/fog/ - Fallout General

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First for Kung Laofu!

What are conversion rates on caps?

I think my /tg/is showing, I'm trying to figure out the intricate details of a monetary system based on bottlecaps.

Help.

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Proper prostitution mods when?

>>158206129
1 cap equals 5 burgers.

>not great war edition

>>158206156
When your waifu stops giving it away for free

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where loading times always this long?
i don't remember them being this long

>>158206189
There anything else we can add to this?

>>158206305
I get some battlefield mutliplayer tier loading times too once in a while.
Sometimes when the loading finally ends the camera has gone into that passive slow spinning around my character.

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>>158206129

>>158206129
>>158206459

/fog/ actually figured this out before. Lets see.

Stuff in FO world costs like 3x what it does today

>Pre-War money worth 8 caps
>each in-game pre-War money had a value of $100 on October 23, 2077

1 cap is worth around ~$4.17~ in today's money

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What's your current character theme?

>>158206931
I'm playing as the sole survivor of a cryogenic freezing experiment in a vault who is out to find their missing son and avenge their murdered spouse.

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>only new power added in dlc is the overboss one
>the rest is just dumb paints

>>158207085

Power armor is actually insanely easy to weight paint to make your own, all you have to do is cut it up so it can open and close correctly.

Although yeah, you're not wrong. FO4's big draw was the power armor IMO, Skyrims draw were the dragons, and they did waaaaay fucking more with them.

>>158206931
Grieving mother searching for her infant son while seeking revenge for their murdered husband.

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>>158206156
Sauce.

Is it incest if Nora has sex with Danse?

>>158208862
No.

While Shaun's DNA was used to create the base of synths, its very clear The Institute fiddled with it enough to get all the various synths we see.

I've been sat at the special screen for a while now
What build should I do? Everything I come up with seems to go for all the building perks so I have like 0 points left

What mod manager do you lads use for FO4?

>>158208862
yes

>>158209139
Good.

>>158208862
It depends on if you consider them Shaun's genetic children, or the result of a Human Genome Project sort of deal with Shaun's DNA as a base.

If the former, it's turbo incest.

If the latter, it's about as incestuous as any other human.

In either case, Shaun's programmed all synths to directly refer to him as their Father, so it's almost as if he wants the former, even if he rejects them as nothing more than robutts.

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>>158206931
My waifu is holier than thou! My waifu kills people because god said so! My waifu is going to purge the land on her holy crusade! My waifu has a self-destructive personality and wants to die in battle for unending glory!

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That Hey I'm Shitlord guy's discord got attacked by popular modders and he's trying to expose them like it's actualy drama

>Maxson's BoS is only around 500 people large

>>158209546
>theres a good deal more in DC and probably even more given their practices of letting in non muties

>>158209676
Maxsons Branch must just be a splinter faction.

>>158209676
Actually, according to Danse when he sees the Prydwen, Maxson brought basically the whole chapter with him.

Indeed, its even stated the Prydwen can carry the whole chapter several times.

Its very likely given the need for sponsorship that Maxson's BoS is only about 500 people large in general.

>>158209862
Bit of a big investment in a splinter branch, years on building a blimp

>>158209949

I disagree with this. The way I see it, the world is massively underpopulated. I figure this is because of the limitations of playing a game. Obviously a game can't seriously render a few hundred thousand people. So, I like to think that for every NPC, it represents 5, 10, maybe more people, while named NPCs are, clearly, just themselves.

>>158210232
No man
http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Brotherhood_registration

The BoS, in-game, has a registry system, and the highest number is that of 490.

It also makes sense given that Maxson doesn't have an open door policy like Lyons did, and instead uses a sponsorship program, which would keep the number of new recruits down.

>>158210232
Although the game world is underpopulated compared to what you would have to assume it would really be lore-wise, consider that population levels are still quite low in general due to the technology level and death rate

>>158210908

Yes, that is true. I don't think, lorewise, any area from FO3, NV or FO4 would have more than a few thousand people in it.

Why does fallout 4 run like shit? How can I make it not run like shit?

>>158211114
Stop playing on a toaster?

>>158211114
Compared to previous installments, FO4 is incredibly smooth and stable.

You're either on a toaster or running an ENB/ReShade and/or or too high-res texture mods your rig can't handle.

>>158210908
We also have to consider the fact that, after the war, most small towns in the U.S. would have collapsed since they aren't self sufficient, and are reliant on the vast transportation system,which would have collapsed during the war, to get food.

This would have resulted in most people migrating to the ruins of major cities, since they would have had the most resources, leaving most of the area between major cities very underpopulated.

D.C./Baltimore would be the only major source of people until you hit maybe Philly.

Even then, we heard in Fallout 3 that Philly is "in ruins" and "that dump", implying its even worse off then the Capital Wasteland is.

While the BoS has been slowly expanding thier territory since the end of Fallout 3, its unlikely they have gotten anywhere with any signifcant amount of people.

Most of what they would be fighting is shit like Point Lookout/Zion level of tribals/wilderness rednecks that exist between the major cities.

>>158211163
I'm running a gtx 980ti and a 4690k
>>158211324
I am using a reshade but it's pretty minimal. The inner city is where my frames tank completely, down to the 30s and sometimes dropping below that for a few seconds.

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Whoo boy, imagine if Dr. Liara T'soni looked like THIS!

>>158212664
Wow! Cute!

>>158212664
I will release the lever action fix RIGHT NOW if someone bans buffquad.

>>158213353
Done, check your emails.

>>158213401
All I got was someone emailing me about releasing godzilla at lower res to save file size.

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>An East Coast version of the NCR formed by an alliance between Ronto, The Commonwealth, and The Capital Wasteland, when?

>>158213556
Spam folder? Might as well just release the fix :^)

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>>158213637
To be entirely fair, Ronto could easily be Toronto, Ohio.

>>158214009
Doubtful

Both The Capital Wasteland and The Commonwealth were major cities pre-war.

Its highly unlikely that Ronto, which Ashur placed on the same level as them, was created from a small town in Ohio.

Not to mention Bethesda loves associating things with the most obvious answer just so people don't get confused to what they are talking about.

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Played for 70 hours and only first now found this sweet mailman outfit.

>>158214153
Failman outfit lmao

>>158214198
I need an ice cold nuka cola after that sick burn.

god damn nuka cola song stuck in my head again

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>>158206305
Please help why is this happening

>>158215816
SAVE BLOAT
SCRIPT LAG
YOU'RE DONE FOR

>>158215774
What if there was a place with all the zip of Nuka Cola?

>>158216112
Wouldn’t that be the cheer-cheer-cheeriest place in all the world?

>>158216112
>>158216396
doesn't rhyme fuckzos

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>>158216109
Is there any cure doc

>>158216556
Songs don't necessarily need to rhyme

>>158208862
Even if it's not biological incest, it still has the feel of incest thanks to Shaun's title of Father.

>>158216556
What.
That's the actual first two lines of the god damn song.

>>158216675
>>158216781

song
sɒŋ/
noun
noun: song; plural noun: songs

1.
a short poem that most definitely rhymes set to music meant to be sung by a person who knows how to fucking rhyme
"a pop song"

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>>158216871
Don't bully Todd just because he can't rhyme

>>158216871
Are you okay?

>>158216871
Songs don't have to rhyme you fucking retard, have you ever studied music?

>>158217734
When was the last time you heard a song that didn't rhyme?

Didn't think so either fuckhead.

>>158217815
When was the last time you listened to music without vocals you fucking idiot.

>a short poem that most definitely rhymes set to music meant to be sung by a person who knows how to fucking rhyme
"a pop song"

>music
>needing vocals
>being this fucking stupid

>>158217971
>being so wrong you have to resort to going "NUH UH!!" without actually providing an argument

"Song" is practically synonymous with "rhyme". Go study music history, fucking retard.

>>158216109
>script lag
I thought they fixed that by simply not running scripts

>>158218117
You're insisting that it's a kind of rule that a song needs a. vocals b. to rhyme.
Some of the most influential albums of all time don't even have vocalists on them.
There are no rules to music, there are only guidelines.

I know the physics in Fallout 4 aren't great, but how hard would it be to make a flail?

>>158218502
You're so fucking retarded.

Try telling me that this
>What if there was a place with all the zip of Nuka Cola?
>Wouldn’t that be the cheer-cheer-cheeriest place in all the world?

Sounds better than this
>What if there was a place with all the zip of Nuka Cola?
>FUck off, and die of ebola

Songs need to rhyme. There's a reason why it's one of the base characteristics, because without it you get whatever the hell that other shit is. FUcking retard. Read ONE WIKIPEDIA article.

>>158218789
Not even the guy you were talking too, but this has to be a troll right?

But to answer your question
>Try telling me that this
>Sounds better than this
Uhh, the first one does sound better

>>158218789
>What if there was a place with all the zip of Nuka-Cola
>Wouldn’t that be the cheer-cheer-cheeriest place in all the world
Line follows the rhythm and lack of a rhyme builds anticipation for a rhyme
>Where the river’s made of Quantum and the mountaintops are fizz
>With fun and games and rides for all the moms and pops and kids
fizz, kids, partial rhyme that releases tension from anticipation

It's not rocket surgery you fucking mong. It works pretty well too.

>>158219172
>hurr I'm just gonna pretend it didn't sound better to save face
not fooling anyone, child

>>158219252
shut the fuck up

Happy great war day!

>>158219278
>shut the fuck up
In the words of Stephan Molyneux
Not an argument

>>158218368
>I thought they fixed that
Silly, silly anon. That's cute.

>>158219413
what you posted isn't a song. but then again you're retarded enough that you think "fizz" and "kids" rhyme.

maybe you got "fizzed" as a kid but face the fact that not everyone is retarded as you, alright kid?

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>>158219413
You're being shitposted famjam, and I for one have gotten a good kek out of it.

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>>158206931
anchorage vet who maried a laywer out of mutual desperation (he was a single dad, she was damaged from the war), and who doesnt really care about shaun because he's not biologically hers and she didnt like his dad much anyways

>come across a gang called atom cats
>couple guys walking around in sweet power armor
>hi kid you wanna join our gang?
>might be something in it for you, wink wink nudge nudge
>gee whiz, sure thing mister
>aight go to the guys over there and install this
>right away, sir
>gee, i bet this is just the start of an awesome quest line
>thing installed, sir
>whoa, nice work kiddo, now we'll just-
>OH SHIT, GUNNERS
>10 minutes earlier

>>158219853
>alright guys, ready to hit the atom cats?
>the fuck are you talking about?
>we're going to attack the atom cats
>you want us to attack a gang with four walking power armors, fuck no
>well i'm the highest rank and i say we attack them
>fuck this gay guild
>OH SHIT, GUNNERS
>pew pew
>wow we actually survived this hardcore ambush, good work kid
>now i have a surprise for you for helping us
>ohmygodohmygod
>your very own set of
>OHMYGODOHMYGOD
>atom cats jacket and jeans
>wait what
>thanks for the help kid, see you around
>by the way you can buy a full set of atom cats power armor over at our garage
>just 7k caps :^)

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>>158206931
A brotherhood elitist slut you heathen

>>158219853
>>158220184
Atom Cats are the most based motherfuckers in the game and I aint gonna hear no motherfucker tell me otherwise

>>158219853
>>158220184
Would you describe this stand of autism as more "severe" or "hyper"?

>>158219525
>doesn't even know what a partial rhyme is
retard

>>158220438
takes one to know one dipstick

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>>158219853
>>158220184
i dont quite know what this is

>>158220184
>he isnt rolling in caps, stims and ammo
hub water barons 2 nuclear boogaloo

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>>158213353
Buffquad ban when

>>158221274

Nice job holding a mod hostage just to spite someone on 4chan. You guys would fit right in on the nexus next to darren and eli

>>158221643
There's actually still some big issues that we need to iron out, and that's why it's not released. When it's actually working stable, and as we want it, it will be released. I don't even know who buffquad is.

>>158221773
Don't listen to that faggot, hold it ransom until they get banned

>>158221643
Have a whine, faggot.

>>158206931
Enclave.

Is there a good weapon to use all those .38 pipe ammo that I get?

>>158222342
show me

>>158222559
Sure there is!

Are there any mods that make the role-playing experience in fallout 4 actually good? Like skills for example

>>158222745
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/19292?

>>158222952
>Shilling your own garbage
Seriously

>>158223937
Everyone shills their own shit man. If you actually made mods you'd know it's important to get exposure and feedback to improve with.

Plus, it's always fun having people playing something you made.

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>this fucking nif
>won't copy after I made the edits in blender, then exported as an obj then opened in old blender then exported as a nif again
I guess I need shit from the original nif I assume

>>158223937
Wait, you'll complain about that but not about someone breaking the rules?
I don't think you've got your priorities in order.

>>158222745
Nice skin texture, what is this?

>>158224592
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10726/?

>>158222952
>There's one weapon, universally considered trash, that becomes VERY powerful due to this.
This is in regard to Rifleman and the crit, what weapon is it?

>>158225341
Which weapon, in the game, would benefit most from having the last shot in the magazine be a guaranteed crit?

Hint: It also has a mod that boosts crit damage.

You really can't be THIS dumb.

>>158225646
Righteous Authority?
That's a pretty shitty weapon after a while.

I use fully automatic weapons, so I can't be sure.

>>158222745
>Skills
>good
dear god man, did you not play the abominations that were Fallout 3 and NV?

>>158225785
Commando is separate obviously. Though the commando perks in PIP are pretty strong.

Use your brain. If weapons with HIGH ammo capacity get very little use out of the perk, due to the fact that 100% / 20 = 5%, which weapon would get the BEST use out of the perk?

>>158225789
here comes the anti-skill fag again. NV was miles better than this game. Even FO3 was.

>>158225789
skills>the shitty perk/shill merged garbage in this game
fuck off your opinions are shit

>>158225994
>here comes the anti-skill fag again.
What?

> NV was miles better than this game. Even FO3 was.
Lolno.

>>158225994
Not that guy but I'm gonna say a sniper with a small mag or maybe the lever action rifle, they have the smallest ammo capacity of any of the rifles.

>>158226383
Skills had massive issues with points not matter much of all individually and many skills covering too many different things. Additionally several skills had the problem of only certain milestones having any sort of impact on the game.

The new system obviously isn't perfect, but it's a step in the right direction.

>>158225994
If it's a regular rifle then I'm not sure about one specifically, but it's the Double Barrel Shotgun, right?

>>158225789
>>158226527
You fucking retarded, anon?

>>158226734
^This

The perk system in Fallout 4 is far more representative of how skills actually worked in Fo3/NV, without pretending its more complex then it really is by a bunch of filler points that do nothing, like Fo3/NV did

>>158226876
>>158226734
>reshuffling the deck is improving the deck
it wouldn't be so bad if shit was more defined, IE raising GUNslinger didn't improve my accuracy with both energy and ballistic weapons

or there were more than CHA checks throughout the game

>>158226527
>Lolno.
Opinion discarded.
How anyone can think FO4 is better than any of the older games is beyond me. Kill yourself.

>>158226738
>>158226586
Yep, double barreled shotgun counts as a rifle. Every other hit is a crit, sawed off barrel gives bonus crit damage. Though the range is short, you essentially gain 50% crit chance through this perk, though it makes any other crit chance redundant.

>>158226734
>The new system obviously isn't perfect, but it's a step in the right direction.
Depends on what you mean by that.
>Skills had massive issues with points not matter much of all individually and many skills covering too many different things. Additionally several skills had the problem of only certain milestones having any sort of impact on the game.
You do realize it's the same thing for perks, right? It's all the same milestones. Instead of putting 15 skill points in one skill, you can dump your 1 perk point for the same effect. All it does is take away flexibility.

>>158226876
>The perk system in Fallout 4 is far more representative of how skills actually worked in Fo3/NV, without pretending its more complex then it really is by a bunch of filler points that do nothing, like Fo3/NV did
No, all it does is take away flexibility while forcing you into cookie cutter builds. With skills you can boost shit up to 100 in a few levels, or distribute your points in unorthadox patterns. You wanna start the game at level 8 and 100 survival, go ahead.

In FO4, everything is level OR SPECIAL gated so you're forced to do the same shit every run. Take damage perks, take medic, take whatever. Don't think about taking CHR or INT cause they suck. Etc. SPECIAL doesn't mean jack shit anymore either.

Step in the right direction is a stretch. Ideally, there should be a way to make very weak perks, but give the player more perk points, so they can choose what to specialize in. And remove the level gated shit. Which is what I tried to do in PIP.

Just came back from a long hiatus, has Kos always been this vocal in the thread?

I see him post a lot, then other people put in their name as his and reply to him, or the other way around. It doesn't matter, it's just confusing.

Speaking of special
Anyone know lots of builds? I know /cfog/ has a build list in the pastebin
>inb4 fudgemuppet trite

>>158227267
>No, all it does is take away flexibility
Saying it takes away flexibility implies the old system had flexibility it did not.

>With skills you can boost shit up to 100 in a few levels
Which is a bad balance problem that no good game allows. Which was thankfully solved via level caps on skills in Fo4.

>or distribute your points in unorthadox patterns
Which is pointless as it just means all your skills are shit.

>You wanna start the game at level 8 and 100 survival, go ahead.
This is the worst sort of mentality
>Want to start the game with 100 in any of the skill!
No, says anyone who cares about balance or good gameplay.

>In FO4, everything is level OR SPECIAL gated so you're forced to do the same shit every run
Except your not because, unlike fo3 and NV, you aren't forced to spend perk point until you want too.

You can only take what you want when you want, unlike fo3 and NV where you are forced to take something, even if you don't want any of the available perks.

>Don't think about taking CHR or INT cause they suck. Etc. SPECIAL doesn't mean jack shit anymore either.
Except SPECIAL objectivly means far more then it did in Fo3 and NV since so many htings skills did were moved into SPECIAL, and all the perks are SPECIAL: gated, meaning you have to SPECALize in order to get the top tier perks.

You know,m like any good RPG does.

>And remove the level gated shit.
No good RPG doesn't level gate shit.

> Which is what I tried to do in PIP.
Which is probably why your mod blows.

You want a world where you can JUST get everything and anything at level 1 with zero effort.

You care nothing about roleplaying at all.

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>>158227776
>all special can be maxed
>no skills
>minimal checks
>most checks are CHA
builds are
ded
e
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>>158227926
>waiting until like level 250
Be realistic, you only really make it to like 80

How bad an idea is it to spread points to try basically everything? I want to go through the DLCs and try everything out to see what I like.

>>158227804
>implies the old system had flexibility it did not.
So being able to slowly level up a few skills or cram them all into one isn't flexibility?
Why would you lie?

>>158228063
^This.

Even after cheating myself to 10 INT right off the bat, and getting the INT bobblehead ASAP, after going through The entire Vanilla game
+Metagaming to where I did as many of every main factions quests as possible before I got locked out
+Automatron
+Far Harbor
+Nuka world
+doing a lot of building shit
+Doing a number of radiant quests

I got to level 105 after doing EVERYTHING in the entire game + all DLC.

there is no way to playthrough the game normally and get even 1/3 of the perk points needed to max everything, which takes getting to level 340+

>>158228220
>So being able to slowly level up a few skills or cram them all into one isn't flexibility?
Its not, because skills were so terrible in fo3/NV that most of the point you put into it didn't matter.

>>158228381
i guess this is why i like wotc i'm at level 90 and I have only done the automotron dlc, and i'm not even close to finishing any of the factions main quests.

>>158227804
>Saying it takes away flexibility implies the old system had flexibility it did not.
Nice evidence. You do know you're in the minority on all this shit, right? Let's see. If I want to run a mad scientist build in NV, what can I do.
I can have science, repair, energy weapons maxed out by like level 20.

In FO4, what can I do?

I can have two ranks in each by level 20. And a bunch of other shit I didn't want but had to take because fuck roleplaying.

>This is the worst sort of mentality
Roleplaying is the worst sort of mentality? Elaborate.

>Which is a bad balance problem that no good game allows. Which was thankfully solved via level caps on skills in Fo4.

>No, says anyone who cares about balance or good gameplay.
The concept is not bad, the execution can sometimes be. Have you even played a goddamn Tabletop RPG before? That shit is dope as all hell and one of the best parts of roleplaying.

>You can only take what you want when you want, unlike fo3 and NV where you are forced to take something, even if you don't want any of the available perks.
Because perks are relevant to your build? Granted, I have nothing against holding on to perk points, but that system wasn't bad either.

>Except SPECIAL objectivly means far more then it did in Fo3 and NV since so many htings skills did were moved into SPECIAL, and all the perks are SPECIAL: gated, meaning you have to SPECALize in order to get the top tier perks.
That's what skills were for. SPECIAL essentially became Skills Lite, even speech moved on to CHR. It's funny to see you bash skills while praising SPECIAL. Which in the past was always sort of character customization and backstory, something permanent and immutable.

>No good RPG doesn't level gate shit.
How many RPGs have you even played?

>Which is probably why your mod blows.
Considering the amazing reception your ideas get in these threads, I'm not too worried about what you think.

Go back to playing Skyrim or something, casual.

>>158228730
> And a bunch of other shit I didn't want but had to take
Not him, but this is bullshit, as nothing MAKES you take perks in Fo4.

You can save perk points unless you reach the point you unlock the next rank.

You keep acting like Fo4 is like fo3/NV, where the game holds a gun to your head and doesn't let you leave the level up screen until you pick a perk.

It does not.

Why do people feel the need to lie about simple shit like this?

>using the lack of checks as evidence that the new system is shit
That's a problem with the quest design, not the new system.

>>158228730
>mad scientist build takes you to level 20 to max out 3 skills in nv
not him but by level 20 you should have at least half of the skills maxed in new vegas. its impossible not to. Not to mention you would have a high int with that build so yeah.

sounds he like isn't the casual, casual.

>>158228730
>How many RPGs have you even played?
Everything from Ultima to Baldur's gate, to Pillars.

All of them had some talents or w/e that were level gated.

>>158228495
Okay, say I put my Medicine, Survival and Guns up by five points each level up.
I'm slowly leveling them up getting +5 points more healing out of Stimpacks and RadAway from Medicine, I'm getting +5 points more healing/boosts from food and Survival based crafting things while both Medicine and Survival give me new things to craft every level or so.
Every level up also gives me +5 points more damage for my Guns weapons.
I'm also getting progressively getting more stat checks available every level up.

Rather than doing that, I have the flexibility to just dump all 15 points into Survival each level until it's maxed out, unlocking all those crafting recipes and perks and being able to do every Survival check in the game.

Now tell me without lying how that's not flexibility.

It's almost as if people who think Skills are shit haven't played NV or hell, even 3.

>>158206931
a tragic father at terms with his fate, yet untainted by the brutal landscape, who now attempts cautiously to bestow justice wherever possible.

So what is a good jack of all trades build?
And do I really need 6 charisma every time

>>158228990
>some
the key word there being some
literally anything beyond the second rank is SPECIAL and Level gated

>>158228873
>You can save perk points unless you reach the point you unlock the next rank.
So what, you just cripple yourself until you're past an unnecessary checkpoint?
That sure is quality gameplay.

>>158228495
You're complaining about balance, not design. And earlier you said 100 in Survival was broken. Holy shit stop grasping at straws.

>>158228873
>Not him, but this is bullshit, as nothing MAKES you take perks in Fo4.
>Why do people feel the need to lie about simple shit like this?
Science has 4 perks
You need level 41 to max it out.

Do the math.

>>158228965
Yeah, it's been a while. NV wasn't the most balanced in every way, but at least it was fun for roleplaying.

The point still stands.

>>158228990
AND THEY ALL HAD SKILLS.
Let's take a quick vote.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11491811

>>158228880
And both are awful.
What's your point?

>>158229114
>So what, you just cripple yourself until you're past an unnecessary checkpoint?
That would imply not taking a perk every level makes you crippled.

It does not.

>>158229183
>You're complaining about balance, not design. And earlier you said 100 in Survival was broken. Holy shit stop grasping at straws.
Reading comprehension seems to elude you.

I said getting 100 in survival at the start of the game was broken.

>>158229183
Whoops, accidentally voted FO4. I'm a little sleep deprived.

Consider it -1 for FO4, +1 for NV.

>>158229294
>I said getting 100 in survival at the start of the game was broken.
But it isn't? You won't pass any speech challenges, you wont open any locks, you won't do much damage. Skills don't scale exponentially.

>>158229183
Not to mention the game was crap unless you maxed out certain skills early on, or you could play a game with no points in speech or repair. Doesn't matter if it doesn't fit your character from a role play perspective. You had to be a bad ass at talking to people, fixing your shit, lockpicking, and a gun skill.

>>158229401
>But it isn't?
Yes, because it allows you to get massive boosts out of healing items right of the bat it makes early level gameplay even more easy then it was already.

>You won't pass any speech challenges
That would imply NV didn't throw in so many different ways to pass nearly every speech check that it wasn't effectively impossible to never not be able to pass one of the given options.

>you wont open any locks
You can just go back later. Wow

>Skills don't scale exponentially.
I never said they did

> you won't do much damage
That would imply the game didn't throw so many skill points at you that it was impossible to level up multiple skills to 100 by level 10ish, even at medium INT.

In short, basically all of your argument ignore how the games actually work, in favor of this rose tinted glasses fantasy.

>>158229056
>And do I really need 6 charisma every time
Of course.
Otherwise you can't make a proper settlement.

>>158229294
>It does not.
So forgoing damage and other useful perks until you can put them all into one thing isn't crippling yourself?
Doing less damage just so you can say, do the charge in Power Armour at its max level or run while over-encumbered ISN'T crippling yourself?
Care to explain how?

>>158229625
or the perspective of "I have 3 charisma but it doesn't matter i maxed out my speech skill"

the only thing that your special stats mattered for in fallout new vegas was to get an ending that wasn't shit in old world blues. which makes absolutely zero sense from a roleplay perspective

>>158229625
No you didn't? No one forces you to do speech checks, it just makes good endings available. Which makes sense, Negotiators can mediate peace and make sure no one gets hurt.

You don't need lockpick either, you can always hack or just ignore the safes.

>>158229668
>In short, basically all of your argument ignore how the games actually work, in favor of this rose tinted glasses fantasy.
And you're praising FO4 for making the same mistakes NV did. How is SPECIAL gating perks and abilities different from skills?

>That would imply the game didn't throw so many skill points at you that it was impossible to level up multiple skills to 100 by level 10ish, even at medium INT.
>Yes, because it allows you to get massive boosts out of healing items right of the bat it makes early level gameplay even more easy then it was already.
These are balance issues, not design issues. Does the fact that an exploding minigun trivializes 99% of fallout 4 make it automatically bad?

>That would imply NV didn't throw in so many different ways to pass nearly every speech check that it wasn't effectively impossible to never not be able to pass one of the given options.
EXCEPT pure offense skills
Wow, it's almost like certain situations rewarded you for being non-combative

>You can just go back later. Wow
Wow, you still need to invest in that skill.
Wow, sometimes you need supplies right away or early supplies can help you out
Wow, you're a fucking retard who doesn't understand the concept of tools and items having varying power curves based on the stage of the game.

>>158229905
>So forgoing damage and other useful perks until you can put them all into one thing isn't crippling yourself?
What you describe is power gaming.

And the same could also be said of fo3 and NV.

We however were discussing roleplaying, not power gaming.

>>158229625
>You had to be a bad ass at talking to people, fixing your shit, lockpicking, and a gun skill.
I never put points into Speech, Lockpick, Repair or Guns.
Speech doesn't mean shit, I can forgo a bit of shitty loot or just find a key, I can make/use Weapon Repair kits or use a vendor to repair my stuff and I don't use Guns.

It's like you've never played the game.

>>158230105
So what you're saying it "yes, it does, in fact, cripple you"?

Mind you, YOU are the one who said to do it, not me.

>>158230105
Do you even understand what power gaming is?
Waiting 3 levels to dump all your points into Melee is power gaming.
Waiting 41 levels to dump 4 levels into Science isn't. It's retarded.

>>158229668
>level up multiple skills to 100 by level 10ish, even at medium INT.
That's just a straight up lie.

>>158230125
I too can lie on the internet and say I gimped myself to make my point look better.

I cut my fingers off and typed this entire thing with my toes.
>fingers dont matter for shit, i can forgo picking something up or typing something to make myself look superior in a post on an korean pop music vocaloid site

>>158230071
>How is SPECIAL gating perks and abilities different from skills?
1. There are level gates, meaning no stat dumpng like Fo3/NV.

2. Since there are no skills, many of the things skills did were moved into SPECIAL, making SPECIAL far more powerful then it was in Fo3/NV.

3. Since higher level perks are tied to needing higher level SPECIAL, you actually have to SPECIALize in a SPECIAL stat in Fallout 4, whereas you didn't in Fo3/NV.

4. due to the large changes in the leveling system in Fallout 4, its effectively impossible, even through power gaming, to get even 1/3 of the perks needed to max out everything. whereas in Fo3/NV, you could easily get every SPECIAL to 10, and every skill to 100, with minimal effort.

>These are balance issues, not design issues. Does the fact that an exploding minigun trivializes 99% of fallout 4 make it automatically bad?
No, but that's not a fundamental flaw of the system.

The flaw of skills being shit due to the ever increase use of player based controls is a fundamental flaw with the skill system.

Which is why every modern RPG has gotten rid of skills.

>EXCEPT pure offense skills
Actually, pure offensive skills had a number of checks themselves.

>Wow, you still need to invest in that skill.
Which isnt a problem in Fo3/NV since the game throws so many skill points at you

>Wow, sometimes you need supplies right away or early supplies can help you out
Not really, shit was everywhere in fo3/Nv. You had to be literally braindead to not have enough supplies to power an army.

>Wow, you're a fucking retard who doesn't understand the concept of tools and items having varying power curves based on the stage of the game.
So says the man who wants to be able to get skills to 100 at game start, thus nullifying those tools varying power level throughout the game.

What hippocracy

>>158230263
>So what you're saying it "yes, it does, in fact, cripple you"?
No, because being cripples would mean your at a massive disadvantage that the game is nearly impossible.

Which is not the case if you skip over perks that don't apply to your build, and waiting for them to unlock.

>>158230428
Not even lying, I just don't enjoy taking the easy route and, you know, role playing.

It's almost like people play differently to you, you casual, which you obviously are.
You can't even deny it if you think I'm lying about picking different skills than you and not going the easy route which you're so set as the ONLY option in the game.

>>158230838
>No, because being cripples would mean your at a massive disadvantage that the game is nearly impossible.
No, it just means you're at a massive disadvantage.
If you're going to not level up any damage perks until 41 to get all of Science, you ARE at a disadvantage.
It being "nearly impossible" as a requirement is just hyperbole so that I seem unreasonable.

>if you skip over perks that don't apply to your build
You never said anything about perks that don't apply to your build.

>>158230883
You'll forgive me if i mess up typing with my toes.

A casual would obviously go the easy route and just use voice to text, but im obviously not lying about using different methods of typing and going the easy route

>>158230428
>I too can lie on the internet and say I gimped myself to make my point look better.
The fuck are you talking about. That unless they play in the most meta, min-max build, their decisions aren't valid? This isn't a e-sport. You were defending FO4 for "allowing roleplay with SPECIAL" but now you're attacking him for roleplaying rather than doing that "Power Gaming" shit.

>>158230408
>>158229668
Wasn't even paying attention
You can technically level up two. Two skills to max level, if you level nothing else at all.

>>158230709
>1. There are level gates, meaning no stat dumpng like Fo3/NV.
Level gates for SPECIAL? None
FNV had Gates for perks too.

>2. Since there are no skills, many of the things skills did were moved into SPECIAL, making SPECIAL far more powerful then it was in Fo3/NV.
And also more disposable. And occupying the same role as skills

>Since higher level perks are tied to needing higher level SPECIAL, you actually have to SPECIALize in a SPECIAL stat in Fallout 4, whereas you didn't in Fo3/NV.
And how's that different to SPECIALIZING in a skill?

>The flaw of skills being shit due to the ever increase use of player based controls is a fundamental flaw with the skill system.
you're the same guy who was bitching about skill checks, weren't you.

>What hippocracy
Kek. Look, poll results are in, 9-3 at the moment (I voted wrong by mistake). I'll just ignore this shit from now on and, you know, do productive stuff like fixing bethesda's damn animations, while you suck Todd's cock. Keep paying for that DLC!

>>158230838
Again, level 41 for 4 perks to unlock.
I dare you to beat survival leveling once every 10 levels.

>>158231161
Is this you admitting you're an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about?
It's hard to tell because you're obviously typing with your ass.

>>158231162
>I dare you to beat survival leveling once every 10 levels.
Now this I'd like to see.
>>158230838
Go on, anon.
Stream it, prove us wrong.

Oh boy, whats next? People start arguing that new vegas had a better character creator and the addition of a sprint function is mindless pondering?

This shit has been going on for every week since the fucking game came out and now we see one of our resident modders taking his side and being extremely vocal about it. You know why buff and tranwiz dont do this shit kos? Because if they did the answer would be
IF YOU'RE SUCH A GOOD MODDER THAT YOU THINK YOU SHOULD NAMEFAG WHEN POSTING THINGS UNRELATED TO YOUR MODS, WHY DON'T YOU MAKE A MOD THAT FIXES IT AND YOU AND ALL OF EVERYONE CAN SIT AROUND AND CIRCLE JERK ABOUT IT?

You wont, and it's the same reason there's only 3 or 5 people on this board who makes mods, because its easier to complain.
I think I actually respect buffquad more than you now.

>>158231162
>Level gates for SPECIAL? None
The trade of being if you try to pump SPECIAL you will have no perks.

>FNV had Gates for perks too.
And only perks, and none of skills, in a game were skills were 99% of your character's power, and perks were usually gimmicks.

>And also more disposable. And occupying the same role as skills
Actually its far less disposable, since you actually need them to unlock more perks.

>And how's that different to SPECIALIZING in a skill?
Because skillpoints were limited in Fo3/NV, and you could easily get them all to 100 before reaching max level.

Indeed, since fo3/NV MADE you spend all your skills/perk points before allowing you to leave the level up screen, you always reached a point where you HAD to start dumping points into skills other then the ones relating to your build, which in turn destroyed roleplaying, and made every character homogeneous.

This doesn't exist in Fallout 4, increasing character diversity over the long terms.

>you're the same guy who was bitching about skill checks, weren't you.
I honestly have no idea what yo uare talking about.

>Kek. Look, poll results are in
You are aware that Argumentum ad populum is a fallacy right?

>I dare you to beat survival leveling once every 10 levels.
I have.

I made a build of 6-7 perks, and only leveled up those perks/the SPECIAL needed to get those perks, and beat the game just fine.

Its not my fault you suck at roleplaying and can only beat piss easy games via min-maxing and power gaming

>>158231765
You can't bitch about games you don't like now? Please, Train's grievances about this game go much, much deeper than mine.

Sorry for triggering you, but grow the fuck up, or present a better argument.

>>158231790
>I made a build of 6-7 perks, and only leveled up those perks/the SPECIAL needed to get those perks, and beat the game just fine.
On survival? Without cheesing some wounding ripper shit? Prove it.

>>158231765
>IF YOU'RE SUCH A GOOD MODDER THAT YOU THINK YOU SHOULD NAMEFAG WHEN POSTING THINGS UNRELATED TO YOUR MODS, WHY DON'T YOU MAKE A MOD THAT FIXES IT AND YOU AND ALL OF EVERYONE CAN SIT AROUND AND CIRCLE JERK ABOUT IT?
Why are you so entitled to other people's mods? Aren't you doing the same thing, complaining about other people complaining? If anything, that's worse.

This whole argument is nothing but roleplayers vs rollplayers

Roleplayers want to be able to do basically anything they want with their character, even if it doesn't actually mean anything.

Rollplayers what a far more limited system of things, where things usually matter more to your character's overall development.

Fo3/NV were more Roleplaying, Fallout 4 is like most modern RPGs(Deus ex HR/MD, Witcher, Mass Effect, etc. etc.) in that its more about rollplaying.

Neither is better then the other, and both have their good points.

>>158232151
Not when you show that you apparently have the skill to fix it. Please get off of your fat ass and start on this. Nobody cares about your fucking godzilla mod.

There are things I don't like about fallout 4 as compared to new vegas, sure. I can make basic mods. Imagine the shit storm in buffscale said the things you said. Imagine the shitstorm if buffquad said these things. But you are for some reason seen as a big cool modder and you have apparently the talent to fix this stuff and you're complaining about it.

>>158232383
I'm not namefagging and acting like hot shit. I'm complaining about pointless namefagging.
>why are you so entitled to other peoples mods
didn't say id download it.

>>158232421
Your definitions don't match the example games you've given.

>>158232918
How so?

I would want to buy Fallout 4's dlc what should I get? only the expansions? or the workshops too? are hte workshops dlc worth?

>>158233060
>are hte workshops dlc worth
only if you liked the minecraft mode
Automatron FH and Nuka Whorl are alright

>>158233237
grab the SP and save a couple bucks while having full modding capabilities.

>>158232918
Except they do.

A roleplayer would play something like NV, and would make a cowboy character who only uses the cowboy repeater, and then would take the cowboy perk to make that weapon viable in the end game, regardless of the fact that there are many other weapons in that class that are much better.

A rollplayer would play something like Fallout 4, and make a character that is just "automatic weapons only" focused. They wouldn't need perks like Grunt, or Cowboy, because they wouldn't be using something like the cowboy repeater, they would have moved up to better weapons in the same weapon class.


This is why a lot of New Vegas's perks are really gimmicky/heavily situation based. You only really get to use a bunch of them maybe 5 times in the whole game.

Fallout 4's perks(like the stuff in ME, DX, Witcher) are, on average, far more focused on broader straight upgrades.

>>158216675
Tell that to Iron Maiden.

>>158233237

The sale makes it cheaper to buy the pass than it does to buy the content DLCs individually. Just get that.

Perk system in 4 is a joke. Have you seen the weapon perks? They're all practically the same minus what is mostly boring level 4 or 5 effects. Then you have perks that are just the functions of skills broken down. Then many other perks are just adding 10% more to the exact same ability. Then there's heavy level locks on the fun abilities, it's insane. It's not better for role playing and it's redundant for rollplaying by just having you accomplish the same thing while claiming it's different and taking forever to get to any perk that'd make your character feel different. Sure, NV leads you to maxing out skills faster but Fallout 4 makes it all feel barely worth it and most are redundant in survival mode because 10% bonuses won't help and focusing on competing with broken combat means you're gonna focus on the lame perks just to stay alive a couple seconds more.

>>158233589
>A rollplayer would play something like Fallout 4, and make a character that is just "automatic weapons only" focused. They wouldn't need perks like Grunt, or Cowboy, because they wouldn't be using something like the cowboy repeater, they would have moved up to better weapons in the same weapon class.

This is the dumbest, shallowest, most pedantic nitpick to support an even worse narrative I've ever seen. We are all dumber for you posting here.

>>158234675
>This is the dumbest, shallowest, most pedantic nitpick to support an even worse narrative I've ever seen.
Hes kind of right though.

Most RPG players nowadays don't care about highly defined "roles" like only using one weapon, regardless of the weapon is good or not, simply because it fits the "role"

Most RPG players nowadays are only broad scope "role"players, picking a few broad categories, like a weapon type, and sticking with those categories, rather then specific things in that category.

>>158234896
Then they'll complain about how shallow the game is years down the road. Happened with Skyrim. Even reddit was filled with people changing their mind and bitching. But then they go buy Fallout 4.

>>158232421
>rollplayers

what the fuck am I reading?

>>158235403
You know what it is. What would you call them instead?

>>158235564
dudebros

>>158221274
will that work with up to 11 rounds loaded in the tube? I had made the longer barrel have a higher capacity, and also made a rechamber for .44 mag

>>158235725
Not him, but I would disagree

Dudebros dont even "roll"play.

Dudebros just use whatever the best weapon they can get their hands on, regardless of if they had specced into that weapon type previously.

dudebros are more power gamers then anything else.

>>158232789
>I'm complaining about pointless namefagging.
No, you're complaining about us not sucking Bethesda's dick for the shit that was Fallout 4.

New Vegas was better, that's probably why there's a separate general.

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Anyone got a link to all the Fallout 4 dlc esm files?

>>158231790
>I made a build of 6-7 perks, and only leveled up those perks/the SPECIAL needed to get those perks, and beat the game just fine
Prove it, faggot.
Outrageous claims require proof or they're not even worth bringing up.

>No one noting how nuclear missiles just fell several hours ago.
O C T O B E R
T W E N T Y
T H I R D

>>158236054
> that's probably why there's a separate general.
Not him but no.

There is a separate general because Fallout has historically had one of the most divided fanbases in gaming, and, on top of that, Obsidian has an equally dedicated vocal minority following who hates games made by anyone else.

Combined together, and you get one of the most angry, and vocal, groups on the internet, and can't stand the idea of people liking things other then what they like.

Which is why they left this general, and spammed /v/ to the point the mods made them a containment general so they would stop making /v/ even worse then it was.

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>>158236210
>/fog/
>caring about any lore at all

>>158236168
>Outrageous
>its outrageous to claim you RPed in an RPG

>>158236210
There was a couple mentions of it at the end of the last thread

>>158236459
No, it's outrageous to claim you beat Fallout 4 on Survival with only 6-7 perks.
The role-playing element is irrelevant.

Don't twist my words, you knew exactly what I meant.

>>158236210
we are going to have our own great war in a few years, there is no need to celebrate.

>>158236054
Yeah and that place is so popular we hear from them on a weekly basis because they feel the need to shitpost here about how much better the game they enjoy is.
I don't subscribe to the internet culture of getting offended because someone enjoys what you hate and you take that to mean that they must hate what you hate.

Anyways, I was merely calling out Kos, as I would and most others here would to almost any of the other modders here.

>>158236312
>this is what bethesdrones actually believe
>meanwhile saying anything bad about the perk system triggers the general beyond belief
>mention that radiant quests sending you to dlc locations is pretty stupid (which was also an issue in skyrim) and earn a title of an Obsidrone almost immediately
Of course, not to diminish the role of that "Courier" namefag I've heard about who'd go on ranting that anyone liking fallout 4 was mentally handicapped before the whole thread split happened.


Not going hurr durr both sides are equally bad here, but damn are you people biased sometimes.

>>158236624
maybe in months, days or possibly in a few hours.

>>158236678
hate what you love, not hate what you hate.

but you know what i mean.

>>158236678
>I was merely calling out Kos
No, you weren't merely anything, you were getting ass-ravaged about 4 being a better game which it isn't.

>>158236942
in your opinion

>>158236678
>Yeah and that place is so popular we hear from them on a weekly basis because they feel the need to shitpost here about how much better the game they enjoy is.
I wish this would stop because I want to see if this general will die after Skyrim Special Edition releases, and if so - how long it will take.

>>158237064
No, it's a fact.
Just look back over what you've typed.
That's not "merely" anything.

>>158205814
Can someone help me decide between NCR and House? What can House realisticly accomplish with possesion of Hoover dam? Isn't New Vegas bound to be crushed by both the legion and the ncr eventually? And whats to say another Benny won't ruin Houses plans?

>>158236782
not him, but what if I go to /cfog/ and say the gameplay is shit compared to 4.
They totally wont be triggered beyond belief even though it is a fact.

>>158236942
where in any of my posts did i say "fallout 4 is better than new vegas" the closest thing was me saying that new vegas did some things better than 4. Theres that internet culture you all have in which "If he likes something I despise that means he doesn't like something that I enjoy."

Please quit shitposting

>>158237220
>the gameplay is shit compared to 4
>even though it is a fact
It's not.
The gunplay is better, but that's it.
The overall gameplay is worse.

It's not a pure FPS, anon, though at this point it might as well be.

>>158237183
if you choose the nu cuck republic, ur gay

'nuff said

>>158237404
Why is are bethesda generals so shitpost-y?

>>158237220
Probably because gameplay consists of a few elements. Enemies are smarter for sure, but they are also bullet sponges at higher levels. Now, does that make them good/better?
Please note that this is just an example and I'm not basing the entire gameplay on "enemies" in this case.

>>158237374
I would rather play a generic fps with rpg elements than a desert walking/reading simulator. Whats next you call me a casual for liking a game that has a better feel over a game that has a better story.

Please, we all would be happier if you quit shitposting.

>>158237698
I don't know, I think I just like autism simulators and it sates my thirst a little to walk around an obvious wasteland building myself cozy places to sleep and then if anyone show up to those places I make them fight to death against each other and the winner gets to travel the wasteland on supply routes for the rest of his life.

>>158237220
>where in any of my posts did i say "fallout 4 is better than new vegas"
Right here: >>158237220
> but what if I go to /cfog/ and say the gameplay is shit compared to 4.
They totally wont be triggered beyond belief even though it is a fact.

Fuck off, faggot.

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>>158237690

>>158238005
>I would rather play a generic fps with rpg elements than a desert walking/reading simulator
Then go and do that.
Personal preference is not a fact.

>Whats next you call me a casual for liking a game that has a better feel over a game that has a better story
This is "muh atmosphere" from Fallout 3 all over again, so yes.
Yes, I would.

>>158238036
this is my last post on the subject, i need to work on stuff instead of arguing with shitposters.

Just because I say "x does this one aspect better than y" doesn't mean I think x is the best thing since gravy on toast.
Watch this, I'm going to blow your mind. Fallout new vegas has a better system for talking to npcs than fallout 4. Fallout 4 has a better survival system than new vegas. Fallout 2 has better gameplay than Fallout 1, Fallout 1 is my favorite in the series.
Brotherhood of steel, just from what we have would have been a mistake. Same with van bueren. The proposed Obsidian made fallout mmo was a terrible idea. I prefer the first kotor game over the second. I still enjoy other games by the developer.

>>158238676
>The proposed Obsidian made fallout mmo was a terrible idea.
Not him but it was Interplay, not Obsidian

>>158238676

>Fallout 4 has a better survival system than new vegas

Not him, but what?

>>158238676
>Fallout 4 has a better survival system than new vegas
lmao

>>158238676
>I prefer the first kotor game over the second
>Fallout 4 has a better survival system than new vegas
And -I- was shitposting?
Fuck off.

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>You didn't rescue to the synths from the Institute
>Talking to Desdemona aborts you from the faction and makes them all hostile towards you
>Simply not talking to Desdemona anymore keeps everybody friendly

I hate this awkward shit. It reminds me of my teenage years where I would avoid talking to my parents for a length of time because I knew the conversations would be sour and simply avoiding them kept everything okay.

>>158240310
Just kill the railroad

>>158240398
This

>>158240398
>>158240518
but it's such a convenient safehouse that you can fast travel to directly. It has a shop, a doctor, and even a place to store your power armor. It's fantastic.

>>158240667
Diamond City has all that too, or you could just build your own little safehouse with all that, one of the benefits of the minecraft shit.

>>158239782
Not him, but I prefer KOTOR 1 over KOTOR 2, as well as NWN 1 over NWN 2

>>158239782
>>Fallout 4 has a better survival system than new vegas
not that guy but as far as making the game tougher it actually is

nvs made more sense with liquor and some food making you thirsty as opposed to chems

>>158222559
Yes it's called the explosive shotgun, you can trade .38 for 12 gauge at most vendors

>>158241752
>takes a sip from his trusty Vault 13 canteen

>>158242069
oh god i forgot about the whole
>preorder from gamestop and you get a slight advantage over people who didnt
>now buy the dlc so you get all the preorder bonuses

I feel like Bethesda missed a golden opportunity by adding Artillery and not adding an option to have your Power Armor launched to your location.

Having a suit of power armor drop from the sky, then hopping in it, would be amazingly satisfying and incredibly cool.

It would also make the Power Armor work better as a "time to bring in the big guns" mechanic, since you don't need to fast travel twice to go pick it up.

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>>158245894

>Fast traveling ever

>>158245894
I could have easily seen that as an option with vertibird travel.
Have them drop you a set of power armor you left with them.

Maybe the Institute could teleport you a set if they'd actually made the Institute power armor from the concept art

Any other faction doing it would be ridiculous.

>>158245989
Immersive Fast Travel is the best Fast Travel. Have populated areas have some working vehicles, you can take them out to a place. But they leave you there.

>>158246406

I don't see why loading them into an artillery cannon and launching it is so out of the question.
They take no fall damage from any height, and it would look cool as fuck.

Could even have it trigger the flame jet leg module if it's installed.

>>158246581
I could see it working if there was a quest attached.
If they could just do it out of the blue, it would feel phoned in.

>>158245894
Oh shit son there's a mod for that.
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18591/?

>>158237183
Independent
Fuck em both.
Build an empire with the help of the local factions.

So I guess since all the dlc is done, what do people hope happens next with fallout??

>>158249421
Pagliarulo is fired

That's all I ask for

>>158249421
Nothing ever.
Let it die.

Also comics.

>>158249421
They sell the IP to Obsidian.

>>158249938
>sell it to a dying company with 2 of the 3 people that made it great gone

>>158249421
Pick up Arcanum instead.

>>158249938
In what fucking universe can Obsidian afford to buy Fallout off Bethesda?

>>158250719
A better one.

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>>158250775

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how do I get mannequins like this

>>158254402
holy fug give me the link to those weapon racks

muh dick

>>158254402
>>158254468
It's like neither of you even tried
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/5080/?

Is it me or did graphics go backwards from Skyrim? Specifically when it comes to clothing and weapons. Everything feels so cartoony with goofy proportions.

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>decide to try melee only build for the first time
>ghouls utterly wreck my shit

How do you guys deal with the packs? With a gun they're no problem, but with melee they like to stun me out of a swing, swarm me, and then go into a kill animation.

>>158257158
block the first attack, melee them, let your big league points let you cut down five of them at once.

>>158257158
Realize that just because you're doing a melee build, doesn't mean you can't use a gun.

>>158257217

If only I wasn't level 6 using an unupgraded machete.

>>158257712

Well yeah, but the guns I have are dogshit too. Eventually I got them with Molotov cocktails and hit and runs.

>>158257158
you gotta dark souls that shit and block/counter

>>158257865
An automatic pipe weapon is good enough for ghouls, dogs, and other low-level enemies.

Anyone have a good mod so I can save in Survival ? Had to redo my game and lost the previous one. thanks my mans

So who would a overboss/raider king side with in far harbor? Or should I just try to wipe out everyone.

>>158232789
So it's my responsibility to fix the game? Good to know, I wonder when Bethesda will come calling. Get your head out of your ass.

>There are things I don't like about fallout 4 as compared to new vegas, sure. I can make basic mods. Imagine the shit storm in buffscale said the things you said. Imagine the shitstorm if buffquad said these things. But you are for some reason seen as a big cool modder and you have apparently the talent to fix this stuff and you're complaining about it.
I didn't realize the idea that FO4 is a shit game was so controversial. You've whipped yourself into a frenzy over nothing at all. I didn't realize being a modder meant I had a responsibility to act a certain way or another.

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>>158254402
>Stuffed humans as mannequins

Count Mecha would be pleased.

>level 80
>finished all the content and all the DLC content
>still never found a better weapon than my double shot Combat Rifle

It's always just bonus damage for one fucking enemy type.

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>>158259705

I didn't find an explosive automatic weapon until level 90 something

>>158259705
>It's always just bonus damage for one fucking enemy type.
I don't know who thought that was a good enough to put it in but they need to be shot with a fully charged Two Shot Gauss Rifle.

>>158259705
that's why I installed the wonderful thing known as "Legendary Modification"
for the rather expensive price of a fuckload of rare materials, you too can modify your weapons to whatever you want and skip bethesda's MMO grinding bullshit.

Is playing in Survival worth it ?

>>158260079

I would have liked the legendary system if it were legendary parts and you could mix and match to make weapons suited to your playstyle, and no two players weapons would be quite the same.

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http://pastebin.com/ZsA4bNad

Thinking of punching out a new patch soon. How do the changes look so far?

>>158260407
But that would be a good idea, Buff.
That would also require effort and I just don't think they have it in them.

I'd like to have a Two Shot with Rapid on a Laser Rifle, it'd make it worthwhile past level 30.

>rename Modern Firearms - 2.41.esp to just Modern Firearms.esp so that Modern Sidearms reads it as a master
>it now unequips all my apparel, including my pipboy, when I activate the vault door controls
I'm not sure I understand mods. It's definitely Modern Firearms, because it still happens with Modern Sidearms not active.

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>>158260535

Laser rifle is actually one of the more fun weapons to mod because of all the crap you can mix and match.

Like auto-scatter. That's basically a gatling laser in a smaller package...with limited ammo capacity and obscene recoil, but still.

I wish more weapons would let you mix and match stuff like on the laser weapons, especially with plasma. Imagine plasma with auto splitter. Green balls everywhere.

>>158260938
>Laser rifle is actually one of the more fun weapons to mod because of all the crap you can mix and match.
Of course, it's very fun.
Without mods, it just doesn't do enough damage to be practical.

>Imagine plasma with auto splitter
And Rapid because it needs to be as mental as possible.

Although thinking about modding the Plasma Rifle reminded me that there's no upgraded Flamer attachment.
Fucking why?
Everything else gets an upgraded version, why only have one awful Flamer attachment?

>>158260535
>>158260407
That's exactly what they did though, legendary is just a mod.

>>158261230
Can't take it off without mods.
That's the problem.

Any way to have multiple on the one gun?

>>158261301
Get Unique Uniques or More Uniques. Legendary effects in game occupy one slot, but you can make regular mods legendary too, like Kremvah's.

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>>158261180

Yeah, I never quite understood that either. They could have easily made an advanced plasma flamer that increases the range or something. Its ridiculously fucking short.

There's probably already a mod that does this I bet.

I had visited almost all locations in FO4

Why they are so forgettable? none really stands out

>>158261782
Because this game is garbage.

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Give me ONE reason why you're still playing Bethesdashit when the REAL Fallout games are back

>>158262517
sex mods

>>158262169

I don't really understand why you make mods for a game you don't like.

Are you making this stuff for some kind of portfolio? Just killing time?

>>158262603
Because CK is fun.
It's like I'm in an abusive relationship with a bad boy and I think I can fix him but he just hurts me more.

>>158262543
which are missing from F4

>>158262956
Hope for sex mods

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>>158262956
>missing

Not exactly
But things at the moment are a little janky

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/68016-crazy6987-sex-animation/

>>158262773

Oh. Personally I find the CK dreadfully boring, I just use it for implementing armors. Doesn't help that animu hair mod required me spent 12 hours doing the same thing over and over and over and over...

>>158261772
Plasma doesn't have the same properties as fire though. The shorter range could make sense.

>>158263620
Ey Buff you still doing babe cages?

For anybody who has used the "gunner cages in settlement" legendary farming set up, does it work with raider cages? I'm hoping to farm up some low level raiders (I'm level 22) for a neverending shotgun, but I'm not sure if it works. The place is getting swarmed by raiders, but not a single legendary raider yet. Did get hit by a legendary super mutant though, for no reason.

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Any idea which modder would do this and what mods are temporarily unavailable?

Hey, I have the bug where I can't speak to Preston to get help building the teleporter, so I finished the quest via the console.
Any way I can teleport to the institute ?
Thanks

>>158264557
Apollodown, and Dragon Combat Overhaul and Civil War Overhaul

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>>158263952

I forgot about that actually.

Been a little lazy last few days, Im gonna go ahead and start on some stuff. I'll try babe cages first. Or actually I might just make it an invisible rug or something, so you can place them wherever.

The idea of having women dancing all over your settlements as entertainment kinda reminds me of the scene with the One-eyes in the Thief and the Cobbler.

>>158264826
>THOSE TITS

>>158265247

All of One-Eyes waifus are really thick and busty.

And he also likes to sit on them as human furniture as you can see there. At the end of the film they get revenge on him and [/spoiler]All sit on him at the same time, crushing him to death under their 20 giant asses[/spoiler]

>the main quest is so bugged i have to do another character
TODD

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>>158265438
>All sit on him at the same time, crushing him to death under their 20 giant asses
That's how I wanna go.

>>158259705
>did all the dlc content
>somehow didn't get the splatter cannon or the kiloton rifle

>>158264557
Jesus Christ, what a fucking faggot

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>Checking LL's sexy screens thread

WHATS WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAAAAAAAAACE

LADY LOOKS LIKE TRANNY ET

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>>158237183
I'd rather go independent but if I had to choose in order to ensure a propserous future for New Vegas, I'd go with House:
1. He predicted the war and was off by only a single day
2. He somehow managed to save New Vegas with his defense system which he himself built
3. Hes the only one in the game who bothered to pull your ass out of a ditch when you were shot and left to die.
4. Hes the only one in the game who genuinely cares about New Vegas itself and since he has no ties outside of the Lucky 88 he'll do whatever it takes, kill whoever it takes to ensure it's survival.
5. Hes somewhat "immortal" for the time being and you can bet he'll be protecting NV for many years to come.
6. House is the only person left alive whose smart enough to truly utilize the dam to its fullest potential (yourself excluded since you're not going independent). In fact he goes as far as to say the he wishes to revitalize humanity and become greater than they were pre war.

If you DONT give a shit about New Vegas:
NCR has proven themselves to be incapable of holding down the Mojave...let alone a dam. They spread themselves too thin and get punished for it every time. On top of that I'm not entierly sure who "runs" the NCR, was it that president dude I saved at the dam? Who elected him? When was this election?

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>>158266004
Whats with the granny panties?

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>>158266570

Im checking the thread and this guy keeps posting his waifu in random poses, everyone is telling him to spoiler his waifu, lol

>>158264557
This makes me ashamed to be gay.

>>158266721
>this guy keeps posting his waifu in random poses, everyone is telling him to spoiler his waifu
Sounds familiar...

>>158266004
The worst part is that he spams that ugly shit every other day.

Also
>Someone uploaded screenshots of my character
lol

>>158266962
At least the other horrible influences aren't getting to you.

>>158264557
#Iwanttodestroycivilization would have been more apt AND concise.

>>158266721
Sounds like the perfect board for some of the anons in here.

>>158266721
Hey Buff. Do you know where I can find loli mods?

>>158267706

All the Fallen

>>158265348

Is there a creation mod out yet? The vanilla one is garbage, and I can't waifu without a better system.

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>>158268083

Just download a preset you like and tweak it desu

There is this though

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18998/?tab=3&selected_game=1151&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Ffallout4%2Fajax%2Fmodimages%2F%3Fid%3D18998%26user%3D1%26gid%3D1151&pUp=1

Is there any reason not to use Mod Organizer?

>>158268263
You have to go through a shortcut to launcher your game.

Uhh...

Takes up more space on your hard drive?

>>158268249
Has anyone used it? Is it good?

>>158267915
Fuck, I'm on the FBI watchlist now. Thanks buff.

>>158268402
MO it is then.

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>>158268439

I think it just adds new face types. I dunno how people can make ugly waifus with FO4 desu. Nora's preset is already very attractive.

If your waifu was really fat, would she get off on being called a cute tubby piggy?