like he obviously just started warrior production and sent them all in a direction and hoped to find something to wreck.

Problem was because it was Teddy he had the same continent bonus on top of the Deity difficulty bonus and they just walked right through the hail of stones to fuck everything.

>>158621080
>>158621986
>compared to swordsmen
well they get 100% fucked by spear/pikemen harder than swordsmen do by cavalry

I think they have a penalty against attacking cities but i'm not 100% sure

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>When you unlock 13% of all the achievements at once

uhhhhhhhhh

>>158622136
because the team that made civ 6 made BNW
it has a ton of balance issues and bugs to fix but in terms of content and comfiness it basically blows past civs out of the water for the most part

>>158622268
$0.25 has been deposited into your account

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I'm trying to be the first religion so I can pick THE BEST BONUSES

And because I like to be first. I'm playing on Emperor. I'm trying to figure out if I should risk stonehenge here and do the chop chop or if I should just build a holy site district as I have divine spark.

>>158622487
LOL don't worry about all that complicated nerdy shit... Just build Horsemen and Builders my dawg ;) ....

>>158622340
I wish I was paid to like games. sorry, anon

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>>158622550

>>158622561
i was JUST KIDDING don't take it so personal , ok??!

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>>158621721
Restarted again in Immortal and this happens.

>>158621721

Just beat the game on Deity as Germany

I'm throttling my next game back to Emperor

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Just did my first nuke strike.
Pretty sure everyone is going to denounce me now but all these bitches denounced me plenty of times pre-industrial and some even went to war. Fuck them all.

Except my waifu Catherine

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Fighters are pretty satisfying in civ2.
I guess they're not functionally that different from civ5, the movement back and forth between a city and what you strike is replaced with a long ranged attack instead.

>>158622889
>Iwnw
How the hell do you pronounce that?

Does this 1.3.1 patch break saves for 1.3?
Stellaris btw.

>>158622889
Really can't wait till they release the patch making AI upgrade their units.

So lame having all those fucking warriors and catapults around... they don't even build the new ones either

>>158623117
>they don't even build the new ones either

Sure they do, you just have to slaughter their old era units first

>>158623117
All depends on if they got the strat resource in their lands. If they got it they will upgrade no problem.

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Hello /civ4xg/.

I come again with the same game of Sumer that I started a while ago for which I asked for help.

I'm planning to restart fresh on the same map but from turn one, to kind of optimize my strategy (I was just bumbling around this time, since it's my first game in Civ 6)

So with that said, given this map of the general area, how would YOU plan out your first 4 cities? Which districts would you place where, and in general how would you play the early game? India is to the southwest and france to the southeast. Managed to snag a worker and a settler from each early on, which crippled them.

I have marked the Settler start location with a pin (it was originally a forest, to the left and a bit above Uruk). I'm not seeking for other people to "play the game for me", I'm just curious as to what people who are actually good at the game would cook up here as their game plan, so that I can learn from their reasoning. Any and all replies are very appreciated. Sincerely, a noob.