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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>Participate in the current /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/sBJjhw7f

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

Last Thread
>>157707447
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Why do demons in SMT1 talk about Devil Busters all the time but I've never met a Devil Buster?
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>>157828947
You are the devil buster
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>>157829269
The only one?
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>>157829310
doubt it

sounds like a title for someone who hunts demons
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We need more gay horses
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Help me, /smtg/.
I've spent the last 4 hours making spooky skeletons.
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That demon market dlc seems broken as hell, and the Macca grinding dlc gives out even better items than in IV
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>>157830837
if gun pleroma is a thing doesn't that make phy pleroma here useless?
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>>157832051
>gun pleroma is a thing
GOD DAMN IT

BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD
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Bros what's the best SMT game?

I think P4 Golden?
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>>157832269
I'm not your bro, pal.
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>>157832197
lel
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Macca Beam.
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>>157832269
Dancing All Night.
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>tfw no console SMT ever again

Why even live
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>>157832269
>best SMT game?

DAN clearly
anybody who says otherwise has shit taste
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>>157832197
It's ok mate i'm shit at fusing too. I never know what abilities to pass down.
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>>157832468
Can I play as adachi?
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>>157832585
Yes, for one song and one song only
he's $5 dlc
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>>157832484
Well at least I got to test the waters with this current White Rider
Gonna git rid of his electric attacks when I re-fuse him since I can just use Odin for that shit.

I'm at least happy with my Pale and Red Rider at the moment.
Still need to make a proper Black.
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>>157832625
This upsets me.
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>>157832729
and DAN dlc never goes on sale
trust me, I've checked it like a hawk
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>>157832289
Why you don't like SMT? Personally I think Atlus did a really good job by taking the series in an anime direction.
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>>157832425
>>157832468
Yeah it's pretty good. Rise looks so hot here.

DAN has the best gameplay out of all the SMTs imo. Arena comes close though.
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At some point the joke stopped being a joke
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>>157833018
It became reality. DUN DUN DUN.
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I read somewhere that Twisted Tokyo equip drops start at the 3rd cycle. I just beat David 10 times in TT2 and haven't gotten a single Stradivari. Did they mean TT3? Fucking finding mantles of any monster is easier than this bullshit
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>>157833819
yeah, cycle means kill them all
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>>157833862
But that's stupid. Why didn't they just say TT3 instead of saying 3rd cycle? 3rd cycle implies TT2
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>>157833862
So you're saying you have to go through and kill everyone 3 times before equipment starts dropping?

Fuck that.
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>>157833975
>>157834010

forgot for a moment that TT=/=TT1

maybe anon just has the worst luck
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>>157828947
You fight against another demon trainer as a boss in 1.
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>>157832269
SMT4A has among the best polished gameplay.
SMT2 has best story.
SJ has the best mix of gameplay and atmosphere.
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>>157830837
>>157832051
>>157832197
kek
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>>157834535
Updated SMTII with an expanded plot, new characters, more depth, and modern gameplay when?
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>>157834803
SMT2 has plenty of plot, just add some sidequests which would also fill the character thing too.

I would totally buy a remake of SMT1/SMT2 in an instant and hole myself in my room though. I would give Atlus all my shekels and I wouldn't even care if the game was riddled with DLC.
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>>157833819
It drops on TT2

The percentage of the drop is kinda low though
Sometimes I get it on first few tries. Sometimes I need to do million of times, like Mother Harlot
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>>157836706
I've beaten David 20 times and still haven't seen it. Would increasing difficulty affect the drop rates? I could try apocalypse, but I hate compendium inflation.
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>>157837481
I am on War

Its all luck

The faster way is to waste 10 turns and come back again (only 2 floor for David) and kill him in 1-2 turns. You need to gauge how much HP he has left though.
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>>157835026
Plenty is an ambiguous word. It has a bit, but we wouldn't want a repeat of IV where too long happens without any real progression. By modern standards it would really need to be given more depth to reach its full potential. There's no reason for a remake if its going to have marginally better graphics, and the only reason for the shift is the better gameplay. If you want that, just play IVA, skip its cutscenes, and watch IIs cutscenes on youtube. The reason no one translates the ps1 remakes is because they are too similar to matter. If we want a remake, it can't be a port with mild changes. It needs to be a total overhaul. One whose story has so much depth that even someone who played II itself is surprised at some of its plot points, despite them being built around IIs existing plot.

Like IIs endings. Lets be honest. The last cutscenes were dubious at best. the only thing making tis endings tolerable is the cutscenes leading up to it for the last bosses. But lets be honest. Those weren't presented with infinite epicness and depth. Part of thinking they are is taking the idea of them, and imagining their full potential. It would be a waste to make a remake that falls flat since its plot seems too minimalistic for a modern game. It would be a disastrous repeat of IV.

We need expansions on the characters. Expansions on the themes of mysticism. Hell, add in flashbacks like were in soul hackers. And add in something megaten games sorely lack. Scenes with characters who aren't the main character. Like the added scenes in II show, those expositional scenes can be some of the best ones, that provide much better context that is lacked without them. Add in a fanservice scene where you play as hero in I. Add in a scene from before the nukes. Add in a scene where you play as michael fighting lucifer at the beginning of time. Expand the story to like xenosaga involve things that stretch the entire length of history. Expand the japanese gods role. etc.
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>>157837592
Damn, that's genius, why didn't I think of that? I'll do it tomorrow, I'm tired
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Have any of you guys gotten the fiend drops? I'm on my 3rd cycle of TT and have defeated Matador atleast 15 times and he hasn't dropped it yet. Also, what are the best fiend drops?
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>>157838748
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/181823-shin-megami-tensei-iv-apocalypse/74344302/862208375
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Reposting that link of a bunch of screenshots of the new Persona models in P5
mukugames.com/archive/category/ペルソナ5
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>>157839332
Who is that top one?
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>>157839332
>not using the new satan model.

baka
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>>157839332
So satanael is the ultimate persona? Whats his normal one then?
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>>157839332
That ultimate personal also looks like shit.
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>>157838926
Thanks
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how do i beat krishna t. shitter
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>>157840558
Half-demon fuckboi.
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If someone here has it, can he post an image with only the A from Final/Apocalipse logo fully trasparent?

Or is better to sak /wsr/?
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Dagda is P5 protag now.
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>>157828775
It's about time that the OP was finally restored. Not to mention that it looks sleek again.

I'm proud of you, kid.
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COW BUTTE
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>>157841050
Do you have to fuck her metal cow butt instead of the human butt though? That would get old fast.
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>>157839508
late response, but that's satanael, who's supposed to be the protag's ultimate persona (not the best design, i know)

>>157839718
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Ars%C3%A8ne
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>>157841205
Why does his regular persona look like an angel if its just some guy? Until now I assumed that satanel WAS his regular persona.
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>>157841205
It looks like a second form of mastema, but if he got ugly and ended up in a bad cell shaded game that used way too cartoony of art.
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>>157840704
It could be easy to do with photoshop.

Alas, I'm not at home right now.
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>>157820331
This comparison never ceases to amuse me.
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>>157841050
That's a cow? wtf
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How the fuck do you even defeat King Frost? Smile Charge + King Bufula every turn is fucking dumb as shit and everything else you can fuse is weak to Ice god damn
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>>157841532
I would be extremely gratefull
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>>157841669
If you're bad there's a move called Magaon that removes smirk. Angel and Spriggan learn it iirc
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>>157841646
>tfw we were rused all along by the scarfs
>people through isabeau might be chaos due to red
>walter would be law due to blue
>jonathan would be something else

I'm still mildly disappointed.
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>>157841973
>THERE'S 3 PINS
>ANARCHY
>PEACE
AND TRUE NEUTRAL
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>>157841723
I'll give it a try, you'll have to wait a bunch of hours though since I'm just starting the day.
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>>157841726
>if you're bad
No? Unless you're playing on Conflict or easy mode then Magaon is required for King Frost. Or tons of grinding, and if you consider grinding to be required then you're a faggot.

Luckily angel is easily fused at that level.
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>>157842015
>True Neutral
It's Deep Neutral, if you remember the memes from months back. Still not in, sadly.
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>>157842103
Don't get so insulted, I'm just picking on you anon.
>I'm not even that anon
Fine, don't get insulted either way, friendly banter only.

>>157842142
I managed to fuck up everything about that post so disregard me, I suck cocks.
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>>157841973

To be fair their characterization was so over the place that tweaking a few lines would allow Jonathan to be the Chaos rep and Walter to be the Law rep with little issue.
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Did anyone else think the hunter tournaments in IV were fucking stupid? It makes no sense to have one of the few problem solving forces in Tokyo to be killing each other off for fun.
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>Dadga is P5 protag
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>>157839332
>those new 3D models
Oh my. Don't like Satanael much, but Arsene is still top tier. Trumpeter looks odd though, like he's been squashed in a vice.
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>kill your friends boyo
>proceed to become the guy that power through friendship in Persona
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>>157841110
that's not a bustle. her real butt is under the metal cow butt
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So what's the yoshi of dub
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>>157841050
moo
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>>157839332
Wait why the hell can't i open it?
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>>157841973
At least Navarre truly became Slimer.
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>>157842438
I was glad those didn't exist in IV:A. Going back though, it's the shit map in IV that does me in. I'd forgotten there's no legend, at all.

So /smtg, I'm blind and also retarded. These are 3D models, right? Are they animated? Is the Kaneko art now not in the game at all?
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>>157842526
To be fair it's more stop God from creating new world by summoning Lucifer using people of Tokyo cheering for you.
Still Ironic.
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>>157842969
Kaneko himself worked on it as "3D model consultant" or something and a lot of his art is in.
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>>157842323
>guy who loves the peace of his kingdom and bows to preserve it, would somehow want to destroy it
>guy who hates social castes and grew to like freedom would somehow want to preserve this system

I doubt it.
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>>157842969
Status screen models animated. Don't think there are artwork.
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>>157843269
Neat. I'm not upset, they look fantastic if I'm honest. The only one that looks weird is Trumpeter.

>>157843640
>animated
Sweet, I'm hyped. I wonder if being able to choose your skills when you fuse will be in. I played P4 fucking years ago and can't remember if you could choose.
>tfw you can still remember spending hours trying to make the ultimate Thanatos in P3
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>>157842969
Friendship with Kaneko is over.
Soejima is our best friend now.
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>>157843883
>friendship with kaneko over
Only if we're taking our relationship to the next step anon and we're going into a loving committed relationship with him and his demons. Especially the ones based on penises.
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Which Titania is best Titania?

Latex fetish MILF or green dress?

There is a correct answer.
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>>157844750
Blondie Titania? Just liked that design more. Kaneko made that one, right?
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>>157844750
Green dress beauty of course.

>>157844842
He made both.
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>>157844750
The one who knew Oberon is a cheating fuck
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>>157844842
>>157845028

Incorrect. DeSu Titania is the superior girl.
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>>157832269
Persona Q.
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>>157845170
But I thought DeSu (or at least DeSu2) Titania is the blondie?
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Favorite demons. List 'em.
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Wait please elaborate me more on this thing
What is the exact difference between Satanael and regular Satan? I see that they both have multiple wings so is it just an edgier clone?
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>>157843737
You could choose skills in Golden.
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>>157845296
Lime Frost reporting in.
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>>157845257
I meant Summoner.
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>>157845302
Gnosticism.
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What are the requirements to increase the chances of a fusion accident in Apocalypse again?
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>>157845406
Ah. Always thought DeSu was used to refer to the Devil Survivor games.

My preference for blondie Titania still stands.
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>>157845406
You can call it DebiSama as its japanese name!

デビルサマナー: Debiru Samanā
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Anyone got smirk template
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How does Demon Meat taste?
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Dagda got cast as the english voice of the P5 protag.
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>>157845597
Nanashi being sick, foul family demons, demons being sick or dead.
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>>157845302
>>157845480
In the second Book of Enoch, Sataniel is the angel that leads a rebellion against God.

In a certain sect of Gnosticism, Satanael is both demiurge and Satan.

I'm sure there are probably even more uses and interpretations of Satanael in other texts, but as far as he's used in Persona 5 he's obviously supposed to be a stand in for Lucifer.
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Would Persona users survive Tokyo under firmament?
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>>157845959
I suppose you're looking for this. Works best with square pics.
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>>157846309
Not a chance.
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>>157846309
Sure. Unless they aren't a wildcard and something hits their weakness. A Persona protagonist or a party would be fine, I'm sure.
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>>157846151
Fucking picture related.
>>157846309
Possibly. Can use magic themselves as a result of Persona, If wild cards/affinities exists he can swap skills on the fly unlike IV&Nocturne protags, bonds could be stronger if you're with guys in a hellhole, only issue is where would a Velvet room exist, and they may need a COMP also.
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>>157846604
>only issue is where would a Velvet room exist
Maybe Igor could develop a Velvet Room app like Mido did.
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>>157846151
HAHA.

TIME TO KILL MY FRIENDS.
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>>157846604
>only issue is where would a Velvet room exist
Literally wherever. Igor/Philemon/whoever just needs to set up a portal or two for them to use.
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>>157845302
>>157843737
Speaking of P5, I wonder what the severe-level spells for Psy and Frei are called.
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good afternoon, smtg.

today is Toki's Day.
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>>157846834
According to the wiki (so take it with a grain of salt, unofficial translation), Pyschokinesis, Psycho Force, Atomic Flare, and Cosmic Flare.

Also looking that up, apparently Kouha and Eiha are back, which I didn't know about.
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>>157846036
Like rotten pork and coins.
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>>157842234
His atma brand needs to glow in order for this picture to be perfect.
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How do you guys like your Death and Expel skills? Instant kill only? Damage with a chance of instant kill? Damage with Smirk instant kill? Separate damage and ohko skills?
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>>157847336
Just like in DDS.

They're pretty good in IVA, but in DDS Hama doing percentage-based damage and Mudo being a relatively effective insta-kill makes them more unique.
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They are asking me to fuck her right?
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>>157847318
The thing that always bothered me is that, if his bed is next to his secretary, then whenever he sits on his pc he won't have back support and by experience I know lying in bed with a desktop for a long time fucks you up
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>>157848120
>Hasn't heard "Ah Persecute, torment me" yet
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>>157848120
>They are asking me to fuck her right?
Yes, but be gentle.
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>>157848797
My dick is as big as you Pixie, I'm sorry but I can't fuck you.

I'll stick with handholding with Moh Shuvuu and Alice
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>>157849112
She can give you a bodyjob though.
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>>157848797
I don't think I can be gentle with someone who stole my money tho.
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>>157847163
It's time.
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>>157850501
Everytime I see her eyebrows they have a different form
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>>157850615
Doi draws her "eyebrows" so damn weird. The fact that they're so rounded on the top half throws me off whenever I try doodling her.
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>>157850952
I just started looking at her eyebrows and the more I looked the more they seemed like eyes to me.
Sorry /smtg/
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>>157847163
MORE ASAHI
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>>157851281
This is some Alucard sunglasses bullshit right here
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>>157851281
don't badmouth the hime eyebrows

although toki's could be better from being darker.
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>>157852006
Here you go

>>157852130
I love hime eyebrows! I'm just having fun
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>>157852423
>forgot picture

I swear I'll stop doing terribly lazy and awful paint edits soon
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I have decided to do a Blowjob, since you guys just love toki's lips.
but here's the question, nanashi or rook?
I read toki's page to get a better idea at her personality and the whole master thing was pretty cute. I think Nanashi is the best for what I had planned anyway.
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>>157853297
Nanashi or Demi-fiend so you can draw a nice, juicy tattoo'd cock.
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>>157853297
Yeah, Nanashi's the better choice.
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>>157853589
>>157853591
can you guys get me a good reference of the sigil then?
I think there's a better one on the beach dlc. And I can't find it again even with my google fus
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>>157853717
Is this what you want?
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>>157853830
exactly! thank you!
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>>157853901
You're welcome anon, but you should train your google fu.
Literally, "Nanashi Beach" on google images, first result~
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>>157853985
I was looking for smtiva beach dlc and it showed a lot more nozomi and asahi for me... welp, thanks bro
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>>157846309
Given Persona users could use a COMP on top of having a Persona, yeah. Before they got rid of MAG, that was another huge bonus that Persona users had compared to summoners, since they didn't run out of it.
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>>157845302
What's the difference between IVA Satan and the thing Mother Harlot rides?
They're both the same thing, the beast with seven heads and ten horns.
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>>157856025
I'm pretty sure making a contract with a demon and a persona cannot work at the same time.

You either summon personas or demons, not both. There's a reason the universes branched, the personas exist BECAUSE demon's don't exist.

Also Persona fags would end up being sheeple like Samurai.
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Who is the best MC and why is it Raido?
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>>157845296
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>>157856292
I think Satan is The Dragon
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>>157856637
Except SMT If... links to both, and Tamaki clearly still has memory of negotiating with and fighting actual demons. Plus Kyouji Kuzunoha still exists, possessing people. And there's even a sidequest involving devil summoners at a school where the summoners complain about you guys not having run out of MAG yet.

The Embryon could also totally use COMPs if they were in a place that had them.
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>>157853830
I'm a big fan of the full rune design on 74's hand and arm.
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>>157845302
He's Gnostic Lucifer. That's literally the role he's used for in P5. He even does Demon Lucys pose when descending from the Heavens to kill God after you murdered the four Archangels and his angel shadow minions.
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>>157857178
A teacher even mentions seeing Hero and Pascal some time ago I recall.
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>>157857616
How would hero even compete in the Persona/DS universe?
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>>157857691
He dies in a cave in.
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>>157857776
No bully.
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>>157857826
Only bullying if not true.
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>>157857178
IF only happens when Raidou goes back in time, it's an alternate timeline. If doesn't link to both, If is an alternate reality happening when the ICBMs don't happen because Raidou changed the past.

And yes, there are some mentions of devil summoners but the demon population seems to basically be nada and the few demons that are around hugely out power most people. See Izanami and such which weren't nearly as encompassing powers in mainline.

I honestly don't think a summoner can be a persona user. There's a reason it hasn't happened before in the series and more than likely it's a compatibility thing, you can either control demons or a persona. Not both.

>>157857616
That's because he didn't have to do anything in Persona universe. He lived a normal life.
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>>157857413
so is satanael basically just a carbon copy of lucifer who doesn't look as cool? is there anything that makes him special or different?
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>>157858146
He has a uniform, saves Christmas, halo with wings on it, and a gun.

>>157857984
He changed nothing. It was XIV and Lucy who watched the Time Stream who realized Raidou is super speciql and can change the future.

Also a homosexual fuccboi janitor makes everyone believe in Potter to summon him.
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>>157858146
Thematic
>final boss is a demiurge
>ultimate personas all are themed on rebellious gods
>wanting a lucifer redesign
I like satanael to be honest.
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>>157858584
Fuck that last part was for the top comment.
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>>157858584
Didn't you hear, he's irrelevant. Floral pants man will get everyone to save Christmas if no moon max 10
He's Asahi lite in terms of suffering in game as well
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Making an uber Medusa, don't know what to put in the last slot
>charge
>snake's fangs
>thunder gods
>gun pleroma
>high gun pleroma
>gun pierce
>repel force
>???
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>>157857984
Most of the timeline theories I've seen regard If... as crossing from one timeline into another. At the beginning it's in the mainline timeline, then the school is transported to the Expanse, and when it comes back it's in the Persona/Devil Summoner timeline. If... doesn't split the timelines (Raidou did) but it has connections to both.
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>>157858669
>>157858712
>>157858584
>>157858146
He even does the arms-outstretched Lucifer pose as he descends, Kaiju-side, behind Phantom. And Lucifer is one of the prereqs needed to fuse him.
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>>157859032
The only official timeline they've made also had If... take place in SMT I-II as well.

And that one Manga where male Tamaki gets stuck between the Messians and Gaens after finishing off Hazama.

>>157859024
Is there a link, because I've at least seen evil smirking pics of bad end siding with Yalda so I know that's real.
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>>157859135
What's the rest.
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>>157859032
And then IVA said everything is canon.
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>>157859375
What, this one? I find this timeline a little suspect anyway because it treats Devil Summoner and Persona as being separate and doesn't connect Raidou to anything. It's more useful in determining temporal relationships than how the series actually connect. But if you wanted to interpret it literally, that's probably fine too.

Female Tamki's appearance in Persona is also a more reliable source of canon timeline info than a spinoff manga too.
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>>157832656
Put both Pleromas on him. They stack. My Cleopatra was doing 5k damage after a Concentrate.
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Guys, having interacted with Toki, I have now come to the realization that I need a 3D waifu.

How do I get one? Do I suck a girl's dick?
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>>157859948
Technically the Summoner games can be their own timelines and that one branches off to become a new one that leads to persona. Grown Hazama even asks for demons along with Daleths waifu in Soul Hackers.
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>>157860416
When you see a cute girl down the street, go to her and ask her if she believes in a world of STR where the strong shape it as they see fit. You might accidentally ask this to a law/neutralfag so things might get nasty, I have a few horror stories related to this, but you have nothing to lose because you're a fucking loser asking how to get a gf in here of all places.
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>>157860416
>3D waifu
No such thing
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>>157859948
It just means similar events play out. In Reikos ending Hazama becomes a baby and that's the ending they seem to go for in Persona, but he shows up as an student asking for shit in SH.
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>>157860442
Yeah, probably. Kyouji himself is surrounded in so many mysteries that his spirit's presence alone isn't enough to confirm that two games take place in the same universe. Problem is that there's no specific event in DS or SH that looks like a point where timelines could diverge.
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>>157860416
The first step is to download the Demon Summoning Program to your smartphone.
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>>157860607
I thought this place was populated by all the winners in life since we all play the best games ever made.

>>157860659
Is making friends really pointless? I still haven't made a friend yet but I would like to.
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>>157860416
Ask your mother.
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>>157860909
>this place was populated by all the winners in life
Eh, not really. My last gf was a Whitefag that killed herself and my dog so I'm not interested in relationships right now.
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>>157856637
Demon Summoners canonically exist within the Persona universe.
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>>157858669
>>157859135
alright, thanks guys
not a whole lot, but i'm glad there was some sort of meaning behind the choice
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>>157860909
>winners
You're full of edgelords, pussy messians, and faggots who think having the world constantly repeat with no solution is acceptable.

What do you think anon?

That being said, just join a club. I've gone through buckets of friends over the past year due to relationships, you just kind of need to take the first step.
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>>157860416
>suck a girl's dick
Yes you do
*unzips dick*
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>>157860725
Ok. Where do I get it?

>>157860929
I did. She told me a loser and a retard and left. I thought I would find the answer here because this is the most intelligent place I go to on the internet.

>>157861061
>My last gf was a Whitefag that killed herself and my dog
Dude what?
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>>157861185
I recognize that dick!

Also don't present femine dicks to me, that's rude. Zip that dick back.
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>>157861231
>Dude what?
Don't date Whitefags.
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>>157861329
>>157861329
*rezips dick*
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>>157861231
Ask your dog.
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>>157861415
I give my condolences to you anon, more to your dog than anything else because being forced to go with someone else is just sad. Especially a pet who doesn't know better.


>>157861697
He'll just ask him for a life stone anon.
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>>157861162
>faggots who think having the world constantly repeat with no solution is acceptable
Isn't that what we do with problems irl lol?

>That being said, just join a club
What's a club?

>>157861185
Alright.

*kneels* *suck* *slurp* *slorp* *swallow*

Do I have a girlfriend now?
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>>157861415
I always thought white girls were the epitome of class, grace and beauty. I dreamed of dating one.
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>>157861951
He's likely talking about the nihilists Whites. AKA SMT 4 Whites, not a race.

>dreamed of dating a race and not only that putting a race on a pedestal
Gross, just date whoever you want.
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>>157862178
>Gross, just date whoever you want.
But I need an ideal to compare what I have to in order to feel bad about myself.
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>>157861951
>I always thought white girls were the epitome of class, grace and beauty. I dreamed of dating one.
They are anon. As a brown man, I only go after white girls. Especially the kind that have racist parents/grandparents.
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>>157862504
I too am a brown man but I haven't been able to find white girls.

I tried ordering one through mail but I didn't have enough money for it.
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Just fuck your family
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>>157837762
>Add in a scene from before the nukes. Add in a scene where you play as michael fighting lucifer at the beginning of time. Expand the story to like xenosaga involve things that stretch the entire length of history.
this sounds fucking terrible
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>>157843287
It's funny because law ending in IV eliminates social castes in Mikado.
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>>157837762
Please no. SMT's lore is detailed just enough. We don't need more.
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I'm gonna do it different during these three days.

It's gonna be three days of toki, so I can have more time working on the alts. gonna also try making more than one drawing tomorrow.
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>>157828775

>Gutting the OP

Trash.
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>>157842323
Walter dove Chaos and never looked back. He would never bow to the angels even if he is a good person.

Jonathan just has too much faith in the system to take any action to break it.
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>>157863237
Thanks. You looking to beat 32 alts?
You taking suggestions, SFW or not?
Dagda dressed as P5's Joker?
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>>157863237
>three days of Toki
You are murdering my dick here, man. Godspeed.
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>>157842457
He'd a terrible persona protag. Would fail all his social links and die alone and miserable.
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>>157863616
>implying he wouldn't string them along to get bonuses then kick them off the curb
>then hijack main villain's plan
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hoy
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>>157865787
>Update
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Anyone else not a fan of the friendship is magic ending?
Also how did Navarredie exactly, he says he drowned but I remember reading he did a suicide somewhere
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>>157866403
he slipped and fell into a river while beating off to a hunter bathing nearby
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>>157866403
he apparently drowned trying to peek on someone bathing if I had to guess off what I gleamed from playing through
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>>157828775
What are some NG+ only content in Raidou 2?
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I wanna launch my ICBM into Toki's Perpetual Reactor
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>>157856025
NOW I FACE OUT
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>>157866595
You have to go chaos to unlock the majority of it.

It's been a long time since I played Raidou 2, but I'm pretty sure there were several NG+ exclusive cases that lead up to you fighting Lucifer.
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>>157866742
>sticking it in a gaping void
>posts dark elf
Checks out
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>>157866595
If you went Chaos 1st cycle
>Louis Cyphre transformation
>Lucifer battle
>Access to some areas in the Akarana Corridor

Plus some sword fusions are unlocked. I think Law has one or two unlocks but nothing I can think of off the top of my head.
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Ok /smtg/
Post your physical SMT game collection

>DeSu2
>PQ
>P4G
>Soul Hackers
>SJ
>Smt4 & 4A
>DDS1
>Nocturne
>Both P4 fighting games
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>>157867330
P3
P4
Nocturne
DeSu
DeSuO
DeSu2
DeSuRB
SJ
P4ArenaU
SMTIV
PQ
SMTIVA

I think that's it.
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>>157867330
>P4 vanilla
>Nocturne
>SMT4 & 4A
>SMT1 Super CD
>Devil Summoner Special Box
>Soul Hackers
>DSRK2
>SJ
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>>157867330
>Posts 11 games
>only 4 are actually smt
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>>157866871
>Not liking dark elves
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>>157867330
SMT I
SMT II
Nocturne
Strange Journey
SMT IV
Raidou 1
Raidou 2
DDS 1
DDS 2
P1
P2IS
P3
P4
PQ
Nine
Demikids Light and Dark
Devil Summoner
Soul Hackers
Ronde
Devil Survivor
Devil Survivor 2
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>>157867330
DeSu2
DeSu2 RB
Nocturne
DDS
DDS2
IV
IV Apocalypse
Raidou 2 with the Raihou plush
and some Persona crap too
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Are ailment skills worth using in Apocalypse? seeing that so many demons are specialized in it, like mothman is early buy it gets +4 already
If yes then which one? I'm thinking about Bind but honestly I'm not sure if they're even usable on bosses
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>>157868629
Bind, Sleep, Dizzy don't usually work on bosses but they can help in random encounters on higher difficulties
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>>157867330
SMT 1 SFC boxed and PS
SMT 2 SFC boxed and PS
SMT IF SFC boxed
SMT 3
SJ
SMT 4
SMT 4A

Devil Summoner Saturn
Devil Sumoner Special Box
Soul Hackers Saturn and 3DS
Raidou 1
Raidou 2 with Raiho

Majin Tensei boxed
Majin Tensei 2

Megami Ibunroku PS1
P2 IS PS
EP PS
P3FES and PSP
P4
P4Arena for some reason
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>>157868629
They are useless on bosses but useful against randoms, especially bind.
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>>157863165
As long as you aren't an unclean piggu, which could come down to anything the Archangels don't like.
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>>157868762
>Those oldass cartridges

You must be old indeed.
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God damn it why did I despise Navarre in IV but adore him so much in IVA? Is it his Makakaja?
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>>157869025
Nah. 23.

>mfw I have 3 copies of SMT 1 and SMT2
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>>157869307
It's his being around for more than an hour and being an actual character this time
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>>157869307
It's that sweet ectoplasm ass, obviously.
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So what is YOUR reason for not buying this?
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>king frost on war

How?
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>>157845296
this nigga carried me through the endgame of IV spamming mediarahan every turn
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>>157869901
>picks hard difficulty
>has to ask for help
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>>157869901
go back and buy that blue chinese dress and fuse angel for Magaon, it's doable but fucking hell it's hard
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>>157863931
>implying he wouldn't string them along to get bonuses then kick them off the curb
Dagda is not that smart or subtle.
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>>157868126
But anon this one has a huge fucking DICK
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>>157863237
>3 days of Toki
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>>157870116
Do not bully anon, I'm shit at those games even if I'm good at EO

>>157870235
oh shit, I ignored the chinese dress, time to go back, thanks
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>>157863359
Everything is still there.
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>>157859919
*Nocturne
>>
I wanna hoy inside her hoyness
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>be me
>2nd playthrough
>decide to be hee-ho king, build an unstoppable team of Frost Ace, Demonee-Ho, Black Frost
>I'm level 200, Frosts are level 110, have Satan, Mephisto, and Cleopatra as backup
>go through second cycle of Twisted Tokyo, Fiends drop nothing but Incenses, don't have to make second trips for anyone but Trumpeter
>get to En no Ozuno
>he fucks my shit up so bad
>so, so bad

how the fuck do i do good damage on this guy? i could wait it out if i had unlimited turns by using charges, buffs, heals, but it's nigh impossible to get him dead in under 10 moves

also what's the objectively strongest demons in terms of Elec, Force, and Fire?
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>>157867330
>Megami Tensei
>Nocturne
>DDS1
>DDS2
>Persona
>Persona 2: IS
>Persona 3 Portable
>Persona 3 FES
>Persona 4
>Persona 4 Golden
>Raidou 1
>Raidou 2
>DeSu Overclocked
>DeSu 2 Record Breaker
>SMT 4
>SMT 4A
>PQ
>SJ
>P4A
>P4AU
>Soul Hackers
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>>157846307
But luci is in P5
>>
You sense a strong presence...
Will you stay here?
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>>157873234
[x] Remove pants
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>>157859031
Bloody Glee
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>>157873234
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first one is the tamest so here's a sneak peek
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>>157867330
>Nocturne
>DDS
>DDS2
>Raidou
>Raidou 2
>SJ
>SMT IV
>SMT IV Apocalypse
>P4G
>Arena 1 & 2
>P4Dan (import)
>Demikids dark
I'll probably pick up P3FES sometime since I only played a pirated P3P and want to play the Answer.

And does anyone here have experience with translated repros for SMT 1/2? I was considering picking one up for 2 since I have a SNES. Or, what's the process involved in making one? I have a retro game store so cheap maddens/super scope carts I can easily get.
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>>157873794
>*I have a retro game store nearby
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>>157872941
Yeah, but they didn't want to use him as Joker's Ultimate Persona, I guess. Major Persona 5 spoilers: The final boss is Yaldabaoth, gnostic YHVH. He is finished off with a shot from Satanael, who then does the Kaneko Lucifer pose.
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>>157873754
>the lips
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>>157873754
>those lips
>that grin
I really, really like this image
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>>157874064
Damn ATLUS and their devil worshipping games. I can't believe SJWs haven't noticed these games yet.
>>
Going luck only in IVA and you can't stop me.
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>>157874771
Set the game above paradise casulry.
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>>157874771
We can't stop you. But the bosses can.
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>>157873754
>>157874156
>>157874406

What was Atlus thinking when they invented Toki's lips?
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>>157874623
They're too busy arguing whether Kanji is gay and Naoto is trans, or not.
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>>157875189
Doi is a worthy successor.
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>>157875468
It's weird how Atlus stuff always manages to slip under the radar. If say SE put out a game like Nocturne the shitstorm would consume us all like a nuclear explosion.

When Atlus does it, nothing.
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>>157875189
They wanted a traditional Japanese beauty who looks like she could give a good suck
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>>157875712
Sometimes it's good to be niche.
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I'm not used to her proportions yet, been a whole year drawing curvy girls, so when I try making flat chicks its harder but tomorrow I'll get used to her sizes and all.
hope you guys like it, its tame enough so I don't need to make a imgur for now.
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>>157876054
face looks downy af
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>>157875991
That's one of the advantages I guess.
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>>157876184
I'll work harder! hopefully I won't give her downs next time.
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>>157876054
I really appreciate that fang and the lip emphasis. Her face seems a bit off though. The face itself is fine, it just seems off center with her head being slightly turned.
Might be your old enemy perspective
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>>157876479
not him but you could probably slim her face down a little bit, I think
she's got slightly sharper facial features than Asahi
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>>157873754
Toki's lust face is a bit off but so far so good
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>>157876596
Impatience is my worst enemy. I skipped a step on this one and it surely shows how

yet I'll learn from my mistakes for the next one. A friend said I should work on my foundation more and don't lose that much time refining the sketch, but if I don't do that I have a bigger chance of fucking up like that. I'd best stick with my guns until I git guder.
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>>157876054
Face is a bit better now.

Not sure if the bigger chest will work for some people.
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>>157876054
Either the eyes are too big, or too close, can't tell. Just needs some touching up, and it should look better.
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What's the process for the beginning of YHVH phase 2? I just died to him for the first time from that crazy fucking strong AoE he used.

I went into it not knowing what the fuck is going on and didn't notice he had +3 in everything. Do you just debuff him and then luster candy to hopefully survive his fuckhuge AoE? Should I get demons with more health? I was using Angel, Shiva, and Inanna.
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>>157876054
She looks kinda sloppy with the proportions and coloring, but it's fine considering it's your first time.

I'm still enjoying yesterday's pic, and this is alright.
>>
>>157876898
No worries my man, it's still good. I just wanted to tell you what I thought was off with her face.
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>>157877161
Dekaja and Magaon him along with buffing yourself.

Inanna probably can't survive the attack along with Angel due to low HP maxes.
I assume you're playing on War, Alillat makes a good buff bot.
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>>157876054
Are you gonna do more Asahi in the future?
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>>157877815
after the two more toki drawings maybe, I wanna do a Isabeau one first, so I should be able to do another asahi during sunday
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>>157876054
I just realized her right tit resting on her hand.
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Where the fuck is this bookshop in IV?
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I'm surprised at how easy is is to get out of a random fight by asking the demons for money in SMT1

it's almost like I'M the random encounter
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How can I get me a fancy Demonica in IVA?
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>>157876054
I think it would be better with a smaller head/face and the eyes look a bit wonky. I'd also trim the hair down a bit.
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>>157879142
That's really good. Only thing I'd say is make her jawbones slightly less defined.
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>>157878005
>Isabeau
Oh good choice.
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>>157878869
Same way as in 4, but with a much less tedious and expensive challenge quest to get the black card.
The suit itself is way more expensive, though. Good lord.
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>>157879142
10x better
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>>157829396
Did they just throw out a plot thread about Devil Busters or something? I know it's a thing in MT2 (as a game within a game) and Giten.
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>>157876054
>>157879142
>two new Toki's in a single day
Thank you guys
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>>157879142
Damn Sol you got cucked
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>>157860929
Bayonetta as a DLC demon with special gun skill when. Also Witch time to remove press turns.
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>>157879695
Hard to tell one way or the other when it's a fan translation we're dealing with
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>>157828775
Someone should do one of these with the SMT4/A cast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjMk5PL2bjg
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Fire Pieroma or Resist Elec?
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>>157879842
Nope. She should stay in her shit game where she belongs.
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>>157879902
It's not that bad for something made in 2002.

Should definitely be redone on the PS1 some day though.
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>Is that it?
>Flynn strong armed the demon for an additional 500 macca
That's fucking hilarious
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>>157879724
its my fault for not making a great job today
>>157879142
that does look far better, thanks anon.
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>>157879902
Well Atlus did officially translate SMT1. Maybe we can see what they used for "Devil Busters"?
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>>157880363
I don't think Devil Busters is improper. It's an actual thing in a few games.
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>>157881525
Still more refined than what was littered on the booru when I started lurking /smtg/.
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>>157845296
She actually pulls her own weight in battle. Concentrate+ Unique Skills combo ended up destroying enemies. Easily the one of the best endgame demons in Apocalypse. Imagine if she was released in other Megaten Titles, Inanna would be null every element except Phys and Gun.
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>>157881525
we want the persona audience
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>>157881948
*fujoshi
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>>157845296
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Is there a reason why there's no lists of the VAs for the demons in Apocalypse?
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>>157879939
This video is just so good.

It makes me want to replay Nocturne.
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>>157882185
I'm still trying to figure out who voices Toki in english.
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>>157845296
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>>157881948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCfjt4bbJ4g
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>>157881895
>Boss Inanna
>Null all but Physical and Gun
>same gimmick; her unique skills make her weak against one element
>at low HP, she always casts Tetrakarn, Concentrate, and one of her unique skills in that order
Would make a good casual-filter.
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>>157880114
On what?
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>trying to make the perfect the White Rider in Apocalypse
>have a bunch of high level demons with the skills I need to perfect him
>no idea where to start
Why is fusing the perfect demon so hard, bros?
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>>157867276
All Law unlocks can be done on 1st playthrough and no NG+ or alignment lock.
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>>157882960
Okay, so White Rider is kresnik + matador
An easy way to do it is put your skills on a genma then rank him down with an element
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>>157881525
>excited to have crossdressing Nanashi
>the armor is only in the Black Card shop, where it would just be a waste of money on the path to the Superior Samurai Armor set
fug
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>>157882427
What a handsome, trustworthy looking angel.
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>>157882960
Just fuse down to shit demon and filter the skills
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>>157883452
Why is he so devout?
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Why are the demons after Ueno so fucking shit compared to early game? you can get top tier demons from level 2 through 11 but after that everything became so bad
Like, to make a physical demon you need to fuse 2 magical demons and vice versa
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>>157880152
>being this much a faggot with shit taste
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>>157884537
I prefer women with class not tasteless whores.
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>can't whisper Soul Drain

refunded
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Wait demons don't get overwritten after fusion anymore? what the fuck?
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>>157884870
>implying Bayonetta doesn't have class
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>>157885248
Literally everything she does is sexualized.

I don't want that cheese in mah smt.
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>>157885423
Bayonetta feels too "ironic" lewd to fap to.
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>>157885423
>I don't want that cheese in mah smt.
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Should I be an obedient cuck and buy the grind DLCs? playing early without MP regen and piddly amount of macca is suffering
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>Persona 5 is literally a sequel of IVA
>Dagda reincarnated as Joker because Nanashi thinks he should make some friends
>Asahi reincarnated as Futaba because she's too useless and now she's a genius
>Hallelujah reincarnated as Ryuji because he's too timid, and now he's a loudmouth

Deepest lore
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>>157885423
>Not wanting to see Bayonetta drawn by Kaneko or Doi
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NX in two hours fags. Are you ready to buy a next nintendo console for future mainlines?
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>>157886526
It's gonna be another underpowered, region locked piece of trash.
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>>157886526
SMT Arena for NX screencap this.
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>>157886526
I'll pass
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>>157886526
SMT is going back to Sony baby
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>>157886526
>lying on the interne-

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/788900063833493504

oh shit

If SMT is going to land on this please don't let the audio be ultra compressed shit again

please, it can be a text adventure but please no more shit audio
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>>157886678
>SMT is going back to Sony
>back to Sony
>back
Hello newfriend.
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>>157886678
>Implying people will play mainline on the PS4

Persona is just superior; why waste money for an inferior Persona dipped in edge?
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>>157886526
I have confidence that it'll be good. Hopefully we'll get SMTV sometime in the next 3 years.
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>>157886941
>Hopefully we'll get SMTV sometime in the next 30 years.
Ftfy
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>>157886818
They already have the assets on PS4
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>>157887009
It's fine, we'll have plenty of Persona 5 spin-offs games to play while we wait.
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>>157887051
That they'll use to pump out a million or two spinoffs that would make more money in sales and merchandise than any SMT game
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Does anyone have the concept art for Nozomi? i've been looking for that for a while
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>>157887114
Goddamn, I really hate this shit. Why do trashy spinoff games make more money and get more money devoted to them then the mainline SMT games? Is Persona really that much more popular than SMT? If so, why?
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>>157887321
>Is Persona really that much more popular than SMT?
Yes
>If so, why?
Waifus, more relatable, waifus, they're easier, more inviting art-style, waifus
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>>157887321
i hope they somehow remake this game for the 30th anniversary coming up in a year
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>>157887321
Persona is otaku bait, while SMT's intended audience was always RPG fans.
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>>157887321
SMT is edgelord Pokemon and based on trash villains like Lysandre and Umbrella Corp. knockoffs like Aether Pokemon is filling the slot its granddad is supposed to fill.

Also SMT having only one good ending and two to three bad ones people try to pretend to like because fanon theories (Except the Reasons which suck more dick than vanilla DS1 Yuzu end)
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>>157887559
>SMT's intended audience was always RPG fans.
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>>157883280
>>157883725
Well that saved me some time.
I always forget about the element race.

And here is the finished product.
He's okay.
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>>157887706
Prove me wrong. I welcome it.
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>>157887321
We live in the failed messiah timeline anon

>Media Create sales numbers have been released showing that the game, as of now, is the best selling game Atlus has released in Japan since the company was founded 30 years ago.

http://personacentral.com/persona-5-best-selling-release-atlus-history-japan/
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>>157887559
SMT's gameplay took Nocturne to not be physically painful without save states and even then I'm probably stretching it and should say Strange Journey.
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>>157887779
Good stuff. Shame there's no room for bloody glee, though.
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>>157876054
After jacking off to her mouth, I can't see the flaw I saw before anymore. I've become enlightened
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>>157887814
SMT's battle system is like Pokemon but more chances of derailment.

Other RPGs aren't Pokemon's forgotten granddad
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>>157887485
Why are people obsessed with having fictional characters obsess over a virtual avatar of themselves? Isn't that just delusion and vanity?
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>>157887998
>SMT's gameplay is like Pokemon
(You)
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>>157886791
Smt starts at nocturne mate
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>>157887861
then maybe you're, i don't know, NOT cut out for this series?
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>>157887861
How is that an argument against my original statement?
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How do you farm Mitama as magical MC? I went physical in IV and used +7/8 hit all physical but it seems that magical skills don't really do damage to them
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>>157887861
>he thinks nocturne is painful
go play persona 2
Now that's painful
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>>157887861
Strange Journey's gameplay is way worse than Nocturne's though. Every aspect of it's so slow, the character customization's butchered, it lacks the larger party and MAG management of older SMTs despite abandoning Press Turn (which was an acceptable reason to re-do things since they couldn't work together), and it's 100% dungeon crawling instead of any balance of other things.
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>>157888015
Its why SAO made money. And yes people are that vain.

>>157888102
>Hitting weakness till it dies
>failed negotiations and escaping the Pokeball
>cutemons like Jack Frost/Decarabia
>Villain quality is bad but different audience tone
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>>157888215
Did you try almighty?
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>>157888215
Ara Mitama (Red) - Exp items. Weakness - Ice, Electricity.
Saki Mitama (Yellow) - Cash items. Weakness - Almighty only.
Nigi Mitama ( Light Blue) - App Point Cards. Weakness - Light, Dark.
Kusi Mitama (Dark green) - Incense. Weakness - Phys, Guns.
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>>157888280
To >>>/v/ with you.
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>>157888113
That's why SMT makes no money. Casual filters everywhere suck.

>>157888229
None of the casual babbies care about Persona 2 either.
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>>157887840


The 1st week JPN sales for Apocalypse compared to IV btw

>Media Create
>Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final (3DS) – 96,349
>Shin Megami Tensei IV - 184,811

The drop off, wew
looks like Persona fans and other newcomers didn't like the SMT formula
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>>157888280
Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei, the very first MegaTen game, released on September 11 (I kid you not), 1987. The first Pokemon game released on February 27, 1996. That's nearly a 9 year gap.
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>>157887890
Yeah, bloody glee is really good.
Have it on my Red Rider and he tears shit up with it and terror blade.

I was thinking of re-fusing him to get him better equipped, but I'm quite content on how he is now.
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>>157888240
(You)
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>>157888531
But to dumb casuals its what they see.

Matters not if SMT came first.
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I used a fuma bell in SMT1 and haven't seen a random encounter in a few cycles. Does it ever wear off?
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>>157888636
Whoops, forgot my pic.

Gonna work on Black Rider and maybe trumpeter next.
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>>157888720
Doesn't help that the first game in english was Nocturne
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>>157888280
>>Hitting weakness till it dies
So most rpgs then.

>>failed negotiations and escaping the pokeball
Asking a demon for money or to join your party is not the same as beating the shit out of them then kidnapping them.

>>cutemons
This isn't an argument.

>>Villain quality is bad
I'll give you that, but they are still a bit better than pokemon villains.
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>>157888503
The game being named like a Maniax version of IV instead of a new game and IV being shit didn't help.
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>>157845296
Gotta go with my lord and savior Mishaguji
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>got all equipments from the fiends
>got all the armor set including the two from YHVH dungeons
>compendium stuck at 98% because lol fusion accident
>completed all quest
>get through both bond and massacre ending
>level 220

Welp I am done with IVA
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>>157888749
Should last until the next new moon
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>>157888990
You still have to solo the game on Apocalypse
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>>157888998
Oh, I assumed it was full moon. Maybe it hasn't been as long as I thought.
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>>157888691
(You) too.

That movement speed's inexcusable and demon coop is a weak replacement for systems with more management and moving parts (SMT1/2/DS/SH) or systems that are more dynamic (press turn). Music's not as catchy as pretty much any of the earlier games too.
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>>157888990
>All equipment from fiends
How, I tried loading my saves and I never get them. Is it just a small drop chance or what
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>>157889259
>guys, for some reason I can't get the taste of shit out of my mouth.
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>>157889426
He's right, you know. SJ is a boring, bland piece of crap. Thank god it bombed horribly.
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>>157889384
3rd cycle (TT2). They starts to drop 1 item, then increase by one every cycle, until max of 6. In TT2 they drop 3 items

I am not sure if they drop earlier but I only start savescumming during 3rd cycle (since that's when they confirmed to drop in gamefaqs)
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>>157888280
>>Hitting weakness till it dies
Like in every single RPG that exists. Also unlike in Pokemon, Demons aren't bound by types, so you get stuff like Black Frost using ice but reflecting fire and Lucifer being inmune to almost everything and casting whatever the fuck it wants if you fuse it right in DeSu. Also demons don't stay consistent in what attacks or weaknesses they have

>>failed negotiations and escaping the Pokeball
These are completely different. One involves the pokemon escaping from it's pokeball, wich basically wastes it's turn, the other involves the demon getting angry and either attacking you (in wich your turn is the one that is wasted), running away, or forgiving you and giving you another chance.

>>cutemons like Jack Frost/Decarabia
Again, it's common for RPGs to have cute enemies. Also, I don't think I would consider Decarabia a "cutemon". It's a cyclops starfish.

>>Villain quality is bad but different audience tone
They still have better motivations (except the reasons) than most Pokemon villains.
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>>157889426
SJ is really lame gameplay-wise, it only has its dungeons to save it really
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Nocturne battle theme is really cheesy for its time
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>free level 99 demon
Damn, thanks Louis.
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>>157887779
Does God's Bow base off of Dex like Desoerate Hit?
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Where the Hoy
Where the Hoy
Where the Hoy
Where the Hoy at
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>>157891013
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>>157889664
t. average smt player who cant into demon sources/mitamas
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>>157890506
I think it bases off magic.

God's Bow does about 392 damage.
Riot gun does about 500.

Also I thought desperate hit scaled off of STR.
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>>157891013
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>Trumpeter comes only with evil melody, soul drain, and smile charge out of the box
>only rider that has skills that match up with trumpeter is White
I liked Trumpeter in Nocturne since I could set him up with all the skills I wanted easily.

Now it just seems like a pain in the ass to do that in Apocalypse.
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>>157888503
Japs don't care about SMT just like the rest of the world.
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>>157828775
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>>157891808
why is he brown
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>>157891079
The fusion system is also almost as broken as SMT4
Everything is either shit or you can just shove spells onto things with sources
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>>157860725
Can I get it for PC if I don't have a smartphone?
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>>157891894
He's a Japanese male
>>
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>>157891103
It's definitely not based off of Str. My 250 STR build can only deals 150 per hit when charged. Even then, Awakened Power makes Myriad Arrows the better option.
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>>157892428
I can deal about 400 dmg per hit with desperate hit if I'm charged and buffed.

Though I've mostly been using hell thrust since that's pretty good.

If desperate hit isn't scaled by STR then maybe I should replace it.
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>>157892773
Desperate Hit is useless once you're awakened

Even before that its not really that good

tldr its useless in IVA
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>>157892773
read
>>157892903
just use akasha arts or hell thrust
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>>157891894
alola form
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>Walter: I believe in a world of survival of the fittest.
>Lucifer: I need to fuse with one of you or else I can't beat God's Chariot. Not God himself, just his Chariot. I'm not strong enough to beat God himself.
>Walter: Take my life, please.
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>>157893713
chaosfags on suicide watch
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>>157885835
Holy shit, git gud faggot.
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>>157893713
IV is dumb and has dumb writing, more news at 11.
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In SMT II how can I open the terminal in the Abyss?
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>>157893938
By staring into it.
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>>157893713
>implying Walter know who God is at that point
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>>157886610
You forgot the "with a shitty gimmick" part.
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>>157893713
In a world of survival of the fittest, the guy who insists on always going it alone would quickly die. Fitness isn't just strength, it's also working with others that are also strong so that your combined strength can overcome obstacles.
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>>157893029
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>>157894501
ayyyyylolamao
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OOK OOK EEK EEK
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>>157895305
I want to mate with this primate.
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Official dad and son pairing
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>>157895348
Nanashi please go
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/smtg/, I've done it yet again.

A perfect Black Rider.
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>>157895348
>tag: beastiality
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>>157895356
I want them to be happy together but I also want Dagda to be my dad instead so I can please him to the best of my ability.
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>>157895556
>bloody gee on a magic build
>no concentrate
>empty skill slot
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>>157895556
>bloody glee with no phys/gun skills
>no concentrate
What the fuck are you doing
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>>157895556
Black Rider is shit anyway lol
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>>157895729
>>157895813
Still have 3 skills to learn, Bloodly glee will be replaced and the skill slot will be filled.

Fuck the both of you, now I'm gonna have to do even more fusing to give him concentrate.
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>>157895556
>>
Okay only luck is actually kinda boring since luck doesn't do much. Was hoping it would make negotiating really easy or something else dumb and cheesy. Do I just transition into all str and agi?
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>>157896075
Yes.
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>>157895947
Next time brag after the demon has all its skills and is saved to your compendium

it'll be even funnier to point out your oversights then
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>SMT1
>final boss is immune to electricity
>still can be charmed by magic bullets
This is a well balanced and challenging game.
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I can't sleep because of my subpar Toki Drawing so I'm gonna draw the other one RIGHT NOW

I'll DO MY BEST
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>>157896543
Good look anon! I love you anyways
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>>157896543
Please make some tasteful lewds of the DDS girls at some point.
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>>157896543
REMEMBER THE D.S.L'S
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>>157896543
Godspeed, Anon
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>>157896652
>Good look
I knew I should be asleep at 4am but fuck it
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>>157896734
>tfw 32cm over my gf
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>>157896543
One day I'd love to see your take on Arachne or SJ/SH Tiamat
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>>157896543
Try, try again, man. The only way to get better.
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>>157896652
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>The cycle of destruction and rebirth will continue unfettered for all eternity, improving life for all until the end of time!
This is pretty interesting when you compare him to Nocturne Lucifer, who seeks to shut down this exact cycle. Though Nocturne Lucifer has seen a lot more shit.
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>>157897190
That was before SMT got meta-physical bullshit involved
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>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who fell for the Null/Drain/Repel meme
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In SMT 1 and SMT 2 if a demon is not my alignment how does it effect me in battle?
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>>157897386
If you are law you can't summon chaos demons and vice versa
I don't think you can talk to opposite-aligned demons either.
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Now, he is truly perfect.
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>>157897746
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>>157897746
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>>157897913
>not high Ice Pleroma
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>>157898086
Look again, it's there.
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>>157898132
oh wait I misread it I'm a fag
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Your daily reminder.
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Is it bad that I really want to hold hands with Walter? He's so likeable before the alignment lock that I can't help it.
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>>157898410
fuck off Krishna
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>>157891013
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>>157898445
i want to live a quiet pious life with my husband Jonathan
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>>157898445
>playing the undub
>literally Kamina and Tieria as your bros

I don't even
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>>157898445
>choose Chaos because Walter's so likable
>Goes off the deep end
>Becomes an arm fetus

Why this
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>>157898410
can you poo in salvation
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>>157898610
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>>157898445
>>157898520
Both are patrician choices.
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>>157898683
SALVATION
DRAWS NEAR
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>>157898683
H-his universe would have become a superpower by 20XX, so shut up and accept the salvation of Lord Krishna!
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>steven acts super badass
>turns out all his attacks are just technology.

Does he even know any magic? If he's just using technology, all of this is recreatable.
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i hope dagda walks into my house and smashes a cosmic egg over my head killing me instantly
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>>157899014
BUT
DOES IT HAVE A TOILET!?
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>>157898819
You couldn't be more right about it.
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>>157899039
Then do it, fag.
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>>157899039
>recreatable

But you can't ;)

*unzips Singularity Wave*
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>>157898987
I really hated his edgy cult.
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It's a similar pose, but It's looking far more promising already.
remember to light that spark to do better in your heart, smtg. It helps quite a lot.
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>encounter a group of three demons
>recruit one
>scout+ kicks in
>recruit two demons, each giving me an item and macca
>the third begs for his life thanks to threatening aura
>he also joins me, giving macca and an item

The negotiation apps are so fun to use. Bosses having unique dialogue with them is great too, it's a shame there's usually no point in using them then.
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>horde
>oneshot them ez
>REINFORCEMENTS
>oh yeah more free exp
>ENEMY GOES FIRST
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>>157876184
>>157876596
>>157876650
>>157876804
>>157876939
>>157877137
>>157877186
>>157877445
>>157879142
when did this place become /ic? his arts always been below average, so why are we just now criticizing him?
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>>157900067
That's already looking really good.
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>>157900315
>horde
>temporal blade
>Reinforcement
>temporal blade
I want to dick toki
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>>157900315
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>>157900569
Because we demand only the highest quality demon porn

Actually not really since holy fuck Japan is bad at SMT porn
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>>157900569
Sol isn't that great but derp faces tend to be ruin decent art
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>>157900569
Toki is my favorite character, so I want to see her at the top. I like his art and I wanna see him improve specifically on Toki pictures
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>>157900569
Because Toki a shit, so people won't put up so easily with her.
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>>157900795
delet this
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>>157900840
He's sort of right, aside from Toki being shit. People won't gush over "LOOKIT THEM TIDDIES" like with Nozomi or Asahi, so there's more to nitpick with Toki. Her face was off, but her lips were on FUCKING point.
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>>157900315
>oneshot the entire horde with a smirking light/dark attack

Is there anything more satisfying?
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>>157900067
Looking better. I feel like her eyelashes could be thicker on the edges.
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>>157898410
Why would I ever join a cult lead by a streetshitter?
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>>157900067
Good shit, you adapted pretty well. Her face is centered well and her eyes are a decent width apart. Lips are looking fuckable as well. These 3 Toki days will give me a reason to look forward to getting of of work even more.
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>>157900067
I'm lovin' it mate.

Shall i expect Ahegao and heart shaped pupils from her eyes?
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>>157897190
Alignments were better in SMT1, before they went full Neuter and progressively made the alignments more and more poorly represented, culminating with them becoming strawmen in IVA.
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>>157901223
Because its inherently better than an Irish autist and SJW tree.
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>>157901393
And shitting in the streets isn't autistic?
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>>157901393
What about an Irish SJW Street-shitter
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>>157901393
>>157901474
You guys are just proving why we need the big yellow head. Only He can save us from this autistic street-shitting indo-irish nightmare.
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>>157901474
No one will have shape or form knowing how Nirvana works so street shitting doesn't seem possible.
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>>157901585
fuck off Betatron
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>>157901621
Not him but he's right. I don't want to shit in the streets.
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>>157901621
Metatron version of this when?
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>>157901621
There is no need to be rude, Chaosfag. As part of the Big Yellow package, you also get Lucy. So you have choices beyond feces choked streets strewn with the bodies of black-out drunk Irishmen.
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>>157901759
Humans probably the equivalents of Dragonball ghosts who don't have bodies; they probably don't need to shit in the street.
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>>157901759
But then you'll become a tool to an asshole yellow head that doesn't even like you.
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>>157901771
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>>157901919
At least I'll have a loo to poo in.
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>>157901980
You can use your magical powers to create loos in NSHI's universe.
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>>157901908
>>157901610
>Implying spirits don't shit.
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>>157902082
>NSHI

Is that the big green head that smites the shit out of his friends?
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>>157902151
Green YHVH head with Nanashi's do when?
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>>157902082
We're talking about the universe that the streetshitter wants.
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>>157902151
Yes. Just as the SMT tradition dictates.
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THE GUN IS GOOD
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>>157902334
Omedetto.
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>>157902386
THE PENIS IS EVIL
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In SMT 2 do buffs stack or are they on a timer?
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Fusing a Matador.
>Andalucia
>High phys pleroma
>phys pleroma
>bloody glee
>charge
>resist ice
>pierce phys
>
What should my last skill be? Soul drain, luster candy, life surge, hades blast? I have a lot of options.
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>>157902624
Timer
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>>157902656
Luster candy.
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>>157902691
How many turns? Will it notify me?
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>>157901585
Well, we would have kept him if he didn't start a war against himself, then get confused when it worked.
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>>157901771
Well you could use this, but now that half of neutralfags tolerate genocide too its a little outdated.
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>>157903201
This is the best summary of the final boss in a video game I've read
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>fighting Shesha
>immediately focuses Nanashi down
>spends his sweet time killing my demons who can't damage him

Does STR effect the damage of the sword here? Because I'm running a MAG build and have no STR.
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>>157904259
>he went MAG
You deserved that.
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>>157904259
>MAG
>Not going world of STR, DEX or LUK
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>SMT well never get the recognition it deserves

It hurts. Atleast P5 MIGHT hit the mainstream and its far more SMT like then the other personas.
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>>157904998
It might get the recognition it deserves when they stop putting it on handhelds.
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>>157904998
>recognition it deserves
>a series about atheism and triggering religions left and right

EL OH EL
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>>157903201
>Well, we would have kept him if he didn't start a war against himself, then get confused when it worked.

Of course it worked. Everything he does works. From genocide to overthrowing himself.
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>>157905075
Who gets triggered by SMT? It's so ridiculous and over the top that you can only smile and laugh at it.
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>>157905075
>atheism
Atheists DENY the existence of deities. boyo.
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>>157905075
Could someone be any more autistic?
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>>157905170
http://nichegamer.com/2016/02/03/hindus-are-pissed-that-krishna-is-in-shin-megami-tensei-iv-final/
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>>157905289
>hindus
>mattering over seas

And its just one guy from an organization who cares. Its not like he is the pope

>you can kill YHVH and become god
>no Jew or Christian give a dam
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>>157905529
http://www.cgalliance.org/forums/threads/shin-megami-tensei-very-bad.5836/
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>>157905632
>the face of lawfags
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>>157905632
>Total: 53 (members: 0, guests: 31, robots: 22)

Fuck off with irreverent shit
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>>157905076
If anything, God is just Schizophrenic at this point. All deities are aspects of the Great Will. Whoever is the most dominant remains while the rest are subjugated and suppressed.
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For the ones who have played P5 how are the social links. Didt they say they where getting revamped or something?
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>>157905632
What is the context and why is it pissing me off
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>>157905982
Humans are part of the great will too though. Just with different rules. That people are parts of a whole doesn't change there being some individuality. That's common in the east in general. We think its wierd since we are used to western ideas of identity. Despite eastern ones actually being more compatible with how the world actually works.
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I'm in dire need of some smt related phone wallpapers help me /smtg/
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I am using this I think it looks cool
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Anyone got a webm of SMTIV's fusion accident?
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hoy
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>>157908021
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>>157908021
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Finally got around to continuing Final. Answering edgelord is comical in a sort of so bad its good kind of way. Do they all just kind of put up with your shit?
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>>157902656

Draconic Reaction
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>>157909652
Yes. They just shrug it off even if you're rude as fuck

Like asking hallelujah to go home, he stays anyway
Or ignore Asahi when she's crying
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How much health do the skellingtons have?
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>>157909652
Kind of, but if you actually take the edge route they admit they've always hated you, and felt stuck with you.
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>>157909745
David: 45354
Matador: 50106
White Rider: 58445
Red Rider: 62075
Black Rider: 58615
Pale Rider: 62794
Trumpeter: 121669
Mother Harlot: 81724

Based on some guys that calculate it increase like 20-30k per cycle
I know Mother Harlot has like 140k+ in TT2
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>>157845296
Black Maria. She singlehandedly saved a fucked up battle against Belberith when I first finished Overclocked.
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>finally beat YHVH
I'm surprised he never used Divine Harmony in phase 2. I must've gotten lucky.
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>>157909714
>>157909750
That is pretty bad. How do they react if you chose good boy answers and went edge route? Do they still admit they've always hated you?
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>>157910025
Nope. They instead act like you were best friends, and they don't understand why you did this. I think each character is specific though. Its not an overall thing, but how nice you were to them specifically.
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>>157910025
The only noticeable dialogue I notice is the Isabobo one

if you choose to not help her during the angel fight early in the game she said how she hated you since then

If you help she said she thought wrong of you
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>>157910173
Looking forward to breaking her mind.
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>>157909906
What a chore. Guess I'll just settle for one cycle then.
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>>157910074
>>157910173
That is pretty neat actually.
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>>157872682
Elec: Odin
Force: Krishna?
Fire: Ameterasu
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>>157910204
Ain't mindbreak, but i see your point.

No greater feeling when the girl who admitted she hated you now gets all subservient towards you and is now your personal cocksleeve.
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>>157910392
What do these runes say? niyari? What is that?
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>>157910392
Don't you have your own rpgs to ruin, Todd?
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>>157910531
smirk
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>>157910535
Todd could make SMT half decent again. Alignments anyway and by alignments its neutral dicksucking with some chaos love.
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>>157910623
>Snakes know how to smirk but flynn doesn't.

Okay.
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>>157910671
>flynn doesn't

He only smirk when ganging the monkey
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What are the best healing and de/buff end game demons in Apocalypse?

I'm currently using Krishna as my healer and buffer, but I feel like I could do better.
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>>157910996
tfw never fused anything better than demiurge.
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>>157910996
Cleopatra can debuff a single target defense to -3 in one move and has an affinity of +4 for healing moves
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>>157910996
Depends on what you want

Alilat is good for full time support/buffer because he/she/it is immune to all ailment (except Daze, fucking Daze) and good affinity

Krishna is good for his -2 Ragas

Cleopatra is excellent against the 3 strongest boss in the game (En no Ozuno, Stephen, yellow head) because you can turn their max defense into -3 defense with a single skill


Some other good ones are Norn (no weakness), Xi Wangmu (but i hate her since IV so fuck her), Angel, Mephisto, Trumpeter, Mother Harlot
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>>157911181
>>157911214
>Cleopatra
I can wipe out her horde pretty easily, but she tears my shit up in 3-4 turns.

Might give Alilat a go.
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>>157906202
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worked as much as I can today, gonna finish when I wake up. I think the alts for this one might beat Pascal's. good night, smtg
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>>157911651
I bet a penis goes in that empty space. What do I win?
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>>157911651
smug as fuck
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Has a picture ever been shown of neutral Akira?
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>>157912570
No, but since blasted akira is still human he probably looks like him.
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>>157912570
There has.
Pic related.
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>>157912970
>Neutral
>kill everyone

No
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>>157911716
you win a press turn, good night
>>157912126
I just accidentally started making her smirk.
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>>157913027
>neutral
>takes the early law ending.

Yes,
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>>157913027
Kill everyone has always been neutral.
SMT I and II did it, as well as SJ.
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>>157913027
it's a tradition
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>>157913027
Are you buttmad that you wanted only law and chaos to be genocidal, but you can no longer claim it? Cry more tears. Moderate versions of law and chaos exist, and now an extreme version of neutral. So you have to defend it in ways other than "M-muh genocide."
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>>157898410
>"poo of membership?"
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>>157913467
Moderate Law and Chaos only exist in Devil Survivor.

Don't get why Atlus gave up on that mostly.
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Apocalypse out 2 December in Europe. Finally.
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>>157913714
They kind of exist in IVA, just not as routes. Toki tells you on the end of bonds that she still wants a social darwinist world and will fight to make one, and you may be enemies in the future. So your world may still sway law or chaos. Just in a more moderate way. But since its meant to be a neutral end, it is a token expression at best. The point of course being that just because most games show more extreme versions doesn't mean that you can't use less extreme ones as a context for an ideal.

And atlus gave up in it since it was never their thing. Devil survivor was an odd one out for a slightly younger audience, not an overall trend.
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>>157913714
>Devil Survivor
>moderate Law
Not after that 8th day.
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>>157915876
What are you even talking about? The eigth day makes it better. The original made it ambiguous what would happen next. But the eigth day shows that the angels only follow you the messiah around. After you purify a country, things carry on as normal, but now much more peaceful and less violent and everyone is more happy and gets along better. You the messiah and the angels move on to repeat the process somewhere new. The angels even tell criminals spared from death to submit themselves to man's laws. So there's no direct rule by some kind of angel boss. The only thing that's negative that wasn't in the original is it being clear that god directly let a few people die to make into stories about why not to do various things. Which is definitely sketchy, but the amount of people mentioned in plot was a tiny handful.
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>>157916038
>much more peaceful and less violent and everyone is more happy and gets along better
Typical lawfag propaganda.
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Dagda is die
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I need more Soul Hackers MC pictures. Please help.
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>people expecting NX to be a home console

lel
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>>157918397
boyo
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>>157918760
It'll have HDMI out but still be a little tablet thing.
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>>157918760
My only hope for the NX is that it doesn't have those little nubs instead of control sticks.
Every mockup has had them.
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When a fiend kicks you out is he at the HP you left him at or do you have to do all of it over again
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>>157919004
HP you left them at. If you get them down to red it doesn't show properly until you deal damage
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>>157918243
Got you covered.
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>>157919068
I've been dealing damage but he isn't at red like he was when he kicked me
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Will I be able to impore a save from pirated european SMT4 to pirated american Apocalypse?
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>>157918243
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>>157918243
Hacker's always with somebody in pictures.
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>>157918243
http://smtg.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=hacker
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>>157919431
Fucking rip. Honestly as kinda bland his design is, I love it.
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>>157918243
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>>157919560
Your daily reminder that hitomi is better than nemissa and saying otherwise is admitting to being a kissless virgin.
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>>157918243
>>157919509
It's simple, but got personality to it. Between the two bandages on his face, the purple-tinted sunglasses, and skull shirt, he's got the punk part down right without going too extreme and looking goofy or out of place.
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>>157918243
>>
I think its time we all addressed the elephant in the room. The end of apocalypse where merkabah and lucifer fuse into satan is a blatant ripoff of the end of BIONICLE - The Mask Of Light where makuta and the toa of light merge into one. Do we really want all future megaten games to rip off of legos? By next week, the alignment system will be between that businessman from the lego movie and the insane master builders.
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>>157918243
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Im at the end of Friday in DeSu2 and I have every at 4 or 5 except Airi,Am i fucked over for the best Daichi route or can I still pull it off?
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>>157918243
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>that feeling of emptiness and pondering what to play next

Send help
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>>157920183
SH has a manga? Neat.
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>>157918243
Probably only have one more then anything else would just be official/promo art.
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Just started soul hackers any advice aside from the pastebin?
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>>157920857
Throw that shit in the garbage and save yourself 30 hours.
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>>157918243

>>157920857
Sly personality demons are the ones that can Mystic Change into items and equipment. Easiest way to max loyalty to do that is use some sake that makes them Kind, get into a battle, and just spam guard on everyone and autobattle "repeat last turn" in that one battle until the loyalty's maxed out, they get a bar each turn then.
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>>157920757
Have you played xenosaga 1-3? If you like megaten you should like it. If you liked xenoblade you should like it.
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>>157918243
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>you will never drink with Kamiya, Kaz, Cozy and maybe Kojima
It's not fucking fair.
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>>157921336
You forgot Miyazaki
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>>157921403
Miyazaki is a boring hack.
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>>157921427
And Kojima isn't?
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>>157921471
That's why I said maybe.
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>>157919951
>By next week, the alignment system will be between that businessman from the lego movie and the insane master builders.
I don't even know what that means, but it sounds better than Bonds and Massacre.
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>>157906749
This one?
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>>157922256
No,

Perhaps some macca would persuade you?
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I'm at YHVH's fuckverse and I don't know how to recruit any of the demons here. It keeps saying scout won't work on that demon.

I'm at this point where everything in my demon stock just can't fuse into something better so I don't know what to do.
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>>157922383
You can't recruit demons in YVHV's universe :^)

Have fun in the Cosmic Egg!
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>>157922383
Bad news. You can't. The only way to get better demons from now on is to get them from the end of the cosmic egg and use them for special fusions. Good luck beating the game if you don't have a good plan for fusion and skillset.
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>>157922564
>Good luck beating the game if you don't have a good plan for fusion and skillset.

Yeah fucking tell me about it. I can't beat YHVH's second form because all my demons keep getting fucked by Supernova.
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>>157922383
You don't. Strongest demons you can fuse found out in the open are in Cosmic Egg, special summons and fusion accidents that net Fameds and Zealots can attempt to get you some high level shit that might help with getting things in the 90s. Then there's the Angel line that ranks up if you keep leveling it, and elements for the rest. The lower tier of elements is used for more common types, the higher tier for rare stuff including some of the fusion only races.
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>>157922593
I wanted to lend someone the game right away, so I gave up and just lowered the difficulty. I wasn't going to fuck around finding the secret shop, finding out how special fusions work and whatnot. This is the first game you've needed to do that in, since its the first one where you end at level 99, so there's no other way to get a stronger team.
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>>157922670
Failure as a human.
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>>157922381
Can you describe it? Even if I may have it I'm not quite remembering which one it is.
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>>157922729
I beat mem aleph in SJ instead of pussying onto chaos. That's good enough for me.
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>>157922759
You know, when you fuse some demons in SMTIV, sometimes you get fusion accidents or errors.

Tried looking on youtube myself, no luck.
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>>157922670
There's a free DLC download to break the level cap, it applies to demons and partners too, but also lowers your gains to 2 stats a level. One of the New Game+ demons is level 120 regardless of this, in fact.

Having found the very last area of the game, I haven't even attempted to do the final battle yet, instead opting to fuck around in Twisted Tokyo collecting Fiends. Up to about 140 now having unlocked White Rider, having broke 99 early in Cosmic Egg.

The two DLC exclusive demons are also broken as fuck due to being the only things besides Fiends that come with Pierce skills by default, but you have to actually special fuse to use them, and one of them requires a special fuse itself as a component.
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>>157923148
ain't nothing on Mephisto, friend.
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>>157923052
oh.
Man you guys need to work on your google fu and youtube fu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPk3LzLczgM
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>>157923190
>skips the fusion animation

This triggers my autism.
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>>157923148
Yeah. Like I said though, I was in a hurry to give it, since I wanted them to play as fast as possible to see their take on it. The level raising dlc wasn't out at that time. And if you want to be technical, using that is as cheating as lowering the difficulty was. I might finish it regularly once they are done, but by then I might not care enough to.
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>>157922774
>beat the strongest and most bullshit final boss in SMT history
>can't beat Mem Aleph

Anon...

Now to be fair, YHVH has his own share of bullshit due to a) being cutscene driven making fighting him a chore b) requiring specific skills to avoid wipes aka magaon/some for of dekunda/dekaja and c) being luck based on if your team can exploit his weakness

But really he's pretty manageable if you sit down and fuse some demons to fight him. The fiends are especially useful due to their higher HP count, I especially like Matador to be honest who not only pierces but if YHVH gets phys weak he will skewer him HARD.

But each to their own, I got mad frustrated at the boss about a week ago myself. Felt good to crush him after fusing, still never came close to the ecstasy I felt after beating Mem.
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Holy shit Apocalypse looks absolutely glorious with 3d
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>>157923272
Sorry. I'll try to find a better one in the meantime.
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>>157923462
Nice meme :^)
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>>157923391
>using level breaking is cheating
Anon PLEASE.
Some of the DLC on higher difficulties will literally scale enemies above 100 if you're on a higher difficulty. Hell some of your partners in the Stephen DLC will scale up to lvl 125 for example.

Breaking the level cap is an intended game requirement for lategame.
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>>157923457
Well, I wanted to finish it in a hurry. SJ I was in no rush for. This is unrelated, but the first time I masturbated was when I was stuck on mem aleph. Not literally while I was playing, but I remember it as that same period in my life.
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>>157923519
Thanks mate.
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>>157923391

The fiends at the very least are super useful, since they all come with a nice Almighty drain attack, and most can pierce an element. You don't need DLC to grab everyone from David to Mother Harlot, just a lot of patience since that dungeon is kind of lame to go through, and 10 turn limits on boss fights are a bitch(at least they don't recover to full between sessions).

What I don't like about the fiends is needing to fuse other fiends for some of the later ones, which means spending a crapload to buy back your favorites(Especially damning in the original IV with how fiends are fought/unlocked there, I've had an incomplete Mother Harlot recipe sitting there for ages).
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>>157923617
>first time I masturbated was when I was stuck on mem aleph

What.
Are you friggin underage anon?

>SJ is 7 years old now
>this anon could have been 11 back then
FUCK, I'M OLD.

Also why, that's... I know this is 4chan but friggin too much info nig.
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>>157923904
No. I just didn't masturbate until later. Besides. You realize that strange journey is so old now that someone playing it when it was new would not be super likely to be underage based on that story.
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>>157923904
Oops. I responded to the top half of your post before reading the rest.
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>>157923584
>being this much of a pussy. :^)

Don't justify your failures anon. Admit you are being jewed into pay to win by atlu$, and are the downfall of the series.
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>>157924148
It's free idiot.

Along with two new difficulties.
Get fucked and die.
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>>157924195
I wouldn't know, because I'm not a pussy :^)
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>>157924246
You really don't bait well.

Again, get fucked and die.
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>>157924336
>bait

Anon, you couldn't actually beat the game and you're here making excuses why it doesn't count as cheating because you're insecure. You took the bait. If you weren't insecure you wouldn't have to defend how you play single player games to strangers. Pretending not to be mad when you are won't change that.
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>>157924420
Dude, stop trying.

You aren't baiting me and you're just wasting your time.

tldr; ur a faget
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>>157924643
Tell me more about how not mad you are. You're coming off so aloof right now. Got mad, defended yourself, and need the last word. Your tears are delicious.
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Sorry if this sounds weird but I'm new
If I want my main character to be magical build based, should I teach him Diarama or Media?
Also are the status inducing skills good for him to learn?

Thanks
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>>157924918
Media
No except for bind if you want to fundraise or charm if you're DEX.
You're welcome.
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>>157924918
Media. There's not often when you'll need to heal only one.
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>>157924993
>>157925013
Okay thanks!
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>>157837592
Fucking 60 tries, more or less, and still no Stradivari. I'm starting to think they removed the damn drops in the English version.

3 minute clear times for the past 2 hours. Is there a save editor or some kind of bullshit on luma cfw where I can just hack all the damn fiend drops?
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>>157924918
Diarama. Media is useless because it heals so little.
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What the fuck are messiahs even in IVA? Before now they were limited to the messiah church. Now it seems like the great will constantly emanates certain people having extra special power to depose gods. But why? Is there any particular goal it has. Or is this just part of the system in general. So that if people are dissatisfied they can change their position, and this keeps the gods from being all powerful. Does the axoim even do this on purpose, or is it just a natural part of the flow of the cycle? Steven tells you on massacre to look out for messiahs. And the godess is looking for one to hunt you. But if the one to hunt you already existed, it couldn't have been created to hunt you. So is messiah not even a real role, just a designated term for when someone liberates people from a certain god paradigm? With any reference to them being messianic being more of an assigned title?
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>>157904259
I was also getting BTFO by Sheesha and seriously considered going back to grind for new demons.
But in my next fight I spammed Tarukaja and beat it without even losing any party member.

The buff memes never lie.
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>>157925526
Messiahs in IVA are just a term for people the Axiom chooses to observe the world through. It's implied basically every main character is messiah in that sense.
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>>157925802
But that is a completely different thing from them hunting gods. Which comes first? Are they stronger because of this? Or does this happen because they are stronger?
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Live action Soul Hackers starring Harland Williams when
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Where is the water park in shinjuku?
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>>157925896
It's not about them hunting gods. Any human can "observe" and be a godslayer because of that. Messiahs just happen to be really powerful humans because the Axiom decided to look at those humans observations directly, so they get tons of hidden potential, probably to make more influential observations.
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>>157926507
The term messiah literally means something like liberator though. It implies freeing people from something. That would be an odd word to use if not that they have a specific godslayer role.
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>>157926425
North of Shinjuku proper around a poison zone
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5uik5fgIaI
I love it
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>>157926905
wrong thread dude
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Atlus are confimed for eventually making something for Switch.
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>>157926905
Jeezaloo, Atlus. I'm sick of buying cheap Nintendo hardware.
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http://personacentral.com/atlus-listed-nintendo-switch-partner/

AHAHAHAHHAHA ITS OVER NEXT MAINLINE NX EXCLUSIVE
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>>157927281
Hope you're ready for Persona Q 2
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>>157927316
TMS 2 CONFIRMED GOLDENFACE.JPG
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If you had to choose between law and chaos what would you pick
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>>157927472
White.
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>>157927472
Chaos.
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Do you think if we bitch enough, atlus will add real endings to iva as dlc? Its our only hope.
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>>157927472
Law.
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>>157927472
chaos since no jews
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>>157927281
Please let it be #FE2 or some other shit no one will buy, not EO3U or SMT mainline
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>>157927472
chaos wurld of str
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>>157927434
Are you implying that its bad or what?
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>>157927472
Law is a kickass paradise forever that's only bad because "muh brainwashing" and "muh genocide." Neither of which apply once new generations are born into the actual world.

Chaos is being buttfucked by demons for eternity. Are there even any positives?
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>>157927572
>EO3U
>One screen
I wouldn't count on it.
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>>157927472
Law I guess. I want to say Chaos but Chaos is always way too retarded. I'd take almost anything over Law so long as it doesn't end in the destruction of the human race basically
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>>157927605
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>>157927563
>no jews on chaos
>their goddess is literally Jewish mysticism.

Anon...
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>>157927661
I don't know man, that portable controller looks like it could function like a Wii U controller pad
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>>157927472
Switch
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>>157927760
Mem Aleph is noncanon, Mastema.
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reminder that this exists >>157746652
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>>157927947
Mem Aleph is canon anon, her statues are literally in the Gaea temples.
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>>157928069
>implying SMT4 is canon
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>>157928069
Also, even aside from that, in many games chaos is based on kabbalah as well. II has kabbalah. In nocturne, the amala places you go are allegedly based on it. In IVA lucifer literally generates a tree of life symbol when fusing.
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>>157928157
>implying SMT3 is canon

It didn't even mention Hero or Aleph!
SMT4A had both of them. :^)
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>>157928241
SMT3 is LITERALLY non canon though
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>>157928364
>implying SMTII is canon.
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>>157928420
Once observed by who? Why does someone else have to observe it to make it real?
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>>157928421
only megami tensei is canon
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>>157928420
A universe is a universe, you can't say it's only half.
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>>157928420
Do you think this could apply to real life too?
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The instant kill activated.

Objective complete.
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>>157928958
>Toki will never "instant kill" you
feels badman
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>>157927472
Chaos.
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>>157929139
feels beadman
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>>157928510
It isn't. The game is literally the alternate sequel to Volume 2.
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>>157927472
Law
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>>157929436
Don't say his name.
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>>157929496
>no edit to say Merkabah will destroy 4chan, the land of filth
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can you get dark pierce off of mephisto? i can't fuse him with anything
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>>157927472
A rope.
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>>157929654
Why does something happen? BeFDGNKSDFGSK*record scratch*FGHFGH.

Oh. Well fuck. It was nice knowing you.
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>>157929724
You need to use demon fusion lite.
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Now that gun is an element would human armies stand a chance against demons?
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New thread
>>157930106
>>157930106
>>157930106
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"Welcome. What is your wish?"

*flashes pussy*
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