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Console Lobby password is always vidya
PC Lobby Naming Convention: /Blaz/ (Region) (East/West)

> NEWS
- Japanese and Hong Kong (with English text) CF console versions are out.
- CF will be released on November 1st in the US and November 4th in Europe.
- Blazblue Variable Heart, a new manga starring Mai, is currently being published.
- XBlaze Code Embryo, XBlaze Lost Memories and Chronophantasma Extend are available on Steam.
- Es DLC will be available to download for free 1 week after the US release.
- Mai DLC has been released in Japan, will be available from November 1st in the US.
- CF demo available in US PSN from October 11th; does not include Es or Mai.

> USEFUL LINKS
- Match Videos
http://pastebin.com/e119EKtk
- News, Guides, Combo Listings
http://www.dustloop.com/forums/
http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
- Story Stuff
http://blazblue.wikia.com/wiki/BlazBlue_Wiki
- Other Media (Remix Heart, Variable Heart, Soundtracks, Bururaji, etc)
http://pastebin.com/eJRLZkYz
- Player List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PaARR543UOJHThsb4ly4Sr--0wj24yj1hoHpkEPmCjc/edit?pli=1#gid=0
-Frame data/hitbox viewer
http://boxdox-bb.dantarion.com
-/blaz/ Discord
https://discord.gg/DKTKFMg
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>In the epilogue, while Jin has recovered enough for it not be any problem in daily life, he is unable to fight anymore.
>A desire Mori has is to make a reconstruction of the first BlazBlue(CT), whatever it’s an OVA, Movie or Novel. It’s not like he think the previous work is a failure, but more like ”It would better if it was more like this”.
>And Mori thinks it’s for the best to not write a story for Jin, Tsubaki and the rest of what happens after BBCF.
http://amatsumugi89.tumblr.com/
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>Mai (vs Susanoo): No good, I somehow defeated him, but I feel like I can’t win once more. Just who is this person...
>Susanoo (vs Mai): Don’t fight back. You can’t accomplish anything with that weak grimoire. There is only one option left for you, and that is destruction.
>Mai (vs Es): My grimoire is resonating...? Just, who are you...?
>Mai (vs Taokaka) Eh? Food? Huh... Your personality is quite different from a Kaka that I know of...
http://amatsumugi89.tumblr.com/
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>>158467015
Oh god please not another anime Mori. Just remake the CT story mode in the style of CF, plus a shitton more cg's.

>>158466827
Yeah, it must have more to do with that Trinity deal than what Rags did. Maybe Kokonoe will be nice to him and fish Susanoo out of the boundary again.
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>>158467112
What I find ironic is that Jin went into the Susanoo because his body could no longer fight after passing through the Boundary.

Considering all the magic and advanced science that exists in BB, I do find it hard to believe that they can't restore Jin's body.
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Here's the illustration of Mai that will be on the cover of the first volume of Variable Heart.
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>>158467242
Yeah, they have the technology He could be the next Red Devil.
Blue Devil? Order Devil?
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>>158467397
We can rebuild him; we have the technology.

The Six Million Platinum Dollar Man.
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>>158467242
If he couldn't fight after passing through the boundary, how did he fight Ragna?
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>>158467732
>fight Ragna
kek
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>>158467732
I mean the original Jin who became Hakumen. That Jin was stuck on a wheelchair.
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>>158467242
Why? The only magic users that could do that is Celica and she used up all of her magic and life force restoring Rachel after her little torture session with Hazama left her too weak among other things. Trinity couldn't do anything for Jin and the only reason he was even capable of moving at all in the finale is because he willed himself up to protect Noel from Ragna with his power of order. Keep in mind he's gone through many temporary treatments through all 3 games after Calamity Trigger, In Continuum Shift he went through a horrific treatment by Valkenhyne that even left Jubei shouting in pain, in Chronophantasma he needed round the clock emergency healing by Celica to even wake up from his coma after the beat down from Berserk Ragna, come Central Fiction, the only way he could even move and fight anymore was because Trinity made him a temporary body that allowed him to fight, then after he gets beaten down along with everybody else from Susanoo'o his temp body couldn't take it and so Trinity had to take the chance to immediately put Jin's soul into the Susanoo'o unit right after Terumi was forced out by Ragna and finally, as per Trinity and Ragna's agreement, Trinity ejected Jin's soul from the unit and put him back in his already injured normal body, Yet Jin pushes through these injuries to fight Ragna one last time in a vain attempt to stop him.

it's a miracle that Jin's capable of every day activities at all after the end with what he pushed himself through.
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Does Mai release at midnight or when the store updates?
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>>158468603
in 20 mins
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>>158468741
YAY
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>>158467870
Oh, so what's wrong with current Jin and why can't he fight?
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anyone know which dlc to get for system voices that has tsubaki in it? i miss my RAGUNA ZA BLUD EDGY and hakumensama.
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>>158468269
Lambda's body was a corpse and Kokonoe somehow restored her.
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>>158469117
It has a picture of the characters included on the store page.
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>>158469094
His body was fucked up extremely badly at the end of CP, to the point where he can't even move out of bed in the beginning of CF. Trinity offers him a deal, she'll make him a new body that he can use to fight immediately, but she doesn't know how long it'll last and he'll never be able to return to his old body. She constantly has to tell him that he's approaching his limit in fights.

Fighting Susanoo pushed him to the limit. When he and Ragna fight, Ragna's surprised that he can move so soon.
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>>158469454
That through the "never return to your old body" thing was a lie, Trinity did not make Jin a new body when she forced him out of the Susanoo'o unit, that's his real body and that's why it was so surprising that he could even move himself to protect Noel. I guess Jin's brocon really is on the level of Noel's. It's no wonder Ragna had to cheat to beat Noel she was the only one there who was healthy enough to give him a challenge especially if she had time to transform prior.
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>>158469690
Does transforming really take the kumos that long? I noticed she didn't transform when confronting Susanoo either, but chalked it up to her being a dumbfuck.
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>>158469690
>>158469454
Jin couldn't use the power of order or something to bullshit himself a healthy body? And it's kinda funny Kokonoe can't fix him, I guess her expertise is in rocket dildos not medical science
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Mai looks top tier
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>>158469898
Kokonoe probably doesn't give much of a shit. Jin can walk, who cares if he can't fight anymore. For all we know she did fix him up behind the scenes to this point.
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>>158469909
Based on what footage?
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>>158469909
COUP DROIT
THAT GUARD BREAKS
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>>158469825
Well, when confronting Susanoo, she and all the heroes just tried to rush him and with Ragna she was in the middle of begging him to stop and bewildered why Nii-sama is pointing his sword at her. Ragna didn't really give Noel the chance to focus, Honestly, I'm surprised he gave Noel a fighting chance at all, He even had Trinity give her some clothes and her bolverk back while she was stark naked. He could of simply hugged Noel and knocked her out like he did Rachel. I guess Ragna is still soft on his little sister in the end.
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>>158470054
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xjg08SvEmE
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>>158470275
This Terumi is confusing me, why does he keep ending his combos early?
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>>158470275
>Open video to see waifu wreck face
>Get's Astral'd
>Only beats Tao
DELET THIS
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>>158470639
Maybe lag, delay, whatever? It can eat inputs.
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>>158470173
>He could of simply hugged Noel and knocked her out like he did Rachel.
That's a good point, it's almost like a half-hearted attempt at stopping himself.
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>>158470275
>those sick Mai resets
I can't
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>>158471829
Yeah, either that or he just wanted to mess with his sister one last time. Even his voice calls her Dummy Noel when you select her
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>Mai gets one-shot by Hazzy
I thought it was an exaggeration but holy shit.
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>>158472327
>Both Ragna and Jin call Noel names in their character voices.

Noel needs better brothers...
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>>158470275
Her pressure doesn't seem as scary as I thought it'd be, if Susanoo was 2Aing out of it.
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>>158473186
It's hard not to mess with Noel, to be honest. Even her sister does it

>"Hey, what's that suppose to mean?, I can cook too."
>"No Noel, Never."
>"Lambda,that's mean!"
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>>158473186
She loves it.
Besides, she'll call Ragna names too.
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>>158473157
To be fair Hazama does comment that he was stronger than usual due to what was going on. So it was Hazama on steroids.
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>>158473780
>>158473449

She's so desensitized at this point, its like she knows people are just gonna fuck with her so she just takes it. She doesn't even react much to Jin calling her trash anymore beyond "ok.jpeg."
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>>158474043
There's a difference between the way Ragna and Jin do it tho. Ragna is more childish, almost playful. Jin is just mean.
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>"Hakumen-san?"
>"Wrong, it's me."
>"Jin-nii-sama?! Eh, why?"
>"Stop it, don't you dare call me that!"
>"Ah, come on, she's your sister,too,Jin."
>"I..urgh"

Then they all laugh together.
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>>158474261
Oh yea obviously, Ragna is just playing around, but Jin probably legit means it. It's hilarious that he still helps Ragna rescue her and even protects her from him in the end.

Dude literally cannot be real on how he feels for a second.
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Reminder that Nine players are scum and should be ostracized from the community.
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>>158475102
Same goes for Naoto, Izanami, Jin, Tsubaki, Nu, Lambda, Izayoi, Kagura, Ragna, and Tager players. Fuck em all.
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>>158475306
>Naoto players.
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>>158475306
leave the Naoto players alone, they already have to play with broken fingers.
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>>158475393
Yeah fuck their overly optimistic attitude. They're always so cheery and hopeful. They should play a real character and not be faggots.
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quick guys, post Nine!
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>>158475306
What did Lambda players ever do to you Anon?
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>>158467319
Higher resolution version of that image.
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how long does it usually take for console characters to be added to arcade, I want to watch good players play the new characters
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>>158475524
Don't forget to blame your loses on Naoto's low-tier status and high execution, okay?
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I don't understand this, If Mori doesn't want to revisit the existing characters in Blazblue why the hell did he leave so many sequel hooks with Naoto? Why did he leave so many ambiguous fates for most characters as well and why the teaser for Alpha and Rachel's resolve? Is he pulling a Nasu and leaving things unfinished in case he can run back to it if his other ambitions are crushed and he needs to fall back on this?
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>>158475859
none of the new characters are viable at pro level.
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>>158476483
This, out of the 15 new characters we've gotten from Continuum Shift, only 2 of them high play level and even then, they all lose to the old guard more. On a side note, does anyone have that cgi shot image of all of Team remix heart? Kajun had butterfly shit on her lab coat,too.
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>>158475859
I think it took like 6 months with CP 1.1. Maybe 7? It came out in March or April.
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is mai out
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>>158475951
Probably. He's been working on BlazBlue for at least 9 years now, if not 10. He probably wants to do something different for a little bit, but he's keeping things open in case he wants or has to.
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>>158476837
You mean this?
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>>158477047
ps store updates at 12pm jst
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>>158477409
Yup. That's the one. I wish Kajun and Shiori got to be playable but Kajun doesn't even speak or appear in Central Fiction's story, where'd that CGI come from? Was it data mined like Celicas battle and defeat poses and Kokonoe's battle and defeat poses?
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>>158477584
Kokonoe's battle and defeat poses were already in CP. But yeah, they're from the game's data. Kokonoe had a ton of facial expressions in CT that weren't used until CS. Hibiki has a lot of unused stuff too.
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Nine players are worse than Hitler
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>>158477584

Probably appeared in one of the sub-scenarios that is unlocked by playing the story.
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>>158478107
We've seen all the sub scenarios. Not a single one starts Hibiki and the one that stars Mai just has her being appointed by Kagura to guard Homura. Kajun's sole appearance in the game is in the final scenes in the game and in Mai's arcade mode
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What would you think if ASW decided to make BBxRWBY instead of BBxGG?
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>Mai leaps into the air
>Hazama sends Orouboros after her
>the snake part suddenly appears behinds Mai and bites her shoulder sending her crashing down to the ground

God damn, I knew she didn't have a chance against Hazama but he completely recked her.
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>>158479862
I think it would be funny
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>>158478379
The data miner said that the Mai DLC might include additional sub-scenarios. We'll find out later today.
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>>158479862
What is RWBY?
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How much longer until Mai is Ret 2 go?
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>>158477847
Doesn't Jubei have a battle pose now too? Can someone post it?
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>>158481587
Shitty 3D Deviantart-tier cringe videos that have fighting scenes that gained alot of popularity in the west, to the point where it even came to Japan with a manga.
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>>158481753
Is this what you are looking for?
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>>158481936
You mean it gained a lot of popularity in the east that it got a manga adaptation right
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>>158482048
Not really, from what I've seen it didn't really grow into popularity in Japan until the manga was announced, which is when alot of attention was drawn to it there. Prior to that, it was mainly a western thing.
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I don't buy Mori's comments on this being the end

What the fuck was with Tsubakimen?
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>>158482161
And Mori in some interview with Forbes said that he would like to work with the guy that made RWBY
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>>158482405
Yeah well that ship has sailed
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>>158481971
That's a pretty cool one, but I meant a story pre-battle pose like the Kokonoe image I replied to. Does it exist?
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>>158482405
He expressed an interest in working on RWBY but there's no indication he'll actually do it.
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>>158482676
Not as far as I know. People have data mined the game and haven't found one.
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>>158482782
Ah, alright. Thanks anyways.

I saw the interview that went up earlier via google translate and it seems like he's still planning more DLC for the console version, huh?
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>>158470275
>Only one fight even reaches WHEN YOU DIE
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>>158481936
>shit talking monty oum
Choke on your own tongue faggot.
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>>158484761
RWBY is the worst shit ever, making it through even one episode is painful because of how terrible the dialogue is.
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mai is out on HK
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>>158486930
>8usd for a tranny
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>>158488019
>tranny for 8usd
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>>158486930
Nice.
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>Naoto has difficult combos

What....and why
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>>158490267
stupid sexy catdad
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>>158490632
>looks like a generic MC
>his combos actually destroy your fingers

It's a trap.
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>>158490702
What about them makes them difficult?
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>>158490691
husbando teased for 8 years. kajun fans don't even know
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>>158490809
microdash city
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>Mai asks for 16 meals since she won against Noel

Man, how much does this girl eat?

Anyway her bosses for her arcade mode

Platinum
Carl
Ragna
Relius

Mai seems to have a weakness for little kids because the only reason the fight happened is because Luna got mad that Sena was spilling spaghetti around the nice big boobed lady.

Carl's fight happens because he sensed that Mai is not a normal human and wants to "understand" her, he treats after saying Relius's creepy catchphrase.

I don't know why the Ragna battle happens but Mai seems really familiar with Ragna, Jubei's name comes up,too. After it's over Ragna is teleported away by someone
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>>158491080
Really? I assumed his combos were like everyone else's gatling type
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>>158491242
His basic juggle and bounce you in the corner combos require a lot more work compared to others.
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>>158491242
basically the way his gimmick works (get powered up attacks if done while dashing) means you have to include microdashes often to optimize his combos
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>>158491492
>>158491462
So he's like an easier Jam?
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>>158491695
Not really, why don't you try him
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>>158491462
>>158491492
That's crazy, all that work for a shitty character
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>>158492249
Because I don't have CF yet senpai. Jam has to IAD and use specials before her IAD ends to get enhanced versions of them
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>Amazon still has broken the street date and shipped my game

AAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Oh my
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>>158493945
You can't milk those, Izanami.
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>>158467052
>Mai (vs Taokaka) Eh? Food? Huh... Your personality is quite different from a Kaka that I know of...
I actually find this kind of interesting. Is Tao just an idiot? Or is intelligence randomly bestowed upon the Kaka's?

We know the Kaka kittens aren't all that bright, but they look like they are around 5 year old or so.

Torakaka is and adult around 20years+
Taokaka is 15 years old

So what about Chachakaka? She dressed in a school uniform so was she around 15? Or was she older? Why was she intelligent? Maybe intelligence kicks in at around 16 years old?
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>>158492758
Taos just dumb
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>>158494986
For
>>158494671
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>>158476837
Relius pretty much rapes everyone though.
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>>158494671
Where did you get the number 15 from?
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>>158495590
If all 5 of those girls team up, I'm sure they could beat Relius good. No more rapes!
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>>158486930
Why would you lie to me like that?
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>>158477584
I like Shiori, but I want Taro even more.

>>158479897
Makes you wonder why Hazama didn't use that kind of attack against Ragna. Maybe he is just the type of man that enjoys taking girls from behind?

>>158491169
Any video of this yet?
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>>158495817
Harem astral for Relius then? I am looking forward to it.

>>158495690
It was mention in her profile in one of the games. Or maybe it was in the game itself? It seems I might have recalled wrong though. Seems she is only 14.

https://myanimelist.net/character/31976/Taokaka

Or maybe she is 14 in the anime but 15 in the game?
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>>158494671
Taokaka is the only dumb adult Kaka. Both the Kaka elder and Torakaka have at least normal intelligence, while Chachakaka is pretty smart.

It looks like Tao is the exception rather than the rule.
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>>158494671
My guess is that kaka who have spent a long time away from the village (Elder, Tora, Chacha) exploring the the world learn things they wouldn't be able to learn if they were confined to the village which has no school or real parental figures. Litchi took it upon herself to teach the kittens, so I think it is safe to say that it is just a matter of no real form of education being readily available to them.

Since kaka are viewed as leftover weapons from the dark war they typically wouldn't be allowed to just leave the village and go to school with humans. Chachakaka may have stumbled upon some people who thought ''We could use this thing to kill people'' so they recruited her and gave her some quality education for general things and assassination, and they pulled strings to throw her into the NOL academy, she probably isn't your typically schoolgirl age.
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Release day reminder that Mai is low tier waifubait! Collect your free wins!
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>>158494671
To talk more about Chachakaka, she was able to make it into the academy and once there she demonstrates that she's good at information gathering. Also she uses psychological warfare, e.g. lying by telling Mai that her father hates her and thinks she's useless in order to break Mai's resolve before she attacks her. Also she's able to analyze and deduce what the true motives of Mai's father are and she's able to figure out what's going on with Seifer before some of the human characters.

All in all, I'd say she has above average intelligence.
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>>158496802
I'm almost positive that no one in Blazblue has a canon age and that myanimelist is in no way a reliable source for something like that. I've played all the games up to CPEX and I don't recall age being mentioned for her anywhere.
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>>158496802
>Harem astral for Relius then? I am looking forward to it.
Are you? I'm kinda a drawfag so I might actually draw Relius astralling all of team remix heart the next time I get some spare time.
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>>158497625
The academy girls other than Noel had to be 15 at the start of April 2196, so they're 19 by the time of January 2200. Jin has to be 21.
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>>158497384
No need to tell me that. Just watch the video. Her pressure is garbage her neutral is less than mediocre.
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>>158497737
Not him but pleeeeease
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Hey /blaz/ do you know if Mai's torture on Relius Astral have some meaning (Like aAmane's case, were it just looks like a cage, but in reallity it's a prostitutes cage)?
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>>158497737
Could Relius beat Mu, Izayoi and the other 3 girls at the same time?
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Noel buffs when
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>>158499074
It may be a dissection table? Besides that, the thing is even made from Relius-standard yellow and green clockwork, it's boring as shit.
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Who's our best player?
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Kept you waiting huh...jubeibros... i'll release tomorrow...
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>>158499309
Dunno, but it look like some victorian torture machine
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>>158499386
Me playing CS1 Tager.
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>>158499117
Only person his astral can't beat is Susan terumi
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>>158497961
>just watch the video
>mai winning
??
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>>158499403
time for my morning routine....
i'm slick, i'm dabbin....
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>>158499558
What do astrals have to do with in-universe strength?
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>>158499403
Jubei didn't you hear? Saya(Terumi) will be playable soon!
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>>158499840
I like milk!
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>>158499652
How did he get so good
what is his secret
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>>158499117
It can be narrowed down to a 3 on 1 since Mai and Tsubaki are confirmed jobbers
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>>158467015
It's funny how Mori mentions Jin and Tsubaki, yet neglects to mention the main heroine Noel when he said that they shouldn't write any stories about what happens to them after BBCF.
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>>158500135
Mai is probably stronger than Makoto. Tsubaki too with the Izayoi.
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>>158499769
There was an interview with Mori IIRC, that Astral Damage = Canon Power levels.

Going by that, Susanoo with his 45k damage for his Astral is canonically the strongest character, with Nu and Lambda being joint 2nd with their 40k damage.

People thought it was rubbish because of things like Litchi doing the same as Azrael damage wise.
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>>158500435
Because Noel's character arc was done, what else could he have done with her? At least with Jin and Tsubaki, you could have confirmed if they hooked up or not.
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>>158499652
>>158500117
Who?
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>>158500436
Jobbing isn't a matter of strength
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>>158500487
Could you please source this?
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>>158499403
thank you daddy please treat me good
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>>158500601
>he doesn't know
is CF your first bb
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>>158500436
Well not everyone can be a grimore and be blessed with a legacy weapon
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>>158470275
You guys were freaking out over nothing. She is garbage.
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>>158500610
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/837/837284/

This is the relevant part:
>小澤:前作で強かったキャラクターも、弱くするだけではなく、何かしらの強化点は必ず持たせるようにしてい ます。後は細かいところなんですが、実は今回アストラルヒートのダメージ表示がこっそり変わっています。前 作までは相手の体力分のダメージを与えていたので、アズラエルが地球を割るパンチをしているのにダメージが 1,000とか200くらいだったんですよね。

>今回は、アズラエルやラグナなら3万くらいダメージを出すようになっています。この数値に関してもキャラ クターの設定上の強さに準拠して、それぞれランク分けしてダメージを付けているんですよ。タオカカのアスト ラルの途中でチビカカが攻撃しているんですが、ここでは10しか減っていなかったりします(笑 )。

Basically, Astral damage was based on how much damage it did to the opponent, while now it's based on the characters' canon strength. And then they laughed about how the part of Taokaka's Astral with the Kaka Kittens only does ten damage.
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>>158501197
>Litchi is stronger than Ragna, Es, and Jin
This has to be bullshit
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>>158501197
How much damage does ragna do?
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>>158501383
30000
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>>158501454
Izayoi?
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>>158501197
looking at astral numbers and story there is no fucking way astral numbers are canon strength. this has to be a ruse.
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>>158501619
27000 if I'm remembering right

>>158501197
Es and Naoto's astral do the same amount of damage but Es beat the hell out of Naoto in story
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>>158501354
Based best girl
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>>158501915
Naoto says that Es is on an entirely different level compared to him and thinks she's a monster. There's no way Astral damage corresponds to power levels.
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>>158502069
Sit down bitch

>>158502150
>There's no way Astral damage corresponds to power levels.
I know that was my point
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>>158502225
Yeah, I'm reinforcing your point.
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1. Susanoo
2. Nu/Lambda
4. Kokonoe
5. Izanami

This can't be right
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>>158502069
it's truly a shame that godlike body is wasted on such a dumb cunt
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>>158502343
kokopuffs has insane magic power. shes fought relius and not got shit on like every other person that fought him.
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>>158502343
desu its probably 1. Terumi/Susan
2. Ragna
3. Izanami
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>>158502343
Kokonoe drops a meteor on you tho
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>>158502343
The only probably I have with this is Nu and Lambda. Kokonoe was hyped up to be strong physically and magically on top of having SCIENCE.
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>>158502683
And Makoto's punch shatters the Moon.

Which is why it's ridiculous that Astral Damage = Canon Power levels.
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>>158501197
>Tsubaki does 9000
>Platinum does 9999
>Bullet does 11000
I refuse to believe anyone is weaker than Bullet in this cast.


>>158502343
Hakumen does 38000, so he'd be above Izanami and Kokonoe. But if he's only at ~20%, shouldn't he do like... 190000 damage at his peak? Susanoo should've just maxed out number at 999999 at that point. I'm glad Mori is a known liar instead of just retarded at any rate.
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>>158503628
I don't have a problem with Tsubaki being the weakest
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MY-MY FACE IS MWELTING
AHHHHHHHH *hellish anthro nigger whining*
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>>158505073
I've seen worse, quit being a bitch.
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/blaz/ tourney fucking when?
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>>158506347
Stylish tager would win
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>>158506347
Might as well just skip me to grand finals
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>>158497793
Wasn't it mentioned in Reliable heart that this was actually the case? Or was that just Mai? I recall taht it was mentioned that she was 15. Maybe she was older than the rest or younger. She could have skipped a grade, or been held back one since she seemed to have entered the school later than the rest.

No actually, we can't be sure that the age was homogeneous. We know that they had lower grades for people like Carl and that Jin was in in another grade than Tsubaki, but we can't say for sure that this was actually decided solely by age. So only character we do know the age of was Mai?

>>158497625
Wasn't it mentioned in some source material that Taokaka was 14?
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>>158506347
Would be way too free
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>>158497737
> I might actually draw Relius astralling all of team remix heart
This is indeed relevant to my interests.

>>158499074
Looks like a cross, so I always figured it was just suggesting that she had a heavy cross to bare.
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>>158507189
The girls were in their first year of high school, so logically they must be 15. There's no indication that they're of different ages, with the exception of Noel.
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Why does Bang have a 18 frame overhead
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>>158500135
Makoto jobs to Hazama.
Tsubaki jobs to Nu.
Mai Jobs to Hazama.
Noel jobs to Ragna and a lot of other people.

So That means Kajun is strongest girl since she doesn't job to anyone?

>>158500436
>>158500608
Yes, but we also have to take into account of what people they were jobbing too and why.
The problem here is that there aren't that many villains in Blazblue. We only really have six villains, only fove of which are real villains.

Nu
Relius
Izami
Hazama
Terumi
Arakune

Nu isn't really a villain, she is more of a anti-hero.

Hazama was for a long time Terumi and is still basically him so if you beat Hazama then you can say you have beat Terumi. I.E you can't have Hazama job to anyone without making Terumi look weak.

Relius is too strong.
Izami is too strong and important.
Terumi is too strong and important.

That leave us with Arakune. Only villain that can job to the heroes is Arakune. So new hero characters really don't have much of a chance to show themselves strong without being forced into some weird fight against another hero.
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is it mai time yet lads
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>>158507189
>Wasn't it mentioned in some source material that Taokaka was 14?

None that I know of. the only times I have seen that number was once on the blazblue wiki, and that part was removed presumably because there was no source.

I wouldn't accept that number even if it came straight out of Mori's mouth. You don't just give a 14yo curves like that.
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>>158508990
Not yet she'll probably be up around 11am Jspan time
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>>158508963
I agree. All the villains but Arakune are extremely strong, so losing to them doesn't make a character weak.
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>>158508996
Do you even anime?
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Will they release a version that has all the DLC characters for free?

I don't want to pay money for characters.
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>>158502868
>using joke attacks just stuck in their to look cool as proof of canon power level.
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>>158509550
I'm like 80% sure they're all going to be free for the first week they come out like the GG characters were
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>>158501167
She looks strong to me.

>>158501197
How much damage does Mai's astral do?

>>158502150
True, but Es also mentions that she got a premonition that Naoto could destroy her.

>>158502343
Relius did comment on how impressive Nu's will to live was. She was outside of expectations.
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>>158510251
Naoto can channel some of the Black Beast's power. The Black Beast is basically the greatest destructive force in the series, even greater than Susanoo.
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>>158508963
Is Makoto really jobbing if she was never built up to be Kokonoe tier?
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>>158510164
If it was like 6-7 characters it would have been one thing, but why care if the characters are free or not. They only cost 8$ each. Actually look at the official homepage it now says that you can buy Susanoo as a DLC. You have to buy him? I though he was just unlocked after you beat the game or something.

>>158508996
>You don't just give a 14yo curves like that.
I've seen 13 year olds with curves like that.
From what I read here:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/680197-blazblue-chrono-phantasma/65243950

The info was supposed to come from the "bb martial collection" or something something, but I could have sworn I saw it in the game itself. The first game that is and that it mentioned that she was 15.
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>>158511179
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>>158511340
Of course you can unlock him in the story are you daft?
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>>158511219
I guess you are confusing jobbing with The Worf. Jobbing simply means that a character make another character look good, presumably at their own expense. It doesn't mean that they are strong or weak.

The Worf however is an offshot of jobbing, where they use a canonically strong character that suddenly get creamed by a new character just to show how strong this new character is.
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>>158511935
oh well thanks for clearing it up for me
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>>158511869
>are you daft?
>daft
You're not American are you?
I haven't actually bought the game yet so no, I'm not aware if you could unlock him or not. That was why I was asking here. Everything I've been reading here suggest that you unlock him for free, but on the official homepage for the game it shows that he is a DLC and you have to pay 250yen to get him.

http://www.blazblue.jp/cf/cs/product/


追加プレイアブルキャラクター SUSANOO

配信日:10月13日 価格:250円(税込)

「BLAZBLUE CENTRALFICTION」にプレイアブルキャラクター「スサノオ」が追加されます。

全モードで「スサノオ」が使用可能になります。
「スサノオ」の追加カラー(No16~21番 計6色)が使用可能になります。
その他「スサノオ」に関する各種コンテンツが選択可能になります。

※本キャラクターはゲームを進行することでも入手することができます。

It does say that you can get him simply by playing, so why pay 250yen? Is anything different about the version you pay for?
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>>158512429
What the fuck
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>>158512429
You have to finish Story Mode, which takes approximately 45 minutes to get through even if you're skipping everything and playing on beginner difficulty. Because of this, they give the alternative to pay 250 yen, since it's basically pocket change and not everyone wants to play through the story.
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>>158512429
>It does say that you can get him simply by playing, so why pay 250yen? Is anything different about the version you pay for?
It's like what they did with Mu-12 in CS1 and Kagura in original CP you unlock them by beating story mode but they give you a option to just buy them if you're too lazy to skip through story mode
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>>158512429
DLC Susanoo starts each round with all his level 1 unlocks.
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>>158511340
You can unlock Susan by beating CF's story mode IIRC. You can buy him to save time on drudging through story mode if you only want to play the game and dgaf about story.


That gamefaqs post says the user saw that age on the wiki, which claimed it was in the material collection, the age was removed from the wiki at some point. It stands to reason that it was proven not to be true since it was removed.

Think about it though, if it was there in the material collection in CT then why are people still unsure about her age? It should be common knowledge if it was in CT.
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>>158512429
I am American and they do the same thing with Sin and Raven in Guilty Gear. You can buy the character if you don't want to go through the story.
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>>158494671
Tager is like "you're pretty smart for a Kaka" when he talks to Tora. But that's when we only had Tao and the elder as examples, so maybe they've gone back on that.
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Who are the best players in /blaz/?
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>>158512429
No, lots of games do that where you can just pay for shit you unlock in the actual game for the people who are either lazy or not dedicated
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>>158512429
Depends on if Susanoo comes with his DLC colors unlocked. If he doesn't, buying him will unlock colors 16-21 for him so you don't have to buy those later, but otherwise that's it.

I really should just play through the story on Stylish and get it over with, if because I want all the stages.
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>>158513123
Me
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>>158511340
I own all the material collections and there's nothing like that on Tao's page. Maybe in some sidenote. Nothing like that is mentioned in CT either.
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>>158513123
>>158499652
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>>158513123
Me by far
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https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-hk/games/addons/additional-character-mai/cid=HP5035-CUSA04409_00-DLC0000000000014


Here's Mai for you HK guys.
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Holy shit FUCK online. I can barely stand it sometimes. I'm losing track of the amount of times there have been sudden lag spikes in the middle of my combos and shit yet the match is perfectly smooth every other time. It's fucking infuriating.
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>>158513074
Tager confirmed to be racist towards beastkin. Looks like that's where Bullet got it from.
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>>158514684
Nice. Mai is out on the Japanese store too:

https://store.playstation.com/#!/ja-jp/%e3%82%b2%e3%83%bc%e3%83%a0/%e8%bf%bd%e5%8a%a0%e3%82%a2%e3%82%a4%e3%83%86%e3%83%a0/%e8%bf%bd%e5%8a%a0%e3%82%ad%e3%83%a3%e3%83%a9%e3%82%af%e3%82%bf%e3%83%bc%ef%bc%88%e3%83%9e%e3%82%a4%ef%bc%89/cid=JP0036-CUSA04103_00-BBCFPS4000003000
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Alright it's been about 5 minutes what are Mai's optimal combos and frame data and her tier placement?
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>>158513123
That guy that plays stylish tager
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Mai's astral looks pretty impressive:

https://twitter.com/Danaiden_TP/status/791444756056383488
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>>158499403
Is there actually something happening tomorrow? I havent been keeping up with news
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WHO PLAYING MAI HERE?
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Mai's Astral:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mos5f6XO6z0
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>>158515997
>>158516102
Pretty boring
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>>158516102
So it's just King of Tager?
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>>158516102
That was fucking cool
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Mai is FUN!!!

And CUTE!!!!!
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>>158515997
>>158516102
>27000 damage
So on par with Izayoi and stronger than Makoto
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Does anybody have the clean sprite of Mai's normal color?
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>>158516102
Everything about that guy is boring
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So is Mai suppose to be more of a Dragoon than a lancer? She sure likes to jump before she attacks.
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>>158516637
She's based on Lancer, the fact that she's not on a horse should tell you she's not based on a lancer
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>>158516102
GAE
BOLG
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>>158516637
Every spear user in a fighting game is a Dragoon.
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Damn Mai has some weird controls.
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>>158516102
Thats Mu tier bad.
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>>158515821
low tier bad
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>>158516637
>>158516713
>call the class Lancer
>almost none of them are on a horse
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>>158516861
She's dumbed down for manga fans.
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>>158516901
>Mu
>bad
Literally wrong.
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>>158517036
what if a good player uses her? For such an easy to use character she better be mediocre to make up for it.
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>>158517248
Don't bother asking about tier placement right now, since everyone is going to be biased one way or another until a week or two in where people will actually have some matchup experience and such to base it on.
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So did anybody do her arcade yet? How the heck does she know Platinum?
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>>158517248
Easy characters sometimes tend to be lacking in tools
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>>158517132
Someone forgot what her first astral was.
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>>158517383
Her old Astral was bad, but that's not really relevant now that she hasn't had it for a long time.
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>Susanoo - 45,000
>Nu-13 - 40,000
>Lambda-11 - 40,000
>Hakumen - 38,000
>Kokonoe - 37,100
>Mu-12 - 37,000
>Relius - 36,000
>Izanami - 36,000
>Nine - 35,000
>Terumi - 34,500
>Rachel - 34,200
>Litchi - 32,000
>Azrael - 32,000
>Kagura - 31,100
>Es - 30,000
>Ragna - 30,000
>Hazama - 30,000
>Naoto - 30,000
>Jin - 27,315
>Izayoi - 27,000
>Valkenhayn - 25,700
>Mai - 24,000
>Carl - 21,850
>Tao - 21,570 (20K of that comes from Jubei)
>Amane - 21,000
>Celica - 20,000
>Bang - 19,800
>Noel - 18,800
>Tager - 16,000
>Makoto - 15,200
>Arakune - 14,000
>Hibiki - 12,412
>Bullet - 11,000
>Platinum - 9,999
>Tsubaki - 9,000
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Mai has really fun movement
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>>158517632
Gee Mori I wish Makoto got a super cool legacy weapon and grimoire body
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>>158517632
>Litchi - 32,000
This always keeps me from even pretending like there's any truth to the Astral being their respective powerlevels.
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>>158517632
This is kind of dumb considering Ragna's been stated to get progressively stronger over time. Also, how the fuck is Mu weaker than Nu and Lambda?
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>>158518031
Dont waste your time thinking about it. Just another one of Moris lies.
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>>158518119
>thinking Mori ever lies
Bet you think Terumi lies too.
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>>158518031
Deal with it
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>>158518031
Well, with Lao Jiu she was able to pull power directly from the boundary sooo... It kind of make sense?
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>>158518939
>higher than Amane, Tager, Valk, Izayoi, Jin, Naoto, Hazama, Ragna, Es, and Kagura
'no'
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>>158518939
but to take her to Azrael without the limiters on?
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Someone's doing her challenges
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>>158520132
I finished them, they're really easy.
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>>158520461
Is 236, A enhanced a distance thing or do you have to hold A or what?
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>>158520529
perfect timing boi
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Is Mai discussion finally allowed?
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Is Mai low tier waifubait? May I collect my free wins as he pleasures flat women for food?
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>>158521884
She's been out for like an hour.
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Post yfw you won't waste 8 bucks for Mai
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>>158519135
Maybe Azrael only really has a significant boost in power when going to Level 1 to Level 2 and then Level 3 onwards he only goes up in small increments.

So like Level 1 - 2 he goes from 10,000 - 20,000 and then Level 3 onwards, it goes up 2k for every level released until Level 8 where he's at full power.

I'm just grasping at straws here.
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The fact Mai's astral is a huge explosion proves that she truly is American.
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>>158521803
Sure i'm interested to see what you guys post
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>>158522603
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Is there a crotch bulge in any of Mai's sprites?
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>>158522603
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>>158522654
>2k Astral
Weak American damage
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I'm going to play Mai just to make people angry now.
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>>158522603
>>158522780
>>158522984
But y'all bought the HK version for 10 bucks more?
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>>158522720
inb4
Mai is lowtier waifubait. Collect your free wins!
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>>158523051
that's why i play celica

it's a bonus that she's a qt
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>>158523079
No need to pay extra for a character I won't play, care about, or listen to her theme.
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>>158523051
Careful now, stripy was just like that.Also
>Paying 8 dollars just to upset someone
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>>158522995
Her astral does 24K, which is 8K more than Tager's.
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>>158522603
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>>158523218
She's also dead
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>>158523219
So wait, you're happy about not paying 8 dollars more for a character, but you're completely fine with paying 10 dollars more for a version with fucked up netplay?
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Check Mai's Dustloop page.
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>>158523404
Never said I had the HK version.
Mai is something I won't invest in no matter what edition I have.
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>>158523471
I LOVE YOU ANON
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Oh jesus christ can you fucking people not shit up the thread about 8 fucking dollars and who is willing to pay for it
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>>158523653
You could make her free and I still wouldn't take the time to download her.
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>>158523653
I'm sure you'll make those 8 dollars back anon
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>>158523719
But you'll certainly take the time to shit up the thread though
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I need everyone with CF to go into training mode and do the coup droit that guard breaks and understand why Mai is the hypest character in the entire game
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Is Mai the only character you can't get away with insulting?
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>>158523856
>why Mai is the hypest character in the entire game
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>>158523856
>hypest
Quite the claim.
I actually haven't seen too much of her moves. Got any footage?
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>>158523879
No one insults Ragna.
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>>158523991
Because if we do his imouto is going to bitch at us.
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Why is this allowed?
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>>158523856
>hypest
MUST DIE
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>>158523983
Literally anyone streaming right now use your brain.
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>>158523982
>>158523983
Y'all clearly don't understand. From the footages I've seen Mai can combo after one of her supers without being in OD. She is a fucking PERSONA character who probably has PERSONA damage with
A
COUP
DROIT
THAT
BREAKS
GUARDS
Y'all not ready
>>
Mai shit

5A is pretty god tier, hits crouchers and shit it has no right to. Insane hitbox.
5B is sweep and has gatlings/chains/whatever they are calling her built in combos and is an all around combo tool for picking people off the ground and going into 236B stuff super or 236~C J.214C or A into super (all depends on where you are on screen).
Holding B puts you into stance for overheads and shit. Not many combos beyond the overhead they show you in challenge, but there are lots of stance buttons, so going to take few days to explore this and see what can be done with it.
Her 236 moves have 'perfect' hits that are spacing dependent. Just the tip bois. 236C is very finnicky for the distance to hit in the air for perfect hit, but the combos after it are huge. J.214~C requires you to let her finish her little animation and then do the C for perfect hit that will give you a nice ground bounce for followups. 236A is about 2 steps back from round start for distance to get perfect hit. 236C hits top of jump arcs from one back dash back for perfect hit. You wont be doign reaction perfect hits. Only a call out for this.

Overdrive I believe puts you in perfect hits for all dash moves with no timing or space requirements.

She can whiff moves into the gatlings/chains, which allows certain combos by whiffing certain moves.
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>>158524141
>not calling it a Divine Thrust
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>>158524298
>She can whiff moves into the gatlings/chains, which allows certain combos by whiffing certain moves.
I knew it, I knew it, i fucking knew it. She's going to be as annoying to fight for me as Es is,
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>>158524343
Orie-san > Mai
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>>158524141
Guess I will finally pick up and try to play Blazblue now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-1JYg3zEAA
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>>158524407
>lets make a footsies character you can't whiff punish
the absolute madmen at arcsys
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I like what I see:

https://twitter.com/77_pretzel/status/791466595910508545

https://twitter.com/77_pretzel/status/791472729052491776
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>>158525106
So 100 bar to deal 5k and 100 bar for a coast to coast?
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Somebody post Sena talking about Mai's pure and mainstream boobs
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Mai is really fucking fun
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>>158525106
>https://twitter.com/77_pretzel/status/791466595910508545
>Full bar for 5K
I too like free wins
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>>158525347
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Is Mai the Ken Amada of Blazblue?
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>>158525583
More like the Mitsuru
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>>158525583
Ken was a bitch and a half to fight because the FUCKING DOG wouldn't stay dead and gave him extremely obnoxious pressure. Plus he could heal it for free and even if you beat it to death it came back in like 4 seconds.

So no, she's not like him at all, which is good because this game doesn't need more Carls. Having sweet spots on her attacks makes her more like Junpei, who was indeed low tier husbando bait but only because all of his real combos were locked into a "You have to hit this guy like 20 times before you become a real character" mode. Mai will be better than Junpei is.
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>>158525636
>>158525842
That sounds amazing. Has BB netplay generally been active for US west coast or would I have to look and ask for matches online myself?
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Who is better for beginners, Mai or Hibiki?
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>Makoto's intro with Mai
[lust intensifies]
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What are her weaknesses?
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>>158526843
Post video.
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>>158526843
Stop it,anon. I already fapped once today
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>>158526929
Her love for Noel's cooking.
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>>158517632
>Taokaka
>1,570 without Jubei
>Arakune
>14,000

So how the fuck is Taokaka not dead if Arakune is that much stronger? Guy should have a fucking cat buffet by now. Shit makes no sense.
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>>158526929
Hazama 2/4/5/6 D
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>>158527042
MAI NATSUME PLEASES FLAT CHESTS FOR FOOD! OHOHOHOOH
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>>158527218
She looks so fucking weird in the story mode art.
Something about the eyes.
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>>158527292
Looks like a man with tits to me.
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>>158491169
>Sena was spilling spaghetti around the nice big boobed lady.

I also want a doujin of it.
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>>158527369
Her physique isn't any different from that of Makoto.
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man mai is going to be good against nine
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>>158526976
>>158526985
It wasn't anything special the intro with Mu-12 was better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-zNUyWmDus

>No clash intro with Relius
Such a waste
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>>158526654
The west and east coasts are hotspots for fighting games. I'm sure you'll be able to find matches with good connections, but even if you can't, chances are you can find some locals to go to if you have time in your schedule.

>>158526658
Hibiki seems pretty simple just from playing against him, but he has really short range. But Mai is free for the first week anyway, right? Just try them both.
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>>158508996
>You don't just give a 14yo curves like that.
Then what about 15?
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Does Mai have an invincible DP?
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>>158527543
Against Mu:
Mai: Noel, what's with that outfit?
Mu: That's my line!
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I dont like mai. I hate when theres a rnadom character that is completely out of place inputs/controls-wise in a game. Shes not a BB character and requires relearnign how to play the game and everything you do with her does not apply to anyone else.
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>>158528006
Welcome to Blazblue.
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>>158527543
Goes to show how Remix/Variable Heart barely adds anything to the series when none of these interactions are any interesting.
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>>158528006
So, like Carl?
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>>158528006
It's that time again guys!
Mai just doesn't feel right.
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>>158520132
>>158524580
Are there any edits like this but for goblin Es?
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>>158528006
Yeah it sucks but hopefully after some time she ends up being a shit character that no one will use.
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>>158528174
I'm seriously considering buying the goblin colors for everyone I play.
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>>158527975
What does Makoto tell her?

>>158528174
I don't have it, if you have a twitter I can direct you to the guy that makes them. All you have to do is ask him
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Mai has some really tight timings and is obnoxiously space dependent. I don't think I could play this character much because I'd be slowly driven insane by not getting the hits I thought I would with the wonky ass hurtboxes some characters have.
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>>158527543
I see that Mai employs the Litchi technique to keep her chest in check.

>>158528324
something lewd no doubt
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>>158527218
She has such strong, manly shoulders.
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>>158528304
Cute as hell.
>>158528324
>I can direct you to the guy that makes them.
Please.
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>>158528502
theres nothing tight about her timings. they are like half hour confirms and all day to do the combos. the only thing dumb are the perfect hits for 236 moves that are completely space dependent and i cant see how theyll ever be used consistently in combos. need frame data or testing to see how punishable they are to make them worth trying to get those hits.

but her combos are a joke to do and the only difficulty is not getting bored by how long the hitstun is.
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>>158528614
https://twitter.com/AkasuraXrd/status/783903876747493376
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>>158528990
>only plays protags
what a boring guy
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>>158528324
Not sure. Mai tells Makoto that her eyes look scary though.
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>>158528990
Thank you.
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>>158529071
Makoto is basically making a quip that Mai is baiting her or something. I don't know what she;s so scared of, Shiori did worse when she finger banged her in the bath when they first met
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>>158528324
>>158529071
Something something provocative outfit
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Why is Mu so lewd?
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>>158529334
Please. Makoto has only molested Mai's breasts, not her vagina.
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>>158529350
Because that isn't Mu
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Makoto: oyaaah? That's quite the provocative outfit you have.

Mai: M-Makoto.. Somehow your eyes look scary.
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Mai reminds me of my waifu. That's why I'll be playing her.
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>>158529812
I feel like if Makoto had a penis she'd be in jail for rape
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>>158529594
Good thing Makoto doesn't have a penis, since squirrel dicks have barbs.
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>>158530023
She'd be a Kagura without a Hibiki
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>>158529948
Mai should be your waifu instead.
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>>158529948
Who's your waifu?
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eeverytime they remix makotos theme i dislike it more
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I think Mai is going to be really good on netplay.
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>>158530969
I only like the first 10 seconds
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>>158530991
All stylish characters are good on netplay
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>>158530091
an alpha who doesn't get pegged nightly by his wife?
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This distortion is really silly
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>>158531261
im guessingher spear has a hurt box on the other side to get hit.
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>>158531181
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I see they didn't balance test Mai at all. Then again, they actually did multiple loketests for the previous cast and Carl is still ludicrously broken.
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>>158531486
>Arc system works
>Giving a shit about Balance
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>>158531486
>Character is out for literally 1 hour.
>OMG so broken!
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Mai is Brokonoe tier.
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>>158531486
>Character that takes the most effort in the entire game
>is the best character
stop the fucking presses
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>>158532124
>There are characters that take a massive amount of effort that are either mediocre or flat out shit

No fucking excuse.
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>>158532384
Name a single character that requires as much effort as playing two characters at the same time.

p.s, you can't
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>>158532124
This doesn't actually excuse the bullshit that Carl is capable of.
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>>158532449
I never said someone took as much, I said there are characters that take much more effort than some of the other tops, but are still much weaker even if played competently. He shouldn't get a free pass to be so much stronger just because he is a little tougher to use.
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>>158532765
>a little tougher to use.
He's literally the hardest to play character in fighting game history. He deserves to be strong.
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>>158532765
>a little tougher to use.
Okay, pick up Carl then senpai. I want to see you do it. he's just a liltough right?
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>>158532894
Not to the point of making half the cast worthless. This is a competitive fighting game. Having one character completely dominate is stupid.
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>>158533213
Good lord, he's not THAT good. He's S sure, but so are some other characters.
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>Mai recognizes Platinum and calls her Bell before remembering Platinum doesn't remember that time
Ha.
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>>158533213
Why the fuck would you nerf Carl instead of buffing the lower tiers

That's stupid as fuck, if Carl gets nerfed might as well go to the other top tiers(did you forget there were others?) Why the fuck are you complaining about Carl when the OTHER top tiers invalidate the rest of the cast at top level too, but with less effort?
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https://twitter.com/K9999_tetuo/status/791487833663901697
>TWO(2) FRAME GAP
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>it's OK for a character to have 10 hour long blockstrings, retarded mixup and unblockable setups because they're hard to play
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>>158533301
Don't you do this to me, anon, so help me god if Luna and Sena ended up being Es 28
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Don't get too excited. She'll probably be netted later.
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>>158533301
Why would a PFD have Muchourin?
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>>158533470
Yes, I'm glad you understand. Again, if he's that bad why not pick up Carl and collect your wins senpai?
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>>158533470
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>>158533470

Yet I hate fighting Tager almost as much.

Fuck Tager, all year every year. Even when he was shit, fuck Tager.
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>>158530661
>>158530714
Mai doesn't compare.
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>>158533606
Why would a PFD have Bolverk?

Besides, Jubei probably gave it to her intending her to be Trinity's vessel. CF revealed that Luna and Sena were guinea pigs, and coexist in a single body because their own bodies were badly injured from being experimented on. He found Luna and Sena at a facility when he was blowing up Cauldrons, with their body being from a different facility.
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Mai backwards command jump is invulnerable
>we Nine now
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>>158533847
>Idol shit
Both are bad.
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What is the Mai army called?
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>>158534046
Mairines
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>>158534063
Semper Mai?
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>>158534046
Fags
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>Mai's command jump is invulnerable

WHY

FUCK
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>Mai bonds with Loli embryo storage unit
>names her Bell on account of the huge bell she carries
>shit happens, Bell gets taken away by Relius likely died
>Mai fucking hates Relius

it all makes sense now.
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Is Mai top tier yet?
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>>158534353
I told y'all you wouldn't be ready.
But you didn't believe me.
When I saw she had a coup droit that broke guards I knew she'd be dank as fuck.
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>>158534408
Yes
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>>158534353
DP after it
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>>158533213
Stop bitching. Fenrich ran a train on every top tier Carl player at Arc Revo with pure fundamentals.
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>>158534465
And then he put five Carl players on his team in the next tournament.
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oh, shit, are we really going to get bullied by that one anon now? He's going to show mercy to my main right? After all, my main is low tier and in story my main keeps Mai fed
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>>158532124
>character difficulty having anything to do with tier placement
4chin being 4chin i guess
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>>158534653
He stopped saying that he'd bully people with Mai and said he'd do it with Susanoo instead.
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>>158533917

Like I'd believe that. What a load of baloney!
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>>158534353
I'm confused if it's punishable or not

My friend is saying Relius 2C stagger catches it but I'm not getting the same results god I wish I was home right now
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My only solace is that no Maifag will ever be able to take advantage of how good she is because they're all collectively shit at fighters.
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>>158534950
Watch him not even play her.
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>>158534720
this

A good balance would be every character at their highest level being within the same ballpart of strength

But in CF we have these bizarre powergaps in the tierlist that goes like this
S
>can deal with carl and fight to an even ground
A
>can deal with valk and fight to an even ground
Shit
>everyone else lol
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>>158535084
i feel like most waifufags he doesnt even play
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Kinda bullshit how they needed Ragna to make him easier and more beginner friendly, going as far as to take away his damage and corner carry but then they introduce Mai.
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>>158535090
At least A tier is arguably pretty big this time around, and I've seen A tier players doing fine regardless
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>>158535254
kinda how they took away a huge portion of hazama's zoning and approach options, his reversal, and most of his mixup potential but lol at least his bnb is mildly more easy to do
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So I guess Naoto really is the shittiest newcomer.
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>>158535540
The Struggle grows ever more cacophonous
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>>158535540
Take that back
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>>158535656

at least all his shit looks pretty cool
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>>158535687
I will once he stops being low-tier.
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>>158535540
Es has harassment for days from
Nine has Kunite
Mai has wiff bullshit and damage
Hibiki is a gimmick designed into a whole character

I still don't get why Hibiki of all people got on the roster? Nobody asked for him, Ive seen people ask for Trinity, for Taro, for Torakaka, even Kajun,Shiori and in one case, Meifang, yet Hibiki gets in and not only do they give us a reason for him to fight, because he's fucking crazy, they completely drop that plot point, he remains Kagura's bitch and that little insight of his personality is never brought up again. Honestly, it feels like they threw the VA a freebie because he's sugita's friend
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>>158535843
>why
cool gameplay mechanic
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>>158535889

And Attack on Titan reference.
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>>158535843
They wanted a Seth for Blazblue
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>>158535540
At least he's not the most boring.
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>>158535696
Hypest Voice
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>>158535843
I don't care why, I fucking love Hibiki. He's fun as fuck to play.
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So what do you guys do about ribcage? Whenever she turns it on my minds goes blank and the only thought on my mind is "oh shit it's ribcage"
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>>158536256
As my main: Run the fuck away or block because I can't do anything else besides maybe trying to grab her.

As my sub: Hit her with a decent C button and watch as her barrier drops down to zero, probably eating a combo for it in return.
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>>158536061
I'm not a big fan of Nobunaga. He sounds a little whiny at times.
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>>158536603
He wasn't anything special until I heard Naoto's lines. Hype delivery can shift around a VA for me since it at least implies some level of range but I can't say I'm the hardest to please on that end. Seth from UniB had Yuki Kaiji's voice and I never liked him to start but his Seth delivery was actually really nice.
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>158516470
Don't you mean 24000 damage?
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>>158536256
throw, block, or jump out
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Who thought it would be a great idea to take Makoto's special gimmick and make it better? How am I supposed to tell who's who
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>>158536256
Depends on what kind of movement options your character has. For example, teleports or Rachel's wind. Usually, the strategy is just to run away. Air dashing will probably get you Anti-Aired because they are used to people doing that, so use unique movements. Rapid canceling invincible moves into throws works pretty well too.
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>>158536256
Either grab if you can or just run
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>>158537231
So Mai has great normals, good damage and is crazy easy to play.

What's the point of Ragna again?
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>>158517632
Seems legit.
Azrael's 32000 is only based on his level 1.

>>158518031
Litchi is that strong because she is absorbing the boundary.

>>158518034
Nu is that powerful because of her will to live.
Lamda is that powerful because she was influenced by Nu.

>>158517859
She already has an advantage over humans. She is a beastkin and is naturally super powerful.
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>>158537567
Ask fucking Mori you whiny cunt
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>>158537567
So is Mai free to try out, or do i have to spend money on a character i potentially won't like?
>>
has there ever been a DLC character that wasn't at the least pretty good if not outright busted
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>>158537785
Es
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>>158537785
SFV ones
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>>158537775
8 dollars
>>158537785
Wasn't Terumi ass?
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>>158537709
Azrael removes his limiters in the Astral. No tattoos.
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>>158537715
What's the matter? Mad because I pointed out how pointless your husbando is?
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>>158537961
I don't play Ragna you fucking idiot.
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>>158537785
Terumi and CS Platinum
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>>158538009
So much hostility. You'll hurt my feelings at this rate, anon.
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>>158470275
>>158515997
>>158516102
Mai doesn't really sound like Hayamin during matches, dunno what it is.
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>>158537828
>>158538129
1.0 Terumi was alright in terms of reward, then he got nerfed and nerfed again.
He wasn't great but I dare say he wasn't shit when he was first released.
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>>158538326
Hayamin doesn't work all that well for these type of characters. A bit too genki and not enough ojou
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>>158538326
Hayamin does have range. She can sound more serious and use a deeper voice.
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>>158537023
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>>158538427
And yet, Makoto's the top tier one now.
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>>158538473
Makoto really isn't top. She's like high B, or low A. Which is good considering most of the cast is B or lower.
Hibiki still has worse pressure and still bad pokes with the exception of j.C
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>>158523404
What is HK?
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>>158538737
Harmonic Kansas.
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>>158524140
Streaming where? Is that some PS streaming service or something I hear you kids use nowadays?
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>>158523404
I don't think it's fucked anymore.
I can see Player Matches now. Ranked only had 3 people when I checked but it's still more than the 1 or 0 from before.
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>>158539017
No one really ever plays ranked. It'll get more populated with the NA release though if you want to grab that trophy from it. White people love ranking for whatever reason.
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>>158538876
Okay, what does whiffing mean?
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>>158534727
but don't forget that she is lowtier waifu bait and to collect your free wins!
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>>158539205
It's slang term for when you drink three shots of whiskey and do the Macarena backwards.
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I'm gonna do it /blaz/.
I'm gonna spend 8 dollars to make people angry.
I'm going to get good.
And then I'm going to bully you all, with my Mai.
Prepare yourselves.
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>>158539205

It's a sweet guitar riff.
>>
Mai's special interactions:

Noel: Mai!? What’s up with that outfit!?
Mai: Um… Is a long story… or a short story…
Mai: You’ve become strong. You are quite different, Noel.

Tsubaki: Wait, Mai! What an outfit you wear!
Mai: Well… There is a deep reason for this…
Mai: As I thought, Tsubaki is incredible.

Makoto: Oh my, that is quite an stimulating outfit
Mai: Makoto… Your eyes are kind of scary…
Mai: As I thought, that really are an incredible physical ability

Mai: I would like to have a match against you, Senpai.
Jin: This isn’t the military academy. I’m sorry, I don’t have time to play with you.
Mai: Fu… Just what one could expect from you, Kisaragi-senpai.

Kagura: Oh, oh, these have grown quite nicely.
Mai: Colonel Mutsuki, your expression have changed from what I saw you have before…
Mai: What should I do… I sent the top of the duodecim flying…

Mai: N, Noel..! What’s up with that outfit…!
Mu: T, that’s my line.
Mai: How surprising. For Noel to have this kind of power.

Mai: Incredible, so that is the true form of Izayoi that is being handed down withing the Yayoi family.
Izayoi: Mai, if there are justice in you also, embrace it.
Mai: That was close. It really was just barely

http://amatsumugi89.tumblr.com/post/152368136653/could-you-perhaps-translate-mais-special
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>>158539516
I didn't think you could honestly outbland Naoto
>>
Mai arcade summary:

http://amatsumugi89.tumblr.com/post/152366804598/mais-arcade-illustrations-and-amanerelius
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>>158539178
Ranked is convenient when I just want some quick matches and don't want to find a player room or spend 10 minutes in the arcade lobby looking for an open one / siting at an open one waiting for someone to play me
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Who are the top 3 biggest gorilla characters in CF?
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>>158539373

My body is lady
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>>158539373
I want Mai to bully my dick.
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>>158539571
Mai doesn't do anything confirmed
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>>158539570
At least she's not as repetitive as him.
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>>158539571
>Relius actually goes "literally who" when Mai confronts him

ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>158527292
I agree, her eyes look really weird. With how oddly broad her shoulders look and her tits are so much larger than they are in her select screen makes you wish they would have had somebody quality check her art in storymode.

Then again, Platinum's eyes also look pretty wonky at times.

>>158527538
Mai's tits are drawn to big in the image. Cover her lower torso and it will give the illusion that her shoulders are much wider than Makoto's.
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>>158539629
Nine, Az, Mai
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>>158539768
What exactly does that mean?
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>>158539728
>AND THEN I TOLD THEM THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH NINE AND THEY SHOULD JUST BLOCK
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>>158539629
Izanami, Azrael, Nine
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>>158539917
Take a shot every time he mentions that a character reminds him of someone he knows or says something along the lines of "What is with this world?!" or "This world sure is weird!".
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>>158540035
I'd take that any day over Mai's little reunion with her little friend circle.
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>>158540191
It's nice to see Mai interact with the people she knows. A pity she didn't get interactions with other characters she knows like Platinum, Tager or Kokonoe.
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>>158540035
>Take a shot every time he mentions that a character reminds him of someone he knows
Thats 3 shots if I'm remembering right

>or says something along the lines of "What is with this world?!" or "This world sure is weird!".
4-7?
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>>158540191
It's try, neither really have much going for them in terms of personality or lines. Add in Es and you have the Holy Trinity of Empty, Superfluous Dialogue.
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>>158540268
That's natural for her to act that way to previous acquaintances.

And it's natural in the same way for Naoto to act like a fish out of water. You'd hope for something interesting yet the dialogue is just straight out of RH/VH
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The issue with Mai and Naoto is that they really have nothing to contribute. Naoto knows literally nothing. He is, by a wide margin, the most clueless member of the cast. He knows nothing of how this world works or what it's going through. His sub-arc is literally just him wandering about at random, contributing absolutely nothing of value whatsoever until Es shows up and tells him to "do something", after which he randomly jumps into a random Cauldron, finds Ragna going berserk completely by chance and gets his assistant kicked, calming Ragna down. Apparently, that was the sole reason for his presence.

Meanwhile, Mai is a literal nobody who has had absolutely no involvement in the proceedings for the last three games so when the end of the world is approaching and everyone is busy fighting literal gods, she has precisely nothing to offer.
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>>158540731
Most of the roster is sidelined in CF.
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>>158540731
>Mori chose these two over Jubei
THE MAD MAn
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>>158540731
who cares nerd
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>>158540861
Mori literally chose 35 characters over Jubei, so don't bitch about Naoto and Mai.
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>>158540832
That's true. But at least their dialogue isn't quite as dull.
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>>158529071
> Mai tells Makoto that her eyes look scary
I'm not sure Mai should be talking about having scary eyes.

>>158529334
Shiori never fingerbanged her, she just grabbed her by the pussy,
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>>158540832
The quintessential Maifag comeback to the relevance question
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>>158540939
Shiori only grabbed her tits.
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>>158540985
If you think Mai shouldn't be in the game then the same applies to plenty of other characters. There's no reason to single her out.
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>>158529948
>>158533847
Does this make me a Maifag?
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>>158540896
i dont actually care man chill but its a little funny and everyone knows it.
That a character everyones been begging for isnt in after all this time its funny
The only way it could be funnier is if we got Robo Ragna or like a straight up GG character at this point
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>>158533301
>>Mai recognizes Platinum and calls her Bell
What is this from? Interaction between Mai and Platinum in arcade mode? If so, could you provide a video as proof?
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Convince me to shell out 16 dollarydoos on Es and Mai, which is more than I paid for the game.
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>>158540832
But they were at least relevant at somepoint or another
They were taggedin at the least
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>>158541186
>Convince me to shell out 16 dollarydoos on Es and Mai
No
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>>158541142
Not a video, but it should be good enough.
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>>158541186

Invincible

upback
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>>158539178
>>158539610
Ive never understood why people like big rooms or the goofy virtual arcade lobby

I just want to get games goin as fast as possible, not watch random people or wait around in a virtual chat room and deal with even more loading and such
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>>158541225
Mai was relevant in her two spinoff series and in Remix Heart Gaiden in CPE. If anything these allowed for a greater focus on her than some of the characters that have subplots that run parallel to the main story have ever received.
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>>158541569
And it amounted to fuckall
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>>158541121
>Robo Ragna
Ragna-tan was already a thing, but he blew up.
>>158541142
http://amatsumugi89.tumblr.com/post/152366804598/mais-arcade-illustrations-and-amanerelius

I don't have a video, but I trust the translator anyway.
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>>158541680
That depends on your perspective.
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>>158541536

i don't get it either

fuck normies
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>>158541748
All those volumes of manga amounted to her getting oneshotted by Hazama, wow such payoff!
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>>158540342
>singling out Es, Mai, and Naoto
>when Lambda and Nu have robotic nondialogue for 90% of the cast
What's personality to you is emptiness to another
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>>158541536
I like the sense of community a lobby brings. Specifically player lobbies feel more personal, and more likely to help someone, rather than a 1 on 1 in ranked or the arcade lobbies where the only people seeing the match are you and the opponent, with both of you trying your hardest to fuck each over with and hope they don't learn to counter whatever your doing.
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>>158541887
shut up stupid snakeposter
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I can't believe the finale of this series will be Mai Natsume's Adventures in Irrelevancy.
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How do i get 64 Yen without buying another $10 code jesus christ
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>>158542301
You mean Variable Heart? Nah. BB will probably have more spinoffs, like another Spiral Shift or Bloodedge Experience.
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>>158542137

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>158542519
So it'll end in either another prequel or a generic light novel.
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>>158542623
Yep. Unless Mori's new series bombs and ArcSys has to run back to BB.
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>>158542574
stupid susanposter
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Next novel will star Homura and it'll reveal that she once met Ragna the Bloodedge in the past.
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Next novel will be about how Makoto stole ragna's sword
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>>158542949
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>>158542949
>Makoto the Bloodedge will be the next DLC character
What a time to be alive
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Next novel will be about how Relius and Hazama went on a road trip
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>>158542748

WAGA NA WA TERUMEN
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Day. One. Mai. Gimmicks.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3qGLADIMuI

>>158541442
>>158541746
Thanks!

According to the translation, apparently Mai since Mai was a grimoire, Relius could simply take control of her body and make her unable to move.
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>>158544193
How come he never did that with Ragna? Ragna's right arm was a Grimoire, so he could have paralyzed Ragna's arm whenever he wanted, right? Or is the Azure Grimoire simply immune to that sort of thing?
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>>158544325
If even Terumi can't disable the Azure Grimoire after it got the Idea Engine, then I doubt Relius can.
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>>158544325
>>158544193
I wanna be a grimoire too
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Are there any pictures or videos yet of Mai being electrocuted ?
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>>158542301
Irrelevant? Variable Heart give us more info about Platinum's origin.

>>158540731
> Mai is a literal nobody.
Mai did matter, she mattered to Platinum. If the translation is to be believed, Mai seemed to be instrumental in keeping the child from disappearing.
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>>158545408
Anon, Platinum the Trinity is hardly the biggest plot ticket around. I mean, Carl is Relius' son but he's kind of a worthless nobody as well.
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>>158544325
Wasn't it revealed that what was in Ragna's arm was just a fake grimoire?
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>>158545620
There's no such thing as a "fake Grimoire". If it lets you use Ars Magus, it's a Grimoire.

Ragna and Terumi's Azure Grimoires are "fakes", in that they're supposed to mimic the "true" BlazeBlue, the Book of Blue Blaze. But they're still true Grimoires in their own right, and are basically the most powerful Grimoires around prior to the materialization of the "true" BlazBlue.
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>>158516102
Es has a better one.
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>>158533847
>generic idolshit
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There is nothing more that I hate more than shit that just requires mad amounts of practice

I refuse to believe this is that hard, i have to be doing something wrong to have spend this much time on it and only gotten to maybe 15% consistency at best

Fucking rising fang 5a link will be the bane of me..
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>>158545472
You seem to be confusing being a nobody, with being a nobody to anybody.

Carl's actually affects somebody, he affects the fate of his sister. His actions directly puts the final nail in her coffin.

Question: In the end did Platinum herself have all that much relevance to the final outcome of the story? If Platinum had disappeared then Trinity would have disappeared sooner... but did Trinity have any relevance?

It doesn't matter really matter though. Saving Platinum is plenty important on it's own.
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>>158546209
Anon, you and I both know that there are only maybe dozen "somebodies" in this series.
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>>158546286
I'd argue that there are only three or four but hey.
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>>158541950
So story and character development only amount to anything in your eyes if the character becomes really strong?
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>>158547203
Well the main problem is that getting one-shot also means that she's unable to contribute anything from that point on.
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>>158544325
Ragna's grimoire is different. And Mai's entire body is a grimoire, unlike Ragna who only has a grimoire arm.
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>>158547398
That one arm is worth a hundred Mais though.

Every cell in Ragna's body is worth more than Mai. To Noel.
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>>158542301
Mai has her own story which is revealing information about the BB setting and we don't know what its final outcome and consequences will be. Why are you so offended by it?
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>>158547248
Getting one-shot only means that if the character ends up dead.
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>>158547615
You'd have a point.

Except Mai still didn't contribute anything after that anyway, so it's not really a factor here.
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>>158547667
It would have been preferable if Mai had been better integrated into the plot of CF, but she is the protagonist of two spinoffs. By that logic one would consider Es to be pointless since in the end she fails to stop the Susanoo and the story would have played out the same without her. Naoto also isn't critical to the story. One can't call these character pointless though since they are important in their own stories.
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>>158548237
Naoto spends the majority of his story wandering around randomly until Es says vague shit to him and he just happens to wander into Ragna going berserk. His only contribution is getting his ass kicked so Ragna could calm down.

Es was primarily an exposition fairy who appeared to give answers that no one else could arrive at.
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>>158548237
Mai had no significant ties to the Sankishin or Ragna. I doubt there was much she could have contribute no matter what Mori did. The story ultimately boiled down to just a few characters and Mai simply lacks the plot ticket necessary to be a big part of it.
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>>158547248
Kagura showed up and then told Mai to protect Homura. If somebody had shown up to kill Homura then she would have contributed. So the problem wasn't that Mai lost to Hazama, it was that she didn't get a chance to do anything else because Kagura was making sure her ass was kept out of harms way. Just a game theory, but I think it far more likely this was all done because he knew taro liked Mai, so he wanted to keep her safe as a favor to his relative. It's what any real bro worth the name would have done.

>>158547469
No, if her Grimoire works the way it is hinted at, Mai could have become an Azure grimoire. Relius even says something along those lines when he says that she could have been a vessel.
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Black Onslaught or MUST DIE, /blaz/?
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>>158549426
Yeah, Mai could have never played an important role in CF unless they had her pull a Celica and hijacked the plot of the game.

In the end the core story centers on Ragna, Noel, Jin, Terumi, Rachel and Izanami. You could dispense with the majority of the other characters and still essentially keep the same story.
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>>158549609
Kagura put Mai out of the way because she had nothing more to contribute. It was just a convenient excuse for Mori to take her out of the game once she'd done what was needed of her.

And at any rate, even if she became an Azure Grimoire, it wouldn't have made much of a difference at this stage. Hazama's an Azure Grimoire too, but look what happened with him. It's funny how things worked out. At the beginning of the story, the Azure Grimoire was some all-important Grimoire that everyone wanted. When Hazama was revealed to be one in BBCS, that was supposed to be a pretty big deal. But in BBCF, no matter how many Azure Grimoires there are, the only one that ever actually mattered was the one that was attached to Ragna's shoulder.

Besides, the Azure Grimoire requires an insane number of human sacrifices, so Mai could never have become one. Even if the Grimoire of White Pages could be converted into an Azure Grimoire, that probably never would have happened.
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>>158549830
Well, Celica did have some huge plot tickets, so you can't really compare her to Mai. If Mai had hijacked the story like Celica did, it would have come completely, entirely outta left field. There really is no opening for her at all.
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>>158549658
Black Onslaught II
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>>158549916
It would have been easy to invent a reason for it; e.g. saying that her spear or grimoire was needed to defeat Terumi or something.

Celica could have stayed dead and the story would have worked just fine. Mori admitted that CF became necessary due to the inclusion of Celica in CP, which means that there were no plans originally to introduce her to the story.
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>>158550085
That's irrelevant. The only one who was ever gonna defeat Terumi was Ragna. There is no thematic reason to have Mai be any part of that.

Celica's plot ticket was far bigger than anything Mai could have ever had. Celica was the one who raised Ragna, Jin and Saya. Celica was the little sister of Nine of the Six Heroes, inventor of Ars Magus and the Nox Nyctores. These two factors mean that if Celica were to ever appear in the games, it's impossible for her to not have a huge role. Celica's plot tickets were established since Phase 0. Your ideas for plot tickets for Mai could have only been spontaneously established for the first time in Centralfiction.

Having Mai be a major factor in Terumi's defeat would have been a stupid decision. There are only a handful of characters with the right to defeat Terumi and Mai isn't one of them.

There's also the fact that Mai has fuck-all to do with Ragna's backstory. She's not a member of his family and she has nothing to do with The Origin. This is a story that's centered around Ragna, so anyone with minimal contact with him never had a very good chance of sticking around to the end. Trinity is, admittedly, an outlier, but she was mainly used as a convenient plot device for Jin. In terms of actual story impact, she's honestly more of a prop.
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>>158549426
Actually we don't know that yet. Until it was confirmed in CF, Mai didn't have any ties to Platinum but now all of a sudden she does. From this we can derive that Variable Heart will have Mai interact with "Bell"(Luna/Sena) and with Jubei. Who says she wont run into Ragna again in the new manga?

>>158549830
>Mai could have never played an important role in CF unless they had her pull a Celica and hijacked the plot of the game.
Considering that she was a Pure Grimoire, there was a logical way for her to hijack the game or at least play a major role in it. In theory she could have become another azure grimoire if you are to believe Relius and all the hints that have been dropped in the manga and games. But if that had happened people would have just called her a Mary Sue like they did back when talking about the remix heart manga.
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>>158550441
I'm not saying that having Mai hijack the story would have been a good idea; I was just pointing out that if one wanted to do it, it was possible.

As for Celica, I think the way she was introduced felt pretty forced, which is due to the fact she was never meant to be in this story. Mori had to come up with the idea that a younger version of Celica accidentally made an imprint of her soul in the Boundary and then say that Kokonoe was able to recreate Celica from that imprint. I never liked the way they introduced her.
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>>158550567
Mai running into Ragna won't really make her relevant to his story though. Ragna and Mai barely remember each other at the time of CF. I think one should see Mai as the protagonist of her own story rather than say that the fact she's not important to Ragna's story means that she shouldn't exist.

Sure, it seems likely that Mai could have become an Azure grimoire. But as others have said before in this thread, that wouldn't necessarily make her critical to the story. Ragna already had such a grimoire after all.
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>>158550567
Even if she ran into Ragna in Variable Heart, it wouldn't have been enough. You know who else knew Ragna? The entire rest of the cast.

Let me outline all the top players in BBCF, the characters who played the largest roles or had the most significant impact, and see if you can find a general pattern:
>Ragna the Bloodedge (Protagonist)
>Noel Vermillion (Clone of Protagonist's Sister/God's Other Self)
>Jin Kisaragi (Protagonist's Brother)
>Rachel Alucard (Long-time Friend of the Protagonist)
>Yuuki Terumi (Protagonist's Archnemesis)
>Celica A. Mercury (Time-displaced version of Protagonist's Mom-Figure)
>Izanami (Protagonist's Sister's Drive/Plot Catalyst)
>The Origin (Protagonist's Sister from a Past Life/God/Plot Catalyst)
>Kokonoe (Resident Genius and Convenient Plot Device Establisher/Compass)
>Nine the Phantom (Antagonist/Plot-Catalyst)
>Amane Nishiki (Onlooker/He Who Ties Loose Ends)

The thing is Centralfiction basically revolves entirely around Ragna, so if you don't have a either A) a strong link to him, B) are a major antagonist or C) have some convenient trait that allows you to easily keep the story going (like being a genius with seemingly limitless resources like teleportation devices and universal scanners) or tie up loose ends (like being an Onlooker), you really don't have much of a place here. That's why Mai was never gonna be important. She's got nothing to do with Ragna, nor does she have a convenient trait that lets her bypass certain annoying roadblocks.

And before you say that they could have easily bullshit some way to make her abilities or weapon useful, I mean something a little more practical. In Kokonoe's case, she's basically a convenient GPS/teleportation device/planner. Don't know where to go? She can tell you. Don't know how to get there? She can tell you. Don't know what to do? She can tell you. Her importance in the story is purely for practical reasons. Same for Amane.
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>>158549916
How so? Among the playable characters, Celica only had any real ties to Ragna and Jin.
How did she not feel as if she had been just forcefully shoved into the story? Her character had to literally be revived for her to show up.

Mai on the other hand had already been made to seem super important with a haxx setup if you consider that she was friends with Noel, was the daughter of one of the major powers and had this deus ex machina power.
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There was plenty of things they could have done to make Mai's inclusion affect a lot of the plot.

1. Have her being recognized as her fathers heir and have her act as his representative, forcefully injecting her into matters such as giving orders to Nool officers etc

2. Have her start absorbing powers of other grimoire.

3, have her be yet another target of Arakune.

4. Have Es interact with her since Mai would be a weird entity.

5. Have Nu react oddly to a grimoire and have Mai confuse her for Noel.

6. Since Carl was always sidelined, have her interact with Carl and help him restore some sanity. He always did say she reminded hi of his sister. This would also allow yet another reason for her to confront Relius.

7. Have her be on better terms with Jin. Since she like Taro, they could have had her be around taro alot and by proxy having become friends with Jin.
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What is a Grimoire in BlazBlue again? It's where all the seither magic and dead spikes come from, but it's not actually a magic book is it?
And wasn't Ragna's arm just a decapitated Black Beast?
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>>158551490
It's basically just a tool that lets you use Ars Magus
His Azure Grimoire is his decapitated self yes, but by definition it is what allows him the ability to use Ars, and the ability to tap into the Azure
So it's an Azure Grimoire
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>>158551490
Ragna's arm is the Azure Grimore, the same as Kazuma and Hazama's bodies.
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>>158551267
Because
A) Being friends with Noel is meaningless. Noel's friends aren't important to Centralfiction's plot.
B) The Duodecim are also meaningless. It's the end of the world and humanity's been turned to seithr. Politics are irrelevant here.
C) Her "deus ex machina power" ultimately does not actually have anything to do with the core plot. In the end, the only three powers that truly mattered were: Ragna's Azure Grimoire, the Master Unit and the Susanoo Unit.

This is Ragna's story, centering around Ragna. Anything that has nothing to do with Ragna or isn't immediately necessary for his story (like a certain human GPS/transport) have no place in it.

>>158551385
Duodecim is meaningless. Other Grimoires are meangingless. Arakune is meaningless. Es did fuck-all. Nu did fuck-all. Relius fucked off the the Boundary after chatting with Hakumen. Jin's friends are meaningless.
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>>158551385
These ideas might have given Mai a bigger role, but they would still have been peripheral to the core story, which was about Ragna. All the side-stories were to a large extent sidelined in CF.

Jin was a misanthrope who only ever cared for Tsubaki, so having him care for Mai would have felt forced.

>>158551490
A grimoire is a device that uses seithr as fuel to create magical effects.
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>tired of waiting, make a japanese account to try and buy central fiction on it
>6400 yen

What the fuck
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>>158550930
>Mai running into Ragna won't really make her relevant to his story though.
Who knows? It depends on what their interactions were.

Variable Heart is a means and a chance for Mori to show us exactly what lead up until the first game. So chances are pretty high that Mai could be used as to show us all of this.
I can imagine her running into Bang, Bullet and even Rachel.

>Ragna and Mai barely remember each other at the time of CF.
Wasn't Ragna's quote when he fights Mai "lets see how much you have improved" ?? hinting at that they have met again and possibly sparred.
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>>158551749
What did you expect? Currency isn't universal.
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>>158551676
I think what they are trying to say is that Mai would have felt less like tacked on DLC if they had just given her more interaction with some of the cast members that she knows or at least had some relation to.
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>>158551827

I expected 4500-5000 yen at most given the price the western versions are at

no wonder importing is so expensive, jap prices are pretty steep
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>>158551806
To be honest I'd rather they didn't try to use Variable Heart to show what led up to Calamity Trigger. This is Mai's story after all; having it suddenly become about what Ragna was doing a year before he started wrecking cauldrons would make Mai a side-character in her own story.

That was actually wrong. Mai has no special pre-battle interaction with Ragna. Ragna's system voice when selecting Mai wonders where he met her before, so it looks like he doesn't remember exactly who she is.
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>>158551924
I guess that's what you get for being impatient

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>158552061

>implying I paid for it
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>>158551490
A Grimoire is, for all intents and purposes, kind of like an engine, or a device that channels seithr and uses it to produce certain effects. Essentially, they're tools for using Ars Magus, since humans can't just manipulate seithr without some sort of device or conduit. Anything that can allow the user to perform Ars Magus is, essentially, a Grimoire. The Nox Nyctores are Grimoires.

The Azure Grimoire, in its most basest form, is essentially a piece of the Azure surrounded by a colossal amount of compressed seithr. It is essentially a portable Cauldron that links to the Boundary and is able to access the Azure to some limited capacity. It can also generate a limitless amount of seithr. Due to what it is, it can also function as a Grimoire, meaning that it basically is one. A Black Beast is a Cauldron gone berserk, though there's a little more to it than that.

Ragna's Azure Grimoire is basically the decapitated remnants of the Black Beast. The decapitated Black Beast can also act as a Cauldron to some extent.

Due to the limitless amount of seithr that the Azure Grimoire can generate, as well as its ability to access the Boundary and link to the Azure, the Azure Grimoire is effectively the most powerful Grimoire, allowing the user to utilize just about any manner of Ars Magus thanks to its limitless resources.
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>>158552101
I know you didn't but if you weren't so worried about getting it earlier it would be cheaper.
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>>158552124

so why did hazama keep belittling ragna's grimoire saying it was useless ? it seems to work perfectly fine
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>>158542069
>Robots have robotic dialogue
You may be on to something here
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>>158552269
The point is that their dialog isn't interesting.
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>>158552248
Because Hazama's Azure Grimoire was a perfected version that had the ability to shut down Ragna's own Azure Grimoire. It was only after Ragna obtained the IDEA Engine when he was able to use it without interference.

The Azure Grimoire was, originally, designed as just a tool for creating the Kusanagi. When an Azure Grimoire is merged with a Murakumo Unit, it's theoretically possible to create the Kusanagi. However, if it fails, then it could result in the Black Beast instead. Ragna, however, is special in that he doesn't need a Murakumo Unit to become the Black Beast, since he himself is the original Black Beast.
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>>158545408
We already know that Jin was what kept Platinum from disappearing. Stop trying to make Mai seem more relevant then she actually is.
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>>158517632
That definitely makes no sense, powerlevel-wise. Also, 9K being the lowest number makes me believe that they wanted to meme around so Tsubaki is always going to have the weakest astral's damage just because of that.
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>>158552403

>he himself is the original black beast

wait what
I didn't remember ragna's origin being cleared out, when was this ?
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>>158552464
Wait, shit, you haven't played past BBCS?

Forget what I said.
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>>158552462

>weakest characters at the bottom
>strongest characters at the top
>makes no sense powerlevel wise

???
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>>158552407
Not him but in Mai's arcade mode she's able to perceive Platinum even when others don't thanks to her grimoire and manages to strengthen her existence.
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>>158552516

I did play CFEX's story mode but I don't remember that being mentioned, just that one CG of ragna jin and noel being babies and getting carried out of some kind of research facility
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>>158552124
How is everybody blocking if they can't us Ars Magus? Isn't that blue light an Ars Magus barrier?
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>>158552593
CF reveals that the "original" Ragna was the Origin's brother. He was turned into the Black Beast to fight against her and destroy the world.
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>>158552624
It's a Phenomenon Barrier, and yes, that is also Ars Magus. I think the general idea is everyone is carrying something or other that lets them use Ars Magus, because as I said, humans can't manipulate seithr without some sort of conduit.

The main issue is Naoto, who shouldn't be able to use Ars Magus at all since it doesn't exist in his world to begin with, but if he didn't have it, then that would cause balance issues. Just ignore those kinds of inconsistencies. Es shouldn't be able to use Ars Magus, but whatever, she has Azure abilities, who cares.
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>>158552624
I feel that not everyone's barrier is the same exact Ars Magus, for example Kagura seems to be mostly blocking with his huge sword, the Murakumos block with their petals, and the snakes use Ouroboros.
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>>158552593
Okay, look.

A long time ago, there was a Prime Field War. Blah blah, stuff happened, and humanity created the Black Beast to counter the Prime Fields. The original Ragna was apparently used as the core. The Black Beast was a mindless weapon of mass destruction that couldn't tell friend from foe so it ended up destroying the world. The Master Unit remade the world and Ragna was eventually reborn in it, but due to his link to the Black Beast (or rather, since he actually IS the Black Beast), the moment he gained the Azure Grimoire, it also kind of reawakened that part of him. Basically, Ragna is the Black Beast and the Black Beast is Ragna. All Black Beasts are Ragna, except Touya's version but that was a shitty mini-Black Beast that couldn't do shit.
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>>158552754

Damn, must have completely forgotten about it
I thought the black beast was CT's Nu and Ragna coming back to the past through the cauldron tho, was that always false or did it get retconned ?
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>>158552907
A Phenomenon Barrier is a Phenomenon Barrier. It shuts down physical interference. It's all the same thing.
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>>158552918

is that thing about the war from Xblaze ?
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>>158553045
It's explained in Centralfiction but basically,

The world is a reconstruction created by the Master Unit. The original world is a wasteland and the only thing left in it is the Black Beast.
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>>158552918
>All Black Beasts are Ragna
I don't think ALL black beasts are Ragna, since there also was the black beast that the Azure Shrine Maiden took back to the Boundary.
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>>158553117

So does the original world still exist somewhere ? Is the boundary shared between both worlds or is the blazblue world completely self contained and only the master unit still has ties to the original world ?
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>>158550930
>It seems likely that Mai could have become an Azure grimoire. But as others have said before in this thread, that wouldn't necessarily make her critical to the story. Ragna already had such a grimoire after all.

Ragna only had it in one arm and was always referred to a fake imitation. Maybe Mai would become even closer to what the azure was since her entire body was that of a grimoire?
But not critical to the story? It would have drastically changed the playingfield.

>>158551261
>You know who else knew Ragna? The entire rest of the cast.
No, there are plenty of characters that didn't know Ragna.

>C) have some convenient trait that allows you to easily keep the story going
Well she is the Pure Gri--

>before you say that they could have easily bullshit some way to make her abilities or weapon useful
... well her abilities could easily have been made useful but that aside she also come with other benefits. She is the heir to one of the major power in the world of Blazblue and seems very familiar with how it operates. As a waifubait for lesbians, she has the her own personal ninja at her disposal. Shiori would have been more than happy to gather information at Mai's behest. So what could Mai have contributed with? Intel. How did Ragna find all those Murakumo units? Where did he get the info from? This could have been supplied by Mai. I'm not saying it was, just that this could have been possible.
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>>158553329
You're not really getting what I'm saying.

Is Mai a very close friend of Ragna's? His sister? His mom? His aunt? His niece? His lover? Does she have any major tie to Ragna at all? No? Okay then. Does she have some trait or ability that would be able to eliminate a major fundamental roadblock to Ragna's quest? And I mean FUNDAMENTAL. Kokonoe was basically a GPS/car. She told him where to go and gave him the means to get there. This was a very basic, very fundamental necessity, because otherwise Ragna would have no idea where to go, what to do or how to get there and it would have caused the story to grind to a halt. Ultimately, that's the reason why Kokonoe, Amane and Trinity had such large roles: Because they fulfilled some niche that made it possible to continue progressing the story. Practical necessities. To put it another way, in order to be important in BBCF's story, you either need to be important to Ragna personally in one way or another, you need to be a major antagonist, or you need to be someone that Ragna requires immediately and literally cannot progress without.

Also, the Murakumo Units were inside Cauldrons. Every time he destroyed a Cauldron, he killed a Nu.
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Luna sure is worried about big tits. Though it makes sense considering who Jubei married.

By the way, Relius uses sorcery in Mai's arcade mode to teleport her.
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>>158551676
A.) Not so. Say Noel had to choose between a best friend and Ragna? That could have allowed some relevance.
B.) Not so in the beginning. Ragna still had to eat, sleep and get info.
C.) Her deus ex machina power could have hijacked the plot. It would have allowed her to replace Ragna as the Azure Grimoire.

D.) Yes yes we get it. Only Ragna has meaning since he is the protagonist. Everyone else just caters to his Dick Spiko.

I mean seriously what do you want? The way BlazBlue is written, it all revolves around Ragna. But even so, even though the subplots don't necessarily affect the final outcome, they are still important in their own right. Why should I care about the world of Blazblue if all there is to it is Ragna?
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>>158553169
>>158553169
The Black Beast in the Boundary was the original Black Beast that humanity created. The current world is a reconstruction spanning an unknown span of time. If the point when the Azure Shrine Maiden met the Black Beast takes place within that scope, then that would easily allow it to be the same Black Beast.
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>>158553472
Because Centralfiction is Ragna's story. How are you not getting this? And Mai couldn't have hijacked it anyway. Ragna was the Centralfiction, not Mai.

And Mai get her own little sub-scenario, same as with everyone else.
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>>158553391
If Noel is Ragna's sister then yes, Mai is a very close friend of Ragna's sister. She was also an underclassman of his younger brother. It seems possible that she befriended his master Jubei.
Eliminate a fundamental roadblock? Information gathering?

>Kokonoe was basically a GPS/car.
No, that was only n the games. How did Ragna get info before the games? Who funded him? Who provided him with transportation and shelter?

>The Murakumo Units were inside Cauldrons. Every time he destroyed a Cauldron, he killed a Nu.
So how did he find the cauldrons?
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>>158553817
From Rachel and Jubei. I thought this was already established. Finding the Cauldrons of each Hierarchical City is very easy. You just have to find the NOL Branch and make it down to the lowest level. It's not rocket science.

And he walked. He walked through seithr-filled forests where he knew that he wouldn't run into anyone and he walked. He didn't receive funding or transportation from anyone.
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>>158551749
>6400 yen
That really isn't all that much for anew game. Where I live new games usually land somewhere around 8200 yen for the more costly ones.
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>>158552949
The Nu/Ragna black beast was later on. That was only a hundred years prior to the current BB timeline, the original black beast was hundreds of years prior.
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>>158553226
>So does the original world still exist somewhere ?
No, the original world (of BlazBlue) was completely destroyed.

>Is the boundary shared between both worlds
Yes, the Boundary connects all the worlds.

>or is the blazblue world completely self contained and only the master unit still has ties to the original world ?
The Master Unit can observe all worlds, but I don't think it did anything to them because the Origin only had a vested interest in interfering with the reconstructed BlazBlue world.
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>>158553990
>From Rachel and Jubei. I thought this was already established.
From what I can see, this is the first time it was mentioned in this thread. I don't remember Jubei or Rachel providing him with such info though.

>It's not rocket science.
Fine, then how about intel and layout of the actual NOL branches?

>And he walked. He walked
So he walked all over the world? Seems kind of time-consuming if you ask me.

>>158553643
Sorry, you seem to have misunderstood something here. We aren't talking about what happened, we are talking about what could have happened. You do know what hijacking a story entails right? It means that the story and pretty much the role of the protagonist is hijacked by another character/plot.

So yes, if a character hijacked the story, then it would have been hijacked.
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Is it just me, or does Mai look shorter in this image? Did she grow taller later on meaning that she was shorter than 162cm during her stay at the academy?

>>158553407
has anyone uploaded a playthrough of Mai's arcade mode anywhere yet?
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>>158554450
Well I'm sorry then, because that's never what I was talking about. We seem to be having two different conversations.

From what I recall, we were talking about a hypothetical meatier role for Mai in BBCF. That's all I've ever been talking about from the very beginning.

Incidentally, Jubei's the one who told Ragna about the Cauldrons and showed him what happens when you destroy one. Jubei's also the one who directed Ragna to Kagutsuchi before Calamity Trigger. Prior to Calamity Trigger, Ragna only managed to destroy a few Cauldrons.

The only real form of transportation between Hierarchical Cities for most normal folk is via airship, and Ragna can't ride those due to the attention he'd attract. That's why he had no choice but to go on foot.
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Who is Bell?
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>>158555094
lolikumo
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>>158555158
She's not a Murakumo Unit. 'Cause she doesn't have one.
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Name ONE reason why I shouldn't just main Nine.
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>>158555645
You will be kicked out of every /blaz/ lobby if you play her and the same goes for if you play Mai.
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>>158555869
Good idea
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>>158555869
not seeing the problem
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>>158544831
Here you go. Electrocuted Mai.
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>>158552407
As stated by this guy:
>>158552571
Mai was what originally stopped Platinum from disappearing. Without her, by the time Jin got involved, it is possible that Platinum would have already disappeared.

>>158554628
>From what I recall, we were talking about a hypothetical meatier role for Mai in BBCF.
Yes? and if she had hijacked the story, she would have indeed gotten a "meatier" role. I was never saying it would have been a good idea, I was saying that in theory it could have been easily been done if Moire had decide it was more profitable.

But yes the point is M00t. It doesn't really matter. There was a lot of things that could have been done differently that would have made the games better and/or at least not made the rest of the cast so irrelevant.
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>>158554614
Mai fans would have creamed themselves if Amane transformed him into a teenage boy.
Wasted opportunity.
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I just want everyone to know that despite Es and Mai being fucking annoying to fight more than Celica and Naoto, Celica and Naoto are far FARRR more important to the game's plot and to the series as a whole, Mai and Es are not, they might as well not of fucking existed in the first place, not a single thing they did, not a single thing in their plots mattered on the grand scale, their stories are self contained and references to them are just that, references. It's not like they're good well written characters either, Es is just a big tits lambda without the brother complex and Mai is just a polite girl with big honkers and a spear. They're so boring that in Blazblue, where everybody is a little crazy to an extent, they remain bland and non interesting to see interact with anyone because we know what they'll say and do before they say it. So with the deareset sincerity go fuck yourselves you goddamn waifufags from Xblaze and Remix/Variable Heart, you wanted the heroines of those stories in, you got them and they're bland, boring and serve very little purpose but you got them. I hope you're happy. I look forward to the whining in a few years when they're cut along with Noel, her sisters and her other friends since Mori doesnt want to write them anymore.
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Shhhhhhhh. Litchi's sleeping.
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>>158557745
How bad did a Mai player just body you
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hibiki is probably the most irrelevant character in blazblue but i still love him
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KynBGGjqM04

I still had Terumi bros block pressure loaded from like a week ago. Used Mai 214 to get out of all of it. This is going to be infuriating to play against since it seems to get out of any pressure you do. Anyone that autopilots and leaves a frame gap is also going to eat a ch from whatever 214~a, b or c she followsup with.
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>>158559162
It's interesting to see how it seems they brought over the Persona option select, and how it looks like you're gonna have to use the Persona strats to beat it
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>>158558694
S-shut up. That has nothing to do with this.
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>>158557789
WAKE UP YOU STUPID BITCH
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>>158559162
Y'all weren't kidding, that is a Sonic theme holy shit
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>>158559247
It does lose to mid/standing attacks, but if the gap is big enough, she still gets out. I'm not sure the exact gap though. It does counterhit if you hit her during the startup.
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>>158559337
This, Mai's theme legit sounds like something you'd hear while zipping through a beach stage like Seaside Hill or something.
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>>158557065
Your making assumptions there. Just accept that Mai was the most useless character that if you removed would have no impact on the story at all.
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>>158554614
It makes sense that Mai would grow between the time she was 15 and 19.

>>158555094
The PFD Mai met in Variable Heart.
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>>158559390
https://twitter.com/MEESO_BB/status/791638569437818880

Nine autopilot scrubs gonna be mad.
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>>158559692
Mai confirmed for Nine's counterpick along with Platinum.
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>>158559692
Oh no. Oh nononononono. No fucking way am I losing to some goddamn side character
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Why can't the west catch up to the east?
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>>158559603
Not him but that hardly applies just to Mai.

By the way, Hibiki is the character that does the least in the story.
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>>158559692
Buff kunzite.
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>>158559941
Carl and Valk should get kunzite
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https://twitter.com/MEESO_BB/status/791590182625705984
For what purpose
Gee mori! I wish my main got super armor for standing on one leg!
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Where are you now, "Mai is lowtier waifubait" poster?
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>>158560060
WHAT THE FUCK

NERF MAI NOW

DELETE THIS
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Time to join the Mairines.
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>>158557745
>in Blazblue everybody is a little crazy to an extent
I wish we could get the crazy ratio back up to CT levels. Back when Jin sincerely wanted to rape/kill nii-san, and we didn't really know what Ada was, which led me to think Carl was just a headcase, calling it his sister. There's not a single new CF character that's nuts.
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>>158557745
>are far FARRR more important to the game's plot

I know this is bait but I wonder if there's anyone out there who would actually give a shit about this in a fighting game
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>>158560282
800 yen p
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>>158560287
Hibiki, Nine, Izanami are all pretty crazy.
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>>158560282
Foolish
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>they removed the COUP DROIT THAT GUARD BREAKS from the wiki
goddamn dustloop
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>>158559867
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>>158560363
Nine and Izzy might be megalomaniacs, but they're perfectly sane. With Hibiki you can make the argument, especially in his arcade mode, but does he ever actually do anything?

Then again I guess it comes down to your definition of "crazy". Relius turned his wife and daughter into machines, yet I still consider him sane.
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>>158560483
Why does Kagura want to fuck Noel so badly? The guy is so desperate he thought she had a sibling fetish and tried to capitalize on it and got a punch in the face for it twice
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>>158560857
Izanami and Nine both want to destroy the world. They may be rational rather than drooling lunatics, but I'd still say they're insane.

Hibiki's insanity never comes up in the story mode.
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Can we all agree that Nine is low tier and needs mad buffs?
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>>158555094
Bell is the chibi-loli Mai meets in Variable heart. Not all that surprisingly I was correct as it turns out that Platinum really was that loli two years prior. We still have to find out the specifics though.

Was it just the body of Platinum? Or did she already have the souls of Sena and/or Luna inside her back then?

Bonus round:

perhaps that shota vampire is Sena? That would be hilarious.
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>>158561384
>Not all that surprisingly I was correct

You're a pompous ass.
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>>158560928
he closet homo
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>>158560928
Why wouldn't he want to fuck Noel.
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>>158556293
Thanks for the image.
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>>158561384
It's not them it's just the bell she saw that reminded her.
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>>158561675
How exactly would you get her Nii-sama and friends to approve of you? In fact, you'd probably need to get her other Nii-sama's approval as well because he's tsundere.
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>>158561675
>ugly flat girl with no talents
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>>158561675
Cute boy
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>>158562749
Cuter than Hibiki.
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>>158560857
Does Hibiki ever even act insane? I thought most of his arcade mode was him trying to prevent a world where Kagura dies while villains keep insisting he's actually a psycho murderer, but he always denies it and clearly hasn't let that affect his behavior in story mode. The craziest thing he's done is trying and failing to cut up Noel, and even then you could argue desperation from trying to protect the one person who matters to him.
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>>158562231
You can't do anything get nii-samas' approval, it's that simple. Hypothetically if you did you'd also need her approval, which is a completely different mountain to climb.
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>>158562590
She has a talent for giving me an erection.
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>>158562960
Why not just ask Ragna? "Say, your sister is cute, do you mind if I try to bang her?" What's the worse he could do?
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>>158562851
Kokonoe telling him that killing Noel will end the world and him replying that he'll turn himself into an Observer, which is impossible and which causes Kokonoe to question his sanity. Realizing that his attacks can't harm Noel and deciding that maybe if he just keeps on stabbing her she'll somehow die eventually.

The fact that every villain tells him that his honest wish is to murder Kagura and his wish CG shows just that is also pretty indicative that he does want to murder Kagura deep down and is just in denial.
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>>158562818
BLASPHEMY.
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>>158563104
Shit nigger fuck with with the black beast at your own peril.
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>>158563104
"There is no hell, only darkness" ASTRAL FINISH
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>>158562590
>flat
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>>158563152
>Only I get to kill you Kagura-sama.
I'd love to see him become Kagura's Jin.
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>>158563152
well it wouldn't take a nutjob to secretly want to kill your unfaithful ingrate of a husbando
i'm more impressed that hibiki still consciously wants to be a faithful wife despite it all.
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>>158561675
>Kaname Nagi
New Sena x Luna doujin when?
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>>158563593
I interpreted it more that Kagura is the only person he /doesn't/ want to kill, but killing him would cut basically Hibiki's only tie to humanity and then he could finally become the "emotionless killer" he secretly wants to be. His loyalty to Kagura and Kagura's ideals are the only thing humanizing him and keeping him from becoming the fully cold-blooded assassin he was raised to be.
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>>158557683
Why would I want Mai as a boy? Mai looks better as a young girl. She looks very cute.

>>158559551
I personally get a "summertime with teenage girls at he beach" vibe from it.

>>158559679
Generally most girls stop growing taller around that age. But what I was getting at was her height. If she is 162 now, what was her height back then? She looks at least to be 5cm shorter in that pixel, so 157cm? What would that have made Noel back then?
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>>158564193
>5cm shorter in that pixel
lets not go down this road
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.>>158564436
Eh? whyyyy noot?

Just look at that babyfat on her face and how round and thin she looks. She looks more like a 14 year old than she does a 15 year old though.
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>>158563826
It wouldn't get scanned anyway.
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Izanami going from smug to scared shitless was great. The best part is, it's her own fault, she could of became like Nu and Lambda, but she instead just followed what she was made to do without trying to see things from another perspective.
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>>158563692
What is this game?
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>>158564568
>being able to tell the age of anime girls down to the year

Dude, stop.
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>>158564568
Do not.
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Someone said that Mai's fully charged spear can go through Ribcage. Is that true?
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>>158564832
2D girls are superior. Being able to tell recognize their age and figure out their height is pretty normal things. The hard part comes when trying to figureout what type of underwear they wear and what their favorite food-types are.

I look at Mai and I think to myself, there is a girl that if she wasn't pressured by others would wear a modest two piece bikini at the beach while still being embarrassed about it.

Dude there is nothing strange about any of this. We're all friends here.
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>>158517632
How is Susan stronger than Hakumen when he has the Power of Order and Ookami?
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>>158565040
>Dude there is nothing strange about any of this.
this is now my favorite post
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>>158564981
It would make sense, as Ribcage uses the Barrier meter to automatically guard point attacks. You can't guard point things that are just straight up unblockable like Hakumen's Yukikaze slash, so they ignore Ribcage.

That said, while I own Mai thanks to a friend, I can't confirm any of this until I get home, so don't take it for gospel.
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>>158565568
Nice. Thanks.
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>>158564778
the kagura dating sim
http://sixfolddimension.deviantart.com/art/Somewhere-Between-Love-and-Hate-BlazBlue-618371644
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Remove snakes
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>>158559692
>beats Kunzite

I TAKE IT ALL BACK

MAI BEST NEWCOMER HE IS THE HERO WE NEED
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Mai's Arcade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnmVGyhfiJg
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>>158566689
Even if they're cute?
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>>158567126
Somehow her breasts seem fairly normal compared to the more buxom girls.
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Mai is actually really fun to play.
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>>158567268
That's the BB effect. They all seem slutty as fuck until you put them next to all the other people wearing slutwear like it's a normal day.
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>>158567258
Nothing cute about snakes who lack justice. I don't even like their butts.
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>>158567126
Thanks a lot.
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>>158567126
>01:00
>Am I ever going to find what I him...?

>>158567268
They are. She has just large breasts on a thin frame athletic frame.

>>158567572
I wouldn't call her outfit slutty looking. Sexy yes but not slutty.
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>>158567126
Slowpoke here
Why is it in English?
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So is Mai as hittler as people thought she would be?
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>>158567604
I'd say this snake butt is pretty cute.
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>>158568007
Because that's what the uploader set the subtitles to.
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>>158568019
People are going to need to learn how to deal with her command jumps and shit

Characters without shitloads of pressure options are going to hate her
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Prove you were here during summer.
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>>158569117
I want to FUCK Mai
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>>158569117
I remember when Maifaggotry hadn't completely taken over 50% of the threads.

I remember when the original /v/ threads had to come to /vg/ because some faggot kept trying to get our threads deleted.

I remember when the only Maifag was Maiolev.

I remember when I abandoned /asg/ as it died a slow death due to driving out BBfags, waifufags and storyfags.

I remember when BB Alter Memory was announced, and how I prayed that Sugita's hope that it wouldn't be shit would come true.
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I wish I played Hakumen. This Mai player I've been playing against is so autocombo-y, it would've been so fun countering everything.
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>>158569683
Maiolev?
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>>158570003
>not playing ZEA already

Step it up anon
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>>158570226
The original Mai waifufag who is a big fan of the boy turns into girl trope. He's a tripfag with Maiolev as his name. He was/is always in the Boku Girl threads on /a/.

He's also pretty autistic, but by himself not that bad compared to all the shitposting we have nowadays.
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>>158570658
Does he at least play here? Maybe the shitposting can stop if he starts playing with the Mai haters and they start getting along.
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>>158571091
He posts but I doubt he'll play the game when it comes out in NA
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>>158571091
Uh, I don't really think he played BB as much as was a huge fan of Remix Heart. Like, I don't even think he was a lorefag much, aside from being able to remember everything in RH to an autistic level of detail.
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>>158567126
Wow, it's fucking nothing, Mai's an idiot. Litchi told her Relius was dangerous, Makoto told her Reilus was dangerous and she's lucky that Relius had other shit to do at the moment because he hadn't she would of been given a one way trip to the rape dungeon like Makoto got in her CS bad ending. On top of that she knew Hazama was strong and she knew he had a nox yet tried to fight him anyway and got bodied in one half assed attack from him. Look, I know she and Makoto are all friendship is magic characters and all but holy shit, why are they so eager to die for nothing?
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>>158571091
If he plays he'd get turned into Pupwa 2.0
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>>158571091
I asked if he wanted to play but he states he barely plays the actual game
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>>158571091
He doesn't really play, he just really likes genderbend manga and Mai is his waifu.
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>>158571218
He's pretty familiar with BB lore.
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>>158571328
>has a spear that when thrown hard enough explodes with nuke tier power
>why would she try and fight
shit man I dunno
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>>158571471
Really? I didn't see him talk about much except RH related stuff. And RH does go into quite a bit of lore stuff relating to Grimoires.

But I doubt that he's played through all of the story modes, much less XBlaze.
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>>158571630
I talk about other stuff quite a bit. I have played through the story modes, Xblaze and read the translated LNs.
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