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Should I buy warhammer?
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>opening cinematic will only include first 4 factions

LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
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>>158280468
Yes you should if you like total war games

also >>158280415 for anyone who could help me
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>>158280468

Yes.

If you're near a Games Workshop store go there after the 28th and get a code for the new Legendary Lord along with a 20% off coupon.
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HAHAHHA here we GO again, another round of stale memes and shitposting.
another round of tomb kangz,meme rats, meme elves, meme goblins, meme squigs, AHHHH rome, le ebin vlad, and etcetera.

I'm fucking tired of this general, you autists are the absolute bane of this board, holy shit I would stomp every single one of you meme spouting neckbeards in a second with my bare hands.
For the love of god stop posting these memes, I'm tired, I just want to discuss Total War and not have to scroll trough a wall of memes.
Enough is enough.
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>>158280498
>>>/tg/
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>>158280498
End Times series is great, I would suggest The Return of Nagash or Rise of the Horned Rat
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Belegar Ironhammer.
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>>158280539
Go back to your dead game, /mbg/
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>All that lovely timber just waiting to be burned as fuel for my military war machine.
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>>158280428
row-row-rollan!
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>>158280967
ROLLLAAAAAN

pls no chaos
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>>158280967
I guess
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>>158280967
I want to Crusade as Volkmar, remove non-humans.
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>>158280539
>le ebin vlad
le ebin Skarsnik!

>>158280468
Yes
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Ah /twg/ the eternal general
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>>158280782

WARLORD OF EIGHT PEAKS
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SETTRA DOES NOT SERVE.

SETTRA RULES.
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>>158281017
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>158280539

bontus
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>>158281017
Close, but no cigar.
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>>158281017

Good man
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>>158281116

Ayyy Milan, fug!
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>>158280468
If you like Total War or Fantasy stuff then yes.

Just go in knowing it's kind of like a early access game. it's only just out and there's more stuff in the works but it will take time before it's at it's peak.
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>>158280907
Can't wait for the day I can make the woods number one export turn from wood to salt.
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>>158280468

Do you like fantasy fiction? The setting is broadly drawn so if you have a rudimentary understanding of basic bitch fantasy stuff (Tolkien, a bit of D&D, trashy genre literature) then you won't miss much. There's a lot of depth to the setting but you can pick all that up if you end up getting genuinely interested after playing.

Do you like Total War games? The game is simplified in a lot of ways from previous titles, mostly on the Campaign map management side, there's no food mechanic, no sanitation, diplomacy is very shallow, etc. But the primary difference from previous titles comes with the factions being a LOT more distinct than in previous games, what with the factions being entirely different races rather than primarily distinguishing factions by what color jersey and hat they wear. Some things are shared between each faction, like all of them having at least one heavily armored, elite infantry unit that uses a two handed weapon. But how you actually play each of them as a whole is quite different.
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>>158280967
TASTE GOLD MAGIC!
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>>158281463

When Scavenger are released ahead of big dumb elven scum?
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>>158280967
ok ok
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Why do I love Skarsnik so much?
It's pretty simple when I iz finkin' 'bout it.
Skarsnik izn't just da best character in da War'ammer world, 'ee might just be da greenest character of all time.
Just imaging 'im riding fru da halls of Karak Eight-Peaks, da wind in 'is 'at, 'is mighty Gobbla below 'im.
As 'ee rides fru da World's Edge Mountains, da Stunties soil demselves at 'is very scent.
Dey knows 'ow 'ee smells, da essence of 'is smell iz in da Stunties Book of Grudges unda da name of "Skarsnik Fungusm"
Da very nature of Skarsnik iz mystery.
Could 'ee be playin' a deepa game den even Gork and Mork realizes?
Da answer iz yes, 'ee 'as transcended such boundaries as da written world, and 'as free will to do woteva 'ee seez fit.
'owever, Skarsnik iz filled wiff such cunnin', such morky craft dat 'ee does not even use deese powers.
Why, you might ask? You will neva know, for da mind of Skarsnik iz not one dat iz easily penetrated.
Skarsnik iz such a force of Mork in 'is realm dat nofink can truly touch 'im, da only fink keeping 'im bound to da page at all iz 'is will to exist wiffin da preordained boundaries of 'is world.
Skarsnik iz not only beyond da compre'enssiun of us, 'ee exists wiffin a plane of true gorkiness and morkiness.
Observe 'is playful smile, 'is gorgious and rippling Gobbla, 'is gallant nose, and most importantly, 'is eyes.
'is eyes, like pools of shinies, provide da only glimpse into da true maschinassiuns of Skarsnik. Do not stare into dem. Many good boyz 'ave gone dead in da attempt.
Skarsnik iz not just a character, a formless collectiun of words and images, 'ee 'imself iz da binding dat 'olds da Warhammer world togeva.
Wiffout Skarsnik, da entire War'ammer world, da entire Games Workshop as we knows it crumbles.
No Stunties or Ratboys would be stomped wiffout Skarsnik and Karak Eight-Peaks would become a desolate crater wiffout 'is iron fist.
Deese are just of a few of da reasons why I like Skarsnik so much.
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>>158281574
>sigvald

ehhh I dont really feel like it
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>>158281579

Stop mukin' about
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>>158281047
SETTRA is a fag
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>>158281638

What's the matter? To much of a basic bitch to handle debauchery?
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>>158281639
Yes boss
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>>158281579
Why do I love Augustus so much?
It's pretty simple when I think about it.
Augustus isn't just the best roman emperor, he might just be the best emperor of all time.
Just imaging him riding through the streets of Rome, The wind in his hair, his mighty legions following him.
As he rides through italia, the rebels soil themselves at his very scent.

The very nature of Augstus is mystery.
Could he be playing a deeper game than even Venus realizes?
the answer is yes, he has transcended such boundaries as the written world, and he is free to do whatever he sees fit.
However, Augustus is filled with such valor, such wisdom that he does not even use these powers.
Why, you might ask? You will never know, for the mind of Augustus is not one that is easily penetrated.
Augustus is not only beyond comprehension for us, he exists within a plane of trve roman valor and wisdom.

Observe his playful smile, his gorgeous locks, his gallant nose, and most importantly, his eyes.
His eyes, like pools of water, provide the only glimpse into the true machinations of Augustus. Do not stare into them. Many brave men have perished in the attempt.
Augustus is not just an emperor, a forgotten piece of history, he himself is the binding that holds Rome together.
Without Augustus, the roman empire as we knows it crumbles.
No rebels or barbarians would be crushed without Augustus and Rome would become a desolate crater without his iron fist.
These are just a few of the reasons why I like Augustus so much.
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why does this general have the best memes
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>>158281913
those memes are pretty basic desu, /sp/ have the best memes
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>>158281913

Meme sustained us in the driest of content droughs. Memes are mother to us all.
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>>158282004
>/sp/ have the best memes
nah /sp/ is p shit tbqh
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>killed norn
>killed angrund
>killed green poop drwafs
>razed tillea
>had to leave a stack to keep empire stacks away and razed all the empire cities near the mountain range

wasted my time and missed the whole point now that i think about it
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>>158282038
I'll fight you IRL
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>>158282042
Is having fun a waste?
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>>158282097
you messed with the wrong guy kid
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>>158282193

Who the fuck has fun with video games?
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So when's the next race pack?

Also can any one give any tips for orc campaign? I can't seem to get my cities stable enough for long war campaigns.

where the skaven be?
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>>158282314

Bretonnia when?
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>>158282193
i guess its still fun just have to heave and actually take 8 peaks now and hopefully stop pinching coins
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Belegar Ironhammer
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>>158282217
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little grobi? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in Altdorf's College of Magic, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Sylvania, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in ambush stance and I’m the top wizzard in the entire Empire armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across Stirland and your location is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm of chaos that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in hammer and anvil, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Reiksguard and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the old world, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. By Sigmar, you're fucking dead,.
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Elves are for ______
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>>158282490
Belegay Fudgehammer XDDD
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>>158282571
stabbin'
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>>158282571
Stabbin'

With my dick, in their ass.
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>>158282571
Breeding.
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>>158280553
are those good as an introduction to the series?
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>>158280967
clams
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Stay out of my fucking country Carstein.
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>>158282767
I found them to be.
Not at all to Warhammer fantasy entirely, but the end times absolutely
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>>158280468
you should wait until the 28th, with Grombrindal codes (which a lot of people will get, since it's free) comes a -25% coupon for the base game

Yes, worth the buy if you like Total War and/or Warhammer fantasy
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I knew they were coming eventually, and I started to prepare. Then I forgot and now shits going to get sacked
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>>158281913
the (relatively) cancer-free conditions give the best meme harvests
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>>158282571
world dominance
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It is now October. The sallow season deepens its hold on Athel Loren. It is a dark time, a time of mourning. As the spites and spirits of the forest grow slothful and recalcitrant, the enemies of the Asrai seek to defile the sacred glades. Ratposting is rampant. The Deep Thinking Goblin looms, esoteric and obscene. Athel Loren is a realm under siege. The King of the Woods cannot be found; the kinbands are scattered and given over to dissolute indulgence, pursuing until the last comfort over exertion.

Yet it is comfort itself that is imperiled; Should the Asrai fade from the Old World the beauty of their existence, a recordless history of leisure and frivolity without equal, will disappear, leaving the clamoring, scrabbling bustle of the outside world without counterpoint or enlightening example. It is a dark time. But even in the deep gloom of autumn, a hope flickers. A whisper on the winds, melodious like the clinking of tea cups on saucers.

Wood Elves soon.
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are there any mods that make the game's colours a bit more lively?
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>>158283147
G O B B O S
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>>158283191
>Wood Elves soon
kek
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>>158282490
more like smellegar lmao
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reposting from yesterday

i've just got round to fighting this battle
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>>158283191
>this level of delusion
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>>158281525
I mean we already got half a lakes full when KatW came out before elves.

I really hope they do just because the drama is so fun.
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>>158283414
the spider was the last unit standing for the goblins
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>>158283414
You think that weird out of place Crooked Moon traitorous gitz faction is just a placeholder for Skaven owning Karak Eight Peaks when the DLC is released?
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>>158283494
Did you fight a field battle or did you attack the Hold directly?
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>>158283593
I attacked exactly as this screenshot shows >>158283414
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>>158283651
With those odds the AI would've just attacked you. Easier to win a field battle than a siege battle. I think this is why pic related triggered half the thread when I posted it the first time around.
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how good are flagellants?
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>>158283759
>>158283494
Literally how?
I'd love to see a replay of that.
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>>158283191
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help
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>>158283759
I didn't even bother waiting, wasn't going to wait 4 turns for a siege tower

>>158283881
i'll post some screenshots from the main points of the battle if you want?
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>>158283889
>>158283191
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Today is maximum comfy
Its my first day off in 2 weeks, its raining, i have hot chocolate and i'm eradicating the greenskins with franz
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>>158283438
Source on that image?
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>>158283936
You didnt save the replay?
I guess screenshots would be the next best thing.
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>>158283856

Very good, but you NEED to use them as a hammer, they can't serve as frontline troops because they will melt way too quick despite not breaking.

They deal amazing damage so if you use them right they will put in a lot of work, especially considering their cost.
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>>158283512
It makes sense, so I hope.

It would add a bit of diversity to the badlands
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Belegar Ironhammer.
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>>158282314
>where the skaven be?

In the fairy tales mate
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>>158284046
London
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>>158284232
I don't understand.
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>>158276739
Source?
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>>158284338
Degenerate Tales - 'Adventures of fucking useless NEETS' or 'how to waste precious oxygen of people that are actually worth something'
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>>158284519
>spends time on 4chan posting video games
>I-I'm worth something!
/b/ tier.
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>>158284519
>'how to waste precious oxygen of people that are actually worth something'

Hey that's my biography
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>>158284613
You're not a waste to me anon :3
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>>158284064
belagor and his heroes scale the walls first while rangers target the big uns on the walls

rest of the army is safe from any missile attacks by staying out of the towers line of sight
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>>158284705
after the rangers and belagor take out the big uns and black orcs two units of warriors scale the walls to clear the rest of the goblins out

meanwhile the miners breach the gate
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>>158284776
coming down form the walls the thane and engineer fail to take out the lord as hammerers move in the help finish off the rest of the goblins the dragonfire pass warriors didn't kill
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>>158284865
after the walls and gate have been cleared and the lord finally dead the rest of the army moves in along with the grudge thrower
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>>158284865
Peak Gate Guard - Karak Norn Hammerer regiment who protect said gate. (8th ed Dwarf army book, "Hammerers")

Norgrimling's Ironbreakers - The Norgrimlings are a clan of dwarfs who originated from the lower levels of Karak Eight Peaks, now
scattered all over Karaz Ankor, they still tend to the lower levels, and most of them aim to become Ironbreakers or Irondrakes. (ibid, "Legendary Clans"

The Old Grumblers - Name taken from a Longbeards special rule (ibid, "Longbeards")

Ulthuar's Rangers - Mentionned as a notable group of Rangers, nothing is stated other than that they are "grim survivalists, known for the trail of Goblin heads they leave on stakes near Karak Eight Peaks" (ibid, "Rangers"

Gob Lobber - "Perhaps most famous of all was the 'Gob-lobber', a legendary catapult which drove off a great many greenskin attacks during the Goblin Wars - although this was more down to the crew's use of live gobbo ammunition rather than pure accuracy" (ibid, "Dwarf Artillery - Grudge Thrower")

Skyhammer - The "Skyhammers" are a famous flying formation from Zhufbar (ibid, "Gyrobomber")

Skolder Guard - I don't know.

Dragonback Slayers - I don't think there are any specific references to these guys in the rulebook, but the Dragonback mountains (where Ekrund is located) fell to the Greenskins back during the Time of Woes. Gav thorpe wrote a novel about it, these and the next two units may draw their names from it.

Warriors of Dragonfire Pass - See above

Ekrund Miners - See above
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>>158284946
the army blocks the chockpoint and the grudge thrower starts targeting units in the middle

meanwhile rangers are on the other side keeping goblin units occupied and slayers have flanked round and caught the spider on it's own
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>Turn 41
>Beastmemes have long since died
>Carcassonne ate Estalia for no reason
>Empire a mess, Mannlet has eaten Averland
>Skarsnik supporting four stacks from one settlement
>Still haven't left my woods
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>>158285012
Do you know why the province "Desolation of Nagash" is called like that? What did he do there? Is he the cause of the green mist?
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>>158285040
after the slayers lose the fight the rest of the goblins converge into the chockpoint
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>>158285093
Are you telling us you're not going to leaf at all?
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>>158285123
soon after the spider routs the goblins so follow
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>>158285209
gobboz are brave and never run away delet this
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>>158285337

Not even goblins think goblins are brave. The fuck are you smoking?
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>>158284552
I'm posting from work, obviously I'm worth something! 0 is still something ;_;
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>>158285475
You're not wrong, mathematically speaking 0 and 'doesn't exist' are different.
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>>158285475

>People with jobs are never degenerates

I have some British television executives I'd like to introduce you to.
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>>158285093
>Wood Elves providing nothing to the world
You're 'playing' them the right way, friend
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>>158285559
You don't get to singlesidedly make the call of what is and is not degenerate.
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>>158285521
thanks, that was kinda nice!

>>158285559
>British television executives
that sounds horrible
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>>158285609

Yeah I do.
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>>158285665
t. degenerate
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>>158285117
http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Nagashizzar

It's the area surrounding Nagash' hometurf.
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>>158285665
ARE YOU A GOD
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>>158285726
Thanks.

The fortress of Nagashizzar is not on the campaign map though, right?
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>>158284338
pls it looks interesting
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>>158285868
Nope.
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if you lose a regiment of reknown is it lost forever?
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>>158282571
eatin
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>>158286281
No you can just recruit it again from a region you control
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Okay so, I'm thinking about making my own mod to fix how fucking boring the WoC campaign is, mostly by altering LL's, Lords and Heroes and adjusting some building mechanics.

First off, I was thinking about having Chaos Lords and Sorcerer Lords have more different skill trees, having each focus on different troops in the roster. Chaos Lords would be more about Warriors, Chosen, Knights, Chariots, the more conventional troops. Sorcerer Lords would focus more on monsters and Forsaken.

Secondly, are WoC powerful enough to warrant having to deal with the horde attrition? I feel like the horde attrition is one of the main things that fucks everything up, cause you can't protect new stacks from getting sniped by the AI's sending everything they got against it, plus it makes you incredibly reliant on Lightning Strike.
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>>158285573
Wood Elves provide a sublime model of leisure and independence from wageslavery, anon

They are the apotheosis of the NEET ideal
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>>158286351
P R E P
T H E
O G R E
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>>158286656
If there was a way to mod it out after you defeat big bird that would probably be the way to go, but I don't think you can do that.
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is the volley fire tech for rangers bugged?
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>>158286857
Hmm...There might actually be another solution. You know those obligatory tech tree unlockers that you have to pay for to unlock? How about each one of those granted an increasing amount of attrition resistance, until its at 100% when you pay for the final one?
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>>158286656
>>158286857
You can actually mod horde infighting out, there's a few mods on the workshop that do just that
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>>158286281
every turn they have a low 15% chance to replensih
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Mod to disable victory points when?
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>>158286968
I know, but the question is if thats really the best solution. Would an attrition-free WoC be too powerful on the campaign map?
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Belegar Ironhammer
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>>158287113

Pretty certain one already exists.
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>>158286656
>First off, I was thinking about having Chaos Lords and Sorcerer Lords have more different skill trees
Editing skill trees is a wild fucking ride, if you are going to go through that trouble, why not go all out and make an interesting and involving skill tree?

>Secondly, are WoC powerful enough to warrant having to deal with the horde attrition?
Yes, the money barrier is much looser in the campaign, and unit per unit, Chaos get the unarguable best infantry, longest-range artillery and top-tier monsters and cavalry
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>>158286895

Yes and here's a temp fix

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=785267679
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>be Huebald of Frogland
>sit in your comfy Carcassonne Castle
>get your shit raided by Beastmen while your neighbor Estalia got destroyed in the first 15 turns
>turn 70
>he still sits in his fucking castle having done absolutely nothing 72 turns later

why is the AI so fucking stupid, it's the same with Tilea and Border Penises. Tilea is down to 1 settlement I believe, in which they've been garrisoned in with a full 20 man stack since turn 1, Border shits lost 2 of their settlements but they're taking them back now thank fuck

this fucking chaos corruption is a big pain the fucking ass
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>>158287235
Well I couldnt find one.
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>>158287452
Have you seen what Carcassone looks like?
I wouldn't move either
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>>158287452
why the fuck are you even over there
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>>158287514
yes anon but I doubt it would look like that with 62% chaos corruption
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>>158287514
look comfy tbqh familia.
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>>158287548
the lady protects
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>>158287548

>he doesn't attend his lawn
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>>158287452

>AI Beastmen being in any way effectual

I don't believe it.
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>>158287547
I built a small second army to deal with a Brettonian grudge, it had like 17 severity or something so I had to deal with it

badlands looks like a WW1 battlefield, Barak Varr is going nuts, Greenskins all over the place scattered about, ruined settlements and no-mans land here and there. love it. It's weird cause most campaigns I played, it ends up with either greenskins dominating everything or dwarf AI confederating with everyone and steamrolling through
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>>158287452
>sitting in comfy castle
>hold a feast every day with chicken tendies and fine wine
>get to fuck fresh virgin pussy every day because I'm the king
>some manlet 'miring my luxurious lifestyle from his filthy cave
Manlets, when will they learn?
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>>158287180
BegForCum iPodmemer
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>>158287452
To be fair, Athel Loren is right there. Huebald is obviously a student of the masters when it comes to doing nothing in your comfy dwelling.
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STUFF
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>>158287994
Talk about OP as fuck.

Also 4 Legendary items? Is he gonna out melee Grimgor?
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>>158287994
Starts right in Silver Peaks, so he's literally just easymode for an already easy faction
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>>158287994
>15% movement speed
Holy shit

>no fear
How is this fair

>-15% recruit
>recruit with three chevrons already
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>>158288071
Doesnt seem as OP as Vlad.
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>>158287994
B
A
S
E
D W A R F S
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>>158287994

Gotta say his model looks pretty sweet
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>>158288181
Vlad melt when fighting Franz.
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>>158288257
You sure? Even with quest items and skilled for melee? When I played with him he even beat Archaon in single combat.
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Alright, my White Dwarf has arrived so here we go.

GROMBRINDAL

The back of the code says it expires January 3rd, so I guess that's when he's free.

Anyone want the 20% off Total Warhammer voucher?
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>>158282571
slaving
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>>158288257
No he doesnt. Vlad is a great duelist.

And I was talking about his bonuses.
Vanguard deployment is OP, 150exp every turn is better than 3 chevrons, recruitment cost doesnt matter in the long run. The only OP thing he has is 15% movement but even then you will not catch a marching army without slowing it down with an agent.
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>>158288585

Wait, yours has arrived already? I pre-ordered when it was available and it will ship on the 28th.
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>"WAR OF VENGEANCE!"
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>>158288585

u fukken wot, I though it wouldn't be available before the 28th?
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>>158288739

He looks slightly deranged. I love it.
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>>158288726
>>158288795
Mine arrived early, they must have started shipping already.

>>158288817
>slightly
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>>158288891

You know what you gotta do senpai, show us his juicy info.
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How would you rate the latest DLC /twg/?

Also, is there a list of the new units/lords that where added?
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>>158288971
I'll post his skill line when I've won this battle.
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>>158288987
8/10 best DLC for now.
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>>158288389
Everyone does, Balthasar Gelt pimp smacked him in my empire campaign.
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>>158288987

>How would you rate the latest DLC /twg/?

Easily better than the last lord pack, I would probably even rate it better than Beastmen simply because of how much they charged for Beastmen and how utterly garbage the mini-campaign was.

>Also, is there a list of the new units/lords that where added?

Right on the Steam page, remember to grab Wurrzag, he has a separate Steam page.
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>>158289070

How is his VA? he sounded very guttural in his show off video.
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>>158289246
He sounds like a Drunkan lunatic.
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>>158289193
u wot? Gelt can't beat anyone in single combat, except maybe Kemmler. It doesn't count if any other unit interferes you know...
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You know the V shaped spell of the celestial wizard?

Turns out it doesn't suck dick like most V shaped spells and I got 300 kills with 1 overcast
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>>158289306
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>>158289473

Is he a propper killy lord in combat? Can you show his stats? HP armour and the like.
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>>158289449
But most cones don't suck when you overcast them, they're among the most useful damage spells when you line them up perfectly. It's just bombardment and vortexes that suck.
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Hand over the Electors Boris
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>>158289070

Show stats and price
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>>158289473
Here's the first half of his Skill Tree.
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>>158289573

Screencap the unique skills and items pls
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>>158289550
forced as fuck
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>>158289573

>500 weapon strenght from the get go
>Magical and armour piercing.

Yeah rip.
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>>158289573
>this manlet gets 4 quest chains
>Skarsnik gets one
Motherfuckers.
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>>158289573
Second half.

Fully Kitted out in Custom Battles he's 2569 gold.

I'll see what his unlock requirements are next.

>>158289626
Sure.
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>>158289627
Yes, he is going to FORCE Boris to hand over the Elector counts
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>>158289573

>Those fucking stats

He's literally a beefed up Grimgor
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>>158289573
>500 (FIVE HUNDRED) weapon strength

KAZUKAN KAZUKIT-HA
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>>158289670

What's the price in custom battle?

This is important
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orcs are useless for skarsnik if you have all the buffs for goblins, amirite?
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>>158289573
Muh fucking dick
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>>158289774

Skarsnik works best with a gobbo army with some heavy hitters on the side, spiders n giants and all that. Sure technically a full black orc army would be better. But it'd be absurdly priced compared to it.
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>>158289714
>>158289695
Even with damage skills that's nothing compared to Grimgor's 800+ with maxed damage.
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>>158289774

Right, just get goblin spears
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>>158289836
But with based Dawi leadership and all his quest items he should smash Grimmy
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>>158289550
>Not "The electors, Frahnz"

Very good effort though
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>>158289836

Not in multiplayer, Grimgor has a lot less leadership, 50 less weapon damage, no magic attacks, 10 less armor, 5 lesse MD.

All Grimgor has going for him is 20 extra charge
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>>158289881

Wonder how he will compare to Belegar, who's a crazy lord/hero killer.
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Unlock requirements.

Next I'll collect all his unique skills and items.

>>158289762
>Fully Kitted out in Custom Battles he's 2569 gold.

Like I already posted. Sorry If i'm misreading you. I might jump into some multiplayer with him and surprise the opponents.
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>>158289881
I'm not so sure about that.

>>158289906
>multiplayer
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>>158289573

>Weapon Strength bar completely filled out

Major kek
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>>158289946

>Getting more will just go past the bar.

It would be silly, but I'd love it.
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>>158289935
>Only playing so you can bait the AI and color the map

I guess we can't all be True Understanders
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>>158289931
Could you tell us his starting units?
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someone's selling the Grombrindal code?
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>>158290046
It's just that TWW has boring multiplayer compared to S2, so I can't be bothered. It's too much meme vs. meme.
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>>158290151
When your enemy didn't bring five giants or 19 squigs or some other complete meme it can be fun, though

It is of course true CA abandoned the mp compared to the support they gave S2, but I doubt we'll ever see that again
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>>158289931
I think this is most of them, the last three down the right are only rank 1, but can be upgraded from +1 to +3 for the first two, and -% to -15% for the last.

>>158290132
Miners with blasting charges, Gyrocopters and Irondrakes.
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>>158290412

>Time of the ancestors

Found out what this is yet? Awesome work by the way.
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>>158290356
I've had some matches that were really fun, but it's just too much bother to find them. One of the most entertaining parts for me is posturing, feinting, skirmishing and positioning before much fighting actually takes place, and that doesn't seem to happen much in Warhammer because of single-purpose meme armies. I still have hope that they'll overhaul MP with one of the next expansions though.
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>>158290498
>>158290412
Here is the event. With effects imposed over the frame.
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>>158290615
Jesus fucking christ
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>>158290615

I can dig it, it does seem amazingly broken though.
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>>158290615

Oh lawdy.
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>>158290615
OP AS FUCK
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>>158290615
OP as fuck shit hero.
GW probably hoping to get a lot of WD sales.
>GW in charge of non-jewing
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>>158290615
So if you get Grombrindal's Fury he's gonna have 650 weapon strength without any skills?
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>>158290781

Yes, yes he does.

Armour piercing, magical, weapon strenght.
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Where were you when the Dawi were confirmed as the greatest faction of all time?
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>>158290781
Have fun. Thank fuck most of this is campaign only. Anyone want me to post more of his custom battle stuff?
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how do i play vampires early and late game
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>>158290816
GRUDGES MUST BE SETTLED
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>>158290816
I wonder if he can beat Grimgol in Wep strength when fully skilled and decked.
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>>158290615

We need that comic where Grimgor ignores every single ranged attack made against him, and then slaughters an army on his own. But then with Grombrindal
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>>158290615
>>158290412
He's going to be fun to take to Chaos Wastes for Chaos Removal purposes if you get Paramour of Valaya
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>>158290849
Oh, also this.
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>>158290849

>Anyone want me to post more of his custom battle stuff?

Ye
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>>158290615
>>158290412
Well, I'm glad he's just a regular dwarf LL with no unique faction, starting position or victory objective.
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>>158290950

What is the Legendary Comerce skill you see in >>158289573 ?
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>>158290950
Poor Urks.
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>>158290950

>Map-wide unbreakable
>MAP
>WIDE
>UNBREAKABLE
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Alright lads another day another failure. I tested the siege glitch in custom battles as an anon said yesterday and basically I think it's the city of Akendorf that is bugged.
basically the towers won't fire and the gates are uncontrolled so I can't sally forth. Anyone know a way to fix this since I'll lose my entire army to Dorf fucking shits on legendary difficulty if the towers don't work.
Tried a siege with the same amounts of Units in Altdorf and the towers worked fine there
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>>158290615
Well shit, I think I know who I'm gonna play my legendary campaign with now.
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>>158291058

GRUDGES

WILL

BE

SETTLED
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>>158291049
Poor Gobbo.
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What are some crucial tips for beastmen?
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>>158291017
+20% trade income.
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Here is his Custom Battle profile.

Abilities he can select are Foe-Seeker, Deadly Onslaught, Flash Bomb and Grombrindal Has No Fear (Map wide Unbreakable).

His Items are a bit more limited, only having access to the Rune Helm of Zhufbar and the Rune Axe of Grombrindal.

Also notice in >>158290615 the Dwarf symbol next to the Grudge bar? That tells you which bonus you have selected for him.
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>>158291550

Pit him up against Belegar in a 1v1, see who wins.

You may have to controll belegar yourself to use his unique skill at the right time.
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>>158291550

>He actually gets the map-wide unbreakable buff in multiplayer

CA YOU ABSOLUTE MADMEN!
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BM on sale when?
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Here are his Quest Battle locations. I'll post each one in tow.

If I'm allowed to give my opinion here without sounding like a shill. . This guy seems like one of the most fun LLs in both battle and campaign play. So many quests and interesting abilities and mechanics.

I honestly can't believe he's free.
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>>158291736
Summer 2017
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it's settled then, grombrindal is officially our guy
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Chaos might suck dick but at least they have style
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>>158291917
So if I play a dwarf campaign I can get the three normal legendary heroes, and confederate belegar for 4 dick kicking armies?
*sighs* Guess I'm playing dwarfs.
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>>158283384

I laughed
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>>158291917
can you post the quest battle overview from 'custom game' like in the rolling chart >>158280967 so I can add him to it
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Really makes you think, huh?
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Rune Axe of Grombrindal
Location: Norsca, The Golden Dick of Chaos.
Dwarfs vs. Hellfire Legion of Asavar Deathcaller.

Simple battle between two stacks of Marauders and Chaos Warriors.

Grombrindal got hit hard by their two handed axe and nearly died, but I noticed how you can send shit units like Miners ahead into their lines then pop his unbreakable ability to have them fight on for ages while you pelt them with missile and arty. I'm guessing that might be a future multiplayer strategy.
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>>158292724
don't reveal the battles you cunt
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>>158292779
fuck off, everybody wanna know but you
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>>158292779
Sure thing.
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>>158292779
Nobody's forcing you to read it faggot.
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>>158292814
>>158292868
>wanting spoilers

gass yourselves
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>>158293031
>spoilers
This isn't a fucking plotline, there's nothing to spoil. Why are you even here if you can't handle discussion on incoming content?
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>>158293147
>>158292814
>/twg/ scrubs want to know wich armies they'll be facing in quest battles so they dont get suprised and btfoed by AI
Why am I not surprised?
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I'll spoiler them.


Cloak of Valaya
Location: The Underway North of the Dwarf Capital.
Dwarfs vs. Horrors of the Night.

The Undead bring a typical shitty army of skeletons and zombies, but after the lines clash you get swamped by a rear flank of terrorghiests and bats that arrive suddenly. Take out the Vampire lord and direct your arty at behind you.

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>>158289931
>Monument of Grimnir

Well, at least he's hard as fuck to unlock unless you start as him.
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>>158293274
You know you can see the enemy army composition before the battle, right?
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>>158293392
you know you don't see the reinforcing armies composition before the battle, right?
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>>158293392
You know you cant retreat if you teleport to quest battle, right?
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>>158293358
Also Skaven reference.
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>>158290615
This is so broken it isn't even funny.

>>158291917
>As Gotrek previously warned

OH FUCK CONFIRMED.
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>>158293392
can't see reinforcements though
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>>158280967
rolling
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>>158293463
Like it matters, there's always reinforcements, so you prepare for that. He didn't even reveal the specifics in the post.

>>158293469
And? Do you build your army specifically for a single battle? Anyone with a brain has an army that can handle anything.
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>>158293480
lol CONFIRMED
*teleports behind you*
Rats to the rear and upvotes to the left xD
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>>158292705
this triggered me
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>>158293727
>le reddit rats meme
lel so fanny and original XDDDD
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>>158292705
I don't get it, why would the skaven be confirmed by this?
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>>158293480
pls >>158292704
I dunno when I'll get him to do it myself ;_;
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>>158289573
>maximum weapon strenght
>magic + armour piercing
>>
I kinda wanted to go out on friday and get a code but now that I see the fucker is broken as fuck I am not going to bother. I just hope the AI doesn't start recruiting him
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Rune Helm of Zhufbar.
Location: Under-Ostermark
Dwarfs and Zhufbar vs. the Greenskins.

This questline heavily involves Gotrek, which may serve as a hint for future content.

Another battle in the underway. Grommy's speech very nails into place how Scottish he is compared to the other lords.

The plot of the battle involves fighting to the Zhufbar army before they are swarmed. Deploy your arty in the centre, since Squids, arachnaroks and giants are going to appear right at your sides. This battle is proper difficult, and depends on how lucky the Zhufbar get before a second stack appears and finishes them off. It might be best to only support Zhufbar with arty and let them die so you get a bunch of injured enemies charging at you, but I still lost.


>>158293959
Alright, give me a sec.
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>>158280967
Fug let's Lee
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>>158293959
Is having him selected ok? I don't know if the brightest messes up the uniformity.
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>>158293650
>Anyone with a brain
So pretty much 10% of /twg/.
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>>158294292
not selected if you get the chance, but thanks!
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>>158280967
First time rolling, please be gentle...
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>>158294338
I used to think that most people here were good, but with all the bitching about Skarsnik and Belegar recently I'm suddenly inclined to agree.
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>>158294456
>Kemmler
ya dun goofed
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>>158294456
Fuck that, I aint playing Kemmler.
Gimme something good!
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>>158294553

KEMMLER WAS WEAK.

WITNESS TRUE POWER
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>>158294156
So if Gotrek is heavily involved, would he and Felix be Empire lords or some kind of legendary hero couple?
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>>158293523
>>158294156

>mfw Gotrek probably wont be as OP as Grombrindal
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>>158294553
>Mannlet
Dude, just give me someone NOT from the VC faction.
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>>158294663

Three times in a row.

Time to play as the Counts bitch.
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>>158294456
>>158294553
>>158294663
kek, you can't make this shit up
enjoy you stinking undead anon!
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>>158291383
>you can easily win ambush battles in about 10 seconds
>if enemy doomstacks come within range, teleport away or go invisible
>one of the buildings give you -50% upkeep to all your units in the horde (at a small cost of growth)
>when in doubt, minotaurs
>Malagor a shit

captcha: road road
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>>158294456
>>158294553
>>158294663
well done lad
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>>158294663
>Vlad
Ok ok, if you gimme Ghorst next - I will submit to your will, or Great One, and play the Vamps.
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>>158294663
Just accept it.
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>>158294456
>>158294553
>>158294663
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>>158294817
kek
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Man, once you conquer k8p Angrund is kinda boring. It suffers the same problem that when Archaon arrives you won't really get to fight him.
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Armour of Glimril Scales.
Location: Marbad's Tomb, Bretonnia.
Dwarfs vs. Horde of the Apocalypse and the Doombringers Warherd.

You play the Marbads Tomb battle from Gelt's quest sidways, deploying in one of the forests to the side while Chaos deploys in the other, meaning a very clear battlefield centre with lots of stealthy areas and hills where you and they are.

The Big twist here is that all the shitty beastmen you fight are all immune to Psychology, plus 6 units of Beastmen Chaos Spawn that arrive behind you.

This was definitely one of the easier battles I fought, Rout the main army and snipe the dragon before the spawn arrive and you're set. I don't think I lost a single unit.


>>158294446
I live to serve.
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>>158294446
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>>158295352
you're the best, anon!
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>>158294979
>doesn't march up north and kick Archaons ass as soon as he dares to show his face outside the chaos wastes
wew lad
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When is bombadil going to be released for the plebs?
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>>158295645
apparently on January
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>>158295645

If you get the white dwarf or walk into a Games workshop. This friday. If too poor for the white dwarf or too anxious for the latter. Somewhere come january
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>>158295875
>>158295768
I read somewhere that at a later date in 2017
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>>158295875
Hopefully lots of neckbeards that don't play games will sell their codes on the internet.
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>>158295946

The code expires in January as mentioned here
>>158288585

So it's safe to assume that's when he becomes free for the public, or atleast soon after
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please please pleae can some1 try a siege battle in custom battles. Akendorf as defender and see if the towers are firing?
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>>158283213
look up kelstr in the workshop. he has some nice recolor mods
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>>158296114

Sure, just give me a moment.
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>>158295994
>begging to buy something that will be free a month later
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>>158296114

Rank 1 towers work fine
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>>158296502
okay thanks. Fuck I tried every rank.
Could you try it as empire (you) as defenders and Dwarfs as attackers?
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>>158296547

Will do.
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I get that Grombindal is supposed to be a big fucking deal, but is making him that ridiculously overpowered in campaign a good idea? Is the AI going to recruit him and smash your fucking face in?
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>>158296719
how else are they gonna be selling them magazines?
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>>158280967
Roll
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>>158296547

I fucked up, I read Altdorf, not Akendorf.

On Akendorf they dont seem to fire no, not even an indicator wether or not you control the towers.
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>>158296637
thanks man!
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>>158280967
>>158295352
thanks again, now I've finished my work until the next dlc!
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>>158296871
>On Akendorf they dont seem to fire no
Ok then it's not just me then! good to know. How do you contact CA about this?

>not even an indicator wether or not you control the towers.
exactly!
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>>158297001

Easiest way is through twitter. As it's quite active and responds to tons of people.

If that fails, try the CA forums.
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>>158296952
You were asked numerous times to switch Archaon and Sigvald and lose the (-69) bullshit.
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>>158296952

Thanks Chart-Bro. Also Rollan.
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>>158297060
fuck I'm actually thinking of getting a twitter just to notify them of this.
Do I need an acount to post on CA's forums?
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>>158296114
I tried and level 3 didn't fire, but I have some mods. Have you disabled yours? Maybe time to file a bug report and wait until it's fixed.

>>158296441
I'm impatient.
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>>158297218
>Have you disabled yours?
yes all are disabled

>>158297218
>and wait until it's fixed.
exactly. This will fuck my entire legendary campaign so I literally can't continue it until it's fixed. I need to win this battle and I won't without the towers and beng able to go out through the gate
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>>158297063
next time, but I'm gonna change it, don't worry!!
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So why are there only 2 savage orc tribes and 3 beastmen herds anyway? It feels like there should be a savage orc tribe operating in Bretonnia too, there are supposed to be a lot of orcs there but right now it's just empty.
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>>158296719
If you're the orcs or skaven and you let the dwarfs live long enough to recruit him then you deserve the beating you'll get
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>>158295232
That line is fucking memeworthy.
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>>158297063
>>158297462
I quite like that little fun bit.
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I am going to hope that the independent store near me will have steam codes. If they do, I'll try to get a couple for the rest of you.
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>>158298083
thanks friend
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>>158298083
That would be mighty nice of you m8.

The nearest store for me is 2 hours away
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>>158295232
Damn Grombrindal talks some heavy shit.
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>>158298083
I doubt it, given the wording of the steam page, but you're welcome to try.
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>>158298391
>>158297910
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>CA wants me to have an interaction with people from a GW shop
fuck you I'll buy your shitty mag instead
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>trying to raze karak izor
>red horn tribe standing right in the way
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>>158298656
Kill them?

The random beastmen spawned armies in this game are a fucking joke lol
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>>158298713
It would be more fun for clan angrund to deal with them

The mutinous gits are right behind them, apparently they prefer to raid angrund lands rather than go north to my area
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This is the final Wurrzag quest map
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>>158298879
>Underground
>but there are pine trees
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>>158296952
ayy
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>>158298879
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>>158299187
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>>158298589
>GW shop staff are so reviled that people would rather spend money than talk to them to get a thing for free
I fucking love this.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_9qkAC4b5c

Didn't they blatantly lie about the AI here?
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>>158280428

Today, I will make us all remember our belowed Gook. May he be yellow wherever he is. May he never recieve Glenns' fate.
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>>158284258

Fallen London. Lots of stories.
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>>158299357
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>>158299672
Ah, is it good?
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>>158298589
>willingly paying 12$ for a Lord with no unique faction, startpos or win condition
>a lord that will be free in a month
Good goy!
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>>158296952
rolling
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>>158299773
Do you like good world building, 0 actual gameplay, and lots of reading?
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>>158299953
Not at all.
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>>158300056
Then no. Faggot.
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>>158299907
>in a month
>officially released on friday
>doesn't become free until sometime in January
>28th of October to sometime in January is a month
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BULL CENTAURS WHEN?
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>>158300120
>>158299907
It's free no matter what. I don't get how you're paying for Grombrindal, unless you buy White Dwarf just for him.
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>>158300348
That's what the guy said. He wants to buy the magazine just for Grom.
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>>158300149
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>>158300467
That's retarded.
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>>158299773

Alternatively, while you are a faggot for not liking reading, you could play Sunless Sea, which is in the same setting. Has gameplay, stuff to do, still reading and fun storylines.

You're a fag, so you will prolly not enjoy it, but the suggestion stands.
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>>158299907
>12$
if you order it from their online store it's 19$ due to shipping
and that's before tax
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>>158300729
>>158300093
You really like the word fag. It almost feels like projection.
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>>158289550
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>>158300798
I'm sorry man but that's 2 people calling you a fag. not 1.
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>>158290615
I guess what bugs me most about this is Achaon doesn't get an event like this if you use him in campaign.

Oh well, maybe we they do a big rebalancing for him later with either the big Chaos expansion. Until then, he's just there I guess.
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Tomb Kings desu.
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>>158300842
Well ok, apologies for that. Bit weird that wanting gameplay in video games makes me a fag though. You'd think the opposite would be true.
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>>158300729
>Sunless Sea
Thanks for reminding me of that, I need to continue playing it. Never picked it up again after I ran out of fuel from stupidity and starved to death.
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>>158300729
Playing a videogame for the story is like eating soup for the spoon.
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>>158301067

Not really, video games can do stories that can't be done in a movie or a book, making a game primarily to tell a story is completely valid.
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Fuck Surtha Ek and all his piece of shit norscans, I just want to complete this goddam long campaign let me settle this two fucking holds and fuck off.
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>>158280967
ROLLLLLLAN
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>>158280967
Rolling
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>>158280967
Okay.
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>>158301417
DAWI
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>>158301016

I picked it up again recently. I had the same issue before. I was completely shit, for whatever reason. It's not even that hard, you just gotta pace yourself and be gradual about it. Get them port reports, that's free fuel. Pursue one quest at the time, if you pick it up. Spend first few hours just exploring the various islands, etc.
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>>158300889
>>
>honest steel trait give +12/+12 attack and defence to spearmen, swordsmen, halberdiers AND free company

by smegmar that is pretty fucking bonkers. I'm destroying entire factions with a 1300 upkeep army.
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>>158301601
Yeah I know. It's just so tempting to chase that thing that you just maybe can get to for a big payoff.
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so anyone able to get codes? All the stores near me dont have any till friday
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H O B G O B L I N S
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>>158301771
Red buffs are really underrated. I don't know why it's not considered mandatory for non-LLs that won't have many elite units.
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>>158300149

Hopefully never.

What a shit design...
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>>158301921
t. Ravandil Greyleaf
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>>158301779

I did the Snow Child today. Fucked myself over utterly. I was so certain I could do it, but my map man, it was fucked up. Khanate was in the middle, with fucking Sheperd's isle between it and London. Clayman island, Coral islands, etc that is usually in the middle was far East, along with Palmerston. That fucking Fortress of Ice? That was like next to Codex. Weird fucking map.

I ended up running out of gas almost home. I sacrificed stuff to gods for more gas, but cheeky fucks just repaired my hull back to 200. Then I did Stone, who dragged me back east to his little island. There I exchanged my last few stories for a teleport to London, but my very good chance of luck did not take and I left my bones there.
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>>158302014
>Ravandil

You know how it goes. Either you pay with some grass, or with your ass.
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>>158300149
Soon
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>>158302160
Listen chine before I start usin' me city slickers
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so news about the next DLC?
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>158301720
>>158300889

just play VC they are pretty the same
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>>158302412
It's been less than a week since the last one, nothing will happen for about a month at least
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>>158302160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydgY5fskwjE&t=0s
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>>158281579
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How do I change the camera angle on the main campaign? I notice that for whatever reason it seems to shift direction without me asking over time and it's pretty annoying.
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>>158302505
This is b8
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>>158302602
q and e
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>>158302561
I bet Sigvald would be godlike.
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Are Bugman's Rangers just improved versions of regular Rangers?
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>>158302885
I'm a bit confused over them

they've got lower damage but regenerate
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>>158302832
I wouldn't count on it m8
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>>158302885
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>>158303982
>quarrellers have 25 speed
is that right? i thought the slowest units had 28 speed
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>>158303705
The regenerate also only triggers when they're wavering? Seems kind of pointless imo.
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>>158304181
they stop regenerating when they're wavering
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>>158304181
No it stops when they are wavering. they regen at the same rate as ghouls and crypt horrors
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>>158304159
The slowest Dwarf units have 23 speed.
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>>158303982
Are great weapon rangers worth it then?
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>my province is getting raided by my own waagh
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>>158304470
they're flank monsters
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>>158304278
Ahhhh, I had read it wrong.
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Why do the jewtube comments on that Bombadil vid say he's gonna be free in 2017?
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>>158304572
Because he's gonna be free in 2017?
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>>158304159
>>158304339
ah i was right. longs beards and iron breakers have 26 speed, rangers have 34 speed. you msut be using some shit mod
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>>158304470
Yes, but they are not a ranged unit like quarrelers/rangers but rather a skirmisher/flanker.
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>>158303982
Wait do Great Weapon Rangers really do double missile damage with armour piercing?
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>>158303853
This thing is garbo.
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>>158304718
and less then half ammo. so. yes?
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>>158304610
Oh yeah, you're right. Using the Proper Combat mod that slows everything down.

>>158304718
Yes, but check the range and ammo.
They hurl throwing axes.
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>>158304774
Half range half ammo, but double damage and armour piercing. I'll have to think on this. But that is alot of damage.
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>>158304897
it's short range axes you fool
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>>158305421
So? That kind of damage is shitting on Black Orcs tier. Having a couple could be really nice.
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Is Grombrindal worth going out of the house?
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>>158305528

Yes.

Just look at his ancestor thingy at >>158290615
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>>158305528
he aint out until friday unless you are lucky, if you are get some extra codes for us muh mang
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Why does Karl hit so damn hard?

His stats are nothing special but he slaps around every other hero
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>have to incite a war with kislev in order to complete volkmar's quest
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>>158306106
Something about the duellist trait makes him bitchslap other lords around the place, especially when on deathclaw
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I really wanna play beasties but dont want to pay extra for a shitty mini-campaign.
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>chase down Belegar's stunty ass down
>game crashes on loading screen after I win the battle
>reload, autoresolve because I don't feel like replaying the same battle
>close victory, most of his man survive
>next time we fight same shit happenes
>cheating git makes the game crash on me

Anyone else having problem with game crashing on loading screens? It's annoying as hell especially after long battles.
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>tfw your lord nearly dies for you
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>>158281496
Damn I wish people would write shit like this here more often when people ask a question. Normally it's: ">paying for games" "cuck"
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is it normal that skarskinks gobo upkeep reduction is disabled in a co op campaign?
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>>158306268
I was having frequent crashes and slowdowns because total war would only use one of my cpu cores sometimes. I had to set my core's maximum usage to 99% down form 100% to fix it. computer doesnt sound like a wind turbine anymore either
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>dwarfs with map wide unbreakable buff

Top fucking Kek

Grombrindal is the ultimate "fuck you" pick
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>>158306116
Can't you get an alt.-objective if you wait until they die or something?
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>>158306514
Sounds like something I would like to try. How do you do that?
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>>158306569
It doesn't last very long, and it's one time use.
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Verdict on rangers and bolt throwers?

Worth using?


When to take bolt throwers over grudge throwers, and rangers over quarellers?
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>>158307071
bolts are okish for giants and spiders but thats about it, rangers are good but very different from standard dwarf playstyle
>>
So lets get this straight,

Grombrindal:
-Has stats competitive with Grimgor
-Gives his entire faction 15% campaign movement speed
-Increases recruitment rank of all units factionwide by +3, and can reduce recruitment cost factionwide by 15%
-Can give all units mapwide unbreakable for 33 seconds, and has a flashbang that reduces enemy leadership
-Has a special snowflake campaign mechanic that gives himself or his units massive stat boosts or boosts technology research rate by 20%
-Gets 4 quest items

Meanwhile Thorgrim gives his units like +8 melee attack or something and ungrim gets +10 bonus vs large
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>>158306994
Still super useful in the moment where who chain-routes is important.
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>>158307369
> please buy our mags/figures

Whatd u expect man its GW
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>>158307071
Bolt throwers are mostly useful early on for being cheap, or if you want to take on flyers (they're really good for that). Rangers are good, it's often worth sacrificing some ammo for that mobility or for vanguarding together with miners.
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>>158307071
Quarralers are great because theyre basically dwarf warriors, but rangers are faster and more effective at flanking. There are several ranger-centric perks/buffs that lead to first waves of most greenskin armies i face almost entirely routing

If you miss with a bolt thrower, it doesnt blow up your dudes
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>this battlefield is too loud
>i wish i was home carving runes
>tfw no anvil of doom
>my head hurts
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>>158307071
Basic Rangers are worse than Quarrels outside of Belegar's army and his perks.
Great weapon rangers are pretty good flankers/skirmishers if you want to spice up your usual boring dwarf gameplay.

Bolt Thrower looks good on paper but is pretty shit against anything that's smaller than a giant/arachnarok/varghulf and is completely outclassed by cannons.
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>>158308129
What about bugman rangers?
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Well, it took me 115 turns, but Skarsnik is FINALLY laying siege to the Eight Peaks.
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>>158308191
Slightly better rangers but still not worth their upkeep.
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This sexual predator slaps your throng's ass

what do you do
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How is a Belegar playthrough done on Legendary? I have no fucking money for anything.
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>>158308129
Bolt-throwers are completely okay for their price. It's good to have a cheaper version of cannons, and they're especially useful to punish flanking cav or air units. But even against infantry they mostly pull their weight as long as you target the right ones.
>>
i'm about to download Lorehammer mod collection, tell me why i shouldn't
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>>158308309

Send Belegar his way.
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S K A R S N I K
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>>158308275
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>>158308367
Probably by min-maxing everything, exploiting the AI, and having a bit of luck. I doubt it's a good candidate for a legendary campaign if you haven't completed all the easier ones.
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What Faction do i choose in my new attila campaign lads?
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>>158308391
>cheaper version of cannons
But unlike the cannon - bolt thrower's projectile isnt piercing and thus completely useless, because the first model in a unit it hits soaks all the damage.
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>>158308367

You have two enemies willing to commit to you, Skarsnik and the gits.

Get in good standing with surrounding nations, take over your province and get some trade going (The +diplomacy research helps out early on). And send the first wave of gits packing back home. Should be easy since they crossed half the world for you and their fightiness meter should be empty and their units weakened.

Next head up North with a 20 stack, even with the +50% this should be affordable, take out Skarsnik and make sure the area is happy enough to not rebel without an army camping in it.

From here stabalize a bit, and either meet the next stack of Gits head on or wait for them to enter your lands so you can regen before making the journey to the 8 peaks. Take a nearby settlement to have a base of operations. And get ready to attack the gits in their hold.

Clear any recruiting army that's there, heal up and besiege them, dont attack as they should sally forth, it'll be a hard battle, but winnable. congrats, you now have the eight peaks.
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>>158308719
That's why you use it against high hp-units. The accuracy, damage and rof makes them perform well against cav (who you have a small window to fire at) as well as small unit like black orcs, in addition to the obvious use against monsters. You can't expect them to be just as good as cannons for significantly cheaper though.
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>coop campaign as clan ungor
>ally is dwarves
>my face when they take Karak 8 peaks before me because it's in their fucking backyard
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>>158299907

Tbf m8, I kinda want to flip through a White Dwarf magazine.
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>>158308605
Legendary WRE :^)

or cuck the world with Aksum
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>>158309131

That's a grudging lad, you know what to do.
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>>158308605
The uninstall.exe faction.
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>>158309131
Sounds like a grudge to me
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>>158309131
Why didn't you just say you needed it?
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>>158280468
I have 20% off if anybody wants it
I know your meant to give them to friends
but I dont have any
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>>158310283
ill be your friend if you get me some white dwarf keys :D
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>>158310337
I redeemed Grombrindal
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>>158310283
Doing it wrong lad. You're supposed to make people whore out their internet-friendship for the code and make them play games with you.
>>
>playing as belegar
>defeated crooked moon
>for some reason I have -5 order in all holds from "events"

WHAT FUCKING EVENTS? There are no events I can find that would be causing this.
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>>158311000
Use your ghosts to bump public order, Belegar gets -public order until he gets the Karak.
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>>158311000
Are you blind?
Not having k8p gives you -5 order.
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>>158311138
That is not the case for Belegar, he gets +50% upkeep from not having his mountain
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>>158310568
where you live? my local stores dont have codes or the book and the codes should be free
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>>158298879
>>158298879
>>158298879
>>158298879
>>158298879

Dammit i really really really wish there were more underground battlemaps that aren't the underway straight line corridors.
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>>158311138
>>158311418
Nevermind I see now, it's in the text of the grudge itself but doesn't show up outside of that
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>>158306262
Buy it
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>>158299521
;__;
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Damnit, I want to be able to hold off on deploying vanguard units in underway maps, and then getting the option to deploy them from a map edge during the actual fight.
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>>158299521
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Neat
Didn´t know this could happen
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>>158306262
DO IT
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>osprey poster is gone
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>>158312990
>Gook is gone
>Osprey shitposter is gone
>shitty memes are gone
>post yfw
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>>158312990
>wish we could turn back time, to the good old days...
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>can't stop playing MP

I told myself it was shit bros, you told me it was shit.

Sometimes you get cheese tactics like 20 trebuchets but that's rare.
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>>158313363
Doth thou knowst how the world endeth?
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>>158313448
Don't worry, you'll soon grow tired of it after you start seeing shit repeat itself.
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>>158312990
>>158313363
>>158313414

Did people actually dislike osprey posting? I loved those books and seeing the pages on here was fun
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>>158313689
It was offtopic and thus didnt belong in /twg/.
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What do you guys think of the Bolt Thrower?

I like its armour piercing and all that, but I really think its rate of fire should be upped.
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Is tomorrow the day?
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>>158313935
We used to have great history discussions back when there were only history games. Never really got the feeling that people found them off topic. Huh.
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>>158313935
Fuck your shit
/vg/ has always been one of the most off-topic of boards and 4chan in general has never enforced hard-and-fast rules on what is and is not off-topic until the entire community was calling for blood
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>>158314069
It's useful. Nothing amazing, but it's unreasonable to expect more from such a cheap unit.
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>>158313935
Osprey is on-topic, always and on all boards.
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>>158296719
KAZUKHAN KAZUKHIT HA
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Mods to make a Chaos playthrough fun? Which lord?
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>>158296719

Every dwarf can die even Alejandro
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At least the AI Dwarfs won't be destroyed straight away by the AI Greenskins in campaign anymore thanks to Grombrindal.
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>>158315134
If you want to have all the lords start with Sigvald, because awakening tribes is a waste of time. Otherwise both Archaon and Kholek are viable. Knowing how to manage hordes goes a long way towards making it fun, otherwise you can boost growth and/or replenishment I guess. Also, hordes are not for everyone it seems.
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>>158315423
dorfs win 9/10 badlandbowls tho
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>>158315453
How is Sigvald? He's one of my favorite Chaos lords but seems pretty shitty with how slow he is. I just get tired of fighting Chaos marauders for 100 turns
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>>158315134
Sigvald is probably one of the worst lords in the game, Archaon is pretty good though and Kholek is probably one of the best beatstick LL's in the game.
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>>158315626
he's good, but needs his quest items, also, prone to getting knocked

also, +growth is a godsend
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>>158315626
With his items he's good at dueling shit, and pretty survivable, other than that Archaon and Kholek is better. Also, fighting marauders for 100 turns is doing it wrong. Knock out Kraka Drak and Varg, then make friends with Skaeling, that's all you need.
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>>158306262
RAROOO
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Since people are talking about Chaos right now

how would you go about fixing the shitty horde mechanics for them?

Best answer I have is making the +horde growth skills apply empire wide instead of just to the one horde. At least that way you could make a new horde late in game and make them viable quicker.

That, or making the army provide horde growth in some way. Like marauders give +.2 horde growth, Chaos Warriors give +.5 horde growth, and Chosen give +1 horde growth, so that when you make a new horde and supply them from the first group they have increased growth speed.
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>>158316058
You're supposed to switch lords with +growth into the new horde, you know that right?
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>>158316260
How do you switch lords?
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>>158316058
make encampments actually replenish your troops, there, fixed I guess...
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>>158316058
chaos is one of the few factions we have where a fightiness meter would be preferable to what we have right now

being rewarded for fighting as opposed to hiding in the wastes like a bitch and micromanaging lords whilst raiding for xp makes their campaign fucking abysmal

but it isn't really either of those two things that make the campaign truly awful, it's how shit the faction is that makes them awful, once that climactic fight with franz comes you can't actually win without hellcannon cheese because all your units besides it are ass and instead the campaign is waiting to shank him when he's alone because you can't take them in a fight, or any faction really

this moreso than anything turns the campaign into hiding and running
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>>158316446
Bottom right in the details screen where you chose items and shit. There's a cooldown of a few turns after a lord is switched out before he can be assigned to a new ones, but you just use a temporary lvl. 1lord in the meantime.

>>158316536
That would be solved by fixing the bug/design-error where corruption only boosts replenishment in allied territory.
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So has anyone played an empire campaign since the update?

Can't start one right now myself and just wondering how much harder/more interesting it is with Skarnsik right next to your starting position.
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>>158316536
we have mods you know, use them for gods sake
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>>158286351
get off the computer gornak elfeater
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>>158316608
You cant hide either, well you could flee to chaos lands and make everyone die of attrition but they usually find you wherever you are.
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>>158291151
DELET THIS
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>>158292254
Just like gays irl
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>>158316608
>because all your units besides it are ass
>because you can't take them in a fight, or any faction really
What are you even doing?! Chosen, shaggots and shit tear up enemies even on VH battle difficulty. 3:1 odds are nothing. Git fucking gud.
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>>158315134
Hordes are fun, if you don't like them then there isn't anything that can be done for you. The only annoying part is that when you awaken tribes they spend all their time dicking around unless you subjugate them and even then they can break the subjugation and waste more of your time. Overall the Chaos mechanics are misleading.

>>158315453
Awakening tribes isn't a waste of time, it's easy XP for your starting lord and easy gold to speed along the construction of a better army. The XP lets you rush the growth traits which speeds up the process of building your army. Then you can go south with non-shit units.
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My issue with chaos is that if you spend the time to awaken the tribes, some random spawning skulltaker stack is going to declare war on you, and all your vassals that love you will just bail and declare war. So suddenly the entire North is at war with you and the last 70 turns were fucking pointless because the diplomacy system is shit.
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>people whining about grombrindal being overpowered

Nah, Grom, Vlad et al are great and I love their stronk as shit gimmicks. What really annoys me is how shitty all the base lords are in comparison now.

10% off some shitty unit you'll never really use
5% to campaign map movement

Trash, boring trash.

Hell even if they can't go back and make older lords more interesting at least fix or put out of their misery Gelt and Kemmler.
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>>158317532
It's a waste of time. Taking Varg and Kraka Drak is plenty. Skaeling should be left alone so they can support your invasion asap. This provides sufficient money and exp for two hordes of LL + Warriors + some better units. Only Baersonlings should be awakened early on for replenishment. Any money after that you get from invading your objectives.
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>>158316058
Awakening tribes is billed as a primary chaos mechanic but it does absolutely nothing. That should be fixed, how fucking hard is it for CA to make them your permanent servants who aren't allowed to fight each other? Why is just the "release nation" mechanic with a different name? It's stupid and lazy.
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>>158317652
And it's basically a "literally why" question. How the fuck did/does CA not realize this is a massive flaw? Chaos essentially has no real unique mechanics that are useful as a result of all the flaws and bugs in their design. They need a major fix.
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I have literally no idea what I'm doing, first playthrough

Know nothing of warhammer lore

So I took the whole starting province, where next? the goblin dudes south of here are the only ones red, i'm bros with most of the other humans, dwarves look angry, there's a quest - do i need to do it?
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>>158317764
What they should probably do is give the LL spellcasters with loremaster some improved spells with stronger effects, even if that isn't how it was represented in the tabletop.
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>>158287452
>huebald
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>>158318338
>london
you fuggen wot
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>>158318438
PLEASE
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>>158318438
It's his capital, it's only logical if he's a bong.
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>>158318338
>London
>Gelt
AAAAAAAAAA

go south and remove goblins, and see those "Marienburg" shits over there? they will backstab you
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>messing around with diplomacy
>what's a confederation? i think i saw something about the emperor being recruitable if I do that
>try it, oh huh they accepted
>oh god shits on fire
>oh god war everywhere
>oh god help what do i do
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>>158318818
>oh god war everywhere
consider that as your first step to learning about warhammer
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>>158318818
>those nice borders
I'm jelly. If only the game could stay like that all the time...

Who's or what is "Calle", and why is the legacy captcha obsessed with it/him/her?
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>>158318818
by all means keep posting, newbie mistakes are good fun,

by confederating you get ownership of another faction's territories and their armies (of course the AI cheats hard, so you are just getting some new territories and Greece-tier debts), a faction will only accept confederation if you are on very good terms, or they are on the brink of collapse

we all have been through that
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>try quest
>they get two armies
>my second army cant reinforce despite being close enough to sniff their hairy hammer balls

this is bullshit i want my cannons
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>>158319390
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>>158280967
rollan
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>>158319547
Swap out some of your shitty spearmen quick.
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>>158311649
unimportant I get it delivered to my door
I subbed wh visions because I didnt think a weekly wd was worth it
a weekly pamphlet on the weeks new releases
but visions got canned when wd went monthly so they gave me a free sub to that instead
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>>158298943
it's about time
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>>158319390
is he attempting pushups?
that's some shit form
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>>158320542
What where you expected from a """""professional streamer"""""?
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>>158320542
His buddy isn't that bad, he actually has existing biceps.
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>>158320861
his buddy is the one I'm talking about.
I figured the one with the headset was about to puke from all that fried food and dipping sauce
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>>158321153
What do you mean anon? Enraged Pedro can't afford junk food, those poor unfortunate youtubers :(
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>>158321153
if you would know then, what's he doing wrong?
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>>158321153
I assume that's just resting stance, and not actually mid-pushups. Needs video to actually judge.
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>>158321289
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>>158321294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh00_rniF8E
ass is way up in the air, but >>158321343 makes a good point
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I love to gobbo.
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Do Chaos get events for the Chaos invasion like any other faction would?
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>bumbling around
>move my army near people
>they move their army away
>the mere sight of my bunch of peasents makes them ask for peace
>everyone wants peace
>everyone wants trade

this is certainly a new total war experience for me
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>>158322080
No.
captcha: Black Isle. F ;_;
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DONT WANNA LEAVE
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Who wins 1v1 between Grimgor and Grombrindal?
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I'm getting drunk. Please ignore my shitposting later tonight if I chose this place to start shit. I'll go somewhere else if nobody responds.
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So how's my army comp?

There... doesn't seem to be much unit variety here, either that or I've not unlocked many buildings
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>>158323880
Decent early composition, later you'll want more artillery and Greatswords, especially when Chaos comes
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>>158323880
It's decent. Lose the pistoliers and replace with more outriders though, pistoliers are useless.You can't expect much unit variety at turn 17 though, and that applies to all TW games.
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As Empire, should I bother having a shielded unit specifically for catching missile fire? I just got done with a Dwarf campaign and I liked having a shielded infantry line.
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How to make Gelt not shit: Remove his current garbage campaign effects, give him shit that directly applies to him being a god tier wizard.

Supreme Patriarch
>Unable to Miscast, 25% Cooldown Reduction, All Spell Effects (AoE, range, damage) Increased by 50%
>+5 rank to recruited battle wizards (faction wide)
>All armies begin battles with a base WoM of at least 10, gambling can't reduce it below this.
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Gelt would be cool if by default his spells were overcast versions, and could be super-overcast or some shit. As it stand lore of metal is garbage, thus Gelt is garbage.
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>>158318678
what am I looking at?
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Why is Skarsnik so rude?
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>>158325023
Shielded spearmen attack faster so they're mostly superior to unshielded. Other than that you'll mostly have missile superiority as Empire, so shields aren't mandatory, although useful.
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>goblins

jesus christ those guys where awful in battle
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>>158325848
They need the red skills to not be fodder, but with those skills they're incredibly cost-effective.
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Crooked Moon > Vampire Counts > Empire > Clan Angrund > Greenskins > Dwarfs > Beastmen > Chaos

Ranked from most fun to least fun.
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>>158325836

What candle?

What did he mean by this???
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f-fuck
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>>158326091
>Vampire cunts
>fun
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>>158327526
VC are plenty of fun. You don't even have to give a shit about recruitment buildings, you just throw endless zombies at the enemies and then raise elite armies in one turn.
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how's my diplomatic game going?

made a series of buffer states around my southern borders, going to go move north after this

fuck me fielding armies is expensive in this game, i've got one big stack and 2 small ones, but the enemy always seems to have about 2 full stacks
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>create a waagh
>they raid my settlement

Thanks lads
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Just bought shogun 2 and I fucking such as at the battles. If I auto resolve I cam win just fine but if I do it myself I fuck it up everytime. Is it supposed to be this hard or am I just terrible? Also how the fuck do you get lineman to kneel down and then fire, the back lines just stand there and wait to get mowed down.
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>>158327864
>Crooked Moon still alive

You trying to make friends with the gobbos or something? Hoping the gobbos got some shortstack women that they just don't let others see or something? You got some sort of gobbo fetish, Franz?
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>>158283157
Can dominate muh dick, for sure
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>>158327864
Eh, it's decent, but you can do better. As for armies you're supposed to fight significantly better than the AI, so they kinda have to have more armies to pose a challenge.
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>>158327991
you mean matchlocks? they have an ability that does that.
also you just need practice to get better
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So guys, I finally got it...

7 hours estimated download...

FUCKING SHIT BADGER CUNT!
Well, I guess I'll read my codexes while I wait..
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>>158327976
Kill them
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>>158328802
What armies you play on tt senpai
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>DLC01 Chaos
Meh
>DLC02 Blood & Gore
muh teen rating
>DLC03 Beastmen
Borderline disappointing
>DLC04 Grim & Grave
Quite excellent
>DLC06 King & Warlord
Literally bravo

Does this mean Wood Elves will be fucking mind blowingly good? Or will it be unable to live up to the glory that has been the past 2 LL packs?
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>move in reinforcement army to help my main army defend ally
>fucking goblins out of nowhere
>giant stack, 0% auto battle

so, I got lucky with the battle ground, what do if they don't advance?
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>>158329213
Raise them
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>>158329514
Well rumors are beastmen will get some more units when woodelves launch, if so then fixing one faction and adding an awesome faction in could make the dlc fuckin great.
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holy shit what the fuck is this spider thing
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>>158327976
Send them on a mission to an army or a settlement. They're just keeping their fightiness up because you're not giving them anything to fight.
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>>158329524
You have mortars, they will come.
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>>158329687
That will be priority target number one anon. GL
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>>158329687
Its a giant spider that goblins have built a thriving hamlet on.
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ᴷᶦᶫᶫ ᵗʰᵉᵐ, ʳᵃᶦˢᵉ ᵗʰᵉᵐ⋅
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>>158329514
No, it means that every new faction added to the game will be a disappointment, but unit packs like G&G and K&W will always be excellent.
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>giant spider and trolls rock up
>about 1 second into the fight all my guys go "fuck this" and run away

I mean.. i probably would too , but fuck what the fuck how am I meant to do that fight
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>>158329871
You could say the Goblins turned riding Giant Spiders into a cottage industry
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>>158281496
>wishing for a constructed answer
Cuck
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>>158330156
>>158329687
That is the look of your commander when he sees that spider with those trolls.
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What are some fun army compositions for Beastmemes that doesn't involve Minotaur spam that you guys have played around with?
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>>158330156

Plant high morale/unbreakable guy in front of spider, if not present, a unit with anti large encouraged by a lord.

Make ranged and arty shoot it, tada. Dead/fleeing spider
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for people using a gtx 970 msi(or just a 970 in general) what graphics settings do you play warhammer with?
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>>158330640
Centigors
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>>158330687
i just max it and the game runs fine
I have16gb ram and an i7 4790k
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Leaving crooked moon alive is really useful. Instead of starting stupid wars the elector counts actually get along while all fighting your enemies. It's nice not having to fight humans constantly for once
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>>158329687
Yeah youre not gonna win this one
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>>158296952
Let's roll.
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>>158329687
You just got G O B L I N D
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>>158330640
>dat pic
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>>158329514
All factions will be shit because CA can't foresee how they'll be broken/underpowered and they'll only get bailed out by their new unit packs or new LL's

Betting Tomb Kings will be the bottom barrel of all the new factions until their unit pack, either them or the Skaven. Tomb Kings at their introduction are going to be outclassed by VC and Skaven seem hard to balance unless their oddball units are ridiculously good and not buggy
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>>158326729
>What did he mean by this???

I can't wait for this meme to die.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Fat-Candle/
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If Estalia were made a facion how would they be interesting to play as? Other than all their generals having sexy accents that roll their R's in every sentence?
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>>158332712
quite boring and they'd lose some units compared to empire
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>>158322117
You never experienced total war: benny hill before?
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>>158280967
Rolla
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>>158326091
You and I have the complete opposite in terms of preferences
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>>158329514

Beastmen was only really a poor DLC because of the ludicrous price and the utterly shit mini-campaign.

If it had just been 12-15 bucks for just the faction with maybe one more unit it would have been fine.
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>>158333219
>12-15 bucks for just the faction
7.5 you mean
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>>158333154
>Someone thinks the chaos campaign is the most fun
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>>158333560

That was literally never gonna happen and you know it.
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>>158282314
In the leaks the Skaven are classed as DLC 13

However this DLC is still counted as number 6 in the files while the Wood Elves are apparently still number 5, so to think the DLCs are going in order would be silly

Skaven will probably be the second race pack (after Chaos) and the first race released after the second campaign pack (Wood Elves)

So since Wood Elves are expected for late November or early/mid december the Skaven could come anywhere from December to February

All this is because Skaven are the last race which can be added without expanding the map
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>>158333603
I did not know it

Chaos was 7.5, there is no reason for BM without mini campaign to be also 7.5
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>>158332712
Estalia or Tilea is quite fun to play as with the mod if you have a Pike and Shot fetish like me.
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>>158332669

But its the diplomacy screen, where the the fucking candles Skarsnik!? WHERE ARE THEY!?
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>>158333564
Another anon here; Chaos is actually quite fun if you have lots of horde experience from Attila, and actually like them. Other than that my preferences aren't actually that different from yours.
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>>158332712

Basically a nation of sellswords, cuththroats and bandits.

Or was that Tilea, I can't remember.
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>>158329347
Bretonnia, I am a mounted shit lord. Although, to be honest I haven't played in forever and am at least one or two version behind probably. Gotta say that Total war has got me wanting to go again, though. Got some Pegasus knights I never finished which would be pretty nifty.

Otherwise I was toying with Tomb Kings, got the codex but no models.

>76%
CMON!
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So I finally got Stainless Steel and am having my first M2TW campaign in years. By Jesus this is perfection.
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>>158333689

>Chaos was 7.5, there is no reason for BM without mini campaign to be also 7.5

Except for the part where Chaos was already part finished as an unplayable AI faction by the time CA convinced Sega to hand over the funds to make them playable.

And the part where putting out an expensive DLC at release would have been extremely bad PR.

And the part where it doesn't make any fucking sense for CA to charge the same for a faction that actually required work to make as they did for 3 factions that were just the same shit with recolored hats in Attila/RomeII

Chaos was always going to be in the base game at release in some form, when you buy it you're essentially only paying for the additions that were made to make them playable.

>inb4 skeptical slavic chicken
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GOBBOZ RULE
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>>158334024
BORRA ESTO
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>>158334203
They are both faction DLC

That tells enough that they should be priced evenly, without the mini campaign of course
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>>158280907
Athel Loren can fit three cities if it is sparsely settled and six cities if they decide to make it as dense as sylvania

From this map we can see the elven capital will be in the southernmost area of the forest, so it will be closest to the pass on the map near Grimhold

What do you think the other 2-5 cities would be? Maybe the Wildwood would be a city right at the entrance to the forest, hostile to everyone.
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>>158334335

>That tells enough that they should be priced evenly

It doesn't though.

You can't just pretend reality doesn't exist and that there aren't a whole fuckton of reasons why it makes sense for Chaos to cost less.
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>>158334370

Wood Elf mini campaign (A Leaf for a Leaf)
Wood Elves are a horde faction in Grand Campaign
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>>158334063
>Otherwise I was toying with Tomb Kings, got the codex but no models.

>He doesn't know.
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>>158281496
>whining about food and sanitation

Cuck
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>>158334423
They are both faction DLCs so they should be priced evenly

I cant accept any other reasoning
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>>158334579

>I cant accept any other reasoning

That's too bad for you I suppose.
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>>158334494
They'd be a horde faction in the minicampaign too then

desu none of those are really "cities" in the normal sense so if they used something half the size of the Bretonnian castles shaped like a tree for the wood elf cities they could easily fit six in that forest, especially if only wood elves could settle in wood elf cities.

However from the map there versus the map in game they could easily expand Athel Loren. In game Quenelles is actually pretty far from the edge of the forest.
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Lets make a new rule

You can only post in this thread if you have beaten a K&W campaign on atleast Hard difficulty (altho those who beaten it on hard will be looked down)
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>>158335319
I beat it on normal, still posting. Whatcha gonna do about it fag?
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>>158335491
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>>158335491

Crashing this plane...


WITH NO SURVIVORS
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>>158335319
I'm currently playing on Very Hard/Very Hard. Can I still post?
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>>158335319
Going by the posts this year, that's not a large percentage of /twg/.
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>>158335703

You are chill

>>158335491

Get out or else...
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>>158327976

DEN STOP MUCKIN' ABOUT U LAZY GIT
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>>158335319
what if I play VH/N?
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Lets make a new rule

You can only post in this thread if you also play Warhammer Geheimnisnacht
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>>158335703

>Gitter
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>>158330957
>i7 4790k
hmm that might be why I hear my fan go turbo when ever I launch Warhammer. it also takes noticeable longer to load games when it at max settings. right now I just make due with medium building, texture, and unit detail and low everything except unit sizes which is ultra.

Have a i7-3770K btw
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>>158335319

>mfw I'm still posting here and I haven't even played an entire campaign yet

DEVILISH
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Are the Warhammer books good?
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>>158336315
Uz got something ta say, ya git?
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>>158336421

SOMEBODY LOCK ME UP
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>>158336501

>year of gork (or possibly mork)
>callin ya warbosses "git"

I seriously 'ope you gits don't do dis
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>>158336486
Skarsnik is.
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>>158336376
The difference between CPU-generations for games isn't very large outside of power use. Install custom cooling (stock fans suck) and overclock, and most OC-able Intel CPUs (currently k-versions) will last for 5-years minimum at good settings. As for loading, that's dependent on the hard drive. SSD is what's required for low loading times these days.
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>>158299521
Why did you have to make me feel these feels today anon?
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Are Bjornling supposed to spawn in multiplayer? I have never seen them during co-op.
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>>158337453
They have to be be awakened or rebel.
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>>158337579
I'm just talking like

I'm empire, friend is dwarf, chaos invasion mk 2 happens and we never get the southern front.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding.
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>>158337956
Oh, those. I don't know. As far as I know they should spawn, but maybe they don't for some reason.
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How good are Ranger units?
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>>158338780
Right now due to a bug, kinda trash.
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>>158338780
Decent. They offer extra options and with Belegars skills they're very good.

>>158339002
There's a mod for that until it's fixed you know.
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>Hey lads, i think staying here was mistake!
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>>158280967

i actually never go through with these anyways
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>>158280967
I'll reroll if it's Dwarf/angrund/empire
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>>158340289
Have you no honour?! Khazrak now! I expect campaign updates in the next thread.
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Why is Vlad the best Vampire Count?
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>>158334721
>making a serious reply to a memepost
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I hate confederations in this game tbqhwyf
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>>158287452
I'm pretty sure the Southern Realms are almost guaranteed to generate with the Passive trait. They're perfectly happy to chill out in their own provinces.
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>>158341067
That's how you keep the memers on their toes desu, then once in a while you make an apparently serious post that's actually a meta-meme.
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>>158280967
reroll if empire
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>>158341270
y
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>>158341270
>not licking your lips as you swallow another subnation diplomatically
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>>158341424
Makes the game too easy if I use it, but if I don't use it, the AI still will and I'll be at a clear disadvantage where they shove 6 full armies down my throat.
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>>158341270
Why? In my Angrund game the main dwarfs and me have divided stuff perfectly between us while having a military alliance. It's a perfect arrangement, I get to focus only on the parts I want, and I have a powerful faction to help me with more armies than I can afford myself.
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rolled vampire counts, having some trouble here. I've basically taken Sylvania, Ostmark, and most of the Empirelands besides the Empire and Tablecaland. Msot of my adversaries are humans, with teh Southern Princes being dickheads right now, whats a decent army setup and how do you build your provinces? Itypically will try to have one province be the "military" prtovince around 2 or 3 others that I try to devote solely to corruption/growth/income but I seem to be capped at gettign 4.5K a turn which is hampering my armies.
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>>158341274
>tfw one of them gets the Aggressive trait
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First time playing orcs with Wurrzag, the battles are hilarious as I maxed out the red skills. The cheap as shit savage orcs have like 80 charge. Generally I fight by just running my army into theirs and they break really fast.

Is this how orcs normally play? If so I am on board.
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>>158340861
Because Mannifred is an autist and Kimmler would rather serve Chaos.

I guess Ghorst is ok
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>>158342431
That's mostly how Beastmen play, but Orcs come in to a close second. Prepare for a nasty surprise against Ironbreakers or others that don't break fast though.
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I swear the minor faction AI is just fucking hard coded to fail.

As Dwarves I've been keeping Barak Var and Karak Azul from falling, supporting them how I can.

Yet for some fucking reason Azul went on a Walkabout all over the Badlands. Which was no problem because the Bloody Hand were gettin pretty big. But they completely neglected to defend their home turf, or any territory they claimed, and the Red Fangs, Greenskins, and Crooked Moon Gits have claimed bits and pieces of their turf.

Barak Var is acting somewhat less retarded, but in the early game they just couldn't hold fucking shit.

I think Belegor has finally come to the Badlands, but I see some random Urki tribe is attacking his home province now too, and I'm pretty sure Skarsnik is alive.

At least the Empire seems to be doing real well for themselves, and has a fuckton of land and is fighting the VC
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>>158342847
It's more about starting provinces. Barak Varr is in a bad position, and thus they fail a lot, but I've seen Karak Azul succeed and blob pretty frequently.
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>>158342847
My experience is that its pretty random. For instance, when I played as dorfs Barak Var took all of badlands and were as big as me sending stuntie crusades to the north or kicking VC teeths.
Ofc with some minor help from me but still.
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>>158342847
It really depends but sadly what really kills the AI is that it has to fight it's battles using the auto resolve.

So as soon as one of them gets a proper steam roll stack going it can just destroy the other factions.
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>>158345498
Yea, the auto-resolve can fuck over the AI pretty bad. Especially against Chaos I've seen the AI lose what I could have won easily, the same applies against GS to some degree as well.
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>>158342754
Beastmen get way too many campaign stat buffs

I tried playing them in custom battle and my units broke instantly and sucked ass
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>>158346456
Try more minotaurs. Semi-memeing aside, they're not bad at all, they just require different strategies.
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>>158344052
>>158342847

It really is random

In my current campaign as Belegar, Averland took over all of Slyvannia, the Vampire Counts went and conquered Middenland and Kislev conquered so much they're now neighbours with Altdorf
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>>158346456
Maybe that's because you're shit.

-Gorbull, Beastlord, and Khazrak with huge leadership abilities
-get so many Gorebulls and Minotaurs
- your choice of shaman with free manticore or cygor
-tasty GW centigors
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Wood Elves better have some sort of cool campaign objectives

If they're just supposed to go around and raze everything the horde faction memes might as well be true
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>>158347550
The problem is as a faction they really don't have an end game. All they do is fuck with people who enter their forest, occassionally save Karl Franz, and try to stop the forest from consuming the world.

I don't really know how you turn that into a playable objective. Have some kind of anti-corruption mechanic?
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>>158280428
MEDIEVAL KINGDOMS CAMPAIGN WHEN
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>>158349075
Why do I love Basileios Bulgaroktonos so much?
It's pretty simple when I think about it.
Basil II isn't just the best basileus of the Macedonian dynasty, he might just be the best basileus of all time.
Just imaging him riding through the streets of Constantinople, The wind in his hair, his mighty tagmata following him.
As he rides through Moesia, the bulgars blind themselves at his very scent.

The very nature of Basil is mystery.
Could he be playing a deeper game than even Christ Pantocrator realizes?
the answer is yes, he has transcended such boundaries as the written world, and he is free to do whatever he sees fit.
However, Basil is filled with such valor, such wisdom that he does not even use these powers.
Why, you might ask? You will never know, for the mind of Basil is not one that is easily penetrated.
Basil is not only beyond comprehension for us, he exists within a plane of true rhoman valor and wisdom.

Observe his hearty laugh, his full beard, his gallant nose, and most importantly, his eyes.
His eyes, like pools of water, provide the only glimpse into the true machinations of Basil. Do not stare into them. Many brave men have lost theirs in the attempt.
Basil is not just an emperor, a forgotten piece of history, he himself is the binding that holds Rhomania together.
Without Basil, the Basileia ton Rhomaion as we knows it crumbles.
No bulgars or saracens would be slain without Basil and Constantinople would become a desolate crater without his iron fist.
These are just a few of the reasons why I like Basil so much.

Yes I know he was well before Medieval Kingdoms' timeframe
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>>158349075
The day after Butterlord.
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See, it is shit like this that caused Skarsnik to declare war on the Greenskins instead of confederating with them. Grimgor would start saying that Gork > Mork and he would think that he was the boss or something.
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Getting into warhams again, what's the /twg/ recommended mods?

Also, I last played like a week after release, is magic still fucked on ultra sizes?
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>>158347876
>>158347550
Wood Elves are already winning the campaign when it begins, because they live in a tranquil paradise. They need a special soundtrack that makes the player relaxed and comfortable as he stays in the woods for the duration of the campaign.

Maybe abducting little Bretonnian children as an agent action?
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>>158351205
Get fucked elfnigger I hope Archaon and Khazrak and Shadow Grimgor all start in Athel Loren and fuck your pampered pooper every night
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I know Skarsnik can't recruit regular orcs at first, but can he recruit Trolls/giants?
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Jesus Averland what did you do?
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Grimgor is brave, I'll give him that. After this battle, I'll take a break until tomorrow. Retook Karak Eight Peaks at around 70-ish turns. I'm not going to confederate at all. Skarsnik will conquer all that he can and raid/raze the rest. He will cuck the Old World.
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campaign fucking when
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>>158351760
I swear I've had games where Schwartzhafen went through four or five owners before turn 50.
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>>158351994
When Carthage is ashes
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>You will never be Skarsnik

Why even live?
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Is this general as fanboyish to defend CA as the TW Reddit is?
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>>158352249
Yes.
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>>158352176
runtgit pls go
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>>158351994

Are those new flag models
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>>158352249
Yes
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>>158352249
Yes >:D
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>>158352249
I still don't understand how much they can just blatantly ignore all the crap.
>"Yes, I love to have my wallet raped in exchange for a beta version of the game."
>"Yes, I definitely want to have this experience two more times!"

I actually thought we were gonna have some change when those people started that petition against the chaos warriors debacle, but then, ohp nope, all the will to go on just fucking stopped out of nowhere.

And before you go off on me about whatever autismo crap you're about to spew...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_QK-lcW8a8
NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE.
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>>158352249
nice try Reddit
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>>158352842
>Implying anyone on the TW Reddit isn't a CA Apologist.
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>>158352993
>knowing the majority opinion over on reddit
Isn't it time go to home from your vacation here?
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Best building in the game right here.
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>>158353401
Some nice ad hominem you got there.
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>>158352249
>>158352724
It's almost like people go to the generals and subreddits of games they enjoy playing
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>>158351994
Next year.
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>>158353653
Enjoying a game and kissing a greedy business' ass are mutually exclusive.
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>>158353547
Except it isn't ad hominem you autist. He wasn't making an argument based on your character; he was just talking shit. You really are reddit, using buzzwords without comprehending context in which they are meant to be applied.

>>158352724
Did you copy this out of the youtube comments?
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>>158352724
>I thought we'd have some change when people started that petition

Did you really think that?
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>>158352724
This was a pretty good satire, got a good laugh out of it. Not sure how the other posters didn't see it the way you intended.
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>>158353954
Obviously not. I refuse to believe someone that shares this website with me could type out that last line along with a hungry, hungry hernando video unironically.
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>>158353924
>You're from reddit therefore your opinion is invalid
^The implication
Somehow not ad hominem... U wot?
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>>158353497
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>>158354059
>You're from reddit therefore you should go back
^literally all he said you daft cunt.
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>>158354129
>Implications don't exist in my fantasy world
Fuck off.
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>>158353797
>Company makes content I am interested in
>Am supposed to be mad that I have to pay for it
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>>158354168
Mate you're just digging yourself a deeper hole here. Better luck in your future endeavors.
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>>158353653
>It's almost like people go to the generals and subreddits of games they enjoy playing
Tbh I get the opposite impression from most of the other generals I frequent.
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>>158352724
Base game was great, chaos DLC at least provided for some amusement, and I got it for free anyways.

Beastmen campaign was linear, but I had fun destroying mankind

Last 2 DLC were well made and reasonably priced. My wallet is raped just as badly 3 mornings a week for a caramel latte.
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>>158354185
>let me generalize super hard to make a point.
Except yknow, it's not that fucking simple? The company has turned into a fucking cash-cow and they have been steadily increasing the amount of DLC-AIDS and unpolished releases? Shogun 2 had 2 DLCs, and both were meaningful as fuck and added in entire campaigns worth of factions. The same going for every game before that. But Rome 2 and beyond instead charge you eight fucking dollars to play as factions that, when you compare to the previous titles in the series, should have been in the base game (which I might add costs significantly more than previous titles at launch which had all their respective factions playable at launch.

>>158354428
>implying there's not gonna be a fuckton more DLC for 15 dollars now instead of the 8 dollars that the dlc was before with attila and rome?

We're literally getting less content for more money you fucking retards!
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>>158353497
>The Pillars of Grungni
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>>158354538
Just stop, nothing's going to change and everyone here is too far in the rabbit-hole to want to believe they're making any mistake buying the game.

Just buy it in like two years when it's fully completed (and on sale) and move on.
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>>158354428
>caramel latte
disgusting, literally the easy mode of coffees
enjoy a hard or very hard coffee like a big boy!
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>>158354538
>Except yknow, it's not that fucking simple? The company has turned into a fucking cash-cow and they have been steadily increasing the amount of DLC-AIDS and unpolished releases? Shogun 2 had 2 DLCs, and both were meaningful as fuck and added in entire campaigns worth of factions. The same going for every game before that. But Rome 2 and beyond instead charge you eight fucking dollars to play as factions that, when you compare to the previous titles in the series, should have been in the base game (which I might add costs significantly more than previous titles at launch which had all their respective factions playable at launch.

Nope, they provide continuing support for their games. I do not fault companies for having a profit motive, especially when they are fully owned subsidiaries.

>We're literally getting less content for more money you fucking retards!
Warhammer is completely different than paying 8 dollars to unlock guys with spears faction 6. Its not just horde, romans, and barbarians anymore. I would argue you are getting more.

>>158354684
Its like a little heaven on my tongue
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>>158354538
>Don't you generalize my generalizations!

Also people are free to do what they want with their money. As far as terrible things a person can do, buying slightly over priced DLC isn't that bad.
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>>158354538
I have to agree with this.. I'll gladly pay for DLC that is actually worth being called DLC shit like Age of Charlemagne or FOTS which add entirely new campaigns, factions, etc. to the game.

But there really isn't any reason I should have to buy units to complete a faction's roster as DLC. Shit like rangers, bolt throwers, squigs, flagellents, etc. should already be in the game.

I seriously can't imagine buying Rome and having to buy shit like Praetorian guard or Elephants as a dlc pack.
>>
FRESH

>>158355070
>>158355070
>>158355070
>>158355070
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>>158355047
>Shit like rangers, bolt throwers, squigs, flagellents, etc. should already be in the game.
Why though? I can't think of a single Warhammer game, 40k or fantasy, that has had complete rosters.
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>>158355179
How does that make it okay?
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>>158355179
>whataboutism

Excellent argument.

I can't wait until they release a second TW Attila with the Huns as $10 DLC
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>>158356000
>weasleword and hyperbole

You're not one to talk.
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>>158356056
>ad hominem
You're both arguing in circles.
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>25 (TWENTY FIVE) days since the 30th
>AE STILL NOT RELEASED
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>kill Skarsnik and wipe out his army
>Mutinous Gits beeline across the world and have to go to defend because Izor's defenses are a barrel of dicks
>meanwhile it rebels because I have to bait the Gits with an ambush and they start raiding
>kill the rebels
>go up, kill Skarsnik who has now pulled a full stack out of his ass again
>mutinous git stack coming

This shit never stops
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>>158330640
I think most of their roster is viable, except Razorgors, chariots and anything with Lore of the Wild.
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