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nothing on
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“and if you get to live out your dream every single day, then the result doesn’t matter. i can look back 20, 30 years from now and be able to look at this time and say, ‘you know what, i gave everything i had to football. i gave everything i had to baseball, and i was able to live out some dreams.’ and in my opinion, that’s pretty awesome.”
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>WCS Global Playoffs 4h 46m
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>>158550434
i want to exhibit this exhibitors feet
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tim tebow

our guy
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will he, though??
that's the problem...
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anything good to watch???
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>>158550837
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH1Nwo93h5Q
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>>158550949
where is the sc2 representitive...
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>>158550949
>monte cristo
>semmler
no
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capitalist has the worst voice in esports history
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never even heard of semmler of capitalist
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>>158550382
i'm going to sleep in a couple hours though...
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what do the different destiny colors mean?
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*creates a revolutinary marxist movement*
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>>158551502
bernie...
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*rapes a girl at an esports event*
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i hate destiny and dont watch him. my hatred for him has recently doubled ever since he became a full time deb8r

look at all this garbage
https://www.youtube.com/user/destiny/videos
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>>158551975
that's what poltards do
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>>158552019
>stem
>nigger
lol?
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do NOT fall for this guy

it's destiny trying to shill for himself by pretending he doesn't like destiny but get us to look at his youtube

kill yourself shitstainy we don't want to watch your shitty garbage videos
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we love destiny for his debates and we try to emulate him
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>>158552084
*tips*
m'edgemeister
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>>158550382
cute!
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>>158552106
wording this

why would someone who hates destiny have a screenshot of destiny from lotv launch
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*opens wikipedia*
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destiny post ITT before you debate sargon i dont want to miss it
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>>158552106
not a shill. i hate him. i thought about not linking it for that reason, but the effect you get when you see all those retarded stream titles at once cant be described in words
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>>158552437
shut. up.

destiny.

stop shilling your videos you retarded FREAK
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>>158552437
the only thing that gets me more mad than seeing all those video titles is actually watching each one from beginning to end GRRR nothjing makes me madder when is he going to stream again so i can get my blood pressure up watching his stream and participating in his chat
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what game should i play
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destiny should learn all the logical fallacies if he wants to debate real people
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>>158552557
*grabs crotch*
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destiny taught me financial literacy
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destiny taught me how to think not what to think
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>>158552557
quake
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i listen to destiny for the right opinions
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i watch destiny for the high level league of legends gameplay
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sickzii please give me the dickzii >.<
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>>158553094
b*tch his analfuckzii belongs to me
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>sickzii samefag erp hour
cya later
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>>158553283
dont come back
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>>158553283
it's just sickzii forcing himself as usual, don't go
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i hate this general so much, and all of you too
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i love this general so much, and all of you too
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>>158554574
+1

>>158554294
-1
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>ptitdrogo getting BTFO by dark
this should be pretty good tbqh
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Hey, I want to get into SC2, I bought and finished the wings of liberty singleplayer. Whats the next best?
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https://www.twitch
.tv/artemis_areum
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBz-XkBstao
A FUCKING GOD
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>>158554718
lotv starter edition
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trump might surprise clinton ;)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbFoUTc_J18
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ptitdrogo might surprise dark ;)
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ptitdrogo in blizzcon finals... lol just lol
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>>158554857
Haven't been in sc2gen for a while
Didn't know we liked DJT here
I thought most of you guys were cucks
You're just misunderstood and in pain, because of the deadgame
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>>158552557

is civ VI playable now or does it need a patch?
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phone
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we are with her btw
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>>158555463
just get an unauthorized copy and try it
it's not worth $60 at its current state
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>>158555543
+1
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our queen is eating a hamburgah~

https://www.twitch
.tv/artemis_areum
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>>158555559
thats what ive been doing i was just wondering if there was a patch soon
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>>158555625
>our queen

when i stopped being a child i stopped thinking childish thoughts and learned to like real women like eve lawrence lol
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http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Innovation
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>fat wgirl
ROFL
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>>158556312
she's not fat and she's not a girl you mongoloid, she's a fit milf like madonna or pam anderson
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^LMAO@your life
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>>158555625
if she doesnt just man the fuck up and finish eating that hamburger instead of pecking at it like a bird im going to start whispering her hate messages
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warm iu farts with chunks of kimchi flying out in my face
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imagine hanna making you eat your own omojuice and filming it... omo...
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imagine committing a hate crime against iu while listening to your kmfdm and skinny puppy playlist
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>>158555458
we are with her here
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imagine turning into a snake and crawling up IUs toilet and getting covered in black bean sauce
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>>158556585
how old was this bling guy?
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Now you too can be as sexy as Zest, or as mysterious as ByuN, or as neeby as Neeb
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please believe me
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>>158558008
chll donny
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>>158558008

every word i say is true

please forgive me
i can't stop loving you
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me, the consumer
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me, the consumer of iu's kimchi shit
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i'm p chilly
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P chills...
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just wait till i get my garden growing
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>>158559497
r u and mr cools related??
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>>158559601
aids brothers
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>>158559601
>>158559356
fuck me i quoted the wrong guy

gonna have to fix this mistake so here
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thinking of getting some up dog later today...
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>>158559748
nothing much my man hbu
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>>158559748
define updog
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>>158559680
you must be p embarassed
XD
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>>158559807
nothing much lol
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google says i fell upon a cruel prank >:/
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>>158559838
so would you say updog has no value
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didn't put enough spice in this 'afel

p disappointing, rly
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>>158559883
i'll trade you a pizza for some updog
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*concedes*
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>>158559974
theres a place near me sells the best 'el ever.
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>>158560225
so r u gonna have some 'l today then???
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wish i had some 'go 'l 'z rn..
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*eats beans*
*farts a lot*
:x
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hannah...
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one more hour guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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https://twitter.com/esportstarcraft/status/791542448111562752
fucking blizzard
cant they at least pretend they give a shit
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*studies the torah*
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2 more hours until apple event..fuck im so hype
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>>158561512
oh yeah???

when is the pear event lmao
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if i could keep IUs farts in a bottle
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>>158562738
were voting for her (hdog) here
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step 1: have a kid
step 2: fuck that kid

HAHAHAHAHA
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how do we save /scv/
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>>158562998
>>158562983
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evens watch starcrap
odds get drunk with the lads and hit on broads
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im voting for hillary because she's the lesser of two evils
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hillary is literally the greatest evil
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>>158563168
*tips*
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>>158561026
autocomplete
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drumpf is a racist idiot liar

hillary is an experienced woman
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tell me how evil the mid to late 90s are...this shit is just left over mysogny from that era. serjiously newt gingrich is a sexual predator and thats why he's offended and on his like 5th wife
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>evil hag bitch, multiple-time felon, fake charitable foundation used to move money around from donors to circumvent the law, instigating nuclear war with russia
>guy who says mean things :(((((((
who on earth should i vote for?!?!?!?!? they both just seem "equally" "bad"?!?!?!?
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they're not equally bad

trump is worse
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>le he just says mean things xD meme
drumpfkins LOL
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>>158563290
are they both reptiles
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trump is winning retards
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https://www.twitch
.tv/starcraft
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hes a racist and sexist and literally hitler!!! cnn told me so!!! that matters more to my vermin leftist rat brain than nuclear war!!!
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>>158563640
why would you need cnn when you can just hear it from him? LOL
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the meme train has left the station
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>>158563682
old egpytian gods are literally conspiring to help trump win
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>i think trump is going to win
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>>158563835
trump might just surprise the kikes ;)
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there is literally, i mean literally, nothing more ironic than a white, straight, billionaire, male saying the system is rigged against them.
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GUYS

WCS IS ON

GUYS PLZ TALK ABOUT WCS!
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So Scarlett is a girl, right? but she has a penis?
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>>158563958
kike detected
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>>158563958
kek
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>>158563958
add middle-aged and you have a collection of all groups of people you can insult without being called a racist
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>>158564004
maybe this is more ironic
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>>158563319
the late 80's were better.
https://youtu.be/stsnlTZG84Y
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>>158564019
geb is helping too
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>>158564113
its funny cause he would pay >women to suck his dick
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>>158563986
scarlett is a girl who was born with a penis but doesn't have a penis anymore
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>>158563958
well
consider my privilege checked ;)
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>>158564019
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wow i got lots of work to do today *logs into world of wrcraft* i guess it can wait tomrrrow
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https://www.twitch
.tv/starcraft

https://www.twitch
.tv/starcraft

https://www.twitch
.tv/starcraft

https://www.twitch
.tv/starcraft
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>>158564538
whats your ilvl
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>>158564167
no one can go from being that awesome & funny to shit tier for no reason. something weird happened to him. maybe mkultra? he was worthless shitty eddie when he got caught with the tranny
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>>158564676
its the fucking weekday retard and only the group stage
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>>158564676
WE ASKED FOR IT
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>>158564728
lol
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>>158564676
its like a fucking trump rally

fucking lol
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i can't upload a photo...
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>>158564728
>weekday
literally why
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didn't even know about polt o.o
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https://www.facebook
.com/thedailyshow/videos/10154663072641800/
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>>158564951
o.o
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prepare for r*pe
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>>158564951
?
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>WELCOME...TO BLIZZCOOOOOOON
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>>158565168
he got shot during training, he's in hospital right now and might not make it :(
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>>158565168
he left for military service and forfeited blizzcon
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>equanimity
what a god
theyre really overhyping tho
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>>158565254
????????
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im based i don't care what anyone thinks
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is it happening? 4chan is getting posting error because of sc2 wcs
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HYMEN STATUS
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>>158565429
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>>158564145

what is that middle hieroglyphic?

this is the translation i got without knowing the middle:

"God _____ the wick of a lamp"
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tmobile
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DARKUUU~
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>>158565141
when did artosis get hair surgery
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WELCOME TO BLIZZCOOON
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do you think attending blizzcon would be worth it?
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calm down idiot
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>>158565437

back then i would sometimes root for players who didnt play the same race as me to win
i can't imagine doing that now
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>>158566171
i think so
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>>158566171
no?
in what world could it possibly be worth it?

i would never ever attend something so worthless
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>>158566171
yes you fucking dummy
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>>158566272
>>158566274
+1
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can we get all KR ro8 already
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https://www.twitch
.tv/playhearthstone

thijs is gonna get us some packs!!!!
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>>158566383
how will you conjure up 8 coreans to play sc2??
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>>158566473
they flew them out
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>>158566435
this game isnt an esport
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flash is streaming bw

fukken soulkey is streaming bw
nobody gives a fuck about sc2
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>>158566634
or bw
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>>158566668
i give infinitely more fucks about bw and i haven't even played it
i think bw will make a comeback
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https://gfycat
.com/FrailAgitatedBluefintuna
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>>158566780
bwhd stay tuned
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>>158566942
cant wait for september!
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2 free packs!
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lol....
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>bo3
???
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the gap between foreigners and koreans is closing
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>>158566860
brb...
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have you guys ever seen a booth babe in real life?
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>>158567182
because all the good koreans are retiring or going into military service or returning to bw
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pvz is literally unwinable
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is scarlett playing in this whole thing
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>>158567972
no she's not good enough
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what ya looking at?
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>>158568003
noo our queen is the best anon take it back
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>>158567761
yeah and got a haircut almost didn't recognize that nerd
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>>158568079
your bum...
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>>158567068
how does this work
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>>158568079
nothing/the wall..
having a good time honest
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i wonder what idealboy is doing right now...
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i hate you all
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>>158568502
+1
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stats :3
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gookright strips
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snutepute~
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i havent watched sc2 in months and i had already forgotten how boring and shitty this game is

i think ill stick to esl pro league finals
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will neeb make it happen again?
hmmm
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>>158568487
idealgirl...
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>>158569087
cs:go fuck yourself
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how come stats is still wearing the kt jacket if the team is dissolved...
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>>158569361
to remind you of what is actually going on with sc2
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>>158569168
based
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stats sucks lmao
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>>158569361
he has no other clothes
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http://overrustle.com/tekjansen

http://overrustle.com/tekjansen

APPLE EVENT
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did stats lose the first map i wasnt watching
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>>158570284
snute 1:0 stats
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>>158570284
yeah
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gooknukes
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BOPPED
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athene is on some next level shit
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>>158570929
what is he up to this time
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>remote connected to cable
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>Blizzcon
>A celebration of epic games and an epic community.

w00t!!!!! \m/_O_\m/ epic ftw!!!
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>>158570991
he's talking about "clicking" and he stopped saying like-like-like-like you know so much. he sounds confident and smart
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>>158571197
link?
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>>158571197
tuned in
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>>158571248
twitch tv / athenelive

he had a guy on almost crying talking about his journey to try and click
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now this is the athene i know lmao
"if everyone was as good as me we'd live in utopia"
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https://logicnation.org/wiki/Main_Page

who wants to click with me?
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click this

*grabs crotch*
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fucking lmao
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*oo** *oo**

* _ *
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can't play starcraft2 with new macbook pro
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>>158571949
this post added NOTHING
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>>158572127
yeah but it multiplied
bitch
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\o/
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why would you be aggressive after killing all those probes
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>>158572221
your mum multiplied
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>>158572379
he hasn't clicked

'namsayin?
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neeb @ -195...
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>>158572446
iykwis*
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fucking thijs lost

what a loser he needs to learn to draw better cards -_____________________-
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>>158573208
hahahahahaha
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>>158573240
dont laugh at my misfortune
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hot iu farts that sting your nose
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As soon as you make the click, you will experience:

a rush of dopamine in your brain;
a euphoric feeling;
a tremendous relief.

lmao this shit is taken straight outta cult leaders handbook
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phoners will NEVER make the click
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eating iu's poop will make you click
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what is logical for me is to not have logic as my core value

i am a true enlightened individual
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weve clicked
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word /scv/ has clicked
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gonna grief athain a bit
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>>158571457
so this is what atheists are up to these days
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someone tweet this click stuff to destiny
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>>158571457

you should just use the trivium
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wow i see i don't need to grief as these idiots take care of that themselves
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im going to use athenes click method to change my core value to gook pussy
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fuck clicking, heres the trivium thing i mentioned above

https://youtu.be/7altdvOvvZM
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>>158574782
man why the heck is it so long?!?!
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atheism is LITERALLY a cult now LOL
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>>158574782
how far on the trivium are you? do you click after step 3?
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that documentary about fractals should be interesting though
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*forces trivium*


it's just who what where why when , and deals with all the logical fallacies. it's known as a "classical education". its what everyone was taught in school since the greeks all the way up until the early 1900's when they got into social engineering, making people stupid, etc.
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>>158575159
that's probably the worst one man..
it's human nature to see order in chaos
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>>158574929

then you're ready for the quadrivium.
together with the trivium they make up the "7 classical liberal arts"


but lets not get ahead of ourselves
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word. we learned how to think not what to think and examine everything
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>>158575390
I feel like I already know grammar (I can write) logic (I can think) and rhetoric (I can speak)

I'm ready to learn about the celestial bodies, coach
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>usb-c
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>>158575580
is the future
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>>158575580
they love it for whatever reason

the power cable for my macbook breaks and glitches all the time tho
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>>158575616
happiness doesnt really matter. you can go deeper
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>>158575379
i heard people got hella enlightened after staring at fractals for hours im expecting similar results
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>>158575834
you can probably see through the edges of the matrix and escape
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>>158575549
you use them like a scientific method kinda. you have to use them in the right order or its pointless

grammar defines and describes the thing. "the what"
logic is the where when why
rhetoric is the how

the logical fallacies are way easier to learn and get into. they make you become a master debater overnight
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>>158574782
is there literally anything of value to someone past high school in that vid?
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USA USA USA USA
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>>158576043
the individual must transcend misery and happiness
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at least we have more viewers than hots2
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>>158575954
is that all explained in the video you linked? if you have all those 3 you're like socrates right? I'm like socrates
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what the heck??? what the heck is a whisper on twitch??

is it like @someone? or is it really like a 1on1 whisper?
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>>158576532
it opens a chat like on facebook
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>>158576068
yes, the whole concept will make you aware how badly you were taught in school. and everyone should learn the fallacies like "the straw man" or "the red herring" "appeal to emotion" are 3 of the more well known ones

and jan irvin is one of my dogs. dude & his channel are chill
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>>158576532
it's a 1v1 whisper like from dia
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>>158576495
literally pretty much.
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>>158576596
but i already knew all that after hs
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>>158576729
then im ready for the quadrivium
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>>158576629
that's gay as shit!
how the heck am i supposed to ask stupid shit and bait idiots if people give legit answers 1v1

im not gonna bother with just 1fish
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athene has a caller on the line. this should be good

hes stuck on the trusting logic step
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>>158576776
theres like 50 of them. i used those ones you knew for an example

theres a bunch more on this infographic
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has been timed out for 600 seconds.
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call ended he was playing hearthsone in the background

one of us needs to call in
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>>158577043
hs not teaching logical fallacies is not a big deal... i think u overestimate hs kids
>>
neeblet...
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>>158577186

i was only hyping those because you can learn a lot of them right away and notice others use them and then outdeb8 their face

the whole trivium decision making process is what shouldve been taught and is what is actually important
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>>158577043
some of those fallacies are applicable in certain cases if bob is a spokesman for the senate then he really can't be trusted

it almost seems like a ratatoile any man can cook fallacy to think otherwise
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>>158577708
what does being a senator have to do with how trustworthy he is?
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>>158577837
all politicians are crooked but that was just the example from the macro a better one would give context for instance bob is a wood worker and hes talking about using wood for the pallisade around the city instead of stone. the aesop fable comes to mind and in that story none of the arguments should be taken by themselves
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>>158577601
basically you want high school to tell kids how to think


has a pretty bad vibe to it...
and that is probably why it isn't taught
not saying it shouldn't but there has to be more to it
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neebed
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>>158578235
neebleted
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>>158578167
>has a pretty bad vibe to it...

this kind of reasoning is why children should be taught to reason correctly
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*clicks*
mmmm yeah that's the stuff
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just teach the bible
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i want to watch neeblet play a non protoss korean but umm there arent any lol

pvp is so dumb
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t doesn't matter how hard you can theorize any point of view when you disconnect it from reality. Because the privilege to have these thoughts require a physical reality that allows you to do so and therefor having the ability to think is part of the premsises to be able to build an arguement. If your conclusions goes against that premsise you are contradicting yourself. This is why your theoretical train of thought has to always make room for the practical reality if you don't want to contradict yoruself
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>>158578167
it was used for 2000 years, it works fine and they can think after too
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longest 2-3 weeks of my life
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lol what a goose

you have no way of understanding the full totality of reality but are limited by your perception of it; empirical evidence is meaningless
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>>158578557
if you don't believe in absolute truth you're fucked anyways
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>>158578625
nice
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>>158578370
>>158578591
you can both see what can happen just by taking a look at athene

he is blinded by his own logic...
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>>158578625
>15 inch
>16gb memory, lmfao what for?
>Radeon Pro 460 4gb memory for a "gaming" laptop on MAC xddd
let me guess, 3k $?
youre moron btw
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>>158578760
Through quantum mechanics, I have learned to see reality differently and approach all things as probabilities instead of certainties
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>>158578761
word. we realize God exists here
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>>158578870
i didnt read the athene click plan. he went nuts a few years ago too. i forget what that was about. science i think
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well that's the first step ya pickled lemon
the next step is embracing the fear and trembling that comes with the uncertainty and understanding that therein stems the power of faith

the tao that can be explained is not the eternal tao
>>
hes got a caller on lets listen in
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>>158578760
the totality of reality is your perception of it, anything that cannot be empirically discovered or perceived is irrelevant to us, it's the same thing as it just not existing

there being things we might be unable to ever perceive or discover doesn't change the practical application of the things we can perceive and discover matters
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>>158579289
>the totality of reality is your perception of it, anything that cannot be empirically discovered or perceived is irrelevant to us, it's the same thing as it just not existing
dumbest thing ive read all day
and ive been watching blizzcon with twitch chat open
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some idiot whispered me on twitch and started rambling serious talk@me

do i just ignore him or is that too mean??
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>>158578969

>fake jewish science
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>>158579464
troll him. pretend to want to click and then go ROFL fuck you after like 2 hours of leading him on
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>>158579563
but is it worth my time to troll just 1 guy? and there's nobody to pick up for me when i get exhausted
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>>158579628
your time isnt worth much
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>>158579628
ive always been of the opinion that an intense troll on one person is better than a light troll on a lot of people. you can really give that guy a bad day and affect him negatively
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>>158579668
yea but i think it's worth more than this idiots who whispered me.. me>him so to say...
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>>158579764
you can make it worth your time by posting your progress here for validation and chubbies from us
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>>158579743
i think the best is the middleground
a pretty intense session with a group of people
then someone can take your spot when you've had enough
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ugh im so full
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>>158579463
anything that exists but doesn't interact with anything in any perceivable way is irrelevant lol

there isn't a difference between something like that existing and not existing
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>>158580036
of shit
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>>158579159
Athene wants meaning again and since WoW was systematically killed be blizzard.

Blizzard has essentially ruined his life and since then hes been searching for something to fill the void of the former epicness.

Its exactly like how blizzard ruined day9s life

day 9 was a class act and an inspiration before sc2 came out.

but now since sc2 has died, hes become a NUT CASE rambling about nothing and pretending to laugh

its the same exact phenomena!

the illuminati is purposely making everything shit and leaving people without a way to turn so everyone is anticipating the antichrist and the new world order and the age of science and reason and enlightenment
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>>158580036
*smacks your big belly*
>>
this guy has to be a troll
>>
all of talk of """clicking""" is literally triggering my fricken autism

just stop already, its not a good meme, its just stupid
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>>158580004
you mean scv...
>>
Why does this general even exist?
>>
neeb~~
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>>158580158
teehee~~~
>;3
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>>158580163
we click here
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>>158580163
because i forgot to pull out of your mom and when u have a baby past age 40 they have birth defects XD!!!!!!!!!
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>>158580068

the freak out i was talking about he decided to start donating all the money he made to science and he was going on about how science was going to change everything.
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>>158580068
that happened to me too. then i found God to replace the video games
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>>158580294
word
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>>158580047
>if i dont look at the dog eating my leg it doesnt exist
literal peak-a-boo child-tier logic
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why is canada such a faggot?
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>>158580368
thats why i follow happening threads on /pol/ so adamantly

the only thing i got going for me is god getting this earth over with

LOL

for me atleast, god doesnt keep me busy i still want a hobby to piss away time though
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>>158580368
God is dead
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>>158580639
thats what streams are for
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>>158580630
jesus christ what a bunch of pussies

fucking millennials lol
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>>158580629
Except you would feel pain, if you were to look at it you would be able to perceive it visually. It can be studied, the effects perceived and understood during and after the fact. It can be perceived by others even if you were completely unconscious and unaware at the time

Literally any form of perception available to humans would be able to perceive a dog eating your leg and its empirical effects and implications

what's your point?
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>>158580660
right then he ressurected on easter
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>>158580630
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>>158580857
speaking of millennials thats whats wrong with 4chan too

case in point this general was ruined by millennials
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>>158581064
amen
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>>158580903
you're confusing perceived and the perceptible. your logic says that anything that isn't perceived doesnt exist and doesnt affect anything. which is retarded and leaves no room for the affects of the perceptible yet currently unperceived
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define *grabs crotch* or concede
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>>158581272
*clicks*
i win
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>>158580857

canda could be like an america without blacks & everyone toughened by the cold

instead they're trying to be germany-sweden
>>
*clicks*
ahhhhh... dopamine......
>>
wtf
when my muesli is dry it taste normal but when i add milk it tastes so sweet i can barely eat it
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>>158580959

they fucked ernst zundl and david irving with that.
>>
i honestly think millennials are the best generation

disclaimer:
im a millennial

millennials were like 1970-1999, right?
>>
gleepy is a shitskin btw

trump is gonna send him home :D
>>
>>158581736
millenials were born in the 2000s duh
>>
suck my millennial dingalong
>>
>>158580959
their logo doesn't have a canadian flag but has a britbong flag

i like em already
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>>158581226
I said it might as well not exist because there isn't a difference between the two if the object doesn't interact with anything in a way that is perceptible

if an object cannot (theoretically) be empirically measured ever, it has no practical implications on human life nor does it offer an understanding of the only reality that matters to humans, which is our own
>>
i thought millenials were 1980+
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>>158581838
nah that's actually gen z
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>>158581736
baby boomers 60's, generation X 70's & 80's, generation Y late 80's 90's
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>>158581954
look up the word millennium
>>
millennials
from wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"generation y" redirects here
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>>158581984

:(
>>
we dont pay attention to the bullies here
>>
>>158581875
you're confusing the terms again. perceived = what you can see, measure, etc perceptible = what is capable of being seen, measured, etc but is as yet unperceived

you say ever but what you mean is with your current means or ability

you're assuming you have all the knowledge tools and abilities necessary to measure all perceptible things right this moment, which isn't true and is why I said your logic doesn't take into account for the perceptible since you assume all perciptible things are perceived and you also assume all unperceived things dont have an effect, when what you mean to say is they don't have an affect that is currently perceived
>>
holy fuck is this the next 'za??
*puts 'za in the oven*
im almost ready guys
*catches up on the comments*
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>>158582364
give me some~
>>
https://www.twitch
.tv/chess

our guy nakamura vs that memeing fucker carlsen get in here
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>>158582364
*tuns off the oven*
>>
carlsen is our guy actually
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>>158582475
bully
>>
wording this
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>>158582669
word+1
>>
word
>>
+1
word
based
>>
it's a young man's game
>>
I unclick then re-click for that FREE dopamine rush
>>
the stream died... (the starcraft 2 one not the chess one)
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damn i think i've clicked and unclicked in the past
>>
it gets harder and harder to re-click...
>>
more like banny
>>
i totally have clicked in the past ffs

it just wasn't about logic for me
i clicked with nothingness
which makes more sense if u think about it
the true next level
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>>158582285
no, I mean theoretically perceivable. Can, as in it isn't impossible by nature, to perceive. if an object is impossible to perceive, its existence is irrelevant and empirically unprovable by nature

If something is theoretically perceptible, it can be understood through empirical means.

Empirical evidence is the only meaningful means of describing reality as we know it.
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im gonna do it
im gonna click with nothingness again
it's all i've really thought about since unclicking

thanks, athene
here's $50 for making me realize my true form!
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>>158584202
+1 and word
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>>158584561
*vomits*
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>>158584561
americans...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWC1qwYWus8
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has wcs started yet? who won first day??
>>
narci is our girl
>>
>>158584561
this woman is legitimately scary
>>
magnus is a bonjwa...
>>
>>158584202
your base of operating must then be one where you conceive of all things as theoretically perceptible otherwise you assume all tools necessary to perceive all things is already at hand. if you don't assume you have all the tools, which you don't, then what you're doing is merely moving all unperceived interactions into theoretically perceivible ones which just a word game
>>
http://fiddle.se/tagged/sojin

*kfaps*
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>>158585247
>your base of operating must then be one where you conceive of all things as theoretically perceptible
"you have to believe literally everything is true regardless of what your senses or reason tell you"
nah
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even if you hate scar scar you have to admit she's doing a much better job looking pretty than other girls we know
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magnus cucked him pretty hard there
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>>158585308
sojin is perfect
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>>158585380
so then you agree with me and thus concede. good
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>>158585498
*is vanquished*
>>
only halfway thrugh my 2nd beer amd im so drunk lol

*boots up kmfdm*
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>>158585735
*grabs your butt*
>>
>>158585814
beer maks me a angry drunk
*headbuts you*
>>
>fallout 4 for $27
>out of stock
why does God keep doing this to me my entire life!!!!!!?????!!!!!! why am i always late!!!!!??? >_<
>>
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>tfw you forgot to wash your red jeans
>>158585492
girl's day has the highest % of hot girls of any group. they're all waifu material
>>
>>158585924
x_X
>>
>>158585247
that's just a non-sequitur. the idea and position that there could theoretically be things in this universe that we cannot, by any means, perceive can easily be held without claiming we have all the tools to perceive that which is perceivable. given that much of your argument has been claiming i'm misusing or misunderstanding terminology, i'd say it's you that is playing the word games.

the original post tried to use human's potentially flawed perceptibility to claim that human's, by nature, are incapable of understanding reality in its totality, thus making empirical evidence meaningless.

my point was that the idea that empirical evidence is meaningless is demonstrably false, given that it is the the only meaningful method of describing reality as we know it. And that, even if the first two points were true, it would be irrelevant to the only reality that matters to us.
>>
shut the fuck up idiots
>>
so how's that tournament been so fat i havent really been watching
>>
>>158586338
stream was shut down since no one was watching
>>
nick's hair is anglo but his beard is durka what the heck?
>>
>>158586338
>so fat
lmaooooooo
>>
iu mucus farts
chilli mucus
>>
chilli flakes found in iu's feces
>>
>>158586196
are you changing what you originally said? because you said things that interact when cannot be perceived are no different from things that don't exist. that's nothing. you're saying you can hold the position that something that you said didn't exist can exist my argument isn't founded on misusing terms, either it's trying to follow your faulty logic

I can't speak for the original poster since I'm not him. but it's clear empirical evidence is not the only relevant thing to reality, or even a meaningful way of describing it, since how can a single piece of a puzzle be all that's relevant to the puzzle as a whole since existence is composed of more than just sensations
>>
phil collins and iu shitting together to create a technicoloured turd that slides down my gullet
>>
we'd still be alive posting about bw if sc2 hadn't come around and ruined everything
>>
>12k
there's no fucking way we're going to have a wcs circuit next year

stakes are high...
who's going to win the last blizzcon?
>>
david kim...

dustin browder...

the devils...
>>
>>158587451
sc2 is to starcraft what source was to cs...
>>
we rooting for zest right??
>>
>SeizonGames: I'M SO SICK OF WATCHING ONLY PVP AND PVZ
lmao and thorin said that terran was the broken race
>>
kpop is demonic and it cursed me
gangnam style is the antidote
>>
uhh, so bane v archon is the new meta or something? what the fuck is wrong with pigskins
>>
iu dancing to gangnam style and shitting and the shit is getting squashed inbetween her cheeks when she dances and its going everywhere im catching it in a basket op op op opg angnam style
>>
>2 terran players made it to blizzcon
w- was avilo right?
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>>158587627
word its the perfected version of a flawed game
>>
*clicks*
>>
*clicks banes into archons*
the biggest impact...
>>
is ptitdrogo crying?
>>
>>158587326
no I specifically said things that cannot be perceived or empirically discovered, this includes perceivable effects of things we cannot directly perceive with our 5 senses, which i specifically mentioned multiple times

i never said anything didn't exist, nor did i mention any kind of time frame of perceptibility as you suggested before, i said its existence or non-existence was irrelevant if it is by nature imperceivable, directly or indirectly.

the idea that there are things other than empirical evidence that are relevant to our understanding of reality is just a non-starter. If an object exists that has any effect at all, any interaction with our perceivable universe, it is by nature perceivable, whether we currently have the means to do so or not. And said effect can be understood empirically. In fact it is the best and only method of doing so.

one could say there could theoretically be more to reality than what is universally possible for humans to perceive, but this idea and the existence or non-existence of said ideas or objects doesn't matter. If its existence cannot be proven, nor can it be perceived or its effects observed directly or indirectly at any point in time, it has no bearing on anything in our perceptible universe.

our only method of knowing what reality consists of is our conscious perception and empirical understanding of it.
>>
>>158588795
typical unclicked response
>>
how is snute still in the game? i think avilo was right you can do whatever you want with zerg
>>
>>158588795
you said 'things in this universe that we cannot, by any means, perceive', this goes beyond the 5 senses, which you did not mention even once so that's just an error on your part

>i never said anything didn't exist >>158580047
>there isn't a difference between something like that existing and not existing
you're changing what you originally said, which is a good sign since it shows you PERCEIVE something wrong with what you're saying

>If an object exists that has any effect at all, any interaction with our perceivable universe, it is by nature perceivable
when I followed this logic in this post >>158585247
you said it was a non-sequiter now you're saying the exact same thing, that your base of operations is one where you assume all things are theoretically perceptible which is just moving all unperceived interactions into the classification of theoretically perceivable ones which is still just a word game

> If its existence cannot be proven, nor can it be perceived or its effects observed directly or indirectly at any point in time, it has no bearing on anything in our perceptible universe
this assumes we have all the tools necessary to observe everything. if you want to be consistent you would have to classify such interactions as theoretically perceivable

>our only method of knowing what reality consists of is our conscious perception and empirical understanding of it
you're taking the half and making it the whole. you may say that perception is the only way of perceiving what is perceptible, which is half of reality, but you can't say perceiving that half is perceiving the whole
>>
gook
>>
seulgi
>>
gook
>>
adepts and dts
good job blizzard
im done
>>
have they announced diablo 4 yet?
>>
>>158584753
damn
>>
sojin omo
>>
why is nobody summoning me for friede my sign's been down for like 10 minutes ~_~
>>
rip noot
>>
>>158590757
cuz you smell like SHIT
>>
>>158586018
we're in the matrix
shit like that just proves me right every time
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>>158591108
#clicked
>>
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>>158589934

imagine a 3 dimensional moebius strip... imagine using it for a pissjug...
>>
if i never play another game with a """"tough female heroine"""" ever again then itll be too soon
>>
we don't play sjw blm games here
>>
we dont play games here
>>
>>158591108
we must be in shitty leaky old run down pods that are too weak to hide the true nature of reality from us. thats why we're all here

are any of you the one?
>>
>>158589934
i said there isn't a difference between an object that is by nature impossible to perceive or empirically understand existing or not. the existence of such an object is irrelevant whether it exists or not. that isn't the same thing as saying it doesn't or cannot exist, in fact i explicitly said multiple times that you literally cannot prove or disprove such an object's existence.


>you said it was a non-sequiter now you're saying the exact same thing

no i'm not. it's a non-sequitur because nothing you said in that post follows anything i have said at all. no where did i assume all things that exist are inherently theoretically perceptible, nor did i assume that we already have all tools necessary to perceive all things, i specifically said it is theoretically possible for things that aren't perceptible, now or ever, to exist.

all i have said is that whether they do exist or not, it doesn't matter. even if we theoretically had every single tool of perception that will ever be created or can be created, if there still exists objects that we cannot perceive, their existence will not matter. by nature it will have no observable effect on the universe that we can perceive.

>but you can't say perceiving that half is perceiving the whole

and i never have. but as it relates to humans, the 'half' is the whole. it is all we can truly know about the universe and everything that exists in the half is best understood through empirical evidence.

to chase what we by nature cannot discover is to waste your time chasing a phantom
>>
wth are those idiots still arguing
>>
i don't really get what they're arguing about

but i want in

and i want to take the lesser autists side
which is it??
>>
>>158591980
then theres also that weird shit that happens when you just observe an object
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>>158592169
that was a hoax
>>
>>158592156
+1
>>
this is where philosophy majors go after their studies
>>
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Holy shit dark
>>
i'm not reading 10 or more word long posts 2bh
>>
>>158592156
it's this guy >>158591980

the other one is literally schizophrenic
>>
>>158592298
can u tldr that?
>>
>>158592218
you just aren't observing hard enough brah!
>>
How many gurls have you slept with since HotS? 2 for me
>>
hots 1 or hots 2?
>>
>>158592412
ask how many since warcraft III instead
>>
one of these spergs is probably the same guy who argued for hours about value and za
>>
>>158592749
the schizophrenic one is
you can tell from his rhetoric
>>
>>158592353
ok

>>158591980
word
+1
based as h*ck
#clicked
>>
>>158592749
the arabs invented the concept of zero after seeing pizza for the first time
>>
>>158592749
value is a social construct
>>
>>158592749
i 100% agree

no doubt in my mind
>>
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hello, i am back and ready to be posting with my friends, the scvees!
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i won the db8 btw
>>
honestly they were probably both in that debate

>>158593071
which one?
>>
>>158593048
nice
>>
hmm...
>>
gook
>>
vine is shutting down
>>
all i wanted was a new imac
:(
>>
nothing like relaxing in bed after a hard day of posting on scv
>>
*kfaps*
>>
>>158593257
rly?
id appreciate some sort of quote or smtn to go with these things >.<
did polt take a shot or was that just a troll too??
>>
>>158593287
+1
>>
>>158591980
I already linked to what you said
>there isn't a difference between something like that existing and not existing
saying that is saying that it does not exist. "there is no difference between this liquid and water" I've just said that this liquid is water, haven't I? this point is settled
>i explicitly said multiple times that you literally cannot prove or disprove such an object's existence.
you're bouncing all over the place, at one time you're saying unperceivible things don't exist and then the next you either imply we have all the tools necessary to perceive all things or you classify them as theoretically unperceivable. we're getting into a lot of problems because you're keeping settled lines of dialogue open while at the same time changing what you said every other post

>no where did i assume all things that exist are inherently theoretically perceptible
that's the conclusion of your reasoning because a) either we have all the tools to perceive all things, therefore what we cannot perceive does not exist. or, since you rightly say we don't have all the tools to perceive all things b) that all things are theoretically perceivable since we don't know what we can or will be able to perceive if we had more tools
> i specifically said it is theoretically possible for things that aren't perceptible, now or ever, to exist
this is you saying that there is a possibility of things that don't exist (according to you see the first line of this reply) do exist. which is you conceding your point

>but you can't say perceiving that half is perceiving the whole
>and i never have
then you go on to immediately say
>but as it relates to humans, the 'half' is the whole
am I supposed to laugh here?
>it is all we can truly know about the universe and everything that exists in the half is best understood through empirical evidence
if you had forgone the joke just above, what you're saying here is basically what I said which is that perception is the only way to--
>>
>>158593417
add me on skype
>>
>>158593537
https://medium.com/@vine/important-news-about-vine-909c5f4ae7a7#.yv2oa595o
>>
>>158591980
--perceive the perceptible. which is exactly what I said

>to chase what we by nature cannot discover is to waste your time chasing a phantom
no one suggested to try and perceive the imperceptible and that isn't even the point you were trying to make all these posts
>>
please elon

take me with you

idc if we die on the way
>>
>>158592749
no shit retard there's like 6 people who post here
>>
>>158592295
game?
>>
>>158593749
that is just fucked

how are they so bad? why not just monetize the shit out of it first at least? didn't it have a pretty big userbase?
>>
>>158593881
civ 6 1v1 mode
>>
*chimes in*
>>
>>158593874
wrong
there were 20 of us at the scv meetup over the summer. that doesnt even include neets who never leave their house for any reason
>>
*clicks in*
>>
>>158593968
+1
>>
i'm not with her

at ALL
>>
>>158593881
lol
gonna use this one
>>
>>158594048
+1
>>
I'm not schizophrenic
>>
>>158586095
me on the left
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>>158594169
youre ugly and fat
>>
i've earned 3 lol's in these threads in the last 3 weeks what have you losers achieved with your lives?
>>
im not a loser i just havent won yet
>>
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maths break:

40,000,000+pizza = 17÷B

define B
>>
>>158594236
lol
>>
>>158594058
lol
>>
>>158594320
B most definitely is NOT valuable
>>
how do i learn maths
>>
flour + salt + water + = fed for EVER
>>
iu + fart = 22
>>
2+2=5
>>
>>158594404
McGraw Hill Mastering Technical Mathematics 2nd edition
>>
bought 6 big loaves of 1 day old bread from a vietnamese bakery nearby for $1 wew
>>
>>158594404
here: https://vimeo.com/13497928
most of us have already seen this so you'll need to work extra hard to catch up with the rest of the thread
>>
got a handy J from a vietnamese baker for 1 wew
>>
>>158594720
you gonna make yourself some banh mis?
>>
whoshotter...
>>
>>158594784
how many chackles is that roughly?
>>
>>158593618
>"there is no difference between this liquid and water"
he's saying
"there's no difference between this "invisible" water and nothingness"
the water is still there, it just doesn't affect anything
>>
dude archons lmao
>>
>>158595002
good unit
>>
>>158594928
not even a comparable example
>>
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lol
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>>158593618
>saying that is saying that it does not exist.

no it's saying, to human beings, there isn't a difference between it existing or not existing lol. nothing changes in the perceptible world.

>at one time you're saying unperceivible things don't exist and then the next you either imply we have all the tools necessary to perceive all things or you classify them as theoretically unperceivable

i'm starting to think the guy that called you schizophrenic was right at this point. i never said any of this. you've apparently chimed in on an argument you clearly haven't understood from the get-go and invented in your mind something entirely different.

it is not a difficult concept to understand - it is theoretically possible for things to exist that are impossible for us to perceive or understand by empiricism, directly or indirectly.

my point was that whether they do or not is irrelevant, given their nature. you can theoretically entertain either idea all you want, nothing will change in the understanding of reality of human beings, given the nature of the theoretical objects i have described. Whether they exist or not has no bearing on the meaningfulness and usefulness of empirical evidence, which was what i was originally responding to.

If a human understanding of something can exist, it is best discovered through empirical evidence. anything else that is outside of our realm of possible understanding that may or may not exist simply cannot be proven, be disproven, described, observed, experimented on. It cannot interact with anything we can observe in any way that would produce a perceptible effect.

for all intents and purposes if such a thing were to exist, it might as well not exist in our reality, because nothing changes either way.
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>>158595370
our guys
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lol
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>>158575159
which fractal documentary?
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kmemes weird me out
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>>158595979
https://logicnation.org/wiki/Main_Page

click yourself b4 u kill urself
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>>158594781
lol thats neat
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first of all there is nothing wrong with marine marauder

second of all
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maths
not just one math, but several maths
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>>158594656
is this true
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>>158595460
>no it's saying, to human beings
nothing
> there isn't a difference between it existing or not existing lol
thats what I said and what you said
>nothing changes in the perceptible world
you're just saying existence is nothing more than what our senses can detect, which is wrong

>i never said any of this. you've apparently chimed in on an argument you clearly haven't understood from the get-go and invented in your mind something entirely different
I'm well aware you didn't explicitly state those things, are you so stupid you can't follow what you say to their conclusions? because that's all I've done there. explain how you can know all that is perceptible and imperceptible without all the tools necessary to perceive all things? and explain how you can claim something is truly imperceptible and not merely theoretically perceivable yet unperceived while admitting to not having all tools necessary to perceive all things? you wont be able to, which is why you resort to name calling

> it is theoretically possible for things to exist that are impossible for us to perceive or understand by empiricism, directly or indirectly
which again is you saying things that don't exist do exist. since you claim the perceptible world is all that existence is so the unperceived don't exist according to you

>my point was that whether they do or not is irrelevant, given their nature
their nature being either non-existent existent things or theoretically perceivable things or imperceivable things
>you can theoretically entertain either idea all you want, nothing will change in the understanding of reality of human beings, given the nature of the theoretical objects i have described
this is nothing to the point
>Whether they exist or not has no bearing on the meaningfulness and usefulness of empirical evidence
you're merely saying the unperceivable has no bearing on the perceived. which you can't accurately say since you don't have all the tools to perceive all things

cont--
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>>158596591
ahh yes
i have finally mastered mathematic
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*learns math*
just one, many more to go
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there ARE maths but you DO math

how can you do more than one math at a time? you simply can not
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>>158595460
>If a human understanding of something can exist, it is best discovered through empirical evidence
this is nothing to the purpose
>anything else that is outside of our realm of possible understanding that may or may not exist simply cannot be proven, be disproven, described, observed, experimented on
water is wet
>It cannot interact with anything we can observe in any way that would produce a perceptible effect
okay
>for all intents and purposes if such a thing were to exist, it might as well not exist in our reality, because nothing changes either way
and you end here repeating what I said you said before, which you spent the beginning of your post saying you didn't say

if anything is going to come of this you have to answer my questions in the previous post and then go from there because at one time you're acting as if we have all the tools to perceive all things and at others you're acting like we don't as it suits you. answer those questions otherwise you're just blowing hot air and contradicting yourself
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>americans only learn one math
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>tfw planning to rape soon
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im american and i didnt even learn one math's
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>>158596891
>you cant do more than one man at a time

your mom disproves that little theory rofl
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>>158597034
who's the unlucky guy?
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>>158596109
all athene has is a lot of HD stock footage of modern shit behind him with dramatic music playing and him bullshitting the whole time

this mandelbrot set one is better
https://youtu.be/56gzV0od6DU
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*does a maths*
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i was gonna buy a tablet to read books on but i dunno.....

tablets are kinda gay and pointless
maybe i'll just buy a kindle paperwhite

what do you read on besides real books
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*forgets a math*
heh.. got plenty more of those
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>>158597294
>>158597198
lmao
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types of maths:

algebra (the gebra)
geometry
trigonometry
tip calculating
calculus

there are others but these are the most important ones
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>>158597257
just man up and read from computer........
or once i read a book on my phone

tablets are too expensive for their purpose...
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>>158597257
i listen to audiobooks so i can do other things at the same time
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>>158597373
what about that one maths that mark zuckerberg did on his window at harvard and got 50 billion dollars
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>>158597373
types of meat
types of fruit
types of wine
types of poo

NOT

types of meats
types of fruits
types of wines
types of poops


fucking IDIOT
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>>158597506
we speedread here so i hope u at least listen on 5x speed to keep up
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>>158597538
meat and maths are not the same thing
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*eats a fruits*
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*speedreads on speed to speed up my readspeed*
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>>158597506
but doing two things at once is bad
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ok but how do you do divisions in your head without any paper or anything tell me that genius
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>>158597620
woah socrates is here with us today
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>>158597620
1 beef pattie + 1 beef pattie = 2 beef patties

same thing
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>>158597513

he needs to be stopped before he creates the matrix
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>>158597513
thats a maths he invented on his own
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but how do you KNOW
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>>158597846
knows*
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*just knows*
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>>158597717
i lose track of the book if i do something that requires thought. i just do mindless stuff like hearthstone, poop, or lie down when im listening to books
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*know*
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>>158597513
it was john nash who used the window
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>>158597736
socrates are* here, you mean
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>>158598150
holy lol
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furthermore
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1 socrate
2 socrates

these are pretty basic maths
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>>158598279
i knows
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lmfao
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>>158596736
>you're just saying existence is nothing more than what our senses can detect, which is wrong

i really have no idea how you come to these conclusions. i literally just said that it is possible for things to exist that we cannot know to exist through our perceptions or empirical evidence. it is not a contradiction to suggest that things can exist outside of our perception while not directly affecting our perceptible world. in fact these are exact properties of the theoretical object i am describing.

i never said the only things that exist are things perceivable by humans. i never suggested we have every tool of perception available to us at this point in time. these are ideas you have entirely fabricated in your mind, not something i have ever said nor something that follows from anything i have said.

Given the nature of the theoretical thing i am describing, the undiscoverable object cannot have any bearing on human being's perceptible world. It is a contradiction of its properties to suggest otherwise. for the thing having a perceptible effect on the perceptible world of human's would make it able to be perceived by nature

again, it isn't difficult to understand. i haven't mentioned a time frame, or anything to do with our current tools of perception. this is something you made up. it's a very simple theoretical, it has nothing to with with current understanding or current technology.

even if we theoretically had every single tool of perception that it is possible for humans to have (theoretically because it is possible that we may never reach that point as a civilisation), it is still possible for things to exist outside of that realm of understanding and perceptibility. things that we cannot and will never discover.

such a thing, by nature, cannot have any effect on our perceivable reality. in that sense, whether it exists or not is irrelevant. nothing in our perceptible reality would change.
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mandelbutt set
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>hairjob is now a thing
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based athene stirring up discussion again
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is blizzcon going already? have they announced the f2p ladder?
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>>158598910
>now
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD2XgQOyCCk
@_____@
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>>158598626
i can see wavelengths of colors others don't see. shimmering lights surrounding people and objects. i can see a wave of sound approach before i can hear it. i can't feel my legs either. i'm so high lol
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>>158598962
blizzcon is next week
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>weird al is the blizzcon concert

rofl
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>>158599025
watch it on a slower speed, it is insane
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>>158598626
> i literally just said that it is possible for things to exist that we cannot know to exist through our perceptions or empirical evidence
yes I know you said things that you say don't exist do paradoxically exist
>it is not a contradiction to suggest that things can exist outside of our perception while not directly affecting our perceptible world
of course
>in fact these are exact properties of the theoretical object i am describing
describe it then

>i never said the only things that exist are things perceivable by humans
you keep saying that yet i've shown several times that you did

> i never suggested we have every tool of perception available to us at this point in time
finally you answer an important question, now we can get somewhere
> these are ideas you have entirely fabricated in your mind, not something i have ever said nor something that follows from anything i have said
I already showed how it followed you have no confuted me on my reasoning so that reasoning stands
>Given the nature of the theoretical thing i am describing
which you haven't described
> the undiscoverable object cannot have any bearing on human being's perceptible world
how can you call an object undiscoverable when you admit to not having all the tools to perceive all things? how do you know it is undiscoverable and not simply theoretically perceivable, that is, currently imperceivable?

> i haven't mentioned a time frame, or anything to do with our current tools of perception
contradiction, in this very post of yours you clarify that you do not hold the opinion that we have all tools of perception at our disposal

>it's a very simple theoretical
what is? you didn't say anything

>even if we theoretically had every single tool of perception that it is possible for humans to have... it is still possible for things to exist outside of that realm of understanding and perceptibility. things that we cannot and will never discover
nothing to the purpose

answer my questions
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>>158599254
that pic of tinny.... oh my...
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>>158599351
since it's the last blizzcon. we decided to pocket all the money alotted to hire a band and then get weird al to do it real cheap
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>>158599547
ill answer them

post em
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>>158599854
you can read can't you?
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>>158600007
yeah just link em to me pls, i don't wanna search through all that shit
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>>158600007
yes

any other questions?
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i just came up with an idea....

mandelbrot pornography


>>158598675
thank you for sparking this idea
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158600080
158600094
>dodging the debate so blatantly
so you concede. #wastemytime
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reminder that theoretical physics is a fake jewish science designed to make us question our reality and erode our faith in god
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*sighs*
just another homeschooled kid... no articulation skills at all...
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we aren't that special tbf
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>tbf
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thai boyfriend
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>>158600636
to be frank
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whos frank
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is there no one who can compete with my intellectual might?
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>>158600772
who frank*
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math
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are there thai mangirls?
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>>158600831
sure, just not in math or physics
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>tfw it's thursday and tomorrow is already friday
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>>158599547
you don't have any actual questions. everything you've asked has been answered or is completely nonsensical, given the topic of conversation.

you're asking me to answer questions relating to opinions i don't hold and things i have never said or even suggested.

>how can you call an object undiscoverable when you admit to not having all the tools to perceive all things? how do you know it is undiscoverable and not simply theoretically perceivable, that is, currently imperceivable?

the fact that you think this is a valid question says a lot about your understanding of the topic at hand. i am literally referring to a theoretical object that is by nature undiscoverable. that is beyond the current or future theoretical possibilities of the human race. something that can never be discovered, perceived or understood by humans no matter how technologically advanced we become.

why you seem to have joined into a random conversation despite not understanding anything being said is unperceivably beyond me.

the original post claimed empirical evidence was meaningless, using human's limited ability to perceive the totality of reality as his reasoning. i argued that the existence of theoretical things existing that are beyond our limited, current or future, with current tools or theoretical totality of them, perceptions of reality are irrelevant to the usefulness and meaningfulness of empirical evidence in the reality we can perceive and understand.

this would by nature, require a logical contradiction of the terms to not be true. for the things that are beyond our limits to have a perceivable effect, they would have to by nature be within our limits of perceptibility
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are fractals considered theoretical physics?
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>>158600902
wouldn't rule it out
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thursday is pretty based if you think about it
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>>158601059
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>>158601098
no because its a repeating pattern thing found in nature
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>>158601098
yeah u can confirm illuminati with that

those 2 are just now arguing over the word 'theoretical'
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i blew it guys i really friggin blew it huh
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tfw neeb

feels good
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any1 know anything about this
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>>158601084
>you don't have any actual questions. everything you've asked has been answered or is completely nonsensical, given the topic of conversation
so you have no interest in continuing the conversation then if you're unwilling to answer the very important question of how you can call something undiscoverable, that is, imperceivable while at the same time saying you don't have the tools necessary to perceive all things

if you're not willing to clarify that key point, since it would either make or break your whole argument, then you just concede and there's no further reason to reply to you
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>>158601439
>>
*concedes*
heh nothing personnel
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>>158601556
now if i google that am i gonna be on fbi watchlist??
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>>158601556
gonna ask my kgf about this thanks for the conversation topic
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wgirls..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os1Ev3DfVPA
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>>158601924
for the wgirl to say n*gga please
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>>158601941
thanks but
we're with her
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>>158602069
+1
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>>158601579
it's called a theory

you should check it out
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i am with her?

is this true?
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>>158601556
fucking gooks man
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imwithhim
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>>158601084
>the fact that you think this is a valid question says a lot about your understanding of the topic at hand
it would help if you stayed on topic and stopped contradicting yourself
> i am literally referring to a theoretical object that is by nature undiscoverable
compare this sentence with what you say below and how it doesn't resemble it at all, you're carrying on a conversation about multiple topics

>the original post claimed empirical evidence was meaningless, using human's limited ability to perceive the totality of reality as his reasoning. i argued that the existence of theoretical things existing that are beyond our limited, current or future, with current tools or theoretical totality of them, perceptions of reality are irrelevant to the usefulness and meaningfulness of empirical evidence in the reality we can perceive and understand.
this is you just saying imperceptible things are outside the realm of perceptible things which is obvious, the problem arises when you made in your arguments the claim that reality is only our senses and that empirical evidence is what explains reality, when it only explains half

>>158602172
it's called you dodging questions and being stupid
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>>158602240
+1
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>>158602240
word
bill clinton is our guy and it's gonna be great to see him in the white house again
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>>158602268
presenting a theory is stupid?

aight
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>>158602614
+1
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>>158602614
+1
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>>158602614
+1
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bill clinton is a rapist
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>>158602793
our guy....
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>>158602661
eh, I gave you one more chance. you just lose now. what you did was contradict yourself, meander, ad hom, then dodge questions and finally concede. that doesn't sound like a theory to me that sounds like a rambling idiot who doesn't know what he's saying from one post to the next
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>>158602836
+1
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>>158602793
sjw please
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>>158602836
+1
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>>158602843
how does it not sound like a theory?

there's a thing
that can never be seen with anything

how is that not a theory

ghosts
a fucking ghost
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*sigh*
the horus eye is key to 440 hertz
440 hertz is the frequency of the coffer in the giza pyramid.
440 hertz is also the key to atlantis.
YOD + HE = HE/YOD + HE = HE/YOD + HE = HE/YOD
110 + 110 = 220 + 220 = 440 + 440 = 880
the ancient egypt split the horus eye in six pieces.
1/2, 1/ 4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32 and 1/64 = 63/64

529.375 x 3.3662337 = 1782 (seal adopted)
216.5625 x 3.3662337 = 729 (harmonic number under 1000)
216.5625 x 1.015873 (64/63) = 220
the eye of horus fraction is 64:63
64/63 = 1.015873015873015873015873015873015873015873015873015873

the ever repeating 015873 series provides us the horus eye disharmonic frequency.
15873 x 63 = 999999
the double headed eagle (horus eye) gives 2 x 220 = 440 Hertz.
in 1782 the seal was adopted
6/5 x 440 Hertz = 528 = baphomet code

the eye of horus ratio is:
43200 / 42525 = 1.015873015873015873015873015873 = 64 / 63
therefore the eye of horus ratio is [64:63], which is:
30 days / 29 ‘2 ’32 days (lunar month)

the ideal month is 30 days x 24 hours x 60 minutes = 43200 minutes
the lunar month can be calculated as:
multiply a month of 30 days by the horus eye series ‘2 ‘4 ‘8 ’16 ’32 ’64
and you obtain 29 ‘2 ’32 days,
or 29 days 12 hours 45 minutes = 42525 minutes

#aware
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>>158601579
frankly i've just been waiting for you to concede already. you clearly ran out of actually relevant things to say a while ago.

>how you can call something undiscoverable, that is, imperceivable while at the same time saying you don't have the tools necessary to perceive all things

the fact that you could get something as incoherent as this from anything said in this conversation should be proof enough of that. none of this is a key point of anything but your own delusions of what is actually being said here and your inability to understand the concept of a theoretical.

if you actually understood the initial point, you would understand that our current tools of perception are irrelevant, and something only you have been bringing up repeatedly. i have only ever referred to a theoretical peak of our ability to perceive reality as human beings, and the possibility and irrelevance of things existing even beyond that which we cannot perceive.

empirical evidence is objectively the best methodology of perceiving reality as human beings can perceive it.

you can argue to what percentage of the totality of reality empirical evidence can discover, but you have no rational basis for doing so, given the completely undefinable nature of anything that would be unperceptible
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i just woke up. is this argument about perception vs reality? i cant really tell.
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>>158603096
we aren't reading this one, it got dull quickly

we're applauding bill clintons rapes now
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>>158603040
#clicked
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>>158603040
what the fuck m8
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bout to eat some pizzas
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>>158603485
what's that?
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>>158603096
yeah we don't rly know what this 1 is about
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>>158603586
poison
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*poisons
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it don't matta
none of this mattas
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it don't matta
none of this mattas
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it don't mattas
none of this matta
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it don't mattas
none of this matta
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>>158602975
you can see ghosts, first of all and you can see their effects too. are you being serious?

>>158603086
lets see if you answer the question.
>none of this is a key point of anything but your own delusions of what is actually being said here and your inability to understand the concept of a theoretical
nope, still dodging
>i have only ever referred to a theoretical peak of our ability to perceive reality as human beings
yet one is implicitly implied when you declare something undiscoverable

>empirical evidence is objectively the best methodology of perceiving reality as human beings can perceive it.
all this is saying is that perception is the best means of perceiving things. which is retarded to say, though true. but then you add reality to it which implies that reality is only the senses, which is wrong
>you can argue to what percentage of the totality of reality empirical evidence can discover, but you have no rational basis for doing so
you admit the tools of perception are incomplete which implies a vast area of as yet unperceivable things. even by your own logic what you're saying falls flat

you should have conceded a long time ago. you're just repeating yourself and failing to follow trains of thought and saying "muh theory" as if it hides your earlier contradictions.

go over what it is you're saying from the beginning if you want to continue this conversation since its going nowhere like this. state how you can say reality is only the senses and how you can say something is undiscoverable while at the same time saying you don't have all the tools necessary to make discoveries
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drink that bubbly..
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just learned my first maths
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>>158603805
>>158603842
>>158603906
>>158603956
-1
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>>158604065
shamalananyan??
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pour that bubbly*
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ive never seen a ghosts
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reminder that if you can smell someone elses fart

it means their fart particles are literally on your face
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what headphones should i get
i need bass for my anime so i can really her jojo say ora
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>>158604412
drink that muddy
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we only watch little girl cartoons here
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confession time: i hope normies keep dating fat wgirls and thinking asians are ugly so there is less competition for me
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>>158604490
get small earplug ones like your fav corean sc2 star

u will be 100% better at animes guaranteed!
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>>158604636
no one wants your plastic nightmare
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1.i hope normies keep dating fat wgirls and thinking asians are ugly so there is less competition for me

2.it is my opinion that i hope normies keep dating fat wgirls and thinking asians are ugly so there is less competition for me

Q: which of these statements is a fact and which is an opinion?
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>>158604490
ultrasone pro 900
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>>158604490
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-MDR-XB500-40mm-XB-Diaphragm-Driver-Extra-Bass-Headphones-Silver-Black/222295677651?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39497%26meid%3Df1ea356b5ed9416da934a74e66d90a81%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D370789996840&rt=nc
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already got plugs like that guy said

i want to be good at animes
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>>158604840
kek, normie
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whats /g/s meme headset now
i got ath-m50 because of them last time
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>>158604882
im pretty sure hopes arent opinions
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>>158604065
>but then you add reality to it which implies that reality is only the senses, which is wrong

reality can only be known to exist to the extent that we're able to perceive and discover it, yes. it's possible that things exist beyond our theoretical maximum ability to perceive reality, but it is impossible to prove, disprove or even describe the properties of such a thing even if it were to exist.

to describe reality in any solid terms any other way other than empirically, as a human being, is to be intellectually dishonest. you cannot know of aspects of reality beyond what one can perceive through empirical means. the absolute most you can do is admit the theoretical potential for there to be things that we are unable to ever perceive.

which i have done, and said would be irrelevant either way, which is the entire point.

>you admit the tools of perception are incomplete which implies a vast area of as yet unperceivable things.

i have only ever said that there is a theoretical possibility for things to exist that are beyond our theoretical peak of perceptibility as human beings. the whole point was that if these things were to exist, they could not have an effect on anything that we can perceive, for if they were, we could observe their effects.

meaning there isn't any difference in the world as our limited human minds can perceive it if they exist on not, given those terms.

>you can see ghosts, first of all and you can see their effects too. are you being serious?

lol
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>>158605125
are they facts?
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>>158605261
is they fact*
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>>158605261
i guess so since they aren't really subjective in the same sense that color preference, for example, is. i feel like there would be a different word for it though.
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>>158605125
>>158605261
>>158605321
>>158605569
wrong

both statements are opinions
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what should i buy

i wanted to buy an imac but they aint release one today like i was hoping....
so now i have this itch to buy stuff
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wow we almost filled up a thread
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>>158605806
anime
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>>158605806
buy me a house!
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>>158604906
>used headphones
do you think im some kind of nigger? i obsessively wipe down EVERYTHING i buy with rubbing alcohol before i use it even if its new AND i ONLY buy new!!!!!
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>>158605906
*housing
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>>158605842
i already have one
>>158605906
do houses cost $3000 in your area.....cause thats all i was willing to spend!
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>>158605912
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SONY-MDR-XB500-Headband-Headphones-with-Box-Not-used-condition-Japan-RetailModel/282021937796?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39497%26meid%3Df1ea356b5ed9416da934a74e66d90a81%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D370789996840&rt=nc
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>>158606049
what do you have
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>>158605912
hey i got just the brand for you

try the new edgemeister fartooner double-action headphones

comes with a box of shells
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>>158606135
the anime
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>>158606404
??????????????????????????????????????
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>>158606124
>WIRED headphones
KEK!!!!!!!!!

>>158606145
stupid asshole rude idiot knucklehead
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what's more important than your headphones are the brain cells you are listen with
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i wish steve jobs was alive
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>>158606586
so he fuck you are mom pussy xD
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>what's more important than your headphones are the brain cellulars you are listen with
does this make sense? to ANYONE?
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>>158606586
could he become president?
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>>158605179
>reality can only be known to exist to the extent that we're able to perceive and discover it, yes
yet you go on to say
>it's possible that things exist beyond our theoretical maximum ability to perceive reality
this will never not be the case, but hold because you miss the mark since you jump from what is perceivable all the way to that which is beyond our theoretical maximum ability, ignoring the middle section of those things which are as yet unperceivable yet possibly perceivable in the future with more tools or knowledge. the question is now how can you say which one is which without already possess perfection perceiving tools in order to exclude the truly undiscoverable from the only currently undiscoverable? you can't

>you cannot know of aspects of reality beyond what one can perceive through empirical means
this relies on the reasoning in the first bit of this post being accurate which it isn't
> the absolute most you can do is admit the theoretical potential for there to be things that we are unable to ever perceive
once again ignoring the existence of things only temporarily perceivable due to lack of tools and knowledge, which, once again, leads to the points raised in the first question

>i have only ever said that there is a theoretical possibility for things to exist that are beyond our theoretical peak of perceptibility as human beings
that's a weasel response that once again ignores the only currently unperceived
>the whole point was that if these things were to exist, they could not have an effect on anything that we can perceive, for if they were, we could observe their effects.
which again relies on the same faulty reasoning

so your whole argument relies on an excluded middle fallacy. you concede. what a waste of time
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>>158606685
xD
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>>158606685
avilo...
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>>158606586
steve wozniack is still alive and well, despite being very overweight for most of his life

but he wasn't a dick to everyone, so i guess cancer is just a fancy word for karma
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>>158606791
did the ghosts whisper you again....
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>>158606791
that's not a fallacy wtf lol
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that's not a fallacy wtf lol
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should i watch naruto or one piece or some other 100+ episode anime

im going to start watching from episode 1
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>>158607305
watch dragon ball super instead
it's at like 65 now
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@158607090
loser
@158607154
loser

losers
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>>158607426
youre a losers
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ghosts must've removed the meme arrows...
oOooOooOOoo~~
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>>158607389
i like the original dragon ball, only liked buu from z, thought gt sucked, liked the original db movies

i dont think ill like super
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>>158607305
macross
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>>158607524
ahhhhhhh wtf
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>>158607426
you sure are desperate LOL
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>>158606791
> ignoring the middle section of those things which are as yet unperceivable yet possibly perceivable in the future with more tools or knowledge.

i ignored them because they are not at all relevant to what is being discussed. which one is which is not relevant, it's a theoretical. i haven't been talking about the currently undiscoverable, only you have.

from the start i have only been talking about a theoretical maximum ability for human beings to perceive reality and the theoretical possibility for things to exist beyond that. you spent all that time typing out an argument that is completely irrelevant and besides the point.

a theoretical does not require you to predict the future of what humanity is going to discover.


>this relies on the reasoning in the first bit of this post being accurate which it isn't

this is literally as factual as a statement about reality as humans know it gets. there is no way for you to positively know something exists without empirical evidence or some kind of perception of its properties and effects.

to suggest otherwise is delusional
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*skips to 1:07*
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>>158607819
well the person you're speaking to is schizophrenic so
you know
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>>158607559
watch the 2 latest dbz movies
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new thread seulgi
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new thread hbt
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new thread your moms pusy xD
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you shouldnt skip ops dude
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hbts BUTT....
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new thread
>>158608386
>>158608386
>>158608386
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last post best post
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^get fucked lol
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>>158608538
best post v__v
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>>158607819
>from the start i have only been talking about a theoretical maximum ability for human beings to perceive reality and the theoretical possibility for things to exist beyond that
from the start you said such things as that don't exist, so to pretend you were talking about them all along is kind of funny. it's only because of you weaseling around your contradiction and refusing to answer questions that would put it to rest that we're even still talking about it

it's all very rich that you now say, when pressed into a corner, that it's beside the point

>this is literally as factual as a statement about reality as humans know it gets
I haven't forgotten that your first bit is still wrong and since you didn't address it this is too
>there is no way for you to positively know something exists without empirical evidence or some kind of perception of its properties and effects
this goes back to the first bit you failed to address and assumes that there is only the perceivable and the unperceivable and ignores the currently unperceivable. your theoretical that you hastily invented to try and avoid a contradiction turns out to have zero use
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me
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>>158610439
based you
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