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Meme edition

>What's new?

Samuro, an abundance of new skins, and Heroes Brawl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuA_9E_JoxU

http://battle.net/heroes/game/heroes-brawl/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIordfmxqQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RJLgaTEJ4c

>Latest patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20328243/patch-notes-october-18-2016-10-18-2016

>Where do I find you SAMURO-hating faggots?
/join /vg/

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked. It's not worth it.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

Last time on /hotsg/: >>157916043
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deadest game in existence
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>Artanis doesnt take Reflective Parry and Suppression Pulse
>vs a Raynor/Sonya/Hammer team

wew, I wonder why he died so much
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Reminder Li Ming was not OP on released Chen and other mobile warriors hard countered her
Reminder Leoric was not OP on release if he fed you could push 5v4 while getting an ever increasing xp lead
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>>158194961
dedest thread in existence
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>>158196006
>Leoric wasn't op because if he was played by a retard he would lose
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>>158197265
>Warrior with no cc
>OP
Leoric was never good accept it
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>>158197367
Stop posting
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>>158197367
Leoric carried me to 4.5k hotdogs. Stop posting about things you have zero concept of.
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>>158197387
>>158197738
Beating bad players does not mean a hero is OP
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>>158197839
You're one of the bad players that get beaten.
Prove me wrong, post your double grandmaster.
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>>158197940
>Post s2 rank to prove you didnt lose to pre-launch Leoric
?????????

How about you explain how just walk away from him: the hero was good
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>>158197839
I said stop posting
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Post yfw finally a Mengsk hero
It's Valerian
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so the play 3 games as a class quests are gone?
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>People play like shit in plat/diam
>There are bronze silver and gold under that
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>>158198002
Not only did he have enough damage to kill most squishies before they could run away, when you run away from him you lost a keep.
Samuro is arguably the easiest hero to walk away from ever. He's also the best by far. 80% Winrate at lvl 20.
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>>158198684
>enough damage to kill most squishies before they could run away
Did you know squishies can start running away before Leoric gets into melee range?
>when you run away from him you lost a keep
When he dicks around soloing buildings he loses his core
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>>158198918
>>158198684
>no u
>NO U
>*teleports behind you*
>*it was an illusion*

thats what you two sound like.
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>>158198918
>half your team backs off from the enemy tank
>you front line is cut off
Great solution.
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>>158198998
I SAID STOP IT
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>>158198998
>Squishies belong in the frontline
??????
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Your next post will be "I was only pretending to be retarded."
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I was only pretending to be retarded
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I was only pretending to be retar-OH?!
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So ded that only one samefag posting here
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vikings buffs when?
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>>158201759
Hopefully never
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Does the first win of the day bonus affect gold from quests?
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Should I just give up on playing certain roles in QM? I am so tired of losing, but like every tank game goes pretty well.
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>>158204098
>he didnt buy samuro for 15k to stomp in qm
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http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/92-samuro?filter-ptr=1#idhdgdjdpdqdndcBA
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page 10?
not on my watch
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>mfw muradin with thunderclap heal against samuro and chen
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>tfw when some idiot messages you some hateful bile and then blocks you before you can respond.

Seriously, how fucking immature is this player base?
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how come it's exclusively 4stacks that can't build 4 man death balls so I can pick a specialist
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>>158210836
I've noticed a lot more korean streams for hots on twitch, is it alive in asian?
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>>158210997
didn't mean to quot there
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>>158210717
the last word is the winner. stay mad.
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>it's a "my team is 4 french fucks who stick together like glue vs a KT with Pyroblast" episode
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NERF SAMURO
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>>158212614
They are nerfing him on tuesday, so just don't play until then.
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>>158212614
Play HL he is 100% banned there
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tracer is pretty fun
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>>158214163
I like that you say pretty fun as though you just discovered her, even though you have a pay skin for her.
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>>158214163
>using the retardo skin on Malcuckion
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>>158214263
no i didnt
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>>158214163

>anon gets MVP for once
>In QM
>comes to /vg/ to spread the news

Fuck off you bronze tier shitter. No one gives a fuck.
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>>158214857
wew lad

watch that edge there pal
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>>158214857
im unranked on hots, but diamond in league :^)
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>>158214163
>he doesn't know blizzard gives you a higher random chance at getting mvp if you have a pay skin on your hero
literally bronze
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is this the reason this game is shit?

finally reached 40 play some draft...
my team:
-tassadar,zeratul (protos premade fans)
-cho'gall(spanish premade...)
-medivh (me)

their team:
-morales
-malfurion
-sylvanas(all except her were premade)
-rexxar
-nova

Result:
>sylvanas rekt bot
>malfurion and rexxar with 0 deaths
>tassadar finished 8k supp
>morales with 54k

are all cho'gall idiots who just finished tutorial?
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How the fuck do you get gud at Samuro?
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>>158208523
ok this made laught
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>>158218460
>playing medivh when solo q'ing
you deserve every lose
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>>158219341
you are right..
JUST the fact that is unranked...
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>>158218460
1- cho'gal is undertuned garbage
2- tassadar solo heal vs two extremely strong healers
also
>just reached level 40
>and playing medivh
you were probably garbage too
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>>158212614

>Samuro is bad
>+
>You are worse
>=
>WAHH NERF SAMURO

Can't wait till the buyers remorse kicks in.
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>>158218460

>Enemy has Sylvanas
You lose. The faggotry is uncounterable, and she JUST SO HAPPENS to have an escape THAT GOES THROUGH WALLS

Yeah, that's fucking balanced, let a hero that can solo-take camps and shit without even taking a lick of damage HAVE AN ESCAPE SO SHE CAN KEEP DOING IT.

Zzzz
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>>158217932
send proof
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>>158220286
It's blizzard, the maker of casual games for shitters, what more proof do I need?
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>>158219625
implying that medivh is hard or what?

i admit i am not above average. but neither garbage like the fking spanish
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>>158220857
Medivh has the lowest winrate in the game because he actually takes a full brain to use effectively and he's shit.
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>>158220563

>It's a casual game for shitters!
>Shitters can't do well
>Blizz doesn't cater to them
>Signed: a shitter who can't improve.

I'll bite the bait though
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>>158218839

You don't. He's a bad hero.

>Clones give quest stacks to enemies
>If you don't take Illusion meme gimmick micro skills build, you're literally one of the easiest things to kill.
>Despite advancing strikes, people can and will walk away from you, and if you chase them, they'll likely kill you.
>Melee range
>Will get the Nova "BAD TO NOOBS, BAD TO RANKED, GOTTA NERF IT TO OBLIVION" treatment in 2 days

If you can't "git gud" while his mirror image acts as a disjoint, a cleanse, and an evasive, then you might as well put a sticky note over him in character select. He's only going to get worse. Blizz never buffs stealthies. Ever.
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>>158222174
shitters do better in hots than they do in other mobas
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>>158220857
>implying that medivh is hard or what?
There's a reason why he's 10k and labeled very hard, he takes forethought and knowing what's gonna go down next to make use of his kit
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>>158222737

desu I did better in Dawngate than HoTS.
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>>158222960
any game that isn't lol or dota is a literally who that nobody even knows exists
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>>158222960
Dawngate was far and away the best game of the genre. And getting commendations would award you with heroes or skins instead of nothing.
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Can somebody post that Dehaka image that looks like a news report about his stacks?
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>>158223096

People know HoN though.

>>158223231

This. That, and Dawngate even had dynamic surrenders! Shit's nuts
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>>158222880
see>>158222737
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>>158223231

>And getting commendations would award you with heroes or skins instead of nothing.

No wonder EA killed it. The eSports douchebags that'd not spend a dime on skins would have them all because fans would suck their dick.

That, and the caustic players wouldn't vote for anybody but themselves, so pubs wouldn't get it unless they were damn near / actively 1v5ing the enemy team and winning.
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>>158223386
And the comic that you could vote for the direction it would take which would take you around to develop their characters and influence what kind of skins you wanted in the game.
The role system was really great too. HotS is fun because I don't have to worry about being a shitter who can't last-hit because I don't main characters, but I did like being able to select which playstyle I wanted to earn the most gold/exp. Supports could get extra money from harassing their opponents or the risky move of getting extra money only when they help secure kills or by popping over and killing the enemy team's workers for extra cash and to instigate fights.
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>158222649
>t.Samuro main that's terrified of incoming nerfs
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>>158224637
Yeah, the fact that his illusions start with 1k hp and deal damage to minions makes him 100x more useful than nova ever will be. Even if he get nerfed so hard that his only contribution to the game is farming camps, it brings him ahead of modern nova because he doesn't need to wait for bribe stacks.
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>>158224637

Nah. I'm someone who Bought Samuro, lost 10 games in a row with him due to ultra tryhards in QP and gave up on him.

Then played him in Brawl when he popped up FOR FUNNNN and got told to go become a quadruple amputee after the dicking we got. I'm ready to never play him again
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>>158220061
she escapes through the wall and you take the camp instead because she has 5 hp and can't fight anyone.

>balanced
don't ever use this word again

>>158225396
>breakposter is literally retarded
not surprising
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>>158225396
Oh so you're just bronze
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>>158225821

I'd likely be Bronze, yes. There's no point to try versus obvious losses, and amidst the players a select elite few smurfs that use vikings and just dodge everything / run away from everything constantly.

Can't improve, so I might as well accept being shit.

>>158225673

>Breakposter
???
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>>158223354
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>tfw someone on the other team is playing the same hero as you and they score slightly higher because their team wasn't shit but you still feel beat because it's your main
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>>158227031
Thank you anon!
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>>158227035
>you have 30k more healing than the enemy Aurial
>only because their team isn't taking any damage
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Is memefish a dead hero now?
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>>158215561
You came to the wrong place if you think anyone is impressed with your shit rank in a shit game.
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>>158228234
he honestly needs a buff, it seems like every new hero now is another counter for him
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>>158228728
fish needs to be uncleanseable, and he needs to be able to deal more damage
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>>158220857
>>158221409
medivh is so shit. I bought him because I enjoy playing more difficult heroes but his damage output is just too low. The utility is okay, scouting is great, and poly bomb will completely win you games against bads but early game with him feels depressing.
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>>158228234
Pufferfish is such a strong ability that it dies in under a second to anyone who looks in its general direction, many summons prioritize it. It's already impossible to hit anyone with it unless you take octo-grab and then it does just as much damage as any real character's ultimate ability. And it does far less damage to towers on a much longer cooldown than a lot of the newer heroes to be released.
Slime build doesn't fare much better. Talents for slime itself are super weak and you only get 1 second off the cd at level 13 or 16. Dealing extra damage doesn't really help.
Assault Egg is a cool idea but it's almost unusable until level 16 when you get stealth coming out of the egg, otherwise scouting or being so close to a fight only lets the enemy team get a whole death against you. On top of that there's a good handful of maps that don't support it at all.
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>>158229448
slime crit talent is good for chasing down and slapping to death defenseless squishies like chromie

what the fuck were they thinking with slimy end, though
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>>158228836
his pufferfish needs to be reworked too, tracer, tychus, samuro, illidan, greymane and valla, which you probably see one of those on every team, totally shut it down, tufferfish doesn't help at all and is literally useless unless you're getting it for some cheeky slow attacker that's jumping on your pufferfish every time you throw it.
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>>158229448

>Pufferfish dies if looked at
>Gazlowe's TNT shit has the biggest fanfare of all fucking time AND it takes forever to explode

>Both are nigh impossible to hit without assistance/prior setup/enemy tunnel-vision/Zarya on your team.

Guess this is why they're both F-tier?
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>>158230276
>tracer, tychus, samuro, illidan, greymane and valla
Oh noo, 6 characters counter murky, better buff him!
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>>158229806
It would instantly be a pretty okay talent if it just kept the area around the corpse slimed for a while, as a weaker version of chromie's slowing field that's affected by the size/strength talents.

>>158230318
TNT is garbage too, but I like that there are actually talents out there that try and make it useable/rewarding. You get extra charges and each bomb that hits deals extra damage for each target/summon inside on top of giving you 2 free turrents instantly. Not that you'll ever hit anyone with it, but if you do that's a ton of free damage and cd off your ultimate/bombs.
Pufferfish talents are all just trying to mitigate how awful it is by default.
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>>158230621
6 heroes literally stop murky from doing anything at all with no effort, that's terrible and yes he needs a buff
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>>158230318
If only Gaz had something like Zarya's ult to help him set up his bombs. Wouldn't that be great?
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>>158231672

>Grav-o-bomb
>Reliable setup
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>>158232071
If you can't land difficult shots, it's ok to stick to the easier heroes.
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>>158229131
If you just buff his damage, he becomes like every other character. His deal is overwhelming utility.
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>>158231672
I just think if your skill has no chance to ever hit someone without your ultimate, it should just be made part of the ultimate.

>>158232395
I think so too, if his Q did any more damage he'd just be Gul'dan.
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>>158232264
Shit has no range. It is reliable only if the enemy team is looking past you.
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>>158232071
Jaina's ring of frost takes 1.5 seconds to go off and that is a telegraphed small ring area and people still manage to hit that, and it had about the same cast range. Grav-o-bomb is a lot easier to land.

Gaz isn't bad, he is played about the same amount as Tyrande and has a higher winrate in master/diamond. He's pretty easy to play I don't see what much you would buff about him without making him insane.
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>>158221409
>>158222880
One thing about Medivh is that your team also needs to know how to play with Medivh, like using your vision and portals.
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>>158232264

When every hero is difficult, who's the easiest?
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>>158232860
>put out a portal to save a nigger
>they just ignore it and keep trying to run and end up dying
literally no one in qm ever touches my portals for some reason, even if said portal will save their ass.
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>>158233398

As the worst player in HoTS, I can safely say that most people ignore things put on the ground/deployables because most deployables are "GET OUT OF THERE BEFORE WE DIE", and Medivh is so rarely seen, that people just ignore his shit.

It's a psychological thing.
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Which skin is best skin. My nominee is Super Sonya.
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>>158237745
N'zoth Alarak
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>>158237745
vikings master skin
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>>158237724
Is that naga thing rubbing his nipple?
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>Murky's Passive now always lets him keep at least 1 HP for 3 seconds if he loses more than 50% of his max HP in less than 2 seconds
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Why do I keep playing this shit?
At this point is like heroine or cocaine.
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>>158237724
Is that a Naga vampire?
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>win 10 out of 10 TL placements
>placed in diamond 5
ahahah, ez :D
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>>158239048
naga vampire in hots WHEN!?
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>>158239048
Why does that ice cream have a nose ring
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>>158233398
can't expect people that won't clear gazlowe's turrets to be able to handle portals.

>>158237745
master lili. not only does it look good burning 10k for a master skin for a really easy 2k character is levels of irony few can comprehend.
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>>158238249
Do you know how quickly Murky regenerates health?
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>>158239153
Is a Horde ice cream.
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>>158237745
Mecha Tassadar
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>>158238249
>safety bubble has been removed
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>>158239425
I know. Better kill him slowly then ;^)
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>>158240901
Dps slowly. And I mean fucking slow.
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>be leoric
>entomb 2 people
>enemy team is spooked and the panic ults come out
>sunder is to the side of thrall hitting no one
it's the best being skellyman
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>>158241627
Yeah. So what?
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>>158227031

While he's not my jam, Dehaka is so underrated because of this. Moreso than other tanks there's always going to be people who blow everything on Dehaka.
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>Someone at Blizzard play-tested Samuro and thought, yeah he's fine.
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>>158244361
>"hey boss, his Q basically removes all CC and poison effects, should we maybe patch that real quick?"
>"LUL just git gud Kappa"
>"so we're leaving it in?"
>"of course! duhhhhhh"
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>>158244361
>Samuro was the first hero they designed.
>Went through dozens of kit changes
>Somehow this was the most balanced and acceptable kit.

How fucking bad were the other ones?
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I finally found a tank I actually enjoy playing.
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>>158244771
>Critical Strikes had 5% chance to randomly deal 99% of a hero's max health as damage
>Mirror Images had full damage and full health, dealt AoE damage when destroyed
>Wind Walk healed for 30% max health and removed all CC
>Advancing Strikes had a toggle button for tracking, which was given to Zeratul for his Shadow Assault heroic
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>>158245084
Her? I love her, but that's because I love playing Tank.
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>>158245102
no way, sauce?
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>>158244771
that's this game in a nutshell
>"hey guys it the first character we made!!!11!!"
>it's an imbalanced, buggy release half a decade later
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>Only level 15, not played long at all
>Play the game extremely casually, a game here and there to complete dailies
>QM is literally just who has the best Samuro, and if you don't have a Samuro its basically insta lose

Extremely frustrating.
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>>158245084
i dont understand how to fight this tank
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>>158246991
Why you don't get samuro?
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>>158247919
Ignore her
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>>158247919
You ignore her.
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>>158247953

I don't have 15k unfortunately.
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>>158247919
>0damage
>.25 second stun
> a slow too i guess
just walk past her
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>>158247919
You just ignore you and let her have her way with you.
You let her slow you by 80%,
You let her toss you around every 2 seconds,
You let her blind you every now and then,
And you let her throw her shield at your big slutty face.
Oh, and you let her never die because of all her healing and shields.

Aside from all that, she does no damage and just CCs everything forever without dying.
Just murder her team, then focus her.
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>>158247919
put all your damage into her
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>>158226017
>can't/ won't improve
You can always improve.
Started at silver 2 last season.
Now I'm diamond.

Playing with a diamond friend in unranked really helped me see what good players were doing and how to punish bad players.
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i did it reddit the first heal slut to get morales to 20
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>>158251390
kys
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>HotS will never have a hero like Silencer
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>>158251390
How do you play such a shit hero for so long
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>>158252535
don't you say one word about ma waifu
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>>158252642
your waifu is an eyebrow-less beaner freak
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>>158252758
Why does she have no eyebrows anyway?
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>>158253426
My guess, the designer for her model was looking at her face up close the whole time and from that distance the eyebrows looked fine, but once you add in distance+that shine that everything in-game seems to have the brow hair just blends into her brown spic-tone skin. Either that or a last minute color pallet change that left that terrible contrast with her skin and hair.
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Maybe I'm too retarded for unranked.

They got Illidan last pick, which quickly justified them picking Auriel and Tassadar. I ended up feeding like a mother.
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I'm gonna buy Mal'Damba~!
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>>158255190
Wrong general.
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>>158254829
tassadar (+ 3nd support) is a 99% guarantee for tracer or illidan. how can you be surprised by that?
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>>158256132
>>158256132
I have not played any form of draft since preseason.
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>>158256305
it has been this since preseason
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>>158257021
And in preseason I placed in Rank 38 after ten games and then quit in a huff, happy?

I did say I was retarded.
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HOW DO I BUILD TASSADAR

quick guys
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How do you guys still play this?
I'm honestly trying to get on the vibe, but retards everywhere, on lol or dota you can at least carry, on this game one or two feeders feed the entire enemy team and you can't do absolutely nothing

>Your only constant meme
Please spare me the plebbit bullshit

I honestly want to know how to have fun in this game being a competitive person, this game is like the most casual moba out there and the playerbase is still a bunch of functional retards, I just can't have fun playing any mode

I just honestly wanna know how to have fun in this game if you wanna win
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>>158258934
You can Carry as Alarak or Samuro. if you're as good as you think, play them.
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>Being put into stasis prevents you from capturing points

How long has this been a thing? Just had a Medivh steal a boss 1v5 with Ley Line Seal, even though 3 of us were on the point.
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>Queue dodge Blackheart's Bay twice
>Leaver status
Is this why HotS is a dead game?
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>>158258934
>Wanting to win
You already loss son, you need to embrace that every match you will lose

Be the shitter
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>>158257128
AHAHAHHHAHHAHA, there's LITERALLY bronze shitters posting here RIGHT NOW
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tfw u break ur back trying to keep squishies who are being relentlessly dove at by everyone alive as tassadar

tfw no one recognizes ur efforts and people think ur a meme support
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>>158260960
>tfw you press Q every six seconds

breaking ur back for sure
tass is such a skillful and complex hero
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>>158260960
tass is literally medivh for babies
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>>158258934

Daily reminder that YOU and only YOU are the only constant. Otherwise, there wouldn't be a difference between ranks.

Mate, again (and again) bronze, BRONZE, was made for you. It's your hole, you were born for it. You simply haven't the skill to rise up. Is not everyone in the world is an idiot but me, it is you. So yeah.

Deal with it.
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>>158261396
kek, keep your fancy rank at a dead game that nobody cares since thats the only achievement of your life

Also after 20 smurfs you better get that fucking legend, micro-dick sperglord
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>>158262114
>hehe you sick cause your good at a game
>I'm salty cause I'm bad
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>>158263480
what am I looking at here
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>>158263847
ESCUE MEH
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>use this build
>do nothing
>win anyway

http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/anubarak#sgrE

???? did I get carried ????
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>>158264274
it's the blizz forced 50, you can literally afk with any hero every game and win half your games
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>>158264274
>Use any build as anub
>do nothing
>lose/win depending on the matchmaking
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>>158263029
Maybe next time try to not come up with meme answers in serious post

I know this is the only thing you have in your life, so you must be proud, but this doesn't mean shit specially in a casual game like this one, the next thing you gonna tell me is that you are also a card master because you reached legend twice in cancerstone

And if you'd like to talk about e-penis because your real penis is too small, I'm Challenger in lol, LE in CSGO, and 6510 MMR on dota

Yea, I got fucking gold 3 in this game, but if I really wanted I could grind my way out, like I said in my post carrying is impossible, its basically grinding and hoping the enemy team is more retarded than yours

Heres a protip for you, autisto

>Next time you shitpost someone just for the sake of it, have a thicker skin, instead of going full damage control starting to post in 2 lines without even using a smug face, you butthurt overweight nigger

But I'm just salty dude, the truth is you are really skilled, its not like this game is 100% team based and the most casual shit out there, its not like there is people just as talented as you or even better at lower ranks as well, keep telling yourself that, your rank makes you better than everyone in this joke of a game
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Queue for QM
Get comps like Tassadar Li Ming Nazeebo Dehaka Gazlowe vs Morales Samuro Auriel Muradin Stitches

Queue for Hero League
Get first pick Abathurs who dont soak and people with African internet
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>>158264645

I'm 90% sure at this point that you are just a salty teenager at this point. How in the world an adult can write like this? Your vocabulary is filled with "memes", is frankly so sad. You even think stuff like "reaction images" or "funny faces" add anything to your post. :(

To the point, no mate, you are just bad in this game, and no, not everyone in leagues above Bronze or *chuckle* Gold is using a smurf. Fucking Lauralania is a Platinum player. The "I-I can b-but I don't want to!" is but an excuse. You suck at HotS, and every single "skill" in any other videogame won't cover this for you.

I'm sorry, again, you just have to deal with it. You were made for Bronze. HotS is a game were every character is balanced around a certain level, it can be said that you need the most skill to do anything with it since there aren't other forces around to push you beyond others. Decision making, team based skills and communication will always put you above others.

And LOL about thicker skin. You are the saltiest guy around here, is so easy to identify you since you are paranoid about people "making smurfs to rank up" to try to hide the shame on your rank. And yeah, the 10 memes per sentence. Cringe.
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>>158265919
i apologize for my African internet. I will gather the local militia rebel against our ruthless Nigerian Warlord tomorrow if he does not meet out internet demands.
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>play medivh
>people complain I shouldn't shield them for some reason
Are these people retarded? Should I just ignore them?
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sounds like it
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>>158267802
Maybe they mean shield the person taking damage? idk
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>>158267802
If it was Samuro or Nova, Shielding them can give away the real one.
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>>158267052
I'd watch that film.
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>>158267802
this >>158271390
also:
don't shield heroes with already a shield active(esp. zarya's) that can tank the damage.
don't shield too early/late, when there is no incoming damage.
don't shield for minor damage when enemy still has big damage spells(esp. heroics) ready.
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>>158264645
>>158266137
Two faggets being faggets. can't you guys go b faggets on /b/
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>>158251390
How many games is that? Must be around 2000
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>the priority of where chen spawns at the end of storm, earth and fire is storm spirit>earth spirit>fire spirit
fug I've always wondered how that worked :DD
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tfw vikings are shit tier rn
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Does anyone else find tracer boring to play?
I dont really enjoy playing her. Her skills arent really enjoyable to use, aside from blinking towards a low hp enemy out of position to take down.
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>>158253426
Probably watches too many seth mcfarlene shows
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>>158253847
>Either that or a last minute color pallet change that left that terrible contrast with her skin and hair.
considering the fact that her skin tone on her page is a good lot brighter than it is in-game this is more likely
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>>158277565

I find her extremely fun to play. Getting in, getting the kills, dodging every single skillshot, going back in time leaving bombs/shenanigans/escaping death. No anon, she is good. GOOD. Goddamn fun, though, she really needs a good support with her at all times.

I always end up with at least 9 kills and less than 2 deaths with her. Diamond level.
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>>158278072
I dont doubt that, I just dont really enjoy her pizazz. Is taking parting gift talent 2 out of 3 times worth it?
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What will be this weeks hero rotation?
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>first pick valla
>enemy team has kt
>second and third pick tracer and illidan
>healer medic

why?
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>>158244361
why are there so many retards like you here? every hero is op the first week after release to make sure people buy him and blizz makes money, then they will nerf him a week later to bring balance back to the game and everyone wins
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>>158279346
>keep hero op for a couple weeks
>restore balance for a week
>release new champ
So we get balance 1/3rds of the time in the game?
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>>158279626
just stun him my friend :)
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>>158279626
correct
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>>158279346
yeah chromie was op as fuck when she came out, lunara almost broken 20% winrate as well for the first month of her release
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>>158280223
of course new heroes will have low winrates because they are new so shitters play them alot and lose.. use your brain ffs
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fucking nova free week incoming

right after tlv free week

whats next, abathur?
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>>158280935
it can't be worse than tlv free week
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>>158280935
I would be more worried about Greymane
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>get some error that shuts down hots right before we win
>it gets recorded as a loss
>hotslogs has the replay recorded as a win
I think I still got the winning points for it but it's annoying that it's recorded as a loss in my match history
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>>158261127
>5 seconds
>what is Force Wall?
>what is bug zapper?
>what is Shrink Ray?

Tassadar requires more skill to play than any other support. Go back to brightwing you bronze tier shitter desu ne
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>>158282354
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>>158258624
>1: Conjurer's Pursuit (or the W mana talent if you're playing on Infernal Shrines)
>4: Leeching Plasma
>7: Khala's Embrace (both of these should be baseline but they aren't, so you GOTTA take them)
>10: Force Wall (learn to use it correctly)
>13: the world's your oyster my dude. pick whatever's best for the situation at hand
>16: Evasive Shield if you have a dive heavy comp, double W talent if you're on Infernal Shrines
>20: Rewind or Storm Shield, they're both good.
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>>158280935
what is the new rotation?
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as a nova main i hate free nova weeks, it takes forever to find a match plus it hurts seeing all those shitters putting their shitter hands all over the best girl and playing her like shit
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If you embed fancy talent picks into a piece of shit.. it's still just a piece of shit.. just with talents in it
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>>158283295
What the fuck are you talking about
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>ctrl-f
>no BHC
Unacceptable, especially since he's right at our doorstep.
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>>158285762

This forced meme barely lasted one week mate, let it go already. It was never funny to begin with tbqh desu.
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>>158286157
>funny
I don't think you really understand
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i wanna slide my penis in tyrande sylvanas and auriel.
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>>158287226
YOU CAN'T HAVE SEX WITH AURIEL SHE DOESN'T HAVE A BODY HOLY SHIT
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>>158286506

let it go
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>>158287312
>SHE DOESN'T HAVE A BODY
neither does you're waifu but it sure as shit didn't stop me from fucking her as well
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>>158287503
I don't have a waifu so you can't fug her either >:D
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>>158287380
What is your issue, perhaps you haven't received your daily dose of orc dick?
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Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: October 25 - November 01, 2016
Raynor
Muradin
Xul
Uther
Kharazim
Johanna
Jaina (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Greymane (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Sgt. Hammer (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Nova (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
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>pinging the real Samuro repeatedly makes him permavisible
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>>158286157
i thought it was okay desu
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>>158288860
>Kharazim
cool i am making gold to buy this cunt and now he can pay for himself
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does Nature's Toxin count as ability damage?
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>>158292970
>he didn't buy him when he was avialable for 4k gold for a few hours due to bug
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can you filter russians yet I'm so fucking sick of shitty illidans leaving 5 minutes in
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>>158294064
>implying i had 4k at that time
>implying i even wanted him at that time
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why is samuro so fucking slow
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>Li Ming blows her entire load on me
>barely a scratch

HUEEEAAYYYOOOOO
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I wonder if samuro broke the world record in #1 most banned hero in HL
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>>158295243
you're retarded if you think anyone will ever surpass kael'thas. on top of being banned for months while sun kings fury was a level 16 talent and actually good in every single league, he will ALWAYS be banned in sub platinum, regardless of how bad or good he is.
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>>158294658
>her bf shows up and h-hey man's your boypussy
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>been playing for 2 and a half months
>have 100k gold
>don't feel like buying any hero really

is this normal? only own thrall and muradin. maybe it's my inner jew
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>>158296152
I leave
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>>158294148
>Not having at least 20-30k at any given moment
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>>158296864
>not 50k
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>>158296864
>>158297692
>not spending your coin on master skins as soon as you get 10k
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>>158297921
>not having master skins for all your lvl 10 heroes
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>>158297965
>having any heroes below lvl 20
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>>158297921
>>158297965
>Having master skins
>Ever
>Spending gold on fugly skins just for approval of others
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>>158298992
>he doesn't enjoy looking at his highest level heroes in a new light by purchasing (sometimes) good looking master skins
lmaoing at your life
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>>158298992
>implying there aren't heroes whose master skins aren't their best
>implying I do it for other people
>implying gold means anything
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>>158266137
>Uses reaction pic for banter purpose just like you did
>St-top u-using memes!!!!!!!111
>Literally post the plebbit retarded shit like a braindead cunt just for the sake of it, but can't even defend your shitty meme thesis

Plebbit is there mate, it was your hole, made for you, so you can vomit your bullshit, give shotouts to blizzard for doing their job, and defending thesis about how this game is the most complex and competitive moba out there and is all about ''comunication'' and ''skills'' when this game doesn't even has LAST FUCKING HIT

And if you can't see how skills in other games correlate to skill in this game, or how skills are related at all, you are a real stupid nigger and should read a book instead of shitposting 24/7
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>>158298992
>not wearing master skins on all your heroes to show people you're not some bronze shitter
You probably blew $10 on a pay skin that no one gives a shit about
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>>158299993
i have legendary skins on all heroes to show people i'm not a poorfag like you who can only afford to buy literally free skins with worthless gold
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>>158300214
>spending money on a dead game
s m h
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>>158299993
>Wearing skins that looks like shit just for people's approval
>Implying grinding = skill
>Muh ranks
>Muh bronzies
>This much micro-dick syndrome over a dead game
>Being a poorfag and not buying actually good looking skins on the one game he is good at

I bet you are that fat kid who thinks you understand shit about card games because you got legend in HS

Please never leave this shitty game
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>only have one assassin, tychus
>our zagara decides push all game
>doesn't even come to objective on cursed hollow
>don't die at objectives, just end up retreating because our team just ends up ooming
>cant win any team fights because every fight is 4v5, us being a tank fest being slowly pecked down by their 3 assassins
>check this guys profile after
>literally all he plays is zagara
was it autism?
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>>158293491
yes
dont take spell shield against lunara because toxin will always instantly pop it

actually idk now that you can toggle it on/off
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>>158305462
so Superstition is good against it. nice.
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>went on a massive win streak yesterday
>paying for it today by getting matched with leavers, BR, afkers and noobs in 10 minute stomp matches
Why can't this game match good teams? Why does it have to do these highs and lows.
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>>158306913
You were always matched with the same shitters anon.
Only yesterday, by chance, your opponents had more of them than your team.
You are also one of them. When you argue in game with someone about him being a shitter and a noob he's thinking the same thing of you. He also thinks he's right and he's always matched with shitters.

Sorry to burst your bubble.
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>>158308853
We need a drawfag in this general to prevent things like this to happen.
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>>158309652
>When you argue in game
>implying I even acknowledge shitters
>I'm a noob because one of my teammates is afk or only has 100 total games played or doesn't even speak english
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>>158285762
>>158286157
>>158292421

Speaking of forced memes...
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>>158280935
It's a shame because if you have Abathur you want to be playing now before Samuro gets nerfed.
Get monstrosity for the first time in your life, get the spike burst level 1 upgrade, aoe shields, cooldown on Q, whatever you want. Sammy is a one man army of high-hp hunter-killers you can actually infest to double their damage. Half the cast can't even imagine getting near the fight anymore. If the game is still going on at level 20 Samuro is the only guy who can wear two hats for double damage.
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>be lunara
>wild vigor
>giant killer
>invigorating spores
>watch muradin and etc run away as soon as they jump into the fight for the rest of the game
Cute and FUN!

Just so many games against double tanks anymore though.
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Are you guys going to treat yourself to a hots stream after defeating monday???
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>tfw reliable 5stack for team league

this game is fun again
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>>158311212
Why do I keep seeing these female streamers being advertised in bnet launcher?
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Haven't played for a while, thought to come back and see how the game's doing.

How do the following heroes stack up in the current meta:

>Diablo
>Tassadar
>Zeratul
>Tyrael
>Muradin
>Anub

?
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>>158312289
>Diablo

stopped reading right here
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>>158312431
he's asking whether those heroes are good in the current meta, not proclaiming that they are good in the current meta, retard
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>>158312289
>Diablo
Okay. Not great, but not terrible.
>Tassadar
Who? Basically replaced by Zarya at thus point
>Zeratul
Decent, but he's just the poor man's Samuro ATM
>Tyrael
Still the best offtank in the game
>Muradin
Still one of the best tanks in the game
>Anub
Dead and useless
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>>158312289
Diablo is meh
Tassadar + tracer is really good, tass is good with a zarya too.
Zeratul is usually pretty good when you are good on him you can take out squishies quickly, otherwise he's worthless
Tyrael and Muradin are great
Anub isn't bad especially against casters or as a second tank not great though
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>>158312289

>Diablo

Trash

>Tassadar

Alright, have his spot in double support comps and to enable Tracer/Illidong..

>Zeratul

Alright, but only if the user is decent thanks to VP, otherwise, other melee assassins are better overall.

>Tyrael

Pretty good. Sanctification is the ult to go.

>Muradin

God tier as always.

>Anub

Mediocre. No real reason for him.
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>open up hots
>see this esports shit
http://us.heroesofthestorm.com/esports/en/overview
so did we come up with the bronze 5 team yet?
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>>158312289
>Diablo
garbage
>Tassadar
garbage
>Zeratul
garbage
>Tyrael
garbage
>Muradin
average
>Anub
garbage
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>>158313986
t. Garbage
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>>158314267
t. garbo bronze shitter
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>>158313604
No one wanted to team up with me because they realized that when I said I was the worse player of the general I was not lying
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>>158313986
Muradin is the best tank in the game. Rest are indeed trash though
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>>158292970
i'm still waiting between him and morales getting dropped. guess there are more support only players out there then it seems.

>>158296271
not normal but there's no rush. would recommend anyone starting to do the same really. free rotation is plenty for a while.
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>>158312289
>Diablo
Low tier, can be made to work, but his mechanics work against him like fucking crazy
>Tassadar
Mid tier, a good counter to Samuro if your team is retarded (they will be)
>Zeratul
Gazlowe tier, pretty much only useful for Void Prison
>Tyreal
Low tier, rockets up to High tier if he has Holy Ground. Pray your Tyreal is smart enough to take it.
>Muradin
High tier, recent adjustments have made him more powerful in skilled hands and less powerful in unskilled hands. Dwarf Toss no longer gives you Unstoppable which sucks, but Thunder Clap now fucks Attack Speed pretty harshly by default which makes him a hard counter to AA heroes
>Anub'arak
Mid tier, can be made to work, but the loss of Invulnerable on his Burrow Charge hurt him really fucking badly and very nearly put him into Low tier. Web is pretty much the only reason he doesn't live in a garbage can because it's good at isolating people, and can be a 2-for-1 against Cho'gall.
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>>158313295
Tass is great in tl, and higher level.
You just gotta know when to play him.

Anub is sick in dive comps.
I only bring him up when I need to go ham. And the enemy team has triple backline .
He's like my highest win rate hero at like 75%.

Don't play him to often. Only like 30 games though
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>>158258934
You raise a good question, how do you carry a team of lesser skilled players to improve your winrate at a lower level?

Being able to play decently at platinum isn't the same skill set exactly as carrying in silver or gold. I find that even if I'm doing well soloing against two opponents in lane with no deaths a teammate in another lane can still get themselves killed. When going to objectives I still see people ignore them, and people that dive in regardless of my danger/retreat pings to wait for their team before engaging.

Your team probably will lack map awareness at the earlier level, and you shouldn't rely on them to delay a team fight or be patient while you split push or finish that merc camp before flying in.

At lower levels people may be more vulnerable to ganks and ambushes, so perhaps a more skilled player should try to create advantages by getting picks before team fights.

What do you think VG?
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>tfw POWER OVERWHELMING will never be viable
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>>158314859
>guess there are more support only players out there then it seems.

That's because it takes a great deal of time and effort to break us in properly, and generally our masters don'tallow us to be anything else
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>>158317384
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________gitgud
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>>158317595
healsluts are the shittiest meme I can think of right now
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>>158317595
this shit has gone too far
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>>158318137
It's not longer a meme
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>>158318537
It still fucking is
you're just retards masking your gayness by erping instead of just getting out there and sucking dick
>>
>>158318696
Who says I don't do both?
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Samuro's strengths:
>60% bonus damage against structures and objectives, or anything else that doesnt really try to move, for 18 seconds
>60% bonus damage against heroes you jump on for at least a second before they can react and figure out which Samuro is real
>Your own easily spammable minions that can go push lanes
>Easily spammable minions that can eat tower shots to slowly drain them of ammo
>A 16-second cd self cleanse that can take off literally anything, and possibly has a split second of invulnerability to dodge anything
>50% bonus damage you can prep for 10 seconds before you jump on someone, as well as get every 3rd-4th hit
>This 50% bonus damage makes your sustained damage rediculously high, as well as your burst because you do 240% damage per critical strike with your clones attack something
>The math of his damage ends up being something like 720% damage over 4 un-talented hits, or 640% damage over 3 hits with Crushing Blows and Way of the Blade
>Gets a free stealth and speed boost every 12 seconds, which cannot be broken for 1 second for some reason, and eventually a free teleport every 12 seconds for near-guaranteed escapes
>Can phase through units, getting you out of body blocks and reducing one of the give-aways most other stealth heroes have for people who dont notice them
>Has a relatively high-skillcap micro ultimate upgrade that lets you get out of any situation if youre paying attention, making you uncatchable
>If youre bad at micro you can just take Bladestorm and become a little better at fighting groups, and have a way to run away uninterrupted for 4 seconds while you wait for Wind Walk to get back off cd

>Weaknesses
The exact same weaknesses of every other assassin: He's squishy and has a lack of disables, but still has a talent that synergises with disables
>Wind Walk is a dead skill if they can flawlessly spot and shoot at you, but is still useful for speed boosts and teleporting

So what do you take away to balance him?
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>>158319108
you forgot to add to the weakness
>Once you come out of stealth literally the whole cast can just walk away and you will never catch up because even with the passive boost you're slow as shit
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>>158319108
I think samuros clones get one shot by towers and the nexus just so they can't be sent down lanes to afk push for him against strucutres

The best way to nerf him is to lower his health since he has so many escapes and then remove the self cleanse when he uses mirror images
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>>158317595
>>158318137
>>158318169

>be me, fempanda Shaman Resto in WoW
>queue for a Mythic
>jokingly greet party with "hello lovers!"
>Belf male tank plays along, starts flirting back
>roleplay the smooth aggressively flirty tank and the demure healer inbetween pulls
>start getting a little hot
>after first boss find out that I already did that dungeon that week... no loot
>decide to stay, of course it's just because I'm so nice and I don't want to leave them in the middle of an instance
>I am definitely not staying for what is now becoming full preliminaries to ERP
>get terrible lag after second boss, have to drop put
>a little disappointed

If it was not for my connection would I have found out how deep the healslut meme really goes? I wonder...
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>>158319672
>be me
lurk moar faggot
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>>158319793
>be me
lurk more faggot
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>>158319108
Give him a mana bar
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>>158278971
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: October 25 - November 01, 2016
Raynor
Muradin
Xul
Uther
Kharazim
Johanna
Jaina (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Greymane (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Sgt. Hammer (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Nova (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
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>>158320901
What is this? Weekly cuck club meeting?
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>>158320245
>From the Warcraft universe, the most magical and mana-fueled universe
>Blademasters had mana in Warcraft 3
>Has ZERO (0) resources of any kind
I still dont get it. Only 3 heroes from Warcraft other than Samuro have no resources, and they either have ties to demon-power Cho'Gall, rely entirely on martial prowess and inherent demon powers like Illidan, or are Murky and just throw shit that isnt magical at all. He should have SOMETHING
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>>158312289
>Diablo
shit
>Tassadar
almost shit, not everywhere
>Zeratul
not that strong but still okay if it's for a counter pick on squishy heroes
>Tyrael
good
>Muradin
good
>Anub
only vs mages and as a second warrior
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>>158311212
How can a gold player stream and be on the battle.net launcher ?

Also place your bet
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>>158320901

Where's the real orc hero?
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>No Goblin Techies
Uhhh....hotstards?!
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>>158322002
All on cutenara and tyrande
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>>158322781
Gazlowe
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>>158322041

If we ever get a worker hero, it better be a fucking SCV and not another orc. They are way more interesting to play with.
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Nice daed game you got there, hoturds
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>>158322894
>>158194591

Remember how much hate and "whos" Lunara got on release and announcement? She is now an integral part of the HotS cast, and essential to /vg.

Who do you think is going to get the same treatment this Blizzcon? We ARE going to get one of these instead of garbage like MuhZad or literal autism, so please, deal with it right now instead of later. You'll love it, I promise.
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>>158323456
L E E R O Y
J E N K I N S
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>>158323456
The people that were the most furious were the people who wanted cenarius instead of wc3 drayd unit.
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>>158323663

He is a "meme" already, he doesn't really count. The controversy behind him already exists.

>>158323690

Cenarius is trash, happy we didn't got another boring male druid on the cast. Lunara is so much fun and cute at his side, it makes him even shittier than he already is.

-------------

Seeing Brightwing and Murky, it makes me wish for more antropomorphic/weird heroes on the cast. Who could fit this? A big fucking eye like the Overmind would be amazing.
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>>158324078
Yeah I never knew why people liked cenarius, he was in like one wc3 mission and died to an orc, the dryads were way better.
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>>158324078
Spider lady WHEN!?

Also we need a naga
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oh shit it's blizzcon time in a week isn't it
hype

you guys think they'll eventually release a gigantic balance patch like they did at some point back then?
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>those freckles
my dick wasn't prepared
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>>158324720
nah, those resources are flowing into Overwatch now.
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>>158323164
it'll be an orc but it'll have an scv skin available
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>master
>nazeebo picked 9%
>nova picked 8%

>silver
>nazeebo picked 15%
>nova picked 19%

fucking lmfao
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http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20326736/hallows-end-soon-fellow-bronze
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>Make assassins with no resource costs
>Dont actually limit their damage, cooldowns, health, or utility by any noticeable amount
Why do people keep doing this?
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>>158324930
>>158325382
Finally can get best valla skin
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>>158224284
i have a dream that i was playing king of masks with his voice as commentator.... then i woke up, and realise that would never happen never ever again, never ever ever ever. T_T
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>>158325915
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20326736/niggers-tongue-my-anus
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Hey /hotsg/ im in mood to write something really gay with Samuro topping some other guy. Any suggestions? Preferably someone from Diablo/Starcraft to get the crossover thing going and Mirror image will be used
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>>158325915
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20328825/counterplay-this-hero-with-one-simple-trick
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20328243/you-a-dumb-ass-nigga-anon
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>>158326151
xul, maybe rexxar
alternatively, vikes
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>>158326151

Tychus

Infested Tychus

With an effeminate voice and both a masculine and feminine penis

Because zerg
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>>158325915
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20326736/anon-reveals-his-faggotry-kills-self
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>>158326329
Thats actually a pretty good idea with the vikings. I like it.

>>158326383
That be kinky and i was more thinking something basic and i can only do barafaggotry
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>>158325915

>being this fucking idiot

Next thing you know you'll be placed on gold and swear everyone smurfs. Quoted for eternal shame.

>>158325382

I still think the skin is fucking ugly. No wonder it was made by one of the worst artists working on HotS atm. Wouldn't surprise me if he was the same that designed the hideous monstrosity that is Tracer's master skin. And is a fucking shame because the animations are pretty cool.


>>158323456

Will the Rock&Roll Racing hero be hype on Blizzcon or just ignored like background noise? Personally, is my most fucking wanted hero. Hearing Dustin say that all his voices are going to be narrated by Larry (the announcer) instead of the hero himself makes everything so much amazing.
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>>158326642

it can be completely tame, even loving and caring, it can even be Bara or whatever

Just be sure to mention that he has both a masculine AND feminine penis

Because zerg lore
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>>158326692
>Hearing Dustin say that all his voices are going to be narrated by Larry (the announcer) instead of the hero himself makes everything so much amazing.

saus pls
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>>158320901
full proto team soon.
zeratul
tassadar
alarak
artanis

and we can have a full zerg team if you use the butcherlisk skin.
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>>158326692
>>158327069
S P O I L E R S ? ? ?
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>>158327134
Maybe next is a zerg support
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>>158325549
>implying mana costs matter for most heroes
pretty much just supports + valla/kerrigan care
most heroes DO NOT run out of mana over a short enough timespan to matter in a fight, so the mana bar is more of a "how many times do you tap the well over 10 minutes" counter
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>>158327069

Twitter. Hunt the tweet, I'm way too lazy for it.

>>158327134

We NEED Selendis, Rohana and Vorazun for the complete waifu pack. Since we already have too many high templars, Vorazun should be the obvius choice. ALSO, it would fuck up the Maiev fag even more, and that's always fun.
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>>158327430
Is that a waifu? That looks like another male protoss
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>>158327426
Then why give anyone mana?
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>>158298992
I even throw in real money
know why? its a fun game and blizzard earned it

fuck you cheap mongo-boy
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>>158327426
>>158327736
they should reduce the mana costs on some of the really ancient heroes who have significant mana issues while marginally increasing the mana costs on those who don't
heroes who have been released or reworked recently can spend their mana a little too freely, whereas older heroes spend a lot more mana on their skills and need to be a lot more mindful with it
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>>158327736
they know that mana is "supposed" to be in these games, but they decided that running out of mana is unfun so they gave everyone enough to spam all their abilities on cooldown for 3 minutes
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What heroes are getting skins at blizzcon? I hope lunara gets one since she will have been out for almost a year with only that one skin.

Maybe Vikings, Zagara and Rehgar too get new ones.
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>>158327736
mana is literally only in-game to stop supports being OP in early game lane phase, after that you literally never need to think about mana again
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>>158327426
kael'thas burns through mana
jaina uses loads unless you go arcane intellect
gul'dans whole shtick is his mana
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>No hero with mana burn or mana drain
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>>158329884
spell breaker could not come soon enough, he would have been an essential part of the meta a patch ago
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You have 5 minutes to come up with a rework for Murky that isn't "remove him from game" or "leave him like he is". Go!
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>>158327430
the problem is they don`t really have anything for a kit, zeratul covers the nerazim, tassadar and artanis cover the khala dudes, and alarak the tal`darim (except maybe for an spellcasting ascendant or something).
The only thing not covered are purifiers, so it would either be not-Fenix or Karax
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>>158330213
give pufferfish a health bar instead of "breaks in x hits" health, but still disallow abilities to hit it
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>>158330213
shit self heals 10% of damage done, puffer fish moves slowly towards the target after a delay it can be detonated (It can still be shot down) bubble does damage on pop or a slow.

Fuck man I dunno I don't really play him so I don't know what he needs.
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>>158330350
Regular Fenix should be a dragoon
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>>158322041
>d'ok
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>>158320901
i recognize that rexxar taygeta
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>>158330213

Remove some of his talents and make them baseline additions to his abilities or trait.

Move his talent tree around a little too.

More health regeneration and damage if he melees you. Make him more annoying that way.
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>>158332086

How can a mere peasant craft so much and somehow father a variety of heroes and a whole army (some of whom aren't even human) to command?
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>Go solo
>My team starts by picking a support
>They listen to my calls, and ban the heroes I say
>They pick all their roles correctly
>feelsgoodman
>Someone dodges the queue

Of fucking course, I can't have a pleasent match in this piece of shit game

Fuck this gay shit I'm out, don't even know why I am wasting precious time playing this dogcrap
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>>158334842
> 5 To queue
> 5 min on drafting, someone dodges
> More 5 min
> Get retards who pick their ''main'' hero even tho they are cancer with it
> GG at 5 min since enemy team is lv 10 while we are sitting at 6 because feeders feed whole enemy team bullshit
> 20 min of my life wasted

And some people still take this game seriously

Seems like trolling/being a shitter is the only way one can have fun in this tumorland
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Is the HOTS Starter pack worth getting? it's like £5 on G2A. Is there anyone decent in it? Also comes with ronin skin and the golden tiger.
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>>158335776
>uk
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>>158336574
It was a garbage skin anyway.
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>>158336574
A troll hero?
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When is HotS going to add a hero like Leshrac?
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>>158341741
another deer?
no thank you.
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>>158341597
Why would they stick Mekkatorque in a Gyrocopter instead of a Dwarven Siege Engine?
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>>158342104
>hating on deer heroes
Fuck OFF!
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Well, I played two Unranked Games (first one I got disconnected) and got told off by a first pick Tychus who blamed me and told me to quit because I took Dream instead of Tranq.

So, I guess I quit. I can't deal with QM comps and I can't deal with UNRANKED people going off on me for not suiting their standards of play.
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>>158343118
>Took Dream

Thank god you're quitting, shitter supports like you are killing the game
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>>158343231
It had the highest pick at Masters, I assumed there was a reason why.

I was wrong and apologized. Oh well.
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>>158343102
>Another tank
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>>158343231
tranquility is garbage, are you retarded. Only bronze retards complain about people taking it.
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>>158343021
wrong reply>>158343503
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Am I correct in assuming that Apmliefied Healing Buffs stitches' devour?
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Is Zag a waifu?
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>>158344454
Yes
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>>158343838
yes you are correct
amp healing also increases health regen so it synergizes with shit like regen master or savor the flavor
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>>158344454
>Vaginia full of spherical muslim aliens

Nope.
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basically the "heal from vile gas" talent is literally useless garbage, because even on a zero support team amp healing + devour is better
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>>158344478
Good
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>>158343503
Ya but the Siege Tank is more made for running you over and historically never attacked anything other than buildings
Maybe make it an ultimate to summon a few siege units to just destroy a fort or two. Gnome Sappers, Siege Engines, maybe even a Dwarven Mortar Team even though he shouldnt be able to do that.
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When?
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>>158344582
Interesting. Been getting a lot of mileage out of healing vile gas vs samuro, but Im not sure whats better vs him.

You get stacks from his illusions, so it's very easy to always have 3-5 targets giving you healing off of it. Which adds up pretty nicely even though the healing is shit.
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>>158345082
Every single Dreadlord is a giant bitch and yells "Im immortal!" before dying. BUT, they do have Sleep, Vampiric Aura, and Infernal, which we havent seen replicated yet, so I guess they have their place. If Tichondrius gets in then he could use Demonic Conversion to turn merc camps or enemy minions onto his side. Could be gud.
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>>158345519
>Every single Dreadlord is a giant bitch and yells "Im immortal!" before dying
Aren't they?
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>>158346080
Well, yea, but they cant keep acting like their plans will unfold in some grand scheme just because they have time on their side. Whats the point of trying to execute a plan over time if you miss your window of opportunity by 500 years because you had to regenerate your body after getting obliterated by some guy? It just doesnt look good on them, because they all do it.
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>>158346495
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>>158265919
>Solo queuing as Tassadar in QM

Why do people do this?
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>>158318537
Here's the thing, no one actually gets off on this stuff. If they actually did, they got trolled.

It's just like furries. No one is really a furry, they just get tricked into doing it because they want to be accepted by someone. The first furries were doing it to trick people into having sex in mascot costumes
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When will tass get love?
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>>158343021
Why would you do either when he has a sick fucking mech?
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I was able to win with this comp in HL, I'm Chen. Good luck to you out there
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>>158351909
When trump wins the election.
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>>158353332
This made my day. Wish I could do meme matches with some folks.
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>>158324720
between babying "e-sports" and their faster updates now i expect that to never happen again. they do enough now gradually. maybe if they do something a little drastic like making level 20 hit faster or drop high level death timer there will need to be a bunch of changes. doesn't seem to be any demand for anything like that.
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>>158352935
Lunara is CUTE!
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Okey /leddit/ who is the best hero to lose with it?
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>>158357597
murky
>>
Hey, 4chan, is your leak guy dead or something?
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/59490p/4chan_guy_is_missing/
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>>158358535
>I can not even open the link to his thread :(.

oh no, 4chan guy's thread has been deleted
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>>158358535
>>158358535
Nah, he just post in our secret board.
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>>158358535
yes, he got killed by one of you ponyfucking faggots. see >>158224419
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ABATHUR BUFFS WHEN?
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I was in a game so bad I thought I was in some kind of drug induced dream where things are just fading in and out

>team starts off fine on bhb
>naz bot alarak goes to help him get bot chest
>both naz and alarak die to solo zagara
>top rehgar is whipped away to safety by our auriel with his 4 coins
>suddenly 4 people defending bot against zagara and rehgar at a standstill while alarak is pinging to help for and I need to clear top two lanes
>4 people are down on bot for 6 minutes, lose the fort anyway
>I'm double clearing lanes against etc and li-ming while their sonya is doing all the camps
>alarak will not stop dying and pinging help bot
>later 4 people were bot two clear two seige giants while enemy team was turning in again
how is this even diamond it's insane we didn't do a single camp aside from the little coin camps I was doing at the top
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>win 4 in a row
>excited for my promotion game
>i'm highest MMR, first pick
>draft chat retard 1: zalwa leave game pls
>draft chat retard 2: not you again, l2p you shitter
>they're both shitters
>draft chat retard 2 goes AFK 4 minutes into the match
>the only thing he ever says is "NO GANK MY LANE TEAM???????"
>not promoted
ok then
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>>158364120
>i'm highest MMR, first pick
But that's wrong you bronzie
"The player with the highest matchmaking rating on each team will be automatically selected to issue bans."
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>>158364310
how is that wrong? I was the banner, that's how I knew I had the highest MMR
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>>158364912
you said you were first pick, not that you were banning
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>>158365015
he said that he was highest mmr AND first pick
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>>158365195
it can be interpreted like "I was highest mmr since I was first pick" but yeah
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What should a cute little grill panda do if she sees feels a cold sensation in her furry ass caused by a cloaked nova firmly pressing her barrel against it? Remember that cute panda grills have no skill shots or revealing talents.
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>>158366594
>blind
>spam Q as you should constantly be doing, in fact, if you don't have an AHK script doing that for you, you might as well quit
>waddle away with your passive
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>>158366594
have you tried:
juking her
blinding her as soon as she unstealths so she can't do any followup damage
keeping yourself near full health
staying inside of a minion wave
staying next to a teammate who can kill her
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>>158352862
I'm going to be quite disappointed if Gelbin doesn't get his mech in HotS.
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this is retarded.
why does qm place me as only healer in our team when i play as monk? i always do damage build so our team has no heal when enemy team has malf or bw etc
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>>158366594
why is the panda running around alone? she has nobody to serve tea to that way...
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>>158367215
*I'm retarded
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>>158367165
what does that barrel connect to? it can't shoot anything like that! it's just an empty barrel with no ammo chamber or anything???
>>
>tfw no misha gf
WHY EVEN LIVE
>>
>>158367579
Maybe pure energy?
Maybe magic?
>>
when will samuro cost 10k? i can't wait to absue that OP yummyness
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>>158368047
after they nerf him obviously
>>
Any definitive build for Kharazim? Are damage talens worth it on him? Between heal, utility and damage I have no idea what to take.
>>
>be falstad
>our zerathul is plazing like a retard
>see him escaping with 1% hp from a battle
>enemz kaltheas just put da bomb on me
>revenge time
>roll near him
>boom
>DING
>kek
see you in 60 sec shitter
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>>158368776
>realize I'm still bronze
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>>158368776
I do that all the time just for fun. It|s best when you can ding two heroes at the same time. The angst in the chat afterwards is delicious
>r-r-reported!!!!! ;;;;___;;;;
>>
From leddit:
>Medivac is not situational and should almost always be picked, because it's the only escape Morales has: but people love turning other people big and blue and dangerous.
thoughts?
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>>158363351
I swear anon it's like everyone forgot how to fucking play the maps that where removed for the event

>guys sandman told us the temples are online 4 hours ago where the fuck are you
>guys davy jones told us there is treasure ITS RIGHT THERE! BE QUICK AND GRAB IT!
>guys medusa told us THE SHAMBLERS RISE fucking go collect there god damned seeds AHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>158369125
you can read many inane things on there and this is up there with the worst of them
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>>158369125
its almost like ANYONE can just make a reddit account and post ANYTHING there, free of charge. thank god we're not like that

you should still take stim drone if you have a butcher or any auto attacker basically.
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>>158369470
all heroes can auto attack you autistic retard
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why is sylvanas so shit?
i bought he because he looked super fun, every time she was on enemy team she just kept taking down our forts one after another (usually she took down 2 - 3 in the first ten minutes) so i wanted to do that as well but every time i tried to attack an enemy fort i was jumped by some faggot and killed, she is weak as fuck
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>>158369640
>all heroes can auto attack
>team calls me bronze for giving stim drone to abathur

umm, explain this hoturds
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>>158369760
Because this is the dark age of op samuro
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>>158369760
Use your haunting wave to escape, you get like a second of unstoppable too when you take it.

When you cast haunting wave you hit the button again while it's in the air to teleport to where the wave is.
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>queueing for 15 minutes now because some fucker always dodges draft last second
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>>158369760
>Sylvanas
>Shit
buh ronze
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>>158370165
he doesnt need the movespeed boost because he can just deep tunnel into melee range

you should stim Murky instead
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>>158367579
>gun folds back
>projectile is inserted from the elbow joint
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>>158367579
Might be a one-shot, anon. It isn't shown being fired more than once, so...
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>>158369125
tripfags are hated for a reason - the addition of a name to your posts immediately makes you think you have something worthwhile to say, which makes you retarded.

unfortunately reddit did not learn this lesson
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medivac can make some pretty funny plays on WHJ tho

just evac 3-4 dudes with nukes onto the enemy core and instantly win
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100% fool proof counter to Samuro: put him in a team with 4 idiots who miscast every single ability.
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>>158370330
>running from a fight ever
do i look french to you son?
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>7 death russian greymane who literally ran away from healing says "bg stupid idiot team" after we stomp the other team
Are Russians ever fucking satisfied?
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>>158371441
How to win against samuro: have the better samuro
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Insight or Transcendence?
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>>158371538
There is a difference between surrendering or retreating to fight again dear american shitposter
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>finally get to play Sammy boy in draft
>get a Zarya who disconnects 3 minutes into the game, a Morales who doesn't heal me ever and a Tracer that tries to split push


wow guise, Samuro is totally balanced and might even need buffs!

>>158371687
yeah, one's dumb and the other's cowardly.
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>>158371545
please try to understand his feelings, i once visited russia on a work trip and that place is a terrible shithole... i mean holy shit.. imagine having to live like a serf all you life, you would be angry all the time too
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>ragetell someone and ignore them before they can reply
Your weakness annoys me more than your poor play!
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>>158371634
Insight looks better imo, more AOE heal, infinite mana, more uptime on deadly reach. The price being having to complete the quest which takes about 10 minutes.
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>pick abathur
>some guy pick nova
>no one wants to heal
>anotherloss.jpeg
>go healing build
>win
rate
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>>158374515
>sample size of 1
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>>158374515
Looks like that was mostly Tychus ripping those assholes open while Alarak and Muradin kept them comfortably in range.
I'm sure you helped, but Tychus carried the day.
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WHEN INSECTS!
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>>158376119
When they buff Abathur
HOLY FUCK JUST BUFF HIM
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i dreamt that they removed auriel from the game because she was an unhealthy support because she has no mana

i was very happy to realize i was just dreaming when i woke up

i will always love you auriel
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>>158377683
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Are we getting a new brawl this week?
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>>158378206
new brawls every week
but they already stated that they are gonna recycle them eventually
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>>158368464
I usually go insight, shield, echo, palm, dash move speed, cleanse or more healing, storm shield
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>weekly brawl reward
>it doesnt reset at the beginning of the week
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>>158378206
Either 10 novas or 10 hammers brawl is next.
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>>158377814
post moar
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>>158378791
>not 30 Vikings Brawl
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>auriel will never wrap tightly your wrap your benis in her bandage attack ;_;
why live
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>>158378669
Almost the same as other build I got suggested. Except 1 more second for E on 13. What do you think about that?
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>>158378669
>insight
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>>158379389
>picking anything but insight
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>>158379874
you have to if you want to TRANSCEND bronze if you know what i mean
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>>158380037
Insight has a higher win rate in every league but silver for hero league, so whatever works for you friendo
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>>158380407
according to hotslogs :^)
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>>158378669
the massive problem with kharazim is that qm will count you as healer and put no other heals on your team so you are literally forced to build your self as weak piece of shit heal and then you are weak attacker and shit healer which will get stamped over easily by the enemy healer
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When does the patch go live?

I have the win 3 games quest and play 8 games quest and i want to make progress towards slutty Valla portrait
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>>158379874
wait is insight quest a hard counter for the stacks, or is it one of those useless quests where you lose the quest progress when you die, and as such cannot complete the quest ever? (for example like butcher and his quest for meat)
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>>158381440
You don't lose stacks of insight
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>>158381401
what patch
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>>158381305
I feel like people on my level (or possibly even on ranked) favour poke teams, which obviously plays against him. Having 1-2 people to engage enemy as you q on them/enemy to start punching for heals really helps. Also insight works for both heal and damage by resetting W and E.
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>>158364310
>The player with the highest matchmaking rating on each team will be automatically selected to issue bans.
Oh shit, is this actually true? I get ban pick 90% of the time. Thought it was just random and I was really lucky.
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>>158378669
>>>>insight
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>>158382356
that is a bad thing you retard. you are a shitter if you ban that means all of the other people in your team are WORSE than you so your entire team are shitters
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>>158380598
according to real life too, since Insight means you heal all your dudes every 3 seconds instead of one dude every 3 seconds
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>>158382672
>implying I'm not a pro shitter carryer
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>>158382815
It takes roughly 2 seconds to do 3 auto attacks, breath of heaven is on an 8 second cd, that means insight is only taking about 2-2.5 seconds off breath of heaven's cd, so lets compare. Single target heal someone for 76 every 2 seconds and aoe heal 291 every 8 seconds or only heal everyone around you for 291 every 6 seconds after you've done 300 auto attacks which will take you 3-4 minutes from the start of the game, effectively gimping your lane phase healing. So with transcendence you'll net 595 healing over 8 seconds and with insight after stacks you'll heal 291 over 8 seconds.
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>>158383956
>Insight doesnt reduce Q and E cooldowns

transcendence is a crutch for shitters which is why it only has a higher win rate than Insight in Silver, a league that LITERALLY doesn't matter to good players. stay shit though
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>>158383956
>291 over 8 seconds

That's assuming you only ever heal 1 target with a multi-target heal. If you do that, you shouldn't be playing Kharazim (because your team comp needs a different support)
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>>158383956
>he takes cleanse
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>>158381610
the one that will finally make this ded game actually playable
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such is life in bronze
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>>158384148
>show him with evidence why insight is garbage
>DOOD HOTSLOGS METAL ALLOYS SHITTERS

>>158384321
You can still use breath of heaven without insight, I used single target healing for my numbers but even while healing multiple people, transcendence pulls ahead of insight with about 20% more healing.
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>>158384458
???
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>>158384752
20% more healing TO ONE TARGET YOU CAN'T CHOOSE.

If you want to argue with proven statistics, you're literally too dumb for this game.
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>>158385892
post rank
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>>158385892
>20% more healing TO ONE TARGET YOU CAN'T CHOOSE
Lowest health hero, and you can still use breath of heaven which you seem to be totally ignoring.
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http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20324866/heroes-of-the-storm-balance-update-october-25-2016-10-25-2016
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>Cursed Hollow
>Tribute suspiciously spawns in the most convenient position for the enemy team
>over and over and over

this map is worse than the dragon knight one holy moly
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>>158387963
>didn't remove his cleanse so he's still impossible to lock down without hard CC
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>>158387963
OH SHIT SAMURO LOST 100 HP BTFO
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>>158387963
>These changes.

Now what did you really change blizzard.
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>>158387963
>version mismatch
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>>158387963
wtf I don't think he'll lose even 5% of his winrate with these changes
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>>158387963
>the cleanse will be removed :)
HAHA GET FUCKED RETARDS
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7SyfZ2SDxU
fuck the halloween skins are only those two that they already showed
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>>158389617
Dead game
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>>158388565
Scan and repair fixes this.
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who is this?
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>>158393294
Le HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA man
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>>158393294
Headless Horseman.
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>The Blademaster has been loosed, and is busy carving up a healthy win-rate.

>67.5%
>healthy

you're literally shedding players because of how unbalanced this game is.


>he still has a cleanse
>he receives a 5% movespeed debuff, but is still invisible and moves incredibly quickly
>illusion master nerf even though memestorm is the most popular talent
>unstoppable fucking ult
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>>158393294
that's the ToD boss
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>>158392585
yeah figured I might as well do that
thanks anyway
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>>158393815
They fixd the mirror image cleanse.
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>>158394071
No they didn't.
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Whoever designed Braxis should be fired

Out of a cannon

Into the sun

This map is such a pile of shit, it should be put in a museum of bad game design
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>>158394420
it's literally the dragon shrine with zerg so its pretty good
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>>158394174
Go play the game, mirror image is not working with Xul roots and other ccs.
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>>158394617
Well it wasn't in the fucking patch notes.
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>>158394581
It's Haunted Mines.
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>>158394757
haunted mines was a great map
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>>158394902
Sylvanas the Map was shit.
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>They changed basically nothing about Samuro aside from a minuscule HP nerf
>They even fucking buffed his OP ult

Blizzard fucking "Balance"
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>>158394706
Sure faggot, that's why it's in the patchnotes, right?
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>>158395115
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>>158394995
>reduced from 20 to 15
>buff
um?
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>>158394902
>haunted mines was a great map
how can anyone have such bad taste
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>>158395265
>Mirror Image timed life increased from 32 to 36 seconds
>Nerf
>>158395206
Whoops, I quoted the wrong post, I actually agree with you.
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>>158395621
the duration and cooldown were both increased
so it's the same uptime
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>>158395621
They're gonna stick to the mechanic that if nothing kills the clones you can have them all the time. But if they actually die, it's a longer cooldown to get them back.
The nerfs a pretty much exactly what I thought they'll be. One more thing I've expected is reducing the duration of windwalk to 6s (from 8s). Maybe for the next week.
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>>158396029
>They're gonna stick to the mechanic that if nothing kills the clones you can have them all the time. But if they actually die, it's a longer cooldown to get them back.

Then why even give them a timed life at all? Make them permanent, but don't start the 16 second cooldown until after all clones are dead.
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>>158387963
Wtf are these changes even?
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When does this Hallow shit go live?
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>>158396785
>still playing this dead piece of shit game
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quality entertainment
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>>158387963
They aren't doing another patch until maybe after blizzcon and I doubt we will see something the tuesday after blizzcon so 3 weeks for the next patch at least.
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>>158397457
>3 more weeks of samuro permaban/QM unplayability
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>>158397292
So soon?
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>>158397378
the midstream mental breakdowns are really the only reason to ever watch mewn
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>>158396336
Because then you'd be able to just leave them in lane, pushing, for far too long or have one perma hidden for always escape with change places. But if you decide to keep them around you at all time, then you can have them at all time.
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>just trying to complete win 8 games daily real fast
>shitters queue for elite ai and make boring bot matches drag on for 10 minutes
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>>158398432
you know beginner ai gives the same rewards, right?
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>>158393294
cursedaded spooky green halloweiny man who accidently kill his family becuase of he was a scarlet crusade fanatic n dreadlord madeded him a scary horse guy with no head who also shoots green fire from his swrod
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>>158398849
>what is english
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>>158399241
i no speka so gfud ever since the accident
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>>158398849
They don't do different levels of ai anymore it's a mix of what people choose, if you queue up against an elite ai it will put one elite ai bot in the game, then if someone in the same game was queued up against a beginner bot it will then put one beginner bot in the game as well.
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cool and nice
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>insignificant and tiny nerf to SAMURO
>no change in stats/effectiveness
epic
nice
like it
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>>158399590
>getting hit by li ming as the most mobile hero in the game
That's on you, filthy dumb Tracer scum.
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>>158399965
>m-muh hots is skill g-game, i p-promise
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>>158399590
>get hit by skillshots as tracer
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>>158400537
>what are cooldowns
>>
>>158400787
>what is love
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>>158400787
something li ming has as well

sorry pal
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>>158400853
your point being?

if my cooldowns are out of sync with hers, she gets to 100-0 me with one ability
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>>158400943
Then you got outplayed because you went up against a li-ming without your cds and got destroyed, then for some reason complain about your terrible decision making as if it isn't your fault.
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>>158401046
i wasnt aware that throwing arcane missles out of a bush where i cant see her is outplay

lol
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>>158400943
she doesn't have a way to put your abilities on cooldown for you

if you die because you don't have any blinks left, blame the guy who used up all the blinks
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>>158401204
Wow, you suck awareness. It is.
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>>158401556
>i-i promise hots is a game where the better play always wins h-hehe

i'm gonna stop replying now, the amount of li ming players is too much

there's a reason hots has never or will never be a relevant esport
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>>158401204
Baiting all of tracers cds out and then killing her is a skill
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>>158401759
>t-the game i-is at fault, I don't suck! it's the game that's shit!
You're gonna give me another you anyway because you're one attention starved faggot. Not that it matters, I know I'm right. Don't ever disgrace Tracer with your shitty play again
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>>158401759
because its fucking boring to watch

ur the bronze player complaining you got killed
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>>158401759
i mean yeah it's not a very skillful game
but you still sound like a retard when you whine about "wtf how come i have to die just because i put all my survivability spells on cooldown and then rammed my face into a slow-ass purple death wave"
>>
Someone should post the meme of Li-Ming damage control trying to explain how Li-Ming is a hero that takes a lot of skill
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>>158401759
You did get hit by all 5 arcane missiles, you don't even need blink to avoid those.
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>>158399590
>a tracer getting hit by all 3 (THREE, TRES, TRE) missiles

this is a first, be proud
>>
Valla skin WHEN!?
>>
I just had a 32 minute Braxxis Holdout game where we won at lvl 30. Kill me please.
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>>158403156
he got hit by 5 actually
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>>158403457
>lvl 30
no you didn't until you post proof

you lying scumbag
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>>158403520
wow
o
w
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>>158403575
post proof that I didn't
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>>158403575
I left the game quick. We had a Jaina that died 16 times and a Xul that would into their entire team and die.

The only reason we won is because they would throw right before the shrines spawned and the only reason it went on that long is because no matter how big the defending wave was we'd have 2 or 3 people run back to defend it.

That and their Illidan went full hunt build so we'd have someone die because they'd just stand around at 25% health and then Illidan would die for jumping them.

It was fucking stupid.
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My fellow terrans; only one and a half week from now.
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Did Samuro get nerfed today?
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>>158404424
Yeah, he lost 100 base health
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>>158404267
you could go into your replays and take a screenshot from there but we all know you wont cause youre a big fat liar
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>>158404267
>>158406269
i don't think theres ever been a level 30 game, and until you prove it, it remains a fact
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>>158404341
What does Varian have to do with terrans?
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>>158406554
They got big human cocks, for one.
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>>158406554
He's Mengk's grand-grand-grand-grand-....-grandfather. And now they're gonna meet at Blizzcon along with Malthaedge
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>>158406269
Your right, I was wrong. The game lasted 38 minutes and we were only lvl 27.
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>>158406926
They wouldn't release 3 husbandos at blizzcon there is going to be at least 1 waifu
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>>158403457
>lvl 30

i played a 40 minute game and only got lvl 27
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>>158408067
Said I was wrong >>158408550
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What are the next skins on sale?
>>
>>158408202
They could also reveal 4 heroes, but something tells me most of their manpower has been reassigned to overmeme and they are just going to flop.
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>>158408762
Morales, Morales Spiky Skin, Spellbraker Johanna.
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>>158408946
Spellbreaker Johanna is pretty cool. Too bad I don't play her.
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how to REALLY fix samuro

>lower basic attack damage from 96 to 92
>lower mirror images' damage from 30% to 25%
>raise wind walk's cooldown from 12s to 14s
>reduce way of the blade's damage from 25% to 20%
>redo all level 7 talents
>have shukuchi increase wind walk's cooldown by another 2s
and probably some more
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>>158410343
the problem isn't his damage it's his survivability

imo add a longish fade time to windwalk so it's not instant invis
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>>158410471
He can jump on anyone and pretty much insta delete them, how is that not a problem. He's a way better Zeratul than Zeratul.
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>>158410471
his damage isn't his main problem but it's also a problem
half a second until his invis kicks in?
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>>158410542
melee assassins SHOULD have high damage

but using it is supposed to be risky. if he overextends and goes on someone at the wrong time he should die for it like like Butcher or Illidan does, and currently that doesn't happen
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>>158410820
And any decent Samuro it won't happen, because of Illusion Master. You just keep a clone back and teleport to it when you have to.
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>>158411231
in that case you're trading damage/surprise for survivability.

if you want to run in invis you have to go without illusions and without phantompain damage, or you run in with one illusion but it's obvious where you're going because it isn't invis
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gul'dan is quickly becoming my favourite hero

who else would i like
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>>158411768
Murky.
You need a melee creep in your hero pool to compliment that ranged one.
>>
>>158411768
i played him last week and was pretty fun with the talents on the echoed corruption
>>
Maybe I'm stuck with shitty Samuros or it's because I've been playing Tychus lately, but the Samuro is op meme isn't true in my experience.
Usually it goes something like this.
>ambushes me with illusions
>bomb and spray him
>faggot tries to 1vs1 me
>give him the D
>windwalks away
Also his illusions are really good for the D or any quest where you have to hit heroes. Though there is almost always that one retard that strays away and gets bodyblocked to death by illusions.
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>>158414709
>windwalks away

this is the problem though, you didnt even kill him
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>>158409098
That's like the shittiest skin in the game
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>>158414772
he got fat stacks and made him useless for another 18 seconds, without dying

id say its a very good trade
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>>158414772
I guess, but I played a lot of wc3 so I'm used to the blademaster being an annoying asshole that you can't kill.
Maybe I got conditioned by that so I don't have as much a problem with Samuro as others.
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>>158399428
queue canceling helps. at leasts it seems to keep me off the singapore server at 5am. if you let it go past 2 minutes you'll almost surely be fucked.
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>>158414893
>Not going bigger they are
Come on now
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>>158419264
>going bigger they are when you have mindless illusions to stack on for 10 bonus seconds of D

use ure brain
>>
Blizzcon predictions?

Varian
Zuljin
Ragnaros
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>>158420429
my dear
i'm afraid you've got it all wrong
>>
Daily reminder that Samuro getting cleanse upon using Q is intentional and you should deal with it, shitters.
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>>158421424
Can Tracer's bomb be cleansed?
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>>158421751
Right now it's the only on-hit effect Samuro can't cleanse by using Q, but Blizzard is working on it :^)
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>>158414709
Just tried this, got almost 10 secs on my minigun without even trying on a 20 min game, and half the match I wasn`t fighting against sammy
Dunno how i didn`t think about doing this.
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>>158421846
Weird. I had a game against a Samuro 2 days ago where our tracer threw a bomb, he mirror imaged right as it went off, and didnt take any damage. It may possibly have a very short window where he just disappears from the map and avoids damage.
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>>158422363
As it should be. Only a bad player takes any damage while playing Samuro.
>>
What the hell? Does this "nerf" even do anything?
>>
>>158422512
Why would Samuro need any more nerfs? He's really underwhelming as is.
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>>158422459
I would rather have him have a slightly longer frame of invulnerability rather than have the cleanse every time. He had both in WC3, but that was a consequence of him very visibly becoming invulnerable for a second, and may be what happened here too. Having that shit on a 18 second cd in a game where the only watch to catch speedy assassins is to lock them down before they can do damage is not okay. He cant have both.
>>
Blog in.

I just got Grandmaster,

Blog out.
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>>158422512
Does nothing
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>>158424474
Remember when Blizzard said Anub'Arak getting Invulnerable on a basic ability was "too strong"?
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>>158425207
Itd literally be .2 seconds of just not being on the map before you and your images re-appear. Burrow Charging and being invulnerable for at least a second could be a little strong, but also a detriment because now you couldnt eat disables for allies behind you. Really though, just imagine the shit you could dodge with such a tiny window. It may actually take some degree of skill to consistently and properly use it. You could actually change its role from a face-rolling DPS ability to a high-impact defensive one.
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>Samuro can solo camps at level 1 (ONE)
>Has infinite escape utility
>can delete heroes in a second
>Has better mobility than Illidan at level 20
>has a 65% win rate
>Blizzard thinks this is acceptable
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I-I-I c-can't stop playing Nova
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>>158426060
Dude he literally HAD Invulnerable on his E for several patches. How new are you.
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>>158426069
Everything is balanced as long as it makes Blizzard money and draws in nostalgiaboos
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>>158426394
I know it HAD invulnerability, and I can see how it could be strong. It was probably justified removing it from a move made to freely dive someone's backline.
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>>158426701
Removing it single-handedly made him drop from solid pick tier to meh. Nobody plays him anymore except to counter Li Ming with full beetle build.
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>>158411768
Good. Good.
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>>158426831
He wasn't a solid pick when he had it. He was only ever good as a second tank, and he still is only good as a second tank.
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>>158427829
tell it to my 66% winrate as solo tank anub in Plat/Dia, son
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>>158427937
neither of those are real leagues
that's just down to you being less bad at your hero than the enemy team is bad at theirs rather than the hero actually being good
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>>158427937
>Get carried.
>Brag.
>>
>Enemy Butcher dies in every single engagement
>Is going like 3-10
>Instead of getting shut down for good he's still a monstrous late game threat that's suddenly taking out two people every time

Why is this allowed?
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>>158428405
Because he was fucking terrible.
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>>158426831
Don't you only use beetlebuild against melee heavy teams?
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>>158427575
im glad you approve guldanposter

hearthing is for the weak
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>>158429130
none of ming's skillshots pierce through units so the beetles cockblock all of her damage
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>>158430427
Still you go full beetlebuild if your beetles have an easy time connecting with someone. For magehunting the e build is better I'd think.
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Why is every diablo character boring and shitty?

Why do I keep getting the diablo quest?

Azmodan's the only bearable character, but there's only so many azmo matches I can play.
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>>158434086
because diablo is boring
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>>158434086
Khara? Butcher (kinda)? Xul (didn't play him)?
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>>158434086
should just play diablo itself if you want pve shit like azmo. the worst diablo character by far.
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Wew lad
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>>158440524
What the matter anon?
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I don't really understand how it can be considered a nerf that Samuro's clones have a 2 second longer cooldown when they have 100% uptime. Seems more like a buff to me. If they lasted 2 seconds longer he'd be throwing out 2 ultralisks 3 times more often than Kerrigan can. Even with bladestorm if they home into a squishy target that guy is dead unless they kill the clone.
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>>158443921
longer cooldown means if they get popped or if their ai does somethign retarted and leaves the teamfight to go push a lane you have 2 more seconds until you can get them back again
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>>158444251
Sure but if they don't you have them two seconds longer.

It literally isn't a nerf. Nothing they did was a nerf, because for every decrease, they made an increase. Aside from his HP, but 100 HP means fuck all.
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>>158444784
Well they decreased wind walk's speed without buffing it at all, but I agree the nerfs didn't make that big of an impact. It's like the first nerf to Zarya.
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>>158194591

So what do you know, HotS is actually growing nicely on Twitch. Is now easily the most watched moba after LoL and Dota, beating Smite every single day.

Apparently there was a huge grow of chinese players and media that helped this, and the american scene is constantly giving each others viewers every single day. Nice.

>spergs getting triggered

Get over yourself already brat, this is good for our ded game.
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>e """""sports"""""
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>>158446734
>Gul'dan is released.
>Hots starts to grow.

Coincidence. I think not.
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Been playing a lot of Overwatch these last few weeks, came back to HotS, which is what I spent all my time playing before OW.

Every game makes me feel like HotS is so much less fun and balanced than Overwatch. Yeah, different genres, but I can't stop feeling it. I also enjoy the smaller character pool, and I fucking hate the majority of new heroes they've added to HotS since release.
>>
Blizzcon leaks WHEN!?
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>>158447468
>Warcraft The movie is released
>Thousands of people get a free Gul'dan
>Gul'dan saved hots
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>>158448212

I can tell you who is NOT getting released:

Maiev
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>>158448315
>>158447468

Well, the movie was a flop, and thousands of Gul'Dan codes were stolen/given free by russian sites. Guess what, nobody gave a fuck.

Such a shitty hero, not even slighty OP on opening week. He is just there in the middle of draft like a dry dick on the desert. Shame.
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>>158448341
That was just plain mean of you.
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>>158448515
>Being this salty over the power of Gul'dan.

Go be angry in the corner with Varian and Vol'jin.
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>>158447468
>>158448315
If this is true what does this video foretell?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oghbgBoZek
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>>158448920
Merely a setback.
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>>158448920
Nice. No matter what game - he is nothing but a loser.
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>>158448341
The time for Maiev is now!
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>>158448515
>Well, the movie was a flop
Only critically. It was a commercial success
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>>158450057
>commercial success
On the pirate bay?
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>>158448920
Didn't he die already even before Warcraft III?
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>>158450089
silly anon, this is the gul'dan from another dimension :^)
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>>158450089
Yeah but they did a time travel expansion in wow to go back to before draenor was destroyed so they could bring him back as a bad guy in the new wow expansion. That is just an alternate time gul'dan
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>>158450089
This is an alternate universe version of Gul'dan. The one in Hots is the normal universe, the one in wow is alt Gul'dan.
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>>158450089
Now Illidan will get his skull and have TWO skulls of Gul'dan!

The skull turning you into a demon is the stupidest shit ever
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>>158450369
did you watch the video? he broke his skull
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>>158450369
>The skull turning you into a demon is the stupidest shit ever
That would be the least of your concerns if you knew anything about the lore.
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>>158450438
I'm just disappointed that the second skull of Gul'dan didn't graft onto Illidan's head. They could become a two headed odd couple like Cho'Gall

Why am I not writing for blizzard
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>>158450147
>>158450151
>>158450169
>>158450369
Blizzard has some of the stupidest writing I had ever witnessed. How is this even acceptable?
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>>158450079
Not him but the movie made mad bank in China.
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>>158450454
I do follow the lore, I even have the hardcover lore book sitting next to me.

I still stand by the two dumbest things in the lore being The Skull of Gul'dan and Tiffin dying to a fucking rock the size of a baseball
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>>158450549
it isn't, even the blindest wow fanboy (me) thought it was retarded
>>
>>158450616
>baseball
Looks even smaller to me, since my brain adjusts for the perspective.
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>>158448920
They're really milking that glowy explosive death.
>>
so you are saying i should buy samuro because hes fun and rewarding?
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>>158452392
>fun and rewarding
he's cheap and as a result fun
also very low risk high reward
basically, yes
>>
Vikings buffs WHEN?
More Blizzard Classic heroes WHEN?
Multi-unit Support hero WHEN?
Axolotl coming back from the dead WHEN?
>>
>>158445418
to be precise, his winrate went from 67.5% to 67.4%
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>>158453872
nope
you get 8 more assassins though
>>
>>158453872
>Axolotl
but anon, ponyfaggots killed him
there's no such thing as a resurrection in our wolrd
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DAILY REMINDER
that the only leagues that matter are Grand Master and Korean Grand Master
ALL OTHERS
are literal bronze and if you play there, shut the fuck up about "builds" and "strategies" because you are a shitter
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>>158452392
It doesn't seem like he's gonna be changed any time soon, so go get him.
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>>158450549
the actual quality of writing is irrelevant if you pander to sweaty perma-teens who like everything EPICK and METÄL. how do you think Blizzard got big?
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>quest play 8 games
>Yesterday Quest Play 8 games
>Day before that Play 8 games
Fuck off blizzard I see what you are trying to do
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>>158457583
by making their games good and addictive?
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>>158457596
Giving you free gold?
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>>158457673
That's how they get you Anon. Think about all the "Gold"
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>>158457669
>broken balance in every single game that isn't diablo
>rightclick simulator in every diablo game
>>
>even world's worst samuro is still strong enough to make it a 7v5 in every situation
>he's not getting nerfed any time soon
>>
>>158457596
I've got a streak of "play 8 games" and "win 3 games" too

not that i'm complaining mostly because I hardly play more than 3 games at day, if any
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>do literally nothing all match except walking around and jumping on shitters
>lowest xp in almost everything
>get mvp anyway
t-thanks blizz
>>
When will samuro be 10k? i want to buy him
>>
>>158461023
Next week
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>>158194591

>>https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/our-final-message-to-our-evolve-community/106117/159

Now THIS is a DED GAME. As bad as sometimes the queue is, I'm fairly sure this will never happen to us.

Who will fall next?
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>>158464628
Wew. Finally down the drain.
>>
Any reason not to pick Stitches in silver-gold HL?
I can make game changing pulls turning around games. I'm wondering why he isn't picked that often...
>>
>>158466453
no damage

fun though
>>
>>158466453
>pull their vital squishy
>give them a cheeky slap on the bum and send them on their way
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>>158467096
level 7 you get a 25% slow on basic attacks
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O1PAXHnMHA

Press F to pay Respect...again
>>
>>158467628
F

cant wait for alternate reality's alternate gul'dan to show up, how deep does the rabbit hole go
>>
>>158468158
It's just a matter of time until they run out villains again so they'll have to bring him back.
The real question is: Alternate Reality Arthas when?
>>
What is up with the match maker in this game?

On my main account (3k+ games) I got placed into Gold 3.

However, on my smurf (~200 or so games) I get placed into Plat 1??

Can someone explain this shit? Do seasons not reset the MMR?
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cock
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>>158469457
I go 4-6 I get Slver 3
My friend goes 5-5 and get Gold 2
>>
>>158472857
MMR affects your placement, not your win/losses.

With 3k mrr you can go 0-10 and still place diamond 3.
>>
>spend tens of thousands of dollars on production value
>stream isn't even 1080p

Never change, Blizzard
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>>158472524
BIG
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>>158467628
rest in pepperoni

wasn't that like, Illidan's third skull of Guldan?
>>
Cho'gall is actually a surprisingly good Samuro Counter with Eye of Kilrogg, you plop it down and can see which one is the real one and focus on him, and gall being able to focus on watching for the stealth shimmer when Samuro hits E is a nice bonus.
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>>158477964
Doesn't Eye of Kilrogg give vision, but not true sight?
>>
>>158477964
tyrande owl does the same thing but you don't need to play a shit hero.
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>>158478702
It doesn't reveal the stealth on his e, but does show if its a clone Samuro or not
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>>158478926
Cho'gall is only as shit as the players playing them, I have a 60% winrate with Cho, and have a blast playing him every time. Try playin him with a good friend and have the most fun you'll ever have in this game
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>>158479282
>Try playin him with a good friend
I have no friends
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>>158476189
Where did he get the second one from?
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>>158479346
Then find some.
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>>158480206
that's literally impossible
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>>158460964
mvp is just based on kda mostly

having top damage or top exp is worth as much as +1 kill
>>
>>158469457
>Do seasons not reset the MMR?
you are correct, they do not
>>
Everyone else should just have fun ;)
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>>158479282
i have one friend in hots and he's even more of a shitter than me

if he plays cho he will just ignore regen globes or healing fountains and charge into 1v5s at 20% hp

if he plays gall he will literally never detonate the rune bomb or activate his mount ability and he'll probably screw up his ult
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>>158467628
F

Life, Death, a cycle unbroken.
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>>158467628
A shame he does't die like a bitch like our Guldan.
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SHOULD I????
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>>158482620
Only if youre ready for adventure
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>>158483027
I am ready
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>>158194591

Fucking Rich got Illidong on draft. Jesus Christ, prepare your boypussies:

>>twitch tv/blizzheroes
>>
CREATED BY BABBLING BOOK
>>
>>158483458
You wanna cast a spell?
I wanna cast a spell!
>>
Are there any characters that you will go out of your way to kill if you're facing them? I love killing Raynors.
>>
>>158483269

7 minutes game, of course.
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>>158483269
>huehues vs koreans
>they let him pick illidan
>game last 7m

HAHAHA
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>>158483269
Nuts. Why can't QM Ilidans know when to NOT DIVE LIKE AN IDIOT
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>>158484029
that made me sad :(
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What are the chances we would see her in the championship?
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>>158484826

New thread.
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>>158482620
>>158483027
>>158483207
Where will the adventures take you?
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>>158479282
And then the other team picks one of the 20 counters to Cho'Gall and you get stomped. The only time Cho'Gall is good is quick match because you can't draft to counter him.
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>>158486045
That's why you only draft them last or you play quick match, yes.
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