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Guy from last thread do you still need that black knight shield?

Awoo~

Painterloli is best.

Is there really an enemy in the dlc that drops slabs or did I get memed? Wiki has nothing

>>158378928
[aggroing intensifies]

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>>158378638
what's with the image?

>>158378638
Who is this?

>>158379020
there are 3 slabs in the dlc, it's not a rng drop

The Corvian at the very entrance of the DLC scared the shit out of me.

Does he have any importance as an NPC?

>>158378991
What's her name though

>>158379047
>>158379049
imageswap bug
Ignore the weebshit and move on

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>>158379095
She's just listed as "The Painter" anywhere there would be a name.

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Reminder that lions work together.

So is the loli making a painted world inside of the painted world? How deep can it go?

So are any of the new weapons good? Why are the strength weapons so fucking boring compared to the rest?

>>158379080
None.
If you warp back to that bonfire he has like 1 line of additional dialogue and that's it.

The NPCs in this dlc suck. The closest thing to a questline is the one who gives you a slab after killing the boss, which is the only indication whatsoever that you've completed your objective.

Why do the buffs on Valorheart and the Crow Knight stuff extend beyond their model?

I want rape porn of Friede

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>>158379228
almost as deep as your ass

So what's a good SL for invasions in the DLC? Does 125 cut it?

>>158379095
Ariamis, most likely.
The world was renamed in the name of Arandiel when she restored the painting with his blood.
This is my headcanon.

>>158378638
>unrelated OP

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Is this DLC worth the money? I couldn't give a rats ass about PvP, is the new area any fun? Snowy places have been done to hell and back.

>>158379279
Clearly he was trying to get the dull ember

>>158379339
60 to 80, anyone near sl 125 would've finished playing the dlc in like a half hour

>>158378638
I don't recognize this dark souls character. Is that a new character from the dlc?

Not important, but if you're playing the dlc and you summon/get invaded by someone who cheated to get in then everyone connected gets the message "YOU DO NOT HAVE THE LISCENSE TO USE THIS CONTENT, RETURNING TO MAIN MENU". You can reconnect just fine afterwards.

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>those bajillions fire trees

>poise patch
>high vitality caster with some 1h mace
>want to test MLGS or the new pyro GS later on
>stat allocation is an actual nightmare

goal is enough poise to tank through a heavy attack. how stupid is it to choose pyro over sorc, especially because of the higher stat investment?

attunement will probably stay around 18-24 for the 3-4 slots. sacrifice a ring slot for havel's ring? I'm not sure what would be the most cost-effective way, because I feel like either equip a spellslot-ring or havel's ring, sacrificing a bit of damage for poise.

>>158379284
Well that sucks.

You can hit him and he stands up, so I stopped there. Dialogue didn't change.

Thought maybe you could lay down emote in some maggot bed for some purpose.

>>158379339
I was getting constant invasions from sl50 last night. Granted, it was almost exclusively raid squads and metafags, but still.

Why does the Crow Talon WA have hyper armor? It does 800 damage and is a true combo. It doesn't deserve shit.

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The most hilarious thing about invading DLC so far seems to be a complete absence of fog gates ANYWHERE.
I've invaded near the very first bonfire where host was turtling with his buddies and simply ran away here, no host, no matter how hard he's carried, will be able to go unscathed all this way with no estus restoration whatsoever aside from random enemy. You can literally invade, lie down here and go afk, it's virtually impossible to lose.

>>158379339
I instantly invade each time at 115

Why is the painter barefoot
Why is 2scythe girl barefoot
Why every girl in this game is always barefoot

>>158379283
Str doesn't deserve to be good

>>158379549
>imploding I didn't go through the dlc without resting at a single bonfire

hp regen da bes

lmao2crab

>>158379513
So youre asking for a havel mage build?

>remove tru combos several patches ago
>add in meme scythe
thanks from

>>158379284
It's still more than what you'd expect from a DLC. The DaS2 DLCs didn't even have NPCs until the third one.

>>158379547
Maybe because it has a slow-ass windup and you're shit if you get hit by it.

Going to be fun for invasions/arena though.

>>158379549
I've lost there but the npc was lagging around like a useless fuck

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How do I get past the gate in the DLC?

I liked this dlc better than aota
Fight me

>>158379668
Try actually exploring.

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oh my god there was a bonfire down here the whole time

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Damn this meme playthrough is a pain in the ass...

Think I might stop at SL50 and do irithyll invasions.

>>158379339
Invading consistently now at sl 120

Just had a plug puller on pc

Why isn't the loli painter here? Do I need to unlock something for her to appear? I climbed the ladder above the ashen one and the room is empty.

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>beat faze 1 and 2 finally
>infinite scythe spinnaroony faze 3 electric boogaloo


also is no summoning allowed in dlc, i have not seen any signs

>>158379689
I've been here for like 2 hours I'm stuckkk

>>158379216
There are no natural inhabitants. The painting has whoever goes there. Even in the first game, there were tons of dead/undead people there already. Could be any random humans, probably there for a long while if they knew about Anor Londo.

>>158379067
Oh, got it. Names were a little fucked up in my head. I kind of doubt Elfreide is Freide's actual daughter though, considering what she said her mother told her and Freide being violently against another painting and locking her up, but then you never actually see Freide's eyes and she can straight up turn invisible for a few seconds.

>>158379447
Prepare for the Great Hollow 2: electric fuck you

>>158379730
you don't see any because casuls are using all the signs

>>158379395
Pros: Great level design, enemies, and boss fights (two). Maybe the best looking area in the gameas well. PVP matchmaking.
Cons: shorter than other souls dlc. Weapons and armor kinda meh. Only one pvp map and no way to pub stomp with friends.

Make up your own mind

>>158379619
Scythe has only l2r1r1 as a new true combo. There's nothing wrong with it. It's as much of a combo as l1l1 for paired weapons

>>158379681
AotA has more good bosses and Gough alone is a more enjoyable character than any of the AoA ones. Level design is far better in AoA.

>>158379819
>Dances With Wolves
>A good boss
please don't

I'm about halfway through and I've spoken to about five NPC's: when does someone give me a new gesture already?

I forgot how fucking much pyromancy cheeses this game like holy fuck.

What level int/fai does the new pyroflame scale to? Seems perfect to be in line with Darkflame GS

>>158379873
lol

Anyone wanna help me kill black flame freide?
drop your sign at the top of the boss stairs


password: dsg

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>friede is resistant to magic in all her forms
>mfw trying to do it as a sorcerer

I get it, you fucking hate Sorcery Miyazaki. Can you fuck right off already?

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Does CE have updated tables yet?
Also found out yesterday you can chop off stray demons legs. Any other bosses you can do similar things with in ds3?

>>158379724
Progress further dude

>>158379887
That's not what I want to hear, anon.

>>158379464
>that low

Lowest I can go is 86 with this build.

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This DLC could have been so much more.
Look at literally all the other even the mini Das2 ones.
Even half of old hunters with just equipment taken into account.

I have to say though that the few usable weapons we got are nice

1. Followers carthas
2. Valor heart
3. New best rapier
4. 640 Ar the scythe
5. Millwood worst weapon art in the game but dat damage axe.

>>158379917
>Also found out yesterday you can chop off stray demons legs

yeah thats like 5 months old news but happy you found it out, its pretty cool

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Ahahahaha, this is hilarious. Literally no fucking chance in hell, they can't even cross the wolf forest let alone go through the corvian village. This is an area for such an extreme griefing i'm amazed how current Fromsoft actually allowed it.

>>158379654
It's some weak ass fucking things jury rigged to your hands, it should barely even stun you if you're armored period, let alone when you're halfway through swinging a giant mallet.

>>158379583
You know why

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>>158379914

I never had those issues, and I ran through her with an MLGS.

>>158379914
Have you tried using Frost to lower her ABS?

>>158379964
>worst weapon art in the game
disregarded

>>158379914
use dark/pyro spells

>>158379914
the big guy can be poisoned though, throwing knifes are based

The way poise works now is the opposite of how it should be working. Since you not being staggered is now based on whether or not you're swinging, small weapons that hit frequently are more likely to hit you between swing animations than large weapons that hit infrequently. Bravo, From.

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>>158379964
>Millwood worst weapon art in the game

>>158379993
Where'd ya get the greatbow?

>>158379964
>5. Millwood worst weapon art in the game but dat damage axe.

What? That weapon art is fucking great. You have to run away from it, it literally staggers you out of attacks, and then if he hits you with the shit-my-pants-run, he can true-combo hit you for free.

>>158378638
Are there any npc invaders in AoA?

>>158379515

that was like the first thing I did

>find sweetly rotting bed
>use spread out gesture
>nothing happens

thanks miyazaki

>>158379993

What SL?

Do you think SL125 invasions will work for the DLC areas? Which area of the DLC is best to invade?

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>>158380041
>run at someone and do nothing do they can hit you
Normal battle cry is better since you don't give up positioning in neutral and it's fast enough to keep the buff up all the time.
That being said i think this is the best axe in the game for str and quality builds.

>>158380075

>actually thinking that anyone ever talks about phase 1/2 when talking about the boss

>>158379283
Valorheart is gimmicky but good. Tricky to use because the guardframes can screw you over and get you guardbroken but godlike if you can use them properly.

Both Crow weapons are hot trash. They might see some utility in duels but they're generally low-damage and underwhelming weapons and everything that makes them unique also happens to be the worst parts of their movesets. They reek of last-second hackjobs to fill a weapon quota as they have lots of buggy hitboxes and weird stun properties that don't make sense.

The flail is hot trash, absolutely garbage. Apparently Miyazaki was angry that people wanted a flail in his game so he gave us this instead out of spite. It's a meme weapon.

The Greathammer is probably the second best GH after the Great Club. The WA is actually useful and essentially functions as a better R2 while the weapon itself has great pure str AR, excellent reach and good weight. It ties the Great Mace for longest reach in class.

The Greataxe is kindasorta trash. Generic moveset, heavy, and its AR is mediocre. It's str/fth and requires stats in both to get decent damage which means that you invest twice the stats of a pure physical GAxe for similar damage. The only notable thing about it is that it's the longest Greataxe in the game that can truecombo while 2H. The WA will never hit anything and is a free backstab every time it's used.

The regular axe is god tier and will be a tourneyfag weapon. The WA is amazing and it has almost 500AR (80 more than the next best axe) with only 40str. It was very obviously designed to be the "go-to" axe and with pvp in mind. Might as well call it the Carthus Battleaxe.

2scythe is fucking amazing. There's too much going on to cover it all in one post, but it's really damn good and clearly absorbed most of the DLC's weapon efforts.

>>158380172
dont care, im just letting you know he CAN be

>>158380081
Just embrace it, anon.
>trying to land a hit on a BKGS user who knows what he's doing with a DSA

>>158380149
i'm at SL100
instant invasions at very first bonfire
>>158380118
it's a side path of the area with milwood knights, there's a bunch of rape trees nearby leading to wolf pack + millwood ambush

>>158379730
Beat it on your own you massive fucking casual.

>>158379964
Rapier is worse than estoc. Unique moves aren't that good

>>158380110

>rich evans peeking through the wormhole

>>158380110
>>158380120
so far everyone who used it on me didn't use it right if so many people claim it to be good.

>>158380254
no, i wanna run the dlc and play overwatch already

>>158380153
you forgot the part where millwood battle axe has guaranteed combo into r1 from its warcry

>>158380081
Larger weapons do significantly more poise damage to compensate. And by significantly more, I mean "so much that 1 hit will break poise unless they stacked the fuck out of vit and superheavy armour" which is okay because at that point they've made a stat investment, and thus a stat-tradeoff, in order to endure that hit.

>>158380236
It just pisses me off that I can hyperarmor through medium/large weapons just fine but get constantly staggered by straight sword r1 spammers.

Do arena medals go higher than gold?

Should I use my SL 112 Refined build in NG+ or my SL 82 Hexer build not in NG+ first for the DLC? I also have an SL 102 Faith build in NG+. Raw Dragonslayer Axe with Lightning Blade as my main weapon.

>>158379993
I just realized how incredible it's going to be to chase little babbies across the snow fields and running them into wolves and tree ganks.

>>158380319
You'll get some real (you)'s with this, good job.

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Did they figure if they would shove wolves into the corner of the entire DLC everywhere you go that it would somehow seem like a longer DLC?

>>158380259
It has higher ar and is only slightly shorter
also it easily fits best on a 10 str 60 dex build with 416 ar.
the weapon art and new moves add more versatility

>>158380334
It's better than i thought then but no one i fought succeeded in not getting smacked first, it's probably becasue i use perseverance

>>158380153
The bullyaxe WA combos into an R1. You can literally spam it as long as you have FP because it has stronger HA than an ultra and will stun people into free damage from any distance. It's a great pressure tool and basically gives a 540AR axe the ability to HA trade.

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>finish second dlc
>visit loli painter
>she finished her painting
>there's a new ending where you can just go with her inside and live in a personal paradise forever

>>158380357
The game's been fucked from day one, this is par for the course.
Still have people claiming ir

>>158380351
See
>>158380357

I reallocated my stats to have 50 Vit to test some stuff and I've been wearing Smough's armor. I can tank large weapon hits just fine and still swing my hammer but straight swords stagger me without fail. Compensate all you want, but that shit shouldn't be happening.

>>158380136
One, and he's pretty cool.

>>158380319
Oh, I'm sorry. Consider killing yourself instead.

>that violin in part 2 of gravetender fight
why did this music go on such a shit boss

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> those fucking delayed scythe attacks

>>158380430
They're in exactly one area.

>>158380219
>axe
>tourneyfag tier

You have no idea what you're talking about. It's better than other axes and the charge is great, but still has axe r1s which even after the buff are worse than CS r1s.
Onyx and Sabre are the ones on a whole different footing

>>158380525
Why did they even waste the time and assets on such a shit boss?
To be honest I would've rather they not even make the gravetender boss, and just have the VH and arenabones looted off the grave for free so they could have directed that 2 hours worth of effort towards making the new gear not shit.

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>NO
>LORDVESSEL
>WEAPON

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>>158380319

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>>158379609
doesn't a havel build involves more than just havel's ring? I need to maintain my cosplay.

the first idea was to go for a noob cosplay; stack up popular armor and maintain 30% load. but through the dark souls series, I never touched offensive pyromancy, so I wanted to give that a try too. now I'm not so sure anymore what I'm doing. 6th character so far, and I just want to do something new.

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>that asshole invader in Priscilla's tower
What fucking stats do you need to deal so much with pyromancy and wield CB.

So guys. Hows that flail you wanted so bad?

>>158380628
>meme whip that not even faith builds will use
t-thanks from

what stats are best for onyx blade? 40/40 fai/int?

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>>158380708
FUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKTYOUERRREEEE

IS BRAWL A FUCKING FREE FOR ALL OR A FUCKING 3 VS 1 SIMULATOR?
I'M NOT EVEN IN THE LEAD FUCK OFF GANGING UP ON ME JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

>>158380597
>post-buff Axe R1s
They're not the best but they're perfectly fine
It's the fact that this axe reaches over 500AR with only pure-stat investment that will make it meta. It's faster than a greatsword and, with warcry active, has as much AR as a 40/40 black knight sword while also having the option to instantly run at someone with total HA and stagger into guaranteed damage. It's also functional 1H and so can be paired with an LK or BK shield.

Axe R1s are not bad enough to detract from these things.

>>158380750
Welcome to le Gank Souls 3

Why three phases? I thought it was a fun surprise at first but it turns out it's just a tedious time-padding gimmick.

>>158380686
I didn't even see him do damage. He rolls sideways after every two hits. Delay slightly and rollcatch him every time.

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>>158380686
oh yeah
that guy's real tough

>>158380750
It's a free for all. There's a good chance someone will be ganged up on. There's 25% chance that someone will be you.

Did you expect two simultaneous 1v1 duels with the winners facing off against one another?

>>158380739
Seriously this shit look like a dead tree branch a kid would use awkwardly

>>158380357
>>158380081
All poise/hyper armor enables you to do is stay in place so your opponent can get more than 2 hits in on you, eventually killing you harder than you're killing them.

>>158380750
>3 VS 1 SIMULATOR

That's an invasion simulator.

>>158379513
>>158379609
>>158380671
But poisecasting doesn't actually work because poise applies only to HA.

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>miracles in arena brawl

>>158380750
You only score if you land the killing blow, so the paradigm is to all jump whoever is the closest to death and compete over scoring the last hit for a point. Once you've identified yourself as the low-hanging fruit, everyone will focus on you because you're an easier point.

>>158380486
>giving promotions

>>158380846
i'm not expecting two 1 vs 1s
i'm expecting it to not be a 3 vs 1 on me the entire duration that i'm alive, though

Are a lot of the Ashes of Ariandel enemies weak to fire?

>>158380520
>One, and he's pretty cool.
Any chance you tell me where he is? I don't want to risk embers

I don't really see anything to complain about with the DLC besides it being short.

The setting is weird and interesting, the enemies are well made, the lore is fun (some of it is actually my favorite in the series) and the actual level design is great because it is so recursive and vertically stacked.

Really the only problem is there isn't a lot of it.

>>158381069
Yes.
Wolves are weak to fire, trees are extremely weak to it and get stunned like Pus of Man.
The humanoid mooks not so much, though.

>>158380486
no

>>158380457
>you will never live inside a freshly created painted world with your reborn crow harem

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even in a 1v2 I manage to score better :^)

also streaming some lvl 90 ish arenas twitch@comfywarrior

>>158381064
you lack FFA experience.
did you have the most health? were there people with the same team name, like bloodshades?

I beat the wolf man but I can't seem to find any ways further to get up that tower, any hints?

>>158381091
nvm, saw it already in the thread

>>158381123
The trees fucking horrify me

>>158381096
Bloodborne DLC movesets compared to das3 DLC movesets

>>158381091
He's >>158380824 this invader.

You know the room with all the fly people? Look around in there for an illusory wall. Looks like a bricked up doorway. Open it and head out. Leads down to Priscilla's former boss room. You fight him there.

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>>158380671

>>158379857
Not him, but the presentation was good and the music was god-tier.
The actual fight was medicocre and easy though. The champion really should have been a player-summon.

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This is actually a loads of damage for an attack like this.
And this is without any fai/int investment.

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Apparently Vilhelm's character was meant to be a woman at some point.

all i want to do is get summoned for the scythe lady boss but theirs nobody here.

>>158381172
Well yeah but thats just bloodborne movesets compared to DS3 movesets In general. Bloodborne always had more in depth and complex movesets than any Dark souls game. It's also the reason they only have like 15-20 melee weapons in total even after the dlc.

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>>158380319

>>158381260
Maybe he was supposed to be like Anri?

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Followers Shield?

>>158380824
>>158380686
>more shit connecting the painted world to chaos
i bet they added this because they hadn't figured out how to actually do shiva's quest

>Lucatiel mask confirming that the bearer of the curse was male

>>158381252
Those enemies are weak to fire.

>>158381249
>Player-summon

There's only been two bosses in souls that have used player summons(unless i'm forgetting), wish there were some more.

god this fucking DLC is so bad

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Rate my cosplay.

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>poise is back guys
>enter arena
>R1 shitters everywhere

wew, DS3 PvP really is something huh.
Back to BloodBorne it is.

>>158381361
Set location, apparently.

I killed those fuckers at the first bonfire for half an hour hoping for one.

>>158380975
>regen build with blessed winged knight halberd

>>158381416
Why, because not that we've all played it the only reason I can see is length.

>>158381146
I had full hp
literally dodging their attacks for 2 mins straight, and yet none of them stopped even when they were not getting hits in
And no, they didn't have any team names

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any decent armor for fashion souls trying to get the milkwood set so I can have the fucking game of thrones look

>Valorheart
>attritioning people out hitting for 150 through "block"

>>158381417
Poisoned/10

>>158381436
you can now stack full havel's to get hyper armor on some weapons that mysteriously had it removed, so things are technically as they once were

>>158381417
nice legs

>>158381249
>chainmom
>good presentation

>>158380219
>The Greathammer is probably the second best GH after the Great Club

The spiked mace is the best GH by a large margin. Huge bleed damage and an actually useful weapon art.

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> go into dlc
> it's a "15 enemies get triggered at once" episode

i thought they'd learn their lesson after ds2

Has anyone figured out how to maximize the potential and damage of the javelin yet?

>>158381361
It's after the snowy pass bonfire where you first meet the loli. In the area with the fuck ton of followers. Just keep looking around there.

>>158381417
use lorian's leggings and try again

Oh man, running around with the new greatbow in 3v3 is some of the most fun i''ve had in Dark Souls pvp

>>158381096
Aside from the overall DLC length, some areas are far too short.

Enemy placement is shaky at times. Why does the Corvian Settlement only have 5 real enemies spread throughout, 4 of which are covering optional detours? Why does the mazelike forest have so many fire-breathing Followers? They're the weakest variant and the easiest to fight -they only function as support for mobs of melee enemies yet 90% of the enemies in that zone are individual torch guys that pull solo.

I felt like the Settlement transitioned too suddenly into the next area, and should have had a bridging zone that gradually lead you out of the filth instead of the stark transition. The next zone and the one after (maze and bugpit) were both too short and uninteresting, the weakest parts of the DLC's level design. The path on the branches down to the Champion boss was also a bit too quick. I felt like there should have been more to the area at the bottom of the roots, in the "depths of the painting" before you reached the boss.

Also the wolves were shitty enemies. Their AI was retarded and they were far too passive, which meant that those like 30-wolf encounters just because a tedious culling as I walked around and mashed on enemies that didn't fight back. It took far too long to kill them all and I wasn't attacked nearly enough while fighting them.

Millwood knights get the award for the best enemies of the DLC. Every encounter where I accidentally pulled two of them at once was a highlight because they're both hard as fuck while also being incredibly fair.

The DLC overall reeked of not having enough time, and of somethings being blatantly de-prioritized in order to focus on others. It harmed the overall package being so lopsided, but the good content was very good.

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how basic is my fashion guys?

>>158380671
>doesn't a havel build involves more than just havel's ring?

How much poise you think it takes to poise through "heavy attacks"

It takes wearing havels level of poise.

You are literally asking for a spellcaster build that wears havels.

>havel mage

>suddenly realizing that I actually invested in the opinion of a dark sword wielding shitter that played the DLC early and posted here to kept myself hyped for this
I just wanted the DLC to be good god fucking dammit

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NG+ at sl 80 and I 1shot everything

>>158381560
Look around more carefully, you can skip the wolves and kite the followers out easily, same with the big boys

>trying to play bloodborne again
>cinematic 26FPS, i-frames tied to framerate, massive input delay along with unprecise dashes locked on 8 directions despite being now the only way to avoid attacks makes it nearly unplayable

>fire up dark souls 2
>smooth 60FPS even on console, virtually no input lag, omnidirectional rolling

>people praise the former while slandering the latter
And the worst of all is how many of Bloodborne's shitty design decisions were carried on to DaS3

>>158380486
Thera no way that is a real. Also is that shit I see?

>>158381541
Spin Bash is kinda shit after the poise rework. It has less HA than a normal GH swing and negligible poisedamage. Yeah, it adds about 200 damage to an R1 combo but that's about it. I would put quakestone above it both because the general damage is considerably higher, and because Quakestone's WA is actually useful and hits like a truck.

>>158379583
The same reason they're always pigeon-toed. The japs are pedophiles

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Hold on, I don't remember this.
Did I miss something?

>>158381560
Other than the 5 or so followers you can trigger in the first area (who can be baited one or two at a time), and those wolves, enemy spam isn't something that really happened in the dlc.

anyone know the arena SL brackets if there are any?

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Does Villheim appear and try kill you if I Don't try to kill him and his bitch?

>>158381737
Looks like someone put song lyrics into the files as a joke.

>>158381737
dafuq? this reads nice

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>DUDE FIRE PHASE LMAO
>DUDE THIS TIME THREE PHASES, AND THE FINAL PHASE HAS BLACKFIRE AND FROSTBITE BOTH AND ALSO THE BOSS TURNS INVISIBLE AND DOESNT LEAVE FOOTPRINTS LIKE PRISCELLA DOES LMAO

Getting really tired of this fucking dumbass shit

>>158381560
Welcome to tanimura game design

>>158381796
He appears at the end of the Settlement no matter what you do, unless you kill him at the chapel first.

>>158381361
Everything except the followers set has a static location

Finish downloading the dlc on my ps4 but I can't seem to install it what to do?
cannot find application is the message I always get

>>158381096
>besides it being short
It's not really short. I would say it's slightly longer than any of DS2 ones separately which already were longer than AotA. ToH is the only exception but it's not something you should compare other games with as it's two dlc rolled into one.

Why does the follower's shield even exist? The stats are actual dogshit. It even claims in its description that it's anti-dark, but its dark defense is worse than the crest shield while also being worse in every other way

>>158381796
Villheim trys to kill you even if you don't cross the bridge and talk to them. I didn't know who this fag was but he just started attacking me.
>>158381840
You can't kill him in the chapel. He disappears when you attack him.

Elfriede gas no poise and can be cheese in phase 1 by just blocking the first hit of her combo and immediately swinging, if you have a fast weapon she'll be staggered before her attack ever lands and even if you're late you will trade, even on NG+2 you can out chug her with trades

You can force phase 2 without her going invisible once with this strategy

Phase 2 and 3 she's vulnerable to backstabs and wakeup stagger so it's more of a joke


I wish From had learned from Abyss watchers that man-sized bosses with no poise that you can critically attack end up being super vulnerable to cheese

I think The Champ is still my favorite boss fight in 3, Nameless king just gets to be a fucking slog past NG and is even easier to cheese with avelyn shenanagins Soul of cinder is fun but predictable and lets you heal too easily, only danger is the 5 hit wombo combo


Gravetender is such a fucking dumb fight, the wolf is cool but the fact his charge attack sometimes ignores guard due to hitbox shenanagins is kinda dumb, so the best strategy is just to hump his leg and display dominance

>>158381840
you can't kill him at the chapel, he'll disappear in a cloud of ash and call you a fucking idiot (probably for buying the DLC) and will reappear when you sit at a bonfire

haven't played das3 in ages

are greatswords still worthless?

>>158381974
ye

Is the scythe girl parryable? Worth doing it?

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>host and his buddies run into the chapel to talk with Friede
>destroy the bridge behind them
>now they need to endure one of the toughest places in the entire DLC to just get out
this DLC is fucking GOTY if you love invading

>>158381903
It's definitely shorter than the DaS2 DLCs. Okay, maybe it's as long as Shulva, but Shulva excused its length by way of its incredibly intricate and multidimensional and non-linear level design. There's nothing really exceptional about AoA's level design outside of the Corvian Settlement, which is a short and small section of a short and small DLC. All of the quality of AoA's level comes from the great enemy design

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>>158381932
I went to the settlement first and ignored the chapel and same thing, the guy attacked me and I just killed him in 4 hits with hollowslayer while my invader just watched.

>>158381974
they're blenders now

>>158381903
It feels short because there's only two bosses.

Other dlc usually had 3 or maybe 4.

>>158382038
in phase 1 it is, phase 3 as well it's not worth it

EVERY FUCKING TIME

A LAGGY FUCKING INVADER BACKSTABBING ME IN ANOR FUCKING LONDO AS A WHITE PHANTOM

WHOOPS, ONE FUCKING SHOTTED, BECAUSE I DIDN'T FUCKING PLAY A VITGOUGE FUCKMASK CHARACTER

EVERY
FUCKING
TIME

FUCK DAS1
FUCK THIS PIECE OF SHIT GAME

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Where were YOU when Fromsoft made Phyrexians canon?

What did you think of the dlc anons? The one big level was the best part, overall though this was the weakest their dlc has been, Valorheart is a piece of crap

There's a scene in the first traler where Ariandel is flailing himself, but I didn't actually see him doing it in-game. What's up with that ?

>>158382063
>It's definitely shorter than the DaS2 DLCs
Nah. It has more environmental variety alone than any separate DS2 dlcs and i don't remember full exploration of any DS2 ones taking me as much time as here.

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>take sl50 pyro to sl80 and invade the dlc
OR
>take sl60 dex build to sl80 and invade the dlc

Anyone tried Frozen Wepon spellbuff? Is it any good? Does scale or is just a meme?

>>158382070
One of those tree ladies followed me into the library, when i walked out of the door for some breathing room, it grabbed Vilheim and ice breath'd all over him.

>>158382168
CUT CONTENT

>>158381974
Hyper armor is more heavily tied to poise now, which is either a buff or nerf depending on how you look at it. Greatswords used to have a lot of trouble with ultra weapons, but now they shit on any that aren't running around in Havel's.

How sweetly rotting are your beds?

>>158382046
I had my favourite invasion of all time there last night
>invade with slumbering dragoncrest and obscuring ring
>spawn by the ladder just under the bridge
>host is milling about just outside of the bonfire cave
>sneak up the ladder and follow closely behind him
>he steps onto the bridge
>immediately ambush him and combo for half of his health
>this also trips the bridge
>he rolls deeper onto the bridge, I take a step back safely onto land and just wait
>I'm certain he's going to chug on the bridge and fall with it.
>he turns to me, removes his untrue dark ring to reveal that he is in fact not a host, but a fellow red here to help me with a 4-man gank
>then he chugs
>then the bridge falls
I stopped and laughed for a good 5 minutes before the squad caught up and delivered unto me sweet karma

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>>158382207
Let me guess, he just stood there and took it

>>158382189
100% meme, literally no reason to use over carthus rouge

>>158382279
it was the grabbing attack, he had no choice.

I think it went for me, but i moved out of the way and he was following me.

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>followers javelin in 3v3s
AAAAAAAAAAA
WHY IS EVERYTHING FUN AGAIN

>>158381614
>Reddit levels of shit

>>158382217
What about the farron meme sword? that weapon couldn't do damage for shit.

You can hear him doing it before rotating the statue but can't see it since the path is blocked. Maybe by noclipping into his room will reveal if they actually included the flailing animation.

>>158381750
>apart from the enemy spam, there's no enemy spam
That church with the two Bloodborne-fast crows was a treat.

>>158382308
Are any of the new magicks even good?

Anyone wana do some arenas?

>Start second run of the DLC
>Summon a single random at a time for comfy brovendtures
>Randoms run ahead trying to spoil all secrets
>Randoms cut bridge when i was planning on going settlement
Fuck this, back to solo then

>>158382189
Doesn't scale
Adds 35 frost buildup, same as the irithyll sword's base
Can't buff any existing frost weapon with it.


It's worthless. In pvp it's worthless, in pve it's worthless. There was no thought or effort put into this spell, they just recycled the particle effect from Friede's scythe as a weapon buff to fill their spell quota.

>>158382382
It had its running attack buffed in the most recent patch but I couldn't tell you what actually changed about it.

>>158382375
STOP HAVING FUN THIS WEBSITE IS SUPPOSED TO BE FULL OF CYNICAL ASSHOLES

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>Visceral on the wolf boss
>Animation makes me clip through the floor and I fall to the abyss

F R O M S O F T W A R E
>inb4 I deserve it for the weapon
I know, it counted as a kill anyway though

>>158382423
Yeah, fuck that church. I grabbed the item and fucked off out of there.

>>158382390
Meant to quote>>158382168

>>158381728
It's not tho. People just don't use it right. Like year the r1l2r2 combo is nice but the real advantage it give you is having a s uprising lyrics fast attack to inflict bleed with. Just try running up a throwing out an l2, if you get a clean hit follow up with the rest of the combo. Also people never seem to epect you to throw the WA out twice in a row so a lot of time you can easily bate people with a miss. On top of all that you inflict bleed with 3 to 5 hits when you use carthus rouge. Spiked mace is WAY more versitile than any other GH where all you can do is throw slow easily pariable/dodgeable attacks and hope for the best.

>>158382138
and? what did you lose?

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>>158381737
It seems one of the tree hollows was meant to be an NPC, so perhaps that was her dialogue?

>>158381560
You know what else is carried over from DaS2? Enemies 180 tracking you. But can't bring that up: the double standard won't allow it.

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Why couldn't they have just made this a resin so I don't need 15 int, an attunement slot and a catalyst just for aesthetics

>>158381560
How about looking around and/or using bombs and other consumeables to defeat these scenarios?

>>158382423
That was more like an environmental trap but enemies as the damage dealer. They reward you by looking inside the windows and scouting out the area. Also They had introduced both the corvian knights separately so I wouldn't call it that unfair.

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>fighting 2 pyros at once in 3v3s
oh no

>>158382443
Thanks man, that is just sad. Could have spreaded PVP buffs a bit....

>>158382640
Time to invest in twisted wall of light, anon.

>>158381680
At least it wasn't as blurry as bloodborne.

>>158381614

>leftstoc

lmao

>>158382574
RESPECT FOR MY FUCKING HOST
I AM A DISAPPOINTMENT

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>corona takes 18fth despite being the worst spell in the game by far
Christ, what were they thinking?
The stagger is fucking nothing, as well. You can't even combo off the backhit because it doesn't even stun as long as a dagger hit.

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>You get cryptic icons for fighting in the arena
>No win/loss, longest streak and other actually nice to have stats
Typical from software design

>>158382661
All good pyromancies ignore it

>still invading when you got an arena now

explain, do you people just wanna complain about ganks?

>>158382487
There's also an item on the rafters. Couldn't figure out how to get to it, though (probably missed a ladder or something).

>>158382742
>corona looks kind of cool
>It's shit

Aww...

>>158382793
>implying I own the DLC

I just finished a blind dlc playthrough and missed the pyro invasion. Am I fucked because I killed both bosses already?

Why the fuck does Vilhelm know Yuria

>>158382143
>Valorheart is a piece of crap

You mean the straight sword that autoblocks WHILE it attacks? Yeah, really shit.

>>158382793
>Implying I invade above SL 70

White phantoms have no hp

>>158381831
>doesn't leave footprints
There are really obvious snow puff graphics where she moves around, and she makes loud audio cues before attacking, and actually turns visible again mid-attack. In the first and second phases, you'll hear her take a really deep breath, then a second later, fade-in in the middle of her unblockable scythe attack. She will delay it and keep moving if you roll right away immediately though. In the third phase she only ever uses two frost waves while invisible.

>>158382143
If it were half the price it'd be the best DLC ever made. There's not nearly as much content compared to other DLCs, but it's really fun to play through and has lots of cool shit to play with later.

>>158382810
Yeah you gotta go through a certain window on the roof, one of them has the beam under it.

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Gargoyle Flame Spear weapon art blitz through twin edgylord scythes.

>>158382773
>no rewards based on your covenant

>>158382773
I'm sure win/loss can be made visible through CE, considering the game has to keep track of that for your medals.

>>158382869
No, I killed him after killing the bosses

>>158382897
>In the third phase she only ever uses two frost waves while invisible.

She will also do that explosion with a Black Serpent style follow-up, though that turns her visible once she does it.

>>158382793
I invade and don't care about ganks, despite the win rate.
Organised PvP is cancer and I got the DLC only for PvE, an invasion areas and the weapons

>>158381680
Not surprising DS2 is 60fps considering it was made for last-gen consoles.

>>158382869
maybe

the spell is shithouse anyway

>>158382878
Because he is from Londor.

>>158382793
Can anyone tell me where the follower sabre is? I think I've found every other DLC item.

Is crow quills a drop or is it found somewhere?

>>158382878
He's a knight of Londor and personal retainer to Yuria's sister.

>>158382168
Hidden content
>>158382878
She's elfriedes sister

>>158382619
>an environmental trap
It's a blender at lower levels. I drop attacked.the claw fucker and got minced on a corner.while trying to finish the job.
Got it third try, but it's still retarded that From are in a Bloodborne mindset in a Dark Souls game.

>>158382997
Every weapon and shield is found somewhere

>>158382885
which will often cause you to guard break yourself, effectively.

Still, I got a build in mind that might do well with it

>>158382997
Found in settlement, just explore rooftops till you find a jump towards the shitpit

>>158378638
She is from Granblue Fantasy guys, google it. I entered here thinking this was the granblue general lol

>>158382479
did you unlock the secret "primordial hydra" boss?

>>158382994
when dropping down on the roots to get to mega dog

>>158383027
Huh, weird. But Not bad because it means you can just run it low level and get everything.

>>158381680
Bloodborne began development before DaS2, so it was done on the DaS1 engine rather than DaS2's new engine. When the time came to make DaS3, they decided to use the same engine as Bloodborne. It seems like a lot of the design "decisions" were really just a result of what engine they chose to use.

>>158383020
Why dd you think fighting them there is a good idea?

You could just aggro one of them outside. Don't fall for their trap.

can you summon for boss fights?

I can't get the axe's warcry to true combo off anything. What's the secret, or is this a meme.

Where is the 1h axe in the DLC hidden? Can't seem to find it and I thought I was combing every area fairly well

where do you go after champion in dlc?

>>158382878
Do you even read descriptions ?

>>158383129
no

>>158383129
>>158383167
>>158383170
>>158383174
Have you tried playing the game?

>>158383194
thanks

>>158383120
That's how I did it in the end. The real problem was finding the door while dancing through a shitstorm of bleed and pokes.

>>158383170
you missed the huge millwood knights area
between first bonfire and the bidge

>>158383208
As I said I thought that I combed each area fairly well and now I'm thinking I must have missed a path or something but backtracking doesn't seem to get me anywhere so far

>>158383193
I've only had the dialogue as reference so far though.

>>158382985
>>158383010
>>158383013
Lord of hollows? More like Puppet of Londor.

>>158383250
>The real problem was finding the door while dancing through a shitstorm of bleed and pokes.

That's why you look carefully first I guess. It's more about your mindset and not theirs.

>>158381938
I hope that by Champ you men Gundyr not that shitty DLC Champ.

>>158383208
Alright I have and I'll say with some degree of certainty then: Unless anyone can prove otherwise, the millwood axe's warcry weapon art cannot true combo into any attacks, regardless of remaining FP, one-handed or two-handed, etc etc.

t. testing in invasions and arena

>I missed the entire millwood knight area

>>158383278
Thanks a lot, must have gotten super lost in the snow forest area

>>158382143
>Phyrexians canon
Wat

>>158383208
I tried talking to the bitch in the chapel, explored every area and found every item, but I just don't know where to progress from here...

Seems like every area either loops and has a dead end, only managed to find one boss too.

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>invade first area
>cross bridge and cut it down
>watch as host sits desperately on the other side

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>>158382773
>fucking icons
>not even actual auras like in DaS2
>just badges

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one order of 'just fuck my shit up' please.

>>158383503
Darkmoons already have the rank 2 blue aura and Fromsoft doesn't give a shit about reds.

>>158383363
>look carefully
Don't give me that: you have a restricted view from the roof. Look, I don't want to make this a thing, just accept that I. Wasn't impressed with the sanic-fast bleed gank.

>>158383093
Oh boy. That's going to be fun.

>>158383393
I did too on my first time through.
Saw the big wolf area, decided to pick a wall and hug it to find my way around, and immediately found the bug path.

Ended up needing to clear the wolf gank like 4 times to explore the whole zone.

>Run up the pillar in the arena
>Equip cats ring
>Jump down
>Opponent jumps down with me to his death
I can't believe people will fall for this.

>>158383561
>not hitting alt-F4 mid-fall to save yourself.

>>158383439
Tried punching Bridges yet?
That always helps me

>>158383659
Is the pillar a death drop or does it just make them take a bit of damage like the tower in the DaS2 arena?

>>158383561
There's a reason why I use a great bow now. Great for fucking with players and dealing with stupid shit like this.

>>158383561
>Closest bonfire

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>that damage on the new miracle
So when do we get a miracle that reveals all the hidden FUCK YOU messages throughout the game?

>>158383654
how many paths are there? I walked over the snow hill and found the bonfire, after getting the harpoon. I know about the path behind the big dog now, are there more?

>>158383615
Pretty sure you could see it from the rafters inside but whatever.

>>158383689
I did that.
I was actually missing the lever in the pit with the bugs, I must be fucking blind.

My bad.

>>158383698
It's quite high but won't kill people instantly. Actually it's a pretty good place to camp. Most people won't bring along the cat ring so if they slip up they take damage while you don't. Great for getting some space to buff or heal if needed as well.

>>158383765
Hard-left in the dog area leads directly to the bridge bonfire, skipping the dog encounter and the entire millwood tower area.

>>158381569
...anyone?

>>158383393
missed the millwood knight area
finished crow village in like 30 seconds and didn't want to go back because of all the malformed crows
>missed the bonfire in the tundra

LETS GET AN ARENA FIGHT CLUB GOIN????

>>158383731
it's ok they buffed emit force

>>158383561
>no ring of sacrifice

when the fuck is the table being updated I am being raped in NG+7 DLC

>>158383832
there's still like 10 dogs and 50 fire trees though

>>158383920
Yeah the trees are unironically worse than the dogs.

>>158383865
It's not a fight club if it's in the arena

>>158383561
>Yeah I thought I was safe with silver ring on just in case and laughed when the arrows missed me.

>Then the arrow detonated and knocked me off and even with the silver cat ring I still died from the drop.

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But why was the big breakfast bowl bird Scottish?

>>158383832
Alright, guess i'm going to the millwood tower.

by the way, do the dogs stop spawning?

>>158381569
>>158383834
On a faith build buff it with lightning blade to get a stronger lightning spear

>>158383950
And why does everything (him included) in the dlc and DS3 in general make Bloodborne shrieks all the time? Plus every other humanoid hollow character looks like a chalice dungeon Madman

>>158381663
>1shot corvian knights
ok

Did the update the DLC for PC or something?

I decided to try it for a laugh at SL125 with a swordspear and the damage and poise being dealt to me is pretty insane, the dogs ganking you is pretty bullshit. Everything takes a good 3 hits or so to kill as well.

I was told it was easy af, maybe everyone is just using dark sword idk.

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>>158378638
where is everyone... dead game?

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I WANT DOGS
NO! WOLVES. AND I WANT THEM IN PACKS
AND I WANT PLATFORMING SECONDS WITH ROOTS.
AND GREATBOW ARCHERS.
AND I WANT BOTH OF THOSE AT THE SAME TIME.
AND THE ARROWS SHOULD EXPLODE