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Post progress Anons

>>158332792
Editing the podcast right now. We talk a lot about Ib, since most of the crew has played it.

>>158332792
Mostly I've been struggling with how much freedom to give the player. I'm going for a more western style RPG, which tends to lean heavy toward lots of customization and freedom, but at the far end of that I'm not sure I could hold a narrative together or properly guide or motivate the player.

Here's a game a friend of mine finished, It's a Jojo bizzare adventure parody where you play as youtubers such as Markiplier, Erin ( From game grumps) , Danny Sexbang and more! You'll encounter enemies that are based off enemies that Markplier plays on his playthrough. Later on in the game you can even Use " Stands" aswell. Anyways, Here's a link to the Game trailer, The game link is right in the page description, I hope you guys can give the game a chance and let me know what you think! Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3iXOUVu22k&feature=youtu.be

>>158332792
Was making a cave using RTP tiles, couldn't find stairs that face away from you, so ended up looking at just switching to Ancient Dungeon but there's only two sets out so idk I guess I'm just gonna die or something

>>158333978
>Here's a game a friend of mine finished, It's a Jojo bizzare adventure parody...
Sweet, love me some jojo.
>where you play as youtubers such as Markiplier, Erin ( From game grumps) , Danny Sexbang and more!
aaaaaand dropped.

>>158333978
>where you play as youtubers such as Markiplier, Erin ( From game grumps) , Danny Sexbang and more!
just wondering if your friend happens to be a 15 year old girl who's favorite games are FNAF and Undertale

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>>158333978
I don't watch really Let's Players so I don't know who these people are aside from Markiplier. I only know him because he played stuff like Ib and Off a few years back. This seems like a game which you can only enjoy if you know all about these Youtubers, so I won't play it.

Aside from that I have to say that this trailer is kinda boring. The first half is running around with nothing happening.
I still have to give your friend credit for finishing a game!

Nobody is ever going to play your game

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>>158334363
awe, that sucks, I know your probably not a fan of the youtubers, but I just wanted to get the word out there. I know It's not much but, there is one character you can have in your party that's not a youtuber. I hope it's something. Also, I know it's not much but, since you like jojo, Here is one of the enemies you could fight in the game, " JoJo Balloon boy" But i call him, Enragement child, You could take your frustration out on this Enemy if you want, (sorry if this drawing isn't the best)

>>158336635
Thanks alot for your honesty anon, your feedback is greatly Appreciated, glad you gave the trailer a watch!

>>158336692
That's fine, my goal is to have fun making the game that I want since it's never going to be finished anyway

>>158332037

Why don't you guys just use Game Maker?

You an 100x the freedom with just a bit of coding.

You can even literally just rip the sprite from RPG Maker.

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Posting the full DEMO here! Thanks for everyone who helped point out some typos!

http://www.mediafire.com/file/uz5am43hctt4j1x/SteelZeroes+Demo+1%2C0.7z

>>158337273
>just a bit of coding
I've worked with gamemaker a bit, recreating everything RPGM does, especially with scripts/plugins, would not be a small feat. You gain very little from that freedom if your goal is to make a jRPG style game.

>>158337580
Lewd Patch when?

>>158333978
I'm in the same boat as >>158336635

I never really watched any Let's Players outside of Vinesauce, and not even them so much these days. As much as I like JoJo, I don't think I'd get much out of the game.

Congratulations to your friend for finishing it, though. I've never completed something even half that length.

>>158336925
This art isn't bad at all by my standards, though.

Has anyone gotten the quasi Arpg plugin to work? I can't even get the demo running. Or does anyone know if another MV arpg plugin?

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Oh if you missed it last thread, I've finished the first prologue of my game "I Did a Bad a Thing"

https://tothdeck.itch.io/i-did-a-bad-thing

>>158337601

But you don't need to recreate everything RPGm does.

You don't need to add scripts/plugins, you can hard code it into your game after you get the basic engine going, which is no feat.

>RPGm
>the autism of wasting your life for something that no one will ever play or care at all

it's like learning how to play an instrument only you can hear while wishing that others will like it and waiting for their appraisal

>>158337580
Neat, I'll definitely give this a try tonight.
Are you still on the hunt for bugs and typos?

>>158339087
It's still an instrument, anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2WH8mHJnhM

>It's another agdg episode
Oh boy

Well to distract ourselves from the agdg nonsense, what do people think of Ancient Dungeons?
It looks amazing to me but the fact that currently there are no snow or desert motifs blows. I realize the artist is going to work on them but it may take a while.

>>158337273
>Game Maker
>for RPGs
It's like you want people to never finish anything. Game Maker is nodev central. At least here guys like >>158337580 actually get shit done.

>>158339890
Was this the one with the nice looking statues and such? If so I liked it but I think it was too expensive.

>>158339890
Not much better than the default stuff imo. You are still stuck with the same shit chibi characters and the same stupid battlers. You are just paying to make anything not from that pack look out of place.

Better to scribble some pixel stuff and have something that looks different from everyone else.

>>158332792
No progress to post.
Haven't had much time to work on my game for personal reasons, apart from advancing on potential party members.
There's a good 10 of them now, which will likely be the final number, and all of them have a preferred weapon and motivation now, but that's about it.

Baby steps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3JPa2mvSQ4

>>158337273
Baaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttt

I've been playing around with the idea of narration in my game. Like a story is being told to the player as they play it. It might turn off people who don't really like to read, but I think it could add something fun to the game. I really liked the DM voice over in D&D online as you crept through the dungeons, or the narrator in darkest dungeons.

>>158334012
>Ancient Dungeon
I hope you're using VXA and are going to pay for the second Ancient Dungeon tile set. Otherwise, don't bother. I'm using Ancient Dungeons on MV (Upscaled) and it's a pain. Still looking for the Jungle tile set.

>>158341321
The narrator in Darkest Dungeon was really great and added to the experience. The one in Bastion was also great.
If you go that route then get someone with a good voice.

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>>158343227
Well, it would be written, not vocal. Which is why I worry that more modern audiences wouldn't like all those dirty words on the screen so much. I am going for a very early PC RPG aesthetic, pic related, so having voice overs wouldn't really fit.

>>158344618
Ah, I see.
In that case I think it can work but make sure that it doesn't distract the player and more importantly choose a font that is easy to read.
Such old games were kinda hard to read sometimes.

>>158332792
I got one skill working!
Too bad the ATB is still incompatible and causes the game to freeze.

>>158332792
I'm almost done with my demo. Just need to add some more monsters and polish it up.
Though it's the Undertale recreation so no one cares.

>>158346587
Don't say that Anon.
I will tell you that it is a nice Undertale clone.

>>158346263
I will forgo the fancy pixel fonts in favor of legibility. Tho I do love bitmgothic, I will be practical and go with something like fixedsys regular.

>>158346263
Dwarf Fortress is incredibly hard to read as well, and people are still willing - to this day - to dig into it.

Not that I'm disputing what you say, but I guess one should never underestimate what players are willing to dedicate to a game if everything else clicks
It can be an enormous threshold though.

I have no idea where to go with my plot and I think I just want to rip it out and start from scratch, because it's built on a pretty weak premise.

>>158349886
This happens quite often I think and sometimes it really is better to start anew.

>>158349886
It may be tough, but don't grow too attached to your ideas.
Allow yourself to admit that the thing you came up with didn't work out. It doesn't make you suck or a no-good, it just means you came up with something that didn't work.

If you feel you want to rip it out and start from scratch, do it.
Salvage anything you think you can use, but even if you don't or can't: that's fine. Your next idea is better.

This also has the bonus effect of allowing you to be more creative. If you only have that one idea that has to work out, you often don't dare touching it.

Keep it up, Anon!

>>158337273
>You can even literally just rip the sprite from RPG Maker.
Not if you're going commercial. Most RPG Maker resources are for RPG Makers only.

>>158338164
This is the one that's currently in active development:
http://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?/topic/66713-alpha-abs-11-beta/

It's best to ignore Quasi. He's made it clear(in his Patreon at least) that he's moving away from RPG Maker. Consider all of his plugins to be dead.

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>>158332792
Got a couple new tracks done did in the spirit of the month, should help to fill out some atmospheres a little.

Closer to traditional horror, like resident evil sorta.

https://soundcloud.com/mondo-nugget/clown-flavored-bologna

Dark edgy synthwave, probably some kind of Bio-Dungeon.

https://soundcloud.com/mondo-nugget/biohazard-busters

Mostly just doing more gruntwork, items, npcs, maps and such for the game side of the spectrum.

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>>158332792
I am THIS close to finishing the Demo for Tomb of Friends 2. Expect to see it soon!

>>158356381
neat

How do I make a game using RPG Maker that will sell very well on Steam? How much did Lisa sell?

>>158337903
Thanks! Ill be sure to let my friend know, your feedback much appreciated!

>>158356481
>How do I make a game using RPG Maker that will sell very well on Steam?
By making it as unlike an RPG Maker game as possible. By looking too similar, you lump yourself in with all those wannabes

>How much did Lisa sell?
Well enough

>>158356481
By actually working on your game without being lazy and copying from other games.

Those seem to be the largest pitfalls here.

noprogress, RTP, efforts to clone something in some way. All those things will hold you back.
Let go and embrace your own vision.

>>158356193
First one is very spooky and gives me chills. The piano is soothing but as soon as it's gone it's even more spooky.

Second one is really cool, I love the transition at ~2 minutes in.
I must say you really improved and I enjoy listening to your stuff.

Will there ever be an RPG Maker game as innovative as Yume Nikki?

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>>158356923
Thanks man! I can only keep getting better, and I plan to.

>>158357234
Yes! As soon as you make it

>>158332792
Wrote lore in notepad.
Played with character generator.

I feel so lame.

Pick a character from your party.
Got it?
Now give us a description of their legendary weapon and why your character is worthy of using it

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Good night bump

>>158363506
No legendary weapons really. Just weapon modification. Makes sense really when the weapons they use are either family heirlooms, the only thing they have any training with, or because the character doesn't want to just trade it in.

Whoa bump.

>>158337580
>>158339315
I'm back! It's a cute game so far. I'm really hoping for some outlandish enemy designs further down in the story. It would be a cool contrast to see small threats from the beginning to see huge ones towards the end.
The combat system isn't the bad, and I like the humor.
My only real complaint is probably how you engage a random battle. I didn't notice that the radar gives you a prompt to start a fight. I was wandering around waiting for a battle to start until the 4th(?) puzzle. That was when I figured out that you were supposed to press a key to engage an enemy.
Otherwise, I find some typos and a bug here.
1. asure should be assure
2. double spacing
3. double spacing
4. graphic bug?

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>>158369807
It would help if I posted my image

How to write a good main story?
I can imagine a good sidequest because I can follow witcher 3 example: it must have a mini story you can relate yourself irl.

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Let's talk damage formulas.

After long exposure to JRPGs and the like, I think we all default a little too quickly to the traditional damage formulas - You have a huge chance of hitting (90%+), a small chance of crit'ing (1%-20%), armor mitigates damage, and people have lots of numeric life that allows multiple hits. This formula is so common I don't think any of us really look at it and consider how silly it is from a "realistic" perspective. Not that that's bad. It's video gamey, and video gamey is good. It's just strange, and no one seems to really challenge it. Since I'm making my combat from scratch for an sRPG, I get a lot more creative freedom than the RTP combat.

So my goal this time was simple: incorporate realistic elements while maintain video gamey aspects and keeping it relatively simple. I may have failed the last, but it was a design goal.

I started with dice rolls. My main influence here was 40k: Rogue Trader 1E (as mentioned last thread). Their system is remarkably simple: 3 is 50% of a D6, so the average humans gets 3 across the board on stats. Two humans fighting each other have a 50% chance to hit (Weapon Skill 3 vs WS 3), 50% chance to wound (Strength 3 vs Toughness 3), and then a Saving Throw. Unlike Morrowind, which resulted in a miss-fest, this low chance (only 25% before Saves) is supplemented with one Unsaved Wound killing the model. Clean, efficient - if you get disembowled and your armor doesn't deflect it, you're not getting back up.

But I'm making a video game, not tabletop, so I want more influential stats and control. D6 became 60, and the average 3 became 30 (which is much easier to increase with level-ups). Instead of 1 Wound instant death, I defaulted to 100 life fixed so its easier to see coming. I also included direction of attack - it's easier to hit someone from the side or the back than the front, where he's ready, and some more.

Cont.

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>>158373830

Too many dice rolls can lead to frustration from the RNG Gods, so I wanted more stability as well.

So, my system.

I knew from the start I wanted to include dodging, glancing armor saves (blade slides off armor), a flat damage reduction on hits (armor still works on a good, solid hit), faith saves (gods play a heavy role in my game, and intervention is common in combat), and a standard luck save - as well as a way of circumventing all of the above. Maces ignore glancing saves, chopping weapons can go over shields, a holy weapon will ignore faith saves, etc.. Lastly, I wanted a distinction between how much your armor covers and how protected you are.

But simplicity was a goal. Fun, with lots of choices that do impactful things (weapons do more than +damage), but you shouldn't need a spreadsheet to PLAY (only design).

I played around with this a lot. You can see my efforts in the previous picture. Here's what I've finally settled with:

>Attributes: Combat Skill, Defence, Faith, Luck
>Stats: Weapon Skill (one for each weapon type), Damage, Dodge, Damage Reduction, Armor Cover %, Armor Save, Encumbrance

>Formula (in order):

>To Hit: (30+(pWS x BONUS*)-(eDDG - eENC))/60
*BONUS: x1.5 if attacking from the side, x2 if behind
>Parry/At Bay: (eWS/2)/60
>Block: BLK%
>Armor Save: eARM% x (eARSV/6)
>Faith Save: eFTH/60
>Faith Counter Save: pFTH/60**
**If both pass, a Faith War begins. Deus Vult.
>Luck Save: (eLUK - pLUK)/60
>Damage: pDAM - eDEF

I know it looks like a lot, but for two peasants fighting with fists, it's a 50% chance from the front, 75% from side, 100% from behind to deal damage. For a man in full iron armor and a shield, the peasant can't do squat. That's another thing - armor acquisition is semi-realistic. It's extremely rare and expensive as fuck to acquire, especially a full suit. Most everyone will have hybrid gear and non-generic stats.

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>>158373927
Final thoughts:

I wanted something that seemed fun at every level of playstyle. I have a friend whose real fond of "Faith is my Shield" characters in no armor, trusting divine protection. I personally liked Bleach's Iron Skin/"Zero fucking damage!" high def thing, so that's possible. Weapon type is more important than weird tier systems like copper sword, iron sword, mithril sword, mushu-wushu god sword, etc.. Damage is pretty inherent already: a punch is 5 (20 hits to kill someone without armor), a sword is 20 damage (though I may bump it to 60, depending on how defence pans out), etc.. Full armor makes you a walking tank even against swords. The "special" weapons or armor are going to do tricks rather than stats - because in my game, "There is no magic but prayer." And on that front, a god answering a prayer can have some magic-like effects that twist up this whole system proper good.

The last thing is unarmed combat. A punch is near useless against someone with armor, obviously, but getting your Unarmed Weapon Skil up will start teaching you grappling techniques. Full armor means little when you're flat on your back from a wild savage and someone shoves a knife through your visor. My "faith" friend loves unarmed characters, so I figure he'll appreciate the viability. He can go full Monk now.

Well, that's it for my dev talk. I know no one actually read this, and I'm sure I'll tweak a bunch I get to testing (the combat is already done), but it sure is theraputic putting it all down and sorting out my thoughts.

>tl;dr Bump.

>>158373927
Real final thoughts (and bump):

UI. The User Interface. The damage formula is long and cumbersome, but not for the player. If you successfully damage someone, you just click attack and it says
>Dealt X damage.
All the other stuff comes into play when something fails. It just spits back a message saying what failed:
>X dodged.
>X parried/blocked.
>X's armor deflected the blow.
etc.

Quick and clean. Personally, I hate having to click through messages, dice rolls, confirmations, clunky animations, etc. You can have complexity, but keep that out of the interface.

>>158375356
One issue you may run into is that players hate missed attacks. It feels arbitrary and like the game cheated you, because there was nothing you could have done to avoid that miss. It was out of your control. 50% or even 75% chance to hit will very quickly frustrate players and have them shutting your game off.
In a table top setting weather you hit of not is part of the excitement, but that is a social setting and having other players around to pick up the slack or commiserate with does a lot to mitigate the random nature of the games. You are making a single player experience where the mechanics are hidden, so players don't give the same miss function that mental leeway.

Start with full party or meet members along the way?

>>158383902
Meet members along the way almost definitely.

This was already asked in the last topic, but got no replies:

Will there be a crack for MV version 1.3.3, or does it not need one?

>>158369807
Same here, there should be a small message teling you that you need to execute battles yourself.

>>158383902
Depends on story.

>>158383902
Meet. I hate having to take the time to control all these fags I don't give a shit about when I just started the game.

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>>158369807
1-3 Will fix it!
4 - I actually have zero freakin' clue how to fix that... if anything, I may have to replace the victory script since I can't for the life of me, find a way to take out that square.

>>158385503

Yeah, I've heard that complain before too, will add a small tutorial window telling you about it!
Also, I got to work on some new assets today! Drawing tilesets is by far the most fun part of making this!

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>>158390959

>>158383902
Depends on game length. If its short, full party. If long, meet along the way.

>>158378250
There's been a lot of D&D-licensed (or inspired) video games, though. I think as long as you establish missing well enough as a main mechanic, it can work even in single player.

Push it to the limit

Can you guys give me some tips on character design?
Like, say I have a NPC who is meant to be an Insect and a Farmer. How do I incorporate both concepts visually so the guy doesn't end up as "Beetle with a Straw Hat"?

>>158400258
Make him farm.
Make him tend to animals.
Make him stand near a farm and heaps of hay.

Animations and placements counts as visual elements just as much as the sprite itself does, I'd say.

When it comes to the sprite, farming tools may help.
Straw hat and overall is overused, quite true, but they aren't even necessary.

>>158400258
omg Beetle with a Straw Hat sounds so cute

Is there anywhere I can get a region tileset? I use an external program (Tiled) to make maps in and there are plugins that let you set up regions with it, but I can't find an actual image of a tileset to use with it.

The VX Ace crack in the OP is broken, can anyone provide a new link?

>>158370419

>How to write a good main story?

Here's my method how to do it and I think it works(note: I still haven't released my game and, obviously, haven't got any feedback about it's story quality, so take my advices with a grain of salt).

Basically - do something simple, even cliche. Like, destroying some ancient evil, saving a princess, that kind of stuff. It may seem like a bad idea at first, because of how much people seem to hate simple stories, but the truth is - at the end of the day they probably won't mind, if you do it right. Keep in mind, that if you decide to make your story from a simple archetype, you have more time to develop stuff like characters, plot-twists and backstory/lore. All of those things seem to matter more to players than some deep,expansive storyline, considering how much series like MGS, Dark Souls or even Undertale are popular. You can't really call stories of those games particularly deep, even more - they're actually quite simple - but they excel at some of those smaller things I described before.

Anyway - if you're going for a simple story, most of the work is already done, but you still must try to make your story somewhat different. Try to do some crazy and unexpected plot twists, maybe some mindfucks, go for some kind of atmosphere that may feel fresh in your kind of setting or just make a cast of memorable characters, confront them together and try to make a story out of them and their chemistry.

There was also a good advice I've read some time ago. Basically, you should base your story around basic human emotions and needs, like love, friendship,hate etc. so that everybody would understand and relate to it. Dingaling(LISA's creator) wrote a good article about it some time ago, but I can't find it now. If I remember correctly, in this post he said something that a good story is this one that even a caveman can understand.

Anyway, sorry for my chaotic writing. I hope it will help at least a bit!

Seeing as how it's entirely too easy to get banned on makerweb. are there any other rpg maker sites with classifieds? I wanna hire a coder and I'm not going to make it to 30 posts any time soon.

>>158378250
I'll keep that in mind, especially during testing.

Two notes in my defence though. The 50% is the chance from the average starting stat ((30+[30]-[30])/60 = .5 or 50%), and Weapon Skill increases by use. As a system, your chance to hit is based on how much better than your opponent you are, where equal skill is 50%. Notice if you're worse: (30+[30]-[45])/60 = 25%, or better: (30+[50]-[35])/60 = 75%, although that discrepancy is rather huge. Even if WS and the other stats start at 1: (30+[1]-[1])/60 = 50%. It's meant to encourage ganging up so you have someone hitting the sides/back and more consistently wounding - and again, wounds rack up extremely fast here. Only a few means death.

Also, people get more than 1 attack. For every 25 CBT (which maxes at 100), you get 1 extra attack. So by the time people start getting solid gear and (I imagine) frustrating saves, you also start getting multiple attempts to hit through it. Assuming you have a mace for that sweet, sweet "ignore glancing armor saves," you get x2 chance to hit even from the front, leading to more consistent hits all around.

As for "hidden," I'll definitely keep that mind in testing and in feedback when I post a demo. Right now, the plan is to show a quick little stat/chance screen before confirming "Attack" on someone (Fire Emblem comes to mind here), in case you didn't realize before this guy is a walking high priest with 40 Faith and your attacker isn't holy. It's just the physical rolls I want out of sight. However, in my current debug testing, I have all the rolls laid out clearly to make sure it's all operating smoothly. I don't know how it feels to be hidden yet, so I'll pay especial attention to it once I remove the screens.

>>158407356
Still need this. Also.

How easy is it to change how many party members there are in play at once? If I wanted to have, say, 8 characters at once, is that doable?

>>158410978
I am fairly sure there are Scripts for teams of up to 10. I've never tried one, though. And I can't imagine it looking pretty.

>>158400258
>"Beetle with a Straw Hat"
Just go with that. Sounds fun.

>>158412598
Thanks.

Can anyone reupload the crack? The only other one I can find comes with all the VX system files and I'm not sure that's the one I need.

Live

>>158417649
The only one I have is in the Pirate Bay.

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Fixed a few things!

>Fixed a few portraits, some were missing a few details, such as Luke not having those bolts attached to his hips.
>There was a rare glitch where you’d get stuck in the battle transition, hopefully it’s fixed now.
>Corrected a few minor typos.
>Nerfed some power and defense upgrade Parts for the sake of balancing.


http://www.mediafire.com/file/i9oaabb8i8r8u88/SteelZeroes+-+Demo+1%2C1.7z

>>158420832
I found a bug in the game, I can't seem to access the porn.

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>>158421128
Too bad, eh?

>>158421386
such a tease.
what would it take to access the pron?

>>158421582
Buy the deluxe edition :^)

>>158421582
Season pass.

>>158421892
>>158422120
what currency? coconuts? bananas? peanuts?

>>158421386
What's it like to be the biggest cocktease in /rpgmg/?

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>>158421892
>>158422120

don't forget the dlc

>>158422818

lewdollars

Worst rpgm game you've played?

>>158428136
>that bad and good feeling when you know it's not yours because yours isn't done and won't ever be done

>>158428136
Victim of Xen

It is hard to make progress when you are sick.

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>>158430469
Get well soon Anon!

I'm not sure if I should use the Gregorian calender or make my own.
It could possible confuse players.

>>158432090
It just depends on how prevalent it is in the game. For example, Elder Scrolls made their own. In Daggerfall, the month and day mattered a shit ton for quests, events, deities, and holidays, so players paid attention and either learned the calendar or bothered to reference it. In later TES games, the month/day has 0 relevance to the game, so it is remarkably out of place and just words-words that give a novel background flavor at best.

Ultimately, if it isn't going to matter, don't make a new one. If it is going to matter, think long and hard on if it is going to come across as cumbersome to navigate or not.

>>158432090
How often are you going to be referring to the months in your game? How important is that? How does it make the play experience better?

Saying "It's the first day in Langlish" doesn't communicate anything to the player. You are better off with "It's the first day into the harvest season" or "It's the 2nd week of the year's first moon" or even "On the 3rd day of the 3rd month". You can toss in the made up month's name in there but don't expect the player to remember it, and always include some form of the information that the Gregorian name would imply.

>>158432090
Many games use a 'fantasy' calendar, which is just the normal calendar with exotic names for the months

>>158432090
It depends on why you'll need a calendar and what your setting is like.

If you are the guy making the Harvest Moon game, better use the Gregorian calendar.

>>158432539
>>158432979
>>158433147
>>158433346

I guess it would be primarily for immersion but I'm working on a puzzle right now which would use the calender.
Also saying it's 2016 A.D. when the setting is not our Earth is kinda strange.
Maybe I'll make up some names for days and months and give the player a calender to have a reference.
Thank you guys.

Is there an easy way to make lower res versions of the tilesets and stuff? I can't make high res versions of the character sprites so I figure I'll do the opposite so the art is consistent.

>>158434814
parallax mapping

>go to /vp/ yesterday
>read thread asking what anon¡s ideal pokemon game would be like
>today I have a 4 page document detailing my ideal pokemon game
>no progress on my own game

>>158435209
Well
Better make a Pokemon game then.

>>158435209
Why don't you make your ideal pokemon game with not!pokemon?

>>158434814
How much do you want to resize and what exactly do you mean by "lower resolution"?
Photoshop does allow you to resize pixel perfect if you are doing things like 2x, but it wouldn't allow you to do things like 1.5x.
It wouldn't allow you to go the opposite direction and resize to 0.5x without cleating blurs either.

>>158435169
>>158435594
Well I feel like MV tilesets are TOO high res so I'd like to downsize them so I can also make NES/SNes sized character models. I don't mind looking for a lower res tileset to scale up and fit the 48x48.

>>158435920
Photoshop would only be able to upscale 16x16 and 24x24 to fit the 48x48 size using "Nearest Neighbor (Preserve Hard Edges)" setting.

>>158436339
Thanks for the input. Back to making tilesets for weeks.

My problem with parallax for this is that if I make them high res and scale it down, it will get the muddle problem unless I make it at the correct resolution to start with.

And by that point, I may as well just make the accursed tilesets because doing it for all the parallaxes needed is about the same if not more effort.

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Making progress feels really good.

I've seen lots of good stories that start out small in scale and grow into something epic. I mean, "random peasant goes out to collect herbs and ends up saving the world" is pretty much the default RPG plot. And I've seen plenty of good stories that start and stay small, too. Personal struggles can be as good as anything if they're written well.

But is it possible to write a good story that's the opposite, where the protagonists get tangled up in a battle for the fate of the world early on, but end up bailing out when they realize it wasn't what they thought? Or something like that. I've been thinking of making a game with a story like that for a while, but I'm not sure I could make it work without being ultimately disappointing.

>>158442660
Generally, the stakes are raised as the story goes on. That's the formula.

There are a couple ways around it, though.

>Party saves the world
>Main story is about their PTSD

>Character leaves party
>World's fate hangs in balance
>You must write a character intersting enough to distract the audience from the rest of the world

>King making big important decisions all day
>Really wants to spend time with his children

>>158442660
Of course its possible. It just depends on your writing skill.

I guess saving the world could just be a means to some kind of end?

Or having the protagonist figuring out that he wasn't really supposed to be the hero?

The scale of events doesn't really matter as much as their importance to the protagonist and the emotional payout they bring.

>>158442660
Reminds me of Maoyu. Fate's hero goes to slay the demon king, demon king (female) seduces hero with a socioeconomic lesson, hero agrees to abandon his quest, change their identities, and go live in a manor where they go about instituting agricultural reforms.

Eventually the scope of the story picks up again as they try to divert war, but it was a pretty big deescalation.

Another one is Rokka no Yuusha. That is the gathering of the 6 heroes to go slay the demon king, but 7 heroes show up. While they are dealing with the confusion a locked room mystery happens and it becomes a classic "who done it?/who's the fake" plot. They never even make it to the demon king's land.

Any good sources for mv tilesets?

Have you guys made any blogs/tumblr for your game?
I think that is the best way to get some attention aside from posting on rpg maker sites.

>>158447001
>Have you guys done thing.
No. We don't do things around here.

>Get so invested in my game that I start having dreams about it/the characters.
That's perfectly normal, isn't it?

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muckin' about with character design for a sci-fi/synth-y game but i'm not really an artist so i don't really know what i'm doin'

>>158450928
>i don't really know what i'm doin'
You're doing your best, and that's what counts.
That and posting lewds.

>>158451002
thanks anon

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Good night bump

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Fucking hell, it's been a long day.

First I put in all the combat logic, which took a few hours. Then, after, I put in the effects of the different weapon types - which needed to be doubled, once for the player combat logic, once for the enemy logic. That took about 6 hours.

It's all in though, everything except ranged weapons. I know people are surely tired of seeing my design notes on the left, but I'm including to show how it's been incorporated in the logic. The "holy" and "crush" effects were by far the simplest to include.

Ignore the gory debug stuff. It's ugly and cumbersome but I need to see what's going on behind scenes.

Prrrrrrrrrogress!

>Wake up with terribly sore throat
>Thread needs bumping
You're welcome!

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>>158450928
bump ft. colour ideas

guys i need a web that was full of sick monster sprites it was in japanese iirc, the art was similar to Katakura Hibiki it was posted some time ago but i didnt save it -__-

found it, if anyone need it here's the link http://cyanyurikago.web.fc2.com/material.html

>>158408049
Thank you anon.

I'm thinking of some politic gambit pileup scenario happening without player knowing until they read in-game newspaper. Every event in the game are carefully foreshadowed in the newspapers.

The MC are caught up in the personal fight or something. Maybe trying to save her little brother. I haven't found a good twist, though.

Late reply. 4chan sometimes prevent me from posting. Dunno why.

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I don't really understand what happens inside the container, in Game_Party, when I switch equipment, in VX Ace.
I'm trying to make it that so that each weapon and armor is instanced, via cloning. I give the item it's own unique ID and add durability to the item.
I test the durability by damaging the equipment that I'm currently wearing and everything works fine. I unequip and equip other items and everything works fine, but if I have two different items, like in pic related I have two "Short Sword's", and I equip the one with a larger ID, like in the pic short sword one with 50 durability has an ID of 0 and short sword two with 100 durability has an ID of 1, then all of the parameters from short sword with ID 1 will get copied over to the second one and rewritten.
But if I, for instance, would've equipped some other weapon, for instance, a regular Sword, then the short sword with the ID 0 would still have its original parameters, the unique ID and it's own durability.
It kinda baffles me as to why this exactly happens. Considering that not many things even have access to the container in Game_Party.

Bamp.

Hey senpai so I was thinking...Have y'all have issues throwing fantasy definitions and how to relay the message to players that this is that game's world equivalent?

One of the things that really got me stuck is the metric system. Who would've thunk?

>>158465689

Glad I could help!

Also, don't be discouraged if you won't find a good way for your story instantly. Just take your time and don't rush it - story is one of the easiest things to fuck up. For example, it took me a few months of shaping story for my game in my mind before I knew exactly what I wanted to do with it and the direction I wanted to take. So, as I said before, take your time - you'll come up with something good eventually. In the meantime, you may focus your attention on designing mechanics and side-quests(who knows, maybe you'll get some idea from them?).

Good luck with your project!

>>158469391
I would use the metric/imperial system for the same reason I would make the characters speak in english. Because once you go down that rabbit hole there is no end to it. You end up in LotR territory where you are spending most of the time translating your made up bullshit instead of telling a story.

Is there a way to make it so that when MP runs out, all spells will start casting from HP instead?

>>158470872
You might be able to fake it with an event, something like
"If actor X mana = 0 disable Skills(a) and enable Skills(b)"
"If actor X mana > 0 disable Skills(b) and enable Skills(a)"
kind of like a limit break system with mana as the trigger.

>>158469391
My games are mostly related to the real world in some way so I don't have that issue.

Fantasy authors usually give measures of humans in feet or hands, construction heights in either feet, yardsticks or men, short distances in feet or strides, medium distances in yards, horse-time or arrowflight, and long distances in travel time, leagues, furlongs or yards. Time could be measured in candles, hearbeats, birdsongs, suns, moons, etc. Weight could be measured in sacks of flour, barrels, skulls, apples, etc. Volume could be barrels or eggshells (if you have chocobos, velociraptors or ostriches in the setting)

Just remember:
It is important that the reader is able to imagine a rough estimate of the measure in two "mental steps" at most.
People tend to name everyday measures by consistent natural phenomenoms and things anybody could find and compare to. Particularly finding and comparing in the market itself.
The measures need to be comparable to things the people in the setting need in daily life. So a skull could be relevant because it could be considered the weight of the grain consumed daily by a family. Barrel isn't really that handy for food.
Modern measures used in science are often named after the scientists related to their discovery. So in a magitek setting they could be called "Cids", for example.

How do I make a game that runs like Paper Mario/SMRPG with how it handles action commands?

>>158470848
>>158472634
The most important thing is for the player/reader to never ask themselves the question, "Wait, how far/long/heavy is that?" If the monster falls on the hero and feels like "A cart-full of apples" or "A crate of horseshoes" that will get the weight across where as "The monster must have weighed a dozen (fictional units)." will leave them wondering and break immersion.

How does everyone here feel about a game with one party member who is LGBT?

>>158430436
Well that was worse than I'd expected

>>158477950
As long as it doesn't define their character and isn't forced down the player's throat, then it's fine. Keep the fact they they are LGBT to a few minor conversations between party members.

>>158476440
Sometimes you might want to leave the player wondering a bit. If say, a scientist is explaining the workings of a magitek ray gun in science-sounding terms, the player is probably not meant to understand it, unless he reads the magitek lore in some library, so you could use made up terms, like the "Cids" I mentioned earlier.

>>158478860
That's Technobabble, that's a different narrative tool than what he was talking about.

>>158477950
No issue at all if it is done well. Quips and bantz in dialog are fine, drawn out angst filled plots are right out. I'm bi and I hate when SJW types beat you over the head with their sexuality like it is a big deal which naughty bits they prefer to rub together.

Just make it witty. I got a laugh out of this reply from Bond https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OfpsKemIWI but they dropped it after that and moved on, it didn't become a whole thing.

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>>158477950
I don't feel negatively about LGBT characters, but:
I don't want characters who feel out of place in the story. A medieval knight who is gay shouldn't feel like a flamboyant New York fashion designer in medieval armor.
I don't want modern sjw drama about gender neutral pronouns or gay adoption in medieval stories. If there is any drama, there are more relevant things to the setting, like arranged marriages, stricter gender roles and such.

>>158478538
>>158480939
>>158481071
I guess it would help more to be more specific.
I have a character (his name is Daedalus but goes by Dae) who is a fisherman. You talk with him thanking him for his work and he's like "I actually hate fishing lol I wanna be a healer like my mom cause I have her powers but I'm the only boy and have to do the man's work" and eventually he joins you. He gets a stone from his cousin, which later when your characters are in hiding from a major kingdom, he uses to become a girl in secret, one of the other party members finds them and you find out they are trans. Not much is made of it after that instance, but eventually they will come out to the party and will eventually changed so their info refers to them as female (including changed face and character sprite)

>>158477950
>>158478538
Better yet, there is no need to make it a big deal in any way or form.
The largest problem most people have with it being rammed down our throats is basically the "LOOK EVERYONE, I'M GAY AREN'T I PROGRESSIVE" way of character design, be it in movies, shows, games, whatever.

Here's a recent example I respect immensely for how it's handling it.
Heavy spoilers for the most recent episode of Gotham ahead:
Once successful in his campaign to become major of Gotham, Penguin has a moment of clarity in that he thinks he has found true love in his campaign advisor, Edward Nygma, who has apparently protected him and his campaign from manipulation attempts by his former right hand Butch and various other threats.
At first it plays out like an awkward, intense friendship, then even more awkward when Penguin tries to confess to him after having a flashback to his late mother telling him to seize true happiness and true love.

Not once is there any mention of the word _gay_, it's not out of place as it figures into the greater plot, especially with its twists and turns, and while it does take an unexpected turn that way, it doesn't feel forced or hamfisted.

>>158474789
Events or scripts

>>158481876
This really depends on how much you delve into the topic. I'd be fine with getting to the point where they are no longer in hiding and someone asks "Aren't you going to change back?" and Dae responding with "Nah, I think I prefer this form actually." but if Dae goes into something like "Actually I have always felt like blah blah blah angst angst angst feel bad for my past and praise my heroic choice." then Dae can fuck right off.

>>158483076
well my game deals a lot on grief, suicide, and general bad feelings (as a way to cope with my own suicidal ideation) and it's learned that Dae has been struggling with the feelings for a long time. idk like, I want to delve into it a bit, but I just have this feeling like there are too many people who will be like "AGH LGBT PEOPLE?! Fuck the SJWs!" and throw it aside. And I'm trying my hardest to not make it seem like he's a trans character, rather than a character who happens to be trans. It's just also a big plot point and ties into why they are in danger in the first place (getting the stone from the cousin right as an army offensive happens) and also building trust between another party member and the rest of the party (they see him as a villain but his good treatment of Dae cause them to trust him a little more).

Regardless, I still want to include Dae as a trans character, I'm just trying to gauge how people will react.

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Does anyone else get FPS issues?
I’ve noticed that sometimes people get the game slightly freezing for a split second every 1-2 seconds, does that happen to everyone?

If it does, I might seriously consider making the game episodic.

>>158483789
I didn't notice anything.
Did you ask for their specs?

>>158483447
SJW tumblrites have pretty thoroughly poisoned that well I'm afraid. 1 of 2 things will happen. The SJW take your side and the Anti-SJW attack you, or the SJW find some convoluted flaw in how you presented a trans character and attack you. Or if you are really lucky, both can happen cuz SJW are a disorganized self cannibalizing group hell bent on proving who can act the most persecuted.

In any case you are in for a bad time on any of the topics you want to explore. So I hope you have a thick skin and can ignore social media posts, cuz you are going to need it.

>>158483789
It happened to me a few times, my pc isn't great so I assumed that was on my end. It only made a slight stutter for me from time to time.

>>158484456
I'll have to learn.
I don't think I will be as attacked by SJWs though. The reason I want to include a trans character so much is because I'm trans myself. So I'm trying to keep Dae as close to an analog of my own experience as I can, which hopefully leaves subtle hints that he's trans but still gives them a real character.

I know it's sacrilege to bring it up but I want it to be like Undertale only in that there was a canon lesbian couple but it wasn't made a big deal (but that's all I want, please no annoying fandom of 14 year olds please)

>>158477950
>one party member who is LGBT
What, all of it at the same time?

Serious answer though, variety is nice, but it's just a trait, and its presence or absence is not going to make me like or dislike a character.

>>158484856
>please no annoying fandom of 14 year olds please
You ask and you shall receive

>>158481876
I think that makes sense, and I could like it. Dae being your self-insertion makes it a bit weird, though.

>>158484856
I think you will be okay.
Most people only get annoyed by these characters if they are gay for the sake of being gay. "Oh look we have a gay character, isn't this great?" This was the first we learned about that mage in DA:I.
But a well written character which happens to be gay/lesbian/whatever is absolutely fine in my book. Arcade Gannon from Fallout New Vegas comes to mind.

>>158484856
>>158483447
I don't think this is a big deal but I can see why it would worry you. The creator of Undertale was mocked because of the Alphys thing, he didn't like his fandom much after release and was dissapointed in some areas, that's something that was clear (at least for me) after Projared played the game and they talked but that doesn't mean he hates them or anything, he knows how to deal with the fans and it was something that came with the territory so he was ready for it.

I think you're better off just doing what you want and developing that thick skin if it worries you, just focus on making a well written character and a fun game.

>>158484856
Basing it on your life is no guarantee when it comes to tumblrites, sadly. Personally though, I think you have an interesting idea going and should stick with it. Just as long as you're prepared that it could get super messy super fast.

>>158483447
>well my game deals a lot on grief, suicide, and general bad feelings
I feel that might already be a bit much myself. What you want to do can be done beautifully but what I'd worry about is if you have the actual writing experience to pull it off. All the amazing concepts in the world aren't worth anything if the execution isn't there. Obviously you won't get any practice if you don't try in the first place so you should go ahead if you really want it to. Just don't expect concepts and ideas to carry by themselves.

Live

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Someone made a discord server of the game! Join in if you want to.

https://discord.gg/Hdah3Vz

Does anyone have these two resources, or at least download links?
http://www.rpgmakerweb.com/a/graphics/katakura-hibiki-mv-monsters-vol-1

http://www.rpgmakerweb.com/a/graphics/ancient-dungeons-jungle

>>158494706
Same anon.

Posting this link in case anyone needs Katakura Hibiki's Lords of Darkness. Posted it a few months back when I got the resource pack, but I've been busy so haven't been able to come onto 4chan as much as I use to.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B48J7d9S5dwZanZVM2pWREtwWnc

Live

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>>158492094

>>158483789
I noticed regular stuttering, but I had several other programs open at the time. I thought that was just me since my computer isn't that great.

It wasn't too bad, though. A little annoying, but it wouldn't stop me from playing more.

Open wide
Here comes the bump~

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>got bored of my current WRPG project, deciding to retool it into a summoning-based game
>made too much progress in the original system to trash it
>don't want to clutter up my database with deprecated data

>>158477950
I guess you've gotten a lot of replies already, but I might as well toss my advice hat in the ring.

There's nothing wrong with the idea, of course. A LGBT character is like any other in that how they come across to the audience depends on how well they're written. It's not necessarily an easy thing to do well, even if you have personal experience with the subject, but don't let that stop you from trying.

It's unfortunately a sensitive subject to a lot of people for a lot of reasons, though. You're going to risk attracting negative attention from both people who see SJWs everywhere and people who would have already lynched you for only including four letters in LGBT. I think that's something you'll just have to deal with, but if you have good reason to try anyway (and it sounds like you do), I'd encourage you to go ahead with it.

The best advice I can give is that nobody likes being preached at, except people who like to preach themselves. A random peasant who pours out their life story to the player and whinges about societal oppression in a suspiciously modern way is going to stand out like a sore thumb. In a game like yours, which sounds like it will have a lot of characters dealing with their own problems, a character struggling with gender identity doesn't sound out of place at all. Not that you can't have transgender characters in brighter stories, but you know what I mean.

Of course, a game like that isn't easy to write well, but that's something else entirely.

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>>158483789
Didn't notice anything in particular.
Although I found one grammar error. In the picture it should say, "Mom... didn't we have* a fairly decent amount of money even after you were fired?"

>>158390959
4- It seems like some non-unicode character is used in a string in there somehow.
I could look at it real quick if you want, I know a tiny bit of rubyscript.

Playing Robutts really gave me motivation to work on my game!

>>158483789
It does on my shitty laptop.
My desktop it works just fine.

What is your MC's greatest fear?

>>158518992
Saying something stupid.
Which is why you're not timed for speech choices.

>>158518992
Probably that things will never get better for her or that she'll continue to feel like suicide is the only way out.

>>158518992
Losing to the dick

>>158526620
B-but you can't defeat the dick, that's impossible!

>>158526620
>your MC fears inevitability
That's pretty deep, desu.

>>158518992
Mediocrity.

He's aspiring to be an Overlord, after all..

>>158518992
Losing control of his golems. Being squashed by an angry humanoid lump of lead or bitten by an animated cobra statue is a very real danger for an artificer.

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Making assets is fun! I'll work on updating the demo tomorrow by hopefully fixing the fps issues.
I'll most likely have to change things though, what's probably causing the stutter is the cutscene where the scientists leave when offered the job to investigate the plant.
RPG Maker has a hard time creating, then deleting tons of pictures apparently.

For some reason I'm kinda anxious right now, no idea why but I don't like this feeling of doom creeping up on me.
How would you cheer up your MC if he/she is feeling depressed?
I don't think getting all emotional with hugging and promises of staying at her side would work well.
Instead we probably would get absolutely drunk and wake up naked next to each other on a roof or something.

>>158532374
Drugs. Sex. In that order.

>>158532374
Take them to a carnival.
Then let everyone rip on the MC for not enjoying themselves.

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>>158533269
>Bullying

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*spooking intensifies*

https://youtu.be/ZQOK9CG8JFE

New podcast. Happy Halloween! Ib is really great. I love how much it pushes its engine, and makes use of so many custom assets.

Thanks again to Karbonic for the thumbnail, and we'll see you all in two weeks!

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Help me, /rpgmg/. I'm starting to feel crazy.

Is 30% chance of a 30% chance not the same as a 9% chance? On every level, I mean, including consistency.

For example, one 50% chance of D3 rewards has the same average of D3 chances of a 50% chance of a reward, but the latter is far more consistent - average of 2 chances at 50%, statistically equally one reward, compared to a 50% chance at an average of two rewards, statistically equally one reward. Same value in the long run, but different consistency.

Back to my problem though. 30% chance something will hit your armor, 30% chance the armor will deflect that hit. Instead of rolling a D100 twice, I figured 30% * 30% = 9%, and roll one D100 against that.

So WHY is this so inconsistent? It should be roughly 1 in 10 times, yet it's only happened once in 25 trials. Sure, it'll average out to same as 30% then 30%, but shouldn't they have the exact same consistency? Switching to 30% by 30%, I get a good, even 30% against the armor, and a good 30% of those glancing off - far more consistency. I don't understand where the variance is coming from.

>>158534532
Exactly what I needed.
You guys are pretty cool for still making these.

>>158535519
What exactly are the results you're supposed to get?

Because based on what you're just saying, 9% is the chance where BOTH effects proc. What percent would it be to have those effects happen individually?

Are you saying you also have a 30% chance where it just glances off while not hitting your armor??

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>>158536970
>What exactly are the results you're supposed to get?
They should both equate to 9% with equal consistency.

Pic related. Primary is the number of times 9 or less was scored on a D100. For Secondary, if that same first D100 scored a 30 or less, an additional D100 was rolled, and if that second D100 was ALSO 30 or less, Secondary was increased by one. Tertiary is the number of that trials were run.

My problem is, in the case of a small sample size, such as this measly 737 trials, there is almost always a huge discrepency between Primary and Secondary. In a larger sample size, such as 15,000 trials, they are very, very close to each other.

In other words, while the two both do equal 9%, achieving this by 30% of 30% seems to be far more consistent (as in near 9% regardless of sample size), and a flat 9% has more variance that get smoothed out in large sample sizes.

But for the life of me, I can't see why this is. There shouldn't be consistency issues with these two. Would 30% of 30% of 30% be consistently closer to 3% than a flat 3%? I don't understand.

>>158537923

Consider the fact that for small sample sizes, a too-perfect distribution of probabilities is a sign of a bad RNG.

I tried your experiment using a spreadsheet and random numbers generated by random.org

I ran the experiment twice. In trial 1, the d100 < 9 case occurred 3.5% of the time and the compound d100 < 30 case occurred 6.5% of the time.

In the second trial, the probabilities were 9% and 8% respectively.

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>>158538628
>a sign of a bad RNG
Well, it's Javascript, which is all I can work with here. I've look at Javascript's array before on a D100 - basically by rolling the die and setting $gameVariables.setValue($dice, $gameVariables.value($dice) + 1).

It seems fine both in spread and distribution. I think by 2,000-something trials (wasn't counting), the lowest was 16 (as in, it had been rolled 16 times in the 2,000-something rolls of a D100), the highest was 39, with every sort of number in between, usually around the mid-20s range. I did it to check if lower numbers were somehow favored or obstructed, but no test indicated this.

>>158539141
Code looks fine, so I have to assume any discrepancy you're seeing betwe the forms is just a fluke.

>>158539141
Remember, unless you're doing practically many thousands of rolls, results don't always get to the predicted percentage.

Getting heads in a coin flip is a 50% chance, but at low enough number of flips, you can get results where you can get a huge number of either heads or tails in a row that won't even out until many several flips later.

>>158540053
>Remember, unless you're doing practically many thousands of rolls, results don't always get to the predicted percentage.
I know that. My main complaint is that somehow 30 of 30 seems consistently closer to 9% than a flat 9% at low sample sizes.

Like a coin flip, those two should be consistent in their variance.

However, there are ways for two results of the same statistical chance to have varying consistency, and I was wondering if that somehow applied here. For example, flip a coin to get 2 rewards for each Heads. Or, flip two coins to get 1 reward for each Heads. In both cases, they average to 1 reward per trial. However, the latter will be much, much, much more consistent on producing that 1 reward per trial. So in a small sample size, the latter would remain closer to 1 than the former. would be expected to.

In short, I am wondering if that same principal can be applied here.

>>158540428
If you want rng with "more consistency", look up bell curves.

>>158540617
No, no. It's not consistency that's desired or undesired. It's the question of if there "is" a consistency difference between 30% of 30% and 9%. To the very best of my knowledge, there isn't - or there shouldn't be. However, my efforts today have suggested a pattern of consistency - 30% of 30% will remain closer to the 9% than a flat 9% would. And I haven't the faintest clue why. Like >>158539620 says, it should just be a fluke, unless I'm missing something empirical about this. The only thing I can possibly think of is the fact that 30 of 30 is getting two dice rolls over one, which might demonstrate consistency by the additional volume.

Ultimately, it doesn't "really" matter. Deciding between the two choices won't make or break my game. It's just that all armor pieces in my game have both a cover rating (the chance an attack hits your armor) and a deflection rating (the chance an attack that hits your armor is deflected off). I figured it would be fine to simply multiply the two together before rolling - so 30% cover and 30% deflection makes a 9% chance an attack will hit and deflect off, thus roll a D100 against 9 - but I wasn't satisfied with the result and found doing two separate rolls, one for each rating, produced a more consistent model, which goes against my knowledge of probability.

You could say I'm trying to satisfy a curiosity.

>>158518992
Getting possessed.
Doesn't help the two times he was possessed he ended up killing a boatload of people.

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Good night bump

come back to life

>>158531841
I'm having a hard time seeing if that's supposed to be a raised area or a fenced-in one. The left side looks more fence, the right more raised... at least to my eyes.

I am wondering how to make magic in a game feel more special and grand than a LARPer spamming lightning bolt. I thought about limiting the availability of magic compared to a normal setting. Like say a magic user has to go to a place to recharge, a church for a cleric, arcane school for a mage for examples, but making the spells really powerful. That is flawed tho as players will just keep running back to the place every time they run out, which is shit gameplay. Also thought about limiting spells to powerful buffing and debuffing in the form of blessings and curses, but I wonder if that is too boring.

I really like low tier magic settings rather than fireball fling fests, but at the moment I am coming up short with ways to spice that kind of indirect magic system up. Any ideas?

>>158554932
Yes

>>158558075
Your source of magic is a familiar who you take care of with tamagotchi mechanics. During combat you must channel its MP to yourself with an MP Drain ability to use magic. If the familiar gets KO'd during combat, you soon run out of MP.

Demon negotiation. Similar but not quite. Your sorcerer is some kind of demon who follows you around, but you must offer your demon ally money, some kind of item or just sweet talk him into helping in order for him to do anything. Otherwise the demon just slacks around during the fight while you get beaten up (think Ushio to Tora and SMT).

You are a mana vampire. You gain MP by damaging and killing enemies. If you run out of MP, you can cast spells with your health.

"Attunement". You need to use a turn to tune your spirit with an elemental, so you are able to cast magic of that element. An anon was already doing something like this.

"Hand Signs" (CTB only). You don't select the spells you cast. You make "hand signs" nd say cryptic words meaning different things (large area, water, status ailment), then you release the spell. Depending on the hand signs and the order in which you made them, you get a spell. Or you get nothing if you messed up your "spell grammar". Note that this is best if your opponent uses similar signs, allowing you to predict incoming moves as well.

Magic Dance. Similar, but without the "release" casting and you actually get to choose the spells in the menu. Basically imagine a "spell tree" in which every spell limits you to a new specific branch of spells, so you might now 40 spells, but at any point in time you can only pick between 2-4.

>>158560673
Another idea could be having different MP bars for different magic elements. So you could have Sky Mana, Earth Mana and Sea Mana, with each type of Mana excelling at different aspects (healing, buffs, debuffs, area damage, single target damage). Kinda like the Mana in Magic the Gathering.

>>158504990
Back it up and save the system for another game.

> Someone has a problem, asks about support
> I solved the problem myself you can close this thread!
> Doesn't say how they solved it.
> Anyone else that has the problem is shit outta luck.
If you do this, you're an asshole.

>>158573836
story of my life when I was trying to find out some errors from a script I imported. I ended up deleting the script instead but MAN that's annoying as fuck. I had mine kind of answered but wanted more help and to have them explain it so everyone knows what to do and they just never replied to the thread ever again. Annoying as hell.

>>158574651
And the best part is because someone asked the question once, it can never be asked again or you'll get told to use the search tool!

>>158554932
If you insist.

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>>158573836
>Nvm fixed it :)

Does your MC have any pets?

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>>158573836
>They post the solution
>Doesn't work for you anyway

Hello, question does somebody here has Yanfly Sample Project, the one that they give as Patreon (I don't have a credit card, and Paypal is no available in my country)

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Is anyone else getting this? Did Hiroshimoot break the site again?

>>158590115
Yeah me too

>>158590115
Just get 4chan pass and flaunt your badge :^)

Dying is not allowed

>>158593873
Yes it is.

>>158384339
I have no idea if it's required, but I could make a crack for 1.3.3 if anyone's interested. I'll be doing it for my own use anyway, but I understand if no one wants to trust a random anon's exe.

What is new in 1.3.3?
I still have 1.0.

>want to make a boss gameplay video
>music is licensed

Fug, I'm not even going to use it in the final version of the game... what's the worse that could happen if I used it anyways?

>>158598391
Better lube up for the lawyers.
I guess the worst is that the video could be muted.

>>158598391
It could be copyright striked. But they'll just put up ads on the video and you won't make anything off it. It could be muted. Or both. Worst case they take it down and you get one of three strikes on said channel. Still not that bad though.

>>158598391
It could be muted and that would fuck up your video sadly. Best case scenario it's that they monetize it.

Can you find that music in youtube if you search for it? If you can find other videos using that music and they're not muted the worst that will happen is copyright strike.

>>158598934
>>158599279
>>158599807

Damn... okay. The song is quite renowned so maybe I'll have to find another song, which sucks because it was very fitting. It was this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tzE98pQH08

>>158600875
So does that mean you uploaded it and it got muted, or are you just scared to do it? Because realistically, the only thing that's going to happen is they monetize it so that one 86 year old guy in Nicaragua who still browses yt without adblock maybe sees an ad at some point.

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>>158603742
>that one 86 year old guy in Nicaragua who still browses yt without adblock maybe sees an ad at some point

>>158604382
Not him, but Google's getting smarter. If I block their ad servers sometimes videos won't load at all

>>158603742
I lack a lot of experience with legal stuff so I'm not very aware of how music copyright is enforced in practice. It's not that I'm scared but I want to avoid getting in trouble.

Still, after some reading I've decided to use the song anyway. From what I read the first copyright strike doesn't carry too many penalties and if the video gets muted then I could reupload it on another account.

I thought the price of the license had something to do with how bad the consequences of copyright infringement would be. The maker of the song charges $50 for his music to be used in low-budget videos

Thanks for your answers guys.

>>158604382
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt9riXQUIDw

Tell me something about your first dungeon.

>>158609934
it's a forest. it's one room. it's kinda boring.

>>158364976
Whew.. That's a long ass torso and some shorrrrrrt thighs.

Help me stay motivated!

>>158613959
I'll give you a kiss if you make some progress

>>158613959
I'll suck your dick if you make some progress

>>158613959
I will stop that anon from kissing you if you make progress

Show me your map and I'll point out it's weaknesses.

>>158614074
>>158614189
>>158614201
Okay, I'm gonna work hard!

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>>158615389
So will I

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>>158615117
I'm using this as a placeholder, I'm going to make my assets after I get a good portion of the story events done.
Each map is a room like this with curtains around the edges of the screen.
I also need to change the character sprites.

>>158619251
>those bodies with that head
Jesus christ

>>158619251
Not him but I like that idea.
Your whole game is basically a play then?

>>158619251
If you're going to use perspective instead of a projection, I'd stick with one-point perspective, with the vanishing point towards the top-middle and avoid ceilings.

>>158623604
Yup, supposed to look like those old paper plays.
>>158624273
I feel dumb that I had to look projection up, but thank you for making me aware of that. I was hoping to go for a Dongan Ranpa style of 2d planes in a 3d field, but with out the 3d.

>>158472634
When you put it that way I am surprised why I didn't think about that. Thank you!!!

Now I just need to think of temperature

Is there any bumping in your game?

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Holy shit, I'm in tears.

For testing my game's combat, I made a simple little system. You get X pts to decide your character's stats at the beginning, then you spawn in a tavern where you get Y gold to buy recruits, weapons, and armor. Then, when you leave the tavern, you fight with whatever you've just assembled. Simple enough.

So I was testing builds where someone dumps everything into Defence Skill or Combat Skill, making sure one didn't outshine the other, and someone maxing out armor or weapons while ignoring recruits, or buying max recruits with no gear, etc.. Right towards the end, I had a little idea: instead of dumping into combat stats, what about Faith? After all, even if your character cannot hit or dodge for shit, maybe his deity will help him out? For damage, he can buy a good weapon.

So enter Corn-Holy-o.
>0 CBT, 0 DEF, 0 LUK, 77 Faith.
>Wearing full iron armor and a great sword.
>Can only move 1 space a turn. Can only attack once a turn.
against two mooks
>50 CBT, 30 DEF, 1 LUK, 1 FTH.
>In standard armor and standard weapons.
>Each moves 5 spaces a turn and attacks 3 times a turn.
>100% chance to hit Corn-holy-o. Takes 80% of his life if they do.

I had no idea what to expect.

In one turn, both mooks swoop in on him, and its just 6 messages of "attack deflected off armor," "attack diverted by divine hands." He tries to swing back, gets one message, "A divine hand guides his clumsy blow into a hit. 12 damage."

I've made a tank of faith and righteous fury as he slowly chips away at his enemies.

>>158628543
Forgot to add, it took about 9 rounds for the mooks to finally kill him. He managed to take 70% of one mook's life before then. Freaking amazing.

>>158628543
This sounds absolutely awesome

Do you guys know of a plugin that allows to insert images behind the rpg maker mv menus, so it looks decent enough? I can't program a shit, and really want to customize it a little...

RNG based puzzles are the worst

>>158631427
You can edit the UI pretty easily

>>158633163
How? I cant find a way. I know that I can change the colors, but I wanted some images in the back or maybe changing some sizes of the boxes (or just the images so it looks cooler, since changing sizes look like a hassle)

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Good night bump

No die.

>>158643814
Not today

Would there be any way to make some actions in combat take place simultaneously? For example, if an actor and an enemy have the same speed and if they both just attack, both attacks will occur at once and deal damage to both parties at the same time? (Alternatively, having both attacks cancel out would work too.)

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This guy came off as more of a miner than a farmer, did he not?
(the thing on top of his head are meant to be antlers shaped like a plough)

>>158651476
That's a cool design, I like it

Any good tutorials on how to start messing around with the UI for a battle system, or with general dialogue? I'm not sure how to really look up information since I don't know the right terminology.

>>158652045
The battle interface is often called "battle hud" you can start from there. For the UI, for menus etc, I'm facing the same problem, I don't know how to customize it and I dont even know how to start (im using mv). I use moghunter's battle hud, though, if you use mv it may have some plugin for it?

>>158652736
Ok, cool, thanks. I got some custom battle scripts but I'm still trying to figure out how ti import them.

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>>158652736
Any suggestions?

>>158654820
Sorry. I am not sure.

(bump)

Hi, is there an updated link for the crack of vx ace?
the one from the op seems to be down.

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>>158654820
That location is used when you have more characters I believe, so be wary of that. You can use it for sure though. I don't remember exactly what I changed so I'll just link you how my Window_BattleStatus looks for me now and you can compare and modify to your liking.
http://pastebin.com/KiE6pFjZ

>>158668086
This is super helpful, thanks. What's the name of the icon?

>>158668202
The square with the face? Think just the draw_actor_face(actor, rect.x + 10, rect.y)

>>158668086
Skeletons don't have dicks mate

Just got done with the first battle in SteelZeroes. I have to say:
1) This game is CUTE AS HECK and Luke is ADORABLE and I just wanna give him a big hug!
2) This game is really polished well. Including a jump option is great!
3) I now feel like my game is 1000x more inferior but I have to remember I can make mine better with better art/music

good job on the game! I'm going to see if my friends in a discord group I'm in want to play it too!

Three new songs!

https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/on-our-way
https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/everything-we-love-mid-boss
https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/remember-my-fire

>>158420832
I guess I'll download this version and start again, since I didn't get far the first time anyway. I'll let you know if it fixes my framerate issues.

It might be a few more days before I can finish it, though. I'm really busy right now.

Also bump.

>>158676145
Really good songs!

>>158683575
thx brusef

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Can I receive some general feedback on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnBSKT84KUs&feature=youtu.be

>>158676145
You clearly know what you're doing - the sound is good and you have a nice flow, but you keep looping very short sections, and it makes things feel a bit repetitive at times.

>On Our Way
The volume gets noticeably louder at 0:20, then even more at 0:32 and 0:42, which I find a bit distracting. But it sounds nice over all - getting some Seiken and Suikoden series vibes at times.

>Everything We Love
I'm not sold on the "guitar solo" bits (it would help if they were more varied), but over all it's a solid (mid) boss theme.

>Remember My Fire
I still feel like it builds up to something for the first 30 seconds and gets quieter when I'm expecting the opposite, but that aside it's pretty great and my favourite of the three.

>>158688279
I feel like the styles of your graphics clash a lot - the overworld and portraits vs the title screen, sprites, and combat background.

Other than that, I'm not too keen on watching someone else navigate JRPG fight menus for 5+ minutes without commentary or anything. The space background IS neat, though!

>>158689746
Not him but I assume he is working with placeholders for now.

What would your MC say about you?

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http://hastebin.com/uzefaxoqek.rb

Why is this still happening? My method down by line 36 doesn't rely on the rectangle, so why are my icons still being cut off?

>>158689746
Thanks. The sprites and title screen image are placeholders, and the combat background will only be used in special occassions. All the other backgrounds will be accordingly to the artstyle. Also I can understand why it can be boring to watch someone navigate through menus too much, so from now on I'll only showcase enemies that don't require too much time for planning a strategy

>>158688279
How high is Hans right now?

What is your favorite RPG Maker game?

>>158696242
I would have to say Exit Fate.

>>158696472
Haven't played that one.
What's it about?

Haha, time to do sports for 20~30 minutes and then work on my game.

>>158696242
I think I have to go with A Blurred Line, even though it was never finished. But I've never played a lot of the other big ones.

Or maybe Phylomortis just for the hilarious writing style. I never actually finished it.

>>158697982
War, friendship, betrayal, all that good shit. It draws a lot of inspiration from Suikoden, with the same kind of political drama and large scale battles between armies.

Bumpu

>>158628543
That sounds super fucking fun. I want to play your game as a crazy holy cleanser now. Let's do it!

Whoa, bump.

bumo

>>158709063
>>158712247
This

>>158712247
bumomo

>Villain's motivation is to go home to their own dimension.
>Opening portal will probably have new monsters flood into the world as a result.

This is an okay villain motivation, right?

>>158717080
I think it's decent enough, yes.
But how did he end up in a different dimension in the first place? Maybe by accident? Is he some sort of scientist?
And is there no other way to return home?

>>158717805
This is gonna be long but...
>Hundreds of years before setting's current time.
>Dark War basically ruined everything.
>The catalyst was opening a portal to another dimension that let monsters through and send everything into an apocalypse.
>Villain(s) also come from the same dimension, got experimented on and eventually hibernated.
>Dark War eventually died own on its own.
>World changes because monsters now rampant.
>Civilization rebuilt itself.
>Then Villain(s) reawaken, just want to go home.
>Experimentation possibly made some of them insane.

And yeah, they were transported without really knowing how, so all they really know is to use the same machine that brought them to the world in the first place.

>>158717080
>>158718376
In this case you shouldn't say villain, but antagonist.
There's no villainous intent here, no evil plan to destroy the world or whatever, but there is collateral damage that makes that character an opposition to the heroes.

Not every antagonist has to be a villain. I'd even argue that a lot of great antagonists aren't villains.

>>158718786
Fair enough. Sometimes English escapes me when I get ideas as sudden as this.

>>158719994
No worries, I wasn't trying to argue semantics or to correct you.
Unless you study literature or writing specifically, I don't think the concept of protagonist and antagonist is taught very well, nor is it always very obvious. It took me until recently to fully appreciate the nuances there can be between villains and antagonists.

But that's not the point, it's still a good motivation. A great one, even, if this character's motivations are made clear enough.
I don't think there's even a good consensus on what makes a fantastic antagonist, but there's a delicious dichotomy to be had when you allow your players to sympathize with the antagonist, but force them to fight them because they want to survive themselves.

>>158628543
>>158706148
Same here. Faith-based characters sound hilarious, if maybe a little hard to balance.

Realized I could use different pitches for hits and misses on attacks while making unique attack animations. Life is good.

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Good night bump

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alive thread
finish your games anons, you'll always have a player!

bump away that page 10!

>>158734397

>>158739049

>>158693037
blease respond

Dead engine, dead thread desu

>>158724768
Good morning bump

Bubbles has been 'working on the collab' for nearly half a year.

How much longer do we give him before we start over?

On that note, how about next time we limit the collab to 10 chapters or so? That way, it won't get as convoluted, and new devs won't be overwhelmed with everything that's already in the game

Hey everyone! I just started a project after not touching RPGMaker in some years and was hoping to get some feedback on one of the core gameplay mechanics I want to implement.

Instead of mana, characters have a bar I'm dubbing "Heat" (the characters are gonna be cyborgs and robots and such). So, Heat starts at 0 and builds up as you use most attacks and abilities. Getting it to cap at 100 causes the character to become overheated, paralyzing them for 2 turns or so. Most enemies also abide by this system as well. Characters all have access to a "venting" ability that allows them to dispel a decent chunk of Heat. Naturally there'll be various other ways Heat can be used in battle such as the ability to cause your attacks to build Heat in enemies, moves that grow in power the more heat you have, etc. I'd love to hear if this sounds like a fun layer of strategy or a frustrating thing, and what changes to make/factors to consider I should take note of.
Thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to read!

>>158749907
Sounds really cool, although two turns of paralysis might be a bit too large a penalty in most combat engines, unless the overheating drastically drops afterwards too.

Also, do regular attacks cause Heat? Would Guard help reducing it?

>>158597107

Oh yes, that would be absolutely wonderful of you if you could do it. We would be in your debt.

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>>158338408
I am not liking that intro screen. Personally, I would try to rip off something like Paramor's Riot's disk cover.

I want to bump in your thread

>>158753206
I plan on not having basic attacks, so every attacking move would increase heat in some way. Your Heat would drop all the way back down to 0 after recovering from Overheating.
Number-wise, the plan is for most "average" abilities to increase your heat by about 20, while venting would reduce it by 50.
These are both out of 100. I wanted to use TP as a base but I might go with Mana instead and lock it at or around 100 so that it's easier to work around (enemies don't have TP so they'd need to use Mana for their Heat anyways, will be able to easily have factors that change max Heat, etc)

>>158688594
Thanks for the feedback!

Ironically, I kinda felt the same way about Remember My Fire when I was making it. Unfortunately I felt I had such a solid build-up and then didn't know where to go, so I decided to branch out rather than simply amplifying it.

>>158748587
>half a year
Fuck, has it been really that long?

>>158758756
Overheating isn't a big enough penalty for what you get

>Want to use ability that adds 70 Heat
>At 95 Heat
>Vent
>Vent
>Use ability
>Vent again
End result: 4 turns, 20 Heat

Whereas...

>At 95 Heat
>Use ability that costs 70 Heat
>Cooldown
>Cooldown
3 turns, 0 Heat

>>158760208
That's a good point. I feel that increasing the stun time any more might just make it too boring though.
Do you think Overheating dealing a fair chunk of damage would help?
Say, 20% each turn for 40% total?

>>158760208
When you put it like that, I'd never vent.
What if you made it so the cooldown from overheating gave your characters some debuffs?
That way, players might not risk overheating on a boss or something- but still have the option to just overheat to power through lower level enemies.

>>158761234
Characters should take increased damage while cooling down. They're completely unable to act, which would include dodging or blocking, so it makes a little sense.

>>158761234
Having it not drop all the way to 0 (50%?) would also be a decent solution