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>[Halloween Comeback! Mega Huge Pumpkin Village 10/19-11/2]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20161019.php
- 4* welfare Saber Liz
- New challenge quests

-Event Shop CEs
>Brave Hero Eli-chan's Quest
Buster +10% & NP Damage +20%
>Wizard & Priest
NP Damage +15% & HP Recovery +10%
>Mata Hari's Tavern
Quick/Arts/Buster +2% & Crit Damage +5%

-Gatcha only CEs
>Dangerous Beast
Quick +15% & Stars +3 every turn
>Witch of the Moonlit Night
Arts +10% & NP Gain +5%
>Count Romani Archaman's Hospitality
NP Gain +5% & Defense +3%

-Halloween 2016 gacha:
-5* Assassin Cleopatra
-4* Lancer Vlad

>News and Reminders
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- New vers - emulators, rooted androids, jailbroken iPhones&androids with developer options on are prevented from launching game
- Mashu's voice actress has been replaced with Rie Takahashi as Risa Taneda remains on hiatus to recover from illness. Her other roles remain unchanged
- Class dailies have been updated to include new material drops
>New bond CEs:
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20161005
-Rare Prisms have been added to Da Vinci's Shop (Gained from using 4* or 5* servants as Reinforcement materials or burning, Welfare servants excluded)
-Rare Prisms are used to purchase previous event items
-Next stream 2/11/2016

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/cJ9J0t45

>FL Spreadsheet
Add yourself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCq3eZgh3zlUtZ3G6Y-zzv1kaXt4GHuWVBRlV__V3Q3rC2Pg/viewform
View list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FSN1kmzso2itgjWzaGfysZ5WhEjiL5EcyjGr4k6DffA

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info

>Alternate servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html

>CMs
http://www.mediafire.com/download/960gn6g6w2p0l8q/FGO+Material+I.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wj405jjjc9ly94e/FGO+Material+II.zip
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Cleofags on suicide watch.
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Tamamo!
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I love Nero!
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Best boy.
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Xth for best archer
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Aaaaaand we're back.
Have a witch to celebrate.
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>>158512794
/vp/ disagrees
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Best area to farm for Assassin shit?
Is there a guide for rewards yet The event is almost over.
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>>158512737
You mean Shutenfags since they thought Cleo was worse.
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Who /reddit/ here?
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Fucking her silly and knocking her up.
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Don't think I didn't saw how you fucked up Onifag

>>158512686
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>>158512737
>second best 5* assassin
Feels alright.
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>>158512968
Fucking her silly, knocking her out, and then dumping the body in a ditch!
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>>158512659

>reddit pastebin
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>>158512812
Put some clothes on Nero there are guests here.
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King of all Kings.
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LIZ THREAD
Fuck off retards
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>>158512737
8.0 isn't that bad a rating.
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NP interlewd when?
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>>158513130
Nah.
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Xth for Seibah
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Never skipped arm day
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>>158512659
Should i?
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>>158513306
Wheres that picture from? Official?
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Me: "About Enkidu's stats, he has 'Transfiguration,' so I wanted to set his point total..."
Nasu: "Hmm. He is Enkidu, and he's A rank, so all As."
Me: "All As!? But isn't that even higher than Berserker in the 5th!? Everyone's going to say, 'Heroic Spirit favoritism! He's a Mary Sue!' (A general term for 'Here's my ultimate OC who's way stronger and more popular and luckier than all the characters in the original work! Yahoo!'-type characters in fan works, etc.)"
Nasu: "Don't let it get to you."
Me: "But, I mean, all As is even higher than Karna."
Nasu: "Don't let it get to you."
Me: "To be honest, it's so high that even I think his stats are too exaggerated..."
Nasu: "I said, don't let it get to you!"
Me: "Eep!"
Nasu: "If you think about it the other way, it's Nemes*s... All As is his base, and if he raises his strength to A+, another stat goes down two ranks..."
Me: "What cool-headed and precise worldbuilding...!"
Nasu: "And if... (etc., etc.)"
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real thread here my friends
>>158512686
>>158512686
>>158512686
>>158512686
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>american threads.
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>>158512737

>cleofags said that she was good but wasn't better than Jack
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>>158512737
that's pretty surprising. Hopefully she'll get an NP interlude to fix that
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>>158513412
Go to hell, onishitter.
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>accidentally made a 10 quartz roll instead of a 10 FP roll

I got fuck all too, end me now

>>158513159
Praise it, brother.
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>>158512737
>Jeanne is top

Oh really? I always thought she was eh

How is this evaluated anyway?
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>>158513364
I'd wait until Nov 2 for the livestream info. You'll still have time to roll before the event ends.
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>>158513462
Have any limited servants gotten NP interludes?
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>>158513515
Ask reddit.
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>>158513203
I'd rather go trick or treating with these guys.
>>158513402
Front page of google images.
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>>158513584
Who is he?
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>>158513412
oh this guys is right, he made it earlier
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>>158513515
Jeanne Alter is on top. Vanilla Jeanne is lower.
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>>158513563
Scat, Jack, Gil, and Mystery X off the top of my head.
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>>158513515

How are you liking your first week here?
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I wish I was dead.
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Cute female master posters!
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>>158513619
Well I love Hassans.
You and them could join me and Nero if you want. More the merrier. Halloween is the best. Lets grab Liz too along the way.
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>>158513713
Ahh, that makes sense.
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>>158513791
>Jack
>limited
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>>158513791
Jack isn't limited but I see your point

really wish DW would make more NP interludes in general
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>>158513547
>stream

Need info about this, i thought that was until december.
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>>158513563
Kintoki, Gil, Scathach, and maybe more I can't think of right now.
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>>158513870
>>158513921
I have no idea why I said Jack. Maybe I'm still salty how much better she is compared to Cleo
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What does more damage? Triple Burst or chain combo with free attack?
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>>158513364
drop 6 tickets for lewd mashu.
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>>158514118
See >>158513584
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>>158513816
I want to gently and lovingly cause physical injury to Gudako.
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>>158513810
why
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>>158514118
>>158513515
I got you covered

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/59j6gy/hella_hella_help_thread/
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>>158513968

Maybe you should read the fucking OP.
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Fellow refundfags, how long do you wait between refunds? How high do you buy?

I'm thinking 40 bucks every three months
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>>158514047
Jack is pretty much one of the best units of the game
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>>158513921
I feel like more Silvers and Bronzes should get their NP interludes because they're only saving grace is their easier NP5.

Like Cu Caster hits for like <20k per target with NP5 Wickerman
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>>158513810
わたしもです
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I want to hold pinkies with my waifu!
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>>158514203
Because.
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>>158512737
>same rank as Drake
Pretty good I'd say
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>>158514374
A month between 140 pack purchases because I think google is getting onto me.
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Sir Lucius "Gawainbane" Tiberius, Emperor of Swords, when?
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>>158514118
Depends.
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>>158513810
Me too anon
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>>158514702
That short? Hmm

I think I'll try out 40 once a month then
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One day we may have actual world leaders as servants, wonder what their NPs would be
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When will she become non-limited?
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>>158514897
Hopefully never. We don't need more trash clogging the gacha pool.
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>>158514730
>"you are craving for trouble!"

I don't know why but that killed me, ye old banter
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>>158514374
About 2 140 packs every month and a half
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>>158514730
>slashed through men
>middle of that mighty man
>work for your weapon
>whipped out a long sword
>so hotly aroused
>his breast gored with a hard blade, broad at the hilt

This is the most erotic shit I've read all week.
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>>158513836
Why not? Sound fun. I know a witch who could join.
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>>158515330
Bullshit
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>>158515439
Sounds good to me.
Halloween party at this point.
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>>158515459
Cause?
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>>158514730
Gawain gets a better showing against Lucius in the Historia Regum Britanniae. Exemplified in the excerpt below, where Gawain is referred to as Walgan.

>But Walgan, whose valour was never to be foiled, endeavoured to gain access to Lucius himself; that he might encounter him, and with this view beat down and killed all that stood in his way. And Hoel, not inferior to him, did no less service in another part, by spiriting up his men, and giving and receiving blows among the enemy with the same undaunted courage. It was hard to determine, which of them was the stoutest soldier.

>But Walgan, by forcing his way through the enemy's troops, as we said before, found at last (what he had wished for) access to the general, and immediately encountered him. Lucius, being then in the flower of his youth, and a person of great courage and vigour, desired nothing more than to engage with such a one as might put his strength to its full trial. Putting himself, therefore, into a posture of defence, he received Walgan with joy, and was not a little proud to try his courage with one of whom he had heard such great things. The fight continued between them a long time, with great force of blows, and no less dexterity in warding them off, each being resolved upon the other's destruction. During this sharp conflict between them, the Romans, on a sudden, recovering their courage, made an assault upon the Armoricans, and having relieved their general, repulsed Hoel and Walgan, with their troops, till they found themselves unawares met by Arthur and the forces under him.

Basically, Gawain's men were becoming encircled, so he cut a path through the Romans to find Lucius, and the two traded blows evenly until the Romans rallied and Gawain and his comrades were pushed back again. In the Alliterative Morte Arthur he instead gets his ass handed to him by Lucius.
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If your waifu magically grows a futa cock, would you suck it?
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>>158516103
Hell yes. I love dicks.
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>>158516103
No.
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>>158516103
Yes.
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>>158516103
Maybe
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>>158516103
I'd deepthroat it until her balls are dry tbph
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>>158516103
I don't have a waifu/husbando but yes.
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>>158516141
Please suck my dick.
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>>158516103
Sure why not
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>>158515813
There's no way they'd let you do it that much
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>>158516302
Clean it first. Dick cheese is a no-no.
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>>158516103
Stop stealing my questions I ask the brain damage retard.
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Is there anybody still doing this event or are you fags just grinding bags with natural AP?
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>>158516540
Trying to max my Himukai Liz CE
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>>158516540
I cleared out the shop and still have no Liz CE, so yeah, I'm still doing it.
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>>158516540
Split between Grinding EXP now that I've gotten the Liz copies and the hearts I needed to ascend Red Man and Retard Cat, and trying to get the last 2 hearts I need to ascend Saber Alter.
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>>158516540
Still trying to get the Liz CE. There's nothing I particularly need left in the shop
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>>158516385
I only purchase on a gmail account once to make sure its a guarantee refund. After that I ditch it and make new accounts and add to my phone. Result of Gmail accounts I made that becoming ready around the same time.
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>>158516540
I got everything I needed/wanted. Now I'm using natural AP on the QP daily because I'm that desperate for QP.
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>>158516926
Do you use the same paypal account/card on all those accounts? I'm getting nervous that they may shut me down but I see no other way to do it.
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>>158516926
Do you put in your real name for each account or various fake names?
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>>158516540
I have been way too busy with work and other things, so now is the best time for me to grind the event shop. Just hoping an Eli-chan drops eventually.
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Whats a good CE for tiddy Alter?
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/feg/ a cute
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>>158516540
Prism farming actually. I got everything I need from the shop and I want to get the fous and stock up for the restock next week.

That being said, this event is actually really good for farming mats and cookies with the shop CEs if you care about that
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>>158514897
When will she get an NP interlude? I want to feel less bad about using her instead of Shishou.
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>>158515439
>he's friends with brain treatment nerofag
Kill yourself and stop posting Medea you piece of shit
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>>158517126
tiddy Seibah is better
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>>158514730
>Florent, finest of swords
Confirmed here. Florent > all other swords.
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>>158516385
Not him, but I've done that amount twice, once during Scathach's last rateup and once during the Summer Event.

I think something has changed lately because they rejected my refund through the automated form during Scathach's so I had to call them. Didn't even try the form during summer.

Obviously this was all on different accounts.
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>>158517528
>Confirmed
Not in Fate.
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>>158517126
Best Arturia.
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>>158517402
Dont have her.
I prefer Alter.
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>>158516926
>140 pack
>120$

Wait what. Don't those cost somewhere between 80 and 90 freedombucks depending on where the Yen is at?
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>>158517740
One day I'll get her
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>>158517397
Just trying to show some friendliness to even a dumb empress.
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>>158517663
Agreed.

>>158517809
Just believe.
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>>158517091
Fake Names. I don't live in the states but I put my location in the States in anyway
>>158517053
The post offices in my country sell these "Prezzy Cards" which are visa cards you can put a certain amount of money on for online use.
>>158517796
I live in NZ so the currency being displayed is in NZD.
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>>158517895
s-source?
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>>158517959
Oh shit you can use VISA gift cards for this, then just refund as much as possible, once they decline it move on to the next card with no issue?
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>>158518005
Sadly Im too dumb to know myself anon,
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>>158518214
oh, ok
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>>158512737
Post the 4* list.
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>>158518259
Sorry.
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>>158518073
Basically but I'll probably get a new card first as due to taxes I lose about $9-11 NZD per individual purchase. Cause I only put on about $300 NZD each time I can only use the card about 3 - 4 times before I can't purchase two patches anymore.
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>>158518419
no problem.
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>>158518005
The one where Gudako fucks a horse.
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I want to be Lily's violently and emotionally abusive boyfriend.
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>>158518451
>I can only use the card about 3 - 4 times before I can't purchase two patches anymore.
Patches? What
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>>158518471
Understood
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>>158518653
I can only assume he meant batches
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>>158518642
delete this.
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>>158518653
Yeah my bad meant batches.
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>>158518642
Will she evolve into a Carmillia?
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>>158518270
I'm on my phone right now, best I can do is link it.

http://appmedia.jp/fategrandorder/93558
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>>158518073
Oh yeah forgot to mention these a fee of about $7.00 NZD when you buy a new card.
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>>158519036
>OOC garbage
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Now that I think about it, are there any true pure virgins servants in fate? The only one I can think of that would qualify is Atlanta, but her legend says otherwise...
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>>158519273
Telsa was actually a virgin
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>>158519273
Artemis.
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>>158519273

Probably Serenity.
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I can't help but love Liz.
What do I do?
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>want to grind
>but don't want to use my 260+ golden apples
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>>158519273
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>>158519585
Why have em if you're not gonna use em
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>>158519273
Martha
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>>158519273
Martha, jeanne and andersen.
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>>158519273
Mashu/Galahad, Martha, Nursery Rhyme, Sanzou and Jack
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>>158519574
lucid dream is the path to happiness.
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>>158519273
Nero.
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>>158518005
>>158518214
I've managed to find and expunged gallery on ex, but it's Chinese

https://exhentai.org/g/949458/5e47a8669e/
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>>158519273
Jekyll
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>>158519803

>Nero
>Pure

She's a pure slut.
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>>158519803
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>>158519778
I can't into lucid dreaming. It sucks.
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>>158519834
thank you!
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>>158519273
Tesla
Andersen
Liz(younger)
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>>158519703
I'm possessive and they drop regardless of whether I want them or not.
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The second servant in your first party page has just proposed to you and you are now yo introduce them to your parents

How does this pan out for you
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>>158519834
>tfw stuck with phone only

>>158519860
Says you.

>>158519932
Rim is a harpy.
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>>158513364
Fug
1/7
Got yorokobe'd
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>>158520082
>Liz(younger)
Lolicon!
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>>158520118
Just change the URL you pleb
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/949458/5e47a8669e/
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>>158520135
I believe in ya.
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>>158520110
>Saberlot
Uh, he's okay looking.
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>>158520135
2/7
Qt doctor
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>>158519834
>Tituria Alter starts grinding on Saber's face
Now I'm hard.
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>>158520237
>Spoonfeeding the braindead retard
As expected of a LancerAlterposter. Kill yourself.
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>>158519572
>Semendemon Hassan.
But her Job was to seduce her targets.
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>>158520237
>spoonfeeding literal retards
You're the only pleb here, you fucking cancer.
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>>158520237

>spoonfeeding a retard
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>>158520302
Spicy
3/7
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>>158520110
Hopefully they buy the explanation that she's an ageless amalgamation of the regrets of the unborn given shape who has the mental capacity to give consent. If they don't I'm in a lot of trouble in many ways.
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>>158520351

Sure, but they couldn't touch her.

I suppose he could have fucked someone before getting her poisonous skins, but i don't think there's any evidence to support this.
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>>158520314
>taigafag confirmed for cheating scum
Well would you look at that. What a cuck.
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>>158520498
Want to suck those tats
4/7
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>>158520110

>Saber

Can't i marry her son instead?
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>>158520336
>>158520382
>>158520434
I think you guys should return to reddit.
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Just look at this body, who could possibly be attracted to this?
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>>158520656
Nice~~~
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>>158520602
There's a Taigafag? I thought that was just a shitposter.
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>>158520667

>spoonfeeds an avatarfag
>calls others reddit

Nice try, Reddit.
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>>158520749
>who could possibly be attracted to this?
Me. That image makes me solid.
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>>158520749
I'd put my dick in that in a heartbeat.
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>>158520749
whoever likes young boys.
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>>158520825
>calls everyone else retard
>calls other reddit
Nice try reddit
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>>158520773
Welp!!!
6/7
Qt squirrel
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>>158520749
Me.
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>>158520815
>There's a Taigafag?
There are a few of us here.
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>tfw she deleted me during the last emu purge
Still hurts. She was a massive whale. Used her NP5 Scat all the time.
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You guys still love Illya right? You didn't forget about her just because her event is over, did you?
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>>158520924
Don't show this to the one fag who's wishes he had the Witch Da vinci CE.
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>>158520924
Shit roll/10

Jk I'm moist.
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>>158520884

>he doesn't know about the retarded nerofag

You're not fooling anyone, reddit.
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>>158520974
>not one, but multiple beastfags
Degenerates, the lot of you.
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>>158521080
>He doesn't know his baits aren't working

You're not fooling anyone, reddit. Why don't you go back there talk about transexuality and social justice?
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>>158521069
Welp, after all i couldn't get cleo, cya in the next gacha.
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>>158520749
Me. I love for who she is though and not just her looks.

>>158520110
I don't know how to explain the claws, horns and tail.
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>>158519273
>Atalanta
Okita, Jannu, Martha.

Pretty much only those who died very young or were pure saints.

>>158519639
Mordred has two sons in some versions.
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>>158521260
Didn't the Nasu blog mention that Atalanta turned into a lion before she could do the dirty in the temple?
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>>158521032
I still love Illya. I don't love that Illya, though.
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>>158521260
That wouldnt count.
Nasu didnt give Mordred children you dumbfuck.
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>>158521342
Didnt Nasu mention Caster's master in stay night was a fatso without any skill whatsoever and no swag?

Yet, in the UBW anime he was an indian with a bunch of bitches
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>>158521032
Yeah. whenever I listen to some monobeno porn audio, I imagine it's Illya.
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>>158521427
The anime isn't really a legitimate source for ret-cons. least you think Gae bolg is now a laser...
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>>158521342
Yes.
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>>158521032
I like Ilya, not the shit ooc character you posted.
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>>158521478
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>>158521427
>Didnt Nasu mention Caster's master in stay night was a fatso without any skill whatsoever and no swag?
First time I see this. Do you have a citation for that ?
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>>158517053
I've done it too much and now I can't get any purchases get through except for a select few accounts.
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>>158521383
>Nasu didnt give Mordred children you dumbfuck.
Grey has to come from somewhere.
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>>158521571
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>>158521629
I think it was on the wikia or somethign
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>>158521342
That would be incredibly stupid if it was true considering the only reason they were turned into lions was similar to that of why Medusa was turned into a gorgon. The god chose lions because it was believed lions could only mate with other species, so it was a curse to force them to be separated for eternity.

>>158521383
He never really denied it either, it's not an important part of her story unlike some others so it could be handwaved, but magical dicks were confirmed to exist since Mordred exists, so who knows.
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>>158521571
As cool as some of the in-combat animations for this is, i don't think Karna can create spears to shoot GoB style or Nero projecting beams from her swords.
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>>158521793

>wikia
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>>158521793
>wikia
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>>158521427
>>158521478

Nasu retconned Medea's Master to look that way and had Takeuchi design him. He's also in Case Files and FGO CE.
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>>158521865
>>158521687
She clearly has never done that.
No wonder this general is so shitty.
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>>158521879
Servants can do whatever the fuck, especially in cyber space

If Joan Alter can do it, then Karna can do it.
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>>158521865
Meh, them changing the lore for a servant to be more waifu friendly makes enough sense.
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>>158521895
>>158521940
Why do people hate the wikia?
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Speaking of Caster's original master, who was True Assassin's original master before he got killed by Medea?
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>>158521865
It is stupid, but that is what Nasu went with. Atalanta's vow of chastity is still active.
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>>158521427
>The character originally described in the visual novel of Fate/stay night is different than the version that appeared in the anime adaptation. When commenting on it in his blog, Nasu said, ""What, the game version says he's a middle-aged man of medium build? No, no, that's definitely just an illusion. Don't give it a second thought. You need to raise your "Insight" more... line your brain with eyes... yes... let's make contact together in Yharnam..."
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>>158522062
>Why do people hate the wikia?
>this is the average /fgog/ poster.
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>>158522062
There is nothing wrong with it. It's their defense mechanism to try to discredit your argument because they can't come up with a counter-argument.
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>>158521879
Nero has enough high enough ranked magic for a beam blade.

>all these retards wanting myth and historical accuracy
Fucking retards, go play a different series then.
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>>158522194
It is a funny meme though. Kind of how they call everyone reddit
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>>158522194

Thanks, Gilfag.
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>>158522194
What argument?
>>158522175
I never had a problem with it.
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>>158522194
>being this new
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>>158514452
I want Mata Hari to make me her brainwashed slave!
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>>158522194
Nice try Gilcuck.
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>>158522194

You don't need the wikia if you actually read the fucking visual novel you piece of shit secondary.
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>>158522062
They don't like to be proven wrong so they hate wiki for being able to provide proof. Without it they can pretend to being right about whatever bullshit they say and whenever someone corrects them they'll just deny it since there isn't any proof that they are wrong.
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>>158522394
Yeah, let me just start up F/SN and spend hours re-reading it to find a single point in the VN with the info I need...
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>>158522168
>you'll never be one of his bitches

Why live?
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>>158512737
>Nightingale is better than Vlad
nice meme
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>>158521865
Atlanta's bond CE or some text I recall somewhere hints that the sex still happened, maybe.

It was more "i don't want to remember what happened inbetween" sort of line.
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>People getting mad over the wikia.
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>>158522516
this :o
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>>158522472
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>>158522045
You would have to change it at a different point to make sense or be anything more than a cheap cop-out.

>>158522147
That's retarded and I refuse to accept it. If the part about the lion is in, it has to be accurate to her origin as there would be no reason for that kind of punishment. If he wants to make her more waifufag friendly then he should alter it so Aphrodite punishes them directly, rather than cursing them with lust in a temple so they'd be punished by another god.
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Post dindus.
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>>158521478
>The anime isn't really a legitimate source for ret-cons
Buddy, the anime is the new canon now. Even Nasu acknowledges the changes it made as how things are supposed to be.

I get it, trust me I get it. You're a primary and you don't want to let go of the VN you like so much, the one you put on a pedestal and treat as a sacred relic. Still you need to understand things change, with time new entries into the franchise are made and you have to accept the changes they bring with them. Nasu, the author himself, does. So why can't you?
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>>158522194
The problem is that were some fucks who sucked fuyuki 'wiki's cock and it was all make up shit there. Like the elephant meme fags believed to be real.
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>>158512737
Still better than Shuten Dogshit
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>>158522618

>one line about an insignificant character now invalidates the entire visual novel

Fuck off you pathethic secondary.
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>>158522472
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>>158522394
>You need to read the VN to know an author's comment that's not in the VN.
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>>158522595
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>>158522618

This is a really good bait, i'll give you 1 (You) for effort.
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>>158522394
Says the one who can't remember that Caster's Master is a middle aged dude without remarkable features in the VN.

You're going to say that Kiritsugu didn't leave his wife in the castle with Ilya next. Another thing he retconned.
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>>158522539
Wondering about that myself. I'm down with it because I legitimately like Nightingale, but her usefulness seems a bit niche still.
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>>158522618
I'm not a primary though, i got into the series with the DEEN version and only read the VN when they announced the UBW anime.
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Post true evil
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>>158522773
The truth isn't bait. Primaries can't accept the anime as the new (or updated) canon because they lose their "superiority" over secondaries. They can't stand anime-only fans are on par with them so they refuse anything the anime has to say, even if they have to go against Nasu's word.
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>>158522905
If you read the VN you're primary, you imbecile. Where do you guys even came from, I swear.
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>>158521478
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>>158514047
Jack was released as part of the broken meme quick trio when they made powecreeping Servants. They toned that shit down after the Scat/Okita/Jack shit made every single other unit of the same class useless.
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>>158522918
>>
Liz a cute.
A CUTE!
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>>158523074
Neat. on one hand i'm pretty satisfied with how most of the NP's look like with shit like Tsubame Gaeshit looking clearer and the Rho Ais vs Thrown Gae bolg having alot more bunch, on the other LASER BOLG looks fucking silly.
oh well.
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>>158513515
Waver is regarded as the best unit by that ranker. You can see it when he writes the evaluation.
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so, when is the secret part of the event starting

I've been hoarding all of these item-buffs
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I just used Tristan for the first time.

I love him, he deserves all my grails.
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Elizabeth Bathory (Brave)

The Halloween-celebrating Elizabeth (Caster) that became a Saber at the end of an unfortunate fate.
With the power of dragon, power of music and a second Halloween on her side, it is not like there isn’t a feeling that nobody that can stop her anymore.

With a pure white mantle, a crimson armor and a straightforward great sword that lacks in decorations for modern trends in hand, the Hero Elizabeth pushes on today as well.

You should not concern yourself with minor details too much.

By being chosen as a Hero, her usual mood swings and wickedness have lessened, and Elizabeth acquired a bravery-like (albeit somewhat willful) personality that helps the weak and outwits the strong.
That is because Elizabeth is mistaking her own position as a hero - maybe due perceiving that “Saber = an ally of justice” - and working hard to fulfill it; or so it seems.
However, since she is sticking to an unfamiliar character of the side of justice, she is even more clumsy than usual.

Height/Weight: 154cm・48kg
Source: Halloween Comeback!
Region: Prison Castle Csejte
Alignment: Chaotic Good
Gender: Female
*overall weight includes the weight of the armor.

Double Class: E
A miraculous mutation born from a fusion between Lancer and Caster.
That being said, there are no benefits in special.

Prana Burst (Courage): D
Although it is Prana Burst, this is an extremely rare internal-type.
Increases defenses. Strangely, she is not glad at all.
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>>158523531
nice anon
faggot
>>
>Nasu doesn't do retcons!

I'm being meme'd? He changed the timeline about three times since the VN was released. That's why Karen is now 13/14 years old by his own fuck up, despite clearly looking older.
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>>158523578
Heroic Great Principle: EX
1: a hero must be invincible;
2: a hero must be enthusiastic;*
3: a hero can freely use most of the lost items;
...and so on; the saying goes that there are about ten general rules.
As far as Skills go, this is like a lead up to the protagonist-reversal usually seen in action manga.

Legend of the Crimson Hero: EX
A hero’s greatest secret art and super-privilege, said to be only usable in the movie-version.
Consumes large amounts of hero power to achieve a super power-up.
A super buff of the same type as Tamamo-chan Summer’s Goddess Metamorphosis.
However, despite having such requirements, this is a gamble skill that has random factors in it. People can only think of her as a player.

NOBLE PHANTASM

Báthory Brave Erzsébet - Tornado Demoness of Fresh Blood
Rank: B
Type: Anti-Unit
Range: 10~30
Max Targets: 1 person
The Saber-version of the Demoness of Fresh Blood.
A forbidden sword technique that seals the opponent with a storm-like hero power, uses that opportunity to clash with a full-power high-speed rotatory thrust and makes him explode.
Of course, said hero power derives from Elizabeth’s sonic breath.
The super-thunder screw slash fired towards the opponent, who was stunned in mind and body by Elizabeth’s ultrasonic waves, can pulverize even a sign of forbidden entry.
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>>158523659
>Even Akira Toriyama knows better about timelines than Nasu

Shit!
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>>158523578
>Double Class: E
>A miraculous mutation born from a fusion between Lancer and Caster.
>That being said, there are no benefits in special.

This shit was introduced for Semiramis, right? And other memers of Apocrypha.
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>>158522885
She's great support for berserkers
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>>158523531
Tristan is great
I got him to NP3 trying for Gawain so I levelled him out of anger, but he's actually really useful and his sprites are fabulous

His Harp of Healing and buff cancel made him my mvp during the Exhibition Battles
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Cleopatra

The tragic queen who carved her beauty in history, Cleopatra VII.
The last queen of Ptolemaic Egypt and, in practice, the last pharaoh of Ancient Egypt.
In many literary works, she is told as a bewitching beauty who indulged in love and misappropriated her country, but the truth is the exact opposite.
She is highly intelligent, being specially gifted in financial handiness. Under the command of this top lady, the militarily inferior Ptolemaic Egypt grew into one of the greatest economic powers in the world.

In public, she would behave arrogantly as a queen; but regarding her own personal matters, Cleopatra restrains her eccentric attitude and becomes a well-raised, prudent and cool high-class young woman.
In simple terms, her attribute would be high-handed, sadistic kindness.
Despite having sadistic tastes, she is kind. Although she is an extreme sadist, this does not mean that she gains pleasure at tormenting others.
She does not disparage others in other to feel good herself, but rather she just have that sort of character.

While she behaves as a queen, her true nature is that of a honorable person who understand decorum, pays attention to her surroundings and attempts to preserve harmony.
When foreign delegations arrived, her usual practice would be to disparage at them with words such as:
“In my country, I myself am the absolute standard, and those unattractive are no different from slaves - no matter who they might be.
Heh, better prepare yourselves, you inferior or substandard fouls!
You can relax to your hearts’ content here!”
All while, at the same time, being concerned with the delegates’ health and rewarding them with the greatest hospitality.
Maybe because of that, countless were the delegates who requested audiences just to be disparaged by Cleopatra, or something.
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>>158520749

Iron
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>>158523578
>literally "don't think about it" in the bio
Thanks Nasu.
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>>158523808
In her lifetime, Cleopatra got close to two men.
One was Caesar. She fell in love with him in a manner that couldn’t be more clear. Such passion and state of mind made even the winds that stirred the Mediterranean Sea look dazzling, but...
He died. Despite the unification of the Mediterranean world laying right before his eyes, he ended up being assassinated. Leaving behind their son Caesarion.

And then, there was one person who appeared before Cleopatra as she was lost in tears. A man who announced he would protect Cleopatra and the Ptolemaic Egypt: the Roman general Antonius.

After having loved her country and people, as well as two men - Caesar and Antonius of Rome - in the end, she committed suicide.

She got close to two men, and died.
It was love. The result of her feelings. As if it could have been the product of self-interest or the likes!--- However, let alone in later generations, there were unanimous rumors about how “that devilish woman seduced the Roman generals” even in her own time. As a result, upon becoming a heroic spirit, she acquired an existence as a “seducing woman endowed with devilish beauty” in this present-day in which she manifested as a Servant.

Even still, as her dignity---
She only gets close to wonderful gentlemen.
A person possessing a sincere nature and, just like the two men she once fell in love with, whom she can believe would not regret dying together with her; only such a person may utterly seduce her.
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>>158523924

Height/Weight: 171cm・58kg
Source: Historical fact
Region: Egypt
Alignment: Lawful Neutral
Gender: Female
Strictly speaking, the “last pharaoh” would be her child Caesarion, who Cleopatra had chosen as a joint governor in her last years. After all, Caesarion outlived Cleopatra for at least a few days.
However, Caesarion only had 9 years-old when he lost his life. Thus, the de facto “last pharaoh” - who ruled the country and fought against fate - was Cleopatra.
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>>158524039
>171cm
Too tall.
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>>158523808
>Although she is an extreme sadist, this does not mean that she gains pleasure at tormenting others.
What did he mean by this?
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>>158521032
I have an unhealthy obsessions with F/SN Illya.
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>mfw cleo needs mats that none of my other servants use
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>>158523924
>Leaving behind their son Caesarion.
cuckfags btfo

This confirms he was Ceasar's son.
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>>158523691
>a hero can freely use most of the lost items
Tell that to Astolfo.
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>>158523659
Not really. It went from being set in 2004 (based on the concrete dates and days of the week given) to being ambiguous back to being set in 2004.
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>>158524132
"don't think about it"
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>>158524132
I guess its like the story of the scorpion and the toad

Its not that the toad gets anything out of stinging people, its just its nature.
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>>158524130
>171 cm
>Tall
>>
>TWO (2) only guys allowed challenge quests

fuck this shit
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>>158524039

>tfw cleopatra is taller than me
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>>158524130
Maybe it's her height with heels like Ushi
>>
Vlad III (EXTRA)

A famous hero from Romanian history.
A noble warrior who held on to Walachia’s independence and was even called the shield of Christian world.
However, he is an innocent monster whose title of Dracula ended up spreading across the world instead.

For the sake of protecting Walachia from the Turkish armies to the end, he purged the nobles who had laid waste to the country and impaled over 20,000 enemies soldier from the Turkish army, but he had to run counter to the nobility in order to carry out his doctrine of severe punishment.
In the end, he was assassinated by his own subordinates - the Wallachian nobles.

Vlad III chose no means to protect the independence of Walachia, becoming hated as a demon by the Turks.
In the year of 1462.
In order to oppose the 150,000 strong Turkish army with only 10,000 troops, Vlad III instructed the use of scorched-earth tactics and guerrilla warfare.
On top of having the populace run away to the Carpathian Mountains, he ambushed the Turkish army after emptying even the capital.
At that time, what laid in the surroundings of the capital of Bucharest, was the impaled form of over 20,000 Turkish soldiers.
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>>158524130
>>158524291
Heels don't count so she's shorter.

Eli is also tall
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>>158524130
>>158524291
>manlets
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>>158524376
A swarm of countless impaled corpses, towering on the surroundings of the Bucharest fortress. With such bizarreness and offensive smell, he completely crushed the morale of the valorous Turkish soldiers.
It has been said that even the brave Mehmed II, who was called the “conqueror”, withdrew his forces after stating “I do not fear any man, but a demon is another matter”.
At that time, the length of the impalement field was 3 kilometers, while the width was 1 kilometer. Even when Walachia was later occupied by the Ottoman Turkey Empire, its autonomy was continuously recognized because of this trauma.

Dracula was originally a title which he had claimed for himself, and it means “son of the dragon”.
This derives from his father, Vlad II, who was a knight of the Holy Roman Empire’s Order of the Dragon that called himself Dracul.
Prince Vlad believed in the love of the Lord, and attempted to fulfill his responsibility as a noble by correcting injustice.
However, the feudal lords who indulged in the wealth of the privileged class disliked his honorable poverty, and the warrior who saved the Christian world was punished by means of an artifice.

Height/Weight: 191cm・90kg
Source: Historical fact
Region: Romania
Alignment: Lawful Good
Gender: Male
While his appearance and behavior are like that of a Berserker, the last vestiges of rationality still dwells in his eyes. The emotion of a knight to believe in true love, and attempt to protect one of its fragment.
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>>158523924
>their son Caesarion
I see Nasu has fallen for cuck propaganda. He's not related by blood to Caesar so he isn't really their son, even if that fat retard wants to act like it's true.
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>>158524417
A lot of characters have heights with (Ushi, Nito) and others without (Anne, Scat)
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>>158524532
>Nasuverse history isn't 1:1 exactly the same as real world history
Wow.
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>>158524504
Innocent Monster: A
The name of a monster that had his past and way of being twisted by means of the image that was born from his deeds while alive. Abilities・appearance ended up being transformed.
In the present, “Dracula” is one of the most famous monsters in the world. Probably the greatest sample-case of reality being distorted by a literary work.
...still, it is also a fact that one cannot affirm that everything was an insolence by the writer Bram Stoker.
Vlad III chose no means to protect the independence of Walachia, and was feared as a demon by both the Turks and the populace of his own country.
In accordance with records reported to the Vatican, the number of people he impaled during his lifetime reached 10,000. The most frightening part is that such number does not include people of the enemy nation.

NOBLE PHANTASM

Kazikli Bey - Stronghold of Impalement
Rank: C
Type: Anti-Army
Range: 0~50
Max Targets: 300 people
Released from the magic spear, a demonic castle of torture (Drakulya) of curse and punishment that grows countless spears from the surrounding terrain and passes judgement on the enemy.
Because it targets the entire enemy force opposing him, this Noble Phantasm display its true worth in a battle of one-against-many.
Given its source, it has a special trait that increases pain in proportion to the sins of misconduct・depravity possessed by the enemy. The destructive power increases the greater the sins of “desertion”, “immorality” and violence committed by the opponents, the subjects of purge.
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>cm
>kg

I hate these stupid meme measurements. Put it in terms people actually understand.
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>>158522907
I wanna bully this banana into submission!
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>>158524039
>However, Caesarion only had 9 years-old when he lost his life
I'm pretty sure he was in his late teen when best boy killed him.

>As if it could have been the product of self-interest or the likes
The whitewashing is off the chart meanwhile true heroes like Jason and Perseus are faggots in Nasuverse.
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>>158524665
Stop your bitching Amerifat
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>>158524665
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>>158523578
I fucking love her.
All my of Grails.
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So is Cleopatra officially a cuck servant?
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>>158524786
Yes.
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>>158524665

>americans are too dumb to understand terms the rest of the world use
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>>158524704
>Nasu says he was 9 years old
>no no no he wasn't this is wrong Nasu is wrong I know more about the Nasuverse than him
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>>158524665
fuck off murrica sistem
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>>158524376
>>158524504
>>158524640
Exactly the same as his info in Extra. A bit disappointing to be honest.
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>>158524852
>>158524832
>>158524782
>>158524750
Fuck off 3rd world scum. Nowhere worth note uses your measurement system.
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>>158524665
I'm glad Japan uses superior measurement. Eat shit.
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>>158521427
He's described as a middle-aged man who pissed off Medea enough by limiting his prana supply to her so that she wouldn't be as good a magus as him. Then she somehow buttered him enough to convince him to waste all 3 of his CS on trivial commands

UBW anime retconned him to a bishonen asshole probably to parallel their planned vision of Jason
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>>158524832
Fahrenheit is objectively better for everyday measurement of temperature than Celsius.
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>>158524940
I'm a fellow burger and I still laughed at you. The conversion is easy to learn and get used to.
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>Based Putin unveils Satan 2
>can blow up countries of the size of France and UK
>Lancelot can KoH it
>Lancelot can destroy 20 average countries in one attack
>Lancelot KoH'd Satan 2 can wipe out half the American Continent
W€W THANKS BASED PUTIN NOW LANCELOT IS EVEN MORE VNR!V 4LL ED
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>>158524992
>americucks actually believe this
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>>158524786
Yes, but Caesar is a good guy who deserves being reunited with Cleopatra
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Nani the fuck?
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>>158525074
Why am I so attracted to this
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>>158524837
I'm not bitching, I'm just pointing the fact Nasu made a mistake. Remove Nasu's cock from your mouth already.
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>>158525169
Old pic from one of the FGO manga. Nothing new, tumblrshitter.
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>>158525169
I mean, I would tell you what its from if not for you typing like a faggot and having a tumblr image.
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>>158525169
>tumblr
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>>158525117
>Fahrenheit
100 degree weather is hot as fuck outside (and close to your internal body temperature)
0 degree weather is cold as fuck outside

>Celsius
100 degree weather means you're dead
0 degree weather is cold but not particularly uncommon.
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>>158525074

Too bad g o d h a n d will make Satan 2 null and void after the first kill you idiot.
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>>158525304
Yes we already know Nasu is a hack that gets plenty wrong, Cleopatra being white made that very apparent to everybody.
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>>158525304
Nasu made no mistake. It's his universe, his own history, he can do whatever the fuck he wants. If he says the kid was 9 years old, he was 9 years old. Period. There is no "buts" here. He was 9 years old and that's all that matters as far as the Nasuverse goes. Go to some Egyptian history forum if you want to talk about real life Caesarion. Here you talk about Nasuverse's Caesarion or you don't.
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>>158525501
>Cleopatra being white made that very apparent to everybody.
(You)
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>>158525529
slut
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>>158525431
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>>158525529
You're not you when you're hungry
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>>158525441
>at least 8 lives lost to Overload
>at least 8 more to the Caspian Sea sized swordbeam
kek
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>>158525510

Nasuverse Caesarion is supposed to be real Caesarion you mongrel, that's the whole point of basing your characters off real people. Thus when Nasu makes an error in historical facts, it is only naturally that the fans call him out on his poorly researeched garbage.
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>>158522885
Nightingale is amazing with the right team. She is Buster Tama but her other skills are much better than Tama's. Great heal and the humanoid attack/defense buff makes her really strong fighting other servants.

I run Waver with 2030, Nightingale with 2030 and Jeanne Alter with Joint Recital and everything dies
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>>158525529
I always knew Ibaraki prefered them brown.
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>>158525431
100 degree celsius is the boiling point, where water starts to boil.
0 degree celsius is the freezing point, where water starts to freeze.

Fahrenheit is just all fucked up and doesn't make sense.
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>>158525431
Celsius makes so much more sense. I don't know who has the cuck who thought Fahrenheit was a good idea. I mean, 0 as cold but not that cold sounds good, it's like the middle ground between plus and minus, but 100 being close to your internal temperature? That's gay as fuck.
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>>158525648
>Nasuverse Caesarion is supposed to be real Caesarion
Not how Nasuverse works, how the hell did you get this far into the franchise and not know that Nasuverse is its own crazy stupid version of history that doesn't line up at all.
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>>158525312
>>158525317
>>158525346
I know it's from the T-M Ace Volume 11, but I don't think there's been scanlations yet.
Doesn't he trace Excalibur in it, too?
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>>158520110
Depends if he has his ME or not
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>>158525781
There's been scanlations for a while.
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>>158524786
No, you shouldn't ship yourself with her, retard. You should be gunning for her and Ceasar to get together and kill Mark Anthony when he appears to crash their party.

It's like Sita/Rama. Why the fuck would you waifu/husbando them?
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>>158525693
But it does.
Both make sense. Fahrenheit is around human tolerances. Celsius is for science,
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>>158525510
Calm down faggot, you are saying Nasu did change Caesarion's age of death on purpose? Don't tell me someone as delusional as you exist on this planet. The jap wiki was just wrong, son.
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>>158525648
>meanwhile Nero is a girl and Attila is an alien
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>>158525693
Which is why it and Kelvin are better for science. Maybe even for cooking, though I can't say I've cooked in metric.

But if you want to know whether you should wear a jacket or shorts, or what you want to set your air conditioning at, Fahrenheit is better.`
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>>158525781
>but I don't think there's been scanlations yet.
There has, but like we said before, no one really wants to give up info to someone being a faggot. That's what happened when /feg/ guy showed up the other night.
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>>158525648
No. Nasuverse's Caesarion is his own character and Nasu can change whatever he wants about him. It's his universe, his rules, his history. You don't get to decide something is wrong when he made something very clear. If he later says Caesarion was 10 years old, then you can say the 9 years old statement was wrong.
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>>158512659
Shit reddit "translations" still in the pastebin. We need to remove reddit and their cancer from this general for good.
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>>158525825
Well, aren't I smart.
>>158525913
I'm a little late on this, sorry for not keeping up lol.
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>>158525874
Best girl.
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>>158525648

>Francis Drake was a big boobed woman
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>>158525942
The people bitching endlessly about reddit have become infinitely more cancerous than reddit, though I at least agree that the reddit TL pastebin should be removed.
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is it worth doing another 10 roll just for the 5* mashu CE
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>>158525693
Fahrenheit scale is based on the human body temperature at 96F and freezing point of Brine at 0F. 96 being more useful as a scale because it was divisible by 6
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>>158525982
XD no problem fellow redditer *high five*
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>>158525982
>lol

Just go back to wherever the fuck you came from.
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>>158525995
Couldn't see your best girl over my cat
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>>158525838
Nasu didn't change anything. The kid always died when he was 9 years old. That's how it has always been in the Nasuverse as of right now.
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Nasu didn't really design or write Cleo's info at all though..

Wasn''t it Sakurai?
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>>158526139
>>158526158
h-hayai
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>>158526171
>>>/reddit/
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>>158525671
you could replace Nightingale with Mata Hari and everything would still die
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>>158526250
What's your problem with jalter?
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>>158526250
>>>>/tumblr/
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>>158526171
Shes really good, but not Nero or Liz.
She's in my top 10 for sure though.
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>>158526171
jesus those are huge nipples
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>>158525874

Have you even be reading the translation of Grand Order? It is clearly stated that the real Attila The Hun is in the throne of heroes, and Altera is just her to make waifubux. Thus, the real Nero is in the throne of heroes as well.

>>158526002

Have you played EXTRA? It's clearly stated that the "Francis drake" servant is just queen elizabeth in disguise.


>>158525939
>>158525770

It's clearly stated in the VN that servants are supposed to be historical/mythological figures combined with any legends they've accumilated over the years. This is merely a case off Nasu not doing his research correctly.
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>>158526332
No Mashu in there?
>>158526393
Fuck yeah they are
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>>158526436
Why would Mashu be there?
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>>158526412
>I-It all makes sense guys! Nasu isn't a hack
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>>158526186
Holy shit, there are still people stupid enough to buy Nasu's shit. That's more rare than unicorn.
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>>158525770
>>158525939
Fucking retards, every servant are based on real-world history or mythology. If it's wrong, it's wrong. Nasu lost every right to use "it's my own story" as an excuse when he decided to be a fucking hack and piggyback on every other writer to ever exist instead of making something on his own.
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>>158525901
>96 being more useful as a scale because it was divisible by 6
Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on that. Multiples of 10 works better.
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>>158526047
People need to be reminded daily that it is still there so that maybe one day the thread baker will get a fucking clue and not leave it in.
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>>158526412
>It's clearly stated
I do not think you know what this word means

You probably mean "implied" at most. However it was later deconfirmed in FGO.
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>>158526412
Yes, Nasuverse's historical/mythological figures, NOT real world figures. You're mixing reality and fiction and blaming Nasu when both clash on minor details. It's not Nasu's fault you use his world as a form of escapism and get mad when something is different.
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ROMA and Egyptian family joined.
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>>158526412
>Thus, the real Nero is in the throne of heroes as well.

Can we get him instead of the retarded whore?
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>>158526609
But it is Nasu's fault that his world is a retarded hackjob of erroneous history and contradicting statements.
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>>158526412
>It's clearly stated in the VN that servants are supposed to be historical/mythological figures combined with any legends they've accumilated over the years.
if this was truth, none of them would be girls, anon. Nasu is shit at keeping his lore and rules. Not that anon, but while I love Fate, I don't think Nasu's a great world builder because he sacrifices consistency for the sake of fanservice.
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>>158526540
Fuck off retard.
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>>158526616
I don't get the connection between these africans and greeks
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>>158526616
Why is Nito darker than Rameses?
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>>158526048
yes it was
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Nero is the best.

>>158526838
Go read a book nigger.
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>>158526558
Multiples of 10 might be EASY but 96 has more divisors than 100.
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>>158526979
I don't subscribe to the white man's whitewashing history.
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>>158526735
No it's not. It's Nasu's world and he can do whatever the hell he wants with it You are just an entitled fucktard that think he has to pander to your autism. Fuck off.
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>>158526558
The metric system was proposed like a century later than the Fahrenheit scale
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>>158527072
>Literally "Believe in Nasu, motherfuckers! "
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>>158527121
see >>158526939
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>>158526616
I don't give a shit about waifufags and cuckfags, so I think it's better to keep it this way, to make the servant dynamics fun.
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>>158527243
So you have no argument and have to resort to a reactionface and greentexting instead of admitting he was right. Are you done here?
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>>158527307
see>>158527121
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>>158527243
If you don't like it fuck off. I'm tired of you shitting up the threads and complaining all the time.
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>>158526643

Yes.

>>158526605

It was in Attila's interlude I believe, the mention that the real Attilla when talking about his wife or somethiing like that? The exact details escape me.

>>158526609
>>158527072

What the fuck does this even mean? The second he decided to use real world figures as characters in his series, he obtained the burdering of doing research and fact checking. These are real people, not characters he made up therefore he has no right to change the facts of their lives.
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>>158527460
you nigger i'm >>158526048 and >>158526939
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>>158527072
A world ceases to become 'just the author's' the moment he releases it in public and starts making money off it, dumbfuck.

I'll call out Nasu's hackery and retarded Nipwank as many times as I have to.
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>>158527243
I think his argument is "This is fiction universe, not our universe. Nasu can say that King Arthur was born in 2004, and that would be true for his universe". Its not sucking off Nasu or "believe in Nasu", its that whatever the writer for his universe creates is true for his universe.
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>>158527460
fuck off
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>>158527519
Did he used existing figures? Yes. Does he have to make them a 1:1 copy of their real life counterpart? No, he can do whatever he wants with them because it's his world. Is it really that hard for you to understand that? Go make your own world if you don't like the changes he made, but don't label them as wrong because they aren't.
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>>158527519
>It was in Attila's interlude I believe, the mention that the real Attilla when talking about his wife or somethiing like that? The exact details escape me.

He meant Drake, not Altera.
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>>158527634
No its his you autistic fucker.
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>>158527519
>he obtained the burdering of doing research and fact checking.
No he doesn't. Fuck off that's just autistic. Nobody even cares who these people are, the only reason anyone even reads Fate is because of Nasu being the writer, the characters are only interesting because of Nasu writing them well.
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Quit bitching, and post waifus.
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>we could've had powerlevel discussions instead of this

Lancelot toys with Eli's strongest form ever while Origin Gil can't
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>>158527637
I don't care about that, Nasu can change whatever he wants what I said is Nasu is an uneducated retard and he made a mistake. Changing Caesarion's date of death wasn't intentional to begin with.
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>>158527912
>Nasu
>writing well

kek go read some real writers like GRR Martin or John Scalzi.
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>>158527959
Nero has a different date too doesnt she?
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>>158527912
You need to take Nasu's cock out of your mouth.

>>158527973
And you need to get some actual taste.
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>>158526540
Records of real world history is the same in Nasuverse as it is with us, but is inaccurate as fuck since it was written, rewritten and passed down generations after generations. It's just like how 9/11 was globally blamed on the Middle East when it was an inside job by the American government to push people into making war with them.

>>158527109
I don't know if that's true, but if it is, then why didn't America switch? Asia and European countries aren't using it anymore, so why stick with it?
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>>158527634
You have no fucking right to do so you entitled bitch. You have never written anything significant in you entire life so your opinions doesn't mean shit.
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>people complaining that a world that contains a magic ginger nip who can create magic swords out of nothing doesn't have the same exact history as the real world
>>
FUCKING HELL
STOP FIGHTING
HOLY SHIT
ITS JUST PATHETIC
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>>158528105
kek
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>>158528036
>Nero has a different date too doesnt she?
What is it in Nasuverse?
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>>158527918
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Regarding that, it's blatently obvious that it's supposed to be queen elizabeth. They don't out right say it because they use a writing technique called "being subtle." Notice how rider has a scar on her face. What did the real queen elizabeth have on her face? A scar.

>>158527912
>>158527678

If he can't handle the research, then he needs to make up his own fucking characters like he basically did with Mashu. The whole reason people got into this series is because of the historical characters.
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>>158528105
That guy's a non-factor, its the famous figure that counts.
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>>158527748
>>158528063

Nasu is literally wrong with his historical facts and the attitude of pretending that's okay is why the world is going to shit. Stop defending a hack.
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>>158528256
I'm here for the memes and redmen.
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A new low in autism today with this shit. Well done, Minna-san.
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>>158528256
>The whole reason people got into this series is because of the historical characters.
That's your problem, not Nasu's. Whatever he said about his characters are true to the Nasuverse, which is the only thing that matters when talking about Type-Moon.
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>>158528228
when will i get this cute birdman i have every 3* archer (most NP5) except him
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>>158528280

The fact that he exists in the first place should tell you that his world is vastly different from ours.

If you want to call Nasu a hack because of a fuck up he did during the story i'll join you, but doing it because his characters don't exactly reflect reality this far down the road is just silly.
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>>158528256
>research
He doesn't need to do any idiotic research if he doesn't want to. It's his characters.

>The whole reason people got into this series is because of the historical characters.
No you autistic fucking cocksucker. People started reading F/SN because they heard it was done by the same author that did Tsukihime.
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Holy shit, someone make a bingo for Nasu's shills.
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I don't think Nasu needs anonymous chucklefucks defending him from other anonymous chucklefucks' criticisms on the internet.
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>>158528315
Nasu isn't wrong because his not trying to write some kind of encyclopedia of worthless "fun facts", his creating a universe with its own rules, laws and history. If he wants something to be different then that's his choice, not yours.
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>>158512659
Guys Need supports
I don't think i could clean the Shop this event.
795,450,051
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>>158528752
You're assuming it was a conscious decision and not just a fuckup.
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>>158528280
>That guy's a non-factor, its the famous figure that counts.

So what about all the famous figures who don't exist yet do in Nasuverse? Henry Jekyll and Edmond Dantes were real people here who Stevenson and Dumas just heard about and used as the basis for stories.
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>>158528625
>shills
Fuck off /pol/
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>>158528475
Soon I hope. I wish I could send you my extra bird.
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>>158528446

No its not just my problem, considering the historical figures are a selling point to the franchise. Its false advertising.

>>158528552

>its his characters

Except their not, they are historical figures not original creations from Nasu. Nasu did not create the servants, he is taking them from historical records and putting them in his franchise.
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Why can't I get that stupid CE?
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>>158528504
>but doing it because his characters don't exactly reflect reality this far down the road is just silly.
Yeah, I agree. Fate started with a genderbent King Arthur, a Gilgamesh that wears full plate golden armor that shouldn't exist from his time period, Cu Chulainn in silly blue tights, Herakles that sounds like a motorbike, Medea with elf ears (which is a good), Medusa who rides Pegasus, and a Kojirou who is a complete parody of his Pokemon counterpart. Why is he complaining now?
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>>158528937
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>>158528937
>servants are real
>the throne of heroes is real
Escapism at its finest. You really think you're living in the Nasuverse and everything that happened there happened here too.
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>>158529038
Probably because every single one of those people is a character in a story but Caesarion is just a throwaway mention.
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>>158528937
>No its not just my problem, considering the historical figures are a selling point to the franchise. Its false advertising.

>Historical
>Any of FSN servants

Only hassan works with that and the guy is literally a faceless man.
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>>158528937
>Except their not
Except they are, fuckface.
>Nasu did not create the servants
That's just what he fucking did.
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I love my waifu!

Night fgog, enjoy the shitposting autist.
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>>158529038
Fate nowadays attract more than just horny otakus. Suspension of disbelief varies among people, so you'd expect arguments about accuracy.
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>>158528937
>considering the historical figures are a selling point to the franchise
The selling point is Nasu.
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>>158529234
Goodnight anon.
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>>158529234
>Night fgog, enjoy the shitposting autist.

When the brain damaged avatarfag says you are an autist you should stop shitposting and go see a doctor.
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>>158529313
Actually the selling point is the context. The war with heroes fighting for the grail.
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>>158525682
Well, white chocolate is pretty gross.
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>>158529038

Is there a statue of limitations for critiquing a franchise? No? Then when I critque the franchise has no bearing on anything.

>>158529095

You are twisting my words, I clearly mean't that the Nasu did not create Nero, Francis Drake, Attila because they quite literlaly existed before he was born.

>>158529175

So nasu somehow created people that existed before he was even fucking born? Is that really what your saying?

>>158529150

They are supposed to be historical people, because their real lives counterparts actually existed. The problem is Nasu's poor research.
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>>158529498
Isn't the selling point getting to bang Saber, Rin or Sakura?
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Reminder that some kid no one cares about dying a few years earlier is not ok, but Helena Blavatsky being a cute loli with alien buddies is totally fine.
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>>158529313
Yeah this is why Mahoyo was such a big success, right? Oh chotto mate.
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>>158529498
It got popular in Japan because of Nasu and then it got popular in the west because of it being a massive success in Japan.
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>>158529596
>Sakura
>selling point

No.
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>>158528475
I'm pretty sure I rolled all my Robins in quartz gacha but even then his final copy was especially elusive
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>>158529658
Mahoyo failed because of it being so short and at the same time being very expensive for its length.
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>>158529563
You shut your whore mouth.
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>>158529568
>They are supposed to be historical people, because their real lives counterparts actually existed. The problem is Nasu's poor research.

Yeah arthur actually existed, medea and heracles too.

The point anon is that he is taking characters from real life and create new ones based on those. He isnt copy pasting fact or personalities or anything, at this point they are more references that anything else.
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>>158529563
Faggot.
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>>158529568
He took those historical figures and made changes to them, adapted them to his own universe in way that those changes make sense within his own universe. His versions are the only ones that matter.

It's your own problem you can't accept that and keep comparing them to their original counterparts. He doesn't have to make any research if he doesn't want to.

If he now comes out and says Napoleon is a talking bunny, you're gonna have to deal with it and accept it, because in the Nasuverse Napoleon is a talking bunny. Is it a mistake Napoleon is a talking bunny? No, because it was never something else within the Nasuverse. Was Napoleon something else in our life? Yes, but it's irrelevant when talking about the Nasuverse as they are two separated universes.
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>>158529848
Didnt mahoyo sells were ok? pretty sure that the failure thing is that wasnt between the top sales for the time.
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>>158529848
Yeah because f/z and ubw bds weren't expensive and people are spending a lot of money on the full of content mobage fgo. Stop posting anytime.
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>>158529759
Pleb
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>>158530096
>Napoleon is a bunny
Don't get me started on the insult that is Edison. Turning one of the greatest Americans into a furry caricature.
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>>158529846
What's weird is I did too until I got my fifth copy and then he showed up in the FP gacha.
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>>158530096
Caesarion isn't a character yet.
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>tfw using Chariot My Love on Cu Alter

I finally made my waifu happy
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>>158529596
>tfw I left that VN only wanting to bang Shirou
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>>158530340
>this is what cuckfags actually do
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>>158530223

>he doesn't like the lionman
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>>158530305
Doesn't matter. In the Nasuverse he died when he was 9 years old, that's all there is to it. It is not a mistake as he never died at any other age in the Nasuverse.
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>>158530409
It's normal to want to experience the jackhammer, anon.
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>>158530003

They are not new at all, they have the same name and same personalities as the base. I'm guessing the real reasom why servants are so fucked is because its hard to find primary sources for non japanese people in japanese.

>>158530096

Calling a fucking bunny napoleon is just shit writing, thats like saying the red hare from the leaked list is going to be Lu Bu as a talking horse. It is detestable, and if TYPE-MOON and DW want to keep their customers they have to get their shit together.
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Guys just stop replying.
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>>158530509
>same personalities as the base

Now you are just shitposting.
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>>158530409
He is pretty much the perfect husband if you can get past the whole swords thing.
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>>158530437
It's insulting. His backstory is also insulting to the office of the Presidency of the United States of America.
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>>158530509
>they have the same name and same personalities as the base
I didn't know you were there and talked to every single one of them, even the ones that don't exist. I guess Nasu is the same kind of god as you are or extremely lucky and managed to copy their exact personalities.
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>>158530503
But I wanted to give him the jackhammer
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>>158530509
All DW and TM needs to do to keep their customers is keeping Nasu as the main writer. That's all that matters.
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>>158530223
>>158530686
I'm sorry about that stick up your ass.
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>>158530686
Edison was a shitty person. It's karma.
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>>158530686
>m-muh presidents
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>>158530686
>Murricafags dont like that the presidents team up to created a powerfull enough hs using a low tier one.
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>>158530686

>this is your average american poster
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>>158530653
Why the hell is he a sword anyway?
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Lancelot current powerlevel
>A++ Divine Construct with Infinite Durability that raises all his stats to above Enkidu level, grants advantage against Dragons and gives nigh invulnerability to stats effects via doubled saving throws
>A++ swordbeam of the size of the Caspian Sea, can be injected to explode from the inside
>KoH allows to turn weapons into NPs and augment their power, including 150 KW Lasers, Tsar Bomba 50MT Nuclear Bomb, Satan 2 Country Buster ICBM, Drones, Railguns, Destroyers, Jets, Tanks, Grenade Launchers, Guns, Alien Technology and many other things
>KoH can also steal NPs from enemies and allows BP spam
>FSG that blocks even Mind Reading and Clairvoyance, allows to shapeshift for infiltration, falseflagging and assassination missions, grants better stealth than A+ Presence Concealment
>highest skill of all Servants except Minamoto no Raikou (EAM)
Yet Lancelothaters (aka Gilcl_lcks and Herkt4rds) will still deny he is top tier and the greatest knight of all times, what a delusional bunch :^]
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>>158530627
>>158530749

Lets talk about the SN servants then shall we?

Saber-Genderbend aside, its well known that fate knows its shit when it comes to arthurian mythos
Lancer-i dont know much about irish myth, but ive heard from experts that hes pretty accurate
Caster-Retcons aside regarding Jason, medea is pretty much the same as the myth
Medusa-lack of snake legs aside, she's an accurate representation
Berserkr-Due to mad enhancement, we can't determine accuracy.
Fake assassin-Not familiar with japanese history, but from what I know of him he's a pretty accurate representation. That might change once miyamoto gets in
TA-Most accurate in terms of design and personality.

>>158530781

Not true, Strange fake is doing just fine with Narita at the helm.
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The fuck.
What an idiot.
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>>158531404
Well, Narita is miles better than Nasu so
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>>158531404
>it's an accurate representation but only you ignore these very specific things that make them not be an accurate representation

Go eat a dick.
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>>158531520
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>>158531557

Feel free to come up with a counter argument instead of resorting to ad hominen. If you can, that is.
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>>158531520
Maybe he just wants to corrupt Tamamo.
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>>158531520
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>>158531404
>TA-Most accurate in terms of design and personality.
>Hassan i-Sabbah was an arab with a 2-metre arm and his face carved off in real life
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>>158531404

>disregarding everything that's different they're pretty much the same

What a revelation.
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>>158530846
To be fair, a lot of these mythical beings and people were shitty. Atilla was quite the cunt in fact, but I suppose in the Nasuverse, the almighty vagina absolves you of all wrongdoings. Even Elizabeth Bathory is a dindu. If only Edison was a woman, he'd be a brilliant saint in Nasu's eyes.
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>>158531520
>it's LB'd

CHAOS
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So, what did the Halloween event part 1 left you with?
>LB Iri CE
And that's it, also regrets for that fucking gacha and a lot of stuff from the event store.
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>>158531520

>this is your average Tamacuck
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>>158531727

Being summoned once legends that have accumlated over the years is a hell of a drug anon.

>>158531740

Like I said to the other guy:
Feel free to come up with a counter argument, If you can, that is.
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>>158531404
> knows its shit when it comes to arthurian mythos
>Retcons aside regarding Jason, medea is pretty much the same as the myth
>Medusa-lack of snake legs aside, she's an accurate representation
>Most accurate in terms of design and personality.
What the fuck I am reading? You're american I can tell you.
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>>158531852
2x LB Iri CE
1x LB 3* CE

Didn't roll gacha, since i had all the stuff from last year.
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>>158531404
So you know nothing about the myths? becuase SN servants have a bunch of diferences with the myths, god medus is fucking mess for the same reason, and kojiro would actually be the more close if wasnt for the fact that they go out of the way to say that he doesnt exist anyway.

Anon, nasu is just using the real world character and create a new one using the myths and facts as references, not copy pasting every single detail.
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>>158531986
>I'm going to conveniently ignore what they said about my argument
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>>158530170
It sold pretty well for a VN.
But not nearly as well as F/SN or HA did.
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>>158531727

Forgot my picture, but as you can see this is what Hassan looks like before all of the legends of being an Assassin got applied to him. As you can, TYPE-MOON is clearly capable of doing proper research which is why I get so worked up over this. It pains me to see them be so lazy when I know they can do better.
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>>158531986

>Medusa
>not raped by poisedon
>got pegasus from him instead of it spawning from her neck
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>>158531404
>King Arthur was a pragmatic and cold king who didn't understand human feelings and had a dragon power reactor stuffed in his chest.

>Cu Chulainn is tall and wears blue spandex

>Medea has a fetish for innocent-looking girls

>Medusa was protecting her sisters from suitors, and they were a trio of loli man-made goddesses

I've never spoken to the real Hassan before so I can't say whether he actually has a devil arm and if his personality is accurate, but it's pretty clear you know jackshit about mythology.
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Since I rolled him I'm betting Extra Vlad is objective garbage and I should be ashamed of myself for spending quartz.
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>>158532143
That's Hundred-Face you retarded shitposter. It can't be anything other than bait at this point.
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>>158532410
He is quite bad, yes. HP focused and 4* stats just make him do shit damage. Even Kiyohime and Liz are better Lancers.
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>>158532337
>Medusa was protecting her sisters from suitors, and they were a trio of loli man-made goddesses
For all the liberties that Nasu takes, the part about Medusa and her sisters being goddesses is actually true, though Athena cursed all three of them into gorgons in their legend
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>>158532556
Like I thought.
I was really excited seeing the golden lancer card since I'd finally have a full gold roster but ah well.
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>>158532143
You do realize that the Fate/Zero OP was based on historical artworks based on those heroes, right?

http://cirnopoly.blogspot.com/2011/10/fatezero-memoria.html
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>>158532410
>>158532813
Who cares? If you like him use him. If you like anybody you should just use him. This game is easy enough to beat with no gold servants.
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>>158532667
The part where they were created as perfect little loli goddesses by the wishes of men definitely isn't true to the original myth though.
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>>158532907
I meant ED, fuck I'm drunk.
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>>158532457
Hundred Faced was confirmed to be a female when she was alive.
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>>158531987

Care to tell me what's wrong with those statements so that I can refute them or are you just going to use those meme arrows to attempt to discredit my post?

>>158532110

Kojirou not be real is stupid, I concede to that. Not sure what we're going with that, maybe they'll explain it once Miyamoto gets in grand order.

>>158532337


>King Arthur was a pragmatic and cold king who didn't understand human feelings and had a dragon power reactor stuffed in his chest.

I see you haven't read GOA.

>Cu Chulainn is tall and wears blue spandex

Not familiar with Irish mythology, but blame Nase for being a hack if it's not true. Irregardless of what you think of Zero's quality, it proves that when the series is given to a competent writer, they can get their facts straight.

>>158532337

Naturally she didn't have a fetish for that in her original life, but what's the problem with her developing that fetish in her new life?

>Medusa was protecting her sisters from suitors, and they were a trio of loli man-made goddesses

See

>>158532667

>>158532907

Precisely my point, Zero proves that they are capable of doing better so why should we be complacent with shit when we know the are capable of producing something great?
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>>158533123

>he was a butcherfag all along

That explains it, nice to see you ignoring the bits about Medusa and Poseidon too.
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>>158533123

>I see you haven't read GOA.

Show me where in Arthurian myth that King Arthur had a dragon reactor stuffed in his chest. Also show me where in Arthurian myth where King Arthur was perceived to be a heartless king by his subjects.

>See >>158532667

See >>158533021
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>>158532337
Cu Chulainn was like that because they couldn't have a naked guy running in blue body paint. Imagine what if Scathach was naked the entire time. The beach episode would be uncomfortable as their more primitive body paint would likely wash off.
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>>158533123
Zero ED was directed by ufotable staff and not by Type-Moon. This is also the reason why Fionn looks way different and why Giles armor was historically accurate. It was all ufotable.
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>>158533252

Apologies if I missed a post, it's a bit tricky to keep track of so many posts.

Regarding that, it's pretty obvious that the whole 'Poseiden didn't rape Medusa in the nasuverse" is just damage control from Medusa. She hasn't proven that she isn't a reliable source of information when she called Perseus a "successful Shinji" when we all know Perseus is a good boy.
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>>158533123
>says Nasu is a hack

>uses Garden of Avalon to support his arguments

kek
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>>158533510
>Perseus is a good boy
>Mass muderer with a mask
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>>158533123
>Precisely my point, Zero proves that they are capable of doing better so why should we be complacent with shit when we know the are capable of producing something great?

Its just the ed anon, doesnt mean shit to the characters. Zero characters have same level of problems as the SN ones.
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>>158533510

What about Pegasus? You can't just ignore the parts that don't support your argument.
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Can we have powerlevel shitposting back please. I can't stand seeing /fgog/ being baited this hard by a redditor.
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>>158533510
Yeah, I'll take the bait.

Damage control from Medusa? So you're saying she intentionally made herself look worse by claiming she turned into a monster from her own brutality and violence, instead of being a victim of rape and subsequently directly cursed into her monstrous form?

What type of damage control is that?
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>>158533821
Waifufag damage control. Being a monster is a lot better than being a rapeslut, just look at how hated Sakura is.
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>>158533880

Yeah, i'm sure Medusa looked at all those posts with people calling Sakura a wormslut before telling her story.
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>>158533880
Seriously thinking that Medusa broke the fourth-wall to play the waifu meta is quite certainly more retarded than anything Nasu is doing to the characters.
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>>158533421

>Show me where in Arthurian myth that King Arthur had a dragon reactor stuffed in his chest.

GOA justifies this very clearly, assuming your not a complete secondary you should have read this by now.

>>158533462
>>158533631

It still shows that they CAN do the research instead of just smoking a blunt and calling whatever they come up with a historical figure.

>>158533628

>t. medusa

>>158533597

I am not like Nasu as a writer, but GOA is canon so I have to accept it as a source of information.


>>158533641

We've already established that Medusa is an unreliable source of information, thus it is a reasonable assumption to make that she lied about receiving the pegasus from Poseidon for her own benefit.
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>>158534028
It's Nasu reassuring the reading through Medusa that she's going to be a likable character.
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>>158533628
He didn't turn into the grail tracer until his master's death made him snap though.
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>>158534004
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>>158534172
>GOA justifies this very clearly

He's talking about non Nasuverse Arthur, since you're they're the same if you ignore the genderbend.
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stop replying you fucks
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>>158534172

>i'll just ignore every single counter argument and call it a lie or say it doesn't count

That's not how this works.
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Snowfield lvl90 is the best place to farm bronze bags, right?
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>>158534172
I'm telling you to show where in actual Arthurian myth King Arthur had a dragon reactor stuffed in his chest. And where in actual Arthurian myth that King Arthur was regarded as too heartless and pragmatic.

GOA justifying it proves nothing because Nasu can just whip something up that proves Caesarion actually died at 9 in the Nasuverse and that'd be sufficient justification too to put an end to all this dumbfuckery I can't believe I'm reading.
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>>158534172
>real life and nasuverse are the same!!!
>so why is this bit different
>GOA explains it you secondary xDDDD
>keeps avoiding the main subject
(You)
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>>158534391
It's just shitposting.

>Nasu doesn't bother getting details right when writing about these historical figures REEEEEEEE

>But it's okay if he just makes shit up about them

Replying any further is a waste of time.
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>>158534172
>It still shows that they CAN do the research instead of just smoking a blunt and calling whatever they come up with a historical figure.

We already know that, most of the "retarded" shit in servants are based in some facts of their life. That doesnt mean they are going to copy paste everything

>We've already established that Medusa is an unreliable source of information, thus it is a reasonable assumption to make that she lied about receiving the pegasus from Poseidon for her own benefit.

Stop talking of shit you know nothing, the pegasus was born after medusa was killed. She never got the horse in myth.
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>>158534520
yes
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>>158534625

>dragon reactor on arthur is ok because Nasu explained it
>Edison is not ok even though Nasu explained it

I'm loving this actually.
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Did any of you actually used the event buffs?
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Dangerous
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>>158535025
for farming chimeras
because FUCK chimeras
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Is anyone else looking forward to [Rerun: A Week With Santa Alter]?
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>>158535025
Never.
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>>158535025

No reason to, just waiting to exchange them for QP at this point.
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>>158534391

Exactly, since Fate is considered to be a pretty good representation of Arthurian Mythos we can reasonably use GOA as a source of info since this is 4chan and not an Arthurian Mythology fourm.

>>158534497

Where have I done that? If you're talking about Medusa, it's pretty clear we have to call her credability into question when she compares Perseus to fucking Shinji of all people.

>>158534540

>Nasu can just whip something up that proves Caesarion actually died at 9

If Nasu can provide compelling evidence that the real Caesarion died at nine instead of his teens, that'd be perfect. But since it's a well known fact that he died in his teens, that's an option that's simply unavailable to him.

>>158534625

What "main subject" are you talking about? Anyone who's actually read GOA knows that it checks out when compared to Arthurian Mythos.

>>158534696

There is no "making shit up", GOA is consistent with arthurian mytholgoy and contains no contradictions. Unless Nasu magically discovered some new evidence that Caesarion died at 9, then his claim is a load of shit.

>>158534732

>Stop talking of shit you know nothing, the pegasus was born after medusa was killed. She never got the horse in myth.

That's exacty what i'm saying, Medusa lied about how she got the Pegasus to make herself look better.
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>>158535094
If they bring back the item gacha again then yes

I want all the QP and cubes I can get
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>>158535094
Yes. I need so much exp and QP.
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>>158535094
I firmly believe that everybody should have the opportunity to be visited by Santa Alter, so yes.
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The character backgrounds in status screens with the original VN along with various mythological nods do show that Nasu has always done some level of research. Granted, how much of that actually translates into a Servant's character as opposed to their legends just being used as stepping stones for what the writer really wants to do varies.

Hell, even just creating abilities and skillsets that have concrete basis in myth wasn't really much of a thing until Zero happened. Just look at Gil.
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>>158535094
Yes, I'm saving my apples for it. One of the best events we had for QP farming beside KNK.
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>>158535025
No.
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Reminder that if you haven't log in for at least 365 days straight you are a newfag and should fuck right off.
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>>158535361

What if emu block broke my login streak?
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>>158535361
Make me.
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>>158535129
>it's okay to use fate arthurian lore instead of the real arthurian lore because in my opinion it's a good representation
And that's the last (You) you're getting from me. You're clearly not the same guy who started all of this so go reread the entire conversation from the start and then go to bed.
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>>158528798
People that put Lv. 1 servants in their supports give me cancer
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>>158535646
I like having a few level 1 Servants in my friend list for the times when I feel like soloing a quest or two.
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>>158531852
Tamacat
LB Iri CE
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>>158528256
>Regarding that, it's blatently obvious that it's supposed to be queen elizabeth. They don't out right say it because they use a writing technique called "being subtle."
That was in Extra, in FGO, that's Francis Drake. It's in her profile and the excuse is the whole "well... her personality was more manly than her own men!" It's shit.
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UNF
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http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=59657338
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>>158535129
>still not showing proof that real Arthurian mythos had a real Arthur who was literally a dragon in human form

Well, that's it then.
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>>158528552
>People started reading F/SN because they heard it was done by the same author that did Tsukihime.
Not me, I don't give a fuck about Tsukihime. It's shit.
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>>158535918

I love Scath shishou so much, i want to marry her and have her train me so i can become big and strong.
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>>158536006
>Scath
Fuck off reddit.
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>>158535989
>Not me, I don't give a fuck about Tsukihime. It's shit.

He's talking about japanese readers on the game came out.

No one cares about turkeyhandle these days, not even Nasu.
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>>158536006
cuck
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>>158529727
Not really. That's why Fate sold more than Tsukishit ever did and why Fate gets 10000000000 spin offs and nobody gives a shit about Turklehandle not even Nasu.

Fate got popular because of Takeuchi's art (back then) and the designs, plus the concept. Fate concept is extremely popular. You can remove Nasu and people still buy it.
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First time it wasn't wasted on the last level
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>>158529848
Mahoyo failed because it wasn't Fate or had an ufotable show to shill it like KnK did.

I bet if Nasu suddenly made Waver or Rin cameo in there, it would sell twice as much.
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>>158528552
>People started reading F/SN because they heard it was done by the same author that did Tsukihime.
Nope! You are completely wrong there. People started reading F/SN because they heard it was done by the same ARTIST that did Tsukihime & Melty Blood.
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>>158535918
>>158536006
Kill yourselves.
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>>158536239
You know KnK predates the ufotable movies by almost 10 years right
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>Alex dropped Liz CE for the third time in a day
Based shota.
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>>158533821
>>158533880
Doesn't even make sense, because Medusa was supposed to understand Sakura perfectly. Turns out, unlike Sakura who was a rape victim, Grailed and mindbroken over this and had all evils in the world lurking in her soul, she was just a ragging cunt.
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>>158536239
It failed because it didn't have sex scenes and/or voice acting.
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a nip create a patreon for this game.

https://vectorspace.booth.pm/items/357080
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>>158533880
Sakura beat Medusa soundly in the 2012 Anniversary poll.
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>>158536087
It wasn't just the Tsukihime audience, anon. FSN sold much more than Tsukihime did, even on original release.
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>>158536342

Awww that made my day, she looks so cute.

>Scathach: remember to eat good, it is necessary to be well prepare for any battle.

I dont like vegetables =.=

>Scathach points gae bolg to me

Ok ok i'll eat them
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>>158536239
You do realize that Fate sold well before getting any anime, right? It got an anime because it sold well and thought the anime will sell itself even if DEEN made it low budget. It did just as expected.

KnK didn't original sell well, but after the Fate franchised boomed, the reprints sold good. This was before any of the ufotable movies though, so you are pulling shit out of your ass.

Mahoyo didn't sell well because it wasn't Takeuchi's art and it was a short and incomplete story. It's like they released 1/5 of Tsukihime as a full priced game, it's practically a rip off since it didn't have any voice acting or animated intros to match the price.
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>>158536295
And they weren't popular at all. Nobody gave a shit about KnK until ufo made movies about it. Even Nasu himself admits it that they took a shit tier mess and did something good with it.

>>158536423
Fate Strange Fake doesn't have sex scenes or voice acting. And it's selling nicely.
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>>158536580
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>>158536596

I'm not the first guy, i was just explaining his point, i actually agree that the setting and characters contributed more to the popularity than Nasu's name did.
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>>158536637
Are you perhaps lost?
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>>158536710
Fate Strange Fake isn't a VN, anon.
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>>158531520
I see nothing wrong here. Tamamo is as she should be, BLACKED.
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>>158536715
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>>158536706
>it didn't have any voice acting
To this day I still wonder how they thought this was remotely acceptable.
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>>158535606

Conceding then? Glad to see you've been englightened.

>>158535893

Francis Drake and Elizabeth switched places, there is no problem with extra rider being elizabeth while fgo rider is drake.

>>158535936

There's nothing in the original mythos that says he wasn't a dragon in human form. That is not the case with Caesarion since we know exactly when he died.
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>>158536796
>giving him a (You)
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>>158536913
>there is no problem with extra rider being elizabeth while fgo rider is drake.

Except that Francis Drake didn't have giant boobs like in FGO.
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>>158537036

Drake just got elizabeth's face and tits due to them switching places similar to how the hassans became black ghoul like creatures after becoming servants.
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>>158536903
They probably thought the formula they did with Fate would still work

Original release (no voice)
PS2 Release (+voice +new scenes +new op)
PSV Release (+full voice +newer scenes +newer op +minigames)
PS4Pro Release (+full voice +high-definition +newer scenes +newer op +minigames +vrsupport)

It was a bad choice.

>>158535893
>>158536913
If Drake and Elizabeth can switch places without anyone noticing, that means they look similar enough that if FGO Drake and EXTRA Drake are different people, you wouldn't even notice.
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>>158537230

>Francis Drake is the first great man who accomplished the circumnavigation while still alive (the very first, Magellan, died midway through). He was a man in historical fact, but Drake appears in this work as a woman. This is caused by the fact how nobody in her surroundings saw Drake as a woman. According to a sailor, 「Ergh, we cannot call ourselves men if we look the captain as a woman; or rather, it would be rude towards her.」

She was clearly a woman while in life, by your logic she'd have been summoned as a man since that's how her men and history remembered her.
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>>158537532

Literally all he had to do was put on a wig, no obe would be able to tell the difference with the scar
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Since some are talking about myths and their difference with the fate "canon". Does anyone know why the Benkei in Fate is not the "real one"?
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>>158537732

>He was a man in historical fact, but Drake appears in this work as a woman.

Their saying that before drake became a servant, he was a man but to the body double fuckery he gets elizabeth's face and tits due to the same reason that hans is a shota.
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>>158536913
>Francis Drake and Elizabeth switched places, there is no problem with extra rider being elizabeth while fgo rider is drake.

That makes no fucking sense.

There is one, fucking ONE line in the entirety of all work related to Drake that mentions Queen Elizabeth, and it very fucking explicitly notes that it is fabrication ("あくまで創作にすぎないが.") Any implications that could be drawn from that line have been thoroughly and completely ignored since then, but here you're suggesting some kind of otherwise unseen mechanic (A single identical Servant being two entirely different people rather than different aspects of the same person or what ifs) to wank a reason for why that very vague red herring is anything but that.

No, it's Drake. It's definitely just Drake.
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>>158537789

They might be planning a 4* or 5* real benkei in the future.
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>>158537789
He took on Benkei's identity and went around spreading stories of Benkei.
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>>158537904

That's not what her profile says, it says she was woman but her men treated her like a man.

>「Ergh, we cannot call ourselves men if we look the captain as a woman; or rather, it would be rude towards her.」
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>>158537904
No? It means history recorded Drake as a man when he was in fact a woman. You have a testimony from one of her crewmates right there saying she was a woman but they never called her one because it would be disrespectful towards her.
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>>158537905

I am not saying they are two different people, im saying that the reason drake is a woman as a servant is due to the body double switching which affected drake's appearences similar to how hassan looks different in life compared to his servant self.
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>>158537904
>If Drake and Elizabeth can switch places without anyone noticing, that means they look similar enough that if FGO Drake and EXTRA Drake are different people, you wouldn't even notice.

How the fuck does that even work? You're inventing an altogether new summoning system and heroic spirit here just to justify wank.

>Their saying that before drake became a servant, he was a man but to the body double fuckery he gets elizabeth's face and tits due to the same reason that hans is a shota.

Drake does not have Innocent Monster nor is there ever any reason whatsoever, from her or anyone else, to believe she hasn't always looked like that.
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>>158538005
>>158538037

That crew mate was reffering to elizabeth at that point, drake's profile literally says he was a man in life but is a woman as a servant.
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>>158538038
>im saying that the reason drake is a woman as a servant is due to the body double switching which affected drake's appearences similar to how hassan looks different in life compared to his servant self.

Which you're pulling out of your ass. Absolutely everything else in every last written piece of text in the franchise contradicts this.
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>>158538191

Why doesn't her profile mention Elizabeth at all then?
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>>158538191
>That crew mate was reffering to elizabeth at that point

Based on what?

>drake's profile literally says he was a man in life

This is flat out lying. You're making shit up, or fucking illiterate. It very explicitly says that the historical Drake was male, but that the one in Fate was a woman and that everyone around her treated her as a man because of her demeanor.
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>>158538191
>crew mate was reffering to elizabeth
How about no? It doesn't say anything at all about her, and even if by some miracle he was, Drake and Elizabeth had to be both woman and look pretty much the same for the switch to even work, so it's literally the same thing.
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>>158538151
>>158538227
>>158538396

>He was a man in historical fact, but Drake appears in this work as a woman.

It's really simple, he was a man in life but when he became a servant he gained Elizabeth's appearence due to how summoning a servant works. The switching feat changed his appearence similiar to what happened to Hassan as seen in pic related.

>>158538351

Because it's the profile for "Francs drake" not "Queen Elizabeth"
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>>158538396
It can also be read as "Drake was recorded as male in historical fact because she was treated as such, but she's actually a woman".

But no matter how you cut it, it's clear from her profile that Nasuverse Drake was a woman in life.
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>>158535025
I used a buster buff to see if illya can do a huge amount of damage.

She did around 215k of damage with 4 busters buffs so no
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>3000 Prisms

Will I make it before time is up lads?
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>>158538458
>It's really simple

Yes it is, you're an idiot making shit up with not a single sliver of proof to back it up.

You're writing fanfiction substantiated by nothing, and deliberately ignoring what the text says.
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>>158538458
>Because it's the profile for "Francs drake" not "Queen Elizabeth"

Then why would the sailor talk about Elizabeth then?
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>>158538520
If you skip buying Fous for the next couple months, easily
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Does anyone have the myroom theme?
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@158538458
Oh look, it's the same baiter from before. Nothing to see here people.
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>>158538038
>hassan looks different in life

Hassan does not look different from when he was alive. He looks different from when he became the Old Man in the Mountain and erased his own fucking face to embrace the role. Are you retarded or what, it's in his own backstory.
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>>158536710
>Even Nasu himself admits it that they took a shit tier mess and did something good with it.
I don't know how he can say that after the 6th movie.
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>>158537789
He's an obscure character that was said to have fought alongside Benkei, but he's barely mentioned and may not have really existed. The idea here is that he ran off and felt ashamed and later took over for Benkei who he saw as a real hero to spread his legend.
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>>158536710
Fate Strange Fake is a series piggybacking off both a successful franchise and a successful author
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>mfw don't get enough arts cards killing homunculus to charge NP
>Chimeras crit my entire team to death
fuck, first time this happened, usually I can wipe them out with a NP
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>>158538546

When the profile says "historical fact", its talking about the nasuverse. Why the fuck would they mention real world in a fate bio?

>>158538578

Think of it this way: If Big Boss had a fate profile and the person was actually Venom Snake, it wouldnt say it was venom because it would defeat the purpose.

>>158538701

What does erasing his face have to do with his entire body getting blackened?
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>>158538926
Critmeras are cancerous.
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>>158536472

>Implying you can beat my high score
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>>158533510
But Perseus is literally Shinji with a different hair color. You can't deny that.
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>>158538926
>fags complain about eyeball, bicorns, springgan or soul eater

Chimeras and dragons are still the worst bosses. Them and the elusive huge ghost that fucks everything.
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>>158538947

>The legendary king of Britain, also known as the King of Knights. Artoria is her childhood name and, upon being raised as a king, she began to be called King Arthur. In an age when chivalry had lost its beauty, with a holy sword in her hands, she brought about a brief moment of peace and final prosperity to Britain. Historicaly recorded as a man, but it seems that in this world she was a cross-dressing beauty.

>Historicaly recorded as a man, but it seems that in this world she was a cross-dressing beauty.

I guess Saber switched with Morgan too.
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>>158539070
are you blind or joking
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>>158538947
>Why the fuck would they mention real world in a fate bio?

Because the profiles do that all the time. They're trivia for the player. Gilgamesh's profile in CCC even mentions the historical, not-at-all sparkly flying-ship-having Gilgamesh.

You're a fucking idiot.
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>>158539070
Shinji is oily and obnoxious. Perseus is actually popular because he's well liked and helpful as classmate.
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Why's Cleo's np so weak.
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>>158539126
>I guess Saber switched with Morgan

You know lad that would explain for so much
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>>158539070
Why is he rocking the Tohno Shiki blue and orange look
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>>158533510
Poseidon couldn't have raped Medusa because

>Nasu never mentioned it
>Athena cursed Medusa because she was jealous of her beauty
>Medusa already had Pegasus before she died
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>>158539261
>AoE Assassin
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>>158539126

Key word "in this world", they are clearly sepereating the nasuverse and out world.

>>158539197

>one example is "all the time"
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>>158539267

It would be interesting at least.

>Saber was a shit king because Morgan replaced her and fucked everything on purpose
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>>158539110
spriggans and eyeballs can be pretty bad if you're forced to take something that isn't good against them like in the swimsuit event
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>>158539270
>implying Takeuchi can into colors
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>>158539389
>Key word "in this world"

>but Drake appears in this work as a woman.

Take your last (You).
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>>158539261
you're not BBCing right
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>>158539423
But they are always put alone or with an useless mook. Chimeras are usually put in trio or duos which fuck you up. And dragons are the worst with their attacks.
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>>158539389
>>one example

Moving the goalposts.

It's obvious you're just a retard writing fanfiction at this point. Fuck off.
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S a k u r a

W H E N
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Based Uncle Man Diaz.
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>>158539552
I'm not saying they're worse than chimeras because I had to use fucking command spells for the first time due to their bullshit, but they're pretty terrible in their own right
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>>158536472
This is so fucking cool holy shit.
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Will Ishtar and Pravati both be 5 stars? Or could DW make one of them 4 stars just to bait people more plus the shitposting
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>>158539968
Parvati could be a one star for all I care, I just want her in the game and released so I can get her.
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>>158532143
>but as you can see this is what Hassan looks like

That was Ufotable sprinkling together a few drawings from shit you could find with a five second google search. There is no canonical mandate involved.

>Hundred Faced was confirmed to be a female when she was alive.

There is no information as to what Hundred Face was really like. The female is just the personality that's good at administrating the others, there's no indication of which of them looks like the real person.

You're fucking arguing that the Zero ending showed all characters from Zero... and then randomly spliced in True Assassin from FSN for absolutely no reason.

This is all bullshit.
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>>158538926
Dragons are the most cancerous because they hit everyone in your front row 3 times.

Shit sucks when you want to farm with a zerker team.
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Is the ROMA-Egyptian dynasty a huge fucked up attempt to make everyone related?

Cleopatra considers Iskandar, not just Ptolemy her "ancestor." And she and Ceasar are the linking point between their bloodlines. From the Egyptian/Macedonian side, would include Iskandar and all his heroes, the pharaohs and thus also Moses by adoption in turn will be related to David and Solomon. Ceasar comes from Romulus and includes all Roman heroes, Nero and Caligula and Lucius, plus the Brits ones. Artoria and Nero are said to have an ancestor (likely Augustus), so all Pendragons clusterfuck (Artoria, Morgan, Mordred, Agravain, Gawain and all the rest of the siblings) are related to them.
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>>158540256
This is the most fucked up extended family ever.
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>>158539724
I'll never forget the surprise Archer Dragon in Saber Wars. When I ventured with a team of Sabers. Because of the changing class bullshit.
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>>158539968
I can see them being 4* given that Emiya Alter, if he really is Shirou, is likely to be the 5* of the FSN trio.
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>>158540256
>Shirou marries Arturia and adds the Emiyas into it

Gil can fuck off.
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>>158540256
You're sperging out in a bit of semantics. Her using that word does not mean she's a direct blood successor and most of the links you mentioned are bullshit things Nasu never said, like Nero and Arturia having a blood relation.
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>r/grandorder/ is populated by morons trying to be ~wacky~.
>/fgog/ is constantly embroiled in autistic arguments nobody gives a fuck about.
>Beasts Lair is 80% morons, 15% egotistical blowhards, and 5% actually decent posters.

Why isn't there a single place on the internet where you can actually talk about this game civilly?
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>>158540347
I think that was valentines event. Dragons are just bullshit in general.
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>>158540454
>あとはまあ、アーサー王のモデルは二人いるのが通説とされ、そのうちの一人、アルトリウスはローマ帝国から派遣された将軍なので、まあ、繋がりはあるといえばある。

She is connected to Rome. Roma acknowledges Artoria (Lancer) as his child too. And in Arthuriana, Constantine, was from Britain, if you weren't aware. When Arthur defeats Lucius, he becomes Emperor of the Western Roman Empire.
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>>158540564
Yes, you are right. It was Valentines.
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>>158540519
One of the many mysteries of life. Doesn't help people from BL and Reddit come here all the time and act like they own the place.
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>>158540256
With Iskandar it's not that he's her ancestor, it's that he's the one who paved the way for her dynasty and the egypt she knows. It's thanks to him that all of it was possible. In a way, it was their inheritance as Alexander's close companion.
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>>158540519

What do you want to talk about anon?
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Need help on deciding which lancer to use
Elizabeth
Li Shuwen
Seig
Vlad
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>>158541059
Vlad
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>>158541059

Fionn not Seig
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>>158541059
Not Elizabeth
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>>158541059

Shumeme if you are an arts memer, Vlad if you are Rad.

Welfare Lancer when and who?
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>>158540909
Honestly, I'm pretty cool with what goes on in here when there isn't a neverending argument or an attention whore shitposter trying to grab (you)s.

Be nice if there were more people trying to summarize stuff too. There are so many posters here, surely Summary Anon and I can't be the only ones who can do this.
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>>158541059
Cu
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>>158541284

Is Vlad's defense buff good enough to invest in ?
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>>158540519
Facebook's FGO English Community is pretty good anon.
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>>158541395

I honestly have no idea, but there's no way he's worse than Liz and Fionn.
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>>158541443
Liz is great now though. She has Jeanne Alter's buff but better.
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>>158541479

She might be an okeh support, but i wouldn't call her great until they fix her np.
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>>158541305
Well then I'd like a summary. Naturally I couldn't read shit, but one of the final Camelot cutscenes had some fuckawesome CGs. What was happening? It looked like Ozzy dropped his entire pyramid on Artoria and she blew it up.
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>>158541556

how good is vlad's NP compared to hers then ?
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>Have to choose between leveling Brave and Alter
>Alter is a slightly more badass version of mai waifu in a nice dress but still has the very original, awkward animations and a wave clear NP when I have multiple wave clear Sabers
>Don't give a fuck about Liz but she has prettier lights and a good NP

I can't fucking decide. This is killing me.
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>>158541583
Rhongomyniad barrier, they couldn't get through, Ozy lost the Dendera vs Rhon beam battle, crashed his temple into the tower to take down the shields so your rag-tag team of rebels can infiltrate the tower.
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>>158541606

I haven't used him a lot yet but he has a single target with 600% multiplier and she has an AoE 300% that can't kill hands at NP3 with maxed skills.
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>>158541728
Why not both?
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>>158541728
Liz is mediocre, any 4* saber besides Siegfried and Lily are better than her. Go with Alter.
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>>158540519
>Why isn't there a single place on the internet where you can actually talk about this game civilly?
Go back in time to old /fgog/.
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>>158541583
I've been juggling various My Room lines and old Order summaries for a while with college, work, and other translation efforts so I'd personally rather not add the giant walls of text that are Acts 13, 16, and 17 of Camelot to my plate. Kind of goes against my principles as a translator too, since personally I hate shifting from translator to translator when I'm reading something.

But the scripts have been out for months and all of the people who said they were working on it seem to have changed their minds. God fucking damnit, I'll see what I can do.
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>>158541860
You sound like a little whiny bitch. Fuck off.
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>>158542054
Fuck you
>>158541860
Please do translate more shit. If not past stuff, please prepare to translate Babylon.
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>>158541860
I think it's probably best to finish what you're working on first. Someone else might pick up the remaining chapters in the meantime. Besides we already roughly know what goes on in those chapters, it's just that no one has put together a very short and concise summary anyone can point to yet.
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>>158541772
Because I have other Servants to level and I'd rather mix it up than rush two Sabers.
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>>158542217
>Babylon

It's 1.5x Camelot's length, or so I heard. That's going to be a pretty tremendous undertaking, or at least it's the size of a small visual novel all on its own.

Not envying the anon who takes on that task, to be honest.
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>>158540256
That's kinda how it's work, but a bit exagerated.
Leaders always connect themselves to a prestigious dynasty (even if they have to fake it).
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>F/GO will never have a full translation

I love these characters so much. Every event would be so much more fun if I could understand them.
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>>158542753
Don't rule out a Western release. The English-speaking market is big, tapping it would be lucrative for DW.
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>>158542890
>Don't rule out a Western release.
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>>158525529
I want to dip my chinpo in chocolate and let her suck it all off.
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>Babylon it's going to be 1k pages long
I wonder if at least it's going to give 30 quartz of only story quests
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>>158542753
>event
Almost every event story is shit. Only main story matters.
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Silvers need like... a flat +500/+500 and bronze cards need +1000/+1000 when you make them gold... Just to even the field a little bit. Also F2P and I was never expecting to roll another SSR again
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>>158543330
I don't doubt it, but shit like EMIYA's reaction to seeing Rider Alter would be funnier if I could understand it all.
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>>158543330
Boy I love reading about memelion and Muslim refugees!
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>>158542890
Maybe but unlikely. FGO English just wouldn't pull the numbers. There are dedicated fans and while Fate has a decent following among geeks, they'd have to think of casual mobile game players.
Plus, they might not get a lot of switchovers from the Japanese servers if they don't offer a way to keep your current account.
>>
Can't the just make an English language option like Granblue?
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>>158542890
Assuming they're not completely retarded, they likely know they have a lot of players outside of Japan. Players that wouldn't bother switching to a different language of the game if it means losing all our lv 100 Servants. Maybe they'd pick up some new less weaboo players, but I doubt it'd be worth it. We're feeding them enough.
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>>158543324
Number of quartz given won't change by much. There's just more text in between nodes, or less nodes in comparison to stuff like Rome.
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>>158541812
Why are people trying to force this meme so hard? She's only outdone by Saberlot because he actually has a good skillset unlike every other 4* Saber. 4* Sabers in general are just so mediocre that a Buster ST Servant with an average skillset outdoes them all. Don't even try to say that Alter's AoE is better than NP5 ST, Alterfags seem to love throwing bullshit out there.
>>
>>158543408
>>158543649
>not enough switchovers
Well, they would have faced the same problem of switchovers with China but still launched to great success anyway. It seems to be making bank. Since the English-speaking market is bigger than both China and Japan, it would definitely be worth it.
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If we're talking about translation then there's the freshly baked ch.46 of Riyo's comic
>>158543695
I remember Camelot having 17 chapters with the last 5 or so being splitted in 2~3 parts, with each one giving quartz
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>>158543956
Riyo's servant confirmed
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>>158543956
Bunny Napoleon confirmed? Dammit /fgog/.
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>>158543358
>Grailing Kuro
>Grailing two Archers
Gross
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>>158543956
Huh, you're right. The quartz per chapter goes like this:

Fuyuki - 9 quartz
Orleans - 14 quartz
Rome - 14 quartz
Okeanos - 13 quartz
London - 12 quartz
America - 21 quartz
Camelot - 30 quartz

America and Camelot were longer and gives more quartz.
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>>158543820
Not that anon, but I honestly think Liz it's nothing special as her strong point is NP5 with a 40% card buff.
Her third skill honestly asks way too much for only one effect and even if each one of them aren't bad at all it's the fact that they're choosen by RNG that kills it
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>>158544292
This better for you, fucker?
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>>158543221
Not a good idea, she will chomp it out
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>>158544339
Counting free quests?
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>>158544363
And what make Alter better than her when she get a fucking Instinct in her skillset?
NP5>NP1
ST>AoE
Invul>Charisma E
Liz meme effect>14 fucking stars
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>>158544465
now add kojirou
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>>158544562
No, this is just from story. Free is:

Fuyuki - 9 quartz
Orleans - 10 quartz
Rome - 11 quartz
Okeanos - 12 quartz
London - 9 quartz
America - 14 quartz
Camelot - 14 quartz
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>>158544819
>Camelot'a story gave 30 Quartz
>Babylon is 1.5 times as long
If DW doesn't go full Jew we could get a lot of Quartz
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>>158544819
>London - 9 quartz
It always triggers my autism when patterns are ruined like this.
>>
http://cp.fate-go.jp/fate/nero/
>>
http://cp.fate-go.jp/fate/nero/
>>
>>158545056
>>158545065
>12 quartz
>get it after Cleo gacha ended
>>
https://exhentai.org/g/990164/5afe18dad3/

Aw yeah
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>>158545065
>>158545056
>Qp

more bastards
>>
>>158545415
gays out
>>
>>158545056
>>158545065
Who will rig this for us now that Mafia isn't doing the streams anymore?
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>>158545065
>12 quartz
>No mafia to rig the games and give more quartz
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>>158543820
>Why are people trying to force this meme so hard

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it a meme lad. Liz can't make stars,unlike other Welfares she can't go completely memetastic because Buster NP plus her NP Gain is decidedly average to the point of being unreliable with one skill actually taking away 100% bar.

For the major part she's built like the 5* Casters we've been seeing. Utterly unoptimal and not the quite suitor you want for of the class and what special shit she attempts to do is just a mess. She is decidedly mediocre and lots of other Servants will outdo her regularly.
>>
>get new mashu CE which is disgusting
>would be fine with anything other that that
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>>158543820
Even Bedivere out-damages her, Lizfag, and he's a 3*. Saber Liz just only edges out Saber Lily and Irisviel as one of the worse welfares.
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>>158545821
>Irisviel
>bad
fuck off, memezerkerfag
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>>158545865
>needing to heal

Git gud.
>>
>>158545821

>implying Bedivere isn't better than most Sabers
>Saber Liz worse than Scat, Caster Liz and Nobu

(You)
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>>158545689
>unlike other Welfares she can't go completely memetastic
Wow just like Santa Alter right?

>For the major part she's built like the 5* Casters we've been seeing. Utterly unoptimal and not the quite suitor you want for of the class
>number of ST Buster Saber=2
>number of ST Buster Saber with actual NP5=1

>tl;dr if she can't do special thing she is shit
Sounds like Saber Alter,oh wait,she is so special amirite :^)
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>>158545935
>Scat: makes stars
>Caster Liz: makes stars and has guts
>Nobu: crits really hard
>Saber Liz: reduces 100% NP for RNG shit
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>>158545935
>NP1 3* better than anyone
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>>158545908
>forgetting those meme instant death effects of hard challenges

You're retarded. It's her free guts what makes her useful. Any retard can smash their way through easy challenges. Irisviel has a niche no other Servant has. She's not to be used on brainless quests, of course, but she's not bad.
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>>158545449
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>>158546048
>instant death hard challenges that only happened literally once in more than a year of the game running
>literally less than 1% of actual game content

I bet you call Amakuso useful because he could debuff shit during those """hard""" quests too.
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>>158545821
>Bedivere
Good luck on getting NP5.
Also NP5 Bedivere outdamage Lancelot too :^)
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>>158545821
>Even Bedivere out-damages her,
That's not really a surprise considering bedi can shit out huge damage with a npbbc with just np1

imagine if we could actually get bedi to np5 reliably. He'd do more damage than 5*s.
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>>158546019

>i'll ignore the possible effects just to call it shit and i'll also ignore her other skills and ST NP

>>158546021

Then i guess he's worse than Liz too :^)
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>>158546112
At least I beat Herc and Gil in those challenge quests, Melvin.
>>
>>158546123
>>158546153
BEDIVIERE RATE UP WHEN
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>>158544672
I didn't say that Alter is better and I'm not the first anon, I just said that Liz it's nothing amazing.
Of course I'm not with the meme that only Sieg and Lily are worse than her
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>>158546012
>Wow just like Santa Alter right?

Santa Alter is capable of going memetastic because she's a Rider,has high star gen with Buster up and increases her own Star production without sacrificing anything.

>number of ST Buster Saber=2
Not like it was a niche that had to be filled in the first place. Almost everyone well dipped in the game prefers Arts or Quick NPs unless we're talking about Avengers,Rulers,Berserkers or just anything with 3 Main deck Buster cards.

>Sounds like Saber Alter,oh wait,she is so special amirite
She is actually because she's a 4* who performs like a 5* and most basically does what a Saber does.

Nigger if you just want to say "No" just say No but don't feed me your bullshit.
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>>158545650
12 is the rigged maximum amount, they could just give 2 from snake eyes.
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>>158546170
>he thinks spending 100% NP for an uncertain result isn't shit
>thinks a lower than average Buster up is good, when Alter has a much better Mana Burst
>thinks a invincibility skill with a NP gain up tacked on is good, when it forces you to use one or the other making it less optimum at all times
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>>158546436
What is that thing?
>>
>>158546153
Is this for real or does this require a shitton of setting up?
>>
>>158546436

Is that Chang'e?
>>
How do you guys think about the vita version of extella compared to the PS4 ?
With the bad graphisms, the vita may look better but are you afraid the game will not be fluid enought ?
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>>158546521
Not that anon but

>50 stars
>invul for your whole team
>3000 heal for all allies
>50% buster buff or damage buff

Even if it's uncertain all the effects are really good.
>>
>>158546601
Kaguya-hime for Dangos: Current Year edition
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>>158546436
That thing looks like the result of locking Medb and a huge yellow rabbitman in a room together.
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>>158546687
I don't think you want an heal when you have to burst the enemy
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>>158546521
>when Alter has a much better Mana Burst
>implying AoE NP1 is better than NP5 ST

Love this meme
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>>158545056
>>158545065
Really surprised we're getting that just a couple of months after Japan does, while fucking Persona 5 takes almost half a year. Dub only is a fucking mistake.
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>>158546554
He only does about 51k with his NP at NP5, Lv 10 military tactics and 300% overcharge. Without massive crit damage up he'll be lucky to break 100k total on a BBC chain.

On the other hand Liz does around 52k with just her second buster buff maxed, not counting her getting lucky with her third skill. She also doesn't need to overcharge to 300% to pull it off.
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>>158546914
>hating dubs
XSeed is going to regret their decision to drop the dub. Yeah, you might be able to release it more quickly after the JP release ,but at the same time you are pushing away half your customers with this. I could give two fucks if it came out later for other regions as long as it was dubbed.
>>
>>158547146
It definitely won't
>>
>>158547146
t. amerifat
>>
>>158547146
>you are pushing away half your customers with this
No fucking way. Anyone who is planning on getting Extella is someone who doesn't care about whether it is dubbed or not.
>>
>>158547146
>Half your customers
You aren't even their target market in the first place.
>>
All I know is my best Saber was Fergus before, and now I have a 4* single-target NP5 Liz. She's something my lineup needed badly.
>>
>>158547146
>half your customers
>Dud faggots
Yeah no, they're just a couple of tumblrinos.
DUb shits fuck off
>>
>>158542890
>the English market is big
It took forever for FGO to hit the 5mil DL milestone, it's mostly supported my a small number of nip whales and DW knows that
>>
>>158546521
Alter's charisma and instinct are literally far worse than any of brave Liz's skills and an invul skill is always good, having two ways to use it only makes it more flexible and usable.
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>>158547146
Found you.

Also the braindamage anon's twitter.
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>>158547565
>there's "people" who legitimately want cringy english voices in their chinky games
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>>158547487
>forever
5 million half a year after release is a lot. Granblue didn't hit 10 until its 2nd anniversary. And that's the biggest mobage out there.
>>
>>158547235
>>158547306
>>158547339
>>158547472
Look at the demand for a dub from the English-speaking fans when Aksys axed the Blazblue dub. For sure there is huge demand for dubs in the Western market.

Extella would certainly do a lot better by casting famous Western voice actors such as Crispin Freeman, Wendee Lee and Kari Wahlgreen for their star power to draw more fans to the game. That they didn't is a huge missed opportunity.
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>>158547565
I never thought I would see the day where brain problems Nerofag is replying to someone more retarded than him.
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>>158547565
>dainbramage
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>>158547565
That's not me, but that just shows there's plenty of fans like me who are turned off by the lack of a dub. Half their customers wasn't an exaggeration.
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>Currrently banned from PSN for some credit bullshit because bank doesn't like PSN, try to contact PSN
>"You have to pay $90 on PSN cards to unlock the ability to pay $60 to unban your account"

Enjoy Extella, guys. I'll just watch gameplay videos. This does not please me. This does not please me at all.
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>>158547937
>>"You have to pay $90 on PSN cards to unlock the ability to pay $60 to unban your account"
What the hell
>>
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>>158547649
>Extella would certainly do a lot better by casting famous Western voice actors
>Because that would be totally cheap
>Why aren't they using these options that would take a shitload of cash?

They could dump for good VAs which just wouldn't be worth it, or buy shitty VAs that would just turn people away for a different reason.
>>
>>158545065
Fate/Grand Order will be holding a livestream in regards to Fate/Extella on November 2 at 19:00 - 21:00 JST.

Retweeting during the livestream will yield rewards:
5000 retweets: 12m QP
10k retweets: 4 Gold Apples
15k retweets: 1 Summoning Ticket
20k retweets: 12 Quartz
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>>158548056
>15k retweets: 1 Summoning Ticket
>1
>ONE

So 5 singles if we're really lucky.
>>
> Playing Rani route with Archer in EXTRA
> After you beat Arcrueid, she returns to normal and thanks you
Neat
>>
>>158548018
Having a dub would draw in more money than they would spend on doing it. Don't forget Western VAs also have their own following, and they do promote the products they appear in to their fans.

This was Fate's chance to appeal to a bigger audience in the West by capitalizing on the fans who joined the series after watching the great Zero and UBW dubs.
>>
>>158547649
>Blazblue dub
>Some vocal facebook fans and fans of shit VA's like Seitz
>Wanting fighting games dubbed in 2016
That was the worst example you could've brought, the game will sell just like the previous ones, it's a fucking fighting game.
>>
>>158548056
>5000 retweets: 12m QP

I need it
>>
>>158547986
My account is apparently locked after I bought a game but my bank said "fuck you" and pulled back the charges because now I understand why they hate PSN. Then I got the bank to send back the charges. Then PSN said they wouldn't accept the money back until I payed $90 for... Something. They didn't even say what it was, and that one game was the only thing I've ever bought digitally on PSN.

So basically, greedy faggots.
>>
>>158547649
>famous Western voice actors such as Crispin Freeman, Wendee Lee and Kari Wahlgreen
literally who?
>>
>>158548205
It's because it's a fucking fighting game that the hardcore players will just buy the JP version instead of the US version if there is no dub. US version becomes an albatross around the neck, just like Extella's US version is gonna be. Besides the VN story is a pretty important part of Blazblue, tossing the dub here along with all the fan favourite VAs ticked off a lot of fans.
>>
>>158548179
I concede, those are good points. But that's still acting on the assumption that it would sell well enough to cover the cost. Which it might. But we obviously can't know yet.
>>
>>158548210
Don't get your hopes up, it's 2m * dice roll and that's the best possible scenario.
>>
>>158548261
>Crispin Freeman literally who?
>not recognizing the voice of Kotomine Kirei.
>>
>>158548110
Even the nips laught at DW jewery
>>
>>158548312
how new are you?
they always rig it
>>
>>158548272
>It's because it's a fucking fighting game that the hardcore players will just buy the JP version instead of the US version
So you're agreeing with me then?
>Besides the VN story is a pretty important part of Blazblue,
>Playing BB for the story

>tossing the dub here along with all the fan favourite VAs ticked off a lot of fans.
A vocal minority, probably tumblrinos who don't even play the game.
So no, fuck you.
>>
>>158548343
>no Mafia
>no Taneda
Don't count on it anymore.
>>
>>158548272
Oh yeah sure I LOVE having to wait 4 extra months for a game to come out over here and then having a dated version for EVO because of a dub
>>
>>158548381
>no Nobunaga

shit youre right
>>
>>158548179
>UBW dub
>great
Nice joke, buddy
>>
>>158548340
>not recognizing the voice of Kotomine Kirei.
Is that how you spell 中田 譲治 in English?
>>
>>158548179
You don't know shit about marketing.

You basically want western voice actors to play the roles of characters they likely don't know shit about, and are implying they could sell them better than their Japanese counterparts who practically sell their character. For a game that sells to a NICHE market overseas of which a dub would only increase sales for special snowflakes like you among an already small crowd of consumers.

Part of the reason why these games sell in the first place is because of their seiyuus to begin with. You're implying that a western VA can do a better job performing the roles of whom Sakura Tange and Chiwa Saito for example have made of their characters. You would completely ruin their character by taking away their original VAs when they've already built up an image with them.
>>
>>158548381
> tfw no RURU BREAKA
why has god abandoned us
>>
Isn't it past midnight in Murrica?
Who let these dubshit faggot niggerettes in?
>>
>>158548272
Fighting games need simultaneous, or near simultaneous releases, or then the west just won't care, because big fucking surprise, if one region gets more lab time than another, they have an innate edge. Not to mention Blazblue fucking loves shitting out a new iteration every year, so they're always behind. And the story is fucking abysmal in that game now anyway, even Guilty Gear is more comprehensible. No one gets what the fuck is going on in BB anymore, not even Mori.
>>
>>158548381
Shit stream from the start, not gonna watch it.
>>
>>158548389
Thank you.

...Unless it's P4U 2.0
RIP
>>
>>158546601
>Chang'e
Grand Archer Hou Yi when?
>>
>>158548458
They did a pretty good job performing in the Zero and UBW animes, at least on par with their Japanese counterparts.

Besides this would serve to introduce the characters with English voices to a new audience who didn't experience the Japanese voices before. Nothing stopping the Western VAs from building up a new fanbase, like how Yuri Lowenthal and Johnny Yong Bosch are famous for their roles in Code Geass, and having everyone profit.
>>
>>158548498
Fucking this, every single fucking year this has happened to BB and half of the reason we're even getting the game early this year is because they finally cut the fat of the English dub
>>
>>158548571
>>158548571
Migrate whenever
>>
>>158548498
I've tried playing some BlazBlue games but I literally can't understand what's going on.
>>
>>158519803
Pure slut, right?
>>
>>158548581
>animes
>dubfag
Of course
>>
>>158548498
>>158548583

https://www.change.org/p/aksys-games-support-the-dub-for-blazblue-central-fiction
>>
>>158548498
>And the story is fucking abysmal in that game now anyway, even Guilty Gear is more comprehensible. No one gets what the fuck is going on in BB anymore, not even Mori.
That's what Mori gets for making a shit-ton of side stories just to understand the story. I hope they shit on him even more for it.
>>
>>158548581
Who are you going to introduce these characters to overseas in a niche market? Do you not understand what a niche market is?

Do you really think a musou game like Extella is the kind of game that people, and I mean a SIZEABLE amount of people to warrant a dub, who don't know shit about the series are going to break their wallets out for?
>>
>>158548664
Yeah no, fuck that trainwreck, mediocre shit ass dub
>>
>>158548614
I've been playing since Calamity Trigger and I have no clue myself. Evidently they expect me to read the side material like the yuri pandering manga and shit.

Just go with Guilty Gear if you want a somewhat comprehensible, but still very obtuse story. Blazblue is some Kingdom Hearts level of bullshit.
>>
>>158548680
Tell that to the countless dubbed Japanese games that are released overseas and do well every year.
>>
>>158547565
>look at me I'm brain damaged and stupid xDD
holy shit that nerofag is really retarded, he should go to reddit
>>
>>158548680
Hell hasn't normal Dynasty Warriors abandoned dubs now too? At the very least Empires did, it's just not worth it to put the extra money when people only care about gameplay for these sorts of games.

Most of you niggers wanting dubs should read a fucking book anyway, this is a good start.
>>
>>158548821
I'm no native english speaker, but for some kind of games like middle age inspired ones I wish they were more dubs in my language.
>>
>Wanting dubs
>With the VA strike going on
GUYS DONT BE SILLY
>>
>>158524940
dumb burguer
>>
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The beginning of the (very long) end
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>spent 400 quartz for Cleo and no luck
which one of these assholes do I lvl up
>>
>>158540845
>people from BL and Reddit come here all the time and act like they own the place.
Nice. Maybe with those losers here, this general becomes less shitty
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