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THIS THREAD'S FINISHED: >>158453337

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp
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eye crye everytiem
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>>158591085
Can I get a Hunter's mask edit on this?
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Ahh, Ken, or some say Kenneth... Do you hear our prayers?
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>>158591309
hoping I still remember how to cross quote.
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>not Kenneth Viken edition

DELETE THIS
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When searching for Chalice dungeons, what do the messengers mean? The one to (?) amounts of them next to the Area and Depth?
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>>158592291
Amount of players.
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>>158592291
How active/popular that dungeon is. It's on a scale of 5 so it's pretty useless.
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>>158592368
>>158592406

>pick one with 4 messengers
>go to first bonus room
>uncanny burial blade

I guess that explains why that had 4 messengers.
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>>158592291
>>158592368
>>158592406
>make frc dungeon for spelunking
>set to open
>by the time I get to layer 2 I notice the messengers around the lamp have increased
>see another phantom running around layer 3 by the time I get there.

Bastard beating me in my own chalice.
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>>158591538
>>158591703
Soon, brothers
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>>158592801
>>by the time I get to layer 2 I notice the messengers around the lamp have increased
Wait, around the lamp? They don't mean anything. They're just fluff AFAIK.
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>>158593119
There is a reason why pwmf22gu has so many messengers around the lamp to the point where they can't wear their hats. Amount of messengers around the lamp = amount of players in that dungeon currently.
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>>158592748
Not the single most messed up thing I'be seen. That pic that makes that one Anon want to delete his file takes the cake.
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>>158593361
Huh, I never noticed. I thought the anon was asking about the 0-5 messengers that appear on the chalice select screen.
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>>158593484
He was and i was adding on something else thats kind of neat.
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Anyone want to help with Logarius? Pass is wheel
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Guys is 4chan infected
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>>158593670
Lamp or fog?
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>>158593864
fog
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>>158593846
Good for that pizza guy.
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>>158592748
more
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>>158592748
What am I looking at?
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>>158593864
thanks man!
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>>158594321
No prob
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>>158593407
I still don't understand what happened. Maybe the two church servants that are supposed to be there exploded.
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>>158592826
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>>158593846
Hopefully that won't stop him from delivering the pizzas.
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>>158594724
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>>158594243
Two bros totally just praying to Kosm
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>doing first FRC ever
>nothing but fucking granny longlegs
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>still doing random co-op
Twice or three times now I've had a host die while the boss had a sliver of HP, then I killed the boss. Hope these doods are getting the kills.
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>>158593846
It's pop-ups. Behold.
>>158594387
But where are the bodies?
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>tfw finally beat Rom in my BL 4 run

Can't even imagine how long I'll take to beat Laurence.
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>>158595517
Nowhere to be found.
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>>158595431
Wait till you meet a Hemwick Witch and her faggot Mad Ones
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The only way a real man plays his video games.
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>>158595631
Didn't know Church servants are self-cleaning. Now only if they got rid of that blood.
>>158595740
Yeah question. I went back to the Lane, and the first staircase area had a Mad One spawn for no reason. Do they spawn in the Lane if you have 20+ Insight or are they suppose to only be spawned by the Witches?
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>>158595936
They don't spawn if you don't have enough insight. I'm not sure on the exact number. I think it's 20?
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>>158595936
they start spawning in Hemwick(and that little forest right before it with all the Gun Huntsmen) after you kill Amelia and switch to Night phase
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>>158595431

>isz chalice
>undead giant

Makes no sense.
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>>158596021
>They don't spawn if you don't have enough insight
Does that work for chalices as well? I hate them more than the spider witches.
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>>158596259
I'm 90% certain it doesn't in chalices, since this time, they're being spawned by Hemwick Witches.
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>>158596392
But if yoiu enter in the boss fight against the witches with 0 insight they also don't spawn.
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>>158596485
That's a good point, actually.

Give me a moment. I'm going to spend all my insight and test it out in an FRC chalice.
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>>158596621
>>158596485
Nope, they still spawn.
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>>158596890
Oh, well. Thanks for checking it, anyways.
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damn people still play bb? How active is it?
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>>158596972
I get plenty of co-op and invasions every day, so it's pretty active.
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Is there any Heavy Abyssal glyph that's not on the third level?
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>>158597517
no.
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>>158596179
They never spawned in the forest before.
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>>158597706

Shame. Trekking to the third layer for RNG seems tedious.
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>>158597997
Most gems require layer 3.
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>>158597997
Just savescum before entering the boss door.
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Why doesn't Micolash have his handcuffs when you encounter him?
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Sometimes you have to know when to fold 'em.
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>>158599428
Jesus fuck.

Glyph?
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>>158599581
2bh I don't even remember. I just wanted to finally post this shot.
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>>158599428
jeez and I thought this one was bad
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>there are people in this thread that actually say kosm
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>>158600206
Ahh, Skub...
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>>158600206
>Kosfag throws the first punch

Typical Kos degenerate.
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>>158601029
He was doing his rightful duty by putting the idiot Kosm fag in his place.
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>>158600206
Why not compromise and call her Koskosm?
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>>158601170
Because her name is not Koskosm, nor is it Kosm.

It is Kos.
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>bl103
>summoned to Defiled Hotdog
>guy also summons Queen Killer
>QK inevitably dies
>Hotdog's HP bar is imperceptively small
>Host gets caught in the AoE and dies
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>>158601262
It's a compromise. No need to fight. Would Kos(m) want you to fight over something so trival?
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>>158601362
Queen Killer isn't that bad for Watchdog
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>>158598771
He took them off in there, I presume.
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And it happened again.
>BL103
>Summoned
>Holst doesn't greet me
>Knight's Set and Crown of Illusion
>LHB
>Wanders aimlessly, only moves when I move, seems to want me to lead him
>Finally get to the boss, Maneater fucking Boar (so we're in what, Hintertomb?)
>Kill it
>He just runs off
>Character name: "sly"

Am I just a huge asshole or is this shit enough to drive a person mad?

>>158601472
Summoning three people at BL80+ for Watchdog is retarded.
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>>158601262
Or some say, Kosm
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>>158602421
>sly
I'm counting off points. What did you nignogs name your Hunter(s)? I named mine Urist McUrist.
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>>158604338
Hingle McCringleberry
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What are the best runes avaliable without goint through the chalices?
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>>158604596
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XYzO2js7ggvPEg8125SIKDo6anvqirI2Dxj2JvYR0uM/
Not trying to be a dick but that's a broad question depending on what you want.
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>>158604570
Was he bullied as a child with that name?
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>>158604978
Oh, sorry. I mean the best tempering gems. I know there's a +18% somewhere in mensis, but
I also need another radial and a triangle.
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>>158605515
Oh, that'll probably be the 20.x% droplets from DLC Winter Lanterns.
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>>158605630
Thanks. It'll take me a few hours to kill Ludwig, however.
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I would have loved to be in the same room as Ludwig's voice actor when he was making those wild horse sounds.
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>>158605907
There are two 18% phys gems in Mensis, and the Winter Lanterns drop 19%s.
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>>158606373
Imagine him spending days trying to perfect his horse noises at home, and his family doing their normal routine with constant horse noises in the background.
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Is there weapons worth to convert when starting a arcane run besides saw spear and threaded cane? All the other choices with good Arc scaling seem to be 20str weapons.
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Hey, I just got bloodborne and whenever I use the bell, no one ever enters my world. Is the online dying? I figured it was really popular
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>>158607014
No, online is active. Where are you ringing at, though? And at what level? Some areas get far more activity than others.
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>>158606972
If your basis for "worth it" is .662 scaling or better, then, I guess not. But honestly I think Saw Cleaver kicks the shit out of the Spear.
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>>158607120
Can't remember the name... but there was someone in a tower firing a chain gun I killed to get access to the badass spear arm. I went up some tower where there was a door locked and I'm pretty fucking lost.
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>>158606972
Any weapon that doesn't have split damage. They're outclassed by the saws, but still perfectly viable.
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>>158607319
Old Yharnam.

You should be heading past Djura's tower; it should lead you to a building with a huge, open area. Just head straight after passing the locked door and the ladder near the enemy hunter.
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>>158607014
Online in Bloodborne works via level and location. Certain level ranges can co-op with each other, for example, level 98 can co-op as high 150 and as low as 47 (or around those numbers). It also depends on location, some locations are more active than others, just meaning some areas tend to have more players ringing their bells in them, at this point it's later areas as well as some bosses.

What you can also do is go into your options menu, System and Network, set it your matching regions to Worldwide so you can play with anyone in the world and/or set a password, people with that password will be the only people you can co-op with, you can remove it later.

Also, there's three bells - Beckoning Bell for summoning and Small Resonant Bell for getting summoned. The Sinister Bell is for invasions.
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How the hell am I supposed to hit other plays with A call Beyond? I've been invading people for while in mensis and I never hit more than 100 with 56 Arcane
Am I not supposed to stand so close to people?
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>>158606972
Arc scaling doesn't matter much especially with Cold Abyssals since those can get any pure physical weapon to S in Arcane. Ludwig's Holy Blade has the highest Arcane scaling iirc, but the one-handed sword is outclassed by saws due to low modifiers and no serration against beasts. Hunter Axe and Kirkhammer are good too. Just use any convertable weapon you can hold and stick to it.
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>>158606373
>That character with some of the best, most heart wrenching lines in the game is also the goofiest character in the game
I really hope the voice actor behind Ludwig gets a lot more work, he's an absolute treasure.
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>>158607523
I went through the path from the right of the lamp in the old church with the freak that wants me to invite people there, but at the end of there is a locked door. I killed the thing in the giant old church past the werewolves that gave me a chalice and I burned the giant think in the building right past the hunter with the shotgun. What am I missing?
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>>158607715
Anon, the days of ACB beyond sending people into panic mode are long gone, everyone knows how to dodge it now.
It's practically a "please get a free hit on me" button now.
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>>158607976
I bought the game a week ago after saving up for a PS4, I've made great use of the other spells but I really want ACB to work
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>>158607715
>Am I not supposed to stand so close to people?
You're supposed to do the exact opposite, or even better, use a different spell
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>>158608041
You won't, at the very most the only person you'll hit with it are complete shitters who just bought the game yesterday.
Especially in Mensis were everyone is a PVPer.
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>>158607715
ACB hits pretty hard with 70-99 Arcane but it's fairly easy to dodge. Shooting further away could help, but I wouldn't rely on it too much. Exe gloves, Blackskye, and Accursed Brew are better.
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>>158607943
Oh, so you've already done Old Yharnam.

There should be a newly opened door in the Cathedral Ward now, just past the lamp inside the building. It's on your right.

From there, explore a bit and you'll find a path leading down near a crumbled floor.

Either that, or buy the Hunter Chief Emblem for 10,000 Blood Echoes. You'll be going to the same place anyways.
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>>158608412
Oh shot your right, I remember now, some were wolf killed me down there, forgot cause I'm at work and have short turm memory loss. Surprised me the bastard did
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>>158607149
>>158607361
>>158607827
I guess I'll spend those ten levels to let me wield Kirkhammer and Whirligig before reaching Kos Parasite and the korean gems. That should give some more variety while still having strong Arc in the 98-117 level range.
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>>158609660
You can easily go 25/25/50 and be under BL117.
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>>158610165
What about hunter's tools? Isn't it better to have more Arcane because of the different scaling?
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>>158610992
Oh well sure, Tools scale all the way to 99. You only said "decent" arcane. You can still get 70 and have 16/14 or so.
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>>158611116
Actually you didn't say "decent". I'm drunk.
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What exactly caused the Blood Starved Beast to be so blood starved and skinless? Is that the way it became once the person it used to be became a beast? Also what is the story behind this picture?
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>>158611669
Ashen blood
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>>158611669
I would assume him being hard af for new players probably.
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>>158611804
None of the other beasts are skinless in Old Yharnam. Did BSB get a double douse of it?
>>158612303
Aren't they suppose to take what they learn for the first two fights and use it on him?
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>>158611669
Newbies can't handle the poison. They usually forget to use items like Antidotes, Pungent Blood Cocktails, Fire Paper, and BB Pellets which make the fight a joke. That and sticking to his right side.
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>>158612451
BSB isn't skinless. The "hood" he has is the flayed skin from his back hanging over his head. As for learning, it's not so much his pattern or anything as it is him poisoning you in 2 hits when his second phase starts.
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>>158611669
BSB is often a wall for new players, despite the fact that you can literally dodge left and watch all its attacks go over your head.

Maybe it's the poison.
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>>158612561
>and BB Pellets
If they're new wouldn't they really not be able to get those?
>>158612620
I assumed it was muscle.
>>158612750
Just where does he keep the poison?
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>>158611669
There's another dead BSB in Old Yharnam, crucified in the room with all the praying mobs. I think BSB was just another crucified beast that was only half dead when crucified during the burning of Old Yharnam, and managed to free itself and get back its strength without fully healing.

What I'm more interested in is the Darkbeast, how the fuck is that thing still alive when it literally has no flesh left?
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>>158612750
it's the poison, and the fact that Always Be Dodging Left is something that less observant people might miss

also if they summon Alfred to aid them, the fight gets a lot harder as BSB becomes less predictable in it's actions
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>>158612860
There's a stash nearby his area, about 4+ BB Pellets iirc.
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>>158612875
>What I'm more interested in is the Darkbeast, how the fuck is that thing still alive when it literally has no flesh left?

Fair question. Ayyyy magic or some shit?
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>>158612875
>There's another dead BSB in Old Yharnam, crucified in the room with all the praying mobs. I think BSB was just another crucified beast that was only half dead when crucified during the burning of Old Yharnam, and managed to free itself and get back its strength without fully healing.
Isn't the other one much bigger?
>What I'm more interested in is the Darkbeast, how the fuck is that thing still alive when it literally has no flesh left?
It's possibly so old it doesn't need flesh anymore. Aren't Darkbeasts and Silverbeasts beasts who get their powers from their bones? Plus Paar has a cousin in the Dugeons so maybe it's a sign?
>that picture
Why?
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>>158612984
What's four pellets going to do?
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>>158613154
I've never seen anything that implied Silver beasts get their power from their bones, also Abhorrent Beast is obviously related someway to dark and silver beasts (electricity flowing through them) and he doesn't have any bone powers, although he does retain some sentience, as do silver beasts considering their use of torches.

>>158613049
I don't think so, beasts, especially Loran beasts, seem to have developed in such a way that makes them seem completely opposite to kin, think about it, kin are weak to electricity and kin are all about eyes on the inside, while many beasts are blind and the lower your insight the higher your beasthood.
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>>158613154
>Isn't the other one much bigger?
I think so, actually. Maybe it consumed more blood?

>Why?
Porn exists of anything.
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>>158613578
Uhh, you only need one for the fight. Paired with Fire Paper and a +3 Saw weapon, you'll still have the Beasthood activated after killing BSB if you're aggressive enough.
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>>158613769
>I've never seen anything that implied Silver beasts get their power from their bones, also Abhorrent Beast is obviously related someway to dark and silver beasts (electricity flowing through them) and he doesn't have any bone powers, although he does retain some sentience, as do silver beasts considering their use of torches
The Abhorrent Beast is different from the Afflicted Beggar. The latter has the Beast rune which may explain why he isn't balls to the wall I'm going to eat those balls and walls insane with Beasthood.
>>158613797
That could have been it.
>Porn exists of anything
Of course it does.
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>>158613154
>Why?
Why not?
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>>158614471
I forget where I am at times.
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>>158614724
>Dark beast Paarl will never electrocute you with her joy buzzer like vagina
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>>158614239
>tfw no Ebrietas r34
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>>158614926
Oh?
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>>158614898
>>158614926
>>158615080
You guys are strange Hunters.
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>>158614926
>no Ebrietas r34
Oh anon, you sweet, naive child.
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>>158615080
Now if only we could remove that ugly generic bitch from the picture.
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>>158615080
>>158615459
B-but, they all depict her in the male role.
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>>158615730
There is literally a picture on paheal of ebs getting titfucked and cumshot you fucking idiot
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OH?
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>>158615898
B-but there are only two
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>>158615898
Rude!

On the subject of BSB, I like to think that the OY beasts are still trying to live their lives. Like the ones in the church still conducting a ceremony and stuff. It seems like a long time since OY was set on fire, yet there's a BSB crucified and other smaller beasts on fire, etc. Maybe the wolf beasts are doing it for whatever reason. Maybe as a replacement for burial, ceremony or remembering the hunt?

I love this game because there is so much room for speculation. If there is a god, we'll get another DLC.
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Anybody need assistance?
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>>158615278
See we didn't come here lookin' no beastly blood, we ain't got no saws, no guns, nothin'.

We came here lookin' for a beasts butt.
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>>158613769
>I don't think so, beasts, especially Loran beasts, seem to have developed in such a way that makes them seem completely opposite to kin, think about it, kin are weak to electricity and kin are all about eyes on the inside, while many beasts are blind and the lower your insight the higher your beasthood.
way I see it, in many respects the Moon Presence is basically an Anti-Great One, so it makes sense that Beasts are Anti-Kin in nature among the more potent breeds
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>>158616258
>Like the ones in the church still conducting a ceremony and stuff.

I never even thought of that, that's neat. Probably why the hipp- err I mean Djura is still trying to protect them.
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What's the best build to use with a saif? 50/50 str/skl? Or a good high level build in general.
I'm going to make a lvl 130-140 to fight with the 120s in mergo's. I can use my 98's, but I'd rather be a scrub and have the advantage when playing randoms.
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>>158616102
How are you even getting off to that?
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>>158616625
Want to run NG+2 Mergo's Loft and rape wet nurse with me?

Will ring in the general PvP zone pass bbg
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>>158617558
Not that anon but I'll come along.
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>>158617506
Even with a level advantage you will probably lose so just don't fucking bother.
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You know, it just dawned on me, at the beginning of the game during the blood transfusion, the symbolic beast is burned away by fire and succeeded immediately by the appearance of Messengers. However, fire is a Pthumerian thing, that's their mark.

I think Queen Yharnam burned away our beasthood because she wanted to save her baby from being used as a lure for the Moon Presence. The 'contract' is made under Queen Yharnam.

Why do we kill her in Ihyll, though? We only see her in the Nightmare, at whatever the fuck Moonside Lake is and Mensis. The Yharnam we meet is in the Labyrinths, sealed away in the waking world, she's mad there like the other trapped Pthumerians (elder and descendant), like Micolash is dead in the waking world. Two versions co-existing.

As for why Hunters get trapped in the Hunter's Dream and freed by Gehrman, still stuck on that. Maybe it's the MP trying to stop someone fucking up the beckoning plan.

Just my interpretation, I've been trying to make sense of this for a while and the Moon Presence wanting kill Mergo just never made sense to me since it's a Great One and as such would yearn for a surrogate and we kill off Gehrman (possibly it's then-surrogate) and it gets mad. Some parts of this game still don't add up for me after all this time.
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>>158617835
Don't be mean
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>>158618169
The way I interrupt the Nightmare is it's basically Hell for Hunters and anyone who died as a Beast.
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>>158618169
First, the contract is made with MP, with the main goal being the slaying of Mergo. I have my theories on why, but let's not get into that right now. Obviously Yharnam wants revenge for our alignment with MP and the killing of Mergo. But this is why the Hunter and those before were brought to the dream.

Next, if you look at all the alternate endings, you'll notice that MP only gets enraged when we've consumed three or more cords, giving enough insight to resist its will. It's not mad that we killed Gehrman. It only gets hostile when we reject it. The embrace isn't malicious, it's trying to give the Hunter a hug.
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>>158618230
If you think you need a level advantage to beat Mensis shitters, then that's not what you need. You just suck donkey dick/
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>>158618793
Want=/=Need
kys
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>tfw realizing you get literally constant co-op in the Dream for Gehrman/Moon Presence.
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>>158618897
>i was just pretending to be retarded

git gud or get thee gone
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>>158618904
>Hunters dream is the most consistent place to get summoned
>Can't ring your bell unless the dream is on fire
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>>158618746
Well, that's pretty much what the Hunter's Nightmare is, Hunters who go nuts with blood, but that's just one area of it. The rest of the Nightmare is a whole weird world.

>>158618758
>First, the contract is made with MP, with the main goal being the slaying of Mergo

Which makes no sense to me, never has. I know there's a whole level of alien cosmic incomprehensibility, and I feel like I should accept that, but it still bugs me. Maybe that's the idea, I dunno. Why would MP want Mergo want? If Yharnam wants revenge for her dead kid, why does she bow to us after Wet Nurse? Mensis wants to beckon the moon, but does the MP just not care, does not want a surrogate? Is the surrogate Gehrman? Who the hell's leaving all the 'kill mergo' and 'stop mensis' notes around? Previous Hunters? If MP doesn't want to be beckoned then why is it coming down and beast-nuking the city?

I'll give you the embrace thing, sure, maybe, but is that because it wants us as a new surrogate?

I've got a handle on the rest of this game, but the fucking Moon Presence still gets me.
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>>158618994
Are you an idiot or something? Where in the post did it say "need the level advantage to win" ? It said "I'd rather be a scrub and have the level advantage when playing with randoms", then your autism kicked in and you went full "REEEE GIT GUD"
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>>158619098
>unless the dream is on fire
Not only that but you have to trigger the Gehrman fight. So you can't just kill WetNurse, do a bunch of co-op, then Submit and start the next cycle immediately.
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>>158619346
>Well, that's pretty much what the Hunter's Nightmare is, Hunters who go nuts with blood, but that's just one area of it. The rest of the Nightmare is a whole weird world.
The whole Hell thing would be renforced if Father Gascan was in the Nightmare, but I'll let that pass since Amila is in it. Not sure why Simon is in it but I guess the Orphan wants everyone from the time period of the Old Hunters to suffer.
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Post Hunters?
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>>158619386
>i want to be overleveled so I don't lose to subhumans and get butthurt

what is subtext
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>>158619536
>since Amila is in it.
[citation needed]

some slut praying and wearing church garb does not instantly == Amelia

They're even credited as different VAs ffs.
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>>158619701
BUT MY HEADCANNON.
B-BUT REDGRAVE SAID
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>>158619558
Sure
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>>158619558
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>>158619536
Pappy Gascan should have been there, that is an oversight, but we do get the ability to summon him in Yharnam. I always felt Simon was an Old Hunter and he's just there, he died with this curse on him at some point a long time back and he's just hanging around, surviving, trying to unlock the secrets of the Hunter's Nightmare. Or he got in here like we did, because he isn't Bloodaddled and neither is Brador. Simons mentions the player as having the spirit of Byrgenwerth in them, I think he's that old. He seems to advance when we advance, too. Simon literally couldn't get past Ludwig.
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>>158619901
>He seems to advance when we advance, too. Simon literally couldn't get past Ludwig.
Except he already knows everything that's going to happen. Fucker read spoilers on /bbg/ before playing the game.
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>>158619558
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>>158619701
Could have been a younger Amila.
>>158619734
Who's Redgrave?
>>158619901
Maybe he's cursed and that old? Also why on earth did Brador ever think that using a mace that causes frenzy was a good idea?
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>>158619346
MP wants us as surrogate once Gehrman is dead, yes. That rejection is what triggers the fight.

It has been theorized the MP is an adolescent in terms of Great Ones, and that explains its childish, jealous behavior. I don't think there is enough evidence for any conclusive explanation so this one is as good as any.

Notes are probably left as guidance by messengers, other hunters and the like. The whole ritual Rom was a part of was specifically designed to keep the MP from descending, either from hiding what they were doing, or more likely, as a barrier to keep it out.
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>>158619590
If I'm going to be making a character specifically made for fighting a set of players, I would like it to be as good as possible. If people (or just you as it seems) on /bbg/ get so autistic over it to the point that you ignore everything in the post except that, doesn't matter to me. I just won't feed you any (you)s
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>>158620006
He's certanly learned some stuff, but once he gets too far, then Brador comes after him, and then us. I don't think he knew too much, it was our progress which I suppose just confirmed some theories he had going on, and once that happened, Beast-Hide Assassin kicks in.
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>>158620114
>why on earth did Brador ever think that using a mace that causes frenzy was a good idea?
He says that it purifies blood
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>>158620136
I'll accept that. I guess it really is meant to be that vague.

So, who made Rom? And why?

>the byrgenwerth spider hides all manner of rituals and keeps our old master from us

I'm guessing Burgertown made Rom, or is it that she's just located there? Because there's an almost identical, dead Rom in the Upper Cathedral Ward, covered in melted candles.

If Mensis is Byrgenwerth 2.0, why hide their work? Or does Willem not approve of 2.0? That's my only guess, the last remaining Burgers made Rom to hold Mensis' stuff back.
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>>158620187
He needs his head checked. The whole Bloodletter plus wearing a dead friend's skin cannot be too healthy for a mind.
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>>158620441
Kos(m) made Rom. I don't think Willem had a mind left to do anything.
> Mensis is Byrgenwerth 2.0, why hide their work? Or does Willem not approve of 2.0? That's my only guess, the last remaining Burgers made Rom to hold Mensis' stuff back.
Isn't Mensis the Choir's rival and Kos(m) worshippers?
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>>158619558
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>>158620441
Rom was found in the chalice dungeons, it was made by the Pthumerians
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Dear god, the beastly idiocy in this thread makes my head shudder uncontrollably.
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>>158619487
>There are people that actually submit to Gehrman

How could you not put him out of his misery? When I fight Gehrman I'm not fighting him as an enemy, I'm fighting him as a friend to end his suffering. I personally think that he summoned the Moon Presence expecting Laurence to take over the Hunter's Dream when he arrived (possibly with the complete umbilical cord), but sadly Laurence never made it there.

You may be in the Hunter's Dream, but you're also in Gehrman's Nightmare.
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>>158620887
>How could you not put him out of his misery? When I fight Gehrman I'm not fighting him as an enemy, I'm fighting him as a friend to end his suffering.
This. No need for an old man to suffer any longer than he needs to be. Where he's going, he'll get all the prunes an old man could dream of.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKadfj9xivM
Is this the first dialogue in the series?
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>>158619558
r8 me
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>>158620887
>>158621035
My interests > anyone else's interests
If I had to make that choice in real life I would submit.
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>>158620887
Rushing through NG+ cycles you dolt. You don't need to autistically RP everything.
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>>158621082
-3/10 would not bang.
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>>158621250
Sorry you like skipping the best final boss in the soulsborne series, faggot.
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>>158621082
>you have invaded the world of FreshBakedLoli
which one of you fucks was this
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>>158621082
Can't tell if it's a dude or not.
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>>158620672
>Isn't Mensis the Choir's rival and Kos(m) worshippers?

Yeah, they're both Church uppers, but Mensis is supposed to be the ideals of Byrgenwerth carried on, I think, as evidenced by the student uniforms and such.

>>158620797
I can accept that. I think it's the same for Ebrietas. Not names, types, like Amygdala.
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>>158621518
Dude
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>>158621454
>soulsborne

>>>/reddit/
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Why is this forest such shit?

Did the map editors just get to the forest and say "eh, fuck it, forests are dangerous."
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>>158621560
Mensis = original Byrgenwerth scholars who want to ascend by summoning a great one. Somehow they're collaborating with Pthumerians.
Choir = postumous scholars of Byrgenwerth, raised by the Healing Church. They consider Willem a role model and want to learn about ascension by experimenting with insight.
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>>158621703
Forest is one of the best designed areas in the game.

I hate every second of it but it's incredibly well done.
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>>158621606
Yikes.
>>158621703
Well forests are. They have trees in them, and trees are the source of all evil. Remember the scene from the Evil Dead where that chick was raped by a tree? Proof of true sinful nature of trees.
>>158621808
It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for all of the snakes.
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>>158621703
>>158621808

I love the forbbiden woods, never had a problem with it.
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>>158619558
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>>158621808
>Forest
>Best Designed
Slap a few Tentai monsters every few feet but outside of each others aggro ranges, and you got yourself a forbidden forest
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>>158622263
Slap a few monsters every few feet but outside of each others aggro ranges, and you got yourself every video game level ever
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BL22 anybody want to help me with blood starved beast? I ran out of antidote
ringing at gate password bbg
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>>158619558
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Should I start putting points into SKL or ARC now?

And should I leave BLT alone?
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>>158622369
the problem with the Forbidden forest is that it's A tentai guy and a few little tentailings, repeat this over and over again without any other monsters and it's a monotonous shitshow
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>>158622473
This is it boys /bbg/ is over.
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>>158621641
Are you seriously going to act like the reason you picked up Bloodborne WASN'T because it was made people who made Demon's/Dark Souls? Sure the trailers looked fancy, but I knew the game was going to be good when I knew who was making the game. Not to mention nearly all of the mechanics are almost exactly to same as those games.

Putting them in the same category is perfectly reasonable, so fuck off
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>>158622560
Cute. Would hunt beasts with.
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>>158622614
Giving the Souls series a retarded portmanteau of a name is not reasonable however, so fuck off.
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>>158622473
I gotta run I'm afraid, it's 5am here, but I can tell you that's there's three antidotes behind the altar at the top of the arena. Also, it sounds like a meme, but dodge forward-left into its attacks. It literally can't touch you if you do that and you're free to spin back and attack. Take your time, use a saw weapon, or transformed cane, and you'll do more damage. Also, you may have picked up some pungent blood cocktails, if you throw them, Bloodstarved will get distracted by them allowing you to get some free hits in.
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>>158622565
Put points into Vit
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>>158621703
>>158621808
>>158622130
my only issue with the Forbidden Woods is that they could have chopped off like a third of it and made Byrgenwerth a place actually worth visiting besides for killing Rom
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>>158622748
thanks, have a good night
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>>158622724
Then what would you call it jackass?
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>>158622614
He's just crying about literally the "soulsborne" thing because he likes being whiny
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>>158622837
Souls ffs. Have you never been in one of these threads before?
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Will it happen /bbg/?
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>>158623160
Old meme.
There's no hidden meaning behind that photo.
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>>158622832
Good hunting, anon
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>>158604338
>Urist McUrist

I'm one of those fags who name their character based on build.
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>>158622907
But Bloodborne doesn't have 'souls' in the title so that doesn't work.
We never did that to Demon's Souls after Dark Souls came out because they both had Souls in the title. It makes sense to take the 'last names' of each of the games and put them together when you're talking about series that are similar in many ways.
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>>158623291
Yes I got inspired by Dwarf Fortress. What about it?
>I'm one of those fags who name their character based on build
So you name your character Strength Skill?
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>>158623646
Wrong picture.
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>>158623646
>So you name your character Strength Skill?

Haha, no. For example. I made an ARC character, I named her Choirist [name]. I made a BLT build, it was called [name] of Cainhurst.
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>>158619558
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>>158623160
It's not up to Miyazaki anymore, he basically said that Sony has all the rights to DeS and they're the ones who can decide to make a remaster or not.

So the chances are very, very slim unless by some miracle sony becomes convinced they could make good money off a remaster. I mean DeS was a pretty niche game and even with from gaining as big a name for itself as it has in recent years there's still not too many folk outside of the original fans who would be all that interested.
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>>158623879
>Sony has all the rights to DeS
This is false though, Atlus is also involved.
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>>158623808
>Haha, no. For example. I made an ARC character, I named her Choirist [name]. I made a BLT build, it was called [name] of Cainhurst.
Oh, my mistake, Anon.
>>158623843
That chick has the 1000 yard stare. She's seen some things.
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>>158623939
Atlus has publishing rights for the west and even then they have said it's completely up to sony they don't give a fuck.
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>>158623982
>That chick has the 1000 yard stare. She's seen some things.
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>>158623160
I hope so, I never did play Demon's
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>>158626108

Honestly, I'd buy a PS3 just for that fucking game.
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>>158626108
>>158626363
everybody talks about demon's souls, how is it like compared to bloodborne?
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>>158626598

Slow, clunky and terribly cheap looking. But it's got an atmosphere that no other Souls game has managed to capture. And unlike every Souls game after, the levels themselves are the actually difficult parts of the game. The bosses fall on the lackluster side in terms of difficulty, aside from one or two, but the levels are fucking rough.
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I'm gaining insight trying to fight this FRC Headless Bloodletting Beast cunt. The delay on his hitboxes on his stomp + slam are fucking ridiculous.
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Anyone bored/laying around want to clear fishing hamlet with me?
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>>158627374
The best option I've found to beating him solo is to say outside and to his left (your right). If you can get outside of his left foot, the hitbox on this double fist slam won't hit you and he'll very likely get stuck in loops of three or four stomp-jump-backward-stomp moves, allowing to pour damage relatively safely.
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>>158627619
Sure, what pass?
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>>158627619
yeah sure I'm down, pass ?
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>>158627880

nebula , first hamlet lamp.
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>>158627943
Awww shit, it's you again

Broccoli slug will be there in a second.
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>>158627943
took off my vileblood, ringing again
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I'm in fishing hamlet too, when can I get help senpaiiii?
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>>158627943
>>158628083
did you guys run off without me? still ringing
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>>158628360

I'll wait a couple minutes at the lamp.
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>>158628360
You set to worldwide?
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>>158628443
>>158628465
yeah worldwide password nebula
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I got kicked off psn,lemme get on again.
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>>158628443
>>158628465
just go on without me, i feel bad making you guys wait if its not gonna work anyways
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>>158628539
So that's why the session was lost, it's all good anon, still waiting.
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>>158628620
I fell down the damn stairs stairs
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>>158628751

we can wait don't worry.
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>>158628795
i need sleep good night guys
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>>158628795
Shit mang, fucking slippery slug floors
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>>158629140

ring at the last lamp
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I like Cthulu and all, but the first act of the game got me really fucking hyped for an Underworld-esque Lycans and Vampires type story and once I found out about the Amygdalas and other alien shit I felt a little cheated.
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>>158629174
Yeah, 99 insight will do that to ya
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>>158629140

I was going to silence blank anyway,100k echoes and 5 vials,lemme use the echoes and refill my vials
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>>158630062
No problem anon

Also, if we die to OoK (like we enevitably will) lets just ring at the fog gate instead of waiting by the light house
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>>158630062
Well that was a pretty good fight honestly, usually OoK is a nightmare...

Then again randoms are usually complete shitters.
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Well done anon. I think I'm gonna do the first chalices, then we'll see where I'll get to, I'll ask for help for some chalices tommorow,so I'm done for the night. Again,thanks man, /bbg/ has always been helpful in coop.
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>>158629962

That's generally what most people felt about the game to begin with, until they sit down and actually read up on some of the lore. I personally didn't enjoy the story until the inclusion of the DLC which spells out a lot more stuff and actually connects it to be Lovecraftian. More so than the base game.
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>>158629962
Was going to say "go watch Underworld then fgt", but then I saw your pic.

...Go watch Underworld then faggot.
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>need one last +27.2% triangle
>keep getting them
>has health depleted -9 on them
>mfw

I have 4 of these fuckers now.
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>tfw you play with names on and get a random friend request, but have no idea who the guy sending the request is
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where am I most likely to get co-op here:

>Fishing Hamlet
>Chalice Dungeons
>Yahar'Gul

or on my new character
>Post-Old Yharnam/BSB

I'm asking because I'll be begging and pleading for co-op soon and I don't wanna spend an hour and a half in a dingy dungeon watching youtube videos out of the corner of my eye while desperately waiting for co-op
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>>158631439
>Start of the level/OoK fog gate
>Defiled hotdog and Amygdala fog gates
>AHHH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Did they nerf OoK? I hadn't fought him in a while but holy shit he seems easy as fuck now.
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level 159 here. any hope for me to find any pvp with any of you all? looks pretty bleak so far.
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>>158631664

His difficulty pretty much entirely relies on your build. I pissed on him with my Bloodletter build, but still can't beat him on my ARC character.
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>>158631675
Pretty much no hope at all, majority of us are BL98 to BL117
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>>158631675
Most people here PvP at 80-120 or below, 120s could invade you though in Frontier and Mergo's.
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>>158631864
damn. was hopin i could do pvp without having to make a new char.
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>Decide to do some Mensis PVP
>If they're not R1 spamming, they're L2 spamming
These people do realize that people aren't just gonna stand still while they keep pressing R1 right, on top of that most have under 700 hp even as hosts and are obviously using even less than Mensis-tier gems.
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Lower Pthumerian Labyrinth, glyph dm4bzvki

Layer four, ready to take on the boss.

password is &%20=wW

ringing by the lantern
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Well, I finally did it.

I blew 48 stones and a rock on a Cane, and put a nice set of Cold and Fire Abyssal gems in it.

And while it's flashy, and nice going full Roots on beasts, this fucking thing must have a negative stagger modifier on the tricked mode. Zero hit feedback makes it quite awkward.

Was actually getting better DPS on the untricked R1 combo on FRC BSB.

Oh well. Still pretty fun.
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>enter bloodletting beast boss room
>immediately one-punched
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>>158634330
He's the ultimate karate master.
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ringing for bloodletting beast somebody please help

passcode is &%20=wW
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>>158634517
I'll come. More reason to use this newfangled Cane.
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>>158634517

If you haven't done it yet, I can try getting over there, too.
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>>158634618
let's pray the FRRC isn't going to be a cunt.

>>158634876
Just waiting here in this godforsaken chalice dungeon.

I made the mistake of not making a community shared dungeon so I can't summon randoms.
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>>158634928
SRRC*
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>>158634928
>I made the mistake of not making a community shared dungeon so I can't summon randoms.
I don't think you'll be able to summon anyone. You should be able to just hit square on the layer select screen and share it.
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>>158635079
no, that's not what I mean. The dungeon itself is shared, but it's not the premade dungeon that 99% of people make and run through.
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>>158634928

Alrighty, I'm searching.
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>>158635241
so just share the glyph, what's the problem?
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>>158635506
&%20=wW

I'm on the very last layer
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>>158635669

That's the password. Look in the bottom right when you're standing at the ritual altar in the NIghtmare. We need the Glyph code.
It looks something like ske4igwv (as an example.)
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>>158635841
oops, copied the wrong thing.

dm4bzvki
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>>158635669
>>158634928

Do you still have the Beckoning Bell going? Been searching for close to 20 minutes now.
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>>158636061
I just ducked out for a moment as of posting this but the bell was ringing the whole time otherwise.

If I can just get help with BLB, then the next chalice I make can be not ass and I can get help easier there...
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>>158636103

You could also try using a less odd password. I recall there being a bug in the ancient past of the game where you'd rarely find beckoners with numbers in the password.
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ringing

glyph dm4bzvki

passcode &%20=wW
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>>158636202
I frequently coop using "216", so if that was a bug it seems to be gone now.

Is a weird-ass password, though.
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>>158636202
I was playing with someone earlier today using this password minus the 20

try this password:
@!#ww

ringing

>>158636332
idk, someone told me that complicated and weird passwords get connected easier because there's less to check for or some shit.
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>>158636406

Ringing. Seems really iffy today though. Never had it take this long.
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>>158636608
was that you that just connected?
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>>158636805

Nope.
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thank you for the help with the beast anonymous friend!
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>>158636832
Sorry anon. I figured he would have waited for you.

>>158637198
No problem.
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>>158637269
>Sorry anon. I figured he would have waited for you.

No worries. I'm just glad he got help in the end.
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>>158637308
try finding me in the Ailing Loran Chalice

I'm at the first lamppost and ringing

pw @!#ww
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>doing castle cainhurst for the first time
>get to martyr logarius, know nothing about the fight
>he keeps spamming magic (?), okay it's fairly easy to dodge no biggie
>deal very little damage to him (using beasthunter saif), wonder if i'm even supposed to be there at that level
>get him to 60% or so

Ok not bad, slow and steady wins the ra-

>he uses some Unlimited Blade Works ass move and proceeds to kill me instantly

Alrighty then
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>>158637425

Sadly, I don't have much more time to do stuff. But best of luck, anon.
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>>158637471
What level are you and what stats?
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>>158637471

Without spoiling stuff.
Your gun is very useful at that point.
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>>158637471
I already turned the game off so i dont have them in front of me. Using a SKL build. I think im in my 30's? Beasthunter saif is at +4.
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>>158637907
>+4

yeah double that
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>>158637907
If you're in the level 30s, it's no surprise you're getting your shit pushed in.
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>>158637907
Come back when you have around 30 Vit and at least a +6 weapon.
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>>158637907

Cainhurst is like, BL50 - 60 with +7/8 generally speaking.
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>>158637868
Thanks, will keep that in mind.

>>158637937
I was holding back because i wanted to use all my upgrade stuff on blades of mercy when i get them from eileen after i kill rom

>>158637972
>>158638002
>>158638016
Okay thanks, ill probably go do rom or maybe some chalices and try again later. I was avoiding spoiling myself so i didnt know it was that level.
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Why is it so hard to make good looking females in this game? Even your waifu Yes, You looks like a donkey.
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>>158638097

Because I focus on making the eyes attractive to look at, since I cover the face anyhow.
>>158624317
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>>158638084
>when i get them from eileen after i kill rom
>I was avoiding spoiling myself
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>>158638097
Freckles can make girls look cuter to be honest. Makes the eyes more attractive.
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>>158638194
I had read that somewhere unfortunately. I guess i should have said, tried to avoid spoiling myself as much as possible.
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>>158638213
>can

Was there ever an example of freckles not increasing looks? Dark brown sun eczema does not count.
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>>158638872
Some people can be pretty damn ugly to the point where freckles wouldn't do anything, but these sliders look okay without them.

http://imgur.com/a/ptTAG
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>>158639567
Is it just me or are there only 2 slider sections posted in that imgur set?
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>>158639669
You can load the rest.
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>>158639723
Im retarded, thank you.
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realtalk does she look okay
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>>158639567
>lips make me feel like I need stronger glasses
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>>158639567

Myself, I just use the Iosefka sliders with some minor changes in terms of colours on skin/eyes/whatever.
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>>158639859
Chin/Jaw looks a bit small. Nose could be fixed and the eyes are a little too wide. Darker eyebrows would be better.
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>>158639976
I like it, looks kinda wolfish and mature.
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>>158639976
>>158640280
Looks like she got hit by a fucking door.
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>>158640535

I don't particularly mind. She's covered up 90% of the time. I'm usually too busy swinging and playing than looking at my character.
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from pls stop, i dont want to be a wizard
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>>158639859
Actually looks pretty alright except for the lips, which are a bit too big/red.
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Anyone need any help with anything?
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>>158640954

Are people actually sure that 5pwujscd drops 27.3% phys triangles? I've yet to see anything physical reach the top. Only the mage stuff reaches that high up.
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>>158642051
It's 27.2%, and they do drop. Adepts can go up to 32.6% Blunt/Thrust but those are pretty rare.
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>>158642163

Ah, so I'm basically just having pretty poopy luck then. Aight, I guess I'll just keep going.
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>>158640954
Desire sensor is real
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>>158642421

I'm guessing it's because I pretty much got a perfect Heavy Abyssal on my second try at the HBB.
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>>158641497
I need someone to help me out killing watchers for 27.2% gems on my level 30
I'd prefer to join, but am fine hosting
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>>158642489
Lucky you, HBLB gives me garbage.
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>>158642503

Wouldn't that take that much longer, just because of how slow chalice dungeon cooping is turning out to be today?
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>>158642781
Well it's L1 and the switch takes 20 seconds to pull, so it's easy to ring right by the boss door. I usually get about 90% success with killing them, but it takes forever alone without using viscerals and on such a low character.
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>>158642837
>without using viscerals

Why not use Viscerals? If you put on all 3 clawmark runes, surely you would do like, 3k damage per visceral.
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>>158642890
On a level 30? I mean, I could try it, but I don't think I would get close to that.
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>>158642890
>bl30

Viscerals scale with BL, mainly Skill, and gems. Pretty sure he'd be lucky to get 1-2k damage from Clawmark Runes.
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>>158642503

Whip up a password and I'll help out.
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>>158643069
123
Shall I ring beckoning or small?
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>>158643102

You do beckoning. Just finished up a dungeon, let me go and change a rune and I'll be right there. Which glyph are we doing?
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>>158643231
pwmf22gu
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>>158643246
>>158643231
Ringing beckoning by the boss door, anon
Hopefully you're not downscaled too badly
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>>158643295

Er. I'm entirely not used to being that downscaled. Maybe I should beckon you instead, would probably go smoother for me.
I'm not very good.
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>>158643493
I'd really appreciate that, anon
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>>158643640

Ringing my dingaling at the boss door.
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>>158643691
Went a hell of a lot quicker than my runs
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>>158643835

I was expecting them to have less health. Normally I kill them with 2 viscerals. But I'll run back there and keep ringing each time.
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>>158643892
Thanks man
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>>158643913

Or I can just get absolutely smashed. I feel silly now. I'll play less flailingly.
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>>158644048

As an addendum, does cooping introduce lag for the host? Because it feels really weird. Like it's off by just a fraction, but enough to mess with me.
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>>158644048
Don't worry about it, just happy to be in your game.
>>158644176
I'm not sure about the host, but latency makes it impossible for me to parry, sometimes they poise through my attack and only register it's hit after they hit me, so I have to be really careful
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I haven't had a 27.2% gem all day, not even one with ATK down or HP deplete, just 25/26%. Getting silly now.
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I've got 6 hours to kill, gonna start a new character. Anyone up for a lengthy Co-op sesh?
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>>158644930
I would, I want to start a new character, but I can't until I get a good looking character that I'm happy with. I'm autistic like that...
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>>158644217

Goddamnit. It's that delayed one-handed swing the club fucker does that always fucks me up.
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>>158644987
Makes two of us then. Need to do my sliders too which I could easily spend all day on. Can't decide between an executioner build or a self-roleplay.
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>>158645121
I mostly like doing cosplay builds, but aren't really talented enough to match faces to any famous characters
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Candyflossman, I have time for about 2 more before I have to head out. Assuming I don't fuck up again, as tends to be the case.

You got anything good in our few runs?
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>>158645547
>You got anything good in our few runs?
Nah. Hopefully I get something good before you have to go.
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>>158645584

Well. That still remains to be 2, I think. Because I got that fun little thing where I moved too far and the other guy just whacked me in one hit.
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>>158645283
I've been working on Snoop Dog for a couple days, shitty phone pic but what do you think?
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>>158645773
I kind of see it, but it's the sort of thing you'd have to tell people is Snoop Dogg and they'll go "ah right, yeah"
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>>158645584

Alright, that's me for now. Sorry for being a mess, I'm not used to them having that much more health so there's more time for mistakes.
Here's to hoping you find someone else to help you out. You were really useful in keeping them busy after all.
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>>158646075
Thanks for the help anon, yeah hopefully someone else will come along and give me a hand, farming these guys solo is a massive pain in the ass
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How do people usually allocate their status during speed runs? I am thinking dumping Vit and Skill but I don't know to what degree.
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Would anybody else be nice enough to host some watcher attempts for me?
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Does anybody remember that Anon who took those amazing panaroma pictures? Anyone got the links to download them?
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>>158638097
Because the Hunter's garb is very concealing. This isn't Kill la Kill, Anon.
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Defiled chalice dungeons:
10% health rune
7% physical reduction rune
Which is more useful?
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>>158647846
Depends on the situation. Health rune helps if you plan on facing something that can one-shot you. Physical reduction rune helps if you plan on facing something that can hit you frequently. They have a very good synergy effect when you get both.
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>>158648036
With the 50% health reduction though, I wasn't sure if 10% hp would be better in any scenario.
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>>158648279
If you couple the reduction runes with the health rune you can take a considerable amount of damage in defiled chalice. With a 10% rune and some phys redu runes I could take about 3-4 hits from Amygdala. But this also depends what your vit is at. Low vit wont benefit from 10% runes.
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>as people know, the ai does weird things when you've been playing the game/been in rest mode for some time
>legarius is known to not do anything
>headless bloodletting beast animation cancels his attacks like an absolute madman
>suffering through the latter
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I'm at the seaside lads, frenzy has never been lower!
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>>158649292
It has been fixed long ago.
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How many times did the Cleric Beast kill you the before you killed it the first time? I count up at least dozens of times before I avenged my blood echos that it took from me.
>mfw
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>>158651028
Three times. As for Gascoigne, he killed me five times. I played every Souls game before Bloodborne but I still had a slow start.
After Gascoigne everything went smooth though, I only got stuck with Ebrietas, Ludwig and Orphan.
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>>158651028
Cleric beast? First time.
Gascoigne was probably 2.
BSB about 10...
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Bought Bloodborne as the DS3 DLC is not going to save the game. Do I need to use that shitty pistol? So far I have been using the axe double handed and it's working out fine, just beat that blood beast boss in Old Yarnham.

tl;dr, do I need to use that crappy pistol? Ever?
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>>158651582
The pistol is for parrying, not for damage.
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>>158651396
I've counted those two killing me at least 20 times before I could get pass them. Amila killed me at least 10 times. Second profile? Killed the Cleric Beast with one try, but Gascoigne managed to add at least five more tallies to his record of killing me.
>>158651539
I managed to kill BSB quickly, but I think that was because I may have been a little OP for that fight.
>was around level 40+ or 50
>used +6 Saw Cleaver and a +6 Threaded Cane with a fire gem
Didn't even take anywhere from 4 minutes probably. I was more disappointed that I didn't hear its theme as long as I wanted to. Strange how it didn't just rush me the moment I stepped into the Church of Good Chalice. BSB must be lazy. Besides it and CB the only other bosses I didn't have a hard with were the Undead Giant, Beast Possessed Soul, and the Merciless Watchers.
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>>158651582
Peestol is fine. You've got low BT and haven't fortified it much.
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>>158651815
You had a hard time with the witch of Hemwick?
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>>158651982
Wasn't really a hard time. Just finding those deranged bats, killing one bat before it could be brought back by the other bat was annoying. I lost to them maybe only once, but the Mad Ones were what got me.
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>>158651931

Pistol looks gay to a Souls player, I'm only two hand big weapons like a man. Strength build ftw, will never level skill. I hope I can finish the game without having to use it.
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>>158652352
There are other firearms too.
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>>158652352
>Pistol looks gay to a Souls player, I'm only two hand big weapons like a man.
The axe is good but even it is not infallible. But the gun is good. It shoots death, and purifies the tainted streets of the beastly scourge.
Plus what >>158652460 said. There's the Blunderbuss(never uses it), repeating pistol, Evelyn, Ludwig's Holy Rifle, the cannon, Flamesprayer, Rosarius, Church Cannon, and the Gattling Gun.
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>>158652352
>pistol looks gay

Found the platefag

Just take the blunderbuss, huge fucking shothun
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/bbg/ why is Ludwig such a horribly designed bullshit boss fight?
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>>158652352
>implying there are no left hand big weapons
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>>158653691
I should have added that to this >>158652684
>>158653569
What's wrong with Ludwig?
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What the fuck was his problem?
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>>158653879
Besides not wearing more clothes, or wearing that Pyramid Head cosplayer hat?
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>>158652684

I don't want to use guns, they don't appeal to me. The reason I asked is because I thought the gun parry mechanic had to be used in the game, but if that is not the case, I will not use any of them.
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>>158637471
Fight him again while playing EMIYA for a morale boost.
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>>158654174
Your call. Just sneak behind your target, and hit them from behind with a charged attack if you want Viscerals.
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Hey /bbg/, first time player here. I'm at a wit's end.

I CANNOT beat Micolash. I can't beat him legit solo and I can't even cheese him because I don't have acess to poison knives (used up all the pick ups, and haven't done chalice dungeons so no messengers.)

I'm going to have to ask one of you guys to help me out. I'm Level 58 if that makes any difference.
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>>158654174
Cannons would probably be your thing.
Nothing says "FUCK OFF" like a giant cannon strapped to your arm blasting death in 1 shot and becoming impotent the next.
It hurts like hell with the right build, but it's your call.
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>>158654631
>I CANNOT beat Micolash. I can't beat him legit solo and I can't even cheese him because I don't have acess to poison knives (used up all the pick ups, and haven't done chalice dungeons so no messengers.
You should have those. Don't you have the Radient Sword Hunter Badge?
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>>158654824
I do. That's not what you need for the P-knives though. You apparently need something from the chalice dungeons, or a pick up from Upper Cathedral Ward which only appears if you've beaten Darkbeast, which I haven't.
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>>158654929
>You apparently need something from the chalice dungeons, or a pick up from Upper Cathedral Ward which only appears if you've beaten Darkbeast, which I haven't.
I was unable to enter the Upper Ward and I have beaten Paar and BSB. Are you talking about the Loran Darkbeast or Paar?
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>>158655008
Paar. There's an item that spawns in Upper Cathedral Ward when you beat him, which allows you to buy the knives.

Anyway, anyone willing to help a brother out?
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>>158654568

So far I have been whiff punishing everything with either the Axe's L2 or the jumping R2, both of which are godlike. This weapon feels really OP for a starter thingy, it has been a cake walk so far.

>>158654807

>cannons

OK, those do sound nice. Do want. I'll keep an eye out.
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>>158655072
>Paar. There's an item that spawns in Upper Cathedral Ward when you beat him, which allows you to buy the knives.
I still don't know how to get in the Upper Ward. Kill Rom right?
>Anyway, anyone willing to help a brother out?
I wish I could help you beat a madman in a cage hat to death, but I can't get on my PS4 until 1:30 or so. Sorry. Take this fanart instead.
>>158655109
I guess sometimes starters go a long way in he long run.
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>>158655109
There's 2 cannons; vanilla and church.
Vanilla is what you expect; a giant cannon on your arm.
Church is a bit different, and fires in an arc, allowing for sneaky shots if you take advantage of the terrain. They are mid-late game, though iirc, so get used to the Axe, Ludwig's meme blade, and Kirkhammer until then.
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>>158655276
Alright, fair enough.

Anyone else available? Need some help lads.
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Hello goyim.
I'm currently stuck at Amygdala, I have a couple of questions.
1. When she does the jump thing, is there a way to predict where she's going to land? I almost always end up dodging right below her feet and she crushes me instantly.

2. How do I even hit her after her second form when she pulls out her arms? I literally get no opportunity to sneak an attack at all.
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>>158656330
>When she does the jump thing, is there a way to predict where she's going to land? I almost always end up dodging right below her feet and she crushes me instantly.
Point the camera towards him, or just get used to the timing.
>How do I even hit her after her second form when she pulls out her arms? I literally get no opportunity to sneak an attack at all
He'll be very open after he does the explosions attack.
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>>158655109
There is also the flame sprayer if you have an inner pyromaniac within you.
Purging filth with flame creates a beautiful symphony of death as beasts and Chikage faggots alike are roasted.

And then there's the gatling gun inbthe DLC. Beautiful as hell, and it even rapid fires multiple bullets for only 1 QS bullet, it is a sight to behold.
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>>158655740
anyone?
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>>158656660
You'll have to trek alone and git gud.
I'm sorry.
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>>158656887
not really a deal of get gud. It's literally pure luck with his spell spamming and tentacles.
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>>158656479

That gatling gun sounds way too cheap to me, like magic in the Souls games. Pew Pew Pew. I shall not add it to my arsenal.

>>158656887

Do people summon/co-op a lot in BB? I always do my first playthrough solo, it makes it so much more rewarding for me.
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>>158650153

It's an engine problem, so it can never be thoroughly fixed. Considering that I've been playing for 8+ hours, and HBLB just animation canceled two arm-slams into punches when I'm below him - which shouldn't happen simply because of how his AI works.
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>>158657162
It's not cheap. Ranged weapons and magic are balanced in this game.
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>>158657162

The Gatling Gun isn't very strong. It's a good way for a strength build to have something to deal damage with when not close and some kind of attack is happening that you can't get close, or to finish something off. But it's not powerful enough to win you any battle outright.
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>>158657162
It's not that cheap. You can't use bone ash to stregthen it, unlike the cannon which becomes like the grim reapers touch to most things if it's +10 and you have good bloodtinge. It also has a slow start-up, making it easy for people to get what you are doing.
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>>158656660
>>158656887
aaand now I'm out of blood vials and have to grind for blood echoes, having gained nothing.

What a fantastic health system.
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>>158657012
You could try poison.
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>>158657670
as I've already explained, I can't get my hands on any poison knives.

I'm also very certain they patched it.
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>>158657709

Well, if you want, I can co-op with you and kill him for you if you really just want to move on.
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>>158654631
all you need to do in his second phase is to
1)strafe sideways around him (if his back is against a wall, dodge away from the wall and continue strafing
2)R1 2-3 times after each of his augur misses (you can spam until your stamina is gone but it might be risky) Also be careful depending on what weapon you're using: if you're using untricked kirk or ludwigs, the third and fourth chain R1s might miss if you're too close to him, so just stick to 2 attacks at a time
3) sometimes he will throw a punch at you instead of using augur. this is okay, as it doesn't do much damage, and if you were strafing when he throws a punch it would miss anyway

If you get hit by anything, do NOT heal, because if you stop strafing for just a moment, he will hit you with an augur if you're close or worse, A Call Beyond if you're far away. Just continue strafing and heal off of rally
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>>158631850
Augur cheese.
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>>158655276
There's a key in the area that opens up after you kill Rom
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>>158657812
Yes, please. I just got one shotted immediately after entering his second phase because I was too slow to get up from the fall. I'm getting a little frustrated.

I'm level 58. Wanna use a password?
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>>158658359

Make a password anyhow. I'll check if I have a character around that level. Otherwise I'll just go there on my current one.
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>>158658481
If you connect via passwords you don't need to a similar blood level.
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>>158658359
you can lock on to him and hit him with a plunging attack as you fall to prevent that from happening
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>>158658481
okay, password is bbg
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>>158653569
But he's not
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>>158658664

Wow, I have no clue what happened there. I've never gotten one-shot by him like that. I'm even wearing arcane resistance gear.

Are you sure you're not on NG+ or something? He gets like a million ARC in NG+.
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>>158658664
>>158659130
Where ye ringing? I have many many poison knives and arc projectiles to cheese his ass.
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>>158659130
Nope, not on NG.

Got killed. Try again? Gimme a minute to just sell some gear so I can pay for blood vials.
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>>158659241

Don't do that. Just try to avoid getting hit and I'll deal with him, I'll put on some more arcane resistance shit. I'm still awestruck, I've never seen Micolash just go fucking Gandalf like that.
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>>158659241
Not on NG+
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>>158659340
Alright, heading to bell now.
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>>158659469
Where you lads ringing? I can help out, I know where to cheese him, I'm chock full of projectiles
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>>158659340
>I'm still awestruck, I've never seen Micolash just go fucking Gandalf like that.
Webm of it? I want to see a cultist go full metal wizard.
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>>158659469

There you go lad. Now you got access to one of the better blood echoes farm spots until you hit the chalices.

>>158659691

Sadly, I didn't record it. I recorded the second run, just in case - but nothing like that happened.
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>>158660003
>Sadly, I didn't record it. I recorded the second run, just in case - but nothing like that happened.
>mfw
It's fine. Maybe I'll see him going full metal Gandalf when I finally fight the guy myself.
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If I have 99 in every stat will I have the same stats as the bloody crow npc or do they have their own special stats dictated by ng level?
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>>158660321

NPCs don't follow any of the rules that the player does. Just the fact that a NG Prospector in the Chalice Dungeons has roughly 3000 hp in the later dungeons tells you that.
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>first playthrough, hardly ever used firearms so ended up drowning in qs drops
>next playthrough, end up where I'm constantly thirsty for more bullets
Flamesprayer is a hell of a thing
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>>158661052
Now you know the path of the Hunter Zardoz. The gun is good.
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>stay away from beast's embrace because everyone said it had a terrible moveset
>try it out
>mfw at the beasthood meter

I suppose you guys meant it's a bad moveset in pvp?
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Anyone wanna do co-op Mergo's Wet Nurse?

I'm kind of exhausted and my skill level is dropping with my tiredness, and I just want to finish this shit.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ICSk8-pJkX8
Which version of CB's theme do you guys like better? The Alpha version has grown on me thanks to how chaotic it sounds, plus the screams in it makes me think of the CB going bonkers.
>Be the Cleric Beast
>the same Hunter you killed just a minute ago has shown up again for the 50th time
>yfw
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>>158662585
nvm, solo'd it.
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>>158662353
Yes, it's great for PvE but not so much in PvP.
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>>158663059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx8KTIeSnzs

Pretty amazing how the theme developed into the end product.
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is the stake driver good if i slot some fire gems on it on an arcane build?
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>>158664568
It's situational but Lead Elixir helps land the big punch for some bosses.
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Recommended Bloodletter build?

I'm guessing I begin with Military Veteran, go 50vit, but then what? I'll definitely use the tricked form primarily, but like the Chikage I like being able to use the regular form as well, so maybe a blt/str quality build would work?

Here's an idea https://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/19578
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>>158664408
10/10. I am still disappointed that we only get to fight two CBs.
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>>158664976
Military Veteran: 40+/10+/14/15/50/6 is really all you need. 15 Skill for the Chikage and Bowblade. 28 Strength if you want to use the Gatling Gun and Church Cannon. 40-50 Vit and however much End.
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>>158665136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgLcAozCAKs

>that huge fire seen from upon the rafters of the crucified BSB building in Old Yharnam
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>>158665236
I have another build for Chikage and the Bowblade, this is just for the Bloodletter.
Also I fucked up, class should have been Violent Past in the link; gets the same exact build with a couple extra points to spare
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>>158665508
I personally like to use all 3 in one build but in that case, you could go VP: 40+/11+/27/9/50/7. Gatling Gun needs 28/12 Str/Skl but Church Cannon only needs 27 Strength if you want to use it. 50 Bloodtinge is a must though imo.
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>>158665439
You would think the Beasts would learn their lesson about fire when the Powder Kegs visited them.
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>>158666937
Hey, man, even the beasts need to keep warm and cozy every once in a while.

I'm guessing somebody either tried to set the dead BSB on fire, or tried to make a small campfire, but didn't learn the basic lab safety rules about keeping fires from literally engulfing the building you're in.

Beginner mistake, really.
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>>158667159
>I'm guessing somebody either tried to set the dead BSB on fire, or tried to make a small campfire, but didn't learn the basic lab safety rules about keeping fires from literally engulfing the building you're in.
They don't have opposable thumbs anymore I'd say.
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Is there seriously any better way for me to farm Blood Chunks other than the Upper Cathedral?
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>>158670168
Rushing depth 5 dungeons or just farming gems in general will have you drowning in chunks much faster
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>>158670168
Kill easy layer 1 bosses for 2 chunks and 2 insight like the other anons told you to do in /v/. Your method is a waste of time.
I suggest farming frc watchers so you have a chance at a 27.2% gem.
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>>158670384
How does farming gems get me Blood Chunks? And, what are the bosses I need to fight to get chunks/insight? I don't understand chalices all too well
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>>158670620
Basically dungeons have 5 depths which are difficulty levels, you beat depth 1 and move onto a depth 2 dungeon etc
Each dungeon has atleast 3 but sometimes 4 layers (areas) in them, which is atleast 3 sometimes 4 bosses in the dungeon, one for each area
Depth 5 dungeon bosses have a chance of dropping 1 or 2 chunks as well as a gem, with an eye rune you're pretty much guaranteed 2 chunks and a gem with each boss kill, and a chance for a rock for killing the final boss of the dungeon

So while farming bosses for top tier gems you'll also be getting showered with chunks, and the occasional rock if you're farming the last boss
Check the OP for more specific info and whatnot
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>>158670620
whoever helps this low effort anon is a sage with everlasting patience.
Kudos to you.
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>>158671186
>>158671154
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>>158671154
Thanks anon for being patient with me
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>Ayyy lmaos are invisible to normalfags
>Arianna gets pregnant with eldritch abomination

What the fuck internet, now thanks to you guys I imagined a doujin where she gets lifted into the air and fucked by tentacles and shit when she's asleep thus why she ended up pregnant without noticing
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>>158597997
I've done some heavy abyssal farming, I'll find the easiest glyph in my opinion to sprint to layer 3 when I get home.
Its really not that bad when you skip side rooms and go for the lever only and the first two layer bosses are usually pushovers.
>>158598154
I'd recommend using the bold hunter mark to open the door first for the numerous times you'll be save scumming.
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>>158664408
Holy fuck I just remember how ungodly hyped the Project Beast trailer made me, shit was orgasmic

Still curious what that light sword thing was all about.
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Tomorrow fight club in Isz be there or I'll shit down your ass
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>>158670620
As someone who farmed up over 432 I can confirm chalice dungeons are the best way to go, depth 5 bosses drop chunks pretty frequently (especially if you have plenty of eye runes equipped)
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>>158664408
When the Hunter Axe used to have a straight handle
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>>158674483
Do the depth 1 pthnumeru glyph instead man. Less walls for lowbies who still wanna play.
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What is the best early game weapon for a STR build, Ludwig's holy sword or hunter axe?
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>>158674918
Kirkhammer
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>>158674918
LHB is Quality, so it can be a Strength or Skill weapon too. Axe is good, Kirk as well. Can't go wrong with the Saws either.
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I'm off to go kill Rom. If the pillbug kills me I'll ring one of you guys up.
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>>158675268
Thanks, I think I'll pick based on moveset then.
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>>158675268
If you're a str guy you should always use Saw Cleaver instead of Spear.
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>>158675285
Just hit her to start the fight?
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>>158675732
Leave a mean message about her on the bridge.
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>>158675875
To late. I've already begun and her kids are bothersome. At least they look like spiders unlike their mother. All of them are just sitting in the back menacingly.
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I thought we were letting bbg die?
That teaches me to listen to the counsel of elders.
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Well I died. I have failed the Spider God for not killing the Pillbug. Spiidesh, forgive me!
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>>158676210
Nah, that was just one false flagging discordfag, we shall not abandon the dream
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>>158676210
It was just one guy samefagging, you fool.
There was no council, Discord only talks about pvp and circlejerks.
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>>158676418
>>158676457
That one anon should get kicked out of the discord.
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I may need help for Rom. Password is /BBG/.
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>>158677374
Wait no it's /bbg\. My bad.
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What level should I be before tackling Yahargul? I think it might be the only path left for me to take, but it seems like it's a little too much for me currently.
Hmmm
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>>158677505
waiting to be summoned for a bit now
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Ring ring.
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>>158678032
60-70 is just right for Yahar'gul.
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>Damian uses Choir Bell every time Ebrietas does her bullshit charge
What a fucking bro. I'll always summon him from now on.
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>>158678420
How long have you been waiting. I'm at Burgertown's lamp.
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As soon as I posted I gut a Cold Abysal, but, I'm running another, so,

gjjarayk, waning Cold Abyssal. Pass is 216 if anyone's interested.
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>>158678683
15 or so minutes now
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>>158678730
Is it always this long? Wait never mind. You're here.
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>>158678818
Wew, Bad time to equip some shaman bone blades
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Well that ended horribly. Sorry for wasting your time, Anon.
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>>158679167
Nah, I'll give it another go and this time I won't fuck around with items.
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>>158679089
When are those ever useful? I've seen some videos of enemies getting betrayed because of a bone hitting them, but they seem situational at best.
>>158679265
I'll start the bell ringing.
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>>158664408
>1:05
>fucking blocking

How times have CHANGED.
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Anon, I am real sorry about that. I normally don't suck that much.
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>>158680397
This time we can just go grape on Rom, you can ignore the spiderlings for the most part in the second stage
I'm doing pretty bad myself
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I'm using blood gems with HP Depletes and you can't stop me!

It's actually not that bad, even in FRCs, since I've got an HP recovers +5 in my pistol, and most of my secondaries are HP recovers +1.
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>>158680680
I wish that did not just happen. Neat how the little ones drop Madman's Knowledge. What are they? Rom worshipers transformed into spiders?
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>>158678554
I see.
Which area should I tackle before Yahargul?
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>>158681023
Have you done Nightmare Frontier yet?

Also, how far have you upgraded your main weapon? Yahar'gul chunks should get you up to +8 or +9.
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>>158681242
+7
Done Nightmare Frontier. At least I think so, it's just Amygdala right?
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Well thanks for Rom. But I died. She got the last laugh.
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>>158681381
Apparently Rom is not as resistant to Arcane as I once thought
Also you might have to fight him again, but this time I'll just blow him up with the sword
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>>158681316
Yep. You should be fine in Yahar'gul with a +7 weapon. The chunks you'll get there will let you upgrade another one or two times.
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>>158681491
I'll just go check for the fog. If it's there I;ll ring ya up.
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>>158681557
It's not here. Maybe I should go inside and Queen Yharnam is here. Rom's toast.
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>>158681520
I see.
The path to the boss is really annoying.
The boss feels quite easy, but going through the whole process of killing the witches is troublesome, and ends up getting me killed often.
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>>158681929
Have you reached the second lantern yet? Just past there, you'll be able to unlock a shortcut, which will lead to another shortcut to the boss.
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What's the deal with the Huntsmen in the Unseen Village? Popping out of the ground like they're zombies. Why are they respawning?
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>>158682090
They're actually just puppets made out of blood, being held together by the bell ringing women's magic.
You need to kill the bell ringing women controlling any particular group of mobs before you can permanently kill them, think of them like the skeletons and pyromancers from the Catacombs
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>>158682320
I don't know what's worse: that fate or I can't farm them for Blood Echos. Amy seems to be all over the place in the Unseen Village. Hang on. Shouldn't what's her face be giving birth to a demon baby now, and Caw Caw getting beaten to death by Crowsteel?
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>>158682090
At least they're not spiders
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>>158682520
Whatca got against Spiders, Anon?
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>>158682061
I have. Currently in the room before the boss. Cleared all the annoying skeleton plants or whatever, but I can't find any shortcuts around.
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>>158682478
Arianna is pregnant right now but she won't give birth until after you kill the area boss, the crowsteel fight is ready right now.
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>>158682856
>Arianna is pregnant right now but she won't give birth until after you kill the area boss,
What about the fake Doctor? That chick and I have unfinished business.
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>>158682850
The elevator shortcut you unlocked has a drop off point midway. It leads to a rooftop. All you have to do is roll off the elevator when it passes that point, and you'll be at the dog area with the teleporting basin, which is just before TOR.

You won't have to fight Cramped Caskets that way. Also, make sure you pick up the Blood Chunks throughout the area.
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>>158683041
Oh, I see.
I remember that elevator. Thanks.
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>>158682986
Iosefka is pregnant, go get that tasty umbilical cord anon
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Are Arc builds viable in pvp?
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>>158683547
Of course they are, clown.
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>>158683490
She dead. I'm typing up all lose ends here. Had to put Gilbert down Ol'Yeller style.
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>>158683596
How do they stack up against other phys based min max builds? what about against BT builds?
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Someone looking for coop? Doing defiled hotdog right now and planing to go all the way to the Queen. Just say the pass and I'll let you join.
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>>158683848
I'm down for that.
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>>158683848
Oh Jesus I'll join

Pass?
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>>158683848
the pass
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>>158683990
>>158683963
Pass is beast. Beckoning at lantern
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>>158683693
Good, I mean with good arc gems on your weapon you basically have a melee build with a few extra moves like shooting tentacles out your hand and homing skulls.

Kos Parasite builds are the most fun though.
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Next up on the loose end list: Crowsteel. Wish me luck.
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Not entirely sure which attack even killed me there
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Will it happen
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>>158684476
What weapons are worth points for stat allocation?
I'm looking at mugen and my bl is getting sort of high with 99arc.
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>>158684781
None, use weapons with no requirements
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>>158684702
Part of me wants a sequel, just have more, even if it's literally just the same thing again, I'd take that NO problem, and it gives /bbg/ some nice new stuff.

But the other part knows it'd be a b-team shitshow made by people who had no idea what made the first game so good.
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>>158684781
Pretty much everyone weapon can be a good arc weapon if you slap a single cold abyssal one it, with the exception of the bloodtinge weapons, blade of mercy, or burial blade
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>>158684967
It would be shit even if it was made by the finest staff of FromSoftware, just like any other sequel of games that are meant to be standalone.
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>>158684702
To be perfection honest I really hope not, I love Bloodborne but we all know what happened with DaS2 and DaS3. Wouldn't mind a new DLC though but we all know that will never happen at this point.

DeS port/remaster or new IP is what I'm holding out hope for now.
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>>158684168
Well... That took some time. At L3, when I unlock the gate will wait at lantern.
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>>158684927
So if I want 99 arc use starter weapons? I figured I'd just level to 120-140.
>>158684994
Yeah I thought so, whats bbgs favourite arc conversion weapon?
Thinking of grabbing an elec saif that ive heard so much about.
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>>158684702
I don't want a repeat of dark souls 2 or 3 so no, even though bloodborne could improve a shit ton from a sequel.
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>>158685317
Fire saw cleaver just because it absolutely melts everything in pve, arc runs are fucking trivial once you know how to do them.
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>>158685317
People go 99arc to nuke everything with arcane tools, if you want a build that focuses on weapons you're using the wrong one.
There's also Kos Parasite which is really nice.
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>>158684781
You don't need 99 arc to make an arc build good for PvP. 50 is enough and 70 is even more enough.

>>158685317
>I figured I'd just level to 120-140.
Jesus. Just go 25/25/99 and use every weapon, then.
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>>158685564
There's no substantial difference between 50 and 70
Either go 50 or 90-99
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>>158685267
Damn it, so close... Beckoning again
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>Rom looks exactly like a caterpillar
>Ebrietas is the name of a lepidopter species
>Ebrietas is found in the altar of despair, praying in front of a Rom shed
>Rom's shed grants rebirth, just like caterpillars are "reborn" when they become butterflies and moths
Ebrietas is Rom in the waking world.
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Is Crowsteel suppose to be able to one shooting you with just his gun? I think he got a lucky shot. I might need some backup.
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>>158686636
I can help if you want just put a pass
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>>158686636
You can't summon for Crowsteel.

But yeah, it's common for him to deal tons of damage with his gun. Try parrying him.
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>>158686636
If you have sub-30 Vit probably, especially if you were open. You can't summon for the fight, Wooden Shield can block the bullets okay.
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>>158686778
But >>158686793. I've been trying that. This is going to be take 9.
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>>158686636
Yes, crowsteel is without question the hardest NPC fight in the game.
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>>158686917
Take 10. Maybe I should just try to poison or use some bolt on him.
>>158687094
What were they thinking when they thought of him.
>Let's make a Not!Eileen but evil!
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King Doran could kick Cainhurst Crow's ass easily.
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>>158686213
So now I need to farm ritual blood. Do I run Loran 5 times or just rush Wet Nurse and Gehrman?
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>>158687179
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>>158686432
But Ebrietas was found in the CD and brought to the surface by the Healing Church. What if that is just Rom's corpse in the waking world and she's just looking at it?
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Beatsy, we doing Ihyll now?
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>>158687179
I think he's supposed to be a parody and prediction of edgy soul players, think about it
>Mismatched armour set, mixing of course the helmet and crow garb
>Blood katana
>Super powerful gun
>Starts the fight with the nothin' personnel bone
Dude is basically the proto-version of every tryhard edgelord in BB
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Anon doing Defiled Pthu > Yharnam still playing?
Sorry about earlier; the dog killed me then I had to take care of some IRL stuff.
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>>158687585
>>158687414
I'm Loraning
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>>158687686
That's genius! As if I needed another reason to not join the Vilebloods. I can't join something with an edgelord like Crowsteel in it. Makes me want to smack Alfred around for his master doing a horrible job of removing Vilebloods.
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>>158688187
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>>158687993
Got all the way to layer 3 before noticing that what I need is at layer 1. At least now I know
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>>158688805
Every time.
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Post your waifu hunters
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>>158689252
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>>158688927
Let us now when you're ready for Ihyll
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>>158689252
you need to crack your neck as soon as possible
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Getting ready to do a bloodtinge build for the first time, anything i need to know?
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>>158689560
Love you too sweetie
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>>158689679
Yeah: Don't.
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>>158689679
Don't be surprised if you start speaking Korean.
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>>158689421
P.good
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>>158689679
Have lots of free fucking time m8
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>>158689842
>>158690018
Nothing wrong with using normal physical gems instead of offshapes
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>>158689425
Done. Pass is beast, BL 89, at Ihyl L1, all the way to the Queen. Will ring at lantern and wait a minute and a half after the first summon.
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>>158690175
No, nothing wrong. If you can live with being inadequate, it's totally fine.
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>>158690236
Ringadingin
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>>158690236
Beckoning again
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>>158691418
It's hard without parrying. Beckoning again
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>>158691924
I think beast roar shall be the answer
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>>158692035
Well, now I'm a 98. Time to roar.
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Is this build salvageable?
I don't wanna go over 120 but I also wanna use Arcane tools
I was thinking of getting to 27 endurance and then 80 arcane
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>>158692235
HMPH HMPH HMP- Oh, sorry. Ringing again.
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>>158692554
You really don't need any more Endurance than what you already have.

Maybe bring Strength up to 25 and use the Logarius's Wheel. Or, invest in Vitality, as you're lacking much of it now.
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>people who parry spam always seem just as surprised when they get caught by a jumping attack

It's like we have at least 4 other games to prove the fact that parry spamming basically never works.
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>>158692554
This build is all over the place honestly.
You don't have enough vitality (45 is the minimum), more endurance than you'll ever need and 7 points in arcane that won't really make a difference for any of your tools.
Arcane gets diminishing returns after 50, and the scaling increases again after bl.80.
I think you should either restart or become over-levelled.
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>>158692813
The arcane is what I have currently, and I plan on getting it to 80, maybe 90 if I have too much endurance
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>>158692591
Fucking finally. Beckoning at L2
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>>158692554
40-50 Vit and you can pump Arc a bit. You're okay everywhere else, it's definitely savagable. 20 End is the most I'd recommend with a Stamina Rune.
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>>158692803
People who gunspam are surprised when you strafe left.
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>>158693084
Yeah sorry. I was goofing off with my Stake Driver. I've been doing FRCs all day and I kinda forgot that non-FRC depth 5s don't exactly play around.
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>>158693124
>>158692813
Maybe something like this would work?
I got strength to 18 because I heard the whirligig saw is pretty good
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>>158693396
Totally, you could also use a Fire Stake Driver for those sick oiled charge r2s on the tricked mode.
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>>158692803
>When someone gunspams until they've completely run out bullets and start R1 spamming, then you parry them with your very first shot
My greatest disappointment in life is not being about to see their faces
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>>158693084
We got rolled good
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The whole 70% HP thing is still kind of new to me, too.
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Hey, /bbg/, this is Rom. Isn't she cute?

Say something nice to her.
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>>158693396
Faggots like this don't go to the weekend FCs, right?
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>>158693892
This is my first character
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>>158693892
120 is literally the maximum you could be to FC, there's nothing wrong with going that high.
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>>158693396
problem is, the whirlgig saw is good if you have high strength
18 isn't enough to make it good

at this point I'd recommend just grabbing kos parasite and going full arcane

don't be afraid to start a new character
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>>158693932
Don't worry about builds, and don't bother trying to make something for PVP on your very first run, seriously.

Tackle that on your second playthrough, where you'll be able to plan accordingly beforehand and ensure that your stats won't be all over the place.
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>>158694002
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>>158694063
You don't need more than 18 str if you have elemental gems.
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>>158694063
You do know Whirligig Saw can be converted right? It gains nothing from going above Str/Skl requirements on an Arcane build.
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>>158694101
>not being able to handle 120s
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>>158694490
>needing a 22-level handicap and still getting your shit pushed in
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>>158694490
Layer 3, boys! And what ever Inka is...
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>>158694693
>implying I have a 120 character
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>>158693885
What did rom look like when she was human?
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>>158693885
Gross
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>>158694862
Tall and pale like the average Pthumerian
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>>158692803
>>158693312

It seems like it's a 50/50 draft of that particular kind of player in Mensis.
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>>158695284
At least that guy had 1500hp
>tfw everyone you fight in Mensis has sub 800hp and shit gems
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Thanks to Tobias and Inka, I'm now able to begin looking for heavy abyssals. I'll take a break and see if I'm up to it.
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>>158695621
You could have been going into FRC Ihylls as soon as you had the Ihyll Root Chalice.
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can somebody help me out with living failures? First boss I've had to summon for so far and they're kicking my ass
Password is /bbg/
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>>158695621
Glad to help!

>>158695886
Give me just a minute and I'll be right there
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Seriously is there any more annoying weapon to pvp WITH than the SHITkage?

I know you can bait but this weapon has nothing when it comes to attacking first how the fuck do you play aggresively don't even say unzipping since that shit is a whole 2 seconds and that's a joke when battling
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>>158695284
Oh yeah i've had many a fight with levai. They are really really bad when you whip out your 50blt eve and outtrade every shot they chuck out.
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>cant beat Rom or Logarius
>been at it all day
If anyone wants to help I've about given up, I suck too much at this game. Summoning the NPCs just made the fight harder.
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>>158695990
Unzip and hold it for some time. Playing aggressively with the chikongo is mainly what I do.Mixing up the timings on the unzip actually fucks with peoples roll timings.
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>>158696049
Logarius is hard as shit, and Rom can be fought much later than most players typically try.

You should do Hypogean Gaol and Nightmare Frontier first.
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>>158696148
Got any references? I really want to just copy THE best chikage pvp fighter
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>>158696210
How do I get to either of those?
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>>158696049
DSP beat them both, are you saying you're worse than DSP? Do you want to be known as "that shitter on /bbg/ that's worse than DSP" ?
Get back at them and don't fucking quit. You're a hunter, act like it.
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>>158696029
>They are really really bad

I felt really bad for him. He's obviously trying. I didn't have the heart to finish him off after I won and he sent a message wondering how I did so much more damage than him.
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>>158695886
Forgot to ask, where you ringing?
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>>158696230
Eh. Bloodborne dosn't really have a youtube community due to e-celeb autism about it not being exactly like Dark Souls PvP. Good Chikage players normally show up to the FC's so turn up tomorrow and you might learn a few things.
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>>158696280
You get to Hypogean Gaol by getting killed by a sackman, and you get to Nightmare Frontier through the Lecture Building. You get to that by getting grabbed by the invisible giant enemy on the other side of the Grand Cathedral while you have the Tonsil Stone.

>>158696230
You don't "play aggressively" with Chikage. You either play completely reactively, or you just spam dash and occasionally shoot until you get an interrupt, then unzip.
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>>158696385
By the bonfire next to the elevator
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>>158696496
Coola boola I'm there

Pass has the slashes, right? It's /bbg/ and not bbg? Just want to make sure.
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>>158696601
It does. I just got summoned by him.
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hey guys i'm gay.
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>>158696703
>tfw not summoned
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>>158696784
>>158689203
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>mfw I just finally killed Crowsteel
And now I can ease an old woman to her death.
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>>158696803
We're waiting for ya, I think. Not sure if the host is still ringing or not, but we're standing here lol
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>>158696230
Last time someone posted a Chicago PvP vid, bbg flipped their shit. But here ya go:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EVt3lMe5Pls
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>>158696949
I'm ringing, and the bell is working
Waiting on him, but if you wanna go kill them now let's just run there
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>>158696967
>bbg flipped their shit
Calling some guy a faggot for advertising his unzip montage isn't exactly "flipping their shit".
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>>158697003
Go on lads, been online for a while and should restart, good hunting
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>>158696293
>dsp beat them
Ok now I really can't give up.
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>>158696943
You did a good thing anon
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>>158697162
He did say he'd post it only once, and he does participate in the FCs regularly. Don't be so sensitive anon.
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>mfw HBLB drops +36 str scaling/+12 phy/-7.5% ATK 4 times in a row
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>>158697324
Is there anything fire can't solve? Well, heal Caw Caw but that's besides the point. Now I have to get all the Blood Echos I need to get Eileen's gear and rip and tear some hunters who have gone wild.
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>>158697513
Farming HBLB? Mind if I join?
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>>158696481
I literally found that right before seeing your post, I remembered to kill that second hunter that I left alive and found a path, got killed by Amygdala while someone with Patche's voice laughed at me and then woke up in the lecture hall.
This game is fucking amazing.
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>>158696943
S-shut up, she's not dead! She just went away after she got her much needed rest and went to go live out a comfy retirement.
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Thanks for the help, anon
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>>158697839
She was too good for this cruel world, anon.
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>>158697162
To be fair to him. He uses way more than a chikage in that video.
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>>158697839
I certainly hope it's not in Yharnam. This place is not comfy.
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>>158697839

>This is what dreamfags actually believe

Fuck you if I couldn't save Gascoigne's loli for marriage you can't be happy either
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>>158697958
So show me her body.

Eileen crawled away and healed up.
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>>158698204
Well, why don't you show me where she retired to, then?

Granny sure left no blood trails on her way out.
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>>158698375
Heh, like she wants you to follow her. Not this time, kiddo.
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>>158698191
>Fuck you if I couldn't save Gascoigne's loli for marriage you can't be happy either
>Fuck you if I couldn't save Gascoigne's loli for marriage
>save Gascoigne's loli for marriage
Anon, I'm sure the last person she'd marry is the guy who gave her dad the Ol'Yeller treatment.
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>>158698509
I mean, she doesn't know that, does she?
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>>158698604
What is she going to think? That her papa is on an eternal quest to find his wife?
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>>158698835

>MFW you lack the insight to tell a kid he dissapeared or got taken out by the enemy

Face it you're no hunter
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>>158699254
Maybe not but the guilt will get to you.
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>>158699441
He will be drowning in loli juice to feel anything else
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Anyone want to help me out with Living Failures Password is Dutch
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>burnt out on bloodborne hard
>want to play it so badly

help
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>finally got a perfectly gemmed STR church pick
>mfw becoming death incarnate
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>>158701186
Post gems
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>>158701228

2x heavy abyssal
1x 27.2% phy
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>>158701302
>perfectly gemmed
>no 32.6% thrust
What secondaries and curses?
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>>158701090
I know that abstract feel...
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>that feel when you run out of insight and the doll isn't talking to you anymore
It's strange. I went to get some insight just so she can talk again.
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>>158701385
>>158701302
>>
What were your weapons on a first time playthrough?
I started by choosing saw cleaver
Moved on to the axe and abused the charge a little bit
Then used Ludwigs until the end of the game
I was playing blind, found out I was using crutch weapons all on my own. Same with DaS3, used dark sword and then went online to find everyone calling it drake sword 2.0, feels bad man
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>>158702451
Crutch weapons don't exist. Stop giving a fuck about herd mentality
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>>158702451
I went with the Axe + Kirkhammer my first time through.

And then I did a Skill build with the Burial Blade and now I can't stop going back to it, despite having made a Bloodtinge and an Arcane build.
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>>158702545
I'd be more inclined to believe you if you replied to the subject instead of a single comment. Makes you look triggered about the implication that a weapon you may have used is considered a crutch.

>>158702632
I'm pretty much the same with the church pick. Every build I make I use it (aside from BLT obviously)
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>>158701302
Even if both Heavy Abyssals have +15 Flat Phys as secondary effect, one Heavy and two 32.6% Thrust Gems is still ALWAYS better (except maybe the L2).

I'm assuming you have 50 STR, 14 SKL.
>>
So what do you after you pretty much hit before NG+???

I'm trying to make BLT, ARC and whatever other type of builds are there

Can farm echoes easily in Mergo's Loft to reach levels but do I really have to do chalice dungeons with each and every character in order to get gems and specific weapon types? fuck
>>
>>158701053
Still need help?
>>
>>158703129
yeah please thanks, want me to summon the old hunter?
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>>158703234
Nah no NPCs. I'll be there in a sec. Lamp or fog?
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>>158703321
Fog
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>>158702731
>saw cleaver cheeses game with fast attacks, serrated damage, chain backstabs
>saw spear cheeses the game with same things plus thrust attacks
>threaded cane cheeses the game with huge moveset, fast attacks, long range angled whip attacks, serration
>hunter axe cheeses the game with versaility and spin to win
>rifle spear cheeses the game with thrust damage and r2 that beats everything
>ludwig's holy blade cheeses the game with stunlock, best damage scaling, huge cleaves
>kirkhammer cheeses the game with moveset that covers every situation
>blade of mercy cheeses the game with dash/backstab attacks, single target stunlock and massive dps
>chikage cheeses the game with insane damage and lets you kill bosses with guns and bone marrow ash easy
>whirligig saw cheeses the game with stunlocks, big cleaves, massive damage
>simons bowblade cheeses the game because lol range huge damage
>holy moonlight sword extra cheeses the game with maximum damage, all the benefits of ludwigs, high damage ranged attacks
>cannon/flamesprayer cheese half the game each
>arcane anything cheeses the game by letting you hit every bosses weakness and using overpowered hunter tools

These are just the weapons I've tried out, but so far it seems like everything is fucking good if you just take advantage of it

>my point doesn't stand because I didn't say which weapon i picked
I used saw cleaver and pistol my first run, and personally I consider saw cleaver to be a better weapon than the axe. You're the one concerned with beating yourself up over nothing
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>>158703406
Sorry about that. Hope you can finish it out. Felt like I was getting downscaled quite a bit.
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>>158703789
I got killed in the last moments, wanna give it one more go?
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>>158703868
Yeah absolutely. Already ringing at the fog.
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Good night, /bbg/.
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>>158703439
I don't think you quite understand what "cheesing" is.
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>>158704116
Sweet dreams, anon
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>>158704116
Sleep tight, good hunter.
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>>158702451
Axe at first
Went to Kirk after Cleric
Switched to Ludwigs shortly after BSB (I killed Amelia before BSB just as a heads up)
Used the LHB until Rom
After several attempts at Rom switched back to Kirk
Beat the rest of the game with Kirk

I really liked the Kirk, LHB just didn't feel satisfying enough, with the hammer you felt like every attack you made shook the ground.
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>>158703906
I got it!
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>>158704336
Oh you.
>>158704446
Thanks. I think I am in love with the Blade of Mercy now.
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>>158702451
Started with cleaver, then with spear, then church pick.
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>>158704575
Cheers
>>
>>158704519
I never got to grips with kirk hammer, it always felt weaker than it should've been. I want to like it. Maybe with a couple adept gems it'll sway me.
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Is anybody in need of assistance? Or would like to host 27.2% farming for my low level? <3
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>>158704671
Kirk's opening R1 has a faulty hitbox that makes only the shockwave register a great deal of the time. You either have to suck it up, or open with an L2 instead.
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>>158704805
I've about an hour to spare.

I'll host some farming. Radials or Triangles?
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>>158704923
Radials would be nice, anon.
Will ring small bell by the boss in pwmf22gu, pass: 123
Many thanks
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>>158704923
>helping some faggot-ass twink be a faggot-ass twink
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>>158705215
I'm not a twink, low level helper actually. Level 30.
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>>158704923
>Segalt
I've played with you on so many different characters so far now, anon lol
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>>158705571
Kek, good to see you again, anon.
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>>158705665
Sorry about that, latency makes parrying impossible and sometimes my attacks don't register on the watchers immediately.
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>>158706035
Don't worry about it; I understand.
>>
Okay guys, here again. I need dire help with the Blood Starved Beast in the Ailing Loran Chalice. I am trying to do stuff at a lower level, so my damage and Vit arent great. Password is Dutch
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>>158702451
I used the Axe on my first playthrough, can't remember what else I used though
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>>158706357
Just circle left or right with high poison resist.
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>>158706357
I can help with him no problem, give me just a minute to boot up
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>>158706592
Excellent, Thanks
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>>158706357
Which layer?
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>>158707151
2
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>>158706663
Sorry for the wait, I found I hadn't an Ailing Loran open so I just wanted to blast past Beast-Possessed, being in the actual location should make summoning easier than waiting on SRRC.
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>>158706035
Jesus, sorry about that.
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>>158707151
That grab diddled me hard.
One more go?
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>>158707545
Don't worry about it, happens to the best of us.
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>>158707885
Jesus you got someone else, cucked out of two co-ops tonight

You ringing at fog or lamp?
>>
Shiieet, reringing.
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>>158707994
He's at the fog
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Alright, which of you cheeky fuckers is running around Mensis with a non-cauliflowered Kos Parasite?
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>>158705215
What's the point of twinking anyway?
At this point everyone in forbidden woods and similar areas is a twink, low level pvp is identical to high level pvp.
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>>158707919
How horrifying
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New thread, get in:

>>158708889

>>158708889

>>158708889

>>158708889
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>>158708780
You've obviously never tried a Flat Arc Wheel as a Twink, shit's pretty ruthless.
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