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MM Meme Edition

Previous Thread >>158386356

>What is Dead by Daylight?
Asymmetrical Online multiplayer. 4 survivors scramble to fix 5 generators, while 1 killer wants to sacrifice all of them

>Sounds like evolve
It's not. Survivors have to avoid the killer at all costs, whereas the killer has to hunt for them. Everyone has their own objective.

>General info
Pastebin with most questions asked: http://pastebin.com/DDddy4uE
Pastebin with all of the values (perks/items/whatnot): http://pastebin.com/vCh6gxR6
Wiki: http://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Dead_by_Daylight_Wiki
Saved game with everything unlocked or whatever: http://www.mediafire.com/download/3qmzt3ok3p47xqw/TakeTHATsociety.profje

>Official site
http://www.deadbydaylight.com/

>Discord Chat
https://discord.gg/Eb3WFHz

>Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dbdgeneral

>Latest Patch Notes (v1.1.1b)
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/359547436764977226/

>Report hackers
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/358415206087328621/

>Report bugs
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/7/
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I wish they'd buff EW1 and nerf EW2 and 3. I want to sneak up on people, not chase them down like a Wraith with one-shots.
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first
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>>158521204
Get memed on
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>>158521204

Nice try loser.
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Can't find a game because survivor faggots are playing Mike Myers.

Back to BF1.
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https://oddshot
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Billy mains unite in suffering
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Fucking retarded random generating shit dumb ass tree was blocking the only way to get to door with out walking around
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When will they nerf MM so I can actually get games as a killer again

I just wanna play billy and t-trapper
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>>158522232
I'm kinda bummed that Billy is still the only fun killer to play.
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>play Myers
>find survivors on a generator
>start stalking on my approach
>two of them bolt
>one stays and stares at me
>stab her in the face once I hit 3

READ NIGGA, READ.
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Lol, surviviors can stuck in pallets aswell.
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>>158523278

NO NIGGA, MICHAEL MYERS OP REEEEEEEEEEEE NERF
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Christ I only play this game as Killer, and thanks to HALLOWEEN I can't get a match up to save my life.

I have only gotten a match once since the update (played The Shape and dig it, a bit OP though) and it sucks
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>>158526049
It's not bad desu,just a lot of people trying Mike out. What I suggest is,put on something like Netflix and keep DbD in a small window until you see 4 survivors join. It only takes around 5-10 min. I have 3 right now while typing this.
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Again, what is he thinking?
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>>158527387

>omfg why doesnt this killer have a 200 foot proximity heart sensor this is OP NERF

That's what he's thinking.
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Does cheating for bloodpoints still work?
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>>158527671
Yep.
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>>158527387

Think he's scouting for the killer, but not looking towards the asylum. Maybe some crows in the distance, but those could be from other survivors. Another popular strategy is to just creep around and wait for someone to get hit so you can start looking for a gen. Also the usual : he's new so he has no idea what he's doing.
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>Laurie has Meg's voice

How lazy can you get?
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>>158528183
It's a "bug"
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>>158527818
That's plausible, except for the fact that he should've noticed the moment Myers hit 2.
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>>158528929

If he's looking towards the direction where his head is facing, I wouldn't expect/see you coming from the asylum itself either.
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This game went very badly.
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>>158529220
thats not ME
RUN ANON
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Is it worth getting EW2 early? Played a few games and I felt that sticking to EW1 works much better despite the movement penalty.
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>>158529764
I believe that hitting EW2 as soon as possible is best, since it means you can then immediately start charging EW3 and pop it whenever you're behind someone.
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>>158529884
But people who have detection perks will less likely to avoid you. Was able to catch up to someone trying to infinite through buildings cause he doesn't know how close I was.
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>>158529764
EW1 would be great if not for sprint burst. Being able to sneak up on someone doesn't mean much when you move so slowly. EW1 Myers can be evaded for minutes.
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>>158521189

I expect that's precisely what they'll do by next ranked season. EW 2 will probably get nerfed down to something close to default speed and effectiveness (like Trapper minus traps), and EW 3 will have the duration and lunge toned down so that you're forced to use it on single targets at the right moment. This is pretty much what they did to Nurse with the slower speed and pathetic lunge: boxed her up as a twitch-blink skillshotter.

I don't think they'll actually buff EW1, though. Rather, they'll nerf the second two stages to force killers to make the best of the first.
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>>158530521
Shame, I really like the idea of spending the first half of the match in EW1 and then going to EW2 and 3 once two guys are dead or something like that.

Right now EW1 seems to just be there to force you to spend a few seconds powering up to become a better, skill-less. Hillbilly
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>>158531332

Well, I'm totally speculating. The past nerfs have left me pretty cynical, but I do have one hope for Michael Meyers: the devs seem very proud of having him in the game, and have actually done a great job of making him play like Michael Meyers should. There's a chance they won't nerfhammer him because he's "their baby" and they managed to nab the IP - and also, of course, so that they can sell more DLC by virtue of it having a strong killer.
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>>158529764
Charge EW2 99% asap, sometimes it's hard to get. If you like staying at EW1 then wait there for a bit after getting 99%.
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When's Jason?
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>>158532191
Won't happen, since there's a Friday the 13th game with the same concept coming out next year.
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>Be a killer main
>Haven't played in a month
>Want to try the new killer
>HAHA this will be fun!
>No survivors

Oh come on
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>>158532342

why not just kill your friends?
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>>158532342
It will be back to normal within a week.
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>doing fine for a few round as Meyers
>new game full of prestige tool box team
>still no iron grasp
>all hooks destroyed
>only manage to hook one guy
>body block shenanigans
>everyone escapes
>ggez

Feels like Wraith v2 man.
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>hooked a survivor
>other survivors nearby waiting to unhook him
>stab the survivor waiting to unhook
>second waiting survivor goes around the other side and I see them do it
>head them off and stab them in the door

>get accused at the end of the round of "camping" when I'm literally stabbing two fucking survivors as if I should just walk away and ignore them

Fucking survivors man holy shit. The entitlement.
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Watching a streamer cry about you during and after a game is the best feeling in the world.

Prove me wrong.
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>>158532342
Weird how the """""matchmaking issues""""" suddenly flip to not favoring killers when a fun killer got released.
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>>158534227
I don't think it's a case of all the survivor mains ditching survivor because it's finally challenging. I think it's just that everyone is interested in the new killer and wants to play as him. Myers will be the most popular killer for some time, but I expect most of the people playing him to go back to survivor soon.
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>>158533295

IG is so mandatory at this point that the devs just need to nerf survivor escape times - playing without it is playing a gimped killer. Without IG you're basically just giving them free heals.
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>>158534384
It's why I downranked to 20 the night before Myers was released and keep quitting matches every once and a while to stay in the 17-20 range. I'm not rising until I get Iron Grasp 3 or at least Agitation 3. Very few sabotage memers at low ranks.
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>>158534384
Or literally just stop survivors from being able to break hooks.
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>>158534070
I'll prove you right.

https://www.twitch
.tv/razertai/v/97364089?t=20m12s
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>>158534384
this is so untrue it's not even funny
equip agitation, deerstalker
dont be shit
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>>158534856
>equip agitation, deerstalker
Deerstalker is not viable for that anymore. It takes 30 seconds for someone to be ready to heal with a simple tap, you are not downing 4 people like that.

As for Agitation, well, if they don't have Iron Grasp who is to say they have Agitation? Or Deerstalker for that matter? My Myers is level 24. I have Agitation 1, which is worthless, and haven't seen Iron Grasp or Deerstalker. Needing any perk to function is garbage design.
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>>158534856

So either one perk is needed, or two? Nothing the killer can do will stop hook deforestation, nor the extremely fast unhooking times.

At the very least, Nurse needs IG. Trapper can trap his shit and Billy can just chainsaw people down again... but Nurse will suffer constant setback without it.
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Is the Michael Moore DLC a good reason to get back into this game? Haven't played since it came out due to hackers and whatnot.
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>>158532191
>wanting a knockoff of Myers
>when Trapper is basically already Jason - a big burly motherfucker with brutal weaponry

bruh.
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>>158535798

Its pretty spooky atm, not boring either. For now it's alright, might change in some days so try it.
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>>158535798
The only issue is that it now takes 15 minutes to get a game as a killer because everyone is playing as Shrek.

Oh, and the new killer is overpowered, but that's better than the survivors being overpowered.
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Send help.
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>>158536012
Neat thanks

>>158536070
Do you need to buy the DLC in order to play as a survivor?
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>>158536206
>Do you need to buy the DLC in order to play as a survivor?
What do you mean? To play as the new survivor? Yes. To play as the old survivors in a game featuring Michael Myers on the Haddonfield map? No, that's free.
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>>158536297
>To play as the old survivors in a game featuring Michael Myers on the Haddonfield map?
Ok neat thanks, that's what I was wondering
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>>158536380
Yeah, all the DLC does is let you play as Michael and Laurie. You can even eventually get their teachable perks on other killers through the new Shrine of Secrets store without buying the DLC. Would take a while though, as only 4 perks are available each week.
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This image makes me laugh
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Mikey's not such a bad guy.
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>>158537252
>it seems we've both got altruism haven't we?

>well, that's good to know
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>>158537252
That guy's a loser
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>>158537331
I laughed very hard at this.
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How do you guys deal with this game?

I get inconsistency in my games because of all the lag. I'm skipping frames and I can't cut corners to escape the killer because of this. I'm so frustrated because I like this game, but it runs like shit. If Friday the 13th game gets dedicated serves instead of this player to player bullshit connection, I'm dropping Dead by Daylight's infant ass on the ground like an egg on the sidewalk.
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I really like how the Michael Myers musical cues work. I don't know if you need to be looking at him to trigger it, but I was working on a generator in a barely-walled area on Ironworks and heard some heavy breathing, so I turned my camera and saw Michael staring at me from the window, a few metres away. Then suddenly the "being watched" music from the movie starts. I wish the other killers had cool stuff like that.
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>>158539694
It'd be neat if they could slim down the other killers' terror radii a little bit, depending on the killer. I feel like Trapper or Wraith need a few meters shaved off while Billy and Nurse are fine.
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Hello, Dwight? Is your generator running? Well, you getter go catch it!
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Anyone else going to main Laurie here? I like her clothes. Meg has been dethroned.
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>>158541998
Nea for life
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>trapper in haddonfield
>trap single man gens
>trap small passageways with grass
>trap fence vaults
eheheh :D
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>people make jokes about survivors getting the ability to stab the killer
>it actually gets implemented

we all know what's next.
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>>158544070
Don't forget to climb out windows leading on to part of the roof, and trapping the window there before dropping down.
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>>158544220
If getting killed mean I can "respawn" and change killer mid game I'm ok with this.
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Anyone tried the scratched mirror addon for Michael yet?
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>>158546757
that + boyfriend memo are top tier, you can even set up spoopy scare jumps
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>>158537252
Dodged and block
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My first rank 3 perk.
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>leveling MM
>fill a whole blood tree but the perk part
>play match
>have enough points to get the perk, pull up blood web
>leveled up for some reason, didn't get the perk at all
I mean, okay
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Vanity mirror seems a little op.
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>devs leave the infinite windows in Ironworks of Memery & that one coldwind map

>expect me to buy their DLC

LUL
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>>158551987
Just build up EW3 and use play with your food to quick vault the windows.
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So the shards cap at 1000 so you cant even save up enough to get all of them next time around wtf
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Does CE work for shards and sheet
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>>158552835
Yes
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Have any of you hackers tried stacking Billy's aids chains with Dying light and Thanatophobia?
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>>158553630
Not yet memeing as much as i can on MM before they nerf him
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>>158553630

Ya, it's not as good as I would of expected, Better off just not using thanophobia and using something better.

Also it's funny at how many survivors don't know about the infinite micheal tier3 addon.
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so ive been playing michael, and the stalking mechanic is fucked, i have no idea how to trigger it or how it works, every game ive played trying to even get to level 2 of evil within i just waste all my time staring at people while stalking, and yet still not building any meter and then getting memed on.

so instead, i use the scratched mirror ever game with the boyfriend momento. that scratched mirror addon is the single best addon in the game, it eliminates the need for half the killer perks in the game, its like having the wraith's ultra rare addon that shows aura, but 3x as good, and you can get aura reading in half a second instead of having to cloak and decloak.

since you are in level 1 the entire game you just walk up to niggas and stab them, i run iron grip (of course), unrelenting, save the best for last, and now ive been using NOED too.

unrelenting and save the best for last cuts the CD for missed and successful hits in half, letting you run at full speed twice as fast to catch back up to surviviors. the reason i stated using NOED is because of the obvious effects after gates go up, but also the speed boost really helps when they are going for the gate.

the only time ive lost a single game using this build is where one person was able to hatch camp while the third guy was dying, even then i got a hit on him before he jumped in the "cancer hatch of free wins for no reason."

the only real weakness to michael playing this way is if the survivior say fuck their friends and just gen rush while one or two of their teammates die on hooks.
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>sit and stare at someone on a gen
>they're clearly not camera-panning around while fixing because im right there looking at them
>get EW2 while they run around in circles leaving scratches everywhere
>down them, go basement
>two others basement rush and just hang out down there healing like morons while i pop EW3
>down everyone

Survivors still have no clue how to deal with Mike. It's really hilarious.
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>>158555124

>the moment when you spot him staring in the distance
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>>158554965
try making sure your resolution is set to 100 MM's EW is bugged to were it wont build up at all
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>>158555731
yeah, the mechanic is bugged and fucked, im just using the level 1 addons because its more fun to not have a terror radius, and alway know where everyone is.
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I should have put him on the front hook.
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>>158555731
They fixed that
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>>158556163
>not cutting off
>that hook
damn you're bad
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>>158556163

Mike completely shakes up how survivors have been playing this game for ages. No wonder people are screaming that he's OP.

Anyone remember when people were calling Wraith horribly OP? Now he can't even keep a survivor down.
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>>158556448
I don't know dude this add-on seems kinda fucked. I guess if they know you have it they can just run forever.
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>>158556612

Never used it, but dang yeah I see what you mean. It looks like it could use a range nerf because if you were running PWYF3 you'd be able to catch up (if you hadn't bullied your obsession already).

His addons need tweaking, but the way he works is exactly the shakeup that this game needed.
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>>158556436
I'm well aware of the mistakes I made. No need to be a jerk about it.
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>>158556612

Have you seen the Fragrant Lock of Hair? It's fucking nuts if you combine it with the Memorial.

The stalk aura feels dirty. I mean, I love it, but Meyers already encourages hiding while getting free aura reading on demand.
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>>158557425
Haven't gotten it yet on my bloodweb. I'm sure I'll get some nice comments from survivors when I do.
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>>158557779

NOED literally all match, you just need to max out your evil suck on everyone and there's addons to speed that up. Judith's Journal is potentially even better if you find your obsession quickly.
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>guy joins the lobby and says sabotage all hooks
>we say no
>he says "then stfu and ready up"
>he leaves during the auto-start countdown

hate this fucking community
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I'm very devious.
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>>158559042
>6681
>No Distressing
The fuck?

Also, is this some new shit, or it happend before?
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>>158559248
Scratched mirror give a 300% bonus.
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>>158558809
Same thing happened to me, except the guy was asking for everyone's discord usernames and left when nobody responded.
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>>158558809
>>158559514
Yup most of this community is toxic *cough* Sloppy Joe *cough* Or just wants to squeeze as much cheese out of it as they can i.e. Angrypig
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>>158561472
I would gladly take sloppy and pug over Korbin. At least the first two are legit.
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http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/312265327165758123/?ctp=2

My Brain It Hurts Reading This
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>>158561583
Completely Agree with you even tho Sloppy is a cunt and Pig is a bigger whiny cunt
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>>158561739
What's wrong with Sloppy?
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>>158561903
don't try to entertain any sort of meaningful discussion with gordon and his childish "rivalry".
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>>158561903
He's just one of the blogposting fuccbois who plague this general.
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>>158561583
Does the underage runt still play?
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>come back to play Michael after about a month away
>been watching Bahroo to get those hot strats
>first game the survivors are total retards, running everywhere and letting me build Evil
>they call cheats because I knew how to follow scratches and crows

Is there a better feeling than being called a hacker when you're not?
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>>158562191
>Is there a better feeling than being called a hacker when you're not?

Hooking overconfident teabaggers.
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So what are the must-have perks to watch out for in shrine?
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>>158562578
Agitation and Shadowborn come to mind.
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>>158562163
Who do you think >>158554965 is?
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If it didn't take so long to get a fucking game I'd probably already have MM at level 50.
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>>158562675
>shadowborn
Lel
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>>158562578

the survivor perk if you don't have the DLC, since the next time you see it will probably take 2 months+

All 3 killer perks are equally good, they just have different purposes. Agitation is for fighting hook sabo's and saving you time traveling to hooks, enduring helps you fight pallet warriors, stridor for finding people. Would consider getting the one for the killer you aren't leveling.
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>>158562578
Brutal strength
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>>158561950
>gordon and his childish "rivalry".
If thats the case then isnt hating on korbin """""""Childish"""""""" cause i just dont like sloppy and show him hate when he acts like a cunt and when hes not i actually reply to his posts
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>>158562578
>>158563051

Ah, thought it's about the current perks. It all depends on what they decide to put in. Can change with their balance patches and what not, so you should ask that everytime there's new ones.
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>>158562578
Brutal Strength
Agitation
Save the Best for Last (pairs best with Unrelenting, useful on Trapper, Wraith and Micheal (obviously))
Nurse's Calling
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>>158563282
you forgot DS
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>>158562759
Watch the movies or play the Atari game some other anon said i should do instead
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clown outfit when?
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the obsession mechanic, dare i say it, is fun
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>best for last
>find my obession early, stab once
>walk away from them
>they lead me to another survivor
>mfw this works everytime
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What exactly is the "flaw" of Myers?

Trapper can have his traps sabotaged, and has to direct the survivor into his trap (while Small Game exist) or get a random capture.

Hillbilly has to rev his saw, lacks mobility (without add-ons) during charge, and can bump into terrain which wastes time.

Wraith is Wraith.

I dunno what's the flaw of Nurse cause I still think she's a fundamentally strong character despite nerfs, but I guess she does suck at patrolling and can lose people due to mis-blinks.

But what exactly is the downside to playing Myers...Wasting time building meter? I just don't get why you wouldn't play him at this point.
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>>158565547
VERY easy to get stuck in your own ass chasing one survivor while the others work on gens
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>>158565640
I find this hard to accept as a character specific flaw when like, every other killer can waste time by sucking.

I guess his tools do encourage that type of flaw like I said, but still.
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holy FUCK this noobshit jake stood in the open and gave myers ew3
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Anybody else feel like the terror radius, or lack thereof, from Myers is kind of much?

I get that mechanically they're trying to encourage stalking and the mental fear of accurately seeing Myers just look at you, but the fact that he can look through a crack in the tree and build up meter while you're on a generator is kind of bullshit. Motherfuckers play him like a sniper, it's obnoxious.
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>>158565547

He's very easy to hide from unless he's using one of the mirror addons, in which case he's restricted to operating in one of his modes.

He has nothing that allows him to cover map distance quickly, unless the obsession feeds him PWYF.

If you're good at stealth, he doesn't have much to work with. The biggest problem survivors have with him right now is that the behavior of your teammates can fuck you over if they feed him evil and lead him to you.

>>158566521

They do need to tweak stalk so that it only works when you have a clear view of the survivor, and perhaps shorten the range on it a bit.
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>>158563452
I find deerstalker less useful than Nurses Calling. I don't care about downed people crawling away (if thy aren't the last one) unless they get help they're just going to bleed out. NC tells me when someone is healing downed and wounded players.
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>>158535798
I'm genuinely curious how you got this image, was there really some sort of custom match you were able to play with a shitload of survivors?
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>>158566791
I meant Decisive Strike......
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>Michael gets Evil 3 and downs the last two survivors in the basement
>say fuck that and had already booked it across the map to repair a generator
>complete it despite Dying Light 2 debuff
>he just pulls the plug on me not 2 minutes after I completed the gen because I didn't immediately find the hatch or open a gate

Fucking cunt it's not like you don't have a smaller terror radius Jesus Christ
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>>158566884
It was a bug were people could just keep joining the game and it would never end
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>>158567190
I we only taking about killer perks.
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>>158566884
Old bug from beta, now if extra players start loading in it just crashes the game.
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>>158567353
>So what are the must-have perks to watch out for in shrine?
I dont see anything with what he said about just killer perks friendo :^)
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>>158567449
He's a killercuck, he only has experience and knowlege of killer perks so he was only talking about killerperks, not saying that the original topic was only killer perks.
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Fuck
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>>158567782

should've skipped that shrine meme
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>>158567948
They really need to buff that perk. Maybe boost it to 25% Entity progression or make unhooks take longer.
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>>158565547
At some point, i started to think about Trapper just like i think about Wraith.
Billy sucks when he actually has to use his hammer. Also even with the chainsaw he could always use Brutal Stregth. And there are those weird places where he can't charge, those fucking "misses" in front of surviviors faces.
Slow movement of Nurse sucks, but for me it's the screen darkening that seals the deal. During the stun? It's fine. But darkening while blinking, or inbetween blinks? Shit sucks. Makes it hard to aim second blink.
Myers can lose a lot of time building power but there's more to that. You don't always need one-hit, but you need it to be ready, incase someone goes to the time consuming area. If you activate tier 3, there's no going back. You have to use it. If you down someone and hook him, you're kinda waisting the power, if you down someone and go for someone else, first guy gonna be healed before you down the second, meaning - you're waisting the power. Yes, you pull surviviors from the gens that way, but the Evil is finite, while surviviors can escape hook 2 times, be downed as much as they want, run around for minutes. The power can really be wasted. After all that, you must charge the power again. Extra speed is nice, but i think even wraith has more map mobility. Just as folks around here predicted, Myers is wasting a lot of time. Perks can help but they won't cover everything.
I believe, once people start using their brains, Myers will become risk-reward type of killer. Not as risky as Nurse, but still. And then he's gonna be nerfed like shit.
>>158568598
Honestly, if it had extra points, i would take it. Just for fun, like Distressing.
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>>158554965
>NOED
>Instead of Play With Your Food
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>>158568598
fuuuuck no people will fucking run IG/agitation again even when IG is no longer needed in this fucking meta. It's stressful and boring as fuck legit people rarely fuck over hooks because there's better shit to do now.

Seriously nothing boils my blood more than being carried from halfway across the map just to be put in the basement i really wish IG worked with a flat 5/6/7% increase that goes up per hook destroyed.
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>>158569491
I think it's a regional thing. I keep seeing destroyed hooks in my games.
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>>158569491
Maybe have those buffs only work on regular hooks.
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So, didn't they talk about giving people shards based on how much you had played until now, or was that just some rusery and fuckery.
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>>158569618
Well, I feel for you then, I mean I get the use of IG I ran it back when sabo was rampant but it's just obnoxious when there's literally no point in running it anymore since nobody breaks hooks except doing it except just to shit on other people's fun. Take michale, for example, I barely have to camp with him I happily leave the hook area ect, like the only time I "camp" would be when I have zero fucking choices, I'm talking about Corn field+darkest moonlight+Heavy mist. I mean fuuuck that.
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Man nothing worse than having a great game pulling off two man rescues complete with distractions and juking MM. I got like 3 times that game and got away each time and managed to get healed, even got two unhooks one being in the basement only to get killed by MM in the end with 1 gen left.
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>>158570595

got hit*
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Could you charge MMs power while insidious is up?
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>>158571505
No, they patched out being able to use your power with insidious active
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Why the fuck am I doing so bad, I can just not win against fucking Michael Myers, like jesus fucking christ. But now even in a game with a Wraith ffs and I'm the one found and downed immediately.

Windows are fucking useless and unless you have pallets you're not escaping the killer if hes not a complete fucking blind bat.
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>>158571505
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>>158572013
So, no more silent chainsaw in insidious?
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>>158549471
I just got NOED3 at level 12...I don't even want it.
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Man fuck this new map so hard, not fun for survivor or killer.
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>>158561583
>>158563096
stop the bullying
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Comeon mang, let me plunder. Greedy non existant terror radius stalk juice jew.
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>>158569491
You're confusing people running saboteur with people breaking hooks. People don't need sabo anymore because the item update gave an abundance of BETTER toolboxes. Hooks are still being broken plenty
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>>158572910
I enjoy it as both. What's your gripe with it?
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>>158573261
>dying for a green rusty key

top fucking kek
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>>158573261
What did you expect?
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>>158573027
Fuck off Korbin
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>>158573532

That's exactly what I've expected. "Hey his terror radius is so small, that if I plunder this chest I've spawned next to, he'll find me and we'll end up in an awkward staredown". EW1 is always a free hit if MM wants it, so just went with it. Least I've skipped the getting spooked part.
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>>158573627
see? thats bullying, stop being a cyberbully, leafy.

why do you have to bully me all the time? what did i do so wrong?
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>>158573418

I havn't fucking escaped once today. I don't want to start crying about MM being overpowered because thats not it, im losing against billy and wraith, its fucking bullshit. Vaulting is USELESS, pallets help temporarily besides that theres nothing now. Try getting away from a killer after being wounded which will eventually happen because its impossible to get over a pallet 3 times in a row without getting hit. I'm losing so fucking 19's and 20's or people with 1 perk, this is so fucked.
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How much would you pay to punch Korbin the face?
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>>158572243
Yep :(
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>>158574227
All of my Money
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>>158574063
You're never gonna get success jumping over the same pallet, you need to run away from the killer lol. There's so many different paths in that map it's honestly pretty easy to not be seen in the first place let alone lose them if you get found. Just gotta learn when to stop running, which the easiest way to figure out is to just try it at different times, you'll get a feel for it.
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Twitch stream
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https://www.twitch tv/deadbydaylight
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Anyone else keep getting rank 20 teammates? This game is fucking impossible with these faggots all getting caught during 1 EW3 and struggling/dying before it's over
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>>158562759
>not using cheat engine

Kill yourself. Everyone should be using it.
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>>158575258

>cheating

You first faggot.
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>>158575153
Yeah

>>158575258
I don't cheat in multiplayer games.
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>>158575258
>>158562759
>not using cheat engine
wew, why does anyone do this terrible grind of a game?
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>>158574449

No, different pallets, and it's not jusr Haddonfield either I'm losing on every map. I'm just going to stop playing today, no use in getting mad. Eventually the devs will regret these nerfs on everything when there's no player base.
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It really was him.
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>>158575625
>tfw ill never get to play with one of the cuck devs and facecamp his fucking balls off
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>>158575625
im gonna need more proof
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>>158575625
>Killer has earned less BP then the dev

Shame shame shame.
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>reporting for camping

rip me
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>some fag calls me a hacker for 1.) having michael at level 50 the day he came out and 2.) using the scratched mirror, which is basically wallhacking.
>doesn't matter because the devs are retarded
how long until michael is nerfed into the ground, though?
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>Report function

Dont you even dare hit anyone anymore or they will report you.
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>>158576505
>>158576787
Thank you, devs. Just when i thought the game can be good.
Any specifics about reporitng?
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>>158575485
Some people have this thing called moral integrity that prevents them from cheating or exploiting things in an abusive way.
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What's this uberprestige about? Missed first 15 min of the stream.
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>find michael memers in the early game to try and waste as much of his time in EW1 as possible (because that's the only thing that seems to work)
>we play ring around the rosie for a while until he figures out what I'm doing and leaves
>finds two survivors working on a gen
>stalks them in the FUCKING OPEN 3 meters away from them
>EW2 and they're still working on the gen
>EW3 pops
>they finally run
>doesn't matter, both get downed and hooked
>they struggle on the hook, both dying before EW3 runs out
I'm done.
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>>158576083
Not sure why his name isn't showing up. I checked the previous names of the people near the group I played with.
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>>158576927
If you face camp a Twitch streamer you will be banned for life.
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What's so bad about bodyblocking anyways?

It just happened to me for the first time. I just dropped the bitch I was carrying and got a free hit. In what situation does it become a problem?

also
>hook laura
>immediately turn around and see two of them going left around me, one going right
>pursue the two of them with the chainsaw, do a wide arc around and hit the guy on the right
>100% correct that everybody was nearby
>after the game ends with 2 kills in my favor,
>"le camp lel"
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>>158577670
How the fuck are we supposed to use Insidious now?
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>>158577670
>>158576927
>>158576787
>>158576505
just what the game needed! the ability for survivior faggots to mass report killers that outplayed them
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>>158578110
hide in a corner with your nose in the corner so the terror radius doesnt fright survivors
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>>158578110
Afk in front of the hook to grab anybody that tries to unhook them
then get reported
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>>158577670
This is joke, right?
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>>158578743
No, 72hrs sucked off one of the devs and got them to put it in.
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>>158578743

They're saying using game mechanics shouldn't be bannable, however griefers ( throwing down stairs tech ), for something like that they would throw in a report option ( disregard breaking all hooks and running to corners for endless wiggles ). It can get really biased, but we won't know until they act.
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>>158578995
>camping is viable strategy
>camping is viable strategy
>camping is viable strategy
>camping is viable strategy
>camping is viable strategy
>cmaping is no a bannable offense because survivor faggots dont like it.
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>>158578995
Nah, we know how will they do it.
>>158579097
Do you have a twitch vid with devs saying it? I wanna throw in some videos in my negative review, before i drop this shit.
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Maybe my black screen method will help me avoid getting reported.
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>>158579331
im not even watching twitch, reading the recap anon's recap is more entertaining and doesn't take as long, the devs are survivor biased faggots who are incompetent and can't make a balanced game to save their lives.
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>Camping is bannable
>Teabagging is allowed

GG you got a pip :D
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Anyone knows how many times MM can go into tier 3? Wikia says 4 times, once for each survivor, is this correct?
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>Fixed an issue that caused a barrel to spawn underneath a hook in Haddonfield
But it happens fucking everywhere!
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I'm hating the devs with each stream.

"How do you play 500 hours and leave a negative comment review, I just don't get it..."

Maybe some fucking people believed you would fix core abusable game issues and you're still fucking around.
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>You can now stop crying about michael Devs confirmed that Trapper is STILL Deadlier.
Steam forums are just indescribable. Also, no theards about banning, who would have thought.
>>158580315
Speaking of which, did you leave a negative review? I think everyone should do so.
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Summary anon I count on you as always my man.
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>>158580582

I don't know how bad are the infinites with the vault change. I might be giving them a last chance, because this DLC they throwed in a pretty OP killer, and everyone was happy, even the survivor shits getting killed hard. But if they're going to sit at the infinite days later against Mayers...
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>>158577123
In a match, what's the difference between a player who grinded for everything and one who used CE to get everything?
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>>158580948
Infinites exist almost half a year now. How do you still have hope? Vault change may stopped some of them, but Ironworks are still there. That shop on wreckers yard. Etc. And now there's this reporting for "legitimate strategies" thing.
Come on pal, there is no last chances here.
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>>158580315
Starbreeze taught them well
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>>158581470

least I'll have a good argument to put in my review if they ban someone for griefing by throwing down the stairs or something alike, but refuse to touch infinites which spawn griefers left and right
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>>158580315
Fucking canucks, there are plenty of games I have hundreds of hours into that I wouldn't recommend to friends.
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>>158581016
The one who grinded has actually played so he is much more likely to survive than the guy who is basically a rank 20 that gets a two second speed boost at the beginning of the game.
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>>158581016
I wouldn't do it myself, but I don't see the problem in cheating bloodpoints
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>>158582165
Teabagging is griefing too, isn't it?
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Fuck cheat engine hacks. Every fucking killer is so OP now with all tier 3 skills. People are bitching about MM, but it's only because he's the most common one.
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>>158581016
i quit this game a while back because of the grind and unwillingness to cheat engine it
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>>158582571
Not necessarily. I played for at least 300 hours before saying fuck it and maxing my characters. But if anything, yeah, that's the one difference in match. So I find it strange that people call it cheating and bring up things like "moral integrity" (I actually really hope that was a joke but it wouldn't shock me if it wasn't) when talking about doing something that just takes the grind out.

>>158583158
Are you fucking retarded? What you're complaining about is a problem with game balance, not "hacks". People using cheat engine just showed you what a full potential killer is capable of sooner.
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>>158582973
Survivor griefing is not griefing

t.Dave Richards.
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>>158583457
>full potential killer is capable of sooner.
That is exactly what i meant. People didn't threw away countless hours to get all that shit - they just cheated and now we have a game full of them instead of just a few.
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>>158582571
175 hours, none of my characters has all the perks. They don't even have 50 level. Fuck that.
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>>158583705
there's no problem with that tho, it's just you being pissed others got what you have without the dumb grind
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>>158583787

Cuz you're a fucking dumb ass that's why. Focus on one person you fucking retard.
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>>158583457
Moral integrity is important. I'm not going to badmouth you for wanting to skip the grind but I won't be taking part in it. Regardless of the absurdity of thhe grind, it IS cheating so I refuse to do it. I've done just fine without it so far anyways so it's not like it's actually necessary.
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>>158584178
Some people like several characters.
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I wonder who did 72h just dodge. I can only wish to ever get to that kind of "rank".
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>>158583947
Now are you fucking retarded for real? Instead of just a few matches with fully geared and leveled killers we have a full fucking game filled with them - problem is the quantity of them.
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>>158584428

Ok, several. Not all. No ones fault but his own.
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>>158583947

Are you trying to validate your cheating you little scummy weasel? Believe what you want you're still a filthy piece of shit and that won't ever change.
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>>158584875
So your point is that it's bad having characters at their strongest face off against each other?
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>>158585104
Liking more than one character is a fault now?
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>>158585104
>want to play all killers to have a variety in killer gameplay
>havent grinded 1000 hours
at least survivors all play the same so they only need to grind for 1 really
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>>158585249
I don't cheat because the grind is half of what keps me playing, but I can totally understand why people would want to skip that part
Being unable to use more than a single crappy perk is infuriating when facing people with 4 super rare ones.
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>>158585273

No but going in you should know a certain amount of hours is only going to get you so many levels so use them how you wish but don't get mad you can't get everyone max level.
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does anyone have a link to the live action sketch about survivorcucks they played at the start of the screen?
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>>158585480
This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSckKVzZ3NQ
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>>158585440
Are we supposed to accept the grind?
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>>158585440
>game offers variety
>making use of that variety puts you on a disadvantage because progress is bound to a single character
>that's somehow okay
It's not, it's bad design
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>>158585271
The prblem is in pacing. It takes so much more time to make 1 high level killer with tier 3 perks than 4 survivors. Regular games were pretty good geared survivors vs whatever geared killers. Sometimesyou meet high level killer that have an advantage on you.
Now the balance issues that were not so obvious and problematic due to grind are obvious - fully leveled killer outperforms 4 fully leveled survivors(without imba equipment).
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>>158583705
So it's okay to be "OP" as long as they grinded for it?

>>158584220
And who are you cheating against when you skip the grind? Leveling your character isn't a competition. In a match you have no advantage over someone who grinded to get to the same point. If anything, as another pointed out, you'd be at a disadvantage because you'd have less experience.

The only time CE becomes a problem is if someone uses it to get infinite items/addons/offerings. It still wouldn't be cheating though, as those items can be obtained legitimately. However, it would be a problem if everyone started doing that and had Moris every game. But that's still more a problem with the game. Rarity is a terrible way to balance a game because it gives advantage to people with more luck rather than skill.

>>158584875
But it would have reached that point eventually even without CE. That makes it a problem with the game, not with CE.
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>>158585841
I't feels more like the killer need good perks to be able to hold his ground against the basic things survivors can do like breaking hooks and just infinitely standing behind a pallet so you either abandon or have to eat the stun
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So did they change heal/recovery speeds? Why isn't it in the patch notes?
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Backed up and removed my existing save so I could level Myers without having tons of useless teachables in the tree.

Grind would be quick if I could get games, his point generation is crazy.

Also he's going to be nerfed in about a month so I'm not sure it's even worth it.
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>>158586176
You have access to something you're not supposed to. You had to use methods that were prohibited and are actively worked against (albeit not very well). If you wouldn't have had it in that point in time without cheating, then you have an advantage that you shouldn't have. The game being badly designed doesn't stop it from being cheating, you're just trying to justify it to yourself.
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>>158585768

Yes, everyone is, thats part of the game. But truthfully it doesn't matter anymore since the cheating wasn't stop in the first place. Same shit happened with GTAO, was great at first when you had to work for stuff but as soon as cheaters got their way everything became pointless.
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>>158586409
That change came ages ago
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>>158586606

No I mean, nerfing them with this DLC patch.
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>>158586531
The problem is - being survivor is pointless now. And matchmaking as killer takes too long.
Grind solved the problem that came with assymetric gameplay. To make a match you need 4 survivors and 1 killer. They grind faster and get better\more loot. So the games are relatively full, coz survivors teams have grind advantage. But when you take that away - everything falls apart.
Game kept a distance between two sides with grind - it's gone now.
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(1/5)
- Gay video by some twitch streamer -

Funfact, the video actually calls out how survivors infinite and teabag and act like dickheads as much as possible and the devs apparently don't feel like addressing those issues despite showing a video talking about them.

- Gay introductions -

- Nothing happens -

Devs are going to give out free shit in the next patch, which is "soon" or "very soon." It's just glowing eyes for killers. God forbid killers get good customizables.

"STATS. COMMENTS. MISTAKES WE'VE MADE. WE'RE WORKING ON IT."

Devs hotfixed the resolution bug w/ MM.

1 dev doesn't think MM is "that OP." He's apparently not as "efficient" as the trapper. Apparently someone is getting a bug where Spies is triggering for the killer whenever they walk near crows again. GG devs.

Devs are very proud of MM.

Devs are adding a report ability as soon as possible. You can report for *camping*, botting, survivors/killers working together, and being "toxic" in chat. You will be banned if reported enough. The devs themselves have never banned anyone, it has always been through EAC and VAC (???).

Dwight is clearly pissed about people complaining about his game.

Grind is still supposed to be reduced eventually. The devs will NOT lower the cost of the bloodweb because fuck you that's too simple. They will reward originally prestiged players for wasting their lives after they switch to a less grindy system.

Q: How will this keep salty players from reporting falsely?

A: One report will not get you banned. The system is not automated, it's manual. We will go through "The data" to determine if a ban is warranted. "The data is God."

HOOK CAMPING (lol)

"That's annoying! Nobody likes it! We think it makes the game no fun for everyone, even the killer!"

Devs have a solution they will try "soon" that they will put in the beta. They want to change the bleedout on the hook. You don't bleedout on the first hook stage anymore (????????)
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>>158586514
How do you know if I'm supposed to have it? The progression system is completely random. Someone who's level 25 could potentially have the same loadout as someone who's P3 Level 50 with everything unlocked.
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>>158587141
(2/5)
Gay prestige question

Q: Who is the most used/effective killer?

A: MM has a huge spike in usage since he literally just came out. The most efficient killer is still the trapper.

Q: Will MM get uber prestige rewards?

A: No.

Q: I live in Russia so I can't get rare clothes :(

A: We'll sell you those items goy

Uber prestige items are a costume or whatever.

Q: Will the nurse get uber prestige?

A: Yes.

Devs are planning to release a new customizable pack for you to waste money on. It looks to be for killers and the devs showed the hillbilly in a Freddy Krueger costume.

Q: Will you punish people abusing the report function?

A: Yes.

Gay dev question

Q: Are you happy with the vault changes?

A: Dwight is. Nu-male thinks it helps remove a lot of infinites and doesn't think windows have been rendered useless. Paul says the internet is pissed because they had to "adapt."

Q: Do you play your game sometimes?

A: Yesterday a ton of people on the dev team were playing, actually. Dwight had a good time and he usually played killer before but decided to try out survivor.

Q: Point compensation for survivors if a teammate disconnects?

A: Sure. One dev gets confused and thinks they meant when a killer D/C's.

Dwight watched 3 QA members play a SWF group and apparently the QA people were screaming in fear because they presumably don't ever play the game. One tester got a little sick, only one escaped.

Q: Can you guys stream yourselves playing?

A: That'd be fun.

Q: Any fix for Laurie's voice?

A: Yep, coming.

Q: New ranking system that doesn't depend on BP soon?

A: Not soon.

Q: Remove hook time for killer? (???)

A: What?

GAME CHANGES

Devs are aware that people thought 25k BP was a stupidly low number for rebuying a teachable. They might change it now.

Some people like the new UI or hate it. The devs like it though.

Window vaults/vacuum were removed. T-Walls are back.

No santa clause killer/survivor for christmas.
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>>158587257
(3/5)
Q: What do you think about a training mode?

A: No. No training wheels. You just get murdered.

Q: What do you think of the new wiggle perk that stuns killers because lol balance

A: IT'S GREAT! IT'S AWESOME! IT MAKES FOR GREAT MOMENTS! (Devs confirm they literally have never played a high rank game ever)

Q: Will you implement AI?

A: No.

Obsession mechanic. Devs like it. Devs are going to change one of Laurie's perks to work when not the obsession but won't be as effective.

Q: Will you allow for BP gain in KYF mode?

A: But the grind bro. We're releasing a competitive mode that will replace KYF and won't give you points.

Q: Crawler killer?

A: It's not a thing.

Trapper trapping with traps: The trapper's traps have been fixed since they weren't working right before when next to hooks. This has pissed off a lot of survivor mains. Devs acknowledge that traps make it hard to save survivors.

Devs also clarify that you can disarm traps by just. Not. Moving. Retard survivor mains ignore this.

Q: Can we get Paul as a survivor?

A: No.

Q: You're just rewarding and promoting camping for trappers!

A: No we're not.

Devs don't want to modify in-game mechanics that are cool and fun just to avoid camping. Devs reiterate that you can report those rotten campers though!!

"Killers! You don't have to kill someone! The game is so much fun if you let them escape!" <--- DIRECT QUOTE

Devs are planning to maybe highlight SWF group members in the after-game tally screen so people stop bitching about matchmaking. Will not address SWF breaking the game.

- Nothing happens for 5 minutes -

Q: Can we have controller sensitivity back?

A: It's in the list.

[ FROM THE WEB. Go watch the stream yourself. ]

A girl walks into the video. Patricia is here to show off a tattoo on her arm. Go to 1 hour 3 minutes to fap or whatever. She's one of the top QA survivors.
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Flawless matchmaking
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What the fuck.

The devs said in today's stream that to prevent hook camping, they will be pushing an update that makes it so you do NOT bleedout in the first phase on the hook, unless you actively try to escape with M1. So you could hang there fucking forever if you wanted to.
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>>158587367
(4/5)
Q: Will it be possible to uber prestige after the patch?

A: Nope. (Rev up those Cheat Engines)

Q: What are your plans if the survivor pop. is low compared to killers?

A: It's not, retard. The pop has always been the same, there has NEVER been a lack of killers or survivors!

Devs will not change other killers' terror radii. Wraith's cloak has been improved so clearly that means he's balanced at last. Devs are salty about people saying that the wraith is underpowered.

Q: Any plans to add more animals?

A: Maybe.

[ Literally nothing for 20 minutes ]

Q: Are you looking into the basement drop mechanics?

A: We're looking into it. Griefers are very inventive so we should just give up.

Q: Are you gonna add another entrance to the basement?

A: No, stop fucking asking.

Q: Will you be able to buy shards with real money?

A: No.

Q: Are shards reset each week?

A: No, you can save them up to 1,000.

Q: When are you going to make it so whispers doesn't trigger on dead/hooked/carried survivors?

A: Uhhhh it should be fixed.

Q: Can we have a double BP weekend

A: We'd sure love to do that.

Q: Will the game come to consoles?

A: It's very likely.

Q: Trading or crafting system?

A: Not yet.

Q: What motivates you guys to improve DBD?

A: We love the game. We play it and love watching people play it.

Q: Audio or visual notifications for NOED?

A: YES! WE'RE ADDING THIS IN BECAUSE FUCK NOED! HELL YEAH! It's okay because MM does sort of the same thing!

I just want you guys to know I've skipped 40% of the questions because they're pointless or dumb. You're not missing anything I'm not writing down.

Q: How many more killers are you guys looking at adding?

A: Let's not say numbers.

Q: Can you make the cloaked wraith vault quickly?

A: LOL

[ French question about new hiding mechanics for survivors ]

A: They think that'd be neat. But they won't go for prone.
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What is this uber prestige shit?
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>>158587492
(5/5)
Q: New maps?

A: Yes.

Devs are looking into adding new things to do and get rewarded for (Such as hiding from the killer all game)

Q: Will the entity ever take the form of a killer?

A: Boy that'd be neat.

Devs are happy with the change to hooks, making them match the maps and not the killer.

Q: Are you happy with the DLC sales?

A: Yes, please buy more.

Q: Will you revert vault nerfs?

A: No.

Q: Can you allow 5 perks at once?

A: No. Four perks is the max.

DBD has been nominated for 4 canadian game rewards. Be sure to vote for their competitors.

Dwight is very confused by player that hundreds of hours and leave a negative review. How dare someone not enjoy their experience after seeing the devs break the game!

Words of wisdom:

Don't watch the dev stream.
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>>158587192
Other people not being aware of it doesn't mean you're not cheating anon.
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>>158587403
Guess fucking why. Survivors getting pissed facing full leveled killers with perfect perks. they're too fucking strong now.
>>158587448
Would make wonders with kindred, lol.
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>2 Faggot saboteurs with a toolbox
>Come across one of them in the first 20 seconds of the match messing with a hook
>Kill and camp him
>Same with the other one

The rest of the match was the usual, guy hanging from a hook while the last one ignores him and camps the hatch.
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>>158587574
Once the devs introduce whatever fuckery they have planned to reduce grind and level up faster, everyone who originally wasted their lives and prestiged a bunch will get special uber prestige outfits so everyone can dodge their lobbies.
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>>158587630
Then what does make it cheating? You don't have any advantage that isn't possible through normal means and it doesn't actually affect anyone else.
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>>158564208

>tfw The Entity said you could kill your sister but not your parents
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wait the new killer has walls ?
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Holy fuck. Last update was ~150 mb, ok nothing new. But now i accidently saw how much space it needs while installing. 10 fucking gigabytes to install some bugfixes.
>>158586846
I didn't see any difference, surviviors keep getting up like nothing.
>>158587057
I don't think i understand you. What's the problem wih assymetric gameplay and how does grind solve it?
>>158586514
While having the Big Fucking Gun on the first level is wrong, the argument here was the lack of skill to back up cheated perks. What if i'm a decent player without much free time to play. And if i want to pay for perks (forgive me god), i can't. At the same time, many people who grinded their way to the perks, play like shit. Who's supposed to have those perks here?
>>158587141
Love you dude.
>>158587448
So, i chainsaw a couple retards trying to save hooked one. With some luck, down the fourth one. How the fuck are they going to die then?
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>>158587257
timestamp for hte Freddy Krueger costume thing?
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>>158587448
won't this encourage hook camping?
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>>158588072
No, it would force killers to actively let people get unhooked the first time.
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>>158587141

>You can report for *camping*, botting, survivors/killers working together, and being "toxic" in chat. You will be banned if reported enough.

So camping is a bannable offense but using infinites and teabagging isn't?

Nice I'm glad the developers have found a way to actively kill this game instead of just slowly asphyxiating it to death.
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>>158588000
I wouldn't say it's Freddy, after finding it. Looks more like a weird farmhand outfit.

It'd look ok if it didn't have the cowboy hat.
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>>158587840
Let's apply this to sports. It's totally possible to become fuckig ripped naturally, it just takes time. Take steroids for a while and now you can compete with other people without spending time at the gym to earn it. No one knows you used steroids though, so it's okay.

Again, the system being poorly designed doesn't make your cheating not cheating. You're just arguing semantics to try and worm around it and somehow justify it to me, which doesn't really make sense since we are both aware it is cheating and if the devs weren't retarded it would be punished. You can do it all you like as far as I'm concerned, but it's still cheating.
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>>158587981
That was never the argument. The argument is if using cheat engine (hmm) to boost your bp and max out your killers and survivors is cheating or not.
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>>158588427
It's obviously cheating, but not the kind that gives you an unfair -meaning otherwise unobtainable- edge on your enemies
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>>158587141
At no point have I ever felt like this game needed a report feature.
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>>158588141
So matches against shit survivors will be exactly the same as they are now and matches against skilled survivors will be nigh-unwinnable?
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>>158587448
>hook hungrypug
>bodyblock so nobody can rescue him
>alt tab to watch his stream as everyone goes into an autistic rage
>see how long his patience lasts
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>>158588669
Yeah. They'll just leave hooked guys on the hook and won't even try to unhook them unless you're literally on the other side of the map and actively chasing someone else.
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So no free weekend right before halloween when a new dlc just dropped?
Are these frogs retarded or do they just hate money?
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>>158588934
They did a free weekend with the Nurse, shit was bad.
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>>158588427
Is grinded time the only thing that decides should you have the perks or not?
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>>158589021
Only because they fucked the matchmaking.
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so now that object of obsession works if you're not the obsession, it's basically just a perk that gives you free wallhacks on the killer?
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>>158589325
Killer gets free wallhacks on you in return so it seems fair to me. Only benefits you if he doesn't use that to kill you right away.
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So they're essentially making the first hook not count

Like, there's no chance of actually getting a sacrifice unless you're hooking them for the 2nd time.
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>>158589484
"Camping is a legit strategy"
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>>158589484
You're forgetting something, survs are point hungry pigs who will rush for the unhook regardless
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>>158589405
Are we sure that the killer gets wallhacks on you if you aren't the obsession? because it now works for the survivor even if the survivor is not the obsession. They just made the change an hour or 2 ago
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>>158587448
Honestly if I find somebody sabotaging my hook, right in front of me, I should have the right to camp them on that very hook.
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>>158589210
Releasing a new, strong killer that nobody knows how to play against, while letting in a lot of new players? That's not gonna help much. Especially if even rank 1 players didn't fucking read about Myers and the way he works.
>>158589710
Smart ones can use it very fucking effectively.
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>>158590014
Honestly, if I find someone camping my teammate right in front me I should have the right to unhook him for free.
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>>158590951
Did the devs say this
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>>158591082
Yes, now move aside so I can help this shitter.
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>>158591402
Okay, would you like to fuck my wife while you're at it?
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just sitting in an empty lobby listening to old Mikey Myers breathe is the new gamemode
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>>158588000
This, i suppose?
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>>158592734
Can't unsee the crappy scarecrow
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>>158592734

hot damn, that is amazing
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>>158592734
thanks russian foxy
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>>158588285
The problem with the steroid analogy is that athletics are inherently unequal. Some people simply cannot reach the level of others regardless of how much effort they put in. Video games are meant to be primarily about skill. In that sense everyone should be on an equal playing field. Which is why such upgrade mechanics are terrible. I know you agree with that.

The issue is that I was thinking of cheating in a competitive sense, which I still don't think applies here. In a sense that it's avoiding something undesirably/taking a shortcut, yes, that would make it cheating.

However this was also an argument about morals which is why I was justifying things. You were the one who brought up moral integrity after all (presumably). I was simply trying to explain my morals on the subject. I don't see skipping the grind in a video game as immoral and have trouble understanding why someone would.
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>>158593951
Again, i believe if buying BP\perks\levles\etc were possible, some people would do that instead of CE magic.
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>Dev makes it so that first hook doesn't count anymore towards death
>Killers catch 1 infinite looper per match
>Hook
>Stand in front to block unhooks
>AFK until the survivor ragequits from never dying but being unable to leave
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>>158595920
And that's why devs are going to create Report thing.
Also, they didn't create it because of infinites before, no. Only now, for the surviviorbabies.
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>>158530521
>and EW 3 will have the duration and lunge toned down so that you're forced to use it on single targets at the right moment
hol up
Are you saying I am doing it wrong by charging EW then stop when it's almost full just to go EW3 on the right moment?
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>>158596401
Just go Billy after the nerfs. When they'll come for Billy, it won't be long until F13\Last Year, i hope.
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I can see it now
>survivor waits on hook the whole game and no one rescues them
>wiggles off
>gets downed and put back on so he can actually die
>why didn't you respect the 5%
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>>158595920
They're most likely going to enlarge the spots you can get the unhook prompt
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How do I prevent hook deforestation?

rank 9 hillbilly here. don't know how to stop people from breaking my hooks and sometimes i can't even see basement hooks when i'm out of normal ones
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>>158596791

You don't. You deal with the aftermath and just collect those +850 points per chainsaw hit and sprinting deviousness.
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>>158596791
Iron grasp + Agitation should cover every possible distance, but i'm not sure about it.
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>>15859679
Hooks are irrelevant if you play billy, just run Nurses Calling and Deerstalker.
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>>158592734
Great T-pose
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>>158596791
Leave them all on the ground while chainsawing around, they reap what they sow.
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Holy fuck this is upsetting
Not only it took over 5 minutes to find a match, these past two games one fuck didn't load and on the last one a fuck quit right away, the remaining two survivors were playing hide and week and I only caught one, other kept hiding and ignoring gens, like fuck you i'm not gonna look all over the map to find your retard ass.
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>>158597942
After pretending to be afk the cunt came to the shack to farm boldness and i caught him.
and yes I know I have whispers but I got the perk just now and have no idea how the fuck it works.
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>>158598129
Forget about the sound. The icon starts glowing when surivvior is in range.
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>>158598129
>whispers 1
That's the entire map minus the gates on the small autohaven map. Don't bother until you have 3
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>>158598307
Heh I was ignoring the sound and had my eye on the buff bar, but still 46 meters is a huge radius and doubt I would find any decent survivors with just that perk.
Question: do hooked survivors trigger it?
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Is there even a reason to not take a perk in the bloodweb?
Feels like if I skip a crappy one they'll just reappear instead of giving me decent ones
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>>158598765
yeah, they repeat until you take them, always get the perk
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>tfw he's not getting those struggle points

he was downed as mikey was about to down me too, but I've escaped
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>get hooked right before second to last guy dies
>tab out and wait for the killer to dc so I don't lose items and rank.

gg
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>>158598909
>Dwight skip walking
kek
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>>158598573
On level 3 it's 32 meters. It kinda helps. You know someone's nearby and check where they could be hiding. If perk's not working, you don't waste time looking.
Hooked ones trigger it, despite "fixes". Dead ones don't seem to trigger it anymore.
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>can't glowing eyes and bloody shirt

Shit game
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>>158550738
I think scratched mirror is probably worse. Twice the range and almost non-existent terror radius. You're slow as fuck, but Play With Your Food can make up for that and even without it it's easy to cut off the survivors and jumpscare them for a free hit. 32 meter range means it's basically impossible for them to shake you.

At the same time it makes for the most authentic slasher experience. Running from a slow killer thinking you lost them only for them to pop up in front of you. Incredibly fun just for spooking people.
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>>158599789
You can sneak up on them easy, but good luck catching them for a second hit.
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>>158599789
With tier 1, you don't even need infinites to get fucked.
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>>158599789
Yeah you kinda need Play With Your Food against decent survivors. I got memed on for a bit by the Meg in this game. >>158556612
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>>158599613
>Shit game
we know
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>>158600087
Just keep your distance occasionally checking where they are and cut them off. They can't see where you are with obstacles in the way and they don't know how close you are without the heartbeat. Eventually they'll think they lost you. If they stop to heal then approach them from a direction with a lot of things obstructing their view so they don't know you're there until it's too late.
>>
>harvesters
What kind of shithead thought these are a good idea?
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>>158600676
Thing is, can you get close enough before they're healed?
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>Fixed an issue making it possible for The Shape to stalk survivors inside closets

Aww I didn't know about this.
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>>158601018
get free stalk from it
trap it
go over it
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i don't know how to play survivor
>>
>play trapper
>sacrifice all the shitters
>even hook two of them twice
>still get less points than a fucking level 2 Meyers
thanks devs.
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Match 3 here we go
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>add a post game chat
>add a report system because people were saying mean things at the chat

BRAVO FROGFUCKER DEVS
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>>158601956
Four more days to halloween, halloween, halloween, four more days to halloween silver shamrock
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>>158601492

Me neither, mayers broke me. Now I'm just laughing at myself everytime I play.
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>>158602270
the fucking wraith breaks me senpai
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>>158601034
are you that bad that they heal before you get there from 32 meters????

????
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>>158602791
Takes like 3 seconds to heal with a medkit.
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I take back what I said about rank 20s. They are not adorable.
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>>158601968
>call camping a legit strategy
>make it a bannable offense
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>>158602986
exaggeration eyyyyyyy
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>>158603168
Soon after they met face to face with streamers they started to look into the camping "problem".
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>>158603181
>I am the obsession
>He has best for last
>doesn't want to chase me down
>crawl next to him in the corn
>sneak at his feet, he even bumps into me
>still doesn't kill me
>somehow end stalking Mayers all game long
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>>158603549
Also quoting for no reason
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>>158603518
So, streamers bullied frogs into this? lol
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>>158587612
Cheers, doing gods work
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So, what, is the official stance on infinites just "Have play with your food" now?
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>>158604478

the official stance is "Shut Up"
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>>158604478
The new instance is "Buy our DLC or play this boring suffocating bitch if you hate infinites, goy"

EW3 alone works too, have you seem the fast vaulting speed?
>>
frogs fired

https://oddshot
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it's a shame I can only get mixed lobbies of rank 1s and 20s in the same game. The only time I had 3 rank1s and a rank4 I was memeing with the EW1 Mirror where I 4man'd, but I'd still like a game where survivors play smart against vanilla MM
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Question, I don't play Dead By Daylight, but isn't Mike Myers a shittier Hillbilly since Hillbilly can always has access to a weapon that downs survivors in 1 hit and allows him to always go fast?
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>>158606018

It's way easier to dodge Billy's instadown. You just need to stay away from open areas with no cover.
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>>158606018
The Hillbilly's 1-shot weapon requires skill and the right terrain and timing to use, while Myers just has to chase them and hit M1.
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>>158606018
He's a Wraith/Hillbilly hybrid that takes very little skill. That's why there are so many survivor mains playing him right now.

Killer queues weren't this bad when the Nurse came out.
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>>158606375
>>158606394
So Hillbilly is in fact better, but harder to play, is that what you're saying?
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>>158606489
Better? Not really. He's certainly harder to play though. Once Myers gets nerfed Hillbilly may be better.
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>>158606489
Hillbilly's basically always going to be the best killer because he's the best at patrolling and he doesn't have to dick around and play the survivor's game most of the time because he can just run up to their ass point blank and chainsaw them

That said there are maps that make Hillbilly generally pretty fucking miserable to play, Asylum, Azarov's Resting Place and probably Haddonfield, I haven't played it yet but it seems pretty bad
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>>158606375
>>158606394
Don't forget melee-billy.
>>158606489
I think it's too early to decide. I'm yet to play Myers against good surviviors. But so far, Hillbilly seems more efficient to me.
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>>158566884
It used to put multiple lobbies together sometimes.
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>>158606018
The chainsaw is not instant, and competent players will avoid situations where you can be chainsawed at blank point range

Meanwhile, a M1 is instant
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Wait a minute, did the frogs change the way perks allign in the menu? The first perk i had on Myers is somewhere in the middle now.
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>>158606721

yeah that's the thing, any window or pallet and melee Billy switches to actual melee M1 Billy
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>>158606963
But what does Myers have in such situation? Slightly faster movement and slightly bigger lunge. Is this enough? I'm playing him but can't decide yet. Possible insta down is just a time saver in those areas.
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>>158606895
They changed perks, and all inventory stuff, so that they are ordered by rarity and name.
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>>158607274
He also vaults faster
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not gonna lie, that was quite the moment when I turned around

"HOLY SHIT, OUT OF THE WAY DWIGHT"
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>>158607274
I honestly prefer MM right now, because he counters the current meta of aggressive survivors. The people complaining he's OP are the same people who teabag behind a pallet or self heal in front of the killer.

He doesn't take skill right now because the survivors are idiots and almost intentionally feed him power.

Almost every game with him for me has gone:

>Survivor teabags behind pallet
>Stalk while they do it
>They taunt long enough to give EW III
>One hit down them
>Que post-game chat about how BS he is.

They're both better for different reasons.
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>>158608016

Damn that Hillbilly is relentless.
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It hasn't even been a minute you dipsticks.
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>See two bald dwights
>"Time to break out the ebony!"
>Switch my perks around
>Forget to put up the ebony

Dwights lived the longest sadly. Still, glad I got em.
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>>158607579
Bet they're just hiding how they fucked up with common perks.
>>158608131
I just keep thinking that Myers and Hillbilly are on the same level, but at the same time i'm not sure about it. That certain unpleasant feeling.
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>>158602270

>Bold
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>>158608956
Yeah, probably. I guess I need to get to level 70 to get Iron Grasp?
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Wasn't the obsession perk they had suppose to be a big fucking mystery?
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>>158609046
Usually, you either get it in first 5 levels, or you get it when there're only common perks left.
>>158609124
Only you know that you're an obsession, until you die, if you manage that.
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>>158608131
What he said
MM greatly punishes cockiness and retardation, which 99% of surbabbys are full of

https://www.twitch
.tv/angrypug_/v/97061317?t=5h51m50s
https://www.twitch
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>>158609257
>Only you know
>Implying SWF faggots don't automatically tell each other and once again break the game
>>
>>158606863
it takes longer for you to get to EW III than to chainsaw
>>
Anyone else getting kicked off the game because it says you are not connected to Steam even though I am.
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>>158609505
>Sloppy
>SWF
Nah. Valid point though.
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>>158609559
Just staring at someone gives you instant and no cooldown chainsaw and rapeman vaulting speed
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>>158609778
You first have to fill the bar which makes you slower than a chainsaw revving billy and takes longer, and Billy can use his chainsaw from the very beginning. There also isn't a loud as fuck HIDE IN THE NEAREST LOCKER FOR A MINUTE noise that plays to survivors across the map
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>>158609471
He punishes any sort of play. He can spot you with his stalking mode, if you run away he gains power by stalking you, if you run for cover then you're not gaining distance and he can follow and down you normally with Evil Within 2. There's really no strategy to deal with Myers.
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>>158610097
It's called
Learn how to hide
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>>158610097

Bro.. Come on don't ruin this.
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>>158610167
You can't really hide from a killer. Even with spine chill if they're coming for you, you don't have time to get more than a few metres away from the generator. They can easily find you.
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>>158610097

You're one of those people that like to stop at a pallet and wait for a killer to get near it so you can use it as a safe space where he can't hurt you, aren't you? Myers exists to fuck you for your scummy playstyle. Sorry to be the one to tell you this.
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>>158610379
What else am I supposed to do? Continue running past the pallet and get hit before I can get to the next one? Throw it down as I run, prompting him to go around it and not miss a beat?
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>>158610506

Hey my man I don't think you've figured out the purpose and intention of this game. Y'see if the killer finds you then you already fucked up. There's ways to get around that fuck up and get away but your primary conceptual understanding should be that if you're running from the killer then you already fucked up what you're supposed to be doing.

You have an objective to do remember? One that implies you should be figuring out how to outmaneuver the single threat in the game coming after you with an at least semi-intelligent person on the other end.

Well I guess unless that motherfucker's got a Scratched Mirror and then you better watch out because gave up a good hunk of his speed and lunge distance to see through fucking walls for 32 meters. He can't pursue worth a fuck when he's using it though so he's going to have to rely on sneaking up on you.
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>>158611208
I agree with what you're saying, but to be fair, the useless devs give far more points for being a taunting memer who ties up the killer on a pallet filled chase while his SWF teammates bang all the gens out.

Bold points are a mistake.

I agree with that idea anon had a while back, survivors should have a category that starts with the full 8k points, and they get reduced everytime you're interacting/near the killer, so the incentive is to hide and avoid the killer, not actively seek him out to farm him.
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>>158610321
My countless games with 0-10 bold points says otherwise. You can hide from ANY killer. But since that's not how most survivors played the game now they're buttblasted that they have to actually outplay the killer.
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>>158611208
I'm not a survivor cuck but you know that michael has a fucking survivor radar, right? He can even get wallhacks with the right addons.
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>>158611208
There is no way to not get spotted by the killer if you're actually doing your generator repair job.
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>hook someone
>chainsaw away and hit someone else
>chainsaw back
>reported for camping and get banned for 24 hours
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>>158610321
>spine chill
you know how I know you're shit at the game?
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Instead of saying adapt we should say evolve when people complain on the steam forums, maybe the devs will be reminded of a similar game that is now dead before they make kneejerk changes based on whining.
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Here's a pro-tip for retard survivors.

Run away from the basement if you are being chased.
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I just found out you can sprint burst while crawling.
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Holy fuck. Save the Best for Last and Unrelenting are HILARIOUS together.
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>>158612335
again, not true
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>>158613350
Please tell me how you manage to get so far away from the generator by the time the heartbeat/spine chill activates that the killer won't find you.
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>>158613236
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>>158613904
It's just a slightly faster crawl.
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tfw i never really learned how to hide as survivor and now I can't stop deranking against Myers
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>>158614237
"hiding" means doing nothing.
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>>158614237
Just use lockers, man
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>>158611437

That does sound like a pretty good idea and I hope the dev team think about it. BE listen to the community sometimes. Usually they listen in all the wrong ways but they do listen. Miracles can happen.

>>158611531

I'm not sure why you're asking if I know since I directly reference it in my post and what he has to give up to use it.
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>wraith in auto wreckers
>iron grasp 1 and unrelenting 3 only
>no addons
>hook two fags and kill the third one
>Don't feel like playing hide and seek with jake
>pretend to be afk near hatch
>this fucker farms his points, opens both doors, farms some more boldness
>takes him 5 minutes to fuck off
>post game chat: *some spic insult* "SHIT CAMPER HURr"
Back to michael I guess.
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>>158613428
I don't use those two perks. But I also pick my gens based on my perks, or lack thereof. Some gens are just in a bad position for me to work on. But really I just use the heartbeat and my eyes to stay hidden. and continue to move away from the killer as he searches around the gen, usually towards where he came from since that's the least likely place he'll go.

I won't say it works every time of course. But I'd give myself an 85% or so success rate.

A question I have is, if you think it's impossible to hide from a killer even with spine chill and premonition, why do you use them? Because if I DID use premonition then it would jump up to a 99% success rate for sure.

Then again I've been sneaking my whole survivor life, never did any of that pallet safe space infinite window shit everyone seems to love. It's payed off TONS in playing against Myers, while a lot of people are crying about him. It's hilarious
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>>158614952
>Some gens are just in a bad position for me to work on.
In other words, you hide in a corner, wait until the killer has engaged someone else, and exclusively repair the easy gens boxing your team into a situation where only the hard ones are left for the end.

>But really I just use the heartbeat and my eyes to stay hidden
By the time the heartbeat kicks in he's five seconds away, and most generators are protected by obstructions that prevent you from seeing that the killer is coming.
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No proof needed lads. Let's get all those toxic killercucks banned!
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>>158614516
Lockers actually aren't too bad at the very start of the game. I use one almost every game until the killer is known.

>>158614328
You only have to hide when the killer is nearby. And if "doing nothing" will save your life and ALSO waste the least amount of time so you can go back to the objective, I'd say it's worth it.
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>>158614678
But you directly contradict that in your own post
>Just hide
>By the way, he can find you at any time

You neglected to mention his survivor radar, so let me break it down for you

>Stand on hill
>Hold RMB
>Search for glowing red things/stalking meter fill

Imo the only thing that needs to be nerfed about him because its obviously unintended and the frogs are too retarded to realize the implications of the mechanic
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>>158615187
>implying murf knows anything beyond the livestream
This are just his hotpocket fueled delusions.
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>>158615087
>In other words, you hide in a corner, wait until the killer has engaged someone else, and exclusively repair the easy gens boxing your team into a situation where only the hard ones are left for the end.
Notice I said bad ones FOR ME. such as any gen fully encased in a building (Except the shack IF the basement is there) or one that is just out in the open. I work on gens that are only partially covered so I can watch some directions and if there's a heartbeat and I can't see him, he's obviously on the other side of the wall somewhere. Or the gens in the corn because those are just free.

>By the time the heartbeat kicks in he's five seconds away, and most generators are protected by obstructions that prevent you from seeing that the killer is coming.
Five seconds is a looong time lol, my first statement here kinda explains the obstruction of generators thing. Here's a trick you can try, if you stop repairing when you hear a heartbeat, stay next to the gen, use the gen as cover and skirt around it if you need to. If the killer doesn't hear someone actively working on it most of the time they won't look directly at it, they'll search the surrounding area. Also, not really related to hiding, but a nice trick is to just tap a gen at the start so it starts making noise, then leave it completely and go somewhere else. The killer will waste time searching around that one looking for nobody.

Or would you rather I say "Yup if you ever get in the terror radius you're basically dead. If you ever hear a heartbeat just quit the game because you WILL be caught and WILL be hooked." Laughable.
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>>158615995
Also to add to the part about the killer being engaged with another prey, that's when I do the difficult gens, if the opportunity is there.
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>>158615995
>If the killer doesn't hear someone actively working on it most of the time they won't look directly at it, they'll search the surrounding area
Only if you're well into the match and no visible progress has been made on the generator since the last time the killer started it.
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>>158615187

If this is real, I'll get myself banned to be done with this game. They can keep their FUN, daisies and participation awards for breathing.
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>>158616194
True, these are things you have to factor in to whether you move or not. You won't always make the right decision which is fine, but it's also not impossible. Plus those kind of plays are much more exciting for me than being found and running from pallet to window to pallet and just standing in front of the killer like an idiot.
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>>158616197
That killercuck asshole was camping that dead hook, let's starting banning him
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>just used Scratched Mirror
holy fucking shit this is great, I need more of them now
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Eat shit killercuck!
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>>158619519
>sloppy drops a bugged pallet
How many times this week have you done this besides the two you've already posted?
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>>158621002
That was the second time I ever did it.
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>>158615187

>game developer creates user-based report system
>game developer pays people to manually check people with lots of reports
>people who manually check these characters can toss out bans from a $25 game

It's like they're begging for the impending shitstorm of clickbait articles about their ban policy.
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I have never understood survivors bitching about camping. It hurts the killer more than it hurts the survivors as a group. Camping is used to remove particularly annoying players at the cost of having a harder time catching the others before they escape. It's perfectly valid play and if you aren't a shithead you generally won't be camped.
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>>158596401

Nope, you're doing it right, but I'm absolutely sure that survivors will complain that 60 seconds is too much NOED since NOED itself is 2 minutes and has much harsher conditions.
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god I hate the fucking grind, I'm already nearing the rank ceiling for a level 11 Myers
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>>158623256
Yeah, it's not so bad for survivors since you don't really NEED to level multiple survivors up, especially now that we have the Shrine, but you do have to level every killer you want to play and it's hell. It doesn't help that half the killer teachables are shit so you cancer up your leveling process of later killers.
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>>158622485
To be fair, you don't have to do anything special to get camped. Some players are just really new and don't know any better and will camp. Others will camp you because they perceive you've done something wrong/obnoxious, like lead them on a merry chase. Not necessarily even abusing pallet towns or infinites mind you. It doesn't happen often that someone is camped who hasn't wrought that fate upon themselves, but it does happen.
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>>158623951
Perhaps, but the goal of the killer is to kill, if you're on the hook you can't complain what happens. The killer has no obligation to down and hook you 3 separate times - that's a choice he can make if he isn't willing to let the other survivors work on generators while you die.
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>Day 2 post Halloween update
>people STILL stand still between pallets and T-bag in front of Myers
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Lazy fucks can't do anything right.
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>>158624345

How long has that been common practice? Months, now? Old habits die hard. Literally, in this case.
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>>158624345
Is Myers any more dangerous in stage 3 outside of the one-shot potential?
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>>158624482
he's fast az and becomes an olympic vaulter
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>>158624482
Ultra long lunge range
You should check his vaulting speed too
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>>158624482
Faster, goes through windows faster, lunges further ( i think)
You pretty much just want to avoid trying to deal with him when he hits stage three
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Play With Your Food 3 + Agitation 3

Any videos of this? I need to see how fast you can move.
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>>158622485
That last part is not even close to true.
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>killer walks to a generator then walks back to the hook

>CAMPER CAMPER REEEEEEE
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>playing MM with only save the best for last
>Kill three survivors and we're down to one jake, with one hook remaining on the map
>catch him multiple times and each time he runs away to a zone with no hooks left
>I mean literally have him run off my shoulder about 12 times because I knew he'd inevitably find the hatch if I didnt get him to a hook at least once
>gets away inevitably
>post game "haha I win" when his other three allies died
This is why killers all run iron grasp
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>sprint burst
>self-heal
>decisive strike

would you consider using more than 1 of those at the same time scummy?
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>>158626379
Use whatever you want. Personally I find using meme metas boring. Once I level Laurie I'm going to try using all 3 of her perks plus sprint burst, no self-care.
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Still haven't played a single match on the new map, what the fuck. I've played as and against Michael numerous times, once someone even burned the offering to increase the chances of gong to that map.
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>>158626892
I'm not sure how I feel about the new map honestly I can't tell if its balanced or favors one side
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post yfw "mains" of anything in this game

https://www.twitch
.tv/slyyypanda/v/97535771?t=1h46m40s
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>game somehow manages to give me the most useless perks for a killer first before anything useful
Oh good, NOED
oh wait a minute I'm fucking myers
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>>158626427
>Wants to stay away from boring meme perks
>wants to use Decisive Strike
DS is an absolutely awful perk that promotes selfishness on a level worse than self care and acts as not only a fuck you to the killer but also to the very idea of being punished for being a shitter in the first place.
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>>158627354
>ARE YOU MAD MR KILLER
>HUH ARE YOU MAD
>ARE YOU MAD
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>game is now too hard for survivors
>games is also too hard for killers

I think they just need to make it easier on both ends desu.

Also two new parts on a bloodweb is pretty rare, Meg the mechanic coming in hot with adrenaline.
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>>158627530
That's like saying Meg's can't use sprint burst and Claudette's can't use self-care.
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>>158627354
why is that a bad thing? I don't play killer nearly as much as I do survivor.

And yeah, that killer was buttblasted from one pallet, what a tyke.
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>>158627680
Not really. I'm not saying anything about using teachables on the survivor you get them from, I'm just saying that Decisive Strike is a shit perk.
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du du du
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>>158627530
>Decisive Strike 3 plus Sprint Burst.

It's coming soon lads, its going to be the next big meme perk combination. And its going to be glorious.
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>>158627752
You should try to understand the game from both sides, and they're both fun in their own ways. Granted the shitty progression encourages it.
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>literally have only played Shelter Woods or Blood Lodge
stop this
stop this now
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>>158625018
Wish I could test it myself, I only have PWYF 2 and Agitation2. With 3 stacks of PWYF you move like fucking Sanic
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>>158628107
I do understand the game from both sides, but I enjoy playing one more than the other, so I naturally play it more.
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>>158628314
As God intended
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>>158628410
I really, really like this image.
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Why are high rank players always the biggest crybaby scrubs?
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>>158628619
It honestly amazes me that people can play the game using a fucking flowchart of "Get hit > Sprint Away > Self Heal > Go back and get hit again" And actually have enough fun to want to go up the ranks or prestige their characters. It's literally cookie cutter.
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>>158628784
>"Get hit > Sprint Away > Self Heal > Go back and get hit again"
Every fucking time. I'm just glad Michael does a good job at countering that. God it feels so good catching those smug tea-bagging fucks.
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>>158628206
Just be thankful its not asylum
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>>158629053
I should have explained. When I decide I want to play Billy, I get Blood Lodge. When I want to play Micheal, I get shelter woods. If they were reversed I'd be happy.
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How do I unlock this execution?
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>>158629295
Why did his mask get worse with each movie?
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>>158629476
as the movies progress time also progresses. so what was the original mask is now myers grabbing shitty remakes of the original mask, so it goes downhill in quality
carpenter is a fucking genius
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>>158629626
I don't think Carpenter had anything to do with the Halloween movies past the first three.
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>>158629626
>>158629476

I'm pretty sure they physically lost the original mask. Or wait, gave it away to the actor who played Michael.
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>>158629295
You get it on a specific variation of coldwind farm
When you ebony memento mouri all of them the last one will be this one if you do it next to a closet
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>>158616197
That filename
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>>158616197
>slippery meme and leader

Every time - why?
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Any tips on surviving against Myers?
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>>158631139
These webms should help. >>158619519
>>158627924
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>>158627924
>Sloppy pallet loops

ur a fagit dude!
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>>158631139
Cut sight as much as you can with myers
If he catches you off guard while he's in phase I you'll probably get away since he can't really chase at this point
If he's in phase III try to avoid a chase if you can help it, just stay hidden until it blows over
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>>158631139
Hope he never finds you because it's GG if he's at phase 2 and can reliably track you.
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>>158631139

Avoid, avoid, avoid.

He has no map coverage gimmick, like most of the other killers (not counting his mirror addons). That means he has to hoof it everywhere and can only surprise you if he's still running EW1. He just moves fast and hits hard. If you see his white face hovering around out there, put stuff between you and him and don't run around like a fucking idiot leaving tracks everywhere.
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>Report function patch
Killer, if you hit me even once i will report you and you will be banned

t. Angrypig fanboy.
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>>158633007
I expect nothing whatsoever to come of the report function. At most if a hundred people call you a hacker they'll look at the facts and see if you actually are speedhacking around with infinite sprint burst.
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>>158633007

Can't wait for the day that BE come out and say it's not camping if the survivors are literally watching the hook from within 10 meters and they will ban people for reporting this as camping.

Bans all around! Ban the whole fucking playerbase.
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so how does the new "uber prestige" system work? I get a different piece of appeal for each prestige level I have with that char? Do I really have to prestige3 all of my chars using CE of course?
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>>158633375
That seems to be the case.
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>>158629476

Trick or treat
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Why do you run from Myers? He just wants to say hi after all.
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>>158633989
I just had a funny game in which a Laurie saw me get very close to her by a generator. She just slowly creeped forward towards me in a friendly manner as I built up my gauge and then one-shotted her. I hooked her in the nearby basement and left for the other side of the map.

Nobody bothered to save her.
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>>158634216
MICHAELLLLL YOU CAN'T JUST KILL YOUR SISTER MICHAEL
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Hey this is michael I'm looking for my friend jason, have you seen him
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>>158635372
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>>158635372
I tell you he drowned
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>>158635372
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How does Judith's Tombstone work? I always down the first guy.
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whats the lore behind the killers/survivors not being able to truly escape again?
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>>158635810
Entity keeps them there.
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>>158635784
You have to get very close and use a non-lunge attack while in Evil Within III. I don't really see the point of Judith's Tombstone, though. It seems to me that Tombstone Piece would be much better.
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>>158635810
spider sticky web
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>>158635843
yeah but how do they get to these different locations in the first place
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>>158635873
Oh okay Ive been lunging at them.
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>downed next to exit with someone on the hook right outside
>crawl out a bit in hopes of a heal so I can go back in and help since altruism is the one true playstyle
>the other 2 get him off the hook anyways, all running back and I crawl as well
>killer picks me up last second and hooks me
>says I was BMing in chat because I spun to get the attention of the others to heal me up
Can you even be the slightest bit nice in this game without an entire football team of people thinking you're hitler
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>>158635946
I'm pretty sure they wander off, get trapped in the fog and then get transported to these locations from the killers' backstories. I don't think they're even in the real world anymore.
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>>158635946
The entity attempts to imitate the real world but ends up throwing in a bunch of closets and pallets with no real way to leave except through the gates
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>>158636007
>says I was BMing in chat because I spun to get the attention of the others to heal me up
What.
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>>158636094
I was about halfway in that little exit hallway spinning, hoping that one of the survivors staring at the hook would notice that I wasn't leaving, pick me up and so I can help with the save.

Killer thought that was tantamount to teabagging at the edge.
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>>158635372
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>>158636162
The original, unmodified captain kirk mask in the second row is a nice touch.
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>>158636162
One of these images is different then the others, guess right to win 500 dollars.
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>>158636275
God dammit, the more I look at it, the funnier it gets
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Is anyone else having problems getting survivors in your lobby as killer? Been waiting 5 minutes and not a single join, can get into lobbys fine as survivor. Game is not blocked on firewall.
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>>158638007

Everyone is playing MM at the moment since they think he's an overpowered piece of shit.
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>>158638007

>New killer released
>It's a celebrity killer everyone loves
>Gee, I wonder why I can't find any survivors
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>>158638062
>>158638076
Good point, I just wanted to do my billy dailys dammit.
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>play spooky dingdong man
>lobby takes ages to fill
>one claudette finally comes
>after 1 minute 3 other simultaneously join
>get haddonfield
>my obsession is running around breaking hooks, down her and hook
>like the altruistic pieces of shit they are they don't even wait for me to finish the hooking that they're already swarming me
>but they don't know about my unrelenting+SVTBFL
>down all of them
>they instantly DC
>give the other claudette, who was a lvl 20 the hatch
w-wraith op!!!
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Anyone happen to have that Rolf Trapper image? I saw it a couple days ago and didn't find it.
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>>158638969
:o]
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>>158639068
Appreciated
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>>158638007
>>158638062
>>158638076
Not really, no. The game is just simply dead.
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So has any one tested if the addons that speed up the evil meter gain works with tinkerer?

I know it says it doesn't, but that hasn't stopped addons from working with it before.
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>>158639826

>Killers stop playing because they have no incentive
>Whatever killer player base remains get instant lobbies
>Survivors have to wait 5 minutes to an hour to get a lobby

>New killer comes out
>Bunch of survivors try killer
>Survivors get instant lobbies, killers have to wait in line for their turn

I ain't arguing it's not dead, but the playerbase is currently heavily sided towards one mode and it's extremely obvious why
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Is Unrelenting worth using with its buff? Seems like its significantly better now.
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>>158645152
Yes MM can get retarded fast attack speed
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>>158645152
Unrelenting + STBFL is insane. It gives you like 1 sec cooldown on successful attack http://plays.tv/video/58120a77325484c7f3/wtf
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>>158645313
>>158645749
Cool thanks its the only decent perk I have on billy right now just need to get through these retarded wait times.
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>>158633540
that slightly surprised one top right
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>Just got a i7 6700K and a 1070 GTX
>Still get about 50fps as killer
What is this shit
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unhook
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Can't they be a little more creative and stop with the wallhack add-ons/perks?
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>>158646803
>Expecting Québecois scum to know how to optimize a game
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>>158630686

dont have any good ones to go with
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>>158651708
> not taking TINH and resistance to fill out your meme potential
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>>158635372
Please don't disrespect the dead, thanks
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>>158651708

it's time for slippery meat to shine
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Local Myers player gets mad, even though he double pipped, because I was crawling around the map (in attempt to find the hatch) and he was "going to let the survivor live" and he doesn't like when "people are hiding."

I looked up his name out of curiosity and he's both a Diamond League player and Top 32 MLG Halo 3 player, so that explains a lot.

He also called me an idiot for some reason
>Survivors shit talk you for killing them
>Killers shit talk you for hiding

first game of the day boys, wew
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>>158651708
Kindred and We'll Make It, then you can farm altruism points until you're hooked.
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Unhook
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>mfw i want to play MM, but have to fuck my fat girlfriend instead
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>>158651694
I know its poorly optimized but i can get over 100fps on doom max, it makes me wonder what kind of a monster PC you need for 60fps as killer.
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>>158653124
I can get 60+ FPS

i7 4790k @4GHz
32GB RAM
GTX 980
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>>158651906
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>>158651906
>>158653278
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>>158653278
>>158653427
Good ol' dingleberries
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>>158653278
>>158653427
Is he a popular figure in the community? This is my first time meeting him.
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>>158653631
Not really, just some fag that likes to talk shit.
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>>158653986
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reminder to read my amazing fanfictions.
>http://pastebin.com/u/ipwnlocks
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>he didn't even camp hooks, typical proxy stuff

it's happenin, the meta dickwads are already scaring people with bans
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>standing in the exit area causes it to close off
>No more teabagging at the exit
Too bad it's not a survivor buff so it'll never get in
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>>158653278
Jeez even i wouldn't say that to you sloppy >:^)
>Drinking Bleach Meme
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>>158654320
How about i ram my foot up your ass instead?
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>>158654754
Are they seriously going to ban for hook camping?
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>>158655062
yes, they're adding a report function for camping

it was in their weekly twitch stream
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You think the devs anticipated for this game to turn out the way it did? I don't mean successfully, but like, all the trash talking and hyper aggressive gameplay/exploits? And "camping?" (I dunno how they didn't see this coming though)

Whenever I watch making-of videos and developer commentary, it seems like they were more interested in an atmospheric proof-of-concept, than an actual multiplayer game, it's just that the game itself HAS multiplayer, which I guess lines up with the lack of voice coms.

Is this the Melee of "horror" games?
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Not even ashamed of running Decisive strike anymore, meme IG carry to the basement camp is just way more cancer than anything else at the moment.
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>>158655334
Thats pretty fucking awful i don't camp as a killer but its part of the game. So instead of adding some sort of mechanics to discourage camping further they just add a report button. These devs never cease to amaze me how incompetent they are.
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>>158655809
the best part is that there's no moderated human element to handling reports, it's they've outright stated it's going to be purely based on number of reports

I fully expect it to become standard for all 4 survivors to report every killer in every game, ensuring they get banned until there's no killers left and this game finally dies
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>>158655784
If you decisive strike me I'm just going to mori or facecamp you amigo.
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>>158654754

>tfw this guy adds me and tells me that Billy would be banned for proxy camping
>he just wanted to warn him so he wouldn't get banned!
>he admitted himself the Billy was far away from the hooked person and just keeping line of sight occasionally
>it's a bannable offence!

with how small their studio is, they won't have enough people to inspect everyone who gets lots of reports, and those will just pour in on most of the killers
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>>158656241
then you're going to get VAC banned pretty fast ;-)

see >>158655334 >>158656059
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>>158656059
Hey, you forgeting something. Frogs are going to "check their Data" if there is enough reports. But yeah, this is going to be shitty.
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>>158656307
>>158656383
Makes no sense how there gonna ban them at all they dont have VAC and they cant just tell steam to ban people this is just another idle threat there doing
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>>158656570
Eac ban. Different message in steam profile. No ability to play DbD.
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Laurie is cute
CUTE
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>play the game the way the devs intended it to be played
>get banned
>meanwhile tbagging, infinities, and BMing are a-okay
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>>158655784
Why do survivor mains get so mad when Killers try to kill?
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>>158657270
Where in the fucking world does it say "Sit in front of person on the hook just to make the game that much more unfun for them." Like using that logic as soon as the first Gen is popped the gates should be able to be open.
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>>158657270

>killer reports and infiniter
>doesn't get looked at because they don't infinite every game ( other survivors infinite for them )
>somewhere around 2-3 reports per 10 games
>play killer
>hook camp or do anything else that would trigger an individual
>20-30 reports per 10 games since there's 4 survivors who in unison decide to report the killer
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>>158657270
>>158657446
have some faith in the devs
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>>158657361
IG is obnoxious to the fucking core and yet it is needed to deal with sabotage that i get but when you get into a game with zero tool boxs use it to drag a person all the way to the basement and just camp the entrance.. yeah.
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>>158656720
load of horse shit and you know it
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>>158657446
I can't wait for them to ban me. I will finally be free from this awful game.
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>>158658498

it'll be a competition, on who get's to get banned first for playing the game
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>>158657578
>it takes so much skill to do anything resembling an infinite
>wraith isn't underpowered
>blocking a window if they jump it 5 times in 20 seconds is a good idea
>our qa team is scared of playing against michael
I have more faith in getting an empty chamber if I load 5 rounds in my .357.
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http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198185550566/ Avoid this entitled shit head at all costs he lags the game no matter where you are and brags about it afterwards when he catches you trying to vault over a fucking window with seven second delay. The report system can't come fast enough.

Seriously needs to be a shitter list
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>>158658576
What blows my mind is something utterly game breaking like infinites is allowed? Camping a hook just gives the other survivors free reign to repair gens.
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>>158659627
It's because the top DBD streamer abuses them.
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I'd bet money them ""banning"" people is just a ruse, I think they're retarded enough to pull a ""trick"" like that
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So if I find a player to be a notable threat, I can't ensure a kill? I have to let them get off?

I camped some guy last game because twice in a row he body blocked me while I was carrying another survivor to their basement, in which all my hooks in that vicinity were destroyed or gone. Should I just let him keep doing that?

If I catch somebody at the start of my game just breaking hooks, should I let them keep doing that?
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>>158659627

Statistically, if they just did gens, that means 1 person depiped and 3 people pipped that game ( since that's what matters in this game, survivors tell me that all the time ) so even if you're face camped 25% of the time, in the remaining 75% of those games you get a free pip. 3 pips to balance out that 1 depip. But they had to take it steps further... do we even have a video/oddshot/anything to quote the devs saying "hook camping is a legitimate strategy"?

Like, a week or two later after the sheep analogy, the dev stream vod disappeared.
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>>158659982
Yes, stop being a bully.
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>>158521045
>>158521189
>>158521204
>>158521274
>>158521720
>>158522413
>>158522414
>>158523278
>>158523692
>>158523790
>>158523790
>>158524057
>>158526049
>>158527387
LAUREN STRODE NUDE GLITCH STILL IN THE GAME GUYS HOLY FUCKING SHIT

IT'S SO GOD DAMN HOT I'VE GOTTEN JERKED OFF TO IT ALREADY

YEAH NIGGA YEAH YEAH LAUREN STRODE NUDE

I GOT THE KEYS KEYS KEYS KEYS I'VE HAVE A KEYS
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>>158659882
>hungrypig
>top
Only when no one else who breaks 1k viewers is streaming.
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>>158660498
Do any of the other streamers have custom skins? I haven't seen any.
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>>158660664
Not that I know of, pig probably asked the devs to give him one, or they ignored the larger streamers because they play killer.
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Why do the killers who have the most hours seem like the most shittiest players.

>found someone and downed them in the first 30 seconds
>proceed to facecamp while reving chainsaw
>d/c's after 3 gens are popped
>OVER A THOUSAND HOURS

Are they just survivor mains in disguise?
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>>158661420
Probably had a grudge against the guy and then d/ced after depipping him, who knows
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forgot pic
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>>158661420
>proceeds to FACE CAMP
>Amazed why they left
????????????????????????????????????
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>>158661605
Maybe he grinded everything out and doesn't care about points so he plays for fun?
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Can someone tell me how to grab a survivor trying to escape via the hatch?
Just now I tapped M1 on a survivor and the animation of meyers grabbing her played but the survivor model then dissapeared and showed as getting away.
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>>158661420
>>158661605
the goal of the game is to make all the other players as angry as possible. this is his method
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Does anyone else find Myers boring to play as? I think I'm just gonna get his teachables and go back to Billy.
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>>158661878
you have to do it fast enough that the animation completes before they leave, or it doesn't count
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>>158661605
>face camper
>with a 1000 hours
>that also has the two rare foil badges

why do these people exist
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>>158661420

A lot of survivors are playing killer because "MUH OP CHARACTERS" from the myers craze.
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is this any good? it's $14 in the halloween sale
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>>158661878
>>158662284
Do you need to be behind them or will any angle work?
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In my 1000+ hours of playtime I've been face camped twice. I have a hard time believing people when they say they did nothing wrong.
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>>158662540
No.
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>>158662998
he a gud boy he dindu nuffin raciss killer plant that toolbox and infinite on him
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>>158661878

Here's most of my hatch webms, with failed and successful attempts. Hope you can figure it out a bit from them.

https://my.mixtape.moe/xiagvv.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/ioozpa.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/sfcewg.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/dlchft.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/sbzvxs.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/gjnxob.webm
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>>158659990
Twitch automatically deletes past broadcasts after two weeks, but they out them on youtube so you can find it there
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>>158664590
I literally just got that too, what the fuck? Are crashes server based?
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>>158658269
There was a wave of threads about bans, guys were saying they can't play anymore and their profiles had that ban notice. Like this guy http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/350543319568955069/
Maybe true, maybe not.
>>158659990
I saw devs saying "hook camping is a legitimate strategy" myself. They even mentioned that hand signal at some point. Check stream summaries on reddit, they should have every single word, so you don't have to actually watch all the streams. If not, well, how determined are you? And then just throw that shit wherever it's needed. What's the sheep analogy?
Don't give up anon, i believe in you.
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>>158664682
Weird.

Maybe we're soulmates.
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I thought this wouldn't appear in your bloodweb if you had the DLC
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>>158664997
Its not supposed to, big shocker the devs fucked up something so simple.
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>>158664997
Did you expect logic here?
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>>158662998
I've never been face camped because I play killer.
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>>158664682
>server
It's a p2p game, bruv
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I guess I should just go back to waiting in killer lobbies. This is fucking stupid.
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>>158667749
thats what you get for being jewish
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how the fuck do people get to rank 1 as Survivor?

Once I hit rank 12 they upped the wins to five, i'll either win one and lose two games in a row and go back to 13/beginning of 12.
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>>158667425
I think he means Steam servers. Could be real.
>>158667749
How did this happen?
>>158668452
There's not much to say here. Get better, or forget about your team and concentrate on getting points.
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>>158668452
use infinites
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>>158668452
Steam Achievement Manager: edit statistics. Camper Skulls is survivor rank, measured by absolute number of pips.
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>>158668452

They've gimped survivors a bit with this patch, but if you focus on your point gain rather than altruism, you should still be able to pull it off. You're asking for a hooking if you repair gens with no jukable spots nearby.
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>>158667915
There is literally nothing wrong with being Jewish

>>158668598
It's been completely random every game since the update.
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So anybody else just feel a sigh of relief when they get into a normal game with Trapper or Wraith, or is it just me
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>>158669478

yeah, I don't like jumpscares so screw MM EW1
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Do you guys even try when the game starts and it's three survivors?

I just start breaking hooks until Myers pulls me off, idc I'll let him watch me do it too.
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>>158670306

always
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>doesn't even try to help is teammates when I gave him every opportunity to unhook
>doesn't use his last teammate's death as a means to open one of the two gates
>trap the hatch, and he fucking blunders into my trap while I'm out patrolling
>pick him up and he outskills me with decisive strike right at the hatch
>hatch grab him anyway because of Enduring 3
>hook him
>his teammates berate him in post-game for being a cowardly prick

Based retard Laurie
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What should I get with my shards for this weekly shrine?

Or should I save them?
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>Meg with the meta build and a toolbox
>Hear her messing with a hook so i down her ass and camp her
>Another Meg and a Dwight are left
>Down the second meg and hook her in the basement
>Heard Dwight in the basement so i knew he was in a closet
>They are all dead
>You have a group invite "killers that camp for no reason"
>Haha salty Me-
>It's from the Dwight
>This is his picture
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>>158673893
>Dwights are furries

It all makes sense now
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>>158673876

what do you like to play? do you have the dlc?
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>>158673893

>tfw was never invited to any meme group
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>>158674098
I play both survivor and killer, i'm struggling with survivor in the current Myers meta though.

I don't have the DLC
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>>158674663

the obsession perk then, anything else you can farm for, but you won't see that one in months again

if you don't feel like getting it for whatever reason, I'd say enduring (decisive strike meta incoming) > agitation > stridor
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>>158673876
>>158674663
>>158673876
Depends on what you play as most.

Do you have any of the killers leveled up much that you're close to the teachables? Also you can only store 1k shards.

Laurie's perks are only good if you have all of them, whereas I'd rank the killer perks in the Shrine as Stridor > Agitation > Enduring, although Enduring is actually really good. I'd put it on par or just under with Agitation.

So of those perks, I'd say you should take Agitation if you want to get the most bang for your buck. Unless of course you planned to sink points into Trapper regardless. Reason I say Agitation is because Stridor and Enduring are both gained at level 30 from Nurse and Billy whereas Agitation is gained at level 40. More work to earn that teachable compared to the others.
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>>158674456
How are people this blind
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>>158675772
>insidious
Hope you're joking
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>>158676221
Yes i saw that i thought it just reduced your terror radius to zero though?
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>>158655414

Probably not. All of their play testing was internal and among friends.
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>>158676520
It's pretty much the wraith skill, except you can break it instantly by moving and there's no sound indicator
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Has the game been crashing a lot for anybody else lately?

I've had two so far today.
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>>158676893
>testing
Ever seen streamers and their buddies try new shit after big update? "Can i do this? - Yeah, lets try it!" They do it with basic logic, no special testing sorcery.
Frogs didn't seem to do even that.
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>>158677043
I've seen a lot of survivors disconnecting in my games and I assume they're crashing. I've had some performance hiccups too
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>>158668452

Repair and escape. Don't do anything extra. Don't be altruistic. Bring a health pack with instant heal add ons for yourself. Activate at least 2 generators and start looking for the hatch as an alternative exit plan if things go sour.

The only time you should be altruistic is if the gates are open and if you have No One Left Behind 3 along with your health kit and add on still equipped. If you pull it off, you'll get way more points saving a guy than just escaping on your own.
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>>158668452
>>158677587
Also, read the hatch guides. They can help, even if they're outdated.
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>>158677308

Well yeah, because they're fucking stupid and playing the game the way they designed it rather than breaking it.
>>
>Fake that i use the EW1 mirror addon
>Survivors run like chickens without heads into me when i appear literally next to them
>Sac 2 of them
>Hit the other 2 but they dont know i can actually go in EW2 so they heal each other while staying out of EW1 range
>Pop into EW2 when i am pretty close to them
>Claudette runs straight into the basement out of fear when i switch to EW2
>Last one tried to get away from me but it was to late
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>>158678695
>tfw to intelligent to read this
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is this game fun? ive heard that a recent patch made it horribly imbalanced for one side?
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Not gonna bother putting on my Billy now.
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>>158679624

Just how much do you hate yourself?

If you hate yourself a lot, it's very fun. Incredibly enjoyable.

Right now, the only true OP element is Michael Myers.
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>>158679624
I got it on sale for 18 bucks or some such and have 650 hours logged. It can tend to be grindy but it's fun, and it's a fucking steal for 14 dollars on Steam right now. I'd get it. Try it for 2 hours and if you don't like it, get your 14 back
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>>158679624

Wish it would require more skill with the M1 hits, it is almost possible to outjuke/dodge hits by high ranked killers, since auto-aim assists anything you try.
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>>158679949
But Decisive strike is perfectly balanced

t.Cuck Richards.
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>>158679992
>>158680017
i dont hate myself and i love the grind. im just conflicted because so many steam reviews have like 200+ logged hours, yet are not recommending it beacuse of said imbalances and latency issues
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>>158680239

The killers are host of games, but whenever you join a lobby and type anything in the chat, you can see if there's any delay in it showing up. So in terms of lag, you can evade 90% of laggy games. Balance goes both ways, devs do look survivor biased though. But for the time I've put into the game, it was worth it's price.
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Well that's interesting
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>DWIGHT KEEPS OUTRUNNING ME
>FINDS THE HATCH
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>>158680239

Probably crying survivorbabies because they got moried by Mike.
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>>158680702
>>158680624
alright ill give it a shot. is the dlc required right now? will i not be able to play with other players who have the dlc?
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>>158680991

dlc only locks characters, you're fine without it, isn't p2w either ( kind of )
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>>158680991

It's not required. You can still play against others with the DLC. I've fought nothing but Michaels and I haven't bought the DLC.
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>>158680991
DLC isn't required unless you want to play as Michael Myers or Laurie Strode. You can still play on the new map, against the new killer/survivor, and there's a way you can test run Michael out ingame but you have to get the item on a Bloodweb.
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>>158680239
Player since the beta here. Overall, the game is fun, no doubt about it. But eventually, you WILL get angry. You WILL get annoyed. There is somethings that will happen that will leave a bad taste in your mouth and you'll want to not play for a bit, (getting facecamped by a new killer, or getting bm'd by "pro" survivors). But treading through all the shit the game might offer, more likely than not you'll still have fun. I know I am, since I'm still playing this shitty game and still posting on this board.

Overall, I'd still recommend it. Just be wary that you'll probably have a bunch of shit times; be it the balance, the "Oh my god, the wiggle bar was totally full", or the killer guessing perfectly which locker you're hiding in. Everyone has.
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>>158681123
>>158681168
>>158681193
>>158681350
thanks for all the help. seems like a pretty active community too? im not really that concerned with balance/dying to better players as long as its not super super bad and that doesnt seem to be the case
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tfw letting the obsession live because its what michael would do
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>>158681641

it's a bit active after the dlc, it was pretty stale and boring before it with 20-30 min queue's for survivors because killers were cucked out of kill potential, so we had to fake-keep the thread alive on some days
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>>158682109
if you're gonna go that then swing at him with miss cause Micheal misses his obsession a lot
>>
you guys wanna vape in my clown car
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>>158682789
honk honk
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>>158683656
:o]
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>>158651708
Same man, same. I would use we'll make it and No one left behind if I had em, it's the easiest way to get a decent amount of points while trying to never be seen. Although I should just be playing MM right now because you put in 1/10 of the effort and get 2 to 2.5x the points of survivor games consistently.
>>
>am near Jake as he's locker-grabbed super early on and taken to the basement
>sneak in after Trapper traps his hook and leaves
>Meg sprints into the basement, Spine Chill lights up, fucking christ
>Meg sprints into the goddamn trap on the back hook
>fucking cock sucker
>untrap him, unhook Jake because fuck you those are my points
>second Meg comes sprinting in and Spine Chill is still lit Jesus Christ
>Jake and I hop out of the shack and I heal him up because no terror radius yet still lit up
>other Meg heals retard Meg who was trapped and we all somehow walk away
>Jake and I repair 4 generators away from the basement and escape while the other two Megs get fucked, caught, and slapped on basement hooks
>they bitch and moan in post-game, calling us faggots for not booking it across the map to unhook them in the fucking basement against a Trapper
>both Megs with full meme perks
>won't listen to me trying to reason with them as to why we couldn't come help and that if nobody had done the generators like we did, nobody would have escaped
>nope I'm a selfish asshole faggot

well then
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Survivor mains still want that Billy nerf
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tittydemon in DBD when?
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>do generator
>injured mate walk up to me
>try to heal him
>no heal prompt
>other teammate comes
>we 2 man huddle in a corner
>the other guy also seems unable to heal
>injured guy just stares at us
>judging us silently
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>>158685062
medusa killer when?
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>>158684716
Oh and this was on Azarov's Resting Place.
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Faggot abusing infinites in haddonfield and then he acts cocky in chat, sack of shit i hope he gets raped.
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Who else has turned to Survivorbull masterrace? Sick of being cucked by long wait times as a killercuck.
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>>158686456
you should of taken a screenshot of the guys name or something
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>>158687518
Just had a match against 4 meta perk survivors and was thinking of maybe switching but then i saw they had a streamer and i just enjoy killing them a little to much even if i had to let all the others go.
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>>158687758
His name was 13lack13ox
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>>158688143
ill make sure to facecamp him if i see him friend
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This game went to shit pretty quick. I was the obsession and he got at most one token from me the whole game, and it was at the end. People getting found and just feeding him EW3 and getting wrecked (and I got caught trying to save someone thanks to another survivor sprinting up to the hook with the killer behind him) Ended up being the last one alive. Injured from the hook, search three chests, all toolboxes (this is why sabo isn't picked as often yet hooks still get taken out like candy) I found a medkit under a hook but the charges on it only got me to like 90-95% healed.

I was working on gens, got 2 of the 3 needed 99'd. But was found in the basement due to me crying. In a last ditch effort I dropped my toolbox and started creeping towards the exit. He downed me, carried me back to my box and swung at it and let me struggle off, I picked it up then he downed me again and carried me off to the hatch. What a swell guy
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three crashes in one day, what the fuck

I was stomping as Hillbilly too...Is anybody else crashing more often than usual?
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>>158689060
I crashed once back when I first bought the game. I think the third day. Haven't crashed since. :/
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>>158689060
Was it after someone tried to drop a pallet?
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>>158689449
No I was just revving the chainsaw.
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Has there been any indication as to when this uber prestige stuff is dropping, and how long we have to get to prestige 3?
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>>158690481
Just fire up that CE
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>>158690613
H o l y s h i t

This game is a horrible grind even when you use a fucking cheat engine. I've spent HOURS going through the webs and I have every survivor to 40 with meg having every perk.

I got the Trapper to prestige 1 and wraith to 40 legit.
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>>158691589
>tfw got billy and trapper to p3 legit

end me
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New to killer here. How do you deal with players that make you tilt hard? I'm talking the ones that BM you hard and know they're fucking with you.

How do you deal?
How do you punish?
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>>158692528

Buy DLC
Pick Mike
Stalk to EW3 while they teabag
Kill
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>>158692528
unplug internet, enjoy disconnect bonus
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>>158692528

chase down, hook, beat them up on the hook for everyone to hear their screams

a higher tech of tilting them back is proxy camping and the moment they get unhooked, hit them down to the ground and instahook again
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>>158692528
The best way to punish is one of two ways:
Make them bleed out
or
Put them on a hook and facecamp

Both ways will make the other survivors probably escape, but if your goal is to make that cunt pay, then those are your options.

To catch jewey survivors is a different story; if they are infiniting, then pull out your ethernet cable for a split second and plug it back in. It'll either d/c them and give you points, or make him lag enough for you to catch him.
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>>158692528
Face camp and use a mori if you play with them again. You keep doing this until they dodge your lobbies.
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Do you think the devs will ever fix the common perk bug? Or at least I hope it is a bug.
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So I got The Shape to level 15 so I can use two perks and now I'm just farming points for my Nea. Used the last outside hook on the third guy this game and had to haul the obsession across the map with four downs to get her to the basement, thank the entity the hatch wasn't on the way. I was originally just gonna let her bleed out but fuck that shit takes too long plus I got a bunch more points for it.
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>>158691589
Turn speed hacks on dummy
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>>158692942
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>>158661420

Facecamp and DC is THE strategy to fuck over people when you don't care about your own ranking
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Yo there has to be a fucking problem here. Been playing as survivor sicne myers came out, and my first game as killer in about 4 days, and as soon as I hit someone, my game crashes. What the fuck. This is the first time it has crashed on me mid game, there is something going on man
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I'm not the only person who sees this every time they look at The Shape's power right?
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>>158656383
remember how the dumb poutines said their data showed there was a perfect killer:player balance

then remember how when they released a new killer the matchmaking flipped to favor survivor queues overnight

pepperidge farms remembers.
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>>158702567
Remember how the dev that lurks in bahroo's stream asked earlier today if he should nerf killers to make the queues better for him?
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Alright i've had it with this autistic grinding. How do I cheat blood points?
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>play as 'improved' wraith
>hook someone in the basement
>after 5 seconds, he unhooks himself
>gladly block his way mid-stairs
>smack and hook him again
>goes to end-game chat and tells me I have no respect for the 5%

Do survivors really need this kind of entitlement, I mean holy shit killing is my purpose. It can't be helped.
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>>158656059
I'll report every Myers and Trapper player until they are nerfed. People who play those characters don't deserve respect.
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>>158703270
steam or leddit?
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>>158703229
It's some shitty twitch meme. Ignore the little faggots.
>>
>>158703334
trapper or myers?
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>>158703393
F13 or Last Year?
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>>158703393
It was a legitimate post then? I didn't realize we had people this assblasted over any killers here.
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>>158703362
So that's why I'm unaware of this faggotry. They even accused me of camping for that, sadly my wraith does not teleport across the map upon hooking someone.
>>
>Nurse is so shit they didn't even bother giving her a Halloween skin
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>>158704372
What happened with her?
>>
>>158704448
They nerfed her into the ground over a month ago and have pretty much forgotten about her. She's by far the least popular killer now.
>>
>>158704372

Well her whole face is covered and you can't see her eyes, so what's the point?
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I really don't know what to do with these shards. That Laurie perk seems like shit.
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>>158705383
It's meant to be combined with her other perk. On its own it would be worthless.
>>
>>158704948
But I mean what specifically makes her so terrible?
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>>158705890
They further reduced her movement speed, removed one of her base blinks and nerfed her addons and added more worthless ones.
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>>158705383

Yeah pretty shitty for people who played a while, hype up for UBERPRESTIGE. I would keep my BP at 400k+ at all times to be prepared for some info they share.
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>>158705445
They're both kinda worthless if you aren't the obsession.
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>>158706187
They increase the chance of you being the obsession, and they changed it a few days ago so you still get some benefit out of them if you aren't.
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>>158705167
They could have given her a different skin. Maybe a witches hat. I guess it really doesn't matter since no one would see it anyway.
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31:10 , the goat analogy ( sheep~... weh )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kH5fXWie04

>>158664685
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>>158708483

19:25 for hook camping stance, never 4 get

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynIuVLF9kws
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new pepperoni
>>158710657
>>158710657
>>158710657
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>>158704948
I'm kind of excited to run blinkless nurse with Play With Your Food, Unrelenting, Save The Best For Last, and a tracking perk of some kind, probably Whispers when they buff it.
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